1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:03,002 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:03,837 --> 00:00:05,271 - I'm Tami Roman. 3 00:00:05,271 --> 00:00:07,240 I have been cheated on before. 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,110 - You [bleep] my man when I was married to him. 5 00:00:10,110 --> 00:00:11,845 - I even wrote a book about it, 6 00:00:11,845 --> 00:00:15,648 and I've made it my mission to help suspicious lovers 7 00:00:15,648 --> 00:00:17,484 catch their cheating partners in the act. 8 00:00:17,484 --> 00:00:18,785 Hold up. 9 00:00:18,785 --> 00:00:20,086 - And you brought this to my place of business! 10 00:00:20,086 --> 00:00:21,588 How dare you! What is this? 11 00:00:21,588 --> 00:00:22,956 - Oh! 12 00:00:22,956 --> 00:00:25,759 - Together, with my relationship coaches... 13 00:00:25,759 --> 00:00:27,827 - You got to tell her about the insecurities that you have. 14 00:00:27,827 --> 00:00:29,295 That's how y'all work through it. 15 00:00:29,295 --> 00:00:30,964 - This is a situation where you have to say, 16 00:00:30,964 --> 00:00:32,866 I'm gonna up and do what's right. 17 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:35,135 - And stealthy investigation team. 18 00:00:35,135 --> 00:00:36,770 - They think they slick? 19 00:00:36,770 --> 00:00:38,171 Well, we slicker. 20 00:00:38,171 --> 00:00:41,141 - We won't stop until we find the truth. 21 00:00:41,141 --> 00:00:43,343 Cheaters, beware. 22 00:00:43,343 --> 00:00:44,644 - I'm [bleep] torn. 23 00:00:44,644 --> 00:00:46,212 I love them both. 24 00:00:46,212 --> 00:00:49,382 - You've got to fundamentally say, I'm gonna be different. 25 00:00:49,382 --> 00:00:51,184 - Who the [bleep] you think you are? 26 00:00:51,184 --> 00:00:53,019 - Why the [bleep] y'all got cameras in my-- 27 00:00:53,019 --> 00:00:54,187 what the [bleep] is wrong with you? 28 00:00:54,187 --> 00:00:56,623 - Tell me, tell me! 29 00:00:56,623 --> 00:00:59,292 - Nobody should think they're better than anybody else 30 00:00:59,292 --> 00:01:00,994 because y'all all [bleep] been played, 31 00:01:00,994 --> 00:01:02,829 and that's just the truth. 32 00:01:02,829 --> 00:01:06,766 This is "Caught In The Act: Unfaithful." 33 00:01:09,428 --> 00:01:10,929 - ♪ Walk through doors with confidence, damn ♪ 34 00:01:10,929 --> 00:01:12,364 ♪ Click, click, always making moves, mm-hmm ♪ 35 00:01:12,364 --> 00:01:13,599 ♪ Yeah, baby, I was born with this ♪ 36 00:01:13,599 --> 00:01:15,033 ♪ There's no stopping this ♪ 37 00:01:15,033 --> 00:01:16,402 - Thank you for coming in. 38 00:01:16,402 --> 00:01:18,504 - Thanks for having me. - Absolutely. 39 00:01:18,504 --> 00:01:20,839 Now, tell me a little bit about you. 40 00:01:20,839 --> 00:01:22,141 What do you do for a living? 41 00:01:22,141 --> 00:01:23,776 - I own my own business. 42 00:01:23,776 --> 00:01:25,444 - Nice. 43 00:01:26,779 --> 00:01:28,180 - OK, come on now. 44 00:01:28,180 --> 00:01:29,214 No wonder you got such pretty skin. 45 00:01:29,214 --> 00:01:30,682 - Thank you. 46 00:01:30,682 --> 00:01:34,653 - OK, so I know that you contacted me because you think 47 00:01:34,653 --> 00:01:37,222 that there could potentially be something 48 00:01:37,222 --> 00:01:39,925 going on in your relationship with Brandon. 49 00:01:39,925 --> 00:01:41,360 - Yeah. 50 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,562 - And I'd like to go all the way back to the beginning. 51 00:01:43,562 --> 00:01:46,432 So tell me about that. How did you two meet? 52 00:01:46,432 --> 00:01:48,600 - Well, we started off as friends first. 53 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,868 - How long were you guys friends? 54 00:01:49,868 --> 00:01:51,737 - I want to say for about two years. 55 00:01:51,737 --> 00:01:53,338 - OK. 56 00:01:53,338 --> 00:01:56,008 - It's different when you are dating somebody 57 00:01:56,008 --> 00:01:58,010 and you're looking at somebody for interest versus being, 58 00:01:58,010 --> 00:01:59,478 you know, a friend. 59 00:01:59,478 --> 00:02:00,879 When you're just friends first, it's like you know 60 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:01,947 everything about you even-- 61 00:02:01,947 --> 00:02:03,382 - Yes, because you're very open, 62 00:02:03,382 --> 00:02:05,818 you're talking, y'all are sharing secrets. 63 00:02:05,818 --> 00:02:07,219 Mm-hmm, got it. 64 00:02:07,219 --> 00:02:08,754 - And we've been together for six years now. 65 00:02:08,754 --> 00:02:10,789 - Six years. - Yeah, it's a long time. 66 00:02:10,789 --> 00:02:12,191 - Wow. 67 00:02:12,191 --> 00:02:13,592 - Yeah. 68 00:02:13,592 --> 00:02:15,327 - But you know what I love about that, 69 00:02:15,327 --> 00:02:16,695 is a lot of people don't understand 70 00:02:16,695 --> 00:02:18,530 that you have to be friends first. 71 00:02:18,530 --> 00:02:20,065 - Right. 72 00:02:20,065 --> 00:02:21,433 - A lot of people rush right into the relationship part, 73 00:02:21,433 --> 00:02:23,368 then they start learning each other, 74 00:02:23,368 --> 00:02:25,370 then it's like, well, hold up now, child. 75 00:02:25,370 --> 00:02:26,972 I don't really like that. You know what I'm saying? 76 00:02:26,972 --> 00:02:28,373 - Yeah. 77 00:02:28,373 --> 00:02:29,641 - So you guys actually have a good foundation. 78 00:02:29,641 --> 00:02:31,510 - Yeah, he's perfect to be around, 79 00:02:31,510 --> 00:02:33,111 and, you know, we both have kids. 80 00:02:33,111 --> 00:02:34,680 I have a daughter. He has a daughter. 81 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,515 - Oh, nice. - They're very close. 82 00:02:36,515 --> 00:02:38,450 - And you had your daughter before you got with Brandon. 83 00:02:38,450 --> 00:02:40,219 And he had-- - Yeah. 84 00:02:40,219 --> 00:02:41,687 - OK, so you guys are a blended family. 85 00:02:41,687 --> 00:02:44,656 - Yeah, we're blended family, so we're all very close. 86 00:02:44,656 --> 00:02:48,293 - Nice, now, do you feel like you're gonna spend the rest 87 00:02:48,293 --> 00:02:49,895 of your life with Brandon? 88 00:02:49,895 --> 00:02:51,563 - I feel like I could. 89 00:02:51,563 --> 00:02:53,665 If I look at it just from a family dynamic, 90 00:02:53,665 --> 00:02:56,301 I could say yes because, like, this person 91 00:02:56,301 --> 00:02:57,769 has seen my child grow. 92 00:02:57,769 --> 00:03:00,439 I don't want to just-- it'll be a lot, 93 00:03:00,439 --> 00:03:02,474 you know, and I just don't-- 94 00:03:02,474 --> 00:03:05,143 I don't want to waste my time with the wrong person. 95 00:03:05,143 --> 00:03:07,479 - Totally get this mentality. 96 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:08,780 I am here with you. 97 00:03:08,780 --> 00:03:12,584 - Yeah, but then at the same time, we-- 98 00:03:12,584 --> 00:03:16,255 well, when we were friends, he always knew I'm bisexual. 99 00:03:16,255 --> 00:03:17,456 - OK. 100 00:03:17,456 --> 00:03:19,825 - So we have fun, and then, you know, 101 00:03:19,825 --> 00:03:23,128 if we're out, if we find a girl and it's spontaneous, 102 00:03:23,128 --> 00:03:24,463 and it's one thing leads to another. 103 00:03:24,463 --> 00:03:28,233 - I am so, like, really and truly-- 104 00:03:28,233 --> 00:03:30,435 I be, like, so interested in this 105 00:03:30,435 --> 00:03:33,639 because I'm not a person that would have a threesome, 106 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,841 or introduce anybody into my relationship. 107 00:03:35,841 --> 00:03:39,311 So I really want to know how that conversation went. 108 00:03:39,311 --> 00:03:40,979 - Going into a relationship with me, he knew 109 00:03:40,979 --> 00:03:43,382 that would be a part of myself that wasn't gonna change. 110 00:03:43,382 --> 00:03:45,617 I'm always gonna be attracted to women. 111 00:03:45,617 --> 00:03:47,286 - Oh, so he understood that. 112 00:03:47,286 --> 00:03:49,254 So from your standpoint, it's like, 113 00:03:49,254 --> 00:03:50,722 even if I'm with a man, 114 00:03:50,722 --> 00:03:53,358 I'm gonna be over here too a little bit 115 00:03:53,358 --> 00:03:54,693 every now and again. 116 00:03:54,693 --> 00:03:56,328 - Yeah, he was just always aware 117 00:03:56,328 --> 00:03:58,530 that I would be open to that. 118 00:03:58,530 --> 00:04:02,234 - Was the aspect of having other people 119 00:04:02,234 --> 00:04:04,269 in your relationship introduced, 120 00:04:04,269 --> 00:04:05,504 or did that come down the line? 121 00:04:05,504 --> 00:04:06,772 - No, that was down the line. 122 00:04:06,772 --> 00:04:08,640 You know, we were with each other 123 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,677 for about two years, and then it's like, OK. 124 00:04:11,677 --> 00:04:13,045 You know, we go to clubs, and I'm like, 125 00:04:13,045 --> 00:04:14,479 you know, we talk about girls, and it's just-- 126 00:04:14,479 --> 00:04:16,415 it was the first time it was spontaneous. 127 00:04:16,415 --> 00:04:19,284 - So you guys are in the club. - Yes. 128 00:04:19,284 --> 00:04:21,620 - And you see somebody. - Mm-hmm. 129 00:04:21,620 --> 00:04:25,023 - And you're like she's cute, and he's like, mm-hmm, she is. 130 00:04:25,023 --> 00:04:27,159 So you go up to this girl. 131 00:04:27,159 --> 00:04:28,894 - Yes. - And say what? 132 00:04:28,894 --> 00:04:31,129 - Ask her how she's doing, would you like to come 133 00:04:31,129 --> 00:04:32,331 to my table and hang out? 134 00:04:32,331 --> 00:04:33,932 You know, would you like a drink? 