1 00:00:00,433 --> 00:00:03,567 When I moved in there, the dog was pooping everywhere. 2 00:00:03,767 --> 00:00:06,133 Why was that mess behind the couch? Why? 3 00:00:06,567 --> 00:00:08,500 Now when I moved in that table was brand new. 4 00:00:08,633 --> 00:00:11,100 They would always talk about how I was the one leaving dirty dishes. 5 00:00:11,166 --> 00:00:12,533 Go to the one with the dishes please. 6 00:00:12,633 --> 00:00:14,633 I was tired anyway, it's been a long day. 7 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:15,867 You go right ahead. 8 00:00:15,934 --> 00:00:18,233 [Narrator] Today on Tribunal Justice. 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,300 This case was filed in Houston, Texas. 10 00:00:42,633 --> 00:00:44,834 Your Honor, this is case number 1132 on the calendar 11 00:00:44,900 --> 00:00:47,367 in the matter of Dehn versus Greenwald. 12 00:00:47,633 --> 00:00:49,867 Parties have been sworn in. You may be seated. 13 00:00:50,333 --> 00:00:51,300 Thank you, Byrd. 14 00:00:51,467 --> 00:00:55,233 Mr. Dehn, Mr. Greenwald, you both are from outta state. 15 00:00:55,533 --> 00:00:58,100 You met while you were both working at Benihana restaurant. 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,400 You kind of hit it off because you were both from out of town. 17 00:01:01,567 --> 00:01:05,467 You decided at some point, Mr. Dehn, to ask the defendant to move in with you. 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,633 You say that he was living in a toxic home situation, 19 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:11,633 and you had a similar circumstance when you were growing up. 20 00:01:11,900 --> 00:01:16,300 Someone took you under his wing and you wanted to do the same for the defendant. 21 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,867 But, unlike you, the defendant, apparently, didn't listen, 22 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:23,100 and he had already signed with you a one-year lease. 23 00:01:23,734 --> 00:01:26,600 You said he came to you in December and said 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,734 that he could not pay the rent and he wanted to get out of the lease. 25 00:01:30,934 --> 00:01:35,133 You said you weren't gonna do that unless he paid two months rent, 26 00:01:35,233 --> 00:01:40,100 which would've been $3,260 and you wanted him to pay it all. 27 00:01:40,366 --> 00:01:44,333 - Plus pay his $815 rent for December. - Yes Ma'am. 28 00:01:44,467 --> 00:01:47,166 So, your position is that none of this living arrangement 29 00:01:47,233 --> 00:01:48,366 was what you expected? 30 00:01:48,433 --> 00:01:50,433 You knew that the plaintiff had a girlfriend, but you didn't think 31 00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:52,734 she was gonna move in with you three days later. 32 00:01:52,866 --> 00:01:55,300 She wasn't splitting the rent bill in third, which you thought 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,967 would've been helpful, but you were still paying 50% as one person, 34 00:01:59,066 --> 00:02:01,500 and they were paying 50% as two. 35 00:02:01,767 --> 00:02:04,567 A couple of months went by and they decided they wanted a dog. 36 00:02:04,633 --> 00:02:08,333 They agreed it would be a small dog, but instead they came home 37 00:02:08,467 --> 00:02:09,699 with a Rottweiler. 38 00:02:09,834 --> 00:02:12,367 And the Rottweiler chewed up your things? 39 00:02:12,633 --> 00:02:17,934 December 1st, you went to the plaintiff and said that you wanted out. 40 00:02:18,033 --> 00:02:19,533 You basically had an argument. 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,966 He wanted you to pay the full termination fee. 42 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:24,533 You said, "I'm not paying full termination fee." 43 00:02:24,867 --> 00:02:26,333 He left on December 6th. 44 00:02:26,466 --> 00:02:28,433 You left on December 7th, and you're not sure 45 00:02:28,533 --> 00:02:31,133 why you're just not splitting that equally if at all? 46 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,700 Right now, you owe him nothing. 47 00:02:32,867 --> 00:02:37,533 So, you are three people living in this home? 48 00:02:37,633 --> 00:02:39,400 Your girlfriend, you, and him. 49 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:42,466 Why would he have to pay half of the rent? 50 00:02:42,567 --> 00:02:45,800 My girlfriend wasn't living with us. She stayed like a couple nights a week 51 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:49,233 - 'cause she lived 45 minutes away- - I'm sorry that is not, Your Honor. 52 00:02:49,300 --> 00:02:51,800 - Okay, no interruption. - Yes, Ma'am. 53 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:53,500 Can you step up? Are you his girlfriend? 54 00:02:53,633 --> 00:02:54,533 I am. 55 00:02:54,867 --> 00:02:56,333 And so did you stay with him? 56 00:02:56,466 --> 00:02:58,934 So, I went, like, three to four nights out of a week. 57 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,500 But it wasn't, like, every single week, as he is my boyfriend. 58 00:03:02,567 --> 00:03:04,567 You were there. Come on, you are like so excited, 59 00:03:04,667 --> 00:03:06,900 I said, "Is he your boyfriend?" And you got a big smile on you. 60 00:03:06,967 --> 00:03:08,600 - Of course. - You stood up, you were all excited. 61 00:03:08,667 --> 00:03:11,333 So, believe me, you're not staying there just two nights every other week, 62 00:03:11,433 --> 00:03:13,166 or three nights every other week, you are there. 63 00:03:13,266 --> 00:03:16,266 So, I wasn't actually living with him. Like I said, I was living with my parents. 64 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:19,934 Um, but I was, um, sorry, I'm nervous as well. Um- 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,834 - I wanna say you don't seem nervous. 66 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:23,567 - [Creasey] Sorry. - You seem a little... 67 00:03:23,900 --> 00:03:28,133 Um, so we started to date, we like blah blah, blah. 68 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,466 Great, okay, you have a seat. 69 00:03:29,633 --> 00:03:31,600 Awesome. Thank you. 70 00:03:33,266 --> 00:03:34,466 Sorry I asked. 71 00:03:35,466 --> 00:03:38,266 Ask her how close her other job is to the address 72 00:03:38,367 --> 00:03:39,966 that was given of our apartment. 73 00:03:40,033 --> 00:03:41,700 I don't like surprises. Why don't you just tell me? 74 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,533 It was a whole five to eight minutes away from our apartment. 75 00:03:44,633 --> 00:03:49,900 Why would she work and live 45 minutes away to drive 45 minutes every single day- 76 00:03:50,133 --> 00:03:52,367 I think he learned a lot of lessons from you. 77 00:03:52,500 --> 00:03:54,300 I think that was an excellent point. 