1 00:00:05,483 --> 00:00:08,095 Previously on So Help Me Todd...Maybe Aunt Patty 2 00:00:08,138 --> 00:00:10,619 could come down.I don't want Aunt Patty to come down. 3 00:00:10,662 --> 00:00:11,924 When's the last time you were in a cemetery? 4 00:00:11,968 --> 00:00:14,840 Dad.Yeah, me, too. 5 00:00:14,884 --> 00:00:16,581 I'm not a client.TODD: You're Susan's fiancé. 6 00:00:16,625 --> 00:00:17,843 [sighs] 7 00:00:17,887 --> 00:00:19,802 TODD: You kissed me, in my office, 8 00:00:19,845 --> 00:00:21,630 and now you're just like, "No, it never happened"? 9 00:00:24,546 --> 00:00:26,504 Oh, it's really starting to hit me. 10 00:00:26,548 --> 00:00:28,767 [chuckles] Susan, you'll be fine. 11 00:00:28,811 --> 00:00:31,161 I was also petrified on my first day 12 00:00:31,205 --> 00:00:33,207 of my first trial as lead attorney, 13 00:00:33,250 --> 00:00:37,515 and the surprise witness was my high school boyfriend Chip. 14 00:00:37,559 --> 00:00:39,691 But I still won, and you will, too. 15 00:00:39,735 --> 00:00:41,258 I feel like I can't breathe. 16 00:00:41,302 --> 00:00:43,173 It's a simple civil trial. 17 00:00:43,217 --> 00:00:44,827 You can do this. 18 00:00:44,870 --> 00:00:46,524 I'm gonna run upstairs for a quick hearing, 19 00:00:46,568 --> 00:00:48,526 and I'll be right back down to see you in action. 20 00:00:48,570 --> 00:00:49,962 Okay? Yes. Okay. 21 00:00:50,006 --> 00:00:51,181 You're going to kill it. 22 00:00:52,443 --> 00:00:53,662 [exhales] 23 00:00:56,186 --> 00:00:58,710 And we will prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, 24 00:00:58,754 --> 00:01:02,888 that the Total Eclipse Shampoo company, um, 25 00:01:02,932 --> 00:01:05,543 caused my-- caused my client, Ms. Hayes, 26 00:01:05,587 --> 00:01:07,632 to suffer from first-degree... 27 00:01:07,676 --> 00:01:09,982 to-to suffer from loss of hair, 28 00:01:10,026 --> 00:01:12,115 loss of motor function, 29 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:15,379 and-and second-degree burns to her head. 30 00:01:18,730 --> 00:01:21,559 Through our independent testing, we will show 31 00:01:21,603 --> 00:01:24,127 that this batch of shampoo was tainted 32 00:01:24,170 --> 00:01:25,781 with dangerous chemicals, 33 00:01:25,824 --> 00:01:28,175 and that the Total Eclipse Shampoo parent company was... 34 00:01:28,218 --> 00:01:29,828 [woman coughing] 35 00:01:29,872 --> 00:01:31,569 Ma'am, are you okay? 36 00:01:31,613 --> 00:01:34,354 [others shouting, screaming] 37 00:01:34,398 --> 00:01:36,313 MAN: Someone get a doctor!WOMAN: Is she okay? 38 00:01:36,357 --> 00:01:39,142 MAN: Somebody call 911!WOMAN: Is she breathing? 39 00:01:39,186 --> 00:01:41,666 What's going on? What... 40 00:01:41,710 --> 00:01:44,408 What is going-- Oh, my God. 41 00:01:44,452 --> 00:01:46,541 Oh, my God, what happened? What happ... 42 00:01:46,584 --> 00:01:49,065 Susan? 43 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:52,155 Well, I killed it. 44 00:01:52,199 --> 00:01:53,461 You put it in the microwave for 30 seconds, 45 00:01:53,503 --> 00:01:55,550 it tastes a billion times better. 46 00:01:55,593 --> 00:01:57,551 Whoa, holy... 47 00:01:57,595 --> 00:02:00,381 A juror on Susan's trial died? 48 00:02:00,424 --> 00:02:02,383 Uh-huh. Well, wait, What do you mean "unnatural"? 49 00:02:02,426 --> 00:02:04,385 It wasn't a stroke? 50 00:02:04,428 --> 00:02:05,864 She was poisoned? 51 00:02:05,908 --> 00:02:07,997 NEWS ANCHOR: Yesterday, a juror died. 52 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:10,695 And today, another juror was taken into custody 53 00:02:10,739 --> 00:02:12,219 for suspected murder. 54 00:02:12,262 --> 00:02:14,569 What's happening?They arrested juror number three. 55 00:02:14,612 --> 00:02:16,179 FRANCEY:Oh, my God in heaven. That's Amy Morelin. 56 00:02:16,223 --> 00:02:17,353 TODD: Who's Amy Morelin? 57 00:02:17,398 --> 00:02:19,313 Rose Festival Queen. 2008? 58 00:02:19,356 --> 00:02:21,053 That's Queen Amy?Yep. 59 00:02:21,097 --> 00:02:23,360 TODD: Oh, my God. 60 00:02:23,404 --> 00:02:25,841 She looks exactly the same, but older. 61 00:02:25,884 --> 00:02:27,712 And in custody.She looks good. 62 00:02:29,932 --> 00:02:32,978 And what did the police say? 63 00:02:33,022 --> 00:02:35,459 The water bottle under Irene's chair 64 00:02:35,503 --> 00:02:38,288 was tainted with a poison made from plant fertilizer. 65 00:02:38,332 --> 00:02:41,117 And there were only two sets of fingerprints on the bottle. 66 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:43,772 The dead juror Irene's... 67 00:02:43,815 --> 00:02:44,990 And Amy's. 68 00:02:45,034 --> 00:02:46,427 Yeah. 69 00:02:46,470 --> 00:02:48,951 [sighs]: Oh, God. 70 00:02:48,994 --> 00:02:51,562 Amy works as a florist. At a gardening shop. 71 00:02:51,606 --> 00:02:53,738 Access. What about motive? 72 00:02:53,781 --> 00:02:55,784 Well, there was the tape. 73 00:02:55,827 --> 00:02:58,003 LYLE:Day before the murder, courthouse parking lot. 74 00:02:58,047 --> 00:03:00,223 MARGARET: Mm-hmm.That's Amy, that's Irene. 75 00:03:00,267 --> 00:03:01,833 Mm-hmm.No sound, unfortunately. 76 00:03:01,877 --> 00:03:03,052 But from the looks of it, 77 00:03:03,095 --> 00:03:05,402 they did not like each other, at all. 78 00:03:05,446 --> 00:03:08,710 But Amy seemed so nice, and smart. 79 00:03:08,753 --> 00:03:10,973 I thought that she would be my alpha juror. 80 00:03:11,016 --> 00:03:12,583 And she's moving to New York next month 81 00:03:12,627 --> 00:03:15,151 to start law school at Cornell, just like I did. 82 00:03:15,195 --> 00:03:17,849 It's just hard to believe that she would jeopardize all of that 83 00:03:17,893 --> 00:03:19,068 by poisoning someone. 84 00:03:19,111 --> 00:03:20,374 But she wouldn't. 85 00:03:20,417 --> 00:03:22,071 She had her whole life ahead of her. 86 00:03:22,114 --> 00:03:23,899 She was Rose Festival Queen. 87 00:03:23,942 --> 00:03:25,683 Who may have thorns we don't know about. 88 00:03:25,727 --> 00:03:28,947 I'm going to get all the files from the trial. 89 00:03:28,991 --> 00:03:30,601 MARGARET: Close the door behind you.Yeah. 90 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:36,868 [crying]: Margaret, my first trial. 91 00:03:36,912 --> 00:03:40,089 And that poor woman was murdered, 92 00:03:40,132 --> 00:03:43,005 and another one is just gonna go to jail for what, forever? 93 00:03:43,048 --> 00:03:44,876 I just can't stand it. 94 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,052 Susan, I know. It's awful. 95 00:03:47,096 --> 00:03:49,620 But there is nothing that you can do about it now. 96 00:03:49,664 --> 00:03:50,839 You're a witness 97 00:03:50,882 --> 00:03:52,057 to the murder. 98 00:03:52,101 --> 00:03:53,406 But you could represent her. 99 00:03:53,450 --> 00:03:55,583 I mean, you always told me to trust my gut. 100 00:03:55,626 --> 00:03:56,888 And Margaret, in my gut, 101 00:03:56,932 --> 00:04:00,152 I know that Amy did not murder that woman. 102 00:04:00,196 --> 00:04:02,633 Help her. Please, Margaret. 103 00:04:02,677 --> 00:04:03,852 Help me. 104 00:04:06,376 --> 00:04:08,378 [beeping] 105 00:04:10,337 --> 00:04:13,775 So, the fight, in the parking lot. 106 00:04:13,818 --> 00:04:15,646 I think I maybe stole 107 00:04:15,690 --> 00:04:17,692 a parking space from her, accidentally? 108 00:04:17,735 --> 00:04:20,390 I-I really don't know. 109 00:04:20,434 --> 00:04:21,870 I, uh, I didn't see her. 110 00:04:21,913 --> 00:04:23,175 And then, when I got out of my car, 111 00:04:23,219 --> 00:04:24,351 she just started screaming at me. 112 00:04:24,394 --> 00:04:25,917 And you gave it right back. 113 00:04:25,961 --> 00:04:28,572 Well, she was yelling and I didn't even know who she was. 114 00:04:28,616 --> 00:04:30,139 I was so surprised to realize 115 00:04:30,182 --> 00:04:32,924 that she was the person on the jury with me. 116 00:04:32,968 --> 00:04:35,840 But I never would've killed her. 117 00:04:35,884 --> 00:04:39,453 And you never met her or spoke to her or knew her 118 00:04:39,496 --> 00:04:41,324 anywhere ever, before that? 119 00:04:41,368 --> 00:04:45,067 No. She was just some random lady. 120 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:47,156 Who died. [moans] 121 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:50,332 [exhales] This is just so messed up and awful. 122 00:04:50,377 --> 00:04:52,553 Uh, you're a local celebrity, 123 00:04:52,596 --> 00:04:55,251 and that-that might put the jury on your side, 124 00:04:55,295 --> 00:04:57,862 or it may turn public opinion against you. 125 00:04:57,906 --> 00:04:59,342 I mean, people love nothing more 126 00:04:59,386 --> 00:05:03,999 than a salacious story about a fallen local celebrity. 127 00:05:04,042 --> 00:05:05,435 I was 18. 128 00:05:05,479 --> 00:05:07,655 I was Rose Festival Queen for one year, 129 00:05:07,698 --> 00:05:11,223 and there have been 15 Rose Queens after me. 130 00:05:11,267 --> 00:05:14,052 I'm not a local celebrity. I'm local history. 131 00:05:14,096 --> 00:05:16,968 [laughs softly] 132 00:05:17,012 --> 00:05:19,362 The evidence against you is circumstantial. 133 00:05:19,406 --> 00:05:22,539 I believe that the police made you the prime suspect 134 00:05:22,582 --> 00:05:24,541 because it was the simplest solution. 135 00:05:24,585 --> 00:05:26,717 So a large component of your defense 136 00:05:26,761 --> 00:05:29,198 is going to be pinpointing an alternate suspect. 137 00:05:29,241 --> 00:05:32,288 You mean figuring out who really killed juror number nine. 138 00:05:32,332 --> 00:05:33,463 Exactly. 