135 00:04:33,932 --> 00:04:36,501 - So what, now she comes over to the table and you're like, 136 00:04:36,501 --> 00:04:38,403 so this is my dude, boo-boo. 137 00:04:38,403 --> 00:04:41,573 - Mm-hmm, and you know, the girl's flirting back, 138 00:04:41,573 --> 00:04:43,575 and you just feed off energy, you know. 139 00:04:43,575 --> 00:04:45,677 - OK. - But we have boundaries. 140 00:04:45,677 --> 00:04:46,912 - OK. 141 00:04:46,912 --> 00:04:48,981 - We had certain rules set into place. 142 00:04:48,981 --> 00:04:50,315 - What were the rules? 143 00:04:50,315 --> 00:04:51,683 - I'm the one that picks the girl. 144 00:04:51,683 --> 00:04:52,818 - OK. 145 00:04:52,818 --> 00:04:54,820 - You know, I'm picking the partner. 146 00:04:54,820 --> 00:04:58,056 It's not, he gets to go out and do whatever he wants to do. 147 00:04:58,056 --> 00:04:59,791 It's not him venturing off. 148 00:04:59,791 --> 00:05:03,028 I think, if we're doing something in the moment, 149 00:05:03,028 --> 00:05:04,596 it's that moment. 150 00:05:04,596 --> 00:05:06,264 It doesn't mean that later, he's gonna take this person's 151 00:05:06,264 --> 00:05:07,699 number and call them later. 152 00:05:07,699 --> 00:05:09,468 He likes it. - OK. 153 00:05:09,468 --> 00:05:11,670 - A little bit too much. 154 00:05:11,670 --> 00:05:13,739 - Oh. - Well, I don't like that. 155 00:05:13,739 --> 00:05:15,307 - What I'm gathering is that you 156 00:05:15,307 --> 00:05:17,309 feel a little insecure now. 157 00:05:17,309 --> 00:05:19,878 - Right. - Because he's gone past you. 158 00:05:19,878 --> 00:05:24,816 He's gone around you and is now out and about, 159 00:05:24,816 --> 00:05:29,755 flirting, engaging, interacting with other women 160 00:05:29,755 --> 00:05:32,624 that you didn't specifically choose. 161 00:05:32,624 --> 00:05:34,593 - Right, and I went through his phone, 162 00:05:34,593 --> 00:05:37,429 and I found him, like, being flirty on Instagram, 163 00:05:37,429 --> 00:05:40,632 commenting on girls' photos. 164 00:05:40,632 --> 00:05:43,702 - Well, maybe he was scouting for y'all. 165 00:05:43,702 --> 00:05:44,903 - He ain't supposed to do the scouting. 166 00:05:44,903 --> 00:05:46,238 I'm the one that's supposed to do it. 167 00:05:46,238 --> 00:05:47,539 We made that very clear from the beginning. 168 00:05:47,539 --> 00:05:49,207 - So let me ask you this. 169 00:05:49,207 --> 00:05:51,877 Are there any intimacy issues? 170 00:05:51,877 --> 00:05:55,113 - He likes to be intimate all the time, and right now, 171 00:05:55,113 --> 00:05:57,816 we're not engaging in anything right now 172 00:05:57,816 --> 00:06:00,519 because we're not good, and I just--you know. 173 00:06:00,519 --> 00:06:03,355 - And how long has this withholding 174 00:06:03,355 --> 00:06:05,023 of the goodies been? 175 00:06:05,023 --> 00:06:06,191 - Ha! 176 00:06:06,191 --> 00:06:08,000 Uh, for a while. 177 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:08,660 Uh, for a while. 178 00:06:08,660 --> 00:06:12,497 I think that we need to fix the trust 179 00:06:12,497 --> 00:06:15,467 because if I can't fully trust you, 180 00:06:15,467 --> 00:06:17,869 it's just-- it's not gonna happen. 181 00:06:17,869 --> 00:06:20,706 His work hours have a lot to do with it too. 182 00:06:20,706 --> 00:06:22,374 - What does he do for a living? 183 00:06:22,374 --> 00:06:24,142 - He is a video editor. 184 00:06:24,142 --> 00:06:27,245 Sometimes, he does stay overnight because sometimes, 185 00:06:27,245 --> 00:06:28,880 he'll sleep there. 186 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,183 It looks funny, and me, I'm home with the kids. 187 00:06:31,183 --> 00:06:32,517 It's two girls. 188 00:06:32,517 --> 00:06:33,618 I can't just go, and pop up on you, 189 00:06:33,618 --> 00:06:34,853 and see what you're doing. 190 00:06:34,853 --> 00:06:36,421 - Mm, mm, mm. - Yeah. 191 00:06:36,421 --> 00:06:39,958 - I just feel like I don't know. 192 00:06:40,892 --> 00:06:44,863 If the relationship started off as monogamous, 193 00:06:44,863 --> 00:06:48,066 that is what most women want. 194 00:06:48,066 --> 00:06:49,801 - Right. - Period. 195 00:06:49,801 --> 00:06:53,438 Somebody that's into them, don't want nobody else. 196 00:06:54,573 --> 00:06:57,476 You chose the opposite. - Yeah. 197 00:06:57,476 --> 00:07:00,212 - And it was you that brought this into your relationship. 198 00:07:00,212 --> 00:07:01,713 - Yeah. 199 00:07:01,713 --> 00:07:04,149 - So now you've introduced him into something 200 00:07:04,149 --> 00:07:07,018 that now it's taken a turn that you don't like, 201 00:07:07,018 --> 00:07:11,356 but you don't think that there's anyone in particular. 202 00:07:11,356 --> 00:07:12,824 - No. 203 00:07:12,824 --> 00:07:15,427 He's just very flirty out there, and he just-- 204 00:07:15,427 --> 00:07:17,062 he likes to be intimate. 205 00:07:17,062 --> 00:07:22,501 - Now, do you see women outside of him on your own? 206 00:07:22,501 --> 00:07:23,969 - No. 207 00:07:23,969 --> 00:07:27,372 - OK, so everything's always as a collective. 208 00:07:27,372 --> 00:07:29,908 - Yeah. - Got it, OK. 209 00:07:29,908 --> 00:07:32,911 So what is it that you would like for me to do? 210 00:07:32,911 --> 00:07:36,014 - I just want to see if he's actually 211 00:07:36,014 --> 00:07:39,684 out doing what I think he might be doing or not. 212 00:07:39,684 --> 00:07:43,321 I do want to work it out because we just have so much 213 00:07:43,321 --> 00:07:45,690 that we've built together. 214 00:07:45,690 --> 00:07:50,962 - If you want me to take this case, I will. 215 00:07:50,962 --> 00:07:56,334 The way the process works is, I get my investigation team 216 00:07:56,334 --> 00:07:59,137 to start surveilling Brandon. 217 00:07:59,137 --> 00:08:00,438 - OK. 218 00:08:00,438 --> 00:08:02,407 - And then, I just need you to act regular 219 00:08:02,407 --> 00:08:04,209 and let him do whatever he's doing. 220 00:08:04,209 --> 00:08:07,879 Allow my team to watch and see what's going on 221 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:10,315 so that we can give you some clarity and some truth. 222 00:08:10,315 --> 00:08:13,051 - OK. - OK? 223 00:08:13,051 --> 00:08:15,754 Now, appreciate you coming through. 224 00:08:15,754 --> 00:08:17,355 [Aitch's "Buss Down"] 225 00:08:17,355 --> 00:08:19,991 - ♪ Buss down, yeah, she get the buss down ♪ 226 00:08:19,991 --> 00:08:22,794 ♪ 10/10, man, I get a touchdown ♪ 227 00:08:24,362 --> 00:08:27,232 [tense music] 228 00:08:27,232 --> 00:08:31,336 ♪ ♪ 229 00:08:31,336 --> 00:08:34,406 - First day, surveillance. 230 00:08:34,406 --> 00:08:36,708 I've been following Brandon around all morning, 231 00:08:36,708 --> 00:08:39,177 and so far, not much has happened. 232 00:08:39,177 --> 00:08:45,784 ♪ ♪ 233 00:08:45,784 --> 00:08:49,254 Looks like he's going into this food court over here. 234 00:08:51,623 --> 00:08:53,859 OK, so he's pulling in this spot, 235 00:08:53,859 --> 00:08:57,128 so I'm gonna pull past him and find a parking spot, 236 00:08:57,128 --> 00:08:59,531 so I can really quick see where he goes. 237 00:08:59,531 --> 00:09:02,801 ♪ ♪ 238 00:09:02,801 --> 00:09:06,071 OK, he just walked in. 239 00:09:06,071 --> 00:09:09,975 I'm going to go in, and since I'm wearing denim, 240 00:09:09,975 --> 00:09:12,310 nothing better than my little denim hat. 241 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:16,348 This one has a camera, so I can do a surveillance 242 00:09:16,348 --> 00:09:19,718 and get the footage we need because no one suspects it. 243 00:09:19,718 --> 00:09:21,620 [chuckles] 244 00:09:22,354 --> 00:09:27,826 ♪ ♪ 245 00:09:59,791 --> 00:10:02,294 - They just look like friends, you know? 246 00:10:02,294 --> 00:10:07,432 ♪ ♪ 247 00:10:07,432 --> 00:10:10,201 Stand by, stand by. They're coming right now. 248 00:10:10,201 --> 00:10:12,304 Let me video this. 249 00:10:12,304 --> 00:10:15,974 ♪ ♪ 250 00:10:15,974 --> 00:10:19,978 You know, I mean, you can make a big deal of everything, 251 00:10:19,978 --> 00:10:22,647 but it kind of-- they were kind of chilling. 252 00:10:22,647 --> 00:10:24,683 I'm not gonna call this too much, 253 00:10:24,683 --> 00:10:26,318 but I'm gonna keep my eye on them. 254 00:10:26,318 --> 00:10:28,954 ♪ ♪ 255 00:10:30,356 --> 00:10:33,325 [tense hip-hop music] 256 00:10:33,325 --> 00:10:37,163 ♪ ♪ 257 00:10:37,163 --> 00:10:39,198 - We're at Brandon and Emily's house. 258 00:10:39,198 --> 00:10:41,433 I've been out here a couple hours. 259 00:10:41,433 --> 00:10:42,668 No movement. 260 00:10:42,668 --> 00:10:49,809 ♪ ♪ 261 00:10:51,043 --> 00:10:52,845 There he is. 262 00:10:52,845 --> 00:10:54,880 All right, let the games begin. 263 00:10:57,917 --> 00:10:59,852 I get so excited at this part. 264 00:10:59,852 --> 00:11:02,855 [dramatic music] 265 00:11:02,855 --> 00:11:06,358 ♪ ♪ 266 00:11:06,358 --> 00:11:08,427 [engine roars] 267 00:11:08,427 --> 00:11:15,367 ♪ ♪ 268 00:11:15,367 --> 00:11:17,536 Well, he just pulled in here. 269 00:11:17,536 --> 00:11:20,239 Let me just give it a minute. 