78 00:03:54,367 --> 00:03:57,867 So, now, what is it that you say that he's not learning from you? 79 00:03:57,966 --> 00:03:59,500 What are you trying to tell him that he's not learning? 80 00:03:59,567 --> 00:04:01,800 Well, he just wasn't financially responsible with his money. 81 00:04:01,867 --> 00:04:04,200 - He was partying all the time. - I think he's pretty responsible. 82 00:04:04,266 --> 00:04:07,233 He doesn't wanna pay half a rent when he's got two other people living there. 83 00:04:07,433 --> 00:04:09,400 On December 1st, he didn't have any money for the rent. 84 00:04:09,467 --> 00:04:12,533 That's why we terminated the lease. And that's why I wrote up the contract. 85 00:04:12,633 --> 00:04:14,233 And what is it that happens? 86 00:04:14,834 --> 00:04:17,600 Because there are messages, "Play the music lower." 87 00:04:17,767 --> 00:04:20,834 You know, you were being noisy, you were having friends over, 88 00:04:21,033 --> 00:04:22,166 what was going on? 89 00:04:22,233 --> 00:04:23,800 - And then he noticed the change in you. - What was I doing? 90 00:04:23,967 --> 00:04:25,433 - Yeah. What was going on? - Nothing changed. 91 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:28,033 If anything, I was worse when I moved in than when I moved out. 92 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:29,433 What did you think was wrong with you? 93 00:04:29,533 --> 00:04:31,200 - What do I think was wrong with me? - Yeah, what do you think? 94 00:04:31,266 --> 00:04:33,734 At the time of when I moved out of my parents, 95 00:04:33,834 --> 00:04:35,900 I'll agree that I had a drinking problem. 96 00:04:36,133 --> 00:04:39,400 I clinged to him. He came to me. He told me he wanted to teach me. 97 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:41,100 I told him I was ready to learn. 98 00:04:41,266 --> 00:04:44,933 When I moved in there, I thought I was gonna get a bigger brother per se. 99 00:04:45,066 --> 00:04:46,834 I was looking for that, I guess. 100 00:04:46,933 --> 00:04:50,000 I was looking for someone to actually be able to talk to and reach out to, 101 00:04:50,066 --> 00:04:51,367 I've never had that in my life. 102 00:04:51,467 --> 00:04:54,967 Well, you know, sometimes when we open up to people that are strangers, 103 00:04:55,133 --> 00:04:58,000 and he was a stranger, you open up your vulnerabilities, 104 00:04:58,066 --> 00:05:01,734 you make yourself available to be taken advantage of. 105 00:05:01,867 --> 00:05:05,200 But you were paying your rent all along. What happened that made you 106 00:05:05,266 --> 00:05:06,967 at that point say you wanted out? 107 00:05:07,033 --> 00:05:10,000 The dog was pooping everywhere and they'd leave it behind the couch 108 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:11,100 and let it get dry. 109 00:05:11,166 --> 00:05:12,233 The puppy pads. 110 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:14,033 If you look at the evidence photos that I showed. 111 00:05:14,100 --> 00:05:15,200 Is that what I was looking at? 112 00:05:15,266 --> 00:05:17,800 That's puppy pads, sticky adhesive that they'd leave on the ground. 113 00:05:17,867 --> 00:05:18,834 - [DiMango] So do we have that? 114 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:20,867 They would leave that that was on the floor. 115 00:05:20,934 --> 00:05:23,533 - That's what you're referring to, right? - That is what I'm referring to. 116 00:05:23,633 --> 00:05:26,266 You see the poop on the ground that they attempted to clean up, 117 00:05:26,332 --> 00:05:27,200 but didn't. 118 00:05:27,332 --> 00:05:30,233 They moved out before I did. That adhesive was still there. 119 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:32,200 Why was that mess behind the couch for four months? 120 00:05:32,266 --> 00:05:34,700 These are interesting questions to which I have no answer. 121 00:05:34,767 --> 00:05:36,266 I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 122 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,000 I know you don't have the answers, but you're asking. 123 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,734 Like, and, then, if you look, like they would always talk about 124 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,332 how I was the one leaving dirty dishes. 125 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,767 Go to the one with dishes, please. 126 00:05:45,933 --> 00:05:47,734 I think you learned an awful lot. 127 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,467 (audience laughing) 128 00:05:49,567 --> 00:05:53,200 I'm just gonna say, I was tired anyways. It's been a long day. You go right ahead. 129 00:05:53,266 --> 00:05:54,166 Your Honor, I appreciate you. 130 00:05:54,233 --> 00:05:56,066 Yeah. This photograph, what are we looking at? 131 00:05:56,133 --> 00:05:58,867 Alright, so you see the wine glass? Do I look like a wine drinker to you? 132 00:05:58,933 --> 00:06:00,500 - No, I'm a beer drinker. - How would I know? 133 00:06:01,033 --> 00:06:03,033 You see this gullet? You see this stomach? 134 00:06:03,100 --> 00:06:05,033 [DiMango] So is it beer? Is that what you're telling me? 135 00:06:05,100 --> 00:06:06,700 Yeah, it's obviously a beer gut. 136 00:06:06,834 --> 00:06:08,567 And whose table is that? Whose things are that? 137 00:06:08,633 --> 00:06:09,667 - Yeah, that's my table. - That's yours? 138 00:06:09,734 --> 00:06:11,533 - Yes, that's my table. - That's how it was all the time. 139 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,333 Okay, so at least you're taking responsibility for your mess. 140 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,266 That's a big mess in a common area. 141 00:06:16,467 --> 00:06:18,934 But the point is, you didn't want him there. 142 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,033 You were throwing him out in October. It's in your papers. 143 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:23,100 - You said... - No, I wasn't. 144 00:06:23,266 --> 00:06:24,734 No? Can I read it for you? 145 00:06:25,033 --> 00:06:25,900 - Yeah, sure. - Okay. 146 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:29,834 "In October of 22, I started to notice a huge shift in his behavior. 147 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:33,266 He acted very crazy. He got angrier the more he partied. 148 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,433 I knew it was time for us to part ways." 149 00:06:35,533 --> 00:06:37,767 - Yes. - "I confronted him about moving out. 150 00:06:37,967 --> 00:06:41,800 He didn't take it too well. He yelled at me and stormed off." 151 00:06:42,266 --> 00:06:43,667 What happened then? 152 00:06:43,867 --> 00:06:45,266 [Dehn] You know how he said his drinking got? 153 00:06:45,332 --> 00:06:46,200 - Yeah, I heard him. - Better to worse. 