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[pilot] Metro tower,
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this is Northwest Orient
flight 305
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we have a situation.
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[Rodney] Tina,
I'm gonna have to have you
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sit up here now.
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I don't wanna
see you get hurt.
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I don't wanna see
anybody get hurt.
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[sharply exhales]
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[exhales]
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-[tense music playing]
-[door opening]
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[co-pilot] Captain,
the aft door is open.
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Oh, my God.
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[breathing heavily]
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♪
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[quiet suspenseful
music playing]
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[Rodney] My real name
is Rodney Lewis Bonnifield.
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Born July 26, 1952.
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I am D. B. Cooper.
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♪ All these sparkling ♪
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♪ Golden dollar days ♪
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♪ Will wash our normal
problems down the drain ♪
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♪ I can offer you
a better today ♪
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♪ I can give to you
a court with no judge ♪
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♪ Look around you ♪
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♪ At everything
you don't has ♪
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♪ Is all you really,
really need love? ♪
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♪ I can offer you
a better right now ♪
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♪ Lift away all of the weight
that won't budge ♪
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♪ Picture your view ♪
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♪ From your house
on the moon, baby ♪
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♪ Saturn's got rings ♪
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♪ And you
should be wearing them ♪
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♪ Singing all these sparkly
golden dollar days ♪
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♪ Will wash our normal
problems down the drain ♪
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♪ Right down the drain ♪
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[Rodney] Had a knife
on the drain board,
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a big Bowie knife,
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come around and they get me
right in the neck.
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And so I just reached up
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had a sheathing knife
about this big
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because it. .
it was for hunting, skinning.
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I just reached up
and popped him one.
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So, he dropped the knife
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right in the shoulder,
right there.
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-And so, he dropped the knife.
-[Clifford] Help me.
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[phone line beeps]
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[operator] 911,
what is your emergency?
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[Clifford groans]
It's Clifford Rich.
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Lady, goddamn it!
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I've been stabbed!
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Rodney fuckin' Bonnifield.
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[guitar music playing]
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[Rodney] No, I believe in God.
God and country, I do.
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[interviewer]
Nothin' wrong with that.
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[Rodney] No,
nothing wrong with that.
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Least I know
where I'm going.
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A lot of people
don't know where they're goin'
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Think there's a big force.
Well, guess what?
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I'd rather know where I'm goin'
than not know where I'm goin'
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[Carlos] So,
I met Rod December of 2016.
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Rodney had been arrested on
assault one,
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uh, essentially a knife fight
and, uh, bailed him out.
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[Mike] But people come
to bail companies
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because
they're in a time of crisis.
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So,
we facilitate individuals
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who are arrested
and held.
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We negotiate
with their friends and family
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and contractually bind them
to attend their court hearings
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and if they fail to appear,
then it's our job to go out
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and find them
and bring them back.
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[man] Sorry, I'm not trying
to be an asshole.
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-No, no.
-Hey, we're not either.
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-[man] I'm loaded.
-So are we.
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[Mike] My name's Mike Rocha.
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I'm a bondsman
for All City Bail Bonds.
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I started doing
recovery work
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when I turned
21-years-old.
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So, a long time,
over 35 years.
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The difference between us
and Dog the Bounty Hunter
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is that we are authorized
and able to carry firearms.
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We typically like
to work under the radar.
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We will go out normally
in the cover of dark,
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arrest the people
that we need to. .
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Full-auto.
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and do it
in a real quiet manner.
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[gunfire]
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My brother, Carlos,
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is in the bail industry
as well.
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I got introduced
to the business
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with my brother 35 years ago
doing some recovery.
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[gunshots]
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I absolutely love it,
uh, everyday is interesting.
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Interesting characters,
interesting scenarios,
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stuff that you're, just,
not got gonna find
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at a regular job for sure.
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And I kissed the ground
when he came to help me,
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that was it, I says,
"That guy there,
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he's a man to come and get me
out of this mess. "
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And, so, I was out
for two and a half years.
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I don't have any problem
with anybody else.
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He wasn't fully funded on. .
on the bond,
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so people put up some money,
but he had to come back in
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time after time after time
and make his payments
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and he never missed
a payment.
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Uh, and, again,
he could've taken off
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and gone up into the hills
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and he'd be a hard guy
to find.
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I says,
"I'm not runnin' anywhere,
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I'm not guilty
of this crime. "
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[Carlos]
He comes into the office
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and first he gives me
his paperwork
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stating
that he had taken a plea deal
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on the knife fight scenario.
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I returned his collateral,
which was,
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uh, I think
four different vehicles.
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[Rodney]
He gave me back my titles.
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He says you. .
you made it,
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you did the right thing,
you didn't run.
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And he goes, "Uh, I got
something else to run by you. "
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I says, uh,
"I'm D. B. Cooper.
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"I been wanted
for a long time. "
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[news anchor]
When he got on a plane
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in Portland, Oregon
last night,
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he was just another passenger
who gave his name
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as D. A. Cooper.
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But today, after hijacking
a Northwest Airlines jet,
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then making a getaway
by parachute,
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the description
on one wire service:
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master criminal.
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I decided to come on out
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and tell the truth
about everything.
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So the people that have a right
to know who I am.
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He seemed rather nice,
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other than he wanted
certain things to be done.
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We were honoring his requests
and, therefore,
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we made no attempt
to impede his mission.
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[narrator]
In the early '70s, a hijacker
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calling himself D. B. Cooper
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jumped from an airliner
in flight
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carrying 200,000 bucks
in ransom cash
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and disappeared in the woods
of the Pacific Northwest.
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His fate remained unknown,
his true identity a mystery.
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That is,
perhaps, until now.
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The people got a right to know
who I am and what I am.
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And, uh. .
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it was the time
of the Vietnam War. .
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it was a time. .
it was a time of strife.
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[rock music playing]
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Everything was going down,
Martin Luther King got killed,
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[indistinct] died,
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Everything was going downhill.
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All right, everyone throw in,
don't be cheap.
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[man 1]
All right, raising two.
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You guys, uh,
been following those protests
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-in D. C. ?
-[man 2] Yeah, oh yeah.
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Hey, you guys hear about that?
Boys in blue?
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They couldn't hold it down,
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I mean, they had to send in
the fucking US Military.
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Landing
every three minutes,
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I mean, can you fucking believe
this shit?
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[man 3]
That's government, man!
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-Right? Come on!
-[man 2] Are you kidding me?
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America
is the land of opportunity
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and you can bet
your sweet ass
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that if these guys
are taking from the pot,
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then so am I!
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[man 1] Cheers to that shit,
fuckin'-A man.
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[young Rodney]
To the money, boys!
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[Rodney] I don't know,
I liked the easy money.
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I had money all the time.
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The more money I made,
the happier I was.
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I had some nice hotrods
in those days,
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I mean,
I had cars worth $10,000
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and I enjoyed myself.
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And cocaine was coming in
from Panama.
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Goddamn,
that shit is good, Rodney!
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[young Rodney]
You like that?
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I get that from Panama.
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[Rodney] Had plenty of cocaine
if we wanted, but it was. .
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it was like, uh,
going out, dancing,
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having fun with all the women
and enjoying yourselves.
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I can't wait
to be in your arms again, babe.
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[woman on phone]
Uh, I can't wait either.
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[Rodney]
I had a way to talk to 'em.
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I had a way
to communicate with women.
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You have to have communication
with women
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otherwise
you ain't gonna get 'em.
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No communicate?
No woman.
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And of course,
you know about what's her name
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that did the song.
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Well, hi, I'm Rita Coolidge
and I'm a singer,
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I sing country music,
and, well,
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I just put out a record
Anytime, Anywhere.
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And sometimes I act on. .
on screen as well.
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[Rodney] Met her in Lake Tahoe,
she was singin' at a bar
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and then we had an affair
for a couple days.
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Well,
Rodney had this lone wolf
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kinda mystery about him.
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Like he had a secret
or somethin'
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You know, I was thinkin' .
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"You should come
to Denver with me. "
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[interviewer] So, you said
she wrote a song for you?
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[Rodney] Yeah, Run. .
"Run, D. B. , Run"
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[interviewer] Can you sing
a little bit of it?
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[Rodney] Uh, well,
I was in the, uh,
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Hard Rock Café
in Lake Tahoe when the. .
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the song came out and it says,
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♪ Run D. B. run
keep on running D. B. ♪
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[Carlos] I mean,
he's not a flight risk
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obviously.
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I mean, he's. .
he's not going anywhere.
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Other than the fact that he. .
I mean, he reoffended, uh. .
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[Mike] Doing what we do,
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you're exposed to a lot of
different people.
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And a lot of people
lie to you.
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So, one of the things
that we pride ourself on
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is being able to
cipher through people who lie
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versus people who don't.
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And when Carlos told me
this story, he was. . he was. .
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I could feel the excitement
within him
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and by the time dinner
was halfway through,
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my mouth was wide open
and I couldn't,
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you know,
believe the detailed events
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that were being described.
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He's got
lots of crazy stories, um,
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but as I tried
to vet them out,
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they. . they all seem like
they're. . they're legit.
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Him and Don have, uh, some,
uh, mining claims. .
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up in the mountains
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and, uh, I've been able
to validate that.
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We're gold miners too,
you know.
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-[laughs]
-[cameraman] Oh, really?
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Oh, yeah, we own a gold mine
in the mountains there.
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Bazooka Gold Mining Company,
LLC.
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[Carlos] Uh, I did my research,
he owned the claims,
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he brought in the ore,
he brought in the, uh,
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the geological assessment.
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Here's our gold strike,
here's the vein.
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This is how massive it is.
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This is my great grandfather,
Sam Bonnifield.
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This is Remington
that made the rifles.
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And there's 2,600 pounds
of gold
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and this is going
to Seattle.
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And they surveyed all of Alaska
and I've got the map.
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I have a Bonnifield Region
up there.
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260 miles of that country
is ours.
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[Carlos] They've been rich,
they've been broke,
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they've been rich again,
they've been broke,
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they've had
lots of adventures.
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I mean I've been to the. .
I've been to the farm.
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[Mike]
He, for the last 35ish years
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has lived on a dairy farm.
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Incognito,
uh, with a friend of his.
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[Rodney] We're, uh,
in Washington State
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near the Skagit River.
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The place is, uh,
peace and harmony,
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good-willed men,
a good place to live.
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We always come
ready to go here.
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[barking]
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[Rodney] Because you don't get
a second chance out here.
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380.
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Just like that.
Live with Don Lee at the farm.
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Hell of a guy.
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[Don] My great grandfather
actually homesteaded this farm.
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Started milking cows
as a sophomore in high school.
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We got this farm kinda
rockin' and rollin' for a while
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and then all these people
that are poor come here
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and mess things up.
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There's crazy characters
that come and go.
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It is absolutely,
100% certain
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that he was in a knife fight
and stabbed a guy.
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I do not, uh, have any problems
with anybody
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that don't wanna
give me a problem.
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They give me a problem,
I give 'em a problem back.
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Knives or guns,
it don't matter.
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[Clifford] Oh! Oh, fuck!
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[groaning]
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This Clifford Rich
was staying by my place there.
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He was hanging around
Don Lee's house.
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And I asked Cliff
if he wanted to help me
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paint my house.
287
00:12:00,765 --> 00:12:02,633
So, Rod said "He's a painter,
he's a good painter. "
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He was an evil sucker,
you know?
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He was out raping
kids and women,
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I says, "I don't want nothing
to do with you no more. "
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I found out about it,
I says,
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"I don't want nothing
to do with you anymore. "
293
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So, I told Don,
"Get him out of the house. "
294
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There are several stories
about what happened
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between Rodney
and Clifford, but apparently
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Clifford went after Rodney
with a machete.
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It was one just like this
except it's all black.
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[Rodney]
Well, I took him out anyway.
299
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[Carlos]
From the criminal perspective,
300
00:12:25,857 --> 00:12:27,692
you know, it's legit.
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He spoke of being a teamster,
which, at one time,
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he was a teamster,
I know that for a fact,
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00:12:31,294 --> 00:12:32,663
but he said
he was very connected
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with the mob,
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00:12:34,231 --> 00:12:35,532
did a lot of
strong-arm stuff,
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00:12:35,565 --> 00:12:36,701
you know,
on behalf of the union.
307
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[Rodney]
I was working the docks
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with the teamsters.
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00:12:44,174 --> 00:12:46,176
And then Jimmy Hoffa
got murdered
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and then they called me up
said we need a favor.
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We'll meet you
at Magnolia Bluff.
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We met out, we need to strike
this waterfront, it's 1972.
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They picked me. .
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to help 'em do it.
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And this is, uh,
John Fitzsimmons.
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-[young Rodney] Fitzsimmons?
-How you doin'?
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00:13:01,358 --> 00:13:02,392
[young Rodney] All right.
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00:13:03,627 --> 00:13:06,798
All right,
every Thursday at 3:00 p. m. ,
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00:13:06,831 --> 00:13:10,267
a 48-foot sea vessel
by the name of Lucy docks here.
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00:13:11,068 --> 00:13:13,871
You will process
all drop offs from Lucy
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under the name
John Alexander.
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00:13:16,941 --> 00:13:19,744
Once complete,
you will phone me directly.
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-Is that clear?
-Crystal.
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00:13:23,981 --> 00:13:25,615
Your assistance
will not be forgotten.
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00:13:29,452 --> 00:13:30,822
I suppose
we'll be in touch then.
327
00:13:31,621 --> 00:13:32,957
That is a fact.
328
00:13:34,391 --> 00:13:35,726
[interviewer] So,
what do you have to say
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00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,627
to the people that are. .
330
00:13:37,661 --> 00:13:40,832
that. . that might think
that you aren't D. B. Cooper.
331
00:13:41,198 --> 00:13:43,466
Well, I could care less,
I did the job.
332
00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:45,235
There've been a lot of people
over the years
333
00:13:45,268 --> 00:13:46,938
who've claimed
to be D. B. Cooper.
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00:13:46,971 --> 00:13:50,240
Probably the most recognizable
would be Mr. Rackshaw,
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00:13:50,273 --> 00:13:52,309
but he can't fill in the blanks
like Rodney.
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00:13:52,342 --> 00:13:53,677
In fact,
none of the people
337
00:13:53,710 --> 00:13:55,612
who've claimed to be
D. B. Cooper
338
00:13:55,645 --> 00:13:57,681
can fill in the slots
like Rodney can.
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00:13:57,714 --> 00:14:00,785
There's. . there's, just,
too much minutia there
340
00:14:00,818 --> 00:14:02,719
for this to be in his head
and not be real.
341
00:14:04,588 --> 00:14:06,590
[Rodney] I came right down
the Columbia River
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00:14:06,623 --> 00:14:08,425
at Tena Bar
343
00:14:08,458 --> 00:14:10,527
and there's a cove in there
and I looked at the cove
344
00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:12,897
when I was comin' down,
I landed right in the sands.
345
00:14:12,930 --> 00:14:15,632
I left $5,880 on the beach
346
00:14:15,665 --> 00:14:17,567
and I took $300 more out
347
00:14:17,601 --> 00:14:19,971
and that leaves
$193,000 left
348
00:14:20,004 --> 00:14:21,738
somewhat, in dollars.
349
00:14:21,772 --> 00:14:23,540
It's on that beach right now.
350
00:14:23,573 --> 00:14:25,709
So, if I find the rock,
we're gonna dig it up
351
00:14:25,742 --> 00:14:27,544
and we'll get that money.
352
00:14:27,577 --> 00:14:29,046
And the only reason
I thought it had credibility
353
00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,647
enough to at least pursue
a little bit,
354
00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,549
do some research
and then bring Mike in
355
00:14:32,582 --> 00:14:34,751
was the fact that he was gonna
bring the money to me.
356
00:14:34,785 --> 00:14:37,320
He was gonna set the money
on the desk
357
00:14:37,354 --> 00:14:39,756
and then from there
he wanted me to do something
358
00:14:39,790 --> 00:14:41,424
with the cash.
359
00:14:41,458 --> 00:14:42,759
My plan is probably
to go underground,
360
00:14:42,793 --> 00:14:44,028
sell some of the money,
you know?
361
00:14:44,061 --> 00:14:45,997
But, that's business.
362
00:14:46,030 --> 00:14:48,398
Why not? It's my money.
I took it.
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00:14:48,431 --> 00:14:50,400
And, uh, if I get somebody
to help me sell it,
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00:14:50,433 --> 00:14:51,836
then fine, dandy,
I get it sold.
365
00:14:52,203 --> 00:14:53,703
[Carlos] So,
Rod had an idea
366
00:14:53,737 --> 00:14:55,538
of what the value
of the money was
367
00:14:55,572 --> 00:14:57,474
and it was an inflated amount
based off the fact
368
00:14:57,507 --> 00:15:00,343
that a kid had been camping
down on the river,
369
00:15:00,377 --> 00:15:01,979
actually found some money,
370
00:15:02,013 --> 00:15:05,482
and then selling the money
at a much higher value
371
00:15:05,515 --> 00:15:06,884
than what the actual face is.
372
00:15:07,484 --> 00:15:10,720
[interviewer] So, did you bury
the $5,800 immediately?
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00:15:10,754 --> 00:15:12,322
Yes.
374
00:15:12,355 --> 00:15:13,958
The reason why,
I always leave a tip.
375
00:15:14,658 --> 00:15:16,593
So that they thought
I'd gone in the river.
376
00:15:16,626 --> 00:15:19,562
I put the money there,
in all 20s,
377
00:15:19,596 --> 00:15:21,065
I put 'em in a stack.
378
00:15:21,098 --> 00:15:22,900
[interviewer]
Why that amount of money?
379
00:15:22,934 --> 00:15:24,601
[Rodney] I don't know,
I just reached in the bag
380
00:15:24,634 --> 00:15:26,070
and grabbed whatever I had,
and counted it,
381
00:15:26,103 --> 00:15:28,873
it was $5,880 and I went,
"Okay, that's. .
382
00:15:28,906 --> 00:15:30,640
somebody will find this,
some fisherman
383
00:15:30,674 --> 00:15:32,442
or some hiker or. .
384
00:15:32,475 --> 00:15:34,078
well, they didn't find it
for nine more years.
385
00:15:34,111 --> 00:15:35,812
[news anchor]
Then the Dwayne Ingrum family
386
00:15:35,846 --> 00:15:37,347
entered the picture
last February.
387
00:15:37,380 --> 00:15:39,382
I was gonna build a fire
388
00:15:39,416 --> 00:15:40,851
and I had some wood
in my arm
389
00:15:40,885 --> 00:15:42,819
and I got ready
to set it down
390
00:15:42,853 --> 00:15:44,587
and my son ran up and said,
"Wait a minute, Daddy. "
391
00:15:44,621 --> 00:15:47,091
So, he raked a place
out in the sand
392
00:15:47,124 --> 00:15:49,726
and there it was, it kinda
tumbled up on the top.
393
00:15:49,759 --> 00:15:51,795
[news anchor]
What his young son found
394
00:15:51,828 --> 00:15:53,463
was part of Cooper's loot.
395
00:15:53,496 --> 00:15:55,432
Badly decomposed,
in bundles,
396
00:15:55,465 --> 00:15:57,902
still in the same order
when packed nine years ago.
397
00:15:57,935 --> 00:16:00,370
[Mike] The Columbia River
is a massive river.
398
00:16:00,403 --> 00:16:02,873
And it's an ever-changing
riverbank.
399
00:16:02,907 --> 00:16:05,742
This is where large
shipping vessels come through
400
00:16:05,775 --> 00:16:08,478
and bring product
to and from other countries
401
00:16:08,511 --> 00:16:09,880
and distribute it
around the world.
402
00:16:09,914 --> 00:16:12,016
So, they have to
continually dredge it
403
00:16:12,049 --> 00:16:14,018
and make sure that it's clear
for the shipping lanes.
404
00:16:14,051 --> 00:16:16,988
[man] Dredging is done
in a lot of major waterways
405
00:16:17,021 --> 00:16:18,889
and that's to keep
the waterway open
406
00:16:18,923 --> 00:16:20,557
for commerce
407
00:16:20,590 --> 00:16:22,559
because it's not that deep
408
00:16:22,592 --> 00:16:24,095
and they have to dig out
that waterway year after year.
409
00:16:24,128 --> 00:16:27,430
Rodney described his burying
of the $5,800
410
00:16:27,464 --> 00:16:30,533
to be in a very shallow area
because he did it very hastily
411
00:16:30,567 --> 00:16:33,037
and scientists
in 2020 determined
412
00:16:33,070 --> 00:16:35,805
that there was algae
found on the money
413
00:16:35,839 --> 00:16:38,641
that could've only been there
during a spring bloom.
414
00:16:39,010 --> 00:16:40,777
So, it's. .
it's possible that the money,
415
00:16:40,810 --> 00:16:44,081
having been buried
in a shallow area,
416
00:16:44,115 --> 00:16:47,684
later on, after a dredging,
was exposed to the water,
417
00:16:47,717 --> 00:16:51,721
thus exposing it to the algae
that only blooms in the spring.
418
00:16:51,755 --> 00:16:53,090
[man] That's key,
419
00:16:53,124 --> 00:16:55,026
because it means
the ransom money
420
00:16:55,059 --> 00:16:56,760
entered the water
months after Cooper jumped.
421
00:16:56,793 --> 00:16:58,661
For instance,
Kay says it scuttles
422
00:16:58,695 --> 00:17:01,165
the FBI's original theory
in the 1980s
423
00:17:01,198 --> 00:17:03,100
that the ransom money
flowed from rivers
424
00:17:03,134 --> 00:17:05,835
in the suspected drop zone
near Lake Merwin
425
00:17:05,869 --> 00:17:07,604
down through
the Washougal River
426
00:17:07,637 --> 00:17:09,506
to the Columbia.
427
00:17:09,539 --> 00:17:11,441
The so-called
"Washougal Wash Down Theory. "
428
00:17:11,474 --> 00:17:13,543
The money was not floating
in the water for a year,
429
00:17:13,576 --> 00:17:15,046
otherwise
we would've seen diatoms
430
00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:16,713
from the full range
of the year.
431
00:17:16,746 --> 00:17:18,715
We only saw them
from the spring. .
432
00:17:18,748 --> 00:17:20,217
springtime bloom.
433
00:17:20,251 --> 00:17:22,719
So this puts
a very narrow range
434
00:17:22,752 --> 00:17:24,554
on when the money got wet
435
00:17:24,587 --> 00:17:26,489
and was subsequently
buried on Tena Bar.
436
00:17:26,523 --> 00:17:27,924
Rodney knew
all kinds of specifics
437
00:17:27,958 --> 00:17:29,927
about. .
about the hijacking.
438
00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,628
[interviewer]
What were you wearing that day?
439
00:17:31,661 --> 00:17:34,731
I wore a sports jacket,
penny loafers,
440
00:17:34,764 --> 00:17:37,168
black tie,
which belonged to my dad.
441
00:17:37,201 --> 00:17:38,902
The one piece
of physical evidence
442
00:17:38,935 --> 00:17:41,704
that really yielded
something substantial
443
00:17:41,738 --> 00:17:44,808
was the fact that the tie
was analyzed at the time
444
00:17:44,841 --> 00:17:46,676
and throughout the years
continued to be analyzed
445
00:17:46,709 --> 00:17:48,179
as technology got better
446
00:17:48,212 --> 00:17:50,014
and titanium
was one of the major alloys
447
00:17:50,047 --> 00:17:51,182
found on it.
448
00:17:51,948 --> 00:17:54,617
[newsman] The periodical table
of clues, say scientists,
449
00:17:54,651 --> 00:17:58,089
suggests Cooper had access
to a manufacturing company
450
00:17:58,122 --> 00:18:01,158
that made airplanes,
like the one he jumped from.
