♪ MTV ♪
I'm Tami Roman. I have been cheated on before.
You -- my man when I was married to him.
[Tami] I even wrote a book about it.
And I've made it my mission to help suspicious lovers
catch their cheating partners..
-Ooh, they kissing too. -[Tami] In the act.
-[Woman] Mother[bleep]! -Who are all these people, yo?
How many [bleep] cameras are in this room?
Oh my god! Sonny!
[Tami] Together with my relationship expert...
He will never value you unless he fears losing you.
[Tami] ... and stealthy investigation team...
Oh [bleep], who's he talking to?
[Tami] We won't stop until we find the truth.
Oh [bleep], he coming out the window.
Do you in fact want to see what I have to show you today?
[Tami] Once our investigation is complete,
the suspicious lover can team up with the partner's other lover.
He trying to get me to move my whole family up here?
-And he having sex with you? -This is ridiculous.
[Tami] Or take down both of them in an undercover ambush.
What the hell is Tami Roman doing here?
I came to find out what y'all was doing.
Cheaters, beware.
You stupid piece of [bleep]!
This is why it doesn't work!
You're communicating like a tyrant.
-[Woman] Stop him! -Oh [bleep]!
[Woman] Bitch, what the [bleep]?
[Woman] I can't take it no more, Tami!
-[Tami] Listen to me. -I can't [bleep] take it!
You got me [bleep] up, bro!
Both of y'all are acting crazy.
You should be having that energy towards the man playing y'all!
This is Caught in the Act: Unfaithful.
♪ I'm gorgeous ♪
♪ Being fresh to death is so morbid ♪
♪ I'm a stalker Tell her I orbit ♪
♪ Hold up, let me paint the portrait ♪
[Tami] Let me tell you something, Grace.
I'm not gonna pretend like I don't see this bracelet.
Yeah, so this represents
the birthstone of all five of my kids.
-You got five kids? -Yes.
-Black don't crack, OK? -I know, right?
[Tami] Do you come from a large family?
I do. I'm the middle child of eight kids.
-Your mama had eight kids? -[Grace] Yes.
-All by the same daddy? -[Grace] Yep.
-Well, that's a blessing. -[Grace] Yeah.
When we were little, my dad ended up starting
his own church.
You a pastor's kid? You a PK?
-[Grace] Yep. -What is that like?
We had to just dress in long skirts
all the way down to our feet.
No makeup, no jewelry, no nothing.
I used to have to wear the hijab and everything,
because I was raised as a Muslim.
So they really didn't understand it back then.
Then when I turned eight, my parents split
and we moved back to Chicago. With my dad and my grandma.
-Now that's interesting. -[Grace] Mm-hmm.
-What happened with mommy? -She stayed behind.
But daddy and grandma stepped up.
[Grace] Yeah. They did good.
[Tami] When did you have your first child?
I was around 21.
Talk to me about the guy that you had your first child with.
[Grace] We were 19 when we met.
Had my two older daughters years later.
-[Tami] OK. -[Grace] About 21, 22.
And then tragedy struck and he got murdered.
Actually, when I was in labor. Yeah.
-Wow. -Yeah.
So. Here comes abandonment again.
He didn't abandon you. He was taken away from you.
Mm-hmm.
Wow. That's a lot. And you're only 20 in this story.
Mm-hmm. Around this time. Yeah.
[Tami] When all this is going on.
So both of your children had to grow up without their father?
[Grace] Yes.
And then you clearly had another one.
I had my son.
And how was the relationship that brought that on?
It was so toxic, I had to get away from it.
-Really? -So...
But there is a relationship
that you're here to talk to me about.
-Yes. -[Tami] Who's that with?
-My husband. -How long you been married?
We've been married for going on three years now.
-Been together for six years. -How'd you meet?
-[Tami] What's his name? -[Grace] Jon.
-[Tami] Jon. OK. -[Grace] Yes. Jon.
[Grace] I was doing food deliveries.
OK.
In my car. Me and my kids. When they get home from school.
Didn't have a babysitter. So I had to do what I had to do.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. OK. I ain't mad at it.
As long as they wasn't eating nobody fries,
you know, it's all good.
So you met him while you were making a food delivery?
So I was coming out of the store,
-he was going in the store. -OK.
And he just was like, "Hey, let me get your Instagram."