154 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:49,100 He got worse after he moved in. 155 00:06:49,367 --> 00:06:51,600 He didn't get better over time. He got a DUI. 156 00:06:51,867 --> 00:06:55,300 You know what I think the problem is, that you wanted to do something. 157 00:06:55,367 --> 00:06:58,233 You know, you could lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. 158 00:06:58,300 --> 00:07:01,033 Yeah, I was just being nice and nice and then I was the hand... 159 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,066 But you're not his dad. You know, you're a young man. 160 00:07:04,133 --> 00:07:06,233 I know, but I see myself in him because I saw how he was messing... 161 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:08,367 - But he's not you. He's not you. - Yeah. 162 00:07:08,633 --> 00:07:12,667 And he was not susceptible to your advice, if that's what you wanna say. 163 00:07:12,734 --> 00:07:15,900 And, on the other hand, maybe you were not the best example 164 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:17,500 of how somebody should live. 165 00:07:17,734 --> 00:07:18,633 On the other hand, 166 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,633 he seems to be pretty much in touch with both his weaknesses, 167 00:07:22,734 --> 00:07:24,033 at least to some extent. 168 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:30,200 And he has some strengths, which I see, based on his conversations in here 169 00:07:30,266 --> 00:07:32,567 and his cross examination of me. 170 00:07:33,066 --> 00:07:35,300 Yeah, exactly. But, but... 171 00:07:36,533 --> 00:07:39,000 But I wanna know about the rent. 172 00:07:39,166 --> 00:07:42,066 Show me why he should pay the full amount. 173 00:07:42,367 --> 00:07:44,567 The full amount of rent? Because he didn't pay me any rent 174 00:07:44,667 --> 00:07:45,667 for the month of December. 175 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:49,133 Before the lease terminated, I got him to sign this, 176 00:07:49,867 --> 00:07:52,633 which is the promissory note. Which is... 177 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:54,667 - Can I see that, please? Thank you! - This is confirmation that... 178 00:07:54,767 --> 00:07:57,834 This is confirmation that he's the reason we're terminating the lease, 179 00:07:57,967 --> 00:07:59,700 and I was actually gonna do something nice for him. 180 00:07:59,900 --> 00:08:03,734 I put it in a way that he could pay me 300 bucks every single week 181 00:08:03,834 --> 00:08:06,533 for a certain amount of time until he paid me back that 3260, 182 00:08:06,667 --> 00:08:08,734 because he's the reason we're terminating the lease. 183 00:08:09,166 --> 00:08:11,400 - So, that's the reason why I'm asking... - No, Your Honor, that isn't... 184 00:08:11,467 --> 00:08:13,200 I'm getting to that. That is my signature. 185 00:08:13,266 --> 00:08:15,533 The only reason I signed that, is 'cause if I did not sign that, 186 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,934 he was gonna call the cops on me and I would be behind bars. 187 00:08:18,066 --> 00:08:19,734 - For what? - Because I didn't pay anything. 188 00:08:20,066 --> 00:08:22,266 Wait, wait, wait, you want me to believe that if he called the cops 189 00:08:22,332 --> 00:08:24,033 they were gonna lock you up 'cause you didn't pay rent? 190 00:08:24,166 --> 00:08:25,567 That's, at that time, yes. That's what I believed. 191 00:08:25,633 --> 00:08:28,433 No. No you didn't believe that. You're smarter than that. 192 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,767 - So, Judge Levy. - Thank you. 193 00:08:31,433 --> 00:08:36,066 Did you really think that you were gonna go to jail if you didn't pay rent? 194 00:08:36,133 --> 00:08:38,299 Your Honor, I'm 100% honest with you. 195 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,265 With everything that I had going on right now, I had that DUI, 196 00:08:41,332 --> 00:08:43,100 I'm in the court system, everything like that. 197 00:08:43,165 --> 00:08:45,567 And they told me no matter what the ticket's for, 198 00:08:45,734 --> 00:08:47,266 yes, I fully believed that I would be behind bars. 199 00:08:47,333 --> 00:08:49,233 Are you in touch with your, with your folks? 200 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:50,433 I live with them at the moment. 201 00:08:50,533 --> 00:08:52,467 - Did you tell 'em about the DWI? - Yes. 202 00:08:52,567 --> 00:08:54,100 Uh, DUI not DWI. 203 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,233 Once for being drunk, once for being high. I was under the legal limit. 204 00:08:57,300 --> 00:08:59,800 Well, at least you know certain things. 205 00:08:59,934 --> 00:09:01,767 I suppose that's a good thing. 206 00:09:03,233 --> 00:09:06,400 Yeah, driving while intoxicated. Driving under the influence. 207 00:09:07,033 --> 00:09:10,166 You were communicating with your folks and you communicated with them about 208 00:09:10,367 --> 00:09:12,200 something that could put you in jail. 209 00:09:12,333 --> 00:09:15,600 That being the DUI, but not this brief? 210 00:09:15,734 --> 00:09:17,433 I communicated with my folks about this. 211 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:19,567 - And did they tell you that- - They told me not to sign it. 212 00:09:19,667 --> 00:09:21,333 Did they inform you that you couldn't go to jail? 213 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,934 No, they did not say anything around those lines. 214 00:09:23,033 --> 00:09:25,033 Did you tell them that you thought you can go to jail? 215 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:27,533 I told 'em I was scared to death about what was gonna happen next, yes. 216 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,967 - Well, that's different than... - Okay. 217 00:09:29,033 --> 00:09:31,300 Yes, I told them that I was scared I was gonna go to jail. 218 00:09:31,367 --> 00:09:34,233 - They said that- - About the rent, not about the DUI. 219 00:09:34,433 --> 00:09:36,867 The DUI is already handled. I had already gone to court. 220 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,867 I had gone to court, got my sentence, got the community service, 221 00:09:39,934 --> 00:09:41,200 everything that I needed, right? 222 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:45,066 But they told me that for the next six months, no matter what ticket I get, 223 00:09:45,165 --> 00:09:48,200 as long as I get a ticket, I'm gonna be right back there. 224 00:09:48,266 --> 00:09:49,834 Okay. I get it. I get it. 225 00:09:49,934 --> 00:09:51,900 That scared me a lot more because- 226 00:09:51,967 --> 00:09:54,333 Well, the only reason why I'm asking is the issue of duress. 