- ♪ MTV ♪
- I'm Tami Roman.
I have been cheated on before.
- You [bleep] my man when I was married to him.
- I even wrote a book about it.
And I've made it my mission
to help suspicious lovers
catch their cheating partners in the act.
Hold up. - Man, you brought this
to my place of business? How dare you?
What is this? - Ooh.
- Oh!
Together with my relationship coaches...
- You gotta tell about the insecurities
that you have.
That's how y'all work through it.
- This is a situation where you have to say,
"I'm gonna step up and do what's right."
- And stealthy investigation team...
- They think they slick, well, we slicker.
- We won't stop until we find the truth.
Cheaters beware.
- I'm [bleep] torn. I love 'em both.
- You gotta fundamentally say, "I'm gonna be different."
- Who the [bleep] you think you are?
- Why the [bleep] y'all got cameras in my crib?
What the [bleep] is wrong with you?
- [screaming]
- Nobody should think they're better
than anybody else,
'cause y'all all [bleep] been played,
and that's just the truth.
This is "Caught in the Act: Unfaithful."
- ♪ Before we start, boy, you can keep it ♪
♪ I'm not impressed with fancy cars ♪
♪ On the boulevard, boy, you can keep it ♪
- Jessica, hi. - Nice to meet you.
- How are you?
We'll just have a seat on the sofa there.
So pretty. - Thank you. You too.
[chuckles] - Now, you reached out to us
because you feel like your partner Evan
may be unfaithful.
But I need to hear a little bit about your relationship first.
- So Evan and I, we've known each other
since we were actually in elementary school.
- Really? - Both of us started
to do our own things in life.
He started with his music career.
Like, I was just scrolling through my Instagram.
And it was, like, a reel so it just started playing.
I was like, "Ooh, this new song is good."
And then when I saw that it was him, I was like...
[gasps] "He--doggonit, no way." - What?
What happened after that?
- I made a dance to the song.
- Oh, so you did a lot for this song.
- Yeah. - [laughs]
- And then I posted it. And I--I don't think
that it was, like, the dance did so well
or the dance helped him that much,
but it was the thought that counted for him.
And what he likes to remind me of is, like,
he's in love with me his whole life.
But, like, this is something that I was finding out later.
- Because how long have you guys been together?
- A year.
- And how did it transition
to this year-long relationship?
- Slowly.
He's not in town a lot. - Okay.
- And so a lot of the times that we hang out,
we're, like, with a big group of people.
- Okay. - But when he's in work mode--
like, even right now, it's--
it's impossible to even communicate at all.
- Mm.
- Like, we only live 45 minutes apart,
but I feel like there's a lack of want for me
that I have for him.
- I understand what you're going through
when you talk about having a relationship
with a musician,
because my ex-husband was
a professional basketball player.
And their first love
is the thing that they are doing.
- ♪ I been puttin' in the work, yeah ♪
♪ They say they gave up ♪
♪ Through the stain upon my shirt, yeah ♪
- For you, music is Evan's first love.
Why do you feel it's so important for you
to keep this relationship?
- I think he's good for me in so many ways.
He wants to keep me happy
and not worrying so much.
Which is what I'm told more often than anything
is I worry too much. - Mm-hmm.
Usually, that thought process comes from something that
we've experienced in our past. - Yeah.
I've been through the wringer.
I mean, I've caught someone in a boyfriend's bed.
- Mm.
Now, see, for me,
I had to check myself, like,
over the course of my life, right?
Because I would get into relationships with people
and everything would be going great.
And I would self-sabotage the relationship because I'm--
I had been hurt so many times before.
And then I end up with somebody good
and I convince myself that there's something wrong.
Could that be what's happening here?
- Yeah. Definitely.
- And why do you think that is?
- 'Cause I'm scared.
- What are you scared of? - Of them leaving me.
- Is there something that you're not sharing with me
that would help me be able to help you?
- [exhales]
Well, in 2018, I lost my dad to suicide.
- Sorry to hear that.
- I'm very afraid of people leaving me.
- Okay.
How did that affect you?
- It broke me.
It also made me the best person I can be.
I feel him still with me.
- So what that developed in you was a fear of abandonment.
And maybe you were drawn to Evan
as a mechanism to cope with the loss.
- Yeah.
While me and Evan were dating, he lost his mom.
- Okay. Okay. Okay.
