1 00:00:11,746 --> 00:00:13,280 Metro tower, 2 00:00:13,413 --> 00:00:16,416 this is Northwest Orient flight 305 3 00:00:16,551 --> 00:00:18,252 we have a situation. 4 00:00:18,385 --> 00:00:19,621 Tina, I'm gonna have to have you 5 00:00:19,754 --> 00:00:21,188 sit up here now. 6 00:00:21,321 --> 00:00:22,422 I don't wanna see you get hurt. 7 00:00:22,991 --> 00:00:24,559 I don't wanna see anybody get hurt. 8 00:00:44,177 --> 00:00:45,379 Captain, the aft door is open. 9 00:00:45,513 --> 00:00:46,714 Oh, my God. 10 00:01:16,276 --> 00:01:18,546 My real name is Rodney Lewis Bonnifield. 11 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,448 Born July 26, 1952. 12 00:01:21,583 --> 00:01:23,818 I am D.B. Cooper. 13 00:01:23,952 --> 00:01:27,087 ♪ All these sparkling ♪ 14 00:01:28,221 --> 00:01:32,192 ♪ Golden dollar days 15 00:01:32,326 --> 00:01:39,232 ♪ Will wash our normal problems down the drain ♪ 16 00:01:46,908 --> 00:01:51,211 ♪ I can offer you a better today ♪ 17 00:01:51,345 --> 00:01:53,480 ♪ I can give to you a court with no judge ♪ 18 00:01:54,749 --> 00:01:56,416 ♪ Look around you 19 00:01:56,551 --> 00:01:59,286 ♪ At everything you don't has ♪ 20 00:01:59,419 --> 00:02:03,558 ♪ Is all you really, really need love? ♪ 21 00:02:03,691 --> 00:02:07,562 ♪ I can offer you a better right now ♪ 22 00:02:07,695 --> 00:02:11,599 ♪ Lift away all of the weight that won't budge ♪ 23 00:02:11,733 --> 00:02:13,467 ♪ Picture your view ♪ 24 00:02:13,601 --> 00:02:15,703 ♪ From your house on the moon, baby ♪ 25 00:02:15,837 --> 00:02:17,471 ♪ Saturn's got rings ♪ 26 00:02:17,605 --> 00:02:19,540 ♪ And you should be wearing them ♪ 27 00:02:19,674 --> 00:02:27,515 ♪ Singing all these sparkly golden dollar days ♪ 28 00:02:27,649 --> 00:02:34,154 ♪ Will wash our normal problems down the drain ♪ 29 00:02:36,924 --> 00:02:42,195 ♪ Right down the drain ♪ 30 00:02:44,866 --> 00:02:46,233 Had a knife on the drain board, 31 00:02:46,366 --> 00:02:47,835 a big Bowie knife, 32 00:02:47,969 --> 00:02:49,469 come around and they get me right in the neck. 33 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:51,773 And so I just reached up 34 00:02:51,906 --> 00:02:53,508 had a sheathing knife about this big 35 00:02:53,641 --> 00:02:55,308 because it-- it was for hunting, skinning. 36 00:02:55,442 --> 00:02:57,244 I just reached up and popped him one. 37 00:02:57,377 --> 00:02:58,646 So, he dropped the knife 38 00:02:58,780 --> 00:03:00,515 right in the shoulder, right there. 39 00:03:00,648 --> 00:03:01,516 - And so, he dropped the knife. - Help me. 40 00:03:03,651 --> 00:03:05,318 911, what is your emergency? 41 00:03:05,452 --> 00:03:07,287 It's Clifford Rich. 42 00:03:07,989 --> 00:03:09,624 Lady, goddamn it! 43 00:03:09,757 --> 00:03:11,491 I've been stabbed! 44 00:03:11,626 --> 00:03:14,294 Rodney fuckin' Bonnifield. 45 00:03:16,898 --> 00:03:19,734 No, I believe in God. God and country, I do. 46 00:03:21,435 --> 00:03:22,670 Nothin' wrong with that. 47 00:03:22,804 --> 00:03:23,905 No, nothing wrong with that. 48 00:03:24,038 --> 00:03:25,472 Least I know where I'm going. 49 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,675 A lot of people don't know where they're goin'. 50 00:03:27,809 --> 00:03:29,911 Think there's a big force. Well, guess what? 51 00:03:30,044 --> 00:03:32,980 I'd rather know where I'm goin' than not know where I'm goin'. 52 00:03:33,114 --> 00:03:36,517 So, I met Rod December of 2016. 53 00:03:36,651 --> 00:03:38,986 Rodney had been arrested on assault one, 54 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,356 uh, essentially a knife fight and, uh, bailed him out. 55 00:03:43,490 --> 00:03:45,258 But people come to bail companies 56 00:03:45,392 --> 00:03:46,594 because they're in a time of crisis. 57 00:03:46,728 --> 00:03:48,763 So, we facilitate individuals 58 00:03:48,896 --> 00:03:50,898 who are arrested and held. 59 00:03:51,032 --> 00:03:52,934 We negotiate with their friends and family 60 00:03:53,067 --> 00:03:55,837 and contractually bind them to attend their court hearings 61 00:03:55,970 --> 00:03:58,906 and if they fail to appear, then it's our job to go out 62 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,708 and find them and bring them back. 63 00:04:00,842 --> 00:04:01,943 Sorry, I'm not trying to be an asshole. 64 00:04:02,076 --> 00:04:03,477 -No, no. -Hey, we're not either. 65 00:04:03,611 --> 00:04:04,946 - I'm loaded. - So are we. 66 00:04:05,079 --> 00:04:06,547 My name's Mike Rocha. 67 00:04:06,681 --> 00:04:07,882 I'm a bondsman for All City Bail Bonds. 68 00:04:08,015 --> 00:04:09,382 I started doing recovery work 69 00:04:09,517 --> 00:04:10,651 when I turned 21-years-old. 70 00:04:10,785 --> 00:04:12,820 So, a long time, over 35 years. 71 00:04:13,221 --> 00:04:15,623 The difference between us and Dog the Bounty Hunter 72 00:04:15,757 --> 00:04:19,627 is that we are authorized and able to carry firearms. 73 00:04:23,798 --> 00:04:25,566 We typically like to work under the radar. 74 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:28,368 We will go out normally in the cover of dark, 75 00:04:28,503 --> 00:04:30,004 arrest the people that we need to... 76 00:04:30,138 --> 00:04:31,572 Full-auto. 77 00:04:31,706 --> 00:04:32,840 ...and do it in a real quiet manner. 78 00:04:37,912 --> 00:04:39,013 My brother, Carlos, 79 00:04:39,147 --> 00:04:40,581 is in the bail industry as well. 80 00:04:40,715 --> 00:04:42,517 I got introduced to the business 81 00:04:42,650 --> 00:04:46,020 with my brother 35 years ago doing some recovery. 82 00:04:50,191 --> 00:04:53,493 I absolutely love it, uh, everyday is interesting. 83 00:04:53,628 --> 00:04:55,930 Interesting characters, interesting scenarios, 84 00:04:56,063 --> 00:04:57,430 stuff that you're, just, not got gonna find 85 00:04:57,565 --> 00:04:58,633 at a regular job for sure. 86 00:05:00,968 --> 00:05:03,403 And I kissed the ground when he came to help me, 87 00:05:03,538 --> 00:05:05,506 that was it, I says, "That guy there, 88 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,543 he's a man to come and get me out of this mess." 89 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:11,546 And, so, I was out for two and a half years. 90 00:05:12,379 --> 00:05:13,948 I don't have any problem with anybody else. 91 00:05:14,081 --> 00:05:15,917 He wasn't fully funded on-- on the bond, 92 00:05:16,050 --> 00:05:19,053 so people put up some money, but he had to come back in 93 00:05:19,187 --> 00:05:21,556 time after time after time and make his payments 94 00:05:21,689 --> 00:05:22,790 and he never missed a payment. 95 00:05:23,191 --> 00:05:24,759 Uh, and, again, he could've taken off 96 00:05:24,892 --> 00:05:26,027 and gone up into the hills 97 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,895 and he'd be a hard guy to find. 98 00:05:28,029 --> 00:05:29,396 I says, "I'm not runnin' anywhere, 99 00:05:29,530 --> 00:05:30,865 I'm not guilty of this crime." 100 00:05:31,299 --> 00:05:32,800 He comes into the office 101 00:05:32,934 --> 00:05:34,902 and first he gives me his paperwork 102 00:05:35,036 --> 00:05:36,871 stating that he had taken a plea deal 103 00:05:37,004 --> 00:05:38,506 on the knife fight scenario. 104 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:40,473 I returned his collateral, which was, 105 00:05:40,608 --> 00:05:42,109 uh, I think four different vehicles. 106 00:05:42,243 --> 00:05:43,744 He gave me back my titles. 107 00:05:43,878 --> 00:05:45,112 He says you-- you made it, 108 00:05:45,246 --> 00:05:46,981 you did the right thing, you didn't run. 109 00:05:47,114 --> 00:05:49,517 And he goes, "Uh, I got something else to run by you." 110 00:05:49,650 --> 00:05:50,985 I says, uh, "I'm D.B. Cooper. 111 00:05:51,586 --> 00:05:53,521 "I been wanted for a long time." 112 00:05:55,422 --> 00:05:56,791 When he got on a plane 113 00:05:56,924 --> 00:05:58,759 in Portland, Oregon last night, 114 00:05:58,893 --> 00:06:00,061 he was just another passenger who gave his name 115 00:06:00,194 --> 00:06:02,096 as D.A. Cooper. 116 00:06:02,230 --> 00:06:04,532 But today, after hijacking a Northwest Airlines jet, 117 00:06:04,665 --> 00:06:06,834 then making a getaway by parachute, 118 00:06:06,968 --> 00:06:08,836 the description on one wire service: 119 00:06:08,970 --> 00:06:10,571 master criminal. 120 00:06:10,705 --> 00:06:12,006 I decided to come on out 121 00:06:12,139 --> 00:06:13,708 and tell the truth about everything. 122 00:06:14,275 --> 00:06:16,744 So the people that have a right to know who I am. 123 00:06:16,878 --> 00:06:18,746 He seemed rather nice, 124 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,149 other than he wanted certain things to be done. 125 00:06:22,283 --> 00:06:24,719 We were honoring his requests and, therefore, 126 00:06:24,852 --> 00:06:28,388 we made no attempt to impede his mission. 127 00:06:28,522 --> 00:06:29,724 In the early '70s, a hijacker 128 00:06:29,857 --> 00:06:31,659 calling himself D.B. Cooper 129 00:06:31,792 --> 00:06:33,426 jumped from an airliner in flight 130 00:06:33,561 --> 00:06:35,696 carrying 200,000 bucks in ransom cash 131 00:06:35,830 --> 00:06:38,566 and disappeared in the woods of the Pacific Northwest. 132 00:06:38,699 --> 00:06:41,869 His fate remained unknown, his true identity a mystery. 133 00:06:42,003 --> 00:06:44,839 That is, perhaps, until now. 134 00:06:44,972 --> 00:06:47,575 The people got a right to know who I am and what I am. 135 00:06:49,043 --> 00:06:50,077 And, uh... 136 00:06:51,245 --> 00:06:53,714 it was the time of the Vietnam War... 137 00:06:55,049 --> 00:06:56,817 it was a time-- it was a time of strife. 138 00:06:58,986 --> 00:07:01,689 Everything was going down, Martin Luther King got killed, 139 00:07:01,822 --> 00:07:02,990 died, 140 00:07:03,124 --> 00:07:05,126 Everything was going downhill. 141 00:07:05,660 --> 00:07:07,662 All right, everyone throw in, don't be cheap. 142 00:07:07,795 --> 00:07:09,429 All right, raising two. 143 00:07:09,563 --> 00:07:10,965 You guys, uh, been following those protests 144 00:07:11,098 --> 00:07:13,868 - in D.C.? - Yeah, oh yeah. 145 00:07:14,001 --> 00:07:17,138 Hey, you guys hear about that? Boys in blue? 146 00:07:17,271 --> 00:07:18,973 They couldn't hold it down, 147 00:07:19,106 --> 00:07:21,809 I mean, they had to send in the fucking US Military. 148 00:07:21,943 --> 00:07:24,011 Landing every three minutes, 149 00:07:24,145 --> 00:07:25,813 I mean, can you fucking believe this shit? 150 00:07:25,947 --> 00:07:27,748 That's government, man! 151 00:07:27,882 --> 00:07:29,817 - Right? Come on! - Are you kidding me? 152 00:07:29,951 --> 00:07:32,186 America is the land of opportunity 153 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,955 and you can bet your sweet ass 154 00:07:34,088 --> 00:07:36,791 that if these guys are taking from the pot, 155 00:07:36,924 --> 00:07:38,526 then so am I! 156 00:07:38,659 --> 00:07:40,493 Cheers to that shit, fuckin'-A man. 157 00:07:40,628 --> 00:07:42,029 To the money, boys! 158 00:07:42,163 --> 00:07:43,164 I don't know, I liked the easy money. 159 00:07:43,297 --> 00:07:44,865 I had money all the time. 160 00:07:44,999 --> 00:07:46,834 The more money I made, the happier I was. 161 00:07:47,601 --> 00:07:49,236 I had some nice hotrods in those days, 162 00:07:49,370 --> 00:07:52,640 I mean, I had cars worth $10,000 163 00:07:52,773 --> 00:07:54,575 and I enjoyed myself. 164 00:07:54,976 --> 00:07:57,878 And cocaine was coming in from Panama. 165 00:07:58,012 --> 00:08:00,715 Goddamn, that shit is good, Rodney! 166 00:08:00,848 --> 00:08:01,816 You like that? 167 00:08:01,949 --> 00:08:03,784 I get that from Panama. 168 00:08:03,918 --> 00:08:05,653 Had plenty of cocaine if we wanted, but it was-- 169 00:08:05,786 --> 00:08:07,688 it was like, uh, going out, dancing, 170 00:08:07,822 --> 00:08:10,691 having fun with all the women and enjoying yourselves. 171 00:08:10,825 --> 00:08:12,226 I can't wait to be in your arms again, babe. 172 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:13,794 Uh, I can't wait either. 173 00:08:13,928 --> 00:08:15,730 I had a way to talk to 'em. 174 00:08:15,863 --> 00:08:17,231 I had a way to communicate with women. 175 00:08:17,365 --> 00:08:18,899 You have to have communication with women 176 00:08:19,033 --> 00:08:20,101 otherwise you ain't gonna get 'em. 177 00:08:20,234 --> 00:08:21,869 No communicate? No woman. 178 00:08:22,003 --> 00:08:23,804 And of course, you know about what's her name 179 00:08:23,938 --> 00:08:25,606 that did the song. 180 00:08:25,740 --> 00:08:28,109 Well, hi, I'm Rita Coolidge and I'm a singer, 181 00:08:28,242 --> 00:08:30,811 I sing country music, and, well, 182 00:08:30,945 --> 00:08:33,647 I just put out a record Anytime, Anywhere. 183 00:08:34,248 --> 00:08:37,618 And sometimes I act on-- on screen as well. 184 00:08:37,752 --> 00:08:40,521 Met her in Lake Tahoe, she was singin' at a bar 185 00:08:40,654 --> 00:08:43,524 and then we had an affair for a couple days. 186 00:08:44,225 --> 00:08:47,228 Well, Rodney had this lone wolf 187 00:08:47,361 --> 00:08:49,730 kinda mystery about him. 188 00:08:51,032 --> 00:08:53,868 Like he had a secret or somethin'. 189 00:08:54,001 --> 00:08:55,302 You know, I was thinkin'... 190 00:08:57,972 --> 00:08:59,707 "You should come to Denver with me." 191 00:09:00,174 --> 00:09:01,976 So, you said she wrote a song for you? 192 00:09:02,109 --> 00:09:04,111 Yeah, Run-- "Run, D.B., Run" 193 00:09:04,245 --> 00:09:05,746 Can you sing a little bit of it? 194 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,648 Uh, well, I was in the, uh, 195 00:09:07,782 --> 00:09:10,284 Hard Rock Café in Lake Tahoe when the-- 196 00:09:10,418 --> 00:09:12,186 the song came out and it says, 197 00:09:12,319 --> 00:09:16,190 ♪ Run D.B. run keep on running D.B. ♪ 198 00:09:16,957 --> 00:09:18,325 I mean, he's not a flight risk 199 00:09:18,459 --> 00:09:19,927 obviously. 200 00:09:20,061 --> 00:09:21,929 I mean, he's-- he's not going anywhere. 201 00:09:22,063 --> 00:09:23,998 Other than the fact that he-- I mean, he reoffended, uh-- 202 00:09:24,131 --> 00:09:25,766 Doing what we do, 203 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:27,134 you're exposed to a lot of different people. 204 00:09:27,268 --> 00:09:28,869 And a lot of people lie to you. 205 00:09:29,003 --> 00:09:31,005 So, one of the things that we pride ourself on 206 00:09:31,138 --> 00:09:32,973 is being able to cipher through people who lie 207 00:09:33,107 --> 00:09:34,842 versus people who don't. 208 00:09:34,975 --> 00:09:37,044 And when Carlos told me this story, he was-- he was-- 209 00:09:37,178 --> 00:09:39,713 I could feel the excitement within him 210 00:09:39,847 --> 00:09:41,582 and by the time dinner was halfway through, 211 00:09:41,715 --> 00:09:43,684 my mouth was wide open and I couldn't, 212 00:09:43,818 --> 00:09:46,187 you know, believe the detailed events 213 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,721 that were being described. 214 00:09:47,855 --> 00:09:50,658 He's got lots of crazy stories, um, 215 00:09:50,791 --> 00:09:52,593 but as I tried to vet them out, 216 00:09:52,726 --> 00:09:54,795 they-- they all seem like they're-- they're legit. 217 00:09:54,929 --> 00:09:58,265 Him and Don have, uh, some, uh, mining claims... 218 00:09:59,233 --> 00:10:00,768 up in the mountains 219 00:10:00,901 --> 00:10:02,069 and, uh, I've been able to validate that. 220 00:10:02,436 --> 00:10:03,971 We're gold miners too, you know. 221 00:10:04,105 --> 00:10:05,806 Oh, really? 222 00:10:05,940 --> 00:10:07,308 Oh, yeah, we own a gold mine in the mountains there. 223 00:10:07,441 --> 00:10:10,344 Bazooka Gold Mining Company, LLC. 224 00:10:10,878 --> 00:10:12,980 Uh, I did my research, he owned the claims, 225 00:10:13,114 --> 00:10:14,882 he brought in the ore, he brought in the, uh, 226 00:10:15,015 --> 00:10:16,383 the geological assessment. 227 00:10:16,518 --> 00:10:18,919 Here's our gold strike, here's the vein. 228 00:10:19,053 --> 00:10:20,821 This is how massive it is. 229 00:10:20,955 --> 00:10:23,691 This is my great grandfather, Sam Bonnifield. 230 00:10:23,824 --> 00:10:25,826 This is Remington that made the rifles. 231 00:10:26,227 --> 00:10:28,996 And there's 2,600 pounds of gold 232 00:10:29,130 --> 00:10:31,031 and this is going to Seattle. 233 00:10:31,165 --> 00:10:34,768 And they surveyed all of Alaska and I've got the map. 234 00:10:34,902 --> 00:10:36,704 I have a Bonnifield Region up there. 235 00:10:36,837 --> 00:10:39,306 260 miles of that country is ours. 236 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,642 They've been rich, they've been broke, 237 00:10:41,775 --> 00:10:43,077 they've been rich again, they've been broke, 238 00:10:43,210 --> 00:10:44,912 they've had lots of adventures. 239 00:10:45,045 --> 00:10:47,381 I mean I've been to the-- I've been to the farm. 240 00:10:48,949 --> 00:10:51,752 He, for the last 35ish years 241 00:10:51,886 --> 00:10:53,187 has lived on a dairy farm. 242 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,656 Incognito, uh, with a friend of his. 243 00:10:55,789 --> 00:10:57,324 We're, uh, in Washington State 244 00:10:57,458 --> 00:10:58,959 near the Skagit River. 245 00:10:59,093 --> 00:11:00,361 The place is, uh, peace and harmony, 246 00:11:00,494 --> 00:11:02,229 good-willed men, a good place to live. 247 00:11:02,363 --> 00:11:04,298 We always come ready to go here. 248 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,003 Because you don't get a second chance out here. 249 00:11:09,136 --> 00:11:10,171 380. 250 00:11:11,739 --> 00:11:14,108 Just like that. Live with Don Lee at the farm. 251 00:11:14,241 --> 00:11:16,043 Hell of a guy. 252 00:11:16,177 --> 00:11:18,812 My great grandfather actually homesteaded this farm. 253 00:11:18,946 --> 00:11:21,448 Started milking cows as a sophomore in high school. 254 00:11:21,583 --> 00:11:24,752 We got this farm kinda rockin' and rollin' for a while 255 00:11:24,885 --> 00:11:27,087 and then all these people that are poor come here 256 00:11:27,221 --> 00:11:28,756 and mess things up. 257 00:11:28,889 --> 00:11:30,157 There's crazy characters that come and go. 258 00:11:30,291 --> 00:11:32,326 It is absolutely, 100% certain 259 00:11:32,459 --> 00:11:34,328 that he was in a knife fight and stabbed a guy. 260 00:11:34,461 --> 00:11:37,464 I do not, uh, have any problems with anybody 261 00:11:37,599 --> 00:11:38,966 that don't wanna give me a problem. 262 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:41,735 They give me a problem, I give 'em a problem back. 263 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:44,905 Knives or guns, it don't matter. 264 00:11:45,039 --> 00:11:48,475 Oh! Oh, fuck! 265 00:11:50,579 --> 00:11:53,981 This Clifford Rich was staying by my place there. 266 00:11:54,114 --> 00:11:56,016 He was hanging around Don Lee's house. 267 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:58,852 And I asked Cliff if he wanted to help me 268 00:11:58,986 --> 00:12:00,754 paint my house. 269 00:12:00,888 --> 00:12:02,456 So, Rod said "He's a painter, he's a good painter." 270 00:12:02,591 --> 00:12:05,125 He was an evil sucker, you know? 271 00:12:05,527 --> 00:12:07,361 He was out raping kids and women, 272 00:12:07,494 --> 00:12:09,363 I says, "I don't want nothing to do with you no more." 273 00:12:09,496 --> 00:12:11,098 I found out about it, I says, 274 00:12:11,232 --> 00:12:12,800 "I don't want nothing to do with you anymore." 275 00:12:12,933 --> 00:12:14,401 So, I told Don, "Get him out of the house." 276 00:12:14,536 --> 00:12:16,136 There are several stories about what happened 277 00:12:16,270 --> 00:12:18,839 between Rodney and Clifford, but apparently 278 00:12:18,973 --> 00:12:20,741 Clifford went after Rodney with a machete. 