1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:03,803 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:03,803 --> 00:00:05,271 - I'm Tami Roman. 3 00:00:05,271 --> 00:00:07,240 I have been cheated on before. 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,210 - You [bleep] my man when I was married to him. 5 00:00:10,210 --> 00:00:12,278 - I even wrote a book about it. 6 00:00:12,278 --> 00:00:13,880 And I've made it my mission 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,448 to help suspicious lovers 8 00:00:15,448 --> 00:00:17,384 catch their cheating partners in the act. 9 00:00:17,384 --> 00:00:18,685 Hold up. - Man, you brought this 10 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:20,286 to my place of business? How dare you? 11 00:00:20,286 --> 00:00:21,588 What is this? - Ooh. 12 00:00:21,588 --> 00:00:23,256 - Oh! 13 00:00:23,256 --> 00:00:25,759 Together with my relationship coaches... 14 00:00:25,759 --> 00:00:26,860 - You gotta tell about the insecurities 15 00:00:26,860 --> 00:00:28,061 that you have. 16 00:00:28,061 --> 00:00:29,396 That's how y'all work through it. 17 00:00:29,396 --> 00:00:30,830 - This is a situation where you have to say, 18 00:00:30,830 --> 00:00:32,866 "I'm gonna step up and do what's right." 19 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:35,301 - And stealthy investigation team... 20 00:00:35,301 --> 00:00:37,804 - They think they slick, well, we slicker. 21 00:00:37,804 --> 00:00:41,141 - We won't stop until we find the truth. 22 00:00:41,141 --> 00:00:43,042 Cheaters beware. 23 00:00:43,042 --> 00:00:46,312 - I'm [bleep] torn. I love 'em both. 24 00:00:46,312 --> 00:00:49,382 - You gotta fundamentally say, "I'm gonna be different." 25 00:00:49,382 --> 00:00:50,850 - Who the [bleep] you think you are? 26 00:00:50,850 --> 00:00:52,685 - Why the [bleep] y'all got cameras in my crib? 27 00:00:52,685 --> 00:00:53,820 What the [bleep] is wrong with you? 28 00:00:53,820 --> 00:00:56,055 - [screaming] 29 00:00:56,556 --> 00:00:58,091 - Nobody should think they're better 30 00:00:58,091 --> 00:00:59,626 than anybody else, 31 00:00:59,626 --> 00:01:01,394 'cause y'all all [bleep] been played, 32 00:01:01,394 --> 00:01:03,329 and that's just the truth. 33 00:01:03,329 --> 00:01:06,533 This is "Caught in the Act: Unfaithful." 34 00:01:09,978 --> 00:01:11,947 - ♪ Before we start, boy, you can keep it ♪ 35 00:01:11,947 --> 00:01:13,815 ♪ I'm not impressed with fancy cars ♪ 36 00:01:13,815 --> 00:01:16,284 ♪ On the boulevard, boy, you can keep it ♪ 37 00:01:16,752 --> 00:01:18,720 - Jessica, hi. - Nice to meet you. 38 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:19,988 - How are you? 39 00:01:19,988 --> 00:01:22,624 We'll just have a seat on the sofa there. 40 00:01:22,624 --> 00:01:24,526 So pretty. - Thank you. You too. 41 00:01:24,526 --> 00:01:27,129 [chuckles] - Now, you reached out to us 42 00:01:27,129 --> 00:01:29,798 because you feel like your partner Evan 43 00:01:29,798 --> 00:01:31,600 may be unfaithful. 44 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,569 But I need to hear a little bit about your relationship first. 45 00:01:34,569 --> 00:01:37,005 - So Evan and I, we've known each other 46 00:01:37,005 --> 00:01:39,274 since we were actually in elementary school. 47 00:01:39,274 --> 00:01:40,575 - Really? - Both of us started 48 00:01:40,575 --> 00:01:42,177 to do our own things in life. 49 00:01:42,177 --> 00:01:44,479 He started with his music career. 50 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:46,548 Like, I was just scrolling through my Instagram. 51 00:01:46,548 --> 00:01:48,684 And it was, like, a reel so it just started playing. 52 00:01:48,684 --> 00:01:50,452 I was like, "Ooh, this new song is good." 53 00:01:50,452 --> 00:01:51,720 And then when I saw that it was him, I was like... 54 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,023 [gasps] "He--doggonit, no way." - What? 55 00:01:55,023 --> 00:01:56,925 What happened after that? 56 00:01:56,925 --> 00:01:58,460 - I made a dance to the song. 57 00:01:58,460 --> 00:02:00,228 - Oh, so you did a lot for this song. 58 00:02:00,228 --> 00:02:01,697 - Yeah. - [laughs] 59 00:02:01,697 --> 00:02:03,331 - And then I posted it. And I--I don't think 60 00:02:03,331 --> 00:02:05,500 that it was, like, the dance did so well 61 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:07,235 or the dance helped him that much, 62 00:02:07,235 --> 00:02:08,804 but it was the thought that counted for him. 63 00:02:08,804 --> 00:02:11,173 And what he likes to remind me of is, like, 64 00:02:11,173 --> 00:02:12,741 he's in love with me his whole life. 65 00:02:12,741 --> 00:02:15,777 But, like, this is something that I was finding out later. 66 00:02:15,777 --> 00:02:17,913 - Because how long have you guys been together? 67 00:02:17,913 --> 00:02:19,014 - A year. 68 00:02:19,414 --> 00:02:21,183 - And how did it transition 69 00:02:21,183 --> 00:02:24,052 to this year-long relationship? 70 00:02:24,052 --> 00:02:25,420 - Slowly. 71 00:02:25,420 --> 00:02:28,457 He's not in town a lot. - Okay. 72 00:02:28,457 --> 00:02:30,625 - And so a lot of the times that we hang out, 73 00:02:30,625 --> 00:02:32,294 we're, like, with a big group of people. 74 00:02:32,294 --> 00:02:34,362 - Okay. - But when he's in work mode-- 75 00:02:34,362 --> 00:02:35,964 like, even right now, it's-- 76 00:02:35,964 --> 00:02:38,667 it's impossible to even communicate at all. 77 00:02:38,667 --> 00:02:39,835 - Mm. 78 00:02:39,835 --> 00:02:41,803 - Like, we only live 45 minutes apart, 79 00:02:41,803 --> 00:02:45,941 but I feel like there's a lack of want for me 80 00:02:45,941 --> 00:02:47,576 that I have for him. 81 00:02:47,576 --> 00:02:49,444 - I understand what you're going through 82 00:02:49,444 --> 00:02:51,146 when you talk about having a relationship 83 00:02:51,146 --> 00:02:52,848 with a musician, 84 00:02:52,848 --> 00:02:54,483 because my ex-husband was 85 00:02:54,483 --> 00:02:56,318 a professional basketball player. 86 00:02:56,318 --> 00:02:59,087 And their first love 87 00:02:59,087 --> 00:03:02,057 is the thing that they are doing. 88 00:03:02,691 --> 00:03:04,626 - ♪ I been puttin' in the work, yeah ♪ 89 00:03:04,626 --> 00:03:06,128 ♪ They say they gave up ♪ 90 00:03:06,128 --> 00:03:07,863 ♪ Through the stain upon my shirt, yeah ♪ 91 00:03:07,863 --> 00:03:13,502 - For you, music is Evan's first love. 92 00:03:13,502 --> 00:03:16,938 Why do you feel it's so important for you 93 00:03:16,938 --> 00:03:19,708 to keep this relationship? 94 00:03:19,708 --> 00:03:22,210 - I think he's good for me in so many ways. 95 00:03:22,210 --> 00:03:24,379 He wants to keep me happy 96 00:03:24,379 --> 00:03:26,815 and not worrying so much. 97 00:03:26,815 --> 00:03:29,651 Which is what I'm told more often than anything 98 00:03:29,651 --> 00:03:31,620 is I worry too much. - Mm-hmm. 99 00:03:31,620 --> 00:03:34,823 Usually, that thought process comes from something that 100 00:03:34,823 --> 00:03:37,025 we've experienced in our past. - Yeah. 101 00:03:37,025 --> 00:03:38,994 I've been through the wringer. 102 00:03:38,994 --> 00:03:42,597 I mean, I've caught someone in a boyfriend's bed. 103 00:03:42,597 --> 00:03:43,899 - Mm. 104 00:03:43,899 --> 00:03:45,967 Now, see, for me, 105 00:03:45,967 --> 00:03:47,569 I had to check myself, like, 106 00:03:47,569 --> 00:03:49,304 over the course of my life, right? 107 00:03:49,304 --> 00:03:53,775 Because I would get into relationships with people 108 00:03:53,775 --> 00:03:55,877 and everything would be going great. 109 00:03:55,877 --> 00:04:00,515 And I would self-sabotage the relationship because I'm-- 110 00:04:00,515 --> 00:04:02,851 I had been hurt so many times before. 111 00:04:02,851 --> 00:04:04,553 And then I end up with somebody good 112 00:04:04,553 --> 00:04:07,455 and I convince myself that there's something wrong. 113 00:04:07,455 --> 00:04:08,857 Could that be what's happening here? 114 00:04:08,857 --> 00:04:10,091 - Yeah. Definitely. 