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<i> Narrator: In ohio,</i>
<i> one of the most feared</i>

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<i> Serial killers</i>
<i> in recent memory</i>

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<i> Is shawn grate.</i>

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- I was the first one
to call him a serial killer.

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- Shawn likes to have power
and control over women.

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<i> Narrator: He preyed</i>
<i> on vulnerable women,</i>

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<i> Subjecting them to abduction,</i>
<i> battery, rape, and murder.</i>

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<i> - There was drugs involved,</i>

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<i> There was rape,</i>
<i> sexual assault.</i>

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- Shawn filmed the rapes.

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<i> Narrator: One woman knows</i>
<i> his past better than anyone.</i>

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- You realize that this person
that you grew up with,

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This person
that you've known from birth,

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<i> Is now a killer.</i>

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<i> Narrator: She blamed herself</i>
<i> for the killings.</i>

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- I felt partially responsible
for shawn's actions.

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<i> Could I have loved him more?</i>

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<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> What barbara didn't know</i>

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<i> Was that she was living</i>
<i> with a serial killer.</i>

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<i> ♪ ♪</i>

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<i> September 13, 2016.</i>

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<i> Ashland county, ohio.</i>

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<i> [suspenseful music]</i>

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<i> It's a quiet fall evening</i>
<i> when ashland county</i>

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<i> Emergency services receives</i>
<i> a chilling call.</i>

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<i> [line rings]</i>

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<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> Ashland police officers</i>

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<i> Are quickly dispatched.</i>

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<i> They arrive at the address</i>

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<i> And are forced to break in.</i>

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<i> [glass shatters]</i>

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<i> [door banging]</i>

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<i> Narrator: The officers enter,</i>
<i> detain the suspect,</i>

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<i> And rescue the woman.</i>

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<i> But who is she?</i>

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<i> Why did this happen?</i>

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<i> And who is shawn grate?</i>

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<i> Local reporters soon get word</i>
<i> of the incident.</i>

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<i> - We learned about the case</i>
<i> when jane doe called police.</i>

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This lady was trying
to escape her captor

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Who was in the same room
with her.

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<i> It sounded serious enough</i>

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<i> That we sent a reporter over</i>
<i> to check it out.</i>

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<i> [pensive music]</i>

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<i> Narrator: Local resident</i>
<i> barbara charter</i>

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<i> Is on a work break</i>
<i> and checking social media</i>

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<i> When she sees</i>
<i> a breaking news story</i>

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<i> About the abduction.</i>

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- I was scrolling
through facebook.

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Drinking my coffee.
It was a normal day.

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<i> And I happen to see</i>
<i> a story about an abduction</i>

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<i> Coming out of ashland, ohio.</i>

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<i> Well, that made me stop,</i>

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<i> Because my parents</i>
<i> had lived in ashland.</i>

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<i> I was just curious.</i>
<i> I opened up the link to it.</i>

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And as I scrolled through,

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I noticed it said
"shawn grate."

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<i> And I thought,</i>
<i> "no, this can't be right."</i>

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<i> Then I continued to scroll</i>

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<i> And I zoomed in</i>
<i> on the picture,</i>

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<i> And I just couldn't</i>
<i> believe it.</i>

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I was shocked.

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<i> And that's when I realized</i>
<i> it was my brother.</i>

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<i> ♪ ♪</i>

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<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> Shawn grate is arrested.</i>

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<i> He is questioned about</i>
<i> the abducted woman, jane doe,</i>

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<i> A pseudonym used</i>
<i> to protect her identity,</i>

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<i> By ashland police captain</i>
<i> david lay.</i>

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<i> Narrator: Grate says</i>
<i> he befriended jane doe</i>

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<i> At a local christian</i>
<i> community center.</i>

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<i> He then took her to a house</i>
<i> he was squatting in.</i>

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<i> She was held captive</i>
<i> for three days</i>

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<i> Before making the 911 call.</i>

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<i> Narrator: After hearing</i>
<i> grate's confession</i>

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<i> To the abduction, assault,</i>
<i> and rape of jane doe,</i>

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<i> Captain lay is briefed</i>
<i> by the arresting officers</i>

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<i> On a conversation</i>
<i> they had had with grate.</i>

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<i> Narrator: Detectives are</i>
<i> shocked by this answer.</i>

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<i> Has grate confessed to murder?</i>

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<i> And who is elizabeth?</i>

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<i> Detective kim mager</i>
<i> is now brought in</i>

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<i> To question grate further.</i>

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<i> - I've known kim</i>
<i> for more than 20 years.</i>

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She's worked with a number of--

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A number of sex offender cases.

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Yeah, she's very good
at her job.

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<i> - Shawn was</i>
<i> much more comfortable</i>

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Talking with kim mager

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Than he was
with the male interrogator.

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<i> He seemed to develop</i>
<i> a rapport with kim.</i>

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<i> - We have a female detective.</i>

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<i> She's at the top of her game.</i>

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And she is used
to being in control

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Of the people
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In sexual assault cases.

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<i> We've got shawn grate.</i>

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<i> This was a guy</i>
<i> who is used to being</i>

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<i> In control of his victims.</i>

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So we got the clash
of the titans here.

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<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> After further questioning,</i>

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<i> Grate reveals</i>
<i> the terrifying truth.</i>

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<i> Narrator: Grate makes</i>
<i> a deadly confession.</i>

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<i> He now tells mager that</i>
<i> elizabeth's body is located</i>

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<i> In the closet in the house</i>
<i> where he held jane doe.</i>

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<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> Grate's grim confession</i>

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<i> Prompts mager</i>
<i> to alert police officers.</i>

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<i> They return to grate's house</i>
<i> and perform a thorough search.</i>

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<i> [indistinct radio chatter]</i>

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<i> They find</i>
<i> two decomposing corpses--</i>

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<i> One in a closet,</i>

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<i> Another in the basement,</i>

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<i> Just as grate had described.</i>

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<i> - Once the details</i>
<i> started coming out</i>

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<i> That there were two bodies</i>
<i> in the house,</i>

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We knew it was not gonna be
obviously a one-day story.

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It was gonna be something
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To keep following.

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<i> Narrator: But who are these</i>
<i> women referred to by grate</i>

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<i> As stacey and elizabeth?</i>

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<i> Police search</i>
<i> the missing persons database</i>

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<i> And find a match.</i>

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<i> 29-year-old elizabeth griffith</i>

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<i> Had disappeared</i>
<i> on August 16, 2016,</i>

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<i> One month before</i>
<i> grate's arrest.</i>

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<i> - Elizabeth lived in ashland.</i>

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She had been diagnosed
as a paranoid schizophrenic,

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And I think she was described
as almost childlike,

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Elizabeth griffith was.

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<i> She had missed</i>
<i> some appointments.</i>

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<i> That's how elizabeth</i>
<i> was reported missing.</i>

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<i> [tense music]</i>

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<i> Shawn met elizabeth griffith</i>
<i> at the local community center.</i>

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<i> Elizabeth seemed to be someone</i>

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Who could be taken advantage of

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Because of her mental
health issues.

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<i> Narrator: But what about</i>
<i> the other body</i>

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<i> Found in the basement?</i>

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<i> Who is stacey?</i>

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- Shawn grate is
an evil serial killer.

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- She was in the wrong place
at the wrong time.

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- There were
three other bodies.

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- Secrets can remain secrets
for a very long time.

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<i> [dramatic music]</i>

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<i> Narrator: Shawn grate has just</i>
<i> revealed to ashland police</i>

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<i> The location</i>
<i> of two murdered women.</i>

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<i> Narrator: Law enforcement have</i>
<i> recovered two female bodies</i>

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<i> From a house in ashland.</i>

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<i> Fingerprint analysis</i>
<i> of the corpse in the basement</i>

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<i> Identifies the victim</i>
<i> as 43-year-old stacey stanley.</i>

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<i> - Stacey stanley,</i>
<i> shawn's second victim,</i>

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You know, she was in the wrong
place at the wrong time.