279 00:12:20,874 --> 00:12:23,177 It was one just like this except it's all black. 280 00:12:23,310 --> 00:12:24,778 Well, I took him out anyway. 281 00:12:24,912 --> 00:12:25,846 From the criminal perspective, 282 00:12:25,980 --> 00:12:27,515 you know, it's legit. 283 00:12:27,649 --> 00:12:29,183 He spoke of being a teamster, which, at one time, 284 00:12:29,316 --> 00:12:31,085 he was a teamster, I know that for a fact, 285 00:12:31,218 --> 00:12:32,486 but he said he was very connected 286 00:12:32,621 --> 00:12:34,021 with the mob, 287 00:12:34,154 --> 00:12:35,356 did a lot of strong-arm stuff, 288 00:12:35,489 --> 00:12:36,524 you know, on behalf of the union. 289 00:12:40,562 --> 00:12:42,463 I was working the docks 290 00:12:42,597 --> 00:12:43,831 with the teamsters. 291 00:12:44,298 --> 00:12:46,000 And then Jimmy Hoffa got murdered 292 00:12:46,133 --> 00:12:47,768 and then they called me up said we need a favor. 293 00:12:48,269 --> 00:12:49,770 We'll meet you at Magnolia Bluff. 294 00:12:50,271 --> 00:12:53,474 We met out, we need to strike this waterfront, it's 1972. 295 00:12:53,608 --> 00:12:54,875 They picked me... 296 00:12:56,043 --> 00:12:57,244 to help 'em do it. 297 00:12:57,378 --> 00:12:59,413 And this is, uh, John Fitzsimmons. 298 00:12:59,547 --> 00:13:01,148 - Fitzsimmons? - How you doin'? 299 00:13:01,282 --> 00:13:02,316 All right. 300 00:13:03,551 --> 00:13:06,820 All right, every Thursday at 3:00 p.m., 301 00:13:06,954 --> 00:13:10,190 a 48-foot sea vessel by the name of Lucy docks here. 302 00:13:10,991 --> 00:13:13,894 You will process all drop offs from Lucy 303 00:13:14,028 --> 00:13:16,096 under the name John Alexander. 304 00:13:16,864 --> 00:13:19,867 Once complete, you will phone me directly. 305 00:13:20,635 --> 00:13:23,337 -Is that clear? -Crystal. 306 00:13:23,904 --> 00:13:25,540 Your assistance will not be forgotten. 307 00:13:29,376 --> 00:13:30,944 I suppose we'll be in touch then. 308 00:13:31,546 --> 00:13:33,080 That is a fact. 309 00:13:34,315 --> 00:13:35,550 So, what do you have to say 310 00:13:35,684 --> 00:13:37,451 to the people that are-- 311 00:13:37,585 --> 00:13:40,954 that-- that might think that you aren't D.B. Cooper. 312 00:13:41,322 --> 00:13:43,290 Well, I could care less, I did the job. 313 00:13:43,424 --> 00:13:45,059 There've been a lot of people over the years 314 00:13:45,192 --> 00:13:46,960 who've claimed to be D.B. Cooper. 315 00:13:47,094 --> 00:13:50,064 Probably the most recognizable would be Mr. Rackshaw, 316 00:13:50,197 --> 00:13:52,132 but he can't fill in the blanks like Rodney. 317 00:13:52,266 --> 00:13:53,500 In fact, none of the people 318 00:13:53,635 --> 00:13:55,436 who've claimed to be D.B. Cooper 319 00:13:55,570 --> 00:13:57,505 can fill in the slots like Rodney can. 320 00:13:57,639 --> 00:14:00,608 There's-- there's, just, too much minutia there 321 00:14:00,742 --> 00:14:02,843 for this to be in his head and not be real. 322 00:14:04,512 --> 00:14:06,413 I came right down the Columbia River 323 00:14:06,548 --> 00:14:08,248 at Tena Bar 324 00:14:08,382 --> 00:14:10,351 and there's a cove in there and I looked at the cove 325 00:14:10,484 --> 00:14:12,920 when I was comin' down, I landed right in the sands. 326 00:14:13,053 --> 00:14:15,456 I left $5,880 on the beach 327 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:17,391 and I took $300 more out 328 00:14:17,525 --> 00:14:19,993 and that leaves $193,000 left 329 00:14:20,127 --> 00:14:21,563 somewhat, in dollars. 330 00:14:21,696 --> 00:14:23,364 It's on that beach right now. 331 00:14:23,497 --> 00:14:25,533 So, if I find the rock, we're gonna dig it up 332 00:14:25,667 --> 00:14:27,368 and we'll get that money. 333 00:14:27,502 --> 00:14:29,069 And the only reason I thought it had credibility 334 00:14:29,203 --> 00:14:30,471 enough to at least pursue a little bit, 335 00:14:30,605 --> 00:14:32,373 do some research and then bring Mike in 336 00:14:32,507 --> 00:14:34,576 was the fact that he was gonna bring the money to me. 337 00:14:34,709 --> 00:14:37,144 He was gonna set the money on the desk 338 00:14:37,277 --> 00:14:39,581 and then from there he wanted me to do something 339 00:14:39,714 --> 00:14:41,248 with the cash. 340 00:14:41,382 --> 00:14:42,584 My plan is probably to go underground, 341 00:14:42,717 --> 00:14:44,051 sell some of the money, you know? 342 00:14:44,184 --> 00:14:46,019 But, that's business. 343 00:14:46,153 --> 00:14:48,222 Why not? It's my money. I took it. 344 00:14:48,355 --> 00:14:50,224 And, uh, if I get somebody to help me sell it, 345 00:14:50,357 --> 00:14:51,959 then fine, dandy, I get it sold. 346 00:14:52,326 --> 00:14:53,528 So, Rod had an idea 347 00:14:53,661 --> 00:14:55,362 of what the value of the money was 348 00:14:55,496 --> 00:14:57,297 and it was an inflated amount based off the fact 349 00:14:57,431 --> 00:15:00,167 that a kid had been camping down on the river, 350 00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:02,002 actually found some money, 351 00:15:02,136 --> 00:15:05,305 and then selling the money at a much higher value 352 00:15:05,439 --> 00:15:07,007 than what the actual face is. 353 00:15:07,609 --> 00:15:10,545 So, did you bury the $5,800 immediately? 354 00:15:10,678 --> 00:15:12,146 Yes. 355 00:15:12,279 --> 00:15:14,081 The reason why, I always leave a tip. 356 00:15:14,783 --> 00:15:16,417 So that they thought I'd gone in the river. 357 00:15:16,551 --> 00:15:19,386 I put the money there, in all 20s, 358 00:15:19,521 --> 00:15:21,088 I put 'em in a stack. 359 00:15:21,221 --> 00:15:22,923 Why that amount of money? 360 00:15:23,056 --> 00:15:24,425 I don't know, I just reached in the bag 361 00:15:24,559 --> 00:15:26,093 and grabbed whatever I had, and counted it, 362 00:15:26,226 --> 00:15:28,696 it was $5,880 and I went, "Okay, that's-- 363 00:15:28,830 --> 00:15:30,464 somebody will find this, some fisherman 364 00:15:30,598 --> 00:15:32,266 or some hiker or-- 365 00:15:32,399 --> 00:15:34,101 well, they didn't find it for nine more years. 366 00:15:34,234 --> 00:15:35,637 Then the Dwayne Ingrum family 367 00:15:35,770 --> 00:15:37,171 entered the picture last February. 368 00:15:37,304 --> 00:15:39,206 I was gonna build a fire 369 00:15:39,339 --> 00:15:40,675 and I had some wood in my arm 370 00:15:40,809 --> 00:15:42,644 and I got ready to set it down 371 00:15:42,777 --> 00:15:44,411 and my son ran up and said, "Wait a minute, Daddy." 372 00:15:44,546 --> 00:15:47,114 So, he raked a place out in the sand 373 00:15:47,247 --> 00:15:49,551 and there it was, it kinda tumbled up on the top. 374 00:15:49,684 --> 00:15:51,619 What his young son found 375 00:15:51,753 --> 00:15:53,287 was part of Cooper's loot. 376 00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:55,255 Badly decomposed, in bundles, 377 00:15:55,389 --> 00:15:57,725 still in the same order when packed nine years ago. 378 00:15:57,859 --> 00:16:00,194 The Columbia River is a massive river. 379 00:16:00,327 --> 00:16:02,697 And it's an ever-changing riverbank. 380 00:16:02,831 --> 00:16:05,567 This is where large shipping vessels come through 381 00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:08,302 and bring product to and from other countries 382 00:16:08,435 --> 00:16:09,704 and distribute it around the world. 383 00:16:09,838 --> 00:16:12,039 So, they have to continually dredge it 384 00:16:12,172 --> 00:16:14,041 and make sure that it's clear for the shipping lanes. 385 00:16:14,174 --> 00:16:17,010 Dredging is done in a lot of major waterways 386 00:16:17,144 --> 00:16:18,713 and that's to keep the waterway open 387 00:16:18,847 --> 00:16:20,380 for commerce 388 00:16:20,515 --> 00:16:22,382 because it's not that deep 389 00:16:22,517 --> 00:16:24,117 and they have to dig out that waterway year after year. 390 00:16:24,251 --> 00:16:27,254 Rodney described his burying of the $5,800 391 00:16:27,387 --> 00:16:30,357 to be in a very shallow area because he did it very hastily 392 00:16:30,491 --> 00:16:33,060 and scientists in 2020 determined 393 00:16:33,193 --> 00:16:35,630 that there was algae found on the money 394 00:16:35,763 --> 00:16:38,566 that could've only been there during a spring bloom. 395 00:16:38,933 --> 00:16:40,602 So, it's-- it's possible that the money, 396 00:16:40,735 --> 00:16:44,104 having been buried in a shallow area, 397 00:16:44,238 --> 00:16:47,509 later on, after a dredging, was exposed to the water, 398 00:16:47,642 --> 00:16:51,546 thus exposing it to the algae that only blooms in the spring. 399 00:16:51,679 --> 00:16:53,113 That's key, 400 00:16:53,247 --> 00:16:55,048 because it means the ransom money 401 00:16:55,182 --> 00:16:56,584 entered the water months after Cooper jumped. 402 00:16:56,718 --> 00:16:58,485 For instance, Kay says it scuttles 403 00:16:58,620 --> 00:17:01,188 the FBI's original theory in the 1980s 404 00:17:01,321 --> 00:17:03,123 that the ransom money flowed from rivers 405 00:17:03,257 --> 00:17:05,660 in the suspected drop zone near Lake Merwin 406 00:17:05,793 --> 00:17:07,427 down through the Washougal River 407 00:17:07,562 --> 00:17:09,329 to the Columbia. 408 00:17:09,463 --> 00:17:11,265 The so-called "Washougal Wash Down Theory." 409 00:17:11,398 --> 00:17:13,367 The money was not floating in the water for a year, 410 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:15,068 otherwise we would've seen diatoms 411 00:17:15,202 --> 00:17:16,538 from the full range of the year. 412 00:17:16,671 --> 00:17:18,540 We only saw them from the spring-- 413 00:17:18,673 --> 00:17:20,240 springtime bloom. 414 00:17:20,374 --> 00:17:22,544 So this puts a very narrow range 415 00:17:22,677 --> 00:17:24,378 on when the money got wet 416 00:17:24,512 --> 00:17:26,313 and was subsequently buried on Tena Bar. 417 00:17:26,446 --> 00:17:27,749 Rodney knew all kinds of specifics 418 00:17:27,882 --> 00:17:29,751 about-- about the hijacking. 419 00:17:29,884 --> 00:17:31,451 What were you wearing that day? 420 00:17:31,586 --> 00:17:34,556 I wore a sports jacket, penny loafers, 421 00:17:34,689 --> 00:17:37,190 black tie, which belonged to my dad. 422 00:17:37,324 --> 00:17:38,726 The one piece of physical evidence 423 00:17:38,860 --> 00:17:41,529 that really yielded something substantial 424 00:17:41,663 --> 00:17:44,632 was the fact that the tie was analyzed at the time 425 00:17:44,766 --> 00:17:46,500 and throughout the years continued to be analyzed 426 00:17:46,634 --> 00:17:48,201 as technology got better 427 00:17:48,335 --> 00:17:49,837 and titanium was one of the major alloys 428 00:17:49,971 --> 00:17:52,139 found on it. 429 00:17:52,272 --> 00:17:54,441 The periodical table of clues, say scientists, 430 00:17:54,576 --> 00:17:58,111 suggests Cooper had access to a manufacturing company 431 00:17:58,245 --> 00:18:01,181 that made airplanes, like the one he jumped from. 432 00:18:01,315 --> 00:18:04,318 Perhaps a company with a connection to Boeing. 433 00:18:04,451 --> 00:18:07,354 Rodney did identify the fact that that tie was his father's 434 00:18:07,487 --> 00:18:08,523 and that he did work at Boeing. 435 00:18:08,656 --> 00:18:10,324 Uh, he had the-- 436 00:18:10,457 --> 00:18:12,694 the times down to specifics. 437 00:18:12,827 --> 00:18:15,228 Exact time frame, uh, 438 00:18:15,362 --> 00:18:17,397 that lines up with-- with what, um, 439 00:18:17,532 --> 00:18:18,733 the authorities have. 440 00:18:18,866 --> 00:18:20,635 Left Portland about 4:30, 441 00:18:20,768 --> 00:18:22,637 it was getting kinda dark, it was during the winter. 442 00:18:22,770 --> 00:18:24,806 And then we got up in the air and it was raining. 443 00:18:24,939 --> 00:18:26,841 They seated me in 18E in the back 444 00:18:26,975 --> 00:18:28,676 near the stewardess. 445 00:18:28,810 --> 00:18:30,578 He knew the type of cigarettes that were smoked. 446 00:18:30,712 --> 00:18:32,446 Did they allow you to smoke 447 00:18:32,580 --> 00:18:34,448 - back in the day on airplanes? - Yes, they did. 448 00:18:34,582 --> 00:18:36,483 I smoked about eight Raleigh's, but I just barely smoked them. 449 00:18:36,618 --> 00:18:38,118 I was nervous. 450 00:18:39,621 --> 00:18:41,889 The-- the cocktails that were ordered-- 451 00:18:42,023 --> 00:18:45,392 I ordered me a bourbon and they brought me a double. 452 00:18:45,526 --> 00:18:46,794 Can I get you anything? 453 00:18:46,928 --> 00:18:48,362 Uh, yes. 454 00:18:48,495 --> 00:18:50,197 I'll take a bourbon on the rocks 455 00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:53,433 and if you could keep those coming 456 00:18:53,568 --> 00:18:55,402 until the plane lands or I jump out of it, 457 00:18:55,536 --> 00:18:56,804 that'd be great. 458 00:18:56,938 --> 00:18:58,405 I'll make it a double, how 'bout that? 459 00:18:58,539 --> 00:18:59,874 And the more I looked into it, 460 00:19:00,008 --> 00:19:01,643 the more I thought, "Well, he's either 461 00:19:01,776 --> 00:19:04,512 the most well-versed D.B. Cooper fanatic 462 00:19:04,646 --> 00:19:07,314 that I've ever met or even heard of, 463 00:19:07,447 --> 00:19:09,316 um, or he's D.B. Cooper." 464 00:19:09,449 --> 00:19:12,152 It's hard to look somebody in the eye 465 00:19:12,285 --> 00:19:15,823 who is so sincere about their story 466 00:19:15,957 --> 00:19:18,693 and discount it or, 467 00:19:18,826 --> 00:19:20,427 um, call them a liar. 468 00:19:20,561 --> 00:19:21,863 The guy's a character, 469 00:19:21,996 --> 00:19:23,531 and he's just enough of a character 470 00:19:23,665 --> 00:19:25,232 to have jumped out of an airplane, uh, 471 00:19:25,365 --> 00:19:27,300 being suicidal with nothing to lose and-- 472 00:19:27,434 --> 00:19:29,504 and, you know, pulling it off. 473 00:19:29,637 --> 00:19:32,740 I'm inclined to believe that-- that he's the guy. 474 00:19:33,306 --> 00:19:34,876 I wanna believe he's the guy. 475 00:19:35,009 --> 00:19:36,611 Reintroducing it to myself, you know, 476 00:19:36,744 --> 00:19:37,912 I-- I start to realize some of the details 477 00:19:38,046 --> 00:19:39,547 that were out there. 478 00:19:39,681 --> 00:19:42,215 And when he added to those details, 479 00:19:42,349 --> 00:19:44,251 it-- it was very convincing. 480 00:19:44,384 --> 00:19:46,821 He's either convinced himself that it's real 481 00:19:46,954 --> 00:19:48,221 or it's real. 482 00:19:48,589 --> 00:19:50,490 So, with that, it's-- 483 00:19:50,625 --> 00:19:52,593 it's worth coming to take a look. 484 00:19:53,661 --> 00:19:55,530 So, after some deliberation, 485 00:19:55,663 --> 00:19:58,265 Mike and I decided that maybe we should go down 486 00:19:58,398 --> 00:19:59,901 and dig up this money. 487 00:20:00,034 --> 00:20:01,703 We're going on an exploratory mission here 488 00:20:01,836 --> 00:20:05,439 to see if he is the guy to confirm or not 489 00:20:05,573 --> 00:20:08,509 whether he's the person who hijacked an airplane in, 490 00:20:08,643 --> 00:20:10,912 you know, in 1971, a long time ago. 491 00:20:11,045 --> 00:20:12,580 So, there's a lot of questions 492 00:20:12,714 --> 00:20:14,314 and there's a lot of mystery around it. 493 00:20:14,448 --> 00:20:15,783 If I'm not mistaken, it's the only unsolved 494 00:20:15,917 --> 00:20:17,752 hijacking in the history of the world. 495 00:20:18,186 --> 00:20:21,656 Uh, and-- and that has to have some interest. 496 00:20:21,789 --> 00:20:23,490 There's some sex appeal to that. 497 00:20:23,624 --> 00:20:25,358 I mean, it's almost like treasure hunting. 498 00:20:25,492 --> 00:20:26,861 I think everybody has a little kid inside of them 499 00:20:26,994 --> 00:20:29,329 that loves the idea of going and finding 500 00:20:29,463 --> 00:20:30,932 some buried treasure, 501 00:20:31,065 --> 00:20:32,567 and that's exactly what we're gonna try to do. 502 00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:34,367 I mean, I think he's getting to the-- 503 00:20:34,502 --> 00:20:36,403 to the end of life and he wants people to know. 504 00:20:37,138 --> 00:20:38,840 And he might not have the opportunity 505 00:20:38,973 --> 00:20:40,508 to tell this story 'cause we're within two weeks 506 00:20:40,641 --> 00:20:43,343 of him potentially going to prison, so 507 00:20:43,477 --> 00:20:45,479 the time is growing short. 508 00:20:45,613 --> 00:20:47,314 Uh, 9:30 tomorrow, I'm supposed to have a court date, 509 00:20:47,447 --> 00:20:48,649 I'm not gonna show up. 510 00:20:48,783 --> 00:20:50,484 And on May 9th, my mom's birthday, 511 00:20:50,618 --> 00:20:51,953 my brother's birthday, 512 00:20:52,086 --> 00:20:53,453 and my daughter's birthday is May 9th. 513 00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:55,990 I'm not going to court to get sentenced on May 9. 514 00:20:56,124 --> 00:20:57,825 He's been going to court 515 00:20:57,959 --> 00:21:00,595 and the prosecutor wants to put him away 516 00:21:00,728 --> 00:21:02,997 for something that he should be given 517 00:21:03,131 --> 00:21:04,699 an award for. 518 00:21:04,832 --> 00:21:06,768 And the fact is, he is a life-long criminal. 519 00:21:06,901 --> 00:21:08,936 I mean, he lives and thinks like a criminal. 520 00:21:09,070 --> 00:21:10,571 that's the way he's wired. 521 00:21:10,972 --> 00:21:13,273 Uh, now he's calmed down, he's trying to find peace 522 00:21:13,406 --> 00:21:15,275 in his-- his-- his later years. 523 00:21:15,408 --> 00:21:16,744 And you ask about his bad upbringing, 524 00:21:16,878 --> 00:21:18,311 he didn't have a bad upbringing, 525 00:21:18,445 --> 00:21:19,747 he told you he was born a criminal. 526 00:21:19,881 --> 00:21:21,314 So when you were a kid 527 00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:22,717 you always wanted to be a-- a-- 528 00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:24,484 -a gangster? -Yeah. I was born one. 529 00:21:25,753 --> 00:21:28,656 My mom's given me birth at Chief Seattle Statue 530 00:21:28,790 --> 00:21:30,658 rushed me to the West Seattle Hospital, 531 00:21:30,792 --> 00:21:32,059 and that's where I was born. 532 00:21:32,627 --> 00:21:34,629 He was a very busy little boy. 533 00:21:34,762 --> 00:21:37,364 He was always into many different things. 534 00:21:37,497 --> 00:21:38,766 He was an asshole. 535 00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:40,467 Can you take us back 536 00:21:40,601 --> 00:21:42,069 to your first experience with criminal activity? 537 00:21:42,203 --> 00:21:43,671 Okay, I go into an ice cream parlor, 538 00:21:43,805 --> 00:21:45,472 I was five and a half years old, 539 00:21:45,606 --> 00:21:47,008 I didn't have the money to pay for the ice cream, 540 00:21:47,141 --> 00:21:48,709 so while she went out to use the restroom, 541 00:21:48,843 --> 00:21:50,578 I got the two ice creams and I took the till 542 00:21:50,711 --> 00:21:52,580 and opened it up and got all the money out the till 543 00:21:52,713 --> 00:21:54,314 and walked right out. 544 00:22:16,704 --> 00:22:18,039 Hey! What're you doing! 545 00:22:18,172 --> 00:22:19,907 Kid! Hey! 546 00:22:20,041 --> 00:22:21,642 He-- 547 00:22:21,776 --> 00:22:24,846 he thought of lots of ways to, um, make money. 548 00:22:24,979 --> 00:22:26,479 He was a thief. 549 00:22:26,614 --> 00:22:29,050 ♪ Come on, gimme a reason ♪ 550 00:22:29,183 --> 00:22:31,552 ♪ To make me stay ♪ 551 00:22:31,686 --> 00:22:33,788 ♪ And if you come beggin' ♪ 552 00:22:33,921 --> 00:22:35,089 I robbed my first beer truck 553 00:22:35,223 --> 00:22:36,757 when I was 13. 554 00:22:36,891 --> 00:22:40,695 way, and I robbed it. 555 00:22:40,828 --> 00:22:43,631 Took the kegs off it, me and this other kid. 556 00:22:50,137 --> 00:22:51,839 Jackpot! 557 00:22:51,973 --> 00:22:54,008 -He was a little entrepreneur. -A little bastard. 