451
00:18:01,192 --> 00:18:04,494
Perhaps a company
with a connection to Boeing.
452
00:18:04,527 --> 00:18:07,530
Rodney did identify the fact
that that tie was his father's
453
00:18:07,564 --> 00:18:08,698
and that he did work
at Boeing.
454
00:18:08,731 --> 00:18:10,500
Uh, he had the. .
455
00:18:10,533 --> 00:18:12,869
the times
down to specifics.
456
00:18:12,902 --> 00:18:15,206
Exact time frame, uh,
457
00:18:15,239 --> 00:18:17,574
that lines up with. .
with what, um,
458
00:18:17,607 --> 00:18:18,908
the authorities have.
459
00:18:18,942 --> 00:18:20,810
[Rodney]
Left Portland about 4:30,
460
00:18:20,844 --> 00:18:22,812
it was getting kinda dark,
it was during the winter.
461
00:18:22,846 --> 00:18:24,981
And then we got up
in the air and it was raining.
462
00:18:25,015 --> 00:18:27,017
They seated me in 18E
in the back
463
00:18:27,051 --> 00:18:28,852
near the stewardess.
464
00:18:28,885 --> 00:18:30,753
He knew the type of cigarettes
that were smoked.
465
00:18:30,787 --> 00:18:32,622
[interviewer]
Did they allow you to smoke
466
00:18:32,655 --> 00:18:34,624
-back in the day on airplanes?
-[Rodney] Yes, they did.
467
00:18:34,657 --> 00:18:36,659
I smoked about eight Raleigh's,
but I just barely smoked them.
468
00:18:36,693 --> 00:18:37,994
I was nervous.
469
00:18:39,696 --> 00:18:42,066
The. . the cocktails
that were ordered. .
470
00:18:42,099 --> 00:18:45,568
[Rodney] I ordered me a bourbon
and they brought me a double.
471
00:18:45,602 --> 00:18:46,970
[stewardess]
Can I get you anything?
472
00:18:47,003 --> 00:18:48,538
[young Rodney] Uh, yes.
473
00:18:48,571 --> 00:18:50,174
I'll take a bourbon
on the rocks
474
00:18:50,207 --> 00:18:53,610
and if you could
keep those coming
475
00:18:53,643 --> 00:18:55,578
until the plane lands
or I jump out of it,
476
00:18:55,612 --> 00:18:56,980
that'd be great.
477
00:18:57,013 --> 00:18:58,581
I'll make it a double,
how 'bout that?
478
00:18:58,615 --> 00:19:00,050
[Carlos]
And the more I looked into it,
479
00:19:00,084 --> 00:19:01,818
the more I thought,
"Well, he's either
480
00:19:01,851 --> 00:19:04,687
the most well-versed
D. B. Cooper fanatic
481
00:19:04,721 --> 00:19:07,291
that I've ever met
or even heard of,
482
00:19:07,324 --> 00:19:09,293
um, or he's D. B. Cooper. "
483
00:19:09,326 --> 00:19:12,129
It's hard to look somebody
in the eye
484
00:19:12,163 --> 00:19:15,999
who is so sincere about their
story
485
00:19:16,032 --> 00:19:18,868
and discount it or,
486
00:19:18,902 --> 00:19:20,603
um, call them a liar.
487
00:19:20,637 --> 00:19:22,038
The guy's a character,
488
00:19:22,072 --> 00:19:23,706
and he's just enough
of a character
489
00:19:23,740 --> 00:19:25,209
to have jumped out
of an airplane, uh,
490
00:19:25,242 --> 00:19:27,278
being suicidal
with nothing to lose and. .
491
00:19:27,311 --> 00:19:29,679
and, you know,
pulling it off.
492
00:19:29,712 --> 00:19:32,815
I'm inclined to believe
that. . that he's the guy.
493
00:19:33,384 --> 00:19:35,051
I wanna believe
he's the guy.
494
00:19:35,085 --> 00:19:36,786
[Mike] Reintroducing it
to myself, you know,
495
00:19:36,819 --> 00:19:38,088
I. . I start to realize
some of the details
496
00:19:38,122 --> 00:19:39,722
that were out there.
497
00:19:39,756 --> 00:19:42,193
And when he added
to those details,
498
00:19:42,226 --> 00:19:44,228
it. .
it was very convincing.
499
00:19:44,261 --> 00:19:46,996
He's either convinced himself
that it's real
500
00:19:47,030 --> 00:19:48,098
or it's real.
501
00:19:48,465 --> 00:19:50,667
So, with that, it's. .
502
00:19:50,700 --> 00:19:52,669
it's worth coming
to take a look.
503
00:19:53,736 --> 00:19:55,705
[Carlos] So,
after some deliberation,
504
00:19:55,738 --> 00:19:58,242
Mike and I decided that
maybe we should go down
505
00:19:58,275 --> 00:20:00,076
and dig up this money.
506
00:20:00,110 --> 00:20:01,878
[Mike] We're going
on an exploratory mission here
507
00:20:01,911 --> 00:20:05,615
to see if he is the guy
to confirm or not
508
00:20:05,648 --> 00:20:08,685
whether he's the person
who hijacked an airplane in,
509
00:20:08,718 --> 00:20:11,087
you know, in 1971,
a long time ago.
510
00:20:11,121 --> 00:20:12,755
So,
there's a lot of questions
511
00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:14,291
and there's a lot of mystery
around it.
512
00:20:14,325 --> 00:20:15,959
If I'm not mistaken,
it's the only unsolved
513
00:20:15,992 --> 00:20:17,827
hijacking
in the history of the world.
514
00:20:18,262 --> 00:20:21,831
Uh, and. . and that has to have
some interest.
515
00:20:21,864 --> 00:20:23,666
There's some
sex appeal to that.
516
00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:25,336
I mean, it's almost
like treasure hunting.
517
00:20:25,369 --> 00:20:27,036
I think everybody has
a little kid inside of them
518
00:20:27,070 --> 00:20:29,306
that loves the idea
of going and finding
519
00:20:29,340 --> 00:20:31,107
some buried treasure,
520
00:20:31,141 --> 00:20:32,742
and that's exactly
what we're gonna try to do.
521
00:20:32,775 --> 00:20:34,345
I mean, I think
he's getting to the. .
522
00:20:34,378 --> 00:20:36,280
to the end of life
and he wants people to know.
523
00:20:37,013 --> 00:20:39,015
And he might not have
the opportunity
524
00:20:39,048 --> 00:20:40,683
to tell this story 'cause
we're within two weeks
525
00:20:40,717 --> 00:20:43,320
of him potentially
going to prison, so
526
00:20:43,354 --> 00:20:45,655
the time is growing short.
527
00:20:45,688 --> 00:20:47,291
Uh, 9:30 tomorrow, I'm supposed
to have a court date,
528
00:20:47,324 --> 00:20:48,825
I'm not gonna show up.
529
00:20:48,858 --> 00:20:50,660
And on May 9th,
my mom's birthday,
530
00:20:50,693 --> 00:20:52,128
my brother's birthday,
531
00:20:52,162 --> 00:20:53,330
and my daughter's birthday
is May 9th.
532
00:20:53,796 --> 00:20:56,166
I'm not going to court
to get sentenced on May 9.
533
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,001
He's been going to court
534
00:20:58,034 --> 00:21:00,770
and the prosecutor
wants to put him away
535
00:21:00,803 --> 00:21:03,173
for something
that he should be given
536
00:21:03,207 --> 00:21:04,874
an award for.
537
00:21:04,907 --> 00:21:06,943
And the fact is,
he is a life-long criminal.
538
00:21:06,976 --> 00:21:09,112
I mean, he lives
and thinks like a criminal.
539
00:21:09,145 --> 00:21:10,647
that's the way he's wired.
540
00:21:11,047 --> 00:21:13,250
Uh, now he's calmed down,
he's trying to find peace
541
00:21:13,284 --> 00:21:15,252
in his. . his. .
his later years.
542
00:21:15,286 --> 00:21:16,919
And you ask about
his bad upbringing,
543
00:21:16,953 --> 00:21:18,289
he didn't have
a bad upbringing,
544
00:21:18,322 --> 00:21:19,922
he told you
he was born a criminal.
545
00:21:19,956 --> 00:21:21,292
[interviewer]
So when you were a kid
546
00:21:21,325 --> 00:21:22,892
you always wanted
to be a. . a. .
547
00:21:22,925 --> 00:21:24,361
-a gangster?
-Yeah. I was born one.
548
00:21:25,828 --> 00:21:28,831
My mom's given me birth
at Chief Seattle Statue
549
00:21:28,865 --> 00:21:30,833
rushed me
to the West Seattle Hospital,
550
00:21:30,867 --> 00:21:32,135
and that's where I was born.
551
00:21:32,702 --> 00:21:34,804
[mom]
He was a very busy little boy.
552
00:21:34,837 --> 00:21:37,341
He was always into
many different things.
553
00:21:37,374 --> 00:21:38,941
He was an asshole.
554
00:21:38,975 --> 00:21:40,444
[interviewer]
Can you take us back
555
00:21:40,477 --> 00:21:42,246
to your first experience
with criminal activity?
556
00:21:42,279 --> 00:21:43,846
[Rodney] Okay, I go
into an ice cream parlor,
557
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,449
I was five
and a half years old,
558
00:21:45,482 --> 00:21:47,183
I didn't have the money
to pay for the ice cream,
559
00:21:47,217 --> 00:21:48,885
so while she went out
to use the restroom,
560
00:21:48,918 --> 00:21:50,753
I got the two ice creams
and I took the till
561
00:21:50,787 --> 00:21:52,755
and opened it up and got
all the money out the till
562
00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:54,291
and walked right out.
563
00:21:54,325 --> 00:21:59,028
♪
564
00:22:16,779 --> 00:22:18,214
[employee] Hey!
What're you doing!
565
00:22:18,248 --> 00:22:20,083
Kid! Hey!
566
00:22:20,116 --> 00:22:21,818
He. .
567
00:22:21,851 --> 00:22:25,021
he thought of lots of ways to,
um, make money.
568
00:22:25,054 --> 00:22:26,457
He was a thief.
569
00:22:26,490 --> 00:22:29,225
♪ Come on,
gimme a reason ♪
570
00:22:29,259 --> 00:22:31,528
♪ To make me stay ♪
571
00:22:31,562 --> 00:22:33,963
♪ And if you come beggin' ♪
572
00:22:33,996 --> 00:22:35,265
[Rodney] I robbed
my first beer truck
573
00:22:35,299 --> 00:22:36,933
when I was 13.
574
00:22:36,966 --> 00:22:40,870
[indistinct] way,
and I robbed it.
575
00:22:40,903 --> 00:22:43,806
Took the kegs off it,
me and this other kid.
576
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,210
♪
577
00:22:50,213 --> 00:22:52,014
Jackpot!
578
00:22:52,048 --> 00:22:54,183
-He was a little entrepreneur.
-A little bastard.
579
00:22:54,217 --> 00:22:56,018
[Rodney]
And the 18 and 19 year olds
580
00:22:56,052 --> 00:22:57,488
would buy my beer
from me back then
581
00:22:57,521 --> 00:22:59,055
so I had money
all the time.
582
00:22:59,088 --> 00:23:01,425
Welcome!
Ten bucks a keg, you hounds.
583
00:23:02,925 --> 00:23:04,894
Come on, cough it up.
584
00:23:04,927 --> 00:23:06,829
It's a good day
to be in the beer business,
585
00:23:06,863 --> 00:23:08,465
suckers.
586
00:23:08,499 --> 00:23:09,533
[female interviewer]
When did you notice a change
587
00:23:09,566 --> 00:23:10,833
in Rodney?
588
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,869
-I. .
-Uh. .
589
00:23:12,902 --> 00:23:14,471
I don't wanna talk about. .
Can we just. .
590
00:23:14,505 --> 00:23:16,507
I think we need to move on
to a different question.
591
00:23:16,540 --> 00:23:20,877
Rodney.
Take your pills and go to bed.
592
00:23:22,879 --> 00:23:25,081
-No more magazines!
-[door clicks shut]
593
00:23:25,549 --> 00:23:28,151
-That kid.
-What's he doin' now?
594
00:23:28,184 --> 00:23:30,920
He won't stop
with the magazines.
595
00:23:30,953 --> 00:23:32,556
What kinda mag. .
are they Playboys?
596
00:23:33,457 --> 00:23:34,525
I'm missing some Playboys.
597
00:23:35,124 --> 00:23:37,461
[Mom] Oh, I don't know.
I never thought of that.
598
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,197
I. . I guess it's better
than Playgirl.
599
00:23:41,230 --> 00:23:43,065
[Mom] Oh, gosh, I don't wanna
have to worry about that.
600
00:23:45,301 --> 00:23:46,370
You know, uh. .
601
00:23:47,203 --> 00:23:49,339
I got another call
from the principal today.
602
00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:51,274
[Mom] No. .
603
00:23:51,307 --> 00:23:52,208
They're thinking
about kicking Rod out.
604
00:23:53,042 --> 00:23:54,478
I told you
605
00:23:54,511 --> 00:23:57,213
that he is not taking
his medicine
606
00:23:57,246 --> 00:23:59,849
and when he doesn't take
his medicine,
607
00:23:59,882 --> 00:24:01,385
he goes bonkers.
608
00:24:01,418 --> 00:24:02,453
I don't like
when he takes that medicine. .
609
00:24:02,486 --> 00:24:04,120
I know. .
610
00:24:04,153 --> 00:24:06,022
He doesn't need anything
to calm him down.
611
00:24:06,055 --> 00:24:07,824
I don't know what else to do.
612
00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:11,428
[Dad] Military school?
613
00:24:14,197 --> 00:24:15,965
If you can convince him.
614
00:24:15,998 --> 00:24:17,534
[Dad] I don't think
we should give him a gun.
615
00:24:17,568 --> 00:24:19,268
[Mike] We've got things
616
00:24:19,302 --> 00:24:21,505
that we may
or may not need tomorrow.
617
00:24:21,538 --> 00:24:23,339
Um, we've got guns
618
00:24:23,373 --> 00:24:25,375
just to make sure
that we're safe
619
00:24:25,409 --> 00:24:27,411
and that everybody's safe
'cause we have no idea,
620
00:24:27,444 --> 00:24:29,178
really,
what we're up against.
621
00:24:29,212 --> 00:24:31,948
This guy claims to be
a life-long criminal,
622
00:24:31,981 --> 00:24:34,585
so we have no idea
what he's capable of
623
00:24:34,618 --> 00:24:36,653
or who
his affiliations are.
624
00:24:36,687 --> 00:24:38,388
So,
he could have people out there
625
00:24:38,422 --> 00:24:40,323
waiting for us to bring it back
to the hotel,
626
00:24:40,356 --> 00:24:43,259
people that track us
to the dig site.
627
00:24:43,292 --> 00:24:47,129
And if this money,
um, is there,
628
00:24:47,163 --> 00:24:48,364
uh, I. . I really feel like
629
00:24:48,398 --> 00:24:49,966
we can't let him
just walk away.
630
00:24:49,999 --> 00:24:51,502
There's no option there.
631
00:24:51,535 --> 00:24:53,169
I mean, if. .
if we don't turn the money in
632
00:24:53,202 --> 00:24:54,605
then we're liaisons. .
633
00:24:54,638 --> 00:24:56,272
-We're criminals. .
- . to the crime.
634
00:24:56,305 --> 00:24:57,373
He thinks
he has this thing lined up.
635
00:24:57,841 --> 00:24:59,443
[Mike] We're gonna set up camp
in Woodland,
636
00:24:59,476 --> 00:25:01,177
that's where the hotels
are gonna be
637
00:25:01,210 --> 00:25:02,613
that we're gonna work out of
and then the. .
638
00:25:02,646 --> 00:25:04,347
the bar that the money
was found
639
00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:06,916
is down southwest
of that area.
640
00:25:07,417 --> 00:25:09,986
So, geographically,
it's not too far away.
641
00:25:10,019 --> 00:25:11,320
Just outside of town.
642
00:25:11,354 --> 00:25:13,055
We're gonna rally
at 5:00 a. m.
643
00:25:13,089 --> 00:25:15,291
and we're gonna drive down
the highway
644
00:25:15,324 --> 00:25:18,294
and, um,
go after the money.
645
00:25:18,327 --> 00:25:20,930
Just basically. .
just go right at it.
646
00:25:20,963 --> 00:25:23,366
Picked the boys up,
they're ready to roll.
647
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,235
[Rodney] Let's go down
and unbury that money.
648
00:25:26,269 --> 00:25:27,571
[Mike] All right,
let's get her done.
649
00:25:27,604 --> 00:25:29,171
[Rodney]
All right, all right.
650
00:25:29,205 --> 00:25:31,007
You can ask me
any questions you want.
651
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,375
[interviewer] Did you ever
conceive of this plan
652
00:25:32,408 --> 00:25:34,043
beforehand
or thought, like,"Oh,
653
00:25:34,076 --> 00:25:35,512
you know, I might be able
to hijack a plane,
654
00:25:35,546 --> 00:25:36,480
get some ransom money,
655
00:25:36,513 --> 00:25:38,047
-and jump out of it?"
-Never.
656
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,349
I call it skyjacking,
but never.
657
00:25:40,383 --> 00:25:42,018
[interviewer]
How did you even know
658
00:25:42,051 --> 00:25:43,554
how to jump out
of a commercial airplane?
659
00:25:43,587 --> 00:25:45,054
It seems like
you would have to
660
00:25:45,087 --> 00:25:47,524
know something about aviation.
661
00:25:47,558 --> 00:25:51,193
A friend of mine,
Roger Gackle was a flight. .
662
00:25:51,227 --> 00:25:52,529
he organized the flights
663
00:25:52,563 --> 00:25:54,063
coming in and out
of the airport.
664
00:25:54,096 --> 00:25:55,532
He invited me in
with Rick Gackle,
665
00:25:55,566 --> 00:25:57,568
so I knew the whole layout
before I did it.
666
00:25:57,601 --> 00:25:59,235
[interviewer] Okay,
so Roger Gackle
667
00:25:59,268 --> 00:26:00,704
was kind of like this guy
that taught you
668
00:26:00,737 --> 00:26:02,138
the inner workings
of what aviation is.
669
00:26:02,171 --> 00:26:03,674
He just [indistinct]
670
00:26:03,707 --> 00:26:08,945
♪
671
00:26:12,214 --> 00:26:13,282
[man] Let's go Rod!
672
00:26:16,352 --> 00:26:17,420
[bowling pins clatter]
673
00:26:17,954 --> 00:26:19,989
-[man] Yeah!
-[men cheering]
674
00:26:20,022 --> 00:26:21,692
That's how it's done, fellas!
675
00:26:21,725 --> 00:26:23,192
-Hey, where's Gackle?
-He went back to the airport.
676
00:26:23,225 --> 00:26:24,761
[young Rodney grunts]
677
00:26:24,795 --> 00:26:26,563
Gackle gave me
a tour of that 727 last week.
678
00:26:26,597 --> 00:26:28,331
-Have you been on that thing?
-Nah.
679
00:26:28,364 --> 00:26:29,766
[sighs] He showed me
every switch and lever.
680
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,635
That bird can do
some serious action.
681
00:26:31,668 --> 00:26:33,369
This guy's been hot
on airplanes ever since
682
00:26:33,402 --> 00:26:35,104
he jumped off the roof
when he was seven.
683
00:26:35,137 --> 00:26:36,740
[all laughing]
684
00:26:36,773 --> 00:26:39,442
-Hey! What's up, you goons?
-[Marty] Hey, buddy boy.
685
00:26:39,475 --> 00:26:41,077
We goin'
to the loop on Friday?
686
00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:43,179
[all] Oh, the loop!
687
00:26:43,212 --> 00:26:45,716
Oh, the loop! Yeah!
688
00:26:47,283 --> 00:26:51,187
South of the
Washington-Oregon border.
689
00:26:51,220 --> 00:26:53,356
A little
Portland hideout, fun-out.
690
00:26:53,389 --> 00:26:54,558
And when Rodney showed up. .
691
00:26:54,591 --> 00:26:56,492
[guitar riff plays]
692
00:26:56,526 --> 00:26:58,427
that's when
the party lifted off.
693
00:27:01,531 --> 00:27:03,332
[young Rodney]
Hey, how you doin'?
694
00:27:04,333 --> 00:27:05,669
[Marty] Hey, what's up, Rod?
695
00:27:05,702 --> 00:27:07,136
How you doing, brother?
696
00:27:07,169 --> 00:27:09,105
-Hey, Rod.
-Hey, baby.
697
00:27:09,138 --> 00:27:10,574
[Rodney] Oh, the loop is
where we used to gang fight,
698
00:27:10,607 --> 00:27:12,241
race cars,
and monkey around
699
00:27:12,274 --> 00:27:13,710
with wild women
down there, okay?
700
00:27:13,744 --> 00:27:16,145
[Marty] Here's the loop.
Fast cars.
701
00:27:16,178 --> 00:27:17,547
Yeah, dude,
it looks like you need
702
00:27:17,581 --> 00:27:19,248
a new radiator hose.
703
00:27:19,281 --> 00:27:21,752
[Marty] Lotta women.
Lotta drugs.
704
00:27:21,785 --> 00:27:24,086
Goddamn this shit is good.
705
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:25,689
[Marty] Lotta people
706
00:27:25,722 --> 00:27:27,323
havin' a good time
mixing 'em all together.
707
00:27:27,356 --> 00:27:29,058
Gotcha! [laughs]
708
00:27:29,091 --> 00:27:31,193
Do me next,
but I like it a little slower!
709
00:27:31,227 --> 00:27:33,095
Fuck you, Larry.
710
00:27:33,129 --> 00:27:35,666
Well, look who decides
to show his cock to the party!
711
00:27:35,699 --> 00:27:37,266
Welcome, baby.
712
00:27:37,299 --> 00:27:39,603
Let's have
a good time. [laughs]
713
00:27:41,705 --> 00:27:43,105
[Marty] It was everything
we were about.
714
00:27:44,608 --> 00:27:47,243
We lived it.
715
00:27:47,276 --> 00:27:49,211
That's one of
my favorite memories.
716
00:27:49,245 --> 00:27:51,147
I remember one time Rodney,
was waving around a gun.
717
00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:52,749
I think he. . I don't know
what drug he was on.
718
00:27:52,783 --> 00:27:54,150
You never really knew.
719
00:27:54,183 --> 00:27:55,619
I probably helped him with it.
720
00:27:55,652 --> 00:27:56,853
He was just
waving around a gun,
721
00:27:56,887 --> 00:27:58,320
wanting to fight.
722
00:27:58,922 --> 00:28:00,356
I can't even remember,
he was ready
723
00:28:00,389 --> 00:28:02,191
to fight anyone, even me.
724
00:28:02,224 --> 00:28:03,627
-You see Stacy's cousin?
-[Rodney] Wayne Shannon,
725
00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:05,494
I fought him
twice out in Gutterway.
726
00:28:05,528 --> 00:28:06,763
First time was a draw.
Second time I beat him.
727
00:28:06,797 --> 00:28:08,799
Who didn't see
Stacy's cousin.
728
00:28:08,832 --> 00:28:11,233
-Fuck! Goddamn.
-[all laugh]
729
00:28:11,267 --> 00:28:13,804
Yeah, I seem to remember
Stacy's cousin
730
00:28:13,837 --> 00:28:16,138
because I think it was around
her 19th birthday.
731
00:28:16,172 --> 00:28:17,808
We had a pretty
good time together.
732
00:28:17,841 --> 00:28:20,610
[laughs] Yeah, and I bet
she enjoyed all three seconds.
733
00:28:20,644 --> 00:28:24,180
[all laughing]
734
00:28:25,147 --> 00:28:26,515
Excuse me?
735
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:28,417
You heard me.
I mean, girls talk.