227 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,934 Signing contracts under duress 228 00:09:56,300 --> 00:09:58,633 I'm not quite convinced of it yet, but that was just one issue. 229 00:09:58,700 --> 00:10:00,900 - We got lots of others. - Sorry, your Honor, 230 00:10:00,967 --> 00:10:03,867 can I talk about how he told me that he was gonna get physical with me 231 00:10:03,934 --> 00:10:05,100 - if I didn't sign it? - [Levy] I'm not interested in that. 232 00:10:05,166 --> 00:10:06,467 - I'm not interested with that. - You're not? Okay. 233 00:10:06,533 --> 00:10:09,033 - No, we got bigger fish to fry. - Then let's start frying. 234 00:10:11,467 --> 00:10:13,200 Alright, well that's pretty good. 235 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,400 I can understand why things were a little heated. 236 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:17,900 I get that. 237 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:20,934 [Narrator] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 238 00:10:21,333 --> 00:10:24,266 If your dog chews up somebody's property, 239 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,700 then there should be some consequences to that. 240 00:10:26,767 --> 00:10:28,367 Then lemme use his evidence against him. 241 00:10:28,433 --> 00:10:30,867 - Pull up that table, please. - Pull up that table please. 242 00:10:30,967 --> 00:10:32,767 - Can I walk? - Stay there. Stay there. 243 00:10:32,834 --> 00:10:35,467 - You stay there. Pull up that table. - It's my table. 244 00:10:42,467 --> 00:10:46,233 [Narrator] Christopher Dehn claims his former roommate, Logan Greenwald, 245 00:10:46,333 --> 00:10:49,467 owes for the cost of terminating the lease early. 246 00:10:49,700 --> 00:10:54,400 Logan says Christopher's girlfriend and their dog caused major problems. 247 00:10:54,567 --> 00:10:56,533 So, he had to move out. 248 00:10:56,767 --> 00:11:00,900 So, Mr. Dehn, you saw yourself as, uh, 249 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,467 the big brother or parent figure in the friendship with the defendant. 250 00:11:05,533 --> 00:11:06,433 Would that be fair to say? 251 00:11:06,533 --> 00:11:09,600 Mm-hmm, I just wanted to show him how to save his finances. 252 00:11:09,667 --> 00:11:12,567 I get it, because you saw yourself as better at finances. 253 00:11:12,633 --> 00:11:14,200 - Yeah. - And more mature with that. 254 00:11:14,266 --> 00:11:15,900 - Mm-hmm - And having been through it before. 255 00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:17,867 - Mm-hmm. - So more worldly, uh-uh! 256 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,333 - More worldly in that sense. - Yeah. 257 00:11:21,033 --> 00:11:26,700 So, with all that, Mr. Smarty Pants, you thought that you were gonna be tagged 258 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,533 with a termination fee of 3,200 and how much? 259 00:11:31,667 --> 00:11:32,533 - $60. - 60. 260 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,867 $60 from the leasing company when there is no such provision 261 00:11:38,100 --> 00:11:40,834 in the contract that you signed with them? 262 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:42,233 Because- - Hold on. 263 00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:45,734 I just wanna make sure I got that right. So in other words, so we're all clear. 264 00:11:46,066 --> 00:11:47,967 - [Dehn] Can you reiterate that? - Yeah. Sure. 265 00:11:48,033 --> 00:11:50,000 So, here's the contract that you guys signed, right? 266 00:11:50,133 --> 00:11:51,000 - Mm-hmm. - Okay. 267 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:53,834 Real small. I spent a lot of time, I must have read it four times. 268 00:11:53,934 --> 00:11:55,533 - Mm-hmm. - 'Cause what am I looking for? 269 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,066 - The third blank space. - Termination fee. 270 00:11:57,133 --> 00:11:58,533 - [Levy] I'm looking for- - Yeah. 271 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,600 [Levy] I'm looking for the lease termination fee, Mr. Smarty pants. 272 00:12:01,667 --> 00:12:03,467 - Yeah. - But I don't see it in here. 273 00:12:03,700 --> 00:12:05,767 We both didn't see it. That's why we went down there and asked- 274 00:12:05,834 --> 00:12:08,367 What do you, so what? Listen, if they told you, "Oh, by the way, 275 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:12,333 um, gentlemen, there was a $10,000 termination fee. 276 00:12:12,633 --> 00:12:15,433 I'm really sorry we didn't put it in the lease." 277 00:12:15,700 --> 00:12:16,567 Yeah. 278 00:12:16,667 --> 00:12:20,600 But, but, but you know what? That's how we do things here. 279 00:12:21,033 --> 00:12:23,233 Do you really think that that was gonna be enforceable? 280 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:24,467 I would've had issue with that, 281 00:12:24,533 --> 00:12:27,800 but two months rent and a 30-day notice sounds a lot more. 282 00:12:27,867 --> 00:12:31,000 You know what? I wanna see your payment for- 283 00:12:31,133 --> 00:12:34,533 - The 3260? - Well, no, not for 3260. 284 00:12:34,900 --> 00:12:37,900 Mmh, 3260 is two months rent. I'm not interested in that. 285 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,767 I wanna see where it's specifically earmarked as lease termination fee. 286 00:12:43,333 --> 00:12:46,066 Lease termination. 287 00:12:48,033 --> 00:12:50,066 - No, I don't, I don't have it. - Yeah. 288 00:12:50,233 --> 00:12:51,734 - Yeah. - Yeah, you don't have. 289 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,467 So, you think I'm making up a number of the 3260 or? 290 00:12:54,533 --> 00:12:56,433 I'm not saying whether you're making it up or not. 291 00:12:56,734 --> 00:13:01,400 What I'm saying to you, that if in fact you were in breach of the lease, 292 00:13:01,734 --> 00:13:05,467 you could've all got kicked out because it's something you chose to do. 293 00:13:06,166 --> 00:13:07,800 Do you think he still has to pay for that? 294 00:13:07,900 --> 00:13:09,600 - Because it's something I did? - [Levy] Yep. 295 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Yeah, I would assume the blame on myself. 296 00:13:12,066 --> 00:13:13,400 Good. Let's take a look at the lease. 297 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:16,934 First page under pet qualifications. 298 00:13:17,066 --> 00:13:19,500 Breeds not permitted in the community include, 299 00:13:19,700 --> 00:13:21,533 but are not limited to Rottweilers. 300 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:22,734 He's a Black Lab. 301 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,233 - You know what, now you can step up. - Thank you. 302 00:13:25,333 --> 00:13:27,333 Okay, so the fact is, 303 00:13:27,734 --> 00:13:31,066 you are in violation of the lease because you have a dog. 304 00:13:31,333 --> 00:13:33,567 Even if it's a 10th of it is a Rotty. 