1 00:00:00,166 --> 00:00:02,400 Whether I had a quarter, dime or nickel, 2 00:00:02,467 --> 00:00:03,934 I was going to Vegas. 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,633 [announcer] Today on Tribunal Justice. 4 00:00:06,700 --> 00:00:09,066 So this woman was basically gonna cover your trip. 5 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:11,333 -She offered all of this. -This is you, ma'am. 6 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,834 "Your so-called loan was a blessing." 7 00:00:13,900 --> 00:00:17,066 Usually we deal with, is it a gift or a loan? 8 00:00:17,133 --> 00:00:18,333 Now we've got to say, is it a gift, 9 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,633 a loan, or a blessing? 10 00:00:43,967 --> 00:00:45,066 [announcer] This case was filed 11 00:00:45,133 --> 00:00:46,834 in Toledo, Ohio. 12 00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:50,266 Your Honor, this is case # 1111, 13 00:00:50,333 --> 00:00:52,767 in the matter of Roy v. Harris. 14 00:00:52,834 --> 00:00:55,166 Parties have been sworn in. You may be seated. 15 00:00:55,233 --> 00:00:56,967 -[Patricia] Thank you, Byrd. -[Byrd] You're welcome, Judge. 16 00:00:57,033 --> 00:00:58,400 Miss Roy and Miss Harris, 17 00:00:58,467 --> 00:01:00,734 you used to be high school classmates. 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,934 You reunited a couple of years ago. 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,033 And you decided with five other girls-- 20 00:01:06,100 --> 00:01:07,266 There were seven in total. 21 00:01:07,333 --> 00:01:10,367 --to take a trip to Vegas this past October. 22 00:01:10,433 --> 00:01:12,000 As the time neared, however, 23 00:01:12,066 --> 00:01:14,834 you started to discuss with Miss Roy 24 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:17,867 the fact that you were having some financial difficulties. 25 00:01:17,934 --> 00:01:19,767 You didn't think you'd be able to make the trip. 26 00:01:19,834 --> 00:01:21,967 She said she'd give you $200. 27 00:01:22,233 --> 00:01:25,300 Left it in your mailbox with a note that said, 28 00:01:25,367 --> 00:01:26,600 "Be blessed." 29 00:01:26,667 --> 00:01:29,500 Which you say she agreed to repay 30 00:01:29,567 --> 00:01:31,934 on the Friday that she got her paycheck. 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,433 You, however, also decided to start the trip early. 32 00:01:34,500 --> 00:01:36,734 It was really a Thursday-through-Sunday trip. 33 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,967 But, Miss Roy, you booked a hotel before the air B&B 34 00:01:40,033 --> 00:01:42,400 and went down Tuesday/Wednesday. 35 00:01:42,667 --> 00:01:43,800 Some of the girls-- 36 00:01:43,866 --> 00:01:45,233 Three of them, including you. 37 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:48,300 --joined you at the hotel on that Wednesday evening. 38 00:01:48,366 --> 00:01:52,366 They were gonna divide the bill, pay you $75 a person. 39 00:01:52,433 --> 00:01:56,200 You start the trip, you go to a cannabis dispensary. 40 00:01:56,265 --> 00:01:59,366 You are asked by the defendant to loan you $25 41 00:01:59,433 --> 00:02:01,834 so that she could buy some cannabis. 42 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:04,100 She again promises she's gonna pay you on Friday. 43 00:02:04,166 --> 00:02:06,100 Friday comes and goes. 44 00:02:06,166 --> 00:02:07,400 You don't get any money from her, 45 00:02:07,467 --> 00:02:09,133 and you don't even get an acknowledgement 46 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:10,333 that there's a debt. 47 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,500 At some point, you confront her about this. 48 00:02:12,567 --> 00:02:15,567 She says, "Well, you know what? I don't even owe you money, 49 00:02:15,633 --> 00:02:19,533 because the $200 was a blessing from you." 50 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,567 Okay? So let's start with that. 51 00:02:21,633 --> 00:02:23,966 Because usually we deal with, is it a gift or a loan? 52 00:02:24,033 --> 00:02:25,466 Now we've got to say, is it a gift, 53 00:02:25,533 --> 00:02:27,066 -a loan, or a blessing? -[Harris] Mm-hmm. 54 00:02:27,133 --> 00:02:28,066 [spectators laugh] 55 00:02:28,133 --> 00:02:29,466 Mm-hmm. 56 00:02:29,533 --> 00:02:31,100 [Patricia] So let's start. 57 00:02:31,233 --> 00:02:34,100 You have to prove to us that this was money 58 00:02:34,166 --> 00:02:36,966 that you gave her with an intent to have her repay, 59 00:02:37,033 --> 00:02:39,567 and that she was in a position to repay you, 60 00:02:39,633 --> 00:02:42,233 so your expectation was reasonable. 61 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:44,767 -So you're on. Let's go. -[Roy] Your Honor, 62 00:02:44,834 --> 00:02:47,800 prior to the week going into Vegas, 63 00:02:47,867 --> 00:02:49,767 Miss Harris, or Antonette, 64 00:02:49,834 --> 00:02:51,066 we were talking on the phone, 65 00:02:51,133 --> 00:02:53,066 and she was telling me about the things 66 00:02:53,133 --> 00:02:55,300 that were coming up that was shortening the money 67 00:02:55,367 --> 00:02:58,433 that she had available to go to Vegas with. 68 00:02:58,500 --> 00:03:01,900 I offered to loan her $200, 69 00:03:01,967 --> 00:03:05,200 because actually, the air B&B was supposed to be booked 70 00:03:05,266 --> 00:03:08,433 on the Wednesday, but it wasn't booked accordingly 71 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:10,700 to what our original plans were. 72 00:03:10,767 --> 00:03:12,467 So I ended up getting a room. 73 00:03:12,533 --> 00:03:15,133 Now, you admit that you had a conversation with her 74 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,166 where you were saying all these other things popped up, 75 00:03:17,233 --> 00:03:18,934 and you had obligations. 76 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 And so you really didn't think you could make the trip. 77 00:03:21,066 --> 00:03:22,466 -Would that be correct? -Well, no. 78 00:03:22,533 --> 00:03:24,700 It's not that I wouldn't be able to make the trip, 79 00:03:24,767 --> 00:03:26,166 because the trip was already pair for. 80 00:03:26,233 --> 00:03:28,133 It was about spending cash. 81 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,767 -[Patricia] To do other things? -Yes. 82 00:03:29,834 --> 00:03:31,400 [Patricia] The dinners, and gifts, and whatever. 