1 00:00:06,734 --> 00:00:09,834 You contracted with the defendant to build you a greenhouse. 2 00:00:10,900 --> 00:00:12,367 But it never happened. 3 00:00:12,433 --> 00:00:15,000 I did start. I purchased supplies. 4 00:00:15,066 --> 00:00:17,367 Why don't you have receipts for their work? 5 00:00:17,433 --> 00:00:22,100 There was flash flooding warnings and my shop was underwater. 6 00:00:22,166 --> 00:00:24,233 And then, the dog ate the receipts. 7 00:00:25,300 --> 00:00:27,133 They know you're a liar. You're a scammer. 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,433 Any scammer who comes before Tribunal will lose. 9 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:34,433 [announcer] Now on Tribunal Justice. 10 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:38,000 ["Ride of the Valkyries" plays] 11 00:00:55,867 --> 00:00:59,667 [announcer] Today's case was filed in Spartanburg, South Carolina. 12 00:00:59,734 --> 00:01:03,066 [Cassandra] Your Honor, this is case number 2051, 13 00:01:03,133 --> 00:01:06,200 Azbill versus Frost A. 14 00:01:06,266 --> 00:01:10,033 Your Honor, this is case number 2051B, Goldstein versus Frost. 15 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:12,066 - Thank you, Cassandra. - All parties have been sworn in. 16 00:01:12,133 --> 00:01:13,300 You may be seated. 17 00:01:13,934 --> 00:01:18,233 Okay. Let's see. This is a mini class action suit. 18 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:23,967 And a class action suit is a lawsuit being brought by individual plaintiffs 19 00:01:24,033 --> 00:01:25,633 having nothing to do with one another 20 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:30,967 but they are alleging the same wrongdoing by the same defendant. 21 00:01:31,033 --> 00:01:35,166 And basically what your position is, Mr. and Mrs. Azbill, 22 00:01:35,233 --> 00:01:38,967 is that you contracted with the defendant to build you a greenhouse. 23 00:01:39,033 --> 00:01:40,900 You got his information 24 00:01:40,967 --> 00:01:44,200 from Facebook Marketplace, and it never happened. 25 00:01:44,265 --> 00:01:47,866 That he made excuse after excuse and he hasn't returned 26 00:01:47,934 --> 00:01:51,100 your $4,105 as promised. 27 00:01:51,166 --> 00:01:54,400 Your position is they pulled the plug much too soon. 28 00:01:54,467 --> 00:01:57,000 Had they not, you would've actually finished the project, 29 00:01:57,066 --> 00:01:58,433 so you owe them nothing. 30 00:01:58,500 --> 00:02:01,800 Let's start. The first time you saw him on Facebook Marketplace 31 00:02:01,867 --> 00:02:03,767 was what date, do you know? 32 00:02:03,834 --> 00:02:06,567 - The 30th of August, I believe. - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 33 00:02:06,633 --> 00:02:08,199 On that day, what did you do? 34 00:02:08,265 --> 00:02:11,266 I reached out to him via Facebook Marketplace. 35 00:02:11,333 --> 00:02:15,000 There's some small talk back and forth regarding my wish to have a greenhouse. 36 00:02:15,066 --> 00:02:18,200 I spoke to him about it being kind of close to the house. 37 00:02:18,266 --> 00:02:19,300 He could run plumbing. 38 00:02:19,367 --> 00:02:21,533 He said he's a plumber too actually even. 39 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,100 And so I felt confident. 40 00:02:24,166 --> 00:02:25,900 Mr. Frost, are you a plumber? 41 00:02:25,966 --> 00:02:27,734 [David Frost] I have contractors. 42 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:28,966 [Judge DiMango] You can get contractors 43 00:02:29,033 --> 00:02:30,033 - but you yourself... - Yes. 44 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:31,500 ... are not personally a licensed plumber? 45 00:02:31,567 --> 00:02:32,966 [David Frost] No, I am not a licensed plumber. No, ma'am. 46 00:02:33,033 --> 00:02:35,133 - Okay. - The same thing I told the Goldsteins. 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,667 I have electricians that come in and plumbers. 48 00:02:38,734 --> 00:02:40,500 How many people do work with you at your company? 49 00:02:40,567 --> 00:02:43,600 Uh, currently I have one electrician, 50 00:02:43,667 --> 00:02:45,966 one plumber, and then four laborers. 51 00:02:46,033 --> 00:02:48,033 [Judge DiMango] Okay. So on the 31st, 52 00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:50,633 he delivers you a contract and an estimate. 53 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:52,834 And you actually sent them some photographs 54 00:02:52,900 --> 00:02:54,767 of what the structures would look like, 55 00:02:54,834 --> 00:02:55,834 - is that correct? - [David Frost] Correct. 56 00:02:55,900 --> 00:02:57,533 And we can show them up on the screen. 57 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,066 Now did you build these, sir? 58 00:02:59,133 --> 00:03:00,734 - Are these your greenhouses? - [David Frost] Yes, ma'am. Yes. 59 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,266 The one, uh, leaning on the house, that's a lean-to. 60 00:03:04,333 --> 00:03:08,633 And then, the one on the right, it's a post and beam 61 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:12,066 - but smaller of what they wanted. - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 62 00:03:12,133 --> 00:03:16,033 So now you sign the contract, you give him $4,105. 63 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:19,100 So when did you agree to begin with him? 64 00:03:19,166 --> 00:03:20,233 - When did you... - [Jennifer] The weekend of the 9th. 65 00:03:20,300 --> 00:03:22,800 Did you agree to do the work on the weekend of September 9th? 66 00:03:22,867 --> 00:03:24,333 I said I'd like to try 67 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,433 and get the supplies because it takes a little while. 68 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:27,533 No, you didn't say that. 69 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,600 [Jennifer] No, there's a signed agreement. 70 00:03:28,667 --> 00:03:30,667 - [Marshall] It's a signed contract. - You didn't say that, sir. 71 00:03:30,734 --> 00:03:33,667 - I read the papers. - It says--it says to be determined. 72 00:03:33,734 --> 00:03:35,133 - [Marshall] That one is not the contract. - [Jennifer] We actually 73 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,000 have a receipt that my husband wrote up 74 00:03:37,066 --> 00:03:39,166 because we felt it would be appropriate. 75 00:03:39,233 --> 00:03:40,800 Let's have the document that you have 76 00:03:40,867 --> 00:03:43,834 that you say has the date because that's the letter that we read in our file. 77 00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:46,300 That he signed and even offered his Social Security number at the time. 78 00:03:46,367 --> 00:03:47,500 [Judge DiMango] Thanks, Cassandra. 