1 00:00:01,260 --> 00:00:02,100 (gentle music) 2 00:00:02,180 --> 00:00:03,820 - [Reporter] Is it hard trying to live up to this image 3 00:00:03,900 --> 00:00:04,660 that people have of Mick Jagger? 4 00:00:04,740 --> 00:00:06,820 - No, because I don't try to. 5 00:00:06,900 --> 00:00:09,700 - [Reporter] But your own image, Mick Jagger's image. 6 00:00:09,780 --> 00:00:10,901 - I don't believe in images. 7 00:00:10,981 --> 00:00:13,461 It's only press and media that like to have images 8 00:00:13,541 --> 00:00:16,341 because it's useful to put people into categories. 9 00:00:16,421 --> 00:00:18,741 - [Reporter] But how do you see yourself then? 10 00:00:19,941 --> 00:00:21,262 - Oh, that's the most difficult thing of all, 11 00:00:21,342 --> 00:00:23,902 I mean that's what takes you a whole life to find out. 12 00:00:25,382 --> 00:00:28,182 (gentle music) 13 00:00:28,262 --> 00:00:31,583 What most documentaries do is just repeat the same thing 14 00:00:31,663 --> 00:00:32,423 over and over and over. 15 00:00:32,503 --> 00:00:35,623 You've heard all the mythologies repeated 16 00:00:35,703 --> 00:00:37,703 until it becomes true. 17 00:00:39,423 --> 00:00:41,984 People want to put things in boxes, 18 00:00:42,064 --> 00:00:45,864 and it all becomes this cliche box. 19 00:00:45,944 --> 00:00:48,904 And then the easiest thing is just to keep repeating that. 20 00:00:48,984 --> 00:00:52,665 So I guess we'll try, when we're chatting 21 00:00:52,745 --> 00:00:55,585 to expand those boxes. 22 00:00:55,665 --> 00:00:59,705 I think people probably like that idea. 23 00:00:59,785 --> 00:01:04,786 (rock music) (crowd cheering) 24 00:01:05,306 --> 00:01:06,186 - [Narrator] The Rolling Stones 25 00:01:06,266 --> 00:01:08,266 are the ultimate rock and roll band. 26 00:01:09,066 --> 00:01:09,786 (crowd cheering) 27 00:01:09,866 --> 00:01:10,907 - [Jim] It was just magic. 28 00:01:10,987 --> 00:01:11,987 They created this magic 29 00:01:12,067 --> 00:01:14,227 and they've been doing it for how long now? 30 00:01:15,187 --> 00:01:16,987 - [Narrator] A product of their times. 31 00:01:17,067 --> 00:01:19,067 They've helped to define ours. 32 00:01:19,747 --> 00:01:21,988 - [Slash] They have a chemistry together, 33 00:01:22,068 --> 00:01:25,188 a creative inspiration that is magic. 34 00:01:28,308 --> 00:01:30,909 - [Narrator] And Mick Jagger has been out front 35 00:01:30,989 --> 00:01:32,989 for 60 years. 36 00:01:33,829 --> 00:01:35,509 - And he will sing and dance for us 37 00:01:35,589 --> 00:01:37,749 to illustrate his early moves. 38 00:01:39,429 --> 00:01:41,030 - [Jim] They look like Rolling Stones, 39 00:01:41,110 --> 00:01:42,670 they act like Rolling Stones 40 00:01:42,750 --> 00:01:44,750 and they sound like Rolling Stones. 41 00:01:46,390 --> 00:01:48,510 - [Narrator] They set the benchmark for what a rock band 42 00:01:48,590 --> 00:01:53,191 should sound like, look like, feel like. 43 00:01:54,591 --> 00:01:55,871 - If I start looking too mournful 44 00:01:55,951 --> 00:01:57,591 and boring lighten me up a bit. 45 00:01:57,671 --> 00:01:59,591 - [Cameraman] Yeah. 46 00:01:59,671 --> 00:02:04,272 - [Lulu] The Rolling Stones recreated music, fashion. 47 00:02:04,352 --> 00:02:06,352 It is a fact. 48 00:02:06,432 --> 00:02:08,832 - [Narrator] The supreme pop music brand, 49 00:02:08,912 --> 00:02:12,673 they're a link between the counterculture of the 1960s 50 00:02:12,753 --> 00:02:14,753 and the commercial modern world. 51 00:02:18,913 --> 00:02:21,954 Across seven decades, they've written the play book 52 00:02:22,034 --> 00:02:24,034 for modern rock and roll. 53 00:02:25,314 --> 00:02:26,154 - I've got it. 54 00:02:26,234 --> 00:02:28,394 I'm gonna try and keep it light. 55 00:02:28,474 --> 00:02:32,035 - [Narrator] So this is the story of the key ingredients 56 00:02:32,115 --> 00:02:34,155 of the special Rolling Stones recipe. 57 00:02:34,995 --> 00:02:38,155 - [Bon Jovi] Chemistry is something that you can't buy. 58 00:02:38,235 --> 00:02:40,676 That's the magic of a band. 59 00:02:40,756 --> 00:02:42,476 - [Narrator] Keith Richards, 60 00:02:42,556 --> 00:02:46,676 Ronnie Wood and the much missed Charlie Watts. 61 00:02:46,756 --> 00:02:48,276 - [Chrissie] We thought they were gods. 62 00:02:48,356 --> 00:02:49,876 We really did. 63 00:02:49,956 --> 00:02:53,877 - [Narrator] And on vocals, Sir Michael Philip Jagger, 64 00:02:55,677 --> 00:02:56,877 better known as. 65 00:02:56,957 --> 00:02:58,117 - Mick Jagger. 66 00:02:58,197 --> 00:02:59,437 Slate 3. 67 00:02:59,517 --> 00:03:02,118 (gentle music) 68 00:03:06,158 --> 00:03:08,038 - [Journalist] Let's start with a cliche. 69 00:03:08,118 --> 00:03:12,199 - No, no cliches, I thought we weren't doing cliches today. 70 00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:14,639 - Mick Jagger's Mick Jagger. 71 00:03:14,719 --> 00:03:17,799 He's the best frontman in the business. 72 00:03:17,879 --> 00:03:19,679 I mean, he'll get up there and do his stuff 73 00:03:19,759 --> 00:03:21,760 and lay it on you, and he means it. 74 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,480 What you see is what you get. 75 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,600 I mean there's loads of facets and variations on him, 76 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,161 but he's really a very honorable man. 77 00:03:33,241 --> 00:03:35,401 I mean, under all of that crap. 78 00:03:35,481 --> 00:03:37,561 (Keith laughs) 79 00:03:37,641 --> 00:03:41,922 - One of my big jobs is to be a big show-off really, 80 00:03:42,002 --> 00:03:43,842 I mean that's really what it is. 81 00:03:43,922 --> 00:03:47,202 I suppose that's my job for two hours 82 00:03:47,282 --> 00:03:49,002 to make people feel good. 83 00:03:49,082 --> 00:03:51,003 To bring people a joyous experience 84 00:03:51,083 --> 00:03:53,643 that they have a great evening, 85 00:03:53,723 --> 00:03:55,923 and that's what I think my role is. 86 00:03:56,003 --> 00:03:56,723 (gentle music) 87 00:03:56,803 --> 00:04:01,804 ♪ I saw her today at the reception ♪ 88 00:04:03,084 --> 00:04:08,004 ♪ A glass of wine in her hand ♪ 89 00:04:08,084 --> 00:04:12,085 ♪ I knew she would meet her connection ♪ 90 00:04:12,165 --> 00:04:15,645 - [Sheryl] I always loved the idea of being Mick, 91 00:04:15,725 --> 00:04:17,405 one of the greatest front guys, 92 00:04:17,485 --> 00:04:19,285 the greatest rock star of all time. 93 00:04:19,365 --> 00:04:23,126 ♪ No, you can't always get what you want ♪ 94 00:04:23,206 --> 00:04:24,966 And how incredible that would be. 95 00:04:25,046 --> 00:04:29,406 ♪ You can't always get what you want ♪ 96 00:04:29,486 --> 00:04:31,647 - [Lars] It's truly inspirational. 97 00:04:31,727 --> 00:04:36,327 They're the pioneers, they're the ones writing the story. 98 00:04:36,407 --> 00:04:41,448 ♪ But if you try sometimes, you just might find ♪ 99 00:04:41,528 --> 00:04:43,288 ♪ You get what you need ♪ 100 00:04:43,368 --> 00:04:45,648 That's something that requires attention to a lot of detail. 101 00:04:45,728 --> 00:04:48,368 Mick Jagger does it incredibly well. 102 00:04:48,448 --> 00:04:49,928 (gentle music) 103 00:04:50,009 --> 00:04:51,609 - [Chrissie] Mick's not gonna let anything go wrong 104 00:04:51,689 --> 00:04:53,129 'cause he's in control. 105 00:04:53,209 --> 00:04:56,009 ♪ And I went down to the demonstration ♪ 106 00:04:56,089 --> 00:04:58,449 And you just can rely on him. 107 00:04:58,529 --> 00:05:03,610 ♪ To get my fair share of abuse ♪ 108 00:05:03,690 --> 00:05:08,690 ♪ Singing, we're gonna vent our temptation ♪ 109 00:05:09,050 --> 00:05:13,251 ♪ And if we don't we're gonna blow a fifty-amp fuse ♪ 110 00:05:13,331 --> 00:05:14,651 ♪ Sing it to me ♪ 111 00:05:14,731 --> 00:05:19,211 - He's more of a controller and an organizer than he knows. 112 00:05:19,291 --> 00:05:22,692 It's just what he is built to do. 113 00:05:22,772 --> 00:05:25,812 He wants to see this ship sail. 114 00:05:25,892 --> 00:05:29,452 ♪ You can't always get what you want ♪ 115 00:05:29,532 --> 00:05:34,533 - I'm not a control freak, that must be really boring. 116 00:05:35,893 --> 00:05:37,653 ♪ You get what you need ♪ 117 00:05:37,733 --> 00:05:41,814 Someone has to be in control of an enterprise like this, 118 00:05:41,894 --> 00:05:43,774 it's not only about music. 119 00:05:43,854 --> 00:05:47,214 I'm representing the bands in a way 120 00:05:47,294 --> 00:05:49,974 to make sure that they don't get fucked. 121 00:05:50,055 --> 00:05:54,855 (gentle music) (crowd cheering) 122 00:05:54,935 --> 00:05:57,335 - [Narrator] Mick Jagger has fronted the Rolling Stones 123 00:05:57,415 --> 00:05:59,415 for more than half a century. 124 00:06:03,816 --> 00:06:08,136 - I had several neighbors in my little suburban community 125 00:06:08,216 --> 00:06:10,097 who played guitar and so on. 126 00:06:10,177 --> 00:06:12,217 We played together, and I used to go 127 00:06:12,297 --> 00:06:16,697 to these dances I suppose they were, 128 00:06:16,777 --> 00:06:20,218 and there'd be rather greasy bands playing. 129 00:06:20,298 --> 00:06:24,218 And I'd ask could I come, and I was like 15, 16, 130 00:06:24,298 --> 00:06:26,578 "Can I sing a song?" 131 00:06:26,658 --> 00:06:27,778 And they were, yeah, they were nice, 132 00:06:27,858 --> 00:06:29,458 and they'd say, "Yeah, go on then." 133 00:06:29,538 --> 00:06:34,259 ♪ Well you got me running baby, got me hiding too ♪ 134 00:06:34,339 --> 00:06:38,499 ♪ Tell me, tell me baby, what we gonna do ♪ 135 00:06:38,579 --> 00:06:40,500 ♪ Now baby ♪ 136 00:06:40,580 --> 00:06:42,860 And it used to go down quite well. 137 00:06:42,940 --> 00:06:45,700 So, I used to think well, yeah, I can do this. 138 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:47,420 And people seemed to like me. 139 00:06:47,500 --> 00:06:49,980 I mean I didn't have a band. 140 00:06:50,061 --> 00:06:52,341 - [Narrator] The Stones formed in 1962. 141 00:06:52,421 --> 00:06:55,061 And the first classic line-up soon takes shape. 142 00:06:56,101 --> 00:07:01,102 Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman 143 00:07:01,902 --> 00:07:04,742 and the band's founder, Brian Jones. 144 00:07:04,822 --> 00:07:07,222 And this song "Honey, What's Wrong?" 145 00:07:07,302 --> 00:07:09,302 is from their first ever demo. 146 00:07:10,223 --> 00:07:12,503 (gentle music) 147 00:07:12,583 --> 00:07:13,903 (crowd cheering) 148 00:07:13,983 --> 00:07:18,983 ♪ Well now, don't treat me baby, like you used to do ♪ 149 00:07:20,024 --> 00:07:25,024 (crowd cheering) (gentle music) 150 00:07:27,584 --> 00:07:30,825 - A lot of stuff with this Rolling Stones mythology 151 00:07:30,905 --> 00:07:34,025 is that Rolling Stones is this blues band 152 00:07:34,105 --> 00:07:37,105 and started off, and it's all true, 153 00:07:37,185 --> 00:07:39,425 but really the Rolling Stones is a rock band. 154 00:07:39,505 --> 00:07:42,026 It's all bullshit, the mythology. 155 00:07:42,106 --> 00:07:45,866 Rock music was the thing, we loved rock music from the '50s, 156 00:07:45,946 --> 00:07:48,386 records like "Sweet Little Sixteen," Chuck Berry. 