270 00:11:20,239 --> 00:11:23,943 This is the editing studio I have in my notes. 271 00:11:24,810 --> 00:11:27,079 This is where he works. 272 00:11:27,079 --> 00:11:29,882 I'm gonna stay out here and assess. 273 00:11:29,882 --> 00:11:31,684 Patience is a virtue. 274 00:11:34,587 --> 00:11:36,322 [mysterious music] 275 00:11:36,322 --> 00:11:38,290 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. 276 00:11:38,290 --> 00:11:40,059 Who's this? 277 00:11:40,059 --> 00:11:43,596 Holy [bleep], that's the girl at the food truck. 278 00:11:43,596 --> 00:11:50,736 ♪ ♪ 279 00:11:52,371 --> 00:11:54,773 Oh, we have movement. 280 00:11:59,411 --> 00:12:00,880 OK, they're leaving. 281 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,882 I just got to get down a little bit. 282 00:12:04,650 --> 00:12:06,485 OK, here we go. 283 00:12:06,485 --> 00:12:09,488 [tense music] 284 00:12:09,488 --> 00:12:13,759 ♪ ♪ 285 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:17,496 All right, so he just pulled in to park. 286 00:12:17,496 --> 00:12:19,531 We're at a strip club. 287 00:12:19,531 --> 00:12:24,937 ♪ ♪ 288 00:12:24,937 --> 00:12:27,306 And there she is. 289 00:12:27,306 --> 00:12:29,909 ♪ ♪ 290 00:12:29,909 --> 00:12:33,412 Smile for the camera. 291 00:12:33,412 --> 00:12:35,814 And they're walking in. 292 00:12:35,814 --> 00:12:37,917 ♪ ♪ 293 00:12:37,917 --> 00:12:40,653 OK, so I've already put my camera here. 294 00:12:40,653 --> 00:12:42,588 Right here, guys. 295 00:12:42,588 --> 00:12:44,223 Hidden camera right there. 296 00:12:44,223 --> 00:12:46,158 The pin camera is great for this 297 00:12:46,158 --> 00:12:47,960 because it's very good for low light, 298 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,495 and you can't notice it. 299 00:12:49,495 --> 00:12:51,797 No one's gonna be looking at it. 300 00:12:51,797 --> 00:12:53,766 I'm gonna go in. 301 00:12:53,766 --> 00:12:56,702 [energetic hip-hop music] 302 00:12:56,702 --> 00:13:03,909 ♪ ♪ 303 00:13:04,576 --> 00:13:06,879 All right, they're just leaving to this parking lot, 304 00:13:06,879 --> 00:13:09,481 going to have a cigarette. 305 00:13:19,959 --> 00:13:21,393 - He's not--I'm not gonna lose him tonight. 306 00:13:21,393 --> 00:13:23,429 I'm telling you right fricking now. 307 00:13:23,429 --> 00:13:26,432 [dramatic music] 308 00:13:26,432 --> 00:13:33,339 ♪ ♪ 309 00:13:34,907 --> 00:13:37,109 Well, we're in a residential neighborhood, 310 00:13:37,109 --> 00:13:40,079 so they're going to someone's house. 311 00:13:40,079 --> 00:13:41,513 It looks like they're pulling in. 312 00:13:41,513 --> 00:13:44,249 I'm gonna pull right here, shut my lights off. 313 00:13:44,249 --> 00:13:47,853 That's got to be her house. I got to run this address. 314 00:13:48,787 --> 00:13:51,023 They shut off their lights. 315 00:13:51,023 --> 00:13:52,591 We all know what that means. 316 00:13:52,591 --> 00:13:59,765 ♪ ♪ 317 00:14:00,532 --> 00:14:03,402 - I hope you had your coffee this morning, Ken, 318 00:14:03,402 --> 00:14:05,637 because there's a lot to unpack here. 319 00:14:05,637 --> 00:14:07,072 - OK. 320 00:14:07,072 --> 00:14:10,109 - A young lady named Emily came into the office 321 00:14:10,109 --> 00:14:13,112 to discuss her relationship with her partner. 322 00:14:13,112 --> 00:14:15,714 Two years into the relationship, 323 00:14:15,714 --> 00:14:18,350 she introduced threesomes... 324 00:14:18,350 --> 00:14:19,718 - OK. 325 00:14:19,718 --> 00:14:22,588 - Into her relationship dynamic with Brandon, 326 00:14:22,588 --> 00:14:27,493 but she's the person who picks the young lady to participate. 327 00:14:27,493 --> 00:14:28,527 - OK. 328 00:14:28,527 --> 00:14:29,795 - I said, OK. 329 00:14:29,795 --> 00:14:31,663 Well now, here's the thing. 330 00:14:31,663 --> 00:14:33,332 That's called Pandora's box. 331 00:14:33,332 --> 00:14:34,633 [laughter] 332 00:14:34,633 --> 00:14:36,035 - Yeah, and when you open it... 333 00:14:36,035 --> 00:14:38,604 - And you opened it. - You're right. 334 00:14:38,604 --> 00:14:40,272 - Hi! - Hey. 335 00:14:40,272 --> 00:14:42,908 - How are you, Emily? - How are you? 336 00:14:42,908 --> 00:14:44,443 - Hello, how are you? - Hey, how are you? 337 00:14:44,443 --> 00:14:46,045 - Good to meet you. - This is Coach Ken. 338 00:14:46,045 --> 00:14:47,880 Have a seat over there for me, sweets. 339 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,116 You know, Coach Ken 340 00:14:51,116 --> 00:14:55,087 is a relationship expert 341 00:14:55,087 --> 00:14:58,157 and should you see anything 342 00:14:58,157 --> 00:15:00,492 that makes you feel some kind of way... 343 00:15:00,492 --> 00:15:02,027 - Yeah. 344 00:15:02,027 --> 00:15:04,263 - Ken is gonna help you kind of process those emotions. 345 00:15:04,263 --> 00:15:05,564 - All right. - OK? 346 00:15:05,564 --> 00:15:06,799 You're cool with that? 347 00:15:06,799 --> 00:15:08,267 - Yeah. - Oh! 348 00:15:08,267 --> 00:15:10,536 - Depending if we see something. 349 00:15:10,536 --> 00:15:12,771 - I'm just here to help. - No, I know. 350 00:15:12,771 --> 00:15:14,440 - I'm just here to help you. 351 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,243 - And I have him here only because watching this footage 352 00:15:18,243 --> 00:15:21,146 could change the dynamic of your relationship 353 00:15:21,146 --> 00:15:23,215 with Brandon going forward. 354 00:15:23,215 --> 00:15:27,052 - Yeah. - Do you want to see it or not? 355 00:15:27,052 --> 00:15:28,654 - Yeah, I want to see it. 356 00:15:28,654 --> 00:15:29,000 - All right, so here we go. 357 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,823 - All right, so here we go. 358 00:15:30,823 --> 00:15:33,258 We started this surveillance, 359 00:15:33,258 --> 00:15:37,896 and there is Brandon at this food truck. 360 00:15:47,339 --> 00:15:50,709 - Now, to me, when I watched it, flirty. 361 00:15:50,709 --> 00:15:52,478 - Yeah, but that's the first [bleep] he's gonna do 362 00:15:52,478 --> 00:15:53,679 when he goes over there. 363 00:15:53,679 --> 00:15:55,147 Like, order your food first. 364 00:16:03,088 --> 00:16:05,224 - Are you [bleep] serious? I know her. 365 00:16:05,224 --> 00:16:07,226 - You know who this young lady is. 366 00:16:07,226 --> 00:16:08,393 - That's supposed to be my friend. 367 00:16:08,393 --> 00:16:09,795 We knew each other for a long time. 368 00:16:09,795 --> 00:16:10,996 - Now, what's her name? 369 00:16:10,996 --> 00:16:12,631 - That's Jojo. - Jojo, OK. 370 00:16:12,631 --> 00:16:14,666 So you're saying they [bleep] or something, and that's it? 371 00:16:14,666 --> 00:16:17,970 I don't know if it was going on because if I allow you 372 00:16:17,970 --> 00:16:21,240 to, you know, have fun with this person that I'm close to, 373 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,842 I don't like that at all, period. 374 00:16:23,842 --> 00:16:28,180 - So what I'm gathering was, 375 00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:31,750 Jojo has been involved with you and Brandon. 376 00:16:31,750 --> 00:16:34,419 - Yeah, but I expect her-- like, out of all people, 377 00:16:34,419 --> 00:16:36,121 I expect her loyalty to stay with me... 378 00:16:36,121 --> 00:16:38,223 - Got it. - Because I knew her longer. 379 00:16:38,223 --> 00:16:40,259 Before I even met Brandon, we already was, 380 00:16:40,259 --> 00:16:42,661 you know, doing what we did. 381 00:16:42,661 --> 00:16:44,863 We were never in, like, a relationship. 382 00:16:44,863 --> 00:16:47,566 We would mess around, but that's still my friend. 383 00:16:47,566 --> 00:16:50,402 I knew her since we was in middle school. 384 00:16:50,402 --> 00:16:51,870 - OK. - Middle school, high school. 385 00:16:51,870 --> 00:16:53,705 Like, we knew each other-- you know, 386 00:16:53,705 --> 00:16:56,275 before we figured out what we liked, I knew her. 387 00:16:56,275 --> 00:16:58,243 I just feel like she really overstepped 388 00:16:58,243 --> 00:17:00,179 the boundary like I just-- 389 00:17:00,179 --> 00:17:01,780 I don't know. 390 00:17:01,780 --> 00:17:03,081 - Maybe that's why it shouldn't have been a friend. 391 00:17:03,081 --> 00:17:04,683 - I don't know. 392 00:17:04,683 --> 00:17:06,018 I just felt like it would be a little bit different. 393 00:17:06,018 --> 00:17:07,553 I felt like it would better. 394 00:17:07,553 --> 00:17:08,987 - Well, they did send a second clip, 395 00:17:08,987 --> 00:17:11,456 so let's take a look at that. 396 00:17:11,456 --> 00:17:13,325 We camped out. 397 00:17:13,325 --> 00:17:15,594 Caught him leaving in the morning. 398 00:17:15,594 --> 00:17:18,163 Continued to surveil. 399 00:17:18,163 --> 00:17:21,733 So this is where he works, correct? 400 00:17:23,101 --> 00:17:24,469 Emily? 401 00:17:24,469 --> 00:17:26,872 That's his studio, his place of business? 402 00:17:26,872 --> 00:17:28,373 - Yeah, I'm sorry. 403 00:17:28,373 --> 00:17:30,842 I'm just like--I'm just a little heated, like-- 404 00:17:30,842 --> 00:17:32,277 - Well, that same girl. 405 00:17:32,277 --> 00:17:33,645 - And what the [bleep] is she doing there, though? 