558 00:22:54,141 --> 00:22:55,843 And the 18 and 19 year olds 559 00:22:55,977 --> 00:22:57,511 would buy my beer from me back then 560 00:22:57,645 --> 00:22:58,880 so I had money all the time. 561 00:22:59,013 --> 00:23:01,549 Welcome! Ten bucks a keg, you hounds. 562 00:23:02,850 --> 00:23:04,719 Come on, cough it up. 563 00:23:04,852 --> 00:23:06,654 It's a good day to be in the beer business, 564 00:23:06,787 --> 00:23:08,488 suckers. 565 00:23:08,623 --> 00:23:09,557 When did you notice a change 566 00:23:09,690 --> 00:23:10,758 in Rodney? 567 00:23:11,125 --> 00:23:12,693 -I-- -Uh-- 568 00:23:12,827 --> 00:23:14,494 I don't wanna talk about-- Can we just-- 569 00:23:14,629 --> 00:23:16,530 I think we need to move on to a different question. 570 00:23:16,664 --> 00:23:20,801 Rodney. Take your pills and go to bed. 571 00:23:22,803 --> 00:23:25,006 No more magazines! 572 00:23:25,472 --> 00:23:27,975 -That kid. -What's he doin' now? 573 00:23:28,109 --> 00:23:30,745 He won't stop with the magazines. 574 00:23:30,878 --> 00:23:32,680 What kinda mag-- are they Playboys? 575 00:23:33,581 --> 00:23:34,649 I'm missing some Playboys. 576 00:23:35,249 --> 00:23:37,585 Oh, I don't know. I never thought of that. 577 00:23:38,085 --> 00:23:41,022 I-- I guess it's better than Playgirl. 578 00:23:41,155 --> 00:23:42,990 Oh, gosh, I don't wanna have to worry about that. 579 00:23:45,226 --> 00:23:46,493 You know, uh... 580 00:23:47,328 --> 00:23:49,462 I got another call from the principal today. 581 00:23:49,964 --> 00:23:51,431 No-- 582 00:23:51,565 --> 00:23:52,133 They're thinking about kicking Rod out. 583 00:23:52,967 --> 00:23:54,502 I told you 584 00:23:54,635 --> 00:23:57,038 that he is not taking his medicine 585 00:23:57,171 --> 00:23:59,674 and when he doesn't take his medicine, 586 00:23:59,807 --> 00:24:01,208 he goes bonkers. 587 00:24:01,342 --> 00:24:02,475 I don't like when he takes that medicine-- 588 00:24:02,610 --> 00:24:03,945 I know-- 589 00:24:04,078 --> 00:24:05,846 He doesn't need anything to calm him down. 590 00:24:05,980 --> 00:24:07,748 I don't know what else to do. 591 00:24:10,284 --> 00:24:11,552 Military school? 592 00:24:14,121 --> 00:24:15,790 If you can convince him. 593 00:24:15,923 --> 00:24:17,558 I don't think we should give him a gun. 594 00:24:17,692 --> 00:24:19,093 We've got things 595 00:24:19,226 --> 00:24:21,529 that we may or may not need tomorrow. 596 00:24:21,662 --> 00:24:23,164 Um, we've got guns 597 00:24:23,297 --> 00:24:25,199 just to make sure that we're safe 598 00:24:25,333 --> 00:24:27,234 and that everybody's safe 'cause we have no idea, 599 00:24:27,368 --> 00:24:29,003 really, what we're up against. 600 00:24:29,136 --> 00:24:31,772 This guy claims to be a life-long criminal, 601 00:24:31,906 --> 00:24:34,608 so we have no idea what he's capable of 602 00:24:34,742 --> 00:24:36,677 or who his affiliations are. 603 00:24:36,811 --> 00:24:38,212 So, he could have people out there 604 00:24:38,346 --> 00:24:40,147 waiting for us to bring it back to the hotel, 605 00:24:40,281 --> 00:24:43,084 people that track us to the dig site. 606 00:24:43,217 --> 00:24:46,954 And if this money, um, is there, 607 00:24:47,088 --> 00:24:48,189 uh, I-- I really feel like 608 00:24:48,322 --> 00:24:49,790 we can't let him just walk away. 609 00:24:49,924 --> 00:24:51,525 There's no option there. 610 00:24:51,659 --> 00:24:52,994 I mean, if-- if we don't turn the money in 611 00:24:53,127 --> 00:24:54,628 then we're liaisons... 612 00:24:54,762 --> 00:24:56,097 -We're criminals-- -...to the crime. 613 00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:57,497 He thinks he has this thing lined up. 614 00:24:57,965 --> 00:24:59,266 We're gonna set up camp in Woodland, 615 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,002 that's where the hotels are gonna be 616 00:25:01,135 --> 00:25:02,636 that we're gonna work out of and then the-- 617 00:25:02,770 --> 00:25:04,171 the bar that the money was found 618 00:25:04,305 --> 00:25:06,841 is down southwest of that area. 619 00:25:07,341 --> 00:25:09,810 So, geographically, it's not too far away. 620 00:25:09,944 --> 00:25:11,145 Just outside of town. 621 00:25:11,278 --> 00:25:12,880 We're gonna rally at 5:00 a.m. 622 00:25:13,014 --> 00:25:15,116 and we're gonna drive down the highway 623 00:25:15,249 --> 00:25:18,119 and, um, go after the money. 624 00:25:18,252 --> 00:25:20,755 Just basically-- just go right at it. 625 00:25:20,888 --> 00:25:23,290 Picked the boys up, they're ready to roll. 626 00:25:23,924 --> 00:25:26,060 Let's go down and unbury that money. 627 00:25:26,193 --> 00:25:27,595 All right, let's get her done. 628 00:25:27,728 --> 00:25:28,996 All right, all right. 629 00:25:29,130 --> 00:25:30,831 You can ask me any questions you want. 630 00:25:30,965 --> 00:25:32,199 Did you ever conceive of this plan 631 00:25:32,333 --> 00:25:33,968 beforehand or thought, like,"Oh, 632 00:25:34,101 --> 00:25:35,036 you know, I might be able to hijack a plane, 633 00:25:35,169 --> 00:25:36,303 get some ransom money, 634 00:25:36,437 --> 00:25:37,872 -and jump out of it?" -Never. 635 00:25:38,005 --> 00:25:40,174 I call it skyjacking, but never. 636 00:25:40,307 --> 00:25:41,842 How did you even know 637 00:25:41,976 --> 00:25:43,577 how to jump out of a commercial airplane? 638 00:25:43,711 --> 00:25:44,879 It seems like you would have to 639 00:25:45,012 --> 00:25:47,548 know something about aviation. 640 00:25:47,681 --> 00:25:51,018 A friend of mine, Roger Gackle was a flight-- 641 00:25:51,152 --> 00:25:52,553 he organized the flights 642 00:25:52,686 --> 00:25:53,888 coming in and out of the airport. 643 00:25:54,021 --> 00:25:55,556 He invited me in with Rick Gackle, 644 00:25:55,689 --> 00:25:57,591 so I knew the whole layout before I did it. 645 00:25:57,725 --> 00:25:59,060 Okay, so Roger Gackle 646 00:25:59,193 --> 00:26:00,728 was kind of like this guy that taught you 647 00:26:00,861 --> 00:26:01,962 the inner workings of what aviation is. 648 00:26:02,096 --> 00:26:03,697 He just. 649 00:26:12,139 --> 00:26:13,207 Let's go Rod! 650 00:26:17,878 --> 00:26:19,814 Yeah! 651 00:26:19,947 --> 00:26:21,715 That's how it's done, fellas! 652 00:26:21,849 --> 00:26:23,017 -Hey, where's Gackle? -He went back to the airport. 653 00:26:24,919 --> 00:26:26,555 Gackle gave me a tour of that 727 last week. 654 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,155 -Have you been on that thing? -Nah. 655 00:26:28,289 --> 00:26:29,790 He showed me every switch and lever. 656 00:26:29,924 --> 00:26:31,659 That bird can do some serious action. 657 00:26:31,792 --> 00:26:33,194 This guy's been hot on airplanes ever since 658 00:26:33,327 --> 00:26:34,929 he jumped off the roof when he was seven. 659 00:26:36,897 --> 00:26:39,266 - Hey! What's up, you goons? - Hey, buddy boy. 660 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,901 We goin' to the loop on Friday? 661 00:26:41,035 --> 00:26:43,003 Oh, the loop! 662 00:26:43,137 --> 00:26:45,840 Oh, the loop! Yeah! 663 00:26:47,208 --> 00:26:51,011 South of the Washington-Oregon border. 664 00:26:51,145 --> 00:26:53,180 A little Portland hideout, fun-out. 665 00:26:53,314 --> 00:26:54,381 And when Rodney showed up... 666 00:26:56,450 --> 00:26:58,352 ...that's when the party lifted off. 667 00:27:01,455 --> 00:27:03,257 Hey, how you doin'? 668 00:27:04,258 --> 00:27:05,693 Hey, what's up, Rod? 669 00:27:05,826 --> 00:27:06,961 How you doing, brother? 670 00:27:07,094 --> 00:27:08,929 -Hey, Rod. -Hey, baby. 671 00:27:09,063 --> 00:27:10,397 Oh, the loop is where we used to gang fight, 672 00:27:10,532 --> 00:27:12,066 race cars, and monkey around 673 00:27:12,199 --> 00:27:13,734 with wild women down there, okay? 674 00:27:13,868 --> 00:27:15,970 Here's the loop. Fast cars. 675 00:27:16,103 --> 00:27:17,371 Yeah, dude, it looks like you need 676 00:27:17,506 --> 00:27:19,073 a new radiator hose. 677 00:27:19,206 --> 00:27:21,775 Lotta women. Lotta drugs. 678 00:27:21,909 --> 00:27:23,911 Goddamn this shit is good. 679 00:27:24,044 --> 00:27:25,713 Lotta people 680 00:27:25,846 --> 00:27:27,148 havin' a good time mixing 'em all together. 681 00:27:27,281 --> 00:27:28,883 Gotcha! 682 00:27:29,016 --> 00:27:31,018 Do me next, but I like it a little slower! 683 00:27:31,152 --> 00:27:32,920 Fuck you, Larry. 684 00:27:33,053 --> 00:27:35,689 Well, look who decides to show his cock to the party! 685 00:27:35,823 --> 00:27:37,091 Welcome, baby. 686 00:27:37,224 --> 00:27:39,727 Let's have a good time. 687 00:27:41,829 --> 00:27:43,030 It was everything we were about. 688 00:27:44,732 --> 00:27:47,067 We lived it. 689 00:27:47,201 --> 00:27:49,036 That's one of my favorite memories. 690 00:27:49,170 --> 00:27:50,971 I remember one time Rodney, was waving around a gun. 691 00:27:51,105 --> 00:27:52,773 I think he-- I don't know what drug he was on. 692 00:27:52,907 --> 00:27:53,974 You never really knew. 693 00:27:54,108 --> 00:27:55,442 I probably helped him with it. 694 00:27:55,577 --> 00:27:56,877 He was just waving around a gun, 695 00:27:57,011 --> 00:27:58,245 wanting to fight. 696 00:27:58,846 --> 00:28:00,181 I can't even remember, he was ready 697 00:28:00,314 --> 00:28:01,949 to fight anyone, even me. 698 00:28:02,082 --> 00:28:03,450 - You see Stacy's cousin? - Wayne Shannon, 699 00:28:03,585 --> 00:28:05,319 I fought him twice out in Gutterway. 700 00:28:05,452 --> 00:28:06,787 First time was a draw. Second time I beat him. 701 00:28:06,921 --> 00:28:08,822 Who didn't see Stacy's cousin. 702 00:28:08,956 --> 00:28:11,058 Fuck! Goddamn. 703 00:28:11,192 --> 00:28:13,827 Yeah, I seem to remember Stacy's cousin 704 00:28:13,961 --> 00:28:15,963 because I think it was around her 19th birthday. 705 00:28:16,096 --> 00:28:17,831 We had a pretty good time together. 706 00:28:17,965 --> 00:28:20,434 Yeah, and I bet she enjoyed all three seconds. 707 00:28:25,072 --> 00:28:26,340 Excuse me? 708 00:28:26,473 --> 00:28:28,342 You heard me. I mean, girls talk. 709 00:28:28,943 --> 00:28:31,078 And they need someone to lay the pipe. 710 00:28:31,212 --> 00:28:33,847 And we know that's not you. I mean, let's be honest. 711 00:28:35,883 --> 00:28:37,751 You know what? Forget you. 712 00:28:37,885 --> 00:28:40,221 Bring your skinny dick over here and say that to my face. 713 00:28:40,354 --> 00:28:42,489 Whoa, whoa, whoa! 714 00:28:45,292 --> 00:28:48,829 Come on, Rodney, come on, man. 715 00:28:49,496 --> 00:28:53,500 Now, if anyone else wants to piss me off 716 00:28:53,635 --> 00:28:56,504 and get on my nerves, let's have a discussion 717 00:28:56,638 --> 00:29:00,274 right now, right here, in my office. 718 00:29:01,075 --> 00:29:02,810 Anybody got a problem with that? 719 00:29:02,943 --> 00:29:04,812 No, man. We're cool, we're cool. 720 00:29:04,945 --> 00:29:06,013 I mean, you have to be 721 00:29:06,146 --> 00:29:07,815 a pretty crazed lunatic 722 00:29:07,948 --> 00:29:11,252 in order to hijack a commercial airline flight. 723 00:29:11,385 --> 00:29:14,121 Well, I was-- I was up for four days. 724 00:29:14,255 --> 00:29:16,457 I had a bag of criss-cross speed 725 00:29:17,157 --> 00:29:19,527 - and I'd pop 'em and get up. - So like stuff, 726 00:29:19,661 --> 00:29:21,829 - like, Johnny Cash used to do? - Yeah, same stuff. 727 00:29:21,962 --> 00:29:23,497 Not the black beauties, but the-- the, 728 00:29:23,632 --> 00:29:25,332 you know, the white criss-cross speed. 729 00:29:25,466 --> 00:29:27,334 It was all over the place in the old days. 730 00:29:27,468 --> 00:29:29,436 We'd always take the uppers when we went drinkin' 731 00:29:29,571 --> 00:29:31,805 and-- and carousing and stuff so-- 732 00:29:32,574 --> 00:29:34,008 Rodney always had a plan, 733 00:29:34,576 --> 00:29:36,243 no matter what it was. 734 00:29:40,214 --> 00:29:41,448 Knock-knock, 735 00:29:41,583 --> 00:29:43,183 Christmas came early, my friend. 736 00:29:43,317 --> 00:29:45,419 Ooh, is that the shit Cash is using? 737 00:29:45,553 --> 00:29:48,188 Make no mistake, 738 00:29:48,322 --> 00:29:49,857 these are not black beauties. 739 00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:52,026 No, sir, this is criss-cross. 740 00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:54,028 This stuff, my friend, will sell. 741 00:29:54,529 --> 00:29:57,398 Oh! It's like the first snow in winter. 742 00:29:57,998 --> 00:30:00,401 -What a beaut! -That'll knock the pins down. 743 00:30:01,503 --> 00:30:03,370 Care to ski the slopes, my friend? 744 00:30:03,505 --> 00:30:05,573 I'd been a supplier of drugs for a long time 745 00:30:05,707 --> 00:30:07,174 so I could ignite the fun, 746 00:30:07,308 --> 00:30:09,009 but hi-- hi-- his-- his plans were 747 00:30:09,143 --> 00:30:12,246 how can we make money and have some fun too? 748 00:30:14,315 --> 00:30:16,216 I will criss-cross this 749 00:30:16,350 --> 00:30:17,585 all across the county. 750 00:30:17,719 --> 00:30:19,219 Tic-tac-toe. 751 00:30:19,353 --> 00:30:21,288 Across the states we go, my friend. 752 00:30:22,590 --> 00:30:24,158 But we gotta be quick about this, pal. 753 00:30:24,726 --> 00:30:27,027 Dude, I have never let you down, Rod. 754 00:30:28,095 --> 00:30:29,930 You've never let me down, buddy. 755 00:30:34,268 --> 00:30:35,336 How're you feeling, sir? 756 00:30:35,469 --> 00:30:36,571 I'm feeling great. 757 00:30:36,705 --> 00:30:38,238 Hungry, about to eat. 758 00:30:38,673 --> 00:30:41,975 I'm excited about the fact that he's an old honcho 759 00:30:42,109 --> 00:30:43,911 that just is excited and ready to roll. 760 00:30:44,044 --> 00:30:46,280 Everything he's told us is stuff we haven't heard 761 00:30:46,413 --> 00:30:48,115 in the news, or most of it, 762 00:30:48,248 --> 00:30:51,352 and only one person would know all these details. 763 00:30:51,485 --> 00:30:54,021 So, our optimism is rising. 764 00:30:54,154 --> 00:30:56,423 You gotta mind, uh... 765 00:30:56,558 --> 00:30:57,958 ...when I took the jump, 766 00:30:58,092 --> 00:31:00,027 I had a pair of penny loafers on. 767 00:31:00,729 --> 00:31:03,897 So, uh, I lost one of my penny loafers on the way down. 768 00:31:07,034 --> 00:31:08,435 So I ended up buying 769 00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:10,204 a pair of tennis shoes on the way out. 770 00:31:10,337 --> 00:31:12,607 I had to walk to the road, go to Woodland 771 00:31:12,741 --> 00:31:14,441 to get the tennis shoes. 772 00:31:14,576 --> 00:31:16,076 Piggly Wiggly, just closing up 773 00:31:16,210 --> 00:31:17,579 at ten o'clock at night. 774 00:31:17,712 --> 00:31:19,446 I had to beg and plead with the lady 775 00:31:19,581 --> 00:31:23,183 to get the tennis shoes, but then I had shoes. 776 00:31:23,317 --> 00:31:26,053 And so then I took a-- I went to a payphone to call 777 00:31:26,186 --> 00:31:28,956 a cab and I took the cab back to Portland to get my car. 778 00:31:30,124 --> 00:31:31,526 57 Chevy. 779 00:31:31,659 --> 00:31:34,395 Two door hardtop with that-- 780 00:31:34,529 --> 00:31:37,398 Like, the stuff that he's talking about 781 00:31:37,532 --> 00:31:39,266 is so detailed. 782 00:31:39,967 --> 00:31:44,071 He's like Jesus, he's either a psychopath, 783 00:31:44,204 --> 00:31:48,976 liar, narcissist, or it's true. 784 00:31:49,644 --> 00:31:51,078 - It's crazy. - What is your-- what-- 785 00:31:51,211 --> 00:31:52,614 what are you thinking right now? 786 00:31:52,747 --> 00:31:55,249 -What do you think? -Honestly, after that? 787 00:31:56,417 --> 00:31:59,253 After that I'm kind of convinced-- 788 00:31:59,386 --> 00:32:01,121 It would just-- he would be going 789 00:32:01,255 --> 00:32:03,090 to such great lengths... 790 00:32:05,392 --> 00:32:09,564 all for, like, a lie, which, again, is possible, 791 00:32:09,697 --> 00:32:12,700 but I'm starting to-- 792 00:32:12,834 --> 00:32:14,968 I'm starting to be convinced. 793 00:32:15,102 --> 00:32:16,538 What are your thoughts now that 794 00:32:16,671 --> 00:32:18,205 you've seen the confidence he has? 795 00:32:18,807 --> 00:32:20,274 I mean, I'm pretty, like, 796 00:32:20,407 --> 00:32:21,442 like Will was saying, he's just, like, 797 00:32:21,576 --> 00:32:24,111 he's either a crazed lunatic 798 00:32:24,244 --> 00:32:27,214 or, you know, or he's telling the complete truth 799 00:32:27,347 --> 00:32:29,283 and this is all real, you know? 800 00:32:29,416 --> 00:32:31,118 I mean, there's only two ways to spin it. 801 00:32:31,251 --> 00:32:32,486 What did you compare him to? Jesus? 802 00:32:32,620 --> 00:32:34,221 Right, but-- but don't-- 803 00:32:34,354 --> 00:32:36,323 don't you always come back to the fact 804 00:32:36,457 --> 00:32:40,127 that he actually is going to take us there 805 00:32:40,260 --> 00:32:43,263 and what does he expect to have happened 806 00:32:43,397 --> 00:32:46,166 if we don't find it. 807 00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:48,703 It-- that's what confuses me. What is his end game? 808 00:32:48,837 --> 00:32:50,572 I said I would never go dig it up 809 00:32:50,705 --> 00:32:52,272 until the timing was right. 810 00:32:52,406 --> 00:32:54,676 Well, now the time is right. 811 00:32:54,809 --> 00:32:56,544 I have every FBI agent 812 00:32:56,678 --> 00:32:58,245 in the United States looking for me... 813 00:33:00,347 --> 00:33:02,015 because they gotta prove their point, 814 00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:03,217 they gotta get that man. 815 00:33:06,453 --> 00:33:08,121 They got the rest of 'em. 816 00:33:09,323 --> 00:33:11,291 Killed Pretty Boy Floyd, 817 00:33:11,425 --> 00:33:14,027 Dillinger, and Baby Face Nell. 818 00:33:14,161 --> 00:33:15,429 They got 'em all. 819 00:33:15,563 --> 00:33:17,464 You don't think they won't get me too? 820 00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:19,266 Well, that's the way it looks to me. 821 00:33:19,399 --> 00:33:20,735 - I am not stupid. - But Why did-- 822 00:33:20,869 --> 00:33:23,671 Why did you resort to a life of crime? 823 00:33:23,805 --> 00:33:25,405 I don't know. 824 00:33:25,540 --> 00:33:26,741 I-- I robbed Safeway stores, I used to get 825 00:33:26,875 --> 00:33:28,576 30-40,000 a whack out of them, 826 00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:30,512 but, you know, I was a young-- I was a gangster. 827 00:33:30,645 --> 00:33:32,514 I was running around with a bunch of tough kids. 828 00:33:32,647 --> 00:33:34,549 And these were armed robberies? 829 00:33:34,682 --> 00:33:37,150 Yeah, I committed 20 or 30 armed robberies. 830 00:33:37,284 --> 00:33:39,386 And I was with McDonald on about ten of 'em. 831 00:33:39,521 --> 00:33:41,321 Where are we headed? 832 00:33:42,524 --> 00:33:45,392 As far as we can, Marty. 833 00:33:45,527 --> 00:33:47,361 As far as we can. 834 00:33:49,429 --> 00:33:51,533 Robbery was involved and I can't say 835 00:33:51,666 --> 00:33:53,400 I wanted to do it most of the time, 836 00:33:53,535 --> 00:33:57,505 but he's a seller of fun and a seller of, uh, crazy. 837 00:33:57,639 --> 00:34:00,575 Empty that safe into that bag right now! 838 00:34:00,708 --> 00:34:02,409 - Do it! Every last dime! - That's all of it! 839 00:34:02,544 --> 00:34:04,144 - That's all we got! - Oh, come on, 840 00:34:04,278 --> 00:34:06,046 you stupid ass hippy, fill that thing up! 841 00:34:06,814 --> 00:34:08,248 We happy, buddy? 842 00:34:13,453 --> 00:34:15,289 I want you to remember this face. 843 00:34:16,423 --> 00:34:18,726 You're gonna be reading about it for a long, long time. 844 00:34:19,627 --> 00:34:21,194 Let's move out, sunshine. 845 00:34:21,328 --> 00:34:23,230 ♪ Uh huh ♪ 846 00:34:26,668 --> 00:34:29,269 ♪ We gonna tear this motherfucker up ♪ 847 00:34:29,403 --> 00:34:30,805 ♪ And burn this motherfucker down ♪ 848 00:34:30,939 --> 00:34:32,540 Yes! 849 00:34:32,674 --> 00:34:34,509 Drugs, guns, whatever was involved. 