115 00:04:10,091 --> 00:04:12,294 - And why do you think that is? 116 00:04:12,294 --> 00:04:13,762 - 'Cause I'm scared. 117 00:04:13,762 --> 00:04:16,731 - What are you scared of? - Of them leaving me. 118 00:04:18,967 --> 00:04:22,804 - Is there something that you're not sharing with me 119 00:04:22,804 --> 00:04:24,840 that would help me be able to help you? 120 00:04:26,107 --> 00:04:27,409 - [exhales] 121 00:04:27,409 --> 00:04:31,513 Well, in 2018, I lost my dad to suicide. 122 00:04:31,513 --> 00:04:33,014 - Sorry to hear that. 123 00:04:33,014 --> 00:04:35,283 - I'm very afraid of people leaving me. 124 00:04:35,283 --> 00:04:37,219 - Okay. 125 00:04:37,219 --> 00:04:38,820 How did that affect you? 126 00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:40,355 - It broke me. 127 00:04:40,355 --> 00:04:44,025 It also made me the best person I can be. 128 00:04:44,025 --> 00:04:46,194 I feel him still with me. 129 00:04:46,194 --> 00:04:52,834 - So what that developed in you was a fear of abandonment. 130 00:04:52,834 --> 00:04:55,904 And maybe you were drawn to Evan 131 00:04:55,904 --> 00:05:00,075 as a mechanism to cope with the loss. 132 00:05:00,075 --> 00:05:01,509 - Yeah. 133 00:05:01,509 --> 00:05:05,313 While me and Evan were dating, he lost his mom. 134 00:05:05,313 --> 00:05:07,582 - Okay. Okay. Okay. 135 00:05:07,582 --> 00:05:12,053 - I ended up being the person that could help him heal. 136 00:05:12,053 --> 00:05:14,022 From that moment on, like, I've wanted to 137 00:05:14,022 --> 00:05:17,459 hold onto this so hard, but I've been scared, 138 00:05:17,459 --> 00:05:19,861 so scared of losing him. 139 00:05:19,861 --> 00:05:21,496 Just all the silly fears 140 00:05:21,496 --> 00:05:22,998 I feel like everyone goes through, 141 00:05:22,998 --> 00:05:26,735 but, like, they're heightened for some reason lately. 142 00:05:26,735 --> 00:05:29,271 There's something missing. 143 00:05:29,271 --> 00:05:31,006 Something he's not telling me. 144 00:05:31,006 --> 00:05:32,474 - Well... - I feel like there's people 145 00:05:32,474 --> 00:05:34,876 that don't know about me. 146 00:05:34,876 --> 00:05:36,611 - Is there someone that you think 147 00:05:36,611 --> 00:05:39,514 he might be cheating with? 148 00:05:39,514 --> 00:05:43,118 - He is best friends with the girl that 149 00:05:43,118 --> 00:05:46,955 he just wrote an album with. And she doesn't know who I am. 150 00:05:46,955 --> 00:05:50,926 - She should know that he has a significant other. 151 00:05:50,926 --> 00:05:52,494 - Well, I mean, like, the first time that 152 00:05:52,494 --> 00:05:53,862 I even knew who she was 153 00:05:53,862 --> 00:05:56,965 was because he came out with a song with her. 154 00:05:56,965 --> 00:05:58,466 - Mm. 155 00:05:58,466 --> 00:05:59,935 - Usually your first impression if you're meeting 156 00:05:59,935 --> 00:06:02,437 somebody's girlfriend for the first time is like, 157 00:06:02,437 --> 00:06:04,439 "Hi." Yeah. - "Hi. Oh, my God." 158 00:06:04,439 --> 00:06:06,241 And she didn't give you any of that? 159 00:06:06,241 --> 00:06:08,000 - No, it was like I was no one. 160 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,611 - No, it was like I was no one. 161 00:06:09,611 --> 00:06:12,914 When we first started dating, he was posting me. 162 00:06:12,914 --> 00:06:14,716 Like, he was excited to show me off. 163 00:06:14,716 --> 00:06:17,118 And now it's, like, where did that go? 164 00:06:17,118 --> 00:06:19,387 - Is he posting somebody else instead of you? 165 00:06:19,387 --> 00:06:20,755 - Yes. 166 00:06:20,755 --> 00:06:23,658 She's in all of his music so he has that excuse. 167 00:06:23,658 --> 00:06:26,127 - So he can definitely relate to her 168 00:06:26,127 --> 00:06:30,198 on the music side of things. - She's beautiful. 169 00:06:30,198 --> 00:06:32,033 - So are you. 170 00:06:32,033 --> 00:06:35,837 You could be talking yourself... 171 00:06:35,837 --> 00:06:38,239 to the edge of the ledge. - Right. 172 00:06:38,239 --> 00:06:39,674 - Okay? - Exactly. 173 00:06:39,674 --> 00:06:43,378 - I have been that girl afraid of them leaving me. 174 00:06:43,378 --> 00:06:45,814 I wanna take this case and show you 175 00:06:45,814 --> 00:06:48,249 that everything that you want is out there. 176 00:06:48,249 --> 00:06:51,386 You've gotta find a way to love yourself more 177 00:06:51,386 --> 00:06:52,954 than you love Evan. 178 00:06:52,954 --> 00:06:54,823 Now, in order to do this successfully, 179 00:06:54,823 --> 00:06:56,891 I need to know where Evan be at. 180 00:06:56,891 --> 00:06:58,994 - Well, there's one studio in particular. 181 00:06:58,994 --> 00:07:01,129 I can give you the address. - Perfect. 182 00:07:01,129 --> 00:07:02,397 So you send me that, 183 00:07:02,397 --> 00:07:04,232 and I'll get my investigation team on it. 184 00:07:04,232 --> 00:07:05,533 - 'Kay. - 'Kay. 185 00:07:05,533 --> 00:07:08,737 So you gonna go home, act normal. 186 00:07:08,737 --> 00:07:11,106 You're not gonna let him know that you came to see me. 187 00:07:11,106 --> 00:07:12,340 - Mm-kay. - All right. 188 00:07:12,340 --> 00:07:14,142 Thank you so much for coming in, Jessica. 189 00:07:14,142 --> 00:07:15,610 - I appreciate you. - You gonna be good. 190 00:07:15,610 --> 00:07:16,845 You're gonna be good. - [chuckles] 191 00:07:16,845 --> 00:07:18,013 - Thank you so much. - Thank you. 192 00:07:19,481 --> 00:07:25,787 ♪ ♪ 193 00:07:26,087 --> 00:07:29,491 - Tami gave us the down-low from his girlfriend Jessica 194 00:07:29,491 --> 00:07:31,726 about the music studio that he frequents. 195 00:07:31,726 --> 00:07:33,028 - Yes. - Least we have 196 00:07:33,028 --> 00:07:34,496 an approximate time to expect him, 197 00:07:34,496 --> 00:07:37,198 location, description. - Okay. 198 00:07:37,198 --> 00:07:39,634 - So what I'm thinking is, I'm gonna get in there. 199 00:07:39,634 --> 00:07:42,303 We've got two surveillance cams to hide. 200 00:07:42,303 --> 00:07:44,873 One is disguised as a clock. 201 00:07:44,873 --> 00:07:47,142 And then I got the, um-- the smoke detector cams. 202 00:07:47,142 --> 00:07:48,510 - That should cover the room, right? 203 00:07:48,510 --> 00:07:49,544 - Yes. 204 00:07:49,544 --> 00:07:50,812 Hello. 205 00:07:50,812 --> 00:07:52,847 Ah, this is it. This is studio B. 206 00:07:53,214 --> 00:07:56,985 So I'm thinking if--hold on. 207 00:07:56,985 --> 00:07:59,254 - That's where you need to put the clock camera. 208 00:07:59,254 --> 00:08:01,122 - How's it look? 209 00:08:01,122 --> 00:08:02,724 - Now you just need to see the back of the room 210 00:08:02,724 --> 00:08:05,193 where we're gonna put that other slope thing. 211 00:08:05,193 --> 00:08:06,594 - Standby a second. 212 00:08:07,362 --> 00:08:09,030 [grunts] 213 00:08:09,030 --> 00:08:10,799 All right, check that? - That's good. That's good. 214 00:08:10,799 --> 00:08:12,834 You're clear to come out. - Okay. 215 00:08:14,769 --> 00:08:16,371 All right. Now we sit and we wait. 216 00:08:16,371 --> 00:08:17,505 - Yep. - And we hope 217 00:08:17,505 --> 00:08:19,107 the tape doesn't fail. [chuckles] 218 00:08:23,144 --> 00:08:28,783 ♪ ♪ 219 00:08:28,783 --> 00:08:29,884 Well, hello. - Oh. 220 00:08:29,884 --> 00:08:31,086 - Yeah. - Get a shot of that. 221 00:08:32,821 --> 00:08:36,291 - Yep, that's him. That's our guy. 222 00:08:37,025 --> 00:08:40,962 - How you doin' fam? - All right. 223 00:08:40,962 --> 00:08:42,997 - Tami sent us a photo of the best friend 224 00:08:42,997 --> 00:08:45,867 Jessica's suspicious of, and I think that's her. 225 00:08:45,867 --> 00:08:47,202 - Let's check it out. 226 00:08:53,908 --> 00:08:55,243 - [bleep] 227 00:08:55,243 --> 00:08:56,911 [bleep], oh, my god! 228 00:08:59,647 --> 00:09:00,882 - Did you hear what he just said? 229 00:09:00,882 --> 00:09:01,816 - Yes! 230 00:09:03,384 --> 00:09:04,919 [both chuckle] 231 00:09:08,990 --> 00:09:10,992 - Even their friends think they look cute together. 232 00:09:14,262 --> 00:09:15,730 [Liza giggles] 233 00:09:15,730 --> 00:09:17,298 - Look how tender he is with her. 234 00:09:17,298 --> 00:09:18,266 - He is. 235 00:09:20,468 --> 00:09:21,970 - I think that we need to get a little bit more. 236 00:09:21,970 --> 00:09:23,671 It's good, but it's not enough. 