157 00:07:49,426 --> 00:07:51,987 We were kids and we were high energy. 158 00:07:52,067 --> 00:07:54,627 What we were popular for was playing this rock music, 159 00:07:54,707 --> 00:07:56,707 that's what we did. 160 00:07:56,787 --> 00:08:01,788 But you had to label yourself as a blues band to get a gig. 161 00:08:04,788 --> 00:08:08,708 We weren't really only just a blues band, 162 00:08:08,788 --> 00:08:10,749 we were an everything band. 163 00:08:10,829 --> 00:08:13,549 (crowd cheering) 164 00:08:18,309 --> 00:08:19,269 - [Narrator] It takes the Stones 165 00:08:19,349 --> 00:08:22,070 just a few months to blow up in the UK 166 00:08:22,150 --> 00:08:26,950 with a sound and image ready for almost instant fame. 167 00:08:27,030 --> 00:08:29,510 (gentle music) 168 00:08:29,590 --> 00:08:31,511 - [Journalist] What's it like being a Stone 169 00:08:31,591 --> 00:08:34,351 and having this 24 hours a day? 170 00:08:34,431 --> 00:08:35,991 - Well, it's something that you get used to, 171 00:08:36,071 --> 00:08:36,871 especially as we've been doing it for, 172 00:08:36,951 --> 00:08:40,472 with all the screaming thing, for about two years now. 173 00:08:40,552 --> 00:08:42,352 And after two years of it 174 00:08:42,432 --> 00:08:43,992 that just becomes part of your life. 175 00:08:44,072 --> 00:08:46,592 - [Patrick] I remember talking to Mick once 176 00:08:46,672 --> 00:08:49,112 and I said what's it like to be famous, 177 00:08:49,192 --> 00:08:52,313 and he said you're not really asking the right person 178 00:08:52,393 --> 00:08:54,993 because I've been famous ever since I was 17. 179 00:08:55,913 --> 00:08:58,233 - [Narrator] From their very first UK number one 180 00:08:58,313 --> 00:08:59,513 and its follow-up, 181 00:08:59,593 --> 00:09:02,474 this cover of Willie Dixon's "Little Red Rooster," 182 00:09:02,554 --> 00:09:05,314 the rise of the Stones is rapid. 183 00:09:05,394 --> 00:09:07,754 Part of a revolution in British pop 184 00:09:07,834 --> 00:09:10,315 that takes place on screen. 185 00:09:10,395 --> 00:09:13,595 ♪ I am the little red rooster ♪ 186 00:09:13,675 --> 00:09:18,675 ♪ Too lazy to crow for day ♪ 187 00:09:23,116 --> 00:09:26,356 ♪ I am the little red rooster ♪ 188 00:09:26,436 --> 00:09:29,836 ♪ Too lazy to crow for day ♪ 189 00:09:29,916 --> 00:09:33,877 - Television, it's hugely important. 190 00:09:33,957 --> 00:09:36,717 Millions of people would watch these shows. 191 00:09:36,797 --> 00:09:40,718 When I was a teenager, there was a couple of rock shows, 192 00:09:40,798 --> 00:09:41,918 but you would never miss that show 193 00:09:41,998 --> 00:09:43,958 because it was the only rock show a week. 194 00:09:44,038 --> 00:09:46,958 - [Lulu] It is a fact, the streets in this country 195 00:09:47,038 --> 00:09:49,278 would be empty on a Friday night 196 00:09:49,358 --> 00:09:53,519 because everyone was watching "Ready, Steady, Go!" 197 00:09:53,599 --> 00:09:55,599 - I could see how important this was. 198 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,559 Everyone's watching this. 199 00:09:59,119 --> 00:10:01,960 ♪ Hounds begin to howl ♪ 200 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,520 That's gonna stand you out from all the other people, 201 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,360 so you've got to learn to work that medium. 202 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,441 You've got to figure out 203 00:10:11,521 --> 00:10:13,521 how you're gonna make an impression. 204 00:10:18,561 --> 00:10:23,722 ♪ If you see my little red rooster ♪ 205 00:10:23,802 --> 00:10:26,802 ♪ Please drive him home ♪ 206 00:10:26,882 --> 00:10:28,402 I used to go to "Ready, Steady, Go!" 207 00:10:28,482 --> 00:10:29,922 when we weren't even on. 208 00:10:30,002 --> 00:10:32,563 I would work out how the camera angles worked. 209 00:10:32,643 --> 00:10:35,163 I would work out what we were gonna do. 210 00:10:36,883 --> 00:10:40,044 ♪ Ain't had no peace in the farm yard ♪ 211 00:10:40,124 --> 00:10:43,244 ♪ Since my little red rooster's been gone ♪ 212 00:10:43,324 --> 00:10:47,524 And I'd practice my moves at home, and I would be rehearsed. 213 00:10:49,524 --> 00:10:52,365 (harmonica music) 214 00:10:55,645 --> 00:10:57,485 - [Narrator] But to really make it big in the UK 215 00:10:57,565 --> 00:11:01,206 and in America the Stones need more songs. 216 00:11:02,086 --> 00:11:03,286 Hit songs. 217 00:11:03,366 --> 00:11:05,366 And preferably written by them. 218 00:11:11,887 --> 00:11:15,487 - Andrew Oldham who was our manager at the time, 219 00:11:16,567 --> 00:11:20,328 said, you've got to start writing songs like the Beatles 220 00:11:20,408 --> 00:11:22,848 because we can't just keep doing cover songs. 221 00:11:22,928 --> 00:11:27,408 We knew we had to be a pop band, 222 00:11:28,488 --> 00:11:30,609 we wanted to write pop songs. 223 00:11:32,769 --> 00:11:35,649 - I mean Andrew wasn't particularly talented 224 00:11:35,729 --> 00:11:39,329 in any direction, Andrew was just Andrew. 225 00:11:39,409 --> 00:11:44,370 And what Andrew did was saw possibilities. 226 00:11:44,450 --> 00:11:46,690 - [Narrator] It's song writing that turns the Stones 227 00:11:46,770 --> 00:11:49,250 into global superstars. 228 00:11:49,330 --> 00:11:54,291 And the writers of the hits are Keith and Mick, not Brian. 229 00:11:54,371 --> 00:11:57,291 - Good, let me get up here and say hi to Brian. 230 00:11:57,371 --> 00:12:01,012 Brian is one of the writers of most of the things, right? 231 00:12:01,092 --> 00:12:03,812 - No, I'm not actually, well, I'm not really a writer. 232 00:12:03,892 --> 00:12:04,852 - He was very musical 233 00:12:04,932 --> 00:12:07,332 so he could pick up different instruments, 234 00:12:07,412 --> 00:12:09,972 and he was quite innovative. 235 00:12:10,053 --> 00:12:12,413 A lot of his contributions were matched 236 00:12:12,493 --> 00:12:15,653 perhaps not from melodies or lyrics or anything 237 00:12:15,733 --> 00:12:19,733 but were from licks that he played as a musician. 238 00:12:19,813 --> 00:12:22,094 - Mick and Keith write more than any of us. 239 00:12:22,934 --> 00:12:23,934 - These are the two that are supposed 240 00:12:24,014 --> 00:12:25,534 to be all the writing talent. 241 00:12:25,614 --> 00:12:27,534 You fellas get together and do most of the writing, right? 242 00:12:27,614 --> 00:12:28,494 - Yeah, that's right, yeah. 243 00:12:28,574 --> 00:12:31,095 - I mean, yeah, he liked to tell people it was his band, 244 00:12:31,175 --> 00:12:34,415 but we were always like, really? 245 00:12:34,495 --> 00:12:36,295 Really, it's your band? 246 00:12:36,375 --> 00:12:38,375 We thought it was our band really. 247 00:12:39,015 --> 00:12:41,576 - The future as a Rolling Stone is very uncertain. 248 00:12:42,456 --> 00:12:44,096 - [Narrator] It's Jagger and Richards 249 00:12:44,176 --> 00:12:47,056 who will soon give their friends Lennon and McCartney 250 00:12:47,136 --> 00:12:48,776 a run for their money. 251 00:12:48,856 --> 00:12:51,257 - If you listen to all popular songs 10 years ago 252 00:12:51,337 --> 00:12:54,297 there were very few of them actually mean anything 253 00:12:54,377 --> 00:12:57,377 or have any relation to what people are doing. 254 00:12:58,337 --> 00:12:59,697 The songs didn't have any relation 255 00:12:59,777 --> 00:13:02,098 to what people actually spend their lives doing, 256 00:13:02,178 --> 00:13:05,338 like getting up, washing, going to work, coming back 257 00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:08,018 and feeling very screwed up about certain things. 258 00:13:08,098 --> 00:13:11,059 - [Brian] Life for the working guy never changed. 259 00:13:11,139 --> 00:13:13,179 You still lived in a council house, 260 00:13:13,259 --> 00:13:14,939 you still had to pay your rent 261 00:13:15,019 --> 00:13:17,819 and then you hear dah-dah, dah-dah-dah. 262 00:13:19,179 --> 00:13:22,340 (gentle music) 263 00:13:22,420 --> 00:13:25,140 (crowd cheering) 264 00:13:26,580 --> 00:13:28,180 I remember the first time I heard it, 265 00:13:28,260 --> 00:13:31,221 and I just went "What the hell is that?" 266 00:13:32,341 --> 00:13:37,341 ♪ I can't get no satisfaction ♪ 267 00:13:38,301 --> 00:13:43,302 ♪ I can't get no satisfaction ♪ 268 00:13:43,822 --> 00:13:48,822 ♪ 'Cause I try, and I try, and I try, and I try ♪ 269 00:13:50,303 --> 00:13:55,303 ♪ I can't get no, I can't get no ♪ 270 00:13:56,343 --> 00:13:57,383 ♪ When I'm driving ♪ 271 00:13:57,463 --> 00:13:59,903 - [Mick] There's this pool and there's this motel 272 00:13:59,983 --> 00:14:02,944 in Clearwater, Florida, and I remember sitting with Keith 273 00:14:03,024 --> 00:14:05,504 and writing this song "Satisfaction." 274 00:14:05,584 --> 00:14:06,344 Andrew Oldham said, 275 00:14:06,424 --> 00:14:08,824 "This is like a number one single, this is great." 276 00:14:08,904 --> 00:14:11,025 Keith was like, "I don't really like it, 277 00:14:11,105 --> 00:14:13,025 it can't come out as a single." 278 00:14:13,105 --> 00:14:15,305 And it went to number one instantly. 279 00:14:15,385 --> 00:14:18,585 ♪ Oh, no, no, no ♪ 280 00:14:18,665 --> 00:14:20,826 ♪ Hey, hey, hey ♪ 281 00:14:20,906 --> 00:14:24,666 It was a big moment, it became your signature tune, 282 00:14:24,746 --> 00:14:29,306 your cri de coeur, your sexuality, your controversy. 283 00:14:29,386 --> 00:14:32,747 You need to have that song that everyone remembers. 284 00:14:32,827 --> 00:14:38,027 ♪ I can't get no satisfaction ♪ 285 00:14:38,107 --> 00:14:39,227 ♪ 'Cause I try, and I try ♪ 286 00:14:39,307 --> 00:14:41,188 - [Brian] It turned everybody on. 287 00:14:41,268 --> 00:14:43,468 It was just a brilliant song. 288 00:14:43,548 --> 00:14:46,388 Those boys were building a new road to the future. 289 00:14:47,508 --> 00:14:49,028 - [Mick] It makes a huge change 290 00:14:49,108 --> 00:14:52,829 and it also brings you into a much more confident era 291 00:14:52,909 --> 00:14:56,029 of writing, production, all this stuff. 292 00:14:56,869 --> 00:14:57,669 - [Andy] Wait a minute. 293 00:14:57,749 --> 00:15:00,990 There's at least 15 huge hit songs here, 294 00:15:01,070 --> 00:15:04,470 "Paint It, Black," "Ruby Tuesday," "Get Off of My Cloud," 295 00:15:04,550 --> 00:15:05,990 "Under My Thumb." 296 00:15:06,070 --> 00:15:10,030 Christ, most bands would be happy to get one of those. 297 00:15:10,111 --> 00:15:12,791 ♪ I can't get no ♪ 298 00:15:12,871 --> 00:15:15,631 ♪ I can't get no ♪ 299 00:15:19,711 --> 00:15:21,032 (crowd cheering) 300 00:15:21,112 --> 00:15:25,712 - [Mick] Behind it is the cynicism and reality 301 00:15:25,792 --> 00:15:29,232 of all the blues things that I'd been listening to 302 00:15:29,312 --> 00:15:31,633 since I was very young, very, very young, 303 00:15:31,713 --> 00:15:33,633 and there's a way of speaking 304 00:15:33,713 --> 00:15:36,313 and a way of talking about life, 305 00:15:36,393 --> 00:15:38,953 and a way of being sexually round about 306 00:15:39,033 --> 00:15:41,434 but sexually provocative. 307 00:15:42,634 --> 00:15:44,114 - [PP] Mick is sexy. 308 00:15:44,194 --> 00:15:46,274 And he knew he was sexy. 309 00:15:46,354 --> 00:15:47,074 Confident. 