- I ended up being the person that could help him heal.
From that moment on, like, I've wanted to
hold onto this so hard, but I've been scared,
so scared of losing him.
Just all the silly fears
I feel like everyone goes through,
but, like, they're heightened for some reason lately.
There's something missing.
Something he's not telling me.
- Well... - I feel like there's people
that don't know about me.
- Is there someone that you think
he might be cheating with?
- He is best friends with the girl that
he just wrote an album with. And she doesn't know who I am.
- She should know that he has a significant other.
- Well, I mean, like, the first time that
I even knew who she was
was because he came out with a song with her.
- Mm.
- Usually your first impression if you're meeting
somebody's girlfriend for the first time is like,
"Hi." Yeah. - "Hi. Oh, my God."
And she didn't give you any of that?
- No, it was like I was no one.
When we first started dating, he was posting me.
Like, he was excited to show me off.
And now it's, like, where did that go?
- Is he posting somebody else instead of you?
- Yes.
She's in all of his music so he has that excuse.
- So he can definitely relate to her
on the music side of things. - She's beautiful.
- So are you.
You could be talking yourself...
to the edge of the ledge. - Right.
- Okay? - Exactly.
- I have been that girl afraid of them leaving me.
I wanna take this case and show you
that everything that you want is out there.
You've gotta find a way to love yourself more
than you love Evan.
Now, in order to do this successfully,
I need to know where Evan be at.
- Well, there's one studio in particular.
I can give you the address. - Perfect.
So you send me that,
and I'll get my investigation team on it.
- 'Kay. - 'Kay.
So you gonna go home, act normal.
You're not gonna let him know that you came to see me.
- Mm-kay. - All right.
Thank you so much for coming in, Jessica.
- I appreciate you. - You gonna be good.
You're gonna be good. - [chuckles]
- Thank you so much. - Thank you.
♪ ♪
- Tami gave us the down-low from his girlfriend Jessica
about the music studio that he frequents.
- Yes. - Least we have
an approximate time to expect him,
location, description. - Okay.
- So what I'm thinking is, I'm gonna get in there.
We've got two surveillance cams to hide.
One is disguised as a clock.
And then I got the, um-- the smoke detector cams.
- That should cover the room, right?
- Yes.
Hello.
Ah, this is it. This is studio B.
So I'm thinking if--hold on.
- That's where you need to put the clock camera.
- How's it look?
- Now you just need to see the back of the room
where we're gonna put that other slope thing.
- Standby a second.
[grunts]
All right, check that? - That's good. That's good.
You're clear to come out. - Okay.
All right. Now we sit and we wait.
- Yep. - And we hope
the tape doesn't fail. [chuckles]
♪ ♪
Well, hello. - Oh.
- Yeah. - Get a shot of that.
- Yep, that's him. That's our guy.
- How you doin' fam? - All right.
- Tami sent us a photo of the best friend
Jessica's suspicious of, and I think that's her.
- Let's check it out.
- [bleep]
[bleep], oh, my god!
- Did you hear what he just said?
- Yes!
[both chuckle]
- Even their friends think they look cute together.
[Liza giggles]
- Look how tender he is with her.
- He is.
- I think that we need to get a little bit more.
It's good, but it's not enough.
This--there's no crime in that.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
We got him. Eyes on him. - Here we go.
Let's go. - And we're movin'.
- Seatbelt.
Not knowing where he's going,
we just gotta stay tight-- tight on him.
It's a cute neighborhood.
Guess this is where you take your honey.
He's parking, so I'll grab up here.
- All right. And then I'll go on foot, yeah?
- You got audio feed? You got visual?
- Yeah. - All right.
What'd you bring? What do you have?
- I got my cross camera.
I love this thing.
It's my favorite piece of jewelry.
- Here we go. [car door closes]
- He just crossed the street.
- He's going into a boutique. Stand by.
It's the boutique with the white painted brick.
- 'Kay, he's in this store right here.
I'm going in.
- I got you. [door creaks, slams]
- Yeah, it [indistinct]
- You like it?
You should keep looking, though.
- They just left the clothing store.
- Yeah, I see them.
♪ ♪
Patrice, do you have 'em?
- Stand by. I have them crossing another street.
- Copy that. You stay with them
and I'm gonna find a place to put the car.
- And this is gonna be a while.
And so we wait.
