[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- We were supposed to go out to eat.
So she goes, "let's do it after new year's,
Because we don't want to be outside with these clowns
When they're acting up during new year's.
- We can see this person go to jamie's apartment
And then is seen again exiting.
His sweatshirt was blood-soaked.
- It looked like a pretty brutal fight
Had taken place in that bedroom.
- How could this have happened?
They didn't have any answers for me.
- We thought it was unlikely that it
Was a random act of violence.
- We pull up jamie's facebook and see if she's
Friends with this guy.
And she was.
We wonder what his mindset is, what's he capable of?
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
[upbeat music]
- New year's eve 2016.
Sioux falls, south dakota.
28-year-old jamie wounded arrow is looking forward
To an exciting new year.
She's got a new home and big plans.
- She had gotten her own apartment.
She had gotten this job.
And she loved it.
She was proud of the fact that she did all of this stuff
On her own.
And it kind of gave her that confidence like I can do this.
Now I wonder how much more I can do.
[light guitar music]
♪ ♪
- Born on the pine ridge reservation in south dakota
And a member of the oglala lakota tribe,
Jamie is the youngest of eight children.
- When jamie was born, there was a lot of us in the family
Always trying to hold jamie, always trying to be with jamie.
- She was a complete mama's girl.
She loved her mom.
♪ ♪
- That bond that jamie and my mom
Had together was unbreakable.
♪ ♪
- Jamie has always been proud of
Her native american heritage.
And it is a central part of her identity.
- Being oglala lakota was like everything for her.
There was like a sense of freedom.
And I saw that from her.
- And there's another part of jamie's identity
That she's proud of.
Though her assigned sex at birth was male,
She has always identified as female.
- Jamie started to know that she was transgender
And never hid that from day one,
Especially how she would dress,
The makeup, the way she carried herself,
And into the schools.
None of that was hidden.
My mom would help jamie.
And they would get through things together.
My mom was always there for jamie.
♪ ♪
- In some native american cultures,
The term used to describe a transgender person
Is "two-spirited."
[upbeat music]
- It's pretty much used everywhere now as
The native american community.
If you're lgbt, this is what you are.
It's just something that we're born with.
This is how we walk.
We walk both worlds.
♪ ♪
[gentle music]
♪ ♪
- While jamie was accepted by her own family,
Others on the reservation weren't as open-minded.
- Jamie had a heavy weight on her
Due to being transgender,
The negativity that was going around
And what jamie had to go against.
- She used to tell us stories about how she was picked on.
And she really didn't seem like she could be herself.
- In high school, the emotional toll drives jamie
To drug and alcohol abuse.
- There were some struggles that jamie had.
And those are the things that I think
Jamie used as a coping mechanism for that.
But as time went on, jamie started to find
Herself in a positive way.
♪ ♪
- When jamie is 26,
She decides to leave the reservation
In search of a more supportive community
And to start working on her sobriety.
She moves to sioux falls and soon
Connects with a support group for the indigenous
Lgbt community.
- We were running the sioux falls
Two-spirit and allies society.
So she walked over.
And she goes, "are you guys two-spirit?"
And we were like, "yeah."
And we just kind of sat and visited like we
Already knew each other.
It seemed like she felt free.
She could actually be herself.
♪ ♪
She got on the track of,
"actually, I'm going to sober up."
♪ ♪
Then she went to treatment. She got better.
♪ ♪
She would contact me for support in her sobriety
Just because I knew her struggle, and I was sober.
♪ ♪
It was more like a big sister, little sister thing of
Just watching out for each other.
[light music]
♪ ♪
- Now in 2016, jamie has hit the two-year mark
Of sobriety and feels she is finally
In control of her future.
She lands her dream job as a telemarketer,
Where she gets to connect with people from all walks of life.
- She had gotten this job that it was
Five star call center here.
She loved it.
And she actually sat and told me, she goes, "sister,
"I feel like I'm good.
I finally feel like I'm good now, in a good place."
- On new year's eve 2016
Jamie opts for a quiet night at home
After picking up some takeout.
- Jamie and I spoke over the phone.
We were supposed to go out to eat.
So she goes, "all right, well, let's do it
"after new year's, because we don't want to be
"outside with these clowns when they're
Acting up during new year's, so..."
And I said, "ok, yeah, we'll do it."
- At 8:30 p.M., she settles in for the evening.
- Jamie had posted a meme
Of marge simpson laid out in a bed obviously sleeping.