237 00:09:23,671 --> 00:09:25,507 This--there's no crime in that. 238 00:09:25,507 --> 00:09:28,476 [tense music] 239 00:09:28,476 --> 00:09:34,816 ♪ ♪ 240 00:09:34,816 --> 00:09:37,152 We got him. Eyes on him. - Here we go. 241 00:09:40,088 --> 00:09:41,956 Let's go. - And we're movin'. 242 00:09:44,259 --> 00:09:45,493 - Seatbelt. 243 00:09:45,493 --> 00:09:46,928 Not knowing where he's going, 244 00:09:46,928 --> 00:09:48,997 we just gotta stay tight-- tight on him. 245 00:09:48,997 --> 00:09:50,398 It's a cute neighborhood. 246 00:09:50,398 --> 00:09:51,866 Guess this is where you take your honey. 247 00:09:51,866 --> 00:09:55,103 He's parking, so I'll grab up here. 248 00:09:55,103 --> 00:09:57,038 - All right. And then I'll go on foot, yeah? 249 00:09:57,038 --> 00:09:58,473 - You got audio feed? You got visual? 250 00:09:58,473 --> 00:09:59,874 - Yeah. - All right. 251 00:09:59,874 --> 00:10:01,342 What'd you bring? What do you have? 252 00:10:01,342 --> 00:10:02,911 - I got my cross camera. 253 00:10:04,412 --> 00:10:05,713 I love this thing. 254 00:10:05,713 --> 00:10:07,749 It's my favorite piece of jewelry. 255 00:10:07,749 --> 00:10:09,050 - Here we go. [car door closes] 256 00:10:10,618 --> 00:10:12,253 - He just crossed the street. 257 00:10:12,253 --> 00:10:14,722 - He's going into a boutique. Stand by. 258 00:10:15,423 --> 00:10:17,825 It's the boutique with the white painted brick. 259 00:10:19,194 --> 00:10:21,462 - 'Kay, he's in this store right here. 260 00:10:21,462 --> 00:10:22,697 I'm going in. 261 00:10:22,697 --> 00:10:25,767 - I got you. [door creaks, slams] 262 00:10:25,767 --> 00:10:28,303 - Yeah, it [indistinct] 263 00:10:28,303 --> 00:10:30,538 - You like it? 264 00:10:30,538 --> 00:10:31,940 You should keep looking, though. 265 00:11:02,203 --> 00:11:03,805 - They just left the clothing store. 266 00:11:03,805 --> 00:11:04,839 - Yeah, I see them. 267 00:11:04,839 --> 00:11:08,000 ♪ ♪ 268 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:08,076 ♪ ♪ 269 00:11:08,076 --> 00:11:10,378 Patrice, do you have 'em? 270 00:11:10,378 --> 00:11:13,748 - Stand by. I have them crossing another street. 271 00:11:13,748 --> 00:11:15,316 - Copy that. You stay with them 272 00:11:15,316 --> 00:11:18,286 and I'm gonna find a place to put the car. 273 00:11:18,286 --> 00:11:20,855 - And this is gonna be a while. 274 00:11:20,855 --> 00:11:21,956 And so we wait. 275 00:11:32,367 --> 00:11:35,103 [notifications chiming] 276 00:11:54,822 --> 00:11:57,392 ♪ ♪ 277 00:12:01,729 --> 00:12:04,499 - Dude. - Dude. It's done. 278 00:12:04,499 --> 00:12:07,969 They are in love. Period. I'm telling you right now. 279 00:12:07,969 --> 00:12:09,570 Jessica will know, the-- - What? What? 280 00:12:09,570 --> 00:12:11,906 - It's not even, like, making out or the kissing. 281 00:12:11,906 --> 00:12:14,976 It's the words. They--they're in love. 282 00:12:14,976 --> 00:12:17,412 - This one's gonna hurt. This one's gonna hurt. 283 00:12:19,347 --> 00:12:21,249 - We followed Evan to a dive bar. 284 00:12:21,249 --> 00:12:24,185 - He posted this on his IG, so we know he's here. 285 00:12:24,185 --> 00:12:27,689 - We're gonna go in and get some surveillance inside. 286 00:12:27,689 --> 00:12:29,090 So I've got the necklace cam. 287 00:12:29,090 --> 00:12:30,525 Try to get on video what I can't get 288 00:12:30,525 --> 00:12:31,893 on the necklace cam. - No. I got--I got your back. 289 00:12:31,893 --> 00:12:33,061 - All right. - I got your back. 290 00:12:33,061 --> 00:12:34,295 - Find him, sidle up next to him, 291 00:12:34,295 --> 00:12:35,663 and see what I can get out of him. 292 00:12:35,663 --> 00:12:37,665 If it doesn't look good to make contact, I won't. 293 00:12:37,665 --> 00:12:39,167 But I'm hoping that it's a situation 294 00:12:39,167 --> 00:12:40,835 where I can do that and it'll be natural. 295 00:12:40,835 --> 00:12:43,404 - We got this. Get him. 296 00:12:53,348 --> 00:12:55,116 - No, you're too clean to paint. 297 00:12:58,820 --> 00:13:01,022 [FaceTime ringing] 298 00:13:25,313 --> 00:13:26,848 - Mm. 299 00:13:52,473 --> 00:13:55,376 [hip-hop music] 300 00:13:56,978 --> 00:13:58,279 - How are you? - Good. How are you? 301 00:13:58,279 --> 00:13:59,514 - Good to see you again. - Thank you. You too. 302 00:13:59,514 --> 00:14:00,715 - Please have a seat. 303 00:14:00,715 --> 00:14:04,685 This gentleman right here is Mr. Ken. 304 00:14:04,685 --> 00:14:05,953 - Hi. - Hello. How are you? 305 00:14:05,953 --> 00:14:07,188 - Good. How are you? - Great to meet you. 306 00:14:07,188 --> 00:14:10,024 - He's here as my relationship expert. 307 00:14:10,024 --> 00:14:12,393 Now, this footage I just received this morning. 308 00:14:12,393 --> 00:14:17,064 And Coach Ken here is going to help you 309 00:14:17,064 --> 00:14:20,802 in the event you see something that you don't like. 310 00:14:20,802 --> 00:14:23,371 - Okay. - Okay? Here we go. 311 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:27,542 So you gave us the address of the studio 312 00:14:27,542 --> 00:14:29,310 where Evan usually frequents, 313 00:14:29,310 --> 00:14:32,947 and so our investigation team went there. 314 00:14:32,947 --> 00:14:34,248 That's him with the blue hair, correct? 315 00:14:34,248 --> 00:14:36,150 - Mm-hmm. - All right. 316 00:14:36,150 --> 00:14:39,020 - But that redhead. Is that Liza? 317 00:14:39,020 --> 00:14:40,588 - I think so. - Okay. 318 00:14:40,588 --> 00:14:42,824 So she arrived at the studio. 319 00:14:42,824 --> 00:14:45,560 This is the studio. 320 00:14:47,662 --> 00:14:49,163 - Yeah, dude, incredible. 321 00:14:52,033 --> 00:14:55,503 - [laughs] Oh, really? 322 00:14:55,503 --> 00:14:56,471 Wow. 323 00:15:01,275 --> 00:15:03,044 - He's so aggressive. Right? 324 00:15:03,044 --> 00:15:04,812 He's always the person who initiates contact. 325 00:15:04,812 --> 00:15:05,913 - Right. - Yes. 326 00:15:05,913 --> 00:15:08,015 - And that's how he treats me. 327 00:15:19,260 --> 00:15:22,997 - The "forever alone single life" is hard for him, 328 00:15:22,997 --> 00:15:25,066 but he's supposed to be in a relationship with you? 329 00:15:25,066 --> 00:15:28,135 - Like, she's the only one that I wasn't sure 330 00:15:28,135 --> 00:15:29,871 why she acted like I didn't exist 331 00:15:29,871 --> 00:15:31,372 when she was around. - Okay. 332 00:15:31,372 --> 00:15:34,075 - And he literally says the same things 333 00:15:34,075 --> 00:15:35,576 to both of us. 334 00:15:35,576 --> 00:15:37,545 - We kept following Evan, 335 00:15:37,545 --> 00:15:40,515 and this is who he meets up with. 336 00:15:40,515 --> 00:15:42,083 Liza. 337 00:15:42,083 --> 00:15:45,186 And they, quite honestly, spent a day of shopping 338 00:15:45,186 --> 00:15:48,856 and hanging out and spending time together. 339 00:15:52,326 --> 00:15:54,862 - We've been recently talking about getting a tattoo, too. 340 00:15:54,862 --> 00:15:55,963 [chuckles] - Really? 341 00:15:55,963 --> 00:15:57,031 - Yup. - Mm. 342 00:15:57,031 --> 00:15:58,165 - And he always makes this joke, 343 00:15:58,165 --> 00:16:00,368 "I'm gonna get your name on my knuckles." 344 00:16:00,368 --> 00:16:01,636 - Oh, wow. 345 00:16:04,105 --> 00:16:05,606 - Oh, my God. You're kidding me! 346 00:16:05,606 --> 00:16:06,874 You're [bleep] kidding. 347 00:16:06,874 --> 00:16:08,643 - [chuckles] - You're [bleep] kidding! 348 00:16:08,643 --> 00:16:11,779 Like, it's never-ending with this guy. 349 00:16:11,779 --> 00:16:14,882 My freakin' God. 350 00:16:31,566 --> 00:16:36,404 - [sniffles] "Really cute. So cute." 351 00:16:36,404 --> 00:16:38,472 - He made his way to the tattoo shop. 352 00:16:44,912 --> 00:16:46,047 - Yeah? 353 00:16:48,849 --> 00:16:50,585 - She said, "I love you." 354 00:16:50,585 --> 00:16:54,956 And then they actually get matching tattoos. 355 00:16:54,956 --> 00:16:56,424 - I wanna throw up. [chuckles] 356 00:16:57,959 --> 00:17:00,328 - We followed him... 357 00:17:00,328 --> 00:17:04,098 and he ended up at a bar. 358 00:17:04,098 --> 00:17:07,501 That woman that's sitting with him is our decoy. 