1 00:00:01,519 --> 00:00:02,599 - [Crew Member] Okay, this is Keith; take 1. 2 00:00:02,679 --> 00:00:03,439 (clapper clacks) 3 00:00:03,519 --> 00:00:08,519 ("Can't You Hear Me Knocking" by The Rolling Stones) 4 00:00:12,879 --> 00:00:14,959 - [Chrissie] Every guy I've ever met in my life 5 00:00:15,039 --> 00:00:17,199 wants to be Keith Richards. 6 00:00:17,279 --> 00:00:21,319 - [Brian] He is the epitome of a rock guitarist. 7 00:00:21,399 --> 00:00:25,119 The original, the one and only, it's Keith Richards. 8 00:00:25,999 --> 00:00:28,319 ♪ Yeah, you got satin shoes ♪ 9 00:00:28,399 --> 00:00:30,039 - [Narrator] Keith Richards has led a life 10 00:00:30,119 --> 00:00:32,119 wreathed in legend. 11 00:00:32,199 --> 00:00:32,959 ♪ Yeah, you got ♪ 12 00:00:33,039 --> 00:00:34,919 - [Narrator] His attitude and legacy 13 00:00:34,999 --> 00:00:37,959 underpin the whole idea of the guitar hero. 14 00:00:38,999 --> 00:00:39,719 ♪ Y'all got ♪ 15 00:00:39,799 --> 00:00:41,599 - What job is it of mine to go around wondering 16 00:00:41,679 --> 00:00:43,879 what other people's perceptions are? 17 00:00:43,959 --> 00:00:45,519 I have enough dealing with my own. 18 00:00:45,599 --> 00:00:47,359 ♪ Yeah, you got speed freak jive ♪ 19 00:00:47,439 --> 00:00:49,399 - I can only imagine what delusions 20 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,079 other people labour under. 21 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,559 Hah. ♪ The window ♪ 22 00:00:53,639 --> 00:00:55,599 - [Narrator] More than just a musician, 23 00:00:55,679 --> 00:00:57,439 he's a defiant hedonist 24 00:00:57,519 --> 00:01:00,159 and a poster boy for sheer survival. 25 00:01:01,519 --> 00:01:03,959 - [Lars] Rock and roll has to have an element of danger 26 00:01:04,039 --> 00:01:06,639 and an element of unpredictability. 27 00:01:06,719 --> 00:01:09,079 And when you look at Keith Richards, 28 00:01:09,159 --> 00:01:11,199 he embodies every element that you want 29 00:01:11,279 --> 00:01:13,279 in your rock and roll star. 30 00:01:14,559 --> 00:01:16,519 - [Don] Keith is all about living your life 31 00:01:16,599 --> 00:01:18,599 with no one telling you how to be. 32 00:01:20,559 --> 00:01:23,639 It's following who you are, fearlessly. 33 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,639 - It's really the skin of the teeth 34 00:01:27,719 --> 00:01:29,439 first off, that it happens to you, 35 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:30,759 then you've got to survive it 36 00:01:30,839 --> 00:01:32,279 because you don't know what you're in for 37 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:33,719 when you start this thing. 38 00:01:33,799 --> 00:01:34,559 I still don't. 39 00:01:34,639 --> 00:01:36,439 It's only surprises. 40 00:01:36,519 --> 00:01:38,159 (laughs) 41 00:01:38,239 --> 00:01:43,239 (saxophone ululating) (crowd cheering) 42 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:48,239 (bluesy guitar strumming) 43 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:51,079 I could kid myself that I was obviously born 44 00:01:51,159 --> 00:01:55,399 to play rock and roll and be an enormous star. 45 00:01:55,479 --> 00:01:57,799 No, I dreamt of that, but that doesn't... 46 00:01:57,879 --> 00:02:00,639 That's not the same thing as knowing, is it? 47 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:02,359 Do we call that destiny? 48 00:02:02,439 --> 00:02:04,039 What do we call it? 49 00:02:04,119 --> 00:02:05,199 I call it love. 50 00:02:05,279 --> 00:02:07,359 (laughs) 51 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,799 - [Glyn] There isn't another guitar player 52 00:02:11,879 --> 00:02:12,799 like Keith Richards. 53 00:02:12,879 --> 00:02:15,279 There's nobody who comes anywhere close to him. 54 00:02:17,479 --> 00:02:20,119 - [Tina] It was that sound of the guitar. 55 00:02:20,199 --> 00:02:22,039 And the sound of that guitar 56 00:02:22,119 --> 00:02:26,359 was the creation, I would say, of the Rolling Stones. 57 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,399 - [Slash] He is definitely the archetypal bad boy, 58 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:33,839 rock guitarist personified, 59 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,879 and he's the model that all of us 60 00:02:35,959 --> 00:02:39,679 rebellious rock guitar players follow from. 61 00:02:41,119 --> 00:02:44,599 - [Sheryl] Keith Richards wrote the dictionary version 62 00:02:44,679 --> 00:02:46,639 of what rock and roll was. 63 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:50,479 A songwriter, a guitar slinger, a traveling troubadour. 64 00:02:51,359 --> 00:02:53,319 - He's such an encyclopedia. 65 00:02:53,399 --> 00:02:55,519 If you need any advice, just go to Keith. 66 00:02:55,599 --> 00:02:57,839 No matter what state he's in, he'll boom, 67 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,679 go straight to the heart of something. 68 00:02:59,759 --> 00:03:01,319 "Oh, okay, that's the answer." 69 00:03:01,399 --> 00:03:03,399 Keith has the answer. 70 00:03:04,239 --> 00:03:05,959 - [Tom] Keith is just something else. 71 00:03:06,039 --> 00:03:08,599 He's emotionally very present, 72 00:03:08,679 --> 00:03:10,039 as present as you can be 73 00:03:10,119 --> 00:03:13,039 when you're really in the business of fantasy. 74 00:03:14,279 --> 00:03:17,359 - [Don] Say, you're a rock and roll fan as a teenager, 75 00:03:17,439 --> 00:03:18,719 you have five kids 76 00:03:18,799 --> 00:03:21,079 and you have to go to work at the assembly line 77 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:23,159 for the Ford Motor Company, 78 00:03:23,239 --> 00:03:24,799 well, if you go to a Stones show 79 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:27,319 and Keith is standing there looking badass, 80 00:03:28,199 --> 00:03:31,439 you're visiting the part of you that you feel is missing. 81 00:03:34,599 --> 00:03:38,359 - [Narrator] After 60 years, the Stones are still rolling, 82 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:41,799 playing sell-out shows in all four corners of the globe. 83 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:46,999 But at the musical heart of every gig is one key character. 84 00:03:53,359 --> 00:03:54,199 - [Mick] I think everyone creates 85 00:03:54,279 --> 00:03:56,639 a character for themselves, to a certain extent. 86 00:03:56,719 --> 00:03:59,119 I don't know whether Keith's created a character of himself 87 00:03:59,199 --> 00:04:02,599 which is real or not real. 88 00:04:02,679 --> 00:04:05,119 Keith's got a reputation as a hell raiser, 89 00:04:05,199 --> 00:04:08,239 so I think he was very worried, at one point, 90 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:11,199 if he was no longer gonna be a hell raiser, 91 00:04:11,279 --> 00:04:15,119 he's not that character anymore, who are you then? 92 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:16,839 I don't think he cares about that anymore. 93 00:04:16,919 --> 00:04:18,919 I don't blame him. 94 00:04:19,679 --> 00:04:20,439 - [Interviewer] Are you comfortable 95 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:21,479 doing interviews like this? 96 00:04:21,559 --> 00:04:23,039 I mean, you've been doing them for a long time. 97 00:04:23,119 --> 00:04:24,679 Is it something you relish? 98 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:27,559 - It depends on the interviewer, old boy. 99 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:28,839 I don't mind, you know. 100 00:04:28,919 --> 00:04:31,599 I mean, I must say, now and again, it's a grind, 101 00:04:33,479 --> 00:04:35,319 answering the same questions. 102 00:04:35,399 --> 00:04:37,559 At the same time, that's a challenge 103 00:04:37,639 --> 00:04:41,039 because you think, "Can I come up with another answer 104 00:04:41,119 --> 00:04:43,999 "that means the same thing in different words?" 105 00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:46,079 so you just slip and slide. 106 00:04:48,359 --> 00:04:49,959 - [Tom] If you have a persona, 107 00:04:50,039 --> 00:04:52,399 it is like a ventriloquist act, 108 00:04:52,479 --> 00:04:55,239 it's sitting on your lap but it's not you. 109 00:04:56,919 --> 00:04:59,599 I guess you could call it convenient at times, 110 00:04:59,679 --> 00:05:02,919 but there are also other times when it's very inconvenient. 111 00:05:05,679 --> 00:05:06,919 - We are all hand-in-glove 112 00:05:06,999 --> 00:05:10,879 in this dastardly scheme to sell our products. 113 00:05:10,959 --> 00:05:15,999 But I consider it as part of the gig. 114 00:05:16,079 --> 00:05:20,399 So there we go, story so far. 115 00:05:20,479 --> 00:05:21,439 - [Reporter] Why are you coming to see the show? 116 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:22,319 Who are you going to see? 117 00:05:22,399 --> 00:05:23,879 - [Concert-Goer] Keith Richards, Keith Richards. 118 00:05:23,959 --> 00:05:25,519 - I like his hair. 119 00:05:25,599 --> 00:05:26,479 - [Reporter] Just his hair? 120 00:05:26,559 --> 00:05:29,279 - [Concert-Goer] I just like him. 121 00:05:31,439 --> 00:05:32,959 - [Narrator] Life in the spotlight 122 00:05:33,039 --> 00:05:35,039 hasn't always been easy for Keith. 123 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,839 - [Mick] He's terribly shy. 124 00:05:43,159 --> 00:05:44,839 I mean, as I knew him when he was a child 125 00:05:44,919 --> 00:05:46,439 and growing up to be a teenager, 126 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:48,719 I know what he's really, really like. 127 00:05:48,799 --> 00:05:50,439 No one else knows him from that period 128 00:05:50,519 --> 00:05:52,519 except for me, I think. 129 00:05:56,559 --> 00:05:58,319 You can see from the interviews, 130 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:00,919 he's introverted, naturally. 131 00:06:09,959 --> 00:06:12,559 - I don't know how to define shyness. 132 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:14,399 I don't know, when it comes to shyness, 133 00:06:14,479 --> 00:06:16,799 I don't really know where to put it. 134 00:06:16,879 --> 00:06:19,919 I mean, I sometimes I think I use it as a weapon 135 00:06:19,999 --> 00:06:21,719 and say "I'm shy." 136 00:06:21,799 --> 00:06:25,239 And I guess, in a way, you get shy of things, 137 00:06:25,319 --> 00:06:28,879 crowds and stuff, because I can't go to a movie, 138 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:31,279 to a cinema anymore. 139 00:06:31,359 --> 00:06:33,359 Sometimes when I have, 140 00:06:35,479 --> 00:06:37,959 I've never felt more embarrassed in my life. 141 00:06:38,039 --> 00:06:38,799 There's somebody going, 142 00:06:38,879 --> 00:06:40,119 "It's Keith Richards, it's Keith Richards." 143 00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:43,639 I've ruined the whole movie for everybody, right? 144 00:06:43,719 --> 00:06:47,359 Then I go "Oh, excuse me," tripping over people. 145 00:06:47,439 --> 00:06:49,479 "I'll leave now." 146 00:06:49,559 --> 00:06:52,519 I get shy in that situation, 147 00:06:52,599 --> 00:06:56,279 and that just comes with fame and all of that crap, 148 00:06:56,359 --> 00:06:58,759 which throws another load of stuff at you. 149 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:02,679 - If you're an extrovert in show business, 150 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:04,759 I think you're in a good place. 151 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:07,159 If you're an introvert in show business, 152 00:07:07,239 --> 00:07:10,639 it will cause you probably some anguish, 153 00:07:10,719 --> 00:07:14,199 or discomfort perhaps, or anxiety. 154 00:07:19,359 --> 00:07:22,519 - [Chrissie] Most people that are in bands, guitar players, 155 00:07:22,599 --> 00:07:25,879 maybe they're a little introverted, they're a bit awkward, 156 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:28,119 they can't talk to girls. 