139 00:05:36,031 --> 00:05:38,816 Oh, my God. Wow. Queen Amy. 140 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:40,470 You're out. 141 00:05:40,514 --> 00:05:42,037 And about. You're here. 142 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,257 Yeah, I'm allowed to leave my house arrest cell 143 00:05:45,301 --> 00:05:46,650 to see my lawyer, 144 00:05:46,694 --> 00:05:48,739 Huh.thanks to this stylish ankle monitor 145 00:05:48,783 --> 00:05:50,524 and the armed driver waiting for me downstairs. 146 00:05:50,567 --> 00:05:52,656 Well, I'm Todd. I'm the investigator on your case. 147 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:54,615 I was actually a junior in high school 148 00:05:54,658 --> 00:05:56,530 when you won Rose Festival Queen. 149 00:05:56,573 --> 00:05:57,748 Were you at Jefferson with me? 150 00:05:57,792 --> 00:05:59,315 Uh, no, no, I was at Wilson. 151 00:05:59,359 --> 00:06:01,056 I mean, now it's Ida B. Wells, 152 00:06:01,099 --> 00:06:05,887 but yeah, I just remember seeing it-- you, on TV. 153 00:06:05,930 --> 00:06:07,584 [chuckles] Wilson. 154 00:06:07,628 --> 00:06:10,065 Oh, your Princess was Kelly. 155 00:06:10,108 --> 00:06:11,762 She was so sweet. 156 00:06:11,806 --> 00:06:13,285 So, if you're the investigator, 157 00:06:13,329 --> 00:06:16,027 um, does that mean that there's any new information 158 00:06:16,071 --> 00:06:17,638 to know about? 159 00:06:17,681 --> 00:06:18,769 Any clues, suspects? 160 00:06:18,813 --> 00:06:20,945 Uh, no, not yet, but soon. 161 00:06:20,989 --> 00:06:23,426 We're-we're just starting to look into it now. 162 00:06:23,470 --> 00:06:25,559 Uh, maybe this is weird, 163 00:06:25,602 --> 00:06:27,256 but could I give you my number? 164 00:06:27,299 --> 00:06:28,692 And then maybe you could call me 165 00:06:28,736 --> 00:06:31,129 and you could update me on any new developments? 166 00:06:31,173 --> 00:06:33,957 Otherwise I'm just gonna be in my apartment obsessing. 167 00:06:34,002 --> 00:06:37,222 Sure. Um, yeah, let me just, uh-- Here. 168 00:06:37,266 --> 00:06:39,399 Just put your number in my phone. 169 00:06:40,878 --> 00:06:43,272 Unless your girlfriend is gonna be upset to find 170 00:06:43,315 --> 00:06:44,578 some strange lady's phone number in here. 171 00:06:44,621 --> 00:06:46,580 [chuckles] Nope. Uh... 172 00:06:46,623 --> 00:06:47,798 No girlfriend. 173 00:06:47,842 --> 00:06:49,191 And no other Queens in my phone, either. 174 00:06:49,234 --> 00:06:50,801 Except for Queen Elizabeth. 175 00:06:50,845 --> 00:06:52,020 But you know. RIP. 176 00:06:52,063 --> 00:06:54,849 And Freddie Mercury, of Queen, 177 00:06:54,892 --> 00:06:56,807 who was always changing his number. And also... 178 00:06:56,851 --> 00:06:58,853 BOTH: RIP. [laughter] 179 00:06:58,896 --> 00:07:00,855 My elevator's here. I got to go.Oh, yeah, yes, yes, go. 180 00:07:04,554 --> 00:07:06,295 [timer dings] 181 00:07:06,338 --> 00:07:07,514 Patty, 182 00:07:07,557 --> 00:07:10,691 how long are you planning to stay? 183 00:07:10,734 --> 00:07:12,649 [chuckles] Well, with a view like that, 184 00:07:12,693 --> 00:07:14,521 why would I ever leave? 185 00:07:14,564 --> 00:07:15,957 It's breathtaking. 186 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,480 I can't imagine why Harry 187 00:07:17,524 --> 00:07:19,613 wouldn't have wanted to live here. 188 00:07:19,656 --> 00:07:21,223 Okay, let's not talk about things like that. 189 00:07:21,266 --> 00:07:23,225 Okay? Not now. Private things, 190 00:07:23,268 --> 00:07:24,879 on this visit, 191 00:07:24,922 --> 00:07:26,707 for once. All right.Oh. 192 00:07:26,750 --> 00:07:28,404 You're making a pie? Oh! 193 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:29,579 You're holding up your little pinkies 194 00:07:29,623 --> 00:07:31,494 like Mom did when she baked. 195 00:07:31,538 --> 00:07:33,496 No, I'm not. 196 00:07:33,540 --> 00:07:35,237 You're not putting the cinnamon in before the butter, right? 197 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,717 Yes, Patty, I'm making the family recipe. 198 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,153 No, that's not the way to do it, though. 199 00:07:38,196 --> 00:07:39,807 I actually wrote down the family recipe. 200 00:07:39,850 --> 00:07:41,591 Oh, you wrote down the family recipe in my handwriting? 201 00:07:41,635 --> 00:07:42,505 That's not your handwriting.It is my handwriting. 202 00:07:42,549 --> 00:07:43,985 That's me. I did... 203 00:07:44,028 --> 00:07:45,159 Don't put it in. You don't put it in.I put it in. 204 00:07:45,203 --> 00:07:46,988 You have to...There, it went in. 205 00:07:47,031 --> 00:07:49,643 That's the family recipe, okay? That's what I did.No... 206 00:07:49,686 --> 00:07:51,645 [doorbell rings]Ooh, the kids are here. 207 00:07:51,688 --> 00:07:53,560 PATTY: See?MARGARET: Patty, it's fine. It's fine. 208 00:07:53,603 --> 00:07:55,779 Oh, Todd, I looked up that poison you mentioned. 209 00:07:55,823 --> 00:07:57,694 What poison?I don't know what other conversations 210 00:07:57,738 --> 00:07:59,740 you're having with other sisters about poisons, 211 00:07:59,783 --> 00:08:01,219 Right.but the one that you mentioned to me 212 00:08:01,263 --> 00:08:03,831 is actually parloxid blutominide. 213 00:08:03,874 --> 00:08:06,747 And yes, the Rose Queen could have made it herself 214 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:09,010 using... common fertilizers 215 00:08:09,053 --> 00:08:11,839 and simple instructions from the Internet. 216 00:08:11,882 --> 00:08:14,363 We do through this whole poison treatment module in the ER, 217 00:08:14,406 --> 00:08:16,496 and that one is particularly volatile 218 00:08:16,539 --> 00:08:18,454 and fugacious.Which means? 219 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:20,369 Short-lived.Which means? 220 00:08:20,412 --> 00:08:21,544 If the delivery system is water, 221 00:08:21,588 --> 00:08:23,111 it's only potent for about 60 minutes. 222 00:08:23,154 --> 00:08:25,461 Which means...What are we talking about? 223 00:08:26,723 --> 00:08:28,464 ALLISON: Uh, the murder. 224 00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:29,291 The Rose Festival Queen thing. 225 00:08:29,334 --> 00:08:30,814 Ooh. Yeah. 226 00:08:30,858 --> 00:08:32,120 Okay. Well... 227 00:08:32,163 --> 00:08:33,948 Let's see, okay. 228 00:08:33,991 --> 00:08:36,820 So, the Rose Festival is basically Portland's version 229 00:08:36,864 --> 00:08:39,126 of the Miss America pageant, so every high school 230 00:08:39,169 --> 00:08:41,869 selects a senior for their Rose Princess, 231 00:08:41,912 --> 00:08:44,174 then, at the festival, a Queen is elected. 232 00:08:44,219 --> 00:08:46,569 She gets a scholarship, she gets a whole new wardrobe... 233 00:08:46,613 --> 00:08:47,788 Uh, Patty, 234 00:08:47,831 --> 00:08:49,398 I-I know. I'm from here. 235 00:08:49,441 --> 00:08:50,834 Mm-hmm. You know, your mother would have killed 236 00:08:50,878 --> 00:08:52,009 for you to have been a Rose Princess. 237 00:08:52,053 --> 00:08:54,403 Never.Or to have been one herself. 238 00:08:54,446 --> 00:08:56,361 But I guess this Rose Queen really did kill somebody. 239 00:08:56,405 --> 00:08:59,495 Boy, she snapped and beheaded a judge, was it? 240 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:00,801 No one was beheaded, Patty. 241 00:09:00,844 --> 00:09:01,845 Oh, yeah, well, I think 242 00:09:01,889 --> 00:09:03,499 that's for the jury to decide. 243 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:04,674 What are these?CHUCK: These are the placemats. 244 00:09:04,718 --> 00:09:06,284 Those are-- No, those aren't. 245 00:09:06,328 --> 00:09:08,069 What do you mean?Those are not the ones that we use. 246 00:09:08,112 --> 00:09:09,113 These are the ones we always use. 247 00:09:09,157 --> 00:09:11,638 No, we never use those.Um... 248 00:09:11,681 --> 00:09:13,770 So, uh, what brings you to town, Aunt Patty? 249 00:09:13,814 --> 00:09:16,381 Oh, well, there's a ceremony for me.Oh. 250 00:09:16,425 --> 00:09:18,514 A little cocktail party. I want you all to come. 251 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:19,863 I donated some money 252 00:09:19,907 --> 00:09:22,431 to a refugee organization of sorts, and now 253 00:09:22,474 --> 00:09:25,173 they're dedicating a wing of their building in my honor. 254 00:09:25,216 --> 00:09:27,567 And I just like to come in on, you know, during springtime, 255 00:09:27,610 --> 00:09:29,003 when it's all colorful 256 00:09:29,046 --> 00:09:30,961 and there are flowers and it's so pretty, you know. 257 00:09:31,005 --> 00:09:33,224 By this time next year I'll be blind, so... 258 00:09:33,268 --> 00:09:34,704 I'm trying to soak it all in while I can. 259 00:09:34,748 --> 00:09:37,620 What could have compelled that sweet, poor little girl 260 00:09:37,664 --> 00:09:39,230 to execute somebody? 261 00:09:39,274 --> 00:09:40,928 Well, I don't think she executed anyone. 262 00:09:40,971 --> 00:09:43,539 I don't think she did it. She's very nice. 263 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:45,193 Well, maybe she's a sociopath. 264 00:09:45,236 --> 00:09:46,716 Could've been a thrill kill.Patty. 265 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,588 Patty? Patty, Patty, Patty.Oh. 266 00:09:48,631 --> 00:09:51,591 She is my client, and she did not murder anyone. 