- ♪♪ MTV ♪♪
- I'm Tami Roman.
I have been cheated on before.
You [bleep] my man when I was married to him.
I even wrote a book about it.
And I've made it my mission to help suspicious lovers
catch their cheating partners in the act.
- You know what's been going on ever since--
- You're disrespectful as [bleep].
- What is this?
- Oh!
- Together with my relationship expert...
- She just slept with him last night.
Is that the kind of guy that you wanna be with?
- And stealthy investigation team...
- What do we have here? She's busted now.
- We won't stop until we find the truth.
Are you sure you wanna see this footage?
Once our investigation is complete,
the suspicious lover can team up
with the partner's other lover...
- I think we have a person in common.
- Or take down both of them in an undercover ambush.
- That's what the [bleep] we're doing, Katie?
- We're not together.
- So I'm not taking care of your kids at the crib?
- Cheaters, beware.
- Why do you have cameras? - Consider them my team.
- You put her in a position to act like it.
- Do you want him?
- Both of you are the victim of deception.
- Do you see him taking his [bleep] pic?
- He's taking what?
- Tami!
Tami!
- Nobody should think they're better than anybody else
because y'all all [bleep] been played.
And that's just the truth.
This is "Caught in the Act: Unfaithful."
- ♪♪ Made it clear when you told me ♪♪
♪♪ Don't know why but you gotta be lonely ♪♪
♪♪ Say it's hard but you make it look easy ♪♪
- Hello there, Max.
- Hello. - How are you?
- Pleasure. - Same.
My name is Tami. - Tami?
- Yes, Tami Roman.
- All right. - Nice to meet you.
- And you.
- So I know that you contacted our offices
because there are some things going on in your relationship.
Let's go all the way back
and tell me a little bit about you, Max.
- I'm just a homogenized boy from the Midwest.
- I like homogenized.
- Yeah. - I'm gonna steal that.
- Yeah, since I'm from corn country.
- [laughs] And what was that like growing up?
- That was good.
- Both parents?
- Parents together for 57 years.
- I love that. - I didn't know anything else.
- So tell me about relationships.
- Relationships started early.
10, 12. - Really?
You had a girlfriend at 12?
- I've had girlfriends forever.
Yeah. - Were you out there, Max?
- I was the cute guy.
The fun, cute, you know, happy-go-lucky.
- I can see it.
- I'm a lover. - Ooh.
- I'm a lover. - Mad Max.
- I'm not a fighter.
But I've been through, you know, two marriages.
I've had many relationships that lasted, you know,
four years or longer.
- Tell me about your marriages.
- I'd actually been without a relationship
for a couple of years. - Okay.
- That's probably been my downfall
in a lot of relationships as I've gotten into ones,
because I was lonely.
And that's how this first marriage was.
It was like, well, okay, if I'm 28 years old,
might as well get married.
- How long did that marriage last?
- About four years. - Four years?
How long before your next marriage?
- Two years, you know?
And then I fell madly in love with her.
- Now her you did love?
- Oh, yeah, I thought she was amazing.
- It was crystal clear?
- Yeah, yeah.
- Why did it end?
- I'd been out of town for a couple of days.
I thought I'll go look online.
And I looked at the history on my web searching,
and it showed like, divorce attorneys.
- She was looking for an attorney.
- And so then I started putting two and two together
and called her on it.
And basically, she told me what was going on.
- But did she give you a reason of why she no longer wanted
to be in the relationship?
- Not really.
I guess a woman wants a fighter.
And she was the type, I think, that wanted a fighter.
- How much time did you take off
before you found the young lady you're here about?
- A year and a half.
- So see, Max, here's the thing now.
- Yeah. - [sighs]
- You got my pattern down?
- [laughing] Yes.
- [bleep].
- You are not spending any time with yourself.
- Yeah, face my demons.
- Yes, I get it.
That's what you did.
And then you met this young lady whose name is--
- Melissa.
- How did you guys meet? - Ah, online dating.