406 00:17:33,645 --> 00:17:35,647 I didn't even know she knew where he worked at. 407 00:17:35,647 --> 00:17:38,283 - Well, as you can see, all day went by, 408 00:17:38,283 --> 00:17:40,252 and now they're coming out. 409 00:17:40,252 --> 00:17:42,120 - I don't know. Like, I just need a break. 410 00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:43,422 - You don't want to see the rest of it? 411 00:17:43,422 --> 00:17:46,258 - I don't--I just-- it just blows my mind. 412 00:17:46,258 --> 00:17:48,393 Like, why the [bleep] is she even over there? 413 00:17:48,393 --> 00:17:52,631 - Well, how are we gonna find out what's really happening 414 00:17:52,631 --> 00:17:55,200 if you don't want to see the rest of what's happening? 415 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,535 - You got to understand this. 416 00:17:56,535 --> 00:17:58,370 Like, I'm trying-- I'm giving this man leeway 417 00:17:58,370 --> 00:17:59,571 to do what you got to do, and you're gonna-- 418 00:17:59,571 --> 00:18:01,473 he's gonna go over there with my friend, 419 00:18:01,473 --> 00:18:02,841 and I'm home with the kids. 420 00:18:02,841 --> 00:18:04,142 I'm sorry. 421 00:18:04,142 --> 00:18:05,611 I know you're just trying to do your job, 422 00:18:05,611 --> 00:18:07,145 but I don't know what the [bleep] y'all expect from me. 423 00:18:07,145 --> 00:18:10,148 [dramatic music] 424 00:18:10,148 --> 00:18:11,683 ♪ ♪ 425 00:18:13,786 --> 00:18:15,487 - I'm giving this man leeway to do what you got to do, 426 00:18:15,487 --> 00:18:17,823 and you gonna--he's gonna go over there with my friend, 427 00:18:17,823 --> 00:18:19,091 and I'm home with the kids. 428 00:18:19,091 --> 00:18:20,326 I'm sorry. 429 00:18:20,326 --> 00:18:21,794 I know you're just trying to do your job, 430 00:18:21,794 --> 00:18:23,629 but I don't know what the [bleep] y'all expect from me. 431 00:18:23,629 --> 00:18:25,264 If y'all's was to do some [bleep] like this, 432 00:18:25,264 --> 00:18:26,432 you'd probably be on 100 too. 433 00:18:26,432 --> 00:18:28,200 - This is true. This is true. 434 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,236 - You owe it to yourself to see this through. 435 00:18:31,236 --> 00:18:32,705 [soft music] 436 00:18:32,705 --> 00:18:35,207 - Well, come sit down, and watch the rest of it 437 00:18:35,207 --> 00:18:37,409 because I think it's valuable for you 438 00:18:37,409 --> 00:18:43,349 to see everything that happened 439 00:18:43,349 --> 00:18:46,218 so that we can figure out how to proceed from here. 440 00:18:46,218 --> 00:18:47,820 [energetic hip-hop music] 441 00:18:47,820 --> 00:18:49,855 They ended up at a strip club. 442 00:18:49,855 --> 00:18:51,357 - Wow. 443 00:18:51,357 --> 00:18:54,627 - Doing the whole dance thing, and I think 444 00:18:54,627 --> 00:18:57,262 they got turned on a little bit 445 00:18:57,262 --> 00:19:01,300 because they started getting it popping in the club. 446 00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:02,901 - So basically, I'm the nanny, 447 00:19:02,901 --> 00:19:04,770 and I got to stay home and be with the kids. 448 00:19:04,770 --> 00:19:06,138 And he get to go out, and have fun, 449 00:19:06,138 --> 00:19:07,873 and [bleep] whoever he want to [bleep] with? 450 00:19:07,873 --> 00:19:09,975 Like... 451 00:19:09,975 --> 00:19:12,978 [tense music] 452 00:19:12,978 --> 00:19:15,214 ♪ ♪ 453 00:19:20,486 --> 00:19:22,755 - But I wanted to run it back for you. 454 00:19:22,755 --> 00:19:24,723 The first thing is, 455 00:19:24,723 --> 00:19:26,291 what you set up, 456 00:19:26,291 --> 00:19:29,595 he's now trying to have that with this young lady. 457 00:19:29,595 --> 00:19:31,897 They should have brought somebody home together, 458 00:19:31,897 --> 00:19:33,232 and now... 459 00:19:39,705 --> 00:19:41,440 - A job? Who he's talking about, me? 460 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,474 - Yeah. 461 00:19:44,877 --> 00:19:46,779 - Who the [bleep]--y'all. 462 00:19:52,785 --> 00:19:54,353 [dramatic music] 463 00:19:54,353 --> 00:19:56,321 - So what he think he gon' do? He gon' leave? 464 00:19:56,321 --> 00:19:57,489 I'ma be by myself in the crib, 465 00:19:57,489 --> 00:19:59,425 and he gon' start a new life with her? 466 00:19:59,425 --> 00:20:01,360 It's just hard to process everything 467 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:02,695 that's going on because it's like, 468 00:20:02,695 --> 00:20:05,597 I have a history with both of them. 469 00:20:05,597 --> 00:20:09,001 I would expect more from her than to be creeping with him. 470 00:20:09,001 --> 00:20:13,338 - My question is, are you more upset because it's her, 471 00:20:13,338 --> 00:20:16,809 someone that you brought into you guys' circle, 472 00:20:16,809 --> 00:20:19,978 or is it because he's seeing someone else? 473 00:20:19,978 --> 00:20:22,414 - I'm just upset about it overall. 474 00:20:22,414 --> 00:20:24,116 Like, I'm just upset about everything. 475 00:20:24,116 --> 00:20:29,655 - OK, well, then I'm going to show you the next clip. 476 00:20:29,655 --> 00:20:36,595 ♪ ♪ 477 00:20:44,903 --> 00:20:47,406 Is that you, Emily? 478 00:20:47,406 --> 00:20:49,108 - But why are we following me when we're supposed 479 00:20:49,108 --> 00:20:51,110 to be seeing what he's doing? 480 00:20:55,981 --> 00:20:57,483 So you see why I'm mad? 481 00:20:57,483 --> 00:21:00,486 - No, I don't. I know why I'm mad. 482 00:21:00,486 --> 00:21:03,355 When you came in here, you said you were bothered 483 00:21:03,355 --> 00:21:05,057 because you felt like he was stepping 484 00:21:05,057 --> 00:21:06,225 outside of the relationship. 485 00:21:06,225 --> 00:21:07,426 Have you ever cheated? 486 00:21:07,426 --> 00:21:08,827 Have you ever done anything? 487 00:21:08,827 --> 00:21:10,829 You said no, but you was doing the same thing. 488 00:21:10,829 --> 00:21:13,098 - But it's a girl. It's not like I'm [bleep] guys. 489 00:21:13,098 --> 00:21:14,733 - It does not matter. 490 00:21:14,733 --> 00:21:16,668 So you've been involved with her. 491 00:21:16,668 --> 00:21:18,604 Then you just wanted to be able to have 492 00:21:18,604 --> 00:21:20,672 both relationships at the same time. 493 00:21:20,672 --> 00:21:23,542 So now you introduce her into your situation 494 00:21:23,542 --> 00:21:26,645 with Brandon so that you technically can have your cake 495 00:21:26,645 --> 00:21:28,947 and eat it too, and now you mad... 496 00:21:28,947 --> 00:21:30,849 - We both want the cake then because-- 497 00:21:30,849 --> 00:21:33,452 - That he done ate the whole damn cake without you. 498 00:21:34,486 --> 00:21:36,355 - Can I ask you a question? 499 00:21:36,355 --> 00:21:38,724 You created rules in the relationship, correct? 500 00:21:38,724 --> 00:21:39,925 - Yes. 501 00:21:39,925 --> 00:21:41,760 - Are you both outside of the rules? 502 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,595 ♪ ♪ 503 00:21:43,595 --> 00:21:45,864 - Well, it's different because we have boundaries. 504 00:21:45,864 --> 00:21:48,133 He broke the boundaries, and he take it too far, 505 00:21:48,133 --> 00:21:50,369 so I don't know how y'all expect me to go about [bleep] 506 00:21:50,369 --> 00:21:51,770 when he acts like that. 507 00:21:51,770 --> 00:21:54,673 - I expect you to accept 508 00:21:54,673 --> 00:21:57,075 the scenario that you've created. 509 00:21:57,075 --> 00:21:59,077 - I didn't create-- how did I create the scenario? 510 00:21:59,077 --> 00:22:01,580 - Because the man didn't want no other [bleep], 511 00:22:01,580 --> 00:22:04,883 and you said, I want some [bleep] though! 512 00:22:04,883 --> 00:22:06,185 - He didn't say-- 513 00:22:06,185 --> 00:22:08,353 - So I'ma introduce this lifestyle 514 00:22:08,353 --> 00:22:09,788 into our relationship. 515 00:22:09,788 --> 00:22:11,423 - He didn't say it was a problem though. 516 00:22:11,423 --> 00:22:13,458 - What man is? 517 00:22:13,458 --> 00:22:16,395 ♪ ♪ 518 00:22:16,395 --> 00:22:18,397 - So let me tell you what y'all have done. 519 00:22:18,397 --> 00:22:20,399 In a relationship, we set the rules, 520 00:22:20,399 --> 00:22:23,001 and when people go outside of the rules, 521 00:22:23,001 --> 00:22:24,803 then they start breezing. 522 00:22:24,803 --> 00:22:26,438 Both of you have-- 523 00:22:26,438 --> 00:22:29,074 are not abiding by the rules that you set. 524 00:22:29,074 --> 00:22:31,076 - I guess that hurts more from her than they do from him 525 00:22:31,076 --> 00:22:32,277 because it's like, yo. 526 00:22:32,277 --> 00:22:35,480 You know me from a kid, OK? 527 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,617 So I wouldn't expect her to dog me out like that. 528 00:22:39,284 --> 00:22:41,653 - There are three types of connection that people have. 529 00:22:41,653 --> 00:22:43,055 There's the physical connection. 530 00:22:43,055 --> 00:22:44,356 There's the mental connection, 531 00:22:44,356 --> 00:22:45,724 and there's the emotional connection. 532 00:22:45,724 --> 00:22:48,493 And what people try to do is, they think that, 533 00:22:48,493 --> 00:22:50,863 once I introduce the physical connection, 534 00:22:50,863 --> 00:22:53,432 then either the mental or the emotional connection 535 00:22:53,432 --> 00:22:56,602 won't be enacted because it's just physical. 