267 00:09:51,634 --> 00:09:53,897 Oh, well, I guess we'll never know. 268 00:09:53,941 --> 00:09:55,507 Amy's a victim, Patty, 269 00:09:55,551 --> 00:09:57,466 and Irene was poisoned by someone else. 270 00:09:57,509 --> 00:09:59,207 Or maybe she just up and died. 271 00:09:59,250 --> 00:10:01,513 You know, sometimes a death like that can be very convenient. 272 00:10:01,557 --> 00:10:03,515 [chuckles] Just ask your mother. 273 00:10:05,343 --> 00:10:07,302 [mouths] 274 00:10:08,782 --> 00:10:10,610 PATTY: Night, Magpie. 275 00:10:15,527 --> 00:10:18,705 [inhales, grunts] 276 00:10:46,515 --> 00:10:48,691 All right, Lyle, what do you have? 277 00:10:48,735 --> 00:10:50,388 Security camera footage, 278 00:10:50,432 --> 00:10:52,521 inside the courthouse showing the bailiff delivering 279 00:10:52,564 --> 00:10:54,871 a sealed and wrapped case of water 280 00:10:54,915 --> 00:10:57,569 to the jury room at 6:02 a.m. 281 00:10:57,613 --> 00:10:58,788 One of those bottles was found 282 00:10:58,832 --> 00:11:00,529 under Irene's chair containing the poison. 283 00:11:00,572 --> 00:11:02,313 And you, Todd? What do you have? 284 00:11:02,357 --> 00:11:04,315 A theory.Mm-hmm? 285 00:11:04,359 --> 00:11:06,013 Those water bottles sat in that room, alone, 286 00:11:06,056 --> 00:11:09,190 for three hours until the jury started coming in around 9:00. 287 00:11:09,233 --> 00:11:11,192 And Irene died at 9:27. 288 00:11:11,235 --> 00:11:15,022 So, if the poison is only active for one hour, 289 00:11:15,065 --> 00:11:16,501 then all these court employees, 290 00:11:16,545 --> 00:11:18,155 the stenographer, the shampoo lawyers-- 291 00:11:18,199 --> 00:11:19,504 who might have loved a mistrial-- 292 00:11:19,548 --> 00:11:21,202 are all off the hook. 293 00:11:21,245 --> 00:11:22,725 Because none of them went into the jury room, 294 00:11:22,769 --> 00:11:24,509 none of them had access to the bottles of water. 295 00:11:24,553 --> 00:11:25,902 Only one of the jurors 296 00:11:25,946 --> 00:11:27,599 could have gotten that poison into that bottle 297 00:11:27,643 --> 00:11:30,167 and into Irene's hands in that slim half-hour window. 298 00:11:30,211 --> 00:11:32,866 You know what's bothering me?Hmm? 299 00:11:32,909 --> 00:11:34,824 There are roughly 803,000 people in Multnomah County. 300 00:11:34,868 --> 00:11:37,044 796 were called for jury duty that day, 301 00:11:37,087 --> 00:11:38,959 100 were sent to that courtroom, 302 00:11:39,002 --> 00:11:40,743 only 12 made it into the jury box. 303 00:11:40,787 --> 00:11:42,527 But all these selections are completely random 304 00:11:42,571 --> 00:11:44,138 and made by a computer. 305 00:11:44,181 --> 00:11:46,488 That's like the lottery, which means...That the jury 306 00:11:46,531 --> 00:11:49,709 is most likely comprised of 12 complete strangers. 307 00:11:49,752 --> 00:11:52,189 Or maybe one of them shows up, 308 00:11:52,233 --> 00:11:54,975 and-- surprise-- recognizes juror number nine, 309 00:11:55,018 --> 00:11:58,369 has some deep, dark, horrible, secret connection to her 310 00:11:58,413 --> 00:12:00,502 and decides to send her kersplitzo. 311 00:12:00,545 --> 00:12:01,416 Kersplitzo? 312 00:12:01,459 --> 00:12:02,591 We need to talk to these jurors. 313 00:12:02,634 --> 00:12:03,592 All 12 of them. 314 00:12:03,635 --> 00:12:04,854 I mean, nine. One is dead. 315 00:12:04,898 --> 00:12:06,726 I mean, nine is dead. The number nine. 316 00:12:06,769 --> 00:12:08,249 And three is accused of killing nine. 317 00:12:08,292 --> 00:12:09,554 Maybe seven ate nine. 318 00:12:09,598 --> 00:12:11,121 What I mean is, what we really need to do-- 319 00:12:11,165 --> 00:12:12,557 even though we don't have enough time-- 320 00:12:12,601 --> 00:12:15,343 is get the remaining ten in here and interview them. 321 00:12:15,386 --> 00:12:16,692 Find out who they are, 322 00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:18,041 what they do, what they think. 323 00:12:18,085 --> 00:12:19,869 Wait. 324 00:12:19,913 --> 00:12:22,045 We've already done that. 325 00:12:22,089 --> 00:12:24,265 The voir dire transcript. 326 00:12:24,308 --> 00:12:25,483 They were all interviewed thoroughly 327 00:12:25,527 --> 00:12:27,137 during jury selection. 328 00:12:27,181 --> 00:12:28,182 If there's a random connection 329 00:12:28,225 --> 00:12:30,488 between any of them, 330 00:12:30,532 --> 00:12:31,620 we'll find it here. 331 00:12:32,795 --> 00:12:34,405 Okay. Okay, okay. 332 00:12:34,449 --> 00:12:35,885 We're gonna need a bigger room. 333 00:12:35,929 --> 00:12:37,495 Okay. 334 00:12:41,064 --> 00:12:42,805 Good?Found some photos of all the jurors, 335 00:12:42,849 --> 00:12:45,415 some of which I had to pull from social media. 336 00:12:45,460 --> 00:12:46,635 All right, let's arrange them in their order. 337 00:12:46,678 --> 00:12:48,115 One through six on top... 338 00:12:48,158 --> 00:12:49,986 [overlapping chatter] 339 00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:51,161 This is the best picture you could find... 340 00:12:51,205 --> 00:12:53,337 It's not a beauty contest, Francey. 341 00:12:53,381 --> 00:12:54,730 We're gonna solve a crime here.FRANCEY: Can't even tell who that is. 342 00:12:54,774 --> 00:12:55,992 Careful with those.Why? 343 00:12:56,036 --> 00:12:56,819 Don't bend the corners. 344 00:12:56,863 --> 00:12:58,212 TODD: I need eight... 345 00:12:58,255 --> 00:12:59,909 This is five. Here.This is five. 346 00:12:59,953 --> 00:13:01,519 Got it, got it, got it. 347 00:13:01,563 --> 00:13:02,912 Okay.All right. 348 00:13:02,956 --> 00:13:06,263 So, one of these jurors is the real killer. 349 00:13:06,307 --> 00:13:08,483 My money's on the bee. 350 00:13:08,526 --> 00:13:10,441 ♪ 351 00:13:17,144 --> 00:13:20,147 Okay, first things first. Irene is dead, 352 00:13:20,190 --> 00:13:22,366 and Amy is our client. 353 00:13:22,410 --> 00:13:24,978 And these four: Sven, Danielle, 354 00:13:25,021 --> 00:13:29,765 Kathy and Sal, never made it into the jury room that morning. 355 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,027 Sven and Kathy were late, 356 00:13:31,071 --> 00:13:32,681 Danielle and Sal were talking to the judge, 357 00:13:32,724 --> 00:13:34,857 and none of them got water bottles.Okay. 358 00:13:34,901 --> 00:13:37,251 TODD: And then there were six. 359 00:13:37,294 --> 00:13:40,341 Okay. Somewhere in here 360 00:13:40,384 --> 00:13:43,431 is a connection between one of them and our victim Irene. 361 00:13:43,474 --> 00:13:45,389 So let's get down to it. 362 00:13:45,433 --> 00:13:47,348 [papers thud] 363 00:13:47,391 --> 00:13:48,958 FRANCEY: Irene was 71 years old, 364 00:13:49,002 --> 00:13:51,526 a former financial adviser at Lehman Brothers. 365 00:13:51,569 --> 00:13:54,268 And she moved from Pasadena to Portland 366 00:13:54,311 --> 00:13:56,096 three years ago to retire. 367 00:13:57,749 --> 00:13:59,490 TODD: Okay, Sydney works for... 368 00:13:59,534 --> 00:14:00,752 Really? Murder Inc.? 369 00:14:00,796 --> 00:14:02,972 A role-playing board game company? 370 00:14:03,016 --> 00:14:04,365 And she "loves it." 371 00:14:04,408 --> 00:14:06,715 MARGARET: Zena does not use shampoo. 372 00:14:06,758 --> 00:14:09,587 And she tried like hell to get out of jury duty. 373 00:14:09,631 --> 00:14:12,721 Not Lou. "Thrilled to be here" and "Happy to serve." 374 00:14:12,764 --> 00:14:14,114 FRANCEY [mutters]: One, two, three... 375 00:14:14,157 --> 00:14:15,463 MARGARET: Rachel lives in Dunthorpe, 376 00:14:15,506 --> 00:14:18,031 "distrusts financial institutions" 377 00:14:18,074 --> 00:14:20,381 as a result of some "bad investments." 378 00:14:20,424 --> 00:14:22,774 Possibly by Lehman Brothers. Possible connection. 379 00:14:22,818 --> 00:14:25,168 FRANCEY: Okay, and the bumblebee, he does use shampoo. 380 00:14:25,212 --> 00:14:27,823 but he wanted to make sure he was "done with jury duty 381 00:14:27,867 --> 00:14:30,173 in time to make the big Ducks game." 382 00:14:30,217 --> 00:14:32,567 He went to U of O, just like Irene. 383 00:14:32,610 --> 00:14:34,134 Another connection. 384 00:14:34,177 --> 00:14:36,963 [indistinct chatter] 385 00:14:37,006 --> 00:14:39,835 LYLE: Hold on. This Cole looks too young to be on jury duty. 386 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:41,924 Aha, that's exactly what he wants you to think. 387 00:14:41,968 --> 00:14:43,404 Did you see the part where he says he reads 388 00:14:43,447 --> 00:14:46,233 The Wall Street Journal every day? Baloney. 389 00:14:46,276 --> 00:14:47,974 No one does that.Irene did. 390 00:14:48,017 --> 00:14:50,193 Put it on the board. 391 00:14:50,237 --> 00:14:52,326 MARGARET: All right. 392 00:14:52,369 --> 00:14:56,765 It is time to bring these six in 393 00:14:56,808 --> 00:14:59,028 and ask them some questions. 394 00:15:01,509 --> 00:15:02,814 TODD: Since Irene was poisoned, 395 00:15:02,858 --> 00:15:04,033 do we really think it's the best idea 396 00:15:04,077 --> 00:15:05,600 to be serving them powdered donuts? 397 00:15:05,643 --> 00:15:07,602 I mean, hasn't anyone read Flowers in the Attic? 398 00:15:07,645 --> 00:15:08,995 FRANCEY: Where are the other two? 399 00:15:09,038 --> 00:15:10,257 MARGARET: I could only track down these four. 400 00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:11,649 Okay, we are gonna bring them in, 401 00:15:11,693 --> 00:15:12,955 one by one, for questioning. 402 00:15:12,999 --> 00:15:14,217 Then I want you to hold them here 403 00:15:14,261 --> 00:15:16,393 so that I can bring them back in for follow-up-- 404 00:15:16,437 --> 00:15:18,700 Oh, my God, give me a second. 405 00:15:18,743 --> 00:15:20,963 [chuckles]: Uh, Patty. My sister Patty. 