We started to communicate, and yeah,
I eventually met up with him.
So how long did it take you to say "We in a relationship"?
We didn't get serious
until I was pregnant with my son, actually.
So up until you actually got pregnant.
-Y'all were just screwing? -We was having fun.
OK. There it is. Having fun.
How long were y'all just having fun?
It was about a year.
So is he familiar with the other three kids?
-Now he's familiar with-- -OK.
Now he's familiar with the other three kids.
OK. And you, you were OK with him being around them?
So now when you get pregnant, it's like we're about to all be
-one big happy family. -A big happy family.
Were there any conversations about marriage?
Oh, he proposed at the baby shower.
He proposed at the baby shower?
I did not, I didn't have no idea.
He took me and my kids, he changed our lives.
He's a good man, he's a good father.
So then why are you on my couch?
Well, lately I've just been
feeling a disconnection from him.
He's not doing his normal things that he does.
So tell me what he normally does.
So we have a trucking company, he runs that business.
I'm also working and, you know, running a household.
He would normally come home at night, he would normally--
So you're saying he don't come home at night?
Not every night, no.
He don't come home at all in the night time?
Not every night. The location is always turned off
in the specific truck that he's driving.
Is there anything else that's bothering you that Jon does?
Sometimes I see restaurant charges,
restaurants that he don't take me to,
but he said he's taking the fellas, they're hanging out.
We need this money, we got five kids.
He's sleeping in different rooms.
Oh, OK, well, that changes things.
We don't have sex anymore.
He's leaving out the house, not saying goodbye.
Sometimes I don't even know he's gone.
And did you have a conversation with him about that?
[Grace] I tried to talk to him about it.
[Tami] What did he say?
He laughed at me. He said, oh, you just tripping.
We'll start arguing if I bring it up.
So that's what makes me feel like it's something more.
Mm-hmm.
I want my marriage to last. We're married.
We're not just boyfriend and girlfriend.
We made promises to each other. We said vows to each other.
And if something was uncovered through this process,
-are you able to handle that? -I'm not sure.
I'm tired of losing everybody that I love.
That's why I need your help.
I'm going to assist you
in finding out the truth in your relationship.
-So here's how it works. -[Grace] OK.
I have to get with my investigation team.
I'm going to tell them this story.
We'll put Jon under surveillance and see what's going on.
What I need for you to do in the interim
-is act completely normal. -OK.
[Tami] Just leave it how it is,
and let him go on acting how and doing whatever he's doing.
And in the event there's something,
I will call you back in so that we can look at it together.
Thank you so much. I appreciate you.
♪ Tried to sleep, but my cousin's got a loud voice ♪
♪ Two women went hard Bad light, bad choice ♪
♪ One real, one three I don't feel proud, boy ♪
[Kevin] Got a call from Tami.
The wife suspects that her husband is cheating on her.
Only thing in the driveway right now is their box truck.
The wife says she's part owner. She allowed me yesterday
to get in there and wire this truck up with eyes and ears.
But right now, we're going to sit tight in this neighborhood,
see if Jon leaves, and we'll go from there.
There go my target right there, I believe. Yep.
[Kevin] We're going to go ahead and start following Jon.
[dramatic instrumental music]
[Kevin] We're at their trucking facility.
This is gonna be a waiting game, you know.
[dramatic instrumental music]
[Kevin] OK. Jon is active.
[music intensifies]
It looks like he's about to park.
Oh, OK. We got movement.
And that's a restaurant.
Well, since he's in a public place,
I'm going to divert back to my camera glasses.
Also, it's equipped with a microphone.
[Kevin] The young lady asked about the wife and kids.
Jon showed her pictures.
So right now, I'm going to just chalk this one up
as a business date, where it's a lot of flirting.
And this might be Jon's personality.
There he go. Didn't even walk up to her car.
If it was a date,
he'd have walked the young lady to her car.
It appeared that Jon might be headed back home.
He might be wrapping up his day early.
Jon said he was going out of town.
[truck horn honks]
♪ I made it to the top, did it by my lonely ♪
♪ I'm goin' for the win, so I'm jumpin' ♪
♪ They can never stop me I'm the one and only ♪
[Kevin] All right. We're back out here. Day two.
So Grace did mention Jon was going out of town.
We got our bag packed for an overnight stay.
So we're going to get comfortable
and wait for Jon to leave.
