- ♪ MTV ♪
- I'm Tami Roman.
I have been cheated on before.
You [bleep] my man when I was married to him.
I even wrote a book about it.
And I've made it my mission to help
suspicious lovers catch their cheating partners in the act.
Hold up.
- Hey, you brought this to my place of business?
How dare you? What is this?
- Oh!
But catching a player is not a one-person game.
- We all know he's been lying to everybody.
- Together with my relationship coaches...
- You have to say, "I'm gonna step up and do what's right."
- And stealthy investigation team,
we won't stop until we find the truth.
- They think they slick?
Well, we slicker.
- Are you ready to see the footage?
Once our investigation is complete,
the suspicious lover can team up
with the partner's other lover...
- Are you willing to, like, team up with me though?
Because I would like you to do this with me.
- Oh, [bleep].
- Or take down both of them in an undercover ambush.
- Who the [bleep] you think you are?
- Why the [bleep] y'all got cameras in my [bleep]--
what the [bleep] is wrong with you?
- Cheaters, beware.
- Don't play with me about my son.
- Your son?
- The truth doesn't cost anything.
There was a pregnancy scare.
But a lie could cost you everything.
- You gotta fundamentally say, I'm gonna be different.
- You know I love you? - You love me?
Act like it.
- You been playing with me for years,
and I never did [bleep].
- We can't even figure out what the [bleep]
is going on in here.
- Tami! Tami!
- Nobody should think they're better than anybody else,
because you've all [bleep] been played.
And that's just the truth.
This is "Caught in the Act: Unfaithful."
- ♪ Every day that I'm walking through ♪
♪ Fit drippin', and I got a bad attitude ♪
♪ Strike a hundred when I stunt on you ♪
♪ Everybody trying to guess what I'm about to do ♪
♪ When I pull up, it's a wild scene ♪
♪ Paparazzi want to put me in a magazine ♪
♪ Livin' life like a sexy scene ♪
- Hello, there. - How are you doing?
- I'm doing well. - Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you as well.
Thank you so much for coming in.
- Well, thank you for having me.
- Where are you from?
- I'm originally from Switzerland.
- What? I've always wanted to go there.
- Well, I highly recommend. - That sound good.
- Yeah.
- But, Leila, you feel like you might be having some issues
in your relationship with West, and I'm gonna
help you uncover the truth,
but before I do, tell me a little bit
about your relationship.
- So we met about four years ago
when I actually moved to the United States.
I just wanted to come here, make my dreams come true.
- Mm-hmm. - So...
- And what are those dreams? - Well, I'm into modeling.
- OK.
- I believe what caught his attention
was I was on the phone with my sister,
and I was speaking my native language,
which is French. - Oh, bonjour.
- Bonjour. - [speaks French]
- Yeah.
- [chuckles]
And he just right in asked for my contact,
my information. - Oh.
- We went on a date... - And how was that?
- And another one and another one.
- So you liked the first one? - We did.
We started to work out together.
Like, we really connected deeply.
I fell crazy in love with this guy.
So it's been now four years that we are in relationship.
- So, clearly, there was, like, this deep attraction.
- He's American. - Yeah.
- He was, you know, like-- - How he look?
- Good.
- Did he have on nice shoes when you met him?
- He did.
- Because you know that's important.
- I know. I look at the shoes.
- Yeah, yeah.
- And I like yours that you got on.
- That's important.
- He's my-- he's my superstar.
We just became official, and then we became
even more official when he proposed to me.
- Uh-huh, so how long did it take for him to propose?
You've been together for four years now.
- A little bit over a year. - Oh, OK.
- I mean, that's pretty quick, but, again, like--
- Yeah, I was like, "You got that good-good."
- Yeah, he took me to the beach.
He literally put the knee down and--
- Just dropped down in the sand?
- Just like that.
It was simple, but efficient, and perfect,
and straight to the point, just like our relationship.
- It feels so fairy tale. - It is.
You know, how far can I take this?
- Mm. Do you want kids?
- I do. We've been trying.
- You've been trying?
- We just decided to push the wedding
situation because, obviously, with COVID, nobody can travel.