79 00:03:48,100 --> 00:03:53,400 Marshall Azbill of MGA Group hired Green Thumb Structures, that's you. 80 00:03:53,466 --> 00:03:56,966 We have agreed to a start date the weekend 81 00:03:57,033 --> 00:04:00,166 of 09/09/23 signed by you, correct? 82 00:04:00,233 --> 00:04:01,734 Your Honor, I did start. 83 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,133 I purchased supplies. 84 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,967 That is starting the job. 85 00:04:06,033 --> 00:04:07,834 - So you did start the job according to... - [David Frost] Yes, ma'am. 86 00:04:07,900 --> 00:04:09,500 ... you because you went out and made purchases. 87 00:04:09,567 --> 00:04:11,367 Purchases of what for the--for that? 88 00:04:11,433 --> 00:04:14,200 Uh, lumber and, uh, other supplies. 89 00:04:14,266 --> 00:04:16,399 - Uh, I have pictures. - [Judge DiMango] You have those receipts? 90 00:04:16,466 --> 00:04:18,433 - Excuse me? - I have pictures. 91 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:20,033 You have pictures of lumber. 92 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:21,399 - There they are up there. - [David Frost] Yeah. 93 00:04:21,466 --> 00:04:24,433 And that's great. Is that your lawn, ma'am? 94 00:04:24,500 --> 00:04:25,633 - [Marshall] No. - [Jennifer] No. 95 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:27,734 That's at my shop. 96 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,800 [Judge DiMango] Not at their home. 97 00:04:28,867 --> 00:04:30,667 - Did they ever get to your home? - No, ma'am. 98 00:04:30,734 --> 00:04:33,533 You don't have any pictures of any lumber in your yard? 99 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:34,600 - [Jennifer] No. - [Marshall] No. 100 00:04:34,667 --> 00:04:36,667 Maybe it was the invisible greenhouse. 101 00:04:36,734 --> 00:04:37,767 [laughs] 102 00:04:37,834 --> 00:04:40,800 Anyway, he doesn't come on September 9th because I have all your emails. 103 00:04:40,867 --> 00:04:43,233 I'm sorry I can't make it on September 9th 104 00:04:43,300 --> 00:04:45,700 because I forgot what your reason was on that one. 105 00:04:45,767 --> 00:04:48,633 [Jennifer] He said, I have an employee that had a court case. 106 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:50,734 I just said, okay, I'll give the guy benefit of the doubt, 107 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:51,800 - he has an employee... - [Judge DiMango] But you see, 108 00:04:51,867 --> 00:04:54,166 that to me was the first sign 109 00:04:54,233 --> 00:04:56,600 that you, sir, were a scammer. 110 00:04:56,667 --> 00:04:58,734 That was the first sign. Why? 111 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,200 Because nobody really cares about your employee's ability 112 00:05:03,266 --> 00:05:06,300 to go to court and that you should know that he was paying child support 113 00:05:06,367 --> 00:05:08,333 because you're the one who pays the child support, 114 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,266 and so therefore--that's unnecessary. 115 00:05:10,333 --> 00:05:13,600 Whenever people scam, they go on and on with useless, 116 00:05:13,667 --> 00:05:15,667 irrelevant details. 117 00:05:15,734 --> 00:05:18,100 So then the next thing, you send them a message, 118 00:05:18,166 --> 00:05:19,800 sorry, 9th not looking good. 119 00:05:19,867 --> 00:05:22,400 Now the lies begin, according to them. 120 00:05:22,467 --> 00:05:24,433 What do you tell them on the 11th. Do you remember? 121 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:26,667 I do because it's right here in the text message. 122 00:05:26,734 --> 00:05:28,967 You say, "My truck is packed and loaded. 123 00:05:29,033 --> 00:05:31,633 I'm just waiting for Amazon now." 124 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:33,033 New delay. 125 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:34,100 Amazon. 126 00:05:34,166 --> 00:05:35,667 On the 12th, what happens? 127 00:05:35,734 --> 00:05:37,667 - No sprinkler, right? - Right. 128 00:05:37,734 --> 00:05:39,300 [Judge DiMango] No sprinkler from Amazon. 129 00:05:39,367 --> 00:05:41,500 So far, we have an excuse on the 9th, the 10th, 130 00:05:41,567 --> 00:05:44,100 the 11th, the 12th, the 13th we're up to now. 131 00:05:44,166 --> 00:05:47,367 And on the 13th, what's your excuse on the 13th, do you know? 132 00:05:47,900 --> 00:05:49,900 Your machine wasn't working. 133 00:05:49,967 --> 00:05:52,567 You had a broken machine at the home. You remember that? 134 00:05:52,633 --> 00:05:53,633 - I remember. - I do. 135 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:55,266 [Judge DiMango] Okay. So now we have that. 136 00:05:55,332 --> 00:05:57,633 Now you tell them no more problems. 137 00:05:57,700 --> 00:05:59,400 You know why there was no more problems? 138 00:05:59,467 --> 00:06:00,667 - Because his father's tractor... - Because he was gonna have 139 00:06:00,734 --> 00:06:02,100 - the guys sleep over. - [Jennifer] Oh, right, right, right. 140 00:06:02,166 --> 00:06:03,300 - Another sleepover, yeah. - [Judge DiMango] He was gonna have 141 00:06:03,367 --> 00:06:04,800 the guys sleep over his house, 142 00:06:04,867 --> 00:06:07,667 so that when they got up in the morning, the loaded truck, 143 00:06:07,734 --> 00:06:11,567 the guy, the unbroken machine were all getting up and ready to go. 144 00:06:11,633 --> 00:06:12,667 - And... - [Jennifer] His father's tractor, 145 00:06:12,734 --> 00:06:14,000 he was gonna be borrowing with a backhoe. 146 00:06:14,066 --> 00:06:15,600 [Judge DiMango] And then what happened on the 14th? 147 00:06:15,667 --> 00:06:18,266 The babysitter didn't come on time. 148 00:06:18,332 --> 00:06:21,000 So on the 14th, you guys had had enough. 149 00:06:21,066 --> 00:06:22,233 Tell us what you said. 150 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:24,867 I basically gave him one last chance 151 00:06:24,934 --> 00:06:27,667 and I said or we'll just have to have our money. 152 00:06:27,734 --> 00:06:31,200 The next morning, he said, "I have guys calling out on me left and right. 153 00:06:31,266 --> 00:06:33,066 It looks like I'll just have to refund you." 154 00:06:33,133 --> 00:06:34,166 Which we then said give us the money. 155 00:06:34,233 --> 00:06:35,233 [Judge DiMango] Is that that what you said? 156 00:06:35,300 --> 00:06:36,367 - And he didn't do that either. - [David Frost] Yes. 157 00:06:36,433 --> 00:06:37,867 [Judge DiMango] Okay. Judge Levy? 158 00:06:37,933 --> 00:06:39,834 [Judge Levy] How come you didn't give it back? 159 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:42,867 [David Frost] Uh, there was material bought off of Facebook. 160 00:06:42,933 --> 00:06:44,834 I wanna see proof, because they told you the same thing. 161 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:46,367 I wanna see proof. 