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You know, she had a flat tire
and shawn helped her with it.

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<i> Narrator: Grate met stacey</i>
<i> outside a gas station</i>

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<i> On September 8, 2016,</i>

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<i> Just one week before</i>
<i> the abduction of jane doe.</i>

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<i> - Stacey stanley found herself</i>

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On the side of the road
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In an area that she knew
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<i> At night.</i>

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<i> This gave shawn grate</i>
<i> the opportunity</i>

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To approach her and ask her
if he could help.

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<i> - Stacey stanley was</i>
<i> vulnerable at that moment.</i>

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She was in a part of town
that she didn't know

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And she had a flat tire.

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So along comes grate

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<i> Being the good guy</i>
<i> to help her with her car,</i>

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And now the predator
has found his next victim.

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<i> Narrator: Grate lures stacey</i>
<i> back to the house,</i>

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<i> Located less than a minute</i>

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<i> From where her vehicle</i>
<i> broke down.</i>

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<i> He now attempts to rape her.</i>

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- I know with stacey stanley,
he forced her into oral sex.

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<i> He made videos of himself</i>
<i> raping stacey stanley.</i>

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That was very disturbing.

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- Videotaping a sexual assault

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Compounds the injury
for the victim

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Because it memorializes
the rape.

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And then grate can
relive the assault

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Over and over again
for whatever satisfaction

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That gives him.

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- [indistinct[

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<i> - This is what every</i>
<i> homicide detective should do.</i>

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<i> Once you've got</i>
<i> that confession,</i>

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Then the next step
is to have them

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Demonstrate what they did.

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A defense attorney hates seeing
those kinds of interviews.

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<i> Narrator: After strangling</i>
<i> stacey to death,</i>

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<i> Grate dumps her body</i>
<i> in the basement</i>

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<i> Of the house</i>
<i> where he imprisoned jane doe.</i>

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<i> - Stacey stanley</i>
<i> was found in the basement</i>

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<i> Under bags of trash,</i>
<i> and, I mean, that's just--</i>

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To take away
someone's dignity that way

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Is really hard to take.

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<i> - He preyed on women.</i>

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<i> Vulnerable women.</i>

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<i> Mentally ill, drug addict,</i>

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<i> Disabled women.</i>

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He would kidnap them,

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And then he would
sexually abuse them

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And torture them,
not just for hours,

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But sometimes for days

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Before killing them.

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<i> Narrator: But what twisted</i>
<i> psychological forces</i>

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<i> Drive someone to rape</i>
<i> and kill so savagely?</i>

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<i> There is one woman</i>
<i> who may hold the answer.</i>

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<i> Shawn grate's half sister,</i>
<i> barbara.</i>

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<i> Barbara grew up with shawn</i>
<i> in a small town</i>

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<i> Near ashland,</i>
<i> in marion county.</i>

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<i> Ever since shawn's arrest,</i>

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<i> Barbara has been trying</i>
<i> to understand</i>

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<i> What motivated her brother</i>
<i> to kill.</i>

214
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- So this is the neighborhood
where shawn and I grew up.

215
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I haven't been back here
for years.

216
00:13:10,823 --> 00:13:13,291
But then
after shawn was arrested,

217
00:13:13,359 --> 00:13:16,027
I took a trip back

218
00:13:16,096 --> 00:13:18,362
And drove through
the old neighborhood

219
00:13:18,431 --> 00:13:21,432
And just tried to wrap my brain
around what happened

220
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Or where--what went wrong.

221
00:13:24,404 --> 00:13:26,037
<i> And right there's the house.</i>

222
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<i> Yup, that's the house</i>
<i> we grew up.</i>

223
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My brother and I
laid those tiles down

224
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That are in the driveway.

225
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<i> ♪ ♪</i>

226
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We had the typical
suburban family,

227
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Two parents in the home,

228
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Three kids, a new home.

229
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<i> We grew up</i>
<i> in what we thought was</i>

230
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<i> A nurturing, normal household.</i>

231
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<i> Our parents divorced.</i>

232
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<i> So after that, it changed.</i>

233
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<i> We went from, you know,</i>
<i> a two-parent home</i>

234
00:13:57,737 --> 00:13:59,337
<i> To a single mom.</i>

235
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My mom worked and I took on
the responsibilities

236
00:14:02,809 --> 00:14:05,277
Of her role as the caretaker

237
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And taking care of my brothers.

238
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<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> Aged just 12 years old,</i>

239
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<i> Barbara suddenly had to deal</i>
<i> with adult responsibilities</i>

240
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<i> And take on the role of mother</i>

241
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<i> To her younger</i>
<i> half brother, shawn.</i>

242
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<i> - My mom had gotten a job</i>
<i> as a bartender downtown.</i>

243
00:14:23,296 --> 00:14:26,331
<i> So she was gone</i>
<i> through the day</i>

244
00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:28,165
<i> Or through the evening.</i>

245
00:14:28,234 --> 00:14:31,502
<i> She also ran with the people</i>
<i> that she served.</i>

246
00:14:31,571 --> 00:14:34,773
And so on the weekends,
she wouldn't be home.

247
00:14:34,841 --> 00:14:36,574
She would take off on a Friday

248
00:14:36,576 --> 00:14:40,911
And then she wouldn't return
until Sunday afternoon

249
00:14:40,981 --> 00:14:42,514
And would leave me responsible

250
00:14:42,582 --> 00:14:45,851
For my brothers
for that entire weekend.

251
00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:48,186
<i> Narrator: Although barbara</i>
<i> was doing her best</i>

252
00:14:48,188 --> 00:14:49,588
<i> To bring up the family,</i>

253
00:14:49,656 --> 00:14:52,390
<i> Shawn began to display</i>
<i> troubling behavior</i>

254
00:14:52,459 --> 00:14:53,892
<i> From an early age.</i>

255
00:14:54,861 --> 00:14:57,996
<i> - Growing up with shawn</i>
<i> was difficult.</i>

256
00:14:58,064 --> 00:15:00,331
My parents had caught shawn

257
00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:02,333
Playing with
a cigarette lighter.

258
00:15:02,335 --> 00:15:06,070
So they had hid it from him.

259
00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:11,109
<i> The next night, he climbed</i>
<i> and found a cigarette lighter</i>

260
00:15:11,177 --> 00:15:15,146
<i> And went into the bedroom</i>
<i> and set his bedroom on fire.</i>

261
00:15:15,214 --> 00:15:17,382
And that was
at the age of three.

262
00:15:19,419 --> 00:15:21,352
<i> He didn't get</i>
<i> in trouble for that.</i>

263
00:15:21,421 --> 00:15:24,222
There was always an excuse
for his behavior,

264
00:15:24,224 --> 00:15:27,558
And there was no consequences
to that behavior.

265
00:15:27,627 --> 00:15:30,361
<i> He was able to act</i>
<i> the way that he was.</i>

266
00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:34,665
I feel that that's where that
sense of entitlement started.

267
00:15:36,236 --> 00:15:38,769
<i> - Setting a fire</i>
<i> at such a young age</i>

268
00:15:38,771 --> 00:15:40,371
<i> Is a cry for attention.</i>

269
00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,841
Grate had a lot of anger,

270
00:15:42,909 --> 00:15:45,377
And he may have been angry
with his mother.

