1 00:00:06,300 --> 00:00:08,633 [Judge Levy] You get stopped by a New York state trooper 2 00:00:08,700 --> 00:00:11,000 - and you took off like a bat outta hell. - Yes. 3 00:00:11,066 --> 00:00:12,066 [siren wailing] 4 00:00:12,133 --> 00:00:13,467 [woman] We have a [indistinct]. 5 00:00:13,533 --> 00:00:15,633 Each one of those officers has somebody 6 00:00:15,700 --> 00:00:17,533 who is praying that they come home safely. 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,834 She told me not to stop. 8 00:00:18,900 --> 00:00:20,300 And she was like, "No, just keep going." 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:22,767 You knew there were drugs in the car. 10 00:00:22,834 --> 00:00:23,967 At the time, no, I did not. 11 00:00:24,033 --> 00:00:26,066 [laughs] Even I find that funny. 12 00:00:26,133 --> 00:00:27,400 You two should be in jail. 13 00:00:27,467 --> 00:00:29,600 [announcer] Now on Tribunal Justice. 14 00:00:29,834 --> 00:00:33,400 ["Ride of the Valkyries" plays] 15 00:00:51,533 --> 00:00:54,734 [announcer] Today's case was filed in Buffalo, New York. 16 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:57,600 [Cassandra] Your Honor, this is case 2013, 17 00:00:57,667 --> 00:00:59,500 Lucas versus Dillon. 18 00:00:59,567 --> 00:01:01,033 All parties have been sworn in. 19 00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:03,033 - Thank you, Cassandra. - [Cassandra] You may be seated. 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,600 There's Bonnie and Clyde. 21 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:09,166 There's Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. 22 00:01:09,233 --> 00:01:11,066 There's Thelma and Louise. 23 00:01:11,133 --> 00:01:14,233 And now we have Lucas and Dillon. 24 00:01:15,133 --> 00:01:16,667 Two high school friends. 25 00:01:16,734 --> 00:01:18,033 You leave Rochester, New York 26 00:01:18,100 --> 00:01:21,767 to go on a graduation road trip in your new car, 27 00:01:21,834 --> 00:01:24,567 and instead you go on a two-day crime spree. 28 00:01:24,633 --> 00:01:27,000 You getting arrested for DWI, 29 00:01:27,066 --> 00:01:30,200 to both of you getting arrested for possession of marijuana, 30 00:01:30,265 --> 00:01:31,934 stealing your car out of a lot, 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,633 having your tires ripped up 32 00:01:33,700 --> 00:01:35,800 by police spike strips. 33 00:01:35,866 --> 00:01:37,333 You blame her, 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,400 you say she owes you $5,000, 35 00:01:39,467 --> 00:01:42,500 and you here are arguing that this is not your fault. 36 00:01:42,567 --> 00:01:44,734 And now your pocketbook, your clothes, 37 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,100 and your diamond ring were stolen. 38 00:01:47,166 --> 00:01:48,433 You blame her. 39 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:49,767 You believe she did it, 40 00:01:49,834 --> 00:01:51,265 you owe her nothing. 41 00:01:51,333 --> 00:01:53,767 So why don't you, Ms. Lucas, 42 00:01:53,834 --> 00:01:56,000 tell us how this all started. 43 00:01:56,066 --> 00:01:57,233 When you first left home, 44 00:01:57,300 --> 00:01:58,633 where did you leave home from? 45 00:01:58,700 --> 00:01:59,700 - From Buffalo, New York. - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 46 00:01:59,767 --> 00:02:02,567 So you leave from Buffalo, and now what? What happens? 47 00:02:02,633 --> 00:02:05,734 We were going to see people that was in jail. 48 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:06,934 Well, mind you, she has a boyfriend. 49 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,433 She was going to see a different dude. 50 00:02:08,500 --> 00:02:10,866 I'm going to see, he was my boyfriend at the time. 51 00:02:10,934 --> 00:02:11,934 - Okay. So... - [Judge DiMango] Wait, wait. 52 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,700 You're driving your car. 53 00:02:13,767 --> 00:02:14,867 Did you have a driver's license 54 00:02:14,934 --> 00:02:16,100 - back then? - No. 55 00:02:16,166 --> 00:02:17,533 [Judge DiMango] Did you take a road test? 56 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,000 At the time, no, I did not. 57 00:02:19,066 --> 00:02:20,200 I have in your papers here 58 00:02:20,266 --> 00:02:22,300 that you failed the road test the day before. 59 00:02:22,367 --> 00:02:23,600 - Okay. - Okay, what? 60 00:02:23,667 --> 00:02:24,867 I caught you in a lie? Come on. 61 00:02:24,934 --> 00:02:25,966 - What do you think-- - No, that wasn't a lie. 62 00:02:26,033 --> 00:02:27,033 - But I'm... - It can't be that easy. 63 00:02:27,100 --> 00:02:28,633 Like I--that was not a lie. 64 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:30,300 I did not take a--I took a road test 65 00:02:30,367 --> 00:02:31,966 the day before, but you didn't say when. 66 00:02:32,033 --> 00:02:33,333 And I failed it. Yes, I did. 67 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,400 [Judge DiMango] And you failed it. 68 00:02:34,466 --> 00:02:36,867 - Did you have a license? - Yes, ma'am. 69 00:02:36,934 --> 00:02:38,667 [Judge DiMango] Did you have a driver's license at the time 70 00:02:38,734 --> 00:02:41,133 that you were driving her vehicle? 71 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,367 Yes, but they were suspended. I didn't... 72 00:02:43,433 --> 00:02:45,667 Yeah, you don't have a license 73 00:02:45,734 --> 00:02:47,367 to drive that's suspended. 74 00:02:47,433 --> 00:02:50,834 You either have a driver's license that valid or you don't. 75 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:54,300 You got several summonses for not having a valid license. 76 00:02:54,367 --> 00:02:56,233 - Yes or no? - Yes. 77 00:02:56,300 --> 00:02:58,300 Back to you, Thelma. 78 00:02:58,367 --> 00:02:59,966 [laughter] 79 00:03:00,100 --> 00:03:02,000 [Judge DiMango] And you, I know you think it's funny. 80 00:03:02,066 --> 00:03:03,300 - How old are you? - [Paulette] I'm 19. 81 00:03:03,367 --> 00:03:05,066 - And how old are you? - Twenty. 82 00:03:05,133 --> 00:03:07,467 For your ages are already off 83 00:03:07,533 --> 00:03:10,300 to a worse road trip than your car took you on. 84 00:03:10,867 --> 00:03:13,500 So now you're driving, you're going to see your beau 85 00:03:13,567 --> 00:03:15,967 and her friend or whatever, and you get pulled over 86 00:03:16,033 --> 00:03:19,000 - for a DWI, correct? - Correct. 87 00:03:19,066 --> 00:03:20,333 [Judge DiMango] And they say you're high. 88 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,100 - I wasn't. - [Judge DiMango] No, not at all, right? 