- Right.
COVID kind of slowed down everything...
- Everything.
- The wedding, having the baby, all of that.
- The miscarriage did.
- Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. - Yeah.
- I had three miscarriages with my husband now,
so I totally understand that emotion,
what you're feeling. - Mm-hmm.
I believe, you know, the universe decided
that either it was not the right moment,
but now I'm wondering, is it the right person?
I am not wearing my ring.
- I was gonna say, "I don't see a ring."
- No, no.
- Why do you feel all of a sudden
that things have changed?
- Oh, it's not all of a sudden.
I had that gut feeling that something was going on.
I started to notice odd behavior.
You know, we haven't been intimate like that.
- Was it hot and heavy in the beginning,
and that's how you noticed there's a trickle off?
- Yeah, it was boiling hot at first.
Now, we're just, you know, existing next to each other.
- Mm. - I went through his phone.
- And if you look for something,
you're gonna find it. - You're gonna find it.
- So what you find? - Conversation with this woman.
Her name is Chella.
- OK, and what were they talking about?
- It was really like who are you?
I'm interested.
I checked on his contact for her name.
- Mm-hmm.
- And I didn't find anything, so...
- OK, OK.
- No, so he actually registered her number under Bond,
which was one of his best friends.
- So this person was in the DMs?
- Yes.
- And they were talking for a month?
- Yes. - Dropped the number...
- Mm-hmm. - And then he moved it to text?
- Mm-hmm.
- So now we've determined that he was a sneaky liar?
- Mm-hmm.
- What other red flags have you noticed?
- You know, I don't get to see his family that often.
- Do they live in another state?
- No, they--it's-- no, it's not even that.
It's just that he doesn't really include me that much.
- Why is that? - He's very busy.
He's a busy man. - Girl.
[tense music]
- I just--
I feel like I've been so alone throughout this journey.
I moved all the way to the United States by myself.
- Mm-hmm.
- He is definitely the only person
I have out here.
- Well, you know what I want to tell you is over here
in the US-- I don't know if y'all have it
over in Switzerland--
we got something called the monkey bars.
- Mm-hmm.
- And the only way you can get across
from one side of that monkey bar
to the other side is you've got to let go,
and grab the next thing, and able to move forward.
- Mm-hmm.
- Now, I don't know if West is doing anything,
but you've given me a lot of information
that I definitively want to find out the truth for you.
I want his social media. - You got it.
- I want his address because what I have to do now
is get my investigation team,
give them all the information that you've given me,
and then put him under surveillance.
- Right.
- Whatever we uncover, if we uncover anything,
you're gonna have to be strong enough
to get across the monkey bars.
- I'm ready for it.
- Come on. - Thank you.
- Ah, oh, I hate it when this happens.
[laughs] - Thank you so much.
- But I'm gonna get to the bottom of it.
- Thank you.
[upbeat hip-hop music]
- ♪ Yo, always keep it low-key ♪
♪ Good sport on low speed ♪
♪ Shades on, that's low beam ♪
♪ Haters jockin' like fans ♪
♪ ♪
- My husband, Mike, is assisting me today.
I was stalking West out on social media.
He has posted a selfie here at the cigar lounge.
Seems to love himself a little bit.
It appears that he is still here.
We're gonna send Mike in on this one
and see what he can find out.
Mike will be using these spy glasses today.
They have audio. They have visual.
We're going to get some eyes inside of the location.
Try to be discreet. - OK.
- Get him.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- OK, it's a start.
Oh, here comes West.
He's alone.
Let's see if he's going home alone tonight.
[upbeat music]
- ♪ Don't worry about me ♪
- Don't get too close. We don't want him to notice us.
- ♪ If you look any longer, you'll not be invited ♪
- He's getting on the highway now.
♪ ♪
We're nearing West's house now. He is by himself.
For the most part, behaved tonight.
So we'll start again tomorrow and see what he's up to then.
♪ ♪
[soft electronic music]
♪ ♪
We've been staking out West at his office.
We've been here a few hours now.
♪ ♪
- There he is.
- Stay down.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
Let's follow.