305 00:13:33,734 --> 00:13:35,400 I'm so sorry, but he's literally a Black Lab. 306 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:38,834 I have, we have documentation from the vet that he's a Black Lab. 307 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:40,567 - Where we adopted him from. - Ask for it. 308 00:13:40,633 --> 00:13:43,300 - He doesn't know what he's talking about. - You should go to law school. 309 00:13:43,567 --> 00:13:45,700 - He has no idea. - Lemme see a photograph of this dog. 310 00:13:45,767 --> 00:13:47,100 - Please. - Here, I got you. 311 00:13:47,165 --> 00:13:48,800 - I got one pulled out for you. - Aah, Aah, you. 312 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:50,533 - One, one thing you know- - Are you sure? 313 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,367 - No. Hold on, hold on. - No come up here. 314 00:13:52,433 --> 00:13:53,300 Whoa, whoa, whoa. 315 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,333 The picture of whenever we first took it. 316 00:13:55,433 --> 00:13:56,900 - I have a picture. - Yes sir. 317 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,400 Only speak when you are spoken to, and don't- 318 00:13:59,467 --> 00:14:00,934 He was getting ahead of himself. That's all. 319 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:01,867 [Logan] Yeah. Yes sir. 320 00:14:01,934 --> 00:14:05,266 So, in the courtroom, just so you know, it's standard practice 321 00:14:05,700 --> 00:14:08,333 that the, uh, parties stay at the podiums 322 00:14:08,700 --> 00:14:10,700 'cause you don't want me coming down there and going in your face. 323 00:14:10,767 --> 00:14:12,400 - Yeah. - So it's mutual respect that way. 324 00:14:12,467 --> 00:14:14,734 - I apologize for that. - I know it wasn't meant 325 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,500 with anything other than just excitement on your part. 326 00:14:17,567 --> 00:14:20,100 If you can look at your phone and find it, and then, 327 00:14:20,166 --> 00:14:24,367 either officer Byrd or officer Cassandra could show it to me, but that's fine. 328 00:14:24,433 --> 00:14:25,600 A picture of it saying that's a Black Lab. 329 00:14:25,667 --> 00:14:27,133 - [Creasey] We have the vet- - [Dehn] Oh, the vet's file? 330 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,000 - Yeah, the vet's file. - The vet's file. Yeah. 331 00:14:30,533 --> 00:14:32,133 Oh yeah, that's it, right there. 332 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,400 Sorry, it's a little blurry. 333 00:14:36,533 --> 00:14:38,367 [Dehn] That's pictures from the shelter when we got him. 334 00:14:38,433 --> 00:14:40,233 [Creasey] When we first adopted him. 335 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:43,300 [Logan] And the picture I'm showing you is from two months after they adopted him. 336 00:14:43,367 --> 00:14:45,066 [Creasey] I can show you a current picture of today, he is- 337 00:14:45,133 --> 00:14:47,800 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Don't you have a Rotty? 338 00:14:48,133 --> 00:14:49,667 Oh, you had a Rotty. I'm sorry. 339 00:14:49,734 --> 00:14:51,667 You had a Rotty. How long? 340 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,400 Officer Cassandra, how long did you have a Rottweiler? 341 00:14:53,467 --> 00:14:54,400 Nine years. 342 00:14:54,500 --> 00:14:56,467 Can you take a look at the colors on that dog- 343 00:14:56,633 --> 00:14:57,900 - [Cassandra] Yeah. - And answer the question? 344 00:14:57,967 --> 00:14:58,934 - All Rottweiler have- - You know what? 345 00:14:59,033 --> 00:15:03,700 I'm going to deem Officer Cassandra an expert in Rottweilers 346 00:15:04,033 --> 00:15:08,166 and ask her as a result of her owning several- 347 00:15:08,266 --> 00:15:11,367 - Yeah. - Whether or not that dog has the features 348 00:15:11,433 --> 00:15:12,367 of a Rottweiler? 349 00:15:12,433 --> 00:15:14,734 - [Cassandra] It's, it's clearly a mix. - A mix 350 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,066 Because, um, a Black Lab would just be a Black Lab. 351 00:15:17,133 --> 00:15:19,033 - This has, uh, features of a Rott. - That's okay. 352 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:21,667 - At the shelter's, they are not allowed- - It's not a guarantee that he's mixed- 353 00:15:21,734 --> 00:15:23,500 - [Cassandra] Oh no, that's- - Let's get back the phones. 354 00:15:23,567 --> 00:15:25,834 Let me say this, that is indicative. 355 00:15:26,233 --> 00:15:28,533 - So, the paw prints- - [Dehn] Yeah. 356 00:15:28,633 --> 00:15:29,567 Indicative of Rott. 357 00:15:29,633 --> 00:15:30,800 - Yeah, but that show- - Ah 358 00:15:30,867 --> 00:15:32,800 Some other type of breed have those coating though. 359 00:15:32,867 --> 00:15:35,033 - Listen, we're not gonna devolve this. - Okay. 360 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:35,967 Okay. 361 00:15:36,033 --> 00:15:38,900 I've asked the questions. You've given answers. 362 00:15:39,066 --> 00:15:40,633 You've presented evidence. 363 00:15:40,867 --> 00:15:44,700 I'm very happy to hear that you acknowledge that if you breach 364 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,467 the terms and conditions of the lease, 365 00:15:47,667 --> 00:15:51,834 that he should not be financially responsible for that breach. 366 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,900 And with that, Judge Acker. 367 00:15:54,033 --> 00:15:56,000 That would be if you got thrown out. 368 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:58,000 - Were you evicted from the apartment- - No Ma'am. 369 00:15:58,066 --> 00:16:00,734 - Because of the breed of the stock? - No, Ma'am. 370 00:16:00,867 --> 00:16:03,300 - So, you can actually sit down dear. - Thank you. 371 00:16:03,767 --> 00:16:05,967 To me, the case is super simple. 372 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:08,400 Here's where the dog to me doesn't help you. 373 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,133 - When did you get the dog? - Um, I do not know. 374 00:16:12,233 --> 00:16:14,533 - Two months after we signed the lease. - Okay. 375 00:16:14,767 --> 00:16:16,233 That does not help you. 376 00:16:16,333 --> 00:16:20,233 Because if you think that I'm gonna say that you get to live for free 377 00:16:20,467 --> 00:16:22,867 because he broke a rule that didn't damage either of you. 378 00:16:22,934 --> 00:16:26,600 The landlord didn't say you gotta go because of the breed of this dog. 379 00:16:27,066 --> 00:16:31,033 You are looking for reasons why you do not have to fulfill your obligations. 380 00:16:31,166 --> 00:16:34,500 I have sat up here a long time and listened to you be very charming. 