271
00:15:45,445 --> 00:15:48,447
<i> So he projected that anger</i>
<i> onto his victims.</i>

272
00:15:48,514 --> 00:15:51,916
<i> Narrator: But it wasn't simply</i>
<i> anger behind shawn's rage.</i>

273
00:15:51,985 --> 00:15:54,552
<i> He had other issues.</i>

274
00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:57,256
<i> - Shawn didn't speak</i>
<i> until he was four.</i>

275
00:15:57,323 --> 00:16:00,459
<i> And then he did fail</i>
<i> kindergarten.</i>

276
00:16:00,526 --> 00:16:03,728
Shawn was diagnosed
with a learning disability,

277
00:16:03,797 --> 00:16:05,529
<i> And that's when kids--</i>

278
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<i> They started</i>
<i> making fun of him.</i>

279
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<i> Narrator: Despite shawn's</i>
<i> learning disability</i>

280
00:16:10,403 --> 00:16:12,003
<i> And behavioral problems,</i>

281
00:16:12,071 --> 00:16:14,605
<i> There was one thing</i>
<i> he did excel at:</i>

282
00:16:14,674 --> 00:16:16,541
<i> Baseball.</i>

283
00:16:16,543 --> 00:16:20,011
<i> - Shawn was</i>
<i> a phenomenal baseball player.</i>

284
00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:24,782
<i> His goal was that he would</i>
<i> pursue that as an adult.</i>

285
00:16:24,851 --> 00:16:28,086
<i> However, one night,</i>
<i> throwing a pitch</i>

286
00:16:28,154 --> 00:16:29,620
<i> And his arm broke</i>

287
00:16:29,689 --> 00:16:33,357
From the shoulder blade
down to the elbow.

288
00:16:33,426 --> 00:16:35,093
<i> Once that happened,</i>

289
00:16:35,095 --> 00:16:38,296
<i> He knew that he was never</i>
<i> able to play baseball.</i>

290
00:16:38,298 --> 00:16:40,498
<i> After, he didn't know</i>
<i> what to do with himself,</i>

291
00:16:40,567 --> 00:16:42,700
<i> I think he was</i>
<i> completely lost.</i>

292
00:16:42,702 --> 00:16:45,269
- Dashing a hope
of playing baseball

293
00:16:45,271 --> 00:16:48,172
At the age of 17
would have been crushing.

294
00:16:48,174 --> 00:16:50,642
It could have affected
his self-esteem

295
00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:52,444
And made him feel angry.

296
00:16:53,646 --> 00:16:56,547
<i> - We all heard</i>
<i> from our mother</i>

297
00:16:56,616 --> 00:16:59,851
<i> That we wouldn't amount</i>
<i> for much.</i>

298
00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:03,855
When I was older, my mom was
disappointed with me

299
00:17:03,923 --> 00:17:07,459
Because I had moved up
in a company.

300
00:17:07,527 --> 00:17:09,193
<i> And I was proud of myself.</i>

301
00:17:09,262 --> 00:17:11,395
<i> And, you know--and I was</i>
<i> telling her about it,</i>

302
00:17:11,397 --> 00:17:13,732
<i> And her words to me was--</i>
<i> [scoffs]</i>

303
00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,067
"do you think you're smarter
than the rest of us?

304
00:17:17,137 --> 00:17:18,670
"is that what it is?
Is that, you know--

305
00:17:18,738 --> 00:17:21,004
Do you think you're better
than the rest of us?"

306
00:17:21,006 --> 00:17:22,673
<i> So my reaction was,</i>

307
00:17:22,742 --> 00:17:25,476
<i> "well, what did you expect me</i>
<i> to do with my life?"</i>

308
00:17:25,545 --> 00:17:27,144
And she was like,
"I just wanted you

309
00:17:27,213 --> 00:17:28,746
To be a housewife."

310
00:17:28,815 --> 00:17:30,816
That was her goal for me.

311
00:17:30,883 --> 00:17:34,352
<i> She did the same thing</i>
<i> with shawn.</i>

312
00:17:34,354 --> 00:17:35,619
<i> He was always told that,</i>

313
00:17:35,688 --> 00:17:37,722
<i> "you have</i>
<i> a learning disability."</i>

314
00:17:38,691 --> 00:17:40,792
<i> And I think that</i>
<i> that's when the reality</i>

315
00:17:40,860 --> 00:17:45,262
<i> Of that shawn was not gonna</i>
<i> move forward in life,</i>

316
00:17:45,331 --> 00:17:49,033
And I think that was
a huge turnaround for him.

317
00:17:50,236 --> 00:17:52,637
<i> - If grate's own mother</i>
<i> told him</i>

318
00:17:52,639 --> 00:17:54,372
<i> He wasn't ever gonna</i>
<i> amount to much,</i>

319
00:17:54,374 --> 00:17:56,173
Then he probably started
to believe it.

320
00:17:56,242 --> 00:17:58,709
He saw no future for himself.

321
00:17:58,778 --> 00:18:00,846
<i> Narrator: Detective kim mager</i>
<i> has interrogated</i>

322
00:18:00,913 --> 00:18:02,848
<i> Shawn grate for several hours.</i>

323
00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:04,582
<i> To her astonishment,</i>

324
00:18:04,651 --> 00:18:08,353
<i> He now makes yet one more</i>
<i> startling confession.</i>

325
00:18:24,537 --> 00:18:26,770
<i> [dramatic music]</i>

326
00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:28,405
<i> ♪ ♪</i>

327
00:18:28,474 --> 00:18:31,009
<i> Narrator: Shawn grate is</i>
<i> in custody for abduction.</i>

328
00:18:31,077 --> 00:18:33,878
<i> Incredibly, over the course</i>
<i> of a few short hours,</i>

329
00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,614
<i> He confesses to murdering</i>
<i> three women.</i>

330
00:18:37,616 --> 00:18:41,319
<i> He names his third victim</i>
<i> as candice.</i>

331
00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:51,161
<i> Narrator: Law enforcement</i>
<i> search the database</i>

332
00:18:51,231 --> 00:18:52,563
<i> For missing persons</i>

333
00:18:52,565 --> 00:18:55,099
<i> Matching candice's name</i>
<i> and description.</i>

334
00:18:55,101 --> 00:18:56,700
<i> There is no match.</i>

335
00:18:56,769 --> 00:18:58,503
<i> Could grate be lying?</i>

336
00:18:58,571 --> 00:19:01,372
<i> Detective kim mager</i>
<i> probes further.</i>

337
00:19:12,852 --> 00:19:16,054
<i> [ominous music]</i>

338
00:19:23,863 --> 00:19:26,330
<i> Narrator: Grate gives</i>
<i> the location of the body,</i>

339
00:19:26,399 --> 00:19:29,667
<i> Approximately 12 miles</i>
<i> from ashland.</i>

340
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:32,670
<i> He now takes the detectives</i>
<i> to the site.</i>

341
00:19:45,852 --> 00:19:48,053
<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> Police recover the body.</i>

342
00:19:49,422 --> 00:19:53,291
<i> And an autopsy confirms</i>
<i> it is a 29-year-old female,</i>

343
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,492
<i> Candice cunningham.</i>

344
00:19:55,561 --> 00:19:58,229
<i> - Candice had been strangled</i>

345
00:19:58,231 --> 00:20:00,631
<i> In a burned-out,</i>
<i> derelict house,</i>

346
00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:03,968
And then her body had been
disposed of in the woods.

347
00:20:05,571 --> 00:20:08,572
<i> - Once the details</i>
<i> started coming out,</i>

348
00:20:08,641 --> 00:20:11,041
<i> It was kind of hard</i>
<i> to believe.</i>

349
00:20:11,043 --> 00:20:12,376
We got a story on our website

350
00:20:12,378 --> 00:20:14,412
And just updated it
throughout the day.

351
00:20:15,848 --> 00:20:18,515
<i> - I was standing</i>
<i> in the middle of a craft show</i>

352
00:20:18,584 --> 00:20:22,620
And I remember getting
a phone call from my daughter

353
00:20:22,622 --> 00:20:26,090
Telling me
there was a third body.

354
00:20:27,994 --> 00:20:32,196
<i> I was standing there,</i>
<i> and it was just raw emotions,</i>

355
00:20:32,265 --> 00:20:34,332
Like standing naked
in the middle of a crowd

356
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,801
And everybody staring at you.