736
00:28:29,019 --> 00:28:31,253
And they need
someone to lay the pipe.
737
00:28:31,287 --> 00:28:33,824
And we know that's not you.
I mean, let's be honest.
738
00:28:33,857 --> 00:28:35,726
[scattered laughter]
739
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:37,728
You know what? Forget you.
740
00:28:37,761 --> 00:28:40,396
Bring your skinny dick over
here and say that to my face.
741
00:28:40,429 --> 00:28:42,666
[man] Whoa, whoa, whoa!
742
00:28:42,699 --> 00:28:45,334
-[ominous music playing]
-[all yelling in panic]
743
00:28:45,367 --> 00:28:48,705
-[gun cocking]
-Come on, Rodney, come on, man.
744
00:28:49,371 --> 00:28:53,677
Now, if anyone else
wants to piss me off
745
00:28:53,710 --> 00:28:56,680
and get on my nerves,
let's have a discussion
746
00:28:56,713 --> 00:29:00,349
right now, right here,
in my office.
747
00:29:01,150 --> 00:29:02,786
Anybody got
a problem with that?
748
00:29:02,819 --> 00:29:04,788
[Wayne] No, man.
We're cool, we're cool.
749
00:29:04,821 --> 00:29:06,188
[interviewer]
I mean, you have to be
750
00:29:06,222 --> 00:29:07,791
a pretty crazed lunatic
751
00:29:07,824 --> 00:29:11,427
in order to hijack
a commercial airline flight.
752
00:29:11,460 --> 00:29:14,296
Well, I was. .
I was up for four days.
753
00:29:14,330 --> 00:29:16,532
I had a bag
of criss-cross speed
754
00:29:17,233 --> 00:29:19,703
-and I'd pop 'em and get up.
-[Interviewer] So like stuff,
755
00:29:19,736 --> 00:29:21,805
-like, Johnny Cash used to do?
-[Rodney] Yeah, same stuff.
756
00:29:21,838 --> 00:29:23,673
Not the black beauties,
but the. . the,
757
00:29:23,707 --> 00:29:25,508
you know,
the white criss-cross speed.
758
00:29:25,541 --> 00:29:27,510
It was all over the place
in the old days.
759
00:29:27,543 --> 00:29:29,612
We'd always take the uppers
when we went drinkin'
760
00:29:29,645 --> 00:29:31,681
and. . and carousing
and stuff so. .
761
00:29:32,648 --> 00:29:33,884
Rodney always had a plan,
762
00:29:34,650 --> 00:29:36,418
no matter what it was.
763
00:29:36,452 --> 00:29:40,256
-[young Rodney whistling]
-[Marty vocalizing]
764
00:29:40,289 --> 00:29:41,624
[young Rodney] Knock-knock,
765
00:29:41,657 --> 00:29:43,359
Christmas came early,
my friend.
766
00:29:43,392 --> 00:29:45,594
Ooh, is that
the shit Cash is using?
767
00:29:45,628 --> 00:29:48,364
[young Rodney laughs]
Make no mistake,
768
00:29:48,397 --> 00:29:49,833
these are not black beauties.
769
00:29:49,866 --> 00:29:52,201
No, sir, this is criss-cross.
770
00:29:52,234 --> 00:29:53,904
This stuff, my friend,
will sell.
771
00:29:54,403 --> 00:29:57,473
Oh! It's like
the first snow in winter.
772
00:29:58,074 --> 00:30:00,476
-What a beaut!
-That'll knock the pins down.
773
00:30:01,577 --> 00:30:03,546
Care to ski the slopes,
my friend?
774
00:30:03,579 --> 00:30:05,749
[Marty] I'd been a supplier
of drugs for a long time
775
00:30:05,782 --> 00:30:07,316
so I could ignite the fun,
776
00:30:07,349 --> 00:30:08,952
but hi. . hi. . his. .
his plans were
777
00:30:08,985 --> 00:30:12,388
how can we make
money and have some fun too?
778
00:30:12,421 --> 00:30:14,323
[sniffing]
779
00:30:14,356 --> 00:30:16,358
-[both moaning in pleasure]
-I will criss-cross this
780
00:30:16,392 --> 00:30:17,727
all across the county.
781
00:30:17,761 --> 00:30:19,361
[Rodney exhales audibly]
Tic-tac-toe.
782
00:30:19,395 --> 00:30:21,330
Across the states we go,
my friend.
783
00:30:22,631 --> 00:30:24,200
But we gotta be quick
about this, pal.
784
00:30:24,768 --> 00:30:26,870
Dude,
I have never let you down, Rod.
785
00:30:27,938 --> 00:30:29,773
You've never
let me down, buddy.
786
00:30:31,540 --> 00:30:34,276
[both clicking tongue
and sniffing]
787
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:35,477
[interviewer]
How're you feeling, sir?
788
00:30:35,511 --> 00:30:36,712
[Mike] I'm feeling great.
789
00:30:36,746 --> 00:30:38,280
Hungry, about to eat.
790
00:30:38,714 --> 00:30:41,918
I'm excited about the fact
that he's an old honcho
791
00:30:41,952 --> 00:30:43,854
that just is excited
and ready to roll.
792
00:30:43,887 --> 00:30:46,422
Everything he's told us
is stuff we haven't heard
793
00:30:46,455 --> 00:30:48,257
in the news, or most of it,
794
00:30:48,290 --> 00:30:51,493
and only one person would know
all these details.
795
00:30:51,527 --> 00:30:53,964
So, our optimism is rising.
796
00:30:53,997 --> 00:30:56,565
You gotta mind, uh. .
[clears throat]
797
00:30:56,599 --> 00:30:57,901
when I took the jump,
798
00:30:57,934 --> 00:30:59,870
I had a pair of
penny loafers on.
799
00:31:00,569 --> 00:31:03,840
So, uh, I lost one of my
penny loafers on the way down.
800
00:31:03,874 --> 00:31:06,843
[laughs]
801
00:31:06,877 --> 00:31:08,577
So I ended
up buying
802
00:31:08,611 --> 00:31:10,346
a pair of tennis shoes
on the way out. [laughs]
803
00:31:10,379 --> 00:31:12,748
I had to walk to the road,
go to Woodland
804
00:31:12,782 --> 00:31:14,583
to get the tennis shoes
[indistinct]
805
00:31:14,617 --> 00:31:16,019
Piggly Wiggly,
just closing up
806
00:31:16,052 --> 00:31:17,720
at ten o'clock at night.
807
00:31:17,753 --> 00:31:19,588
I had to beg
and plead with the lady
808
00:31:19,622 --> 00:31:23,325
to get the tennis shoes,
but then I had shoes.
809
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,996
And so then I took a. .
I went to a payphone to call
810
00:31:26,029 --> 00:31:28,798
a cab and I took the cab back
to Portland to get my car.
811
00:31:29,966 --> 00:31:31,667
57 Chevy.
812
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:34,536
Two door hardtop
with that. .
813
00:31:34,570 --> 00:31:37,539
[Will] Like, the stuff
that he's talking about
814
00:31:37,573 --> 00:31:39,308
is so detailed.
815
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:44,014
He's like Jesus,
he's either a psychopath,
816
00:31:44,047 --> 00:31:48,818
liar, narcissist,
or it's true.
817
00:31:49,485 --> 00:31:51,021
-It's crazy.
-[man] What is your. . what. .
818
00:31:51,054 --> 00:31:52,755
what are you thinking
right now?
819
00:31:52,788 --> 00:31:55,291
-What do you think?
-Honestly, after that?
820
00:31:56,458 --> 00:31:59,395
After that I'm kind of
convinced. .
821
00:31:59,428 --> 00:32:01,064
It would just. .
he would be going
822
00:32:01,097 --> 00:32:02,933
to such great lengths. .
823
00:32:05,434 --> 00:32:09,705
all for, like, a lie, which,
again, is possible,
824
00:32:09,738 --> 00:32:12,842
but I'm starting to. .
825
00:32:12,876 --> 00:32:14,911
I'm starting to be convinced.
826
00:32:14,945 --> 00:32:16,679
[Mike] What are
your thoughts now that
827
00:32:16,712 --> 00:32:18,048
you've seen
the confidence he has?
828
00:32:18,647 --> 00:32:20,416
[Tyler] I mean,
I'm pretty, like,
829
00:32:20,449 --> 00:32:21,583
like Will was saying,
he's just, like,
830
00:32:21,617 --> 00:32:24,054
he's either a crazed lunatic
831
00:32:24,087 --> 00:32:27,356
or, you know, or he's telling
the complete truth
832
00:32:27,389 --> 00:32:29,425
and this is all real,
you know?
833
00:32:29,458 --> 00:32:31,061
I mean, there's only two ways
to spin it.
834
00:32:31,094 --> 00:32:32,628
What did you compare him to?
Jesus?
835
00:32:32,661 --> 00:32:34,363
[Mike]
Right, but. . but don't. .
836
00:32:34,396 --> 00:32:36,465
don't you always
come back to the fact
837
00:32:36,498 --> 00:32:40,070
that he actually
is going to take us there
838
00:32:40,103 --> 00:32:43,405
and what does he expect
to have happened
839
00:32:43,439 --> 00:32:46,109
if we don't find it.
840
00:32:46,142 --> 00:32:48,844
It. . that's what confuses me.
What is his end game?
841
00:32:48,878 --> 00:32:50,713
[Rodney] I said
I would never go dig it up
842
00:32:50,746 --> 00:32:52,414
until the timing was right.
843
00:32:52,448 --> 00:32:54,817
Well,
now the time is right.
844
00:32:54,850 --> 00:32:56,685
I have every FBI agent
845
00:32:56,719 --> 00:32:58,088
in the United States
looking for me. .
846
00:33:00,190 --> 00:33:01,958
because they gotta prove
their point,
847
00:33:01,992 --> 00:33:03,059
they gotta get that man.
848
00:33:06,495 --> 00:33:07,863
They got the rest of 'em.
849
00:33:09,565 --> 00:33:11,433
Killed Pretty Boy Floyd,
850
00:33:11,467 --> 00:33:13,970
Dillinger,
and Baby Face Nell.
851
00:33:14,004 --> 00:33:15,571
They got 'em all.
852
00:33:15,604 --> 00:33:17,606
You don't think
they won't get me too?
853
00:33:17,639 --> 00:33:19,408
Well, that's
the way it looks to me.
854
00:33:19,441 --> 00:33:20,876
-I am not stupid.
-[interviewer] But Why did. .
855
00:33:20,910 --> 00:33:23,812
Why did you resort
to a life of crime?
856
00:33:23,846 --> 00:33:25,547
I don't know.
857
00:33:25,581 --> 00:33:26,882
I. . I robbed Safeway stores,
I used to get
858
00:33:26,916 --> 00:33:28,717
30-40,000
a whack out of them,
859
00:33:28,751 --> 00:33:30,652
but, you know, I was a young. .
I was a gangster.
860
00:33:30,686 --> 00:33:32,654
I was running around
with a bunch of tough kids.
861
00:33:32,688 --> 00:33:34,690
[Interviewer] And these were
armed robberies?
862
00:33:34,723 --> 00:33:37,093
[Rodney] Yeah, I committed
20 or 30 armed robberies.
863
00:33:37,127 --> 00:33:39,528
And I was with McDonald
on about ten of 'em.
864
00:33:39,561 --> 00:33:41,164
[exhaling audibly]
Where are we headed?
865
00:33:42,564 --> 00:33:45,534
[sighs]
As far as we can, Marty.
866
00:33:45,567 --> 00:33:47,503
As far as we can.
867
00:33:47,536 --> 00:33:49,438
[laughs]
868
00:33:49,471 --> 00:33:51,673
Robbery was involved
and I can't say
869
00:33:51,707 --> 00:33:53,542
I wanted to do it
most of the time,
870
00:33:53,575 --> 00:33:57,646
but he's a seller of fun
and a seller of, uh, crazy.
871
00:33:57,679 --> 00:34:00,716
[Young Rodney] Empty that safe
into that bag right now!
872
00:34:00,749 --> 00:34:02,551
-Do it! Every last dime!
-[Cashier] That's all of it!
873
00:34:02,584 --> 00:34:04,087
-That's all we got!
-[young Rodney] Oh, come on,
874
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,888
you stupid ass hippy,
fill that thing up!
875
00:34:06,855 --> 00:34:08,091
We happy, buddy?
876
00:34:09,025 --> 00:34:12,861
[breathing heavily]
877
00:34:13,495 --> 00:34:15,131
I want you to remember
this face.
878
00:34:16,266 --> 00:34:18,767
You're gonna be reading
about it for a long, long time.
879
00:34:19,668 --> 00:34:21,137
Let's move out, sunshine.
880
00:34:21,171 --> 00:34:23,173
♪ Uh huh ♪
881
00:34:23,206 --> 00:34:26,675
[young Rodney whooping]
882
00:34:26,708 --> 00:34:29,212
♪ We gonna tear this
motherfucker up ♪
883
00:34:29,245 --> 00:34:30,946
♪ And burn this
motherfucker down ♪
884
00:34:30,980 --> 00:34:32,681
[young Rodney] Yes!
885
00:34:32,714 --> 00:34:34,650
[Marty] Drugs, guns,
whatever was involved.
886
00:34:34,683 --> 00:34:35,951
I was ready for the ride.
887
00:34:36,919 --> 00:34:38,854
I hope you like Chinese food,
888
00:34:38,887 --> 00:34:40,756
buddy, 'cause we're gonna get
our feast on tonight.
889
00:34:40,789 --> 00:34:42,092
What're you talkin' about?
What. . what Chinese food?
890
00:34:42,125 --> 00:34:43,792
♪ A lot of stories ♪
891
00:34:43,826 --> 00:34:46,962
♪ Uh-huh, yeah, uh-huh ♪
892
00:34:46,996 --> 00:34:49,698
Not The Dragon, man,
I eat here twice a week!
893
00:34:51,067 --> 00:34:52,801
Marty. .
894
00:34:52,835 --> 00:34:54,636
[laughing] I thought you
wanted to be a gangster!
895
00:34:55,471 --> 00:34:58,141
Rod, have you had
the kung pao here?
896
00:34:59,008 --> 00:35:00,509
Best in town.
897
00:35:00,542 --> 00:35:02,145
And if we do this,
898
00:35:02,178 --> 00:35:03,879
-I can't eat here anymore!
-No,
899
00:35:03,912 --> 00:35:05,215
I haven't had
the kung pao here, Marty.
900
00:35:05,248 --> 00:35:06,915
And who the fuck cares?
901
00:35:06,949 --> 00:35:10,919
Ah, Rod, seriously,
I eat here all the time!
902
00:35:10,953 --> 00:35:13,689
It's sweet, Yuki
will probably recognize me!
903
00:35:15,058 --> 00:35:16,592
Man,
I've been trying to ask her out
904
00:35:16,625 --> 00:35:18,494
the last couple weeks,
man.
905
00:35:18,961 --> 00:35:21,997
Marty, put the mask on,
disguise your voice,
906
00:35:22,031 --> 00:35:23,732
and then next week you can
take out
907
00:35:23,765 --> 00:35:25,701
sweet Yuki on a
wonderful date
908
00:35:25,734 --> 00:35:28,271
with all the money
that you rob from her tonight.
909
00:35:28,304 --> 00:35:31,307
[inhales audibly]
If you had had the kung pao,
910
00:35:31,341 --> 00:35:33,143
we wouldn't be doin' this
right now, man.
911
00:35:33,176 --> 00:35:34,543
Shut the fuck up, Marty.
912
00:35:34,576 --> 00:35:36,845
[rock music playing]
913
00:35:41,783 --> 00:35:43,519
All right,
hands in the air, sweetheart!
914
00:35:44,420 --> 00:35:46,555
Now, I want you to go back
to that register,
915
00:35:46,588 --> 00:35:49,691
and take every last dollar,
and put it inside this bag.
916
00:35:49,725 --> 00:35:52,928
If you try any funny stuff,
things are gonna get
917
00:35:52,961 --> 00:35:55,231
un-fucking-funny,
918
00:35:55,265 --> 00:35:56,532
real fuckin' quick!
919
00:35:59,902 --> 00:36:01,770
And don't skimp on
those fortune cookies either.
920
00:36:09,112 --> 00:36:10,879
[Marty] Come on, Yuki.
921
00:36:10,913 --> 00:36:12,581
We're not gonna hurt you,
we just need the money.
922
00:36:13,183 --> 00:36:14,317
Marty?
923
00:36:18,687 --> 00:36:20,123
Marty!
924
00:36:20,156 --> 00:36:25,361
♪
925
00:36:25,395 --> 00:36:27,197
[music stops]
926
00:36:27,230 --> 00:36:29,132
I saved
the best for last.
927
00:36:29,165 --> 00:36:31,167
No clerks, no bullshit.
928
00:36:32,067 --> 00:36:34,603
Just good old-fashioned
American takin' stuff.
929
00:36:35,371 --> 00:36:38,174
And you know
how much I love takin' stuff!
930
00:36:44,813 --> 00:36:47,015
[Marty] What if someone comes
in there while we're there?
931
00:36:47,049 --> 00:36:48,917
Oh, fuck, Marty!
932
00:36:48,951 --> 00:36:51,120
These rich fucks only
come here in the summertime!
933
00:36:51,154 --> 00:36:52,754
The rest of the year,
this house is barren,
934
00:36:52,788 --> 00:36:53,956
it's just ready
to get picked off!
935
00:36:54,490 --> 00:36:55,824
Don't you think
we should just quit
936
00:36:55,857 --> 00:36:56,925
while we're ahead?
937
00:36:59,928 --> 00:37:01,331
I will tell you
938
00:37:01,364 --> 00:37:03,699
when we are ahead,
you stupid bitch!
939
00:37:03,732 --> 00:37:05,968
[breathing heavily]
These fucks are ahead.
940
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:08,837
Now. .
941
00:37:11,073 --> 00:37:13,976
picking off two places
in one night is child's play!
942
00:37:15,744 --> 00:37:17,045
But you pick off
three places. .
943
00:37:18,348 --> 00:37:19,948
That's a spree, buddy.
944
00:37:20,749 --> 00:37:22,252
That's a spree.
945
00:37:23,186 --> 00:37:24,786
Four. . three places?
946
00:37:25,288 --> 00:37:27,823
[Rodney] Here's a. . here's
thing on me, right here.
947
00:37:27,856 --> 00:37:31,361
November 24, 1971,
a man called himself
948
00:37:31,394 --> 00:37:33,061
Dan Cooper. Yeah, I did.
949
00:37:33,596 --> 00:37:35,664
The name came
from Jackie Cooper,
950
00:37:35,697 --> 00:37:37,132
the first. . last name.
951
00:37:37,166 --> 00:37:39,134
And the front name
was my cousin, Dan.
952
00:37:39,168 --> 00:37:40,902
[interviewer]
Who's Jackie Cooper?
953
00:37:40,936 --> 00:37:42,338
Movie star.
954
00:37:42,372 --> 00:37:44,706
Played in, uh, Frank James in,
955
00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:48,744
uh, one of the Ford brothers
in a. . in a movie.
956
00:37:48,777 --> 00:37:50,413
Every single question
we asked Rodney
957
00:37:50,446 --> 00:37:52,781
about the crime,
he had an answer for.
958
00:37:52,814 --> 00:37:55,717
And he didn't have to stutter
or stammer or think about it.
959
00:37:55,751 --> 00:37:58,388
It came out very naturally,
like it was the truth.
960
00:37:58,421 --> 00:38:00,722
We just elevated up.
961
00:38:00,756 --> 00:38:04,026
I handed her the note
and then she says,
962
00:38:04,059 --> 00:38:05,694
"I can't go out with you. "
963
00:38:06,061 --> 00:38:07,963
I says,
"You better read the note. "
964
00:38:07,996 --> 00:38:09,365
[Carlos] She. . she thought
you were asking her for a date?
965
00:38:09,399 --> 00:38:10,799
[Rodney]
Asking her for a date, yeah.
966
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:13,902
[chuckles]
Not very picky, are you?
967
00:38:13,935 --> 00:38:16,272
-I'm flattered, but married.
-[Rodney laughs]
968
00:38:16,306 --> 00:38:17,473
[Carlos]
What did the note say?
969
00:38:17,507 --> 00:38:19,007
Uh, it says I have,
970
00:38:19,041 --> 00:38:21,076
uh, a briefcase
full of dynamite,
971
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:23,945
explosives,
and if I don't get
972
00:38:23,979 --> 00:38:25,747
what I want,
I'll blow the plane up.
973
00:38:25,781 --> 00:38:27,849
[Carlos]
And how did she react?
974
00:38:27,883 --> 00:38:29,718
She says, "Oh, my God. "
975
00:38:29,751 --> 00:38:31,387
She just ran right up there
as fast as she could.
976
00:38:31,421 --> 00:38:33,755
Not run,
but briskly went up there.
977
00:38:33,789 --> 00:38:34,890
[Carlos]
Up to the cockpit?
978
00:38:34,923 --> 00:38:36,058
-Yeah.
-[Carlos] Yeah.
979
00:38:36,592 --> 00:38:39,127
And then, uh,
that's when I had trouble.
980
00:38:39,161 --> 00:38:41,364
Lawrence Finegold.
981
00:38:41,397 --> 00:38:42,931
[Carlos] One of the things
982
00:38:42,964 --> 00:38:44,900
that. . that I found
interesting,
983
00:38:44,933 --> 00:38:46,436
uh, as Rodney was filling in
the details of the incident
984
00:38:46,469 --> 00:38:49,137
was an interaction
with a young attorney
985
00:38:49,171 --> 00:38:51,006
out of Seattle
named Finegold.
986
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:52,874
He started coming back
at me and I came right up to
987
00:38:52,908 --> 00:38:54,843
him and said, "You better
sit down and shut up.
988
00:38:54,876 --> 00:38:56,912
No funny stuff.
He goes, "What is this?"
989
00:38:56,945 --> 00:38:59,014
I says, "Your toupee's not. .
not straight on your head.
990
00:38:59,047 --> 00:39:00,849
I acted, like,
a little bit crazy but. .
991
00:39:00,882 --> 00:39:02,818
I would sit down
and I would straighten out
992
00:39:02,851 --> 00:39:04,753
that fuckin' toupee
if I were you.
993
00:39:04,786 --> 00:39:06,322
No funny stuff.
994
00:39:06,356 --> 00:39:08,023
[Mike] Rodney told him to,
you know, sit down
995
00:39:08,056 --> 00:39:10,125
and that his hairpiece
was slightly ajar,
996
00:39:10,158 --> 00:39:12,094
which it. . it appears
997
00:39:12,127 --> 00:39:14,029
that maybe he was wearing
a hairpiece.
998
00:39:14,062 --> 00:39:15,465
So, to me, I thought
that was a very,
999
00:39:15,498 --> 00:39:18,166
very specific detail,
and later,
1000
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,769
it turns out
that Finegold acknowledged
1001
00:39:20,802 --> 00:39:23,205
his interaction with Rodney.
1002
00:39:23,238 --> 00:39:25,774
My 25th anniversary
I called him on the phone
1003
00:39:25,807 --> 00:39:28,311
from Seattle and said
I'm DB Cooper and he goes,
1004
00:39:28,344 --> 00:39:29,911
"Okay, if you're DB Cooper,
tell me what. .
1005
00:39:29,945 --> 00:39:31,246
what I wanna hear. "
1006
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,048
and I said, "What
do you wanna hear and he goes,
1007
00:39:33,081 --> 00:39:34,417
"You know
what you told me. "
1008
00:39:34,450 --> 00:39:36,218
and so I told him
the same thing
1009
00:39:36,251 --> 00:39:37,420
and he says, "Oh, my God,
you're still alive. "
1010
00:39:37,886 --> 00:39:40,122
-[Mike] And they're all 20's!