381 00:16:34,567 --> 00:16:37,266 - You're very charming. You're very smart. - Thank you. 382 00:16:37,333 --> 00:16:39,734 - I'm glad that, are you sober now? - Yes, Ma'am. 383 00:16:39,900 --> 00:16:44,333 Really. I mean, at your age, that's a hard disease to kick. 384 00:16:44,867 --> 00:16:49,000 So, my words to you have nothing to do with, 385 00:16:49,333 --> 00:16:53,233 I think, the great journey that you're on in trying to get your life together. 386 00:16:53,333 --> 00:16:54,367 - I appreciate it. - But- 387 00:16:54,467 --> 00:16:55,900 Excuse me Your Honor, can I say something? 388 00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:57,867 Yes, you can. Yes. 389 00:16:57,967 --> 00:17:01,533 My biggest hold up here is it sounds like his biggest form of evidence 390 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,834 that he has is that his girlfriend didn't live there. 391 00:17:03,934 --> 00:17:06,934 She was there more than I was there. I worked a 70 hour a week job. 392 00:17:07,032 --> 00:17:10,165 I was home what? A total of eight to 10 hours maybe. 393 00:17:10,233 --> 00:17:14,133 Yeah. I understand your point there, but my point to you is that 394 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,967 if they're sleeping in the same room, like, it's not... 395 00:17:17,099 --> 00:17:20,500 If she were taken up another room, if she were sleeping on the sofas, 396 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:25,834 the only additional expense that she might result in your incurring, 397 00:17:26,099 --> 00:17:30,033 would be utilities and the like. And I don't see any breakdown as to that. 398 00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:32,967 And, frankly, the only part of the utility bill 399 00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:36,567 that he's holding you liable for is the $72. 400 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,066 And I have a question about that. I've never seen a $72 bill. 401 00:17:40,166 --> 00:17:42,734 Every bill that I've ever paid to him, was over. 402 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,033 - Listen to me. Listen to me. - Can I intervene on that? 403 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:46,867 Let's just stop. Stop, stop. This is not a free for all. 404 00:17:47,033 --> 00:17:48,033 - I- - Yes Ma'am. 405 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:50,533 Judge Levy said you should go to law school. 406 00:17:50,633 --> 00:17:52,633 - And I'm not joking. - Well, I appreciate that. 407 00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:56,900 I really think that you have got, uh, you got some spark in you. 408 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,800 - Well, I appreciate that Ma'am. - But, but, that spark 409 00:17:59,934 --> 00:18:01,333 requires some discipline. 410 00:18:01,467 --> 00:18:03,400 - Yes Ma'am. - You need some discipline. 411 00:18:03,533 --> 00:18:05,867 So, hold on that spark. 412 00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:08,333 And, now, I wanna run through some other points. 413 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,800 Because I did breeze by a point with the Rottweiler, 414 00:18:12,233 --> 00:18:17,333 that is, or the Lab mix, or the whatever the dog is. 415 00:18:17,433 --> 00:18:19,500 - Yeah. - You said in your answer 416 00:18:19,700 --> 00:18:23,133 that the dog destroyed some of your property. 417 00:18:23,266 --> 00:18:25,400 - Yes Ma'am, he did. - So if you've got evidence 418 00:18:25,467 --> 00:18:28,033 of that property destruction, then I can say, you know what? 419 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:30,133 I don't care about the breed of the dog. 420 00:18:30,266 --> 00:18:33,867 I don't care if it's a beautiful standard Poodle or a beautiful Shih Tzu. 421 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,066 If your dog chews up somebody's property, 422 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,967 then there should be some consequences to that. 423 00:18:39,066 --> 00:18:41,100 Then let me use his evidence against him. 424 00:18:41,166 --> 00:18:43,567 - Pull up that table please. - Pull up that table please. 425 00:18:43,633 --> 00:18:45,333 - Can I walk- - You stay there. Stay there. 426 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,133 You stay there. Pull up that table. 427 00:18:47,233 --> 00:18:48,100 It's my table. 428 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,734 Let's pull up P1 and then you can show me what you wanna show me. 429 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,700 Look at the four corners of the table. 430 00:18:54,767 --> 00:18:56,633 Now, when I moved in that table was brand new. 431 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,100 - How come- - [Acker] It wasn't brand new, 432 00:18:58,166 --> 00:18:59,500 it was his grandmother's antique table. 433 00:18:59,567 --> 00:19:02,333 Now, you know grandma's Ma'am, you know how grandmas take care of stuff. 434 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,600 You know how that goes. 435 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,800 Like, you know, they have all that time throughout the day just sitting there. 436 00:19:07,867 --> 00:19:09,000 They're gonna keep everything clean. 437 00:19:09,100 --> 00:19:11,633 I mean, I just wanna, I'm gonna be super candid with you. 438 00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:14,000 - Yes Ma'am. - I am not terribly, uh, 439 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:17,233 persuaded by a lot of your legal points. 440 00:19:17,333 --> 00:19:20,734 But I need to not just be charmed by you, 441 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,500 but I have to really do justice to the case that they're bringing. 442 00:19:23,567 --> 00:19:28,033 Because they do have, I think some very valid points and some valid concerns 443 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,000 [Narrator] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 444 00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:33,467 But I want you to read this into the record 445 00:19:33,533 --> 00:19:37,567 as to how your payment was earmarked by the management company. 446 00:19:37,734 --> 00:19:41,533 "Your debit card statement will affect the payment as property payment rent." 447 00:19:41,633 --> 00:19:47,467 Rent, and then he ends up signing a promissory note for your rent. 448 00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:57,467 Now let's talk about that lease termination. 449 00:19:57,533 --> 00:19:59,667 - How many months were left on the lease? - Six. 450 00:19:59,834 --> 00:20:02,000 Six months. So you got a deal. 451 00:20:02,467 --> 00:20:04,734 You paid two months and a month's notice. 