359 00:17:07,501 --> 00:17:10,438 And she was able to get him talking about the two of you. 360 00:17:10,438 --> 00:17:11,839 - Is he on the phone with Liza? 361 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:14,008 - Yes. Liza FaceTimed him. 362 00:17:16,844 --> 00:17:18,279 - Mm. 363 00:17:19,013 --> 00:17:20,681 - Wow, I exist. 364 00:17:26,454 --> 00:17:27,455 - [groans] 365 00:17:33,027 --> 00:17:34,195 - Yeah. 366 00:17:41,235 --> 00:17:43,437 - Mm-mm. - Wow. 367 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,542 - So now you've seen it all, 368 00:17:48,542 --> 00:17:50,911 how does all of that make you feel? 369 00:17:50,911 --> 00:17:56,217 - I feel really stupid that I expected better. [chuckles] 370 00:17:56,217 --> 00:17:57,585 That's what I feel stupid about. 371 00:17:57,585 --> 00:18:01,656 I'm not surprised. And I just feel really dumb. 372 00:18:01,656 --> 00:18:04,792 - The truth is, I don't believe he was putting on an act 373 00:18:04,792 --> 00:18:07,795 when he was telling you he felt the way that he did. 374 00:18:07,795 --> 00:18:11,499 There is a tremendous need for connection in him. 375 00:18:11,499 --> 00:18:14,769 He lost his mother and maybe he feels like 376 00:18:14,769 --> 00:18:17,705 that I need to connect because I lost this part of me. 377 00:18:17,705 --> 00:18:20,141 He did it with you. He's like, "I'm gonna go overboard 378 00:18:20,141 --> 00:18:22,309 to connect, to connect, to connect," 379 00:18:22,309 --> 00:18:25,246 because he felt like that you could help him through 380 00:18:25,246 --> 00:18:26,681 these stages of grief. 381 00:18:26,681 --> 00:18:30,985 Now, he might not have been as emotionally connected 382 00:18:30,985 --> 00:18:34,121 as you thought he was because of the shared trauma. 383 00:18:34,121 --> 00:18:36,057 But he still needs that connection. 384 00:18:36,057 --> 00:18:38,526 You--you cannot beat yourself up. 385 00:18:38,526 --> 00:18:41,696 You gotta be kind to yourself because the truth is, 386 00:18:41,696 --> 00:18:46,300 all of us, in our life at some point, have felt betrayed. 387 00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:48,469 - So this is how it goes. 388 00:18:48,469 --> 00:18:51,000 You can sit down with Liza 389 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:51,205 You can sit down with Liza 390 00:18:51,205 --> 00:18:53,340 and you guys have a conversation. 391 00:18:53,340 --> 00:18:55,209 Then you guys team up 392 00:18:55,209 --> 00:18:57,611 and go speak with Evan together. 393 00:18:57,611 --> 00:19:03,250 Or do you want to catch both of them in the act 394 00:19:03,250 --> 00:19:07,688 and do what we call around here a takedown? 395 00:19:07,688 --> 00:19:10,858 - I wanna meet with her, just the two of us. 396 00:19:10,858 --> 00:19:13,327 I think I've seen enough of them together. 397 00:19:13,327 --> 00:19:15,863 I don't--if she doesn't know, then she doesn't know. 398 00:19:15,863 --> 00:19:17,431 Like, why should I... 399 00:19:17,431 --> 00:19:18,666 make her a part of that? - Right. 400 00:19:18,666 --> 00:19:20,334 - The roles could have been reversed. 401 00:19:20,334 --> 00:19:21,335 She could have been the one that came to you 402 00:19:21,335 --> 00:19:22,336 that knew about me first. 403 00:19:22,336 --> 00:19:23,504 You know? - Right. 404 00:19:23,504 --> 00:19:24,939 And I'm happy to hear you say that 405 00:19:24,939 --> 00:19:27,608 because sometimes the other woman doesn't know. 406 00:19:27,608 --> 00:19:30,778 I will get my investigation team 407 00:19:30,778 --> 00:19:32,847 back on the case. 408 00:19:32,847 --> 00:19:35,015 From this footage, we kind of feel like 409 00:19:35,015 --> 00:19:38,018 there's some, you know, mo-- 410 00:19:38,018 --> 00:19:39,153 something inside of him... - Right. 411 00:19:39,153 --> 00:19:41,489 - Where he wants to be with Liza. 412 00:19:41,489 --> 00:19:43,190 But we still don't know 413 00:19:43,190 --> 00:19:45,392 if there's anything physical going on. 414 00:19:45,392 --> 00:19:48,095 So once we find her location, 415 00:19:48,095 --> 00:19:50,197 Ken and I will come and scoop you up 416 00:19:50,197 --> 00:19:52,767 and take you so that you can have a conversation with her. 417 00:19:52,767 --> 00:19:55,469 And then you ladies need to go talk to him. 418 00:19:55,469 --> 00:19:57,638 'Cause I'm gonna get the truth for you. 419 00:20:01,992 --> 00:20:03,427 - ♪ Don't call me up ♪ 420 00:20:03,427 --> 00:20:05,329 ♪ When you're looking at my photos ♪ 421 00:20:05,329 --> 00:20:07,598 ♪ You're getting hot, losing control ♪ 422 00:20:07,598 --> 00:20:09,500 ♪ And I know you said ♪ 423 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:11,635 ♪ That I'd changed with my cold heart ♪ 424 00:20:11,635 --> 00:20:13,204 - Thank you, Ken. 425 00:20:13,204 --> 00:20:15,072 - My pleasure. We got work to do. 426 00:20:15,072 --> 00:20:16,440 - Yes, we do. 427 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,243 So my investigation team let me know that 428 00:20:19,243 --> 00:20:21,078 Liza was getting off work. 429 00:20:21,078 --> 00:20:23,381 I hit Jessica up, so she knows we're on the way. 430 00:20:23,381 --> 00:20:24,715 - I just--you know, 431 00:20:24,715 --> 00:20:27,718 she's such a-- just a sweet spirit, though. 432 00:20:27,718 --> 00:20:31,589 And sometimes the sweetest spirits 433 00:20:31,589 --> 00:20:33,724 are the ones that get hurt the most. 434 00:20:33,724 --> 00:20:35,626 - The most, yes. 435 00:20:35,626 --> 00:20:37,728 - Yeah, that's her. There she is. 436 00:20:37,728 --> 00:20:40,264 - Oh, damn. Jessica wearing 437 00:20:40,264 --> 00:20:41,832 her takedown outfit. 438 00:20:41,832 --> 00:20:44,101 Oh, well, wh-- what's happened here? 439 00:20:44,101 --> 00:20:45,569 You switched it up. 440 00:20:45,569 --> 00:20:47,738 Now you giving me bad bitch vibes. 441 00:20:48,873 --> 00:20:51,208 Okay. We got the call, Ken and I, 442 00:20:51,208 --> 00:20:53,744 from our private investigators. 443 00:20:53,744 --> 00:20:55,146 Liza's at work 444 00:20:55,146 --> 00:20:57,047 and she's supposed to be getting off shortly, 445 00:20:57,047 --> 00:20:59,483 so we're gonna go meet her 446 00:20:59,483 --> 00:21:02,319 as soon as she exits the building. 447 00:21:02,319 --> 00:21:05,990 You are going to ask this woman, 448 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:08,492 in a noncombative way, 449 00:21:08,492 --> 00:21:11,362 all of the questions you need answers to. 450 00:21:11,362 --> 00:21:14,498 - You wanna tell her first the emotional connection 451 00:21:14,498 --> 00:21:17,101 and the type of relationship that you have with Evan. 452 00:21:17,101 --> 00:21:19,303 And the first question needs to be, 453 00:21:19,303 --> 00:21:22,106 "Did you know that Evan and I 454 00:21:22,106 --> 00:21:24,842 are in a committed relationship?" 455 00:21:24,842 --> 00:21:31,182 ♪ ♪ 456 00:21:31,182 --> 00:21:33,417 Okay. Here she comes. 457 00:21:33,417 --> 00:21:34,585 - You ready? - All right. 458 00:21:34,585 --> 00:21:37,288 - Here we go. - We got you, all right? 459 00:21:47,465 --> 00:21:49,300 - What are these cameras for? 460 00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:51,168 - Hey, can I talk to you real quick? 461 00:21:51,168 --> 00:21:52,303 - Do I know you? 462 00:21:52,303 --> 00:21:53,804 - Yeah, we've met before. 463 00:21:53,804 --> 00:21:55,840 I'm guessing you don't recognize me. 464 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,876 But I wanted to talk to you because I'm starting to feel 465 00:21:58,876 --> 00:22:02,379 really concerned about my relationship with Evan. 466 00:22:02,379 --> 00:22:03,781 And I know that you two are close... 467 00:22:03,781 --> 00:22:06,784 - Wait, I'm so sorry. Evan, like, E-Stro? 468 00:22:06,784 --> 00:22:09,687 - Yes. - Like, forever alone E-Stro? 469 00:22:09,687 --> 00:22:11,922 - Yes. So he and I have been in a relationship 470 00:22:11,922 --> 00:22:14,258 for about a year. 471 00:22:14,258 --> 00:22:16,293 I've met you before at a couple parties. 