83 00:03:31,466 --> 00:03:33,800 Okay, so you give her the $200. 84 00:03:33,867 --> 00:03:35,200 And does she promise to pay you back? 85 00:03:35,266 --> 00:03:36,433 Yes, she does. 86 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:37,867 Do you have that in the messages here? 87 00:03:37,934 --> 00:03:38,900 [Roy] Yes, I do. 88 00:03:38,966 --> 00:03:40,100 Did you have them before 89 00:03:40,166 --> 00:03:41,734 you gave her the money, or after? 90 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,500 It was a conversation prior to her 91 00:03:44,567 --> 00:03:47,100 actually receiving the money. -[Patricia] Phone conversations? 92 00:03:47,166 --> 00:03:49,100 -[Roy] Yes. -[Patricia] No text messages? 93 00:03:49,166 --> 00:03:50,767 Uh, could have been a mixture of both. 94 00:03:50,834 --> 00:03:52,266 -Because we do both. -[Patricia] Okay. 95 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:54,100 So let me tell you what I have here. 96 00:03:54,166 --> 00:03:55,233 This is you, ma'am. 97 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,066 "Your so-called loan was a blessing 98 00:03:58,133 --> 00:03:59,800 "in your words, hon. 99 00:03:59,867 --> 00:04:02,333 "But throw slugs if you must. I called you back. 100 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,367 Enjoy your day." 101 00:04:04,433 --> 00:04:07,300 This is a fight over whether this is a blessing or not. 102 00:04:07,367 --> 00:04:09,300 There are several text messages, Your Honor 103 00:04:09,367 --> 00:04:13,066 that I have that Rachelle offered this $200. 104 00:04:13,133 --> 00:04:16,433 There was no way I was going to be able to pay anything back, 105 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:18,433 due to what was going on in my personal life. 106 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:20,867 [Patricia] What about the $25 for the cannabis? 107 00:04:20,934 --> 00:04:23,066 There was no $25 for the cannabis. 108 00:04:23,133 --> 00:04:25,734 There was no money given to me once I got to Vegas, 109 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,467 because she already gave me-- 110 00:04:27,533 --> 00:04:29,700 -What about the $75? -[Harris] There was no agreement 111 00:04:29,767 --> 00:04:31,367 to pay $75 on a hotel room, 112 00:04:31,433 --> 00:04:33,066 because she went down there two days-- 113 00:04:33,133 --> 00:04:35,100 So this woman was basically going to cover your trip, 114 00:04:35,166 --> 00:04:37,133 -and extras? -[Harris] No, Your Honor. 115 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,967 Like you said, she went down there Tuesday 116 00:04:39,033 --> 00:04:41,066 before we were supposed to be down there Thursday. 117 00:04:41,133 --> 00:04:42,266 She offered all of this. 118 00:04:42,332 --> 00:04:43,734 That's all I can say, Your Honor. 119 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,000 I have the text messages. 120 00:04:45,066 --> 00:04:46,834 [Patricia] Show me where you asked her for $75. 121 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:48,300 [Roy] I don't have the $75 122 00:04:48,567 --> 00:04:49,967 in the text message. 123 00:04:50,033 --> 00:04:52,166 I just have my itinerary that I had a room. 124 00:04:52,233 --> 00:04:53,166 When do you get paid? 125 00:04:53,233 --> 00:04:54,332 [Harris] Every two weeks. Fridays. 126 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,200 [Patricia] Yeah, well, how would she know that 127 00:04:56,266 --> 00:04:57,933 unless you promised to pay her back on Friday? 128 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,800 Because every one of your messages says, 129 00:04:59,867 --> 00:05:01,233 "I'll pay you back on Friday." 130 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:04,800 Your Honor, she offered me $200. 131 00:05:04,867 --> 00:05:07,100 Like I said, I have text messages to say it. 132 00:05:07,166 --> 00:05:09,033 When we came back from Vegas, 133 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:12,834 she turned the offer, the blessing, the gift, 134 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:14,467 whatever you want to call it, into a loan 135 00:05:14,533 --> 00:05:16,133 because she was upset-- 136 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,934 Well, how about I want to call it a loan? 137 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,066 Okay, that's fine, Your Honor. I'm not arguing with you. 138 00:05:20,133 --> 00:05:22,266 Whatever you want to call it. If you want to call it a loan. 139 00:05:22,332 --> 00:05:24,533 [Patricia] So I have something here 140 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,367 that's dated October 3rd, and this is the plaintiff. 141 00:05:27,433 --> 00:05:29,800 "After walking and thinking, 142 00:05:29,867 --> 00:05:32,667 "I'mma just stick with loaning the 200 to you." 143 00:05:34,533 --> 00:05:37,000 And then it says, "I thought that's what you were doing." 144 00:05:37,066 --> 00:05:39,100 -I'm not disputing that. -[Patricia] Well, therefore, 145 00:05:39,166 --> 00:05:41,133 if you're not disputing it's a loan, 146 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,166 what's the argument here? Why didn't you just pay her? 147 00:05:43,233 --> 00:05:45,467 Because it started out as a blessing, an offer, 148 00:05:45,533 --> 00:05:47,467 and now it's a loan when we come back from Vegas 149 00:05:47,533 --> 00:05:48,967 because of the stuff that went on. 150 00:05:49,033 --> 00:05:50,867 -[Patricia] Miss Harris! -Yes, ma'am. 151 00:05:50,933 --> 00:05:52,266 Enough. 152 00:05:52,332 --> 00:05:54,033 -[Harris] Okay. -Judge Levy. 153 00:05:54,100 --> 00:05:56,467 [Adam] Miss Roy, can you think of any reason 154 00:05:56,533 --> 00:05:59,900 Miss Harris would have thought that the $200 155 00:05:59,967 --> 00:06:02,433 was a gift from you and not a loan? 156 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:06,900 Because of a relationship I had with another gentleman. 