And jamie posted it
In a joking kind of way indicating that
Although she knew most of her friends
Would be out partying that night,
She had no intention of doing so.
♪ ♪
- And jamie is sending out some
Text messages to family and friends
That said "happy new year."
[fireworks booming]
- Her loved ones don't know it is the final time
They will ever hear from her.
[tense music]
As the new year begins, jamie grows
Uncharacteristically quiet.
No calls, no emails, no texts, no online posts.
- When jamie initially stopped communicating
Using her cell phone,
Her friends didn't reach out to law enforcement initially,
Perhaps out of a desire to give their friend some privacy.
♪ ♪
- On January 6th, sioux falls police
Respond to a call for a wellness check
At an apartment near the city center.
- The apartment manager called law enforcement
After she had received some type of complaint
From a tenant.
- I was at home in bed.
Got a call a young lady was walking down the hallway
And she could smell something.
♪ ♪
- When patrol officers arrive,
They knock on the door of the apartment that seems
To be the source of the odor.
The landlord provides them with the tenant's name,
Jamie wounded arrow.
♪ ♪
There's no answer, so they force their way in.
♪ ♪
- Nothing seemed to be in disarray in either the
Living room or the kitchen, but that was a different story
Once you entered the bedroom.
You immediately notice blood all over the walls,
On the ceilings.
- There were smear marks.
The bedding was all over the place and full of blood.
The floor was full of blood.
- It looked like a pretty brutal fight
Had taken place in that bedroom.
- Given the condition of the scene,
The patrol officers call in the homicide squad.
[sirens wailing]
Detectives quickly arrive and continue searching
Through the apartment.
- The closet doors
Were the type that slide back and forth.
And they had been broken off of the hinges.
- In the closet was jamie on her back.
She'd been secreted in that closet.
Her shirt was pulled up.
And I could see what appeared to me to be
Stab wounds to her chest.
Jamie's body was obviously in a state of decomposition.
What's going through my head is that we are way behind.
Everyone talks about the first 48.
We're way beyond that.
We're way past four or five days.
We have homicides that are pretty much cut and dry,
But it was apparent to me that this would be a whodunit.
♪ ♪
- Investigators follow a dark trail
Of clues left by a killer.
- The knife was found in the bedroom.
There was blood on it.
- Our coroner had no problem saying
That he believed that that was the murder weapon.
You're looking at video, and you see someone enter,
And when he exits, he's blood-soaked,
You start to key in on that.
- And find themselves in a race against the clock.
- Any time you have especially a homicide
Suspect who's on the run,
Who's also on the run from parole,
You still wonder what his mindset is.
Is this an isolated incident?
What's he capable of?
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Sioux falls police have discovered the body
Of jamie wounded arrow, stabbed to death
In a closet in her apartment.
They believe she has been dead for several days.
♪ ♪
- The body is speaking to you, and it's saying a lot.
I had some questions in regards to how jamie's shirt
Was when she was stabbed.
We pulled her shirt back on,
And we could match the stab wounds on her chest
To the rips in the fabric.
So that helps to tell the story that her shirt
Was down when she was attacked.
♪ ♪
I believe he just attempted to secret her in the closet.
When he pulls her by the shirt to get her in the closet,
The shirt comes up around her neck.
♪ ♪
- As they wait for the coroner to arrive,
Detectives turn to the rest of jamie's apartment
Searching for any clues.
- So in this crime scene you're looking
For things that are there and more importantly
Things that aren't there.
Her phone isn't there.
There's no purse there.
It's apparent that somebody has left with these things.
♪ ♪
- Although these items are missing,
Detectives don't see any signs of a break-in.
As they continue to scour her apartment,
They discover what they believe
Could be the murder weapon.
- The knife was found in the bedroom.
There was blood on it.
Jamie's body sustained seven stab wounds,
All of which were consistent with a 3 1/2 to 4-inch
Blade of a kitchen knife.
♪ ♪
- That knife was bagged, sent into the lab
For forensic testing.
Our coroner had no problem saying
That he believed that that was the murder weapon.
♪ ♪
- With a killer on the loose,
Investigators know they must move quickly.
- Jamie's phone was missing.
Obviously, that becomes a major focus
With some of the investigators that I've
Tasked to find her phone.
So there are subpoenas being written,
Search warrants,
Everything we can do possible to find the phone.
The other huge thing in today's day and age is video.
- Jamie's apartment complex had surveillance cameras stationed
At various locations on the property
Near the entrances and exits to the buildings themselves.
- You're literally praying
That these cameras are functional.