But I knew from day one, it's like I couldn't afford her.
She's got all designer clothes and bags,
and you're just like, oh, my God, I can't afford this woman.
- Mm-hmm.
- But she recorded our first date.
- Really? - Yeah.
- We have a recording of our entire date.
Ah. - Yeah, proof.
Would you pull out your phone and go, oh, my God,
this guy is so amazing, I wanna record this experience?
- Absolutely not.
- No, but that's the message that's sent to me,
is like she thought I was amazing.
And boom, overnight, you know, we were together.
- So you take her back to your place?
- Yes.
We consummated the relationship the following evening.
- Tell me a little bit about her.
- She's a lot of fun.
She was a Mardi Gras queen
when she was like 19 years old.
And she went to LA and started meeting
all of these famous people and went out with them
and all kinds of other nefarious things.
- OK. - And then bingo,
she meets her husband, who flies her in private jets.
- Oh, she had the good life.
- Yeah, that, to me, is intriguing.
And then her husband passed away.
- Okay.
- She has experienced a lot. - Mm-hmm.
So even though you acknowledge, in the beginning,
I can't afford you, you guys are still together?
- Yeah. - How?
- I don't know, perseverance and this whole thing
about being a lover, and at this point in my life,
I--I want love, I want a partnership.
Someone I wanna share experiences with, and, um...
- Is she the right person for you, though?
- There are a lot of right qualities.
I lean towards people who have experienced a lot of things,
and Melissa has.
I love Melissa. She's sexy as hell.
She's real gregarious and outgoing,
and like me, she can talk to anyone.
So we go out in public,
and she'll be talking to the waiters and waitresses
and people next door, and she'll--
she'll invite them over
and wanna buy them drinks and food, and I love that too.
She talks about, you know, she's in this for the long run.
- And how long have you guys been together?
- About 16 months.
But we've only lived together for about four or five months,
something like that. - Okay.
So you guys live together?
- Yeah, we came out of the gates roaring, man.
It was like a horse race.
- How's your sex life?
- Melissa started taking this pill for menopausal women.
It helps bring back the desire.
You know, it's like being with a 21-year-old.
I'd have to pop Viagra until I was flat on the floor dead.
- So how's that going, if she wants it every day,
and you're unable to keep up with that?
- Well, she understands.
I'm 66 years old.
You know. She doesn't expect it.
But the concern was the financial part.
I found out that she basically doesn't have any money.
Her husband had passed away and left her a lot of money,
but that it was all tied up in probate.
She thinks she's gonna get $8 million.
- Wow. - Yes.
- Do you think she's gonna stay with you
when she gets the money?
[tense music]
- I do.
- So, really, you're taking care of her?
- Yeah.
- The woman you thought you couldn't afford.
- I'm the sugar daddy.
Yeah.
- So people usually sit on that side of the couch
because they feel like there's some infidelity
in the relationship. Is that what you feel?
- Yes.
She has, you know,
past relationships that I wish weren't there.
- Like her exes?
- Some exes, some people that I don't even know
what category you put them in. - Okay.
- At night, she'll go out and say,
I'm gonna go out with my girlfriends or whatever,
and I don't completely believe it.
You know? - Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
- She's had a fitness trainer for many years.
It seems like all of a sudden, her workouts
have become more common and sometimes late at night.
- I was gonna say-- - Maybe she's taking his--
- Once you start taking those hormone thingies,
you get a sex drive that's like, unmatched.
And then, you know, you taking the little blue guys,
and he don't gotta take the little blue guys.
I mean, you know. - Right. Right.
So I don't know, I've thought about that.
- Have you asked her?
- Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- What did she say? - She brushes it all off.
I wanna know for sure if something's going on.
- Well, this is what I'm going to do.
Does she have a car?
- We share a car. - You share a car? Okay.
Will you allow my investigation team to rig it with cameras?
- Sure.
- I'm going to contact my investigation team.
Should we find something out or not,
I will bring you back into the loft
and we'll discuss what we've seen.