Stay back a little bit. - OK.
- Ah, this car cut us off.
Got to move, or we're going to lose him.
[car horn blaring] Watch out.
There he is up ahead.
Thankfully, did not lose him.
♪ ♪
He's parking at this office plaza now.
♪ ♪
Mike, let's pull up.
♪ ♪
There's a bunch of businesses here.
It looks like there's a dentist,
an accounting office.
There's a real estate office. There he is.
Let's see if we can see the number.
1774.
Let's see if I could find what that is.
♪ ♪
Looks like it's a fertility clinic.
Leila didn't mention that she was pregnant.
Oh, they do IVF, insemination, egg freezing.
There's so many different options
that he could be there for.
♪ ♪
They're coming out now with another female.
It's not Leila. They're holding hands.
This is not just some fling.
Leila has no clue.
♪ ♪
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- They left separately.
We're gonna track him, see where he's going now.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
We're back at it, day three.
We camped out at West's house, and now we're tailing him.
♪ ♪
We've been tracking West.
Looks like he met up with a girl.
That does appear to be the same girl
from the fertility clinic. - Yeah.
♪ ♪
- This is more than just a friendship.
♪ ♪
We need to get a visual,
but I need to change my look up.
If you want to put on this black jacket,
I'm going to put the pin camera in this jacket
to get all of the audio and video of them
inside of here. - Good luck.
♪ ♪
[laughter]
[indistinct chatter]
- Hello.
- Mm, mm. What's that? Mm.
- Looks like they're doing some kind
of cake tasting in there.
- This is physical, emotional, and they're starting
a whole life together.
[dramatic hip-hop music]
- ♪ What they feed to the masses ♪
♪ Is always [...] so tragic ♪
♪ That's why I'm ruthless ♪ - Hi, Leila.
- How are you? - How are you?
- I'm good. How are you?
- I'm doing well.
- Good to see you. Oh, my gosh.
- Have a seat, Leila. - Thank you.
- I'm going to introduce you to Coach Ken,
and he is a relationship life coach expert.
- Nice. - I see your anxiety.
- Oh, my gosh.
- We're gonna be here to support you...
- Nice.
- And help you process those emotions.
- OK. - OK.
- So my investigation team, they sent me some footage.
- Yes.
- And that's why I called you in.
But before I show you the footage, I have to ask you,
do you, in fact, want to see it?
- Yeah, I went through this,
you know, journey for a reason.
- OK.
You ready?
- As much as I can be. - OK.
We started our surveillance.
So he ended up at this cigar lounge.
- Yeah, that's totally him. - [laughs]
Having a good time, got with his homeboy.
So he came out, and he went home.
Nothing happened.
- OK, I mean, I love that.
- Yes, exactly. - Nice.
- The next day, he ended up at this location.
It was a fertility clinic.
He went in by himself, and then he came out
with this one. - That's Chella.
- The girl from Instagram? - Yeah.
- Oh. - OK.
[dramatic music]
This is getting...
♪ ♪
- So I want to show you the last one.
- Is it getting worse and worse?
Just so I can--
- You want me to answer, or you want to look?
- I want to look. - OK.
These two are out on a date, yet another one.
♪ ♪
What is that, Ken? What is that?
- It look like a cake tasting. - That's it.
- Uh-uh, uh-uh, OK, I'm-- I'm good.
- And I don't know if you noticed,
but she had on a wedding ring.
Let's talk about everything that...
- Oh, my gosh. - That we've just seen.
- I don't know if I am so mad.
I don't know if I'm so disappointed.
It's just like--
I have-- I just don't know what I feel.
- It looks like he's living two lives that look similar.
He's living the same life with this--
this young lady that he's living with you.
- He proposed to both of us. - Mm-hmm.
♪ ♪
- I just--I just-- how?
Like, how-- where does he get
all this energy to just be doing the same thing
with two different women?
- He's not doing the same thing with two different women.
He's not going, you guys had a loss,
well, baby, let's go figure out
what happened with that and if...
- No, he don't care.
- If we can have another baby.
He didn't go to the fertility clinic with you.