-I got
1011
00:39:40,155 --> 00:39:42,090
193,000 something dollars
buried on the beach.
1012
00:39:42,592 --> 00:39:44,327
[Carlos chuckles]
And we're about to go find it.
1013
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,962
By a big,
black onyx rock.
1014
00:39:46,995 --> 00:39:50,031
So the beauty is gonna be us
going from this point
1015
00:39:50,065 --> 00:39:51,501
right now,
from these interviews,
1016
00:39:51,534 --> 00:39:54,870
to the site where he was
at that time and,
1017
00:39:54,903 --> 00:39:58,240
um, hopefully putting
a bow on his story.
1018
00:39:58,273 --> 00:40:00,108
Right now we need
to button up
1019
00:40:00,142 --> 00:40:03,278
and get it together and go out
and. . and track it down.
1020
00:40:03,312 --> 00:40:05,581
All right,
let's go dig it up!
1021
00:40:05,615 --> 00:40:06,915
[Mike]
Are you feeling confident?
1022
00:40:06,948 --> 00:40:08,384
I'm confident. Yeah.
1023
00:40:10,586 --> 00:40:13,389
Well, the old Chinamen say,
"Can you dig it?"
1024
00:40:13,423 --> 00:40:15,324
And then you're digging it!
1025
00:40:15,358 --> 00:40:18,226
So we're going treasure hunting
and just dig it up!
1026
00:40:18,260 --> 00:40:20,128
[Mike] How 'bout you?
Stressed?
1027
00:40:20,162 --> 00:40:23,064
[Wes]
This shit is super crazy.
1028
00:40:23,098 --> 00:40:26,602
I'm excited and he's got
some details that are just. .
1029
00:40:26,636 --> 00:40:29,905
I mean, he told. . he told
the lawyer
1030
00:40:30,339 --> 00:40:32,274
your toupee is crooked.
[laughs]
1031
00:40:32,307 --> 00:40:34,943
Like, that's a detail
and a half if it's real.
1032
00:40:34,976 --> 00:40:37,547
No, you don't wanna marry
an outlaw,
1033
00:40:37,580 --> 00:40:39,147
we have trouble,
we have to hide
1034
00:40:39,181 --> 00:40:40,849
and everything,
you don't need that.
1035
00:40:42,452 --> 00:40:44,286
Well, now I'm gonna
have to really hide
1036
00:40:44,319 --> 00:40:45,521
when I find the money.
1037
00:40:47,322 --> 00:40:49,191
[Wes] So if we do find it,
do you think
1038
00:40:49,224 --> 00:40:51,259
your son would be excited
to hear that you found it?
1039
00:40:51,893 --> 00:40:54,029
Well,
he's my flesh and blood.
1040
00:40:54,930 --> 00:40:59,034
Anybody that's related to me
wants some of the money.
1041
00:41:02,971 --> 00:41:04,474
That's the way it works,
I guess.
1042
00:41:07,108 --> 00:41:09,878
It's too bad that
the mother did that to me and. .
1043
00:41:09,911 --> 00:41:11,279
[interviewer] Were there
any particular women
1044
00:41:11,313 --> 00:41:12,981
in your life at this time?
1045
00:41:13,014 --> 00:41:15,050
Romana Lisa Capps.
1046
00:41:15,083 --> 00:41:16,952
I met her through, uh,
high school.
1047
00:41:16,985 --> 00:41:18,621
I think there was just
something in me that was scared
1048
00:41:18,654 --> 00:41:21,223
of how lawless he was,
but that loved it too.
1049
00:41:21,724 --> 00:41:24,393
Goddamn it, I love pancakes!
1050
00:41:25,260 --> 00:41:26,562
If you love 'em so much,
1051
00:41:26,596 --> 00:41:28,096
why'd you give me
the last piece?
1052
00:41:28,129 --> 00:41:30,065
Because
I might kind of like you.
1053
00:41:30,098 --> 00:41:31,567
Wow!
Everybody hear that?
1054
00:41:31,933 --> 00:41:33,335
Romana Lisa Capps likes me.
1055
00:41:33,368 --> 00:41:34,537
-She loves me!
-Oh my. .
1056
00:41:35,303 --> 00:41:37,172
[Romana] Are you surprised
that someone
1057
00:41:37,205 --> 00:41:39,007
in the Capps family
actually likes you?
1058
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,276
Yeah, I am.
It's a huge accomplishment.
1059
00:41:41,309 --> 00:41:43,546
Maybe.
No, I definitely am.
1060
00:41:46,516 --> 00:41:48,350
But, um, I gotta ask you
something.
1061
00:41:48,383 --> 00:41:49,885
I heard a rumor,
um. .
1062
00:41:51,286 --> 00:41:53,288
I heard your dad wrapped
the family car around a tree
1063
00:41:53,321 --> 00:41:55,223
last week on 21st street,
is that true?
1064
00:41:55,658 --> 00:41:58,126
Yeah. I mean,
I guess everybody knows
1065
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:00,195
he's the town drunk now.
1066
00:42:00,228 --> 00:42:01,997
No one thinks
your dad's the town drunk.
1067
00:42:03,131 --> 00:42:04,467
He made a mistake,
1068
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:06,134
we all make mistakes,
you know?
1069
00:42:06,736 --> 00:42:09,237
Life goes on. Who cares?
1070
00:42:11,541 --> 00:42:13,909
Plus, think of the upside.
1071
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:16,579
At least now,
the whole town knows
1072
00:42:16,612 --> 00:42:18,113
that at the Capps house,
1073
00:42:18,146 --> 00:42:20,248
the liquor cabinet
is well-stocked.
1074
00:42:20,282 --> 00:42:22,317
-[Romana laughs]
-Huh?
1075
00:42:22,350 --> 00:42:24,319
Hmm.
1076
00:42:24,352 --> 00:42:26,656
Well maybe his liquor cabinet
should be our next destination.
1077
00:42:27,088 --> 00:42:30,258
Uh-oh.
You getting a bad idea?
1078
00:42:30,292 --> 00:42:32,961
Well, this one hearkens back
to the greats
1079
00:42:32,994 --> 00:42:36,398
and it's called
the ol' dine and dash.
1080
00:42:39,034 --> 00:42:40,570
Oh,
you're gonna pull this one off?
1081
00:42:40,603 --> 00:42:42,137
-[Romana] Mm-hmm.
-The big heist?
1082
00:42:51,647 --> 00:42:54,082
Ooh!
What the hell was that?
1083
00:42:54,115 --> 00:42:55,984
I just treated you
to the best pancakes
1084
00:42:56,017 --> 00:42:57,520
-of your goddamn life.
-[Rodney laughs]
1085
00:42:57,553 --> 00:42:59,522
That may be so,
but if you keep this shit up,
1086
00:42:59,555 --> 00:43:01,624
you're going to end up
a criminal, missy.
1087
00:43:01,657 --> 00:43:03,391
Oh,
has this little escapade
1088
00:43:03,425 --> 00:43:06,027
-reminded you of someone?
-Yeah, it did. .
1089
00:43:06,061 --> 00:43:08,029
♪ You got my attention,
baby ♪
1090
00:43:08,063 --> 00:43:09,699
Come on, we have a
liquor cabinet to raid.
1091
00:43:09,732 --> 00:43:11,634
[Rodney] She didn't like
who I am or what I am,
1092
00:43:11,667 --> 00:43:13,301
but she just pushed
it aside
1093
00:43:13,335 --> 00:43:15,470
that I'm a little wilder
than most people.
1094
00:43:15,504 --> 00:43:17,072
Always been wild.
1095
00:43:17,105 --> 00:43:18,440
[Romana]
Have some of this.
1096
00:43:18,473 --> 00:43:20,408
[both laugh]
1097
00:43:20,442 --> 00:43:22,110
Hair of the dog,
what've we got?
1098
00:43:22,143 --> 00:43:23,478
Ooh! Number seven,
now we're talkin'
1099
00:43:23,512 --> 00:43:25,246
-[Romana laughs]
-[young Rodney] Hmm.
1100
00:43:26,214 --> 00:43:27,349
Ah!
1101
00:43:28,383 --> 00:43:30,686
Thank you, Mr. Capps.
[sighs]
1102
00:43:33,054 --> 00:43:34,356
You got shit on your mind,
don't you?
1103
00:43:36,191 --> 00:43:37,693
Yeah.
1104
00:43:39,361 --> 00:43:40,596
Your pops?
1105
00:43:42,364 --> 00:43:44,432
Yeah. It's just. .
1106
00:43:47,536 --> 00:43:50,105
It's just hard to talk about
my father or my family.
1107
00:43:51,540 --> 00:43:52,675
I understand.
1108
00:43:53,408 --> 00:43:57,379
But I feel
really free with you.
1109
00:43:59,447 --> 00:44:00,750
That's good.
1110
00:44:00,783 --> 00:44:02,317
-[Romana laughs]
-That's real good.
1111
00:44:03,485 --> 00:44:05,286
-I'm a free guy.
-[Romana laughs]
1112
00:44:06,221 --> 00:44:08,724
Look, forget about your dad.
1113
00:44:08,758 --> 00:44:10,826
Forget about
what the town is sayin'
1114
00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:12,795
They're not sayin' shit.
They don't know anything.
1115
00:44:12,828 --> 00:44:14,697
No one knows the ins
and outs of a person's home
1116
00:44:14,730 --> 00:44:16,599
or how they run it.
1117
00:44:16,632 --> 00:44:18,166
No one knows your family,
I don't know your family.
1118
00:44:18,801 --> 00:44:20,703
All right,
think about it like this.
1119
00:44:20,736 --> 00:44:22,170
This is gonna sound
real corny.
1120
00:44:22,738 --> 00:44:25,206
-In the car of life. . okay?
-Okay.
1121
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:28,076
Every past version of us
is in the car,
1122
00:44:28,109 --> 00:44:30,713
and what I mean by that
is people screw up,
1123
00:44:30,746 --> 00:44:32,347
and hopefully they
learn from that shit.
1124
00:44:33,783 --> 00:44:35,851
The key
that no one tells you. .
1125
00:44:35,885 --> 00:44:37,820
is that when you're
driving in this car of life
1126
00:44:37,853 --> 00:44:39,454
down the highway of life. .
1127
00:44:40,288 --> 00:44:42,658
all those past versions
of yourself. .
1128
00:44:44,259 --> 00:44:45,460
they're in the car
with you.
1129
00:44:46,428 --> 00:44:49,097
And the key, the secret. .
1130
00:44:49,130 --> 00:44:50,465
is to not let
any of 'em drive.
1131
00:44:53,703 --> 00:44:55,771
Does that mean
I'm with a safe driver?
1132
00:44:55,805 --> 00:44:57,305
[young Rodney exhales audibly]
1133
00:44:58,774 --> 00:45:01,677
You're with a safe driver,
I can assure you that.
1134
00:45:01,711 --> 00:45:04,212
[Rodney] And we were goin' out
and we loved each other.
1135
00:45:04,245 --> 00:45:05,681
Her dad told me
to marry her,
1136
00:45:05,715 --> 00:45:07,315
or I'd get
shotgunned to death
1137
00:45:07,348 --> 00:45:08,818
and we had a baby
on the way
1138
00:45:08,851 --> 00:45:10,118
so I took his advice and
married her.
1139
00:45:10,151 --> 00:45:11,419
Anyway, I loved her.
1140
00:45:12,788 --> 00:45:17,693
♪ You were made for love ♪
1141
00:45:21,196 --> 00:45:27,268
♪ And we fell into ♪
1142
00:45:30,505 --> 00:45:35,845
♪ Back when
the stars began to shine ♪
1143
00:45:35,878 --> 00:45:37,512
You have
any idea where we are?
1144
00:45:37,545 --> 00:45:40,348
No. Rod, you know
I don't like surprises!
1145
00:45:40,381 --> 00:45:41,549
[young Rodney]
It's a good surprise,
1146
00:45:41,583 --> 00:45:43,284
no bad surprise, okay?
1147
00:45:43,318 --> 00:45:44,552
-You ready?
-[Romana] Okay, yes, I'm ready.
1148
00:45:44,586 --> 00:45:47,188
-Are you ready?
-Yes, yes, yes.
1149
00:45:47,222 --> 00:45:49,759
Okay. Three, two, One.
1150
00:45:50,325 --> 00:45:53,228
Oh, my God, Rod!
[gasping]
1151
00:45:53,261 --> 00:45:54,764
[young Rodney]
I know, it's a gourmet meal!
1152
00:45:54,797 --> 00:45:58,266
[Romana laughs]
This is beautiful!
1153
00:46:00,803 --> 00:46:02,504
Well, the old
man did have one thing right.
1154
00:46:06,508 --> 00:46:07,877
Will you marry me?
1155
00:46:08,576 --> 00:46:10,880
Oh, my God,
I can't wait to be
1156
00:46:10,913 --> 00:46:13,181
-Mrs. Rodney Bonnifield!
-Yes?
1157
00:46:13,214 --> 00:46:14,382
-[Romana] Yes!
-Yes?
1158
00:46:14,415 --> 00:46:15,483
[Romana] Yes!
1159
00:46:18,219 --> 00:46:20,689
[music fades]
1160
00:46:20,723 --> 00:46:22,557
Oh, man, when Rodney
and Romana got together,
1161
00:46:22,590 --> 00:46:23,926
it was a great thing.
1162
00:46:23,959 --> 00:46:25,426
It was a great
thing for Rodney.
1163
00:46:26,762 --> 00:46:28,463
I never seen him that happy.
1164
00:46:28,496 --> 00:46:30,532
Marty McFerguson
up to the t-box.
1165
00:46:30,565 --> 00:46:33,635
Averaging 350 yards
per drive.
1166
00:46:33,668 --> 00:46:35,270
[young Rodney]
You're a little pink
1167
00:46:35,303 --> 00:46:36,304
around the edges,
aren't you, Marty?
1168
00:46:36,337 --> 00:46:37,372
[Marty] Keeps me goin'
1169
00:46:39,607 --> 00:46:41,543
You take your vitamins today,
Marty?
1170
00:46:41,576 --> 00:46:44,512
-[Marty] Everyday.
-Good. [laughs]
1171
00:46:44,546 --> 00:46:45,948
Doesn't get
much better than this, buddy.
1172
00:46:45,981 --> 00:46:48,216
-[young Rodney sighs]
-Look at this!
1173
00:46:48,249 --> 00:46:49,785
[young Rodney]
Normally, on any given day,
1174
00:46:49,819 --> 00:46:51,720
Marty,
I'd agree with you.
1175
00:46:51,754 --> 00:46:53,388
But today is not a
normal day, my friend.
1176
00:46:53,823 --> 00:46:55,323
I got some good news.
1177
00:46:55,758 --> 00:46:58,459
-[Marty] What?
-You're gonna be an uncle.
1178
00:46:59,995 --> 00:47:02,463
I. . I'm gonna get adopted?
1179
00:47:02,497 --> 00:47:03,799
No, Marty.
1180
00:47:03,833 --> 00:47:05,400
I'm gonna be a father!
1181
00:47:06,434 --> 00:47:07,502
With Romana?
1182
00:47:08,436 --> 00:47:10,605
No, with your mother. .
yes, with Romana!
1183
00:47:10,638 --> 00:47:14,642
-Romana Lisa Capps!
-Rod, man! Look at you!
1184
00:47:14,676 --> 00:47:16,277
-We're having a family!
-[Marty] Oh!
1185
00:47:16,311 --> 00:47:17,746
-Man!
-[young Rodney laughs]
1186
00:47:18,279 --> 00:47:22,785
The new man Rodney Bonnifield
family man.
1187
00:47:25,955 --> 00:47:28,958
-Yes!
-[sighs] I'll take that.
1188
00:47:28,991 --> 00:47:31,794
-A new man.
-[young Rodney laughs]
1189
00:47:31,827 --> 00:47:33,428
[Marty] So what's next
for the family man?
1190
00:47:33,963 --> 00:47:35,630
[young Rodney] Well,
I gotta clean up my act.
1191
00:47:35,663 --> 00:47:37,398
I can't be doin'
what I've been doing up here
1192
00:47:37,432 --> 00:47:38,566
and Washington's
pretty much tapped out.
1193
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,002
So, I'm gonna be working
1194
00:47:40,035 --> 00:47:41,036
down in California
for a little bit.
1195
00:47:41,070 --> 00:47:43,738
♪
1196
00:47:43,772 --> 00:47:45,841
[Rodney] The Boins
was lettin' everybody go.
1197
00:47:45,875 --> 00:47:47,675
No jobs here,
so we went down there,
1198
00:47:47,709 --> 00:47:49,410
worked at Carol's Cabinets.
1199
00:47:49,444 --> 00:47:51,279
♪ And it's hard
to call it home ♪
1200
00:47:51,312 --> 00:47:53,715
♪ When it's raining
all day long ♪
1201
00:47:53,748 --> 00:47:56,517
♪ And you know
it's all been done ♪
1202
00:47:56,551 --> 00:47:58,753
♪ And you can't get you
no sun ♪
1203
00:47:58,787 --> 00:48:01,689
♪ No, no, see,
I got bigger plans ♪
1204
00:48:01,723 --> 00:48:03,893
♪ Something to hold
in my hands. . ♪
1205
00:48:03,926 --> 00:48:05,460
You here for castle tickets?
1206
00:48:06,527 --> 00:48:08,797
If you're selling magic
I'm buying.
1207
00:48:08,831 --> 00:48:11,733
♪ Going where
the sun shines ♪
1208
00:48:11,766 --> 00:48:13,434
What is this?
1209
00:48:13,468 --> 00:48:15,436
This is magic
that's gonna send your ass
1210
00:48:15,470 --> 00:48:17,372
over the fuckin' moon.
1211
00:48:18,606 --> 00:48:20,042
-How much?
-For you?
1212
00:48:20,075 --> 00:48:22,677
-$100.
-100 bucks?
1213
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:25,346
I can get this much
back up in Seattle for $40!
1214
00:48:25,380 --> 00:48:27,749
Look around, does it look like
we're in Seattle?
1215
00:48:27,782 --> 00:48:30,385
You got palm
trees in fuckin' Seattle?
1216
00:48:30,418 --> 00:48:32,687
Does Marlon Brando live
in Seattle?
1217
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:33,856
100 bucks.
1218
00:48:33,889 --> 00:48:35,024
Take it or beat it.
1219
00:48:36,825 --> 00:48:38,894
That's all I got-
1220
00:48:39,862 --> 00:48:42,797
Hey! Where's a guy go to have
a good time around here?
1221
00:48:42,831 --> 00:48:44,732
Excuse me, do I know you?
1222
00:48:44,766 --> 00:48:48,670
♪ Where the sunshine
gon' get me high ♪
1223
00:48:48,703 --> 00:48:50,772
[exhales audibly]
1224
00:48:50,805 --> 00:48:53,976
♪ I'm goin' where the sunshine
gon' get me high ♪
1225
00:48:54,009 --> 00:48:55,576
[exhales audibly]
1226
00:48:56,678 --> 00:48:58,047
[Romana] He started just doin'
1227
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,348
a lot of drugs
and. . and drinking a lot
1228
00:49:00,381 --> 00:49:02,918
and, uh, would disappear
for days on end and. .
1229
00:49:03,751 --> 00:49:05,120
I'm. . I'm not gonna raise
1230
00:49:05,154 --> 00:49:07,388
my kid
how my parents raised me.
1231
00:49:07,422 --> 00:49:09,824
[phone ringing]
1232
00:49:09,858 --> 00:49:10,960
[Romana] Ooh.
1233
00:49:13,062 --> 00:49:15,563
[ringing continues]
1234
00:49:15,596 --> 00:49:17,732
-Hello?
-[young Rodney] Hi!
1235
00:49:17,765 --> 00:49:18,968
I'm calling
for the most gorgeous woman
1236
00:49:19,001 --> 00:49:20,702
in the entire world.
1237
00:49:20,735 --> 00:49:23,973
Is that one of your
brother's pick up lines?
1238
00:49:24,006 --> 00:49:26,808
[Young Rodney] Ouch, Romana.
1239
00:49:26,841 --> 00:49:28,609
I'd say
we're well beyond that.
1240
00:49:28,643 --> 00:49:30,411
I mean,
I thought we were,
1241
00:49:30,445 --> 00:49:33,148
but someone doesn't know
how to pick up the phone.
1242
00:49:33,182 --> 00:49:35,150
[Young Rodney] I'm here
working for you, babe.
1243
00:49:35,184 --> 00:49:36,851
For the both of you.
1244
00:49:36,885 --> 00:49:39,420
-How's little Rod?
-[Ramona] He's kicking.
1245
00:49:40,588 --> 00:49:42,124
I cannot wait to feel that.
1246
00:49:42,157 --> 00:49:43,993
I'm so excited
for you to get here.
1247
00:49:44,026 --> 00:49:46,095
I just know
that this kid is gonna have
1248
00:49:46,128 --> 00:49:48,130
your eyes and,
Lord willing,
1249
00:49:48,163 --> 00:49:50,966
he doesn't have my ears,
and I think he'll be okay.
1250
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,068
-Hm.
-[Young Rodney] But seriously.
1251
00:49:53,102 --> 00:49:55,104
Being in your arms again
will be absolute Heaven
1252
00:49:55,137 --> 00:49:56,838
and I sure cannot wait.
1253
00:49:56,871 --> 00:49:58,907
Oh. Now?
1254
00:49:58,941 --> 00:50:00,842
Now you miss me?
1255
00:50:00,875 --> 00:50:04,013
Come on, babe.
What do you want from me?
1256
00:50:04,046 --> 00:50:05,613
I'm just trying to do
right by ya.
1257
00:50:06,681 --> 00:50:07,950
[Ramona]
It's late, Rod.
1258
00:50:07,983 --> 00:50:09,650
I need to go.
1259
00:50:09,684 --> 00:50:10,618
I have
an early flight tomorrow.
1260
00:50:10,651 --> 00:50:11,719
Love you.
1261
00:50:13,122 --> 00:50:14,522
[phone clicks]
1262
00:50:17,558 --> 00:50:18,826
You all right?
1263
00:50:19,660 --> 00:50:20,963
Yeah.
1264
00:50:20,996 --> 00:50:22,097
It's about time
you let him know.
1265
00:50:23,664 --> 00:50:25,466
-I know.
-He needs to know.
1266
00:50:26,701 --> 00:50:28,203
When things
started getting fucked up
1267
00:50:28,237 --> 00:50:31,006
with Rodney and I, uh,
he heard from my brother
1268
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,908
at the mechanic shop
and started coming around more
1269
00:50:33,942 --> 00:50:37,046
and maybe the truth is that. .
1270
00:50:37,612 --> 00:50:41,116
I didn't know for a while,
but I had a suspicion
1271
00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:43,751
that it was
actually Wayne Shannon's.
1272
00:50:43,785 --> 00:50:49,724
♪
1273
00:50:49,757 --> 00:50:50,792
Hey!
1274
00:50:51,793 --> 00:50:53,962
-You're here!
-Hi, Rod.
1275
00:50:54,729 --> 00:50:55,797
I can't stay long.
1276
00:50:57,166 --> 00:50:58,833
What're you talking about,
you just got into town.
1277
00:50:58,866 --> 00:51:00,202
Yeah, I wanted to talk
to you in person.
1278
00:51:00,235 --> 00:51:01,936
Do you wanna have a seat?
1279
00:51:02,837 --> 00:51:04,173
-Yeah. .
-Okay.
1280
00:51:04,206 --> 00:51:06,041
-[Romana] Chat?
-Yeah. Sure, what. .
1281
00:51:06,075 --> 00:51:07,775
What's up, babe?
1282
00:51:07,809 --> 00:51:09,811
You're always drinking
God knows how much,
1283
00:51:09,844 --> 00:51:11,813
staying out 'til
the wee hours of the morning,
1284
00:51:11,846 --> 00:51:13,815
barely
remembering to call me.