- Awesome. - Okay.
You be normal.
Do not tell her that you came to have a conversation with me.
Let me do my thing, and you continue
to be your wonderful self. - Sounds good.
- ♪♪ Move on the dance floor ♪♪
♪♪ We start with the dance floor ♪♪
♪♪ I don't ask, I demand ♪♪
♪♪ That we can make ya ♪♪
- Top of day one today.
So I'm outside on the street right now.
This freaking driveway of this house
has to be a half a mile long.
Lots of trees, so it's really a difficult place
to do surveillance.
But luckily, it's Max's car.
He's the registered owner of the vehicle,
so I have permission to put cameras in there.
So we have audio, visual.
And now we're gonna wait and see what she does today.
Let's take a look.
[suspenseful music]
♪♪ ♪♪
Here we go, guys.
I'm gonna wait and then follow her
wherever the hell she's going.
She's very dressed up for daytime.
Is she going in here?
Where is this Melissa going?
This is an entertainment complex, for sure.
Let's see where they go.
It's okay.
There she is, going to have a drink or lunch
or something like that.
Okay, she just went into this wine bar.
So I'm going to go in there and use--let's see.
I'm gonna do my...
purse cam.
Right here, video, audio, it's perfect
for a bar type of atmosphere.
Okay, let's do this.
- Oh, boy.
Nothing to report as far as she's very flirtatious.
She bought everybody a round of drinks in the whole entire bar.
So we'll wait for her to come out and then
start surveillance again.
♪♪ ♪♪
Okay, here we go. Here we go.
Melissa, where are you going?
♪♪ ♪♪
Looks like she's going back home.
[phone ringing]
I have the video and audio in the car, so let's check it out.
- [mouthing words]
I mean, this is crazy.
Who stretched her out?
- ♪♪ One, two, it's my time ♪♪
♪♪ Making new moves, how I live my life ♪♪
♪♪ This right here not for the faint-hearted ♪♪
♪♪ Out here, we're just getting started ♪♪
♪♪ Let's work ♪♪
- [mouthing words]
- Okay, so we don't have much.
I mean, she is very flirtatious.
We saw her at the wine bar.
Now she just went into the house.
The phone call is a red flag.
So I just gotta figure out who this mystery man is.
I have no idea, but all I know is,
we're gonna sit here and wait.
[suspenseful music]
♪♪ ♪♪
Top of day two.
Here we are back at her house.
Gotta have patience.
♪♪ ♪♪
Here she comes.
I gotta get down.
We got her.
All right, so looks like we're downtown.
Where the heck--what is this?
It looks like a park.
Yeah. Oh, she just pulled over.
She's at the park.
Let's see, let me--oh, I know what's great for this.
I got my camera watch.
Excellent sound quality and excellent video.
♪♪ ♪♪
[indistinct chatter]
- Okay, let's go have some water.
[laughter]
- Whoa, guys. Okay.
I was on this weight--
weights--and I was able to hear her and her girlfriends.
This is Aaron. This is her personal trainer.
Look at this.
Okay.
And let's go see where she goes today.
Oh, perfect, a car is getting right in front of me.
Let's go.
♪♪ ♪♪
All right, she just pulled in here.
I'm not sure where the hell she's going.
♪♪ ♪♪
So she walks into this building.
There's no signage anywhere on this building.
I just ran the address.
This is a sex toy shop.
Hold on, guys, she coming out.
Where you going now?
♪♪ ♪♪
Well, this is real residential.
Ah.
All right, she's going to someone's house.
She just pulled in this driveway.
I'm gonna turn around over here and park.
I have no idea whose house this is.
I don't know where she's taking all the [bleep].
I'm just gonna sit here.
She's gotta come out sometime.
So we're just gonna wait.
♪♪ ♪♪
And we have mov--
[gasps] Who is that?
Who's that man she's with?
Let's see.
They're getting in the car.
Oh, they're going somewhere fancy.
Okay, hold on a minute.
Oh, my God, this is the personal trainer.