357
00:20:36,803 --> 00:20:40,204
<i> And nobody knew who I was,</i>
<i> but in my mind,</i>

358
00:20:40,273 --> 00:20:42,941
<i> I felt like</i>
<i> everybody knew who I was.</i>

359
00:20:43,009 --> 00:20:45,476
First person I called
was my mother.

360
00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:51,283
<i> I tried calling her</i>
<i> and I didn't get any answer.</i>

361
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:54,885
My mom called back,
and she left a message

362
00:20:54,954 --> 00:20:56,887
And said, "lose my number

363
00:20:56,956 --> 00:20:58,622
And don't ever call me again."

364
00:20:58,691 --> 00:21:01,559
<i> ♪ ♪</i>

365
00:21:01,627 --> 00:21:03,128
<i> Narrator: As police</i>
<i> investigate the murder</i>

366
00:21:03,195 --> 00:21:04,695
<i> Of candice cunningham,</i>

367
00:21:04,697 --> 00:21:07,164
<i> More details</i>
<i> of shawn's past relationship</i>

368
00:21:07,233 --> 00:21:09,233
<i> With her emerge.</i>

369
00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:11,635
<i> ♪ ♪</i>

370
00:21:11,704 --> 00:21:14,071
<i> - Summer of 2016,</i>

371
00:21:14,140 --> 00:21:16,774
Shawn was in mansfield.

372
00:21:16,843 --> 00:21:20,311
<i> He had a relationship</i>
<i> with candice cunningham.</i>

373
00:21:21,447 --> 00:21:24,382
<i> Mansfield has a lot</i>
<i> of abandoned homes</i>

374
00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:26,117
<i> And dilapidated homes.</i>

375
00:21:27,186 --> 00:21:28,920
<i> There are a lot</i>
<i> of places in mansfield</i>

376
00:21:28,988 --> 00:21:31,922
Where somebody can squat.

377
00:21:31,924 --> 00:21:35,592
<i> - Candice and shawn dated</i>
<i> for a few months in 2016</i>

378
00:21:35,661 --> 00:21:37,596
<i> Right before he killed her.</i>

379
00:21:37,663 --> 00:21:39,397
<i> But she had told</i>
<i> family members</i>

380
00:21:39,399 --> 00:21:42,199
That shawn treated her
much better

381
00:21:42,201 --> 00:21:43,600
Than other people did,

382
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:45,369
Didn't treat her
like a drug addict.

383
00:21:46,873 --> 00:21:49,139
<i> Narrator: By the time</i>
<i> shawn was in his late teens,</i>

384
00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:50,542
<i> He was getting into drugs</i>

385
00:21:50,609 --> 00:21:52,476
<i> And hanging out</i>
<i> with the wrong crowd.</i>

386
00:21:52,545 --> 00:21:56,413
<i> It's a pattern that would</i>
<i> continue into adult life.</i>

387
00:21:56,482 --> 00:21:59,550
- Shawn's lifestyle
at the time was drifting

388
00:21:59,618 --> 00:22:01,752
From person to person.

389
00:22:01,821 --> 00:22:03,554
He didn't want to work.

390
00:22:03,622 --> 00:22:06,223
He wanted people
to take care of him.

391
00:22:06,225 --> 00:22:07,825
<i> He just didn't absolutely want</i>

392
00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:09,628
<i> Any responsibilities</i>
<i> whatsoever.</i>

393
00:22:09,695 --> 00:22:12,096
<i> He just wanted to live</i>
<i> in somebody's house</i>

394
00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:14,365
Until he wore out his welcome.

395
00:22:16,302 --> 00:22:18,168
<i> - Seemingly, john's motivation</i>

396
00:22:18,237 --> 00:22:20,171
<i> For killing</i>
<i> candice cunningham was,</i>

397
00:22:20,239 --> 00:22:22,907
<i> She lied to him, supposedly.</i>

398
00:22:22,909 --> 00:22:26,177
- If shawn feels that you're
lying to him, then that's--

399
00:22:26,245 --> 00:22:28,245
It's just almost like
he just, like--

400
00:22:28,314 --> 00:22:30,315
He turns into another person.

401
00:22:30,383 --> 00:22:33,118
And he can't control
that behavior.

402
00:22:33,185 --> 00:22:36,253
<i> - If someone lied to grate,</i>
<i> that would trigger anger.</i>

403
00:22:36,322 --> 00:22:38,723
And it's possible that
his intolerance of lying

404
00:22:38,791 --> 00:22:41,725
Was rooted in his
fundamentalist upbringing.

405
00:22:41,794 --> 00:22:44,728
So long as he went to church
and confessed,

406
00:22:44,797 --> 00:22:47,498
Then he would be absolved
of his sins.

407
00:22:48,567 --> 00:22:50,701
<i> - We were force-fed religion.</i>

408
00:22:50,770 --> 00:22:52,402
<i> Not only did we go</i>
<i> to church on Sunday,</i>

409
00:22:52,472 --> 00:22:53,905
<i> But we went to church</i>
<i> Sunday night,</i>

410
00:22:53,973 --> 00:22:56,506
<i> And we went to church</i>
<i> on Wednesday.</i>

411
00:22:56,508 --> 00:23:00,210
If the pastor said
that television was bad,

412
00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:02,347
We didn't have a television
in our home anymore.

413
00:23:02,415 --> 00:23:05,483
<i> I personally think</i>
<i> that that is where</i>

414
00:23:05,485 --> 00:23:07,751
<i> This all started for shawn.</i>

415
00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:11,956
So it was, "okay,
well, I can behave like this,

416
00:23:12,024 --> 00:23:14,225
"but then I can go to church
on Sunday,

417
00:23:14,293 --> 00:23:16,426
And it's gonna be okay."

418
00:23:16,428 --> 00:23:19,897
<i> And that was the message</i>
<i> that shawn got.</i>

419
00:23:19,966 --> 00:23:24,034
"as long as I believed in god
and I read the bible,

420
00:23:24,103 --> 00:23:27,237
"then it was okay
for me to behave this way

421
00:23:27,306 --> 00:23:28,973
And do the things that I do."

422
00:23:45,791 --> 00:23:48,126
<i> Narrator: Over the course</i>
<i> of less than 24 hours,</i>

423
00:23:48,194 --> 00:23:51,730
<i> Shawn grate has confessed</i>
<i> to the murder of three women.</i>

424
00:23:51,797 --> 00:23:54,965
<i> Incredibly,</i>
<i> there were more to come.</i>

425
00:24:04,210 --> 00:24:08,012
- We got to see the evil,
dark side of shawn grate.

426
00:24:09,148 --> 00:24:11,281
- He forced her into oral sex.

427
00:24:11,283 --> 00:24:14,085
- Blames it on his hatred
towards his mother.

428
00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:21,359
- That was his first killing.

429
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,770
<i> [dramatic music]</i>

430
00:24:31,837 --> 00:24:33,505
<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> In less than 24 hours,</i>

431
00:24:33,572 --> 00:24:35,774
<i> Shawn grate has confessed</i>
<i> to three murders</i>

432
00:24:35,841 --> 00:24:37,074
<i> And one abduction.</i>

433
00:24:38,377 --> 00:24:41,745
<i> He now gives detective</i>
<i> kim mager yet one more name.</i>

434
00:24:41,747 --> 00:24:43,648
<i> [tense music]</i>

435
00:24:57,329 --> 00:24:59,196
<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> 31-year-old rebekah leicy</i>

436
00:24:59,198 --> 00:25:00,598
<i> Was from marion county.</i>

437
00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:05,335
<i> She was reported missing</i>
<i> February 6, 2015.</i>

438
00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:07,539
- Rebekah leicy was
reported missing

439
00:25:07,606 --> 00:25:09,473
Early in the year.