He decided he wanted a future with that young lady.
And I'm only saying this because I've been
on this Earth a long time,
and I've been hurt several times.
All my baggage was too much for them.
Being involved with them
added some more luggage to my set
that I had, all my bags.
And then I found my husband,
who was the right person for me.
And you came to this country by yourself
and didn't have anybody else, no other shoulder to lean on,
and he presented himself to be that person
that would be your confidant, your shoulder,
your ride-or-die.
And then you made him your world.
- Right, yeah.
- And sometimes when a person feels like the person
they look out at has no other outlets
other than them, it becomes too much for them.
- Right.
And maybe he proposed because, look, I don't want to lose you
or I don't want to hurt you.
But either way,
somebody is gonna get hurt in the end.
- Yeah, those actions need to have consequences.
Like, I can't-- does she know about me?
Do you know if she knows about me?
- I--I don't know.
- Well, she gonna know about me.
- I mean--
- And he's gonna know about me, too.
He think--he thought that was easy to be with me.
Watch how it is easy to cheat on me.
Watch, watch.
- Well, the next thing we do is present you
with two options, one of them being,
you can actually sit down with the lady, Chella,
and have a conversation with her,
and then you guys will team up
and go talk to West.
Or you can wait until West is with Chella
and confront both of them together.
- There's a lot you don't know.
What men do, we gonna lie.
If I can keep y'all from being together,
getting together, I can keep the lie going.
- Yeah.
So I guess just pulling up on him with her...
- Mm-hmm. - Now what?
- Exactly.
- I think I'm gonna team up. - Okay.
- So what I'm gonna do now is I'm going to contact
my investigation team. - OK, OK.
- And I'll call you as soon as we get some information.
- Thank you. - Don't worry about it.
- So nice to meet you. Thank you, guys.
- OK.
I hated to see her crying like that.
- I did, too.
[soft dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Thank you.
We're gonna pick up Leila.
♪ ♪
How are you, honey? - I'm doing good.
How are you? - I'm doing well.
My private investigation team was able to identify
the young lady for real.
They found out her name is Rochelle
and that she's a photographer. - Oh.
- They got the location of her studio.
- Nice.
- And so they booked a photo shoot for you.
- Are you kidding me? - No, I'm not.
- So I'm just gonna walk in and pretend
that I'm here to have a photo shoot?
- Yes. - Got it.
- And then you're gonna say, "And I am..."
- Or--and the most important question is,
does she know you?
- Well, I hope she doesn't know me,
because it would be real bad for her.
- OK. Well, she seems clear.
- She's clear.
- We are here.
- You ready? - As much as I can be.
- Let me let you out.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- [sighs]
♪ ♪
- So as low as your camera can go.
And usually, like, the best-- - Hello.
- Well, hello, there.
Oh, my God, you're so hot. - So are you.
Hello. - Hello. How are you?
- Leila. Nice to meet you. - Hello.
- Hi. - I'm Rochella.
Nice to meet you. - I'm West's fiancée.
Nice to meet you, too.
- How are you West's fiancée? I'm confused.
- Well, this is what I'm trying to figure out.
- And there's cameras here? Like, what is going on?
- Yes, love, yes. The cameras are here.
That's the reality. We have a lot to talk about.
My heart is beating so fast right now.
We have been trying to have a baby
for over three years, fiancée for two years,
in a relationship for four years.
- It's only been two years for me, so like--
- So yes, honey, he's playing you.
- Look, me and West are together.
I don't know what you're talking about.
- How long? How long? How long?
- It doesn't even matter. That's my man.
- It does matter. So we have a problem.
- Let me get up in here.
- Well, he's with me now, so that's--
- Where do you think he is when he's not with you?
- He's always with me. - He's not, honey!
- So that's why this is not even making sense right now.
- He is not, honey.
So now it's either you get on my team
or you get on his team.
But if you get on his team, you figure that out.
- Like, I feel like this is, like, such a ambush.
I got all these cameras. It's all like--
- No, it is-- - Hi, hi.
Rochelle? - Rochella.
- Rochella? - Yes.