And this guy's driving Max's car.
It's like, what a disre--
it's just such a kick in the ass.
Oh, wow, they're going somewhere really nice.
It looks like a really romantic place.
She's with the personal trainer.
It's exactly what Max thought.
She's freakin' busted now.
- ♪♪ When I walk in the place, they go ♪♪
♪♪ ♪♪
- Hey there, Max. - Hello.
- This is my dear friend, Coach Ken.
- How are you, Max? - How are you?
Pleasure. Pleasure.
- Have a seat over here. - I love your voice.
- Thank you very much.
- Coach Ken is here today as a relationship expert
to help you deal with some of the things
you may see today.
- How are you feeling, Max?
- I-I expect to see problems.
- Okay. Interesting.
- Are you ready? - Sure.
- This was our first day of surveillance.
She ends up at this establishment.
- Mm-hmm.
- This is her.
- She picked up everybody's drinks in the establishment.
- [stammering] Yeah.
- Considering you said she doesn't have an income,
so that was definitely your money that bought those drinks.
- Yeah, I cover most things.
- Most of it? - Yeah.
- We followed her back home,
and that was the end of her day.
- Okay.
- You wanna see day two of our surveillance?
- No. [laughter]
- Well, you're going to because that's what you came to me for.
We pick her up at a park.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, and this is her.
She's more into the concept of working out,
it seems, than actually working out.
- Oh, the pink pill.
- Oh, my God.
- [laughs]
- Girl talk. - Yeah. Yeah.
[laughter]
- I'm gonna go elsewhere, okay.
- So she leaves the park and she ends up at the adult store.
[phone rings] - Hello?
- She does have a strong sexual appetite.
I can't be everything she wants me to be sexually, I can't.
- I was gonna say, I learned a little more about you
than I needed to know. - Yeah.
- But we followed her after that conversation,
and she ended up here.
- This is not our house.
- That is the trainer's house.
She stayed there the entire afternoon.
- At his place? - At his place.
And now they're going out for a date.
- [bleep]. He's driving my car?
Is this like the same day? - This is the same day.
- She's worked out, spent time with him.
- Went and got sex toys, told you about yourself,
then drove to his house.
Now they're going out on a date, and he's driving.
- Oh, [bleep]. [bleep].
- Travel? We can travel?
So she's going off with this guy.
- Greece.
She's spending my money.
So is this someplace else now they're sitting down?
- This is them coming out of the restaurant.
And they start [bleep].
- Yeah. This hurts.
This hits the bottom of the soul.
- So now she's on her way home to you.
- I figured something was going on,
but that is way over the line.
- Let's move on to the next clip,
because I just want you to see everything.
- There's more. - Yes, there's more.
This was our last day of surveillance.
- And I wonder whose money would be used for the gym.
- Oh.
I guess this is when she gets her inheritance.
- They end up back at this gentleman's house.
- Yeah.
- When we followed them, it was daytime.
Now it's nighttime, and they're on the balcony.
She's swinging the handcuffs that she brought
from the sex shop.
- This is crossing the line big time.
This is [bleep] bull-[bleep].
- I think there's a lot to unpack here.
- She's created this persona of who she thinks she is.
- Who she used to be.
- Okay. - That's what I think.
She completely tries to emasculate, belittle you.
- No, whoa, tries?
No, she did emasculate him.
- Yeah.
- I don't know, this is all making me so sad.
- Yeah.
It's hurtful.
- This hits the bottom of the soul.
Having a relationship with Melissa is very difficult.
And I'm the kind of guy, I just do what I can to please her.
But it's bull-[bleep], and I wanna call her on it.
[somber music]
- I don't know, this is all making me so sad.
- Yeah, it's hurtful.
- I think that you really just want someone to love you,
and you're tolerating someone completely being
so rude and so disrespectful
because you have a fear of being alone.
And when I look out at that, there was a point in my life
where I felt like that.
Was I gonna find someone?
And am I gonna spend the rest of my life by myself?