157 00:06:06,967 --> 00:06:08,333 And I had loaned him some money, 158 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,433 and he didn't give me all my money back. 159 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:13,867 So I guess she figured that she's in the same position, 160 00:06:13,934 --> 00:06:18,066 that she can have the authority to have my money as well. 161 00:06:18,133 --> 00:06:19,433 So you're saying that she was aware, 162 00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:21,400 based upon a relationship with you, 163 00:06:21,467 --> 00:06:23,400 and her knowledge of your relationship 164 00:06:23,467 --> 00:06:25,867 with this other man, 165 00:06:25,934 --> 00:06:27,767 that there was money that you gave to him 166 00:06:27,834 --> 00:06:29,533 that was loaned to him, 167 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,767 and that's the reason that she thought it was a gift. 168 00:06:31,834 --> 00:06:33,233 -Not a loan, a gift. -[Roy] I guess so, sir. 169 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:35,166 Could you think of any other reason? 170 00:06:35,233 --> 00:06:36,700 I have no idea, 171 00:06:36,767 --> 00:06:38,834 because as she states in the text messages, 172 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:40,332 she's offering to pay me back. 173 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,633 [Adam] Did you know before you came in today 174 00:06:43,700 --> 00:06:46,533 that it was your friend's position, Miss Harris, 175 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,033 that this was a gift and it wasn't a loan, 176 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:52,133 and it was consistent with other gifts that you made 177 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,433 to other people? 178 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:54,867 Did you know that before you came in, 179 00:06:54,933 --> 00:06:56,066 that that was her position? 180 00:06:56,133 --> 00:06:57,900 I'm not saying that it was true. 181 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,600 But you knew that that was her position, right? 182 00:07:00,667 --> 00:07:02,166 Somewhat. I haven't-- Actually, 183 00:07:02,233 --> 00:07:04,400 this is the first time I've seen her since Vegas. 184 00:07:04,467 --> 00:07:07,433 I have not seen her since we left Vegas, so, no. 185 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:10,300 Miss Roy, I ask questions for a reason. 186 00:07:10,367 --> 00:07:11,734 -[Roy] Okay. -Right? 187 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,300 And so my question was simple. 188 00:07:13,367 --> 00:07:16,300 Did you know, when you were coming in today to testify, 189 00:07:16,367 --> 00:07:18,467 that it was the defendant's position 190 00:07:18,900 --> 00:07:21,066 that the $200 that you gave her 191 00:07:21,133 --> 00:07:23,300 was not a loan, but was rather a gift? 192 00:07:23,367 --> 00:07:25,400 -Yes. -You did know that? 193 00:07:25,467 --> 00:07:27,100 -Yes. -[Adam] Okay. 194 00:07:27,166 --> 00:07:28,934 Notwithstanding your prior testimony 195 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,900 that you can think of no other reason why she would think 196 00:07:31,967 --> 00:07:35,332 that the $200 was a gift and not a loan, 197 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,900 you do recall a group text message 198 00:07:37,967 --> 00:07:41,266 that you participated in with the defendant 199 00:07:41,332 --> 00:07:44,166 and others in your group regarding Vegas. 200 00:07:44,233 --> 00:07:45,467 Yes, we had several. 201 00:07:45,533 --> 00:07:48,133 [Adam] And one of those other women 202 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,834 was a Dionne. 203 00:07:49,900 --> 00:07:53,033 Why don't you tell me about any offer that you made to her 204 00:07:53,533 --> 00:07:57,166 regarding a loan or a gift because or your knowledge 205 00:07:57,233 --> 00:07:59,433 that, like the defendant, 206 00:07:59,500 --> 00:08:01,367 was having financial difficulties 207 00:08:01,433 --> 00:08:03,900 and was not gonna be able to make the girls' trip, 208 00:08:03,967 --> 00:08:06,333 which was very important to you. 209 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,133 Tell me what your recollection is of those text messages. 210 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,000 [Roy] Okay. Dionne had informed us, 211 00:08:12,066 --> 00:08:13,800 or at least informed Antonette 212 00:08:13,867 --> 00:08:16,367 that she wasn't gonna be able to go on the trip. 213 00:08:16,433 --> 00:08:19,400 And this was like a couple of days prior to us leaving. 214 00:08:19,467 --> 00:08:21,567 She said her vehicle wasn't working, 215 00:08:22,066 --> 00:08:24,633 and she wouldn't be able to have the money to go. 216 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:27,066 And I felt bad, because she doesn't get out 217 00:08:27,133 --> 00:08:28,700 to go often to places. 218 00:08:28,767 --> 00:08:32,100 So I did offer to give her $300. 219 00:08:32,165 --> 00:08:34,165 And she was like, "No, I don't want to take it." 220 00:08:34,232 --> 00:08:37,667 And I told her, I actually told her she could have it. 221 00:08:37,734 --> 00:08:39,900 So let me see if I can unpackage some of that. 222 00:08:42,133 --> 00:08:43,933 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 223 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,433 But I just want to make clear 224 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:48,000 that the defendant specifically mentioned 225 00:08:48,066 --> 00:08:49,200 to you in a text 226 00:08:49,266 --> 00:08:51,800 that the blessing comment was in an envelope 227 00:08:51,867 --> 00:08:53,266 in the mailbox that you left her, 228 00:08:53,333 --> 00:08:56,467 and you never responded contradicting that claim. 229 00:08:56,533 --> 00:08:59,667 That's an admission by you that what she said was accurate. 