310 00:15:47,154 --> 00:15:49,914 And he was so cool. 311 00:15:49,994 --> 00:15:51,715 He's got those lips. 312 00:15:51,795 --> 00:15:53,955 And for me, I love to kiss, 313 00:15:54,035 --> 00:15:56,595 so I was a-kissing him, you know what I mean? 314 00:15:57,515 --> 00:16:00,396 - [Lulu] I do remember meeting him, I'm 15. 315 00:16:00,476 --> 00:16:03,836 I was slightly wary. 316 00:16:03,916 --> 00:16:05,916 And Mick went "Allo, Lulu." 317 00:16:05,996 --> 00:16:08,196 And I tried to string a few words together 318 00:16:08,276 --> 00:16:09,676 and I believe I spoke to him. 319 00:16:09,756 --> 00:16:11,997 I don't really know that I said very much 320 00:16:12,077 --> 00:16:16,237 or could even engage properly in a conversation. 321 00:16:16,317 --> 00:16:18,077 I was frightened, I was afraid of him. 322 00:16:18,157 --> 00:16:23,158 All that sexual image, it oozed, it was scary. 323 00:16:24,718 --> 00:16:26,078 (Lulu giggles) 324 00:16:26,158 --> 00:16:28,158 Exciting and scary. 325 00:16:29,038 --> 00:16:31,399 - [Don] For some reason Mick Jagger's got this thing 326 00:16:31,479 --> 00:16:36,319 whereas he can project that wild animal that's in all of us. 327 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:40,039 It's like yeah, that's who we are. 328 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,120 You celebrate the true nature of the human being 329 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,200 when you look at Mick Jagger. 330 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,120 (Little Richard shouting) 331 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,481 (crowd shouting) 332 00:16:50,561 --> 00:16:51,601 (Little Richard shouting) 333 00:16:51,681 --> 00:16:53,241 (crowd shouting) 334 00:16:53,321 --> 00:16:55,841 - [Mick] When it came to how to present myself on stage 335 00:16:55,921 --> 00:16:59,081 and everything, I really didn't know how to do that. 336 00:17:00,041 --> 00:17:01,322 - I wanna sing a song. 337 00:17:01,402 --> 00:17:02,602 I want everybody to raise your hand. 338 00:17:02,682 --> 00:17:04,402 Everybody raise your hand, come on. 339 00:17:04,482 --> 00:17:05,962 - [Mick] Little Richard literally taught me 340 00:17:06,042 --> 00:17:06,802 how to do this stuff. 341 00:17:06,882 --> 00:17:09,202 He would say oh, you've got to get them involved. 342 00:17:09,282 --> 00:17:11,003 You've got to get them standing up, 343 00:17:11,083 --> 00:17:12,603 if they're not standing up, telling them, 344 00:17:12,683 --> 00:17:15,003 you've got to tell them to stand up. 345 00:17:15,083 --> 00:17:16,523 - Everybody say we're all right. 346 00:17:16,603 --> 00:17:18,323 - [Crowd] We're all right. 347 00:17:18,403 --> 00:17:19,483 - And they would. 348 00:17:19,563 --> 00:17:24,004 ♪ You ♪ 349 00:17:24,084 --> 00:17:26,444 ♪ You ♪ 350 00:17:26,524 --> 00:17:28,524 ♪ You ♪ 351 00:17:30,004 --> 00:17:32,725 When I was on stage you feel it very strongly 352 00:17:32,805 --> 00:17:35,485 these people giving you this energy, 353 00:17:36,365 --> 00:17:38,645 and you don't really understand, you just feel it, 354 00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:40,526 you don't understand really what they're trying to say, 355 00:17:40,606 --> 00:17:42,926 what they want, what they need from you, 356 00:17:43,006 --> 00:17:44,806 what they need from life. 357 00:17:44,886 --> 00:17:47,006 But you just feel that they need something, 358 00:17:47,086 --> 00:17:49,326 and they're giving it to you. 359 00:17:50,167 --> 00:17:53,607 - He knows what he wants and you know when he knows 360 00:17:53,687 --> 00:17:56,367 'cause he starts to respond and he starts to sing 361 00:17:56,447 --> 00:17:57,447 and he starts to move. 362 00:17:57,527 --> 00:17:58,687 And vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom, vroom. 363 00:17:58,767 --> 00:18:01,968 And then he starts, yeah, really enjoy life. 364 00:18:02,808 --> 00:18:04,048 - [Patrick] I've heard Keith saying, 365 00:18:04,128 --> 00:18:05,728 on more than one occasion, 366 00:18:05,808 --> 00:18:08,168 about what a great performer Mick is. 367 00:18:08,248 --> 00:18:10,889 He can perform on a coffee table. 368 00:18:10,969 --> 00:18:13,329 He's really proud of his guy 369 00:18:13,409 --> 00:18:16,249 and he knows the responsibility that Mick takes on. 370 00:18:16,329 --> 00:18:18,129 It takes a lot of balls to stand up 371 00:18:18,209 --> 00:18:20,210 and command an audience of 100,000 people. 372 00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:25,050 - You're not the same person on stage 373 00:18:25,130 --> 00:18:27,610 as you are in the rest of the time. 374 00:18:27,690 --> 00:18:30,411 You have to be very, very, very egotistical. 375 00:18:31,731 --> 00:18:34,411 I mean you're acting, you're doing an act for them, 376 00:18:34,491 --> 00:18:36,491 it's not really you. 377 00:18:36,891 --> 00:18:39,371 - [Journalist] What do you set out to do in your act? 378 00:18:42,292 --> 00:18:44,292 - Entertain people. 379 00:18:45,612 --> 00:18:47,812 The most successful entertainers 380 00:18:47,892 --> 00:18:50,973 have always been the most egotistical ones. 381 00:18:51,053 --> 00:18:53,333 All that ego is got rid of on stage. 382 00:18:54,173 --> 00:18:55,133 - [Journalist] What person do you think you are 383 00:18:55,213 --> 00:18:57,213 off the stage? 384 00:18:57,613 --> 00:18:59,613 - About half as egotistical. 385 00:18:59,693 --> 00:19:01,934 (crowd cheering) 386 00:19:02,014 --> 00:19:04,854 (Mick vocalizing) 387 00:19:07,774 --> 00:19:10,175 - [Brian] I think Mick Jagger has this wonderful gift, 388 00:19:10,255 --> 00:19:14,815 he can make a huge stadium seem like a small room 389 00:19:14,895 --> 00:19:16,855 and make everybody feel involved. 390 00:19:16,935 --> 00:19:18,615 And that's the secret. 391 00:19:18,695 --> 00:19:22,656 ♪ Everywhere I hear the sound of marching ♪ 392 00:19:22,736 --> 00:19:26,416 ♪ Charging feet, boy ♪ 393 00:19:26,496 --> 00:19:28,736 ♪ 'Cause summer's here and the time is right ♪ 394 00:19:28,816 --> 00:19:32,137 - [Lars] He'll always find a way to make even the biggest 395 00:19:32,217 --> 00:19:34,337 of the shows as intimate as possible. 396 00:19:34,417 --> 00:19:38,057 And obviously Mick Jagger does it incredibly well. 397 00:19:38,137 --> 00:19:40,658 ♪ Except to sing for a rock and roll band ♪ 398 00:19:40,738 --> 00:19:43,418 ♪ 'Cause in sleepy London town ♪ 399 00:19:43,498 --> 00:19:46,898 ♪ There's just no place for a street fighting man ♪ 400 00:19:46,978 --> 00:19:50,499 - [Bernard] He works at it, he works hard at it, 401 00:19:50,579 --> 00:19:54,579 and he gets them hips going, and he gets them legs going. 402 00:19:54,659 --> 00:19:56,259 He's got his thing. 403 00:19:56,339 --> 00:19:58,379 He dances his arse off. 404 00:19:59,259 --> 00:20:00,820 It ain't the latest dance move 405 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:05,420 that everybody is trying to do, no, it's his dance, 406 00:20:05,500 --> 00:20:08,340 and he dances the shit outta his dance. 407 00:20:13,741 --> 00:20:16,621 ♪ Well, what can a poor boy do ♪ 408 00:20:16,701 --> 00:20:19,581 ♪ Except to sing for a rock and roll band ♪ 409 00:20:19,661 --> 00:20:22,422 ♪ 'Cause in sleepy London town ♪ 410 00:20:22,502 --> 00:20:25,622 ♪ There's just no place for a street fighting man no ♪ 411 00:20:25,702 --> 00:20:27,022 - [Narrator] And Mick is taught 412 00:20:27,102 --> 00:20:29,302 by some of the all-time greats. 413 00:20:30,303 --> 00:20:34,223 Many of whom share a stage with the Stones on tour. 414 00:20:34,303 --> 00:20:38,303 - [Tina] He was watching me, just watching every move. 415 00:20:38,383 --> 00:20:42,944 This white-faced person behind the speakers, 416 00:20:43,024 --> 00:20:45,904 just watching me while I was doing my thing. 417 00:20:46,944 --> 00:20:50,585 - [PP] Mick would always come backstage to the dressing-room 418 00:20:50,665 --> 00:20:54,905 and we would like show him moves and steps and things. 419 00:20:55,865 --> 00:20:56,865 - [Tina] It was okay, 420 00:20:56,945 --> 00:21:00,626 but I didn't think he was gonna amount to anything. 421 00:21:00,706 --> 00:21:01,586 Sorry, Mick. 422 00:21:01,666 --> 00:21:04,386 (Tina chuckles) 423 00:21:04,466 --> 00:21:07,266 ♪ Except to sing for a rock and roll band ♪ 424 00:21:07,346 --> 00:21:10,387 ♪ 'Cause in sleepy London town ♪ 425 00:21:10,467 --> 00:21:13,787 ♪ There's just no place for a street fighting man ♪ 426 00:21:13,867 --> 00:21:16,147 - [Chrissie] Really, in rock music it's about personality 427 00:21:16,227 --> 00:21:17,987 more than virtuosity. 428 00:21:18,067 --> 00:21:20,588 It's not what's best and it's not even what's good. 429 00:21:20,668 --> 00:21:22,908 If you want good go see a musical 430 00:21:22,988 --> 00:21:24,948 where they've all been trained to sing. 431 00:21:25,028 --> 00:21:26,508 I don't think people even think 432 00:21:26,588 --> 00:21:29,588 that Mick has a beautiful voice, it's just Mick Jagger. 433 00:21:32,069 --> 00:21:34,629 - [Lisa] I think he is a great dancer 434 00:21:34,709 --> 00:21:38,109 in the way that he expresses himself. 435 00:21:38,189 --> 00:21:43,190 It's like when you see a young child learning how to dance 436 00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:47,870 but they do it with so much heart you can't help 437 00:21:47,950 --> 00:21:49,750 but embrace it. 438 00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:52,551 (Lisa giggles) 439 00:21:52,631 --> 00:21:57,191 The way that he dances, it is total belief 440 00:21:57,271 --> 00:22:00,832 and freedom of expression and individuality. 441 00:22:00,912 --> 00:22:03,312 (rock music) 442 00:22:18,913 --> 00:22:21,674 (crowd cheering) 443 00:22:25,034 --> 00:22:27,954 - [Narrator] The transformation is complete. 444 00:22:28,034 --> 00:22:31,155 This is Mick Jagger, the charismatic front man. 445 00:22:31,995 --> 00:22:34,755 (crowd cheering) 446 00:22:35,835 --> 00:22:37,035 - [Reporter] And here's Michael wearing a pair 447 00:22:37,115 --> 00:22:39,755 of ordinary gym shoes which you would wear 448 00:22:39,835 --> 00:22:41,996 when you were playing tennis. 449 00:22:42,076 --> 00:22:44,276 - [Narrator] And this is Mike Jagger 450 00:22:44,356 --> 00:22:46,356 just a few years earlier. 451 00:22:47,196 --> 00:22:50,837 A swotty, sporty schoolboy with academic ambitions 452 00:22:51,797 --> 00:22:54,317 and his sight set on higher things. 453 00:22:56,237 --> 00:22:58,677 - I'm working hard at my school work. 454 00:22:58,757 --> 00:23:00,478 I'm quite academic. 455 00:23:00,558 --> 00:23:04,638 I wanna go to university so I can't just fuck about. 456 00:23:04,718 --> 00:23:05,798 - You spent I think two years 457 00:23:05,878 --> 00:23:07,958 at the London School of Economics. 458 00:23:08,038 --> 00:23:09,198 - Yes, I've been trying 459 00:23:09,278 --> 00:23:11,359 to unlearn everything I learnt ever since, 460 00:23:11,439 --> 00:23:14,159 but I think I've almost succeeded. 461 00:23:14,239 --> 00:23:16,719 - [Journalist] Would you ever thing of going back there? 