The door's opening.
Look like Jon got a duffel bag with him.
[dramatic instrumental music]
[Kevin] He's parking
Look like they're just doing a visual inspection of the truck.
Who is this?
[suspenseful music]
[Kevin] Who is this? We might be on to something.
[hip hop music]
What? Where are we going?
Makes me wonder if Grace knows anything about this.
Well, if she don't know, she's going to find out.
[percussive instrumental music]
We? Us? Why would she say "Our company"?
We've touched down, looks like, at the meeting location.
All right. So they're out of the truck.
She's carrying a blue folder in her hand.
So far, it seems like they're going into a business meeting.
[Kevin] What? I'm lost. What is your role in this?
Mhmm.
[dramatic instrumental music]
Wait a minute, we got a turn signal on.
And we are pulling into a hote, ladies and gentlemen.
[music intensifies]
♪ What did I miss? You flipped the switch ♪
♪ [indistinct] ♪
♪ [indistinct] I'll take the food ♪
♪ See if you push me under ♪
-Hey there, Ken. -[Ken] Hey, Tami.
[Tami] How are you, sir? -Looking most lovely as always.
[Tami] Oh, I hear the door. Hi, Grace.
-[Grace] Hi. -[Tami] How are you?
I guess I'm OK.
Well, let me give you a little love.
-And introduce you to Coach Ken. -Hello, how are you?
-Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. I'm Grace.
[Tami] Sit on the other side.
[Tami] Well, the reason that Coach Ken is here is because
you may have some emotions,
and sometimes people don't know how to process that.
So he's here as our relationship expert
to help you through that process.
I'm just ready to get this over with.
OK. Let's dig in.
We start out at your home.
And let me start by thanking you so much
for allowing us to put cameras into the work truck
since you both own the business together.
There's Jon.
This looks like the day he went out of town.
OK.
He ended up at your trucking facility that you own together.
But then this car pulls up.
This young lady gets out. You know who that is?
That's our assistant, Nyla.
That cat got on some kitten heels, OK?
So Nyla gets in with Jon.
Why are they sitting so close to each other?
I don't like it, me personally.
But they arrive at this facility.
What we'll see after this is it's a business meeting.
So she went to the business meeting?
[Tami] She went to the business meeting instead of you,
his partner, in the business.
It went well.
What?
She had her hand on his leg.
Time for some pleasure. What?
And then she lays on his lap while he's driving.
His ex?
They arrive at a hotel.
Once Nyla exits the vehicle, he pulls over and calls you.
[Grace] Are they sharing a room?
[dramatic music intensifies]
[Tami] They stayed overnight at this hotel.
They come out the next morning, and they start driving.
-[gentle music] -[birds chirping]
[sighs]
That was difficult for me to watch.
There were a lot of boundaries crossed.
He's already classified you as his ex.
Then she's made a joke of you.
"By the time he gets finished, she gonna be paying you."
He allows all of this.
And in the interim of his dynamic with her,
he's still continuing to lead you on.
How could he do that?
How could he let her say those things?
How could he do all of this stuff??
I notice you're watching this, but you're really very cool.
It's almost as though you expected it.
It was always in the back of my mind.
We wasn't as close as we used to be.
OK. What, y'all stop talking, y'all stopped being intimate?
-Yes. -[Ken] All of the above?
-All of the above. -[Ken] OK.
And then, when did you notice it?
About six months ago.
And so when you noticed those things,
why didn't you make a decision for yourself?
We have too much at stake.
I wanted to fix whatever it was for our kids,
for our household, to keep the peace in our household.
So it was your belief that the family,
we gotta keep the family together, we gotta do all this.
And so no matter what's going on, that's my whole objective?
[Grace] Yes.
[Ken] It's called cognitive appraisal.
And what it is is when individuals evaluate events
based on their personal belief and experiences,
instead of what they actually see.
Now the next step is,
what do you take this information and use it?
Because you need to say, "I see what it is,
"I'm real about that, and I need to make decisions
based on what I really see."
-[Ken] The thing is... -It is really hurtful.
[Ken] It is hurtful.
It's very hurtful.
But a man will never truly value you
unless he fears losing you.
Now that was a word.
You done gave us something today, Ken, OK?
So you say, "I wanted proof". Do you have enough proof?
I have proof.
Now that you've seen it, what is the response?