89 00:03:22,166 --> 00:03:23,867 - Because I wasn't. - Did they take any breathalyzer 90 00:03:23,934 --> 00:03:25,433 or blood tests from you? 91 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:26,734 So they took a breathalyzer, 92 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,466 and then she said that I failed the breathalyzer. 93 00:03:29,533 --> 00:03:32,800 So then she said that she had to arrest me and tow my vehicle, 94 00:03:32,867 --> 00:03:34,200 - and she would release me... - [Judge DiMango] Oh, sure, 95 00:03:34,266 --> 00:03:35,700 'cause you don't have a license. 96 00:03:35,767 --> 00:03:38,367 And they can't let her drive it. She doesn't have a license. 97 00:03:38,433 --> 00:03:40,734 So now they take a blood test from you, don't they? 98 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,834 Yes. It came back and I was not high. 99 00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:45,433 [Judge DiMango] No, it came back that you had marijuana in your system. 100 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:47,066 But I was not high. I smoked marijuana... 101 00:03:47,133 --> 00:03:48,500 - [Judge DiMango] Oh, I see. - ... but I was not high at the time. 102 00:03:48,567 --> 00:03:50,466 See, you're a woman of distinction. 103 00:03:50,533 --> 00:03:52,900 And I don't even mean that you're special and classy. 104 00:03:52,966 --> 00:03:54,066 You're a woman of distinction that 105 00:03:54,133 --> 00:03:57,367 if it's not said exactly the way you think it should be said, 106 00:03:57,433 --> 00:03:59,266 then you must be telling the truth. 107 00:03:59,333 --> 00:04:01,266 I'm not gonna lie and say that I don't smoke marijuana. 108 00:04:01,333 --> 00:04:03,467 I do smoke marijuana, but at the time I was not high. 109 00:04:03,533 --> 00:04:05,000 Your definition of high 110 00:04:05,066 --> 00:04:07,233 and the law's definition of high 111 00:04:07,300 --> 00:04:08,467 are two separate things. 112 00:04:08,533 --> 00:04:10,266 So an alcoholic could have five drinks 113 00:04:10,333 --> 00:04:11,734 and still feel like he's not drunk, 114 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,934 but nevertheless, he is under the law. 115 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,667 You, ma'am, came back testing positive for marijuana. 116 00:04:17,733 --> 00:04:20,266 - They impounded your car, correct? - Yes. 117 00:04:20,332 --> 00:04:21,800 [Judge DiMango] And did they put it in a lot? 118 00:04:21,867 --> 00:04:23,567 No, it wasn't even behind the gate. 119 00:04:23,633 --> 00:04:24,667 [Judge DiMango] It wasn't even behind the gate. 120 00:04:24,734 --> 00:04:27,266 They just take your car, 'cause they're very trusty in upstate. 121 00:04:27,332 --> 00:04:29,332 Down in the city, we don't trust anybody. 122 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,266 So they gave my keys and everything to Nalisa. 123 00:04:32,332 --> 00:04:34,233 - [Judge DiMango] Did you get the keys? - Yes. 124 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:35,933 [Judge DiMango] So now you are in jail 125 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,233 or do they--what do they do with you? 126 00:04:37,300 --> 00:04:39,233 No, they just took me to the hospital, 127 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:40,533 took blood work, 128 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,767 then they took me back to the state trooper hub, 129 00:04:42,834 --> 00:04:43,933 then they let me go. 130 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,767 So she said, "Let's get in the car. 131 00:04:45,834 --> 00:04:47,500 Let's go get the car." We went and got the car. 132 00:04:47,567 --> 00:04:49,667 [Judge DiMango] You decide you're gonna just take it out of there, right? 133 00:04:49,734 --> 00:04:51,332 Yeah, we pull off the lot. 134 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,633 And on the way back to Buffalo, 135 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:55,933 before I got on the highway, I was taking back roads. 136 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,933 - On the back roads, I hit a deer. - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 137 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,300 Let's see the car before you hit the deer. 138 00:05:01,367 --> 00:05:03,400 Ah, I love this one. 139 00:05:03,467 --> 00:05:06,400 We're not seeing the better end of you in court apparently, 140 00:05:06,467 --> 00:05:08,133 the better end of you we are seeing now. 141 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,467 [laughter] 142 00:05:09,533 --> 00:05:12,533 That's your car before the deer. 143 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,633 [Nalisa] Uh-hmm. 144 00:05:13,700 --> 00:05:16,900 And let's see, I think we have another picture of the car. 145 00:05:16,967 --> 00:05:18,567 This one is after the deer. 146 00:05:18,633 --> 00:05:20,567 Those are the side tires. 147 00:05:20,633 --> 00:05:24,900 The reason why the tires are shredded-- 148 00:05:24,967 --> 00:05:26,934 which one of you wants to tell us? 149 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,734 [Paulette] So after the deer, 150 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:29,934 she purposely hit the deer 151 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,734 because the deer already made it to the grass. 152 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,500 The deer was already across the street. 153 00:05:33,567 --> 00:05:35,233 So wait, are you telling me that she took the car 154 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:37,332 and started aiming at a deer that... 155 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,100 - Oh. Oh, yes, definitely. - ... was running away? 156 00:05:39,166 --> 00:05:40,767 That was definitely on purpose. 157 00:05:40,834 --> 00:05:41,867 No, ma'am. 158 00:05:41,933 --> 00:05:43,933 It was--it was dark outside and there-- 159 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,166 where we were on the back roads, 160 00:05:45,233 --> 00:05:49,100 there was no, um, street lights so... 161 00:05:49,166 --> 00:05:51,166 And you had to take the back roads, right? 162 00:05:51,233 --> 00:05:52,633 Because you couldn't be seen 163 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:54,734 - on the main roads, correct? - Yes. 164 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,700 [Judge DiMango] And also, why else did you have to take the back roads? 