230 00:08:59,734 --> 00:09:00,867 -You understand that? -No. 231 00:09:08,066 --> 00:09:10,033 [announcer] Rachelle Roy is suing 232 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:12,734 her high school friend, Antonette Harris, 233 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,133 for travelling expenses to Vegas. 234 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,066 Antonette claims Rachelle 235 00:09:17,133 --> 00:09:20,166 generously gifted her the money as a blessing, 236 00:09:20,233 --> 00:09:21,567 which is not a loan. 237 00:09:21,633 --> 00:09:26,834 You said to Dionne that you would loan her $300 to go. 238 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:29,900 -Yes. -"We have come way too far." 239 00:09:29,967 --> 00:09:32,900 And then Dionne said to you, "I'm not borrowing from anyone." 240 00:09:32,967 --> 00:09:35,033 -[Roy] Yes. -And then you said, 241 00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:38,033 "You only have one life to live. I'll give it to you." 242 00:09:40,066 --> 00:09:41,433 Yes. Enjoy life. 243 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:42,967 Now, the defendant was a participant 244 00:09:43,033 --> 00:09:44,900 in that group text, right? 245 00:09:44,967 --> 00:09:46,834 -Yes. -So notwithstanding 246 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:49,433 your prior sworn testimony that the only reason 247 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:52,734 you can think of that the defendant thought 248 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,367 that the money you gave to her was a gift and not a loan 249 00:09:57,433 --> 00:09:59,767 was because of this man that you mentioned, right? 250 00:09:59,834 --> 00:10:01,300 That's the only reason I can think. 251 00:10:01,367 --> 00:10:03,734 [Adam] But now, when I bring to your attention 252 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,433 the group text message that she was actually a participant of, 253 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:09,300 that refreshes your recollection 254 00:10:09,367 --> 00:10:12,066 to give you another reason why she would think it was a gift 255 00:10:12,133 --> 00:10:13,433 and not a loan. 256 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:17,166 Well, no, because I was actually giving Dionne the money. 257 00:10:17,233 --> 00:10:18,867 There was never a time that I said 258 00:10:18,934 --> 00:10:20,333 I was giving Antonette the money. 259 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,133 Great, show me any text or any communication 260 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:29,066 that you have prior to September 27th, 2022, 261 00:10:29,133 --> 00:10:31,800 in which you said to the defendant, 262 00:10:31,867 --> 00:10:33,800 "I am loaning you $200." 263 00:10:33,867 --> 00:10:37,133 It didn't happen before September 27. 264 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,433 It happened after September. It was in October. 265 00:10:40,500 --> 00:10:42,233 [Adam] So let me put this in perspective. 266 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:43,967 Before September 27th, 267 00:10:44,033 --> 00:10:45,367 you were speaking with the defendant, 268 00:10:45,433 --> 00:10:47,567 and the defendant told you 269 00:10:47,633 --> 00:10:49,834 that she was having financial problems 270 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:51,533 and she may not be able to go. 271 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,734 -Right? -No, she was always gonna go. 272 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,367 She just wasn't gonna have any money to spend 273 00:10:55,433 --> 00:10:56,700 while she was there. 274 00:10:56,767 --> 00:10:58,100 Okay, so you're saying, though, 275 00:10:58,165 --> 00:10:59,734 that you acknowledge that she said 276 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,200 that she was having financial problems. 277 00:11:01,266 --> 00:11:03,033 -Correct. -The same type of problems 278 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:05,066 that Dionne was having. 279 00:11:05,133 --> 00:11:07,066 Um, I guess they were similar. 280 00:11:07,133 --> 00:11:09,300 Okay, so why didn't you then provide us 281 00:11:09,367 --> 00:11:11,900 with the group text message from October 8th 282 00:11:11,967 --> 00:11:14,834 for the money, the $200 that you gave to her, 283 00:11:14,900 --> 00:11:17,266 was a gift like the one you gave to Dionne, 284 00:11:17,333 --> 00:11:18,700 and not a loan? 285 00:11:18,767 --> 00:11:19,967 You had that text, right? 286 00:11:20,033 --> 00:11:21,433 You were part of that group chain. 287 00:11:21,500 --> 00:11:23,834 Yeah, but that group chain didn't have anything to do 288 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:26,767 with the loan that was between Antonette and myself. 289 00:11:26,834 --> 00:11:29,467 That was between Dionne wanting to go on the trip. 290 00:11:29,533 --> 00:11:31,500 And Dionne never even took the money. 291 00:11:31,567 --> 00:11:33,333 I understand. I understand your position. 292 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,433 I don't necessarily agree with it, but I understand it. 293 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:39,600 She also provided the defendant a text message from you 294 00:11:39,667 --> 00:11:42,433 that you'll have "At least a thousand dollars for Vegas 295 00:11:42,500 --> 00:11:44,033 "I probably won't need, 296 00:11:44,165 --> 00:11:46,300 so don't sweat the little stuff." 297 00:11:46,367 --> 00:11:48,433 I didn't hear you mention that at all to Judge DiMango. 298 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:50,000 And, quite frankly, I'm surprised. 299 00:11:50,066 --> 00:11:52,934 If you wanted to make sure that your testimony here 300 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,734 and the evidence that you provided was complete, 301 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,000 thorough and accurate, 302 00:11:56,066 --> 00:11:58,633 I was surprised that you didn't provide that text. 303 00:11:58,700 --> 00:12:02,233 You send her a text that you're taking a thousand dollars, 304 00:12:02,300 --> 00:12:05,033 you probably won't need it, so don't sweat the small stuff. 