472 00:22:16,293 --> 00:22:17,428 - I'm so sorry, I don't recognize you. 473 00:22:17,428 --> 00:22:19,430 - But with--it's okay. - [scoffs] 474 00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:20,798 Not "I don't recognize her." - "I recognize you." 475 00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:22,299 - How come you don't know about me? 476 00:22:22,299 --> 00:22:23,701 That's--wouldn't that... - That--that-- 477 00:22:23,701 --> 00:22:25,269 - Make you feel weird? - That's a great question. 478 00:22:25,269 --> 00:22:27,071 I would love to know the same thing. 479 00:22:27,071 --> 00:22:28,672 I am actually pretty upset 480 00:22:28,672 --> 00:22:31,041 at the fact that I don't know about you. 481 00:22:31,041 --> 00:22:32,443 We kind of talk about everything, I feel like, 482 00:22:32,443 --> 00:22:34,712 so this is, like... 483 00:22:34,712 --> 00:22:36,747 [chuckles] This is, like, crazy to me. 484 00:22:36,747 --> 00:22:38,816 - Well, I do have people to help me. 485 00:22:38,816 --> 00:22:40,985 - I think--I think she-- I think she wants-- 486 00:22:40,985 --> 00:22:43,487 - All right. - I thought he would never want 487 00:22:43,487 --> 00:22:45,222 to be in a relationship, so this is... 488 00:22:45,222 --> 00:22:46,824 - Hello. - Hello. 489 00:22:46,824 --> 00:22:49,026 - My name is Tami Roman. - Okay. 490 00:22:49,026 --> 00:22:51,262 And you are on a show called 491 00:22:51,262 --> 00:22:52,830 "Caught in the Act: Unfaithful." 492 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:55,733 - Okay. - Because Jessica came to us 493 00:22:55,733 --> 00:22:57,968 with concerns about her relationship with Evan. 494 00:22:57,968 --> 00:23:01,605 We have had him under surveillance 495 00:23:01,605 --> 00:23:04,675 and we found out that he's been involved with you. 496 00:23:04,675 --> 00:23:08,512 - Yes. - So that is why she's here. 497 00:23:08,512 --> 00:23:10,714 - Are you in love with him? 498 00:23:10,714 --> 00:23:12,816 - Um, I did not know he has a girlfriend. 499 00:23:12,816 --> 00:23:14,285 I do love him. 500 00:23:14,285 --> 00:23:16,787 But I hope you know, I've never done anything with Evan. 501 00:23:16,787 --> 00:23:18,622 When we started making music together, 502 00:23:18,622 --> 00:23:20,991 we made a vow to each other that we would never date 503 00:23:20,991 --> 00:23:25,296 'cause we didn't want that to get in the way of our music. 504 00:23:25,296 --> 00:23:27,731 - Has Evan ever talked about 505 00:23:27,731 --> 00:23:30,634 wanting to be in a relationship with you? 506 00:23:30,634 --> 00:23:32,603 - He is a little bit flirty with me. 507 00:23:32,603 --> 00:23:34,905 And he does say, you know, uh, 508 00:23:34,905 --> 00:23:37,608 if he's gonna be with anyone then it's gonna be me. 509 00:23:37,608 --> 00:23:40,411 But he's forever alone. So that's why I'm so confused 510 00:23:40,411 --> 00:23:42,680 at the fact that he does have a girlfriend. 511 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,582 But I... 512 00:23:44,582 --> 00:23:47,051 I--I thought he was single. Like, he acts single. 513 00:23:47,051 --> 00:23:50,621 He's very, you know, flirty and very outgoing. 514 00:23:50,621 --> 00:23:52,056 And he is-- - From woman to woman, 515 00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:54,091 if you were me... - Uh-huh. 516 00:23:54,091 --> 00:23:56,293 - Do you feel like what he's doing with you 517 00:23:56,293 --> 00:23:57,895 is cheating on me? 518 00:24:02,892 --> 00:24:06,029 [tense music] 519 00:24:06,729 --> 00:24:08,865 - From woman to woman, if you were me... 520 00:24:08,865 --> 00:24:10,099 - Uh-huh. 521 00:24:10,099 --> 00:24:12,235 - Do you feel like what he's doing with you 522 00:24:12,235 --> 00:24:14,103 is cheating on me? 523 00:24:14,103 --> 00:24:19,108 ♪ ♪ 524 00:24:19,108 --> 00:24:20,543 - Yeah. 525 00:24:20,543 --> 00:24:22,612 - I'm at the point where I can't take it anymore. 526 00:24:22,612 --> 00:24:24,147 - I would be just as upset as you are. 527 00:24:24,147 --> 00:24:27,617 I've been cheated on. I've been the side chick. 528 00:24:27,617 --> 00:24:28,751 Didn't know that I was, 529 00:24:28,751 --> 00:24:30,019 and I got my heart broken from that. 530 00:24:30,019 --> 00:24:31,554 So I couldn't imagine 531 00:24:31,554 --> 00:24:32,789 what you were going through, seeing this. 532 00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:35,758 - But I think guys need to go speak 533 00:24:35,758 --> 00:24:38,294 to Evan together. - Yeah, we do. 534 00:24:38,294 --> 00:24:41,831 - He hasn't really operated as a best friend to you. 535 00:24:41,831 --> 00:24:43,299 - You're right. - There's been secrecy. 536 00:24:43,299 --> 00:24:45,602 - That's what I'm upset about. - There's been lying. 537 00:24:45,602 --> 00:24:48,738 - Yeah. He needs to be confronted from you about that. 538 00:24:48,738 --> 00:24:50,773 - Are you willing to, like, team up with me, though, 539 00:24:50,773 --> 00:24:52,942 and not just, like, go tell him everything I'm doing? 540 00:24:52,942 --> 00:24:56,713 'Cause I would like you to do this with me. 541 00:24:56,713 --> 00:24:58,014 - You know what? There's a secret part of me 542 00:24:58,014 --> 00:24:59,515 that's always wanted to team up with a girl 543 00:24:59,515 --> 00:25:00,917 and do this... - [chuckles] 544 00:25:00,917 --> 00:25:02,652 - So I am very down. 545 00:25:02,652 --> 00:25:07,924 - So is there a way that we can link up with Evan? 546 00:25:07,924 --> 00:25:10,727 - I have a studio session with Evan tonight. 547 00:25:10,727 --> 00:25:12,195 - Now, is this the studio 548 00:25:12,195 --> 00:25:14,464 where you guys normally go have sessions at? 549 00:25:14,464 --> 00:25:15,898 - Yeah. - Perfect. 550 00:25:15,898 --> 00:25:17,033 - Well, let's go. 551 00:25:17,033 --> 00:25:21,371 ♪ ♪ 552 00:25:21,371 --> 00:25:24,374 [sly music] 553 00:25:24,374 --> 00:25:30,913 ♪ ♪ 554 00:25:30,913 --> 00:25:33,282 - We had our investigation team 555 00:25:33,282 --> 00:25:35,752 come over and rewire the space 556 00:25:35,752 --> 00:25:36,819 so that we would be able to see 557 00:25:36,819 --> 00:25:38,254 everything that was going on. 558 00:25:38,254 --> 00:25:41,858 Do you have how you want to approach this situation 559 00:25:41,858 --> 00:25:44,661 worked out in your mind when you see Evan? 560 00:25:44,661 --> 00:25:46,129 - I have this, like, huge fear that 561 00:25:46,129 --> 00:25:48,898 he's just gonna straight up be, like, acting like 562 00:25:48,898 --> 00:25:51,234 I don't exist or something. - Mm-hmm. 563 00:25:51,234 --> 00:25:52,468 - I want her to see that 564 00:25:52,468 --> 00:25:54,003 I'm not, like, making this [bleep] up. 565 00:25:54,003 --> 00:25:56,506 - We want to make sure that when you walk away from 566 00:25:56,506 --> 00:25:59,909 this interaction, that you are confident about 567 00:25:59,909 --> 00:26:03,780 who you are, who they are, and where you wanna go with it. 568 00:26:03,780 --> 00:26:05,882 - We can actually peek in 569 00:26:05,882 --> 00:26:08,618 to what's happening in the studio now. 570 00:26:08,618 --> 00:26:10,253 - I wanna see. 571 00:26:10,253 --> 00:26:11,788 - Okay. 572 00:26:11,788 --> 00:26:14,490 - ♪ When I say that I love you ♪ 573 00:26:14,490 --> 00:26:16,859 ♪ I know that I do ♪ 574 00:26:16,859 --> 00:26:18,895 ♪ But I just do not see ♪ 575 00:26:18,895 --> 00:26:21,664 - This is the song he wrote for me. 576 00:26:21,664 --> 00:26:23,800 Is he telling her it's about her now? 577 00:26:50,059 --> 00:26:52,161 - I feel like you-- it's time for you to go in 578 00:26:52,161 --> 00:26:53,529 and address both of them. 579 00:26:53,529 --> 00:26:54,731 Are you ready? 580 00:26:54,731 --> 00:26:56,332 - Let's go to work. 581 00:26:56,332 --> 00:26:57,734 - Just know that we'll be here. 582 00:26:57,734 --> 00:26:59,502 And if you need me, I'll be right in. 583 00:27:08,578 --> 00:27:11,681 ♪ ♪ 584 00:27:11,681 --> 00:27:12,949 Oh, [bleep]. 