[notifications chiming]
♪ ♪
- Dude. - Dude. It's done.
They are in love. Period. I'm telling you right now.
Jessica will know, the-- - What? What?
- It's not even, like, making out or the kissing.
It's the words. They--they're in love.
- This one's gonna hurt. This one's gonna hurt.
- We followed Evan to a dive bar.
- He posted this on his IG, so we know he's here.
- We're gonna go in and get some surveillance inside.
So I've got the necklace cam.
Try to get on video what I can't get
on the necklace cam. - No. I got--I got your back.
- All right. - I got your back.
- Find him, sidle up next to him,
and see what I can get out of him.
If it doesn't look good to make contact, I won't.
But I'm hoping that it's a situation
where I can do that and it'll be natural.
- We got this. Get him.
- No, you're too clean to paint.
[FaceTime ringing]
- Mm.
[hip-hop music]
- How are you? - Good. How are you?
- Good to see you again. - Thank you. You too.
- Please have a seat.
This gentleman right here is Mr. Ken.
- Hi. - Hello. How are you?
- Good. How are you? - Great to meet you.
- He's here as my relationship expert.
Now, this footage I just received this morning.
And Coach Ken here is going to help you
in the event you see something that you don't like.
- Okay. - Okay? Here we go.
So you gave us the address of the studio
where Evan usually frequents,
and so our investigation team went there.
That's him with the blue hair, correct?
- Mm-hmm. - All right.
- But that redhead. Is that Liza?
- I think so. - Okay.
So she arrived at the studio.
This is the studio.
- Yeah, dude, incredible.
- [laughs] Oh, really?
Wow.
- He's so aggressive. Right?
He's always the person who initiates contact.
- Right. - Yes.
- And that's how he treats me.
- The "forever alone single life" is hard for him,
but he's supposed to be in a relationship with you?
- Like, she's the only one that I wasn't sure
why she acted like I didn't exist
when she was around. - Okay.
- And he literally says the same things
to both of us.
- We kept following Evan,
and this is who he meets up with.
Liza.
And they, quite honestly, spent a day of shopping
and hanging out and spending time together.
- We've been recently talking about getting a tattoo, too.
[chuckles] - Really?
- Yup. - Mm.
- And he always makes this joke,
"I'm gonna get your name on my knuckles."
- Oh, wow.
- Oh, my God. You're kidding me!
You're [bleep] kidding.
- [chuckles] - You're [bleep] kidding!
Like, it's never-ending with this guy.
My freakin' God.
- [sniffles] "Really cute. So cute."
- He made his way to the tattoo shop.
- Yeah?
- She said, "I love you."
And then they actually get matching tattoos.
- I wanna throw up. [chuckles]
- We followed him...
and he ended up at a bar.
That woman that's sitting with him is our decoy.
And she was able to get him talking about the two of you.
- Is he on the phone with Liza?
- Yes. Liza FaceTimed him.
- Mm.
- Wow, I exist.
- [groans]
- Yeah.
- Mm-mm. - Wow.
- So now you've seen it all,
how does all of that make you feel?
- I feel really stupid that I expected better. [chuckles]
That's what I feel stupid about.
I'm not surprised. And I just feel really dumb.
- The truth is, I don't believe he was putting on an act
when he was telling you he felt the way that he did.
There is a tremendous need for connection in him.
He lost his mother and maybe he feels like
that I need to connect because I lost this part of me.
He did it with you. He's like, "I'm gonna go overboard
to connect, to connect, to connect,"
because he felt like that you could help him through
these stages of grief.
Now, he might not have been as emotionally connected
as you thought he was because of the shared trauma.
But he still needs that connection.
You--you cannot beat yourself up.
You gotta be kind to yourself because the truth is,
all of us, in our life at some point, have felt betrayed.
- So this is how it goes.
You can sit down with Liza
and you guys have a conversation.
Then you guys team up
and go speak with Evan together.
Or do you want to catch both of them in the act
and do what we call around here a takedown?
- I wanna meet with her, just the two of us.
I think I've seen enough of them together.
I don't--if she doesn't know, then she doesn't know.
Like, why should I...
make her a part of that? - Right.
- The roles could have been reversed.
She could have been the one that came to you
that knew about me first.
You know? - Right.
And I'm happy to hear you say that
because sometimes the other woman doesn't know.
I will get my investigation team
back on the case.