162 00:06:46,433 --> 00:06:48,033 - You're an IT guy, right? - [Marshall] Yes, sir. 163 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:49,933 You went online when he showed you those photographs? 164 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,433 What'd you find out about those photographs? 165 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:53,233 Costco makes a nice product 166 00:06:53,300 --> 00:06:54,600 - is what I found out. - [Judge Levy] Yeah, those--yeah, 167 00:06:54,667 --> 00:06:56,200 those are stock photographs. They know you're a liar. 168 00:06:56,266 --> 00:06:57,800 You're a scammer. You took the money. 169 00:06:57,867 --> 00:07:00,633 You put it in your pocket and you weren't gonna give it back. 170 00:07:00,700 --> 00:07:03,734 You think that you were actually gonna look good coming in here and lying? 171 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:07,467 [scoffs] You must have confused us with some other court show. 172 00:07:08,467 --> 00:07:09,867 - Let's see. - The one with that lady? 173 00:07:09,934 --> 00:07:11,367 [laughing] 174 00:07:11,433 --> 00:07:13,533 [Judge Levy] This ain't Judge Judy. She'll let you get away with that. 175 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,600 I don't. 176 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,200 I didn't say it. 177 00:07:16,266 --> 00:07:18,500 [laughing] 178 00:07:19,166 --> 00:07:21,233 [Judge Levy] All right. So now we know that you lied to them. 179 00:07:21,300 --> 00:07:23,667 Now we know that the contract pursuant to the terms 180 00:07:23,734 --> 00:07:25,633 you were supposed to start on September 9th. 181 00:07:25,700 --> 00:07:28,266 You also had to have a license in your state 182 00:07:28,332 --> 00:07:32,233 in order to build a greenhouse, which you also didn't have, right? 183 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:33,867 You're not licensed. We already checked. 184 00:07:33,933 --> 00:07:35,967 - You wanna lie about that too? Good. - I'm not. 185 00:07:36,033 --> 00:07:37,933 [Judge Levy] Right. So you're not licensed at all. 186 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,100 He didn't tell you that, right? 187 00:07:39,166 --> 00:07:41,567 [Marshall] No, sir. And I had to look up the Green Thumb afterwards. 188 00:07:41,633 --> 00:07:42,633 - Yes, sir. - [Judge Levy] Of course. 189 00:07:42,700 --> 00:07:44,433 And the Green Thumb is just nonsense. 190 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:47,000 It doesn't exist. It's you, 191 00:07:47,066 --> 00:07:48,800 - right? - Correct. 192 00:07:48,867 --> 00:07:52,433 [Judge Levy] The $4,100 that you stole from them, what'd you use the money for? 193 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:55,633 You say supplies, we're gonna have a real big problem. 194 00:07:55,700 --> 00:07:57,500 What'd you spend the money on? 195 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:01,100 I'm not gonna answer that question. 196 00:08:01,166 --> 00:08:03,767 That's okay. I--if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't either. 197 00:08:04,633 --> 00:08:07,033 Okay. Just to go over real briefly now, 198 00:08:07,100 --> 00:08:09,567 Judge DiMango asked you about Monday, September 11th. 199 00:08:09,633 --> 00:08:12,233 That's when he said that he bought this hydro system, 200 00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:13,300 - right? - [Jennifer] Oh, yeah. 201 00:08:13,367 --> 00:08:15,900 [Judge Levy] He's waiting for an Amazon delivery of a hydro system. 202 00:08:15,967 --> 00:08:17,667 He didn't have it. He doesn't have it today 203 00:08:17,734 --> 00:08:19,367 - because he never bought it. - [Marshall] Right. 204 00:08:19,433 --> 00:08:22,266 You stole their money. 205 00:08:22,332 --> 00:08:24,133 - [David Frost] No, I didn't. - [Judge Levy] Of course you did. 206 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,100 You performed zero of this contract. 207 00:08:27,166 --> 00:08:30,667 What was gonna happen, even if you did by some small chance, 208 00:08:30,734 --> 00:08:33,332 do what you said you were gonna do and build it? 209 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,799 What do you think would've happened when the building inspector came by 210 00:08:35,866 --> 00:08:37,567 and said, "Hey, guys. 211 00:08:38,933 --> 00:08:40,033 Who did this? 212 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:41,567 This is all coming down." 213 00:08:41,633 --> 00:08:43,533 Because they would've given your name, 214 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,667 building inspector would've looked up your background, 215 00:08:45,734 --> 00:08:48,333 saw that you were not licensed, insured, 216 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,500 bonded, all the plumbing work, electrical work, gone, ripped out. 217 00:08:52,567 --> 00:08:53,900 You knew that, right? 218 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:55,800 No, sir. 219 00:08:55,867 --> 00:08:57,867 How long you been in construction? 220 00:08:57,934 --> 00:08:59,834 About 15 years. 221 00:08:59,900 --> 00:09:02,367 Really? Let's go to your contract itself. 222 00:09:02,433 --> 00:09:03,533 I looked at that. 223 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,367 It says compliance with laws. 224 00:09:05,433 --> 00:09:09,633 What it says is you will provide service in compliance with all local laws, 225 00:09:09,700 --> 00:09:12,834 which include permits, applications, licenses, and insurance. 226 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:14,133 You breached that. 227 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,867 That paragraph 6, materials and labor provided. 228 00:09:16,934 --> 00:09:19,533 You will provide a list of each and every party 229 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,033 furnishing material and/or labor. 230 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:23,100 You breached it. 231 00:09:23,166 --> 00:09:26,000 So here we are, you trying to hold them 232 00:09:26,066 --> 00:09:29,834 to a bogus contract when you yourself didn't do anything in it 233 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:32,734 to support your following the terms and conditions. 234 00:09:33,633 --> 00:09:36,533 I mean, how did you think this was gonna play out? 235 00:09:38,033 --> 00:09:40,700 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 236 00:09:40,767 --> 00:09:42,834 Why don't you have the other receipts for their work? 237 00:09:42,900 --> 00:09:45,700 - Uh, there was flash flooding warnings. - [Judge Acker] Uh-hmm. 238 00:09:45,767 --> 00:09:48,266 My shop was underwater. 239 00:09:48,333 --> 00:09:50,033 And then the dog ate the receipts. 