So there's phone calls being made
To management to have them save and preserve
All that videotape.
[gentle piano music]
- While they wait to get the video,
Detectives are faced with the difficult task
Of contacting jamie's family.
- When I had gotten that call, I just asked why?
Why has this happened?
And how could this have happened?
They didn't have any answers for me.
♪ ♪
Then I let my mom know.
And that was hard
To relay that information to her,
Because she had dementia.
♪ ♪
It brought tears to our eyes, because it was devastating.
It was unreal.
It was heartbreaking.
♪ ♪
- When I got the news, it was a big shock,
A huge shock for us.
♪ ♪
How did this happen?
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- News of the murder of a native american transgender
Woman brutally stabbed in her own home quickly spreads.
- It's unusual.
It is still headline news when a murder
Happens in sioux falls.
So the fact that it happened on new year's eve
To a member of the trans community
Was a really big deal.
They wanted to make sure a killer was brought to justice.
♪ ♪
- In search of answers, detectives begin
Questioning jamie's neighbors.
- It was a huge apartment complex.
I'd say probably a thousand people living there.
- It seemed to be a place where people
Kept to themselves.
People minded their own business.
And so it wouldn't be unusual for a tenant
To not be seen by his or her neighbors
For a number of days.
- But you can't discount someone
In the building having knowledge and potentially
Being involved.
So we talked to all of them just to
Find if they were witnesses.
And the canvass ended up revealing really nothing.
Nobody heard anything.
♪ ♪
- Detectives also look for clues
In jamie's cell phone records and activity on social media.
It ends with her post at 11:08 p.M. On new year's eve.
- There was nothing there.
This is the last communication she has.
There is no usage of her phone, no private messages or dms.
♪ ♪
- Meanwhile, investigators get the answer
They are hoping for regarding the apartment
Complex's security cameras.
They were working, and the video is available.
- Detectives immediately retrieve the video,
And they start to pick it apart.
♪ ♪
- It's a situation where you're waiting with bated breath
To see, is our perpetrator going to show himself to us?
♪ ♪
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Sioux falls detectives are poring through security
Footage from jamie wounded arrow's apartment complex
Frame by frame hoping to find clues about what
Happened in her final moments.
- You have to watch every second of it,
Because you don't know what's going to be missed.
♪ ♪
- The video shows jamie arriving home
At 8:30 p.M. On new year's eve.
The investigators don't see anything
Unusual in the footage after that
Until several hours later.
- We had surveillance footage that showed
A person arriving to her apartment complex
At around 3:30 in the morning.
♪ ♪
- About two minutes after that, you see him walk back
And out the apartment complex.
About a minute or two later, he reappears and comes back
To the entry of the apartment complex,
Walks down the stairs to what is jamie's apartment,
And then is seen again an hour and 10 minutes later
Exiting the apartment complex.
- Investigators believe they are looking at jamie's killer.
He is the only person seen on surveillance
During the window of time in which jamie was murdered.
- It was like hitting a jackpot.
You can't believe how lucky you are,
How lucky that the cameras were recording,
That the footage was still there,
That it captured our suspect.
- But the video doesn't give the investigators a clear look
At the man's face.
Still, what they see leads them to believe
This is possibly someone who jamie knows.
♪ ♪
- The suspect knocked on the door for a significant amount
Of time, received no response.
♪ ♪
He walked out, walked around the apartment complex,
Banged on her window, woke her up.
He came back in, and she let him in the house.
It's highly unlikely that he's a stranger.
♪ ♪
- When he arrived to jamie's apartment,
He was wearing basketball shorts,
Sneakers, and a sweatshirt.
♪ ♪
His appearance changed when he
Came out of jamie's apartment sometime
After 4:40 in the morning.
♪ ♪
- What they see next convinces detectives
They are indeed looking at jamie's killer.
- And you could read that this was a sweatshirt that
Said peabody energy on it.
And it appeared to me that the sweatshirt was bloody.
I'd go so far as to say blood-soaked.
♪ ♪
When you're looking at video and you see someone enter
And when he exits, he's blood-soaked,
You start to key in on that.
♪ ♪
- Then we see him walk over to a hill with a grove of trees.
And he starts throwing things into this little ravine,
And then he disappears from view.
[sirens wailing]
- Officers rush to the ravine behind the apartment complex
And begin searching the area.
- We found jamie's clutch purse with jamie's id
And social security card in it and a debit card.
There was no money in it.
We don't know if he had taken money out of it,
But he certainly had not taken the debit card out of it.