165 00:05:57,767 --> 00:05:59,800 - Because... - Because of the three pounds of marijuana 166 00:05:59,867 --> 00:06:01,233 that were in the car? 167 00:06:01,934 --> 00:06:03,300 Three p... 168 00:06:03,367 --> 00:06:04,633 - [Judge DiMango] Hmm? - Yeah. 169 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:05,934 [Judge DiMango] So now you're running away, 170 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,233 taking back roads 171 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,533 because you have three pounds of marijuana in the car. 172 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,900 And she done hit the deer. 173 00:06:10,967 --> 00:06:12,567 [Judge DiMango] The deer is not here to complain. 174 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,000 What is she saying to you during the ride? 175 00:06:16,066 --> 00:06:19,133 Um, so basically, when the police first got behind us, 176 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,734 they were trying to pull us over 177 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,667 for the headlight that the deer had took out. 178 00:06:22,734 --> 00:06:25,367 [Judge DiMango] Okay. So now the deer breaks your headlight, 179 00:06:25,433 --> 00:06:27,734 which causes the police--they chase you. 180 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,633 - What do you do? - I was speeding. 181 00:06:29,700 --> 00:06:31,967 You were speeding. How fast were you going? 182 00:06:32,033 --> 00:06:34,400 Um, I wanna say... 183 00:06:34,467 --> 00:06:35,900 Over a hundred miles per hour. 184 00:06:35,967 --> 00:06:37,600 Thank you for giving her up so quickly. 185 00:06:37,667 --> 00:06:38,667 But you're correct. 186 00:06:38,734 --> 00:06:40,667 The police officer's police report, 187 00:06:40,734 --> 00:06:43,000 he writes that he couldn't even keep up with you 188 00:06:43,066 --> 00:06:44,800 at a hundred and ten. 189 00:06:44,867 --> 00:06:47,467 Do you know how many innocent lives are taken 190 00:06:47,533 --> 00:06:49,200 by people like the two of you, 191 00:06:49,266 --> 00:06:52,033 where other individuals are driving along? 192 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:53,767 Because you don't pull over, do you? 193 00:06:53,834 --> 00:06:55,667 No. They put out a spike strip. 194 00:06:55,734 --> 00:06:57,567 They put out spike strips. 195 00:06:57,633 --> 00:07:00,166 So that means that all the tires are ripped up. 196 00:07:00,233 --> 00:07:01,500 They've got to arrest you both 197 00:07:01,567 --> 00:07:03,600 'cause neither one of you has a license. 198 00:07:03,667 --> 00:07:05,133 Let's see, I think we have a video of this. 199 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,400 So let's take a look at that. 200 00:07:07,166 --> 00:07:09,667 What you say is that they impound the car 201 00:07:09,734 --> 00:07:12,400 and in impounding the car, they have to search the car. 202 00:07:12,467 --> 00:07:15,734 And when they do that, they find three pounds of marijuana. 203 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,467 They charge you both with that. 204 00:07:17,533 --> 00:07:18,967 You have to get a lawyer, correct? 205 00:07:19,033 --> 00:07:20,400 Which is part of what you're suing her for. 206 00:07:20,467 --> 00:07:22,934 You're saying she owes you $2,000 for a lawyer. 207 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,166 You had to get new tires. 208 00:07:24,233 --> 00:07:25,834 You want her to pay for the tires, 209 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:27,900 and that's of course, if I don't believe 210 00:07:27,967 --> 00:07:30,266 that the two of you are doing what we call in New York, 211 00:07:30,332 --> 00:07:31,867 I mean you two both should be familiar, 212 00:07:31,934 --> 00:07:34,000 you have friends in prison, you know prisoners, 213 00:07:34,066 --> 00:07:35,667 you should be familiar somewhat with the law 214 00:07:35,734 --> 00:07:37,800 of the law of acting in concert, 215 00:07:37,867 --> 00:07:40,066 which means that when two people are acting together 216 00:07:40,133 --> 00:07:42,200 with the same mental culpability, 217 00:07:42,266 --> 00:07:43,367 with the same mindset, 218 00:07:43,433 --> 00:07:45,000 and you help one another, 219 00:07:45,066 --> 00:07:47,133 - you request that they do something... - No, I told her to slow down. 220 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,400 - [Judge DiMango] You are both... - Definitely did. 221 00:07:48,467 --> 00:07:51,200 [Judge DiMango] ... responsible for what happens in the end. 222 00:07:51,266 --> 00:07:53,967 Now you, you claimed that she put sugar in your gas tank 223 00:07:54,033 --> 00:07:55,533 and in support of that, 224 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,633 you have a picture that you've submitted. 225 00:07:57,700 --> 00:07:59,933 Actually, there's so much sugar on this, 226 00:08:00,066 --> 00:08:01,800 it looks as though you could have been baking a cake 227 00:08:01,867 --> 00:08:03,233 inside that thing there. 228 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:04,300 How do you know she did that? 229 00:08:04,367 --> 00:08:06,834 Because she's the only person that I have a problem with, 230 00:08:06,900 --> 00:08:09,667 and she had been texting my phone 231 00:08:09,734 --> 00:08:11,333 about the damages done to her car 232 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,300 and I told her that, 233 00:08:13,367 --> 00:08:15,934 you know, I wanted my belongings that were in her car. 234 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,867 So what belongings do you say were in her car? 235 00:08:17,934 --> 00:08:19,467 [Nalisa] My engagement ring. 236 00:08:19,533 --> 00:08:20,967 What would possess you? 237 00:08:21,033 --> 00:08:22,567 See, 'cause I don't believe this either. 238 00:08:22,633 --> 00:08:24,533 With all that you two were doing, 239 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,133 you said, you know, I think the best place for this engagement ring 240 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,367 will be in this car 241 00:08:28,433 --> 00:08:31,367 that we have been driving while high, 242 00:08:31,433 --> 00:08:32,700 on a high-speed chase, 243 00:08:32,767 --> 00:08:35,299 ripping up our tires, stealing outta car lots. 244 00:08:35,366 --> 00:08:37,366 I think this is a safe place for my ring. 245 00:08:37,433 --> 00:08:38,700 You think I believe that? 246 00:08:38,767 --> 00:08:41,700 And by the way, the car was impounded twice. 247 00:08:41,767 --> 00:08:44,265 What would make you think Thelma stole it? 248 00:08:44,333 --> 00:08:46,000 I don't have any proof that she did take it... 249 00:08:46,066 --> 00:08:47,066 - [Judge DiMango] That's correct. - ...when I asked her about my... 250 00:08:47,133 --> 00:08:48,133 [Judge DiMango] You don't have any proof. 