440
00:25:09,475 --> 00:25:11,009
<i> The family was very concerned</i>

441
00:25:11,076 --> 00:25:15,612
<i> Because rebekah was</i>
<i> into all the drug culture.</i>

442
00:25:15,681 --> 00:25:19,616
<i> She did a lot of things</i>
<i> to support that drug culture.</i>

443
00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:21,485
I don't want to say
prostitution,

444
00:25:21,553 --> 00:25:24,355
But that kind of comes to mind.

445
00:25:25,224 --> 00:25:27,291
- Rebekah leicy was
a drifter who had run

446
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:30,094
With the wrong crowd
for a long time.

447
00:25:30,162 --> 00:25:31,895
She ended up
being a drug addict.

448
00:25:31,897 --> 00:25:34,499
She was involved
in prostitution.

449
00:25:34,567 --> 00:25:36,633
<i> - Rebekah leicy sounds like</i>

450
00:25:36,702 --> 00:25:38,235
<i> She may have been</i>
<i> a lot like shawn.</i>

451
00:25:38,304 --> 00:25:41,905
You know, kind of a person
of the streets.

452
00:25:41,907 --> 00:25:43,840
<i> - Shawn's experience</i>
<i> as a grifter</i>

453
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:45,709
<i> And spending time</i>
<i> on the streets,</i>

454
00:25:45,778 --> 00:25:50,647
He definitely honed his ability
to spot a vulnerable woman.

455
00:25:50,716 --> 00:25:54,118
<i> - Shawn's path in life</i>
<i> was to drift</i>

456
00:25:54,186 --> 00:25:55,919
<i> And have women</i>
<i> take care of him.</i>

457
00:25:55,921 --> 00:25:59,856
He would target women
with low self-esteem.

458
00:26:00,794 --> 00:26:03,393
<i> Narrator: Three months after</i>
<i> rebekah leicy disappeared,</i>

459
00:26:03,462 --> 00:26:05,395
<i> A body is discovered</i>
<i> in mifflin,</i>

460
00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:07,864
<i> 8 miles from ashland.</i>

461
00:26:07,933 --> 00:26:10,467
<i> - It was early in the spring.</i>

462
00:26:10,469 --> 00:26:12,670
Her body was discovered.

463
00:26:13,673 --> 00:26:16,874
<i> The body was located</i>
<i> by an employee</i>

464
00:26:16,876 --> 00:26:20,410
<i> Of a natural gas company.</i>

465
00:26:20,479 --> 00:26:24,081
<i> He sees this body</i>
<i> propped up against a tree.</i>

466
00:26:24,083 --> 00:26:26,617
The body was
pretty well preserved,

467
00:26:26,619 --> 00:26:30,888
But some animals had
gotten to the body.

468
00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:32,156
So we had to rely on--

469
00:26:32,224 --> 00:26:35,892
I believe it was tattoos,
dental records,

470
00:26:35,961 --> 00:26:41,298
And dna, of course,
to positively identify her.

471
00:26:41,367 --> 00:26:45,836
<i> The initial autopsy report</i>
<i> was a unexplained death</i>

472
00:26:45,904 --> 00:26:48,105
With a possible drug overdose,

473
00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:51,641
Due to the culture
that she was involved in.

474
00:26:51,711 --> 00:26:53,844
<i> Narrator: In ashland,</i>
<i> detective kim mager</i>

475
00:26:53,846 --> 00:26:56,380
<i> Is using all of her</i>
<i> interrogation skills</i>

476
00:26:56,382 --> 00:26:59,116
<i> To extract a confession</i>
<i> from grate.</i>

477
00:26:59,185 --> 00:27:02,653
- There's always a strategy
about approaching

478
00:27:02,721 --> 00:27:04,589
The person
in the interview room.

479
00:27:04,657 --> 00:27:07,324
<i> Where we're headed.</i>
<i> How we're gonna get there.</i>

480
00:27:07,393 --> 00:27:09,860
She took advantage
of everything

481
00:27:09,862 --> 00:27:12,529
He was willing to give her.

482
00:27:12,598 --> 00:27:16,066
<i> - When shawn grate admitted</i>
<i> what he had done,</i>

483
00:27:16,135 --> 00:27:21,940
We opened it back up as
a full homicide investigation.

484
00:27:22,007 --> 00:27:23,408
<i> He went through</i>
<i> the whole thing,</i>

485
00:27:23,475 --> 00:27:26,410
<i> How he'd known</i>
<i> rebekah leicy for a while.</i>

486
00:27:26,478 --> 00:27:31,748
He'd met her on the street,
and she needed some money,

487
00:27:31,817 --> 00:27:34,418
So she went with him

488
00:27:34,486 --> 00:27:38,355
<i> To a downtown closed business.</i>

489
00:27:40,292 --> 00:27:44,495
<i> And he took her inside</i>
<i> the vacant building,</i>

490
00:27:44,563 --> 00:27:47,731
<i> And he was</i>
<i> going to pay her for sex.</i>

491
00:27:49,301 --> 00:27:52,269
<i> I believe he said it was $20.</i>

492
00:27:52,337 --> 00:27:54,372
<i> - Rebekah leicy needed</i>
<i> some money.</i>

493
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,108
Shawn grate says he'll pay her
20 bucks for some sex,

494
00:27:58,177 --> 00:28:02,045
And they are getting ready
to do the deed,

495
00:28:02,047 --> 00:28:06,117
And shawn says he needs
to go to the bathroom.

496
00:28:06,185 --> 00:28:07,918
<i> - While he was</i>
<i> in the bathroom,</i>

497
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,189
He said he could hear rebekah
going through his things,

498
00:28:11,256 --> 00:28:13,657
And when he came out,
his money was gone.

499
00:28:13,725 --> 00:28:18,195
- He comes back upstairs.
He confronts her about this.

500
00:28:18,263 --> 00:28:19,597
She denies it, says, "no,

501
00:28:19,665 --> 00:28:21,331
That's not
what's gonna happen."

502
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,467
<i> They get in an argument.</i>

503
00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:25,669
<i> - He said that he had</i>
<i> to fight her like a man.</i>

504
00:28:25,737 --> 00:28:31,408
And they ended up on the floor
while he was assaulting her.

505
00:28:31,477 --> 00:28:34,745
And at one point,
she was fighting back so hard,

506
00:28:34,747 --> 00:28:37,381
He said he started
to strangle her.

507
00:28:56,101 --> 00:28:59,136
- This detective is adept.

508
00:28:59,204 --> 00:29:01,305
She knows what she's doing.

509
00:29:01,307 --> 00:29:03,374
<i> She knows</i>
<i> who she's talking to.</i>

510
00:29:03,442 --> 00:29:07,779
<i> He knows this detective</i>
<i> is not lying to him.</i>

511
00:29:07,846 --> 00:29:10,380
<i> So he feels</i>
<i> completely comfortable</i>

512
00:29:10,382 --> 00:29:12,916
In telling her the truth.

513
00:29:12,918 --> 00:29:14,719
<i> - He described the room</i>
<i> where it happened.</i>

514
00:29:14,787 --> 00:29:18,321
<i> He described the empty</i>
<i> business where it happened.</i>

515
00:29:18,390 --> 00:29:20,924
Then he described
how he transported her

516
00:29:20,926 --> 00:29:25,095
From the business to the woods.

517
00:29:26,465 --> 00:29:28,665
<i> Narrator: Grate's vagrant</i>
<i> lifestyle resulted in him</i>

518
00:29:28,667 --> 00:29:30,801
<i> Often sleeping rough</i>
<i> in the woods.</i>

519
00:29:30,803 --> 00:29:34,604
<i> This gave him the knowledge</i>
<i> of where to hide a body.</i>

520
00:29:34,673 --> 00:29:37,809
<i> - He was living in the woods</i>

521
00:29:37,876 --> 00:29:40,478
<i> With, like, a tent</i>
<i> and some tarp.</i>

522
00:29:40,546 --> 00:29:44,681
At one point, you know,
maybe he felt safe in the woods

523
00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:47,884
Because he was hidden
from everybody.