850 00:34:34,642 --> 00:34:36,109 I was ready for the ride. 851 00:34:36,878 --> 00:34:38,713 I hope you like Chinese food, 852 00:34:38,846 --> 00:34:40,615 buddy, 'cause we're gonna get our feast on tonight. 853 00:34:40,748 --> 00:34:42,149 What're you talkin' about? What-- what Chinese food? 854 00:34:42,282 --> 00:34:43,651 ♪ A lot of stories ♪ 855 00:34:43,785 --> 00:34:46,821 ♪ Uh-huh, yeah, uh-huh ♪ 856 00:34:46,955 --> 00:34:49,657 Not The Dragon, man, I eat here twice a week! 857 00:34:51,224 --> 00:34:52,660 Marty... 858 00:34:52,794 --> 00:34:54,596 I thought you wanted to be a gangster! 859 00:34:55,429 --> 00:34:58,298 Rod, have you had the kung pao here? 860 00:34:59,166 --> 00:35:00,367 Best in town. 861 00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:02,202 And if we do this, 862 00:35:02,336 --> 00:35:03,738 -I can't eat here anymore! -No, 863 00:35:03,871 --> 00:35:05,272 I haven't had the kung pao here, Marty. 864 00:35:05,405 --> 00:35:06,774 And who the fuck cares? 865 00:35:06,908 --> 00:35:10,778 Ah, Rod, seriously, I eat here all the time! 866 00:35:10,912 --> 00:35:13,648 It's sweet, Yuki will probably recognize me! 867 00:35:15,215 --> 00:35:16,450 Man, I've been trying to ask her out 868 00:35:16,584 --> 00:35:18,452 the last couple weeks, man. 869 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,856 Marty, put the mask on, disguise your voice, 870 00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:23,591 and then next week you can take out 871 00:35:23,725 --> 00:35:25,560 sweet Yuki on a wonderful date 872 00:35:25,693 --> 00:35:28,328 with all the money that you rob from her tonight. 873 00:35:28,462 --> 00:35:31,365 If you had had the kung pao, 874 00:35:31,498 --> 00:35:33,200 we wouldn't be doin' this right now, man. 875 00:35:33,333 --> 00:35:34,401 Shut the fuck up, Marty. 876 00:35:41,743 --> 00:35:43,477 All right, hands in the air, sweetheart! 877 00:35:44,378 --> 00:35:46,413 Now, I want you to go back to that register, 878 00:35:46,547 --> 00:35:49,550 and take every last dollar, and put it inside this bag. 879 00:35:49,684 --> 00:35:52,787 If you try any funny stuff, things are gonna get 880 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,288 un-fucking-funny, 881 00:35:55,422 --> 00:35:56,490 real fuckin' quick! 882 00:35:59,861 --> 00:36:01,729 And don't skimp on those fortune cookies either. 883 00:36:09,269 --> 00:36:10,738 Come on, Yuki. 884 00:36:10,872 --> 00:36:12,540 We're not gonna hurt you, we just need the money. 885 00:36:13,340 --> 00:36:14,474 Marty? 886 00:36:18,646 --> 00:36:20,180 Marty! 887 00:36:27,387 --> 00:36:29,189 I saved the best for last. 888 00:36:29,322 --> 00:36:31,324 No clerks, no bullshit. 889 00:36:32,225 --> 00:36:34,562 Just good old-fashioned American takin' stuff. 890 00:36:35,328 --> 00:36:38,331 And you know how much I love takin' stuff! 891 00:36:44,772 --> 00:36:46,874 What if someone comes in there while we're there? 892 00:36:47,008 --> 00:36:48,776 Oh, fuck, Marty! 893 00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:50,978 These rich fucks only come here in the summertime! 894 00:36:51,112 --> 00:36:52,613 The rest of the year, this house is barren, 895 00:36:52,747 --> 00:36:53,915 it's just ready to get picked off! 896 00:36:54,448 --> 00:36:55,683 Don't you think we should just quit 897 00:36:55,817 --> 00:36:56,884 while we're ahead? 898 00:36:59,887 --> 00:37:01,388 I will tell you 899 00:37:01,522 --> 00:37:03,558 when we are ahead, you stupid bitch! 900 00:37:03,691 --> 00:37:05,927 These fucks are ahead. 901 00:37:07,427 --> 00:37:08,796 Now... 902 00:37:11,032 --> 00:37:13,935 picking off two places in one night is child's play! 903 00:37:15,703 --> 00:37:17,004 But you pick off three places... 904 00:37:18,506 --> 00:37:19,907 That's a spree, buddy. 905 00:37:20,708 --> 00:37:22,409 That's a spree. 906 00:37:23,343 --> 00:37:24,746 Four-- three places? 907 00:37:25,245 --> 00:37:27,682 Here's a-- here's thing on me, right here. 908 00:37:27,815 --> 00:37:31,418 November 24, 1971, a man called himself 909 00:37:31,552 --> 00:37:33,020 Dan Cooper. Yeah, I did. 910 00:37:33,554 --> 00:37:35,523 The name came from Jackie Cooper, 911 00:37:35,656 --> 00:37:36,991 the first-- last name. 912 00:37:37,125 --> 00:37:38,993 And the front name was my cousin, Dan. 913 00:37:39,127 --> 00:37:40,762 Who's Jackie Cooper? 914 00:37:40,895 --> 00:37:42,395 Movie star. 915 00:37:42,530 --> 00:37:44,565 Played in, uh, Frank James in, 916 00:37:44,699 --> 00:37:48,603 uh, one of the Ford brothers in a-- in a movie. 917 00:37:48,736 --> 00:37:50,470 Every single question we asked Rodney 918 00:37:50,605 --> 00:37:52,640 about the crime, he had an answer for. 919 00:37:52,774 --> 00:37:55,576 And he didn't have to stutter or stammer or think about it. 920 00:37:55,710 --> 00:37:58,445 It came out very naturally, like it was the truth. 921 00:37:58,579 --> 00:38:00,581 We just elevated up. 922 00:38:00,715 --> 00:38:03,885 I handed her the note and then she says, 923 00:38:04,018 --> 00:38:05,653 "I can't go out with you." 924 00:38:06,020 --> 00:38:07,822 I says, "You better read the note." 925 00:38:07,955 --> 00:38:09,422 She-- she thought you were asking her for a date? 926 00:38:09,557 --> 00:38:10,758 Asking her for a date, yeah. 927 00:38:11,859 --> 00:38:13,761 Not very picky, are you? 928 00:38:13,895 --> 00:38:16,329 I'm flattered, but married. 929 00:38:16,463 --> 00:38:17,532 What did the note say? 930 00:38:17,665 --> 00:38:18,866 Uh, it says I have, 931 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,935 uh, a briefcase full of dynamite, 932 00:38:21,068 --> 00:38:23,805 explosives, and if I don't get 933 00:38:23,938 --> 00:38:25,606 what I want, I'll blow the plane up. 934 00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:27,708 And how did she react? 935 00:38:27,842 --> 00:38:29,577 She says, "Oh, my God." 936 00:38:29,710 --> 00:38:31,444 She just ran right up there as fast as she could. 937 00:38:31,579 --> 00:38:33,614 Not run, but briskly went up there. 938 00:38:33,748 --> 00:38:34,749 Up to the cockpit? 939 00:38:34,882 --> 00:38:36,017 - Yeah. - Yeah. 940 00:38:36,551 --> 00:38:38,986 And then, uh, that's when I had trouble. 941 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,421 Lawrence Finegold. 942 00:38:41,556 --> 00:38:42,790 One of the things 943 00:38:42,924 --> 00:38:44,759 that-- that I found interesting, 944 00:38:44,892 --> 00:38:46,493 uh, as Rodney was filling in the details of the incident 945 00:38:46,627 --> 00:38:48,996 was an interaction with a young attorney 946 00:38:49,130 --> 00:38:50,865 out of Seattle named Finegold. 947 00:38:50,998 --> 00:38:52,733 He started coming back at me and I came right up to 948 00:38:52,867 --> 00:38:54,702 him and said, "You better sit down and shut up. 949 00:38:54,836 --> 00:38:56,771 No funny stuff. He goes, "What is this?" 950 00:38:56,904 --> 00:38:58,873 I says, "Your toupee's not-- not straight on your head. 951 00:38:59,006 --> 00:39:00,708 I acted, like, a little bit crazy but-- 952 00:39:00,842 --> 00:39:02,677 I would sit down and I would straighten out 953 00:39:02,810 --> 00:39:04,612 that fuckin' toupee if I were you. 954 00:39:04,745 --> 00:39:06,379 No funny stuff. 955 00:39:06,514 --> 00:39:07,882 Rodney told him to, you know, sit down 956 00:39:08,015 --> 00:39:09,984 and that his hairpiece was slightly ajar, 957 00:39:10,117 --> 00:39:11,953 which it-- it appears 958 00:39:12,086 --> 00:39:13,888 that maybe he was wearing a hairpiece. 959 00:39:14,021 --> 00:39:15,523 So, to me, I thought that was a very, 960 00:39:15,656 --> 00:39:18,025 very specific detail, and later, 961 00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:20,628 it turns out that Finegold acknowledged 962 00:39:20,761 --> 00:39:23,064 his interaction with Rodney. 963 00:39:23,197 --> 00:39:25,633 My 25th anniversary I called him on the phone 964 00:39:25,766 --> 00:39:28,368 from Seattle and said I'm DB Cooper and he goes, 965 00:39:28,501 --> 00:39:29,770 "Okay, if you're DB Cooper, tell me what-- 966 00:39:29,904 --> 00:39:31,606 what I wanna hear." 967 00:39:31,739 --> 00:39:32,907 and I said, "What do you wanna hear and he goes, 968 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,474 "You know what you told me." 969 00:39:34,609 --> 00:39:36,077 and so I told him the same thing 970 00:39:36,210 --> 00:39:37,578 and he says, "Oh, my God, you're still alive." 971 00:39:38,045 --> 00:39:39,981 - And they're all 20's! - I got 972 00:39:40,114 --> 00:39:42,049 193,000 something dollars buried on the beach. 973 00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:44,384 And we're about to go find it. 974 00:39:44,518 --> 00:39:46,821 By a big, black onyx rock. 975 00:39:46,954 --> 00:39:49,891 So the beauty is gonna be us going from this point 976 00:39:50,024 --> 00:39:51,559 right now, from these interviews, 977 00:39:51,692 --> 00:39:54,729 to the site where he was at that time and, 978 00:39:54,862 --> 00:39:58,099 um, hopefully putting a bow on his story. 979 00:39:58,232 --> 00:39:59,967 Right now we need to button up 980 00:40:00,101 --> 00:40:03,137 and get it together and go out and-- and track it down. 981 00:40:03,271 --> 00:40:05,640 All right, let's go dig it up! 982 00:40:05,773 --> 00:40:06,774 Are you feeling confident? 983 00:40:06,908 --> 00:40:08,542 I'm confident. Yeah. 984 00:40:10,745 --> 00:40:13,446 Well, the old Chinamen say, "Can you dig it?" 985 00:40:13,581 --> 00:40:15,182 And then you're digging it! 986 00:40:15,316 --> 00:40:18,085 So we're going treasure hunting and just dig it up! 987 00:40:18,219 --> 00:40:19,987 How 'bout you? Stressed? 988 00:40:20,121 --> 00:40:22,924 This shit is super crazy. 989 00:40:23,057 --> 00:40:26,661 I'm excited and he's got some details that are just-- 990 00:40:26,794 --> 00:40:29,864 I mean, he told-- he told the lawyer 991 00:40:30,298 --> 00:40:32,133 your toupee is crooked. 992 00:40:32,266 --> 00:40:34,802 Like, that's a detail and a half if it's real. 993 00:40:34,936 --> 00:40:37,605 No, you don't wanna marry an outlaw, 994 00:40:37,738 --> 00:40:39,006 we have trouble, we have to hide 995 00:40:39,140 --> 00:40:40,808 and everything, you don't need that. 996 00:40:42,610 --> 00:40:44,145 Well, now I'm gonna have to really hide 997 00:40:44,278 --> 00:40:45,680 when I find the money. 998 00:40:47,281 --> 00:40:49,050 So if we do find it, do you think 999 00:40:49,183 --> 00:40:51,218 your son would be excited to hear that you found it? 1000 00:40:51,852 --> 00:40:53,988 Well, he's my flesh and blood. 1001 00:40:54,889 --> 00:40:58,993 Anybody that's related to me wants some of the money. 1002 00:41:02,863 --> 00:41:04,632 That's the way it works, I guess. 1003 00:41:07,068 --> 00:41:09,737 It's too bad that the mother did that to me and-- 1004 00:41:09,870 --> 00:41:11,138 Were there any particular women 1005 00:41:11,272 --> 00:41:12,840 in your life at this time? 1006 00:41:12,974 --> 00:41:14,909 Romana Lisa Capps. 1007 00:41:15,042 --> 00:41:16,811 I met her through, uh, high school. 1008 00:41:16,944 --> 00:41:18,679 I think there was just something in me that was scared 1009 00:41:18,813 --> 00:41:21,182 of how lawless he was, but that loved it too. 1010 00:41:21,682 --> 00:41:24,552 Goddamn it, I love pancakes! 1011 00:41:25,219 --> 00:41:26,620 If you love 'em so much, 1012 00:41:26,754 --> 00:41:27,955 why'd you give me the last piece? 1013 00:41:28,089 --> 00:41:29,924 Because I might kind of like you. 1014 00:41:30,057 --> 00:41:31,726 Wow! Everybody hear that? 1015 00:41:32,093 --> 00:41:33,194 Romana Lisa Capps likes me. 1016 00:41:33,327 --> 00:41:34,695 -She loves me! -Oh my-- 1017 00:41:35,463 --> 00:41:37,031 Are you surprised that someone 1018 00:41:37,164 --> 00:41:38,866 in the Capps family actually likes you? 1019 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,135 Yeah, I am. It's a huge accomplishment. 1020 00:41:41,268 --> 00:41:43,704 Maybe. No, I definitely am. 1021 00:41:46,674 --> 00:41:48,209 But, um, I gotta ask you something. 1022 00:41:48,342 --> 00:41:49,844 I heard a rumor, um-- 1023 00:41:51,245 --> 00:41:53,147 I heard your dad wrapped the family car around a tree 1024 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,182 last week on 21st street, is that true? 1025 00:41:55,616 --> 00:41:57,985 Yeah. I mean, I guess everybody knows 1026 00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:00,054 he's the town drunk now. 1027 00:42:00,187 --> 00:42:01,956 No one thinks your dad's the town drunk. 1028 00:42:03,090 --> 00:42:04,525 He made a mistake, 1029 00:42:04,658 --> 00:42:06,093 we all make mistakes, you know? 1030 00:42:06,894 --> 00:42:09,196 Life goes on. Who cares? 1031 00:42:11,699 --> 00:42:13,868 Plus, think of the upside. 1032 00:42:14,668 --> 00:42:16,637 At least now, the whole town knows 1033 00:42:16,771 --> 00:42:17,972 that at the Capps house, 1034 00:42:18,105 --> 00:42:20,107 the liquor cabinet is well-stocked. 1035 00:42:20,241 --> 00:42:22,176 Huh? 1036 00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:24,178 Hmm. 1037 00:42:24,311 --> 00:42:26,814 Well maybe his liquor cabinet should be our next destination. 1038 00:42:27,248 --> 00:42:30,117 Uh-oh. You getting a bad idea? 1039 00:42:30,251 --> 00:42:32,820 Well, this one hearkens back to the greats 1040 00:42:32,953 --> 00:42:36,557 and it's called the ol' dine and dash. 1041 00:42:38,993 --> 00:42:40,628 Oh, you're gonna pull this one off? 1042 00:42:40,761 --> 00:42:42,096 - Mm-hmm. - The big heist? 1043 00:42:51,806 --> 00:42:53,941 Ooh! What the hell was that? 1044 00:42:54,075 --> 00:42:55,843 I just treated you to the best pancakes 1045 00:42:55,976 --> 00:42:57,578 of your goddamn life. 1046 00:42:57,711 --> 00:42:59,580 That may be so, but if you keep this shit up, 1047 00:42:59,713 --> 00:43:01,682 you're going to end up a criminal, missy. 1048 00:43:01,816 --> 00:43:03,250 Oh, has this little escapade 1049 00:43:03,384 --> 00:43:05,886 -reminded you of someone? -Yeah, it did-- 1050 00:43:06,020 --> 00:43:07,888 ♪ You got my attention, baby ♪ 1051 00:43:08,022 --> 00:43:09,757 Come on, we have a liquor cabinet to raid. 1052 00:43:09,890 --> 00:43:11,692 She didn't like who I am or what I am, 1053 00:43:11,826 --> 00:43:13,160 but she just pushed it aside 1054 00:43:13,294 --> 00:43:15,329 that I'm a little wilder than most people. 1055 00:43:15,463 --> 00:43:16,931 Always been wild. 1056 00:43:17,064 --> 00:43:18,299 Have some of this. 1057 00:43:20,401 --> 00:43:21,969 Hair of the dog, what've we got? 1058 00:43:22,103 --> 00:43:23,337 Ooh! Number seven, now we're talkin'. 1059 00:43:23,471 --> 00:43:25,206 Hmm. 1060 00:43:26,173 --> 00:43:27,308 Ah! 1061 00:43:28,342 --> 00:43:30,845 Thank you, Mr. Capps. 1062 00:43:33,013 --> 00:43:34,315 You got shit on your mind, don't you? 1063 00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:37,852 Yeah. 1064 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,754 Your pops? 1065 00:43:42,323 --> 00:43:44,391 Yeah. It's just-- 1066 00:43:47,695 --> 00:43:50,064 It's just hard to talk about my father or my family. 1067 00:43:51,699 --> 00:43:52,833 I understand. 1068 00:43:53,568 --> 00:43:57,338 But I feel really free with you. 1069 00:43:59,406 --> 00:44:00,808 That's good. 1070 00:44:00,941 --> 00:44:02,276 That's real good. 1071 00:44:03,444 --> 00:44:05,246 I'm a free guy. 1072 00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:08,782 Look, forget about your dad. 1073 00:44:08,916 --> 00:44:10,885 Forget about what the town is sayin'. 1074 00:44:11,018 --> 00:44:12,853 They're not sayin' shit. They don't know anything. 1075 00:44:12,987 --> 00:44:14,755 No one knows the ins and outs of a person's home 1076 00:44:14,889 --> 00:44:16,657 or how they run it. 1077 00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:18,125 No one knows your family, I don't know your family. 1078 00:44:18,759 --> 00:44:20,761 All right, think about it like this. 1079 00:44:20,895 --> 00:44:22,129 This is gonna sound real corny. 1080 00:44:22,696 --> 00:44:25,065 -In the car of life-- okay? -Okay. 1081 00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:27,935 Every past version of us is in the car, 1082 00:44:28,068 --> 00:44:30,771 and what I mean by that is people screw up, 1083 00:44:30,905 --> 00:44:32,306 and hopefully they learn from that shit. 1084 00:44:33,941 --> 00:44:35,910 The key that no one tells you... 1085 00:44:36,043 --> 00:44:37,878 is that when you're driving in this car of life 1086 00:44:38,012 --> 00:44:39,413 down the highway of life... 1087 00:44:40,247 --> 00:44:42,816 all those past versions of yourself... 1088 00:44:44,218 --> 00:44:45,419 they're in the car with you. 1089 00:44:46,387 --> 00:44:48,956 And the key, the secret... 1090 00:44:49,089 --> 00:44:50,424 is to not let any of 'em drive. 1091 00:44:53,861 --> 00:44:55,829 Does that mean I'm with a safe driver? 1092 00:44:58,933 --> 00:45:01,735 You're with a safe driver, I can assure you that. 1093 00:45:01,869 --> 00:45:04,071 And we were goin' out and we loved each other. 1094 00:45:04,205 --> 00:45:05,739 Her dad told me to marry her, 1095 00:45:05,873 --> 00:45:07,174 or I'd get shotgunned to death 1096 00:45:07,308 --> 00:45:08,876 and we had a baby on the way 1097 00:45:09,009 --> 00:45:09,977 so I took his advice and married her. 1098 00:45:10,110 --> 00:45:11,378 Anyway, I loved her. 1099 00:45:12,947 --> 00:45:17,851 ♪ You were made for love 1100 00:45:21,155 --> 00:45:27,228 ♪ And we fell into 1101 00:45:30,464 --> 00:45:35,903 ♪ Back when the stars began to shine ♪ 1102 00:45:36,036 --> 00:45:37,371 You have any idea where we are? 1103 00:45:37,505 --> 00:45:40,207 No. Rod, you know I don't like surprises! 1104 00:45:40,341 --> 00:45:41,408 It's a good surprise, 1105 00:45:41,543 --> 00:45:43,143 no bad surprise, okay? 1106 00:45:43,277 --> 00:45:44,411 - You ready? - Okay, yes, I'm ready. 1107 00:45:44,546 --> 00:45:47,047 -Are you ready? -Yes, yes, yes. 1108 00:45:47,181 --> 00:45:49,917 Okay. Three, two, One. 1109 00:45:50,484 --> 00:45:53,087 Oh, my God, Rod! 1110 00:45:53,220 --> 00:45:54,822 I know, it's a gourmet meal! 1111 00:45:54,955 --> 00:45:58,225 This is beautiful! 1112 00:46:00,961 --> 00:46:02,463 Well, the old man did have one thing right. 1113 00:46:06,467 --> 00:46:08,035 Will you marry me? 1114 00:46:08,737 --> 00:46:10,938 Oh, my God, I can't wait to be 1115 00:46:11,071 --> 00:46:13,040 -Mrs. Rodney Bonnifield! -Yes? 1116 00:46:13,173 --> 00:46:14,241 - Yes! - Yes? 1117 00:46:14,375 --> 00:46:15,442 Yes! 1118 00:46:20,682 --> 00:46:22,416 Oh, man, when Rodney and Romana got together, 1119 00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:23,984 it was a great thing. 1120 00:46:24,118 --> 00:46:25,386 It was a great thing for Rodney. 1121 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,322 I never seen him that happy. 1122 00:46:28,455 --> 00:46:30,391 Marty McFerguson up to the t-box. 1123 00:46:30,525 --> 00:46:33,494 Averaging 350 yards per drive. 1124 00:46:33,628 --> 00:46:35,129 You're a little pink 1125 00:46:35,262 --> 00:46:36,163 around the edges, aren't you, Marty? 1126 00:46:36,297 --> 00:46:37,331 Keeps me goin'. 1127 00:46:39,567 --> 00:46:41,402 You take your vitamins today, Marty? 1128 00:46:41,536 --> 00:46:44,371 - Everyday. - Good. 1129 00:46:44,506 --> 00:46:46,006 Doesn't get much better than this, buddy. 1130 00:46:46,140 --> 00:46:48,075 Look at this! 1131 00:46:48,208 --> 00:46:49,843 Normally, on any given day, 1132 00:46:49,977 --> 00:46:51,579 Marty, I'd agree with you. 1133 00:46:51,713 --> 00:46:53,347 But today is not a normal day, my friend. 