But to see you accept this just hurts me.
- Yeah.
- And this woman is very--
- All about herself. - Yes.
She's put you in the compartment of,
Max serves the purpose of taking care of me right now,
and I don't want anything else from Max.
- She has compartmentalized the relationship.
And when you compartmentalize it, everything in this box
fits for the relationship.
And if it's outside that box, it doesn't work for me.
And you have said, you know what,
I will put up with a little [bleep], you know,
to get a little honey.
- [sighs]
- If you'd like to have a conversation with Melissa,
there are two options. - Yeah.
- Okay?
So the first option is, we can try to find him again.
You can sit down and have a conversation with him,
and then the both of you can go and confront Melissa
and have a conversation with her together.
- I push him out of it. He's a toy.
He's a boy toy to her.
- Okay, so then the final option
is what we call a takedown.
And that is, we will continue to surveil Melissa.
Once we get them together, we'll contact you
and take you to go have a conversation
and catch them in the act.
- Absolutely.
- As I told you before,
continue to act normal around Melissa.
Don't let her know we're continuing to do surveillance.
We're gonna keep those rigs in the car.
And should we find out something,
I will reach back out again. - Awesome.
- Okay? - Thank you, Max.
- Thank you. - Thank you so much.
- Yeah.
- ♪♪ I pull up in that foreign ♪♪
♪♪ All my watches is foreign ♪♪
♪♪ I ain't dripping, I'm pouring ♪♪
- So Max is on his way over,
and then we're gonna head out to let him speak with Melissa.
- How do you think that's gonna turn out?
- I'm hoping that he still keeps the same energy.
- He's a nice guy.
- He's an easy-going guy. Hey, Max.
- Hi. - My guy.
- How are you? - How are you, man?
- How are you? - Come on in.
- Come on inside.
- Thank you. Good to see you.
- Good seeing you again. - Lovely as always.
- Thank you so much.
[dramatic music]
How are you feeling today? - Rattled.
- So my investigation team has informed us of where they are,
and we're headed there now. - Okay.
- Do you have any idea of questions you want to ask?
- I don't think I will get the opportunity to ask questions.
I think it will be more statements.
- What statements would you make?
- That this is completely unacceptable.
I am abhorred at your behavior,
and I will not put up with this kind of stuff.
- Fine.
But I wanna make sure that you don't
put her on the defensive.
Your objective is not to scold, right?
Your objective is to have communication
where you leave feeling like you have some form of clarity.
- Mm-hmm.
- So I want you to just really think on your approach.
♪♪ ♪♪
Okay, Max, we have landed.
As I explained to you, my investigation team
has tracked Melissa and the young gentleman
to what they have informed me is a spa.
They are inside, and we have sent a decoy inside
to show us what's going on.
- Mm-hmm. - So let's take a look.
- What the [bleep]?
[tense music]
- They are inside a spa.
So let's take a look.
- What the [bleep]?
- God, she's so playing him.
- And he's eating it up.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- They are enjoying each other's company, right?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- So I think you could go on in there.
- You got it, Max. Let's go to work.
- Let's do it. - You got it.
All right, my friend.
♪♪ ♪♪
- She is so extra.
- What the [bleep]?
Melissa, are you kidding me?
Can you make this more blatant?
- These are-- consider them my team.
- [laughs] I love Max.
- Jesus, Melissa, what the [bleep] is going on?
- I think we need to get in there.
- Why don't you move on, please?
I know she is the main driving force here.
This is about-- no, no, no, no, no.
Let's not do that.
This is between you and me.
I heard that. - It's his birthday.
I was treating him to a massage.
- No. Thank you. No, thank you.
Appreciate it.
- Hello. - Meet my team.
- Oh, I know you.
Tami? - Yes, my name is Tami Roman.
And you are on a show called "Caught in the Act."
- But I'm not caught in the act.
- Well-- - What is this?
What is this? Friends?
Friends with benefits?
- Here's the thing.