251 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,767 When I asked her about my belongings that was left in her car 252 00:08:50,834 --> 00:08:53,000 after she got the car back, 'cause I called the impound 253 00:08:53,066 --> 00:08:54,367 - and they told me... - So was it your position that 254 00:08:54,433 --> 00:08:56,233 the reason you're not paying her for anything 255 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:58,066 is 'cause you believe that she was the one 256 00:08:58,133 --> 00:08:59,200 who stole your property, 257 00:08:59,266 --> 00:09:01,367 made your car a cake, 258 00:09:01,433 --> 00:09:02,700 and is that it? 259 00:09:02,767 --> 00:09:05,166 No, 'cause I told her I would help her pay for her car. 260 00:09:05,233 --> 00:09:07,133 - I told her that. - But when you got back to Buffalo, 261 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,333 you act like you don't have no money. 262 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,467 [Judge DiMango] Well, I think the two of you... 263 00:09:09,533 --> 00:09:11,400 - So you didn't even buy your own car yet. - ... have entertained me sufficiently 264 00:09:11,467 --> 00:09:14,033 with your saga and your crime spree. 265 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:16,133 - So Judge Levy? - [Judge Levy] So if you have no money, 266 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,266 and you really don't have all that much money... 267 00:09:18,333 --> 00:09:19,500 - Yes. - [Judge Levy] Where'd you come up 268 00:09:19,567 --> 00:09:21,166 with the money to buy three pounds of weed? 269 00:09:21,233 --> 00:09:23,967 And what were you taking three pounds of weed to the prison for? 270 00:09:25,700 --> 00:09:28,367 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 271 00:09:28,433 --> 00:09:29,800 Ah, we just got pulled over, right? 272 00:09:29,867 --> 00:09:31,400 - [Paulette chuckles] - [Judge Levy] The lights 273 00:09:31,467 --> 00:09:33,533 behind the vehicle, that's the officer 274 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:34,700 who just pulled you over. 275 00:09:34,767 --> 00:09:36,600 Your position is that you were not high. 276 00:09:36,667 --> 00:09:38,266 [dramatic musical sting] 277 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:41,834 [theme music plays] 278 00:09:41,900 --> 00:09:44,133 [announcer] Paulette Lucas is suing former friend, 279 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,266 Nalisa Dillon, for car damages 280 00:09:46,333 --> 00:09:48,567 she claims Nalisa caused to her car 281 00:09:48,633 --> 00:09:50,533 while fleeing the police. 282 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,567 Nalisa says Paulette ordered her to keep driving 283 00:09:53,633 --> 00:09:56,767 until a police spike strip ended their road trip. 284 00:09:56,834 --> 00:09:59,000 Where'd you come up with the money to buy three pounds of weed? 285 00:09:59,066 --> 00:10:01,900 And what were you taking three pounds of weed to the prison for? 286 00:10:01,967 --> 00:10:03,500 I wasn't taking it to nobody. 287 00:10:03,567 --> 00:10:04,867 [Judge Levy] No, you just drive around 288 00:10:04,934 --> 00:10:06,967 with three pounds of marijuana in the car for fun? 289 00:10:07,033 --> 00:10:09,667 No, it was for my per-- it was for my personal uses. 290 00:10:09,734 --> 00:10:11,000 - I wasn't taking it to nobody. - [Judge Levy] Three pounds of weed 291 00:10:11,066 --> 00:10:13,200 for your personal use? Where'd you get the money to buy it? 292 00:10:13,266 --> 00:10:14,433 Um, I work. 293 00:10:14,500 --> 00:10:16,667 How much did you pay for that three pounds of weed? 294 00:10:16,734 --> 00:10:17,934 Um, like 120. 295 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,467 - [Judge Levy] Hundred and twenty dollars? - Yeah. 296 00:10:19,533 --> 00:10:22,533 [laughter] 297 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,233 Even I find that funny. 298 00:10:24,300 --> 00:10:25,800 Uh-hmm. 299 00:10:25,867 --> 00:10:28,033 Let's bring this all back. 300 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:31,033 It's June 24th, 2023. 301 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:32,934 You two decide to drive 302 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,834 from where you live in Buffalo. 303 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:37,433 That's the northwest territory of New York. 304 00:10:37,500 --> 00:10:40,266 And you decide to go to Malone, New York, 305 00:10:40,333 --> 00:10:41,467 four counties away. 306 00:10:41,533 --> 00:10:42,533 Takes about five hours 307 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,433 - to get there, right? - Yes. 308 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:46,433 So you're going to visit your boyfriend 309 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:47,533 in one of the jails 310 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,700 and you leave the jail 311 00:10:49,767 --> 00:10:52,867 and you are driving now to the jail 312 00:10:52,934 --> 00:10:55,266 - where your friend is, is that right? - Correct. 313 00:10:55,333 --> 00:10:57,867 [Judge Levy] And it's at that time that you get stopped 314 00:10:57,934 --> 00:10:59,667 by a New York state trooper 315 00:10:59,734 --> 00:11:02,066 - because you were speeding. - Correct. 316 00:11:02,133 --> 00:11:04,633 [Judge Levy] And how fast were you going? 317 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:07,533 I probably was going like 65, 318 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:08,800 - 70 or something like that. - [Judge Levy] Look, look at me. 319 00:11:08,867 --> 00:11:10,000 [Paulette] I really don't. I don't know... 320 00:11:10,066 --> 00:11:11,133 - Look at me. - [Paulette] ... at the time. 321 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,500 What about a hundred? Were you going a hundred? 322 00:11:12,567 --> 00:11:14,367 No, definitely was not. 323 00:11:14,433 --> 00:11:17,433 Now, you do not have a valid driver's license 324 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:20,700 and you smoked pot that day in the car 325 00:11:20,767 --> 00:11:23,166 and that's when the police officer approaches, right? 326 00:11:23,233 --> 00:11:24,233 Correct. 327 00:11:24,300 --> 00:11:25,300 [Judge Levy] You were arrested, 328 00:11:25,367 --> 00:11:27,100 put in the back of the police car, correct? 329 00:11:27,166 --> 00:11:29,200 - Correct. - You then get taken to a hospital 330 00:11:29,266 --> 00:11:30,734 - and you get a blood draw? - Correct. 331 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,834 [Judge Levy] You come back from the hospital, 332 00:11:31,900 --> 00:11:33,000 you get processed. 333 00:11:33,066 --> 00:11:34,633 It's about what? It's about midnight, 334 00:11:34,700 --> 00:11:38,000 - 1:00 in the morning, now on June 25th. - Correct. 335 00:11:38,066 --> 00:11:41,066 [Judge Levy] And now you're stuck at the state trooper barracks, right? 