157 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:29,959 Even Jimi Hendrix would just be 158 00:07:30,039 --> 00:07:31,879 at the back of the class, mumbling, 159 00:07:31,959 --> 00:07:35,479 but give him a guitar and the world lights up. 160 00:07:37,999 --> 00:07:39,679 - [Tina] Keith didn't care, in the beginning, 161 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:43,079 about clothes or about his image. 162 00:07:44,039 --> 00:07:47,079 He was just concerned with the sound. 163 00:07:49,239 --> 00:07:53,039 This was his way of performing. 164 00:07:53,119 --> 00:07:55,239 He was back there making the sound. 165 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:01,679 - [Narrator] Keith was born in 1943. 166 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:05,079 18 miles east of London in Dartford, Kent. 167 00:08:06,759 --> 00:08:07,799 - I understand that you two 168 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:08,919 of all the five fellas, 169 00:08:08,999 --> 00:08:10,839 you two have been friends longest, is that right? 170 00:08:10,919 --> 00:08:12,199 You've known each other, went to school together? 171 00:08:12,279 --> 00:08:13,399 - Yes. - We were little lads. 172 00:08:13,479 --> 00:08:15,199 - Oh, when we were little boys. 173 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:16,719 - Little-bitty boys. - Yes. 174 00:08:16,799 --> 00:08:17,919 - And you were raised around London, right? 175 00:08:17,999 --> 00:08:18,999 - Yes. - Yes. 176 00:08:19,079 --> 00:08:20,359 - [Reporter] Is it in London itself, or... 177 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:21,279 - No, just outside, about 20 miles. 178 00:08:21,359 --> 00:08:24,239 - In the suburbs. - In the suburbs of London. 179 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:25,879 - [Reporter] What's the suburb called? 180 00:08:25,959 --> 00:08:27,119 - Dartford. 181 00:08:27,199 --> 00:08:27,959 - [Reporter] Dartford. 182 00:08:28,039 --> 00:08:28,999 - You're right on the edge of the country, 183 00:08:29,079 --> 00:08:32,719 so you've got you know, commuters, heavy industry 184 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:35,759 and you've got countryside, very beautiful, 185 00:08:35,839 --> 00:08:37,999 still very beautiful. 186 00:08:38,079 --> 00:08:41,239 The Dickensian sort of marshes 187 00:08:41,319 --> 00:08:43,319 that go to the Thames Estuary 188 00:08:44,079 --> 00:08:47,319 described in "Great Expectations" so fully. 189 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,319 - [Keith] Dartford, is that on the planet Krypton? 190 00:08:53,719 --> 00:08:55,519 (engines droning) 191 00:08:55,599 --> 00:08:59,479 You were growing up in the residue of a huge world war, 192 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,679 but you didn't know anything about it. 193 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:03,759 It was just the way things were. 194 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,159 Bombsite here. 195 00:09:06,239 --> 00:09:07,639 "No, you can't have that, 196 00:09:07,719 --> 00:09:10,919 "we don't have any ration tickets left." 197 00:09:10,999 --> 00:09:13,799 I mean, it wasn't unusual, you didn't feel hard done by, 198 00:09:13,879 --> 00:09:15,879 it was just the way it was. 199 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,919 - The exam, called the 11+, looms large, 200 00:09:21,999 --> 00:09:25,359 sorting British kids into the different educational paths 201 00:09:25,439 --> 00:09:27,959 which will determine their future. 202 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,879 - I remember the 11+, I didn't take it. 203 00:09:32,959 --> 00:09:36,239 I went down with some kind of flu at the time 204 00:09:36,319 --> 00:09:39,479 or whatever it was, and so I didn't actually get to take it, 205 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,039 which I was immense... 206 00:09:41,119 --> 00:09:43,519 I think I had a psychosomatic disease. 207 00:09:43,599 --> 00:09:46,119 I just, "Exams are the thing that will kill me," you know? 208 00:09:46,199 --> 00:09:46,959 I mean it's... 209 00:09:47,039 --> 00:09:47,919 Jesus. 210 00:09:47,999 --> 00:09:51,679 You either became a professional, basically, of whatever, 211 00:09:54,039 --> 00:09:59,039 or you dug the ditches and you do what working men do. 212 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:01,759 And of course, being kids like that, you don't realize 213 00:10:01,839 --> 00:10:06,839 that you're being streamed into one aspect of society. 214 00:10:08,719 --> 00:10:11,559 You're being dumped or you're being elevated. 215 00:10:11,639 --> 00:10:13,239 You have no idea, right? 216 00:10:13,319 --> 00:10:15,759 Anyway, I took the middle route and got expelled. 217 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:18,799 And which I recommend heartedly 218 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:21,919 to any red-blooded English schoolboy. 219 00:10:21,999 --> 00:10:22,999 As far as I was concerned, 220 00:10:23,079 --> 00:10:25,599 it only heaped humiliation on me 221 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,119 and I weren't going to take it anymore, you know? 222 00:10:28,199 --> 00:10:31,839 You break it with one form of authority 223 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:34,999 and maybe after that you start to question 224 00:10:36,639 --> 00:10:38,679 other forms of authority. 225 00:10:38,759 --> 00:10:42,959 There was always something about being told what to do, 226 00:10:43,039 --> 00:10:45,279 especially without any reason. 227 00:10:47,919 --> 00:10:49,719 - [Narrator] If rebel Keith is born 228 00:10:49,799 --> 00:10:52,239 of a healthy disregard for authority, 229 00:10:52,319 --> 00:10:57,119 it's his grandfather, Gus Dupree, an amateur jazz musician, 230 00:10:57,199 --> 00:11:00,199 who fosters an early enthusiasm for music. 231 00:11:00,279 --> 00:11:03,679 (uptempo chiming music) 232 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:06,439 - [Keith] He was the father of seven daughters 233 00:11:06,519 --> 00:11:08,879 who, as far as I'm concerned, 234 00:11:08,959 --> 00:11:13,799 I seem to have been the only boy he didn't have. 235 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:16,159 So in fact, to me he was more like a dad 236 00:11:16,239 --> 00:11:18,679 or a friend than a grandfather. 237 00:11:20,839 --> 00:11:22,879 He'd take me into music shops, 238 00:11:22,959 --> 00:11:24,679 but we'd always go in round the back, 239 00:11:24,759 --> 00:11:26,719 we never went in the front door. 240 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:29,679 And there was always a little deal about 241 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:33,399 some guitar strings or some violin strings. 242 00:11:33,479 --> 00:11:36,359 But then I would be in the back of these music stores 243 00:11:36,439 --> 00:11:39,679 for like hours, watching people make guitars, 244 00:11:39,759 --> 00:11:42,439 violins, repairing things. 245 00:11:42,519 --> 00:11:46,799 It was like magical stuff going on. 246 00:11:53,079 --> 00:11:56,599 He always had his violin and instruments all ready. 247 00:11:57,759 --> 00:12:02,759 He never ever once pushed me or tried to interest me, 248 00:12:03,359 --> 00:12:07,799 he would just play music, all kinds, jazz, classical. 249 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:10,159 And then we'd just live our life around the music 250 00:12:10,239 --> 00:12:13,599 until one day he noticed that I was looking at the guitar 251 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,679 on top of the piano. 252 00:12:16,959 --> 00:12:17,839 "Since you keep looking at that," he said. 253 00:12:17,919 --> 00:12:19,999 "Do you want to have a go?" 254 00:12:20,079 --> 00:12:21,359 And that's how, bom, he gave it to me. 255 00:12:21,439 --> 00:12:23,119 He said "I'll show you a few chords here, 256 00:12:23,199 --> 00:12:25,639 and you're on your own." 257 00:12:25,719 --> 00:12:27,839 And that was it. 258 00:12:27,919 --> 00:12:29,759 - [Interviewer] Can we just talk about your first guitar? 259 00:12:29,839 --> 00:12:31,279 I think we've got it here. 260 00:12:31,359 --> 00:12:33,159 I'd love to see you handle it. 261 00:12:33,239 --> 00:12:34,439 - So would I! 262 00:12:34,519 --> 00:12:36,119 - [Interviewer] That's all you need to do, okay. 263 00:12:36,199 --> 00:12:38,199 - [Keith] What the fuck! 264 00:12:44,519 --> 00:12:45,919 Oh, that's it. 265 00:12:45,999 --> 00:12:47,999 Oh, man. 266 00:12:48,519 --> 00:12:50,039 Yeah, the mice were at then, 267 00:12:50,119 --> 00:12:52,119 the mice have been at it now. 268 00:12:54,479 --> 00:12:56,479 This... 269 00:12:59,839 --> 00:13:04,479 I believe, is the one that my grandfather gave me, 270 00:13:06,039 --> 00:13:09,679 but I'm not sure about that really, but... 271 00:13:13,159 --> 00:13:17,599 (strings twang out a melody) 272 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:18,799 Definitely my grandfather. 273 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:20,959 (laughs) 274 00:13:22,479 --> 00:13:23,279 Wow, you see? 275 00:13:23,359 --> 00:13:25,359 Lovely piece of wood! 276 00:13:25,999 --> 00:13:29,559 (electric guitar twangs) 277 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:31,559 ♪ Oh Maybellene ♪ 278 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:33,599 ♪ Why can't you be true ♪ 279 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,599 ♪ Oh Maybellene ♪ 280 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,279 - [Narrator] As Keith starts out on his musical journey, 281 00:13:37,359 --> 00:13:40,879 his attention is grabbed by an irresistible new sound: 282 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:42,639 Rock and roll. 283 00:13:42,719 --> 00:13:44,159 ♪ As I was motivatin' over the hill ♪ 284 00:13:44,239 --> 00:13:46,199 I saw Maybellene in a Coupe de Ville 285 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:48,159 ♪ Cadillac rollin' on open road ♪ 286 00:13:48,239 --> 00:13:50,199 ♪ Nothin' outrun my V8 Ford ♪ 287 00:13:50,279 --> 00:13:51,439 - I was getting an urge 288 00:13:51,519 --> 00:13:54,719 for some country music and some blues. 289 00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:56,279 I was starting to get interested. 290 00:13:56,359 --> 00:13:58,439 Very little that you could get in England at the time. 291 00:13:58,519 --> 00:14:00,599 I think when rock and roll came along, 292 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,279 it sort of fused the whole thing together for me. 293 00:14:03,359 --> 00:14:06,399 Hah, you know, "Where have you been?" 294 00:14:06,479 --> 00:14:07,319 ♪ Cadillac pulled up at 104 ♪ 295 00:14:07,399 --> 00:14:10,079 - At that age, it was devastating. 296 00:14:10,159 --> 00:14:11,919 ♪ It done got cloudy and started to rain ♪ 297 00:14:11,999 --> 00:14:13,999 ♪ I tooted my horn for the passin' lane ♪ 298 00:14:14,079 --> 00:14:15,919 ♪ Rain water blowin' all under my hood ♪ 299 00:14:15,999 --> 00:14:19,279 - That's it, that's where you're wanna go, that's it. 300 00:14:19,359 --> 00:14:20,279 "Book me a room!" 301 00:14:20,359 --> 00:14:21,959 (chuckles) 302 00:14:22,039 --> 00:14:26,079 It was an exciting time to be a musician at that age. 303 00:14:26,159 --> 00:14:26,919 Yeah, it was great. 304 00:14:26,999 --> 00:14:29,919 ♪ Started back doin' the things you used to do ♪ 305 00:14:29,999 --> 00:14:32,839 (guitar twanging) 306 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:54,199 - [Glyn] It was so completely different 307 00:14:54,279 --> 00:14:56,479 from anything we'd ever heard. 308 00:14:56,559 --> 00:14:57,799 And it had an excitement 309 00:14:57,879 --> 00:15:00,199 and a positivity about it, I suppose. 310 00:15:01,119 --> 00:15:03,799 Rock and roll started whenever it was, '58. 311 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:06,159 It was Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly 312 00:15:06,239 --> 00:15:08,319 and all that lot that turned our heads. 