585 00:27:22,024 --> 00:27:23,259 - [sighs] 586 00:27:23,259 --> 00:27:24,627 - What are you doing here? 587 00:27:24,627 --> 00:27:26,162 - Why don't you let Liza know who I am first? 588 00:27:26,162 --> 00:27:28,631 - [sighs] Y'all really be, uh, doing this? 589 00:27:28,631 --> 00:27:30,199 - You're gonna treat me like I don't exist 590 00:27:30,199 --> 00:27:33,002 after I watched footage of you disrespecting what we have. 591 00:27:33,002 --> 00:27:34,937 You're not even gonna look at me? 592 00:27:34,937 --> 00:27:36,973 - Look, my head is [bleep]. 593 00:27:36,973 --> 00:27:38,841 - Did you think I would feel this way? 594 00:27:41,410 --> 00:27:43,112 - Look, I'm sorry to both of you at this point. 595 00:27:43,112 --> 00:27:44,514 I didn't know that I was gonna be walking into 596 00:27:44,514 --> 00:27:45,815 the [bleep] atom bomb right here. 597 00:27:45,815 --> 00:27:47,450 - You did this to yourself! 598 00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:49,452 - Yeah, I guess I did. - You literally made your bed. 599 00:27:49,452 --> 00:27:50,920 - Child, let's get all up in here. 600 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,922 - All right. Let's go to work. 601 00:27:52,922 --> 00:27:56,058 - You're in love with her. Why don't you just say it? 602 00:27:56,058 --> 00:27:57,827 [dramatic music] 603 00:28:02,341 --> 00:28:03,942 - ♪ One, two, three, wop ♪ 604 00:28:03,942 --> 00:28:06,211 ♪ Everything I said went right over your head ♪ 605 00:28:06,645 --> 00:28:08,514 - You did this to yourself. 606 00:28:08,514 --> 00:28:10,315 - Yeah, I guess I did. - You literally made your bed. 607 00:28:10,315 --> 00:28:11,950 - My head is [bleep] up. - You're in love with her. 608 00:28:11,950 --> 00:28:13,719 Why don't you just say it? - What are you talking about? 609 00:28:13,719 --> 00:28:15,020 - I saw on camera. 610 00:28:16,488 --> 00:28:17,956 - Hello, hello, hello. 611 00:28:17,956 --> 00:28:19,691 - Hi. - How are you? 612 00:28:19,691 --> 00:28:20,959 - Not the greatest at this very second. 613 00:28:20,959 --> 00:28:22,594 - I can imagine. - Yeah. 614 00:28:22,594 --> 00:28:24,596 - Uh, Evan, I know who you are. 615 00:28:24,596 --> 00:28:26,565 My name is Tami Roman. 616 00:28:26,565 --> 00:28:29,434 This is my dear friend Coach Ken. 617 00:28:29,434 --> 00:28:31,436 And you are on a show called 618 00:28:31,436 --> 00:28:32,938 "Caught in the Act: Unfaithful." 619 00:28:32,938 --> 00:28:35,173 - [bleep]. - Jessica came to us 620 00:28:35,173 --> 00:28:37,142 because she thought there was some infidelity. 621 00:28:37,142 --> 00:28:39,444 The intimacy wasn't there like it had been. 622 00:28:39,444 --> 00:28:41,747 And she wanted to check and find out the truth. 623 00:28:41,747 --> 00:28:43,949 We did surveillance, okay? - I understand. 624 00:28:43,949 --> 00:28:47,953 - And we found that you were frolicking around town 625 00:28:47,953 --> 00:28:50,022 with this young lady, Liza. - Yes. 626 00:28:50,022 --> 00:28:52,724 - We actually sent a decoy into the bar 627 00:28:52,724 --> 00:28:54,293 to have a conversation with you. 628 00:28:54,293 --> 00:28:55,694 - [sighs] Oh, man. 629 00:28:55,694 --> 00:28:58,730 - And that person asked you several questions... 630 00:28:58,730 --> 00:28:59,765 - Mm-hmm. - To which-- 631 00:28:59,765 --> 00:29:02,067 one of them specifically being, 632 00:29:02,067 --> 00:29:06,004 "if there was one person who had my back, who I love, 633 00:29:06,004 --> 00:29:08,173 "who I'd want to spend the rest of my life with, 634 00:29:08,173 --> 00:29:09,575 who would that be?" 635 00:29:09,575 --> 00:29:11,877 You said it's Liza. 636 00:29:12,477 --> 00:29:14,212 - I said that? - You did. 637 00:29:14,212 --> 00:29:16,949 - I was very drunk. I know that much. 638 00:29:16,949 --> 00:29:19,151 - Now, what we not gonna do is blame it on the alcohol. 639 00:29:19,151 --> 00:29:21,019 - I'm not blaming it on the alcohol. 640 00:29:21,019 --> 00:29:23,889 My life is crazy. I'm torn. I love 'em both. 641 00:29:23,889 --> 00:29:25,457 I'm so focused on this music, 642 00:29:25,457 --> 00:29:27,225 and maybe I'm losing myself. - What about my feelings? 643 00:29:27,225 --> 00:29:28,827 - Your feelings mean everything to me. 644 00:29:28,827 --> 00:29:30,796 But we--like, Jess, we barely hang out. 645 00:29:30,796 --> 00:29:32,030 Like, what do you want from me? Like-- 646 00:29:32,030 --> 00:29:34,800 - Stop acting like I don't exist! 647 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,035 Like it's not a thing. - [sighs] 648 00:29:37,035 --> 00:29:39,171 - This is, like, super awkward for me. 649 00:29:39,171 --> 00:29:41,306 I feel like a side chick almost. 650 00:29:41,306 --> 00:29:42,641 - [bleep]. 651 00:29:42,641 --> 00:29:43,775 That's the last thing I ever wanted 652 00:29:43,775 --> 00:29:45,677 to make you feel like. - Mm-hmm. 653 00:29:45,677 --> 00:29:47,212 - Because-- - 'Cause now that 654 00:29:47,212 --> 00:29:49,848 her feelings are hurt, but my feelings... [chuckles] 655 00:29:49,848 --> 00:29:52,384 - So what we're here to do in this moment 656 00:29:52,384 --> 00:29:53,785 is be able to provide 657 00:29:53,785 --> 00:29:56,054 both of these ladies with some truth. 658 00:29:56,054 --> 00:29:57,389 - Yeah. 659 00:29:57,389 --> 00:30:00,058 I think I'm meant to be alone at this point. 660 00:30:00,058 --> 00:30:01,927 This whole situation makes me realize that. 661 00:30:01,927 --> 00:30:03,762 I have this tattooed on my wedding finger. 662 00:30:03,762 --> 00:30:05,697 I'm forever alone. - I have a problem, though. 663 00:30:05,697 --> 00:30:08,834 You use the "forever alone" as a tool. 664 00:30:08,834 --> 00:30:12,104 You use it as a tool to get women engaged in you. 665 00:30:12,104 --> 00:30:14,039 - That is not true at all. - No, I'm not saying 666 00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:15,307 that you're doing it consciously. 667 00:30:15,307 --> 00:30:17,009 But what you are doing consciously, 668 00:30:17,009 --> 00:30:19,378 you are hurting people in the process. 669 00:30:19,378 --> 00:30:23,515 Now, it may come from a place of need. I get that. 670 00:30:23,515 --> 00:30:24,716 But we've got to acknowledge that. 671 00:30:24,716 --> 00:30:26,051 - Yeah. - Let met talk to you. 672 00:30:26,051 --> 00:30:27,519 I wanna talk to you one-on-one. 673 00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:28,820 - And I'd like to talk to you. 674 00:30:30,055 --> 00:30:31,890 - I do think I'm meant to be alone. 675 00:30:31,890 --> 00:30:33,925 I--I hurt people when I get in relationships. 676 00:30:33,925 --> 00:30:36,061 And I never meant to do that to Jess, you know? 677 00:30:36,061 --> 00:30:37,996 I didn't physically cheat on her. 678 00:30:37,996 --> 00:30:39,765 Maybe I did emotionally. 679 00:30:39,765 --> 00:30:40,932 Like, that's... - And that's--that's-- 680 00:30:40,932 --> 00:30:42,367 - Maybe is worse. - That's the point. 681 00:30:42,367 --> 00:30:44,703 Emotional cheating is far greater than 682 00:30:44,703 --> 00:30:45,871 you just sticking it somewhere 683 00:30:45,871 --> 00:30:47,539 and going on about your business. 684 00:30:47,539 --> 00:30:49,841 You connected with Liza. - Yeah. 685 00:30:49,841 --> 00:30:52,244 - And that ultimately ended up hurting Jess. 686 00:30:52,244 --> 00:30:56,214 Where you could have sat her down 687 00:30:56,214 --> 00:30:58,617 and said--had this conversation that we're having. 688 00:30:58,617 --> 00:31:01,787 'Cause it seems, like, really, your head is somewhere else. 689 00:31:01,787 --> 00:31:03,088 - You know, ever since I lost my mom, 690 00:31:03,088 --> 00:31:04,956 I live this reckless life. 691 00:31:04,956 --> 00:31:07,059 - And was your mom, like, 692 00:31:07,059 --> 00:31:09,995 a very poignant figure in your life? 693 00:31:09,995 --> 00:31:11,196 - My mom was my biggest fan. 694 00:31:11,196 --> 00:31:12,798 We had the greatest connection ever. 695 00:31:12,798 --> 00:31:15,400 She picked apart every lyric of every song I ever made ever. 696 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,202 - Mm-hmm. - That [bleep] me up, you know? 697 00:31:17,202 --> 00:31:19,404 Like, my mom, you know, she was a heroin addict 698 00:31:19,404 --> 00:31:21,306 my whole life and she finally got sober. 