524
00:29:47,954 --> 00:29:50,153
<i> Narrator: Shawn grate's</i>
<i> half sister barbara</i>

525
00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:51,654
<i> Visits the location</i>

526
00:29:51,724 --> 00:29:54,826
<i> Of rebekah leicy's</i>
<i> final resting place.</i>

527
00:29:54,893 --> 00:29:58,295
<i> - This is the site where</i>
<i> rebekah's body was found.</i>

528
00:29:58,363 --> 00:29:59,564
<i> It's sad.</i>

529
00:29:59,631 --> 00:30:01,966
I don't know anything
about rebekah,

530
00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:04,769
<i> But I do know that she was</i>
<i> somebody's daughter.</i>

531
00:30:04,837 --> 00:30:07,170
<i> And it's sad to think</i>
<i> that this is where</i>

532
00:30:07,239 --> 00:30:09,473
<i> Her final resting place</i>
<i> was here.</i>

533
00:30:11,344 --> 00:30:14,444
And that my brother
was the cause of that.

534
00:30:14,446 --> 00:30:16,046
<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> Shawn grate has confessed</i>

535
00:30:16,114 --> 00:30:18,615
<i> To four murders</i>
<i> and one abduction.</i>

536
00:30:20,452 --> 00:30:23,321
<i> But he has</i>
<i> one more secret to reveal.</i>

537
00:30:23,388 --> 00:30:27,057
<i> A secret stretching back</i>
<i> nearly ten years.</i>

538
00:30:41,672 --> 00:30:44,809
<i> [dramatic music]</i>

539
00:30:44,877 --> 00:30:46,476
<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> Shawn grate has admitted</i>

540
00:30:46,478 --> 00:30:48,211
<i> To brutally murdering</i>
<i> four women</i>

541
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,813
<i> And abducting one other.</i>

542
00:30:49,881 --> 00:30:52,749
<i> Now, he drops</i>
<i> one more bombshell.</i>

543
00:30:52,751 --> 00:30:54,285
<i> It concerns a cold case</i>

544
00:30:54,353 --> 00:30:56,854
<i> Stretching back</i>
<i> over ten years.</i>

545
00:31:18,844 --> 00:31:20,310
<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> Detective mager contacts</i>

546
00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:22,412
<i> Nearby marion county police</i>

547
00:31:22,481 --> 00:31:25,115
<i> To inquire if they have</i>
<i> any missing persons</i>

548
00:31:25,117 --> 00:31:27,251
<i> By the name of dana.</i>

549
00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:29,654
<i> - So the call came</i>

550
00:31:29,721 --> 00:31:31,888
<i> From the ashland county</i>
<i> sheriff's office</i>

551
00:31:31,957 --> 00:31:34,991
That they had apprehended
an individual.

552
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:37,194
His name was shawn grate.

553
00:31:37,196 --> 00:31:39,263
<i> He thought her name was dana</i>

554
00:31:39,331 --> 00:31:43,199
<i> And that he had killed her</i>
<i> in marion county.</i>

555
00:31:43,268 --> 00:31:47,003
So we started on a search
of trying to identify

556
00:31:47,072 --> 00:31:49,673
This female victim.

557
00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:51,642
<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> After an exhaustive search,</i>

558
00:31:51,710 --> 00:31:53,910
<i> A record is found</i>
<i> of a woman's body</i>

559
00:31:53,912 --> 00:31:57,747
<i> Discovered in 2007</i>
<i> in marion county.</i>

560
00:31:57,749 --> 00:32:01,218
<i> The body was less than a mile</i>
<i> from grate's family home.</i>

561
00:32:01,220 --> 00:32:03,154
<i> Could this be dana?</i>

562
00:32:04,957 --> 00:32:06,823
<i> - In March of 2007,</i>

563
00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:09,827
A citizen was walking along
a county road

564
00:32:09,895 --> 00:32:14,698
When he discovered
the remains of a human.

565
00:32:15,968 --> 00:32:19,636
<i> The body had been there,</i>
<i> we thought, for about a year,</i>

566
00:32:19,638 --> 00:32:23,873
<i> Had decomposed entirely</i>
<i> clear down to the bones.</i>

567
00:32:23,943 --> 00:32:26,843
We were able to extract
a dna profile

568
00:32:26,912 --> 00:32:31,381
And match the dna with a woman

569
00:32:31,383 --> 00:32:33,184
Who was on the database,

570
00:32:33,251 --> 00:32:35,552
Who was actually dana's aunt.

571
00:32:37,923 --> 00:32:40,524
<i> Narrator: This led them</i>
<i> to dna test dana's daughter,</i>

572
00:32:40,592 --> 00:32:43,727
<i> Resulting in a positive</i>
<i> genetic match to the body.</i>

573
00:32:43,729 --> 00:32:46,796
<i> Finally, they can find out</i>
<i> what happened to her.</i>

574
00:32:46,865 --> 00:32:48,999
- We know that shawn
lived in marion county.

575
00:32:49,067 --> 00:32:50,668
He grew up there.

576
00:32:50,736 --> 00:32:54,137
<i> He lived within a mile</i>
<i> of where our victim was found.</i>

577
00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:57,407
<i> And so I sent two detectives</i>
<i> over immediately.</i>

578
00:32:57,409 --> 00:32:58,842
<i> [tense music]</i>

579
00:32:58,910 --> 00:33:01,411
<i> - Dana lowrey was</i>
<i> a 23-year-old woman</i>

580
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,881
Who mysteriously vanished
from marion county, ohio,

581
00:33:04,883 --> 00:33:06,549
In 2005.

582
00:33:06,618 --> 00:33:09,019
<i> - Shawn grate had met her</i>

583
00:33:09,087 --> 00:33:12,288
Through her selling magazines.

584
00:33:12,357 --> 00:33:15,493
<i> - Dana was selling magazines.</i>

585
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,494
I believe she was only 23,

586
00:33:17,563 --> 00:33:19,763
So she may have been
supporting herself for college.

587
00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:23,300
<i> - Dana supposedly sold</i>
<i> a magazine subscription</i>

588
00:33:23,302 --> 00:33:25,702
<i> To grate's mother</i>
<i> that never arrived.</i>

589
00:33:25,771 --> 00:33:28,306
<i> And grate's mother</i>
<i> complained about it</i>

590
00:33:28,373 --> 00:33:30,975
And said she had been lied to.

591
00:33:31,043 --> 00:33:33,644
Well, that was enough
for shawn grate.

592
00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:37,881
- That irritated him
and angered him.

593
00:33:37,950 --> 00:33:40,784
So later, he saw dana

594
00:33:40,786 --> 00:33:43,387
<i> Walking down the street</i>
<i> in marion.</i>

595
00:33:43,455 --> 00:33:45,322
<i> - He finds dana lowrey,</i>

596
00:33:45,324 --> 00:33:47,590
<i> Approaches her, uses his charm</i>

597
00:33:47,659 --> 00:33:51,328
And charisma to convince her
to get in the car with him,

598
00:33:51,330 --> 00:33:53,730
And then he takes her
to his grandparents' house.

599
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:55,632
<i> - While we'll never know</i>
<i> for sure</i>

600
00:33:55,701 --> 00:33:58,169
What happened to dana lowrey,

601
00:33:58,236 --> 00:33:59,736
Based upon what we know

602
00:33:59,738 --> 00:34:03,673
Of how grate terrorized
his other victims,

603
00:34:03,742 --> 00:34:06,344
It's likely
that she was abducted,

604
00:34:06,411 --> 00:34:08,212
Sexually assaulted,

605
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,247
<i> And then killed.</i>

606
00:34:43,215 --> 00:34:45,949
<i> - He had a girlfriend</i>
<i> that was coming over</i>

607
00:34:46,017 --> 00:34:47,951
<i> To the grandparents' home.</i>

608
00:34:48,019 --> 00:34:50,720
<i> And the girlfriend had no idea</i>

609
00:34:50,722 --> 00:34:53,457
That there was a girl

610
00:34:53,525 --> 00:34:56,326
That was dead in the house,
in the basement.