305 00:12:05,100 --> 00:12:08,400 Tell me, in that statement that you made to her, 306 00:12:08,467 --> 00:12:10,233 where there's anything that you mention about a loan. 307 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:13,033 I originally mentioned in the text message 308 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:15,734 that thousand dollars was my own spending money 309 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,500 that I saved for myself. 310 00:12:17,567 --> 00:12:19,834 I told her, "Don't sweat the little things" 311 00:12:19,900 --> 00:12:23,266 because I had money to go to Vegas and help her too. 312 00:12:23,333 --> 00:12:26,767 [Adam] So that $25 that you say you lent her 313 00:12:26,834 --> 00:12:28,266 to go to the dispensary, 314 00:12:28,333 --> 00:12:30,100 that's that little stuff you were talking about? 315 00:12:30,166 --> 00:12:32,400 -Yes. -[Adam] That's inconsistent 316 00:12:32,467 --> 00:12:34,667 with the statement that you made to Judge DiMango. 317 00:12:34,734 --> 00:12:36,333 Your Honor, that's also a statement that was made 318 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,000 before we got to Vegas, 319 00:12:38,066 --> 00:12:40,133 so I knew nothing about what I would loan her 320 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,567 once we got to Vegas. 321 00:12:41,633 --> 00:12:43,767 All right. Well, I get it. 322 00:12:43,834 --> 00:12:46,400 Finally, now, the defendant's position, 323 00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:48,400 if I understand you correctly, ma'am, 324 00:12:48,467 --> 00:12:50,300 is that the only reason why that you were agreeing 325 00:12:50,367 --> 00:12:53,200 to give her back the money on Friday or whatever it was, 326 00:12:53,266 --> 00:12:55,367 because she was all over you and she wouldn't let things go. 327 00:12:55,433 --> 00:12:58,165 -Yes, Your Honor. -It was your clear understanding 328 00:12:58,233 --> 00:12:59,667 that the money that she gave, the $200, 329 00:12:59,734 --> 00:13:01,600 was as a result of you saying, 330 00:13:01,667 --> 00:13:03,967 "I don't have the money. I won't be able to go." 331 00:13:04,033 --> 00:13:05,567 The plaintiff wanted to go very badly, 332 00:13:05,633 --> 00:13:07,967 and so she gave that up to you 333 00:13:08,033 --> 00:13:09,433 without any expectation of repayment. 334 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:11,900 -Yes, Your Honor. -[Adam] Right? November 13th. 335 00:13:11,967 --> 00:13:13,100 Defendant to you, ma'am. 336 00:13:13,166 --> 00:13:14,700 "I don't owe you or anybody else." 337 00:13:14,767 --> 00:13:15,834 That's what she says. 338 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:17,900 "You're coming back to collect on a blessing. 339 00:13:17,967 --> 00:13:21,900 "I had the envelope you put in my mailbox 340 00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:23,333 "without my knowledge, 341 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,834 "and then called me to say 'check your mailbox.'" 342 00:13:25,900 --> 00:13:27,333 But I just want to make clear, 343 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,166 you never responded contradicting that claim. 344 00:13:30,233 --> 00:13:33,133 That's an admission by you that what she said was accurate. 345 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,233 -You understand that? -No, I don't. 346 00:13:35,567 --> 00:13:37,333 That's okay. I do. That's what's important. 347 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,400 -[Roy] Thank you, Your Honor. -In response to that, though, 348 00:13:39,467 --> 00:13:41,467 on November 14th, what you say to her: 349 00:13:41,533 --> 00:13:42,934 "You can't keep my money. 350 00:13:43,433 --> 00:13:45,300 "No, you are not. 351 00:13:45,367 --> 00:13:48,433 You knew about the $200 because you needed it." 352 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:50,165 You remember sending that message? 353 00:13:50,233 --> 00:13:52,200 -I did. -[Adam] What's this dichotomy? 354 00:13:52,266 --> 00:13:55,066 The difference between what you want people to think you are: 355 00:13:55,133 --> 00:13:59,300 a caring, generous woman who blesses people with money, 356 00:13:59,367 --> 00:14:01,633 and what you actually are, 357 00:14:01,700 --> 00:14:03,367 which is what that text message says. 358 00:14:03,433 --> 00:14:04,900 You follow what I'm saying? 359 00:14:04,967 --> 00:14:07,934 Yeah. After several times of asking her for my money 360 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,066 and she don't give it to me, I would get a little angry. 361 00:14:10,133 --> 00:14:11,767 [Adam] I got it. Thank you very much. 362 00:14:11,834 --> 00:14:12,967 Judge Acker. 363 00:14:13,033 --> 00:14:15,100 Let's start with your first position. 364 00:14:15,166 --> 00:14:17,367 You were gonna go on the trip, but you had no money. 365 00:14:17,433 --> 00:14:18,900 How was that gonna work in Vegas? 366 00:14:18,967 --> 00:14:20,734 The money was already paid for the trip, 367 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,934 so the trip was paid for. 368 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,734 So in my text messages, I told Rachelle 369 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,934 whether I had a quarter, dime or nickel, 370 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,734 I was going to Vegas. 371 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,066 And so how was that going to work? 372 00:14:30,133 --> 00:14:31,767 So when you say the trip was paid for, 373 00:14:31,834 --> 00:14:33,867 what components of the trip were paid for? 374 00:14:33,934 --> 00:14:36,300 It was the house, and our T-shirt, 375 00:14:36,367 --> 00:14:39,200 and the food and alcohol that would be in the house. 376 00:14:39,266 --> 00:14:41,934 So it was your plan to just go to Vegas, 377 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,967 stay in the house and never leave the house? 378 00:14:44,033 --> 00:14:45,700 No, well, we were gonna do some-- 379 00:14:45,767 --> 00:14:47,266 But you didn't have any money. 