Max came to see me because he thought
there may be some infidelity.
- By the way, you're so beautiful.
- Do not deflect.
Let me tell you what's going on.
- All right. Okay.
- He came to see me because he thought
there was some infidelity in your relationship.
- Well, we're not married, first of all.
- You're not married, but you are in
a 16-month committed relationship.
- I don't know how committed you wanna say.
- Therein lies the problem.
- And that is the problem, because...
- No.
- We put you under surveillance,
and we saw that you were engaging in, you know,
little activity with-- - He's my trainer.
- Mm-hmm, yeah, he's training, all right.
- Oh, yeah? What'd you learn here?
- Max and I are in a relationship, yes.
Max-- - Oh, you admit it. Oh.
- Yes, okay, I admit it, Max, honey.
- Touch my heart.
- He puts on candles.
He does romance and lovemaking music,
but he doesn't even last the whole song.
- Listen, let me tell you something.
This is Coach Ken Canion. He's a relationship expert.
- I don't need a relationship expert.
- I think you do, because what you just said
is so emasculating and so belittling to the man
that you're supposed to be in the relationship with,
especially in front of Aaron,
who's the man you're cheating on him with.
- Okay, but Aaron is satisfying me.
- I don't know anything about any of that.
- Because my sex drive is high.
I have a higher sex drive. - Out of this world.
- Max doesn't care about me. He's selfish.
- I don't [bleep] care about you?
- You care about me.
You do everything-- he does everything for me.
- Right. - But sexually--
- Thank you, if we could get that on tape.
- Me, in my mind-- - I do everything for her.
- Relationship's 50/50.
50% relationship, 50% sex.
Half and half. He doesn't meet that 50%.
I need to go outside to get that 50%.
- So the most important thing for you is sex?
- It's 50%.
- Okay, so in your mind, half of the relationship
relies on the sexual activity of it.
- Yes, it's important to me.
- Okay, so why not have that conversation with Max...
- I do, but Max is so worried he can't keep it [bleep].
- You know the problem with this, Melissa,
obviously, you've talked about Max.
- No, I have never talked--
- We heard it. - No, you didn't.
- No, no. We heard it.
- You are lying. - We heard it.
- Specific sexual exploits with your girlfriends.
- "He can't keep it up."
We've seen it all.
- Obviously, you've talked about Max.
- No, I have never talked--
- We heard it. - No, you didn't.
- No, no. We heard it. - You are lying.
- We heard it.
- "He can't keep it up."
We've seen it all.
- Okay, so what? I don't care.
I lie first. So what? I'm guilty.
- Oh, Melissa.
So then we have to wonder, are there other things
that you've lied about?
And I'd like to talk to you. - Probably more.
- Let's go talk about those things.
Come with me. Ken, please talk to Aaron.
- So you were aware of Max?
- I didn't-- - Oh, come on. I mean--
- I can't speak on this. - Let's keep it a buck, okay?
- I mean, I know she has her own stuff going on.
We were only together so much. - OK.
- So I can only assume that when she's not with me,
I know she's not just hanging out at the house all day.
- So you were benefitting financially
from the relationship? - 100%.
It's transactional on both ends.
- Why do you love Aaron so much, or like Aaron?
- I don't love Aaron. - Why do you
like Aaron so much? - Aaron is a boy toy.
I'm using Aaron, honestly.
- You don't want someone who genuinely cares for you
and wants to be with you and respect you?
You'd rather, I pay you, give me what I need,
go on, and lose, potentially,
the person who really rocks with you?
- I don't look at Max as a boyfriend, honestly.
- Oh. Okay. Do you think that's fair?
- It's not fair. But life isn't fair, is it?
- No, life is not fair.
But you hope along the way that you find people
that can be your confidants and people that you can build
a trust with, and that's what he was hoping
that he was building with you.
- It's not enough.
- Well, guy, we know now.
She's with this guy.
It makes her feel better about who she is.
It makes her feel more, you know,
more alive and that thing. - She set [bleep] up.