240 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:51,934 [dramatic musical sting] 241 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:55,667 [theme music plays] 242 00:09:55,734 --> 00:09:57,967 [announcer] Couples Jennifer and Marshall Azbill... 243 00:09:58,033 --> 00:10:02,400 and Erin and David Goldstein are suing contractor David Frost 244 00:10:02,467 --> 00:10:04,433 after they claim he took their money 245 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:08,166 to build greenhouses and never did any work. 246 00:10:08,233 --> 00:10:12,433 But David says both couples never gave him time to complete the jobs, 247 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:15,166 as indicated in their contracts. 248 00:10:15,233 --> 00:10:17,300 I'm curious. How old are you? 249 00:10:17,367 --> 00:10:18,700 [David Frost] Thirty-three, Your Honor. 250 00:10:18,767 --> 00:10:20,533 - [Judge Levy] You got kids? - Yes, I do. 251 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,800 - [Judge Levy] How many? - I have three. 252 00:10:22,867 --> 00:10:24,333 How old are they? 253 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,100 Twelve, seven, and two. 254 00:10:27,166 --> 00:10:29,200 You know who kids look up to? 255 00:10:29,266 --> 00:10:30,500 - Their father. - [Judge Levy] First and foremost? 256 00:10:30,567 --> 00:10:31,800 You're damn right. 257 00:10:31,867 --> 00:10:33,700 That's who they want to be. 258 00:10:34,066 --> 00:10:37,533 Do you want your kids growing up to be just like you? 259 00:10:39,133 --> 00:10:41,333 - No, Your Honor. - [Judge Levy] Do better. 260 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:42,967 Judge Acker. 261 00:10:43,033 --> 00:10:46,533 Mr. Frost, let's go back to some evidence that you say that you had. 262 00:10:46,934 --> 00:10:49,867 And it's great because I have all these devices up here. 263 00:10:49,934 --> 00:10:52,533 So we can just cut to the chase. 264 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,367 They were looking for QR codes. 265 00:10:54,433 --> 00:10:56,867 You show me the receipts or just give me the order number, 266 00:10:56,934 --> 00:10:58,834 I'll look it up now and then we'll all know 267 00:10:58,900 --> 00:11:01,000 that you didn't commit a big crime. 268 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:03,000 [Jennifer] And we requested the QR codes. 269 00:11:03,066 --> 00:11:04,333 - [Judge Acker] Yeah, I saw that. - But [indistinct] return it. 270 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,567 [Judge Acker] Because it's so easy. 271 00:11:05,633 --> 00:11:06,900 This is the sprinkler. 272 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,100 - That's the... - And this is what you received? 273 00:11:09,166 --> 00:11:11,633 No. And that's--doesn't look like it's under an order. 274 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:12,700 [Judge Acker] Yeah, let's see. 275 00:11:12,767 --> 00:11:13,767 - Let's take a look. - Well, if you go-- 276 00:11:13,834 --> 00:11:16,066 if you press back, it says buy again. 277 00:11:16,133 --> 00:11:20,100 [Judge Acker] It says Wi-Fi sprinkler timer. 278 00:11:20,166 --> 00:11:21,700 And you've pulled it up 279 00:11:21,767 --> 00:11:25,066 and it says actually that it was last purchased 280 00:11:25,133 --> 00:11:27,433 on September 10th, 2023. 281 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:30,066 And is this the purchase that you claim you made for them? 282 00:11:30,133 --> 00:11:31,133 Yes. 283 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,533 [Judge Acker] Let's see where it went. 284 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,300 - To my... - [David Frost] It was to my home. 285 00:11:34,367 --> 00:11:36,767 You purchased it on 2023 286 00:11:36,834 --> 00:11:39,100 and then it went to your house and then where'd it go? 287 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,834 It went with the rest of the supplies. 288 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:44,000 Which is where? 289 00:11:44,266 --> 00:11:45,300 At my shop. 290 00:11:45,967 --> 00:11:47,667 [Judge Acker] Why didn't you give it to them? 291 00:11:47,734 --> 00:11:49,633 Why didn't you return it to Amazon? 292 00:11:49,700 --> 00:11:54,233 What was the point of buying it and not delivering it? 293 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,734 I don't know, Your Honor. 294 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,900 [Judge Acker] That's strange. 295 00:11:59,967 --> 00:12:02,200 You know what else is strange? 296 00:12:02,266 --> 00:12:05,000 Why don't you have the other receipts for their work? 297 00:12:05,066 --> 00:12:07,100 Because--okay. 298 00:12:07,166 --> 00:12:10,767 Just recently, we had a pretty decent rainstorm. 299 00:12:11,166 --> 00:12:14,934 And there was flash flooding warnings. 300 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,066 - [Judge Acker] Uh-hmm. - And my shop was underwater. 301 00:12:19,133 --> 00:12:21,433 And then, the dog ate the receipts. 302 00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:24,400 I think I've heard enough on this matter. 303 00:12:24,467 --> 00:12:25,700 I don't have anything further. 304 00:12:25,767 --> 00:12:26,767 Judge. 305 00:12:26,834 --> 00:12:29,233 Basically the gig is up here. 306 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:31,266 Where'd the money go? What happened? 307 00:12:32,233 --> 00:12:36,266 Ma'am, I am a young father 308 00:12:36,333 --> 00:12:38,266 - trying to make it by with... - [Judge DiMango] Yeah, I had a father 309 00:12:38,333 --> 00:12:40,233 who was young too when I was born but he didn't start 310 00:12:40,300 --> 00:12:41,300 - stealing from people. - [David Frost] I mean, 311 00:12:41,367 --> 00:12:44,867 I'm just trying to make it by with what I can with whatever jobs I can. 312 00:12:44,934 --> 00:12:46,300 I'm trying to do what I can. 313 00:12:46,367 --> 00:12:48,100 [Judge DiMango] So what did you do here? 314 00:12:48,165 --> 00:12:49,800 Why didn't you do what you had to do? 315 00:12:49,867 --> 00:12:51,100 - What is all this baloney? - [David Frost] I... 316 00:12:51,165 --> 00:12:52,165 Why? 317 00:12:52,233 --> 00:12:55,133 I had a really--I have a bad truck 318 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,633 that just doesn't wanna run properly. 319 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:58,400 So you used this money towards other things 320 00:12:58,467 --> 00:13:02,133 and you really were just stringing them along until you could get yourself moving. 