536 00:22:56,602 --> 00:23:00,072 And so now that we're connected physically many times, 537 00:23:00,072 --> 00:23:03,575 the emotional part of us kicks in as a result 538 00:23:03,575 --> 00:23:05,544 of this physical connection we have, 539 00:23:05,544 --> 00:23:08,180 now, which people try to separate it all the time. 540 00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:11,783 It doesn't always work, but what happens in this case 541 00:23:11,783 --> 00:23:12,000 is you introduced the physical connection, 542 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,319 is you introduced the physical connection, 543 00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:17,823 which led to the emotional connection. 544 00:23:17,823 --> 00:23:19,324 - Why it has to be her that he's making 545 00:23:19,324 --> 00:23:20,359 that connection with? 546 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,027 - Do you care about Jojo? 547 00:23:22,027 --> 00:23:24,863 - I care about her, yeah, but I'm just--I don't know. 548 00:23:24,863 --> 00:23:26,331 I just feel like... 549 00:23:26,331 --> 00:23:29,368 - Is Jojo somebody that you would say 550 00:23:29,368 --> 00:23:32,304 to yourself, like, I love her? 551 00:23:32,304 --> 00:23:34,873 - I don't know. 552 00:23:34,873 --> 00:23:36,942 - Do you want a relationship with Jojo? 553 00:23:36,942 --> 00:23:38,911 - They want a relationship with each other. 554 00:23:38,911 --> 00:23:40,345 - I didn't ask you that. 555 00:23:40,345 --> 00:23:42,915 Do you want a relationship with Jojo? 556 00:23:42,915 --> 00:23:44,917 ♪ ♪ 557 00:23:44,917 --> 00:23:46,652 - I don't know what I want right now. 558 00:23:46,652 --> 00:23:47,986 I just--I don't know. 559 00:23:47,986 --> 00:23:49,388 - It makes sense. 560 00:23:49,388 --> 00:23:50,789 - So where do we go from here? 561 00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:52,591 What is it that you want to do? 562 00:23:52,591 --> 00:23:55,894 Because the way we operate around here is, 563 00:23:55,894 --> 00:23:58,630 you can sit down and have a conversation with Jojo, 564 00:23:58,630 --> 00:24:01,466 and then you guys can both go together 565 00:24:01,466 --> 00:24:03,502 and speak with Brandon. 566 00:24:03,502 --> 00:24:07,239 Or you can wait until he's with Jojo 567 00:24:07,239 --> 00:24:10,776 and approach them together by catching them in the act, 568 00:24:10,776 --> 00:24:14,579 which is called a takedown. 569 00:24:14,579 --> 00:24:17,316 - We're gonna do a takedown because they both 570 00:24:17,316 --> 00:24:18,784 being sneaky behind my back. 571 00:24:18,784 --> 00:24:21,119 - OK, you sure? - Yeah, I'm sure. 572 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,455 - OK? All right. 573 00:24:23,455 --> 00:24:25,390 Now, thank you for coming in. 574 00:24:25,390 --> 00:24:26,959 - Thanks for having me. 575 00:24:26,959 --> 00:24:28,293 - This is the way. 576 00:24:28,293 --> 00:24:29,494 - I appreciate you. - Thank you. 577 00:24:29,494 --> 00:24:31,029 - I'ma call you. 578 00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:33,865 ♪ ♪ 579 00:24:33,865 --> 00:24:36,435 - People create the fantasy, right? 580 00:24:36,435 --> 00:24:38,370 You can manage the game, 581 00:24:38,370 --> 00:24:40,305 but you can't manage the players. 582 00:24:40,305 --> 00:24:43,909 ♪ ♪ 583 00:24:46,045 --> 00:24:49,615 - ♪ I'm gonna hold you down, I'm gonna hold it down ♪ 584 00:24:49,615 --> 00:24:51,784 ♪ I'm gonna hold it down for my city ♪ 585 00:24:51,784 --> 00:24:53,953 - You ready to roll? - I am. 586 00:24:53,953 --> 00:24:55,421 Thank you. 587 00:24:55,421 --> 00:24:57,456 - ♪ Run it ♪ 588 00:24:57,456 --> 00:24:59,358 - So I'm gonna call Emily. 589 00:24:59,358 --> 00:25:02,028 [phone line trilling] 590 00:25:02,028 --> 00:25:03,396 - Hello? 591 00:25:03,396 --> 00:25:05,898 - Hi, Emily. It's Tami and Ken. 592 00:25:05,898 --> 00:25:06,933 How are you? 593 00:25:06,933 --> 00:25:08,167 - I'm great. 594 00:25:08,167 --> 00:25:11,838 - My investigation team has found out 595 00:25:11,838 --> 00:25:16,576 that Jojo and Brandon are together at Jojo's house. 596 00:25:16,576 --> 00:25:17,677 - Well, OK. 597 00:25:17,677 --> 00:25:19,812 - I think the best course of action 598 00:25:19,812 --> 00:25:21,747 is that you meet us there. 599 00:25:21,747 --> 00:25:23,416 - We could do that. I'll meet you over there. 600 00:25:23,416 --> 00:25:24,917 - Now, here's the thing, Emily. 601 00:25:24,917 --> 00:25:26,953 You cannot go up into people's house. 602 00:25:26,953 --> 00:25:28,187 - All right. 603 00:25:28,187 --> 00:25:30,256 - You've got to contain your emotions 604 00:25:30,256 --> 00:25:33,092 until Ken and I get there so that we can explain 605 00:25:33,092 --> 00:25:35,061 the next steps to you. 606 00:25:35,061 --> 00:25:37,830 Can you promise me that? 607 00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:38,698 - Yeah. 608 00:25:38,698 --> 00:25:40,333 - OK, we're on the way. 609 00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:41,968 I'll see you shortly. 610 00:25:41,968 --> 00:25:44,237 - All right, see you soon. - OK, bye-bye. 611 00:25:44,237 --> 00:25:45,571 Sounded a little shaky. 612 00:25:45,571 --> 00:25:47,139 - [laughing] It sounded a lot of shaky. 613 00:25:47,139 --> 00:25:48,741 [tense music] 614 00:25:48,741 --> 00:25:51,477 How do you think she is emotionally? 615 00:25:51,477 --> 00:25:53,379 - You know, I couldn't get a gauge on it. 616 00:25:53,379 --> 00:25:54,814 - It was tough. 617 00:25:54,814 --> 00:25:57,450 I mean, when we began talking about Brandon, 618 00:25:57,450 --> 00:25:58,818 then we started talking about Jojo, 619 00:25:58,818 --> 00:26:02,855 if you noticed, her energy just shifted from, 620 00:26:02,855 --> 00:26:06,559 I'm mad with Brandon, I'm hurt by Jojo. 621 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:08,594 - By Jojo, mm-hmm. 622 00:26:08,594 --> 00:26:10,229 - Comes from two different places. 623 00:26:10,229 --> 00:26:11,964 - Yes, you're absolutely right. 624 00:26:11,964 --> 00:26:14,667 ♪ ♪ 625 00:26:14,667 --> 00:26:16,469 - Oh, here she is. 626 00:26:16,469 --> 00:26:18,037 - All right. 627 00:26:18,037 --> 00:26:19,972 ♪ ♪ 628 00:26:19,972 --> 00:26:21,407 - Hi. 629 00:26:21,407 --> 00:26:23,643 - Hey. - How are you? 630 00:26:24,377 --> 00:26:26,078 - I don't know. 631 00:26:26,078 --> 00:26:28,447 I feel just a mixture of emotions. 632 00:26:28,447 --> 00:26:30,683 - Well, let's calm your heart down. 633 00:26:30,683 --> 00:26:34,120 I have a decoy setup, and that decoy 634 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:36,489 is gonna act like they're delivering flowers. 635 00:26:36,489 --> 00:26:37,757 - OK. 636 00:26:37,757 --> 00:26:41,494 - You are then going to creep up, 637 00:26:41,494 --> 00:26:43,195 and then when they open the door 638 00:26:43,195 --> 00:26:44,630 to receive the flowers, 639 00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:47,533 that's when you can go in and address them both 640 00:26:47,533 --> 00:26:48,968 at the same time. 641 00:26:48,968 --> 00:26:50,970 We're gonna be watching every step of the way. 642 00:26:50,970 --> 00:26:52,471 - OK. 643 00:26:52,471 --> 00:26:54,473 - And when we feel like we should potentially step in, 644 00:26:54,473 --> 00:26:56,075 we will, OK? 645 00:26:56,075 --> 00:26:57,076 - OK. - Yeah. 646 00:26:57,076 --> 00:26:58,577 Ken will let you out and then-- 647 00:26:58,577 --> 00:26:59,979 - Let me go--all right. 648 00:26:59,979 --> 00:27:01,814 - You want to see if you can see them, Ken? 649 00:27:01,814 --> 00:27:04,517 So remember, once they open the door, 650 00:27:04,517 --> 00:27:05,551 then you can reveal yourself. 651 00:27:05,551 --> 00:27:07,019 - All right. 652 00:27:07,019 --> 00:27:08,321 ♪ ♪ 653 00:27:08,321 --> 00:27:10,056 - [sighs] 654 00:27:10,056 --> 00:27:13,559 ♪ ♪ 655 00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:16,329 - OK. - She's ready to get in there. 656 00:27:16,329 --> 00:27:21,667 ♪ ♪ 657 00:27:21,667 --> 00:27:23,269 - Oh! - Oh, Lord, oh, Lord. 658 00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:24,570 Oh, Lord, oh, Lord, oh, Lord! 659 00:27:24,570 --> 00:27:26,939 - [shouting] Who was that for? 660 00:27:26,939 --> 00:27:29,308 Get outta here! - Why the [bleep]-- 661 00:27:29,308 --> 00:27:31,777 - OK, this ain't going the way we thought it was gonna go. 662 00:27:31,777 --> 00:27:34,146 - What the [bleep] wrong? - What the [bleep] you want? 663 00:27:34,146 --> 00:27:35,715 - You were the one who put the [bleep] cameras 664 00:27:35,715 --> 00:27:36,983 in the goddamn house. 665 00:27:36,983 --> 00:27:38,517 - Who the [bleep] you think you are? 666 00:27:38,517 --> 00:27:41,120 - Who the [bleep] are these [bleep] in my [bleep] house? 667 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,489 - OK, Emily, Emily! 668 00:27:43,489 --> 00:27:45,324 That is not what we discussed. 669 00:27:45,324 --> 00:27:47,259 - What is going on? - Hello. 670 00:27:47,259 --> 00:27:49,195 Brandon, Jojo. 671 00:27:49,195 --> 00:27:52,598 My name is Tami Roman, and you guys are on a show 672 00:27:52,598 --> 00:27:55,334 called "Caught In The Act: Unfaithful." 673 00:27:55,334 --> 00:27:57,737 - Emily, what is going on, bro? 674 00:27:57,737 --> 00:27:59,238 - You're slime ball ass [bleep]. 