From this footage, we kind of feel like
there's some, you know, mo--
something inside of him... - Right.
- Where he wants to be with Liza.
But we still don't know
if there's anything physical going on.
So once we find her location,
Ken and I will come and scoop you up
and take you so that you can have a conversation with her.
And then you ladies need to go talk to him.
'Cause I'm gonna get the truth for you.
- ♪ Don't call me up ♪
♪ When you're looking at my photos ♪
♪ You're getting hot, losing control ♪
♪ And I know you said ♪
♪ That I'd changed with my cold heart ♪
- Thank you, Ken.
- My pleasure. We got work to do.
- Yes, we do.
So my investigation team let me know that
Liza was getting off work.
I hit Jessica up, so she knows we're on the way.
- I just--you know,
she's such a-- just a sweet spirit, though.
And sometimes the sweetest spirits
are the ones that get hurt the most.
- The most, yes.
- Yeah, that's her. There she is.
- Oh, damn. Jessica wearing
her takedown outfit.
Oh, well, wh-- what's happened here?
You switched it up.
Now you giving me bad bitch vibes.
Okay. We got the call, Ken and I,
from our private investigators.
Liza's at work
and she's supposed to be getting off shortly,
so we're gonna go meet her
as soon as she exits the building.
You are going to ask this woman,
in a noncombative way,
all of the questions you need answers to.
- You wanna tell her first the emotional connection
and the type of relationship that you have with Evan.
And the first question needs to be,
"Did you know that Evan and I
are in a committed relationship?"
♪ ♪
Okay. Here she comes.
- You ready? - All right.
- Here we go. - We got you, all right?
- What are these cameras for?
- Hey, can I talk to you real quick?
- Do I know you?
- Yeah, we've met before.
I'm guessing you don't recognize me.
But I wanted to talk to you because I'm starting to feel
really concerned about my relationship with Evan.
And I know that you two are close...
- Wait, I'm so sorry. Evan, like, E-Stro?
- Yes. - Like, forever alone E-Stro?
- Yes. So he and I have been in a relationship
for about a year.
I've met you before at a couple parties.
- I'm so sorry, I don't recognize you.
- But with--it's okay. - [scoffs]
Not "I don't recognize her." - "I recognize you."
- How come you don't know about me?
That's--wouldn't that... - That--that--
- Make you feel weird? - That's a great question.
I would love to know the same thing.
I am actually pretty upset
at the fact that I don't know about you.
We kind of talk about everything, I feel like,
so this is, like...
[chuckles] This is, like, crazy to me.
- Well, I do have people to help me.
- I think--I think she-- I think she wants--
- All right. - I thought he would never want
to be in a relationship, so this is...
- Hello. - Hello.
- My name is Tami Roman. - Okay.
And you are on a show called
"Caught in the Act: Unfaithful."
- Okay. - Because Jessica came to us
with concerns about her relationship with Evan.
We have had him under surveillance
and we found out that he's been involved with you.
- Yes. - So that is why she's here.
- Are you in love with him?
- Um, I did not know he has a girlfriend.
I do love him.
But I hope you know, I've never done anything with Evan.
When we started making music together,
we made a vow to each other that we would never date
'cause we didn't want that to get in the way of our music.
- Has Evan ever talked about
wanting to be in a relationship with you?
- He is a little bit flirty with me.
And he does say, you know, uh,
if he's gonna be with anyone then it's gonna be me.
But he's forever alone. So that's why I'm so confused
at the fact that he does have a girlfriend.
But I...
I--I thought he was single. Like, he acts single.
He's very, you know, flirty and very outgoing.
And he is-- - From woman to woman,
if you were me... - Uh-huh.
- Do you feel like what he's doing with you
is cheating on me?
[tense music]
- From woman to woman, if you were me...
- Uh-huh.
- Do you feel like what he's doing with you
is cheating on me?
♪ ♪
- Yeah.
- I'm at the point where I can't take it anymore.
- I would be just as upset as you are.
I've been cheated on. I've been the side chick.
Didn't know that I was,
and I got my heart broken from that.
So I couldn't imagine
what you were going through, seeing this.
- But I think guys need to go speak
to Evan together. - Yeah, we do.
- He hasn't really operated as a best friend to you.
- You're right. - There's been secrecy.
- That's what I'm upset about. - There's been lying.