1285
00:51:13,848 --> 00:51:15,550
I am pregnant, Rod.
1286
00:51:16,551 --> 00:51:17,986
I know you're pregnant.
1287
00:51:18,453 --> 00:51:20,888
And that's why I'm down here
trying to earn a living for us.
1288
00:51:20,922 --> 00:51:23,258
[Romana] Yeah, and drink half
of it away while you're at it?
1289
00:51:23,292 --> 00:51:26,928
We are not in love, Rod.
We got married for the baby.
1290
00:51:26,961 --> 00:51:28,596
-[young Rodney] Romana. .
-And I'll be damned
1291
00:51:28,629 --> 00:51:30,032
if I spend
the rest of my life unhappy
1292
00:51:30,065 --> 00:51:31,200
just because I got pregnant.
1293
00:51:31,699 --> 00:51:34,535
Oh, hon, I'm trying to do
the right thing here.
1294
00:51:35,070 --> 00:51:36,737
I made an honest woman
out of you.
1295
00:51:36,771 --> 00:51:38,606
Yes, I got you pregnant,
but you're down here
1296
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:40,008
and we're gonna be
a family together.
1297
00:51:40,842 --> 00:51:43,578
I don't even know
if it's yours, Rod.
1298
00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:46,881
[young Rodney] Oh.
1299
00:51:48,583 --> 00:51:49,917
[sighs] Okay.
1300
00:51:50,818 --> 00:51:53,488
I know what this is about.
This is about Wayne Shannon.
1301
00:51:54,555 --> 00:51:55,990
You're fucking
Wayne Shannon.
1302
00:51:56,024 --> 00:51:57,192
[Romana]
It's none of your business.
1303
00:51:57,226 --> 00:51:58,793
I think
it is my business!
1304
00:51:59,261 --> 00:52:01,796
-It's about us!
-There is no us!
1305
00:52:01,829 --> 00:52:03,931
I am done, Rod. I am done.
1306
00:52:03,965 --> 00:52:07,269
-Do you hear that?
-Romana,
1307
00:52:07,302 --> 00:52:11,005
I moved my ass
all the way to LA for this.
1308
00:52:12,341 --> 00:52:13,674
For you.
1309
00:52:15,043 --> 00:52:16,111
For the goddamn baby.
1310
00:52:18,646 --> 00:52:20,048
And this is what you do?
1311
00:52:21,883 --> 00:52:23,318
[Rodney] She thought
she could talk to me about
1312
00:52:23,352 --> 00:52:24,719
having sex with a guy.
1313
00:52:24,752 --> 00:52:26,321
Well, you don't talk to me
1314
00:52:26,355 --> 00:52:27,322
when you have sex
with somebody else.
1315
00:52:27,356 --> 00:52:29,158
I flipped out.
1316
00:52:29,191 --> 00:52:30,858
I took a chair
and threw it right through
1317
00:52:30,892 --> 00:52:31,993
the. . right through
the side window.
1318
00:52:32,026 --> 00:52:33,628
I was, uh, very upset.
1319
00:52:33,661 --> 00:52:35,297
I thought
that she loved me,
1320
00:52:35,330 --> 00:52:37,065
but then she left me
because of my temper.
1321
00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:39,934
[Kevin]
What the fuck, Rodney?
1322
00:52:39,967 --> 00:52:41,869
I told you no more bullshit!
1323
00:52:41,903 --> 00:52:44,906
-You're gone!
-Fuck you, Kevin!
1324
00:52:44,939 --> 00:52:46,807
That's the worst pain
I've ever felt
1325
00:52:46,841 --> 00:52:48,277
in my life,
is losing her.
1326
00:52:48,310 --> 00:52:50,645
Absolutely pain
that you wouldn't believe.
1327
00:52:50,678 --> 00:52:52,247
'Cause I loved her.
1328
00:52:52,281 --> 00:52:57,818
♪ I been walking, oh, oh ♪
1329
00:52:57,852 --> 00:53:02,090
♪ Down this lonely road ♪
1330
00:53:04,226 --> 00:53:10,698
♪ Trying to find my way, mmm ♪
1331
00:53:10,731 --> 00:53:14,068
♪ Find my way back home ♪
1332
00:53:17,872 --> 00:53:21,943
♪ Sleepless nights, yeah ♪
1333
00:53:23,345 --> 00:53:27,748
♪ Cryin' 'bout my bare side ♪
1334
00:53:29,917 --> 00:53:34,323
♪ Oh, trying to get my mind ♪
1335
00:53:36,124 --> 00:53:40,828
♪ Off of your love, mmm ♪
1336
00:53:40,861 --> 00:53:45,967
♪ Sweet baby, take me back ♪
1337
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,205
♪ Oh, take me back ♪
1338
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,842
♪ To the good times ♪
1339
00:53:54,875 --> 00:53:59,714
♪ Where my heart belongs ♪
1340
00:54:01,749 --> 00:54:04,819
♪ Oh, on the open road ♪
1341
00:54:09,157 --> 00:54:14,263
♪ Night can be so cold
on this journey ♪
1342
00:54:14,296 --> 00:54:18,899
♪ Going up this open road ♪
1343
00:54:22,937 --> 00:54:24,939
[music fades]
1344
00:54:24,972 --> 00:54:26,941
[Rodney] So I got back
to Federal Way in Washington.
1345
00:54:26,974 --> 00:54:29,378
I was not very right
in the mind at the time.
1346
00:54:29,411 --> 00:54:31,213
She knew
I was looking for her.
1347
00:54:31,246 --> 00:54:32,913
They didn't do
a damn thing in those days
1348
00:54:32,947 --> 00:54:34,349
with somebody
stealin' your kid.
1349
00:54:34,383 --> 00:54:36,784
So, be honest.
1350
00:54:37,419 --> 00:54:39,153
How'd you like the movie?
1351
00:54:39,187 --> 00:54:41,423
Well,
Eastwood was dreamy
1352
00:54:41,456 --> 00:54:43,791
and I like a little violence.
1353
00:54:43,824 --> 00:54:46,761
The baby doesn't
really like the violence.
1354
00:54:46,794 --> 00:54:49,730
[Wayne] Oh, honey.
You seem cold.
1355
00:54:49,764 --> 00:54:53,801
♪
1356
00:54:53,834 --> 00:54:55,102
And about the violence.
1357
00:54:55,136 --> 00:54:57,339
Just like Dirty Harry,
1358
00:54:57,372 --> 00:54:59,140
I'm gonna keep you. .
1359
00:55:00,309 --> 00:55:03,878
and this baby safe forever.
1360
00:55:03,911 --> 00:55:05,713
Don't you worry.
1361
00:55:05,746 --> 00:55:07,882
I love you, Wayne Shannon.
1362
00:55:07,915 --> 00:55:09,917
[Wayne] I love you,
Romana Lisa Capps.
1363
00:55:13,488 --> 00:55:16,391
Wayne Shannon,
you're a dead man.
1364
00:55:21,396 --> 00:55:24,399
They tried to talk to me,
my cousins and stuff,
1365
00:55:24,433 --> 00:55:26,067
and I just couldn't take it.
1366
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:29,070
I was just. . madly in love
with this woman.
1367
00:55:29,970 --> 00:55:31,205
Had a baby by her.
1368
00:55:32,173 --> 00:55:33,708
And, uh, we split up.
1369
00:55:34,108 --> 00:55:37,279
His, uh,
wife at the time had left him
1370
00:55:37,312 --> 00:55:38,879
and then had actually stated
1371
00:55:38,913 --> 00:55:41,450
that the child
that they had together,
1372
00:55:41,483 --> 00:55:43,784
or that he assumed
they had together,
1373
00:55:43,818 --> 00:55:45,487
probably wasn't his.
1374
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,956
And I think that at that time,
he. . he lost his mind,
1375
00:55:48,989 --> 00:55:50,991
the wheels came off
at that point.
1376
00:55:51,025 --> 00:55:52,327
-[young Rodney snorts]
-[Marty] Hey, I couldn't find
1377
00:55:52,361 --> 00:55:54,396
your car, man. .
Holy shit.
1378
00:55:54,429 --> 00:55:57,532
-[young Rodney coughs]
-You all right, man?
1379
00:55:57,566 --> 00:55:59,834
[young Rodney] Oh. . yeah.
1380
00:55:59,867 --> 00:56:01,235
What the fuck's goin' on?
1381
00:56:02,803 --> 00:56:05,906
[young Rodney]
Well, Romana came down.
1382
00:56:07,376 --> 00:56:10,379
And, uh,
she's leavin' me.
1383
00:56:13,814 --> 00:56:15,082
Sneaking around
with Wayne Shannon.
1384
00:56:18,119 --> 00:56:19,820
Yeah.
1385
00:56:19,854 --> 00:56:22,156
[exhales] So. . [chuckles]
1386
00:56:23,090 --> 00:56:27,295
I have devised a plan
and with your help
1387
00:56:27,329 --> 00:56:29,398
it's gonna work
and I'll get her back.
1388
00:56:29,431 --> 00:56:32,266
Honestly. Let it go.
1389
00:56:32,300 --> 00:56:34,001
I've never heard
of a broad changing her mind
1390
00:56:34,034 --> 00:56:36,003
after stepping out
with a new man.
1391
00:56:37,271 --> 00:56:38,573
[snorting]
1392
00:56:38,607 --> 00:56:40,141
[Marty] Maybe you're hitting
that shit too hard, man.
1393
00:56:40,174 --> 00:56:41,776
Oh, wow.
1394
00:56:42,843 --> 00:56:44,812
Says my drug dealer.
1395
00:56:44,845 --> 00:56:46,847
What, overnight
you grew a conscience?
1396
00:56:46,881 --> 00:56:49,784
Huh? You grew a fuckin' pair
of balls?
1397
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,389
Fuck you, Marty.
Get down here.
1398
00:56:54,423 --> 00:56:56,857
-Have some of this with me.
-I'm good.
1399
00:56:56,891 --> 00:56:58,826
[young Rodney]
Oh, you're good? Yeah.
1400
00:56:58,859 --> 00:57:01,095
You know,
I fuckin' had your back
1401
00:57:01,128 --> 00:57:03,030
-through it all.
-[Rodney mumbles]
1402
00:57:03,063 --> 00:57:04,932
I've fuckin'
been there for you.
1403
00:57:04,965 --> 00:57:06,033
But I'm not fuckin'
doin' this shit
1404
00:57:06,066 --> 00:57:08,035
and I'm not goin' down
this fuckin' road with you.
1405
00:57:08,537 --> 00:57:10,137
What fuckin' road?
1406
00:57:10,171 --> 00:57:11,406
This fuckin' road with me
1407
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:12,873
and the woman I love,
Romana?
1408
00:57:12,907 --> 00:57:14,875
It's not fuckin'
about Romana!
1409
00:57:14,909 --> 00:57:17,211
It's never been about Romana,
it's about these fuckin' drugs.
1410
00:57:17,244 --> 00:57:19,280
That are killing you!
1411
00:57:19,313 --> 00:57:21,550
And I'm not gonna be here
to see that.
1412
00:57:21,583 --> 00:57:23,585
You're not there
for much, are you, Marty?
1413
00:57:25,554 --> 00:57:27,321
Chicken shit.
1414
00:57:27,355 --> 00:57:29,591
Your chicken shit ideas,
1415
00:57:29,624 --> 00:57:31,892
and you're
a chicken shit lackey.
1416
00:57:33,327 --> 00:57:36,130
So, by all means, go fuck off.
1417
00:57:36,163 --> 00:57:38,966
Out the front door.
And go home.
1418
00:57:39,967 --> 00:57:42,136
All right.
1419
00:57:42,169 --> 00:57:44,171
Call me if you need me.
1420
00:57:44,205 --> 00:57:46,140
You know where the fuck I am.
Been there the last 20 years.
1421
00:57:46,173 --> 00:57:48,075
-Uh-huh. Mmm.
-For you.
1422
00:57:50,978 --> 00:57:52,514
See you at
Thanksgiving, asshole!
1423
00:57:52,547 --> 00:57:54,114
[door slams shut]
1424
00:57:59,421 --> 00:58:01,255
[snorting & coughing]
1425
00:58:01,288 --> 00:58:03,123
[Marty]
After the Romana split,
1426
00:58:03,157 --> 00:58:04,626
I'd never seen him like that.
1427
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:07,294
He. . he wasn't Rodney anymore.
1428
00:58:08,530 --> 00:58:09,964
He wasn't the Rodney I know.
1429
00:58:11,265 --> 00:58:12,567
And that dude's
the craziest guy,
1430
00:58:12,601 --> 00:58:14,368
so to be at that point, for me,
1431
00:58:14,402 --> 00:58:16,370
I didn't even know
how to have his back.
1432
00:58:16,404 --> 00:58:18,239
I didn't know how
to support him.
1433
00:58:18,272 --> 00:58:21,108
So, at that moment
in time. .
1434
00:58:22,009 --> 00:58:23,277
Rodney could've done anything.
1435
00:58:24,345 --> 00:58:25,514
Anything was possible.
1436
00:58:26,481 --> 00:58:29,083
[ominous music plays]
1437
00:58:38,593 --> 00:58:41,962
[Rodney] I was up for four days
on criss-cross speed.
1438
00:58:41,996 --> 00:58:44,432
Uh, had suicidal, uh,
tendencies,
1439
00:58:44,466 --> 00:58:46,000
I had the suitcase
1440
00:58:46,033 --> 00:58:47,569
with the flares,
like, dynamite.
1441
00:58:47,602 --> 00:58:49,270
I was gonna force her
to go with me,
1442
00:58:49,303 --> 00:58:50,337
no matter which way
you look at it.
1443
00:58:50,371 --> 00:58:56,010
♪
1444
00:59:15,730 --> 00:59:18,065
[interviewer] What were you
wearing that day?
1445
00:59:18,098 --> 00:59:19,266
[Rodney]
I wore a sports jacket,
1446
00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:21,435
penny loafers, black tie,
1447
00:59:21,469 --> 00:59:25,072
a tie clasp
with a round stone in it.
1448
00:59:25,105 --> 00:59:26,508
[interviewer]
Why were you wearing a suit?
1449
00:59:26,541 --> 00:59:27,709
[Rodney]
I wanted to impress my, uh,
1450
00:59:27,742 --> 00:59:29,511
wife when I picked her up.
1451
00:59:29,544 --> 00:59:35,082
♪
1452
00:59:43,725 --> 00:59:45,459
I drove over
to her mother's house
1453
00:59:45,493 --> 00:59:47,394
and asked her
where she was at
1454
00:59:47,428 --> 00:59:49,063
and she said that
she just left in her Javelin
1455
00:59:49,096 --> 00:59:52,066
to go down
to Portland at the mall
1456
00:59:52,099 --> 00:59:54,168
and I figured, well,
I'd just go ahead
1457
00:59:54,201 --> 00:59:57,471
try to catch her at the mall
so I could talk to her and,
1458
00:59:57,505 --> 01:00:00,207
uh, drove from Seattle
Federal Way to. . to Portland.
1459
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,176
I parked my car in the loop.
1460
01:00:02,209 --> 01:00:03,678
[interviewer] So, you're saying
that you were suicidal,
1461
01:00:03,712 --> 01:00:06,781
so you went
to go take her hostage?
1462
01:00:06,815 --> 01:00:08,783
[Rodney] Yes, I did.
I was gonna do it.
1463
01:00:08,817 --> 01:00:10,417
[interviewer] And that was
a very serious thought
1464
01:00:10,451 --> 01:00:11,586
-in your mind?
-[Rodney] Yes.
1465
01:00:11,620 --> 01:00:15,456
♪
1466
01:00:18,593 --> 01:00:21,261
[Rodney] I took a taxi
from there to the mall.
1467
01:00:21,295 --> 01:00:23,364
Jameson Beach mall,
and step on it already.
1468
01:00:23,397 --> 01:00:26,133
[Rodney] But she wasn't there,
missed her by 20 minutes.
1469
01:00:26,166 --> 01:00:27,769
Plan B was
to get ahead of her,
1470
01:00:27,802 --> 01:00:29,704
so I'd take an airplane back.
1471
01:00:29,738 --> 01:00:31,606
Right away I was worried,
I just left the car,
1472
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,340
took a cab from the air. .
1473
01:00:33,374 --> 01:00:36,276
from there, the mall,
to the airport.
1474
01:00:36,310 --> 01:00:38,312
Got to the airport,
I asked him how much
1475
01:00:38,345 --> 01:00:41,148
it'd be to ride coach
to Seattle and they said $20.
1476
01:00:41,181 --> 01:00:43,017
I signed my name Dan Cooper.
1477
01:00:43,685 --> 01:00:46,253
[Mike] Anytime y. . you start
digging into something
1478
01:00:46,286 --> 01:00:47,656
that happened in the past,
1479
01:00:47,689 --> 01:00:49,390
there are a lot of
different things
1480
01:00:49,423 --> 01:00:51,058
that could or couldn't
have happened,
1481
01:00:51,091 --> 01:00:53,595
and as time grows, you. . you. .
1482
01:00:53,628 --> 01:00:56,598
those facts are more difficult
to uncover.
1483
01:00:56,631 --> 01:00:59,266
Sometimes it. . it. . it's
left with a question mark.
1484
01:00:59,299 --> 01:01:02,136
After being presented
with what he gave us,
1485
01:01:02,169 --> 01:01:04,505
we're convinced enough
to at least move forward
1486
01:01:04,538 --> 01:01:07,341
with this because, whether the
story is true or not,
1487
01:01:07,374 --> 01:01:08,710
it. . it's an adventure.
1488
01:01:08,743 --> 01:01:09,778
And we went
on a treasure hunt.
1489
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,650
[Wes] We're gonna pass,
like, some sort of,
1490
01:01:15,684 --> 01:01:18,853
like, industrial area,
which is where,
1491
01:01:18,887 --> 01:01:22,156
on some YouTube video,
they dropped a pin that said
1492
01:01:22,189 --> 01:01:24,158
"DB money found," like,
around that area.
1493
01:01:24,191 --> 01:01:25,526
[man] That's what
I'm saying Tena Bar is. .
1494
01:01:25,559 --> 01:01:26,861
[Wes] Right, right.
1495
01:01:26,895 --> 01:01:28,462
[Mike] Yeah, it's called
Tena Bar,
1496
01:01:28,495 --> 01:01:29,731
and it. . it's located
on several maps
1497
01:01:29,764 --> 01:01:31,565
so we're trying to, uh,
convert,
1498
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:35,436
you know, screenshots
over to an actual GPS map
1499
01:01:35,469 --> 01:01:38,138
and, uh, figured out
where it was.
1500
01:01:38,172 --> 01:01:39,874
[Wes] DB was talkin' about
a little cove
1501
01:01:39,908 --> 01:01:41,575
that he buried the money at
1502
01:01:41,609 --> 01:01:43,645
and we think
that's the cove right there.
1503
01:01:43,678 --> 01:01:45,212
[man]
Outside the cove.
1504
01:01:45,245 --> 01:01:47,581
So we'll be able
to park on the road
1505
01:01:47,615 --> 01:01:50,484
or maybe even closer,
pop down, and. .
1506
01:01:51,552 --> 01:01:53,187
theoretically get it.
1507
01:01:53,220 --> 01:01:55,657
[Mike] This is, um,
a geographic area
1508
01:01:55,690 --> 01:01:57,391
that is. .
it's very, very, rural.
1509
01:01:57,424 --> 01:02:00,160
Flat and open and it has
a lot of growth,
1510
01:02:00,194 --> 01:02:01,696
there's no malls out there.
1511
01:02:01,730 --> 01:02:03,798
[Rodney] Road closed.
-[man] Well, this is us.
1512
01:02:03,832 --> 01:02:05,667
[Carlos] As we pull up
to the end of the road,
1513
01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:07,836
we have the anticipation,
as you're starting,
1514
01:02:07,869 --> 01:02:10,437
that you might
actually dig up,
1515
01:02:10,471 --> 01:02:12,272
you know, $190,000.
1516
01:02:12,306 --> 01:02:14,241
You know,
a 48 year mystery solved,
1517
01:02:14,274 --> 01:02:16,143
you know,
in a handful of hours.
1518
01:02:16,176 --> 01:02:17,544
[interviewer]
How're you feeling?
1519
01:02:17,578 --> 01:02:19,480
I'm optimistic, but still. .
1520
01:02:19,513 --> 01:02:22,583
I have to be a realist.
If it's there, though.
1521
01:02:22,616 --> 01:02:25,653
He says he can find it,
so we're gonna give it a go.
1522
01:02:25,687 --> 01:02:27,588
The money they
did find right down there. .
1523
01:02:27,621 --> 01:02:30,357
Yeah. We're looking at
the cove that he had identified
1524
01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:32,392
as a landmark to where he. .
1525
01:02:32,426 --> 01:02:33,762
[man] How far is it away?
1526
01:02:33,795 --> 01:02:35,596
[man 2] Like, 900 feet,
it's close.
1527
01:02:35,629 --> 01:02:37,164
[Mike] Well, let's gear up,
let's get all the stuff
1528
01:02:37,197 --> 01:02:39,233
we need for, uh,
hoofing here
1529
01:02:39,266 --> 01:02:41,301
and anything we need
to dig it out.
1530
01:02:41,335 --> 01:02:42,636
I mean, let's do it.
1531
01:02:42,670 --> 01:02:44,138
If it's there, we're
gonna find it right now.
1532
01:02:44,973 --> 01:02:46,808
Carry the money out there.
1533
01:02:46,841 --> 01:02:49,543
[Mike] When they were
getting out of the vehicle,
1534
01:02:49,576 --> 01:02:50,879
they grabbed a duffel bag
1535
01:02:50,912 --> 01:02:52,714
and then
a backpack that was empty,
1536
01:02:52,747 --> 01:02:54,548
not one single thing in it
and I could hear them
1537
01:02:54,581 --> 01:02:56,550
talkin', sayin', "We'll
just put the money in this. "
1538
01:02:56,583 --> 01:02:58,519
Why would they do that
unless they really felt
1539
01:02:58,552 --> 01:02:59,687
there was money out there?
1540
01:02:59,721 --> 01:03:01,221
Because we had backpacks,
1541
01:03:01,255 --> 01:03:02,690
we could've easily
carried it out.
1542
01:03:02,724 --> 01:03:04,726
But instead they had
an empty backpack,
1543
01:03:04,759 --> 01:03:06,861
so that was part of the. .
one of the times
1544
01:03:06,895 --> 01:03:09,496
when I thought,
"Well, this. . this is real
1545
01:03:09,530 --> 01:03:10,899
and we might find
this money. "
1546
01:03:10,932 --> 01:03:12,633
So, are you
guys armed right now?
1547
01:03:12,666 --> 01:03:13,968
Are you guys carryin'?
1548
01:03:14,002 --> 01:03:15,502
[Rodney] Don. Don was. .
1549
01:03:15,536 --> 01:03:17,337
Are you guys
carrying a weapon?
1550
01:03:17,371 --> 01:03:18,773
Well, I don't think
we need it out here, do we?
1551
01:03:18,807 --> 01:03:20,340
No, we don't,
I was just makin' sure
1552
01:03:20,374 --> 01:03:21,743
that we're all safe
and we're all on the same page.
1553
01:03:21,776 --> 01:03:22,777
Oh, yeah.
1554
01:03:22,811 --> 01:03:24,879
He gets on a shootin' spree,
he might not quit.
1555
01:03:24,913 --> 01:03:25,914
Well, I only brought
one clip. .
1556
01:03:25,947 --> 01:03:27,514
Cameramen are next!
1557
01:03:27,548 --> 01:03:29,416
[chattering
& laughter continues]
1558
01:03:29,449 --> 01:03:31,853
Let's go get the money!