313 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:12,079 That introduced us more into folk, I suppose, 314 00:15:12,159 --> 00:15:13,039 and then into blues, 315 00:15:13,119 --> 00:15:15,559 and the blues artists of the day, 316 00:15:15,639 --> 00:15:17,719 it was like collecting rare stamps, 317 00:15:17,799 --> 00:15:19,239 finding good blues records. 318 00:15:19,319 --> 00:15:23,479 (audience claps enthusiastically) 319 00:15:25,839 --> 00:15:27,959 - The hits were released by major record companies. 320 00:15:28,039 --> 00:15:30,239 So if it was a hit R&B track 321 00:15:30,319 --> 00:15:32,239 or if it made the Hot 100, 322 00:15:32,319 --> 00:15:33,759 these were easy to get. 323 00:15:33,839 --> 00:15:36,279 Major labels released these records. 324 00:15:36,359 --> 00:15:39,359 To buy the whole album of Muddy Waters 325 00:15:39,439 --> 00:15:40,439 was much more difficult, 326 00:15:40,519 --> 00:15:43,879 and you had to go to a jazz shop in Charing Cross Road 327 00:15:43,959 --> 00:15:44,959 and pay a lot of money for it. 328 00:15:45,039 --> 00:15:47,919 And we used to order them from America a bit cheaper. 329 00:15:47,999 --> 00:15:50,079 And there was a sort of little network of people 330 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:51,159 that had record collections 331 00:15:51,239 --> 00:15:52,639 and so you would go to their houses 332 00:15:52,719 --> 00:15:54,199 and they would play you music, 333 00:15:54,279 --> 00:15:57,119 and you would hear songs perhaps you'd never heard before. 334 00:16:01,199 --> 00:16:03,279 - [Keith] I was going to Sidcup Art School 335 00:16:03,359 --> 00:16:05,359 and Mick, at that time, was going to 336 00:16:05,439 --> 00:16:08,319 the London School of Economics. 337 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:10,159 But I'd just get off at Sidcup, you know. 338 00:16:10,239 --> 00:16:11,839 Meanwhile I'm sitting in the carriage 339 00:16:11,919 --> 00:16:14,319 and suddenly who walks in, it's Mick, 340 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:15,879 who I hadn't seen in years, you know. 341 00:16:15,959 --> 00:16:19,439 "Wow, man, what's that under your arm?" 342 00:16:20,839 --> 00:16:23,759 And he pulls out "The Best of Muddy Waters" 343 00:16:23,839 --> 00:16:26,159 and "Rocking at the Hops" by Chuck Berry. 344 00:16:27,359 --> 00:16:29,039 And these are American pressings 345 00:16:29,119 --> 00:16:32,599 and you can't get these records in England at the time. 346 00:16:34,239 --> 00:16:36,279 Basically, that was the hook-up for the Stones 347 00:16:36,359 --> 00:16:37,719 and for Mick and I, 348 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:41,999 was just that we had the same interest in music. 349 00:16:42,079 --> 00:16:45,759 (electric guitar strumming) 350 00:16:54,119 --> 00:16:57,039 (static crackling) 351 00:16:59,439 --> 00:17:02,959 (blues harmonica wailing) 352 00:17:10,799 --> 00:17:13,439 - [Taj] To know that these guys were dedicated enough 353 00:17:13,519 --> 00:17:16,519 to send their money off into the oblivion 354 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:19,279 in the hopes that something would come back, 355 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,319 and then they would like obsess 356 00:17:21,399 --> 00:17:23,479 and live off of that record, 357 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:25,599 I just think it's just phenomenal. 358 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:28,999 What was it about a cricket-playing, 359 00:17:29,079 --> 00:17:31,479 football-playing bunch of characters 360 00:17:31,559 --> 00:17:35,239 who drank tea at 4 o'clock, who loved this music? 361 00:17:37,719 --> 00:17:40,119 - [Don] Music from other cultures 362 00:17:40,199 --> 00:17:44,599 has a romantic flair and is kinda exotic. 363 00:17:44,679 --> 00:17:49,199 So for the Rolling Stones, being teenagers in England, 364 00:17:49,279 --> 00:17:54,279 getting their hands on authentic American blues records, 365 00:17:54,759 --> 00:17:57,839 authentic American folk records, country records, 366 00:17:57,919 --> 00:18:02,199 it carried with it this whole romantic gravitas. 367 00:18:05,079 --> 00:18:06,999 - The thing about the blues 368 00:18:07,079 --> 00:18:10,079 is it felt like it was coming from some other place. 369 00:18:11,279 --> 00:18:15,279 And it's much more raucous, it's much more heart-felt, 370 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,879 it's much more vivacious, 371 00:18:17,959 --> 00:18:21,319 it's not being filtered through all these things. 372 00:18:21,399 --> 00:18:23,679 - That's what kind of made us jealous in England. 373 00:18:23,759 --> 00:18:26,359 As I say, "Man, these cats have got, 374 00:18:26,439 --> 00:18:28,719 "they've got a long stretch on us 375 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:31,199 "and there's a lot of catching-up to do." 376 00:18:33,439 --> 00:18:35,719 - It was just a fascinating journey, 377 00:18:35,799 --> 00:18:39,799 and as presumptuous 18 year old white kids would say, 378 00:18:39,879 --> 00:18:42,519 "We're gonna be the best blues band in London." 379 00:18:42,599 --> 00:18:44,399 (teens screaming) 380 00:18:44,479 --> 00:18:47,239 - [Brian] Robert Plant said it to me best, 381 00:18:47,319 --> 00:18:50,479 he said "You know, Brian, these white boys 382 00:18:50,559 --> 00:18:53,719 "got a hold of American black music and gave it fist." 383 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:57,919 - The Rolling Stones! (cheers erupt) 384 00:18:57,999 --> 00:19:00,279 ♪ Say the joint was a-rockin' ♪ 385 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,919 ♪ Going round and round ♪ 386 00:19:02,999 --> 00:19:05,439 ♪ Yeah, reelin' and rockin' ♪ 387 00:19:05,519 --> 00:19:07,999 ♪ What a crazy sound ♪ 388 00:19:08,079 --> 00:19:09,999 ♪ But they never stop rockin' ♪ 389 00:19:10,079 --> 00:19:12,279 - [Marshall] I saw that whole thing go down, man, 390 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,359 with the white blues. 391 00:19:14,679 --> 00:19:16,159 The English were ahead of it. 392 00:19:16,239 --> 00:19:18,439 They spread it. 393 00:19:18,519 --> 00:19:19,599 ♪ I rose out of my seat ♪ 394 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:21,239 - [Don] There was something really different about it. 395 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:23,119 ♪ Just had to dance ♪ 396 00:19:23,199 --> 00:19:27,279 - [Don] There was like this undulating rhythm happening 397 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,239 and it was sexually charged. 398 00:19:29,319 --> 00:19:30,959 ♪ Say the joint was a-rockin' ♪ 399 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:33,319 ♪ Going round and round ♪ 400 00:19:33,399 --> 00:19:35,719 ♪ Yeah, reelin' and rockin' ♪ 401 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:38,199 ♪ What a crazy sound ♪ 402 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:40,559 ♪ And they never stopped rockin' ♪ 403 00:19:40,639 --> 00:19:44,639 ♪ Till the Moon went down ♪ 404 00:19:44,719 --> 00:19:46,599 - [Keith] You're 18 and you're playing your blues, 405 00:19:46,679 --> 00:19:48,719 and within a matter of months, 406 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:51,279 women are trying to tear your clothes off 407 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,719 and they're jumping off of balconies. 408 00:19:53,799 --> 00:19:56,319 This is not quite what I had in mind. 409 00:19:57,159 --> 00:19:58,479 It was mayhem. 410 00:19:58,559 --> 00:20:01,399 (teens screaming) 411 00:20:11,679 --> 00:20:14,119 - [Joe] They were really good. 412 00:20:14,199 --> 00:20:15,039 My god! 413 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,439 As a band, they were really good. 414 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:21,319 ♪ Yeah the place was packed ♪ 415 00:20:21,399 --> 00:20:22,159 ♪ And when the police knocked ♪ 416 00:20:22,239 --> 00:20:24,039 - [Joe] They had this charisma. 417 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:29,039 They were so cool and really didn't give a fuck. 418 00:20:29,999 --> 00:20:31,679 That was their attitude on stage. 419 00:20:31,759 --> 00:20:33,439 ♪ Reelin' and a-rockin' ♪ 420 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:35,839 ♪ What a crazy sound ♪ 421 00:20:35,919 --> 00:20:38,239 ♪ But you never stopped rockin' ♪ 422 00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:40,879 ♪ Till the Moon went down ♪ 423 00:20:40,959 --> 00:20:42,919 ♪ Said the joint was a-rockin' ♪ 424 00:20:42,999 --> 00:20:45,559 ♪ Going round and round ♪ 425 00:20:45,639 --> 00:20:47,799 ♪ Yeah, reelin' and a-rockin' ♪ 426 00:20:47,879 --> 00:20:50,159 ♪ What a crazy sound ♪ 427 00:20:50,239 --> 00:20:52,519 ♪ But you never stopped rockin' ♪ 428 00:20:52,599 --> 00:20:56,079 ♪ Till the Moon went down ♪ 429 00:20:56,999 --> 00:21:01,839 - [Bob] The Stones represented a danger, 430 00:21:01,919 --> 00:21:05,799 a teenage danger that we hadn't really experienced before. 431 00:21:17,159 --> 00:21:19,679 - [Don] They were definitely different 432 00:21:19,759 --> 00:21:21,759 than, say, the Beatles. 433 00:21:22,199 --> 00:21:24,399 The Beatles were there to entertain you. 434 00:21:25,679 --> 00:21:28,039 These guys came for your daughters. 435 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,399 (chuckles) 436 00:21:33,199 --> 00:21:34,559 - [Narrator] The Rolling Stones connect 437 00:21:34,639 --> 00:21:39,199 with a post-war generation eager for new music. 438 00:21:39,279 --> 00:21:42,279 But the key to their success is a reverence 439 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,759 for a blues sound steeped in history. 440 00:21:44,839 --> 00:21:47,359 (bluesy guitar strumming) 441 00:21:47,439 --> 00:21:48,839 - [Keith] We did it through researching, 442 00:21:48,919 --> 00:21:51,639 getting really soaked up in the blues. 443 00:21:51,719 --> 00:21:55,519 We wanted to find out where the funkiest, 444 00:21:55,599 --> 00:21:58,719 swampiest damn stuff came from. 445 00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:05,199 - [Don] Keith Richards' choice of listening music 446 00:22:05,279 --> 00:22:07,679 is a great musicology course for anybody. 447 00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:10,279 ("Hobo Blues" by John Lee Hooker) 448 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,199 - [Bob] He had a sort of evangelical drive 449 00:22:13,279 --> 00:22:15,679 to expose people to the blues. 450 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:20,759 ♪ When I first thought to hobo'in, hobo'in, boy ♪ 451 00:22:23,439 --> 00:22:28,439 ♪ I took a freight train to be my friend, oh Lord ♪ 452 00:22:28,999 --> 00:22:31,319 - [Lisa] We would have a lot of listening sessions 453 00:22:31,399 --> 00:22:35,159 in Keith's room, with just all this great black music, 454 00:22:35,239 --> 00:22:36,599 and I think the Rolling Stones 455 00:22:36,679 --> 00:22:39,439 were actually tapping into that... 456 00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:42,599 ♪ You know I hobo'd, hobo'd, hobo'd ♪ 457 00:22:42,679 --> 00:22:45,719 - [Lisa] and expressing it in their way... 458 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:50,679 is the evolution of the music as it should be. 459 00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:52,479 ♪ Oh yeah ♪ 460 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,839 - [T Bone] I think the whole wave of music 461 00:22:54,919 --> 00:22:59,439 that came out of England in the mid-1960s 462 00:22:59,519 --> 00:23:02,719 was a reflection of the best 463 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:07,839 of what we had cooked up over here over the last 50 years. 464 00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:08,679 ♪ Long time ago ♪ 465 00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:12,199 (blues guitar strumming) 466 00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:16,039 - [T Bone] They embraced it in the most beautiful way. 467 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,919 They honored that music. 