- Yeah. He needs to be confronted from you about that.
- Are you willing to, like, team up with me, though,
and not just, like, go tell him everything I'm doing?
'Cause I would like you to do this with me.
- You know what? There's a secret part of me
that's always wanted to team up with a girl
and do this... - [chuckles]
- So I am very down.
- So is there a way that we can link up with Evan?
- I have a studio session with Evan tonight.
- Now, is this the studio
where you guys normally go have sessions at?
- Yeah. - Perfect.
- Well, let's go.
♪ ♪
[sly music]
♪ ♪
- We had our investigation team
come over and rewire the space
so that we would be able to see
everything that was going on.
Do you have how you want to approach this situation
worked out in your mind when you see Evan?
- I have this, like, huge fear that
he's just gonna straight up be, like, acting like
I don't exist or something. - Mm-hmm.
- I want her to see that
I'm not, like, making this [bleep] up.
- We want to make sure that when you walk away from
this interaction, that you are confident about
who you are, who they are, and where you wanna go with it.
- We can actually peek in
to what's happening in the studio now.
- I wanna see.
- Okay.
- ♪ When I say that I love you ♪
♪ I know that I do ♪
♪ But I just do not see ♪
- This is the song he wrote for me.
Is he telling her it's about her now?
- I feel like you-- it's time for you to go in
and address both of them.
Are you ready?
- Let's go to work.
- Just know that we'll be here.
And if you need me, I'll be right in.
♪ ♪
Oh, [bleep].
- [sighs]
- What are you doing here?
- Why don't you let Liza know who I am first?
- [sighs] Y'all really be, uh, doing this?
- You're gonna treat me like I don't exist
after I watched footage of you disrespecting what we have.
You're not even gonna look at me?
- Look, my head is [bleep].
- Did you think I would feel this way?
- Look, I'm sorry to both of you at this point.
I didn't know that I was gonna be walking into
the [bleep] atom bomb right here.
- You did this to yourself!
- Yeah, I guess I did. - You literally made your bed.
- Child, let's get all up in here.
- All right. Let's go to work.
- You're in love with her. Why don't you just say it?
[dramatic music]
- ♪ One, two, three, wop ♪
♪ Everything I said went right over your head ♪
- You did this to yourself.
- Yeah, I guess I did. - You literally made your bed.
- My head is [bleep] up. - You're in love with her.
Why don't you just say it? - What are you talking about?
- I saw on camera.
- Hello, hello, hello.
- Hi. - How are you?
- Not the greatest at this very second.
- I can imagine. - Yeah.
- Uh, Evan, I know who you are.
My name is Tami Roman.
This is my dear friend Coach Ken.
And you are on a show called
"Caught in the Act: Unfaithful."
- [bleep]. - Jessica came to us
because she thought there was some infidelity.
The intimacy wasn't there like it had been.
And she wanted to check and find out the truth.
We did surveillance, okay? - I understand.
- And we found that you were frolicking around town
with this young lady, Liza. - Yes.
- We actually sent a decoy into the bar
to have a conversation with you.
- [sighs] Oh, man.
- And that person asked you several questions...
- Mm-hmm. - To which--
one of them specifically being,
"if there was one person who had my back, who I love,
"who I'd want to spend the rest of my life with,
who would that be?"
You said it's Liza.
- I said that? - You did.
- I was very drunk. I know that much.
- Now, what we not gonna do is blame it on the alcohol.
- I'm not blaming it on the alcohol.
My life is crazy. I'm torn. I love 'em both.
I'm so focused on this music,
and maybe I'm losing myself. - What about my feelings?
- Your feelings mean everything to me.
But we--like, Jess, we barely hang out.
Like, what do you want from me? Like--
- Stop acting like I don't exist!
Like it's not a thing. - [sighs]
- This is, like, super awkward for me.
I feel like a side chick almost.
- [bleep].
That's the last thing I ever wanted
to make you feel like. - Mm-hmm.
- Because-- - 'Cause now that
her feelings are hurt, but my feelings... [chuckles]
- So what we're here to do in this moment
is be able to provide
both of these ladies with some truth.
- Yeah.
I think I'm meant to be alone at this point.
This whole situation makes me realize that.
I have this tattooed on my wedding finger.
I'm forever alone. - I have a problem, though.
You use the "forever alone" as a tool.