321 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,200 [David Frost] No. No, ma'am. I... 322 00:13:03,266 --> 00:13:04,467 [Judge DiMango] Yeah, that's what you did. 323 00:13:04,533 --> 00:13:06,300 Why didn't you wanna give him any more days? 324 00:13:06,367 --> 00:13:07,934 - I'm just curious. - [Marshall] We actually-- 325 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,900 - we gave him I think... - [Judge DiMango] Because he had-- 326 00:13:09,967 --> 00:13:11,433 - his contract does say he has 30 days. - It does 327 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:13,667 and we didn't file until the 31 or 32-- 328 00:13:13,734 --> 00:13:16,333 so we did wait until the 30th day before I filed, Your Honor, 329 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,400 - just to follow the proper... - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 330 00:13:17,467 --> 00:13:19,300 That's--just curious as to what your reasons were. 331 00:13:19,367 --> 00:13:20,667 - I know what my reasons could be but... - [Marshall] My reason 332 00:13:20,734 --> 00:13:23,133 was keeping my wife happy in this whole process. 333 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,533 - [Judge Levy] Smart man. - That--so that was my thing, Your Honor. 334 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:26,600 - Okay. All right. - [Marshall] That I didn't like 335 00:13:26,667 --> 00:13:29,266 this from the beginning but a happy wife, happy life. 336 00:13:29,333 --> 00:13:30,333 And that's what I was trying 337 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,400 - to go through, yes. - [Judge DiMango] Happy wife, happy life. 338 00:13:31,467 --> 00:13:33,767 But no greenhouse, you're gonna buy your herbs in the supermarket 339 00:13:33,834 --> 00:13:35,600 - like everybody else. - I'm fine doing that, yes. Yeah. 340 00:13:35,667 --> 00:13:37,367 [Judge DiMango] Okay. Very good. Thank you. 341 00:13:37,433 --> 00:13:38,433 [Judge Acker] Thank you. 342 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:39,500 - You may take a seat. - Okay. 343 00:13:39,567 --> 00:13:42,000 And I'll ask the Goldsteins to take the stand, please. 344 00:13:43,066 --> 00:13:46,500 Mr. and Mrs. Goldstein, you're also suing the defendant. 345 00:13:46,567 --> 00:13:49,233 You're seeking a refund of $2,500 346 00:13:49,300 --> 00:13:51,233 for a deposit you made for him 347 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:54,767 to construct a greenhouse that was not built. 348 00:13:54,834 --> 00:13:56,900 Mr. Frost, your defense in this matter 349 00:13:56,967 --> 00:14:00,667 is that the Goldsteins canceled within three days of the time 350 00:14:00,734 --> 00:14:03,233 that you had to start and you owe them no money. 351 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:06,567 You signed the contract with the defendant on November 8th. 352 00:14:06,633 --> 00:14:08,400 - Correct. - [Judge Acker] And as I read 353 00:14:08,467 --> 00:14:11,934 the contract, he has within 30 days to start. 354 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,734 - So that would bring us to December 8th. - [David Goldstein] Correct. 355 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,800 However, the text messages indicate 356 00:14:17,867 --> 00:14:19,633 that he'd made a representation to you 357 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:22,834 that he was going to start the work before December 8th. 358 00:14:22,900 --> 00:14:24,900 - Yes. - Uh, do you recall when that was? 359 00:14:24,967 --> 00:14:28,967 Um, we--he met us on the, uh, 8th at our home. 360 00:14:29,033 --> 00:14:31,800 So, he did drive out from South Carolina to Georgia, 361 00:14:31,867 --> 00:14:34,333 met us at our home under the premise of looking at the site, 362 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,400 making sure there was no grading or anything that needed to be done. 363 00:14:37,467 --> 00:14:39,333 Um, yes, we signed the contract. 364 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,767 And before he left, he agreed upon starting, 365 00:14:42,834 --> 00:14:45,867 um, either that Monday or Tuesday, which would've been the 13th 366 00:14:45,934 --> 00:14:47,900 - or 14th. - [Judge Acker] Monday was November 13th. 367 00:14:47,967 --> 00:14:52,633 In fact, there is a message from either you or your husband. 368 00:14:52,700 --> 00:14:55,767 "Hi, David. Just touching base, I know you'd mentioned 369 00:14:55,834 --> 00:14:58,600 an expected start day of today or tomorrow." 370 00:14:58,667 --> 00:15:01,934 That would be November 13th or November 14th. 371 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,133 What you said on November 14th was, 372 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,967 "I'm running a little behind." 373 00:15:08,033 --> 00:15:09,700 But all in caps, 374 00:15:09,767 --> 00:15:14,967 "But either me or my lead guy is gonna come out 375 00:15:15,033 --> 00:15:17,467 either tomorrow or the next day." 376 00:15:17,533 --> 00:15:19,734 - Do you recall saying that? - [David Frost] Yes. 377 00:15:20,433 --> 00:15:22,633 [Judge Acker] Did you come out tomorrow or the next day? 378 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:24,467 - No, ma'am. - What happened? 379 00:15:24,533 --> 00:15:26,066 I had truck problems. 380 00:15:26,133 --> 00:15:27,467 [Judge Acker] You had truck problems? 381 00:15:27,533 --> 00:15:29,233 What truck problem did you have? 382 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:34,233 Uh, the valve cover was leaking 383 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:36,100 and the, uh... 384 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,033 ... fourth, uh, spark plug was burned up. 385 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:42,533 You look very sleepy. You look like you're nodding off. 386 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,100 - Are you under the influence of anything? - No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 387 00:15:46,165 --> 00:15:48,233 Uh, I did fix my truck. 388 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:49,900 Uh, I had... 389 00:15:49,967 --> 00:15:51,834 - How long did it take you? - [David Frost] About... 390 00:15:52,834 --> 00:15:54,066 - [Judge Acker] Three days? - ... four to five days. 391 00:15:54,133 --> 00:15:56,100 Four to five days? 392 00:15:56,165 --> 00:15:57,266 - My goodness. - [David Frost] Yes, ma'am. 393 00:15:57,333 --> 00:16:01,166 [Judge Acker] So, after you fixed your truck, sir, what happened? 394 00:16:01,233 --> 00:16:04,600 I loaded up and I was on my way. 395 00:16:04,667 --> 00:16:07,066 It was raining currently that day. 396 00:16:07,734 --> 00:16:11,400 I stopped at Harbor Freight to get tarps. 397 00:16:11,767 --> 00:16:14,900 Um, I did cover the concrete. 398 00:16:15,367 --> 00:16:18,066 The tarps kept flying off the material. 399 00:16:18,133 --> 00:16:20,000 [Judge Acker] And then the concrete was ruined? 400 00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:21,333 - Yes. - [Judge Acker] So, I'd like you 401 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,266 to show me a picture of the damaged concrete. 