468 00:23:17,999 --> 00:23:22,999 ♪ I left home that mornin' ♪ 469 00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:26,319 ♪ My mother followed me down to that ♪ 470 00:23:26,399 --> 00:23:27,959 - [Keith] Being in America to find out 471 00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:29,639 that what we'd heard in England 472 00:23:29,719 --> 00:23:32,519 was only the tip of an iceberg 473 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:36,079 and that you could burrow far deeper, 474 00:23:36,159 --> 00:23:38,679 and that, for every guy that you knew about, 475 00:23:38,759 --> 00:23:41,719 there were 10 others, easily as good. 476 00:23:43,719 --> 00:23:46,359 - [Lisa] The music and the beat and the sounds 477 00:23:46,439 --> 00:23:48,439 came from the motherland. 478 00:23:49,279 --> 00:23:51,799 The black experience that is soulful, 479 00:23:51,879 --> 00:23:56,759 that has a cry, that has a deep understanding, 480 00:23:56,839 --> 00:24:01,119 that touches hearts, that communicates deeply. 481 00:24:01,199 --> 00:24:03,359 (humming) 482 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,759 The Rolling Stones took it and ran and made it their own. 483 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,639 ♪ Next time I start to hoboin' ♪ 484 00:24:14,719 --> 00:24:18,999 ♪ I'm gonna have my baby by my side ♪ 485 00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:21,399 ♪ And then you know my night ♪ 486 00:24:21,479 --> 00:24:22,959 ♪ Ain't gonna be so alone ♪ 487 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:25,999 - We were just a bunch of guys that loved our music, 488 00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:27,919 were obsessed with our music, 489 00:24:27,999 --> 00:24:31,959 but in our English fantasy of America in the '50s, 490 00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:34,839 it just sort of pulled you and called you. 491 00:24:39,399 --> 00:24:42,559 It was the place to be if you wanted to be a musician. 492 00:24:43,759 --> 00:24:46,759 - Now, something for the youngsters. 493 00:24:46,839 --> 00:24:48,519 Five singin' boys from England 494 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:50,599 who've sold a lot of albums, 495 00:24:50,679 --> 00:24:52,879 they're called the Rolling Stones. 496 00:24:52,959 --> 00:24:55,359 I've been rolled while I was stoned myself. 497 00:24:55,439 --> 00:24:57,079 (audience laughs) 498 00:24:57,159 --> 00:24:59,679 so I don't know what they're singing about, but 499 00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:00,719 (audience laughs) 500 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:01,639 here they are! 501 00:25:01,719 --> 00:25:04,439 (audience claps) 502 00:25:07,719 --> 00:25:11,319 ♪ I don't want you be no slave ♪ 503 00:25:11,399 --> 00:25:15,519 ♪ I don't want you work all day ♪ 504 00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:18,999 ♪ But I want you to be true ♪ 505 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:23,119 ♪ And I just wanna make love to you, baby ♪ 506 00:25:23,199 --> 00:25:25,199 ♪ Love to you, baby ♪ 507 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,159 ♪ Sweet love to you, baby ♪ 508 00:25:27,239 --> 00:25:29,359 ♪ Love to you, yeah I can ♪ 509 00:25:29,439 --> 00:25:34,279 ♪ Tell by the way that you twitch and walk ♪ 510 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,079 ♪ I can see by the way that you baby talk ♪ 511 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:40,159 - [T Bone] The Rolling Stones sang our music back to us 512 00:25:40,239 --> 00:25:42,239 but they were singing with us. 513 00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:44,799 I never felt that they were singing to us. 514 00:25:44,879 --> 00:25:47,759 I felt like they wanted to be one of us. 515 00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:48,879 I welcomed them. 516 00:25:48,959 --> 00:25:50,399 I think we all welcomed them. 517 00:25:50,479 --> 00:25:52,679 ♪ I don't want you make my bed ♪ 518 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:56,479 ♪ I don't want you to be true ♪ 519 00:25:56,559 --> 00:26:00,319 ♪ I just wanna make love to you, baby ♪ 520 00:26:00,399 --> 00:26:02,559 ♪ Love to you, baby ♪ 521 00:26:02,639 --> 00:26:04,559 ♪ Sweet love to you, baby ♪ 522 00:26:04,639 --> 00:26:06,479 ♪ Love to you, baby ♪ 523 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:08,319 ♪ Love to you, baby ♪ 524 00:26:08,399 --> 00:26:11,999 ♪ I wanna make love to you ♪ 525 00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:21,279 (mournful guitar twanging) 526 00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:26,999 - [Taj] I was really excited 527 00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:29,999 that somebody felt in love with this music 528 00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:33,559 as much as I did, and would dedicate their lives 529 00:26:33,639 --> 00:26:37,079 to playing it and exposing people to it. 530 00:26:39,559 --> 00:26:43,279 Some people thought they might have been appropriating 531 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,639 or this, that, or the other thing. 532 00:26:44,719 --> 00:26:48,199 "Well, excuse me, it's right here in your backyard 533 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:50,559 "and I don't see you doing anything about it." 534 00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:55,279 - [Reporter] Because it's been said 535 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,959 that the Rolling Stones gave black music 536 00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:58,639 back to the Americans. 537 00:26:58,719 --> 00:27:00,719 How do you feel all these black musicians feel 538 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:02,559 about the Stones? 539 00:27:02,639 --> 00:27:05,559 - I mean, I know people like Muddy Waters, et cetera, 540 00:27:05,639 --> 00:27:07,639 are really grateful for... 541 00:27:08,959 --> 00:27:10,839 Really, I mean, we did very little. 542 00:27:10,919 --> 00:27:12,879 All we said was that we dug Muddy Waters 543 00:27:12,959 --> 00:27:17,119 which happened to have a lot of an effect for him 544 00:27:17,199 --> 00:27:18,719 in his own way. 545 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:19,919 It means more bread for him 546 00:27:19,999 --> 00:27:23,039 because he got onto the white college circuit and things, 547 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,159 which wouldn't have happened and things like that. 548 00:27:25,239 --> 00:27:26,719 But we weren't the only ones to do that. 549 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:27,799 Every English band in the '60s 550 00:27:27,879 --> 00:27:31,759 that went to America, came there and said 551 00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:34,359 "Well, we got our music from black records." 552 00:27:35,879 --> 00:27:39,599 (guitar snarling) (fans screaming) 553 00:27:39,679 --> 00:27:41,839 - [Keith] This is way beyond our dreams 554 00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:45,599 of being the biggest R&B band in London. 555 00:27:45,679 --> 00:27:48,239 Muddy Waters has suddenly got a hit record again. 556 00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:49,999 John Lee Hooker is on the charts. 557 00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:52,679 Slim Harpo, and all of these people 558 00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:57,039 that were totally unknown two years before. 559 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,639 And we felt very proud of them. 560 00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:01,119 I mean, Jesus, what a mantle we carried. 561 00:28:01,199 --> 00:28:03,839 I still get a nice warm glow out of 562 00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:06,999 turning everybody back onto their own stuff. 563 00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:09,879 To find yourself on the bill with Muddy Waters, 564 00:28:11,439 --> 00:28:12,199 "Whoo! 565 00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:14,039 "Victory is ours!" 566 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,119 It was cool. 567 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,439 - [Narrator] A reworking of music that was already American 568 00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:25,759 helps the Stones storm the States and the world. 569 00:28:26,679 --> 00:28:28,639 In just a matter of months, 570 00:28:28,719 --> 00:28:31,239 their sound and image are No.1 571 00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:34,639 on both sides of the Atlantic. 572 00:28:34,719 --> 00:28:38,039 (blues guitar twanging) 573 00:28:40,999 --> 00:28:44,839 - [Keith] We felt that it was a gift, coming to America. 574 00:28:44,919 --> 00:28:49,919 I mean, suddenly to be transplanted from some wannabe. 575 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:57,039 It was endlessly fascinating, America, after Dartford. 576 00:28:59,919 --> 00:29:03,239 We grew into it and music grew into us. 577 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:08,319 And America changed rapidly in '64/'65. 578 00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:14,439 White America, when we first came here, 579 00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:17,559 was incredibly old fashioned to us. 580 00:29:17,639 --> 00:29:19,919 Our idea of America was modernity. 581 00:29:19,999 --> 00:29:23,839 And once you got out there in the sticks, whoa! 582 00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:27,159 You realized the incredible gap there. 583 00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:34,559 - [Bob] America was the Holy Grail, it really, really was. 584 00:29:34,639 --> 00:29:39,519 And it was to do with not just wanting to be big in America, 585 00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:42,519 it was more that their fame and notoriety 586 00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:43,679 had given them an opportunity. 587 00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:47,639 It was like a laminate, a pass into American culture. 588 00:29:47,719 --> 00:29:49,519 And I think that was the thing with Keith. 589 00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:53,039 He saw the Stones as this amazing laminate 590 00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:58,119 into the fabric of what made American music what it was. 591 00:30:01,239 --> 00:30:02,679 - [Keith] I think it's the call. 592 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:05,959 But the Americans were still playing folk songs 593 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:08,119 and folk music, basically through country music, 594 00:30:08,199 --> 00:30:09,879 which always sounds like schmaltz 595 00:30:09,959 --> 00:30:10,879 to a lot of people, I know, 596 00:30:10,959 --> 00:30:13,759 but there's a lot of 'struth in country music. 597 00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:18,919 ("Wild Horses" by The Rolling Stones) 598 00:30:18,999 --> 00:30:20,639 - [Don] I actually think that the Rolling Stones 599 00:30:20,719 --> 00:30:22,399 are some of the first proponents 600 00:30:22,479 --> 00:30:24,639 of what's now called Americana music. 601 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:29,039 It's ironic, but you listen to something like "Wild Horses", 602 00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:31,439 that's a pretty eclectic blend 603 00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:34,359 of authentic American music styles 604 00:30:34,439 --> 00:30:36,559 that no one had really touched on before. 605 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:40,199 - [Sheryl] They've written some of the quintessential 606 00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:42,279 country songs, as far as I'm concerned. 