Because there are two options that we offer in this process.
One is called a takedown.
And that's where I put my surveillance team
back out there, they find the two of them together.
Once they do, I come with Ken to pick you up,
and you go and confront the both of them at the same time.
Then there's something called a team-up.
And that's where we take you
to go have a conversation with Nyla,
and then the two of you go and approach Jon together.
What do you suggest I do?
You asking me what I suggest that you do?
Well, I think that a team-up
is the best thing for you.
Because I feel like both of y'all
have been given improper information
on the status of your relationship with Jon.
You both have been misled.
A conversation could do y'all well.
I think I want to see her.
-You going to take my advice? -Yes.
OK, go on, because, you know, I do know what I'm talking about.
Yes! I'm going to try to make this happen ASAP.
I'm going to take you there right now.
-Is that what you want to do? -Mm-hmm.
[Tami] OK. Let's go.
[dramatic instrumental music]
[Tami] I'm happy to hear that you are ready,
because my surveillance team has found Nyla.
Looked like she was headed to a meeting or somewhere
at a place of business. We're going to take you over
so that you can have that conversation with her.
Are there any things that you want to say to him?
I just want to know what is he telling her?
Well, hallelujah! She got some questions.
Once you find out the answers,
if it's something you don't like,
I think that you have the strength to walk away
and do what's best for you. "But I still got to work."
"I still got to feed the five kids that I have."
How you going to work with your ex?
It's possible. We have to communicate for the kids.
-We can be cordial. -Thank you.
Ding, ding, ding, Ken acting like it's not possible.
It's possible.
For people to still be able to handle business.
It's possible for me to dunk a basketball. It's possible.
[Tami] Lies.
[Tami] We are here.
Now, because this is this lady's place of business,
we can't just go on up in here, you know?
OK.
So we're going to wait for her to come out,
and then we'll let you have the conversation.
Now, once you get outside of this van,
my cameras can then follow you, and Ken and I will be able
to watch the conversation on this monitor.
Got it.
Should we feel a need to step in, we will.
If it looks like you handling it fine,
then we can mind our business until it's time
for y'all two to go together to speak with Jon.
-I'm ready. -[Tami] All right.
Let's see how long it's going to take her to come on outside.
I'm going to put my feet up.
We might be sitting here a minute.
Yeah.
Is somebody coming out?
[Tami] Is that her?
-[Grace] I think that's her. -Oh, that's her.
[Ken] I think that's her.
[Grace] Hi, Nyla?
-[Nyla] Hey, who this? -You know exactly who I am.
You got cameras here for what?
Are you over here running up on me? For what, [bleep] ?
For what you going to do, ho,
because you ain't going to do nothing.
Why'd she pop off like that?
You ain't talking about nothing, over there quiet.
That's why he don't want to be with you.
[Tami] Oh, child.
Throw it! Throw it! Throw it!
[bleep], I'll [bleep] your [bleep] mouth, OK?
I'll show you a [bleep], stupid ho!
[Tami] Oh, dear God.
She done said "I [bleep] him right."
[both yelling]
I'm not [bleep] with a [bleep] that never signed a contract!
Hi there. My name is Tami Roman, OK?
I want you to calm down for two seconds.
-What is all this? -I'm getting ready to tell you.
So you're on a show called Caught in the Act: Unfaithful.
What happens here is someone comes to see me
because they think there's infidelity
in their relationship. That's exactly what Grace did.
So we put her husband, Jon, under surveillance,
and we saw him in a relationship with you.
They been separated for two years! Like, what the [bleep]?
Bitch, we still married! We still live together!
We have five kids! Bitch!
Bitch, I can't tell. Bitch, we been ring shopping.
I don't want to talk to that bitch no more. I'm done.
You ain't got to, [bleep], because I talk to your [bleep].
-[Tami] Go get her, Ken. -[Ken] Hey, hey, hey.
-You all right? -[Grace] I'm OK.
-I know that's a lot. -How could he do that?
How could he do this to our family?
I appreciate you at least standing up, because it matters.
[Nyla] He told me he was getting a divorce,
and he was going through a separation.
I'm not a homewrecker 'cause I was lied to,
I didn't know anything.
This is all I want you to understand.
Jon is the problem.
Now, when you talk to him, though, what you going to do?
Remember, he's been lying to both of you all, OK?