336 00:11:41,133 --> 00:11:43,633 No. She said that she will let me go, 337 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:46,800 but due to Nalisa license being suspended 338 00:11:46,867 --> 00:11:48,734 and me being on a permit, 339 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,767 that she has to, um, tow the car. 340 00:11:51,834 --> 00:11:53,467 Okay. So just so I'm clear. 341 00:11:53,533 --> 00:11:55,233 So the trooper clearly told you then 342 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:57,000 that she was gonna let you go, 343 00:11:57,066 --> 00:11:58,165 but you can't get a hotel room 344 00:11:58,233 --> 00:12:00,266 - 'cause you guys are too young, right? - [Paulette] Correct. 345 00:12:00,333 --> 00:12:02,133 [Judge Levy] Why didn't you call your dad, come pick you up? 346 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,333 I did call my dad. 347 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,700 - [Judge Levy] And... - He said I should have never went, 348 00:12:04,767 --> 00:12:06,767 - which is correct. - Well, good for him. 349 00:12:06,834 --> 00:12:08,066 What about you? Who do you live with? 350 00:12:08,133 --> 00:12:09,400 My grandmother at the time. 351 00:12:09,467 --> 00:12:10,834 [Judge Levy] Why not call grandma and come pick you up 352 00:12:10,900 --> 00:12:12,900 so you don't have to take the car out of impound? 353 00:12:12,967 --> 00:12:14,200 You just chose not to. 354 00:12:14,266 --> 00:12:16,033 No, I called my dad and my stepmom. 355 00:12:16,100 --> 00:12:17,800 Okay. But they wouldn't come out and get you? 356 00:12:17,867 --> 00:12:18,934 - No. - [Judge Levy] So then the two of you 357 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,400 decide the best thing to do at that point 358 00:12:20,467 --> 00:12:22,033 was just to take the vehicle out of impound. 359 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:23,767 And it was at that time when you're on the back roads 360 00:12:23,834 --> 00:12:25,400 in upstate New York that you hit a deer, 361 00:12:25,467 --> 00:12:26,700 - right? - Yes. 362 00:12:26,767 --> 00:12:28,800 [Judge Levy] And that knocked out your headlight. 363 00:12:28,867 --> 00:12:32,165 That's what caused the police officers to notice the vehicle, 364 00:12:32,233 --> 00:12:35,000 and they tried to stop you and you took off like a bat outta hell, 365 00:12:35,066 --> 00:12:36,734 driving over hundred miles an hour, 366 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:37,867 - right? - Yes. 367 00:12:37,934 --> 00:12:40,600 Did you think anything up to this point was funny? 368 00:12:40,667 --> 00:12:42,633 I definitely did not--definitely not... 369 00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:44,033 [Judge Levy] You knew you were in trouble, right? 370 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:45,165 Correct. 371 00:12:45,233 --> 00:12:47,333 [Judge Levy] Because you, you were the one, Ms. Dillon, 372 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,400 who actually took a video of the two of you in the car 373 00:12:50,467 --> 00:12:53,633 after the plaintiff was stopped going 95 miles an hour 374 00:12:53,700 --> 00:12:56,834 and prior to her getting arrested for DWI drugs, right? 375 00:12:56,900 --> 00:12:58,200 - [Nalisa] Yeah. - Play the video. 376 00:13:00,934 --> 00:13:02,500 [Paulette laughs] 377 00:13:02,567 --> 00:13:04,166 Speed limit is 55. Fifty-five. 378 00:13:04,233 --> 00:13:05,600 Ah, we just got pulled over, right? 379 00:13:05,667 --> 00:13:06,967 [laughs] 380 00:13:07,033 --> 00:13:08,967 The police officer came to the-- 381 00:13:09,033 --> 00:13:11,767 came to--came to my left side of the car 382 00:13:11,834 --> 00:13:13,500 and going ask her, 383 00:13:13,567 --> 00:13:14,900 "What's the speed limit?" 384 00:13:14,967 --> 00:13:17,700 This [bleep] says 45, she's like, "No. 385 00:13:17,767 --> 00:13:19,367 - It's 55" - [Paulette] But how... 386 00:13:19,433 --> 00:13:21,734 "But how much--how fast do you think you were going?" 387 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,467 Paulette just started laughing. 388 00:13:23,533 --> 00:13:25,567 Lady goes--what you say you said? 389 00:13:25,633 --> 00:13:27,500 - I said 80. [laughs] - [Nalisa] Eighty? 390 00:13:27,567 --> 00:13:29,600 I knew good and well I going 100. 391 00:13:29,667 --> 00:13:31,133 [Judge Levy] That's you saying that you went a hundred. 392 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,533 Add 15 more. 393 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,800 [Judge Levy] The lights, behind the vehicle, 394 00:13:34,867 --> 00:13:36,834 that's the officer who just pulled you over. 395 00:13:36,900 --> 00:13:39,433 And your position is that you were not high. 396 00:13:39,500 --> 00:13:40,934 And none of that was your fault 397 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,467 for getting arrested, is that right? 398 00:13:42,533 --> 00:13:44,066 - I was not high. - [Judge Levy] Okay. 399 00:13:44,133 --> 00:13:46,500 You, for some reason, gave us the toxicology report. 400 00:13:46,567 --> 00:13:47,934 Do we have that--can we put that up there? 401 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:49,567 This is the toxicology report 402 00:13:49,633 --> 00:13:50,834 - that you gave us? - [Paulette] Correct. 403 00:13:50,900 --> 00:13:53,266 [Judge Levy] So this toxicology report says the blood results 404 00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:55,233 came back positive for THC. 405 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:57,734 - So you had marijuana in your system. - Okay. 406 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,066 [Judge Levy] And that's all that they needed 407 00:13:59,133 --> 00:14:01,567 for the driving while ability impaired by drugs charge. 408 00:14:01,633 --> 00:14:02,934 Judge Acker. 409 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,867 [Judge Acker] You two should be embarrassed. 410 00:14:04,934 --> 00:14:07,834 You should be too embarrassed to bring this lawsuit. 411 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:11,066 Because as I understand and digest this case, 412 00:14:11,133 --> 00:14:13,333 the two of you are getting high 413 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,734 and then you give your high friend 414 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,433 the right to drive your car. 415 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:20,900 And then when your high friend gets into an accident, 416 00:14:20,967 --> 00:14:22,700 you wanna bring her to court? 417 00:14:22,767 --> 00:14:25,633 You two need to be in therapy. 