1134 00:46:53,782 --> 00:46:55,282 I got some good news. 1135 00:46:55,717 --> 00:46:58,419 - What? - You're gonna be an uncle. 1136 00:47:00,154 --> 00:47:02,323 I-- I'm gonna get adopted? 1137 00:47:02,456 --> 00:47:03,857 No, Marty. 1138 00:47:03,991 --> 00:47:05,359 I'm gonna be a father! 1139 00:47:06,393 --> 00:47:07,461 With Romana? 1140 00:47:08,395 --> 00:47:10,464 No, with your mother-- yes, with Romana! 1141 00:47:10,598 --> 00:47:14,501 -Romana Lisa Capps! -Rod, man! Look at you! 1142 00:47:14,636 --> 00:47:16,136 - We're having a family! - Oh! 1143 00:47:16,270 --> 00:47:17,905 Man! 1144 00:47:18,439 --> 00:47:22,943 The new man Rodney Bonnifield family man. 1145 00:47:26,113 --> 00:47:29,016 - Yes! - I'll take that. 1146 00:47:29,149 --> 00:47:31,852 A new man. 1147 00:47:31,985 --> 00:47:33,387 So what's next for the family man? 1148 00:47:33,921 --> 00:47:35,489 Well, I gotta clean up my act. 1149 00:47:35,623 --> 00:47:37,257 I can't be doin' what I've been doing up here 1150 00:47:37,391 --> 00:47:38,425 and Washington's pretty much tapped out. 1151 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,060 So, I'm gonna be working 1152 00:47:40,194 --> 00:47:41,095 down in California for a little bit. 1153 00:47:43,732 --> 00:47:45,899 The Boins was lettin' everybody go. 1154 00:47:46,033 --> 00:47:47,535 No jobs here, so we went down there, 1155 00:47:47,669 --> 00:47:49,269 worked at Carol's Cabinets. 1156 00:47:49,403 --> 00:47:51,138 ♪ And it's hard to call it home ♪ 1157 00:47:51,271 --> 00:47:53,575 ♪ When it's raining all day long ♪ 1158 00:47:53,708 --> 00:47:56,377 ♪ And you know it's all been done ♪ 1159 00:47:56,511 --> 00:47:58,613 ♪ And you can't get you no sun ♪ 1160 00:47:58,747 --> 00:48:01,549 ♪ No, no, see, I got bigger plans ♪ 1161 00:48:01,683 --> 00:48:03,951 ♪ Something to hold in my hands... ♪ 1162 00:48:04,084 --> 00:48:05,419 You here for castle tickets? 1163 00:48:06,487 --> 00:48:08,656 If you're selling magic I'm buying. 1164 00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:11,593 ♪ Going where the sun shines ♪ 1165 00:48:11,726 --> 00:48:13,293 What is this? 1166 00:48:13,427 --> 00:48:15,295 This is magic that's gonna send your ass 1167 00:48:15,429 --> 00:48:17,331 over the fuckin' moon. 1168 00:48:18,566 --> 00:48:20,100 -How much? -For you? 1169 00:48:20,234 --> 00:48:22,537 -$100. -100 bucks? 1170 00:48:22,670 --> 00:48:25,205 I can get this much back up in Seattle for $40! 1171 00:48:25,339 --> 00:48:27,609 Look around, does it look like we're in Seattle? 1172 00:48:27,742 --> 00:48:30,244 You got palm trees in fuckin' Seattle? 1173 00:48:30,377 --> 00:48:32,547 Does Marlon Brando live in Seattle? 1174 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,914 100 bucks. 1175 00:48:34,047 --> 00:48:35,182 Take it or beat it. 1176 00:48:36,984 --> 00:48:39,052 That's all I got- 1177 00:48:40,020 --> 00:48:42,657 Hey! Where's a guy go to have a good time around here? 1178 00:48:42,791 --> 00:48:44,592 Excuse me, do I know you? 1179 00:48:44,726 --> 00:48:48,530 ♪ Where the sunshine gon' get me high ♪ 1180 00:48:50,765 --> 00:48:54,034 ♪ I'm goin' where the sunshine gon' get me high ♪ 1181 00:48:56,638 --> 00:48:58,105 He started just doin' 1182 00:48:58,238 --> 00:49:00,207 a lot of drugs and-- and drinking a lot 1183 00:49:00,340 --> 00:49:03,076 and, uh, would disappear for days on end and-- 1184 00:49:03,711 --> 00:49:05,179 I'm-- I'm not gonna raise 1185 00:49:05,312 --> 00:49:07,247 my kid how my parents raised me. 1186 00:49:09,818 --> 00:49:11,118 Ooh. 1187 00:49:15,557 --> 00:49:17,592 - Hello? - Hi! 1188 00:49:17,725 --> 00:49:19,026 I'm calling for the most gorgeous woman 1189 00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:20,562 in the entire world. 1190 00:49:20,695 --> 00:49:24,031 Is that one of your brother's pick up lines? 1191 00:49:24,164 --> 00:49:26,668 Ouch, Romana. 1192 00:49:26,801 --> 00:49:28,469 I'd say we're well beyond that. 1193 00:49:28,603 --> 00:49:30,270 I mean, I thought we were, 1194 00:49:30,404 --> 00:49:33,207 but someone doesn't know how to pick up the phone. 1195 00:49:33,340 --> 00:49:35,209 I'm here working for you, babe. 1196 00:49:35,342 --> 00:49:36,711 For the both of you. 1197 00:49:36,845 --> 00:49:39,379 - How's little Rod? - He's kicking. 1198 00:49:40,548 --> 00:49:42,182 I cannot wait to feel that. 1199 00:49:42,316 --> 00:49:44,051 I'm so excited for you to get here. 1200 00:49:44,184 --> 00:49:46,153 I just know that this kid is gonna have 1201 00:49:46,286 --> 00:49:48,188 your eyes and, Lord willing, 1202 00:49:48,322 --> 00:49:51,024 he doesn't have my ears, and I think he'll be okay. 1203 00:49:51,158 --> 00:49:53,126 - Hm. - But seriously. 1204 00:49:53,260 --> 00:49:55,162 Being in your arms again will be absolute Heaven 1205 00:49:55,295 --> 00:49:56,698 and I sure cannot wait. 1206 00:49:56,831 --> 00:49:58,766 Oh. Now? 1207 00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:00,702 Now you miss me? 1208 00:50:00,835 --> 00:50:04,071 Come on, babe. What do you want from me? 1209 00:50:04,204 --> 00:50:05,573 I'm just trying to do right by ya. 1210 00:50:06,641 --> 00:50:08,041 It's late, Rod. 1211 00:50:08,175 --> 00:50:09,544 I need to go. 1212 00:50:09,677 --> 00:50:10,512 I have an early flight tomorrow. 1213 00:50:10,645 --> 00:50:11,713 Love you. 1214 00:50:17,552 --> 00:50:19,019 You all right? 1215 00:50:19,654 --> 00:50:21,054 Yeah. 1216 00:50:21,188 --> 00:50:22,289 It's about time you let him know. 1217 00:50:23,658 --> 00:50:25,459 -I know. -He needs to know. 1218 00:50:26,694 --> 00:50:28,295 When things started getting fucked up 1219 00:50:28,428 --> 00:50:31,098 with Rodney and I, uh, he heard from my brother 1220 00:50:31,231 --> 00:50:33,801 at the mechanic shop and started coming around more 1221 00:50:33,935 --> 00:50:37,237 and maybe the truth is that-- 1222 00:50:37,805 --> 00:50:41,208 I didn't know for a while, but I had a suspicion 1223 00:50:41,341 --> 00:50:43,645 that it was actually Wayne Shannon's. 1224 00:50:49,751 --> 00:50:50,785 Hey! 1225 00:50:51,786 --> 00:50:54,154 -You're here! -Hi, Rod. 1226 00:50:54,722 --> 00:50:55,790 I can't stay long. 1227 00:50:57,357 --> 00:50:58,726 What're you talking about, you just got into town. 1228 00:50:58,860 --> 00:51:00,294 Yeah, I wanted to talk to you in person. 1229 00:51:00,427 --> 00:51:02,129 Do you wanna have a seat? 1230 00:51:02,830 --> 00:51:04,264 -Yeah-- -Okay. 1231 00:51:04,398 --> 00:51:06,133 - Chat? - Yeah. Sure, what-- 1232 00:51:06,266 --> 00:51:07,669 What's up, babe? 1233 00:51:07,802 --> 00:51:09,704 You're always drinking God knows how much, 1234 00:51:09,837 --> 00:51:11,706 staying out 'til the wee hours of the morning, 1235 00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:13,708 barely remembering to call me. 1236 00:51:13,841 --> 00:51:15,543 I am pregnant, Rod. 1237 00:51:16,544 --> 00:51:18,178 I know you're pregnant. 1238 00:51:18,646 --> 00:51:20,782 And that's why I'm down here trying to earn a living for us. 1239 00:51:20,915 --> 00:51:23,350 Yeah, and drink half of it away while you're at it? 1240 00:51:23,483 --> 00:51:26,821 We are not in love, Rod. We got married for the baby. 1241 00:51:26,955 --> 00:51:28,488 - Romana-- - And I'll be damned 1242 00:51:28,623 --> 00:51:30,123 if I spend the rest of my life unhappy 1243 00:51:30,257 --> 00:51:31,391 just because I got pregnant. 1244 00:51:31,893 --> 00:51:34,529 Oh, hon, I'm trying to do the right thing here. 1245 00:51:35,063 --> 00:51:36,631 I made an honest woman out of you. 1246 00:51:36,764 --> 00:51:38,498 Yes, I got you pregnant, but you're down here 1247 00:51:38,633 --> 00:51:40,200 and we're gonna be a family together. 1248 00:51:41,035 --> 00:51:43,571 I don't even know if it's yours, Rod. 1249 00:51:45,773 --> 00:51:46,874 Oh. 1250 00:51:48,576 --> 00:51:50,110 Okay. 1251 00:51:51,012 --> 00:51:53,480 I know what this is about. This is about Wayne Shannon. 1252 00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:55,883 You're fucking Wayne Shannon. 1253 00:51:56,017 --> 00:51:57,284 It's none of your business. 1254 00:51:57,417 --> 00:51:58,786 I think it is my business! 1255 00:51:59,252 --> 00:52:01,689 -It's about us! -There is no us! 1256 00:52:01,823 --> 00:52:03,825 I am done, Rod. I am done. 1257 00:52:03,958 --> 00:52:07,361 -Do you hear that? -Romana, 1258 00:52:07,494 --> 00:52:11,198 I moved my ass all the way to LA for this. 1259 00:52:12,533 --> 00:52:13,668 For you. 1260 00:52:15,235 --> 00:52:16,303 For the goddamn baby. 1261 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,240 And this is what you do? 1262 00:52:21,876 --> 00:52:23,410 She thought she could talk to me about 1263 00:52:23,544 --> 00:52:24,612 having sex with a guy. 1264 00:52:24,746 --> 00:52:26,413 Well, you don't talk to me 1265 00:52:26,547 --> 00:52:27,414 when you have sex with somebody else. 1266 00:52:27,548 --> 00:52:29,249 I flipped out. 1267 00:52:29,383 --> 00:52:30,752 I took a chair and threw it right through 1268 00:52:30,885 --> 00:52:31,886 the-- right through the side window. 1269 00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:33,521 I was, uh, very upset. 1270 00:52:33,655 --> 00:52:35,389 I thought that she loved me, 1271 00:52:35,523 --> 00:52:37,257 but then she left me because of my temper. 1272 00:52:38,291 --> 00:52:39,827 What the fuck, Rodney? 1273 00:52:39,961 --> 00:52:41,763 I told you no more bullshit! 1274 00:52:41,896 --> 00:52:44,799 -You're gone! -Fuck you, Kevin! 1275 00:52:44,932 --> 00:52:46,701 That's the worst pain I've ever felt 1276 00:52:46,834 --> 00:52:48,368 in my life, is losing her. 1277 00:52:48,502 --> 00:52:50,538 Absolutely pain that you wouldn't believe. 1278 00:52:50,672 --> 00:52:52,339 'Cause I loved her. 1279 00:52:52,472 --> 00:52:57,712 ♪ I been walking, oh, oh ♪ 1280 00:52:57,845 --> 00:53:02,282 ♪ Down this lonely road ♪ 1281 00:53:04,418 --> 00:53:10,591 ♪ Trying to find my way, mmm 1282 00:53:10,725 --> 00:53:14,261 ♪ Find my way back home ♪ 1283 00:53:17,865 --> 00:53:21,936 ♪ Sleepless nights, yeah 1284 00:53:23,538 --> 00:53:27,742 ♪ Cryin' 'bout my bare side 1285 00:53:29,911 --> 00:53:34,515 ♪ Oh, trying to get my mind 1286 00:53:36,316 --> 00:53:40,722 ♪ Off of your love, mmm 1287 00:53:40,855 --> 00:53:45,860 ♪ Sweet baby, take me back ♪ 1288 00:53:45,993 --> 00:53:50,297 ♪ Oh, take me back ♪ 1289 00:53:50,430 --> 00:53:54,736 ♪ To the good times ♪ 1290 00:53:54,869 --> 00:53:59,707 ♪ Where my heart belongs ♪ 1291 00:54:01,743 --> 00:54:04,812 ♪ Oh, on the open road 1292 00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:14,354 ♪ Night can be so cold on this journey ♪ 1293 00:54:14,488 --> 00:54:18,893 ♪ Going up this open road ♪ 1294 00:54:24,966 --> 00:54:26,834 So I got back to Federal Way in Washington. 1295 00:54:26,968 --> 00:54:29,469 I was not very right in the mind at the time. 1296 00:54:29,604 --> 00:54:31,304 She knew I was looking for her. 1297 00:54:31,438 --> 00:54:32,807 They didn't do a damn thing in those days 1298 00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:34,441 with somebody stealin' your kid. 1299 00:54:34,575 --> 00:54:36,778 So, be honest. 1300 00:54:37,612 --> 00:54:39,046 How'd you like the movie? 1301 00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:41,516 Well, Eastwood was dreamy 1302 00:54:41,649 --> 00:54:43,684 and I like a little violence. 1303 00:54:43,818 --> 00:54:46,654 The baby doesn't really like the violence. 1304 00:54:46,788 --> 00:54:49,624 Oh, honey. You seem cold. 1305 00:54:53,828 --> 00:54:54,996 And about the violence. 1306 00:54:55,129 --> 00:54:57,430 Just like Dirty Harry, 1307 00:54:57,565 --> 00:54:59,332 I'm gonna keep you... 1308 00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:03,771 and this baby safe forever. 1309 00:55:03,905 --> 00:55:05,606 Don't you worry. 1310 00:55:05,740 --> 00:55:07,775 I love you, Wayne Shannon. 1311 00:55:07,909 --> 00:55:09,911 I love you, Romana Lisa Capps. 1312 00:55:13,681 --> 00:55:16,584 Wayne Shannon, you're a dead man. 1313 00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:24,491 They tried to talk to me, my cousins and stuff, 1314 00:55:24,625 --> 00:55:25,960 and I just couldn't take it. 1315 00:55:26,093 --> 00:55:29,063 I was just-- madly in love with this woman. 1316 00:55:29,964 --> 00:55:31,398 Had a baby by her. 1317 00:55:32,166 --> 00:55:33,701 And, uh, we split up. 1318 00:55:34,101 --> 00:55:37,370 His, uh, wife at the time had left him 1319 00:55:37,505 --> 00:55:38,773 and then had actually stated 1320 00:55:38,906 --> 00:55:41,542 that the child that they had together, 1321 00:55:41,676 --> 00:55:43,678 or that he assumed they had together, 1322 00:55:43,811 --> 00:55:45,580 probably wasn't his. 1323 00:55:45,713 --> 00:55:48,850 And I think that at that time, he-- he lost his mind, 1324 00:55:48,983 --> 00:55:50,885 the wheels came off at that point. 1325 00:55:51,018 --> 00:55:52,419 Hey, I couldn't find 1326 00:55:52,553 --> 00:55:54,487 your car, man-- Holy shit. 1327 00:55:54,622 --> 00:55:57,625 You all right, man? 1328 00:55:57,758 --> 00:55:59,727 Oh-- yeah. 1329 00:55:59,861 --> 00:56:01,428 What the fuck's goin' on? 1330 00:56:02,797 --> 00:56:05,900 Well, Romana came down. 1331 00:56:07,568 --> 00:56:10,571 And, uh, she's leavin' me. 1332 00:56:13,808 --> 00:56:15,076 Sneaking around with Wayne Shannon. 1333 00:56:18,112 --> 00:56:19,714 Yeah. 1334 00:56:19,847 --> 00:56:22,149 So... 1335 00:56:23,084 --> 00:56:27,387 ...I have devised a plan and with your help 1336 00:56:27,521 --> 00:56:29,489 it's gonna work and I'll get her back. 1337 00:56:29,624 --> 00:56:32,159 Honestly. Let it go. 1338 00:56:32,293 --> 00:56:33,895 I've never heard of a broad changing her mind 1339 00:56:34,028 --> 00:56:35,997 after stepping out with a new man. 1340 00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:40,034 Maybe you're hitting that shit too hard, man. 1341 00:56:40,167 --> 00:56:41,769 Oh, wow. 1342 00:56:42,837 --> 00:56:44,705 Says my drug dealer. 1343 00:56:44,839 --> 00:56:46,741 What, overnight you grew a conscience? 1344 00:56:46,874 --> 00:56:49,777 Huh? You grew a fuckin' pair of balls? 1345 00:56:52,513 --> 00:56:54,481 Fuck you, Marty. Get down here. 1346 00:56:54,615 --> 00:56:56,751 -Have some of this with me. -I'm good. 1347 00:56:56,884 --> 00:56:58,719 Oh, you're good? Yeah. 1348 00:56:58,853 --> 00:57:00,988 You know, I fuckin' had your back 1349 00:57:01,122 --> 00:57:02,924 through it all. 1350 00:57:03,057 --> 00:57:04,825 I've fuckin' been there for you. 1351 00:57:04,959 --> 00:57:06,694 But I'm not fuckin' doin' this shit 1352 00:57:06,827 --> 00:57:08,029 and I'm not goin' down this fuckin' road with you. 1353 00:57:08,729 --> 00:57:10,031 What fuckin' road? 1354 00:57:10,164 --> 00:57:11,498 This fuckin' road with me 1355 00:57:11,632 --> 00:57:12,767 and the woman I love, Romana? 1356 00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:14,769 It's not fuckin' about Romana! 1357 00:57:14,902 --> 00:57:17,104 It's never been about Romana, it's about these fuckin' drugs. 1358 00:57:17,238 --> 00:57:19,173 That are killing you! 1359 00:57:19,307 --> 00:57:21,642 And I'm not gonna be here to see that. 1360 00:57:21,776 --> 00:57:23,778 You're not there for much, are you, Marty? 1361 00:57:25,746 --> 00:57:27,214 Chicken shit. 1362 00:57:27,348 --> 00:57:29,684 Your chicken shit ideas, 1363 00:57:29,817 --> 00:57:31,886 and you're a chicken shit lackey. 1364 00:57:33,521 --> 00:57:36,023 So, by all means, go fuck off. 1365 00:57:36,157 --> 00:57:38,960 Out the front door. And go home. 1366 00:57:39,961 --> 00:57:42,029 All right. 1367 00:57:42,163 --> 00:57:44,065 Call me if you need me. 1368 00:57:44,198 --> 00:57:46,033 You know where the fuck I am. Been there the last 20 years. 1369 00:57:46,167 --> 00:57:48,069 -Uh-huh. Mmm. -For you. 1370 00:57:50,972 --> 00:57:52,606 See you at Thanksgiving, asshole! 1371 00:58:01,282 --> 00:58:03,017 After the Romana split, 1372 00:58:03,150 --> 00:58:04,819 I'd never seen him like that. 1373 00:58:05,353 --> 00:58:07,487 He-- he wasn't Rodney anymore. 1374 00:58:08,723 --> 00:58:09,957 He wasn't the Rodney I know. 1375 00:58:11,258 --> 00:58:12,660 And that dude's the craziest guy, 1376 00:58:12,793 --> 00:58:14,261 so to be at that point, for me, 1377 00:58:14,395 --> 00:58:16,263 I didn't even know how to have his back. 1378 00:58:16,397 --> 00:58:18,132 I didn't know how to support him. 1379 00:58:18,265 --> 00:58:21,102 So, at that moment in time... 1380 00:58:22,003 --> 00:58:23,270 Rodney could've done anything. 1381 00:58:24,338 --> 00:58:25,706 Anything was possible. 1382 00:58:38,786 --> 00:58:41,856 I was up for four days on criss-cross speed. 1383 00:58:41,989 --> 00:58:44,492 Uh, had suicidal, uh, tendencies, 1384 00:58:44,658 --> 00:58:45,893 I had the suitcase 1385 00:58:46,027 --> 00:58:47,661 with the flares, like, dynamite. 1386 00:58:47,795 --> 00:58:49,163 I was gonna force her to go with me, 1387 00:58:49,296 --> 00:58:50,231 no matter which way you look at it. 1388 00:59:15,923 --> 00:59:17,958 What were you wearing that day? 1389 00:59:18,092 --> 00:59:19,160 I wore a sports jacket, 1390 00:59:19,293 --> 00:59:21,328 penny loafers, black tie, 1391 00:59:21,462 --> 00:59:24,965 a tie clasp with a round stone in it. 1392 00:59:25,099 --> 00:59:26,600 Why were you wearing a suit? 1393 00:59:26,734 --> 00:59:27,802 I wanted to impress my, uh, 1394 00:59:27,935 --> 00:59:29,603 wife when I picked her up. 1395 00:59:43,918 --> 00:59:45,352 I drove over to her mother's house 1396 00:59:45,486 --> 00:59:47,288 and asked her where she was at 1397 00:59:47,421 --> 00:59:48,956 and she said that she just left in her Javelin 1398 00:59:49,090 --> 00:59:51,959 to go down to Portland at the mall 1399 00:59:52,093 --> 00:59:54,061 and I figured, well, I'd just go ahead 1400 00:59:54,195 --> 00:59:57,364 try to catch her at the mall so I could talk to her and, 1401 00:59:57,498 --> 01:00:00,101 uh, drove from Seattle Federal Way to-- to Portland. 1402 01:00:00,234 --> 01:00:02,069 I parked my car in the loop. 1403 01:00:02,203 --> 01:00:03,771 So, you're saying that you were suicidal, 1404 01:00:03,904 --> 01:00:06,874 so you went to go take her hostage? 1405 01:00:07,007 --> 01:00:08,876 Yes, I did. I was gonna do it. 1406 01:00:09,009 --> 01:00:10,311 And that was a very serious thought 1407 01:00:10,444 --> 01:00:11,679 - in your mind? - Yes. 1408 01:00:18,786 --> 01:00:21,155 I took a taxi from there to the mall. 1409 01:00:21,288 --> 01:00:23,257 Jameson Beach mall, and step on it already. 1410 01:00:23,390 --> 01:00:26,026 But she wasn't there, missed her by 20 minutes. 1411 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,862 Plan B was to get ahead of her, 1412 01:00:27,995 --> 01:00:29,797 so I'd take an airplane back. 1413 01:00:29,930 --> 01:00:31,699 Right away I was worried, I just left the car, 1414 01:00:31,832 --> 01:00:33,234 took a cab from the air-- 1415 01:00:33,367 --> 01:00:36,170 from there, the mall, to the airport. 1416 01:00:36,303 --> 01:00:38,205 Got to the airport, I asked him how much 1417 01:00:38,339 --> 01:00:41,041 it'd be to ride coach to Seattle and they said $20. 1418 01:00:41,175 --> 01:00:43,010 I signed my name Dan Cooper. 1419 01:00:43,677 --> 01:00:46,147 Anytime y-- you start digging into something 1420 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:47,748 that happened in the past, 1421 01:00:47,882 --> 01:00:49,283 there are a lot of different things 1422 01:00:49,416 --> 01:00:50,951 that could or couldn't have happened, 1423 01:00:51,085 --> 01:00:53,687 and as time grows, you-- you-- 1424 01:00:53,821 --> 01:00:56,690 those facts are more difficult to uncover. 