- My name is Tami Roman, and you are on a show
called "Caught in the Act: Unfaithful."
- [scoffs]
- That's why all the cameras are here.
- It doesn't even matter because I'm with West now,
so it doesn't matter. - Honey.
- Whatever you guys had, it's over.
- What you don't understand... - It's done.
- Is that we are with West.
You want to stay with a man that's been lying to you?
- He proposed to me on the beach.
- So did he with me. Wake up.
Hello, this is your reality.
- You didn't know he was involved with someone else,
correct? - Absolutely not.
- OK. - Absolutely not.
- No, that's what I thought.
- There is no thought of you at all.
- He had a whole situation already.
He had a whole fiancée already.
I don't know if you do, but I want
to get to the bottom of it.
- How about you guys sit down?
- I do need to sit down.
- I apologize that we had to come up
in your place of business like this,
but we do what we have to
to get the two people together
that need to have a conversation.
Leila, are there any specific questions
that you have for Rochella? - Are you pregnant?
♪ ♪
- No, but I did get pregnant, and I had a miscarriage.
And I'm currently engaged to him.
We're gonna have engagement photos tomorrow.
Like, we have a whole thing set up.
Like--like--like, everything is just like--
- Now, when was the miscarriage?
- This was in June of last year.
- Oh, OK. - Yes.
- OK, OK.
- Well, I had mine this last year in April, so--
- And you all were pregnant at the same time?
- Yeah. - OK.
- What if we didn't have no miscarriage?
- West is running a playbook.
The emotional connection that he's building with you all,
he knows that works.
He knows how to pull on the strings.
He knows how to talk about a proposal.
He knows how to talk about babies,
the things that make you or get you connected in
a way like you are.
- Ugh, I'm just trying to wrap my brain around everything
that you guys just told me.
You know, like, this is a lot.
- I think that it was a big step
for her to come here.
She's been very vulnerable with you, Rochella.
And now, how do you feel about those things?
And then what's going on on your side?
♪ ♪
- Well, I guess we just have to talk to West.
Like, I would need to talk to him, you know?
- If you talk to him on your side
or I talk to him on my side, he's gonna continue to lie.
♪ ♪
- So you're saying we need to go to him together?
- Yeah. - Would you be open to that?
♪ ♪
- Make him accountable for the things that he's done.
When he's confronted by both of you and he realizes,
I'm caught, I'm busted, the gig is up.
- Yeah.
- I heard you say you guys have an engagement shoot tomorrow.
- Yeah.
- Would you be willing to allow us
to come back to that shoot?
♪ ♪
- Yes. - You sure?
- Nice. - OK.
- Let's get engaged.
♪ ♪
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- We're finally at the day of reckoning.
- Yes.
- Rochella was gracious enough to let us put cameras
inside of the studio for this alleged
engagement photo shoot.
- We're good in here.
I think we got everything covered,
huge angle. We're gonna catch this guy.
- If they don't hold him accountable,
we're gonna have to hold him accountable.
- Absolutely. I think we're here.
♪ ♪
- Hello. - Hello, how are you?
- I'm doing good.
- OK. - How are you?
Hello. - Hey, Leila, how are you?
- Good, good. - OK.
- How you feel? - I'm nervous.
- You remember what I told you, though?
- I know. He's gonna try-- I know.
- He's going to try to gaslight you.
- Mm-hmm.
- And you've got to hold him accountable...
- Mm-hmm.
- For what you know.
- At the end of the day, I'm still walking out
with my head up. That's my choice.
- So you seem clear about your decision.
You're walking out. - Yeah.
- Even if he says "No, I love you, I made a mistake"?
- Eeh, yeah.
That's gonna be the tough part.
I'm not--I don't--
I'm not here to sugarcoat it.
It's literally gonna be the hard part.
I just want to have my closures and see how it goes.
- When the bullets start flying,
we're there to support you. - Mm-hmm.
- So you're not alone.
You're not out there by yourself.
- Thank you. I appreciate you guys.
- We're here.
Now, our investigators were able to put in hidden cameras
throughout the entire facility, OK?
- Mm-hmm.