406 00:15:21,007 --> 00:15:23,139 Patty, what are you doing here? 407 00:15:23,183 --> 00:15:24,706 I thought we were having lunch? Are you too busy? 408 00:15:24,749 --> 00:15:26,664 Don't worry, I can make myself scarce until... 409 00:15:28,231 --> 00:15:29,972 Hello. 410 00:15:30,016 --> 00:15:32,453 So you're the murderers. That's exciting. 411 00:15:32,496 --> 00:15:34,324 Is that a green-crested cockatoo in that cage? 412 00:15:34,368 --> 00:15:36,674 Very distinctive coo.[bird chirping] 413 00:15:36,718 --> 00:15:38,502 I studied ornithology. 414 00:15:38,546 --> 00:15:41,331 Well, me and Vanilla Ice are on the way to the vet, 415 00:15:41,375 --> 00:15:43,290 but I'm happy to help. H-How can I? 416 00:15:43,333 --> 00:15:44,639 MARGARET: Mr. Briggs, during voir dire, 417 00:15:44,682 --> 00:15:48,643 did you speak to juror number nine Irene at all? 418 00:15:48,686 --> 00:15:51,559 No. Didn't say two words to each other. 419 00:15:51,602 --> 00:15:53,909 She seemed nice, though. 420 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,606 Now, what does, uh, "voir dire" mean again? 421 00:15:55,650 --> 00:15:58,131 Oh, it's French. It means "To speak the truth." 422 00:15:58,174 --> 00:16:00,133 TODD: And, uh, Lou, 423 00:16:00,176 --> 00:16:03,440 on the day she died, how did you get your water bottle? 424 00:16:03,484 --> 00:16:05,965 Oh, I... I don't remember. Uh... 425 00:16:06,008 --> 00:16:07,140 Somebody handed it to me, I guess. 426 00:16:07,183 --> 00:16:08,619 MARGARET: And Blake, 427 00:16:08,663 --> 00:16:10,882 do you remember if you drank from your bottle of water? 428 00:16:10,926 --> 00:16:13,885 I mean, does it matter? You know, did I even have a water? 429 00:16:13,929 --> 00:16:15,539 I'm pretty hydrated, brah. [chuckles] 430 00:16:15,583 --> 00:16:18,542 Uh, yes. You went to U of O, 431 00:16:18,586 --> 00:16:21,197 as did Irene, 40 years earlier. 432 00:16:21,241 --> 00:16:23,025 Who's Irene? 433 00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:24,592 The juror who died? 434 00:16:24,635 --> 00:16:26,768 Uh, did you ever run into her 435 00:16:26,811 --> 00:16:28,509 at any alumni events? 436 00:16:28,552 --> 00:16:30,859 Are you sure that was her name? The old chick? 437 00:16:30,902 --> 00:16:32,078 Irene? 438 00:16:32,121 --> 00:16:33,383 As for alumni events: maybe? 439 00:16:33,427 --> 00:16:34,819 I'm usually pretty hammered at those. 440 00:16:34,863 --> 00:16:36,386 All right, Bryce.It's Blake. 441 00:16:36,430 --> 00:16:37,997 Same thing. 442 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,694 So, Cole, 443 00:16:39,737 --> 00:16:41,391 where do you live? 444 00:16:41,435 --> 00:16:43,741 Um, Hillsdale area. 445 00:16:43,785 --> 00:16:45,613 Hmm. And, Cole, do you live alone? 446 00:16:45,656 --> 00:16:48,355 Uh, no. I actually live with this lovely older couple. 447 00:16:48,398 --> 00:16:49,573 Jean and Peter. 448 00:16:49,617 --> 00:16:52,141 Ah, Jean and Peter Winbar? Your parents? 449 00:16:53,664 --> 00:16:57,277 Cole, I-I don't think I actually believe that you are 18. 450 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,802 Um, okay, so... 451 00:17:00,845 --> 00:17:04,109 I may have lied about my age so I could get a fake I.D. 452 00:17:04,153 --> 00:17:06,329 and vote.Oh. 453 00:17:06,373 --> 00:17:08,288 I-I didn't know they were gonna give me jury duty. 454 00:17:08,330 --> 00:17:11,160 W-Where do your parents think you are right now? 455 00:17:11,204 --> 00:17:13,162 A-Algebra?Okay. 456 00:17:13,205 --> 00:17:14,729 Okay, so you're the detective. 457 00:17:14,771 --> 00:17:16,731 And you're the lawyer. 458 00:17:16,773 --> 00:17:18,340 Like good cop, bad cop? I love it. 459 00:17:18,385 --> 00:17:19,951 I love murder. I mean, all crime, really. 460 00:17:19,994 --> 00:17:21,779 Oh, my God, I'm so excited. Are we gonna recreate the crime? 461 00:17:21,823 --> 00:17:23,128 Because I brought the clothes I was wearing. 462 00:17:23,172 --> 00:17:25,957 Uh, hey, Sydney, that really wasn't necessary. 463 00:17:26,001 --> 00:17:27,394 Is this gonna be on PDX Files? 464 00:17:27,436 --> 00:17:29,309 Is Lea Luna here? 465 00:17:29,352 --> 00:17:31,311 I have not had one sip of water since it happened. 466 00:17:31,354 --> 00:17:33,574 Hello? Flavorless poison. 467 00:17:33,617 --> 00:17:35,228 Okay, motive-wise, what are your thoughts? 468 00:17:35,271 --> 00:17:36,751 I have some theories. It's either a sex crime 469 00:17:36,794 --> 00:17:38,187 or someone has a twin. 470 00:17:38,231 --> 00:17:41,538 Okay, okay. Sydney? Sydney, did you talk to Irene? 471 00:17:41,582 --> 00:17:43,149 Ah. Okay. 472 00:17:43,192 --> 00:17:45,673 Crafting an alternate theory. 473 00:17:45,716 --> 00:17:46,978 But alas, no. 474 00:17:47,022 --> 00:17:48,719 I was taking notes. 475 00:17:48,763 --> 00:17:50,156 All right. Who's your front-runner? 476 00:17:50,199 --> 00:17:51,505 I think...O-Okay, Sydney. 477 00:17:51,548 --> 00:17:53,289 Thank you, but you can go now. 478 00:17:53,333 --> 00:17:55,074 What about my blood and my saliva samples? 479 00:17:55,117 --> 00:17:57,032 What about my fingerprints? 480 00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,252 Aren't we lie detector-ing? 481 00:17:59,295 --> 00:18:00,340 Thank you, Sydney. We don't do that here. 482 00:18:00,383 --> 00:18:02,081 This is Margaret Wright's office. 483 00:18:02,124 --> 00:18:04,257 Ah. Yes.The glass was my idea. She wanted brick. 484 00:18:04,300 --> 00:18:06,476 There's asbestos in the ceiling. 485 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,782 AMY [over phone]: Hey.Hey. 486 00:18:07,825 --> 00:18:09,131 What's happening? What's the latest? 487 00:18:09,175 --> 00:18:10,350 Uh, well, we're still interviewing 488 00:18:10,393 --> 00:18:11,612 alternative suspects. 489 00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:13,570 But my mom wanted to ask if you remembered 490 00:18:13,614 --> 00:18:16,443 anything in particular about juror number seven? Blake? 491 00:18:16,486 --> 00:18:19,054 Oh, the bro-ey frat guy?Yeah. 492 00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:21,752 No. He hit on me, but, like, in a bored way. 493 00:18:21,796 --> 00:18:24,581 I don't think that he'd be smart enough to... 494 00:18:24,625 --> 00:18:27,628 Yeah, yeah, I don't think so, either. [chuckles] 495 00:18:27,671 --> 00:18:30,326 But, um, h-how are you doing? 496 00:18:30,370 --> 00:18:32,067 Do you need anything? 497 00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:34,287 [sighs] Well, DoorDash won't deliver 498 00:18:34,330 --> 00:18:36,724 because my account was hacked, 499 00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:39,335 and somebody had $300 worth of pizza on me. 500 00:18:39,379 --> 00:18:40,380 Yikes. 501 00:18:40,423 --> 00:18:42,033 So I'm eating all my outdated 502 00:18:42,077 --> 00:18:43,905 pandemic canned fish. 503 00:18:43,948 --> 00:18:45,124 Hmm. 504 00:18:45,167 --> 00:18:48,562 Well, have you heard of Todd Dash? 505 00:18:49,563 --> 00:18:51,347 [both chuckle] 506 00:18:53,349 --> 00:18:55,395 Yeah, Amy's not convinced it's the bee. 507 00:18:55,438 --> 00:18:57,223 And in my humble opinion, 508 00:18:57,266 --> 00:18:59,225 I don't think it's Birdman, Young Angela Lansbury 509 00:18:59,268 --> 00:19:00,791 or the Boy Wonder. 510 00:19:00,835 --> 00:19:04,317 Uh-huh. Well, I'm more concerned about these two no-shows. 511 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,101 Rachel and Zena.FRANCEY:Yeah. 512 00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:07,015 They didn't even bother calling me back. 513 00:19:07,058 --> 00:19:08,538 But I keep thinking about this 514 00:19:08,582 --> 00:19:11,585 Rachel/financial investment connection. 515 00:19:11,628 --> 00:19:13,326 Yeah, what if she lost money through Lehman Brothers? 516 00:19:13,369 --> 00:19:15,023 What if she knew Irene? 517 00:19:15,066 --> 00:19:17,112 Maybe we should pay a visit to Rachel 518 00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:19,636 at 3710 Military Road? 519 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,509 Todd, jacket. Francey, I'll be right back. 520 00:19:22,552 --> 00:19:24,206 Wait, you're gonna leave me here with your sister?Y-Yeah, no... 521 00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:27,122 No, seriously? Margaret? No, Margaret. 522 00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:28,341 [sighs] 523 00:19:32,214 --> 00:19:36,349 Pretty sure we had a VW bus tailing us on the way over here. 524 00:19:36,392 --> 00:19:38,002 It's gone now, though. 525 00:19:38,046 --> 00:19:41,789 Well, Rachel has never been part of a class action lawsuit, 526 00:19:41,832 --> 00:19:43,660 and she does not trust corporations. 527 00:19:43,704 --> 00:19:45,532 Oh, they always say that to get out of jury duty. 528 00:19:45,575 --> 00:19:46,794 Hmm. 529 00:19:49,057 --> 00:19:51,799 Hey, what did Aunt Patty mean the other night 530 00:19:51,842 --> 00:19:54,976 when she said that sometimes death could be convenient? 531 00:19:55,019 --> 00:19:56,369 [coughs] 532 00:19:56,412 --> 00:19:57,935 Mom? 533 00:19:57,979 --> 00:19:59,981 Ugh... [mutters] 534 00:20:00,024 --> 00:20:02,723 Do you remember when she told us that the-the easiest way 535 00:20:02,766 --> 00:20:05,247 to dispose of our Christmas tree was to eat it? 536 00:20:05,291 --> 00:20:06,901 I mean, she's bonkers. 537 00:20:07,945 --> 00:20:09,773 She makes my skin crawl. 538 00:20:09,817 --> 00:20:10,687 Why? 539 00:20:12,515 --> 00:20:15,301 Why do any siblings not get along? 