I would like to ask your permission
to put a hidden camera on you, have you go talk with Jon,
so that we can see how he interacts with you.
Then, when we feel like we've seen enough, let Grace come in.
And blow up the spot to get the truth for everybody involved.
-Let's do the damn thing. -You ready?
[Nyla] Let's do the damn thing, because I know my man
finna be like, "Yeah," so, yeah, we can go ahead.
OK. All right, let's do it. Can one of the producers
help me rig her up with a hidden camera?
You know where the trucking facility is, right?
So, we'll meet you over there.
They're going to hook everything up for you.
-OK. -OK?
[Tami] That was a lot.
-I get why you walked away. -I felt like it's Jon's fault.
She wouldn't be doing all of this if it wasn't for him,
-all his lies. -Holding him accountable.
-I think you got it.
So, what I asked Nyla to do
-was to wear a hidden camera -Okay.
[Tami] on her purse.
So that we could see her interaction with Jon.
We're going to be able
to watch all of that from this monitor, OK?
And then, when you feel like you're ready to step in,
-you're free to do so. -[Grace] OK.
If Ken and I need to follow you and step in,
-we'll do that as needed. OK? -OK. I'm ready.
[Tami] We're here.
I am going to turn on the monitor here. And...
She's like, "Let me just go ahead and bang this out."
-That's my cue. -[Ken] All right. All right.
[Tami] Baby mama. Bitter and distraught.
[Grace] So you want to be with her?
-Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey! -[Grace] You wanna be with her?
[Grace] So you want to be with her?
-Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey! -[Grace] You wanna be with her?
[Jon] Hey, hey, what's going on here?
Yo, yo, yo, yo, No, no, no. This is too much.
Yeah, don't be trying to [bleep] leave!
[Jon] What y'all got all these cameras for? What is all this?
I got cameras in the car. I saw everything!
You taking her on trips?
-[Jon] You on to this? -[Grace] Spending money on her?
And that's who you want to be with?
I'm trying to figure out my life right now. You know that.
Why'd she drop them knees down?
This is not the way to do it, though.
She pulled up on me, too! So if you confused, that's how I was!
Yeah, welcome to the [bleep] program!
We all [bleep] cool delusional!
Nah, this is, come on, this is a violation right here, huh?
Let me take off my shoes off, 'cause now you playing with me.
[Tami] Ooh, taking off her shoes. Come on.
[Jon] First of all, y'all bring all these cameras in here.
[Tami] What the hell?
Listen, Jon, my name is Tami Roman.
You're on a show called Caught in the Act: Unfaithful,
because Grace came to me to find out what was happening
in her relationship with you. We put you under surveillance.
We've been following you, and we found out you're
in a relationship with Nyla.
You have played in both their faces.
This is embarrassing, y'all.
It is. You should be embarrassed.
This is my company right here. This is a business.
[Nyla] Yeah, that's how I felt.
She didn't get [bleep]. You didn't get [bleep].
[Tami] These two women are fighting over you,
and you've been lying to both of them.
She's telling me she don't want me half the time.
You know, and she said she wanted a divorce.
You cussing me out--
[bleep] that. Tell that bitch how you want to be with me,
how you be [bleep], how you be doing everything.
[Jon] This, I can't do this, yo. This too much.
This is not the way to handle stuff.
-[Jon] No, no, no, no. -[Nyla] Where you going?
[Jon] Uh-uh. I'm getting up out of here.
Y'all tripping, yo. This too much right here.
[Tami] So this is what you do, Jon.
When somebody tries to talk to you, you run away?
Instead of facing what's happening in there?
-You got to face conflict. -So what y'all want to do?
I want you to sit down and talk to me
along with these two women, and tell us what's going on.
At least talk to me.
I mean, this your place. We can go right on over there,
and you can talk to me and tell me. So come on with me.
All right.
[Grace] You thought he was going to leave his family?
He ain't [bleep] with you no more.
[Nyla] OK, that's cool. We're going to see.
You done. You fired, [bleep].
Now, according to Grace, this woman loves you,
but there have been red flags. You sleeping at--
-She pushed me to that, though. -[Tami] What do you mean?
I mean, she cuss me out over everything.
It could be a small argument,
and she just call me also to bitch, bitch, bitch.
[Tami] So you're saying she told you to go to the other room?