You use it as a tool to get women engaged in you.
- That is not true at all. - No, I'm not saying
that you're doing it consciously.
But what you are doing consciously,
you are hurting people in the process.
Now, it may come from a place of need. I get that.
But we've got to acknowledge that.
- Yeah. - Let met talk to you.
I wanna talk to you one-on-one.
- And I'd like to talk to you.
- I do think I'm meant to be alone.
I--I hurt people when I get in relationships.
And I never meant to do that to Jess, you know?
I didn't physically cheat on her.
Maybe I did emotionally.
Like, that's... - And that's--that's--
- Maybe is worse. - That's the point.
Emotional cheating is far greater than
you just sticking it somewhere
and going on about your business.
You connected with Liza. - Yeah.
- And that ultimately ended up hurting Jess.
Where you could have sat her down
and said--had this conversation that we're having.
'Cause it seems, like, really, your head is somewhere else.
- You know, ever since I lost my mom,
I live this reckless life.
- And was your mom, like,
a very poignant figure in your life?
- My mom was my biggest fan.
We had the greatest connection ever.
She picked apart every lyric of every song I ever made ever.
- Mm-hmm. - That [bleep] me up, you know?
Like, my mom, you know, she was a heroin addict
my whole life and she finally got sober.
And she relapsed and asked me to come see her.
And I was so mad at her, I told her no.
So she went home and took her life.
- I want you to understand that you can't feel guilty
about how things transpired with your mom.
- Yeah, I mean, can you blame me, though?
- But you can't continue to feel guilty
because of it. - I know.
And I can't be hurting other people because of it.
That's what I can't be doing, like--
or what I shouldn't be doing.
- You guys have formed a codependency relationship
where his victim mentality,
"what I have gone through"--
and you have to be there-- both of you have to be there
to reach over and help him.
He sat here and said, "I'm [bleep] up."
You know, he told you, "I love you.
I've gotten close to you,"
and neither one of you reacted.
Neither one of you.
But the question is, where does that come from in you?
- I've really known him for so frickin' long.
Like, I don't want to lose that friendship.
- Yeah. - And I let him talk me into
crossing that boundary, with fear from the beginning
that this was gonna be what happened.
- You want to avoid conflict.
"I know you just came through some grief.
"So let's keep this above board.
"Let's keep this high level.
And we're gonna keep kickin' it."
You know--you know what that gets you?
- Nowhere? - That gets you pain.
- I've dealt with a lot of stuff, too,
where I feel like...
[voice breaking] I need to be there for other people.
And I know he has gone through a lot,
I know it's not fake but
I think I just care very deeply about people.
- But, you know, that keeps you broken too.
- Yeah.
- You know that, right? - Mm-hmm.
- And that part of you needs to be helped
so that you can be whole.
Because this cycle is going to continue
whether it's Evan or someone else.
- Everything that I saw from all the footage that I watched,
the implication was
that you wanted to be with Liza.
- And I'll be honest, the last thing
my mom told my family before she took her life was, um,
that I was gonna marry Liza.
- Wow.
That's deep. - Yeah.
Yeah. My heart's torn.
I think you know what you feel
and you know what's real to you.
You're just scared to say it
because of the fact that you just lost your mom
in a way that was very traumatic to you.
And in the event you walk in there,
and you say to Liza,
"I wanna be with you," and she turns you down,
that's gonna trigger you and send you right back
to that element of loss.
- Maybe I refuse to believe it or admit it,
but you're not gonna get me to have to choose one.
[dramatic music]
- All right. Let's go back in.
♪ ♪
Evan, I want you to have a seat too.
I was outside having a conversation with Evan
and I wanted to have a dialogue.
We're just gonna go down the line
until we get to Evan.
- [scoffs]
I understand, in your eyes,
you don't feel you cheated.
But...
how could you expect me to feel loved by you right now?
- You're right.
- You're not looking at me in my eyes.
- When I look in your eyes, I think of all of our experiences
and all of our past [bleep] and it's tough for me.
That's the honest truth, so...
- So I guess it's just hard that
he doesn't feel horrible that he's pushing me away.
- I do. Maybe it wasn't, cheating, like, physically,
but clearly, I emotionally cheated.
And in this situation,
it's probably worse than physically cheating.
- The biggest thing with me is I just felt blindsided.
We said, "We can never have feelings for each other.