540 00:20:15,344 --> 00:20:16,954 I mean, i-it can be awful 541 00:20:16,998 --> 00:20:18,826 having someone trailing you through life 542 00:20:18,869 --> 00:20:21,220 and keeping tabs on you and... 543 00:20:21,263 --> 00:20:23,613 and remembering your every mistake. 544 00:20:23,657 --> 00:20:26,007 It's like you and Lawrence. Y-You just don't get along. 545 00:20:26,050 --> 00:20:27,487 Whoa. There she is. 546 00:20:30,751 --> 00:20:33,580 Mommy! Hi. Oh. 547 00:20:33,623 --> 00:20:35,495 Okay. Let's go. 548 00:20:35,538 --> 00:20:37,932 MARGARET: Hi. I'm Margaret WrightHi. 549 00:20:37,975 --> 00:20:39,194 from Crest, Folding & Song. 550 00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:40,804 Actually, it's just Crest & Folding now. 551 00:20:40,848 --> 00:20:43,198 And this is my private investigator Todd Wright. 552 00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:44,852 Same last name. I'm her father. 553 00:20:44,895 --> 00:20:47,333 Oh, yeah, I got your message, I've just been really busy. 554 00:20:47,376 --> 00:20:48,812 I'll call and get something scheduled. 555 00:20:48,856 --> 00:20:51,119 Wai-- Or-or you could just tell us right now 556 00:20:51,162 --> 00:20:52,729 if you ever lost any money through Lehman Brothers 557 00:20:52,773 --> 00:20:55,471 or knew Irene Kimpton before? 558 00:20:55,515 --> 00:20:57,168 MAN: Honey, who is that? 559 00:20:57,212 --> 00:20:59,301 I really can't talk. 560 00:20:59,345 --> 00:21:01,303 I can't. Wait. 561 00:21:03,697 --> 00:21:05,699 Uh, go get the car. Go get the car. 562 00:21:06,787 --> 00:21:09,442 So, not suspicious at all, huh? 563 00:21:09,485 --> 00:21:12,009 We may have to subpoena her financial records 564 00:21:12,053 --> 00:21:15,404 and bank account statements, all of it. 565 00:21:15,448 --> 00:21:17,450 Wait a minute. 566 00:21:17,493 --> 00:21:18,842 Where is she going? 567 00:21:18,886 --> 00:21:20,714 Todd? Oh, Todd, she's getting away. 568 00:21:20,757 --> 00:21:22,281 She's getting away. What are we gonna do? 569 00:21:22,324 --> 00:21:23,847 Okay, let's calm down. I snuck got my little friend the tNAB 570 00:21:23,891 --> 00:21:28,112 into her bumper, and looks like she's headed south. 571 00:21:28,156 --> 00:21:30,854 Ooh, Todd, I could kiss you. 572 00:21:30,898 --> 00:21:32,334 Well, I'd rather you drive. 573 00:21:36,904 --> 00:21:38,514 Mommy! 574 00:21:39,776 --> 00:21:41,778 ♪ 575 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,568 Does Rachel have two families? 576 00:21:54,791 --> 00:21:56,576 Yes, I have two families. 577 00:21:56,619 --> 00:21:58,099 You don't know how difficult this is, 578 00:21:58,142 --> 00:22:00,014 what a fine line I'm walking. 579 00:22:00,057 --> 00:22:02,059 I fell in love with Thad, 580 00:22:02,103 --> 00:22:03,539 and then I found Bryce and his son. 581 00:22:03,583 --> 00:22:05,324 That is confusing. 582 00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:06,325 Do you have any idea how many stories 583 00:22:06,368 --> 00:22:07,326 I have to keep straight? 584 00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:08,762 I can imagine. 585 00:22:08,805 --> 00:22:10,459 I don't have time to murder anyone. 586 00:22:10,503 --> 00:22:13,201 And Irene and I were friendly. 587 00:22:13,244 --> 00:22:15,334 We laughed about the whole investment connection. 588 00:22:15,377 --> 00:22:16,770 She lost money, too. 589 00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:19,512 Look, we even took a selfie together. 590 00:22:19,555 --> 00:22:20,948 My second husband got suspicious, 591 00:22:20,991 --> 00:22:23,254 so I sent him this to prove that I was on jury duty. 592 00:22:23,298 --> 00:22:24,473 Question: how do you decide which husband 593 00:22:24,517 --> 00:22:25,822 to call your second? 594 00:22:25,866 --> 00:22:26,823 MARGARET: Um...TODD: Ow. 595 00:22:26,867 --> 00:22:27,998 Can you please send me that photo? 596 00:22:28,042 --> 00:22:29,565 You can just email it to... 597 00:22:29,609 --> 00:22:32,089 I'll AirDrop it to you, but then you really have to leave. 598 00:22:32,133 --> 00:22:34,353 Oh, my goodness. How did you do that? 599 00:22:34,396 --> 00:22:35,484 TODD: Mom? 600 00:22:35,528 --> 00:22:37,878 Ten years old, this technology. 601 00:22:37,921 --> 00:22:39,445 Why don't you, uh, send me that photo? 602 00:22:39,488 --> 00:22:42,317 Oh, of course. Let me just AirPlop it to you. 603 00:22:42,361 --> 00:22:44,711 AirDrop, Mom. 604 00:22:44,754 --> 00:22:48,758 Wait. You're not "Sleuthy McSleutherson," are you? 605 00:22:48,802 --> 00:22:50,456 What? No. Are you kidding me? 606 00:22:50,499 --> 00:22:51,935 Well, then-then, who is that? 607 00:22:51,979 --> 00:22:53,197 It's right there on my phone. Look. 608 00:22:53,241 --> 00:22:55,199 I don't know. It must be someone else nearby. 609 00:22:55,243 --> 00:22:56,766 Wait, Mom, look. 610 00:22:56,810 --> 00:22:58,115 Oh, my God. 611 00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:00,291 Someone isfollowing us. 612 00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:03,556 Sleuthy. 613 00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:07,690 Ah. Good morning. 614 00:23:07,734 --> 00:23:09,562 You caught me. I've been following you all day. 615 00:23:09,605 --> 00:23:10,998 I put a tNAB on your car. 616 00:23:11,041 --> 00:23:12,216 What? Hey, that's my thing. 617 00:23:12,260 --> 00:23:13,522 SYDNEY: It's all for my investigation. 618 00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:14,828 Your investigation? 619 00:23:14,871 --> 00:23:15,916 Do you know how long I have waited 620 00:23:15,959 --> 00:23:17,396 to be involved in a murder? 621 00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:19,789 And then it just happened. Someone died near me. 622 00:23:19,833 --> 00:23:22,009 I'm famous. I'll have a podcast. 623 00:23:22,052 --> 00:23:23,924 People will dress as me for Halloween. 624 00:23:23,967 --> 00:23:25,186 Oh, Sydney, you have to stop this. 625 00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:26,187 This could be very dangerous. 626 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:27,188 And I know who it is. 627 00:23:27,231 --> 00:23:28,363 It's Rachel. She's a liar. 628 00:23:28,407 --> 00:23:30,060 Two families? And she hated Irene. 629 00:23:30,104 --> 00:23:31,235 Okay, I see what you're saying about the liar aspect, 630 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:32,976 but do you think that automatically 631 00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:34,282 makes her a murderer? 632 00:23:34,325 --> 00:23:36,110 I mean, that might just be a red herring. 633 00:23:36,153 --> 00:23:37,372 Plus, I think that-- Sorry.Todd, Todd. 634 00:23:37,416 --> 00:23:38,808 Irene and Rachel were apparently fine. 635 00:23:38,852 --> 00:23:41,202 Look, they took this photo together. 636 00:23:41,245 --> 00:23:43,291 Uh, oh, my God. 637 00:23:43,334 --> 00:23:45,424 What?Oh, oh, my God. That-That's it. 638 00:23:45,467 --> 00:23:46,729 What? W-What? What do you see? 639 00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:48,644 No. I call this. This is mine. 640 00:23:48,688 --> 00:23:51,038 [stammers] Ow!No, no, no. Goodbye. I've got to go! 641 00:23:52,431 --> 00:23:54,084 [tires screeching] 642 00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:59,307 Do we go after her, or... 643 00:23:59,350 --> 00:24:01,744 MARGARET: What did she see in this photo? 644 00:24:01,788 --> 00:24:04,181 TODD: This is Aunt Patty's charity event? 645 00:24:04,225 --> 00:24:06,488 WOMAN: Thank you so much for coming. 646 00:24:06,532 --> 00:24:09,709 We are delighted to honor one individual... 647 00:24:09,752 --> 00:24:12,494 Patty. I'm the honoree this evening. 648 00:24:12,538 --> 00:24:14,061 WOMAN: Enjoy the food and drink. 649 00:24:14,104 --> 00:24:16,585 All 97% cruelty free. 650 00:24:16,629 --> 00:24:18,718 [applause]Okay, so the refugees 651 00:24:18,761 --> 00:24:21,155 that Aunt Patty is helping are rabbits? 652 00:24:21,198 --> 00:24:22,678 They're rabbit refugees. 653 00:24:22,722 --> 00:24:25,507 And what about this food and drink is three percent cruel? 654 00:24:25,551 --> 00:24:27,378 Isn't this fun? BOTH: Mm. 655 00:24:27,422 --> 00:24:29,772 I'm so glad you're here. 656 00:24:29,816 --> 00:24:32,558 Whew. I haven't had hard cider in decades. 657 00:24:33,646 --> 00:24:35,561 Hey, um, Aunt Patty, 658 00:24:35,604 --> 00:24:37,258 Todd and I were talking.Mm-hmm? 659 00:24:37,301 --> 00:24:38,607 What did you mean the other night 660 00:24:38,651 --> 00:24:40,435 when you said that "death can be convenient"? 661 00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:42,524 TODD: Yeah, a-and then you said, uh, 662 00:24:42,568 --> 00:24:44,308 "Ask your Mom."Yeah. 663 00:24:44,352 --> 00:24:46,485 Oh, that. Well, y-you know. 664 00:24:46,528 --> 00:24:48,487 Your mother and your father Oswald. 665 00:24:48,530 --> 00:24:50,314 Ages ago. 666 00:24:50,358 --> 00:24:52,578 Uh, she didn't have to leave him because he died. 667 00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:56,625 Wait, Aunt Patty.Mm-hmm? 668 00:24:56,669 --> 00:24:59,193 Our mom was gonna leave our dad? 669 00:24:59,236 --> 00:25:02,283 Yes, she was miserable. Like Allison. 670 00:25:02,326 --> 00:25:03,806 I mean, Chuck is sweet, 671 00:25:03,850 --> 00:25:05,982 but we can all tell you're unhappy, sweetie. 672 00:25:06,026 --> 00:25:07,636 Your mother was in a similar predicament. 673 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,465 She put some plans into motion, but then... 674 00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:12,249 [imitates choking]Patty. 