699 00:31:21,306 --> 00:31:22,941 And she relapsed and asked me to come see her. 700 00:31:22,941 --> 00:31:24,910 And I was so mad at her, I told her no. 701 00:31:24,910 --> 00:31:27,679 So she went home and took her life. 702 00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:31,183 - I want you to understand that you can't feel guilty 703 00:31:31,183 --> 00:31:34,786 about how things transpired with your mom. 704 00:31:34,786 --> 00:31:37,089 - Yeah, I mean, can you blame me, though? 705 00:31:37,089 --> 00:31:39,458 - But you can't continue to feel guilty 706 00:31:39,458 --> 00:31:40,992 because of it. - I know. 707 00:31:40,992 --> 00:31:42,694 And I can't be hurting other people because of it. 708 00:31:42,694 --> 00:31:44,029 That's what I can't be doing, like-- 709 00:31:44,029 --> 00:31:45,464 or what I shouldn't be doing. 710 00:31:45,464 --> 00:31:48,033 - You guys have formed a codependency relationship 711 00:31:48,033 --> 00:31:51,103 where his victim mentality, 712 00:31:51,103 --> 00:31:52,604 "what I have gone through"-- 713 00:31:52,604 --> 00:31:55,173 and you have to be there-- both of you have to be there 714 00:31:55,173 --> 00:31:57,909 to reach over and help him. 715 00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:59,878 He sat here and said, "I'm [bleep] up." 716 00:31:59,878 --> 00:32:01,446 You know, he told you, "I love you. 717 00:32:01,446 --> 00:32:02,714 I've gotten close to you," 718 00:32:02,714 --> 00:32:04,716 and neither one of you reacted. 719 00:32:04,716 --> 00:32:06,218 Neither one of you. 720 00:32:06,218 --> 00:32:08,620 But the question is, where does that come from in you? 721 00:32:08,620 --> 00:32:10,455 - I've really known him for so frickin' long. 722 00:32:10,455 --> 00:32:12,124 Like, I don't want to lose that friendship. 723 00:32:12,124 --> 00:32:15,093 - Yeah. - And I let him talk me into 724 00:32:15,093 --> 00:32:18,697 crossing that boundary, with fear from the beginning 725 00:32:18,697 --> 00:32:20,031 that this was gonna be what happened. 726 00:32:20,031 --> 00:32:21,600 - You want to avoid conflict. 727 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,769 "I know you just came through some grief. 728 00:32:23,769 --> 00:32:25,470 "So let's keep this above board. 729 00:32:25,470 --> 00:32:26,671 "Let's keep this high level. 730 00:32:26,671 --> 00:32:28,106 And we're gonna keep kickin' it." 731 00:32:28,106 --> 00:32:30,375 You know--you know what that gets you? 732 00:32:30,375 --> 00:32:32,277 - Nowhere? - That gets you pain. 733 00:32:32,277 --> 00:32:34,579 - I've dealt with a lot of stuff, too, 734 00:32:34,579 --> 00:32:36,782 where I feel like... 735 00:32:36,782 --> 00:32:39,117 [voice breaking] I need to be there for other people. 736 00:32:39,117 --> 00:32:41,486 And I know he has gone through a lot, 737 00:32:41,486 --> 00:32:43,421 I know it's not fake but 738 00:32:43,421 --> 00:32:46,158 I think I just care very deeply about people. 739 00:32:46,158 --> 00:32:47,459 - But, you know, that keeps you broken too. 740 00:32:47,459 --> 00:32:48,994 - Yeah. 741 00:32:48,994 --> 00:32:50,428 - You know that, right? - Mm-hmm. 742 00:32:50,428 --> 00:32:53,965 - And that part of you needs to be helped 743 00:32:53,965 --> 00:32:55,534 so that you can be whole. 744 00:32:55,534 --> 00:32:58,203 Because this cycle is going to continue 745 00:32:58,203 --> 00:33:00,772 whether it's Evan or someone else. 746 00:33:00,772 --> 00:33:01,000 - Everything that I saw from all the footage that I watched, 747 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,142 - Everything that I saw from all the footage that I watched, 748 00:33:04,142 --> 00:33:05,977 the implication was 749 00:33:05,977 --> 00:33:08,847 that you wanted to be with Liza. 750 00:33:08,847 --> 00:33:10,415 - And I'll be honest, the last thing 751 00:33:10,415 --> 00:33:15,053 my mom told my family before she took her life was, um, 752 00:33:15,053 --> 00:33:17,222 that I was gonna marry Liza. 753 00:33:17,222 --> 00:33:18,557 - Wow. 754 00:33:18,557 --> 00:33:20,992 That's deep. - Yeah. 755 00:33:20,992 --> 00:33:22,861 Yeah. My heart's torn. 756 00:33:22,861 --> 00:33:25,030 I think you know what you feel 757 00:33:25,030 --> 00:33:26,798 and you know what's real to you. 758 00:33:26,798 --> 00:33:29,000 You're just scared to say it 759 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,204 because of the fact that you just lost your mom 760 00:33:32,204 --> 00:33:34,372 in a way that was very traumatic to you. 761 00:33:34,372 --> 00:33:36,441 And in the event you walk in there, 762 00:33:36,441 --> 00:33:38,310 and you say to Liza, 763 00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:40,312 "I wanna be with you," and she turns you down, 764 00:33:40,312 --> 00:33:41,913 that's gonna trigger you and send you right back 765 00:33:41,913 --> 00:33:43,582 to that element of loss. 766 00:33:43,582 --> 00:33:46,384 - Maybe I refuse to believe it or admit it, 767 00:33:46,384 --> 00:33:48,720 but you're not gonna get me to have to choose one. 768 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,422 [dramatic music] 769 00:33:50,422 --> 00:33:52,524 - All right. Let's go back in. 770 00:33:52,524 --> 00:33:57,462 ♪ ♪ 771 00:34:00,398 --> 00:34:03,068 Evan, I want you to have a seat too. 772 00:34:03,068 --> 00:34:05,871 I was outside having a conversation with Evan 773 00:34:05,871 --> 00:34:07,339 and I wanted to have a dialogue. 774 00:34:07,339 --> 00:34:10,141 We're just gonna go down the line 775 00:34:10,141 --> 00:34:12,611 until we get to Evan. 776 00:34:12,611 --> 00:34:13,778 - [scoffs] 777 00:34:13,778 --> 00:34:16,248 I understand, in your eyes, 778 00:34:16,248 --> 00:34:18,583 you don't feel you cheated. 779 00:34:18,583 --> 00:34:20,252 But... 780 00:34:20,252 --> 00:34:25,023 how could you expect me to feel loved by you right now? 781 00:34:25,023 --> 00:34:26,625 - You're right. 782 00:34:26,625 --> 00:34:28,360 - You're not looking at me in my eyes. 783 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,295 - When I look in your eyes, I think of all of our experiences 784 00:34:30,295 --> 00:34:32,264 and all of our past [bleep] and it's tough for me. 785 00:34:32,264 --> 00:34:33,798 That's the honest truth, so... 786 00:34:33,798 --> 00:34:35,267 - So I guess it's just hard that 787 00:34:35,267 --> 00:34:39,104 he doesn't feel horrible that he's pushing me away. 788 00:34:39,104 --> 00:34:41,406 - I do. Maybe it wasn't, cheating, like, physically, 789 00:34:41,406 --> 00:34:43,842 but clearly, I emotionally cheated. 790 00:34:43,842 --> 00:34:45,210 And in this situation, 791 00:34:45,210 --> 00:34:47,445 it's probably worse than physically cheating. 792 00:34:47,445 --> 00:34:51,549 - The biggest thing with me is I just felt blindsided. 793 00:34:51,549 --> 00:34:53,685 We said, "We can never have feelings for each other. 794 00:34:53,685 --> 00:34:56,087 We can never date," and I stuck to that promise. 795 00:34:56,087 --> 00:35:00,625 But you just being so flirty, I guess, with me, 796 00:35:00,625 --> 00:35:02,260 and me looking back at that, 797 00:35:02,260 --> 00:35:05,764 knowing you had a girlfriend hurts. 798 00:35:05,764 --> 00:35:10,035 - In a perfect world, if you hadn't made that pact, 799 00:35:10,035 --> 00:35:12,037 would you be interested in dating Evan 800 00:35:12,037 --> 00:35:14,506 if it wouldn't mess up the music? 801 00:35:14,506 --> 00:35:15,907 - No. 802 00:35:15,907 --> 00:35:17,175 It's just hard-- it's hard for me 803 00:35:17,175 --> 00:35:20,111 to picture music without him, and--but-- 804 00:35:20,111 --> 00:35:24,049 this is all so crazy to me, I don't... 805 00:35:24,049 --> 00:35:25,817 I don't know. - I don't blame you for that. 806 00:35:25,817 --> 00:35:29,387 - And I think it needs time. 807 00:35:29,387 --> 00:35:34,492 - His mother, before she passed... 