675 00:27:59,238 --> 00:28:00,840 How the [bleep] you gon' leave and be with this bitch? 676 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,641 - Let me explain to them what's going on. 677 00:28:02,641 --> 00:28:04,310 - I'm here chilling. This is crazy. 678 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:05,878 Like, y'all got cameras on me and [bleep], 679 00:28:05,878 --> 00:28:07,113 and I don't even know what the [bleep] is going on. 680 00:28:07,113 --> 00:28:08,347 - Get up out of here with [bleep]! 681 00:28:08,347 --> 00:28:09,782 - You triggered my PTSD in this bitch. 682 00:28:09,782 --> 00:28:10,950 I don't know what-- - Let me talk to y'all. 683 00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:14,253 So what happened was, Emily came to me 684 00:28:14,253 --> 00:28:16,722 because she felt like there may be something 685 00:28:16,722 --> 00:28:19,658 going on in your relationship. 686 00:28:19,658 --> 00:28:22,128 So we surveilled you, 687 00:28:22,128 --> 00:28:25,531 only out that you are in a relationship, 688 00:28:25,531 --> 00:28:28,067 who we found out to be Jojo. 689 00:28:28,067 --> 00:28:30,302 - OK, but Emily invited me into this relationship. 690 00:28:30,302 --> 00:28:32,505 So if she really want to get to it-- 691 00:28:32,505 --> 00:28:34,807 - You [bleep] with me! - We can talk about it then. 692 00:28:34,807 --> 00:28:35,975 - You [bleep] with me! 693 00:28:35,975 --> 00:28:37,710 - Yes, and I [bleep] with both of you, 694 00:28:37,710 --> 00:28:38,878 so what the [bleep] you mad about, bitch? 695 00:28:38,878 --> 00:28:40,646 - What is she talking about now? 696 00:28:40,646 --> 00:28:44,116 [dramatic music] 697 00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:47,612 [tense music] 698 00:28:47,612 --> 00:28:50,482 - Emily came to me because she felt 699 00:28:50,482 --> 00:28:54,586 like there may be something going on in your relationship. 700 00:28:54,586 --> 00:28:58,490 So we surveilled you, only to find out 701 00:28:58,490 --> 00:29:00,392 that you are in a relationship, 702 00:29:00,392 --> 00:29:03,028 who we found out to be Jojo. 703 00:29:03,028 --> 00:29:04,496 - But Emily invited me into this relationship. 704 00:29:04,496 --> 00:29:06,998 - You [bleep] with me! Yo, you were [bleep] with me! 705 00:29:06,998 --> 00:29:08,333 - Yes, I'm [bleep] both you! 706 00:29:08,333 --> 00:29:09,868 So what the [bleep] you mad about, bitch? 707 00:29:09,868 --> 00:29:11,336 - Bitch, I'll beat your ass. 708 00:29:11,336 --> 00:29:12,704 - Why are you mad about if I'm [bleep] both of you? 709 00:29:12,704 --> 00:29:14,372 You're hiding it too. 710 00:29:14,372 --> 00:29:16,041 You lying to him the same way he lying to you. 711 00:29:16,041 --> 00:29:17,509 - What is she talking about now? 712 00:29:17,509 --> 00:29:19,611 - [bleep], come home and take care of your kid, bitch. 713 00:29:19,611 --> 00:29:20,912 - Let's sit down over here. 714 00:29:20,912 --> 00:29:22,313 - My kid's got every mother[bleep] thing. 715 00:29:22,313 --> 00:29:24,082 My kid's been in chinchilla since they was five. 716 00:29:24,082 --> 00:29:25,250 - Oh, I'm home [bleep], so what I'm supposed to be 717 00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:26,584 the babysitter while you get to do 718 00:29:26,584 --> 00:29:27,719 whatever the [bleep] you want? 719 00:29:27,719 --> 00:29:28,753 - They could have had you, bitch! 720 00:29:28,753 --> 00:29:30,155 You were just in my house-- 721 00:29:30,155 --> 00:29:31,689 - With all due respect, who the [bleep] is you? 722 00:29:31,689 --> 00:29:33,091 - I work with Tami. 723 00:29:33,091 --> 00:29:34,592 I'm the relationship coach, and we help people. 724 00:29:34,592 --> 00:29:36,094 - How is this helping, my [bleep]? 725 00:29:36,094 --> 00:29:37,762 This is a crazy way to do that. - I get it. 726 00:29:37,762 --> 00:29:39,064 - Homie, I'm a street [bleep]. 727 00:29:39,064 --> 00:29:40,198 You can't just run up in my [bleep] house. 728 00:29:40,198 --> 00:29:41,566 That's my [bleep]. - I get that. 729 00:29:41,566 --> 00:29:42,901 - Jojo, you have a seat right here so that we 730 00:29:42,901 --> 00:29:44,436 can have this conversation. 731 00:29:44,436 --> 00:29:46,004 Brandon, come over here, baby. 732 00:29:46,004 --> 00:29:48,106 - All right, all right. 733 00:29:48,106 --> 00:29:51,576 - Brandon, you guys had rules. 734 00:29:51,576 --> 00:29:54,179 You stepped outside of those rules. 735 00:29:54,179 --> 00:29:56,714 - That's a fact. - She wants to know why. 736 00:29:56,714 --> 00:29:58,116 - Here's the thing, right? 737 00:29:58,116 --> 00:30:01,252 You know, six years, a lot of things change. 738 00:30:01,252 --> 00:30:03,621 Things you agree on when you're 22 years old 739 00:30:03,621 --> 00:30:04,756 is not the same [bleep]. 740 00:30:04,756 --> 00:30:06,424 - So you should've cut it off. 741 00:30:06,424 --> 00:30:08,326 - Why didn't you have a conversation with her 742 00:30:08,326 --> 00:30:10,962 so that you guys could make adjustments? 743 00:30:10,962 --> 00:30:12,764 - Me trying to have the conversation, 744 00:30:12,764 --> 00:30:13,998 this is where it leads to. 745 00:30:13,998 --> 00:30:16,935 You got to give me time to be able 746 00:30:16,935 --> 00:30:18,770 to express or show my actions. 747 00:30:18,770 --> 00:30:19,938 Like, this was a conversation 748 00:30:19,938 --> 00:30:20,905 I was getting ready to have with her. 749 00:30:20,905 --> 00:30:22,140 - You full of [bleep]. 750 00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:23,475 You full of [bleep] because I told you 751 00:30:23,475 --> 00:30:24,609 we should've had this conversation with her 752 00:30:24,609 --> 00:30:25,710 a long [bleep] time ago. 753 00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:26,911 And you're the one who kept saying, 754 00:30:26,911 --> 00:30:28,146 let's wait, let's wait, let's wait. 755 00:30:28,146 --> 00:30:29,714 - Because look how it's [bleep] going! 756 00:30:29,714 --> 00:30:31,382 - Well, I'm going about it this way 'cause you keep lying! 757 00:30:31,382 --> 00:30:32,717 It's not just her. 758 00:30:32,717 --> 00:30:34,252 - I'm only speaking to Tami from here on out. 759 00:30:34,252 --> 00:30:35,420 - We ain't doing that. It's not gonna go nowhere. 760 00:30:35,420 --> 00:30:36,955 This conversation not gonna go nowhere 761 00:30:36,955 --> 00:30:38,289 cause you see what I'm saying, he thinks it's a joke. 762 00:30:38,289 --> 00:30:39,691 It's not a joke. 763 00:30:39,691 --> 00:30:41,159 - No, I don't think he's joking. 764 00:30:41,159 --> 00:30:44,262 If you were going to step outside of your arrangement, 765 00:30:44,262 --> 00:30:47,198 why do it with someone who's her close friend? 766 00:30:47,198 --> 00:30:49,033 - This is where things went wrong. 767 00:30:49,033 --> 00:30:50,835 You can do whatever the [bleep] you want to do. 768 00:30:50,835 --> 00:30:52,337 You can talk to girls. 769 00:30:52,337 --> 00:30:54,973 You can go in any woman's DM that you want to be in. 770 00:30:54,973 --> 00:30:57,976 She gets to explore all of her desires. 771 00:30:57,976 --> 00:30:59,711 - We agreed to that though. - Well, wait. 772 00:30:59,711 --> 00:31:01,045 Let him finish. - This is real. 773 00:31:01,045 --> 00:31:02,046 - So that you can hear. - This is real. 774 00:31:02,046 --> 00:31:03,414 - Go ahead. - Continue. 775 00:31:03,414 --> 00:31:05,016 - When we first got into this relationship, 776 00:31:05,016 --> 00:31:06,618 I said, do you think that you're gonna go the rest 777 00:31:06,618 --> 00:31:08,153 of your life without sleeping with another woman? 778 00:31:08,153 --> 00:31:11,256 She said no, so I said, boom, I'm with it then, 779 00:31:11,256 --> 00:31:12,724 if that's what you feel you got to do 780 00:31:12,724 --> 00:31:14,292 because for something to work long term, 781 00:31:14,292 --> 00:31:15,927 you've got to be able to be yourself. 782 00:31:15,927 --> 00:31:18,096 - Let me ask you a question. Are you in love with her? 783 00:31:18,096 --> 00:31:19,831 Period. 784 00:31:19,831 --> 00:31:22,200 - In love, no, I love her. 785 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,701 - Tell her how you say you in love with me 786 00:31:23,701 --> 00:31:25,103 and you want to be with me. 787 00:31:25,103 --> 00:31:27,438 - What I said was, if we bring the truth to her, 788 00:31:27,438 --> 00:31:30,475 and she's not with it that, yes, if we split up, 789 00:31:30,475 --> 00:31:33,278 I can see a possibility of a future with you. 790 00:31:33,278 --> 00:31:35,346 Did I not? 791 00:31:35,346 --> 00:31:37,282 - That's not what you said. - Keep it a hund-- 792 00:31:37,282 --> 00:31:38,816 - Listen, let me ask you something. 793 00:31:38,816 --> 00:31:40,952 So if I would have went up to you and I would have said, 794 00:31:40,952 --> 00:31:42,887 "Yo, are you [bleep] my friend?" 795 00:31:42,887 --> 00:31:44,322 You was gonna tell me truth? 796 00:31:44,322 --> 00:31:45,690 - I [bleep] her with you. 797 00:31:45,690 --> 00:31:47,158 The problem is, I [bleep] her without you too. 798 00:31:47,158 --> 00:31:49,194 You want the truth? That's the [bleep] truth. 