607 00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:46,799 ♪ Childhood living ♪ 608 00:30:51,719 --> 00:30:52,639 ♪ Is easy to do ♪ - They're so much more 609 00:30:52,719 --> 00:30:54,559 than an R&B band, 610 00:30:54,639 --> 00:30:59,639 and they're also extremely brilliant pop song craftsmen. 611 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:02,639 ♪ The things you wanted ♪ - I think they took 612 00:31:02,719 --> 00:31:04,879 Jimmy Reed and Muddy Waters 613 00:31:04,959 --> 00:31:08,239 and George Jones and Merle Haggard 614 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:13,279 and brought it back to us with pop hooks. 615 00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:14,599 I don't know that there is a band 616 00:31:14,679 --> 00:31:17,319 that can write better hooks than the Rolling Stones. 617 00:31:18,439 --> 00:31:20,839 - [Joe] I love that the Stones can do that, 618 00:31:20,919 --> 00:31:25,879 that they can take stuff from their influences 619 00:31:25,959 --> 00:31:27,959 and do it their way. 620 00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:31,719 They translate it and do it their way. 621 00:31:32,639 --> 00:31:35,799 That's another wonderful thing they've taught me, 622 00:31:35,879 --> 00:31:40,879 is how to put a song together. 623 00:31:42,239 --> 00:31:47,239 ♪ Wild horses ♪ 624 00:31:48,199 --> 00:31:53,199 ♪ Couldn't drag me away ♪ 625 00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:01,039 ♪ Wild, wild horses ♪ 626 00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:05,079 ♪ Couldn't drag me away ♪ 627 00:32:05,159 --> 00:32:07,359 - [T Bone] One of the things people don't talk about 628 00:32:07,439 --> 00:32:08,959 or I don't hear talked about 629 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:11,399 is what a great songwriter Keith Richards is. 630 00:32:11,479 --> 00:32:16,479 I think it's because he's so known as a guitarist, 631 00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:19,399 and also because he's so known to be dissolute 632 00:32:19,479 --> 00:32:23,079 or whatever that beautiful thing is that he is, you know, 633 00:32:23,159 --> 00:32:26,999 that people I don't think have really recognized 634 00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,879 the extraordinary contribution that he's made 635 00:32:29,959 --> 00:32:31,279 through his song writing. 636 00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:33,599 ♪ The same ♪ 637 00:32:35,959 --> 00:32:38,119 - [Slash] I really remember a particular period 638 00:32:38,199 --> 00:32:42,959 as a really little guy from "Beggars Banquet", 639 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:46,679 "Let It Bleed", "Sticky Fingers", "Exile on Main St.", 640 00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:48,799 that was the period when the Stones 641 00:32:48,879 --> 00:32:51,199 was the background music of my life. 642 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:54,919 - [Ronnie] It just kind of adds another thread 643 00:32:54,999 --> 00:32:59,479 between this tapestry of this marvelous backlog 644 00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:02,679 of material that the Stones have. 645 00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:07,599 It's like, "Whoo! What a legacy!" 646 00:33:08,719 --> 00:33:11,399 And lucky dip, take a song. 647 00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:14,839 Pick it out. 648 00:33:20,679 --> 00:33:22,039 - [Narrator] It soon becomes clear, 649 00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:24,999 writing as well as performing smash hits 650 00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:26,439 is the name of the game 651 00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:29,639 if they want to be a new kind of musical superstar. 652 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,279 - We were working the clubs in London 653 00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:37,399 and the Beatles just came out and had a hit, "Love Me Do", 654 00:33:37,479 --> 00:33:39,759 and we said "Oh, man, what a great record." 655 00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:41,999 - [Mick] The Beatles suddenly explode 656 00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:46,599 and there you are going "Oh, yeah, but we're a blues band." 657 00:33:46,679 --> 00:33:49,079 And the Beatles changed this whole thing. 658 00:33:49,159 --> 00:33:51,279 - [Keith] And our job was to be 659 00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:55,119 like the premiere rhythm and blues band in London 660 00:33:55,199 --> 00:33:56,639 and we managed that. 661 00:33:56,719 --> 00:33:57,999 (chuckles) 662 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:03,079 But we had no idea of progressing beyond that stage. 663 00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:07,199 - Keith, he played the Beatles all the time. 664 00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:09,079 It was driving me absolutely batty. 665 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,839 And why he was playing the Beatles 666 00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:13,639 wasn't because he didn't want to listen to anything else. 667 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,399 Keith wanted to write these pop songs, 668 00:34:15,479 --> 00:34:17,959 because we're undeniably the blues band, 669 00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:23,039 but we knew we had to be a pop band. 670 00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:26,159 - We were just envious too, man. 671 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,799 I mean, they're doing what we want, you know, 672 00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:30,639 and they got it. 673 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:31,719 They can make records. 674 00:34:31,799 --> 00:34:34,639 The Holy Grail was to make records, 675 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,839 to be able to get into a studio. 676 00:34:36,919 --> 00:34:37,879 It was like diamonds. 677 00:34:37,959 --> 00:34:39,719 You'd think it was a gold mine, 678 00:34:39,799 --> 00:34:42,039 which, in a way, there was, you know what I mean? 679 00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:46,279 But you'd think you were invading Fort Knox 680 00:34:46,359 --> 00:34:47,479 just to make a record. 681 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:50,559 Without the Beatles, the Stones would never have been there. 682 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:54,399 The reason the Stones existed or made records 683 00:34:54,479 --> 00:34:59,479 was because the record industry couldn't afford 684 00:34:59,879 --> 00:35:02,119 to lose another Beatles. 685 00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:07,799 We'd never got in a recording studio without them. 686 00:35:08,799 --> 00:35:11,959 We would have sold our, and I probably did, sell my soul, 687 00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:13,839 just to be on tape, just to get on record, 688 00:35:13,919 --> 00:35:16,559 just to learn how records are made. 689 00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:23,559 Recording is, and still is to me, a most mysterious art. 690 00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:28,559 (blues guitar twanging) 691 00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:31,239 - [Jane] I think he could live in a studio. 692 00:35:31,319 --> 00:35:33,519 (chuckles) 693 00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,599 He just loves music. 694 00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:37,159 Music is always part of his life. 695 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,039 Music is always on. 696 00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:39,799 Music is always the backdrop of his life 697 00:35:39,879 --> 00:35:40,959 and the guitar is always there, 698 00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:43,159 the piano is always there. 699 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,239 He always has it right handy, whenever he wants it. 700 00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:49,559 But he loves the process. 701 00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:51,319 I think he loves the process more than anything. 702 00:35:51,399 --> 00:35:52,879 He loves developing a song. 703 00:35:52,959 --> 00:35:54,839 He likes to write in a studio. 704 00:35:54,919 --> 00:35:57,839 (blues piano music) 705 00:35:57,919 --> 00:36:00,359 - [Keith] It's a kid's dream come true. 706 00:36:00,439 --> 00:36:05,439 I mean, you are constantly living those moments of like, 707 00:36:06,399 --> 00:36:10,039 "I've got a guitar strapped on, I'm in Studio 2, 708 00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:12,119 "and we're cutting!" 709 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,799 And it is a surreal sensation, in a way. 710 00:36:18,879 --> 00:36:19,999 - [Glyn] Keith would come to the studio 711 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:21,679 and he'd have maybe half an idea 712 00:36:21,759 --> 00:36:23,439 and he'd sit and play it and play it 713 00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:25,199 and play it and play it on his own, 714 00:36:25,279 --> 00:36:27,399 and then when he'd got it almost into shape 715 00:36:27,479 --> 00:36:29,079 Bill and Charlie would sit with him 716 00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:30,079 and they'd play along with him 717 00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,719 to help him develop the riff into a song. 718 00:36:34,439 --> 00:36:39,439 - [Joe] The Stones have a great craft of song writing, 719 00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:43,999 and that is how to present it, 720 00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:47,719 how to record it so that it knocks your socks off 721 00:36:47,799 --> 00:36:49,799 and you go, "Whoa!" 722 00:36:50,799 --> 00:36:53,039 - [T Bone] What they've done is epic. 723 00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:55,039 The way they were able to weave 724 00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,759 these disparate elements together, 725 00:36:57,839 --> 00:36:59,239 it's a magic trick. 726 00:36:59,319 --> 00:37:01,679 - What you do is the job of a minstrel. 727 00:37:01,759 --> 00:37:05,879 Songs evolve, music evolves. 728 00:37:05,959 --> 00:37:08,479 - [Mick] Keith was not the purist of the band, 729 00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:10,679 a blues purist. 730 00:37:10,759 --> 00:37:12,799 Keith liked to write pop songs. 731 00:37:12,879 --> 00:37:14,919 He wrote lots and lots of pop songs 732 00:37:14,999 --> 00:37:18,799 "Ruby Tuesday", "As Tears Go By". 733 00:37:18,879 --> 00:37:21,119 He also wrote "Angie". 734 00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:23,839 I mean these are not blues songs as we know them. 735 00:37:23,919 --> 00:37:25,239 These are pop songs 736 00:37:25,319 --> 00:37:28,119 that emanate really from Keith, originally. 737 00:37:29,439 --> 00:37:32,039 - [Narrator] Keith's talent drives the band's success. 738 00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:32,879 ♪ Ah yeah ♪ 739 00:37:32,959 --> 00:37:33,999 - [Narrator] But he's a reluctant star... 740 00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:35,639 ♪ I love just to tell ya ♪ 741 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,919 - [Narrator] Struggling to handle the adoration 742 00:37:37,999 --> 00:37:40,119 and fame that engulfs the band. 743 00:37:42,399 --> 00:37:43,479 - [Keith] I'd have been quite happy 744 00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,639 to make all these records totally anonymously. 