808 00:35:34,492 --> 00:35:39,197 Said that he should marry Liza. 809 00:35:39,197 --> 00:35:41,866 I don't know if you knew that. 810 00:35:41,866 --> 00:35:43,535 - [sobs] 811 00:35:46,513 --> 00:35:49,616 [dramatic music] 812 00:35:50,050 --> 00:35:53,787 - His mother, before she passed, 813 00:35:53,787 --> 00:35:57,024 said that he should marry Liza. 814 00:35:57,024 --> 00:35:58,659 I don't know if you knew that. 815 00:36:02,629 --> 00:36:04,665 - [sobs] 816 00:36:04,665 --> 00:36:08,635 Like, I was just talking to him about his mom recently 817 00:36:08,635 --> 00:36:11,939 and, like, telling him how much she meant to me 818 00:36:11,939 --> 00:36:15,175 and wanting to, like, 819 00:36:15,175 --> 00:36:17,511 have him, like, talk about how he feels about it, 820 00:36:17,511 --> 00:36:20,347 so that just hurts. 821 00:36:20,347 --> 00:36:22,182 - Because of your mom passing, 822 00:36:22,182 --> 00:36:25,018 is that the reason you tried to connect with Liza? 823 00:36:25,018 --> 00:36:26,587 Was that the reason? - No. 824 00:36:26,587 --> 00:36:28,322 They were both there for me during the passing of my mom. 825 00:36:28,322 --> 00:36:30,224 Jessica was out of town, so she helped me 826 00:36:30,224 --> 00:36:31,525 through texts and through calls and [bleep]. 827 00:36:31,525 --> 00:36:33,493 But the day that my mom took her life, 828 00:36:33,493 --> 00:36:35,028 Liza showed up at my house that day 829 00:36:35,028 --> 00:36:36,196 and was there for me. 830 00:36:36,196 --> 00:36:40,434 - You and Jess have shared trauma. 831 00:36:40,434 --> 00:36:43,503 And a lot of times when people have shared trauma, 832 00:36:43,503 --> 00:36:46,073 what it does, it mistakes itself 833 00:36:46,073 --> 00:36:48,141 as compatibility and love. 834 00:36:48,141 --> 00:36:51,078 So I wanna know, do you truly love this woman, 835 00:36:51,078 --> 00:36:54,081 not because she was there during the shared trauma, 836 00:36:54,081 --> 00:36:55,582 but because of who she is? 837 00:36:55,582 --> 00:36:57,517 - I do. I love 'em both. 838 00:36:57,517 --> 00:36:58,952 I'm [bleep] torn. 839 00:36:58,952 --> 00:37:00,554 Like, I don't know what else to [bleep] tell you guys. 840 00:37:00,554 --> 00:37:03,190 Like, I'm-- I didn't expect an ambush here. 841 00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:05,325 But, you know, I'm the first person to 842 00:37:05,325 --> 00:37:06,593 admit when I [bleep] up, 843 00:37:06,593 --> 00:37:07,995 and every time I'm in a relationship, 844 00:37:07,995 --> 00:37:09,196 I hurt someone. 845 00:37:09,196 --> 00:37:10,897 "Forever alone" is not a cop-out. 846 00:37:10,897 --> 00:37:12,299 And I can promise you that I'm looking you in the eyes 847 00:37:12,299 --> 00:37:13,567 and tell you that maybe 848 00:37:13,567 --> 00:37:15,202 our paths are headed separate ways, 849 00:37:15,202 --> 00:37:16,803 but you've been my friend forever 850 00:37:16,803 --> 00:37:18,105 and I wanna be there. 851 00:37:18,105 --> 00:37:20,574 - Like, it's definitely done. 852 00:37:20,574 --> 00:37:22,709 [dramatic music] 853 00:37:22,709 --> 00:37:23,910 So I gotta go, 854 00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:25,345 because I don't want to keep crying. 855 00:37:25,345 --> 00:37:27,814 Like, I've been crying this whole time. 856 00:37:27,814 --> 00:37:29,516 Okay? - Yeah. 857 00:37:29,516 --> 00:37:30,617 - Okay. 858 00:37:34,354 --> 00:37:37,991 Evan and I just broke up 859 00:37:37,991 --> 00:37:41,328 and I feel... 860 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:44,898 Deceived. 861 00:37:44,898 --> 00:37:48,669 And it's just hard to continue on like that. 862 00:37:48,669 --> 00:37:51,138 And so I'm relieved, at the same time, 863 00:37:51,138 --> 00:37:55,375 to wake up and start over now, 864 00:37:56,109 --> 00:37:58,578 feel better. 865 00:37:58,578 --> 00:38:00,314 - I still really care about Evan. 866 00:38:00,314 --> 00:38:03,417 And I probably shouldn't be feeling this way, 867 00:38:03,417 --> 00:38:06,420 but, like, seeing him hurt today hurts me still. 868 00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:11,124 And, um, I still want to make music with him, honestly. 869 00:38:11,124 --> 00:38:14,261 Um, it just-- it's a lot of emotion. 870 00:38:14,695 --> 00:38:17,497 - I don't blame Jess nor Eliza for what they did. 871 00:38:17,497 --> 00:38:19,499 I'm the one here that [bleep] up. 872 00:38:19,499 --> 00:38:21,668 And to Jess, um, 873 00:38:21,668 --> 00:38:24,571 I'm apologizing to her for not expressing that 874 00:38:24,571 --> 00:38:28,542 maybe I did have some more feelings for Eliza and that-- 875 00:38:28,542 --> 00:38:31,411 that I saw us drifting away as well 876 00:38:31,411 --> 00:38:34,915 and just couldn't get myself to admit it. 877 00:38:34,915 --> 00:38:42,055 ♪ ♪ 878 00:38:45,325 --> 00:38:47,561 [Harlu & Savannah Hannah's "Damage Control"] 879 00:38:47,561 --> 00:38:49,196 - ♪ I get green like spinach ♪ 880 00:38:49,196 --> 00:38:50,364 ♪ Drink my Guinness ♪ 881 00:38:50,364 --> 00:38:51,565 ♪ Strut my glutes on Venice ♪ 882 00:38:51,565 --> 00:38:53,033 ♪ All my girls is winners ♪ 883 00:38:53,033 --> 00:38:55,435 ♪ Windows tinted and we ball like tennis ♪ 884 00:38:55,435 --> 00:38:57,604 ♪ Ain't no damage control ♪ 885 00:38:57,604 --> 00:39:01,274 - Hey, hey, pretty lady. How are you? 886 00:39:01,274 --> 00:39:04,010 - I'm good. How are you? - I'm doing well. 887 00:39:04,010 --> 00:39:06,213 I just wanted to check in with you. 888 00:39:06,213 --> 00:39:09,116 So are you single now? 889 00:39:09,950 --> 00:39:11,651 - Yeah. [chuckles] 890 00:39:11,651 --> 00:39:14,588 - And that's okay. - But that's okay, yeah. 891 00:39:14,588 --> 00:39:17,023 - How are things going with you and Evan? 892 00:39:17,023 --> 00:39:19,760 - Better than worst-case scenario, I suppose. 893 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,497 He did have, like, an event, show that he performed. 894 00:39:23,497 --> 00:39:24,398 - Mm. 895 00:39:24,398 --> 00:39:26,967 - So we were able to 896 00:39:26,967 --> 00:39:28,702 be around each other again. 897 00:39:28,702 --> 00:39:29,836 We're cordial. 898 00:39:29,836 --> 00:39:31,505 Um... 899 00:39:31,505 --> 00:39:34,074 so I feel, like, it's only been positive 900 00:39:34,074 --> 00:39:36,676 for my sanity 901 00:39:36,676 --> 00:39:40,347 because I can now move on with my life. 902 00:39:40,347 --> 00:39:42,849 - The perfect man is out there for you. 903 00:39:42,849 --> 00:39:44,618 And he is going to be worthy 904 00:39:44,618 --> 00:39:48,088 of all the goodness you have to give. 905 00:39:48,088 --> 00:39:49,589 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 906 00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:51,291 I'm happy you're doing well. 907 00:39:51,291 --> 00:39:52,959 I'm so proud of you. 908 00:39:52,959 --> 00:39:55,796 You were very courageous through this process. 909 00:39:55,796 --> 00:40:01,435 And although it didn't turn out the way we expected or wanted, 910 00:40:01,435 --> 00:40:04,704 I have to say, maybe it did. 911 00:40:04,704 --> 00:40:06,473 Maybe it did, 912 00:40:06,473 --> 00:40:08,108 because now you can go on... - Yeah. 913 00:40:08,108 --> 00:40:09,543 - And get what's really out there for you. 914 00:40:09,543 --> 00:40:12,179 - I'm ready to go. I'm down. [both chuckle] 915 00:40:12,179 --> 00:40:14,414 - I love it, you little cute pie. 916 00:40:14,414 --> 00:40:16,850 All right, Jessica, thank you for talking to me. 917 00:40:16,850 --> 00:40:18,418 - My pleasure. Thank you. - All right. 918 00:40:18,418 --> 00:40:20,320 Bye, sweetie. 919 00:40:20,987 --> 00:40:22,689 Cheaters beware. 920 00:40:22,689 --> 00:40:24,691 - You [bleep] kissed her, you idiot. 921 00:40:24,691 --> 00:40:27,427 - Next time you wanna be unfaithful, think again. 922 00:40:27,427 --> 00:40:30,297 Hey, let me tell you one mother[bleep] thing! 923 00:40:30,297 --> 00:40:32,432 Oh, Lord, oh, Lord, oh, Lord! 924 00:40:32,432 --> 00:40:33,433 Because I just might... 925 00:40:33,433 --> 00:40:34,568 Oh, God, she's runnin.' 926 00:40:34,568 --> 00:40:35,936 Catch you in the act.