675 00:25:12,293 --> 00:25:13,947 What are you talking about? 676 00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:15,557 [applause]Oh, here it is. This is me. This is the plaque. 677 00:25:15,601 --> 00:25:17,646 WOMAN: And now, the moment we've all been waiting for. 678 00:25:18,734 --> 00:25:20,040 PATTY: "Augie Norman"? 679 00:25:20,083 --> 00:25:21,824 That's not my name. Wait. 680 00:25:21,868 --> 00:25:23,652 Wait, I know. 681 00:25:23,696 --> 00:25:27,743 I think I donated that money to the wild hawk rescue. 682 00:25:27,787 --> 00:25:29,310 Don't hawks eat rabbits? 683 00:25:29,353 --> 00:25:31,094 Oh, yeah. [chuckles] 684 00:25:31,138 --> 00:25:33,575 This is just a room full of crazy rabbit people. 685 00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:35,490 Hello.Okay. Let's go. 686 00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:37,971 Yeah.My good word, what were you thinking? 687 00:25:38,014 --> 00:25:39,886 [overlapping chatter] 688 00:25:43,367 --> 00:25:46,327 I can't tell you how good this is. 689 00:25:46,370 --> 00:25:47,546 Thank you so much. 690 00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:50,636 Hey. Are you okay? 691 00:25:50,679 --> 00:25:53,595 Oh, yeah. Sorry. It's just, um... 692 00:25:53,639 --> 00:25:55,075 Long day searching for the real killer? 693 00:25:55,118 --> 00:25:57,120 Yeah. Mm-hmm. 694 00:25:57,164 --> 00:26:01,603 And, um, I-I know we don't know each other very well, but... 695 00:26:01,647 --> 00:26:04,388 earlier tonight, I got this weird info 696 00:26:04,432 --> 00:26:06,347 about my parents' marriage, 697 00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:07,696 back when my dad died. 698 00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:09,132 Oh, wow. 699 00:26:09,176 --> 00:26:10,394 Yeah.I'm so sorry. 700 00:26:10,438 --> 00:26:12,222 No.Um, do you, um... 701 00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:13,484 Do you need to talk? 702 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,315 How old were you? 703 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,534 When h-he... 704 00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:21,492 Fourteen. 705 00:26:21,536 --> 00:26:24,147 He was a doctor. 706 00:26:24,191 --> 00:26:26,497 He went to a medical conference in San Francisco 707 00:26:26,541 --> 00:26:28,543 and he had a heart attack. 708 00:26:28,587 --> 00:26:30,110 Yeah. 709 00:26:30,153 --> 00:26:31,415 My brother and sister were both in college, 710 00:26:31,459 --> 00:26:34,854 so my mom and I were home alone. 711 00:26:34,897 --> 00:26:37,857 Together. Not dealing with it. 712 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:40,990 And now you find out there's this whole other backstory? 713 00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:42,992 Yeah. 714 00:26:43,036 --> 00:26:45,647 And she was... 715 00:26:45,691 --> 00:26:47,301 she wanted to leave him. 716 00:26:47,344 --> 00:26:50,173 Or I guess, she was leaving him. 717 00:26:50,217 --> 00:26:54,221 Well, hey, I don't mean to talk about me 718 00:26:54,264 --> 00:26:56,266 when we're talking about you... [chuckles] 719 00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:57,703 ...but I-I do think I kind of know how you feel. 720 00:26:57,746 --> 00:26:59,095 You do? 721 00:26:59,139 --> 00:27:01,750 Yeah. My mom was... 722 00:27:01,794 --> 00:27:04,579 S-She screwed over my dad pretty bad. 723 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:06,015 Mm-hmm.Cheated on him, 724 00:27:06,059 --> 00:27:09,062 made us lie in family court to get custody. 725 00:27:09,105 --> 00:27:11,107 It was so ugly. 726 00:27:11,151 --> 00:27:13,240 Mm.She was always good to me, though. 727 00:27:13,283 --> 00:27:15,764 You know, supporting me, wanting me to succeed. 728 00:27:15,808 --> 00:27:18,158 She really wanted me to do Rose Festival, 729 00:27:18,201 --> 00:27:20,726 'cause of the college scholarship and everything. 730 00:27:20,769 --> 00:27:24,773 But I also think I knew that... 731 00:27:24,817 --> 00:27:26,949 inside, she was a... 732 00:27:26,993 --> 00:27:28,821 a bad person. 733 00:27:30,257 --> 00:27:31,737 Huh. 734 00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:34,130 I don't think my mom was bad. 735 00:27:34,174 --> 00:27:36,219 Well, was she good to you? 736 00:27:37,307 --> 00:27:39,135 Yeah. 737 00:27:39,179 --> 00:27:40,963 [phone ringing]Hold on one second. 738 00:27:41,007 --> 00:27:43,226 Hey, Mom.MARGARET [over phone]: Todd. 739 00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:45,489 Someone needs to check on Amy immediately. 740 00:27:45,533 --> 00:27:46,839 I'm-I'm fairly sure I know where she is, 741 00:27:46,882 --> 00:27:48,231 but why, what's going on? 742 00:27:48,275 --> 00:27:49,798 The police think someone 743 00:27:49,842 --> 00:27:52,018 may be knocking the jurors off one by one. 744 00:27:52,061 --> 00:27:54,803 Wait, what? Why would they think that? 745 00:27:54,847 --> 00:27:58,372 Because Sydney, that juror who was following us today-- 746 00:27:58,415 --> 00:28:00,983 Sleuthy McSleutherson-- she's dead. 747 00:28:01,027 --> 00:28:02,942 They strangled her. 748 00:28:12,212 --> 00:28:13,343 Todd, Todd. Come here. Look at this. 749 00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:14,867 Uh-huh.Sydney sent me this photo 750 00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:16,085 right before her death. 751 00:28:16,129 --> 00:28:17,173 What is this? What was she... 752 00:28:17,217 --> 00:28:18,958 I think this photo got her killed. 753 00:28:19,001 --> 00:28:20,916 Look closely. 754 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,526 Right there. Look at the gloves. 755 00:28:22,570 --> 00:28:24,137 Now pull up the, uh, picture that Rachel gave you. 756 00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:25,704 Rachel?Uh-huh. 757 00:28:25,747 --> 00:28:28,619 Wait a second. Are those the same black gloves? 758 00:28:28,663 --> 00:28:29,795 Mm-hmm. 759 00:28:29,838 --> 00:28:31,884 Sydney got all excited about gloves? 760 00:28:31,927 --> 00:28:34,147 Because gloves don't leave fingerprints on water bottles. 761 00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:36,192 And the real killer put the poison in 762 00:28:36,236 --> 00:28:38,412 and never left a trace. 763 00:28:38,455 --> 00:28:40,153 Uh, where's that security camera footage 764 00:28:40,196 --> 00:28:41,589 from the courthouse hallway? 765 00:28:42,677 --> 00:28:44,374 MARGARET: Okay, Rachel and Cole. 766 00:28:44,418 --> 00:28:45,811 Clearly no gloves. 767 00:28:45,854 --> 00:28:47,203 That eliminates them.Mm-hmm. 768 00:28:47,247 --> 00:28:48,727 LYLE: Yes, but Lou, Amy and Blake, 769 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:50,250 their hands aren't visible, 770 00:28:50,293 --> 00:28:52,295 which puts them in the unknown category. 771 00:28:52,339 --> 00:28:54,515 TODD: Hey-hey, look-look, freeze, freeze. 772 00:28:54,558 --> 00:28:56,430 Stop. Zoom in. 773 00:28:56,473 --> 00:28:59,085 Gloves. Black gloves. 774 00:28:59,128 --> 00:29:01,174 We have been trying to reach Zena for three days now. 775 00:29:01,217 --> 00:29:03,872 I'm gonna see if Francey has located her yet. 776 00:29:03,916 --> 00:29:05,091 Zena. I knew it. 777 00:29:05,134 --> 00:29:06,309 You said it was the bee. 778 00:29:07,963 --> 00:29:10,705 Zena is in Madagascar. 779 00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:12,228 Madagascar? Mm-hmm. 780 00:29:12,272 --> 00:29:14,840 Madagascar, "the island off of Africa" Madagascar? 781 00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:17,277 Her sister confirmed she left yesterday on a 6:00 a.m. flight. 782 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,018 And Sydney was murdered the night before. 783 00:29:19,061 --> 00:29:20,671 Someone wanted to get out of town fast. 784 00:29:20,715 --> 00:29:22,891 To a country that has no extradition policy 785 00:29:22,935 --> 00:29:24,545 with the U.S.Exactly. 786 00:29:24,588 --> 00:29:26,721 By the way, your sister's here again. 787 00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:27,940 She's waiting for you. 788 00:29:36,252 --> 00:29:38,037 [exhales] 789 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,040 That wasn't your story to tell. 790 00:29:43,172 --> 00:29:45,871 All right, okay. I know. I'm sorry. 791 00:29:45,914 --> 00:29:49,570 I just assumed that they already knew. 792 00:29:49,613 --> 00:29:51,093 I mean, how...It's my family. 793 00:29:51,137 --> 00:29:54,053 My children. My story. 794 00:29:56,882 --> 00:29:59,232 But you were planning on telling them someday. 795 00:29:59,275 --> 00:30:00,494 Right? 796 00:30:00,537 --> 00:30:03,323 Weren't you? 797 00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:04,759 Margaret. 798 00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:06,369 They're all in their 30s now. 799 00:30:06,413 --> 00:30:08,197 Isn't Lawrence turning 40 soon? 800 00:30:08,241 --> 00:30:09,503 Isn't it time? 801 00:30:09,546 --> 00:30:10,939 [moans] 802 00:30:16,945 --> 00:30:21,689 They should really hear it-- what really happened-- from you. 803 00:30:23,256 --> 00:30:25,954 I don't know. Patty, I-I don't know. 804 00:30:33,657 --> 00:30:35,746 Oh-- Did-did you want Mom's ring back? 805 00:30:35,790 --> 00:30:38,053 [laughs]: No. No. No. 806 00:30:38,097 --> 00:30:39,750 You keep it. 807 00:30:41,752 --> 00:30:43,145 It makes your hand look enormous. 