1425 01:00:56,824 --> 01:00:59,160 Sometimes it-- it-- it's left with a question mark. 1426 01:00:59,293 --> 01:01:02,029 After being presented with what he gave us, 1427 01:01:02,163 --> 01:01:04,398 we're convinced enough to at least move forward 1428 01:01:04,533 --> 01:01:07,234 with this because, whether the story is true or not, 1429 01:01:07,368 --> 01:01:08,802 it-- it's an adventure. 1430 01:01:08,936 --> 01:01:09,970 And we went on a treasure hunt. 1431 01:01:13,274 --> 01:01:15,743 We're gonna pass, like, some sort of, 1432 01:01:15,876 --> 01:01:18,946 like, industrial area, which is where, 1433 01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:22,049 on some YouTube video, they dropped a pin that said 1434 01:01:22,183 --> 01:01:24,051 "DB money found," like, around that area. 1435 01:01:24,185 --> 01:01:25,419 That's what I'm saying Tena Bar is-- 1436 01:01:25,554 --> 01:01:26,954 Right, right. 1437 01:01:27,087 --> 01:01:28,355 Yeah, it's called Tena Bar, 1438 01:01:28,489 --> 01:01:29,823 and it-- it's located on several maps 1439 01:01:29,957 --> 01:01:31,458 so we're trying to, uh, convert, 1440 01:01:31,593 --> 01:01:35,329 you know, screenshots over to an actual GPS map 1441 01:01:35,462 --> 01:01:38,032 and, uh, figured out where it was. 1442 01:01:38,165 --> 01:01:39,967 DB was talkin' about a little cove 1443 01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:41,468 that he buried the money at 1444 01:01:41,603 --> 01:01:43,737 and we think that's the cove right there. 1445 01:01:43,871 --> 01:01:45,105 Outside the cove. 1446 01:01:45,239 --> 01:01:47,474 So we'll be able to park on the road 1447 01:01:47,609 --> 01:01:50,477 or maybe even closer, pop down, and... 1448 01:01:51,546 --> 01:01:53,080 theoretically get it. 1449 01:01:53,214 --> 01:01:55,749 This is, um, a geographic area 1450 01:01:55,883 --> 01:01:57,284 that is-- it's very, very, rural. 1451 01:01:57,418 --> 01:02:00,054 Flat and open and it has a lot of growth, 1452 01:02:00,187 --> 01:02:01,789 there's no malls out there. 1453 01:02:01,922 --> 01:02:03,891 Road closed. - Well, this is us. 1454 01:02:04,024 --> 01:02:05,759 As we pull up to the end of the road, 1455 01:02:05,893 --> 01:02:07,928 we have the anticipation, as you're starting, 1456 01:02:08,062 --> 01:02:10,331 that you might actually dig up, 1457 01:02:10,464 --> 01:02:12,166 you know, $190,000. 1458 01:02:12,299 --> 01:02:14,134 You know, a 48 year mystery solved, 1459 01:02:14,268 --> 01:02:16,036 you know, in a handful of hours. 1460 01:02:16,170 --> 01:02:17,438 How're you feeling? 1461 01:02:17,572 --> 01:02:19,373 I'm optimistic, but still-- 1462 01:02:19,507 --> 01:02:22,476 I have to be a realist. If it's there, though. 1463 01:02:22,611 --> 01:02:25,746 He says he can find it, so we're gonna give it a go. 1464 01:02:25,879 --> 01:02:27,481 The money they did find right down there-- 1465 01:02:27,616 --> 01:02:30,251 Yeah. We're looking at the cove that he had identified 1466 01:02:30,384 --> 01:02:32,286 as a landmark to where he-- 1467 01:02:32,419 --> 01:02:33,854 How far is it away? 1468 01:02:33,988 --> 01:02:35,489 Like, 900 feet, it's close. 1469 01:02:35,624 --> 01:02:37,057 Well, let's gear up, let's get all the stuff 1470 01:02:37,191 --> 01:02:39,126 we need for, uh, hoofing here 1471 01:02:39,260 --> 01:02:41,195 and anything we need to dig it out. 1472 01:02:41,328 --> 01:02:42,896 I mean, let's do it. 1473 01:02:43,030 --> 01:02:44,131 If it's there, we're gonna find it right now. 1474 01:02:45,165 --> 01:02:46,900 Carry the money out there. 1475 01:02:47,034 --> 01:02:49,436 When they were getting out of the vehicle, 1476 01:02:49,571 --> 01:02:50,971 they grabbed a duffel bag 1477 01:02:51,105 --> 01:02:52,806 and then a backpack that was empty, 1478 01:02:52,940 --> 01:02:54,441 not one single thing in it and I could hear them 1479 01:02:54,576 --> 01:02:56,443 talkin', sayin', "We'll just put the money in this." 1480 01:02:56,578 --> 01:02:58,412 Why would they do that unless they really felt 1481 01:02:58,546 --> 01:02:59,780 there was money out there? 1482 01:02:59,913 --> 01:03:01,115 Because we had backpacks, 1483 01:03:01,248 --> 01:03:02,783 we could've easily carried it out. 1484 01:03:02,916 --> 01:03:04,818 But instead they had an empty backpack, 1485 01:03:04,952 --> 01:03:06,954 so that was part of the-- one of the times 1486 01:03:07,087 --> 01:03:09,390 when I thought, "Well, this-- this is real 1487 01:03:09,524 --> 01:03:10,991 and we might find this money." 1488 01:03:11,125 --> 01:03:12,527 So, are you guys armed right now? 1489 01:03:12,661 --> 01:03:14,061 Are you guys carryin'? 1490 01:03:14,194 --> 01:03:15,396 Don. Don was-- 1491 01:03:15,530 --> 01:03:17,231 Are you guys carrying a weapon? 1492 01:03:17,364 --> 01:03:18,866 Well, I don't think we need it out here, do we? 1493 01:03:18,999 --> 01:03:20,501 No, we don't, I was just makin' sure 1494 01:03:20,635 --> 01:03:21,835 that we're all safe and we're all on the same page. 1495 01:03:21,969 --> 01:03:23,437 Oh, yeah. 1496 01:03:23,571 --> 01:03:24,972 He gets on a shootin' spree, he might not quit. 1497 01:03:25,105 --> 01:03:26,006 Well, I only brought one clip-- 1498 01:03:26,140 --> 01:03:27,408 Cameramen are next! 1499 01:03:29,443 --> 01:03:31,945 Let's go get the money! 1500 01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:33,447 How're you feelin' right now? 1501 01:03:33,581 --> 01:03:35,949 Real good. I'm gonna go dig my money up. 1502 01:03:36,083 --> 01:03:38,352 The main thing is I didn't harm nobody. 1503 01:03:38,485 --> 01:03:42,323 I just got the money. I never was gonna harm nobody. 1504 01:03:42,456 --> 01:03:44,925 A little dynamite don't scare anybody, does it? 1505 01:03:45,059 --> 01:03:47,361 It does. 1506 01:03:47,995 --> 01:03:49,963 When you're way up in the air. 1507 01:03:50,097 --> 01:03:51,131 What was your intention 1508 01:03:51,265 --> 01:03:52,600 getting on that plane? 1509 01:03:52,734 --> 01:03:54,001 Getting on that plane was to, 1510 01:03:54,134 --> 01:03:56,571 uh-- uh, get ahead of her. 1511 01:03:57,071 --> 01:03:58,972 Well, things escalated. 1512 01:03:59,473 --> 01:04:01,576 I said I might as well get some cash 1513 01:04:01,710 --> 01:04:04,078 and do a quick robbery 1514 01:04:04,211 --> 01:04:06,246 and, uh, that's when I realized 1515 01:04:06,380 --> 01:04:08,982 that I had the suitcase anyway, 1516 01:04:09,116 --> 01:04:11,385 that I would go ahead and use that suitcase 1517 01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:13,521 as a bomb threat and take the plane over. 1518 01:04:30,705 --> 01:04:32,239 Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tina 1519 01:04:32,373 --> 01:04:33,874 and I'm your chief flight attendant. 1520 01:04:34,007 --> 01:04:35,543 We go back and forth up the coast, 1521 01:04:35,677 --> 01:04:38,946 I-- it was just like any normal flight. 1522 01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:40,582 Done it 1,000 times. 1523 01:04:40,715 --> 01:04:42,282 I'd like to welcome you aboard 1524 01:04:42,416 --> 01:04:45,285 Northwest Orient 727 nonstop service 1525 01:04:45,419 --> 01:04:47,121 from Portland to Seattle. 1526 01:04:47,254 --> 01:04:49,056 At this time, we'd like to ask you to... 1527 01:04:49,189 --> 01:04:50,457 - Here you go. - Thank you. 1528 01:04:51,693 --> 01:04:53,360 Is everything all right? 1529 01:04:53,494 --> 01:04:56,997 Yeah, uh, I lost my wife. 1530 01:04:57,131 --> 01:04:58,666 Oh, I'm so sorry. 1531 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,401 But, you know what, Flo, 1532 01:05:00,535 --> 01:05:02,336 I think that everything is gonna be all right. 1533 01:05:02,469 --> 01:05:04,204 You just keep those drinks comin'... 1534 01:05:04,338 --> 01:05:05,973 ...and at the end of this flight 1535 01:05:06,106 --> 01:05:07,441 I'm gonna have a nice, big tip for ya. 1536 01:05:07,575 --> 01:05:09,209 - Oh, okay. - Flo came and got me 1537 01:05:09,343 --> 01:05:12,012 and said that there was a-- 1538 01:05:12,146 --> 01:05:14,549 disturbing passenger in 18E. 1539 01:05:15,182 --> 01:05:17,384 I thought I'd go by and take a look. 1540 01:05:17,519 --> 01:05:19,186 Excuse me. 1541 01:05:19,788 --> 01:05:22,122 Oh, did you want me to give this to Flo? 1542 01:05:22,256 --> 01:05:24,024 I know you've been hot on her tail. 1543 01:05:24,158 --> 01:05:26,661 No, no, no. Um, that's quite all right. 1544 01:05:26,795 --> 01:05:29,463 That's-- that's for you. 1545 01:05:29,597 --> 01:05:31,465 Oh, you're not very picky, are you? 1546 01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:33,967 I'm flattered, but married. 1547 01:05:36,303 --> 01:05:37,572 I think you'd better take a good, 1548 01:05:37,705 --> 01:05:39,541 - long look at that note. - Okay. 1549 01:05:44,311 --> 01:05:46,346 She read the note and then I went and flashed 1550 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,616 the suitcase in front of her and kinda looked at me 1551 01:05:48,750 --> 01:05:51,952 and stuttered all the way up to the-- fast as she could. 1552 01:05:52,654 --> 01:05:55,322 Auto coming on. Okay. 1553 01:05:57,090 --> 01:05:58,358 Is everything all right? 1554 01:06:03,030 --> 01:06:05,567 "$200,000 in negotiable 1555 01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:09,704 American currency and-- four parachutes 1556 01:06:09,838 --> 01:06:11,639 or this plane blows. 1557 01:06:12,272 --> 01:06:15,743 Too bad it's Thanksgiving and not April Fools. 1558 01:06:15,877 --> 01:06:17,478 - Yeah, right? - Who put you up to this? 1559 01:06:17,612 --> 01:06:19,313 The passenger in 18E. 1560 01:06:20,113 --> 01:06:21,348 This isn't a joke, sir. 1561 01:06:22,717 --> 01:06:24,384 Let me see that thing. 1562 01:06:29,356 --> 01:06:31,325 It smells like whiskey. 1563 01:06:31,458 --> 01:06:32,594 You know, I'll tell you what. 1564 01:06:32,727 --> 01:06:35,630 Here, you tell 007 back there 1565 01:06:35,763 --> 01:06:37,464 if he wants to earn his wings, 1566 01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:40,067 he can come up here and ask me next time, okay? 1567 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,401 He showed me the bomb, captain. 1568 01:06:42,436 --> 01:06:44,104 I think this is really happening. 1569 01:06:44,672 --> 01:06:46,073 Oh, shit. 1570 01:06:46,641 --> 01:06:49,309 Who the hell hijacks a plane on a 30-minute flight? 1571 01:06:50,043 --> 01:06:52,045 That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. 1572 01:06:53,615 --> 01:06:55,082 All right, punch in the Squawk Code 1573 01:06:55,215 --> 01:06:56,684 and, uh, make the call. 1574 01:06:59,152 --> 01:07:00,788 Metro tower, this is 1575 01:07:00,922 --> 01:07:03,725 Northwest Orient flight 305. 1576 01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:06,794 We have a-- situation. 1577 01:07:08,563 --> 01:07:09,597 Yeah, we do. 1578 01:07:09,731 --> 01:07:11,164 All right, auto coming off. 1579 01:07:12,700 --> 01:07:14,602 Okay, everybody, could we settle down, please? 1580 01:07:14,736 --> 01:07:16,503 Please, quiet, we-- we don't have 1581 01:07:16,638 --> 01:07:18,438 a lot of time here, guys, so we're on limited time. 1582 01:07:18,573 --> 01:07:21,041 Thank you. Um, first question. 1583 01:07:21,174 --> 01:07:22,577 Was there ever any attempt 1584 01:07:22,710 --> 01:07:24,646 to dissuade him or refuse his orders? 1585 01:07:26,548 --> 01:07:29,049 The safety of the crew is paramount 1586 01:07:29,182 --> 01:07:30,785 in a situation like that. 1587 01:07:30,919 --> 01:07:33,721 We were honoring his requests 1588 01:07:33,855 --> 01:07:36,524 and therefore made no attempt 1589 01:07:36,658 --> 01:07:40,595 to impede his mission, per se. 1590 01:07:40,728 --> 01:07:43,130 Well, I went up to the pilot, 1591 01:07:43,263 --> 01:07:45,600 he was telling me, uh, what-- what they were gonna do. 1592 01:07:45,733 --> 01:07:47,334 They'll have the money. 1593 01:07:47,467 --> 01:07:48,836 And I said, for a good gesture, 1594 01:07:48,970 --> 01:07:50,538 I'll let everybody off the plane. 1595 01:07:50,672 --> 01:07:52,406 And, uh, meanwhile, I'm talking 1596 01:07:52,540 --> 01:07:54,241 to the sheriff's department and they said, 1597 01:07:54,374 --> 01:07:55,743 uh, they got two 'chutes from McCord airport base 1598 01:07:55,877 --> 01:07:57,311 and they got two from somewhere else. 1599 01:07:57,444 --> 01:07:58,846 One's for green, one's for brown. 1600 01:07:58,980 --> 01:08:00,848 So, I took the green one because I knew 1601 01:08:00,982 --> 01:08:03,283 that the air force packed 'em and I wasn't gonna die. 1602 01:08:03,417 --> 01:08:05,185 I didn't wanna harm anybody. 1603 01:08:05,319 --> 01:08:07,087 I didn't have any dynamite in that suitcase, 1604 01:08:07,220 --> 01:08:09,456 it was all flares and-- and an alarm clock. 1605 01:08:09,591 --> 01:08:11,158 I didn't mean anybody harm, 1606 01:08:11,291 --> 01:08:12,694 but it was too late to back out. 1607 01:08:12,827 --> 01:08:14,562 After we secured the money and the parachute, 1608 01:08:14,696 --> 01:08:18,265 we took off from Seattle and then he asked us to lower 1609 01:08:18,398 --> 01:08:20,467 our airspeed and our altitude, which we did. 1610 01:08:20,602 --> 01:08:22,169 All right, fellas, 1611 01:08:22,302 --> 01:08:23,838 I'm gonna need you to take this thing down 1612 01:08:23,972 --> 01:08:25,405 to about 10,000 feet 1613 01:08:25,540 --> 01:08:26,741 and slow it down to about 100 knots. 1614 01:08:27,575 --> 01:08:29,777 But, sir, it's inclement weather here. 1615 01:08:29,911 --> 01:08:31,713 Just-- just-- I know what this bird can do, 1616 01:08:31,846 --> 01:08:34,247 just, please, follow my request. 1617 01:08:34,381 --> 01:08:38,318 Tina. Sweet Tina. 1618 01:08:39,053 --> 01:08:40,755 I'm gonna have to have you stay up here now. 1619 01:08:40,888 --> 01:08:42,523 I don't wanna see you get hurt. 1620 01:08:43,223 --> 01:08:44,692 I don't wanna see anybody get hurt. 1621 01:08:44,826 --> 01:08:46,426 And what was he like? 1622 01:08:46,561 --> 01:08:48,362 How was his demeanor during the ordeal? 1623 01:08:48,495 --> 01:08:49,864 Well, he was rather nice. 1624 01:08:50,698 --> 01:08:53,367 Other than he wanted certain things done. 1625 01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:55,737 He was never cruel or nasty. 1626 01:08:56,971 --> 01:08:58,539 He even ordered a second bourbon 1627 01:08:58,673 --> 01:08:59,907 and paid his drink tab. 1628 01:09:00,942 --> 01:09:03,243 He even tried to tip me. 1629 01:09:07,982 --> 01:09:11,686 ♪ He's the leader of the band ♪ 1630 01:09:13,721 --> 01:09:18,660 ♪ Takes strides against his enemies ♪ 1631 01:09:18,793 --> 01:09:24,498 ♪ Down coke-filled hallways ♪ 1632 01:09:24,632 --> 01:09:27,669 ♪ Against what his mother said ♪ 1633 01:09:30,605 --> 01:09:33,440 ♪ Blonde hair, blue eyed 1634 01:09:35,610 --> 01:09:40,915 ♪ An angel in the daylight 1635 01:09:41,049 --> 01:09:42,950 ♪ Come night, he's three tabs deep ♪ 1636 01:09:43,084 --> 01:09:46,521 ♪ And senseless ♪ 1637 01:09:46,654 --> 01:09:51,291 ♪ Against the face of violence... ♪ 1638 01:09:51,425 --> 01:09:53,628 Given the conditions of the jump, 1639 01:09:53,761 --> 01:09:55,697 do you think he could've survived? 1640 01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:57,364 Um... 1641 01:09:57,497 --> 01:09:59,199 ...without any training? 1642 01:09:59,332 --> 01:10:01,334 Uh, I think his chances were between slim and none. 1643 01:10:04,872 --> 01:10:10,277 ♪ Oh, I see myself free falling ♪ 1644 01:10:10,410 --> 01:10:13,881 ♪ Being the woman to his addiction ♪ 1645 01:10:40,440 --> 01:10:42,777 I went right down on the Columbia River. 1646 01:10:42,910 --> 01:10:46,914 I left $5,880 on the beach and I took 300 more out 1647 01:10:47,048 --> 01:10:49,550 and I went forth and buried the other part on the way out. 1648 01:11:13,875 --> 01:11:18,913 ♪ Oh, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby ♪ 1649 01:11:19,046 --> 01:11:23,985 ♪ Hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me, baby ♪ 1650 01:11:31,793 --> 01:11:35,730 ♪ Oh, no, no, no, no, no ♪ 1651 01:11:52,513 --> 01:11:54,347 When we got out there, you know, 1652 01:11:54,481 --> 01:11:56,483 it's a matter of-- kind of getting, uh, a feel 1653 01:11:56,617 --> 01:11:59,486 of the geographic area and then following his lead 1654 01:11:59,620 --> 01:12:02,455 by where he described the money being buried. 1655 01:12:02,590 --> 01:12:06,359 And so from the gate's location is it to the south? 1656 01:12:06,493 --> 01:12:08,830 Wherever that money that I buried the first time-- 1657 01:12:09,530 --> 01:12:12,033 I go from there, down to the cove, 1658 01:12:12,166 --> 01:12:13,968 there's a great big black onyx rock. 1659 01:12:14,101 --> 01:12:15,903 That's where I buried the money. 1660 01:12:16,037 --> 01:12:17,705 Just off to the main track where they ride motorcycles? 1661 01:12:17,839 --> 01:12:19,774 - Yeah. - Okay. 1662 01:12:19,907 --> 01:12:21,374 He was all on board and knew that it was there. 1663 01:12:21,509 --> 01:12:22,977 That wasn't a question, it was-- 1664 01:12:23,110 --> 01:12:24,579 it's there and we just need to find it. 1665 01:12:24,712 --> 01:12:26,581 Holy shit, it's all grown-in 1666 01:12:26,714 --> 01:12:28,481 48 years later. 1667 01:12:29,217 --> 01:12:30,952 We're comin' straight through the woods. 1668 01:12:31,085 --> 01:12:32,620 Where I put the first money was down there 1669 01:12:32,753 --> 01:12:33,988 and I climbed over a barbed-wire fence 1670 01:12:34,121 --> 01:12:36,958 and cut my pants and came over on a hill. 1671 01:12:37,592 --> 01:12:40,895 Then I followed it out this way toward Woodland. 1672 01:12:41,028 --> 01:12:42,563 - Right, right. - The lights 1673 01:12:42,697 --> 01:12:44,131 He came up over a berm. 1674 01:12:44,732 --> 01:12:48,435 And then there was a dirt road-- 1675 01:12:48,569 --> 01:12:50,071 a sandy dirt road. 1676 01:12:50,204 --> 01:12:53,007 So, if this is that dirt road, we gotta be close 1677 01:12:53,140 --> 01:12:56,510 because that bay is right over there. 1678 01:12:57,211 --> 01:12:58,980 All this new growth can cover up something 1679 01:12:59,113 --> 01:13:00,815 that's five, six feet tall, easily. 1680 01:13:00,948 --> 01:13:02,482 Where are you? 1681 01:13:02,617 --> 01:13:04,118 Give me a little bit of reference. 1682 01:13:04,252 --> 01:13:05,887 Well, we're moving faster 1683 01:13:06,020 --> 01:13:07,722 than you we-- we're moving south on the road. 1684 01:13:07,855 --> 01:13:09,422 If you guys get up north on that little area over here-- 1685 01:13:09,557 --> 01:13:10,858 How you feelin'? 1686 01:13:10,992 --> 01:13:13,493 Uh, he's just kind of dialing it in. 1687 01:13:13,628 --> 01:13:15,462 I-- I feel optimistic right now. 1688 01:13:16,764 --> 01:13:18,666 Walked up further, went further north, 1689 01:13:18,799 --> 01:13:20,500 and he insists that it's way above 1690 01:13:20,635 --> 01:13:22,937 the flood stage and-- and-- and tidal influence. 1691 01:13:23,070 --> 01:13:24,939 And found, what I thought, was a really good 1692 01:13:25,072 --> 01:13:26,807 potential target area. 1693 01:13:26,941 --> 01:13:28,776 There's a really cool area up here 1694 01:13:28,910 --> 01:13:31,712 where it does have a high berm and it definitely would be 1695 01:13:31,846 --> 01:13:34,447 probably above flood stage and tide stage. 1696 01:13:34,582 --> 01:13:35,816 So, check out-- you know, 'cause he said 1697 01:13:35,950 --> 01:13:37,450 there was a distinctive berm. 1698 01:13:37,585 --> 01:13:38,986 - Look how this comes up. - Yeah. 1699 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,188 It's all sand but when you get up on there 1700 01:13:41,322 --> 01:13:43,724 it's full of, uh, old, 1701 01:13:43,858 --> 01:13:47,061 uh, RV or off-road vehicle tracks. 