402 00:16:23,333 --> 00:16:26,400 And I'd also like a receipt for the concrete that you purchased. 403 00:16:26,467 --> 00:16:27,500 - They didn't... - [Judge Acker] Do you have that? 404 00:16:27,567 --> 00:16:31,033 They didn't ask for a picture and no, ma'am, I don't have the receipt. 405 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:32,200 [Judge Acker] No receipt? 406 00:16:32,266 --> 00:16:34,133 Surprise, surprise. 407 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,467 Judge DiMango. 408 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,767 You know, once again, 409 00:16:37,834 --> 00:16:40,867 uh, we really could've just interposed these texts 410 00:16:40,934 --> 00:16:43,033 onto the first case that we did 411 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:45,767 because they're all fraught with the same things. 412 00:16:45,834 --> 00:16:49,066 However, you guys were getting texts in the middle of the night on this, 413 00:16:49,133 --> 00:16:50,533 - but... - Well, he wouldn't communicate 414 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,367 and just dropped off. And then you'd get a... 415 00:16:52,433 --> 00:16:53,700 - We... - ... text in the middle of the night. 416 00:16:53,767 --> 00:16:56,533 We'd get no responses during the day to any of our communications 417 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,233 reaching out to him and then wake up the next morning, 418 00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:01,367 had received something at midnight, 1:00 in the morning. 419 00:17:01,433 --> 00:17:03,266 Well, I did see that. But, you know, you guys, 420 00:17:03,333 --> 00:17:05,834 you missed the part where he left his phone home. 421 00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:07,200 [Erin] We did miss that. 422 00:17:07,266 --> 00:17:11,934 We asked for our refund when we realized we felt we had been caught in a con, 423 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,900 which we expressed to him, I felt we had been caught in a con, 424 00:17:14,967 --> 00:17:16,867 and that he was just making regular excuses. 425 00:17:16,934 --> 00:17:19,200 After I felt we had been caught in something, 426 00:17:19,266 --> 00:17:20,599 I started doing some digging. 427 00:17:20,666 --> 00:17:21,900 - [Judge DiMango] So, let's see... - I had a friend help me 428 00:17:21,967 --> 00:17:23,567 do some digging and realized 429 00:17:23,633 --> 00:17:26,200 we actually share the same photos 430 00:17:26,266 --> 00:17:27,333 - that he sent us [indistinct]. - [Judge DiMango] And that's what 431 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:28,867 I wanna bring up now. Okay. 432 00:17:28,934 --> 00:17:30,266 - This is the greenhouse... - [Erin] That's the greenhouse. 433 00:17:30,333 --> 00:17:31,800 ... that you claim you built. 434 00:17:31,867 --> 00:17:33,200 You sent these photos 435 00:17:33,266 --> 00:17:35,367 - to the Goldsteins, correct? - [David Frost] Yes, ma'am. 436 00:17:35,433 --> 00:17:36,533 [Judge DiMango] You sent that to them as well. 437 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,300 That's the same photographs that you sent the Azbills, 438 00:17:40,367 --> 00:17:42,567 - is that correct as well? - [David Frost] Yes, ma'am. 439 00:17:42,633 --> 00:17:46,033 I told them, uh, it was around Thanksgiving. 440 00:17:46,100 --> 00:17:50,533 I said, "Wednesday after Thanksgiving, you guys can come pick up the supplies." 441 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,600 - And they refused. - [Judge DiMango] Okay. 442 00:17:52,667 --> 00:17:54,166 - No. Well--okay. - [Judge DiMango] Well, I'm gonna 443 00:17:54,233 --> 00:17:56,767 pass this over to Judge Levy. 444 00:17:57,333 --> 00:18:00,100 You said you did some background research 445 00:18:00,166 --> 00:18:01,900 once you realized it was a con? 446 00:18:01,967 --> 00:18:02,967 - Yeah. - Yes, sir. 447 00:18:03,033 --> 00:18:04,166 [Judge Levy] What'd you find out? 448 00:18:05,233 --> 00:18:07,834 [announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice. 449 00:18:07,900 --> 00:18:10,500 - I don't have a criminal past of... - [Judge Levy] Didn't? 450 00:18:10,567 --> 00:18:11,633 ... grand larceny. 451 00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:13,934 What happened in August of 2020? 452 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,900 You spent eight months in jail, right? 453 00:18:15,967 --> 00:18:17,467 [dramatic musical sting] 454 00:18:19,266 --> 00:18:21,100 [theme music plays] 455 00:18:21,166 --> 00:18:23,333 [announcer] Couples Jennifer and Marshall Azbill, 456 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,767 and Erin and David Goldstein are suing 457 00:18:25,834 --> 00:18:29,834 contractor David Frost after they claim he took their money 458 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:33,533 to build greenhouses and never did any work. 459 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,834 But David says both couples never gave him time to complete the jobs 460 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:40,100 as indicated in their contracts. 461 00:18:40,667 --> 00:18:43,166 You said you did some background research 462 00:18:43,233 --> 00:18:45,000 once you realized it was a con? 463 00:18:45,066 --> 00:18:46,133 - [David Goldstein] Yeah. - [Erin] Yes, sir. 464 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,567 What'd you find out? 465 00:18:47,633 --> 00:18:49,633 Um, I had a friend help kind of just do some dig around 466 00:18:49,700 --> 00:18:52,567 'cause I was just--I just felt obviously something wasn't right. 467 00:18:52,633 --> 00:18:57,066 And we learned that there was, uh, an arrest earlier in 2023 468 00:18:57,133 --> 00:18:59,500 and that there was an outstanding civil litigation, 469 00:18:59,567 --> 00:19:02,433 which turned out to be Jen and Marshall Azbill 470 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:07,066 and, um, did some search on the business, that the business didn't exist. 471 00:19:07,133 --> 00:19:08,400 He told us that it was licensed... 472 00:19:08,467 --> 00:19:09,734 - Licensed and bonded. - ... and bonded. 473 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,000 The contract that we had even states how he'll get all permitting. 474 00:19:13,066 --> 00:19:15,200 Um, obviously no, none of that took place. 475 00:19:15,266 --> 00:19:17,000 The business didn't exist. 476 00:19:17,066 --> 00:19:21,633 Um, I did go and seek out the Azbills on social media, 477 00:19:21,700 --> 00:19:25,400 see if I could find him to reach out, asked if that was them, 478 00:19:25,467 --> 00:19:28,467 that we were in a situation with David Frost. 