Yeah, you can't talk to a man like that.
She don't know how to communicate.
And then the first thing she want to say is,
"Let's get a divorce." I'm thinking in my mind,
we just co-parenting.
Oh, OK, well you're enlightening me.
It's OK you don't want to be in your situation no more,
but you cannot start a new situation
until you out of the old situation!
It just kinda happened.
You didn't just slip up in some [bleep], Jon.
-That's a conscious decision. -But I'm always truthful.
You have been lying to both of them. Do you love Nyla?
To a certain degree.
-Do you want to be with Nyla? -She's fun.
Do you want to be with Nyla?
If this can't work.
-What is "If this can't work"? -My marriage.
-I do love my wife. -You love your wife?
-I do. -[Tami] You're clear on that?
Yes.
Do you want to be with your wife? Yes or no?
Yes. I want to be with my wife,
because we have so much that is at stake.
I want to be there for my kids.
And I want to try to have a family.
That was the whole reason why I got married.
So I think we need to go in together inside. OK?
And have this conversation.
And you are going to let both women know
where you stand today.
Where the [bleep] is Jon at? Where is he at?
Enough of this [bleep]. We need to wrap this [bleep] up.
-Get the problem in here now. -These two still going at it?
[Ken] I got them calm for a minute.
Everybody out. Let me talk to Grace.
I need you to come talk to your wife.
[Jon] All right.
I wanted you to come back in here
because I need for y'all to have a real conversation.
Your husband has said it emasculates him
when you bitch, bitch, bitch him.
Why is it that you do that?
I feel disrespected by you. You never listen to me.
You gaslight me. You start petty arguments with me.
And sometimes I feel like you're doing that
just so you can leave and stay gone.
And now, how you just said that, is a much better way
for him to receive it than you cursing him out.
-Then I want to say to you. -Yeah.
When she comes to you with those concerns,
she's saying "I don't feel safe in our marriage anymore."
That's ultimately what it boils down to.
I have sacrificed a lot, so I'm thinking,
"Well if this is what you don't want,
then maybe I find somebody that wants me, and we co-parent."
[Ken] A lot of times we get in relationships, right?
Because I think people have a propensity
to do things that serve their best interest.
There's a term called disillusionment.
What it is, is a lot of times I will see something
that I really don't want to see. So I don't act like it's there.
You saw some things.
I didn't act like it wasn't there.
I got it. I was trying to get it fixed.
No, no, no, no. Listen what I'm saying. So we look at things,
and we get into this emotional state where everything
that we should be looking at becomes an illusion.
So you was saying I was a lulu-ass bitch, basically?
-[Ken] Uh, lulu? -Yeah. You can say it. We cool.
I ain't gonna call you no bitch, though.
You ain't gonna call me no bitch,
-but you can call me delulu. -Lulu. OK, you was lulu then.
Yeah, that's what you was.
I know. You taught me something.
-I appreciate you doing that. -Young, fast learning bitch!
Why did you allow her to talk about me and call me [bleep]?
I mean, I can't control what she says.
-[Tami] Yes, you can. -She's crazy.
-[Tami] No, no, no. -So why you with her?
Why you sneaking around with her?
[Tami] Now, you about to piss me off,
and I'm trying to be as professional as I can.
Words are powerful.
If you keep saying to someone, "I don't want you."
-That's excuses. -[Ken] You get a divorce.
You say it, too. That's excuses.
[Jon] And then you come with this.
All of these cameras and everything.
Instead of just coming to me and saying,
"Hey, my bad. I'm sorry. I shouldn't cuss you out."
[Tami] What I'm gonna say to you right now, Grace,
you gotta choose what's right for you.
And you gotta be an example for your children right now.
And what I'm gonna say to you, you not gonna want to hear.
Jon is your husband.
Should he be?
Maybe not.
[Tami] Jon is your husband.
Should he be?
Maybe not.
But right now, Grace has to do what's best for Grace. OK?
OK.
But stop just crying for this man, child. Stop crying.
Ok.
You're a good person.
Learn how to communicate, and stop cursing people out.
[Tami] Let me go get this other gal.
-[Tami] Ken? -[Ken] Yes.
-[Tami] Y'all come on in. -[Ken] OK.
[tense music]
[indistinct dialogue]
[Tami] This whole process was tough on me,
and it was tough on Ken, because we are not
the kind of people who like to see marriages
go through this type of turmoil and dysfunction.