♪ ♪
- As they investigate, detectives
Also ponder potential motives for the vicious attack.
♪ ♪
- In my mind, there was some motive besides robbery.
We thought it was unlikely that it was a random
Act of violence given that we had seen the perpetrator's
Behavior on the surveillance footage,
And he appeared to know his victim.
Investigators wondered whether jamie's status
As a trans female was a motive here.
It certainly could have been, so we had to look at it
As if it was potentially a hate crime.
- I remember on the news they kept saying she's now
The second or third transgender woman in the united states
To be killed on new year's.
It was-- it was a shock.
[gentle piano music]
- Searching for any evidence to support that possibility
Or point to a different motive for this murder,
Detectives begin a deep dive into jamie's background.
They quickly uncover some troubling information
About her past.
- She battled addiction.
She had had some run-ins with the criminal justice system.
♪ ♪
So she had a lot of struggles.
She was battling through them and doing
The best that she could.
[tense music]
- The investigators learn that jaime's struggles
Included a conviction for drug possession.
As a result, the court had ordered her
Into a treatment program.
- She had been to the arch, which is a halfway house
In sioux falls.
A halfway house means you're coming out of incarceration,
And they're trying to blend you back into society.
There's aa meetings.
There's any number of things that are geared
To get a person who's in that system
Back out into society.
But I knew from our investigation
That while she was at the arch,
She came into contact with many felons.
- We know that sometimes people who are in treatment
Use the connections they make at those facilities for good,
As we believe jaime did.
We also know people often use those connections for bad.
There were a number of red flags raised.
♪ ♪
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Homicide detectives wonder if someone jamie wounded arrow
Met during her stay at a halfway house
Might have been involved in her murder.
Looking for any connection,
They examined the data from jamie's missing cell phone.
And they find something unexpected.
♪ ♪
- We learned that two calls had been placed
After the time the likely perpetrator
Had left jamie's apartment.
She had already been killed.
So we knew it wasn't her using the phone.
It had to be the killer.
Law enforcement was able to determine that the first call
Was a misdial.
- We could see through the records.
We got ahold of this gentleman who had
Nothing to do with the case.
♪ ♪
- After the wrong number, the records
Show the second call from jamie's phone
Came at around 5:00 a.M. On new year's day
To a woman named brianna white butterfly.
- She told investigators
The call had been placed to her from her boyfriend.
She identified him by name-- joshua leclaire.
♪ ♪
She indicated to law enforcement
That she had been with him earlier in the night
On new year's eve and that he had left at some point
That night.
- They had argued.
He was drunk. And he had left the house.
And he did not have a phone.
And she was wondering whose phone he was using to call her
In the early morning hours.
[tense music]
- We learned joshua leclaire is a native american man who
Was raised on the pine ridge reservation
And in rapid city, south dakota.
He also had a conviction for first-degree burglary
From 2011.
He was sent to prison for that.
He was released on parole in 2016
But absconded, meaning he disappeared,
Ceased communications with his parole officer,
And had a warrant out for his arrest at the time jamie died.
- Joshua leclaire is now the prime suspect
In jamie's murder.
♪ ♪
And as detectives dig further into his past,
They find a clear connection between him and jamie.
- Joshua and jamie knew each other.
We know they had contact together at the arch
In sioux falls when both of them
Were going through treatment.
- There is obviously a connection there.
So we pull up jamie's facebook and see if she's
Friends with this guy.
And she was.
♪ ♪
- We know that they had some communications,
Though we're not sure of the extent of their relationship
And what it all entailed.
♪ ♪
- Investigators hope jamie's family can fill in some blanks
About the relationship.
- It started out as far as jamie helping with money
With $20 here and $20 here.
And I don't know if there was a relationship there or what,
But it started, because he was there also at the arch.
♪ ♪
- While joshua leclaire does seem
To resemble the man in the security video,
The footage is grainy, and detectives
Have no physical evidence linking him
To the murder or a motive for him to have killed someone
Who appears to be a friend.
- There was no evidence to show that josh
Held any ill will towards her.
None of this makes sense.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- The investigators are ready to confront joshua to see
If he can clear things up.
- We immediately put out what we call a bolo,
Or be on the lookout, for josh.
[siren wailing]
♪ ♪
- As they search for him, detectives also
Track down his friends and press them
For leads on his whereabouts.
- Law enforcement started with joshua's immediate circle--
His girlfriend, friends who knew him,
Perhaps friends who had spent time with him in the days
Leading up to jamie's murder.