462 00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:18,719 - No, no, I don't think so. 463 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:20,039 I didn't like it there very much. 464 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:20,880 - [Journalist] What didn't you like 465 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080 about that academic learning? 466 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,000 - I wasn't given any freedom. 467 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,121 - [Narrator] But Mick is about to discover 468 00:23:30,201 --> 00:23:34,041 that freedom can have consequences he can't always control. 469 00:23:34,961 --> 00:23:36,761 He's on his way to Redlands, 470 00:23:36,841 --> 00:23:40,722 the new country residence of Mr. Keith Richards. 471 00:23:40,802 --> 00:23:41,562 (gentle music) 472 00:23:41,642 --> 00:23:44,362 - [Mick] "Dear Mick, do come to a lovely party 473 00:23:44,442 --> 00:23:46,122 in Redlands, acid provided." 474 00:23:46,202 --> 00:23:47,482 I don't think that was on the invitation, 475 00:23:47,562 --> 00:23:49,082 but I can't remember. 476 00:23:49,162 --> 00:23:52,043 Keith might remember because he had to buy the acid. 477 00:23:52,123 --> 00:23:54,363 He'd just got Redlands and he'd done it up 478 00:23:54,443 --> 00:23:55,803 and he wanted everyone to see it, 479 00:23:55,883 --> 00:23:57,203 like as you do you know what I mean, 480 00:23:57,283 --> 00:23:59,283 as he'd done up a nice house in the country 481 00:23:59,363 --> 00:24:02,284 and you want everyone to come for a weekend. 482 00:24:02,364 --> 00:24:05,644 It was quite a Bohemian weekend really. 483 00:24:05,724 --> 00:24:07,244 We went for a nice walk. 484 00:24:07,324 --> 00:24:09,484 (upbeat music) 485 00:24:09,564 --> 00:24:12,925 ♪ She comes in colors everywhere ♪ 486 00:24:13,005 --> 00:24:16,565 And there was a lot of drugs there, LSD, hash. 487 00:24:16,645 --> 00:24:18,525 We were just having fun. 488 00:24:18,605 --> 00:24:20,446 And then the fuzz bust him, man. 489 00:24:20,526 --> 00:24:23,166 (Mick giggles) 490 00:24:25,326 --> 00:24:27,926 When you're on acid being busted it's very odd. 491 00:24:28,006 --> 00:24:30,727 It's not fun being busted at all, 492 00:24:30,807 --> 00:24:33,727 but being busted on acid is really weird. 493 00:24:33,807 --> 00:24:35,687 - [Keith] They were breaking in my house. 494 00:24:35,767 --> 00:24:37,087 - [Mick] The police were against you. 495 00:24:37,167 --> 00:24:39,287 - [Keith] Unnecessary authority. 496 00:24:39,367 --> 00:24:41,288 - [Mick] The Establishment was against you. 497 00:24:41,368 --> 00:24:43,808 - [Keith] I always felt that they were picking on me. 498 00:24:43,888 --> 00:24:45,248 - [Mick] Man, they're all against us, 499 00:24:45,328 --> 00:24:47,048 they wanna shut us down. 500 00:24:47,128 --> 00:24:49,528 - [Keith] But of course that only reinforced my wariness 501 00:24:49,608 --> 00:24:51,209 of authority. 502 00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:54,289 - [Mick] What they're trying to do is close the Stones down. 503 00:24:54,369 --> 00:24:55,449 (Mick giggles) 504 00:24:55,529 --> 00:24:57,529 - I still carry a chip. 505 00:24:58,729 --> 00:25:01,050 Yeah, I could use a joint right now. 506 00:25:01,130 --> 00:25:03,690 (Keith laughs) 507 00:25:05,290 --> 00:25:07,370 - [Narrator] But it's no laughing matter. 508 00:25:07,450 --> 00:25:10,811 The arrests steered the Stones into a storm of controversy. 509 00:25:12,331 --> 00:25:13,171 - [Brian] Drugs raid. 510 00:25:13,251 --> 00:25:14,531 Jagger arrest. 511 00:25:14,611 --> 00:25:17,051 Keith Richards being arrested. 512 00:25:17,131 --> 00:25:22,092 It was all adding to this whole idea of this rebel outfit. 513 00:25:22,172 --> 00:25:23,532 - [Mick] The first reaction is oh, my God, 514 00:25:23,612 --> 00:25:26,052 what am I gonna do and what does my mum think. 515 00:25:26,132 --> 00:25:29,052 Because they say that you can go to prison for five years. 516 00:25:29,132 --> 00:25:30,733 You have now been derailed 517 00:25:30,813 --> 00:25:35,253 from your amusing life of a pop singer. 518 00:25:36,213 --> 00:25:39,853 It takes the emphasis off your career and achievements. 519 00:25:39,933 --> 00:25:41,974 It makes you a group of drug addicts 520 00:25:42,054 --> 00:25:44,254 rather than a talented group of musicians. 521 00:25:45,694 --> 00:25:48,054 - [Narrator] But the band have always risked falling victim 522 00:25:48,134 --> 00:25:50,135 to their bad boy image, 523 00:25:50,575 --> 00:25:53,975 the invention of their manager Andrew Loog Oldham. 524 00:25:55,535 --> 00:25:58,135 - I think that Andrew very much liked 525 00:25:58,215 --> 00:26:00,136 to contrive the danger, 526 00:26:00,216 --> 00:26:04,696 'cause he saw that very cleverly as a foil for the Beatles. 527 00:26:04,776 --> 00:26:06,936 - They got cleaned up by their manager 528 00:26:07,016 --> 00:26:10,737 and to make them more palatable to the public, 529 00:26:10,817 --> 00:26:13,617 otherwise they were exactly the same as we were, 530 00:26:13,697 --> 00:26:15,697 filthy swine. 531 00:26:16,057 --> 00:26:17,177 (Keith giggles) 532 00:26:17,257 --> 00:26:20,338 - But Brian Epstein didn't wanna sell them as such. 533 00:26:20,418 --> 00:26:24,138 He sold them as these lovable scamps and funny 534 00:26:24,218 --> 00:26:27,818 and could be sarcastic but, nevertheless, lovable. 535 00:26:27,898 --> 00:26:32,899 So Andrew wanted us to be more nasty and more dirty, 536 00:26:34,779 --> 00:26:38,539 more of an edge, which was a very good sell 537 00:26:38,619 --> 00:26:40,940 and it wasn't difficult for us to do 538 00:26:41,020 --> 00:26:43,180 because when you're that age it's quite easy 539 00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:44,220 to have that edge. 540 00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:46,460 (Mick giggles) 541 00:26:46,540 --> 00:26:47,380 - [Reporter] The gentlemen of the press 542 00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:48,780 have been kept waiting. 543 00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:51,741 Mick Jagger is half an hour late for his press conference. 544 00:26:51,821 --> 00:26:53,541 His fine contempt for convention 545 00:26:53,621 --> 00:26:55,221 seems to irritate journalists. 546 00:26:55,301 --> 00:26:56,181 - [Reporter] So you think he'll be coming 547 00:26:56,261 --> 00:26:57,861 into a hostile audience? 548 00:26:57,941 --> 00:26:59,301 - I would imagine so, yes. 549 00:26:59,381 --> 00:27:02,142 - Journalists would be very patronizing. 550 00:27:04,902 --> 00:27:05,982 Morning! 551 00:27:06,062 --> 00:27:06,822 - [Journalist] Good morning. 552 00:27:06,902 --> 00:27:08,102 - [Journalist] Good afternoon. 553 00:27:08,182 --> 00:27:10,062 - [Reporter] What do you think of him? 554 00:27:10,143 --> 00:27:12,263 - Oh, he does a damn good job of what he wants to do, 555 00:27:12,343 --> 00:27:14,903 which is to be a paid exhibitionist 556 00:27:14,983 --> 00:27:15,743 and he makes a lot of money 557 00:27:15,823 --> 00:27:17,623 and laughs all the way to the bank as Liberace said. 558 00:27:17,703 --> 00:27:19,103 - [Journalist] Do you like press conferences? 559 00:27:19,183 --> 00:27:20,103 - No. 560 00:27:20,184 --> 00:27:20,944 (all giggle) 561 00:27:21,024 --> 00:27:22,024 - [Journalist] And why not? 562 00:27:22,104 --> 00:27:25,624 - Oh, I really like to keep myself to myself. 563 00:27:25,704 --> 00:27:27,744 I always remember one point 564 00:27:27,824 --> 00:27:29,664 where Brian used the word 565 00:27:29,744 --> 00:27:33,025 in a stupid press conference, esoteric. 566 00:27:33,105 --> 00:27:35,825 "It's a bit esoteric really." 567 00:27:35,905 --> 00:27:38,425 And he'd use the word eclectic quite a lot as well. 568 00:27:38,505 --> 00:27:40,105 They were so shocked. 569 00:27:40,186 --> 00:27:41,786 And we would obviously tease them 570 00:27:41,866 --> 00:27:43,746 and behave like yobs as well. 571 00:27:43,826 --> 00:27:46,466 So they knew what to expect. 572 00:27:46,546 --> 00:27:48,546 If you wanna follow up in TV journalism 573 00:27:48,626 --> 00:27:50,827 what rubbish they dish up in the press 574 00:27:50,907 --> 00:27:52,387 then you're pretty low. 575 00:27:52,467 --> 00:27:53,587 (journalist speaking indistinctly) 576 00:27:53,667 --> 00:27:55,547 So watch out boy. 577 00:27:55,627 --> 00:27:59,547 One half of you is the yob and the other half is saying 578 00:27:59,627 --> 00:28:01,748 well, yeah, we also know what we're talking about. 579 00:28:01,828 --> 00:28:03,548 - [Journalist] Mick Jagger needs the reporters 580 00:28:03,628 --> 00:28:05,308 and the reporters need him. 581 00:28:05,388 --> 00:28:07,708 A sort of love/hate relationship. 582 00:28:07,788 --> 00:28:11,349 - The press can be savage so you have to be very careful. 583 00:28:13,949 --> 00:28:15,429 - [Narrator] In fact, the News of the World 584 00:28:15,509 --> 00:28:18,269 helped them get busted in the first place. 585 00:28:18,349 --> 00:28:20,029 But in a famous editorial, 586 00:28:20,109 --> 00:28:22,510 that bastion of the Establishment, The Times, 587 00:28:22,590 --> 00:28:24,590 actually sticks up for them. 588 00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:26,870 Arguing that artistes should not be crushed 589 00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:30,151 by the law and the law listens. 590 00:28:30,231 --> 00:28:31,711 - [Mick] There was obviously a collusion 591 00:28:31,791 --> 00:28:34,191 between the police and the newspaper, 592 00:28:34,271 --> 00:28:36,511 but I mean that's not questioned. 593 00:28:36,591 --> 00:28:39,991 But I was freed from jail by the Establishment. 594 00:28:40,071 --> 00:28:41,672 - [Reporter] It's years since such crowds gathered 595 00:28:41,752 --> 00:28:43,312 to await an appeal verdict. 596 00:28:43,392 --> 00:28:44,912 But this was a Rolling Stones case 597 00:28:44,992 --> 00:28:46,752 with the fans out in force. 598 00:28:46,832 --> 00:28:48,992 When Mick Jagger was conditionally discharged 599 00:28:49,072 --> 00:28:51,073 and Keith Richards sentenced twice, 600 00:28:51,153 --> 00:28:52,473 the pop idols drove off, 601 00:28:52,553 --> 00:28:54,713 the shadow of jail no longer over them. 602 00:28:57,233 --> 00:28:57,953 - [Reporter] Earlier today, 603 00:28:58,033 --> 00:28:59,793 Mick Jagger talked briefly to a press conference 604 00:28:59,873 --> 00:29:01,874 after the Lord Chief Justice Lord Parker 605 00:29:01,954 --> 00:29:03,714 had quashed his three-month prison sentence 606 00:29:03,794 --> 00:29:05,354 for possessing amphetamine tablets. 607 00:29:05,434 --> 00:29:08,594 - [Mick] It was a complete waste of everybody's time. 608 00:29:08,674 --> 00:29:10,675 Bollocks basically. 609 00:29:13,595 --> 00:29:15,515 - [Reporter] Publicity since the case has shown up a split 610 00:29:15,595 --> 00:29:17,555 between the society which resents the anarchy 611 00:29:17,635 --> 00:29:19,035 of people like the Stones 612 00:29:19,115 --> 00:29:21,996 and that which favors greater individual freedom. 