- And we're just gonna take a little look-see,
see how they're getting down at their engagement photo shoot.
- That's them right here?
- Yes.
- Oh, my God, he didn't say that.
He didn't say that. Ooh, my--ooh.
- But yeah, you gonna make him feel awkward.
- I'ma confirm that to you, honey.
- Don't worry about it. We got you.
- Got you. - OK?
- All right, you got this.
- And when you open that garage door,
stand there and stare at him for a minute.
- Say less.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
Oh, so we're getting engaged?
- Bro, what the... - Can I be part of the party?
- [bleep]? Hold on, what you--
- Congratulation, honey. - What the [bleep] is going on?
- Why can't I taste the cake, too?
- So only me, right? Only me, right?
- Why can't I taste the cake, too?
- What's going on?
- Rochella said, "Only me, too, right?"
- Only me, right? - Wait, for real?
- Come here. - Why the [bleep] you got...
- You trying to have kids... - 10 damn cameras in here?
- With two women. - It doesn't matter.
- But if you--if you would give me a chance to explain.
- Go ahead.
- If you would give me a chance to explain.
- Go ahead. - What are you talking about?
- I want to hear this explanation my damn self.
- Go ahead.
- But if you give me a chance to explain.
- I'm listening.
- Listen, you got to trust issues.
The fact that you going through my phone and [bleep].
- This is why I have trust issues.
- But listen, the fact that you going
through my phone and [bleep] and you telling me,
"Oh, what is this? What is that?"
It's gonna push me that direction.
- Oh, too her? - Yeah.
- No, but you can go.
I told you the door is open.
Why don't you be a man? - You could have talked to me.
- You can't get me pregnant and her at the same time.
- But listen to me. Listen to me.
- At the [bleep] same time. - You could have talked to me.
- Listen, let me tell you one thing.
- No, [bleep] that. - Let me--
- Tell her--tell her--
tell her what you was just telling me.
- Oh, that Beyoncé and Jay-Z, huh?
- What are you talking about? - What is it, Beyoncé or Jay-Z?
- Yeah, she heard everything. So what's up?
Why are you lying now? - Chella.
- Chella? That's what you-- all you have to say to me?
- You know what? - You know? Look.
All right, so let me explain.
- Don't [bleep] touch me right now.
- You ain't got to put your hands up
because I ain't put my hands on you.
- No, you got to-- - Who you talking to, [bleep]?
- OK.
- We were at a point that-- - I don't care.
- We were at a point in our relationship,
right, it was turmoil.
[bleep] was bad. - And so what?
You could have left.
Why you have to do a double life?
You proposed to her on the [bleep] beach like me.
- It's crazy to me how you're only [bleep] addressing her
right now, like he wasn't just sitting
on this [bleep] couch with me. - But you got to understand.
- No.
- You got to understand, too, Chella.
This--this was the woman I love, and I still do love--
I love this woman. That's not a lie.
- [laughs] - Oh, wow.
- That's not a lie. That's not a lie.
That's not a-- - That's interesting to hear.
Hello, West, how are you?
- I ain't too good. - Yeah, bet.
- I can see that.
Well, let me introduce myself.
My name is Tami Roman, and you are on a show called
"Caught in the Act: Unfaithful."
- [claps]
- This is my partner, Ken Canyon.
- So you decided to go to a [bleep] TV show...
- So you decided to go to another woman
and get her pregnant?
- When you could have talked to me, though?
- So what's this on my hand? What's this on my hand?
- Ladies, let's all give West a chance to explain.
These two ladies decided to have a conversation
without you and come together tonight
so that we all can have a group conversation.
Are you willing to do that?
- I'm willing. - OK, well, let's figure out--
- But that should have been--
- Let's figure out how to sit down.
- Yeah, she's on my team, honey.
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Yeah, she's on my team, honey. - Lei?
- Let me talk to you.
- Do you see everything that happened?
- Uh-huh. - Look at this.
- Look at this [bleep].
- Cheater.
- West, let me have a conversation with you.
I know what you just experienced
is not what you thought was gonna be happening today.
- I know this is a lot for you.