That led them to one of joshua's friends
Who had spent time with him on new year's eve.
- The friend, roscoe poor bear,
Has an unexpected and stunning story to tell.
- Roscoe poor bear told law enforcement
He had in fact been with joshua on the early morning
Hours of new year's day.
Roscoe noticed that joshua was wearing a bloody sweatshirt
And saw joshua throw the sweatshirt into a dumpster
At a construction site.
[sirens wailing]
They were able to go to the construction site,
And they found the sweatshirt
Just where roscoe said it would be.
♪ ♪
- The bloody sweatshirt appears to be
The same one worn
By the man in the surveillance video
From jamie's apartment complex.
- To be able to see the logo of that sweatshirt
On the camera,
To find that sweatshirt in a dumpster
When a witness had said, this is where joshua leclaire threw
This sweatshirt, that was a very important
Part of the case to see that.
♪ ♪
- As they send the sweatshirt
To the forensics lab for testing...
[sirens wailing]
Police also send the search for joshua leclaire
Into high gear.
- At this point, efforts to locate joshua
Are ramping up significantly with statewide law enforcement
To check all corners of the state
For locations joshua may possibly be.
The concern was, has he fled?
- Anytime you have-- especially a homicide
Suspect who's on the run,
Who is also on the run from parole--
You still wonder what his mindset is.
Is this an isolated incident?
What's he capable of?
♪ ♪
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- A search is underway in south dakota
For joshua leclaire,
The prime suspect in the murder of jamie wounded arrow.
He's been on the run for two days.
And investigators have no leads to where he could
Be hiding until sioux falls police respond
To a routine call for help.
[sirens wailing]
- Local law enforcement were called to a report
Of an intoxicated person.
They thought this was a call of a drunken disorderly person
Who needed to go to detox.
Police show up, and initially
They don't know who they're speaking to,
Because the man gives them a false name.
[tense music]
- He lied about who he was.
Patrol officers didn't know going in
That they were dealing with josh leclaire.
♪ ♪
- But once the officers arrest him
For creating a public disturbance,
They discover his true identity.
Homicide detectives rush to the station to interrogate
Him about jamie's murder.
♪ ♪
- When detective bakke got joshua into the interview
Room, he was intoxicated.
And detective bakke knew that he
Had to buy himself some time.
He offered joshua coffee, offered him cigarettes
In an effort to help him sober up.
♪ ♪
- As soon as the detective sits down with his suspect
Something catches his eye.
- Joshua had a significant laceration on his palm.
- We knew based on the nature of jamie's wounds
That the kitchen knife was the murder weapon.
♪ ♪
And joshua leclaire's injury was
Consistent with using a knife to stab another person.
Detective bakke smartly didn't mention it
For a number of hours.
It was there.
He saw it.
And he waited for the right opportunity
To talk to joshua about it.
♪ ♪
- You come and confront him, there's going
To be an immediate denial.
It's human nature.
And it's getting by that denial.
It's working around that denial and getting to the truth.
That's what takes time.
♪ ♪
He didn't ever deny knowing jamie.
He didn't deny going to her apartment.
He simply used the excuse that he was blackout drunk
And could only remember bits and pieces
Of why he was there
And what had happened during the interaction.
♪ ♪
- But detective bakke continues to press him
Harder and harder.
- We started to broach the fact that he was in the apartment
And there was a fight.
- Joshua said that he and jamie had
Argued over a pair of shoes, but joshua's excuse
Didn't make sense.
The brutality of her murder was not consistent
With an argument over shoes.
♪ ♪
- As I began to press a bit, josh eventually
Did say that he got the cut on his hand from stabbing jamie.
[tense music]
- This was a confession.
This meant, on top of all of the other evidence
We had to that point, we had an admission.
He is the killer.
♪ ♪
- The evidence in this case, it was stacked.
♪ ♪
- We had surveillance footage showing joshua leclaire
Had been to jamie's apartment.
♪ ♪
We saw him on video throwing items
Of jamie's into the ravine.
♪ ♪
We knew he had an injury to his hand,
Which could only have been caused
By stabbing someone repeatedly
And the knife sliding up his palm.
We knew from roscoe poor bear that joshua
Had the same sweatshirt we saw him
Wearing at jamie's apartment, only when roscoe saw it,
It was bloody.
♪ ♪
- And when the lab results come in,
They show the blood on the sweatshirt
Matches both joshua leclaire and jamie wounded arrow.
- All of that, along with joshua's confession,
Left no doubt in anyone's mind that he was the killer.