611
00:34:56,328 --> 00:34:59,396
<i> She helped him clean up blood,</i>

612
00:34:59,464 --> 00:35:02,599
And she had no idea
what she was cleaning up.

613
00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:05,435
<i> That was his first killing.</i>

614
00:35:08,507 --> 00:35:13,910
<i> - He then took the body</i>
<i> out to this rural county road.</i>

615
00:35:13,912 --> 00:35:15,879
<i> He dumped the body</i>

616
00:35:15,947 --> 00:35:18,816
<i> And removed all</i>
<i> of the personal belongings.</i>

617
00:35:18,884 --> 00:35:20,483
<i> And then he was concerned</i>

618
00:35:20,552 --> 00:35:23,153
That there still might be
some evidence,

619
00:35:23,221 --> 00:35:25,889
So he went back
and he burned the body.

620
00:35:25,957 --> 00:35:28,358
<i> And then he watched the news</i>
<i> for--I think he said</i>

621
00:35:28,426 --> 00:35:29,626
<i> Probably a year,</i>

622
00:35:29,695 --> 00:35:31,629
Waiting for something
to happen.

623
00:35:31,696 --> 00:35:34,097
But of course,
no one found the body.

624
00:35:34,165 --> 00:35:36,232
<i> So when this call came in</i>

625
00:35:36,301 --> 00:35:38,768
<i> From the ashland county</i>
<i> sheriff's office,</i>

626
00:35:38,837 --> 00:35:40,303
<i> We got excited.</i>

627
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:44,507
<i> Narrator: The brutal homicide</i>
<i> of dana lowrey in 2005</i>

628
00:35:44,509 --> 00:35:46,509
<i> Had finally been solved.</i>

629
00:35:46,511 --> 00:35:48,912
<i> Grate was charged</i>
<i> with multiple murders,</i>

630
00:35:48,914 --> 00:35:50,647
<i> And a date was set</i>

631
00:35:50,715 --> 00:35:53,249
<i> For one of the biggest</i>
<i> serial killer trials</i>

632
00:35:53,318 --> 00:35:54,718
<i> In recent history.</i>

633
00:35:56,521 --> 00:35:58,456
<i> - Grate's 2018 trial</i>

634
00:35:58,523 --> 00:36:01,457
<i> Was the most followed</i>
<i> serial killer trial</i>

635
00:36:01,526 --> 00:36:02,926
<i> In recent history.</i>

636
00:36:02,928 --> 00:36:04,928
<i> Media from all over</i>
<i> the country</i>

637
00:36:04,930 --> 00:36:06,529
<i> And from outside the u.S.</i>

638
00:36:06,531 --> 00:36:09,633
Descended on ashland, ohio.

639
00:36:10,468 --> 00:36:12,203
<i> - I've covered</i>
<i> many murder trials,</i>

640
00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:16,139
<i> But I had never dealt with</i>
<i> a serial killer like shawn.</i>

641
00:36:16,207 --> 00:36:18,608
It was very powerful,
you know, this--

642
00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:22,478
That something like this could
happen in a community our size.

643
00:36:22,547 --> 00:36:24,147
<i> - To see your brother</i>
<i> walking in</i>

644
00:36:24,149 --> 00:36:27,483
<i> With a bulletproof vest on,</i>

645
00:36:27,552 --> 00:36:29,285
<i> As a sister, it's--</i>

646
00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:31,488
It's heartbreaking to see.

647
00:36:31,557 --> 00:36:34,424
<i> I see that little boy</i>
<i> riding his bike</i>

648
00:36:34,426 --> 00:36:36,092
<i> And playing baseball.</i>

649
00:36:36,161 --> 00:36:37,962
That's who I see.

650
00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:39,829
<i> - He had 23 counts.</i>

651
00:36:39,898 --> 00:36:42,299
<i> Multiple counts</i>
<i> of aggravated murder.</i>

652
00:36:42,301 --> 00:36:44,434
<i> He pleaded to 15 of the counts</i>

653
00:36:44,502 --> 00:36:48,705
Related to jane doe
and to the rape counts.

654
00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:52,109
- If shawn grate had
any redeeming qualities,

655
00:36:52,177 --> 00:36:57,514
It was that he decided
to plead guilty to the murders.

656
00:36:57,516 --> 00:37:01,384
And it prevented the families
seeing these videos

657
00:37:01,386 --> 00:37:04,655
That he had made
of these sexual assaults.

658
00:37:05,590 --> 00:37:09,259
- He spared the jurors
from having to see that.

659
00:37:09,327 --> 00:37:12,061
<i> Narrator: When it came to</i>
<i> stacey stanley's sentencing,</i>

660
00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:15,698
<i> Her son curtis spoke</i>
<i> directly to grate.</i>

661
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:18,801
- My name is curtis stanley.
I'm stacey's son.

662
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:21,338
You know, I've been waiting
a long time to see you, man.

663
00:37:21,406 --> 00:37:24,040
That was a great woman
you killed.

664
00:37:24,876 --> 00:37:26,275
She meant a lot to me

665
00:37:26,345 --> 00:37:28,679
And my brother
and everybody else.

666
00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:31,348
Just standing up here
and looking at you,

667
00:37:31,416 --> 00:37:33,283
That's hard enough
for me to do.

668
00:37:33,351 --> 00:37:35,018
- There's a catharsis
that happens

669
00:37:35,086 --> 00:37:37,887
With these victims' families
when they're able to--

670
00:37:37,956 --> 00:37:39,555
Given that opportunity,

671
00:37:39,624 --> 00:37:43,093
To face the person that ended
their loved one's life.

672
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:48,464
- During the sentencing phase,
the victims were able

673
00:37:48,533 --> 00:37:51,101
To give impact statements.

674
00:37:52,371 --> 00:37:54,705
<i> Shawn, I don't believe,</i>
<i> showed much emotion,</i>

675
00:37:54,773 --> 00:37:56,039
<i> If at all.</i>

676
00:37:56,107 --> 00:37:58,508
<i> He was pretty stoic.</i>

677
00:37:58,510 --> 00:38:00,309
<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> Day four of the trial.</i>

678
00:38:00,379 --> 00:38:03,046
<i> Jane doe, the woman</i>
<i> who effectively ended</i>

679
00:38:03,048 --> 00:38:05,848
<i> Grate's killing spree,</i>
<i> faced her abductor</i>

680
00:38:05,917 --> 00:38:08,084
<i> And gave her testimony.</i>

681
00:38:20,597 --> 00:38:22,732
<i> [dramatic music]</i>

682
00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:24,468
<i> [tense music]</i>

683
00:38:24,536 --> 00:38:26,736
<i> Narrator: Ashland county</i>
<i> courthouse, ohio.</i>

684
00:38:26,805 --> 00:38:29,939
<i> Shawn grate is on trial</i>
<i> for multiple murder.</i>

685
00:38:30,008 --> 00:38:33,277
<i> It's the biggest serial killer</i>
<i> case in recent memory.</i>

686
00:38:33,345 --> 00:38:35,679
<i> Jane doe,</i>
<i> the woman whose testimony</i>

687
00:38:35,747 --> 00:38:37,014
<i> Could help convict him,</i>

688
00:38:37,082 --> 00:38:39,550
<i> Has taken the stand.</i>

689
00:39:02,373 --> 00:39:04,841
<i> - Listening to jane doe</i>
<i> testify</i>

690
00:39:04,909 --> 00:39:08,311
Had to have been so chilling
for that courtroom.

691
00:39:08,313 --> 00:39:11,180
Because the murder victims
probably went through

692
00:39:11,249 --> 00:39:14,050
Exactly what jane doe
described.