418 00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:29,467 So I understand we have body cam video 419 00:14:29,533 --> 00:14:31,200 of the police officers, 420 00:14:31,266 --> 00:14:34,567 who had to also risk their lives 421 00:14:34,633 --> 00:14:37,834 chasing you two stoned young women. 422 00:14:38,433 --> 00:14:41,133 So I'd like to see that body cam video. 423 00:14:42,333 --> 00:14:43,400 [man] They're gone. 424 00:14:45,133 --> 00:14:47,600 [Judge Acker] Each one of those officers has somebody 425 00:14:47,667 --> 00:14:50,133 who is praying that they come home safely. 426 00:14:50,367 --> 00:14:54,600 [siren wailing] 427 00:14:54,667 --> 00:14:55,767 3:00 AM. 428 00:14:55,834 --> 00:14:58,033 3:12 in the morning. 429 00:14:58,100 --> 00:15:00,467 So I want to go to your defense 430 00:15:00,533 --> 00:15:02,700 because the plaintiff's case 431 00:15:02,767 --> 00:15:04,867 is premised on you not stopping. 432 00:15:04,934 --> 00:15:06,266 You refused to stop. 433 00:15:06,333 --> 00:15:08,433 Did it ever occur to you, "Hey, you know what? 434 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:10,967 - The jig's up. We should pull over." - Yes. 435 00:15:11,033 --> 00:15:12,100 Why didn't you do it? 436 00:15:12,166 --> 00:15:13,500 [Nalisa] 'Cause she told me not to stop. 437 00:15:13,567 --> 00:15:14,767 She was like, "No, just keep going. 438 00:15:14,834 --> 00:15:16,600 They're going to pull-- or they're going to arrest us." 439 00:15:16,667 --> 00:15:18,900 And she was just yelling at me, telling me to keep going. 440 00:15:18,967 --> 00:15:20,266 [Judge Acker] So why on earth 441 00:15:20,333 --> 00:15:21,867 would you take instruction 442 00:15:21,934 --> 00:15:23,767 from your high friend 443 00:15:23,834 --> 00:15:27,100 who just got booked for driving while under the influence? 444 00:15:27,166 --> 00:15:28,800 But I gotta go back to you, Ms. Lucas. 445 00:15:28,867 --> 00:15:29,867 Yes, ma'am. 446 00:15:29,934 --> 00:15:31,233 [Judge Acker] You wanna sue her 447 00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:33,165 because you made a stupid bad decision 448 00:15:33,233 --> 00:15:35,066 by giving her the keys in the first place? 449 00:15:35,133 --> 00:15:36,533 Um, I didn't give her the keys. 450 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,934 - The cops gave her the keys. - [Judge Acker] Oh, right, right, 451 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,333 the cops gave her the keys. 452 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,900 Did you know that she didn't have a valid license at the time? 453 00:15:41,967 --> 00:15:43,200 She did say that, 454 00:15:43,266 --> 00:15:45,667 but when she hit the deer, she kept going. 455 00:15:45,734 --> 00:15:47,834 I told her that we should call-- we should call the cops 456 00:15:47,900 --> 00:15:49,967 so we can make a report because that's what you're supposed to do. 457 00:15:50,033 --> 00:15:52,100 Can we put up the graphic that shows 458 00:15:52,165 --> 00:15:54,100 where these young ladies 459 00:15:54,165 --> 00:15:56,633 led law enforcement on this high-speed chase? 460 00:15:56,700 --> 00:15:58,433 How long did the chase last? 461 00:15:58,500 --> 00:15:59,533 [Nalisa] It was from Syracuse-- 462 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,033 that's like Syracuse from Rochester. 463 00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:04,166 I don't know, like, that's like two hours or hour, 464 00:16:04,233 --> 00:16:05,266 something like that. 465 00:16:05,333 --> 00:16:08,133 [Judge Acker] You traversed four counties 466 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,500 and led these officers on the chase 467 00:16:10,567 --> 00:16:12,633 for over two hours. 468 00:16:12,700 --> 00:16:15,033 And so what's happening in the car at this time? 469 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:16,467 She was on the phone with her father. 470 00:16:16,533 --> 00:16:18,000 I wasn't too much as paying-- 471 00:16:18,066 --> 00:16:20,233 I wasn't paying their conversation no attention 472 00:16:20,300 --> 00:16:21,533 'cause I was too busy driving. 473 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,900 [Judge Acker] So she was on the phone with her father 474 00:16:23,967 --> 00:16:26,800 and you still did not have the presence of mind 475 00:16:26,867 --> 00:16:28,633 to simply stop the car. 476 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:30,500 Your defense is foolish. 477 00:16:32,433 --> 00:16:35,033 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 478 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:36,333 You admitted to one of my colleagues 479 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,433 that you were going to pay her some money. 480 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:40,967 - Yes. - Why did you agree to do that? 481 00:16:41,033 --> 00:16:42,500 [dramatic musical sting] 482 00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:45,967 [theme music plays] 483 00:16:46,033 --> 00:16:49,533 [announcer] Paulette Lucas is suing her former bestie, Nalisa Dillon, 484 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,165 for wrecking her car, 485 00:16:51,233 --> 00:16:54,734 but Nalisa says Paulette instructed her to run from the police 486 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,266 until spike strips ended their wild night out. 487 00:16:58,333 --> 00:16:59,900 You admitted to one of my colleagues 488 00:16:59,967 --> 00:17:02,133 that you were going to pay her some money. 489 00:17:02,767 --> 00:17:05,200 - Yes. - Why did you agree to do that? 490 00:17:05,266 --> 00:17:08,032 Because I told her, um, after everything happened 491 00:17:08,099 --> 00:17:11,800 - that I would help her get her car fixed. - Help me? 492 00:17:11,867 --> 00:17:13,532 - [Judge Acker] You felt like you... - [Nalisa] Yeah. 493 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:14,733 [Judge Acker] ... bore some responsibility 494 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,300 - because you were driving? - Yes. 495 00:17:16,367 --> 00:17:18,099 [Judge Acker] But then I look at you, 496 00:17:18,165 --> 00:17:19,800 because there's a doctrine in the law, 497 00:17:19,867 --> 00:17:21,834 and it's called assumption of the risk. 498 00:17:21,900 --> 00:17:24,165 And it means that when somebody says, 499 00:17:24,233 --> 00:17:26,532 "You know what? I'm gonna engage in really risky behavior," 500 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:27,834 they just have to suck it up. 501 00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:29,066 They have to eat the loss. 502 00:17:29,133 --> 00:17:31,934 For me, the legal issue is whether or not 503 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,734 you should be held to your promise 504 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,300 to pay for at least part of it, 505 00:17:36,367 --> 00:17:40,033 or whether or not you just made a decision so absurdly stupid 506 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:41,633 that you have to assume the risk 507 00:17:41,700 --> 00:17:43,567 of everything that happened afterward. 