808 00:30:48,716 --> 00:30:50,413 [sighs] 809 00:30:54,504 --> 00:30:58,682 I just can't believe this is happening. 810 00:30:58,726 --> 00:31:01,729 I know, but we're on it. 811 00:31:01,772 --> 00:31:03,949 Do you have any leads?Oh, I can't really talk to you... 812 00:31:03,992 --> 00:31:06,690 Todd, come on. This is my case. 813 00:31:06,734 --> 00:31:07,866 You're actually a witness on ourcase. 814 00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:08,910 Are you really gonna be like that? 815 00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:10,999 Like what?Just tell me, 816 00:31:11,043 --> 00:31:12,218 do they think that Amy did it? 817 00:31:12,261 --> 00:31:13,567 The second murder? 818 00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:15,961 Uh, no. 819 00:31:16,004 --> 00:31:18,659 And she does have an alibi for last night. Ish. So... 820 00:31:18,702 --> 00:31:21,270 Ish? Is it a solid alibi? 821 00:31:21,314 --> 00:31:24,665 Uh, yeah. I mean, pretty solid. 822 00:31:24,708 --> 00:31:26,667 She was with me 823 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:27,929 when I found out, and... 824 00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:29,888 Well, why were you with her at that hour? 825 00:31:31,541 --> 00:31:33,413 Oh, my God. Todd. 826 00:31:33,456 --> 00:31:35,850 What?She is your client. That is highly unethical. 827 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:37,330 You violated a whole string of... 828 00:31:37,373 --> 00:31:40,028 Uh, I don't think you get to talk to me about ethics. 829 00:31:40,072 --> 00:31:41,247 Is it ethical for you to kiss me 830 00:31:41,290 --> 00:31:42,422 and then spend two weeks gaslighting me 831 00:31:42,465 --> 00:31:43,727 into thinking it never happened, Susan? 832 00:31:43,771 --> 00:31:45,991 That is not what I did. 833 00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:47,775 Is it not? 834 00:31:47,818 --> 00:31:49,951 MARGARET [distant]: Todd! Todd! 835 00:31:49,995 --> 00:31:51,344 Gaslighting.MARGARET: Todd! 836 00:31:51,387 --> 00:31:53,999 Todd. Todd, good news. 837 00:31:54,042 --> 00:31:55,739 Susan, where are you going? 838 00:31:55,783 --> 00:31:57,741 Turn on the TV. Turn on the TV. Todd! 839 00:31:57,785 --> 00:31:59,700 Oh, careful. Francey, careful. 840 00:31:59,743 --> 00:32:01,267 We've reached Zena.She's connecting right now 841 00:32:01,310 --> 00:32:03,878 on a video call from Madagascar. 842 00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:06,098 Hi. Zena Mitchell? I'm Margaret Wright. 843 00:32:06,141 --> 00:32:07,969 Uh, can you, can you hear me? 844 00:32:08,013 --> 00:32:09,797 Hi. Yes, I-I'm here. 845 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,713 Your assistant said you wanted to talk about my gloves? 846 00:32:12,756 --> 00:32:15,542 Yes! Yes, yes, yes. The gloves, the ones you wore to court. 847 00:32:15,585 --> 00:32:19,676 Uh... I think I may have them with me. 848 00:32:23,158 --> 00:32:24,333 These gloves? 849 00:32:24,377 --> 00:32:26,640 Damn it. They're purple. 850 00:32:26,683 --> 00:32:27,989 Why are you in Madagascar? 851 00:32:28,033 --> 00:32:30,078 The jury was released. 852 00:32:30,122 --> 00:32:32,515 I'm volunteering on a clean water project.MARGARET: Zena, 853 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:34,169 do you remember anything 854 00:32:34,213 --> 00:32:37,085 about black gloves on any jury member? 855 00:32:37,129 --> 00:32:38,826 No, I-I don't think so.MARGARET: Darn it! 856 00:32:38,869 --> 00:32:40,306 Okay. Um, Zena. 857 00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:43,178 This is our juror's box. 858 00:32:43,222 --> 00:32:45,572 You were sitting right next to the accused, Amy, 859 00:32:45,615 --> 00:32:47,748 who was right behind the victim Irene. 860 00:32:47,791 --> 00:32:50,533 You must have seen something. 861 00:32:50,577 --> 00:32:53,319 Okay. Look. 862 00:32:53,362 --> 00:32:54,711 I'm you. Okay? 863 00:32:54,755 --> 00:32:57,671 And you were sitting right here. 864 00:32:57,714 --> 00:33:00,282 Okay? Uh, Todd, uh, sit down in chair number nine. 865 00:33:00,326 --> 00:33:01,718 Wait, so I'm Irene? Really? 866 00:33:01,762 --> 00:33:04,025 I feel more like I'm more of a Sal or even a Cole. 867 00:33:04,069 --> 00:33:06,767 Okay, yeah. Put the water bottle under your chair and... 868 00:33:11,076 --> 00:33:12,207 Wait. 869 00:33:12,251 --> 00:33:14,166 Wait, wait, wait, wait. 870 00:33:16,733 --> 00:33:19,040 Zena. 871 00:33:19,084 --> 00:33:23,349 On the day that you came in, you had to walk 872 00:33:23,392 --> 00:33:25,177 right past Amy's chair. 873 00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:27,222 Is there any chance that you could have 874 00:33:27,266 --> 00:33:30,965 accidentally knocked the water bottle over? 875 00:33:32,836 --> 00:33:34,621 Wait, I think I did knock somebody's water over. 876 00:33:34,664 --> 00:33:37,624 It fell right in front of us, but I picked it back up. 877 00:33:37,667 --> 00:33:38,538 Oh, my God. 878 00:33:38,581 --> 00:33:40,061 Okay, so Zena 879 00:33:40,105 --> 00:33:42,977 accidentally switched the bottles? 880 00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:45,371 Amy's not the killer.MARGARET: No. 881 00:33:45,414 --> 00:33:48,983 Amy was the intended victim. 882 00:33:53,422 --> 00:33:54,728 Someone was trying to kill Amy. 883 00:33:54,771 --> 00:33:56,860 We've been looking at these transcripts all wrong. 884 00:33:56,904 --> 00:33:58,732 Not Irene? Nope. Amy. 885 00:33:58,775 --> 00:33:59,950 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. 886 00:33:59,994 --> 00:34:03,084 At the very first start, the first day... 887 00:34:03,128 --> 00:34:04,346 Um... 888 00:34:04,390 --> 00:34:06,348 Yes. Did we look back at this? 889 00:34:06,392 --> 00:34:08,481 The judge asks to speak to "the two jurors 890 00:34:08,524 --> 00:34:11,223 who have vacation plans that would interrupt jury duty." 891 00:34:11,266 --> 00:34:15,705 Zena, Madagascar, and... Lou, the bird man. 892 00:34:15,748 --> 00:34:17,011 They were both trying to get out of... 893 00:34:17,054 --> 00:34:18,795 No, no, no. 'Cause r-remember, 894 00:34:18,839 --> 00:34:21,275 Lou said that he was "Thrilled to be here" 895 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,061 and "Happy to serve." See? 896 00:34:23,103 --> 00:34:24,453 Why did he change his mind? 897 00:34:24,496 --> 00:34:26,411 Because Lou was juror number 12. 898 00:34:26,455 --> 00:34:27,848 The last one questioned. 899 00:34:27,891 --> 00:34:30,851 Before voir dire, he says he has a planned vacation. 900 00:34:30,893 --> 00:34:34,333 He wants out, then after everybody else has spoken, 901 00:34:34,376 --> 00:34:37,292 suddenly, he says no, he wants to be there. 902 00:34:37,335 --> 00:34:40,600 Somebody before him 903 00:34:40,643 --> 00:34:42,123 must have said something 904 00:34:42,167 --> 00:34:43,297 to change his mind. 905 00:34:43,342 --> 00:34:45,170 Amy. 906 00:34:45,213 --> 00:34:47,259 We need to talk to Lou again now. 907 00:34:47,302 --> 00:34:49,130 TODD: Lou doesn't seem like some maniac 908 00:34:49,174 --> 00:34:51,697 or a deranged serial killer, did he? 909 00:34:51,741 --> 00:34:53,438 I mean, would he kill two people? 910 00:34:53,482 --> 00:34:54,657 [doorbell rings] 911 00:34:56,659 --> 00:34:58,226 Todd.Hmm? 912 00:34:58,270 --> 00:34:59,967 Look. It's the same table 913 00:35:00,010 --> 00:35:03,710 and chair as from the photo that Sydney sent us. 914 00:35:03,753 --> 00:35:07,017 She was here. I don't see the gloves, though. 915 00:35:07,061 --> 00:35:09,846 Okay, so, maybe Lou is not a maniac. 916 00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:11,239 He's just scared. 917 00:35:11,283 --> 00:35:13,285 He-He's a desperate man. 918 00:35:13,328 --> 00:35:15,504 And he found Sydney 919 00:35:15,548 --> 00:35:17,811 snooping around outside his house and he panicked, 920 00:35:17,854 --> 00:35:19,247 because he knew she was on to him. 921 00:35:19,291 --> 00:35:21,336 And then...Kersplitzo. 922 00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:23,033 [snaps fingers] 923 00:35:23,077 --> 00:35:25,427 TODD: That's weird. Look at that photo right there. 924 00:35:25,471 --> 00:35:27,168 Mom. 2008. 925 00:35:27,212 --> 00:35:31,390 That is the year that Amy was crowned Rose Festival Queen. 926 00:35:31,433 --> 00:35:33,392 Who is that? 927 00:35:33,435 --> 00:35:34,871 AMY: That's Rhonda Zane. 928 00:35:34,915 --> 00:35:36,656 And that's me s-standing next to her. 929 00:35:36,699 --> 00:35:38,179 That's my elbow right there. 930 00:35:38,223 --> 00:35:40,181 Yeah, we were vying for, um, 931 00:35:40,225 --> 00:35:42,705 Rose Festival Princess at Jefferson that year. 932 00:35:42,749 --> 00:35:45,621 Wait, Rhonda Zane? But Lou's last name is Briggs. 933 00:35:45,665 --> 00:35:46,970 She had her mom's last name. 934 00:35:47,014 --> 00:35:48,668 So, you and Rhonda were friends? 935 00:35:48,711 --> 00:35:51,061 Mm, more like rivals. 936 00:35:51,105 --> 00:35:53,194 I never stood a chance against her, though. 937 00:35:53,238 --> 00:35:56,110 She was beautiful, smart, talented. 938 00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:58,199 Whole package. But, um... 939 00:35:58,243 --> 00:36:01,550 then something terrible happened to her 940 00:36:01,594 --> 00:36:03,378 right before the festival. 941 00:36:03,422 --> 00:36:05,075 Someone... 