We can never date," and I stuck to that promise.
But you just being so flirty, I guess, with me,
and me looking back at that,
knowing you had a girlfriend hurts.
- In a perfect world, if you hadn't made that pact,
would you be interested in dating Evan
if it wouldn't mess up the music?
- No.
It's just hard-- it's hard for me
to picture music without him, and--but--
this is all so crazy to me, I don't...
I don't know. - I don't blame you for that.
- And I think it needs time.
- His mother, before she passed...
Said that he should marry Liza.
I don't know if you knew that.
- [sobs]
[dramatic music]
- His mother, before she passed,
said that he should marry Liza.
I don't know if you knew that.
- [sobs]
Like, I was just talking to him about his mom recently
and, like, telling him how much she meant to me
and wanting to, like,
have him, like, talk about how he feels about it,
so that just hurts.
- Because of your mom passing,
is that the reason you tried to connect with Liza?
Was that the reason? - No.
They were both there for me during the passing of my mom.
Jessica was out of town, so she helped me
through texts and through calls and [bleep].
But the day that my mom took her life,
Liza showed up at my house that day
and was there for me.
- You and Jess have shared trauma.
And a lot of times when people have shared trauma,
what it does, it mistakes itself
as compatibility and love.
So I wanna know, do you truly love this woman,
not because she was there during the shared trauma,
but because of who she is?
- I do. I love 'em both.
I'm [bleep] torn.
Like, I don't know what else to [bleep] tell you guys.
Like, I'm-- I didn't expect an ambush here.
But, you know, I'm the first person to
admit when I [bleep] up,
and every time I'm in a relationship,
I hurt someone.
"Forever alone" is not a cop-out.
And I can promise you that I'm looking you in the eyes
and tell you that maybe
our paths are headed separate ways,
but you've been my friend forever
and I wanna be there.
- Like, it's definitely done.
[dramatic music]
So I gotta go,
because I don't want to keep crying.
Like, I've been crying this whole time.
Okay? - Yeah.
- Okay.
Evan and I just broke up
and I feel...
Deceived.
And it's just hard to continue on like that.
And so I'm relieved, at the same time,
to wake up and start over now,
feel better.
- I still really care about Evan.
And I probably shouldn't be feeling this way,
but, like, seeing him hurt today hurts me still.
And, um, I still want to make music with him, honestly.
Um, it just-- it's a lot of emotion.
- I don't blame Jess nor Eliza for what they did.
I'm the one here that [bleep] up.
And to Jess, um,
I'm apologizing to her for not expressing that
maybe I did have some more feelings for Eliza and that--
that I saw us drifting away as well
and just couldn't get myself to admit it.
♪ ♪
[Harlu & Savannah Hannah's "Damage Control"]
- ♪ I get green like spinach ♪
♪ Drink my Guinness ♪
♪ Strut my glutes on Venice ♪
♪ All my girls is winners ♪
♪ Windows tinted and we ball like tennis ♪
♪ Ain't no damage control ♪
- Hey, hey, pretty lady. How are you?
- I'm good. How are you? - I'm doing well.
I just wanted to check in with you.
So are you single now?
- Yeah. [chuckles]
- And that's okay. - But that's okay, yeah.
- How are things going with you and Evan?
- Better than worst-case scenario, I suppose.
He did have, like, an event, show that he performed.
- Mm.
- So we were able to
be around each other again.
We're cordial.
Um...
so I feel, like, it's only been positive
for my sanity
because I can now move on with my life.
- The perfect man is out there for you.
And he is going to be worthy
of all the goodness you have to give.
- Thank you. - You're welcome.
I'm happy you're doing well.
I'm so proud of you.
You were very courageous through this process.
And although it didn't turn out the way we expected or wanted,
I have to say, maybe it did.
Maybe it did,
because now you can go on... - Yeah.
- And get what's really out there for you.
- I'm ready to go. I'm down. [both chuckle]
- I love it, you little cute pie.
All right, Jessica, thank you for talking to me.
- My pleasure. Thank you. - All right.
Bye, sweetie.
Cheaters beware.
- You [bleep] kissed her, you idiot.
- Next time you wanna be unfaithful, think again.
Hey, let me tell you one mother[bleep] thing!
Oh, Lord, oh, Lord, oh, Lord!
Because I just might...
Oh, God, she's runnin.'
Catch you in the act.