1702 01:13:47,194 --> 01:13:48,596 -Yeah. -With access 1703 01:13:48,729 --> 01:13:50,197 right here to the road. 1704 01:13:50,331 --> 01:13:51,899 It does fit the description of the area. 1705 01:13:52,033 --> 01:13:53,768 And then he did say he followed it out. 1706 01:13:53,901 --> 01:13:56,003 - Yeah. - So he buried it 1707 01:13:56,137 --> 01:13:58,005 and then saw... 1708 01:13:58,139 --> 01:14:01,042 tracks, motorcycle-- whatever that came back out. 1709 01:14:01,175 --> 01:14:03,476 So this could be where he came out. 1710 01:14:03,611 --> 01:14:05,445 If I follow those tracks out, 1711 01:14:05,579 --> 01:14:07,148 I should be able to get to a road 1712 01:14:07,281 --> 01:14:11,118 and I did, I walked out and got to the main road 1713 01:14:11,252 --> 01:14:12,787 and then this cowboy picks me up. 1714 01:14:21,796 --> 01:14:24,464 Ooh-ooh-ooh! You just party out there, man? 1715 01:14:26,701 --> 01:14:28,235 Somethin' like that. 1716 01:14:28,369 --> 01:14:30,503 Well, hop in, huh? 1717 01:14:32,106 --> 01:14:33,774 And if it wasn't for that cowboy 1718 01:14:33,908 --> 01:14:36,243 that picked me up drinkin' alcohol, 1719 01:14:36,377 --> 01:14:38,646 headin' to a bar in Woodland, I would've never made it, 1720 01:14:38,779 --> 01:14:40,147 I don't think. 1721 01:14:40,281 --> 01:14:41,816 You have no idea how much I appreciate this. 1722 01:14:42,817 --> 01:14:45,219 Here. For the trouble. 1723 01:14:45,353 --> 01:14:48,522 Hey, appreciate! See you down the road, hoss. 1724 01:14:48,656 --> 01:14:49,924 Rode me up to Piggly Wiggly's, 1725 01:14:50,057 --> 01:14:51,826 he says, "Hurry up, get in there, 1726 01:14:51,959 --> 01:14:53,627 you get your shoes 'cause they close at ten." 1727 01:14:53,761 --> 01:14:55,663 And I went across the street and down 1728 01:14:55,796 --> 01:14:57,665 this alley 'cause there's a phone booth right there. 1729 01:14:57,798 --> 01:14:58,866 Called a taxi to bring me back to Portland, Oregon. 1730 01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,969 ♪ You help me baby ♪ 1731 01:15:02,103 --> 01:15:04,238 ♪ Said you got your misgivings ♪ 1732 01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,709 ♪ But I'm out here day to day ♪ 1733 01:15:08,843 --> 01:15:11,812 ♪ Working hard just for my living ♪ 1734 01:15:13,247 --> 01:15:16,517 ♪ And that's the truth, baby 1735 01:15:16,650 --> 01:15:18,152 You pretty much made it clear. 1736 01:15:18,285 --> 01:15:19,754 You-- you're free and clear, pretty much. 1737 01:15:19,887 --> 01:15:21,088 I'm free. I'm goin' home. 1738 01:15:21,222 --> 01:15:22,990 I said, "I'm goin' home." 1739 01:15:23,124 --> 01:15:24,658 There's nothin-- no-- nobody knows who I am. 1740 01:15:24,792 --> 01:15:26,293 Driving home across the bridge, 1741 01:15:26,427 --> 01:15:27,895 got into Oregon and I got up towards Olympia 1742 01:15:28,029 --> 01:15:30,031 and I saw the-- state patrol. 1743 01:15:30,164 --> 01:15:32,533 There must've been ten cars coming down the other side 1744 01:15:32,666 --> 01:15:35,536 with the army, a bunch of 'em, and these big trucks 1745 01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:37,104 are goin' down the road and I'm goin', 1746 01:15:37,238 --> 01:15:40,207 "Uh-oh, might be for me." You know? 1747 01:15:40,341 --> 01:15:42,977 So, I turn the transistor radio on, it says a manhunt. 1748 01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:44,545 Police believe he left 1749 01:15:44,678 --> 01:15:46,280 the 727 in the flatlands 1750 01:15:46,414 --> 01:15:48,082 of Oregon or Washington, but they are still looking 1751 01:15:48,215 --> 01:15:50,985 in four states, even around the airport. 1752 01:15:51,118 --> 01:15:52,720 November 25th at my mom's house 1753 01:15:52,853 --> 01:15:54,989 to get my dinner-- turkey dinner. 1754 01:15:55,122 --> 01:15:56,891 I ate there then went downstairs and went to bed. 1755 01:15:57,024 --> 01:15:58,993 Slept 'til about two or three in the afternoon 1756 01:15:59,126 --> 01:16:00,828 and my dad said, "You had a rough night, 1757 01:16:00,961 --> 01:16:02,663 must've been out with some girls with him 1758 01:16:02,797 --> 01:16:04,031 or something, always with those girls." 1759 01:16:04,165 --> 01:16:05,266 And my mom said, "Oh, let him go, 1760 01:16:05,399 --> 01:16:06,801 it's Thanksgiving." 1761 01:16:06,934 --> 01:16:08,002 You know, and everything. 1762 01:16:16,143 --> 01:16:20,181 ♪ Whoa, she was my little machine ♪ 1763 01:16:20,314 --> 01:16:22,049 I got home and then I sat there 1764 01:16:22,183 --> 01:16:24,018 and then Joe McDonald came over, the neighbor, 1765 01:16:24,151 --> 01:16:26,187 and said, "Oh, you gotta turn the TV on." 1766 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,189 So then I turn the TV on and my-- 1767 01:16:28,322 --> 01:16:30,624 my dad's sitting there and he goes, "Betty! 1768 01:16:30,758 --> 01:16:32,760 This looks like Rod! 1769 01:16:32,893 --> 01:16:34,995 But how could it be Rod? He's sittin' right here." 1770 01:16:35,129 --> 01:16:37,698 That's what he said to my mother. 1771 01:16:37,832 --> 01:16:39,200 Well, that's another good lookin' Irish kid, 1772 01:16:39,333 --> 01:16:40,935 isn't it? 1773 01:16:41,068 --> 01:16:42,269 What, half Irish? 1774 01:16:42,403 --> 01:16:44,105 I give the Lions plus three. 1775 01:16:44,238 --> 01:16:46,807 You always bet on the Lions, the Lions never win. 1776 01:16:46,941 --> 01:16:48,309 I pick the Lions on Thanksgiving, 1777 01:16:48,442 --> 01:16:49,710 that's the way it is. 1778 01:16:50,377 --> 01:16:51,745 No smoking in the house. 1779 01:16:53,681 --> 01:16:56,684 My second family! My home away from home! 1780 01:16:57,051 --> 01:16:58,986 Happy Thanksgiving, McDonald. 1781 01:17:02,389 --> 01:17:05,226 McDonald, how many times do I have to tell you 1782 01:17:05,359 --> 01:17:07,828 to keep your fuckin' feet off my fuckin' table? 1783 01:17:07,962 --> 01:17:10,030 Senior, these are bitchin' Italian leather. 1784 01:17:10,164 --> 01:17:12,666 I don't care if they came straight off the feet 1785 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,835 of Elvis Aaron Presley himself. 1786 01:17:15,803 --> 01:17:17,705 Off the table or in your ass. 1787 01:17:18,372 --> 01:17:20,708 -You pick. -Sorry, sorry. 1788 01:17:21,142 --> 01:17:23,244 You know, McDonald, actin' like that, 1789 01:17:23,377 --> 01:17:25,846 you're never gonna get yourself a babe like my Babs here. 1790 01:17:26,814 --> 01:17:28,048 You two make me sick. 1791 01:17:28,182 --> 01:17:29,717 Piss off, Rodney. 1792 01:17:29,850 --> 01:17:31,152 Piss off, Barbara. 1793 01:17:31,285 --> 01:17:32,820 Hey, piss off, Rod. 1794 01:17:32,953 --> 01:17:34,989 Piss off, Jack. You got a muzzle for her? 1795 01:17:35,122 --> 01:17:36,957 I can hold my own. 1796 01:17:37,091 --> 01:17:38,993 You know that from experience. 1797 01:17:39,126 --> 01:17:40,094 That's 'cause you wear the pants 1798 01:17:40,227 --> 01:17:41,428 in the relationship. 1799 01:17:41,563 --> 01:17:43,030 Oh, Rod, you know that's not true. 1800 01:17:43,164 --> 01:17:46,800 Hey, hey, guys, cut it out! 1801 01:17:47,301 --> 01:17:49,970 When can a mother just have a nice, 1802 01:17:50,104 --> 01:17:51,672 peaceful holiday 1803 01:17:51,805 --> 01:17:54,408 with her two lovely boys and her dapper husband? 1804 01:17:56,043 --> 01:17:58,679 Oh, I wish my family was this well-behaved. 1805 01:17:58,812 --> 01:18:00,681 Hell, I just came here to get away from their asses. 1806 01:18:01,916 --> 01:18:04,118 Oh, and see if you guys watched the news! 1807 01:18:04,251 --> 01:18:07,922 Some guy hijacked a plane in Portland last night 1808 01:18:08,055 --> 01:18:09,456 and then jumped from it! 1809 01:18:09,591 --> 01:18:11,792 It's like some James Bond movie, man! 1810 01:18:11,926 --> 01:18:14,695 Ooh, I love James Bond! 1811 01:18:15,796 --> 01:18:17,431 Turn it on, Senior! 1812 01:18:21,268 --> 01:18:22,836 When he got on a plane 1813 01:18:22,970 --> 01:18:24,104 in Portland, Oregon last night, 1814 01:18:24,238 --> 01:18:25,773 he was just another passenger 1815 01:18:25,906 --> 01:18:27,241 who gave his name as D.A. Cooper. 1816 01:18:27,374 --> 01:18:29,243 But today, after hijacking a-- 1817 01:18:29,376 --> 01:18:32,746 A plane heist? In our backyard? 1818 01:18:33,180 --> 01:18:34,715 Oh, dear Lord! 1819 01:18:34,848 --> 01:18:36,417 This guy got away with it though. 1820 01:18:37,818 --> 01:18:39,019 - Betty. - Yeah? 1821 01:18:39,554 --> 01:18:41,288 This looks a lot like Rod. 1822 01:18:43,424 --> 01:18:46,695 How can it be Rod? He's sitting right here! 1823 01:18:46,860 --> 01:18:48,162 ...left aboard four crew members 1824 01:18:48,295 --> 01:18:49,730 and the hijacker. 1825 01:18:49,863 --> 01:18:51,031 I guess it's just another 1826 01:18:51,165 --> 01:18:52,433 good-looking Irish kid. 1827 01:18:54,401 --> 01:18:56,904 No smoking in the house! 1828 01:18:57,037 --> 01:18:58,405 ...with the full ransom 1829 01:18:58,540 --> 01:19:00,074 collected from the Seattle banks 1830 01:19:00,207 --> 01:19:02,042 and four parachutes aboard... 1831 01:19:02,176 --> 01:19:03,310 My dad didn't know, I didn't tell my dad and mom 1832 01:19:03,444 --> 01:19:04,912 for ten years after I did it. 1833 01:19:05,045 --> 01:19:06,280 So, did you tell anyone 1834 01:19:06,413 --> 01:19:08,015 right after you committed the crime? 1835 01:19:08,148 --> 01:19:08,949 My brother. My brother's known all along. 1836 01:19:09,083 --> 01:19:10,284 Golly! 1837 01:19:10,417 --> 01:19:12,186 Brigitte Bardot's hot as a pistol! 1838 01:19:12,319 --> 01:19:13,954 Oh, yeah? 1839 01:19:14,088 --> 01:19:15,789 You got the Brigitte Bardot edition? 1840 01:19:15,923 --> 01:19:17,258 -Let me take a look. -Hands off the merchandise. 1841 01:19:17,391 --> 01:19:18,792 Sorry, it's not like I need to see it, 1842 01:19:18,926 --> 01:19:20,060 I've seen it a thousand times. 1843 01:19:20,461 --> 01:19:22,229 I got Brigitte Bardot stored away up here 1844 01:19:22,363 --> 01:19:24,298 for very special occasions in the future. 1845 01:19:24,932 --> 01:19:26,233 Yeah? 1846 01:19:26,367 --> 01:19:28,068 Like the time you got busted by mom 1847 01:19:28,202 --> 01:19:30,037 looking for face lotion? 1848 01:19:30,538 --> 01:19:32,873 No, and I would prefer that we forget about that, 1849 01:19:33,007 --> 01:19:34,174 thank you very much. 1850 01:19:37,878 --> 01:19:39,213 Lotta good memories in this house. 1851 01:19:41,415 --> 01:19:42,783 Do you remember when we used to raid 1852 01:19:42,916 --> 01:19:44,852 dad's old movie cabinet 1853 01:19:44,985 --> 01:19:46,987 and we'd put on Public Enemy over and over and over again? 1854 01:19:47,522 --> 01:19:48,956 And I would play John Dillinger 1855 01:19:49,089 --> 01:19:50,124 and you'd play Pretty Boy Floyd? 1856 01:19:50,525 --> 01:19:51,792 Yeah, yeah. 1857 01:19:52,527 --> 01:19:53,994 Or how 'bout that kid across the street? 1858 01:19:54,495 --> 01:19:56,196 With the headgear? 1859 01:19:56,330 --> 01:19:57,532 What'd we call him? What'd we used to call him? 1860 01:19:57,666 --> 01:19:59,133 Uh-- 1861 01:19:59,266 --> 01:20:00,901 Brace-face Nelson! 1862 01:20:01,035 --> 01:20:03,538 What an idiot. 1863 01:20:05,406 --> 01:20:06,840 Gangster films... 1864 01:20:08,242 --> 01:20:09,810 I have a feeling I'm about to put 1865 01:20:09,943 --> 01:20:11,278 all those gangsters in the cinema to shame. 1866 01:20:13,447 --> 01:20:14,516 Keep dreamin', bud. 1867 01:20:15,949 --> 01:20:18,218 No, I'm not kidding. 1868 01:20:19,086 --> 01:20:20,821 Last night on the news, 1869 01:20:20,954 --> 01:20:21,989 the guy that jumped outta the plane, you remember? 1870 01:20:22,122 --> 01:20:23,223 Yeah. 1871 01:20:24,391 --> 01:20:26,160 You're sitting with him. It was me. 1872 01:20:28,663 --> 01:20:30,164 Full of shit. 1873 01:20:30,297 --> 01:20:31,365 I'm not full of shit. 1874 01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:33,500 I really did it. Look, come on. 1875 01:20:35,169 --> 01:20:36,970 If I didn't do it, how did I get these? 1876 01:20:44,011 --> 01:20:45,446 Rod, if you were that guy, 1877 01:20:45,580 --> 01:20:47,381 we'd be on our way to paradise with $200,000. 1878 01:20:49,517 --> 01:20:51,251 You really don't believe me. I jumped out of the plane! 1879 01:20:51,385 --> 01:20:53,588 I landed and about a quarter mile from where I landed 1880 01:20:53,722 --> 01:20:55,155 I buried all this money 1881 01:20:55,289 --> 01:20:56,524 next to this big black onyx rock! 1882 01:20:58,225 --> 01:20:59,893 I need you to come help me dig it up. 1883 01:21:00,427 --> 01:21:01,995 You're serious? 1884 01:21:02,129 --> 01:21:03,330 As a heart attack. 1885 01:21:04,431 --> 01:21:05,633 Okay, let's just say, 1886 01:21:05,767 --> 01:21:07,267 hypothetically, you were that guy. 1887 01:21:08,235 --> 01:21:10,204 Those bills would definitely be marked... 1888 01:21:11,004 --> 01:21:13,040 and if you got caught you'd be goin' to Walla Walla 1889 01:21:13,173 --> 01:21:14,942 for the rest of your goddamn life. 1890 01:21:16,443 --> 01:21:18,045 Bro, I need you to believe me on this. 1891 01:21:21,516 --> 01:21:23,117 Rod... 1892 01:21:23,250 --> 01:21:27,187 if you're that guy... don't go back there. 1893 01:21:27,321 --> 01:21:29,089 The Army Corps of Engineers 1894 01:21:29,223 --> 01:21:31,626 had dredged the Columbia River here in 1974. 1895 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,094 And the original money was found just south of here. 1896 01:21:34,228 --> 01:21:35,597 So, this, uh, probably 1897 01:21:35,730 --> 01:21:37,331 is the cove that he encountered. 1898 01:21:37,464 --> 01:21:39,133 And then he moved inland from there. 1899 01:21:39,667 --> 01:21:41,135 Have him come take a look at this. 1900 01:21:41,268 --> 01:21:43,137 And now on shore, 1901 01:21:43,270 --> 01:21:45,372 where FBI agents comb the sand like archaeologists. 1902 01:21:45,507 --> 01:21:49,009 All they found was $5,800 and no sign of D.B. Cooper. 1903 01:21:49,143 --> 01:21:50,244 Oh, yeah, it's here. 1904 01:21:50,812 --> 01:21:52,980 It's right on this-- we're right in the right area. 1905 01:21:54,314 --> 01:21:55,650 It's gotta be here somewhere. 1906 01:22:04,659 --> 01:22:06,260 And they're digging right by the flat rock, right? 1907 01:22:06,393 --> 01:22:07,461 Yeah. 1908 01:22:08,328 --> 01:22:10,230 To me, that whole group of rocks right there-- 1909 01:22:11,265 --> 01:22:14,101 Yeah, and that is-- he says that's black onyx. 1910 01:22:14,501 --> 01:22:16,704 And, yeah, there's several up in this area too, 1911 01:22:16,838 --> 01:22:19,707 so that's the only concentration of that. 1912 01:22:19,841 --> 01:22:21,041 Crews continue to dig 1913 01:22:21,175 --> 01:22:22,544 but found very little 1914 01:22:22,677 --> 01:22:24,211 of Cooper's green treasure today, 1915 01:22:24,344 --> 01:22:25,713 even though the discovery site 1916 01:22:25,847 --> 01:22:27,114 is looking like a very scientific 1917 01:22:27,247 --> 01:22:28,482 archaeological excavation. 1918 01:22:28,616 --> 01:22:29,617 Shovels gave way to backhoes, 1919 01:22:29,751 --> 01:22:31,452 the FBI and geologists 1920 01:22:31,586 --> 01:22:32,986 scooping out a test-trench up the beach. 1921 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:34,556 What they're trying to tell, 1922 01:22:34,689 --> 01:22:36,524 how long had D.B.'s money been here? 1923 01:22:36,658 --> 01:22:38,459 They knew certain levels were laid down on the beach 1924 01:22:38,593 --> 01:22:41,495 in 1974, but they found no money below that point. 1925 01:22:43,397 --> 01:22:44,431 - We got a whistle. - What's up? 1926 01:22:44,566 --> 01:22:46,333 Heard a whistle, 1927 01:22:46,467 --> 01:22:48,235 blood starts pumping, and I think, "Okay, 1928 01:22:48,368 --> 01:22:49,002 maybe somebody's found something of interest. 1929 01:22:50,137 --> 01:22:51,171 Is anybody in the woods? 1930 01:22:51,305 --> 01:22:53,006 There's a body. 1931 01:22:53,140 --> 01:22:54,141 I thought I heard somebody say, 1932 01:22:54,274 --> 01:22:55,275 "I found a body." 1933 01:22:55,409 --> 01:22:56,443 body. 1934 01:22:57,311 --> 01:22:59,714 Yeah, we might wanna go up there and check it out. 1935 01:22:59,848 --> 01:23:01,248 Well, I will just take this. 1936 01:23:01,381 --> 01:23:03,083 And then uh-- 1937 01:23:03,217 --> 01:23:04,151 and then I hear something about a warrant. 1938 01:23:04,284 --> 01:23:05,520 ...somebody hollerin'. 1939 01:23:05,653 --> 01:23:07,120 We don't know if it's a sheriff 1940 01:23:07,254 --> 01:23:09,122 or an officer or who it could be. 1941 01:23:09,256 --> 01:23:11,158 We're just out for a day hike and shooting some of the... 1942 01:23:12,827 --> 01:23:14,394 I mean, we knew going in 1943 01:23:14,529 --> 01:23:15,730 that we probably shouldn't be there. 1944 01:23:27,609 --> 01:23:30,612 Kids walk from the bus everyday 1945 01:23:30,745 --> 01:23:32,145 'cause I live down here. 1946 01:23:32,279 --> 01:23:34,649 That sign is pretty highly posted 1947 01:23:34,782 --> 01:23:36,483 -on that gate. -Yeah. 1948 01:23:36,618 --> 01:23:38,318 So is this all private property from the gate back? 1949 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,354 - Yessir. - Yeah. 1950 01:23:40,487 --> 01:23:42,189 Sorry, I'm not trying to be an ass. 1951 01:23:42,322 --> 01:23:43,558 - No, no. - And we're not either. 1952 01:23:43,691 --> 01:23:45,225 - I'm loaded. - So are we. 1953 01:23:45,359 --> 01:23:47,160 You have the complete right to-- yeah. 1954 01:23:47,294 --> 01:23:50,130 My name's Scott. Is that on? 1955 01:23:50,264 --> 01:23:51,666 - Do you want it to be on? - No. 1956 01:23:51,799 --> 01:23:54,636 It's not on you. 1957 01:23:55,670 --> 01:23:57,137 - Yeah. - It's recording. 1958 01:23:58,338 --> 01:23:59,406 What're you guys recovering? 1959 01:24:00,140 --> 01:24:01,375 You said you guys were down here 1960 01:24:01,509 --> 01:24:02,577 with a recovery agent? 1961 01:24:03,377 --> 01:24:04,444 What're you looking for? 1962 01:24:08,516 --> 01:24:09,617 Hey, you're on my property, 1963 01:24:09,751 --> 01:24:11,084 what're you looking for? 1964 01:24:11,218 --> 01:24:12,386 Is that your specific property? 1965 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:13,521 - Yeah! - I-- I thought 1966 01:24:13,655 --> 01:24:15,255 this was private property- 1967 01:24:15,389 --> 01:24:17,257 No, no, it says it all over the gate. 1968 01:24:17,391 --> 01:24:18,325 Why didn't you go back and get the money? 1969 01:24:18,458 --> 01:24:19,459 Pandora's box. 1970 01:24:19,594 --> 01:24:21,328 You open that box... 1971 01:24:21,461 --> 01:24:23,665 it's gonna happen all over again. 1972 01:24:23,798 --> 01:24:27,301 138 kidnapping cases plus the pilots, 1973 01:24:27,434 --> 01:24:29,469 another four, five of them. 1974 01:24:29,604 --> 01:24:31,138 That's-- you'd never get out of prison, 1975 01:24:31,271 --> 01:24:32,774 you'd never see the light of day. 1976 01:24:32,907 --> 01:24:34,609 I knew that I was still wanted. 1977 01:24:34,742 --> 01:24:36,611 It was, like, I was wanted all the time, 1978 01:24:36,744 --> 01:24:38,846 walking around and I thought maybe sooner or later 1979 01:24:38,980 --> 01:24:42,416 somebody'd recognize me, but that wasn't the case. 1980 01:24:42,817 --> 01:24:44,686 So I decided to go on the run for a while, 1981 01:24:44,819 --> 01:24:48,523 I went to Whitefish, Montana, went to, uh, Lake Tahoe, 1982 01:24:48,656 --> 01:24:50,457 I went to Reno, I went to Vegas. 1983 01:24:50,959 --> 01:24:52,727 I-- so-- you just-- you knew 1984 01:24:52,860 --> 01:24:55,563 you had done something so crazy 1985 01:24:55,697 --> 01:24:57,431 and you knew you would go to prison forever 1986 01:24:57,565 --> 01:24:59,466 so there's no way that you'd have ever bragged? 1987 01:24:59,601 --> 01:25:00,668 No. 1988 01:25:01,335 --> 01:25:03,470 But I did brag to Rita Coolidge. 