799 00:31:49,194 --> 00:31:51,996 The only thing that I did wrong was, 800 00:31:51,996 --> 00:31:54,265 I didn't go about it by just being a hundred 801 00:31:54,265 --> 00:31:56,067 because I'm trying to protect my [bleep] feelings. 802 00:31:56,067 --> 00:31:58,169 - The same way you come over here 803 00:31:58,169 --> 00:31:59,404 and you hiding behind her back, 804 00:31:59,404 --> 00:32:00,738 she's doing the same [bleep] to you. 805 00:32:00,738 --> 00:32:02,507 - My [bleep] point. 806 00:32:02,507 --> 00:32:04,008 - [bleep] this [bleep], bro. 807 00:32:04,008 --> 00:32:05,810 - I have to agree with you on that. 808 00:32:05,810 --> 00:32:07,378 When you introduce something like that 809 00:32:07,378 --> 00:32:09,647 into your relationship, you can't manage 810 00:32:09,647 --> 00:32:12,450 how somebody is gonna maneuver within the scenario 811 00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:13,918 that you set up. 812 00:32:13,918 --> 00:32:17,021 - Where are you? Hey, I know you're upset. 813 00:32:17,021 --> 00:32:19,090 What are you feeling right now? 814 00:32:19,090 --> 00:32:20,959 - [crying] I'm disappointed. 815 00:32:20,959 --> 00:32:23,795 - Does she have a reason to be upset in your eyes? 816 00:32:23,795 --> 00:32:26,664 - Yeah, I know she's mad at me right now. 817 00:32:26,664 --> 00:32:30,602 I mean, I've known her since we was little, so... 818 00:32:30,602 --> 00:32:32,237 We never even argued before. 819 00:32:32,237 --> 00:32:34,305 - And that's why you're hurt? 820 00:32:34,305 --> 00:32:35,974 - Yeah. 821 00:32:35,974 --> 00:32:37,609 And now I'ma [bleep] lose my friend 822 00:32:37,609 --> 00:32:40,144 over this [bleep] bozo. 823 00:32:40,144 --> 00:32:43,281 - So you still have love for Emily? 824 00:32:43,281 --> 00:32:45,083 - I always will. 825 00:32:45,083 --> 00:32:47,452 - When she came into the office, 826 00:32:47,452 --> 00:32:49,254 I did say to her, 827 00:32:49,254 --> 00:32:52,824 you introduced something, a la Pandora's box. 828 00:32:52,824 --> 00:32:54,125 - Mm-hmm. 829 00:32:54,125 --> 00:32:56,928 - And now you're not happy with the outcome. 830 00:32:56,928 --> 00:32:58,663 We surveilled you. 831 00:32:58,663 --> 00:33:03,935 We saw you with Jojo, but then, much to my surprise, 832 00:33:03,935 --> 00:33:06,638 we saw her with Jojo. 833 00:33:06,638 --> 00:33:08,473 ♪ ♪ 834 00:33:08,473 --> 00:33:11,476 - I want you tell her. 835 00:33:11,476 --> 00:33:17,849 - So my question becomes, any man that likes vagina... 836 00:33:17,849 --> 00:33:19,584 - I love it. 837 00:33:19,584 --> 00:33:22,387 - OK, is gonna take the person up on that offer. 838 00:33:22,387 --> 00:33:24,188 - Mm-hmm. - Go ahead and sit down. 839 00:33:24,188 --> 00:33:27,425 - But why mess with Jojo? 840 00:33:27,425 --> 00:33:30,428 - Because we already have a bond, you understand? 841 00:33:30,428 --> 00:33:31,829 - Where's Emily? 842 00:33:31,829 --> 00:33:33,931 - And something that started with the three of us 843 00:33:33,931 --> 00:33:35,933 was able to stay less complicated 844 00:33:35,933 --> 00:33:37,702 between the two of us. 845 00:33:37,702 --> 00:33:39,270 - I want you to talk to Jojo. 846 00:33:39,270 --> 00:33:41,939 Would you listen to what she has to say? 847 00:33:41,939 --> 00:33:43,408 - As long as we're gonna talk. 848 00:33:43,408 --> 00:33:44,000 I'm not gonna sit there and argue with her, I'm not. 849 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,943 I'm not gonna sit there and argue with her, I'm not. 850 00:33:45,943 --> 00:33:47,312 - She doesn't want to argue with you. 851 00:33:47,312 --> 00:33:48,713 - She should have said something 852 00:33:48,713 --> 00:33:50,615 because right now, I can't even tell if you care 853 00:33:50,615 --> 00:33:51,949 or are you being spiteful. 854 00:33:51,949 --> 00:33:53,618 Do you like him? Are you being spiteful? 855 00:33:53,618 --> 00:33:55,019 Like, what are you doing? 856 00:33:55,019 --> 00:33:56,154 I don't know what her motives is, 857 00:33:56,154 --> 00:33:57,488 or are you really the same person? 858 00:33:57,488 --> 00:33:58,890 It's just-- and then she sat there 859 00:33:58,890 --> 00:34:00,158 and talked [bleep] about me to him. 860 00:34:00,158 --> 00:34:01,225 Like, I just don't-- I don't get it. 861 00:34:01,225 --> 00:34:02,760 - Let's ask her. - Let's go. 862 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,095 I'm cool, I'm calm, 863 00:34:04,095 --> 00:34:05,296 as long as don't nobody saying crazy. 864 00:34:05,296 --> 00:34:06,597 - OK, OK. 865 00:34:06,597 --> 00:34:09,334 - Had it been just any old random chick. 866 00:34:09,334 --> 00:34:11,069 - That would have been worse! 867 00:34:11,069 --> 00:34:13,304 - She actually felt that would have been better. 868 00:34:13,304 --> 00:34:15,206 - She's hurt. She's hurt. 869 00:34:15,206 --> 00:34:17,108 - And she's hurt. - So I was wrong. 870 00:34:17,108 --> 00:34:18,943 - Tami, I'm gonna take Brandon with me. 871 00:34:18,943 --> 00:34:20,378 - OK. 872 00:34:20,378 --> 00:34:22,313 - And let them process what they're both feeling. 873 00:34:22,313 --> 00:34:23,815 - OK. - All right. 874 00:34:23,815 --> 00:34:25,850 ♪ ♪ 875 00:34:25,850 --> 00:34:29,053 - Like, I do not want to lose this friendship over Brandon. 876 00:34:29,053 --> 00:34:31,356 - But you never told me that you love him. 877 00:34:31,356 --> 00:34:32,890 - I never said I was in love with him. 878 00:34:32,890 --> 00:34:34,359 I do have feelings for Brandon. 879 00:34:34,359 --> 00:34:36,060 - So then what is the-- why are y'all playing house 880 00:34:36,060 --> 00:34:37,495 if you're not in love with him? 881 00:34:37,495 --> 00:34:38,896 That's what the [bleep] I'm trying to understand. 882 00:34:38,896 --> 00:34:40,898 - Babe, we was chilling too. 883 00:34:40,898 --> 00:34:42,100 - That's some bull[bleep] because you know 884 00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:43,368 I'm not [bleep] him right now. 885 00:34:43,368 --> 00:34:45,069 You [bleep] him, and I'm [bleep] you. 886 00:34:45,069 --> 00:34:46,637 You [bleep] both of us like you-- 887 00:34:46,637 --> 00:34:48,940 and I just think that's slimy for you to do that. 888 00:34:48,940 --> 00:34:51,409 - You gave me permission to [bleep] him. 889 00:34:51,409 --> 00:34:53,211 - You were supposed to [bleep] him when I'm there, bitch! 890 00:34:53,211 --> 00:34:54,512 - But when you guys were all together. 891 00:34:54,512 --> 00:34:55,947 - Well, they both was doing the same [bleep]. 892 00:34:55,947 --> 00:34:58,149 They both lying to each other, and then both coming me. 893 00:34:58,149 --> 00:34:59,884 I'm over that [bleep]. 894 00:34:59,884 --> 00:35:01,386 It's either we all gonna be together, 895 00:35:01,386 --> 00:35:02,987 or we all go our separate [bleep] ways, 896 00:35:02,987 --> 00:35:04,255 or I'm just out. 897 00:35:04,255 --> 00:35:05,656 Y'all can figure out y'all bull[bleep]. 898 00:35:05,656 --> 00:35:06,824 I don't got time for it. 899 00:35:06,824 --> 00:35:08,359 - So let me ask you this. 900 00:35:08,359 --> 00:35:10,762 Are you in love with Emily? 901 00:35:10,762 --> 00:35:16,634 ♪ ♪ 902 00:35:18,736 --> 00:35:20,305 - They both was doing the same [bleep]. 903 00:35:20,305 --> 00:35:22,373 They both lying to each other, and then both coming to me, 904 00:35:22,373 --> 00:35:23,975 and selling me [bleep] dreams. 905 00:35:23,975 --> 00:35:26,177 - What does that mean as it pertains to Emily? 906 00:35:26,177 --> 00:35:27,712 - We've been together since we was little, 907 00:35:27,712 --> 00:35:29,280 on and off, whatever. 908 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,483 As of lately it's been, let's just get a house together, 909 00:35:32,483 --> 00:35:34,686 it'll be me, you, and her daughter, 910 00:35:34,686 --> 00:35:36,487 and we get the [bleep] away from all this [bleep] 911 00:35:36,487 --> 00:35:37,956 and start over. 912 00:35:37,956 --> 00:35:39,824 - So let me ask you this. 913 00:35:39,824 --> 00:35:42,193 Are you in love with Emily? 914 00:35:43,995 --> 00:35:45,697 The reason I'm asking you that 915 00:35:45,697 --> 00:35:49,601 is because when we watched the footage of you guys, right? 916 00:35:49,601 --> 00:35:55,406 She was upset, but she was more hurt by you. 917 00:35:55,406 --> 00:35:58,176 - She knows I'm in love with her. 918 00:35:58,176 --> 00:36:00,545 Literally the only reason I'm still [bleep] with Brandon 919 00:36:00,545 --> 00:36:01,946 is because of you. 920 00:36:01,946 --> 00:36:03,581 - What does that mean? 921 00:36:03,581 --> 00:36:05,116 - Because you still trying to fix your relationship with him, 922 00:36:05,116 --> 00:36:06,384 so I'm trying to make it so that we 923 00:36:06,384 --> 00:36:07,885 all three can be together. 924 00:36:07,885 --> 00:36:09,487 - So if I'm not in a relationship, 925 00:36:09,487 --> 00:36:11,055 you still gonna [bleep] with him? 926 00:36:11,055 --> 00:36:13,491 - No. 927 00:36:13,491 --> 00:36:15,360 - I know women that would kill to have [bleep] 928 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,028 like me around, you feel me? 929 00:36:17,028 --> 00:36:18,630 So when the woman that's in front of me 930 00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:21,432 that I'm giving all that to is not giving that to me, 931 00:36:21,432 --> 00:36:23,301 it starts having me question myself. 