508 00:17:43,633 --> 00:17:45,300 - I don't have anything further. - [Judge Levy] I do. 509 00:17:45,367 --> 00:17:47,734 Ms. Dillon, what happened to your criminal charges? 510 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,000 You were charged with aggravated, unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle, 511 00:17:51,066 --> 00:17:52,400 fleeing a police officer, 512 00:17:52,467 --> 00:17:55,066 - and reckless driving, right? - Yes. 513 00:17:55,133 --> 00:17:56,367 [Judge Levy] What happened to those charges? 514 00:17:56,433 --> 00:17:58,467 - They got dismissed. - They got dismissed? 515 00:17:58,533 --> 00:17:59,533 [Nalisa] Yeah, they, um-- 516 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,767 instead of giving me all of those, uh, misdemeanors, 517 00:18:03,834 --> 00:18:06,133 they gave me traffic tickets and I had to pay a fine. 518 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,066 That's a win. Merry Christmas. 519 00:18:08,133 --> 00:18:09,300 And what about you? 520 00:18:09,367 --> 00:18:12,033 You were charged with facilitating aggravated, 521 00:18:12,100 --> 00:18:15,233 unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle as a misdemeanor. 522 00:18:15,300 --> 00:18:16,600 What happened to that charge? 523 00:18:16,667 --> 00:18:18,066 I just have to pay a fine. 524 00:18:18,133 --> 00:18:21,133 And the DWI drug charge? 525 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,266 My license was suspended for six months 526 00:18:23,333 --> 00:18:25,967 and I have to pay the DMV 175. 527 00:18:26,033 --> 00:18:27,500 I have nothing further. 528 00:18:27,567 --> 00:18:29,867 - Let me ask you, where is the car now? - Her car? 529 00:18:29,934 --> 00:18:30,934 - I got my car. - [Judge DiMango] Yeah. 530 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,467 - Yeah, she has her car. - You have the car? 531 00:18:32,533 --> 00:18:34,367 - [Paulette] Yes. - You have the new tires on it? 532 00:18:34,433 --> 00:18:35,433 Yes. 533 00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:36,700 - [Judge DiMango] You've been using it? - Yes. 534 00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:39,700 So, really was not even any harm done in that way. 535 00:18:39,767 --> 00:18:41,767 You had to get the car fixed and it's done. 536 00:18:41,834 --> 00:18:42,834 And what about you? 537 00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:44,533 What has changed in your life 538 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,200 that would even let me think 539 00:18:46,266 --> 00:18:47,600 that there was a lesson learned here? 540 00:18:49,367 --> 00:18:50,400 Taking you too long. 541 00:18:50,467 --> 00:18:52,000 No lessons learned by either one of you. 542 00:18:52,066 --> 00:18:53,367 I don't have any other questions. 543 00:18:53,934 --> 00:18:55,367 We're gonna retire to deliberate. Thank you. 544 00:18:55,433 --> 00:18:56,900 - [Nalisa] Uh-hmm. - [Cassandra] Court is now in recess. 545 00:18:56,967 --> 00:18:58,166 Parties may exit. 546 00:18:58,233 --> 00:19:00,734 [dramatic musical sting] 547 00:19:02,333 --> 00:19:05,800 I'm not prepared to award Ms. Lucas 548 00:19:05,867 --> 00:19:08,433 for any of the damages or anything that occurred here. 549 00:19:08,500 --> 00:19:09,633 Just right off the top, 550 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:12,066 she has a working vehicle that she has at home. 551 00:19:12,133 --> 00:19:14,633 So all of these damages and all that I believe 552 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:17,500 that they both were acting in tandem with 553 00:19:17,567 --> 00:19:19,900 throughout the course of these two days, 554 00:19:19,967 --> 00:19:22,266 I don't think she should be rewarded for it. 555 00:19:22,333 --> 00:19:24,800 I know that there was a point when the defendant said, 556 00:19:24,867 --> 00:19:26,300 "I was willing to give her something," 557 00:19:26,367 --> 00:19:28,100 but that doesn't mean that we, as a court, 558 00:19:28,166 --> 00:19:30,000 have to follow through with what she wanted to do. 559 00:19:30,066 --> 00:19:31,166 Plaintiff should have taken it. 560 00:19:31,233 --> 00:19:32,333 Yes, that's right. 561 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,000 But no, they chose to come here and deal with us. 562 00:19:35,066 --> 00:19:38,000 So for me, I'm not willing to give Ms. Lucas anything, 563 00:19:38,066 --> 00:19:39,500 and I wanna dismiss the case. 564 00:19:39,567 --> 00:19:40,600 [Judge Levy] I agree. 565 00:19:40,667 --> 00:19:42,667 When both the plaintiff and the defendant trespassed 566 00:19:42,734 --> 00:19:45,066 onto the first tow company's lot 567 00:19:45,133 --> 00:19:46,500 and took the car without paying, 568 00:19:46,567 --> 00:19:48,433 thereby committing theft of services, 569 00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:50,100 - they acted in concert. - [Judge DiMango] Uh-hmm. 570 00:19:50,166 --> 00:19:53,233 When the plaintiff allowed the defendant to drive the car, 571 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:54,734 they acted in concert. 572 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,633 And when they were both driving like Thelma and Louise 573 00:19:57,700 --> 00:19:59,033 through four counties, 574 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:01,934 upwards of a hundred to a hundred and fifteen miles an hour... 575 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,033 With the marijuana in the car. 576 00:20:03,100 --> 00:20:04,834 With three pounds of marijuana in the car, 577 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:06,500 - they were acting in concert. - Absolutely. 578 00:20:06,567 --> 00:20:08,133 [Judge Levy] Uh, as to Tanya, 579 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,400 you were absolutely right. 580 00:20:09,467 --> 00:20:12,300 The legal theory of assumption of risk applies. 581 00:20:12,367 --> 00:20:13,734 In other terms, um, 582 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,433 play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 583 00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:17,900 I think that's perfectly said. 584 00:20:17,967 --> 00:20:19,734 They were in this mess together, 585 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,867 and I think the plaintiff's just gonna have to eat the cost. 586 00:20:21,934 --> 00:20:23,567 [Judge Levy] I will just add one very quick point. 