♪ ♪
We don't know if joshua panicked
After he killed jamie.
He did some things which seem counterintuitive.
He left the knife.
He took her ids but left his blood.
- To a casual observer, someone who watches
Crime show tvs, they would question,
Why would the suspect do that?
Well, the biggest factor in my opinion
Is that this person's never killed before.
It doesn't make sense, because it can't make sense.
- What we do know is that he did enough in his mind
To try to avoid getting caught.
♪ ♪
- On January 8, 2017, sioux falls police
Charged joshua leclaire with first-degree murder
For the stabbing death of jamie wounded arrow.
But even after a long interrogation,
Investigators still don't know his motive
Or what happened to jamie in her final moments.
- In regards to the transgender portion
Of this case and potential hate crime, it simply wasn't there.
- In my opinion, the brutality of the crime
Certainly indicated that joshua knew jamie
And that he was motivated by some sense of hatred,
Even if not necessarily based on her status
As a trans woman.
We don't know if he made advances toward her
That were rejected or a drunken fight
Of some sort, an argument.
Just the viciousness of the attack
Signaled to me that there was something deeper beyond just
A casual acquaintanceship.
♪ ♪
- Faced with the overwhelming evidence against him,
Joshua leclaire pleads guilty.
But before the court can hold a sentencing hearing,
The confessed killer drops a bombshell.
- At his pre-sentencing interview,
Joshua leclaire gave information
That changed everything.
♪ ♪
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Joshua leclaire has pleaded guilty to stabbing
Jamie wounded arrow to death in her sioux falls apartment.
He's never said why he did it.
But before he can be sentenced,
He makes a stunning claim.
- He told the investigator that there
Had been a sexual advance made towards him.
And jamie had grabbed a knife.
And he had defended himself.
♪ ♪
- At first, he said there was an argument over shoes.
It wasn't until his sentencing was
Looming that he said jamie had made a sexual advance
Toward him, that he felt threatened by it,
And he stabbed her in self-defense.
♪ ♪
It was offensive, frankly, to have joshua try
To shame jamie in this way.
There were no indications that she had
Made any advances toward him.
- I don't believe it to be true in any way, shape, or form.
I believe that's a person who's at the end of the road
And is about to be sentenced is going to say anything.
♪ ♪
- The only person here who had defensive wounds
To her hands and her forearms
Was jamie, whereas joshua had none of that.
The only wound joshua had was the injury
To his palm which was as a direct result of stabbing
Jamie so many times.
At this point, we felt joshua leclaire
Was kind of like an animal backed into a corner.
It's not unusual for defendants to shame
The victim before sentencing.
At the same time, we had to wonder
Whether the sentencing judge would consider it as true.
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- The answer comes on June 26, 2018,
When joshua leclaire appears in court
For his sentencing hearing.
- Joshua asked for a lenient sentence,
But he spoke about jamie in the abstract
As if he didn't know her.
He said something to the effect of no one
Deserves to be killed this way when
He was the one who did it.
It showed a remarkable sense of selfishness
And a lack of true remorse.
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- I just remember being there.
And I remember seeing him.
And I just kind of looked over like this.
And I remember it was like--
It was real.
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- When it's somebody that you love, it's anger.
It's sadness.
It's a lot of emotions.
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And in my statement there, I did mention that he
Should rot in prison, too.
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- The judge rejects the claim of self-defense
And sentences 27-year-old joshua leclaire
To 65 years in prison.
- Making him an old man by the time he gets out.
It is, for all intents and purposes,
A life sentence for him.
- This individual that took our sister's life,
Our baby sister's life,
He got, you know, what was given to him.
So that was a tough thing to do to be sitting in front
Of that male who did that.
I think I cried for, I felt like, forever.
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- For jamie's loved ones, the outcome is bittersweet.
- They were overjoyed that justice
Had been done in spite of what had been done to jamie.
But there was a sense of dissatisfaction
In that joshua never really told the whole story.
And we'll probably never know the real reason he was there
And what happened between them.
[gentle music]
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- I really miss seeing how happy
She was when she started accomplishing
Some of her goals, a sense of happiness.
Yes, I did it.
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- There's a lot of what-ifs
With jamie's life being cut short
And my mom having dementia.
It wasn't just that one time that I
Had to break the story to her.
It was every time that I went to go visit her.
I would have to tell her each time
That it was jamie that was gone,
And each time that brought tears to our eyes.
And we had to relive it.
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People who go through this, you have to have strength
Within yourself to continue on, to live your life also,
To live for them.
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