693
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:16,652
And for her,
it was so courageous

694
00:39:16,721 --> 00:39:19,589
To get on the stand
and face the man

695
00:39:19,658 --> 00:39:21,524
Who traumatized her.

696
00:39:21,526 --> 00:39:24,528
<i> - The true hero</i>
<i> of this whole story</i>

697
00:39:24,596 --> 00:39:26,329
<i> Is the jane doe.</i>

698
00:39:26,331 --> 00:39:28,731
I mean, I don't even know
if I would have been able

699
00:39:28,733 --> 00:39:30,867
To have the courage
that she had

700
00:39:30,935 --> 00:39:32,602
To do what she did.

701
00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:34,604
<i> Narrator: Jane doe's</i>
<i> brave testimony,</i>

702
00:39:34,672 --> 00:39:36,539
<i> Coupled with grate's</i>
<i> own confession,</i>

703
00:39:36,608 --> 00:39:38,676
<i> Is enough to convict him.</i>

704
00:39:38,743 --> 00:39:41,078
<i> But will he be sentenced</i>
<i> to death?</i>

705
00:39:41,146 --> 00:39:43,279
<i> Barbara charter,</i>
<i> shawn's half sister,</i>

706
00:39:43,348 --> 00:39:45,482
<i> Now appeals to the court.</i>

707
00:39:56,294 --> 00:40:00,897
During the sentencing hearing,
I was there for shawn,

708
00:40:00,899 --> 00:40:06,102
Just to let him know
that he wasn't by himself,

709
00:40:06,104 --> 00:40:07,904
That he wasn't alone.

710
00:40:07,973 --> 00:40:11,707
<i> He didn't have the nurturing</i>
<i> that he needed,</i>

711
00:40:11,776 --> 00:40:15,245
<i> And I wanted</i>
<i> to just address that</i>

712
00:40:15,313 --> 00:40:18,781
And just get a little bit
of his story out,

713
00:40:18,783 --> 00:40:20,917
To humanize him a little bit.

714
00:40:20,919 --> 00:40:22,652
<i> ♪ ♪</i>

715
00:40:22,654 --> 00:40:24,455
<i> Narrator: But no amount</i>
<i> of humanizing</i>

716
00:40:24,522 --> 00:40:27,056
<i> Could dissuade the judge</i>
<i> from handing down</i>

717
00:40:27,058 --> 00:40:29,025
<i> The ultimate punishment.</i>

718
00:40:30,195 --> 00:40:31,727
- The defendant
was found guilty.

719
00:40:31,796 --> 00:40:33,329
We therefore unanimously find

720
00:40:33,331 --> 00:40:35,265
That the sentence of death
should be imposed

721
00:40:35,333 --> 00:40:38,202
Upon shawn m. Grate.

722
00:40:38,269 --> 00:40:40,204
<i> - He was found guilty</i>
<i> of all counts,</i>

723
00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:42,405
And jurors,
they made the recommendation

724
00:40:42,407 --> 00:40:44,308
That shawn should get
the death penalty.

725
00:40:44,375 --> 00:40:48,411
- When I heard that sentence
handed down,

726
00:40:48,413 --> 00:40:52,481
My first response to that
has been relief,

727
00:40:52,551 --> 00:40:57,153
That this person will never
hurt another person--

728
00:40:57,222 --> 00:41:01,290
Another innocent person
ever again.

729
00:41:01,359 --> 00:41:03,960
<i> - I am a firm believer</i>
<i> of the death penalty,</i>

730
00:41:04,029 --> 00:41:06,095
<i> And it's hard.</i>

731
00:41:06,164 --> 00:41:09,632
Your moral compass just kind of
just goes all over the place

732
00:41:09,634 --> 00:41:12,435
Because you believe
in the death penalty,

733
00:41:12,503 --> 00:41:14,704
But I can't go back
and say "oh, well,

734
00:41:14,772 --> 00:41:16,172
"I don't believe in it now

735
00:41:16,174 --> 00:41:18,375
Because now my brother's
on death row."

736
00:41:18,443 --> 00:41:21,445
<i> Do I believe that</i>
<i> he's where he belongs?</i>

737
00:41:21,513 --> 00:41:24,914
I absolutely do believe
he's where he belongs.

738
00:41:24,983 --> 00:41:26,382
<i> [somber music]</i>

739
00:41:26,451 --> 00:41:28,117
<i> Narrator:</i>
<i> On the final day of the trial,</i>

740
00:41:28,186 --> 00:41:31,955
<i> Grate addressed the court</i>
<i> and asked for forgiveness.</i>

741
00:41:55,613 --> 00:41:57,280
<i> Narrator: Families</i>
<i> of the victims gathered</i>

742
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:58,748
<i> Outside the courthouse</i>

743
00:41:58,816 --> 00:42:00,483
<i> To both remember</i>
<i> their loved ones</i>

744
00:42:00,551 --> 00:42:03,286
<i> And to celebrate</i>
<i> the death sentence.</i>

745
00:42:03,288 --> 00:42:06,189
<i> - I remember</i>
<i> outside the courtroom,</i>

746
00:42:06,257 --> 00:42:09,125
<i> After shawn was sentenced</i>
<i> to death,</i>

747
00:42:09,193 --> 00:42:10,893
The family members and friends,

748
00:42:10,895 --> 00:42:14,497
They released
purple and yellow balloons.

749
00:42:14,499 --> 00:42:17,300
<i> Those were the colors</i>
<i> that stacey liked.</i>

750
00:42:17,302 --> 00:42:20,103
<i> That was pretty powerful.</i>

751
00:42:20,105 --> 00:42:21,637
<i> - Relief,</i>

752
00:42:21,706 --> 00:42:23,373
<i> Gratitude,</i>

753
00:42:23,441 --> 00:42:27,376
And joy
for the victims' families

754
00:42:27,445 --> 00:42:30,848
That, again, we have
some sense of justice here

755
00:42:30,915 --> 00:42:32,982
That's been served

756
00:42:33,051 --> 00:42:36,452
And a sense of peace for them

757
00:42:36,521 --> 00:42:38,488
As they go on with their lives.

758
00:42:40,258 --> 00:42:41,591
<i> - It does make you wonder</i>

759
00:42:41,659 --> 00:42:43,326
<i> How much further</i>
<i> he would have gone</i>

760
00:42:43,328 --> 00:42:45,461
<i> If he had continued</i>
<i> to get away with it.</i>

761
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:48,665
Are there other victims
we don't know about?

762
00:42:50,135 --> 00:42:54,537
- This has completely changed
my life.

763
00:42:54,605 --> 00:42:57,473
<i> ♪ ♪</i>

764
00:42:57,475 --> 00:43:01,677
<i> My trust in people</i>
<i> is no longer there.</i>

765
00:43:01,746 --> 00:43:04,947
<i> So I definitely have</i>
<i> trust issues.</i>

766
00:43:05,016 --> 00:43:06,749
I don't go out in public

767
00:43:06,818 --> 00:43:09,686
'cause I'm so afraid
that somebody is gonna know

768
00:43:09,754 --> 00:43:12,555
Or somebody is gonna find out.

769
00:43:12,623 --> 00:43:15,157
And they're gonna
question me about it.

770
00:43:15,226 --> 00:43:17,894
<i> So just lived in seclusion.</i>

771
00:43:17,896 --> 00:43:21,230
But I'm tired of living
behind those four walls.

772
00:43:21,299 --> 00:43:23,099
<i> Our family didn't do this.</i>

773
00:43:23,101 --> 00:43:26,370
<i> That was shawn's decision.</i>

774
00:43:26,437 --> 00:43:31,107
You know, he gets to hide
behind prison walls,

775
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:32,643
But we have to live our lives,

776
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:35,778
And we have to continue
to live our lives.

777
00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:37,647
And it's not fair.

778
00:43:37,715 --> 00:43:43,353
<i> ♪ ♪</i>