380 00:14:47,333 --> 00:14:50,233 Well, because the girl that took over with the trip with me 381 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:52,000 had been to Vegas several times before, 382 00:14:52,066 --> 00:14:54,700 and she said you don't need the kind of money 383 00:14:54,767 --> 00:14:56,900 that Rachelle was talking about bringing to Vegas 384 00:14:56,967 --> 00:14:58,233 to enjoy Vegas. 385 00:14:58,300 --> 00:15:00,200 Because I had never been to Vegas, Your Honor. 386 00:15:00,266 --> 00:15:02,033 Well, Rachelle wanted to do Vegas 387 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:04,033 in the way that Rachelle wanted to do Vegas. 388 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:06,333 -[Harris] Yes, Your Honor. -You had a way 389 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,834 of doing Vegas on a budget. 390 00:15:07,900 --> 00:15:09,767 But instead of doing Vegas on a budget, 391 00:15:09,834 --> 00:15:11,066 you took Rachelle's way 392 00:15:11,133 --> 00:15:12,734 because she wanted to go the money way. 393 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,066 And so I find it a little curious that now, 394 00:15:17,133 --> 00:15:20,700 Rachelle is the bad person for having given you some money. 395 00:15:20,767 --> 00:15:23,333 I mean, if you wanted to do Vegas free, 396 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,266 then why not just say to Rachelle, 397 00:15:25,333 --> 00:15:27,467 "I don't want your money. I don't want the drama. 398 00:15:27,533 --> 00:15:29,767 I'm just gonna hang with free." 399 00:15:30,367 --> 00:15:31,967 [Harris] But, Your Honor, like I said, 400 00:15:32,033 --> 00:15:34,367 there are text messages where I told Rachelle 401 00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:36,467 it didn't matter if I had a quarter, nickel, or dime, 402 00:15:36,533 --> 00:15:37,967 I was going to Vegas. 403 00:15:38,033 --> 00:15:40,266 Rachelle knew I lost my mama Christmas of 2018. 404 00:15:40,333 --> 00:15:43,367 I lost an aunt December 5th, 2021. 405 00:15:43,433 --> 00:15:46,000 I just lost an uncle this Monday. 406 00:15:46,066 --> 00:15:47,367 My sister has cancer. 407 00:15:47,433 --> 00:15:49,100 I was going to Vegas just to relax. 408 00:15:49,165 --> 00:15:51,133 I didn't care if I did any excursions. 409 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,400 Did she know all of these things? 410 00:15:52,467 --> 00:15:53,900 -[Harris] Yes, she was very-- -Hold on. 411 00:15:53,967 --> 00:15:56,767 So did you know all these things had gone on? 412 00:15:56,834 --> 00:15:58,333 Some of those things. 413 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,867 [Tanya] And you knew she didn't have any money. 414 00:15:59,934 --> 00:16:01,066 -Yes. -[Tanya] Yes? 415 00:16:01,133 --> 00:16:03,633 So then how reasonable 416 00:16:03,700 --> 00:16:06,734 is it to now come to court and say, "I'm gonna sue you"? 417 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,066 Look, I can imagine having a hope and a prayer 418 00:16:10,133 --> 00:16:12,166 that, you know, I'm gonna give my girl some money. 419 00:16:12,233 --> 00:16:14,433 Maybe she's gonna have a good time in Vegas, 420 00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:16,166 do better than she plans, 421 00:16:16,233 --> 00:16:17,767 and roll some of it back to me. 422 00:16:17,834 --> 00:16:19,000 I can see that. 423 00:16:19,066 --> 00:16:20,333 But what I'm not sure of 424 00:16:20,467 --> 00:16:23,567 is whether or not you have a legally binding 425 00:16:23,633 --> 00:16:27,600 expectation that she was gonna pay you back money 426 00:16:27,667 --> 00:16:29,767 you already knew she didn't have in the first place. 427 00:16:29,834 --> 00:16:31,400 And I do believe her when she says that she had a way 428 00:16:31,467 --> 00:16:32,667 to do Vegas on a budget 429 00:16:32,734 --> 00:16:34,734 You can do Vegas on a budget. 430 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,266 I just want that to sit with you, 431 00:16:36,333 --> 00:16:38,000 because right now I'm kind of like, 432 00:16:38,066 --> 00:16:39,734 you can't get blood from a stone. 433 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,100 And she told you she didn't have the money at the outset. 434 00:16:44,066 --> 00:16:46,400 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 435 00:16:46,467 --> 00:16:47,600 I'm gonna tell you this right now, 436 00:16:47,667 --> 00:16:50,266 but you're making her case for her, frankly. 437 00:16:50,333 --> 00:16:52,533 Like, if you had not said a word, 438 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,165 you would have no case as far as I see it. 439 00:16:54,233 --> 00:16:56,300 But you have continued to suggest to her 440 00:16:56,367 --> 00:16:57,967 you were gonna make these payments. 441 00:17:07,500 --> 00:17:10,567 I'm interested in what she said to you about repayment 442 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,767 before you gave her the cash 443 00:17:12,834 --> 00:17:14,934 and before everything went down in Vegas. 444 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,733 She's still waiting on taxes that she didn't get back 445 00:17:18,066 --> 00:17:19,834 for several years. 446 00:17:19,900 --> 00:17:21,066 So that's why I was confident 447 00:17:21,133 --> 00:17:23,867 that she was gonna have some money after the fact. 448 00:17:23,934 --> 00:17:25,934 [Tanya] Did you suggest to the plaintiff 449 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,266 that you were gonna reimburse her some of this money 450 00:17:28,333 --> 00:17:30,367 -when you got a tax refund? -[Harris] I never said that. 451 00:17:30,433 --> 00:17:32,300 Like I said again in my messages, 452 00:17:32,367 --> 00:17:35,133 I told Rachelle, if you're feeling convicted, 453 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,500 if you're feeling some type of way, 454 00:17:36,567 --> 00:17:38,033 don't go out of the way. 455 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:39,200 Because she was always talking about 456 00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:40,433 how she pours into people, 457 00:17:40,500 --> 00:17:42,133 and no one pours back into her. 458 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,700 So I did see those text messages about pouring in, 459 00:17:44,767 --> 00:17:46,734 -and you said to her... -[Harris] I did. 460 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,700 ...you said to her, "You are pouring into people, 461 00:17:48,767 --> 00:17:51,166 and you are not getting it back." 462 00:17:51,233 --> 00:17:53,800 And you did keep making these representations 463 00:17:53,867 --> 00:17:55,033 that you were going to pay her. 464 00:17:55,100 --> 00:17:57,333 And I'm gonna tell you this right now, 465 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,700 but you're making her case for her, frankly. 