1559
01:03:31,886 --> 01:03:33,554
[interviewer]
How're you feelin' right now?
1560
01:03:33,587 --> 01:03:35,857
Real good.
I'm gonna go dig my money up.
1561
01:03:35,890 --> 01:03:38,458
The main thing is
I didn't harm nobody.
1562
01:03:38,492 --> 01:03:42,429
I just got the money.
I never was gonna harm nobody.
1563
01:03:42,462 --> 01:03:44,833
A little dynamite don't scare
anybody, does it?
1564
01:03:44,866 --> 01:03:47,367
[Rodney cackles] It does.
1565
01:03:48,002 --> 01:03:49,871
When you're way up
in the air.
1566
01:03:49,904 --> 01:03:51,238
[interviewer]
What was your intention
1567
01:03:51,271 --> 01:03:52,706
getting on that plane?
1568
01:03:52,740 --> 01:03:53,908
[Rodney] Getting on
that plane was to,
1569
01:03:53,942 --> 01:03:56,577
uh. . uh,
get ahead of her.
1570
01:03:57,078 --> 01:03:58,780
Well, things escalated.
1571
01:03:59,279 --> 01:04:01,682
I said I might as well
get some cash
1572
01:04:01,715 --> 01:04:03,985
and do a quick robbery
1573
01:04:04,018 --> 01:04:06,353
and, uh,
that's when I realized
1574
01:04:06,386 --> 01:04:08,890
that I had
the suitcase anyway,
1575
01:04:08,923 --> 01:04:11,491
that I would go ahead
and use that suitcase
1576
01:04:11,525 --> 01:04:13,527
as a bomb threat
and take the plane over.
1577
01:04:30,711 --> 01:04:32,346
Ladies and gentlemen,
my name is Tina
1578
01:04:32,379 --> 01:04:33,781
and I'm your chief
flight attendant.
1579
01:04:33,815 --> 01:04:35,649
We go back and forth
up the coast,
1580
01:04:35,682 --> 01:04:38,853
I. . it was just like
any normal flight.
1581
01:04:38,887 --> 01:04:40,687
Done it 1,000 times.
1582
01:04:40,721 --> 01:04:42,389
[Tina over PA]
I'd like to welcome you aboard
1583
01:04:42,422 --> 01:04:45,392
Northwest Orient 727
nonstop service
1584
01:04:45,425 --> 01:04:47,028
from Portland to Seattle.
1585
01:04:47,061 --> 01:04:48,963
At this time,
we'd like to ask you to. .
1586
01:04:48,997 --> 01:04:50,464
-[stewardess] Here you go.
-[Young Rodney] Thank you.
1587
01:04:51,698 --> 01:04:53,467
Is everything all right?
1588
01:04:53,500 --> 01:04:56,905
Yeah, uh, I lost my wife.
1589
01:04:56,938 --> 01:04:58,772
Oh, I'm so sorry.
1590
01:04:58,806 --> 01:05:00,507
[young Rodney]
But, you know what, Flo,
1591
01:05:00,540 --> 01:05:02,442
I think that everything
is gonna be all right.
1592
01:05:02,476 --> 01:05:04,378
You just keep those drinks
comin' . [chuckles]
1593
01:05:04,411 --> 01:05:05,880
and at the end
of this flight
1594
01:05:05,914 --> 01:05:07,547
I'm gonna have a nice,
big tip for ya.
1595
01:05:07,581 --> 01:05:09,316
-Oh, okay.
-[Tina] Flo came and got me
1596
01:05:09,349 --> 01:05:11,920
and said that there was a. .
1597
01:05:11,953 --> 01:05:14,554
disturbing passenger in 18E.
1598
01:05:15,189 --> 01:05:17,491
I thought
I'd go by and take a look.
1599
01:05:17,524 --> 01:05:18,993
Excuse me.
1600
01:05:19,593 --> 01:05:22,030
Oh, did you want me
to give this to Flo?
1601
01:05:22,063 --> 01:05:23,932
I know you've
been hot on her tail.
1602
01:05:23,965 --> 01:05:26,767
[laughing] No, no, no.
Um, that's quite all right.
1603
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,569
That's. . that's for you.
1604
01:05:29,603 --> 01:05:31,571
[Tina] Oh,
you're not very picky, are you?
1605
01:05:31,605 --> 01:05:33,774
I'm flattered, but married.
1606
01:05:36,110 --> 01:05:37,678
I think
you'd better take a good,
1607
01:05:37,711 --> 01:05:39,546
-long look at that note.
-[Tina] Okay.
1608
01:05:44,118 --> 01:05:46,453
[Rodney] She read the note
and then I went and flashed
1609
01:05:46,486 --> 01:05:48,722
the suitcase in front of her
and kinda looked at me
1610
01:05:48,755 --> 01:05:51,758
and stuttered all the way up
to the. . fast as she could.
1611
01:05:52,459 --> 01:05:55,329
[pilot 1]
Auto coming on. Okay.
1612
01:05:56,898 --> 01:05:58,365
Is everything all right?
1613
01:06:02,836 --> 01:06:05,672
"$200,000 in negotiable
1614
01:06:05,706 --> 01:06:09,810
American currency
and. . four parachutes
1615
01:06:09,843 --> 01:06:11,645
or this plane blows.
[chuckles]
1616
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,849
Too bad it's Thanksgiving
and not April Fools. [chuckles]
1617
01:06:15,883 --> 01:06:17,584
-[Pilot] Yeah, right?
-Who put you up to this?
1618
01:06:17,617 --> 01:06:19,120
The passenger in 18E.
1619
01:06:19,921 --> 01:06:21,355
This isn't a joke, sir.
1620
01:06:22,723 --> 01:06:24,391
Let me see that thing.
1621
01:06:29,163 --> 01:06:31,431
It smells like whiskey.
1622
01:06:31,465 --> 01:06:32,699
You know,
I'll tell you what.
1623
01:06:32,733 --> 01:06:35,736
Here,
you tell 007 back there
1624
01:06:35,769 --> 01:06:37,571
if he wants to earn
his wings,
1625
01:06:37,604 --> 01:06:39,974
he can come up here
and ask me next time, okay?
1626
01:06:40,008 --> 01:06:41,408
He showed me the bomb,
captain.
1627
01:06:42,442 --> 01:06:43,911
I think
this is really happening.
1628
01:06:44,678 --> 01:06:45,879
[Pilot] Oh, shit.
1629
01:06:46,446 --> 01:06:49,117
Who the hell hijacks a plane
on a 30-minute flight?
1630
01:06:49,850 --> 01:06:51,852
That's the craziest
thing I've ever heard.
1631
01:06:53,620 --> 01:06:54,989
All right,
punch in the Squawk Code
1632
01:06:55,023 --> 01:06:56,690
and, uh, make the call.
1633
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,894
Metro tower, this is
1634
01:07:00,928 --> 01:07:03,730
Northwest Orient flight 305.
1635
01:07:04,564 --> 01:07:06,800
We have a. . situation.
1636
01:07:08,568 --> 01:07:09,703
[Pilot] Yeah, we do.
1637
01:07:09,736 --> 01:07:10,972
All right, auto coming off.
1638
01:07:12,706 --> 01:07:14,708
Okay, everybody,
could we settle down, please?
1639
01:07:14,741 --> 01:07:16,610
Please, quiet,
we. . we don't have
1640
01:07:16,643 --> 01:07:18,545
a lot of time here, guys,
so we're on limited time.
1641
01:07:18,578 --> 01:07:20,948
Thank you.
Um, first question.
1642
01:07:20,982 --> 01:07:22,682
[reporter 1]
Was there ever any attempt
1643
01:07:22,716 --> 01:07:24,751
to dissuade him
or refuse his orders?
1644
01:07:24,785 --> 01:07:26,520
[Co-pilot clears throat]
1645
01:07:26,553 --> 01:07:28,956
The safety
of the crew is paramount
1646
01:07:28,990 --> 01:07:30,891
in a situation like that.
1647
01:07:30,924 --> 01:07:33,827
We were honoring
his requests
1648
01:07:33,860 --> 01:07:36,630
and therefore
made no attempt
1649
01:07:36,663 --> 01:07:40,700
to impede his mission,
per se.
1650
01:07:40,734 --> 01:07:43,037
[Rodney]
Well, I went up to the pilot,
1651
01:07:43,071 --> 01:07:45,705
he was telling me, uh, what. .
what they were gonna do.
1652
01:07:45,739 --> 01:07:47,241
They'll have the money.
1653
01:07:47,275 --> 01:07:48,942
And I said,
for a good gesture,
1654
01:07:48,976 --> 01:07:50,644
I'll let everybody
off the plane.
1655
01:07:50,677 --> 01:07:52,512
And, uh, meanwhile,
I'm talking
1656
01:07:52,546 --> 01:07:54,148
to the sheriff's department
and they said,
1657
01:07:54,182 --> 01:07:55,849
uh, they got two 'chutes
from McCord airport base
1658
01:07:55,882 --> 01:07:57,218
and they got two
from somewhere else.
1659
01:07:57,251 --> 01:07:58,952
One's for green,
one's for brown.
1660
01:07:58,986 --> 01:08:00,954
So, I took the green one
because I knew
1661
01:08:00,988 --> 01:08:03,191
that the air force packed 'em
and I wasn't gonna die.
1662
01:08:03,224 --> 01:08:05,093
I didn't wanna harm anybody.
1663
01:08:05,126 --> 01:08:06,994
I didn't have any dynamite
in that suitcase,
1664
01:08:07,028 --> 01:08:09,563
it was all flares
and. . and an alarm clock.
1665
01:08:09,596 --> 01:08:11,065
[laughs]
I didn't mean anybody harm,
1666
01:08:11,099 --> 01:08:12,799
but it was too late
to back out.
1667
01:08:12,833 --> 01:08:14,668
After we secured
the money and the parachute,
1668
01:08:14,701 --> 01:08:18,172
we took off from Seattle
and then he asked us to lower
1669
01:08:18,206 --> 01:08:20,574
our airspeed and our altitude,
which we did.
1670
01:08:20,607 --> 01:08:22,076
[young Rodney]
All right, fellas,
1671
01:08:22,110 --> 01:08:23,944
I'm gonna need you
to take this thing down
1672
01:08:23,977 --> 01:08:25,512
to about 10,000 feet
1673
01:08:25,545 --> 01:08:26,746
and slow it down
to about 100 knots.
1674
01:08:27,581 --> 01:08:29,883
But, sir,
it's inclement weather here.
1675
01:08:29,916 --> 01:08:31,818
Just. . just. .
I know what this bird can do,
1676
01:08:31,852 --> 01:08:34,155
just, please,
follow my request.
1677
01:08:34,188 --> 01:08:38,126
Tina. Sweet Tina.
1678
01:08:38,859 --> 01:08:40,861
I'm gonna have to
have you stay up here now.
1679
01:08:40,894 --> 01:08:42,529
I don't wanna see
you get hurt.
1680
01:08:43,231 --> 01:08:44,798
I don't wanna see
anybody get hurt.
1681
01:08:44,831 --> 01:08:46,533
[reporter 2]
And what was he like?
1682
01:08:46,566 --> 01:08:48,269
How was his demeanor
during the ordeal?
1683
01:08:48,302 --> 01:08:49,870
Well,
he was rather nice.
1684
01:08:50,704 --> 01:08:53,274
Other than he wanted
certain things done.
1685
01:08:53,307 --> 01:08:55,742
He was never cruel or nasty.
1686
01:08:56,977 --> 01:08:58,645
He even ordered
a second bourbon
1687
01:08:58,678 --> 01:08:59,913
and paid his drink tab.
1688
01:09:00,947 --> 01:09:03,050
He even tried to tip me.
[chuckles]
1689
01:09:07,988 --> 01:09:11,691
♪ He's the leader
of the band ♪
1690
01:09:13,727 --> 01:09:18,765
♪ Takes strides
against his enemies ♪
1691
01:09:18,798 --> 01:09:24,604
♪ Down coke-filled hallways ♪
1692
01:09:24,638 --> 01:09:27,674
♪ Against
what his mother said ♪
1693
01:09:30,610 --> 01:09:33,247
♪ Blonde hair, blue eyed ♪
1694
01:09:35,615 --> 01:09:41,021
♪ An angel in the daylight ♪
1695
01:09:41,054 --> 01:09:43,056
♪ Come night,
he's three tabs deep ♪
1696
01:09:43,090 --> 01:09:46,626
♪ And senseless ♪
1697
01:09:46,660 --> 01:09:51,199
♪ Against
the face of violence. . ♪
1698
01:09:51,232 --> 01:09:53,733
[reporter 3] Given
the conditions of the jump,
1699
01:09:53,767 --> 01:09:55,802
do you think
he could've survived?
1700
01:09:55,835 --> 01:09:57,271
Um. . [chuckles]
1701
01:09:57,305 --> 01:09:59,106
without any training?
1702
01:09:59,140 --> 01:10:01,142
Uh, I think his chances
were between slim and none.
1703
01:10:04,878 --> 01:10:10,151
♪ Oh,
I see myself free falling ♪
1704
01:10:10,184 --> 01:10:13,954
♪ Being
the woman to his addiction ♪
1705
01:10:13,987 --> 01:10:19,327
♪
1706
01:10:40,214 --> 01:10:42,849
[Rodney] I went right
down on the Columbia River.
1707
01:10:42,882 --> 01:10:46,987
I left $5,880 on the beach
and I took 300 more out
1708
01:10:47,020 --> 01:10:49,423
and I went forth and buried
the other part on the way out.
1709
01:10:49,457 --> 01:10:55,162
♪
1710
01:11:13,847 --> 01:11:18,985
♪ Oh, baby, baby,
baby, baby, baby ♪
1711
01:11:19,019 --> 01:11:23,957
♪ Hold me, hold me,
hold me, hold me, baby ♪
1712
01:11:27,461 --> 01:11:31,731
[young Rodney grunting
& log thudding]
1713
01:11:31,765 --> 01:11:35,702
♪ Oh, no, no, no, no, no ♪
1714
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,310
[laughing]
1715
01:11:49,417 --> 01:11:52,253
[music fades]
1716
01:11:52,286 --> 01:11:54,221
[Mike] When we got out there,
you know,
1717
01:11:54,255 --> 01:11:56,357
it's a matter of. . kind of
getting, uh, a feel
1718
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:59,360
of the geographic area
and then following his lead
1719
01:11:59,393 --> 01:12:02,330
by where he described
the money being buried.
1720
01:12:02,363 --> 01:12:06,233
And so from the gate's location
is it to the south?
1721
01:12:06,267 --> 01:12:08,802
[Rodney] Wherever that money
that I buried the first time. .
1722
01:12:09,503 --> 01:12:12,105
I go from there,
down to the cove,
1723
01:12:12,138 --> 01:12:14,040
there's a great
big black onyx rock.
1724
01:12:14,074 --> 01:12:15,975
That's where
I buried the money.
1725
01:12:16,009 --> 01:12:17,777
Just off to the main track
where they ride motorcycles?
1726
01:12:17,811 --> 01:12:19,480
-[Rodney] Yeah.
-[Mike] Okay.
1727
01:12:19,513 --> 01:12:21,248
[Mike] He was all on board
and knew that it was there.
1728
01:12:21,282 --> 01:12:22,516
That wasn't a question,
it was. .
1729
01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:24,452
it's there
and we just need to find it.
1730
01:12:24,485 --> 01:12:26,454
Holy shit,
it's all grown-in
1731
01:12:26,487 --> 01:12:28,255
48 years later.
1732
01:12:28,988 --> 01:12:31,024
We're comin'
straight through the woods.
1733
01:12:31,057 --> 01:12:32,493
[Rodney] Where I put
the first money was down there
1734
01:12:32,526 --> 01:12:34,060
and I climbed over
a barbed-wire fence
1735
01:12:34,094 --> 01:12:36,930
and cut my pants
and came over on a hill.
1736
01:12:37,565 --> 01:12:40,967
Then I followed it out
this way toward Woodland.
1737
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,436
-[Mike] Right, right.
-[Rodney] The lights
1738
01:12:42,470 --> 01:12:44,104
[Mike]
He came up over a berm.
1739
01:12:44,705 --> 01:12:48,309
And then there was
a dirt road. .
1740
01:12:48,342 --> 01:12:50,143
a sandy dirt road.
1741
01:12:50,176 --> 01:12:53,079
So, if this is that dirt road,
we gotta be close
1742
01:12:53,113 --> 01:12:56,283
because that bay
is right over there.
1743
01:12:56,983 --> 01:12:59,052
All this new growth
can cover up something
1744
01:12:59,085 --> 01:13:00,887
that's five,
six feet tall, easily.
1745
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,356
[man over radio]
Where are you?
1746
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:04,190
Give me
a little bit of reference.
1747
01:13:04,224 --> 01:13:05,959
-[walkie-talkie beeps]
-Well, we're moving faster
1748
01:13:05,992 --> 01:13:07,794
than you we. . we're moving
south on the road.
1749
01:13:07,827 --> 01:13:09,296
If you guys get up north
on that little area over here. .
1750
01:13:09,330 --> 01:13:10,930
[interviewer] How you feelin'?
1751
01:13:10,964 --> 01:13:13,367
Uh, he's just kind of
dialing it in.
1752
01:13:13,401 --> 01:13:15,235
I. . I feel optimistic
right now.
1753
01:13:16,537 --> 01:13:18,539
Walked up further,
went further north,
1754
01:13:18,572 --> 01:13:20,374
and he insists
that it's way above
1755
01:13:20,408 --> 01:13:23,009
the flood stage and. . and. .
and tidal influence.
1756
01:13:23,042 --> 01:13:25,011
And found, what I thought,
was a really good
1757
01:13:25,044 --> 01:13:26,880
potential target area.
1758
01:13:26,913 --> 01:13:28,848
There's a really cool
area up here
1759
01:13:28,882 --> 01:13:31,585
where it does have a high berm
and it definitely would be
1760
01:13:31,619 --> 01:13:34,321
probably above flood stage
and tide stage.
1761
01:13:34,355 --> 01:13:35,889
So, check out. . you know,
'cause he said
1762
01:13:35,922 --> 01:13:37,324
there was a distinctive berm.
1763
01:13:37,358 --> 01:13:39,058
-Look how this comes up.
-[Mike] Yeah.
1764
01:13:39,092 --> 01:13:41,261
It's all sand
but when you get up on there
1765
01:13:41,294 --> 01:13:43,597
it's full of, uh, old,
1766
01:13:43,631 --> 01:13:47,133
uh, RV
or off-road vehicle tracks.
1767
01:13:47,167 --> 01:13:48,469
-Yeah.
-With access
1768
01:13:48,502 --> 01:13:50,270
right here to the road.
1769
01:13:50,303 --> 01:13:51,971
[Mike] It does fit
the description of the area.
1770
01:13:52,005 --> 01:13:53,840
And then he did say
he followed it out.
1771
01:13:53,873 --> 01:13:56,075
-[Carlos] Yeah.
-So he buried it
1772
01:13:56,109 --> 01:13:58,077
and then saw. .
1773
01:13:58,111 --> 01:14:01,114
tracks, motorcycle. .
whatever that came back out.
1774
01:14:01,147 --> 01:14:03,350
So this could
be where he came out.
1775
01:14:03,384 --> 01:14:05,318
[Rodney]
If I follow those tracks out,
1776
01:14:05,352 --> 01:14:07,220
I should be
able to get to a road
1777
01:14:07,253 --> 01:14:11,191
and I did, I walked out
and got to the main road
1778
01:14:11,224 --> 01:14:12,859
and then
this cowboy picks me up.
1779
01:14:12,892 --> 01:14:15,128
[country music plays]
1780
01:14:21,569 --> 01:14:24,237
[cowboy] Ooh-ooh-ooh!
You just party out there, man?
1781
01:14:26,474 --> 01:14:28,308
[young Rodney]
Somethin' like that.
1782
01:14:28,341 --> 01:14:30,276
[cowboy] Well, hop in, huh?
1783
01:14:32,078 --> 01:14:33,647
[Rodney] And if it wasn't
for that cowboy
1784
01:14:33,681 --> 01:14:36,316
that picked me up
drinkin' alcohol,
1785
01:14:36,349 --> 01:14:38,519
headin' to a bar in Woodland,
I would've never made it,
1786
01:14:38,552 --> 01:14:40,220
I don't think.
1787
01:14:40,253 --> 01:14:41,589
You have no idea
how much I appreciate this.
1788
01:14:42,590 --> 01:14:45,291
Here. For the trouble.
1789
01:14:45,325 --> 01:14:48,395
[cowboy] Hey, appreciate!
See you down the road, hoss.
1790
01:14:48,429 --> 01:14:49,996
[Rodney] Rode me up
to Piggly Wiggly's,
1791
01:14:50,029 --> 01:14:51,898
he says,
"Hurry up, get in there,
1792
01:14:51,931 --> 01:14:53,501
you get your shoes 'cause they
close at ten. "
1793
01:14:53,534 --> 01:14:55,536
And I went across
the street and down
1794
01:14:55,569 --> 01:14:57,203
this alley 'cause there's
a phone booth right there.
1795
01:14:57,237 --> 01:14:58,938
Called a taxi to bring me back
to Portland, Oregon.
1796
01:14:58,972 --> 01:15:02,041
♪ You help me baby ♪
1797
01:15:02,075 --> 01:15:04,210
♪ Said you got
your misgivings ♪
1798
01:15:06,012 --> 01:15:08,582
♪ But I'm out here
day to day ♪
1799
01:15:08,616 --> 01:15:11,585
♪ Working hard
just for my living ♪
1800
01:15:13,219 --> 01:15:16,389
♪ And that's the truth, baby ♪
1801
01:15:16,423 --> 01:15:18,224
[interviewer] You pretty much
made it clear.
1802
01:15:18,258 --> 01:15:19,627
You. . you're free and clear,
pretty much.
1803
01:15:19,660 --> 01:15:21,160
[Rodney]
I'm free. I'm goin' home.
1804
01:15:21,194 --> 01:15:23,062
I said, "I'm goin' home. "
1805
01:15:23,096 --> 01:15:24,532
There's nothin. . no. .
nobody knows who I am.
1806
01:15:24,565 --> 01:15:26,366
Driving home
across the bridge,
1807
01:15:26,399 --> 01:15:27,967
got into Oregon and I got up
towards Olympia
1808
01:15:28,001 --> 01:15:30,103
and I saw the. . state patrol.
1809
01:15:30,136 --> 01:15:32,405
There must've been ten cars
coming down the other side
1810
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,408
with the army, a bunch of 'em,
and these big trucks
1811
01:15:35,442 --> 01:15:37,176
are goin' down the road
and I'm goin',
1812
01:15:37,210 --> 01:15:40,280
"Uh-oh, might be for me. "
You know?
1813
01:15:40,313 --> 01:15:43,049
So, I turn the transistor
radio on, it says a manhunt.
1814
01:15:43,082 --> 01:15:44,417
[radio newscaster]
Police believe he left
1815
01:15:44,451 --> 01:15:46,352
the 727 in the flatlands
1816
01:15:46,386 --> 01:15:48,154
of Oregon or Washington,
but they are still looking
1817
01:15:48,187 --> 01:15:51,057
in four states,
even around the airport.
1818
01:15:51,090 --> 01:15:52,593
[Rodney] November 25th
at my mom's house
1819
01:15:52,626 --> 01:15:55,061
to get my dinner. .
turkey dinner.
1820
01:15:55,094 --> 01:15:56,963
I ate there then went
downstairs and went to bed.