479 00:19:28,533 --> 00:19:31,867 And she was like, "Oh, oh, yes. Call me." 480 00:19:31,934 --> 00:19:34,133 And as she spoke to me, 481 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,333 - it was eerie that it just mirrored... - [David Goldstein] Yeah. 482 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,000 [Erin] ... one another, our circumstances. 483 00:19:39,066 --> 00:19:42,734 So, we have you committing multiple crimes 484 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,633 in different states. 485 00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:48,033 And you actually sent him a text in which you said 486 00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:51,166 that you're aware of his arrest history. 487 00:19:51,233 --> 00:19:52,867 You got that text, right? 488 00:19:52,934 --> 00:19:54,033 Yes. 489 00:19:54,100 --> 00:19:56,333 [Judge Levy] So, here you are being accused 490 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,200 of committing serious fraud, grand larceny. 491 00:20:00,667 --> 00:20:02,734 And now, you're being told 492 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,600 that the people that you are committing the crime against, 493 00:20:05,667 --> 00:20:09,266 the victims are aware of your criminal past. 494 00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:13,633 I don't have a criminal past of grand larceny. 495 00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:14,867 What do you have a past of? 496 00:20:15,567 --> 00:20:16,967 DUIs. 497 00:20:17,033 --> 00:20:19,300 What happened in August of 2020? 498 00:20:19,367 --> 00:20:21,166 You spent eight months in jail, right? 499 00:20:21,967 --> 00:20:24,066 You were incarcerated in Indiana, weren't you? 500 00:20:24,133 --> 00:20:25,266 - Yes. - [Judge Levy] Uh-hmm. 501 00:20:25,867 --> 00:20:29,533 Listen, you don't wanna talk about that crime that you committed, do you? 502 00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:31,100 No, I don't. 503 00:20:31,166 --> 00:20:32,567 [Judge Levy] Not proud of that, are you? 504 00:20:32,633 --> 00:20:37,033 Well, the case was not, uh, a... 505 00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:38,100 [indistinct] 506 00:20:38,166 --> 00:20:41,667 ... the--there was no statement taken from me. 507 00:20:41,734 --> 00:20:44,300 There was--the case-- 508 00:20:45,133 --> 00:20:47,500 ... it was--it was all unheard. 509 00:20:47,567 --> 00:20:49,934 - Uh, they... - You spent eight months in jail. 510 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,567 Yes, because my attorney told me that... 511 00:20:52,633 --> 00:20:55,633 Uh, you know, when people tell me that their attorneys told them, 512 00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:58,233 - so in other words, you had a lawyer? - Yes. 513 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:02,667 And your lawyer had the information regarding what you were being accused of? 514 00:21:02,734 --> 00:21:03,767 Yes. 515 00:21:03,834 --> 00:21:08,233 And the lawyer knows and told you what the maximum penalty was 516 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:11,667 if you went to trial, were convicted, and lost? 517 00:21:12,333 --> 00:21:14,066 You go away for a very long time. 518 00:21:14,133 --> 00:21:15,567 - Yes. - [Judge Levy] Yeah. 519 00:21:15,633 --> 00:21:20,333 So, my point is, all these two people had to do was call the police. 520 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:25,300 And you knew that if they did that, your world is over. 521 00:21:25,367 --> 00:21:27,033 You hurt people. 522 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:30,667 And when these people are asking you to give them back their money, 523 00:21:30,734 --> 00:21:32,767 you were willing to throw caution in the wind. 524 00:21:32,834 --> 00:21:35,633 I told the Goldsteins they could come Wednesday. 525 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:36,800 It's not the point that I'm making. 526 00:21:36,867 --> 00:21:39,600 And the fact that you don't understand that, sir, it's frightening. 527 00:21:39,667 --> 00:21:40,667 I have nothing further. 528 00:21:40,734 --> 00:21:42,166 [Judge DiMango] We're gonna retire to deliberate... 529 00:21:42,233 --> 00:21:43,233 - Okay. All right. - ... at this time. 530 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:44,300 - Thank you very much, everyone - Thank you. 531 00:21:44,367 --> 00:21:46,400 This case is now in recess. 532 00:21:46,467 --> 00:21:48,000 Parties will be recalled. 533 00:21:48,066 --> 00:21:51,166 [dramatic musical sting] 534 00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:54,767 I think what we need to address amongst the three of us 535 00:21:54,834 --> 00:21:58,200 is there is a contract that says that this was his start date, 536 00:21:58,266 --> 00:22:01,567 but then clearly in the provision it says he has 30 days within 537 00:22:01,633 --> 00:22:02,800 which to complete this. 538 00:22:02,867 --> 00:22:06,266 So, did they prematurely cut him off and stop him, 539 00:22:06,333 --> 00:22:10,734 and is he correct that this lawsuit is not right at that time or not? 540 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,333 And I think it's pretty clear that when you put a paragraph like that in, 541 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,433 you have every intention of doing the job, 542 00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:18,567 following through with it, and completing it. 543 00:22:18,633 --> 00:22:20,700 I think that his behavior throughout 544 00:22:20,767 --> 00:22:23,400 with regard to these two particular clients of his 545 00:22:23,467 --> 00:22:25,433 was pretty obvious from the start 546 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:28,400 he was not going to do any work as promised. 547 00:22:28,467 --> 00:22:30,133 He was taking their money, 548 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,667 using it towards something else 549 00:22:31,734 --> 00:22:34,000 'cause he pretty much said he used it towards other things. 550 00:22:34,066 --> 00:22:35,367 He just didn't wanna say. 551 00:22:35,433 --> 00:22:39,033 I mean, listen, he didn't perjure himself to that extent with what he did with it. 552 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:40,200 They caught on. 553 00:22:40,266 --> 00:22:44,066 And I think at that point, they had every right to terminate the contract 554 00:22:44,133 --> 00:22:46,467 despite that provision in his papers. 555 00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:49,767 [Judge Levy] And his problem was that he picked on the wrong four people. 556 00:22:49,834 --> 00:22:51,767 If he spent half as much time 557 00:22:51,834 --> 00:22:53,800 just doing what he was supposed to do 558 00:22:53,867 --> 00:22:57,233 as opposed to jerking around and stealing and scamming, 559 00:22:57,300 --> 00:22:59,033 he probably would be successful. 