745 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,759 But then, of course, that's not possible, 746 00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:50,599 you know what I mean? 747 00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:53,079 Hey, you've got to get out there and put yourself out, 748 00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:54,319 and I learned how to do that, 749 00:37:54,399 --> 00:37:56,399 and I quite enjoyed it. 750 00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:00,479 But I guess my refuge was heroin, 751 00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,119 was drugs, 752 00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:04,439 and there I stayed as long as I could. 753 00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:07,799 - [Mick] Keith Richards on guitar. 754 00:38:07,879 --> 00:38:11,359 (bluesy guitar music) All right then, let's get on 755 00:38:11,439 --> 00:38:14,559 ♪ She drew out all her money out the Southern Trust ♪ 756 00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:17,599 ♪ And put a little boy aboard a Greyhound bus ♪ 757 00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:20,559 ♪ Leaving Louisiana for the Golden West ♪ 758 00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:22,319 - [Narrator] As his star rises, 759 00:38:22,399 --> 00:38:26,439 keeping up with Keith in the 1970s becomes a deadly game, 760 00:38:27,479 --> 00:38:29,359 and his addiction to heroin 761 00:38:29,439 --> 00:38:31,199 ultimately threatens the future of the band. 762 00:38:31,279 --> 00:38:34,199 ♪ Bye bye, bye bye ♪ 763 00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:37,239 - [Chrissie] The thing is most people 764 00:38:37,319 --> 00:38:38,719 are kind of shy and awkward 765 00:38:38,799 --> 00:38:40,599 and they wouldn't have got on a stage 766 00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:41,919 if they weren't loaded. 767 00:38:41,999 --> 00:38:46,319 So it works in your favor in the initial years. 768 00:38:46,399 --> 00:38:48,079 But when it starts working against you 769 00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:49,679 and you get addicted to the drugs, 770 00:38:49,759 --> 00:38:50,959 'cause they're addictive, 771 00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:52,479 then you have a problem. 772 00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:57,319 ("Bye Bye Johnny" by The Rolling Stones) 773 00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:29,319 ♪ She finally got the letter she was dreamin' of ♪ 774 00:39:29,399 --> 00:39:32,159 (music distorts) 775 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,719 - [Keith] Everybody's got a different metabolism, 776 00:39:39,799 --> 00:39:44,119 a different way of dealing with that amount of adoration. 777 00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,959 I just felt that as long as I kept myself to myself 778 00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:50,359 that there was no reason for them 779 00:39:50,439 --> 00:39:53,079 to make any big fuss about it. 780 00:39:54,279 --> 00:39:56,319 - [Narrator] Keith's transformation confirms him 781 00:39:56,399 --> 00:39:59,359 as an international icon of rebellion 782 00:39:59,439 --> 00:40:02,039 and a target for the authorities. 783 00:40:02,999 --> 00:40:05,079 Late in the winter of '77, 784 00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:07,159 Richards is in Toronto 785 00:40:09,479 --> 00:40:11,719 where the Rolling Stones are set to perform. 786 00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:24,239 - [Jane] We went to Toronto to do this concert. 787 00:40:24,319 --> 00:40:29,319 I remember when the police were walking up the staircase 788 00:40:31,479 --> 00:40:33,639 and wondering what that was all about. 789 00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:37,079 - [Narrator] The day before, 790 00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:38,999 Keith's girlfriend, Anita Pallenberg, 791 00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:41,239 arrived at Toronto Airport, 792 00:40:41,319 --> 00:40:43,999 and as the Canadian Police search her belongings, 793 00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:46,959 they find her in possession of hashish. 794 00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:49,999 An investigation begins that leads the police 795 00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,639 all the way to Keith's hotel room. 796 00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:57,319 - [Jane] Of course, he was found with drugs and heroin 797 00:40:57,399 --> 00:41:00,879 and all that kinda stuff because he had a habit at the time, 798 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:04,839 and the history of the Rolling Stones changed on a dime. 799 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:06,519 - [Newsreader] The Rolling Stones 800 00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:09,559 is one of the most famous rock groups in the world. 801 00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:11,599 A week ago, lead guitarist Keith Richards 802 00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:13,519 was charged with possession of heroin 803 00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:15,599 for the purpose of trafficking. 804 00:41:16,839 --> 00:41:18,079 - [Jane] It was actually terrifying, 805 00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:20,479 'cause he realized he was up for, 806 00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:22,679 it could be 20 years of prison. 807 00:41:24,399 --> 00:41:25,879 - [Keith] I think the reason I was taking it 808 00:41:25,959 --> 00:41:28,999 was how to deal with fame and pressure, 809 00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:31,359 and it's one way to run away. 810 00:41:31,439 --> 00:41:33,639 I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. 811 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,999 But there again, it's a person choice, I don't know. 812 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:37,639 And it's a rough old world 813 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,159 and sometimes you need something to blank it out. 814 00:41:41,759 --> 00:41:43,759 And it probably ain't worth a ride. 815 00:41:50,479 --> 00:41:53,999 It was the realization in Canada 816 00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:57,159 that I was actually jeopardizing the band, 817 00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:00,439 and if they were going to put me away, 818 00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:02,559 I mean it was bye-bye, you know. 819 00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:03,799 "If I get out of this 820 00:42:03,879 --> 00:42:06,199 "and don't have to cold turkey in jail, 821 00:42:06,279 --> 00:42:08,279 "I'm going to go and clean up." 822 00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:11,599 - [Jane] He just made a commitment, 823 00:42:11,679 --> 00:42:12,919 "I'm gonna get this together." 824 00:42:12,999 --> 00:42:17,279 Because at that point, it was music or drugs, 825 00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:19,999 and music was far more important than drugs. 826 00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:22,239 - [Reporter] How do you think this conviction 827 00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:23,879 is going to affect you and your music 828 00:42:23,959 --> 00:42:25,039 and the Rolling Stones? 829 00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:25,839 - Well, I don't know. 830 00:42:25,919 --> 00:42:27,919 I just want to get on with it, now that it's over, 831 00:42:27,999 --> 00:42:29,559 just get on with what I'm supposed to be doing, 832 00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:31,919 instead of worrying about this. 833 00:42:31,999 --> 00:42:34,439 - [Reporter] Do you think it will have any effect then? 834 00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:36,399 - I don't know, might get a song out of it. 835 00:42:36,479 --> 00:42:38,159 - [Man] House lights go, please, house lights go. 836 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,959 (crowd cheers) - Ladies and gentlemen! 837 00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:46,039 The Rolling Stones! (crowd roars) 838 00:42:52,279 --> 00:42:55,559 - [Narrator] It's not drugs, fashion or lifestyle choices 839 00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:57,639 that will define Keith's story. 840 00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:00,319 It's his talent, 841 00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:03,919 that marks him out as one of the most important 842 00:43:03,999 --> 00:43:06,679 and influential artists of our age. 843 00:43:11,319 --> 00:43:15,679 - [Don] Keith is all about feel and instinct. 844 00:43:15,759 --> 00:43:19,279 If he's writing a song, he may have two chords, 845 00:43:19,359 --> 00:43:21,239 and he's perfectly happy to sit there 846 00:43:21,319 --> 00:43:24,399 and play those two chords for two hours, 847 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,639 and he's just waiting for the next part of the song to come, 848 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,279 but he's not gonna force it. 849 00:43:30,359 --> 00:43:32,799 He's gonna just keep playing this mantra 850 00:43:32,879 --> 00:43:35,319 until something appears. 851 00:43:35,399 --> 00:43:37,399 And it always does. 852 00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:42,799 - [Keith] I really do like a striking intro to records, 853 00:43:42,879 --> 00:43:44,319 especially a rock and roll record, 854 00:43:44,399 --> 00:43:47,119 and I am talking about that particular format 855 00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:49,159 that if an intro can grab you, 856 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,919 you're gonna be in for at least a few more minutes, 857 00:43:51,999 --> 00:43:54,679 and if the riff behind that intro grabs you, 858 00:43:54,759 --> 00:43:57,279 then you've pretty much got 'em. 859 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,959 ("Gimme Shelter" by The Rolling Stones) 860 00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:04,039 - [Glyn] If you listen to the Rolling Stones records, 861 00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:07,519 Keith wrote some unbelievable intros. 862 00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:10,359 ♪ Oooh oooh oooh ♪ 863 00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:17,639 - [Joe] Every guitar player in the world went 864 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,079 "Wow! How did he do that?" 865 00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,119 Well, he took off one string. 866 00:44:23,199 --> 00:44:24,639 - [Keith] There's five strings. 867 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,719 I take the bottom string goes off, 868 00:44:26,799 --> 00:44:30,199 and then you tune the rest of the strings 869 00:44:30,279 --> 00:44:32,239 to the chord of G. 870 00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:33,599 - [Tom] That tuning of his, 871 00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:36,279 there's something menacing about that, 872 00:44:36,359 --> 00:44:39,519 just to weave that in the center of the groove. 873 00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:43,959 - [Joe] That is a brilliant guitar sound. 874 00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:47,359 It says so much with so little. 875 00:44:47,439 --> 00:44:49,439 Holy smokes! 876 00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:52,839 - There is something about the intonation 877 00:44:52,919 --> 00:44:54,959 of the notes, the separation and the point, 878 00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:56,279 and I would say almost mystical 879 00:44:56,359 --> 00:44:59,599 that when hit in the right way in the right moment, 880 00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:01,439 a cheap ride to heaven. 