613 00:29:22,076 --> 00:29:26,196 - [Mick] It had ramifications far beyond just a drug bust. 614 00:29:26,276 --> 00:29:28,476 It had a lot of social implications. 615 00:29:28,556 --> 00:29:30,797 What's wrong with people smoking drugs. 616 00:29:30,877 --> 00:29:32,917 This is when this first came up. 617 00:29:32,997 --> 00:29:34,997 This became a big discussion. 618 00:29:36,517 --> 00:29:40,077 - [Journalist] You're often taken as a symbol of rebellion. 619 00:29:40,158 --> 00:29:44,198 Do you think that the society that you live in 620 00:29:44,278 --> 00:29:45,718 is one you ought to rebel against 621 00:29:45,798 --> 00:29:47,678 or do you think you're rebelling against it? 622 00:29:47,758 --> 00:29:49,838 - Yes, definitely rebelling against it. 623 00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:52,959 (upbeat music) 624 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:58,039 ♪ I was born in a cross-fire hurricane ♪ 625 00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:04,800 ♪ And I howled at my ma in the driving rain ♪ 626 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,921 ♪ But it's all right now, in fact, it's a gas ♪ 627 00:30:13,841 --> 00:30:18,841 ♪ But it's all right, I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash ♪ 628 00:30:19,601 --> 00:30:21,162 ♪ It's a gas, gas, gas ♪ 629 00:30:21,242 --> 00:30:22,722 Kids are looking for something else 630 00:30:22,802 --> 00:30:25,282 or some different moral value. 631 00:30:25,362 --> 00:30:27,882 The whole basis of society and values 632 00:30:27,962 --> 00:30:31,243 which were accepted could be changed, 633 00:30:31,323 --> 00:30:34,843 but it's up to them to carry on those ideals that they have 634 00:30:34,923 --> 00:30:38,363 instead of just falling into the same old routine 635 00:30:38,443 --> 00:30:40,604 that their parents have fallen into. 636 00:30:43,364 --> 00:30:48,364 ♪ But it's all right now, in fact, it's a gas ♪ 637 00:30:50,205 --> 00:30:55,205 ♪ But it's all right, I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash ♪ 638 00:30:55,765 --> 00:30:57,525 ♪ It's a gas, gas, gas ♪ 639 00:30:57,605 --> 00:30:59,605 The violence of the Vietnam War 640 00:30:59,685 --> 00:31:02,446 is what is causing a blow-back 641 00:31:02,526 --> 00:31:05,086 of the violence in the street, right, 642 00:31:05,166 --> 00:31:09,606 because the violence in the street is a direct consequence 643 00:31:09,686 --> 00:31:12,847 of the Vietnam War, and that gives 644 00:31:12,927 --> 00:31:15,167 or causes a right to violence 645 00:31:15,247 --> 00:31:19,007 because the State is perpetrating the violence 646 00:31:19,087 --> 00:31:21,088 on other people big time. 647 00:31:21,928 --> 00:31:24,488 (gentle music) 648 00:31:26,168 --> 00:31:26,928 (whistle blows) 649 00:31:27,008 --> 00:31:28,248 - [Reporter] At Grosvenor Square police waited 650 00:31:28,328 --> 00:31:29,688 for the marchers to arrive. 651 00:31:29,768 --> 00:31:31,809 They'd been told there'd be no violence. 652 00:31:31,889 --> 00:31:33,889 Sincerely, they hope so. 653 00:31:35,049 --> 00:31:37,329 - [Narrator] 1968 was a turbulent year. 654 00:31:40,049 --> 00:31:42,050 And Mick is in the thick of it. 655 00:31:43,410 --> 00:31:44,370 - If you wanna demonstrate, 656 00:31:44,450 --> 00:31:46,290 we have to meet them on their own ground. 657 00:31:46,370 --> 00:31:49,330 If they wanna use horses, we'll have 10,000 people on horses 658 00:31:49,410 --> 00:31:50,611 and see what they do. 659 00:31:50,691 --> 00:31:51,451 That I love. 660 00:31:51,531 --> 00:31:53,571 And that's what I thought when I was there, 661 00:31:53,651 --> 00:31:55,811 that's what it should have been. 662 00:31:55,891 --> 00:31:58,691 I couldn't believe how vicious the police were, 663 00:31:58,771 --> 00:32:00,572 that was the scaring thing. 664 00:32:00,652 --> 00:32:03,332 The mounted police just chasing at people 665 00:32:03,412 --> 00:32:06,812 with their horses in the middle of Grosvenor Square. 666 00:32:06,892 --> 00:32:08,172 Really scary. 667 00:32:08,252 --> 00:32:10,493 (crowd shouting) 668 00:32:10,573 --> 00:32:14,413 There was nothing going on violent from the crowd at all. 669 00:32:14,493 --> 00:32:16,093 It was pretty peaceful. 670 00:32:16,173 --> 00:32:18,293 And the police made it not peaceful. 671 00:32:18,373 --> 00:32:19,973 That's what I remember. 672 00:32:20,053 --> 00:32:22,614 - [Narrator] As 1968 thunders on, 673 00:32:22,694 --> 00:32:26,894 Mick writes a song that peers into the heart of darkness. 674 00:32:29,654 --> 00:32:32,255 (gentle music) 675 00:32:36,615 --> 00:32:39,935 ♪ Please let me introduce myself ♪ 676 00:32:40,015 --> 00:32:45,016 ♪ I'm a man of wealth and taste ♪ 677 00:32:45,656 --> 00:32:49,896 ♪ I've been around for many a long, long years ♪ 678 00:32:49,976 --> 00:32:54,817 ♪ Stole million man's soul and faith ♪ 679 00:32:54,897 --> 00:32:59,017 ♪ And I was 'round when Jesus Christ ♪ 680 00:32:59,097 --> 00:33:01,418 ♪ Had his moment of doubt and pain ♪ 681 00:33:01,498 --> 00:33:02,578 - [Mick] When you involve religion, 682 00:33:02,658 --> 00:33:05,098 it always gives it an extra frisson. 683 00:33:05,178 --> 00:33:07,578 So it's obviously got religious overtones. 684 00:33:08,818 --> 00:33:10,899 When I wrote it I wasn't thinking 685 00:33:10,979 --> 00:33:13,219 of how provocative that was. 686 00:33:13,299 --> 00:33:14,979 - [Journalist] I had read all these things about you 687 00:33:15,059 --> 00:33:17,579 and some people call you the devil incarnate, 688 00:33:17,659 --> 00:33:19,739 I don't know who started that. 689 00:33:19,819 --> 00:33:21,820 British journalists and all. - Nor do I. 690 00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:23,100 (gentle music) 691 00:33:23,180 --> 00:33:25,020 ♪ Pleased to meet you ♪ 692 00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:30,100 ♪ Hope you guess my name ♪ 693 00:33:30,741 --> 00:33:33,061 ♪ But what's puzzling you ♪ 694 00:33:33,141 --> 00:33:36,701 ♪ Is the nature of my game ♪ 695 00:33:40,342 --> 00:33:41,062 - [Journalist] You're not this image 696 00:33:41,142 --> 00:33:42,222 that people have of Mick Jagger. 697 00:33:42,302 --> 00:33:43,542 - [Mick] I don't know what that is. 698 00:33:43,622 --> 00:33:45,342 - [Journalist] Well, it's a sort of sexy, evil, 699 00:33:45,422 --> 00:33:48,262 satanic, nice guy. - It can be nice/nasty, 700 00:33:48,342 --> 00:33:52,343 masculine/feminine, all those things. 701 00:33:52,423 --> 00:33:54,423 And everyone is all those things. 702 00:33:55,783 --> 00:33:57,783 Try make it a bit more light. 703 00:33:58,263 --> 00:34:00,544 (Mick speaking indistinctly) 704 00:34:00,624 --> 00:34:02,304 (gentle music) 705 00:34:02,384 --> 00:34:05,704 - [Narrator] Reluctantly, Mick becomes a poster boy 706 00:34:05,784 --> 00:34:10,785 for a troubled era, with trouble followed by tragedy. 707 00:34:12,545 --> 00:34:15,145 (gentle music) 708 00:34:29,146 --> 00:34:32,067 (crowd chattering) 709 00:34:34,427 --> 00:34:38,467 - Okay, now listen, I really don't know how to do this sorta thing 710 00:34:38,547 --> 00:34:43,468 but I'm gonna try, just say a few words what I think I feel 711 00:34:43,548 --> 00:34:45,868 about Brian and I'm sure you do, 712 00:34:45,948 --> 00:34:49,668 and what we feel about him just going 713 00:34:49,748 --> 00:34:51,989 when we didn't expect him to. 714 00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:54,989 Okay, are you gonna be quiet or not? 715 00:34:57,229 --> 00:34:59,149 "Peace, peace. 716 00:34:59,229 --> 00:35:02,750 He is not dead, he does not sleep. 717 00:35:02,830 --> 00:35:05,550 He has awakened from the dreams of life. 718 00:35:05,630 --> 00:35:09,350 It's we that are lost in stormy visions 719 00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:12,751 and keep with phantoms and unprofitable strife. 720 00:35:13,951 --> 00:35:17,471 And in a mad trance we strike with a spirit's knife." 721 00:35:17,551 --> 00:35:21,032 (crowd clapping) 722 00:35:21,112 --> 00:35:23,112 All right. 723 00:35:23,672 --> 00:35:25,992 - [Narrator] Six months after Brian's death, 724 00:35:26,072 --> 00:35:29,152 another tragedy as a chaotic free concert 725 00:35:29,232 --> 00:35:32,273 in America ends in murder. 726 00:35:34,633 --> 00:35:36,793 - Okay, it's definitely on. 727 00:35:36,873 --> 00:35:39,273 They've decided now they're going to hold the concert 728 00:35:39,353 --> 00:35:41,354 at Altamont Speedway. 729 00:35:45,314 --> 00:35:47,594 - So in the '60s, I was only interested 730 00:35:47,674 --> 00:35:51,795 in being a good musician and a good performer and so on, 731 00:35:51,875 --> 00:35:55,395 I let other people do the control part of it, 732 00:35:55,475 --> 00:35:57,475 which was a mistake. 733 00:36:00,436 --> 00:36:01,996 Our tour manager said we're gonna do it 734 00:36:02,076 --> 00:36:04,076 in this place called Altamont, which I'd never heard of, 735 00:36:04,156 --> 00:36:05,516 I don't think anyone else had. 736 00:36:05,596 --> 00:36:08,076 He said it's all gonna be fine, it's San Francisco, 737 00:36:08,156 --> 00:36:11,357 you don't have to worry about it, it's peace and love. 738 00:36:11,437 --> 00:36:13,837 When we got there it was the antithesis of peace and love, 739 00:36:13,917 --> 00:36:16,557 it was a disastrous mess. 740 00:36:16,637 --> 00:36:19,877 The Hells Angels were the people doing the security. 741 00:36:19,957 --> 00:36:23,998 You had no control over anything, and we were scared. 742 00:36:24,078 --> 00:36:26,678 (crowd cheering) 743 00:36:26,758 --> 00:36:28,478 We felt something bad was going on, 744 00:36:28,558 --> 00:36:30,078 and these people were crazy, 745 00:36:30,158 --> 00:36:33,239 and they were like standing next to you. 746 00:36:33,319 --> 00:36:37,119 And oh, it was scary, the whole thing was out of control. 747 00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,759 (gentle music) 748 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,960 - [Reporter] Altamont, California. 749 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,601 Four people in the audience of a free 750 00:36:50,681 --> 00:36:54,881 and unscheduled concert died, one of them from stab wounds. 751 00:36:56,001 --> 00:36:56,801 - [Mick] All we could do was get out 752 00:36:56,881 --> 00:36:59,681 without getting in trouble ourselves. 753 00:36:59,761 --> 00:37:01,762 It was just a nightmare. 754 00:37:02,922 --> 00:37:05,962 - [Narrator] Life as a Rolling Stone is spiraling 755 00:37:06,042 --> 00:37:08,562 into chaos. 756 00:37:12,563 --> 00:37:15,083 - After that period, the '60s period, 757 00:37:15,163 --> 00:37:16,883 then we had to take more control. 758 00:37:16,963 --> 00:37:21,084 So that's when I had to take that role on a bit more, 759 00:37:21,164 --> 00:37:23,084 not that I particularly wanted to. 760 00:37:23,164 --> 00:37:26,444 The ideal is, in this situation, is to have someone 761 00:37:26,524 --> 00:37:28,564 that will do all that for you, 762 00:37:28,644 --> 00:37:31,125 but I never really found anyone like that. 763 00:37:31,205 --> 00:37:33,245 - [Journalist] Are you any more satisfied now? 764 00:37:33,325 --> 00:37:36,085 (crowd laughing) 765 00:37:37,165 --> 00:37:41,006 - Do you mean sexually or philosophically? 