560 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,367 But there's something else going on in his life 561 00:23:01,433 --> 00:23:02,633 that's not making that possible. 562 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:04,467 And I hope for the betterment of his children 563 00:23:04,533 --> 00:23:06,066 that he gets his act together. 564 00:23:06,133 --> 00:23:09,000 He gave them no basis to think that he was gonna do anything 565 00:23:09,066 --> 00:23:12,367 that he said he was going to do or that he committed to doing. 566 00:23:12,433 --> 00:23:15,200 Sure, he had 30 days within which to start. 567 00:23:15,266 --> 00:23:18,400 But in both cases, he told them, "I'm gonna be there on the 13th, 568 00:23:18,467 --> 00:23:20,300 the 14th, the 17th, the 20th." 569 00:23:20,367 --> 00:23:21,433 And that's what made it clear. 570 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:22,500 - He wasn't gonna... - That's what made it clear. 571 00:23:22,567 --> 00:23:23,567 - ... do his job. - And there's no evidence 572 00:23:23,633 --> 00:23:24,867 that he even did anything. 573 00:23:24,934 --> 00:23:27,500 I mean, you know he kept saying, "Oh, I bought materials. 574 00:23:27,567 --> 00:23:28,834 I bought this." He shows me the Amazon. 575 00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:30,333 Those sprinkler heads didn't convince you? 576 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,834 - It was... - No, he shows me 577 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:34,033 that there were some sprinkler heads ordered 578 00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:35,500 but they never went anywhere. 579 00:23:35,567 --> 00:23:37,567 Everything got lost in the shop. 580 00:23:37,633 --> 00:23:39,066 There was nothing credible there. 581 00:23:39,133 --> 00:23:42,266 I think that all parties are entitled to a refund of their money. 582 00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:43,567 - Hundred percent. - Me too. 583 00:23:43,633 --> 00:23:45,200 Unanimous. 584 00:23:45,266 --> 00:23:48,367 [dramatic musical sting] 585 00:23:48,433 --> 00:23:49,600 Court is back in session. 586 00:23:49,667 --> 00:23:51,667 Parties are reminded that you're still under oath. 587 00:23:51,734 --> 00:23:52,734 [Judge DiMango] Thank you. 588 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:56,767 Well, whatever is happening in your life 589 00:23:56,834 --> 00:24:01,400 is apparently interfering with your business world. 590 00:24:01,467 --> 00:24:03,667 And that is not good 591 00:24:03,734 --> 00:24:06,600 because you end up with what we have in here. 592 00:24:06,667 --> 00:24:07,967 On top of that, 593 00:24:08,033 --> 00:24:09,934 everything about your text messages 594 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,734 indicates that you scammed these people. 595 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,667 You lied morning after morning, day after day. 596 00:24:14,734 --> 00:24:17,333 And you actually had the nerve to put a quote in here. 597 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,934 You said it to the Goldsteins, I think. 598 00:24:19,433 --> 00:24:22,567 Proverbs 26:17 says, 599 00:24:22,633 --> 00:24:25,166 "Whoever meddles in a quarrel not his own 600 00:24:25,233 --> 00:24:27,734 is like one who takes a passing dog 601 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,066 - by the ears." - Yeah. 602 00:24:29,133 --> 00:24:31,066 [Judge DiMango] Well, I got a quote from Confucius. 603 00:24:31,133 --> 00:24:35,166 Any scammer who comes before Tribunal will lose. 604 00:24:35,567 --> 00:24:37,233 So you, sir, have lost. 605 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:40,800 There was no intent from the inception for you to carry through 606 00:24:40,867 --> 00:24:44,533 with building their greenhouses, none. 607 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,667 So, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. and Mrs. Goldstein, 608 00:24:47,734 --> 00:24:50,133 you have prevailed in the amount of $2,500. 609 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,100 Mr. and Mrs. Azbill, you have both prevailed in the amount of $4,105. 610 00:24:55,166 --> 00:24:57,934 The verdict as to all of you is unanimous by this court. 611 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,166 And the admonitions to you, sir, 612 00:25:00,233 --> 00:25:01,667 come from each one of us 613 00:25:01,734 --> 00:25:04,700 who really feel that you have done a disservice 614 00:25:04,767 --> 00:25:07,367 to not only these people but probably others as well. 615 00:25:07,433 --> 00:25:09,467 So, please do something with your life. 616 00:25:09,533 --> 00:25:10,667 That's the verdict of the court. 617 00:25:10,734 --> 00:25:11,734 - [gavel bangs] - [Marshall] Thank you, Your Honors. 618 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,800 - Thank you, Your Honor. - Thank you, Your Honor. 619 00:25:12,867 --> 00:25:14,133 [Cassandra] This case has concluded. 620 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,834 All parties are excused. 621 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:18,600 [theme music plays] 622 00:25:18,667 --> 00:25:22,500 For them calling me a fraud, a scammer, I don't believe in it. 623 00:25:22,567 --> 00:25:24,433 Uh, we kind of felt robbed. 624 00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:26,867 I did not scam them. 625 00:25:26,934 --> 00:25:27,967 We've got two young kids. 626 00:25:28,033 --> 00:25:30,900 I just wanna be able to build my own or have my own vegetables 627 00:25:30,967 --> 00:25:32,033 right at my backyard. 628 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:33,233 They're rich snobs. 629 00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:34,734 You know, it was definitely a violation, 630 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,834 you know, with him sitting at our kitchen table, discussing this. 631 00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:39,667 To be honest, I got a lot of other happy people. 632 00:25:39,734 --> 00:25:43,133 I give them trust until they break it and David obviously broke it. 633 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,300 I really don't care. 634 00:25:44,367 --> 00:25:45,533 Justice did prevail. 635 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,467 Uh, I don't care. 636 00:25:48,533 --> 00:25:49,967 - Watch out for David Frost. - [Marshall laughs] 637 00:25:50,433 --> 00:25:52,367 [announcer] Did someone break an agreement? 638 00:25:52,433 --> 00:25:55,800 Let Tribunal Justice decide your case. 639 00:25:55,867 --> 00:25:58,467 Find us on social media. 640 00:25:58,533 --> 00:26:01,633 ["Ride of the Valkyries" plays]