881 00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:05,239 ♪ My very life today ♪ 882 00:45:05,319 --> 00:45:09,359 ♪ If I don't get some shelter ♪ 883 00:45:09,439 --> 00:45:13,319 ♪ Oh yeah, I'm gonna fade away ♪ 884 00:45:13,399 --> 00:45:15,799 ♪ War, children ♪ 885 00:45:15,879 --> 00:45:16,999 - Silence is your canvas for a musician, 886 00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:20,359 and it's how much you fill in the canvas 887 00:45:20,439 --> 00:45:22,679 and how much light you let through, 888 00:45:22,759 --> 00:45:25,639 which is something you really don't know yet, 889 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,639 it's almost intuitive. 890 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,119 You do it by feel, really, on instinct. 891 00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:34,039 (guitar twanging) 892 00:45:37,999 --> 00:45:40,439 ♪ Ooh, see the fire is sweepin' ♪ 893 00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:41,279 - [Bonnie] There's a Keith Richards sound 894 00:45:41,359 --> 00:45:44,599 and a Keith Richards approach to the guitar 895 00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:46,679 that just is unlike anything 896 00:45:46,759 --> 00:45:49,399 that I've ever heard from anyone else. 897 00:45:49,479 --> 00:45:51,279 There's a certain type of way that he plays 898 00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:55,119 in the middle of the neck and a certain hammering, slashing. 899 00:45:55,199 --> 00:45:58,519 ♪ War, children, it's just a shot away ♪ 900 00:45:58,599 --> 00:45:59,519 - I just love riffs. 901 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:03,679 I just love a great connection of notes 902 00:46:03,759 --> 00:46:05,959 that can repeat themselves over and over 903 00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:09,239 without being monotonous, without being boring. 904 00:46:09,319 --> 00:46:11,359 And that's what a good riff is. 905 00:46:11,439 --> 00:46:14,239 It's the same old thing but it keeps changing. 906 00:46:18,439 --> 00:46:20,839 - [Brian] People will still be trying to play 907 00:46:20,919 --> 00:46:23,959 what he plays 50 years from now. 908 00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:26,039 There won't be another. 909 00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:35,839 - [Don] It's tough to characterize 910 00:46:35,919 --> 00:46:37,919 Keith Richards' guitar playing. 911 00:46:38,799 --> 00:46:43,359 I believe it's a really organic extension 912 00:46:43,439 --> 00:46:46,399 of who he is, of his soul. 913 00:46:46,479 --> 00:46:48,439 It's no different than speaking, 914 00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:50,479 it's no different than walking. 915 00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:54,159 It's just a musical manifestation of who he is. 916 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,959 And not all musicians are like that. 917 00:46:58,879 --> 00:47:03,359 - Keith's always known what he wants on the guitar. 918 00:47:03,439 --> 00:47:08,039 The way he plays is he establishes the sound first 919 00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:10,079 with Pierre, his guitar tech, 920 00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:15,079 and various ways of achieving the desired effect. 921 00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:18,239 ♪ Mm, this flood is threat'ning ♪ 922 00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:20,599 - This is where he picks. 923 00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:22,639 It's so worn out that some of the dots have come out. 924 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,719 He's lost a tooth here. 925 00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:27,799 But this actually looks scalloped but it's not, 926 00:47:27,879 --> 00:47:29,479 it's just for how worn out it is. 927 00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:31,799 He's actually wearing out the finger-board here, 928 00:47:31,879 --> 00:47:36,679 and that's typical of where he strums up in this region. 929 00:47:36,759 --> 00:47:38,959 It's great when you see the person 930 00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:40,559 that you've listened to so many years ago 931 00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:43,159 still having a relationship with their instrument. 932 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,399 You've got 5 strings, there's only 3 notes 933 00:47:47,479 --> 00:47:50,079 because there's two doubles, two sets of Ds, 934 00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:52,159 two sets of Gs and a B. 935 00:47:52,479 --> 00:47:56,239 So the way it rings, the way certain things ring, 936 00:47:56,319 --> 00:47:58,319 you don't hear that on a normal guitar. 937 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,239 It's definitely not about filling it up. 938 00:48:02,839 --> 00:48:05,679 If you're still thinking about what you can add 939 00:48:05,759 --> 00:48:08,319 instead of what you need to take away, 940 00:48:08,399 --> 00:48:11,079 you're still at the beginning stages. 941 00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:13,279 - I didn't want to be a guitar player, 942 00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:15,999 I wanted to make noise, 943 00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:19,839 and if it took using a guitar to do it, I'd do it. 944 00:48:19,919 --> 00:48:24,479 I became a pretty good one in some respects. 945 00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:25,919 And I suppose really I'm saying 946 00:48:25,999 --> 00:48:29,679 that I use the guitar really as a percussion instrument. 947 00:48:29,759 --> 00:48:31,599 It's a rhythm thing for me. 948 00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:34,399 I do love playing solos, 949 00:48:34,479 --> 00:48:35,919 but I've always have said to myself, 950 00:48:35,999 --> 00:48:39,839 "Look, solos come and go, a riff lasts forever." 951 00:48:41,279 --> 00:48:43,319 (laughs) 952 00:48:43,399 --> 00:48:45,279 - Cut, you know, it sort of rounds it off. 953 00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:47,159 Doesn't sound wrong if it doesn't rhyme. 954 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,239 That was a quick one, Andrew. 955 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:50,879 - [Andrew] Really? 956 00:48:50,959 --> 00:48:53,399 (indistinct) 957 00:48:54,799 --> 00:48:59,799 ♪ Ba ba ba, ba-ba, ba-ba ba ba ♪ 958 00:49:00,959 --> 00:49:02,919 ♪ Won't you love ♪ 959 00:49:02,999 --> 00:49:05,559 - Mick and I, in those days, used to sit around 960 00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:07,759 with guitars and we'd write. 961 00:49:07,839 --> 00:49:08,599 That's what we did. 962 00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:12,119 ♪ I know you find it hard ♪ 963 00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:16,959 ♪ To reason at me ♪ 964 00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:21,919 ♪ But this time it's different, girl ♪ 965 00:49:21,999 --> 00:49:24,759 ♪ Darlin', you'll see ♪ 966 00:49:24,839 --> 00:49:28,879 ♪ You gotta tell me you're comin' back to me ♪ 967 00:49:28,959 --> 00:49:31,039 - Writing songs and making records, 968 00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:33,399 it's like a jigsaw puzzle. 969 00:49:33,479 --> 00:49:36,479 There's always that thing of not quite knowing 970 00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:38,559 what's going to come up next. 971 00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:42,759 When it all locks into position, 972 00:49:42,839 --> 00:49:46,039 it is quite an incredible sensation, 973 00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:48,599 and everybody that's involved 974 00:49:48,679 --> 00:49:51,359 in doing that when it's happening, 975 00:49:51,439 --> 00:49:52,199 knows that, for a moment, 976 00:49:52,279 --> 00:49:55,879 you're in a special place, a special time 977 00:49:55,959 --> 00:49:58,639 and you feel, 978 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,439 actually, in a way, you feel very privileged 979 00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:02,519 to actually be there. 980 00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:08,399 - [Sheryl] Every great song is born of conversation. 981 00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:11,759 It really takes the two of them 982 00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:14,799 to create that synergy and that energy. 983 00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:18,519 I mean, they're the perfect Yin and Yang. 984 00:50:18,599 --> 00:50:20,439 Mick is the guy that brings it, 985 00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:22,559 Keith is the guy that holds it down. 986 00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:27,159 That rhythm is undeniable. 987 00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:32,359 I mean, he's the guy that took Chuck Berry 988 00:50:32,439 --> 00:50:34,999 and took Johnnie Johnson's whole thing 989 00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:37,919 and brought it to a rock guitar in an open tuning. 990 00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:42,159 You can write great songs with people, 991 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,479 but when there is a dynamic there 992 00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:47,599 that's bigger than the two of you, 993 00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:49,679 that's where the great stuff lives. 994 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,119 - [Jon] It's the kind of a band 995 00:50:53,199 --> 00:50:57,839 that was built on "we", not "me". 996 00:50:57,919 --> 00:51:02,919 It took the chemistry of all of them to make it work. 997 00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:09,079 - [Mick] You can't say, "Oh, if I wrote 'Angie'," 998 00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:11,799 It's like, "Listen to this," and Keith would say 999 00:51:11,879 --> 00:51:12,959 "That's a load of shit, I wanna write blues." 1000 00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:14,679 No, it's the other way round. 1001 00:51:14,759 --> 00:51:17,999 It's Keith saying "Listen to this melody." 1002 00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:21,639 And I'm going, I could say, 1003 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,799 "That's not the blues, 1004 00:51:23,879 --> 00:51:28,639 "that's bordering saccharine ballads." 1005 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,719 But I didn't say that, of course, 1006 00:51:29,799 --> 00:51:30,839 it's a very beautiful song. 1007 00:51:30,919 --> 00:51:32,239 So what I'm trying to say is 1008 00:51:32,319 --> 00:51:34,999 that the Rolling Stones were many, many things. 1009 00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:37,399 And one of the good things about the Rolling Stones 1010 00:51:37,479 --> 00:51:40,199 is that they embrace a lot of kinds of music. 1011 00:51:40,279 --> 00:51:41,719 Yes, they're a blues band. 1012 00:51:41,799 --> 00:51:43,399 Yes, they're a rock band. 1013 00:51:43,479 --> 00:51:45,279 Yes, they did things like "Paint It Black". 1014 00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:47,719 Yes, they did like classic rock. 1015 00:51:47,799 --> 00:51:49,519 Yes, they did dance songs. 1016 00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:51,839 You have to push innovation a bit sometimes 1017 00:51:51,919 --> 00:51:52,839 because people get older, 1018 00:51:52,919 --> 00:51:54,919 they just want to stick at one thing. 