766 00:37:41,086 --> 00:37:42,486 - [Journalist] Both. 767 00:37:42,566 --> 00:37:45,846 - Yeah, we're more satisfied now sexually. 768 00:37:45,926 --> 00:37:48,686 (crowd giggling) 769 00:37:50,447 --> 00:37:52,527 Financially dissatisfied. 770 00:37:53,487 --> 00:37:55,527 - [Narrator] The Rolling Stones are about to find out 771 00:37:55,607 --> 00:37:59,127 that their taxes have not been paid for years 772 00:37:59,207 --> 00:38:01,048 and they're not as rich as they 773 00:38:01,128 --> 00:38:03,408 or the British Government thinks they are. 774 00:38:04,848 --> 00:38:06,448 - [Mick] There was nobody actively managing 775 00:38:06,528 --> 00:38:08,408 the Rolling Stones' money. 776 00:38:08,488 --> 00:38:11,129 The Rolling Stones had no money in the bank. 777 00:38:12,249 --> 00:38:14,849 And so now I had to try and put my head down 778 00:38:14,929 --> 00:38:17,049 and try and solve this puzzle. 779 00:38:17,129 --> 00:38:21,730 To create income, we decided that the best way of doing that 780 00:38:21,810 --> 00:38:25,450 was to leave the UK because we'd have to pay less tax. 781 00:38:25,530 --> 00:38:29,090 At the time it looked as if it was a total curse. 782 00:38:29,170 --> 00:38:30,931 By the time we dealt with it, 783 00:38:31,011 --> 00:38:33,331 I think that it was a blessing. 784 00:38:33,411 --> 00:38:36,611 Quite honestly, we'd grown too big for England's boots. 785 00:38:37,731 --> 00:38:39,291 Keith always says that he was chased out 786 00:38:39,371 --> 00:38:41,132 of England by the cops. 787 00:38:41,212 --> 00:38:43,172 He may believe that, but the real reason 788 00:38:43,252 --> 00:38:45,252 that the band left was money. 789 00:38:47,812 --> 00:38:48,972 - [Narrator] Mick is forced 790 00:38:49,052 --> 00:38:52,893 to take on the main responsibility for the band's fortunes. 791 00:38:54,813 --> 00:38:59,253 - The band would certainly have their say in everything. 792 00:38:59,333 --> 00:39:02,494 And if they weren't particularly interested in having a say 793 00:39:02,574 --> 00:39:04,894 about certain details then I would have my say 794 00:39:04,974 --> 00:39:07,014 and I would tell them this is what we're gonna do. 795 00:39:07,094 --> 00:39:07,854 Do you agree? 796 00:39:07,934 --> 00:39:09,934 And they would say yes. 797 00:39:10,535 --> 00:39:12,535 That way now. 798 00:39:12,855 --> 00:39:15,095 - [Chrissie] The word democracy is used 799 00:39:15,175 --> 00:39:17,575 to keep everyone pacified, 800 00:39:17,655 --> 00:39:19,575 but you really have to have a strong leader 801 00:39:19,655 --> 00:39:21,136 in any organization. 802 00:39:21,216 --> 00:39:22,536 You have to trust someone, 803 00:39:22,616 --> 00:39:25,296 trust that they know better than you do. 804 00:39:25,376 --> 00:39:26,936 Mick's not gonna let anything go wrong 805 00:39:27,016 --> 00:39:28,536 'cause he's in control. 806 00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:30,457 - [Chip] He was armed with the playbook 807 00:39:30,537 --> 00:39:32,177 of the London School of Economics 808 00:39:32,257 --> 00:39:35,857 and my evidence he was well armed. 809 00:39:36,897 --> 00:39:41,018 - [Joyce] I think he brings rigor, discipline, 810 00:39:41,098 --> 00:39:44,498 a 360 vision on everything. 811 00:39:44,578 --> 00:39:48,938 He's across all the details, he tests every proposition 812 00:39:50,138 --> 00:39:51,659 and to interact with him, 813 00:39:51,739 --> 00:39:53,179 you've got to stay at the top of your game, 814 00:39:53,259 --> 00:39:55,259 you've got to be in the A-stream really 815 00:39:55,339 --> 00:39:57,339 to try and keep up with him. 816 00:39:57,419 --> 00:39:59,299 - Someone has to be the person that says look, 817 00:39:59,379 --> 00:40:00,460 this what we really should be doing. 818 00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:01,580 Now, people can disagree with you 819 00:40:01,660 --> 00:40:03,700 and say we're not doing that 820 00:40:03,780 --> 00:40:07,420 or we wanna do something different. 821 00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:10,140 But yeah, I don't mind being in control 822 00:40:10,221 --> 00:40:12,821 of certain situations that I feel that I'm confident 823 00:40:12,901 --> 00:40:14,901 that I know what I'm talking about. 824 00:40:16,101 --> 00:40:20,141 - [Narrator] Step one for Stones 2.0 is a brand new deal 825 00:40:20,222 --> 00:40:23,222 brokered by Mick with Atlantic Records agreeing 826 00:40:23,302 --> 00:40:25,662 to warehouse their own label. 827 00:40:25,742 --> 00:40:28,822 The band is about to become a brand. 828 00:40:32,303 --> 00:40:35,183 - We were doing the "Sticky Fingers" cover. 829 00:40:35,263 --> 00:40:39,023 I don't know why I thought it should have a logo. 830 00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:43,824 - [Chess] I remember stopping at a Shell Oil gas station 831 00:40:43,904 --> 00:40:47,624 and a big picture of a yellow shell, no letters. 832 00:40:47,704 --> 00:40:50,745 Wow, everyone knows it's Shell. 833 00:40:50,825 --> 00:40:53,505 We need a logo that stands by itself. 834 00:40:53,585 --> 00:40:55,905 - And so I think I'd gone to John Pasche 835 00:40:55,985 --> 00:40:59,625 and said let's try and get some funky idea. 836 00:40:59,705 --> 00:41:01,106 And I gave him this idea. 837 00:41:01,186 --> 00:41:03,386 - [John] I was at the Royal College of Art 838 00:41:03,466 --> 00:41:05,266 studying graphic design. 839 00:41:05,346 --> 00:41:09,706 The college got a call from the Stones' office asking 840 00:41:09,786 --> 00:41:12,907 for them to put forward a student to come 841 00:41:12,987 --> 00:41:14,587 and see Mick Jagger. 842 00:41:14,667 --> 00:41:15,707 What a break. 843 00:41:15,787 --> 00:41:17,147 I think a lot of people believe 844 00:41:17,227 --> 00:41:21,788 that the lips are based on Mick, but that's not really true. 845 00:41:21,868 --> 00:41:23,388 - [Mick] I gave him this idea 846 00:41:23,468 --> 00:41:26,788 of this disembodied tongue of Kali, 847 00:41:26,868 --> 00:41:28,748 and so then he modernized that. 848 00:41:28,828 --> 00:41:32,189 - [John] I saw it as maybe a symbol of protest, 849 00:41:32,269 --> 00:41:33,589 of anti-Establishment. 850 00:41:33,669 --> 00:41:36,669 It was like kids sticking their tongue out. 851 00:41:36,749 --> 00:41:39,629 It had to work as a stand-alone symbol 852 00:41:39,709 --> 00:41:42,310 if you like for the band, which was unusual. 853 00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:45,150 I mean there were brandings for companies and so on, 854 00:41:45,230 --> 00:41:49,630 but not so much in the rock and roll world really. 855 00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:53,151 - It related to the band, it had a connection. 856 00:41:53,231 --> 00:41:57,631 Color, fuck you, funkiness, originality. 857 00:41:57,711 --> 00:41:59,631 And so that's why it stuck I think. 858 00:41:59,711 --> 00:42:02,392 - [Tommy] I think that tongue is as important 859 00:42:02,472 --> 00:42:05,072 as any fashion logo in the world, 860 00:42:05,152 --> 00:42:09,512 and probably resonates in every country, every city, 861 00:42:09,592 --> 00:42:11,833 with people knowing exactly what it is. 862 00:42:11,913 --> 00:42:15,433 - [John] It's a logo that's really gone round the world now. 863 00:42:17,473 --> 00:42:19,313 - It's a Rolling Stones weekend on Radio 1 864 00:42:19,393 --> 00:42:22,194 and their record has gone up seven places to number seven 865 00:42:22,274 --> 00:42:25,634 in the chart this week, the Stones "Fool To Cry." 866 00:42:25,714 --> 00:42:28,274 (gentle music) 867 00:42:29,994 --> 00:42:31,155 - [Narrator] But Mick Jagger is more 868 00:42:31,235 --> 00:42:35,235 than just a brand manager, he's a band member 869 00:42:35,315 --> 00:42:38,875 and a musician as essential as a Keith Richards' riff 870 00:42:38,955 --> 00:42:41,356 to the signature Stones sound. 871 00:42:42,836 --> 00:42:46,596 ♪ When I come home baby ♪ 872 00:42:46,676 --> 00:42:51,517 ♪ And I've been working all night long ♪ 873 00:42:51,597 --> 00:42:56,477 ♪ I put my daughter on my knee, and she says ♪ 874 00:42:56,557 --> 00:42:59,917 - I think if you have an individual timbre of your voice, 875 00:42:59,997 --> 00:43:04,798 which is recognizable just by luck if you want, 876 00:43:04,878 --> 00:43:06,878 that's really helpful. 877 00:43:08,238 --> 00:43:08,998 ♪ You know what she says ♪ 878 00:43:09,078 --> 00:43:12,199 - [Bernard] You know the minute he parts those lips, 879 00:43:12,279 --> 00:43:13,959 you know it's him. 880 00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:17,799 When somebody meets him and they talk to him, 881 00:43:17,879 --> 00:43:20,680 he speaks like an English gentleman. 882 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,880 - One perhaps doesn't ask for responsibilities, 883 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,520 perhaps one is given responsibilities 884 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,680 when one is pushed into the limelight 885 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,761 in this particular sphere. 886 00:43:33,161 --> 00:43:35,761 ♪ And I go see her sometimes ♪ 887 00:43:35,841 --> 00:43:37,081 ♪ And we make love ♪ 888 00:43:37,161 --> 00:43:38,801 - [Bernard] And he starts to sing, 889 00:43:38,881 --> 00:43:41,682 he turns into a black man from the South, 890 00:43:41,762 --> 00:43:44,522 the Mick Jagger voice. ♪ I put my head on her shoulder ♪ 891 00:43:44,602 --> 00:43:48,762 ♪ She says, tell me all your troubles ♪ 892 00:43:48,842 --> 00:43:50,803 ♪ You know what she says to me ♪ 893 00:43:50,883 --> 00:43:54,323 ♪ She says, ooh ♪ 894 00:43:54,403 --> 00:43:57,403 - [PP] He's like listened to those voices, 895 00:43:57,483 --> 00:44:00,884 to like all the blues singers, and he had it down. 896 00:44:02,404 --> 00:44:06,164 ♪ And it makes me wonder why ♪ 897 00:44:07,844 --> 00:44:09,644 - Lots of people have great voices, 898 00:44:09,724 --> 00:44:13,885 but lots of people are great guitarists, 899 00:44:13,965 --> 00:44:15,365 but that doesn't necessarily mean 900 00:44:15,445 --> 00:44:17,005 you're gonna be successful. 901 00:44:17,085 --> 00:44:18,285 - [Journalist] Have you got a good voice? 902 00:44:18,365 --> 00:44:19,565 - No. - [Journalist] Technically. 903 00:44:19,645 --> 00:44:21,366 - No, not really. 904 00:44:21,446 --> 00:44:24,406 I mean I'm lucky I still can sing 905 00:44:24,486 --> 00:44:28,006 more or less like the same notes when I was 19. 906 00:44:29,006 --> 00:44:30,327 But no, I haven't got a great voice, 907 00:44:30,407 --> 00:44:33,327 but it's okay, it does its job. 908 00:44:33,407 --> 00:44:35,047 - Mick Jagger, the singer with the group, 909 00:44:35,127 --> 00:44:37,607 a fascinating man, he's been described variously 910 00:44:37,687 --> 00:44:41,168 as the supreme sexual object in modern Western culture, 911 00:44:41,248 --> 00:44:42,968 that's a quote, a compound of menace 912 00:44:43,048 --> 00:44:44,568 and energy is another one, 913 00:44:44,648 --> 00:44:47,088 a sadomasochistic freak is another one. 914 00:44:47,168 --> 00:44:49,248 And it's fascinating. 