942 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:07,208 threw bleach in her face. 943 00:36:07,252 --> 00:36:09,471 Oh, whoa. That's crazy.Who would do that? 944 00:36:09,515 --> 00:36:10,733 They never caught the guy. 945 00:36:10,777 --> 00:36:12,344 But, you know, poor Rhonda 946 00:36:12,387 --> 00:36:15,260 dropped out of the running, disappeared. 947 00:36:15,303 --> 00:36:18,785 And I heard, a few years later, that she... 948 00:36:18,828 --> 00:36:20,395 she took her own life. 949 00:36:20,439 --> 00:36:22,136 Oh, that's awful. Poor girl. 950 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:25,313 So, Lou was seeking revenge. 951 00:36:25,357 --> 00:36:27,750 Revenge? Against who? 952 00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:31,928 Me? 953 00:36:31,972 --> 00:36:34,496 M... Lou was trying to kill me? 954 00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:36,019 Why? I was always nice 955 00:36:36,063 --> 00:36:37,804 to Rhonda, a-and I would never 956 00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:39,458 throw bleach in someone's face. 957 00:36:39,501 --> 00:36:40,937 I would never... 958 00:36:42,678 --> 00:36:44,767 Oh, my God. 959 00:36:44,811 --> 00:36:48,684 Wait, that-that couldn't have been... [stammers] 960 00:36:48,728 --> 00:36:52,122 My mom was always competitive, but she never w-would have... 961 00:36:52,166 --> 00:36:55,517 She wasn't that bad. She... 962 00:36:55,561 --> 00:36:57,998 Um...Do you think it's possible that-that she...? 963 00:36:58,041 --> 00:36:59,129 So Rhonda would be out of the running 964 00:36:59,173 --> 00:37:00,522 and you could be Queen. 965 00:37:00,566 --> 00:37:02,350 Lou blamed Amy for his daughter's death. 966 00:37:02,394 --> 00:37:03,786 Now, when he found out 967 00:37:03,830 --> 00:37:05,266 that it was her on the jury...He snapped. 968 00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:07,442 A crime of passion. Righting a wrong from the past. 969 00:37:07,486 --> 00:37:09,357 And he had to do it... 970 00:37:09,401 --> 00:37:11,751 Before Amy left town for law school. 971 00:37:11,794 --> 00:37:13,318 Motive, opportunity. 972 00:37:13,361 --> 00:37:15,102 Right? And page 37: 973 00:37:15,145 --> 00:37:17,931 Lou "volunteers at the Rose Gardens in Washington Park." 974 00:37:17,974 --> 00:37:20,107 Access to fertilizer for the poison. 975 00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:22,152 We have to call the police. We have to find Lou. 976 00:37:22,196 --> 00:37:24,633 Wait. It's Thursday.Thursday? 977 00:37:24,677 --> 00:37:26,766 BOTH: "I have dinner every Thursday night 978 00:37:26,809 --> 00:37:28,289 at Via Tevere Pizzeria." 979 00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:29,769 He loves "a pizza special"! 980 00:37:30,987 --> 00:37:32,206 Stay here. Be right back. 981 00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:33,860 Okay. 982 00:37:38,343 --> 00:37:40,258 There he is, there he is. It's him. 983 00:37:40,301 --> 00:37:41,389 MARGARET: Oh, that's him right there. 984 00:37:42,956 --> 00:37:44,436 Patty, w-what are you doing here? 985 00:37:44,479 --> 00:37:46,394 You are on a date with a murderer. 986 00:37:46,438 --> 00:37:48,309 No. Again? 987 00:37:48,353 --> 00:37:50,703 Lou Briggs, you're under arrest for the murders of Irene Kimpton 988 00:37:50,746 --> 00:37:52,574 and Sydney Millcross.No, no, no, no. 989 00:37:52,618 --> 00:37:54,184 LOU: You should be arresting Amy Morelin. 990 00:37:54,228 --> 00:37:55,360 She's the one that did it. 991 00:37:55,403 --> 00:37:56,883 Her and her mother, they... 992 00:37:56,926 --> 00:37:58,537 they destroyed my daughter. 993 00:37:58,580 --> 00:38:01,366 All over a stupid crown. They killed her. 994 00:38:01,409 --> 00:38:03,281 What happened to your daughter is tragic. 995 00:38:03,324 --> 00:38:05,108 But Amy had nothing to do with it. 996 00:38:05,152 --> 00:38:06,545 And I spoke to her mother in Spokane. 997 00:38:06,588 --> 00:38:08,938 She's willing to take a lie detector test. 998 00:38:08,982 --> 00:38:11,027 Neither of them had anything to do 999 00:38:11,071 --> 00:38:12,681 with what happened to Rhonda. 1000 00:38:12,725 --> 00:38:14,335 You killed two people 1001 00:38:14,379 --> 00:38:15,641 for nothing. 1002 00:38:15,684 --> 00:38:16,903 Let's go. 1003 00:38:18,383 --> 00:38:20,167 Juror number 12. 1004 00:38:20,210 --> 00:38:22,169 I knew it. 1005 00:38:22,212 --> 00:38:24,302 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 1006 00:38:24,345 --> 00:38:27,870 Total Eclipse Shampoo and their lawyers 1007 00:38:27,914 --> 00:38:29,481 would have you believe that their product 1008 00:38:29,524 --> 00:38:31,918 is completely harmless. 1009 00:38:31,961 --> 00:38:34,486 But they are gaslighting you. 1010 00:38:34,529 --> 00:38:38,751 Denying what they know to be true to protect themselves. 1011 00:38:38,794 --> 00:38:40,013 [coughing] 1012 00:38:43,973 --> 00:38:45,932 [laughs softly] 1013 00:38:45,975 --> 00:38:48,195 Thank you for being here today, 1014 00:38:48,238 --> 00:38:53,418 to help me help my client bring the truth to light. 1015 00:38:54,506 --> 00:38:55,855 AMY: Poor Rhonda. 1016 00:38:55,898 --> 00:38:57,944 Yeah.And Irene. 1017 00:38:57,987 --> 00:38:59,772 And Sydney. Ugh.Yeah. 1018 00:38:59,815 --> 00:39:01,904 This whole thing is just so awful. 1019 00:39:01,948 --> 00:39:04,167 I'm just relieved it wasn't you. 1020 00:39:04,211 --> 00:39:06,344 The killer, I mean.Yeah. For a minute, 1021 00:39:06,387 --> 00:39:07,954 I thought it might have actually been you. 1022 00:39:07,997 --> 00:39:10,348 Me? What? I wasn't even on the jury. 1023 00:39:10,391 --> 00:39:12,045 [laughs] Well, you're very shifty, 1024 00:39:12,088 --> 00:39:13,612 and you were kind of lurking around.What? 1025 00:39:13,655 --> 00:39:15,788 I wasn't lurking. 1026 00:39:17,746 --> 00:39:22,316 What do you think about a second date? 1027 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,188 Outside of my house.Um... 1028 00:39:25,232 --> 00:39:28,104 And murder-free. 1029 00:39:28,148 --> 00:39:31,369 Murder-free? Mm. 1030 00:39:31,412 --> 00:39:34,894 I mean, what would we even talk about? 1031 00:39:58,570 --> 00:40:00,354 How many times did we go to France? 1032 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:01,747 I don't remember that. 1033 00:40:01,790 --> 00:40:03,226 ALLISON: You have to remember this place, 1034 00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:05,925 because you rememb-- you insisted on ordering in French. 1035 00:40:05,968 --> 00:40:08,406 [door slides closed]Hi. 1036 00:40:11,974 --> 00:40:13,367 Um... 1037 00:40:15,064 --> 00:40:16,936 MARGARET: When I gave your father that watch, 1038 00:40:16,979 --> 00:40:18,459 I meant that. 1039 00:40:18,503 --> 00:40:19,808 Forever. 1040 00:40:19,852 --> 00:40:22,158 But you were gonna leave him. 1041 00:40:22,202 --> 00:40:23,595 Yes. 1042 00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:29,209 I overheard you guys fighting. 1043 00:40:29,252 --> 00:40:31,429 I mean, from my room, I could hear everything, and... 1044 00:40:33,474 --> 00:40:35,433 ...I know that he was mad at you because he thought 1045 00:40:35,476 --> 00:40:39,437 that you were lying to him about something. 1046 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,482 I had rented an apartment. 1047 00:40:41,526 --> 00:40:44,398 And I didn't want him to know. 1048 00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:46,356 Patty was gonna help me leave. 1049 00:40:47,619 --> 00:40:49,142 Mom, why didn't you ever tell us any of this? 1050 00:40:49,185 --> 00:40:53,146 Because I wanted... 1051 00:40:53,189 --> 00:40:56,932 I... thought I had to protect you. 1052 00:40:58,064 --> 00:40:59,892 After your father died, 1053 00:40:59,935 --> 00:41:02,764 I didn't want to break your hearts all over again. 1054 00:41:02,808 --> 00:41:06,768 Yeah, but I had no idea you were so unhappy. 1055 00:41:06,812 --> 00:41:09,467 Then we did our job as parents. 1056 00:41:13,819 --> 00:41:16,648 Oswald was a wonderful father. 1057 00:41:18,650 --> 00:41:21,479 But he wasn't a very good husband. 1058 00:41:21,522 --> 00:41:25,221 It became clear that he didn't appreciate me 1059 00:41:25,265 --> 00:41:28,398 or support my career goals. 1060 00:41:28,442 --> 00:41:31,750 And I-I was unhappy. I was frustrated. 1061 00:41:31,793 --> 00:41:33,882 And I wanted more. 1062 00:41:35,884 --> 00:41:41,586 Over time, he became emotionally and verbally abusive. 1063 00:41:44,153 --> 00:41:46,721 And I had to fight. 1064 00:41:46,765 --> 00:41:47,940 For me. 1065 00:41:47,983 --> 00:41:50,638 For myself. 1066 00:41:50,682 --> 00:41:52,597 I didn't know if I should tell you. 1067 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,339 I-I didn't know if I hadto tell you. 1068 00:41:56,383 --> 00:41:58,037 I didn't know what to do. 1069 00:41:59,604 --> 00:42:02,998 I mean, it's really weird to think about him, 1070 00:42:03,042 --> 00:42:05,392 and you, like this. 1071 00:42:05,435 --> 00:42:08,221 I know. 1072 00:42:09,831 --> 00:42:12,617 So, uh, y-you didn't leave him, 1073 00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:14,706 of y-you didn't actually do it because... 1074 00:42:14,749 --> 00:42:16,882 Because I didn't have to. 1075 00:42:17,926 --> 00:42:19,537 Fate intervened. 1076 00:42:31,766 --> 00:42:33,725 Chuck. 1077 00:42:38,251 --> 00:42:39,644 We need... 1078 00:42:41,646 --> 00:42:43,778 We have to talk. 1079 00:42:55,398 --> 00:42:59,359 Captioning sponsored by CBS 1080 00:42:59,402 --> 00:43:03,363 and TOYOTA. 1081 00:43:03,406 --> 00:43:07,410 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org