At the end of the day,
you still must speak your truth.
- I feel like I have my whole world
that is literally collapsing.
- Lei got to understand, right, we went through a lot
in our relationship. - Yes.
- We were having troubles.
- She did explain to me that there was a miscarriage
and all of that. - That did something to me.
You know what I'm saying? It did something deep down.
I'm big on family. - OK.
- Right? - Mm-hmm.
Do you come from a big family?
- I do. - OK, OK.
- I got eight other siblings.
- Mm-hmm, so that's what inspired you--
- I gotta keep it going.
- To want to have a big family?
- Right. - OK.
- I'm not trying to validate what I've done.
But at the same time, I'm human.
- Yeah. - You know what I'm saying?
- I understand. I understand.
- So I'm looking for an outlet, and Chella was that--
that person for me.
- It's good. It's good.
- Oh, Lord. - It's OK.
Rochella? - Yes?
- Would you mind sitting?
I know this is new for you.
You've been knowing about this,
so you've had time for this to sink in.
She hasn't.
But Leila came to us so that she could get the truth,
and we wanted to provide that truth for both of you
because we didn't know whether you knew or not, so--
- It's the fact that he has nothing
to say to me right now.
It's the fact that only her feelings matter.
He's only addressed her.
Like, it's like I'm not even here.
- Right.
- But I saw you go to a fertility clinic with Chella
even though she had a miscarriage.
- She did.
- So why was she the one you opted to do
that process with and not Leila?
- Chella felt like my outlet. - OK.
- I felt down and out, like I lost everything.
- Because of the loss of the baby with Leila?
- Right.
Once I figured out Chella was pregnant,
I was like, "Well, maybe this is life's way
"of telling me, OK, maybe I got to choose
a different direction." - So then why not let Leila go?
- Because I love her.
- But you know you couldn't be with both of them.
Or what--was that what you were gonna try to do?
- I guess I felt like I can have my cake and eat it, too.
I don't--
- This man has been telling me
that he only wants to be with me.
It's only me. We're gonna have a family.
We're gonna get married.
You see what I'm wearing? This is my engagement photos.
This is for our engagement. - So now you see?
- Yeah, that I'm a [bleep] fool.
- No, you're not a fool.
You're just a woman that was in love
to a guy who told you lies.
- And I realized I'm selfish. I realized it, you know?
- So we got to the bottom of things.
- I get it. - Right?
- Let's figure it out.
Let's see what's going on.
- All right, you're willing to be honest?
- Yeah. - OK.
OK, ladies, we're back.
Had a very nice conversation with West,
and so he is very open to having this conversation,
answering any questions you want to ask.
- How about you explain everything that you
just said to me on this couch? - Right?
Explain to Beyoncé what Jay-Z said.
- Yeah.
- Lei, you got to understand, I love you
with all my heart, right?
But also we went through our trials and tribulations
along the way, right?
The fact that we were having troubles conceiving,
we were going through that.
So at one point, I felt broken. I felt empty.
And this felt like it wasn't there anymore.
- OK, you could have walked away, West.
- That's easier said than done. You making it--
Lei, if you would have gotten pregnant successfully,
if that pregnancy would have happened,
Chella probably wouldn't even be here.
But you got to understand, like I was saying...
- How could you put that on me?
- I'm human. I'm not--
- How can you put that on me? - Lei, Lei, oh, my God.
- I was carrying the baby. I was carrying the baby.
- Right.
- How could you even put me in this box like, "Oh,
"if it wasn't for you doing what the [bleep] you doing,
then this woman wouldn't be in my life"
like I'm not someone that's special to you,
someone that you care about?
- West, man-to-man, the truth is
there are two women that love you,
that you've professed love for,
that you've lost babies with.
Can you see how they would feel what they feel today
and why the betrayal--
- I don't know why your head is down. Like...
- Can you see the anguish that they feel?
- Yes, I see the betrayal.
I get it, but you also have to understand my side, right,
because I felt like I came to a crossroads in my life
where I had to make very critical decisions.
- Yeah.
- Do I want to go left, or do I want to go right?
- So where are you going?