1989 01:25:03,605 --> 01:25:06,106 I met her in Lake Tahoe, she's singing at a bar, 1990 01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:08,308 and she says, "Well, you know I did a movie 1991 01:25:08,442 --> 01:25:10,444 with Kris Kristofferson, Billy the Kid." 1992 01:25:11,278 --> 01:25:12,580 And she says, "You're more famous 1993 01:25:12,714 --> 01:25:13,781 than Billy the Kid." 1994 01:25:15,382 --> 01:25:16,851 She said, "I'd like to do a movie with you." 1995 01:25:18,218 --> 01:25:19,687 And so, she took her shoes off 1996 01:25:19,821 --> 01:25:22,189 and kept rubbing her feet on my knee and, uh, 1997 01:25:22,322 --> 01:25:23,658 getting close to this and I says, 1998 01:25:23,791 --> 01:25:25,325 "Well, she must like me a whole bunch." 1999 01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,630 I just made a movie with Kris 2000 01:25:28,763 --> 01:25:30,130 called Billy the Kid... 2001 01:25:31,431 --> 01:25:34,267 and things had gotten, well... 2002 01:25:35,870 --> 01:25:37,437 out of hand. 2003 01:25:40,675 --> 01:25:42,409 I was heartbroken at the time, you know, 2004 01:25:42,543 --> 01:25:45,713 and drinkin' more than I shoulda been. 2005 01:25:47,414 --> 01:25:50,417 ♪ All I was was patient 2006 01:25:50,551 --> 01:25:55,288 ♪ All I was was kind ♪ 2007 01:25:55,422 --> 01:25:58,860 ♪ But you found the burnt pieces ♪ 2008 01:25:58,993 --> 01:26:04,398 ♪ Of the love we left behind ♪ 2009 01:26:04,532 --> 01:26:08,770 ♪ The love we left behind ♪ 2010 01:26:10,270 --> 01:26:14,207 ♪ Oh, the love we left 2011 01:26:15,375 --> 01:26:18,178 ♪ Behind 2012 01:26:18,311 --> 01:26:21,649 ♪ Mm ♪ 2013 01:26:31,926 --> 01:26:34,529 - Hey, Stan. - Hey! 2014 01:26:35,129 --> 01:26:37,397 Can I get a Macallan on the rocks? 2015 01:26:37,865 --> 01:26:39,332 You know how I like it. 2016 01:26:41,401 --> 01:26:43,303 Now a lady who knows how to order whiskey... 2017 01:26:44,404 --> 01:26:45,472 that, I like. 2018 01:26:46,874 --> 01:26:48,776 Well, I been drinkin' long enough 2019 01:26:48,910 --> 01:26:50,277 to know what I like. 2020 01:26:50,410 --> 01:26:51,713 Well, that makes two of us. 2021 01:26:52,113 --> 01:26:54,481 And, I love that song that you sang tonight. 2022 01:26:54,615 --> 01:26:56,249 Who writes something like that? 2023 01:26:56,383 --> 01:26:57,885 That's incredible, I could really, you know, 2024 01:26:58,019 --> 01:26:59,520 hear all the pain coming out of you on that one. 2025 01:27:01,823 --> 01:27:02,890 Yeah. 2026 01:27:04,424 --> 01:27:05,927 Heartbreak is a funny thing. 2027 01:27:08,062 --> 01:27:09,496 There's always that one 2028 01:27:09,630 --> 01:27:11,231 that leaves with a piece of you. 2029 01:27:11,966 --> 01:27:15,268 And the only way I seem to cope is on a stage... 2030 01:27:16,671 --> 01:27:17,905 or with a few of these. 2031 01:27:22,342 --> 01:27:23,945 I'm sorry, I didn't catch your name. 2032 01:27:24,812 --> 01:27:27,481 Rodney Bonnifield. Pleasure to meet you. 2033 01:27:27,615 --> 01:27:28,883 Rita Coolidge. 2034 01:27:29,349 --> 01:27:31,251 Just like the town in Colorado. 2035 01:27:31,384 --> 01:27:32,419 Oh, yeah? 2036 01:27:33,688 --> 01:27:36,824 It's actually named after my family. 2037 01:27:38,893 --> 01:27:39,994 Now, that is funny because... 2038 01:27:40,895 --> 01:27:43,765 -I also have a long history-- -Oh, wait, wait, wait. 2039 01:27:44,599 --> 01:27:45,833 I wanna hear this. 2040 01:27:46,734 --> 01:27:49,804 - Stan, turn it up. - You got it. 2041 01:27:49,937 --> 01:27:51,839 In other news, 2042 01:27:51,973 --> 01:27:54,441 it's been two years since the D.B. Cooper hijacking 2043 01:27:54,575 --> 01:27:56,744 and still no sign of a suspect. 2044 01:27:57,578 --> 01:27:58,780 Oh, my gosh. 2045 01:27:58,913 --> 01:28:00,815 I'm fascinated by this guy. 2046 01:28:02,984 --> 01:28:06,788 It takes a real man to carry out a plan like that 2047 01:28:06,921 --> 01:28:08,355 and not harm a soul. 2048 01:28:09,657 --> 01:28:11,291 Now, that I will agree with you on. 2049 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,361 Yeah. 2050 01:28:14,494 --> 01:28:17,297 You know, he's probably on some beach somewhere 2051 01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:19,499 sippin' piña coladas 2052 01:28:19,634 --> 01:28:21,501 while I'm here in this bar 2053 01:28:21,636 --> 01:28:24,504 singin' songs to the same ten people every night. 2054 01:28:24,639 --> 01:28:26,908 Well, I can certainly see why! 2055 01:28:28,609 --> 01:28:30,410 You know, this D.B. Cooper fella, 2056 01:28:30,545 --> 01:28:32,580 he's probably on some white sandy beach somewhere 2057 01:28:32,713 --> 01:28:34,015 tossin' back a piña colada. 2058 01:28:34,715 --> 01:28:35,783 Or... 2059 01:28:37,585 --> 01:28:38,786 he's right here in this bar... 2060 01:28:40,721 --> 01:28:41,789 havin' drinks with you, miss. 2061 01:28:50,565 --> 01:28:55,903 ♪ Woke up this morning I was a thousand miles away ♪ 2062 01:28:56,037 --> 01:28:58,673 ♪ Didn't know just where I stand ♪ 2063 01:29:01,042 --> 01:29:06,747 ♪ Nothing on me but this beat up suitcase ♪ 2064 01:29:06,881 --> 01:29:09,917 ♪ And I know I got a plan ♪ 2065 01:29:10,051 --> 01:29:12,452 ♪ And I'll be runnin' now ♪ 2066 01:29:14,689 --> 01:29:17,124 ♪ 'Fore my feet ever hit the ground ♪ 2067 01:29:20,595 --> 01:29:22,697 ♪ I'll be runnin' now 2068 01:29:25,166 --> 01:29:27,735 ♪ 'Fore my feet ever hit the ground ♪ 2069 01:29:31,606 --> 01:29:35,676 ♪ And I'm running out of my head ♪ 2070 01:29:35,810 --> 01:29:37,545 ♪ Nobody's gonna bring me down ♪ 2071 01:29:37,678 --> 01:29:39,046 You know, I was thinkin'... 2072 01:29:41,616 --> 01:29:43,150 you should come to Denver with me. 2073 01:29:45,953 --> 01:29:47,555 I got a couple gigs there. 2074 01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,629 I can't go to Colorado with you. 2075 01:29:56,931 --> 01:29:58,833 I've had a fantastic time with you... 2076 01:30:02,036 --> 01:30:03,738 But the whole outlaw on the run thing... 2077 01:30:06,707 --> 01:30:07,775 kinda gets in the way. 2078 01:30:10,111 --> 01:30:11,178 I understand. 2079 01:30:30,831 --> 01:30:32,900 I've had a melody in my head all morning. 2080 01:30:36,804 --> 01:30:41,108 ♪ Run, D.B., run 2081 01:30:42,109 --> 01:30:44,612 ♪ Mm 2082 01:30:45,713 --> 01:30:49,884 ♪ Run, D.B., run 2083 01:30:52,253 --> 01:30:56,724 ♪ But for how long? 2084 01:30:58,092 --> 01:31:00,895 ♪ 'Cause eventually 2085 01:31:01,028 --> 01:31:03,798 ♪ You're gonna have to find somebody ♪ 2086 01:31:03,931 --> 01:31:08,501 ♪ To hold onto ♪ 2087 01:31:09,837 --> 01:31:11,205 Um, what do you-- 2088 01:31:11,339 --> 01:31:12,807 where do you think we go from here? 2089 01:31:12,940 --> 01:31:14,108 In this process? 2090 01:31:14,241 --> 01:31:15,943 Well, where we go from here? 2091 01:31:16,077 --> 01:31:17,678 First, we have some details that we have to vet out 2092 01:31:17,812 --> 01:31:19,814 and there are-- there are a few specific things 2093 01:31:19,947 --> 01:31:22,616 that may indicate, um, that, 2094 01:31:22,750 --> 01:31:25,219 still there's a chance that he is D.B. Cooper. 2095 01:31:25,353 --> 01:31:26,988 If we debunk those, then-- 2096 01:31:27,121 --> 01:31:29,123 then I think our options do shrink. 2097 01:31:29,256 --> 01:31:31,025 And if you analyze the facts 2098 01:31:31,158 --> 01:31:34,729 and his commitment to this dig, 2099 01:31:34,862 --> 01:31:38,699 um, you think, "Yes, it's true. It's real. 2100 01:31:38,833 --> 01:31:41,769 This individual is D.B. Cooper. 2101 01:31:41,902 --> 01:31:43,871 You know, we were disappointed at the end of the day 2102 01:31:44,005 --> 01:31:47,641 because in three hours we didn't solve a mystery 2103 01:31:47,775 --> 01:31:49,677 that had been going on for 48 years. 2104 01:31:49,810 --> 01:31:51,178 So we felt negligent. 2105 01:31:51,312 --> 01:31:53,080 But in reality, you know, we went out there 2106 01:31:53,214 --> 01:31:56,050 and gave it, you know, a good effort and, uh, again, 2107 01:31:56,183 --> 01:31:57,885 it doesn't mean that it's not there. 2108 01:31:58,019 --> 01:31:59,687 It just means we didn't find it. 2109 01:31:59,820 --> 01:32:02,590 So we, right now, today, don't know. 2110 01:32:03,057 --> 01:32:04,759 So what we need to do is fall back 2111 01:32:04,892 --> 01:32:06,527 and do some fact checking on some of the things 2112 01:32:06,660 --> 01:32:08,062 - that he's told us. - Hey. 2113 01:32:08,195 --> 01:32:10,664 Hey, um, we're doing some fact checking... 2114 01:32:11,465 --> 01:32:14,535 and does he have his brother's number? 2115 01:32:14,668 --> 01:32:16,137 Does Rod have his brother's number 2116 01:32:16,270 --> 01:32:17,638 or any phone numbers? 2117 01:32:17,772 --> 01:32:18,939 - 360. - Yep. 2118 01:32:20,608 --> 01:32:22,143 - 387. - Yep. 2119 01:32:22,276 --> 01:32:24,912 But he is, again, recouping from, uh, 2120 01:32:25,046 --> 01:32:26,680 prostate surgery 2121 01:32:26,814 --> 01:32:29,083 and he wants to recoup a little bit. 2122 01:32:29,216 --> 01:32:31,952 Okay, that's fair. We'll call him first. 2123 01:32:34,121 --> 01:32:35,856 And this is his brother, Jack, 2124 01:32:35,990 --> 01:32:38,092 who just got out of prostate surgery two days ago. 2125 01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:40,594 So if he's all hopped up, 2126 01:32:40,728 --> 01:32:42,063 he might be telling us the truth. 2127 01:32:42,196 --> 01:32:45,900 - Hello? - Hey, is Jack available? 2128 01:32:46,033 --> 01:32:47,768 Uh, no he's not, who's this? 2129 01:32:47,902 --> 01:32:49,270 Uh, my name is Mike Rocha 2130 01:32:49,403 --> 01:32:51,172 we're doing some research 2131 01:32:51,305 --> 01:32:55,209 on the D.B. Cooper hijacking back in 1971. 2132 01:32:55,342 --> 01:32:57,044 - Are you familiar with that? - Uh-huh. 2133 01:32:57,178 --> 01:32:59,914 - We're talking to Rod and... - Oh. 2134 01:33:00,047 --> 01:33:02,283 ...Rod claims to be D.B. Cooper. 2135 01:33:02,416 --> 01:33:04,785 Oh, no he's not. 2136 01:33:04,919 --> 01:33:06,654 Do you have any-- I mean-- is he-- 2137 01:33:06,787 --> 01:33:10,758 has he had this manifestation in his mind for a while? 2138 01:33:10,891 --> 01:33:12,793 Yeah, yeah, for a long time. 2139 01:33:12,927 --> 01:33:16,931 Right. Do you-- I mean, do you guys have facts about, 2140 01:33:17,064 --> 01:33:20,101 the-- where he was the day that it happened or anything? 2141 01:33:20,234 --> 01:33:23,003 No, but he's definitely not. 2142 01:33:23,137 --> 01:33:24,738 Uh, yeah, I mean, 2143 01:33:24,872 --> 01:33:26,273 we've spent the last couple days with him, 2144 01:33:26,407 --> 01:33:28,843 trying to, you know, corroborate his story. 2145 01:33:28,976 --> 01:33:32,379 What is the family's view on this? 2146 01:33:32,514 --> 01:33:35,382 The family's view is that he's nuts. 2147 01:33:35,517 --> 01:33:38,619 I mean-- what-- has he always been crazy 2148 01:33:38,752 --> 01:33:40,988 - or, um-- - Uh, no. 2149 01:33:41,122 --> 01:33:44,258 He was in a car wreck when he was about 18... 2150 01:33:44,391 --> 01:33:45,926 -Right. -...years old. 2151 01:33:46,060 --> 01:33:47,661 And, uh, he... 2152 01:33:49,697 --> 01:33:52,967 uh, he went forward in the backseat 2153 01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:54,835 and then when he went backwards 2154 01:33:54,969 --> 01:33:56,837 he hit his head real bad. 2155 01:33:58,507 --> 01:33:59,974 We got a hold of his sister-in-law. 2156 01:34:00,341 --> 01:34:03,010 And she described an accident that Rodney was in 2157 01:34:03,144 --> 01:34:04,912 and he sustained a brain injury. 2158 01:34:05,614 --> 01:34:07,915 Which really sheds some light 2159 01:34:08,048 --> 01:34:10,117 on our view of him. 2160 01:34:11,785 --> 01:34:14,755 Now it's possible he is a little bit delusional. 2161 01:34:14,889 --> 01:34:16,257 You're so detailed 2162 01:34:16,390 --> 01:34:18,425 with everything and that's why I'm just-- 2163 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:20,060 I'm so interested 2164 01:34:20,194 --> 01:34:21,428 as why some of your family members 2165 01:34:21,563 --> 01:34:23,197 might not believe that you are 2166 01:34:23,330 --> 01:34:24,899 or some people might not believe that you are. 2167 01:34:25,032 --> 01:34:26,767 Well, my brother's wife, Barbara Bonnifield, 2168 01:34:26,901 --> 01:34:28,169 wants to protect their name. 2169 01:34:28,836 --> 01:34:31,205 They're Christians, they have a Christian-- 2170 01:34:31,338 --> 01:34:32,940 they go to church, 2171 01:34:33,073 --> 01:34:34,808 my mom and dad went to church there and stuff. 2172 01:34:34,942 --> 01:34:37,211 She's known all along that I'm D.B. Cooper. 2173 01:34:37,612 --> 01:34:39,313 I had called her 2174 01:34:39,446 --> 01:34:41,849 about three months before this episode happened. 2175 01:34:42,249 --> 01:34:43,784 I said, "I'm goin' down there 2176 01:34:43,918 --> 01:34:45,019 and digging my money up by the river." 2177 01:34:46,153 --> 01:34:47,688 Before I even met you guys. 2178 01:34:47,821 --> 01:34:49,757 And-- and that's-- that's what I told her. 2179 01:34:50,424 --> 01:34:53,694 She never answered me, she just is kinda like, 2180 01:34:53,827 --> 01:34:55,296 "Okay, protect the family. 2181 01:34:55,429 --> 01:34:57,198 Protect the family name, you know." 2182 01:34:57,331 --> 01:34:58,999 She said that, uh, 2183 01:34:59,133 --> 01:35:00,701 the reason why you're claiming to be all this 2184 01:35:00,834 --> 01:35:01,969 is because of your car wreck. 2185 01:35:02,102 --> 01:35:03,404 No, that's not true. 2186 01:35:03,538 --> 01:35:06,473 Car wreck happened in 9th grade, 2187 01:35:06,608 --> 01:35:09,176 going from 9th grade on Military Road, 2188 01:35:09,310 --> 01:35:11,345 we got hit sideways with a woman that was driving, 2189 01:35:11,478 --> 01:35:13,247 her mother was there. 2190 01:35:13,380 --> 01:35:16,417 And his name was Johnson. Uh, her name was Johnson. 2191 01:35:16,551 --> 01:35:18,485 She ran a stop sign. 2192 01:35:28,862 --> 01:35:31,198 My fault. The accident was my fault. 2193 01:35:31,332 --> 01:35:33,467 It was an accident. Accidents are accidents. 2194 01:35:33,602 --> 01:35:35,436 I got hit in my head and, uh, 2195 01:35:35,570 --> 01:35:37,438 I was dizzy for, like, a couple years after that 2196 01:35:37,572 --> 01:35:39,340 taking Dilaudid pills. 2197 01:35:39,473 --> 01:35:41,275 Pandora's box. 2198 01:35:41,408 --> 01:35:43,277 You open that box, it'll happen all over again. 2199 01:35:43,410 --> 01:35:44,979 Please calm down! Okay? 2200 01:35:45,112 --> 01:35:47,147 I know your gal left you, I'm so sorry. 2201 01:35:47,281 --> 01:35:50,150 What the fuck, Rodney! I told you no more bullshit! 2202 01:35:50,284 --> 01:35:51,418 You're gone! 2203 01:35:51,553 --> 01:35:53,120 138 kidnapping cases, 2204 01:35:53,254 --> 01:35:54,955 you'll never get out of prison. 2205 01:35:55,089 --> 01:35:56,957 You wouldn't even see the light of day. 2206 01:35:57,091 --> 01:35:58,926 I'd sit your ass down if I were you 2207 01:35:59,059 --> 01:36:00,427 and fix that crooked-ass toupee while you're at it. 2208 01:36:00,562 --> 01:36:02,162 It was at that point, we believe, 2209 01:36:02,296 --> 01:36:05,966 that with the money strapped to his chest, 2210 01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:08,202 he then jumped from the aircraft. 2211 01:36:08,335 --> 01:36:10,804 Appreciate it! See you down the road, boss! 2212 01:36:10,938 --> 01:36:12,106 Come away with me, Rodney. 2213 01:36:15,342 --> 01:36:17,278 I love you, Rodney Bonnifield. 2214 01:36:22,416 --> 01:36:25,252 That's it. 48 years of runnin'. 2215 01:36:25,654 --> 01:36:29,790 Now the FBI will look for me and they will look hard. 2216 01:36:31,225 --> 01:36:32,493 And I ain't goin' easy. 2217 01:36:33,394 --> 01:36:35,195 Run D.B., run. 2218 01:36:36,564 --> 01:36:38,866 Run D.B., run. 2219 01:36:40,467 --> 01:36:42,069 Run D.B., run. 2220 01:36:45,507 --> 01:36:47,241 Run D.B., run. 2221 01:36:49,043 --> 01:36:50,911 Run D.B., run. 2222 01:36:57,951 --> 01:37:03,057 ♪ Runnin' down the road got the wind in my hair ♪ 2223 01:37:03,190 --> 01:37:06,927 ♪ Got enough fuel for Reno, babe I'll meet you there ♪ 2224 01:37:09,463 --> 01:37:14,868 ♪ Tell you most people wouldn't get this high ♪ 2225 01:37:15,002 --> 01:37:16,403 ♪ And I'm tailin' down the highway ♪ 2226 01:37:16,538 --> 01:37:18,505 ♪ Got this gleam in my eye ♪ 2227 01:37:20,675 --> 01:37:23,010 ♪ Run, run, run, run, run, run ♪ 2228 01:37:23,143 --> 01:37:26,280 ♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪ 2229 01:37:26,413 --> 01:37:28,583 ♪ Run, run, run, run, run, run ♪ 2230 01:37:28,717 --> 01:37:32,554 ♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪ 2231 01:37:32,687 --> 01:37:38,092 ♪ Run, oh keep runnin' won't ever get caught ♪ 2232 01:37:38,225 --> 01:37:41,830 ♪ I'm gonna keep runnin' 'til the wheels come off ♪ 2233 01:37:44,198 --> 01:37:49,503 ♪ I'm heading straight west, baby, into the sun ♪ 2234 01:37:49,637 --> 01:37:55,476 ♪ I'm on the freeway inside of a car ♪ 2235 01:37:55,610 --> 01:37:57,911 ♪ Run, run, run, run, run, run ♪ 2236 01:37:58,045 --> 01:37:59,647 ♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪ 2237 01:38:01,448 --> 01:38:03,450 ♪ Run, run, run, run, run, run ♪ 2238 01:38:03,585 --> 01:38:07,087 ♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪ 2239 01:38:07,221 --> 01:38:08,922 ♪ Well my mama she done told me ♪ 2240 01:38:09,056 --> 01:38:12,960 ♪ I was born to lose ♪ 2241 01:38:13,093 --> 01:38:15,028 ♪ All throughout my lonely life ♪ 2242 01:38:15,162 --> 01:38:17,364 ♪ Damn, my woman singing the lonely blues ♪ 2243 01:38:17,498 --> 01:38:19,567 ♪ Run, run, run, run, run, run ♪ 2244 01:38:19,701 --> 01:38:21,536 ♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪ 2245 01:38:23,303 --> 01:38:25,406 ♪ Run, run, run, run, run, run ♪ 2246 01:38:25,540 --> 01:38:29,577 ♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪ 2247 01:38:33,180 --> 01:38:34,982 ♪ Whoo, keep running, boy ♪ 2248 01:38:36,417 --> 01:38:38,152 ♪ Got that look in your eye 2249 01:38:41,188 --> 01:38:43,658 ♪ Run, run, baby 2250 01:38:43,792 --> 01:38:45,993 ♪ Run, run, run ♪ 2251 01:38:47,060 --> 01:38:49,664 ♪ Run, run, run 2252 01:38:49,798 --> 01:38:52,567 ♪ Run, run, run ♪ 2253 01:38:52,700 --> 01:38:54,602 ♪ Run, run, run ♪ 2254 01:38:55,670 --> 01:38:58,138 ♪ Run, run, run 2255 01:38:58,272 --> 01:39:00,340 ♪ Run, run, run, run, run, run ♪ 2256 01:39:00,474 --> 01:39:02,577 ♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪ 2257 01:39:04,378 --> 01:39:10,150 ♪ I've got a plan baby, make things right ♪ 2258 01:39:10,284 --> 01:39:13,721 ♪ Finding out who grabbed my case of dynamite ♪ 2259 01:39:16,123 --> 01:39:20,160 ♪ Criss-crossing baby, jumping out of my seat ♪ 2260 01:39:21,796 --> 01:39:24,965 ♪ Skyjacking baby going down for the win ♪ 2261 01:39:27,267 --> 01:39:29,436 ♪ Run, run, run, run, run, run ♪ 2262 01:39:29,571 --> 01:39:33,073 ♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪ 2263 01:39:33,207 --> 01:39:35,242 ♪ Run, run, run, run, run, run ♪ 2264 01:39:35,375 --> 01:39:38,646 ♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪ 2265 01:39:38,780 --> 01:39:40,347 ♪ Well my mama she done told me ♪ 2266 01:39:40,481 --> 01:39:43,116 ♪ I was born to lose ♪ 2267 01:39:45,152 --> 01:39:46,754 ♪ All throughout my life 2268 01:39:46,888 --> 01:39:49,056 ♪ Damn, my woman singing the lonely blues ♪ 2269 01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:51,225 ♪ Run, run run, run, run, run ♪ 2270 01:39:51,358 --> 01:39:54,729 ♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪ 2271 01:39:54,863 --> 01:39:57,097 ♪ Run, run run, run, run, run ♪ 2272 01:39:57,231 --> 01:40:01,001 ♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪ 2273 01:40:01,134 --> 01:40:06,406 ♪ Run, run, run D.B., D.B. run ♪ 2274 01:40:06,541 --> 01:40:09,243 ♪ Run, run, run, run, run, run ♪ 2275 01:40:09,376 --> 01:40:14,414 ♪ D.B., D.B. run ♪