452 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,166 So instead of holding you liable for six months, 453 00:20:07,667 --> 00:20:09,467 you were only held liable for two months. 454 00:20:09,533 --> 00:20:12,600 - I didn't wanna get my credit dinged- - I mean that was smart. 455 00:20:12,834 --> 00:20:16,633 And the other thing I note about that promissory note, 456 00:20:16,934 --> 00:20:18,900 is he was attempting to work with you. 457 00:20:18,967 --> 00:20:21,533 He didn't say, you've gotta pay me all this money up front. 458 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,467 He was taking monthly payments. 459 00:20:24,033 --> 00:20:28,700 What I think you may be entitled to, if you've got evidence of it- 460 00:20:29,033 --> 00:20:32,066 In your answer you mentioned some property destruction. 461 00:20:32,133 --> 00:20:34,033 I have a pair of Beats Pro headphones. 462 00:20:34,233 --> 00:20:37,367 Those Beats Pros have bite marks on them from their dog. 463 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:40,266 He also chewed up a pair of Turtle Beach headphones that I had. 464 00:20:40,533 --> 00:20:42,734 Did your dog chew up some of his property? 465 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:45,266 - Uh, he chewed up Turtle Beaches. Yeah. - Good. 466 00:20:45,567 --> 00:20:48,266 What about the ottoman? Was there an ottoman that was destroyed? 467 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,767 Was it your ottoman that was chewed up? 468 00:20:50,834 --> 00:20:53,133 It was chewed up on the corners around the ottoman. 469 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,500 - And then the loveseat. - How much did you spend on the ottoman? 470 00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:57,633 Um, I stole it from my parents. 471 00:20:58,300 --> 00:20:59,433 Picked it up off the street. 472 00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:01,400 -I mean- - Ma'am, can I interject? 473 00:21:01,467 --> 00:21:02,600 No, wait a minute. 474 00:21:02,834 --> 00:21:06,834 That was, uh, a very candid admission. 475 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:10,300 That is the reason why I don't need to see your receipts. 476 00:21:10,367 --> 00:21:12,467 I can look up the cost of Beats 477 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:15,967 and I'll look up the cost of Turtle Beach headphones, 478 00:21:16,033 --> 00:21:19,266 'cause you know that your dog is chewing things up. 479 00:21:19,333 --> 00:21:20,834 I don't care what kind of breed it is. 480 00:21:21,166 --> 00:21:25,367 Uh, your case, your burden of proof. I will let you have the final word. 481 00:21:25,433 --> 00:21:29,300 My case is that as he said to you, he was working all these hours, 482 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,734 how come he was unable to pay his rent? 483 00:21:32,033 --> 00:21:33,300 You keep saying he didn't pay rent. 484 00:21:33,367 --> 00:21:35,834 There's one month for which he didn't pay rent. 485 00:21:35,934 --> 00:21:38,000 Like he wasn't a not-rent-paying loser. 486 00:21:38,266 --> 00:21:40,467 And, by the way, should I give him another discount 487 00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:42,467 because you guys didn't clean up after your dog? 488 00:21:42,934 --> 00:21:44,066 I mean, really. 489 00:21:44,633 --> 00:21:46,133 Judges, I'm quite done. 490 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,533 I just wanted to make one final clarifying points for myself. 491 00:21:49,633 --> 00:21:55,467 And it's to the plaintiff. That $3260 that you paid, 492 00:21:55,967 --> 00:21:59,800 You say it was specifically earmarked as the lease termination fee, right? 493 00:22:00,233 --> 00:22:02,300 - Yeah. - And it definitely was not rent. 494 00:22:02,467 --> 00:22:04,700 No. No, it was not. It was the termination. 495 00:22:04,767 --> 00:22:07,600 It was the lease termination. That's what it was earmarked as. 496 00:22:07,734 --> 00:22:09,400 - Mm-hmm. I paid the 3260- - [Levy] Great. 497 00:22:09,467 --> 00:22:12,667 And I paid it in full by myself at the beginning of the month. 498 00:22:13,066 --> 00:22:15,033 So, here's your evidence, I just circled, 499 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:17,367 and I want you to read this into the record 500 00:22:17,433 --> 00:22:21,934 as to how your $3,260 payment 501 00:22:22,166 --> 00:22:24,467 was earmarked by the management company. 502 00:22:25,333 --> 00:22:29,200 "Your debit card statement will affect the payment as property payment rent." 503 00:22:29,567 --> 00:22:30,433 Thank you. 504 00:22:30,633 --> 00:22:32,633 Rent. Your rent. 505 00:22:33,266 --> 00:22:38,000 And then he ends up signing a promissory note for your rent. 506 00:22:38,333 --> 00:22:40,700 Not for the lease termination fee. 507 00:22:40,767 --> 00:22:41,667 - It was paid. - I don't care. 508 00:22:41,734 --> 00:22:44,233 - But it was paid on- - I don't care, I don't care. 509 00:22:44,567 --> 00:22:45,533 I got nothing else. 510 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:47,734 We're gonna retire to deliberate. Thank you, all. 511 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,700 Wow. 512 00:22:49,233 --> 00:22:52,066 [Byrd] Court stands in recess. Parties are excused. 513 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,233 Alright, I'm going to give you my opinion about what the statement, 514 00:22:57,300 --> 00:23:01,166 when it says, "It was meant for rent." It really was meant for rent the 3260. 515 00:23:01,233 --> 00:23:04,834 It was meant for two months of rent that they were not going to be paying 516 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:06,400 when they were leaving early. 517 00:23:06,834 --> 00:23:11,266 I'd like to kind of stick with the responsibility being shared 518 00:23:11,367 --> 00:23:15,633 between the two of them with regard to that and with regard 519 00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:19,533 to the defendant admitting he owed the last month rent, the 815. 520 00:23:19,734 --> 00:23:21,800 And I think was there a utility bill that he was- 521 00:23:21,867 --> 00:23:24,000 - $72. - And $72 for that. 522 00:23:24,133 --> 00:23:26,333 I would be comfortable reimbursing the plaintiff for. 523 00:23:27,333 --> 00:23:30,200 I know that the defendant indicated that he was there 524 00:23:30,266 --> 00:23:32,934 when there were conversations had with the landlord. 