932 00:36:23,301 --> 00:36:24,736 So what should I do? 933 00:36:24,736 --> 00:36:27,105 - Number one, you're gonna tell them how you feel. 934 00:36:27,105 --> 00:36:28,573 Emily, I love you. 935 00:36:28,573 --> 00:36:32,176 However, these are the things that we're not jiving on. 936 00:36:32,176 --> 00:36:34,345 - If you guys aren't gonna have Brandon 937 00:36:34,345 --> 00:36:37,515 in the relationship, what happens with you two? 938 00:36:39,717 --> 00:36:41,085 - Which one of them? 939 00:36:41,085 --> 00:36:42,353 - I'm in love with Emily, man. 940 00:36:42,353 --> 00:36:44,288 Emily. - Emily's the one? 941 00:36:44,288 --> 00:36:46,024 - Yeah, like, I got love for Jojo, 942 00:36:46,024 --> 00:36:48,226 but I really feel like this me and Jojo, 943 00:36:48,226 --> 00:36:49,560 it's an in the moment thing. 944 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,262 - Right. 945 00:36:51,262 --> 00:36:52,664 - I'm not trying to disrespect neither one of them. 946 00:36:52,664 --> 00:36:54,799 Like, I'm not here to bring down nobody's character. 947 00:36:54,799 --> 00:36:55,933 - Right. 948 00:36:55,933 --> 00:36:57,502 I can help you start. 949 00:36:57,502 --> 00:37:00,204 By saying it like-- start with what I told you. 950 00:37:00,204 --> 00:37:02,006 - All right, man. 951 00:37:02,006 --> 00:37:03,441 - I appreciate you. 952 00:37:03,441 --> 00:37:04,909 - Brandon. 953 00:37:04,909 --> 00:37:06,310 Come back up here, baby. 954 00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:08,546 - I'm here to support you. 955 00:37:08,546 --> 00:37:10,048 [tense music] 956 00:37:10,048 --> 00:37:11,716 He got something to say, Tami. 957 00:37:11,716 --> 00:37:13,551 - Perfect, let's hear it. 958 00:37:13,551 --> 00:37:14,619 - [sighs] 959 00:37:14,619 --> 00:37:17,388 I want to start by acknowledging 960 00:37:17,388 --> 00:37:22,093 I broke the trust, and I'm wrong. 961 00:37:22,093 --> 00:37:24,328 I want us to start with a clean slate. 962 00:37:24,328 --> 00:37:27,598 I do love you. I want to be with you. 963 00:37:27,598 --> 00:37:29,033 ♪ ♪ 964 00:37:29,033 --> 00:37:31,269 - What about her? 965 00:37:31,269 --> 00:37:33,438 - I understand that y'all got a deep friendship. 966 00:37:33,438 --> 00:37:34,639 - I'm not just her friend. 967 00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:36,274 Let's get that straight, first of all. 968 00:37:39,110 --> 00:37:41,446 And she's in love with me too. 969 00:37:41,446 --> 00:37:43,648 That's what you don't know. 970 00:37:43,648 --> 00:37:44,916 ♪ ♪ 971 00:37:44,916 --> 00:37:46,250 - It's not happening, bro. 972 00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:48,186 ♪ ♪ 973 00:37:48,186 --> 00:37:49,554 It's over. 974 00:37:49,554 --> 00:37:51,189 I don't want to be involved with you no more. 975 00:37:51,189 --> 00:37:53,224 - I'm wrong, and there's nothing 976 00:37:53,224 --> 00:37:55,727 I could say to make that better. 977 00:37:55,727 --> 00:37:58,129 If I have to change the way I go about things-- 978 00:37:58,129 --> 00:37:59,664 - You don't have to change nothing. 979 00:37:59,664 --> 00:38:01,232 Be yourself by yourself. 980 00:38:01,232 --> 00:38:02,667 - All right. - None of this [bleep] matters. 981 00:38:02,667 --> 00:38:04,302 I love her. I want to be with her. 982 00:38:04,302 --> 00:38:05,903 He got to get out. 983 00:38:05,903 --> 00:38:07,505 - OK. 984 00:38:08,106 --> 00:38:09,440 - OK. 985 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,476 - So, Brandon, you've heard the decision. 986 00:38:11,476 --> 00:38:12,710 - Mm-hmm. 987 00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:16,614 - She's going to stay with Jojo. 988 00:38:16,614 --> 00:38:17,782 - I'm sorry. 989 00:38:17,782 --> 00:38:20,084 - And she doesn't want to continue 990 00:38:20,084 --> 00:38:21,419 the relationship with you. 991 00:38:21,419 --> 00:38:23,020 Are you OK with that? - Yeah, I'm chilling. 992 00:38:23,020 --> 00:38:27,759 - All right, can you go and escort Brandon out? 993 00:38:27,759 --> 00:38:29,393 - [bleep] real. 994 00:38:33,664 --> 00:38:36,167 - There it is, so I guess my work is done. 995 00:38:36,167 --> 00:38:37,668 I'ma go ahead on out. 996 00:38:37,668 --> 00:38:40,471 I'm gonna head on out the house then, child. 997 00:38:40,471 --> 00:38:42,507 You know, my job is done. 998 00:38:44,208 --> 00:38:45,810 - ♪ Too fly, my guy ♪ 999 00:38:45,810 --> 00:38:47,478 ♪ Mix hood with a little bit of bougie, a'ight ♪ 1000 00:38:47,478 --> 00:38:50,148 ♪ You ain't never seen a girl get down this way ♪ 1001 00:38:50,148 --> 00:38:51,516 ♪ Change up and go like this ♪ 1002 00:38:51,516 --> 00:38:53,785 ♪ Make all my plays with no assist ♪ 1003 00:38:53,785 --> 00:38:56,721 ♪ Unspoken rizz, grip on my waist down to my lips ♪ 1004 00:38:56,721 --> 00:38:59,957 ♪ I keep the gal then fade ♪ 1005 00:38:59,957 --> 00:39:02,193 [video call ringing] 1006 00:39:02,193 --> 00:39:03,494 - Emily. 1007 00:39:03,494 --> 00:39:05,363 - Hey, Tami. How are you? 1008 00:39:05,363 --> 00:39:07,431 - I am doing well. 1009 00:39:07,431 --> 00:39:09,801 Now, listen, it has been a minute 1010 00:39:09,801 --> 00:39:13,070 since we last saw each other, so I wanted to check in. 1011 00:39:13,070 --> 00:39:14,372 How is life? 1012 00:39:14,372 --> 00:39:16,474 Are you still with Brandon? 1013 00:39:16,474 --> 00:39:17,875 - Well, no, we're not together, 1014 00:39:17,875 --> 00:39:20,912 but we still co-parent for the kids. 1015 00:39:20,912 --> 00:39:23,214 The dynamic hasn't really changed 1016 00:39:23,214 --> 00:39:25,583 that much in their eyes because he's 1017 00:39:25,583 --> 00:39:27,885 always been working a lot. 1018 00:39:27,885 --> 00:39:30,988 So he has his own place where he works and where he stays, 1019 00:39:30,988 --> 00:39:32,790 so, you know, he's up there. 1020 00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:34,492 So when he wants to spend time with my daughter, 1021 00:39:34,492 --> 00:39:36,294 she goes, and then vice versa. 1022 00:39:36,294 --> 00:39:37,962 - Oh, well that's good. 1023 00:39:37,962 --> 00:39:41,432 You guys are actually handling that very maturely. 1024 00:39:41,432 --> 00:39:44,802 I'm happy to hear that. And what about Jojo? 1025 00:39:44,802 --> 00:39:48,472 That night, it seemed like you guys had made a decision 1026 00:39:48,472 --> 00:39:50,274 where you were gonna be together. 1027 00:39:50,274 --> 00:39:53,945 - That is true, but right now, we're taking it slow. 1028 00:39:53,945 --> 00:39:56,714 I don't think it'll be beneficial for me 1029 00:39:56,714 --> 00:39:59,517 if I just rush into a relationship right now. 1030 00:39:59,517 --> 00:40:01,819 I just need to be by myself. 1031 00:40:01,819 --> 00:40:05,690 - You know, this moment will speak to a lot of women, 1032 00:40:05,690 --> 00:40:08,926 and I commend you for acknowledging, 1033 00:40:08,926 --> 00:40:13,264 hey, I got to spend time by myself for myself. 1034 00:40:13,264 --> 00:40:17,000 - I know some women are probably intimidated to do so 1035 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:17,001 - I know some women are probably intimidated to do so 1036 00:40:17,001 --> 00:40:18,302 because they fear being alone. 1037 00:40:18,302 --> 00:40:19,470 - Yeah. 1038 00:40:19,470 --> 00:40:20,605 - But when you are by yourself, 1039 00:40:20,605 --> 00:40:21,906 focus on what you want to do, 1040 00:40:21,906 --> 00:40:23,174 focus on--you've got a business, 1041 00:40:23,174 --> 00:40:24,876 focus on your business. 1042 00:40:24,876 --> 00:40:26,377 And that's something that you want to pursue, do that. 1043 00:40:26,377 --> 00:40:28,546 It's more beneficial for yourself. 1044 00:40:28,546 --> 00:40:30,448 And then, when you meet somebody, 1045 00:40:30,448 --> 00:40:31,983 or you do decide to be with somebody, 1046 00:40:31,983 --> 00:40:34,085 you'll be a better version of yourself for yourself 1047 00:40:34,085 --> 00:40:35,653 and also for the other person. 1048 00:40:35,653 --> 00:40:38,823 - Well, I--look, we can end on that note 1049 00:40:38,823 --> 00:40:41,092 because I feel like you got it together. 1050 00:40:41,092 --> 00:40:44,795 It may not have gone the way you wanted it to go, 1051 00:40:44,795 --> 00:40:48,532 but you did leave with some form of clarity 1052 00:40:48,532 --> 00:40:51,469 about where you should go in the future. 1053 00:40:51,469 --> 00:40:52,637 - Exactly. 1054 00:40:52,637 --> 00:40:54,272 - All right, sweetie, take care. 1055 00:40:54,272 --> 00:40:57,475 Bye. 1056 00:40:57,475 --> 00:40:59,343 Cheaters, beware. 1057 00:40:59,343 --> 00:41:01,178 - You [bleep] kissed her, you idiot! 1058 00:41:01,178 --> 00:41:03,881 - Next time you want to be unfaithful, think again. 1059 00:41:03,881 --> 00:41:06,884 Let me tell you one mother[bleep] thing! 1060 00:41:06,884 --> 00:41:08,886 Oh, Lord, oh, Lord, oh, Lord, oh, Lord! 1061 00:41:08,886 --> 00:41:10,421 Because I just might... 1062 00:41:10,421 --> 00:41:11,522 Oh, God, she's running-- 1063 00:41:11,522 --> 00:41:13,457 Catch you in the act. 1064 00:41:15,543 --> 00:41:18,813 [bright tones] 1065 00:41:20,607 --> 00:41:23,377 [dramatic hip-hop music] 1066 00:41:23,377 --> 00:41:30,517 ♪ ♪