Yeah. - Max is very selfish in bed.
He doesn't care about me.
- I don't think that's within his control.
I think his age is taking a toll on him,
and he's doing the best-- - Oh, so you're taking side?
Oh, he has you.
You're not my therapist, you're his.
Oh, no, you listen to me.
- Okay, I'm listening.
I'm listening because I'm gonna respect my elders.
- Max breaks up with me all the time
because he thinks he can't afford me.
- Yes, he has said that, that you are very expensive,
based on the life that you come from,
which he gave me all the details.
- If he can't care of me like that...
- So are you willing to go in there now and tell Max
that you're gonna continue being with Aaron,
or someone like that,
because he's just not right for you--
- No, I'm not going to do that.
I'm gonna ask Max if he's willing to make a change,
if he's willing to take four Viagras.
- Let me go get Max.
Let me go get Max, and we'll try to have a conversation.
- Okay, sure, no problem.
Can I get my wine, please?
- I gotta take care of me.
I've only got so many years left on this Earth.
- Excuse me, Ken, are you willing to come
have a conversation with me and Melissa?
- I think it has to happen. - Okay.
- More wine.
I will not talk until I have wine in my hands.
- And now, Max.
She has yelled at me.
She has told me to be quiet, and I need to listen to her.
And I did all of those things
because I want to respect you in this moment.
- Thank you, and I respect you also.
- Okay.
So what conversation did y'all have?
- Just a young man that's benefiting
from this type of relationship. - Okay.
- He's my trainer. He's done good.
But there's other trainers out there.
I'm sorry, Aaron.
- So both of y'all are expendable
as far as she's concerned.
- If Max changes
and initiates more of what I desire,
then we can work it out.
- I noticed that on film, you talked about your ex-husband.
- He's not ex.
He's my late husband. He passed.
- Okay, I'm sorry, late. Forgive me for the terminology.
- I miss my husband.
Max is not-- Max is great.
He does everything like my husband did,
but he's, like, just him.
I had two personal assistants, a driver,
if I didn't feel like driving.
That's just the way I was, I am.
And so I meet Max, and Max goes,
I can't keep up with my orders and demands.
- I just wanna say this from my professional opinion.
I think part of this is her coping
with her husband's passing.
And I think for her, that pain was so deep seated that she has
become this persona, because she doesn't wanna talk
about that part of her life.
- Because it hurts. - I know, I know.
That's what I'm saying.
And because it hurts, I think she's created this persona
that she lives through.
- My ex-husband-- mine's is an ex.
He's still walking.
But he played professional basketball.
And so I had that life too.
And once that ended,
I had to step into what my present was
and not continue to live in what
that past marriage was.
- Well, I am trying, but it's hard.
- But, Melissa, here's the point.
Max really wants a relationship with you.
- I want a relationship with Max too.
- But you've got to do some inner work.
I do know you wanted to get something
off your chest, though, Max. - Get it off your chest.
- And I would like for you to let him do that
and really listen to what he has to say.
- Okay.
- I'm so glad we had this conversation
because it's been very difficult for me to truly share
my feelings and thoughts with you,
but I'm gonna be selfish too.
- Be. It's okay.
I'm that way.
- I can't keep doing this. I can't do this.
- Fine.
Whatever, you're too old for me anyways.
- But it cannot be that way.
- Well, that's just the way I am, sorry.
I need more wine.
- I'm done. It's not worth it.
- You said to Max, Max... - No.
- You provide everything that I want.
- I will not talk until I have wine in my hand.
Whatever. - Outside of the sexual aspect.
- I need more wine, please. Can I get my wine?
- I am going to need to go somewhere else for those things
if you can't step up to the plate.
- I need more wine, please, before I say anything else.
- And this is what you do to him,
and that's why he feels in the relationship...
- I'm not gonna talk.
- That you're not present for him.
- Whatever. More wine.
No, I'm not doing it until it's filled.
I'm sorry.
- I can't compete with a person like that
because I feel it's very immature.