587 00:20:23,633 --> 00:20:25,433 I believed the defendant 588 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:27,934 when she said that the plaintiff told her 589 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,033 not to stop during that trip. 590 00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:33,433 And the reason is because the plaintiff knew 591 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:35,000 that police were chasing her. 592 00:20:35,066 --> 00:20:37,200 And because they were only chasing her 593 00:20:37,266 --> 00:20:38,934 for, uh, an equipment violation, 594 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,200 the protocols of the sheriff's department 595 00:20:41,266 --> 00:20:43,500 are to back off the chase, 596 00:20:43,567 --> 00:20:46,233 don't risk someone's life because of a simple... 597 00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:48,000 - Of the traffic. - ... traffic infraction. 598 00:20:48,066 --> 00:20:49,633 So the plaintiff knew 599 00:20:49,700 --> 00:20:52,433 that some police had already backed off. 600 00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:54,133 The police report went on and explained that 601 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,700 state troopers picked up the car on the throughway 602 00:20:57,767 --> 00:21:00,633 and they were the ones to follow her for two hours. 603 00:21:00,700 --> 00:21:02,734 So the plaintiff's thinking, "Hey, the cops are just gonna back off 604 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,467 like the last ones did, so keep going." 605 00:21:05,533 --> 00:21:07,300 That's why I believe what the defendant said. 606 00:21:07,367 --> 00:21:08,633 Ultimately, it doesn't change our decision. 607 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:09,867 - No. She's still... - Um, with anything, 608 00:21:09,934 --> 00:21:11,133 - it would've [indistinct]. - She's still being a part 609 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,200 - of a criminal team. - [laughs] 610 00:21:12,266 --> 00:21:13,266 - Right. - That's it. 611 00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:15,967 [dramatic musical sting] 612 00:21:16,033 --> 00:21:17,433 [Cassandra] Court is back in session. 613 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:20,000 All parties are reminded that you're still under oath. 614 00:21:20,066 --> 00:21:21,500 Thank you, Cassandra. 615 00:21:21,567 --> 00:21:23,433 Well, Thelma, Louise, 616 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:24,867 we all are unanimous here. 617 00:21:24,934 --> 00:21:26,533 And what's pretty clear to us 618 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,867 was that this criminal escapade 619 00:21:28,934 --> 00:21:32,400 was really something you both derived pleasure 620 00:21:32,467 --> 00:21:33,800 and enjoyment from. 621 00:21:33,867 --> 00:21:35,600 You were both in it equally. 622 00:21:35,667 --> 00:21:37,667 You were both acting in concert 623 00:21:37,734 --> 00:21:39,633 from the day you started out 624 00:21:39,700 --> 00:21:42,033 on your visit to prison. 625 00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:43,333 We were unanimous. 626 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,133 Neither one of you came across as credible 627 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,066 on almost every point. 628 00:21:48,133 --> 00:21:51,266 And so to give you anything when you still have a working vehicle, 629 00:21:51,333 --> 00:21:52,867 - I think... - I have to get a new one. 630 00:21:52,934 --> 00:21:53,934 [Judge DiMango] ... we would all be remiss... 631 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,467 - It's not fully [indistinct]. - [Judge DiMango] ... in our obligations. 632 00:21:55,533 --> 00:21:58,033 And there we go, proof positive 633 00:21:58,100 --> 00:22:00,433 of how little, if anything, 634 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:02,300 you have learned. 635 00:22:02,367 --> 00:22:05,333 So this was not a situation of a lesson learned. 636 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,033 Oh, it was, because I stopped talking to her. 637 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:09,300 Definitely was. 638 00:22:09,367 --> 00:22:10,967 And you're not gonna stop. 639 00:22:11,033 --> 00:22:13,934 So therefore, ma'am, it is with great pleasure I say 640 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,500 that we are going to award you absolutely nothing... 641 00:22:17,567 --> 00:22:19,600 - That's cool. - ... and dismiss your case unanimously. 642 00:22:19,667 --> 00:22:21,200 - [Paulette] Okay. - [gavel bangs] 643 00:22:21,266 --> 00:22:23,667 [Cassandra] This case has concluded. You're excused. 644 00:22:23,734 --> 00:22:27,900 [theme music plays] 645 00:22:27,967 --> 00:22:29,867 It got outta control because she was driving. 646 00:22:29,934 --> 00:22:31,433 It wasn't out of control when I was driving. 647 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:33,633 She was the one going a hundred and fifty-five. 648 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:36,400 The cop was right there hiding and he came out. 649 00:22:36,467 --> 00:22:38,934 She was being, like, really irate with the police, 650 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,233 just like standing there bobbing her head and stuff. 651 00:22:41,300 --> 00:22:42,300 I'm like, "Ooh." 652 00:22:42,367 --> 00:22:44,800 She slows down and let the deer go across the road. 653 00:22:44,867 --> 00:22:46,033 The deer is already over there. 654 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:47,900 How did you hit the deer? Get out of here. 655 00:22:47,967 --> 00:22:49,633 I didn't purposely hit a deer. 656 00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:51,266 That makes no sense. 657 00:22:51,333 --> 00:22:53,967 I could have died. That's why I obviously sue her. 658 00:22:54,033 --> 00:22:56,367 And she, um--she said she was gonna give me money, 659 00:22:56,433 --> 00:22:57,633 but she obviously didn't 'cause she broke 660 00:22:57,700 --> 00:22:58,967 and she know she don't got no money. 661 00:22:59,033 --> 00:23:01,500 I ain't never talk to that girl again. [laughs] 662 00:23:01,567 --> 00:23:03,033 I ain't never talk to that girl again. 663 00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:04,934 [announcer] Are you being sued? 664 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,166 Let Tribunal Justice decide your case. 665 00:23:08,233 --> 00:23:12,400 Find us on social media at Tribunal Justice. 666 00:23:12,467 --> 00:23:15,633 ["Ride of the Valkyries" plays]