525 00:23:33,266 --> 00:23:34,633 There's also no doubt in my mind. 526 00:23:34,700 --> 00:23:37,233 I believe the defendant testified honestly when he said he really thought 527 00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:38,867 he was gonna go to jail if he didn't pay rent. 528 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:44,200 To the extent that the defendant was misled into believing 529 00:23:44,266 --> 00:23:48,433 that he was responsible for $3,260 530 00:23:48,500 --> 00:23:51,233 for a lease termination fee based upon statements 531 00:23:51,533 --> 00:23:53,533 largely due to what the plaintiff said. 532 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:58,867 And as a result of that misrepresentation, the contract should be nulled and voided. 533 00:23:59,166 --> 00:24:03,367 I believe the defendant must pay 815. He has unpaid rent from December. 534 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,200 He admitted that he has to pay 852, and he has to pay the 72. 535 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:10,600 But the plaintiff has failed to meet his burden 536 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:13,333 with respect to the lease termination fee. 537 00:24:13,433 --> 00:24:16,633 Uh, with you on the rent and the unpaid power bill. 538 00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:18,467 With Pat on the termination fee. 539 00:24:18,667 --> 00:24:24,400 I would also give the defendant a credit because I think that kid is very candid. 540 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:28,500 Um, I credit for the dog chewing two pairs of headphones. 541 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,900 So, we have 2517 minus what? 300 for the headphones? 542 00:24:32,066 --> 00:24:35,600 149 and 199 on the Beats. 543 00:24:35,967 --> 00:24:36,934 And that's where we're at? 544 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,867 Adam's not coming along in this trip we're taking. 545 00:24:38,934 --> 00:24:40,333 That's okay. That's alright. 546 00:24:40,533 --> 00:24:44,066 I understand and I respect your positions, I just respectfully disagree. 547 00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:47,700 If I were to do it, I would only give him the 815 and the 72, 548 00:24:48,066 --> 00:24:51,066 but give him a credit for the damage caused by his dog. 549 00:24:51,133 --> 00:24:52,667 - So, you would've given him 537? - Yes. 550 00:24:53,033 --> 00:24:54,100 Very good. 551 00:24:56,900 --> 00:24:57,900 Court is back in session. 552 00:24:57,967 --> 00:24:59,767 Parties are reminded, you're still under oath. 553 00:24:59,867 --> 00:25:01,133 - Thank you, Byrd. - Mm-hmm. 554 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,433 The reality here is, for whatever all your issues were, 555 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:05,734 it just didn't work out. 556 00:25:05,967 --> 00:25:08,567 And we are a divided court. 557 00:25:08,633 --> 00:25:13,633 However, judge Levy is the dissenting opinion as to most of the issues 558 00:25:13,700 --> 00:25:14,567 in this case. 559 00:25:14,633 --> 00:25:19,367 Although he did feel that with regard to the December rent, 560 00:25:19,433 --> 00:25:21,834 that you were responsible for the December rent. 561 00:25:22,133 --> 00:25:25,500 Judge Acker and I also found you responsible for the December rent. 562 00:25:25,767 --> 00:25:31,300 However, we decided that the two of you were together when you negotiated 563 00:25:31,367 --> 00:25:35,133 with the landlord that he was going to only charge you two months rent. 564 00:25:35,567 --> 00:25:41,266 And we therefore found that we were gonna make you each 50% responsible on that. 565 00:25:41,333 --> 00:25:42,867 - So, you already paid both. - Mm-hmm. 566 00:25:42,934 --> 00:25:48,300 So, you'd pay $1,630 to him, you're gonna pay $815 to him, 567 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,200 and you're going to pay $72 for the utilities. 568 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:55,000 That would bring you down to 2,517. 569 00:25:55,066 --> 00:26:00,266 However, we believe that the Rottweilers-slash-whatever 570 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,700 chewed up your property and we did find evidence of its value. 571 00:26:04,767 --> 00:26:07,166 We've depreciated as such back to then. 572 00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:11,066 And we are going to reimburse you $350 for that. 573 00:26:11,166 --> 00:26:13,900 So, in total, he owes you 574 00:26:14,266 --> 00:26:18,333 - $2,167. - Cool. 575 00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:21,000 That is the verdict of the court. 576 00:26:21,166 --> 00:26:22,834 It is Judge Acker and my verdict. 577 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:26,033 And the two of you really, you seem like two men with potential. 578 00:26:26,433 --> 00:26:30,533 You have a good heart, you're a good man, but you should be doing something. 579 00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:32,533 Get yourself under control. 580 00:26:32,934 --> 00:26:38,133 When you cannot control your behavior, you're gonna lose in life, okay? 581 00:26:38,467 --> 00:26:41,166 And stop drinking and driving. That's the verdict of the court. 582 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:45,200 This case is now concluded. Parties are excused. You may step out. 583 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,433 I feel like they came to what I was trying to conclude with from the beginning. 584 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:53,700 That is the whole outcome that I was looking for. 585 00:26:53,767 --> 00:26:55,333 That is the whole reason we are here today, 586 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,100 'cause I was looking for half, I wasn't looking for at all. 587 00:26:58,266 --> 00:27:00,867 I wasn't looking for him to pay the whole anything. 588 00:27:00,967 --> 00:27:03,767 It wasn't gonna work out when he realized he wasn't gonna pay me the month 589 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,400 of December and then leaves me to pay 3260 in 30 days. 590 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,166 I was looking for him to own up and pay half of the lease agreement. 591 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:14,000 That is the whole reason that I'm here today. 592 00:27:14,066 --> 00:27:15,100 All in all, it's all good. 593 00:27:15,166 --> 00:27:16,900 We had to come up with four grand in a month. 594 00:27:16,967 --> 00:27:19,266 I did, personally, at least I got half that money back. 595 00:27:19,333 --> 00:27:20,467 So, at the end of the day, I'm happy. 596 00:27:20,533 --> 00:27:21,700 Don't live with strangers. 597 00:27:21,767 --> 00:27:23,834 He acts like he's all really nice, but he's a snake. 598 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,033 [Narrator] Did someone break your agreement? 599 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,100 Let Tribunal Justice decide your case. 600 00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:32,233 Find us on social media at Tribunal Justice.