915 00:44:49,328 --> 00:44:53,809 - [Tina] Mick was not the same person that I met in London 916 00:44:53,889 --> 00:44:56,529 when he was standing behind the speakers. 917 00:44:56,609 --> 00:45:00,009 He had come out of his shell because he had found 918 00:45:00,089 --> 00:45:05,090 what could make him perform the way he wanted to. 919 00:45:06,090 --> 00:45:08,970 Mick became a great performer. 920 00:45:09,050 --> 00:45:11,371 Mick became Mick Jagger. 921 00:45:12,771 --> 00:45:15,571 - [Tommy] Mick decided what he wanted to look like on stage, 922 00:45:15,651 --> 00:45:18,091 whether it was something very Bohemian, 923 00:45:18,171 --> 00:45:21,772 something maybe glittery, wearing eye make-up 924 00:45:21,852 --> 00:45:25,292 and becoming very androgenous. 925 00:45:26,132 --> 00:45:29,772 He was as chameleon-like as you could possibly imagine, 926 00:45:29,852 --> 00:45:32,933 but Mick really didn't give a shit, he did his thing anyway. 927 00:45:33,013 --> 00:45:34,733 So that influenced me 928 00:45:34,813 --> 00:45:37,333 to really go into the fashion business. 929 00:45:38,373 --> 00:45:40,774 - [Anna] The Stones really innovated 930 00:45:40,854 --> 00:45:42,734 that whole androgenous look. 931 00:45:42,814 --> 00:45:46,374 It was a feminized way of dressing, 932 00:45:46,454 --> 00:45:47,774 wearing their girlfriends' clothes, 933 00:45:47,854 --> 00:45:49,574 mixing it in with their wardrobe. 934 00:45:49,654 --> 00:45:52,415 When they had to attract 50,000 people 935 00:45:52,495 --> 00:45:55,655 to look at them on stage, they adapted their look. 936 00:45:56,615 --> 00:45:57,375 - [Journalist] How did you manage 937 00:45:57,455 --> 00:45:59,575 to make androgyny look so butch? 938 00:45:59,655 --> 00:46:00,416 (Mick giggles) 939 00:46:00,496 --> 00:46:03,896 - I didn't even know I was doing androgyny, I was so naive. 940 00:46:03,976 --> 00:46:06,776 But I was, I was doing that androgyny. 941 00:46:06,856 --> 00:46:10,377 But I was, obviously that was just the way I was naturally. 942 00:46:11,377 --> 00:46:13,297 I was a bit fey. 943 00:46:13,377 --> 00:46:15,417 I remember Brian being rather critical of me once 944 00:46:15,497 --> 00:46:18,097 'cause he thought I was too feminine. 945 00:46:18,177 --> 00:46:20,177 I mean, I had my moments of that. 946 00:46:20,778 --> 00:46:23,738 - [Anna] Every, every outfit, he just steals the screen. 947 00:46:24,898 --> 00:46:28,458 - There's a lot of camp background to theater, 948 00:46:28,538 --> 00:46:31,859 and rock and roll is still part of theater in a way. 949 00:46:31,939 --> 00:46:34,259 I had a great make-up artist called Pierre 950 00:46:34,339 --> 00:46:38,299 who would dress me up like wildly, 951 00:46:38,379 --> 00:46:40,780 and I'd have to take some of the layers off. 952 00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:43,940 And I loved it, I loved dressing up. 953 00:46:44,020 --> 00:46:45,980 Of course you dress up very effeminately 954 00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:48,900 but you don't act necessarily effeminately. 955 00:46:48,980 --> 00:46:50,781 - [Narrator] By 1972, 956 00:46:50,861 --> 00:46:54,781 Mick has never been more famous or infamous. 957 00:46:54,861 --> 00:46:56,941 More than just a rock star. 958 00:46:57,021 --> 00:47:00,822 He's an instantly recognizable global celebrity. 959 00:47:02,742 --> 00:47:04,182 - It can be really annoying 960 00:47:04,262 --> 00:47:07,142 because people make all these assumptions about you, 961 00:47:07,222 --> 00:47:08,702 but there's ways of dealing with it 962 00:47:08,782 --> 00:47:11,343 and some people can take it, some people can't. 963 00:47:11,423 --> 00:47:13,463 It's a bit of a pact with the devil really. 964 00:47:13,543 --> 00:47:15,543 Cut. 965 00:47:17,423 --> 00:47:21,544 - I suddenly got an invite to go to his wedding to Bianca. 966 00:47:22,984 --> 00:47:24,984 I thought oh, this'll be fun. 967 00:47:25,304 --> 00:47:27,624 I realized that it's in the South of France. 968 00:47:27,704 --> 00:47:29,784 He'd laid on a plane. 969 00:47:29,864 --> 00:47:32,625 The plane is filling up with all these artistes 970 00:47:32,705 --> 00:47:36,065 and famous people of the day. 971 00:47:36,145 --> 00:47:38,025 We had such a great weekend. 972 00:47:38,105 --> 00:47:40,586 (airplane engine revving) 973 00:47:40,666 --> 00:47:44,666 Everyone was stoned, and so it was a great atmosphere. 974 00:47:45,946 --> 00:47:47,586 (rock music) 975 00:47:47,666 --> 00:47:48,426 - [Reporter] At probably 976 00:47:48,506 --> 00:47:50,186 the most chaotic wedding of the year, 977 00:47:50,267 --> 00:47:52,787 Mick Jagger arriving at the Saint Tropez Town Hall 978 00:47:52,867 --> 00:47:55,347 with his bride Bianca de Macias. 979 00:47:55,427 --> 00:47:56,787 When Jagger found that there were scores 980 00:47:56,867 --> 00:47:57,907 of photographers there, 981 00:47:57,987 --> 00:48:01,108 he said he refused to be married in a goldfish bowl. 982 00:48:01,188 --> 00:48:03,388 However, in spite of all the confusion, scuffling 983 00:48:03,468 --> 00:48:05,348 and shouting, one Rolling Stone 984 00:48:05,428 --> 00:48:08,668 at least finally came to rest. 985 00:48:08,748 --> 00:48:11,709 - [Narrator] As Mick's fame grows so does his ambition 986 00:48:11,789 --> 00:48:13,629 for the band. 987 00:48:13,709 --> 00:48:15,029 (crowd cheering) 988 00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:17,069 From the 1970s on, 989 00:48:17,149 --> 00:48:20,510 the sheer scale of their live performances grows 990 00:48:20,590 --> 00:48:21,830 ever larger. 991 00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:24,750 - I've been getting into lights and things, 992 00:48:24,830 --> 00:48:25,550 which has been nice, 993 00:48:25,630 --> 00:48:27,510 but I don't think anyone's really done lights properly 994 00:48:27,590 --> 00:48:28,830 in this country. 995 00:48:28,910 --> 00:48:30,831 - Last week, New York City finally got to see 996 00:48:30,911 --> 00:48:31,831 and hear the Rolling Stones. 997 00:48:31,911 --> 00:48:33,071 We were the last stop on a tour 998 00:48:33,151 --> 00:48:34,951 that I'm sure most of you have heard about, 999 00:48:35,031 --> 00:48:37,591 and the tour was amazingly complicated logistically 1000 00:48:37,671 --> 00:48:40,151 in terms of moving them and more than 100 people 1001 00:48:40,231 --> 00:48:41,672 that travel with them and all the equipment 1002 00:48:41,752 --> 00:48:43,552 from city to city. 1003 00:48:43,632 --> 00:48:44,632 - [Glyn] The Stones were the first band 1004 00:48:44,712 --> 00:48:46,472 to have their own stages built 1005 00:48:46,552 --> 00:48:48,392 and their own stage designs built, 1006 00:48:48,472 --> 00:48:50,192 which were pretty extraordinary. 1007 00:48:50,273 --> 00:48:52,953 That was Mick, that wasn't anyone else, that was Mick. 1008 00:48:55,033 --> 00:48:58,353 (crowd cheering) 1009 00:48:58,433 --> 00:49:01,794 - [Narrator] The next two decades see the Stones create 1010 00:49:01,874 --> 00:49:06,154 a traveling carnival that only they control. 1011 00:49:06,234 --> 00:49:08,674 - [Chess] I felt something like I'd never felt in my life, 1012 00:49:08,754 --> 00:49:13,235 I felt like 20,000 people's energy looking at Mick 1013 00:49:14,435 --> 00:49:19,435 and I couldn't believe the sensation of that focused energy. 1014 00:49:20,155 --> 00:49:22,156 It's undescribable. 1015 00:49:23,076 --> 00:49:24,476 - When all these lights come on in red, 1016 00:49:24,556 --> 00:49:25,996 I'd like the whole stage to be red 1017 00:49:26,076 --> 00:49:29,036 and not to have just the front area. 1018 00:49:29,116 --> 00:49:30,357 - We've gone back to the crane. 1019 00:49:30,437 --> 00:49:33,197 I mean we talked about just losing the crane. 1020 00:49:33,277 --> 00:49:34,957 - [Patrick] Steel Wheels in '89 1021 00:49:35,037 --> 00:49:37,117 was a ground-breaking stadium tour. 1022 00:49:37,197 --> 00:49:40,117 The Stones did the first tours of stadia, 1023 00:49:40,197 --> 00:49:41,438 as they got bigger and bigger, 1024 00:49:41,518 --> 00:49:44,518 three or four nights at Madison Square Garden wasn't enough. 1025 00:49:45,798 --> 00:49:49,998 - [Bon Jovi] They did create the stadium rock show. 1026 00:49:50,078 --> 00:49:53,399 That generations of people go to see the Rolling Stones 1027 00:49:53,479 --> 00:49:56,879 because it's a bucket-list item, it's a life experience, 1028 00:49:56,959 --> 00:49:58,519 it's a rite of passage. 1029 00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:01,760 That stadium experience was mind-blowing. 1030 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,840 - [Mick] I was just designing a playroom 1031 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,800 for myself that was huge. 1032 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,360 And I used to climb up the back of this stage 1033 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,961 that was 90 foot high, and no one had seen anything like it. 1034 00:50:13,041 --> 00:50:16,121 It's like in the old days when the circus would come. 1035 00:50:16,201 --> 00:50:18,401 - [Andy] When rock music got to that level 1036 00:50:18,481 --> 00:50:20,482 it became this giant thing. 1037 00:50:22,082 --> 00:50:23,602 Mick was running the show 1038 00:50:23,682 --> 00:50:25,362 and I think he's always run the show, 1039 00:50:25,442 --> 00:50:27,522 and I think they're all happy that he did. 1040 00:50:28,722 --> 00:50:31,163 (Mick speaking indistinctly) 1041 00:50:31,243 --> 00:50:32,403 - Are you ready? 1042 00:50:32,483 --> 00:50:34,963 We would go through the ideas for these big stadium tours 1043 00:50:35,043 --> 00:50:37,843 with the massive stages that were very expensive. 1044 00:50:37,923 --> 00:50:40,604 Some of them were just crazy and wonderful, 1045 00:50:40,684 --> 00:50:44,284 there were so many ideas, and not all of them practical. 1046 00:50:45,764 --> 00:50:49,404 (gentle music) (crowd cheering) 1047 00:50:49,484 --> 00:50:52,205 - [Patrick] Mick wanted to have an elephant come out 1048 00:50:52,285 --> 00:50:55,965 at the end of a performance and present him with a rose 1049 00:50:56,045 --> 00:50:58,205 in the end of his trunk. 1050 00:50:58,285 --> 00:50:59,765 What was he thinking? 1051 00:50:59,845 --> 00:51:01,246 What was he thinking? 1052 00:51:01,326 --> 00:51:03,406 And Mick will always push the envelope a bit. 1053 00:51:03,486 --> 00:51:06,486 Keith is the person who might stop that. 1054 00:51:06,566 --> 00:51:09,286 He famously stopped the elephant on the stage. 