It's childish.
- Oh, well, I never had kids, so I never grew up.
Whatever.
- So you're gonna act childlike?
- I didn't resort to that.
I had breast cancer when I was 37, and I could not have kids.
- And even with having breast cancer--
- Don't yell at me.
- I'm yelling at you because you've been yelling
at me for the past hour!
- I don't have to listen to you.
I did not hire you.
- Even with having breast cancer...
- No. Goodbye.
- You're not respecting the life that God has provided you
and blessed you with... - Oh, okay.
Goodbye, Tami.
- And sent you someone who cares
so greatly for you that you just want
to be out in these streets... - Next, next.
- [bleep] just because.
[tense music]
- I had breast cancer when I was 37,
and I could not have kids.
- And even with having breast cancer--
- Don't yell at me.
- I'm yelling at you because you've been yelling
at me for the past hour!
Even with having breast cancer...
- I don't have to listen to you.
I did not hire you.
- Even with having breast cancer...
- No. Goodbye.
- You're not respecting the life that God has provided you
and blessed you with... - Oh, okay.
Goodbye, Tami.
- And sent you someone who cares
so greatly for you that you just want
to be out in these streets...
- Next, next.
- [bleep] just because.
- Well, you know what, Tami?
- I'm going to leave because I feel
like she took me out of character,
and I don't like that, okay?
So, Max, you came to me because you wanted to find out
what was happening in your relationship.
Whatever you choose to do after this moment
is all on you, okay? - Yep.
- But I gave you the footage. I gave you the truth.
I gave you the man sitting right here.
And so I've done my job.
But that woman, God bless you if you continue that.
- Yeah. Thank you, Tami.
Tami, thank you so much.
I love you for all of this.
Thank you.
- Okay, I got caught, but we'll get over it.
Everything will-- we'll let it slide,
and then we'll be back together.
- ♪♪ Try to breathe slow ♪♪
♪♪ Am I out my mind? ♪♪
- To see other people experience her
has really helped me to see who she really is.
- I guarantee you, if you check in to me in a month from now,
that Max and I will be back together laughing
and smiling and hanging out.
- ♪♪ And I'm ready to wake up ♪♪
♪♪ And I'm not alone ♪♪
♪♪ No, I'm, no, I'm, no, I'm not alone ♪♪
♪♪ No, I'm... ♪♪
- Hey there, Max.
- Hi there. How are you?
Oh, my, you look nice.
- Are you okay? Are you being held hostage?
- [laughs] - What's going on?
- I'm actually recording a band
in the basement of a warehouse.
- Oh.
- And I apologize for the background,
but it does add character.
- It definitely adds character.
And thank you for taking the time to speak with me.
How have things turned out after the experience?
- I would say the experience actually helped,
because after that, then we started talking,
- Okay. - We started understanding.
And she really opened up.
So we're actually doing quite well.
- So you guys are still together then?
- Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, we're still living together,
and we're going forward.
We're going forward.
- Okay, so she's not still training with Aaron?
- No, no, no. She stopped that.
She hasn't spoken with him or seen him or any of that.
And we've been having sex a little bit more.
- Oh, well, good for you.
Good for you and good for her. [laughs]
- At this point in my life, I want a partner.
I want someone I care about.
I want someone to go have fun with.
And she gives me all of that.
So that's good.
So I just have to keep working with her.
- Well, I'm happy to hear that for you, Max.
I do want you to start holding Melissa accountable
for the things that you actually need
out of this relationship. - I have.
I've gotten better at holding her accountable.
- Okay. - Yes, ma'am.
- I know you're busy.
I don't wanna take up too much of your time.
- Okay. Yep. Thank you for being you.
- Talk to you soon.
Cheaters, beware.
- We're not together.
- What the [bleep] is you talking about?
- Next time you wanna be unfaithful, think again.
Where you going?
Because I just might...
This is a mess. Come on, Ken. - All right.
- Catch you in the act.
- But I'm not caught in the act!
- We've seen it all.