466 00:17:59,767 --> 00:18:02,166 Like, if you had not said a word, 467 00:18:02,233 --> 00:18:04,133 you would have no case as far as I see it. 468 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,934 But you have continued to suggest to her 469 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,533 you were gonna make these payments. 470 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,433 -Right, because-- -Did you give her back anything? 471 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:12,200 No, because I didn't feel that I owed her anything 472 00:18:12,266 --> 00:18:13,734 based off the conversation, 473 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,000 and she knew about the situation that was going on. 474 00:18:16,066 --> 00:18:17,433 The trip was stressful. 475 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:19,166 A lot of stuff happened behind the trip, 476 00:18:19,233 --> 00:18:21,066 because of what was going on in my personal life. 477 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:22,934 Like I said, I was dealing with deaths. 478 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,800 My sister got cancer the third time around. 479 00:18:24,867 --> 00:18:26,300 [Tanya] I understand your position. 480 00:18:26,367 --> 00:18:28,667 -I understand your position. -It was just a lot. 481 00:18:28,734 --> 00:18:31,000 Anyway, I think I have enough. Judge DiMango? 482 00:18:31,066 --> 00:18:32,767 I don't have anything further at this point, 483 00:18:32,834 --> 00:18:34,834 so I think that we're going to retire 484 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:36,266 to deliberate in this matter. 485 00:18:36,333 --> 00:18:37,667 Thank you both. 486 00:18:37,734 --> 00:18:39,400 Court is now in recess. Parties are excused. 487 00:18:42,767 --> 00:18:45,266 For me, I think I agree with you. 488 00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:47,433 She made the plaintiff's case when she said, 489 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:49,467 "I really wanted to do this on a budget." 490 00:18:49,533 --> 00:18:52,166 She wanted $500 with her. She said she had 3. 491 00:18:52,233 --> 00:18:53,767 So all this thing about, 492 00:18:53,834 --> 00:18:56,033 "If I would have gone with a nickel and stayed in the room," 493 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:57,533 I really have a problem with that position. 494 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,066 I think it was a very blessed loan, 495 00:19:01,133 --> 00:19:03,333 and I think that she's entitled to the 200. 496 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,000 As to the $75, I saw no evidence 497 00:19:06,066 --> 00:19:08,834 that anybody was dividing anything by 75. 498 00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:10,400 And there was a text in here where she says, 499 00:19:10,467 --> 00:19:13,300 "And you owe me the $25" right here. 500 00:19:13,367 --> 00:19:15,767 "This is your second payday. You didn't pay. 501 00:19:15,834 --> 00:19:18,100 "And my weed money was supposed to come back 502 00:19:18,166 --> 00:19:20,467 as fast as the weed was smoked." 503 00:19:20,533 --> 00:19:22,800 -[laughs] Well, there's that. -So there's that. 504 00:19:22,867 --> 00:19:25,033 So I'm willing to give her the $200. 505 00:19:26,233 --> 00:19:28,100 Though I think she gave her the money for the weed, 506 00:19:28,166 --> 00:19:29,300 I didn't see how much it was. 507 00:19:29,367 --> 00:19:31,066 So there's no evidence that it was $25. 508 00:19:31,133 --> 00:19:33,000 I don't know how anybody else feels. 509 00:19:33,066 --> 00:19:35,800 The only issue is whether or not the plaintiff proved 510 00:19:35,867 --> 00:19:38,100 that the money was a loan 511 00:19:38,166 --> 00:19:41,066 with an expectation of repayment, 512 00:19:41,133 --> 00:19:45,066 or whether or not there was no expectation of payment 513 00:19:45,133 --> 00:19:47,367 as the plaintiff said. 514 00:19:47,433 --> 00:19:48,433 That's the issue. 515 00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:50,867 And when I asked the plaintiff, 516 00:19:50,934 --> 00:19:54,100 Can you think of any reason why the defendant 517 00:19:54,166 --> 00:19:57,066 would have thought that this was a gift 518 00:19:57,133 --> 00:19:59,066 without an expectation of payment? 519 00:19:59,133 --> 00:20:01,867 And she completely omitted 520 00:20:01,934 --> 00:20:04,400 the conversation that she, the plaintiff, 521 00:20:04,467 --> 00:20:06,767 had with all the other ladies 522 00:20:06,834 --> 00:20:10,400 in which the plaintiff very clearly said first it's a loan, 523 00:20:10,467 --> 00:20:13,066 and then when I know about your financial situation, 524 00:20:13,133 --> 00:20:15,367 now I'm gonna make it a gift. 525 00:20:15,433 --> 00:20:17,133 She omitted that. 526 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,934 And that's because, in my mind, a guilty mind needs no accuser. 527 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:24,900 She knew exactly why the defendant thought 528 00:20:24,967 --> 00:20:26,700 that this was a gift and not a loan, 529 00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:28,066 because of that text. 530 00:20:28,133 --> 00:20:30,934 I think that the defendant convinced me 531 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,166 -that this was a loan. -Me too. 532 00:20:32,233 --> 00:20:34,233 I think that if it was really a gift, 533 00:20:34,300 --> 00:20:35,834 when all of these horrible things 534 00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:37,200 are happening in her life, 535 00:20:37,266 --> 00:20:39,533 she's like, hey, I don't have the money. 