1055 00:51:10,206 --> 00:51:10,967 (Keith giggles) 1056 00:51:11,047 --> 00:51:11,807 - Everybody, 1057 00:51:11,887 --> 00:51:14,487 the sigh of relief almost blew the building down. 1058 00:51:14,567 --> 00:51:18,727 - [Bernard] I think that at times Mick might push further 1059 00:51:18,807 --> 00:51:21,368 than the band would like to go. 1060 00:51:21,448 --> 00:51:24,968 And when that happens, I guess there's a little discussion, 1061 00:51:25,048 --> 00:51:30,048 or there's no discussion, there's just no, no, 1062 00:51:30,769 --> 00:51:33,769 I'm not doing it and you can't make me. 1063 00:51:33,849 --> 00:51:34,569 - [Journalist] Would you tell me 1064 00:51:34,649 --> 00:51:36,649 about your relationship with Keith? 1065 00:51:38,009 --> 00:51:38,969 - No. 1066 00:51:39,049 --> 00:51:40,810 We have a pretty good relationship, 1067 00:51:40,890 --> 00:51:42,130 we have our ups and downs. 1068 00:51:42,210 --> 00:51:43,330 But I mean, after 30-something years, 1069 00:51:43,410 --> 00:51:45,250 I mean if you don't have any ups and downs, 1070 00:51:45,330 --> 00:51:47,930 there's something wrong with your relationship. 1071 00:51:48,010 --> 00:51:50,371 - [Bernard] There was a time you would never see Mick 1072 00:51:50,451 --> 00:51:53,731 and Keith put their arm around each other, 1073 00:51:53,811 --> 00:51:55,011 'cause for a lot of years, 1074 00:51:55,091 --> 00:51:57,731 they weren't laughing so much together. 1075 00:51:58,771 --> 00:52:02,052 - [Chrissie] The band isn't really meant to be touchy-feely, 1076 00:52:02,132 --> 00:52:03,972 that's what's great about them. 1077 00:52:04,052 --> 00:52:06,332 - You've been playing a bit of guitar, haven't you? 1078 00:52:06,412 --> 00:52:08,252 - Yeah, on stage. 1079 00:52:08,332 --> 00:52:10,172 Yeah, but I haven't played so much. 1080 00:52:10,252 --> 00:52:12,733 I enjoyed it very much, playing guitar. 1081 00:52:12,813 --> 00:52:15,333 Keith keeps adjusting my settings 1082 00:52:15,413 --> 00:52:17,413 when I'm singing of course. 1083 00:52:18,133 --> 00:52:20,414 If I did that with him he'd probably go bananas. 1084 00:52:20,494 --> 00:52:24,854 - [Bernard] That anger created a type of spark, 1085 00:52:24,934 --> 00:52:28,654 anger makes for good song writing. 1086 00:52:28,734 --> 00:52:31,895 - [Rod] Mick has always been the captain of the ship, 1087 00:52:31,975 --> 00:52:33,095 I know Keith won't like to hear that 1088 00:52:33,175 --> 00:52:35,335 but in the early '70s I thought, 1089 00:52:35,415 --> 00:52:37,695 like we all felt at the time, 1090 00:52:37,775 --> 00:52:39,855 you don't know how lucky you are, mate. 1091 00:52:39,935 --> 00:52:41,336 (gentle music) 1092 00:52:41,416 --> 00:52:43,016 - [Bernard] After a while, 1093 00:52:43,096 --> 00:52:45,656 I'm now seeing the love and respect 1094 00:52:46,576 --> 00:52:51,657 that they have each other, it warms the shit out of me. 1095 00:52:51,737 --> 00:52:53,177 (gentle music) 1096 00:52:53,257 --> 00:52:58,097 ♪ I'm the man on the mountain, come on up ♪ 1097 00:53:05,858 --> 00:53:10,859 ♪ I'm the plowman in the valley with a face full of mud ♪ 1098 00:53:16,659 --> 00:53:21,660 ♪ Well, I'm fumbling and I know my car don't start ♪ 1099 00:53:22,860 --> 00:53:27,860 ♪ Yes, I'm stumbling and I know I play a bad guitar ♪ 1100 00:53:29,140 --> 00:53:32,341 ♪ But I just wanna drink ♪ 1101 00:53:32,421 --> 00:53:36,381 ♪ From your loving cup ♪ 1102 00:53:36,461 --> 00:53:40,862 ♪ Just one drink and I'll fall down ♪ 1103 00:53:40,942 --> 00:53:45,142 - The thing about bands is that, that it's a band, 1104 00:53:46,022 --> 00:53:48,342 it's a collection of individuals a band, 1105 00:53:48,422 --> 00:53:50,303 they say you're just like brothers, 1106 00:53:50,383 --> 00:53:51,143 you're just like a family. 1107 00:53:51,223 --> 00:53:52,783 It's not like a family at all. 1108 00:53:52,863 --> 00:53:55,023 I actually have a brother 1109 00:53:55,103 --> 00:53:57,263 and I know what it's like to have a brother 1110 00:53:57,343 --> 00:53:59,703 and it's not like being with Keith at all. 1111 00:54:02,264 --> 00:54:06,984 It's friendship and it's friendship and working together. 1112 00:54:08,344 --> 00:54:10,945 ♪ Give me little drink ♪ 1113 00:54:11,025 --> 00:54:13,585 ♪ From your loving cup ♪ 1114 00:54:13,665 --> 00:54:16,345 As in friendships or love affairs people have roles to play, 1115 00:54:16,425 --> 00:54:20,346 but those roles change, and so it's in a state of flux, 1116 00:54:20,426 --> 00:54:21,586 so it's never the same. 1117 00:54:21,666 --> 00:54:23,186 So if you're talking about a band like the Rolling Stones 1118 00:54:23,266 --> 00:54:24,906 who have been around for such a long time 1119 00:54:24,986 --> 00:54:26,986 then all of these things apply. 1120 00:54:27,866 --> 00:54:31,347 - [Brian] Jagger and Richards depend on each other 1121 00:54:31,427 --> 00:54:33,107 more than they'll ever know. 1122 00:54:33,187 --> 00:54:35,347 ♪ What a beautiful buzz ♪ 1123 00:54:35,427 --> 00:54:38,747 ♪ What a beautiful buzz ♪ 1124 00:54:40,027 --> 00:54:42,748 - Oh, they've had an argument. 1125 00:54:42,828 --> 00:54:46,028 Oh, my God, and I mean it's all talk 1126 00:54:46,108 --> 00:54:48,388 about storms in teacups. 1127 00:54:49,988 --> 00:54:51,109 And so before I know it, 1128 00:54:51,189 --> 00:54:54,749 Mick and I are actually making up fights 1129 00:54:54,829 --> 00:54:59,029 just to keep everybody happy, you know what I mean. 1130 00:54:59,109 --> 00:55:00,670 And so it gets ridiculous. 1131 00:55:00,750 --> 00:55:03,070 No, we're tight. 1132 00:55:03,150 --> 00:55:05,750 ♪ Give me little drink ♪ 1133 00:55:05,830 --> 00:55:10,190 ♪ From your loving cup ♪ 1134 00:55:10,270 --> 00:55:15,111 ♪ Just one drink and I'll fall down drunk ♪ 1135 00:55:17,751 --> 00:55:18,471 - [Journalist] Have you got any idea 1136 00:55:18,551 --> 00:55:21,912 why your group particularly has lasted as long as it has? 1137 00:55:21,992 --> 00:55:23,472 - Because we stay together I suppose. 1138 00:55:23,552 --> 00:55:25,032 - [Keith] And we enjoy it. 1139 00:55:25,112 --> 00:55:27,752 - We all have little sort of disagreements, 1140 00:55:27,832 --> 00:55:31,713 and we haven't had any violence since 1965 I don't think. 1141 00:55:32,833 --> 00:55:34,593 - [Journalist] And what happened in 1965? 1142 00:55:34,673 --> 00:55:36,353 - Was that the chicken? 1143 00:55:36,433 --> 00:55:37,393 (both chuckle) 1144 00:55:37,473 --> 00:55:39,193 Someone stole someone's chicken sandwich. 1145 00:55:39,273 --> 00:55:41,474 That was the last fight we had. 1146 00:55:41,554 --> 00:55:42,314 - [Journalist] Can you picture yourself 1147 00:55:42,394 --> 00:55:44,674 at the age of 60 doing what you do now? 1148 00:55:44,754 --> 00:55:46,674 - Yeah, easily, yeah. 1149 00:55:46,754 --> 00:55:48,434 - [Journalist] What happens to someone like yourself, 1150 00:55:48,514 --> 00:55:50,795 Mick Jagger, when you get old? - When you get old, yeah, 1151 00:55:50,875 --> 00:55:52,555 the same as what happens to you, love. 1152 00:55:52,635 --> 00:55:54,515 (crowd cheering) 1153 00:55:54,595 --> 00:55:56,435 - [Narrator] The Stones have now played live 1154 00:55:56,515 --> 00:56:00,516 in front of more than 15 million people 1155 00:56:00,596 --> 00:56:03,596 on every continent on Earth. 1156 00:56:03,676 --> 00:56:08,116 Drawing record-breaking crowds in Rio in 2006 1157 00:56:08,196 --> 00:56:10,677 and Havana 10 years later, 1158 00:56:10,757 --> 00:56:14,557 in a country that banned their music for decades. 1159 00:56:16,077 --> 00:56:19,117 - But I try to do things that haven't been done before 1160 00:56:19,197 --> 00:56:20,478 or difficult to do. 1161 00:56:20,558 --> 00:56:25,278 But I don't honestly enjoy doing business per se very much. 1162 00:56:25,358 --> 00:56:26,398 I'd much rather be a performer 1163 00:56:26,478 --> 00:56:28,918 and I wish I didn't have to do any of the business things. 1164 00:56:28,998 --> 00:56:31,439 But I am interested in creating shows. 1165 00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:34,879 (crowd cheering) 1166 00:56:34,959 --> 00:56:38,759 The whole thing of trying to go to Cuba was impossible. 1167 00:56:38,839 --> 00:56:39,839 Let's see if we can do it. 1168 00:56:39,919 --> 00:56:41,800 And the answer's not really, we can't. 1169 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,880 And you push and you push and you push, 1170 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,640 and then you keep pushing and you keep pushing. 1171 00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:48,200 Well, we'll find a way of just getting round this. 1172 00:56:50,521 --> 00:56:54,201 ♪ And you can't always get what you want ♪ 1173 00:56:54,281 --> 00:56:55,561 - [Patrick] I like to hear on the radio 1174 00:56:55,641 --> 00:56:57,841 at five past eight, you'll hear the tour manager 1175 00:56:57,921 --> 00:56:59,841 to the production manager, and he just says, 1176 00:56:59,921 --> 00:57:02,282 "We're walking, we're walking." 1177 00:57:02,362 --> 00:57:04,362 We know that it's three minutes to the stage 1178 00:57:04,442 --> 00:57:05,722 and then they start the intro music, 1179 00:57:05,802 --> 00:57:08,922 and then the show starts, and you still get butterflies 1180 00:57:09,002 --> 00:57:11,003 and excitement when you do that. 1181 00:57:11,683 --> 00:57:16,843 ♪ You get what you need ♪ 1182 00:57:16,923 --> 00:57:19,883 ♪ You get what you need ♪ 1183 00:57:19,963 --> 00:57:22,964 (gentle music) 1184 00:57:23,044 --> 00:57:25,964 (choir vocalizing) 1185 00:57:33,965 --> 00:57:35,445 - Sometimes I think the Stones would go on 1186 00:57:35,525 --> 00:57:37,525 without Mick or me or something, 1187 00:57:37,605 --> 00:57:40,205 it would still carry on somehow. 1188 00:57:44,006 --> 00:57:46,926 - If you look at musical history, pop music history, 1189 00:57:47,006 --> 00:57:48,526 nothing lasts forever. 1190 00:57:48,606 --> 00:57:50,567 (Mick giggles) 1191 00:57:50,647 --> 00:57:53,207 (gentle music) 1192 00:57:55,847 --> 00:57:56,607 - [Andy] You have to go 1193 00:57:56,687 --> 00:57:59,407 how did this rebel rock and roll band stand the test 1194 00:57:59,487 --> 00:58:01,048 of time, still stay together. 1195 00:58:01,128 --> 00:58:03,048 Mick is the answer to that. 1196 00:58:03,128 --> 00:58:05,688 (crowd cheering) 1197 00:58:05,768 --> 00:58:07,768 - [Lisa] He doesn't beat his own butt 1198 00:58:07,848 --> 00:58:11,249 about I'm not who I was 40 years ago. 1199 00:58:11,329 --> 00:58:14,169 It's like I know who I was 40 years ago, 1200 00:58:14,249 --> 00:58:16,889 I knew who I was 50, 60 years ago. 1201 00:58:17,809 --> 00:58:20,249 (crowd cheering) 1202 00:58:20,330 --> 00:58:21,570 - [Don] They're not gonna end. 1203 00:58:21,650 --> 00:58:22,370 (Don giggles) 1204 00:58:22,450 --> 00:58:25,530 They've been doing this since I was in the sixth grade, 1205 00:58:25,610 --> 00:58:27,970 and they're gonna keep doing it 'til they drop. 1206 00:58:29,450 --> 00:58:32,051 ♪ You get what you need ♪ 1207 00:58:32,131 --> 00:58:33,931 - [Bernard] The hardest thing in rock and roll 1208 00:58:34,011 --> 00:58:36,331 is to keep the band together. 1209 00:58:36,411 --> 00:58:38,411 Got to keep the band together. 1210 00:58:39,051 --> 00:58:41,052 Got to keep the band together. 1211 00:58:41,652 --> 00:58:43,652 And Mick Jagger did. 1212 00:58:44,172 --> 00:58:46,932 (crowd cheering) 1213 00:58:49,572 --> 00:58:52,133 (gentle music)