Are you going left, or are you going right?
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- So where are you going?
Are you going left, or are you going right?
- I don't know, Lei. - You know what?
- Nowhere. - You're going nowhere.
But guess what? - This is--Lei.
- I am gone.
I sat down, and I listened to your [bleep]
and you crying in front of two women
that you've been lying for for two years.
- It's fine.
Y'all go ahead and fix y'all [bleep] relationship.
It's all good.
This is some [bleep] [bleep].
- Listen, he may not have addressed you
out there because, at this point,
he's trying to find a way out of this.
But you do matter.
And because you matter,
this matters that you stand up for yourself.
- OK. - All right.
- I still gave you all the freedom
that you wanted. I still gave you your space.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Tami, I'm sitting here trying to make
a [bleep] real effort to talk to the both of them
right now, right? Where do I go from here?
They don't understand that yes, I can be in love
with the both of y'all.
- That's not the way it works, baby,
because you can't have your cake and eat it, too.
You got to, at some point, say, "I have to be man enough."
Bitches ain't out here trying to [bleep] with boys.
- Mm-mm. - They don't want that.
Unless you told them straight up,
"I got this situation over here, but I [bleep] with you.
"You want to be a part of this?
You know what it is because I got a lady."
It's some bitches out there that would take that.
- But I'm not.
Look at me.
I don't want to be with you.
I'm looking at you in the eyes,
and I'm making it clear for everybody.
I stand up for myself.
I have so much to do for myself.
I have a life full of opportunities.
I need to love myself.
That's it.
- So, Rochella, what do you want to do?
- I'm good. I don't have nothing--
- You lost both ladies.
- We'll see how long it lasts. - [laughs]
Oh, my gosh, a lifetime, baby.
- I really am sorry about that.
But hopefully, you ladies will be able
to find some closure.
[soft dramatic music]
But we're gonna get up out of here.
- Thank you so much. - Thank you so much.
- Thank you. - Thank you so much.
I appreciate you. - Thank you so much.
- Sorry about it. - Thank you.
- OK, Ken.
[upbeat pop music]
- All right.
♪ ♪
- We got this. I'm sorry.
- I'm sorry, too.
♪ ♪
- Maybe this is God's way or life's way of just--
just addressing me and telling me,
"Hey, you doing wrong."
So you're still not gonna get what you want in the end.
You know, it is what it is.
I got to do what I got to do, move on.
- I will definitely not be back with him.
There is not a chance in the world
that I would waste my time with a man like that.
He doesn't know how to take accountability
for what he's doing and what he has been doing.
He's still a little boy, and he needs to grow up.
And I don't deserve that.
- I know that if we had a baby,
things would be different for a certain amount of time.
And after a while, he would probably be bored
or just crave attention.
I think it takes a very strong man
to handle a woman like me.
I have so much to give to the right person.
[dramatic music]
- ♪ I don't know what I'm fighting for anymore ♪
♪ I try to explain all these feelings ♪
♪ But you just run out the door ♪
♪ ♪
- Hey, there, Leila. How are you?
- I'm good, Tami. How are you?
- I am doing well.
I know it was a lot that night we were all together,
but I need to hear about you and West.
- It was a lot.
I got home and just decided to take my life back,
put West on the side
because I just needed to regroup.
- OK.
- So I'm taking time for myself,
and I believe that with doing that,
I will probably be able to attract somebody
that can have the same values as me, you know?
- I just feel like I'm looking at a woman
who is self-assured, who is empowered,
who is all about her business now.
So even though it didn't go the way you wanted it to go,
I think it went the way it was supposed to go.
- Absolutely. I found myself.
I lost, but I gained so much more.
- Yes. - So...
- All right, good talking to you, Leila.
- Good talking to you, too. - OK.
- Take care. - Bye, beautiful.
- Bye.
♪ ♪
Cheaters, beware.
- You [bleep] kissed her, you idiot.
- Next time you want to be unfaithful, think again.
Let me tell you one [bleep] thing!
Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord.
Oh, Lord!
Because I just might...
- Oh, God, she's running.
- Catch you in the act.
[dramatic music]