536 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,700 I was never gonna give you the money. 537 00:20:41,767 --> 00:20:44,133 And why are you coming at me like this? 538 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,900 I mean, the defendant treated it like a loan. 539 00:20:45,967 --> 00:20:49,033 The defendant is the one who acted as if 540 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:50,266 she had an intention to repay. 541 00:20:50,333 --> 00:20:52,000 So I would award the plaintiff, 542 00:20:52,066 --> 00:20:53,800 as to your point, Patricia, 543 00:20:53,867 --> 00:20:56,767 just the $200 that I think was the loan. 544 00:20:56,834 --> 00:20:58,400 I don't know anything about the weed money. 545 00:20:58,467 --> 00:21:00,734 There's not enough in the record for that for me. 546 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,066 -I'll dissent. -Okay. 547 00:21:02,367 --> 00:21:03,333 Thank you. 548 00:21:06,367 --> 00:21:07,934 Court is back in session. 549 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,834 Parties are reminded you're still under oath. 550 00:21:09,900 --> 00:21:11,100 [Patricia] Thank you, Byrd. 551 00:21:11,166 --> 00:21:14,433 Well, we were a convicted, conflicted bench. 552 00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:18,033 Because we have a majority of two and a dissent of one. 553 00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:20,767 I'll begin with the dissent, which was Judge Levy. 554 00:21:20,834 --> 00:21:23,467 Miss Roy, Judge Levy didn't think 555 00:21:23,533 --> 00:21:26,867 that you proved your case via preponderance of evidence. 556 00:21:26,934 --> 00:21:30,033 Judge Acker and I felt that you did, 557 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:32,166 with a little help from a friend. 558 00:21:32,233 --> 00:21:34,900 And that friend was the defendant. 559 00:21:34,967 --> 00:21:37,700 And that therefore, you did meet your burden, 560 00:21:37,767 --> 00:21:40,333 and you would be entitled to the $200. 561 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,100 Neither of you helped yourselves 562 00:21:42,166 --> 00:21:46,333 with regard to the $25 dispensary money, 563 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,066 because even though there is evidence in there 564 00:21:48,133 --> 00:21:49,633 that you might have gone to a dispensary 565 00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:51,133 and made a purchase, 566 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,800 there's no evidence as to how much that was. 567 00:21:52,867 --> 00:21:55,767 And there is no evidence that there was any $75 agreement 568 00:21:55,834 --> 00:21:59,066 by the defendant or anyone to repay you for the room. 569 00:21:59,133 --> 00:22:03,100 The $200 appeared to Judge and Acker and I 570 00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:05,066 to be money that you gave the defendant, 571 00:22:05,133 --> 00:22:07,000 that you expected back, 572 00:22:07,066 --> 00:22:10,000 and therefore there was a valid and binding oral agreement 573 00:22:10,066 --> 00:22:11,934 between the two of you. 574 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,867 And I just have to say, personally, 575 00:22:13,934 --> 00:22:15,467 you're blessed when you have good friends, 576 00:22:15,533 --> 00:22:17,867 when you have your health, when you have your family. 577 00:22:17,934 --> 00:22:20,200 That's blessed. People giving you money, 578 00:22:20,266 --> 00:22:22,867 that's all stuff the two of you are making up in your heads 579 00:22:22,934 --> 00:22:27,100 to kind of back your positions up with God and religion. 580 00:22:27,166 --> 00:22:29,033 The two of you are blessed, as we all are here. 581 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:31,433 So the bottom line is, go about your lives. 582 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:33,433 You get your $200. 583 00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:34,900 And, you know, you wouldn't have gone 584 00:22:34,967 --> 00:22:36,333 with a quarter in your pocket. 585 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,066 You've said it several times. 586 00:22:38,133 --> 00:22:39,467 And that's the verdict of the court: 587 00:22:39,533 --> 00:22:41,500 $200 in favor of the plaintiff. 588 00:22:41,567 --> 00:22:43,066 [Byrd] This case is now concluded. 589 00:22:43,133 --> 00:22:44,900 Parties are excused. You may step out. 590 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:51,467 Well, you know, people say one thing and they do another. 591 00:22:51,533 --> 00:22:53,367 So like I said, the judge was gonna have to tell me 592 00:22:53,433 --> 00:22:54,767 I owed her the money. 593 00:22:54,834 --> 00:22:56,000 I was not paying her the money, 594 00:22:56,066 --> 00:22:57,200 because I know what she said. 595 00:22:57,266 --> 00:22:58,300 I didn't say nothing different. 596 00:22:58,367 --> 00:22:59,767 She knew it was a loan. 597 00:22:59,834 --> 00:23:01,834 A loan is a loan. 598 00:23:01,900 --> 00:23:03,900 I'm not trying to pay for nobody to go to Vegas. 599 00:23:03,967 --> 00:23:06,033 She had just the same time I had 600 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:08,300 to save for her money for trip. 601 00:23:08,367 --> 00:23:10,700 That was just too old to be here going through stuff like this. 602 00:23:10,767 --> 00:23:12,300 It's just sad that a friendship 603 00:23:12,367 --> 00:23:14,367 had to be diminished again over money. 604 00:23:14,433 --> 00:23:16,033 Oh, I had the best time! 605 00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:18,033 I had the greatest time. 606 00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:20,834 And that was the problem: I had the fun, they didn't. 607 00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:22,700 Women are trouble. 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