1821
01:15:56,996 --> 01:15:59,065
Slept 'til about two or three
in the afternoon
1822
01:15:59,098 --> 01:16:00,701
and my dad said,
"You had a rough night,
1823
01:16:00,734 --> 01:16:02,536
must've been out
with some girls with him
1824
01:16:02,570 --> 01:16:04,103
or something,
always with those girls. "
1825
01:16:04,137 --> 01:16:05,338
And my mom said,
"Oh, let him go,
1826
01:16:05,371 --> 01:16:06,674
it's Thanksgiving. "
1827
01:16:06,707 --> 01:16:07,974
You know, and everything.
1828
01:16:16,115 --> 01:16:20,253
♪ Whoa,
she was my little machine ♪
1829
01:16:20,286 --> 01:16:22,121
I got home
and then I sat there
1830
01:16:22,155 --> 01:16:24,090
and then Joe McDonald
came over, the neighbor,
1831
01:16:24,123 --> 01:16:26,259
and said, "Oh,
you gotta turn the TV on. "
1832
01:16:26,292 --> 01:16:28,261
So then
I turn the TV on and my. .
1833
01:16:28,294 --> 01:16:30,497
my dad's sitting there
and he goes, "Betty!
1834
01:16:30,531 --> 01:16:32,633
This looks like Rod!
1835
01:16:32,666 --> 01:16:35,068
But how could it be Rod?
He's sittin' right here. "
1836
01:16:35,101 --> 01:16:37,571
That's what he said
to my mother.
1837
01:16:37,605 --> 01:16:39,272
Well, that's another
good lookin' Irish kid,
1838
01:16:39,305 --> 01:16:41,007
isn't it?
1839
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,342
-What, half Irish?
-[young Rodney laughing]
1840
01:16:42,375 --> 01:16:44,177
I give the Lions
plus three.
1841
01:16:44,210 --> 01:16:46,680
You always bet on the Lions,
the Lions never win.
1842
01:16:46,714 --> 01:16:48,381
I pick the Lions
on Thanksgiving,
1843
01:16:48,414 --> 01:16:49,482
that's the way it is.
1844
01:16:50,350 --> 01:16:51,518
No smoking in the house.
1845
01:16:53,453 --> 01:16:56,456
My second family!
My home away from home!
1846
01:16:56,824 --> 01:16:58,759
[Jack and Babs]
Happy Thanksgiving, McDonald.
1847
01:17:02,362 --> 01:17:05,298
McDonald, how many times
do I have to tell you
1848
01:17:05,331 --> 01:17:07,701
to keep your fuckin' feet
off my fuckin' table?
1849
01:17:07,735 --> 01:17:10,103
Senior, these are bitchin'
Italian leather.
1850
01:17:10,136 --> 01:17:12,539
I don't care if they came
straight off the feet
1851
01:17:12,573 --> 01:17:14,608
of Elvis Aaron Presley
himself.
1852
01:17:15,576 --> 01:17:17,477
Off the table
or in your ass.
1853
01:17:18,144 --> 01:17:20,480
-You pick.
-Sorry, sorry.
1854
01:17:20,914 --> 01:17:23,316
You know, McDonald,
actin' like that,
1855
01:17:23,349 --> 01:17:25,619
you're never gonna get yourself
a babe like my Babs here.
1856
01:17:26,587 --> 01:17:28,121
You two make me sick.
1857
01:17:28,154 --> 01:17:29,590
Piss off, Rodney.
1858
01:17:29,623 --> 01:17:31,224
[young Rodney]
Piss off, Barbara.
1859
01:17:31,257 --> 01:17:32,693
Hey, piss off, Rod.
1860
01:17:32,726 --> 01:17:35,061
Piss off, Jack.
You got a muzzle for her?
1861
01:17:35,094 --> 01:17:36,830
-[Babs] I can hold my own.
-[young Rodney scoffs]
1862
01:17:36,864 --> 01:17:39,065
You know that
from experience.
1863
01:17:39,098 --> 01:17:40,166
That's 'cause
you wear the pants
1864
01:17:40,199 --> 01:17:41,501
in the relationship.
1865
01:17:41,534 --> 01:17:43,102
Oh, Rod,
you know that's not true.
1866
01:17:43,136 --> 01:17:46,573
[Mom]
Hey, hey, guys, cut it out!
1867
01:17:47,073 --> 01:17:49,843
When can a mother
just have a nice,
1868
01:17:49,877 --> 01:17:51,544
peaceful holiday
1869
01:17:51,578 --> 01:17:54,380
with her two lovely boys
and her dapper husband?
1870
01:17:55,816 --> 01:17:58,551
Oh, I wish my family
was this well-behaved.
1871
01:17:58,585 --> 01:18:00,453
Hell, I just came here
to get away from their asses.
1872
01:18:01,689 --> 01:18:04,190
Oh, and see if you guys
watched the news!
1873
01:18:04,223 --> 01:18:07,795
Some guy hijacked a plane
in Portland last night
1874
01:18:07,828 --> 01:18:09,529
and then jumped from it!
1875
01:18:09,562 --> 01:18:11,665
It's like some
James Bond movie, man!
1876
01:18:11,699 --> 01:18:14,467
Ooh, I love James Bond!
1877
01:18:15,568 --> 01:18:17,403
Turn it on, Senior!
1878
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:22,710
[news anchor]
When he got on a plane
1879
01:18:22,743 --> 01:18:24,177
in Portland, Oregon
last night,
1880
01:18:24,210 --> 01:18:25,646
he was just another passenger
1881
01:18:25,679 --> 01:18:27,313
who gave his name
as D. A. Cooper.
1882
01:18:27,346 --> 01:18:29,315
But today,
after hijacking a. .
1883
01:18:29,348 --> 01:18:32,518
A plane heist?
In our backyard?
1884
01:18:33,152 --> 01:18:34,587
Oh, dear Lord!
1885
01:18:34,621 --> 01:18:36,389
This guy got away with it
though.
1886
01:18:37,590 --> 01:18:38,792
-Betty.
-[Mom] Yeah?
1887
01:18:39,325 --> 01:18:41,260
This looks a lot like Rod.
1888
01:18:43,396 --> 01:18:46,599
How can it be Rod?
He's sitting right here!
1889
01:18:46,633 --> 01:18:48,234
[news anchor] . left aboard
four crew members
1890
01:18:48,267 --> 01:18:49,602
and the hijacker.
1891
01:18:49,636 --> 01:18:50,904
[Dad] I guess
it's just another
1892
01:18:50,938 --> 01:18:52,405
good-looking Irish kid.
1893
01:18:54,373 --> 01:18:56,777
[all]
No smoking in the house!
1894
01:18:56,810 --> 01:18:58,144
[news anchor]
. with the full ransom
1895
01:18:58,177 --> 01:18:58,979
collected from
the Seattle banks
1896
01:18:59,012 --> 01:19:00,179
and four parachutes
aboard. .
1897
01:19:00,213 --> 01:19:02,448
[Rodney] My dad didn't know,
I didn't tell my dad and mom
1898
01:19:02,482 --> 01:19:04,785
for ten years
after I did it.
1899
01:19:04,818 --> 01:19:05,919
[interviewer]
So, did you tell anyone
1900
01:19:05,953 --> 01:19:06,887
right after
you committed the crime?
1901
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,822
My brother.
My brother's known all along.
1902
01:19:08,856 --> 01:19:10,356
[Jack] Golly!
1903
01:19:10,389 --> 01:19:12,258
Brigitte Bardot's
hot as a pistol!
1904
01:19:12,291 --> 01:19:13,827
[young Rodney] Oh, yeah?
1905
01:19:13,861 --> 01:19:15,662
You got
the Brigitte Bardot edition?
1906
01:19:15,696 --> 01:19:17,330
-Let me take a look.
-Hands off the merchandise.
1907
01:19:17,363 --> 01:19:18,665
Sorry, it's not like
I need to see it,
1908
01:19:18,699 --> 01:19:19,833
I've seen it
a thousand times.
1909
01:19:20,233 --> 01:19:22,301
I got Brigitte Bardot
stored away up here
1910
01:19:22,335 --> 01:19:24,270
for very special occasions
in the future.
1911
01:19:24,705 --> 01:19:26,305
Yeah?
1912
01:19:26,339 --> 01:19:27,941
Like the time
you got busted by mom
1913
01:19:27,975 --> 01:19:29,810
-looking for face lotion?
-[young Rodney laughs]
1914
01:19:30,309 --> 01:19:32,746
No, and I would prefer
that we forget about that,
1915
01:19:32,780 --> 01:19:34,147
thank you very much.
1916
01:19:37,650 --> 01:19:39,185
Lotta good memories
in this house.
1917
01:19:41,387 --> 01:19:42,655
Do you remember
when we used to raid
1918
01:19:42,689 --> 01:19:44,725
dad's old movie cabinet
1919
01:19:44,758 --> 01:19:46,760
and we'd put on Public Enemy
over and over and over again?
1920
01:19:47,293 --> 01:19:48,829
And I would play
John Dillinger
1921
01:19:48,862 --> 01:19:49,897
and you'd play
Pretty Boy Floyd?
1922
01:19:50,496 --> 01:19:51,564
Yeah, yeah.
1923
01:19:52,298 --> 01:19:53,767
Or how 'bout that kid
across the street?
1924
01:19:54,467 --> 01:19:56,269
With the headgear?
1925
01:19:56,302 --> 01:19:57,603
What'd we call him?
What'd we used to call him?
1926
01:19:57,637 --> 01:19:59,205
Uh. .
1927
01:19:59,238 --> 01:20:00,774
[both] Brace-face Nelson!
1928
01:20:00,808 --> 01:20:03,509
[laughing] What an idiot.
1929
01:20:05,378 --> 01:20:06,612
Gangster films. .
1930
01:20:08,015 --> 01:20:09,682
I have a feeling
I'm about to put
1931
01:20:09,716 --> 01:20:11,250
all those gangsters
in the cinema to shame.
1932
01:20:13,419 --> 01:20:14,487
Keep dreamin', bud.
1933
01:20:15,722 --> 01:20:18,191
No, I'm not kidding.
1934
01:20:18,859 --> 01:20:20,693
Last night on the news,
1935
01:20:20,727 --> 01:20:21,862
the guy that jumped
outta the plane, you remember?
1936
01:20:21,895 --> 01:20:23,196
-Yeah.
-[laughs]
1937
01:20:24,363 --> 01:20:25,933
You're sitting with him.
It was me.
1938
01:20:28,634 --> 01:20:30,236
-[Jack] Full of shit.
-[laughing]
1939
01:20:30,269 --> 01:20:31,337
I'm not full of shit.
1940
01:20:32,305 --> 01:20:33,472
I really did it.
Look, come on.
1941
01:20:34,942 --> 01:20:36,743
If I didn't do it,
how did I get these?
1942
01:20:43,784 --> 01:20:45,518
Rod,
if you were that guy,
1943
01:20:45,551 --> 01:20:47,353
we'd be on our way to paradise
with $200,000.
1944
01:20:49,488 --> 01:20:51,324
You really don't believe me.
I jumped out of the plane!
1945
01:20:51,357 --> 01:20:53,659
I landed and about a quarter
mile from where I landed
1946
01:20:53,693 --> 01:20:55,028
I buried all this money
1947
01:20:55,062 --> 01:20:56,495
next to this big black
onyx rock!
1948
01:20:57,998 --> 01:20:59,665
I need you to come help me
dig it up.
1949
01:21:00,399 --> 01:21:01,869
You're serious?
1950
01:21:01,902 --> 01:21:03,302
[young Rodney scoffs]
As a heart attack.
1951
01:21:04,403 --> 01:21:05,705
Okay, let's just say,
1952
01:21:05,738 --> 01:21:07,240
hypothetically,
you were that guy.
1953
01:21:08,208 --> 01:21:09,977
Those bills
would definitely be marked. .
1954
01:21:10,777 --> 01:21:12,913
and if you got caught
you'd be goin' to Walla Walla
1955
01:21:12,946 --> 01:21:14,714
for the rest
of your goddamn life.
1956
01:21:16,415 --> 01:21:17,818
Bro, I need you
to believe me on this.
1957
01:21:21,487 --> 01:21:22,990
Rod. .
1958
01:21:23,023 --> 01:21:27,060
if you're that guy. .
don't go back there.
1959
01:21:27,094 --> 01:21:28,962
[announcer]
The Army Corps of Engineers
1960
01:21:28,996 --> 01:21:31,697
had dredged the Columbia River
here in 1974.
1961
01:21:31,731 --> 01:21:33,967
[Mike] And the original money
was found just south of here.
1962
01:21:34,001 --> 01:21:35,668
So, this, uh, probably
1963
01:21:35,701 --> 01:21:37,403
is the cove
that he encountered.
1964
01:21:37,436 --> 01:21:38,906
And then he moved inland
from there.
1965
01:21:39,438 --> 01:21:41,008
Have him come
take a look at this.
1966
01:21:41,041 --> 01:21:43,010
[announcer]
And now on shore,
1967
01:21:43,043 --> 01:21:45,444
where FBI agents comb the sand
like archaeologists.
1968
01:21:45,478 --> 01:21:48,882
All they found was $5,800
and no sign of D. B. Cooper.
1969
01:21:48,916 --> 01:21:50,017
Oh, yeah, it's here.
1970
01:21:50,583 --> 01:21:52,752
It's right on this. .
we're right in the right area.
1971
01:21:54,087 --> 01:21:55,721
It's gotta be here somewhere.
1972
01:21:55,755 --> 01:21:59,325
[intriguing music playing]
1973
01:22:00,426 --> 01:22:02,863
[worker indistinct]
1974
01:22:04,630 --> 01:22:06,332
[Rodney] And they're digging
right by the flat rock, right?
1975
01:22:06,365 --> 01:22:07,433
[man] Yeah.
1976
01:22:08,301 --> 01:22:10,003
[Mike] To me, that whole
group of rocks right there. .
1977
01:22:11,038 --> 01:22:13,874
Yeah, and that is. .
he says that's black onyx.
1978
01:22:14,274 --> 01:22:16,776
And, yeah, there's several
up in this area too,
1979
01:22:16,809 --> 01:22:19,779
so that's the only
concentration of that.
1980
01:22:19,812 --> 01:22:20,914
[announcer]
Crews continue to dig
1981
01:22:20,948 --> 01:22:22,615
but found very little
1982
01:22:22,648 --> 01:22:24,084
of Cooper's green treasure
today,
1983
01:22:24,117 --> 01:22:25,785
even though
the discovery site
1984
01:22:25,818 --> 01:22:26,987
is looking
like a very scientific
1985
01:22:27,020 --> 01:22:28,554
archaeological excavation.
1986
01:22:28,587 --> 01:22:29,689
Shovels gave way
to backhoes,
1987
01:22:29,722 --> 01:22:31,524
the FBI and geologists
1988
01:22:31,557 --> 01:22:32,859
scooping out a test-trench
up the beach.
1989
01:22:32,893 --> 01:22:34,627
What they're trying to tell,
1990
01:22:34,660 --> 01:22:36,595
how long had D. B. 's money
been here?
1991
01:22:36,629 --> 01:22:38,531
They knew certain levels
were laid down on the beach
1992
01:22:38,564 --> 01:22:41,567
in 1974, but they found
no money below that point.
1993
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,136
[man 2 whistling]
1994
01:22:43,170 --> 01:22:44,503
-[Mike] We got a whistle.
-[both] What's up?
1995
01:22:44,537 --> 01:22:45,538
[Carlos] Heard a whistle,
1996
01:22:45,571 --> 01:22:47,107
blood starts pumping,
and I think, "Okay,
1997
01:22:47,140 --> 01:22:48,774
maybe somebody's found
something of interest.
1998
01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:51,044
[man 2] Is anybody
in the woods?
1999
01:22:51,078 --> 01:22:52,879
There's a body.
2000
01:22:52,913 --> 01:22:54,014
[Carlos] I thought
I heard somebody say,
2001
01:22:54,047 --> 01:22:55,148
"I found a body. "
2002
01:22:55,182 --> 01:22:56,415
[Mike] [indistinct] body.
2003
01:22:57,284 --> 01:22:59,785
[man 3] Yeah, we might wanna
go up there and check it out.
2004
01:22:59,819 --> 01:23:01,121
[man 4] Well,
I will just take this.
2005
01:23:01,154 --> 01:23:02,956
[Mike] And then uh. .
2006
01:23:02,990 --> 01:23:04,024
and then I hear something
about a warrant.
2007
01:23:04,057 --> 01:23:05,591
somebody hollerin'
2008
01:23:05,624 --> 01:23:06,994
We don't know
if it's a sheriff
2009
01:23:07,027 --> 01:23:08,996
or an officer
or who it could be.
2010
01:23:09,029 --> 01:23:10,931
We're just out for a day hike
and shooting some of the. .
2011
01:23:12,798 --> 01:23:14,467
[Mike]
I mean, we knew going in
2012
01:23:14,500 --> 01:23:15,701
that we probably
shouldn't be there.
2013
01:23:25,112 --> 01:23:27,546
[Carlos indistinct]
2014
01:23:27,580 --> 01:23:30,683
[Scott] Kids walk
from the bus everyday
2015
01:23:30,716 --> 01:23:32,019
'cause I live down here.
2016
01:23:32,052 --> 01:23:34,720
That sign
is pretty highly posted
2017
01:23:34,754 --> 01:23:36,555
-on that gate.
-Yeah.
2018
01:23:36,589 --> 01:23:38,091
So is this all private property
from the gate back?
2019
01:23:38,491 --> 01:23:40,426
-[Scott] Yessir.
-Yeah.
2020
01:23:40,459 --> 01:23:42,062
[Scott] Sorry, I'm not trying
to be an ass.
2021
01:23:42,095 --> 01:23:43,629
-[Carlos] No, no.
-[Mike] And we're not either.
2022
01:23:43,662 --> 01:23:45,098
-[Scott] I'm loaded.
-So are we.
2023
01:23:45,132 --> 01:23:47,034
You have the complete right
to. . yeah.
2024
01:23:47,067 --> 01:23:50,003
[Scott]
My name's Scott. Is that on?
2025
01:23:50,037 --> 01:23:51,737
-Do you want it to be on?
-[Scott] No.
2026
01:23:51,771 --> 01:23:54,607
-[both laughing]
-[cameraman] It's not on you.
2027
01:23:55,641 --> 01:23:56,909
-Yeah.
-[Scott] It's recording.
2028
01:23:58,111 --> 01:23:59,179
What're you guys recovering?
2029
01:23:59,912 --> 01:24:01,447
You said you guys
were down here
2030
01:24:01,480 --> 01:24:02,548
with a recovery agent?
2031
01:24:03,150 --> 01:24:04,417
What're you looking for?
2032
01:24:05,818 --> 01:24:08,454
[all laughing]
2033
01:24:08,487 --> 01:24:09,688
[Scott] Hey,
you're on my property,
2034
01:24:09,722 --> 01:24:10,957
what're you looking for?
2035
01:24:10,991 --> 01:24:12,458
Is that
your specific property?
2036
01:24:12,491 --> 01:24:13,592
-[Scott] Yeah!
-I. . I thought
2037
01:24:13,626 --> 01:24:15,128
this was private property-
2038
01:24:15,162 --> 01:24:16,396
[Scott] No, no, it says
it all over the gate.
2039
01:24:16,429 --> 01:24:18,198
[interviewer] Why didn't
you go back and get the money?
2040
01:24:18,231 --> 01:24:19,532
[Rodney] Pandora's box.
2041
01:24:19,565 --> 01:24:21,201
You open that box. .
2042
01:24:21,234 --> 01:24:23,736
it's gonna happen
all over again.
2043
01:24:23,769 --> 01:24:27,174
138 kidnapping cases
plus the pilots,
2044
01:24:27,207 --> 01:24:29,542
another four, five of them.
2045
01:24:29,575 --> 01:24:31,011
That's. .
you'd never get out of prison,
2046
01:24:31,044 --> 01:24:32,845
you'd never see
the light of day.
2047
01:24:32,878 --> 01:24:34,680
I knew
that I was still wanted.
2048
01:24:34,713 --> 01:24:36,682
It was, like,
I was wanted all the time,
2049
01:24:36,715 --> 01:24:38,918
walking around and I thought
maybe sooner or later
2050
01:24:38,951 --> 01:24:42,189
somebody'd recognize me,
but that wasn't the case.
2051
01:24:42,588 --> 01:24:44,757
So I decided
to go on the run for a while,
2052
01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:48,594
I went to Whitefish, Montana,
went to, uh, Lake Tahoe,
2053
01:24:48,627 --> 01:24:50,230
I went to Reno,
I went to Vegas.
2054
01:24:50,729 --> 01:24:52,798
[interviewer]
I. . so. . you just. . you knew
2055
01:24:52,832 --> 01:24:55,634
you had done something
so crazy
2056
01:24:55,668 --> 01:24:57,503
and you knew
you would go to prison forever
2057
01:24:57,536 --> 01:24:59,538
so there's no way
that you'd have ever bragged?
2058
01:24:59,572 --> 01:25:00,639
No.
2059
01:25:01,308 --> 01:25:03,542
But I did brag
to Rita Coolidge.
2060
01:25:03,576 --> 01:25:05,978
I met her in Lake Tahoe,
she's singing at a bar,
2061
01:25:06,012 --> 01:25:08,181
and she says,
"Well, you know I did a movie
2062
01:25:08,215 --> 01:25:10,217
with Kris Kristofferson,
Billy the Kid. "
2063
01:25:11,051 --> 01:25:12,651
And she says,
"You're more famous
2064
01:25:12,685 --> 01:25:13,752
than Billy the Kid. "
2065
01:25:15,155 --> 01:25:16,822
She said, "I'd like to do
a movie with you. "
2066
01:25:17,990 --> 01:25:19,758
And so,
she took her shoes off
2067
01:25:19,792 --> 01:25:22,062
and kept rubbing her feet
on my knee and, uh,
2068
01:25:22,095 --> 01:25:23,729
getting close to this
and I says,
2069
01:25:23,762 --> 01:25:25,098
"Well, she must like me
a whole bunch. "
2070
01:25:26,133 --> 01:25:28,701
I just made a movie
with Kris
2071
01:25:28,734 --> 01:25:29,902
called Billy the Kid. .
2072
01:25:31,204 --> 01:25:34,040
and things had gotten,
well. .
2073
01:25:35,841 --> 01:25:37,210
[sighs] out of hand.
2074
01:25:40,646 --> 01:25:42,282
I was heartbroken at the time,
you know,
2075
01:25:42,315 --> 01:25:45,684
and drinkin' more
than I shoulda been.
2076
01:25:47,187 --> 01:25:50,290
♪ All I was was patient ♪
2077
01:25:50,323 --> 01:25:55,162
♪ All I was was kind ♪
2078
01:25:55,195 --> 01:25:58,931
♪ But you found
the burnt pieces ♪
2079
01:25:58,964 --> 01:26:04,271
♪ Of the love
we left behind ♪
2080
01:26:04,304 --> 01:26:08,741
♪ The love we left behind ♪
2081
01:26:10,042 --> 01:26:13,979
♪ Oh, the love we left ♪
2082
01:26:15,148 --> 01:26:18,050
♪ Behind ♪
2083
01:26:18,084 --> 01:26:21,620
♪ Mm ♪
2084
01:26:23,123 --> 01:26:27,160
[applause]
2085
01:26:31,897 --> 01:26:34,301
-Hey, Stan.
-[Stan] Hey!
2086
01:26:34,900 --> 01:26:37,170
Can I get a Macallan
on the rocks?
2087
01:26:37,636 --> 01:26:39,105
You know how I like it.
2088
01:26:41,174 --> 01:26:43,075
Now a lady who knows
how to order whiskey. .
2089
01:26:44,177 --> 01:26:45,245
that, I like.
2090
01:26:46,845 --> 01:26:48,847
Well,
I been drinkin' long enough
2091
01:26:48,881 --> 01:26:50,150
to know what I like.
2092
01:26:50,183 --> 01:26:51,684
Well,
that makes two of us.