1019 00:51:57,679 --> 00:51:59,639 - [Bob] I think with Mick and Keith, 1020 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,919 over the years, they have an acceptance 1021 00:52:02,999 --> 00:52:04,639 and a total respect for each other, 1022 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,239 in terms of what they both bring to the band. 1023 00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:10,839 And I think it's valid, actually, 1024 00:52:10,919 --> 00:52:12,599 to think that Mick has always been 1025 00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:15,199 the one driving them forward, 1026 00:52:15,279 --> 00:52:17,119 it's always been Keith that's been aware 1027 00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:20,079 of a credibility of the music they're making, 1028 00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:23,799 to make sure it continues to be rooted. 1029 00:52:25,439 --> 00:52:28,559 Keith had said "Listen, we are still this blues band, 1030 00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:30,919 "irrespective of the pyrotechnics 1031 00:52:30,999 --> 00:52:34,079 "and 200,000 people in the audience, 1032 00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:36,119 "we're still that band that played the Marquee 1033 00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:38,879 "in 1962 to 100 people". 1034 00:52:40,279 --> 00:52:41,719 That is Keith looking back 1035 00:52:41,799 --> 00:52:45,759 and holding onto that rare musical depth 1036 00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:47,319 and Mick propelling the band 1037 00:52:47,399 --> 00:52:50,039 into whatever the future may bring for them. 1038 00:52:50,119 --> 00:52:53,239 ("Sympathy for the Devil" by the Rolling Stones) 1039 00:52:53,319 --> 00:52:55,999 (audience chanting ooh-ooh) 1040 00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:58,079 - [Keith] If it comes out of the Rolling Stones, 1041 00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:00,119 it's the Rolling Stones. 1042 00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:03,279 Now and again, Mick and I have come up with a song 1043 00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:06,239 and then looked at each other and said, 1044 00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:08,719 "No, not the Stones; no, no." 1045 00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:13,519 ♪ Please allow me to introduce myself ♪ 1046 00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:15,879 ♪ I'm a man of wealth and taste ♪ 1047 00:53:15,959 --> 00:53:17,479 - [Narrator] There are few song writing partnerships 1048 00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:20,239 to match Jagger and Richards, 1049 00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:22,999 and despite their fair share of disagreements, 1050 00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:26,799 their relationship has endured against all the odds. 1051 00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:31,319 ♪ And I was 'round when Jesus Christ ♪ 1052 00:53:31,399 --> 00:53:36,119 ♪ Had his moment of doubt and pain ♪ 1053 00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:40,519 - [Slash] You had this image of those two guys 1054 00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:43,359 being the first real example 1055 00:53:43,439 --> 00:53:46,959 of a lead singer/lead guitar player relationship. 1056 00:53:48,879 --> 00:53:50,079 ♪ Pleased to meet you ♪ 1057 00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:55,159 ♪ Hope you guess my name ♪ 1058 00:53:56,359 --> 00:53:58,919 ♪ What's puzzling you is just the ♪ 1059 00:53:58,999 --> 00:54:03,999 ♪ Nature of my game ♪ 1060 00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:08,039 ♪ Stuck around St. Petersburg ♪ 1061 00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:10,039 - [Marshall] Mick wanted to be the leader. 1062 00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:12,119 He's the leader of the pack. 1063 00:54:12,879 --> 00:54:15,439 Keith doesn't give a fuck about being the leader 1064 00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:17,519 but he thinks he really is. 1065 00:54:18,439 --> 00:54:20,199 - [Jane] They're completely different. 1066 00:54:20,279 --> 00:54:21,879 Mick wants to try new things, 1067 00:54:21,959 --> 00:54:25,839 he is very much part of whatever's going on. 1068 00:54:25,919 --> 00:54:27,919 Keith is technophobic. 1069 00:54:28,959 --> 00:54:31,039 That is one of the things 1070 00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:33,799 that still makes the edge between them. 1071 00:54:33,879 --> 00:54:34,639 They all have separate lives, 1072 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,159 separate identities, 1073 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,879 and musically they're Yin and Yang. 1074 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,479 - [Chuck] They're joined at the hip. 1075 00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:45,199 Has there been times when the disagreements have flared up? 1076 00:54:45,279 --> 00:54:46,519 Of course there has. 1077 00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:48,479 But I think you take a deep breath, 1078 00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:49,679 you look at each other and say, 1079 00:54:49,759 --> 00:54:51,959 "Wait a minute, last time I checked, 1080 00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:54,479 "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts." 1081 00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:56,599 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ 1082 00:54:56,679 --> 00:54:58,839 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ 1083 00:54:58,919 --> 00:55:00,319 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ 1084 00:55:00,399 --> 00:55:02,159 - [Steve] Even at times when Mick and Keith 1085 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,159 weren't at their best, relationship-wise, 1086 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,239 I would dare you to get between them. 1087 00:55:07,999 --> 00:55:11,679 There's a bond there that can't be broken. 1088 00:55:11,759 --> 00:55:13,319 - [Keith] To do it for this long, 1089 00:55:13,399 --> 00:55:14,999 Mick and I both look at each other and say, 1090 00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:17,799 "We must be doing something right." 1091 00:55:17,879 --> 00:55:19,879 I don't know what it is. 1092 00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:23,839 The idea of turning people on for 60 years 1093 00:55:23,919 --> 00:55:25,999 is like whoa! 1094 00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:30,559 But the thing is relentless. 1095 00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:33,119 It's like being a juggernaut. 1096 00:55:33,199 --> 00:55:37,999 ♪ Hope you guess my name ♪ 1097 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:40,159 ♪ What's confusing you is just a ♪ 1098 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,239 - [Jane] You see them walk to the stage, these older guys, 1099 00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:46,159 and they climb the stairs. 1100 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:50,599 Each stair, another piece of energy comes up, 1101 00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:53,639 and then they go out. 1102 00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:56,519 It's like a shot of lightning. 1103 00:55:56,599 --> 00:55:57,959 ♪ As heads is tails ♪ 1104 00:55:58,039 --> 00:55:59,079 ♪ Call me Lucifer ♪ 1105 00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:00,639 - [Jane] It's like going to Never-Never Land. 1106 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,759 ♪ 'Cause I'm in need of some restraint ♪ 1107 00:56:04,839 --> 00:56:06,559 ♪ So if you meet me ♪ 1108 00:56:06,639 --> 00:56:08,879 ♪ Have some courtesy ♪ 1109 00:56:08,959 --> 00:56:12,519 ♪ Sympathy, and some taste ♪ 1110 00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:15,439 - [Joyce] The music comes first. 1111 00:56:15,519 --> 00:56:18,599 Writing, recording, performing music. 1112 00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:20,679 That's where they're at. 1113 00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:25,439 When they finally step off the stage for the last time, 1114 00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:28,239 we will all know that we shall never see 1115 00:56:28,319 --> 00:56:30,319 anything like that ever again. 1116 00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:37,079 ♪ What's confusing y'all's just the ♪ 1117 00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:41,959 ♪ Nature of my game, yeah ♪ 1118 00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:43,839 ♪ Deliver ♪ 1119 00:56:43,919 --> 00:56:45,759 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ ♪ Come on ♪ 1120 00:56:45,839 --> 00:56:47,719 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ ♪ Yeah ♪ 1121 00:56:47,799 --> 00:56:49,999 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ ♪ Yeah ♪ 1122 00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:52,159 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ 1123 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,439 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ 1124 00:56:54,519 --> 00:56:56,519 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ 1125 00:56:56,599 --> 00:56:58,759 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ 1126 00:56:58,839 --> 00:57:01,079 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ 1127 00:57:01,159 --> 00:57:03,239 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ 1128 00:57:03,319 --> 00:57:05,279 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ 1129 00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:07,159 ♪ Ooh ooh ♪ 1130 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:08,359 - [Keith] I mean, God knows what I'd have been like 1131 00:57:08,439 --> 00:57:09,919 if I didn't do this. 1132 00:57:09,999 --> 00:57:11,999 My wildest nightmare. 1133 00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:16,639 Really, all you wanted to do is play music, 1134 00:57:16,719 --> 00:57:18,079 trying to get it better, 1135 00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:20,159 trying to get the band tighter. 1136 00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:23,159 (crowd cheers) 1137 00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:28,119 - [Mick] Woo wooh! 1138 00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:30,199 - Not many people get a chance to do this 1139 00:57:30,279 --> 00:57:33,279 with thousands of people, as a job. 1140 00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:39,879 (crowd chanting and cheering) 1141 00:57:46,799 --> 00:57:50,479 When you're exchanging that much appreciation to each other, 1142 00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:53,559 it is profoundly touching. 1143 00:57:57,039 --> 00:58:01,159 Music is a resilient thing and sometimes I think, 1144 00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:03,199 "God, it's the only thing we've got 1145 00:58:03,279 --> 00:58:05,279 "that we can trust, you know?" 1146 00:58:14,399 --> 00:58:15,599 I gave up many years ago 1147 00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:18,319 trying to analyze this bunch 1148 00:58:18,399 --> 00:58:20,399 and why it works and how it works. 1149 00:58:23,879 --> 00:58:24,919 And I found the best remedy 1150 00:58:24,999 --> 00:58:27,599 is to put them altogether in a room and say, 1151 00:58:27,679 --> 00:58:28,559 "Hey, it goes like this. 1152 00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:30,759 "One, two, three, four!" 1153 00:58:30,839 --> 00:58:32,879 And all the problems go away. 1154 00:58:32,959 --> 00:58:36,799 (crowd chanting and cheering)