I feel, though, that the reason we ended up all here
is because of you, Jon. Because you weren't honest.
And in this moment, I feel like it's imperative
that you be honest with both women that are sitting here.
Nyla, look.
At the end of the day, it's not like I'm just lying to you.
It's just I'm not telling her everything
that's going on with us.
-But-- -So you're lying?
-Yeah. -Mm-hmm.
Jon, do you want to be with Nyla?
No loyalty. What I'm saying is...
Do you want to be with Nyla, man?
[Jon] We need to work this out.
[Tami] So you don't want to be with Nyla?
Are you able to answer the question, yes or no?
-Well... -[Ken] Say the truth!
I want to be happy.
[Tami] But Jon, you've got to be man enough going forward
to be honest and transparent.
You've got to stop this "Man enough" stuff.
You don't tell me what I need to stop saying.
But this is what I'm saying, though.
You don't tell me what I need to stop saying.
[Jon] I've been there. Paying the bills.
[Tami] You haven't been a man in your thought process.
I put her in a great house, nice car.
That's not what it means to be a man, baby.
-I provide. -There's character!
-[Tami] Your character! -Clock it!
Your character. I can find anybody--
You seem a little biased. You seem a little biased.
Oh, shut the [bleep] up.
I'm tired of your bull[bleep]. Just shut the [bleep] up.
I'm sick of you. Take that [bleep] somewhere else.
This is a waste of my [bleep] time.
Period. And end of story. Grace came to us to find out
what was going on in the relationship.
We provided that for her. We gave her the truth.
Grace, do you want to continue your relationship with Jon?
-No. -There you go.
Girl, you is not stupid. I thought you was a dumb [bleep].
I'm out, too. Thank y'all!
Nyla, you said you young as [bleep].
Get you a young [bleep].
[Nyla] I'm pretty much moving on with my life.
I would never try to work anything out with Jon.
I was never entitled to no situation anyways.
It is what it is. [bleep], I'm 23 years old.
I got a whole life left.
[Grace] I don't want to talk. I don't want to argue. I'm good.
[Grace] I officially want to end things with Jon.
I'm just ready to move on.
I can't take it no more. I'm done.
It's going to be some disappointment for my kid,
after all of this. It's going to be some hurt.
Moving forward, we just try to co-parent. Be cordial.
Just try. Why is that so hard?
Why is that so hard? 'Cause I be on you like this!
[Jon] And go to therapy and talk about
some of the issues that you have.
I think every couple, when they have children,
there's going to be issues. This happens to any couple.
But you got to be able to talk it through and communicate.
I think ultimately, I've always
just wanted for my marriage to work.
You know, I'm not a bad guy.
♪ Woke the beast inside of me ♪
♪ I'll start a revolution ♪
OK, Grace. Hey, Grace! Oh, my goodness.
I wasn't expecting to see Jon!
Let's dig in.
We had time to work things out. We're still working things out.
What processes are you taking to do that?
- We're doing some therapy. -Yay!
And just trying to communicate better.
Hear each other out more.
I learned I can be very emotional,
so I'm learning not to do that.
This all sounds so good. I'm very happy to hear this.
-How about Nyla? - She was fired.
- Yeah. -[Tami] She was fired?
I believe that you both understand the value
in your relationship, in the marriage.
And Jon, specifically you...
Yeah.
...through this process have learned how important
your family is to you. Would you agree to that?
[Jon] Definitely. Yes. Yep.
You know, there's, we have our moments,
but we're working through it.
You know, we're working through it.
Jon, do you love Grace
and you want to spend the rest of your life with her?
- Yes. -[Tami] Grace, do you love Jon,
and you want to spend the rest of your life with him?
Of course.
Then that's all I need, baby. My job is done!
[Tami laughs]
Thank you all for letting me check in with you.
-Bye, now. -[Jon] No problem. Thank you.
Cheaters, beware.
-How long this been going on? -Six plus years.
Oh Lord!
[Tami] Next time you want to be unfaithful, think again.
I'm quicker than you.
-[Tami] Because I just might... -Get out this damn truck!
[Tami] ...catch you in the act.
-You a cheating-ass female! -Yeah!
-He's playing me. -I would play your ass too!
[music]
[instrumental hip hop music]