2093
01:26:52,084 --> 01:26:54,354
And, I love that song
that you sang tonight.
2094
01:26:54,387 --> 01:26:56,122
Who writes something
like that?
2095
01:26:56,156 --> 01:26:57,957
That's incredible,
I could really, you know,
2096
01:26:57,990 --> 01:26:59,392
hear all the pain
coming out of you on that one.
2097
01:26:59,426 --> 01:27:00,693
[laughs]
2098
01:27:01,794 --> 01:27:02,861
Yeah.
2099
01:27:04,197 --> 01:27:05,898
Heartbreak is a funny thing.
2100
01:27:08,033 --> 01:27:09,369
There's always that one
2101
01:27:09,402 --> 01:27:11,003
that leaves
with a piece of you.
2102
01:27:11,737 --> 01:27:15,040
And the only way I seem to cope
is on a stage. .
2103
01:27:16,443 --> 01:27:17,876
or with a few of these.
2104
01:27:22,114 --> 01:27:23,916
I'm sorry,
I didn't catch your name.
2105
01:27:24,783 --> 01:27:27,354
Rodney Bonnifield.
Pleasure to meet you.
2106
01:27:27,387 --> 01:27:28,854
Rita Coolidge.
2107
01:27:29,322 --> 01:27:31,123
Just like the town
in Colorado.
2108
01:27:31,157 --> 01:27:32,192
[young Rodney] Oh, yeah?
2109
01:27:33,460 --> 01:27:36,795
It's actually
named after my family.
2110
01:27:38,864 --> 01:27:39,965
Now,
that is funny because. .
2111
01:27:40,866 --> 01:27:43,736
-I also have a long history. .
-Oh, wait, wait, wait.
2112
01:27:44,371 --> 01:27:45,804
I wanna hear this.
2113
01:27:46,705 --> 01:27:49,875
-Stan, turn it up.
-[Stan] You got it.
2114
01:27:49,908 --> 01:27:51,910
[news anchor]
In other news,
2115
01:27:51,944 --> 01:27:54,314
it's been two years since
the D. B. Cooper hijacking
2116
01:27:54,347 --> 01:27:56,715
and still no sign
of a suspect.
2117
01:27:57,350 --> 01:27:58,851
Oh, my gosh.
2118
01:27:58,884 --> 01:28:00,786
I'm fascinated by this guy.
2119
01:28:02,955 --> 01:28:06,859
It takes a real man
to carry out a plan like that
2120
01:28:06,892 --> 01:28:08,127
and not harm a soul.
2121
01:28:09,429 --> 01:28:11,063
Now,
that I will agree with you on.
2122
01:28:12,731 --> 01:28:14,234
Yeah.
2123
01:28:14,267 --> 01:28:17,169
You know, he's probably
on some beach somewhere
2124
01:28:17,203 --> 01:28:19,372
sippin' piña coladas
2125
01:28:19,406 --> 01:28:21,374
while I'm here
in this bar
2126
01:28:21,408 --> 01:28:24,377
singin' songs to the same
ten people every night.
2127
01:28:24,411 --> 01:28:26,879
[laughs] Well,
I can certainly see why!
2128
01:28:28,381 --> 01:28:30,283
You know,
this D. B. Cooper fella,
2129
01:28:30,317 --> 01:28:32,452
he's probably on some
white sandy beach somewhere
2130
01:28:32,485 --> 01:28:33,986
tossin' back a piña colada.
2131
01:28:34,487 --> 01:28:35,754
Or. .
2132
01:28:37,357 --> 01:28:38,757
he's right here
in this bar. .
2133
01:28:40,493 --> 01:28:41,860
havin' drinks with you,
miss.
2134
01:28:41,894 --> 01:28:45,931
[guitar music playing]
2135
01:28:50,337 --> 01:28:55,974
♪ Woke up this morning
I was a thousand miles away ♪
2136
01:28:56,008 --> 01:28:58,445
♪ Didn't know
just where I stand ♪
2137
01:29:01,013 --> 01:29:06,819
♪ Nothing on me
but this beat up suitcase ♪
2138
01:29:06,852 --> 01:29:09,988
♪ And I know I got a plan ♪
2139
01:29:10,022 --> 01:29:12,224
♪ And I'll be runnin' now ♪
2140
01:29:14,461 --> 01:29:17,096
♪ 'Fore my feet
ever hit the ground ♪
2141
01:29:20,367 --> 01:29:22,469
♪ I'll be runnin' now ♪
2142
01:29:25,137 --> 01:29:27,507
♪ 'Fore my feet
ever hit the ground ♪
2143
01:29:31,378 --> 01:29:35,548
♪ And I'm running
out of my head ♪
2144
01:29:35,582 --> 01:29:37,417
♪ Nobody's gonna
bring me down ♪
2145
01:29:37,450 --> 01:29:39,017
You know, I was thinkin' .
2146
01:29:41,388 --> 01:29:43,122
you should come
to Denver with me.
2147
01:29:45,924 --> 01:29:47,327
I got a couple gigs there.
2148
01:29:49,027 --> 01:29:50,497
[young Rodney sighs]
2149
01:29:52,931 --> 01:29:54,401
I can't go
to Colorado with you.
2150
01:29:56,902 --> 01:29:58,804
I've had
a fantastic time with you. .
2151
01:30:02,007 --> 01:30:03,510
But the whole
outlaw on the run thing. .
2152
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:07,547
kinda gets in the way.
2153
01:30:10,048 --> 01:30:11,116
I understand.
2154
01:30:30,570 --> 01:30:32,838
I've had a melody in my head
all morning.
2155
01:30:36,543 --> 01:30:41,046
♪ Run, D. B. , run ♪
2156
01:30:42,047 --> 01:30:44,350
♪ Mm ♪
2157
01:30:45,452 --> 01:30:49,822
♪ Run, D. B. , run ♪
2158
01:30:52,191 --> 01:30:56,463
♪ But for how long? ♪
2159
01:30:58,030 --> 01:31:00,933
♪ 'Cause eventually ♪
2160
01:31:00,966 --> 01:31:03,636
♪ You're gonna have to find
somebody ♪
2161
01:31:03,670 --> 01:31:08,240
♪ To hold onto ♪
2162
01:31:09,576 --> 01:31:11,243
[interviewer]
Um, what do you. .
2163
01:31:11,276 --> 01:31:12,645
where do you think
we go from here?
2164
01:31:12,679 --> 01:31:14,146
In this process?
2165
01:31:14,179 --> 01:31:15,981
Well,
where we go from here?
2166
01:31:16,014 --> 01:31:17,517
First, we have some details
that we have to vet out
2167
01:31:17,550 --> 01:31:19,652
and there are. .
there are a few specific things
2168
01:31:19,686 --> 01:31:22,455
that may indicate,
um, that,
2169
01:31:22,489 --> 01:31:25,257
still there's a chance
that he is D. B. Cooper.
2170
01:31:25,290 --> 01:31:27,025
If we debunk those, then. .
2171
01:31:27,059 --> 01:31:29,161
then I think
our options do shrink.
2172
01:31:29,194 --> 01:31:31,063
And if you analyze
the facts
2173
01:31:31,096 --> 01:31:34,567
and his commitment
to this dig,
2174
01:31:34,601 --> 01:31:38,538
um, you think,
"Yes, it's true. It's real.
2175
01:31:38,571 --> 01:31:41,608
This individual
is D. B. Cooper.
2176
01:31:41,641 --> 01:31:43,909
You know, we were disappointed
at the end of the day
2177
01:31:43,942 --> 01:31:47,480
because in three hours
we didn't solve a mystery
2178
01:31:47,514 --> 01:31:49,516
that had been going on
for 48 years.
2179
01:31:49,549 --> 01:31:51,216
So we felt negligent.
2180
01:31:51,250 --> 01:31:53,118
But in reality,
you know, we went out there
2181
01:31:53,151 --> 01:31:56,088
and gave it, you know,
a good effort and, uh, again,
2182
01:31:56,121 --> 01:31:57,923
it doesn't mean
that it's not there.
2183
01:31:57,956 --> 01:31:59,526
It just means
we didn't find it.
2184
01:31:59,559 --> 01:32:02,327
So we, right now,
today, don't know.
2185
01:32:02,795 --> 01:32:04,597
So what we need to do
is fall back
2186
01:32:04,631 --> 01:32:06,365
and do some fact checking
on some of the things
2187
01:32:06,398 --> 01:32:08,100
-that he's told us.
-[man on phone] Hey.
2188
01:32:08,133 --> 01:32:10,402
Hey, um, we're doing
some fact checking. .
2189
01:32:11,203 --> 01:32:14,373
and does he have
his brother's number?
2190
01:32:14,406 --> 01:32:16,174
Does Rod have
his brother's number
2191
01:32:16,208 --> 01:32:17,477
or any phone numbers?
2192
01:32:17,510 --> 01:32:18,678
-[man] 360.
-Yep.
2193
01:32:20,345 --> 01:32:22,180
-[man] 387.
-Yep.
2194
01:32:22,214 --> 01:32:24,950
[man] But he is, again,
recouping from, uh,
2195
01:32:24,983 --> 01:32:26,519
prostate surgery
2196
01:32:26,553 --> 01:32:29,121
and he wants to recoup
a little bit.
2197
01:32:29,154 --> 01:32:31,990
Okay, that's fair.
We'll call him first.
2198
01:32:32,024 --> 01:32:34,026
[phone line rings]
2199
01:32:34,059 --> 01:32:35,695
And this is his brother,
Jack,
2200
01:32:35,728 --> 01:32:38,030
who just got out of
prostate surgery two days ago.
2201
01:32:39,097 --> 01:32:40,432
So if he's all hopped up,
2202
01:32:40,466 --> 01:32:42,100
he might be telling us
the truth.
2203
01:32:42,134 --> 01:32:45,738
-[Babs] Hello?
-Hey, is Jack available?
2204
01:32:45,772 --> 01:32:47,607
[Babs] Uh, no he's not,
who's this?
2205
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,308
Uh, my name is Mike Rocha
2206
01:32:49,341 --> 01:32:51,209
we're doing some research
2207
01:32:51,243 --> 01:32:55,247
on the D. B. Cooper hijacking
back in 1971.
2208
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,082
-Are you familiar with that?
-[Babs] Uh-huh.
2209
01:32:57,115 --> 01:32:59,752
-We're talking to Rod and. .
-[Babs] Oh.
2210
01:32:59,786 --> 01:33:02,321
Rod claims
to be D. B. Cooper.
2211
01:33:02,354 --> 01:33:04,624
[Babs]
Oh, no he's not.
2212
01:33:04,657 --> 01:33:06,492
Do you have any. .
I mean. . is he. .
2213
01:33:06,526 --> 01:33:10,597
has he had this manifestation
in his mind for a while?
2214
01:33:10,630 --> 01:33:12,632
[Babs]
Yeah, yeah, for a long time.
2215
01:33:12,665 --> 01:33:16,769
Right. Do you. . I mean,
do you guys have facts about,
2216
01:33:16,803 --> 01:33:20,138
the. . where he was the day
that it happened or anything?
2217
01:33:20,172 --> 01:33:23,041
[Babs] No,
but he's definitely not.
2218
01:33:23,075 --> 01:33:24,577
Uh, yeah, I mean,
2219
01:33:24,611 --> 01:33:26,311
we've spent
the last couple days with him,
2220
01:33:26,345 --> 01:33:28,681
trying to, you know,
corroborate his story.
2221
01:33:28,715 --> 01:33:32,417
What is the family's view
on this?
2222
01:33:32,451 --> 01:33:35,420
[Babs] The family's view
is that he's nuts. [laughing]
2223
01:33:35,454 --> 01:33:38,457
I mean. . what. .
has he always been crazy
2224
01:33:38,490 --> 01:33:41,026
-or, um. .
-[Babs] Uh, no.
2225
01:33:41,059 --> 01:33:44,296
He was in a car wreck
when he was about 18. .
2226
01:33:44,329 --> 01:33:45,765
-Right.
- . years old.
2227
01:33:45,798 --> 01:33:47,399
[Babs]
And, uh, he. .
2228
01:33:49,434 --> 01:33:52,805
uh, he went forward
in the backseat
2229
01:33:52,839 --> 01:33:54,674
and then
when he went backwards
2230
01:33:54,707 --> 01:33:56,676
he hit his head real bad.
2231
01:33:56,709 --> 01:33:58,410
[Babs indistinct]
2232
01:33:58,443 --> 01:33:59,712
[Mike] We got a hold
of his sister-in-law.
2233
01:34:00,078 --> 01:34:03,048
And she described an accident
that Rodney was in
2234
01:34:03,081 --> 01:34:04,651
and he sustained
a brain injury.
2235
01:34:05,350 --> 01:34:07,754
Which really sheds
some light
2236
01:34:07,787 --> 01:34:10,055
on our view of him.
2237
01:34:11,523 --> 01:34:14,594
Now it's possible
he is a little bit delusional.
2238
01:34:14,627 --> 01:34:16,294
[interviewer]
You're so detailed
2239
01:34:16,328 --> 01:34:18,463
with everything
and that's why I'm just. .
2240
01:34:18,497 --> 01:34:20,098
I'm so interested
2241
01:34:20,132 --> 01:34:21,466
as why some of
your family members
2242
01:34:21,500 --> 01:34:23,235
might not believe
that you are
2243
01:34:23,268 --> 01:34:24,737
or some people might not
believe that you are.
2244
01:34:24,771 --> 01:34:26,606
Well, my brother's wife,
Barbara Bonnifield,
2245
01:34:26,639 --> 01:34:28,106
wants to protect
their name.
2246
01:34:28,775 --> 01:34:31,243
They're Christians,
they have a Christian. .
2247
01:34:31,276 --> 01:34:32,779
they go to church,
2248
01:34:32,812 --> 01:34:34,647
my mom and dad
went to church there and stuff.
2249
01:34:34,681 --> 01:34:37,149
She's known all along
that I'm D. B. Cooper.
2250
01:34:37,549 --> 01:34:39,351
I had called her
2251
01:34:39,384 --> 01:34:41,587
about three months
before this episode happened.
2252
01:34:41,988 --> 01:34:43,623
I said,
"I'm goin' down there
2253
01:34:43,656 --> 01:34:44,757
and digging my money
up by the river. "
2254
01:34:45,892 --> 01:34:47,526
Before I even met you guys.
2255
01:34:47,559 --> 01:34:49,494
And. . and that's. .
that's what I told her.
2256
01:34:50,162 --> 01:34:53,532
She never answered me,
she just is kinda like,
2257
01:34:53,565 --> 01:34:55,333
"Okay, protect the family.
2258
01:34:55,367 --> 01:34:57,235
Protect the family name,
you know. "
2259
01:34:57,269 --> 01:34:58,838
[interviewer]
She said that, uh,
2260
01:34:58,871 --> 01:35:00,539
the reason why you're claiming
to be all this
2261
01:35:00,572 --> 01:35:01,808
is because
of your car wreck.
2262
01:35:01,841 --> 01:35:03,442
No, that's not true.
2263
01:35:03,475 --> 01:35:06,511
Car wreck happened
in 9th grade,
2264
01:35:06,545 --> 01:35:09,214
going from 9th grade
on Military Road,
2265
01:35:09,247 --> 01:35:11,383
we got hit sideways
with a woman that was driving,
2266
01:35:11,416 --> 01:35:13,285
her mother was there.
2267
01:35:13,318 --> 01:35:16,455
And his name was Johnson.
Uh, her name was Johnson.
2268
01:35:16,488 --> 01:35:18,423
She ran a stop sign.
2269
01:35:21,293 --> 01:35:22,561
-[tires squeaking]
-[glass shattering]
2270
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,236
My fault.
The accident was my fault.
2271
01:35:31,269 --> 01:35:33,505
It was an accident.
Accidents are accidents.
2272
01:35:33,538 --> 01:35:35,474
[Rodney] [echoing]
I got hit in my head and, uh,
2273
01:35:35,507 --> 01:35:37,476
I was dizzy for, like,
a couple years after that
2274
01:35:37,509 --> 01:35:39,377
taking Dilaudid pills.
2275
01:35:39,411 --> 01:35:41,313
Pandora's box.
2276
01:35:41,346 --> 01:35:43,315
You open that box,
it'll happen all over again.
2277
01:35:43,348 --> 01:35:44,817
[driver] [echoing]
Please calm down! Okay?
2278
01:35:44,851 --> 01:35:47,185
I know your gal left you,
I'm so sorry.
2279
01:35:47,219 --> 01:35:50,188
What the fuck, Rodney!
I told you no more bullshit!
2280
01:35:50,222 --> 01:35:51,456
You're gone!
2281
01:35:51,490 --> 01:35:53,158
[Rodney] 138 kidnapping cases,
2282
01:35:53,191 --> 01:35:54,794
you'll never
get out of prison.
2283
01:35:54,827 --> 01:35:56,796
You wouldn't even see
the light of day.
2284
01:35:56,829 --> 01:35:58,765
[young Rodney] I'd sit
your ass down if I were you
2285
01:35:58,798 --> 01:36:00,465
and fix that crooked-ass
toupee while you're at it.
2286
01:36:00,499 --> 01:36:02,200
[pilot 1] It was at that point,
we believe,
2287
01:36:02,234 --> 01:36:05,805
that with the money
strapped to his chest,
2288
01:36:05,838 --> 01:36:08,240
he then jumped
from the aircraft.
2289
01:36:08,273 --> 01:36:10,642
Appreciate it!
See you down the road, boss!
2290
01:36:10,676 --> 01:36:11,944
Come away with me, Rodney.
2291
01:36:11,978 --> 01:36:15,247
[hyperventilating]
2292
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,315
I love you,
Rodney Bonnifield.
2293
01:36:17,349 --> 01:36:20,820
-[Rodney indistinct]
-[tense music playing]
2294
01:36:22,354 --> 01:36:25,190
That's it.
48 years of runnin'
2295
01:36:25,590 --> 01:36:29,528
Now the FBI will look for me
and they will look hard.
2296
01:36:30,963 --> 01:36:32,430
And I ain't goin' easy.
2297
01:36:33,331 --> 01:36:34,934
Run D. B. , run.
2298
01:36:36,501 --> 01:36:38,603
Run D. B. , run.
2299
01:36:40,405 --> 01:36:41,808
Run D. B. , run.
2300
01:36:45,443 --> 01:36:47,179
Run D. B. , run.
2301
01:36:48,781 --> 01:36:50,649
Run D. B. , run.
2302
01:36:57,689 --> 01:37:02,895
♪ Runnin' down the road
got the wind in my hair ♪
2303
01:37:02,929 --> 01:37:06,665
♪ Got enough fuel for Reno,
babe I'll meet you there ♪
2304
01:37:09,401 --> 01:37:14,706
♪ Tell you most people
wouldn't get this high ♪
2305
01:37:14,740 --> 01:37:16,441
♪ And I'm tailin'
down the highway ♪
2306
01:37:16,474 --> 01:37:18,443
♪ Got this gleam
in my eye ♪
2307
01:37:20,612 --> 01:37:22,849
♪ Run, run,
run, run, run, run ♪
2308
01:37:22,882 --> 01:37:26,318
♪ D. B. , D. B. run ♪
2309
01:37:26,351 --> 01:37:28,620
♪ Run, run,
run, run, run, run ♪
2310
01:37:28,653 --> 01:37:32,591
♪ D. B. , D. B. run ♪
2311
01:37:32,624 --> 01:37:37,930
♪ Run, oh keep runnin'
won't ever get caught ♪
2312
01:37:37,964 --> 01:37:41,600
♪ I'm gonna keep runnin'
'til the wheels come off ♪
2313
01:37:43,936 --> 01:37:49,541
♪ I'm heading straight west,
baby, into the sun ♪
2314
01:37:49,574 --> 01:37:55,513
♪ I'm on the freeway
inside of a car ♪
2315
01:37:55,547 --> 01:37:57,749
♪ Run, run,
run, run, run, run ♪
2316
01:37:57,783 --> 01:37:59,584
♪ D. B. , D. B. run ♪
2317
01:38:01,386 --> 01:38:03,488
♪ Run, run,
run, run, run, run ♪
2318
01:38:03,521 --> 01:38:06,926
♪ D. B. , D. B. run ♪
2319
01:38:06,959 --> 01:38:08,760
♪ Well my mama
she done told me ♪
2320
01:38:08,794 --> 01:38:12,798
♪ I was born to lose ♪
2321
01:38:12,832 --> 01:38:14,867
♪ All throughout
my lonely life ♪
2322
01:38:14,901 --> 01:38:17,402
♪ Damn, my woman
singing the lonely blues ♪
2323
01:38:17,435 --> 01:38:19,604
♪ Run, run,
run, run, run, run ♪
2324
01:38:19,638 --> 01:38:21,473
♪ D. B. , D. B. run ♪
2325
01:38:23,042 --> 01:38:25,443
♪ Run, run,
run, run, run, run ♪
2326
01:38:25,477 --> 01:38:29,514
♪ D. B. , D. B. run ♪
2327
01:38:32,919 --> 01:38:34,719
♪ Whoo,
keep running, boy ♪
2328
01:38:36,354 --> 01:38:37,890
♪ Got that look in your eye♪
2329
01:38:40,927 --> 01:38:43,695
♪ Run, run, baby ♪
2330
01:38:43,728 --> 01:38:45,730
♪ Run, run, run ♪
2331
01:38:46,798 --> 01:38:49,701
♪ Run, run, run ♪
2332
01:38:49,734 --> 01:38:52,604
♪ Run, run, run ♪
2333
01:38:52,637 --> 01:38:54,539
♪ Run, run, run ♪
2334
01:38:55,607 --> 01:38:57,977
♪ Run, run, run ♪
2335
01:38:58,010 --> 01:39:00,378
♪ Run, run,
run, run, run, run ♪
2336
01:39:00,412 --> 01:39:02,514
♪ D. B. , D. B. run ♪
2337
01:39:04,116 --> 01:39:09,989
♪ I've got a plan baby,
make things right ♪
2338
01:39:10,022 --> 01:39:13,658
♪ Finding out who
grabbed my case of dynamite ♪
2339
01:39:15,861 --> 01:39:19,899
♪ Criss-crossing baby,
jumping out of my seat ♪
2340
01:39:21,733 --> 01:39:24,703
♪ Skyjacking baby
going down for the win ♪
2341
01:39:27,006 --> 01:39:29,474
♪ Run, run,
run, run, run, run ♪
2342
01:39:29,507 --> 01:39:32,912
♪ D. B. , D. B. run ♪
2343
01:39:32,945 --> 01:39:35,081
♪ Run, run,
run, run, run, run ♪
2344
01:39:35,114 --> 01:39:38,683
♪ D. B. , D. B. run ♪
2345
01:39:38,717 --> 01:39:40,385
♪ Well my mama
she done told me ♪
2346
01:39:40,418 --> 01:39:42,854
♪ I was born to lose ♪
2347
01:39:44,890 --> 01:39:46,791
♪ All throughout my life ♪
2348
01:39:46,825 --> 01:39:48,894
♪ Damn, my woman
singing the lonely blues ♪
2349
01:39:48,928 --> 01:39:51,063
♪ Run, run
run, run, run, run ♪
2350
01:39:51,097 --> 01:39:54,766
♪ D. B. , D. B. run ♪
2351
01:39:54,799 --> 01:39:56,936
♪ Run, run
run, run, run, run ♪
2352
01:39:56,969 --> 01:40:00,839
♪ D. B. , D. B. run ♪
2353
01:40:00,872 --> 01:40:06,444
♪ Run, run, run
D. B. , D. B. run ♪
2354
01:40:06,478 --> 01:40:09,081
♪ Run, run,
run, run, run, run ♪
2355
01:40:09,115 --> 01:40:14,153
♪ D. B. , D. B. run ♪