We are here because you don't wanna pay her that other money.
That's not what happened. Carol has a vendetta against me.
I never said I wouldn't pay.
I didn't want to come here.
I couldn't think straight.
- I never said I wouldn't pay her. - Ma'am. Ma'am.
- Ma'am. - That's the whole thing.
I never said I wouldn't pay her.
I think she's freaking out here 'cause you got mean.
[announcer] Now on Tribunal Justice.
["Ride of the Valkyries" plays]
[announcer] Today's case was filed in Santa Ynez, California.
[Byrd] Your Honor, this is case number 2072
on the calendar in the matter of Bennett versus Ciaccio.
[Judge Acker] Thank you, Byrd.
[Byrd] Parties have been sworn in.
You may be seated.
[Judge Acker] You, ma'am, you and your husband run horse shows
and you run a very specific type of horse shows.
- [Carole] Yes, ma'am. - Dressage.
It's sort of a type of riding where the rider and the horse
are almost dancing together.
- Exactly. - [Judge Acker] Right?
You run these shows with your husband, as you describe it in your complaint.
It's not a big for-profit venture.
- And, Ms. Ciaccio, you are a rider. - I am.
Your daughter-- that's not your daughter, Brooklyn.
- [Christina] That's my mother. - [laughter]
[Judge Acker] But your daughter, Brooklyn, is how old?
- [Christina] She's 10. - [Judge Acker] So you and Brooklyn ride.
You signed up for one of the plaintiff's shows.
- [Christina] Uh-hmm. - You got sick and...
Really sick, unfortunately.
So sick, in fact, you said there was fluid in your lungs.
- Uh-hmm. - You weren't able to make the show.
- Yeah. - The plaintiff maintains
that you should nonetheless still pay for the balance
of the show, and she's suing you for $290.
- [Christina] Right. - [Judge Acker] Your position is,
"I'll pay you the office fees,
but because I have a doctor's note
- that shows you that I am sick..." - [Christina] Yes.
[Judge Acker] "... you should not hold me liable for the balance."
Your Honor, I never saw the doctor's note.
- I mailed it. She received by mail. - [Judge Acker] Shh, shh, shh.
Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.
I know I read all the text messages.
There's a lot of energy here. There's some beautiful horses
- and then some other kinds of energy. - Uh-hmm.
[Judge Acker] You maintain you were too sick to participate
and as a consequence of being sick,
you don't think you should have to pay the balance of the entry fee.
In fact, you also have a countersuit against the plaintiff...
- [Christina] Yes. - [Judge Acker] ... because you say
that you sold her a saddle, beautiful saddle.
- She still owes you some money for it. - [Christina] Yes.
[Judge Acker] The amount of your countersuit is $293.
Ironically, yes.
[Judge Acker] So we have a lawsuit for $290.
We have a countersuit for $293.
Ms. Bennett, how long have you been putting these shows on?
We had our 30th show in December.
- [Judge Acker] Congratulations. - Thank you.
I believe we have a video of the shows that you put on.
Let's take a look at the video
and why don't you explain to us what we're seeing.
[Carole] Well, you're right.
It is like horse dancing.
And it is probably the most difficult of rider
and horse competitions.
When you go to jump, you point your horse, you hope he won't stop and he goes.
But this is like dancing, ice skating, together.
And the movement is very subtle for the rider.
And the judge will say, "You didn't hit the mark,"
or, "You cantered too soon."
- So it's almost like gymnastics? - [Carole] Exactly.
- [Judge Acker] It's like gymnastics? - Yes. And it's individual.
[Judge Acker] Let's just talk very specifically about the show
for which the defendant signed up.
- [Carole] Okay. - She enrolled her daughter.
Now, this was supposed to be on December 3rd, yes?
Yes, ma'am.
[Judge Acker] And how many riders can you accommodate in a show?
Well, everybody that signs up, it's important,
because somebody else would have wanted to sign up but they can't.
[Judge Acker] But in December, how many people did you have?
'Bout 50 or 60, so it went all day.
And so was it fully subscribed? Full show?
- Yes. - No, it was not.
- It was not. - [Judge Acker] Hang on.
Okay. You know what? This isn't church.
- We don't call out. - [Christina] Oh, sorry.
[Judge Acker] Let's put the schedule up on the monitor.
So the defendant signed up for 8:49 for cross rails,
9:10 two-foot jump.
So she had two slots for the December 3rd show?
She had two and her daughter had two.
[Judge Acker] So that's a total of four spaces?
[Carole] Yes, ma'am. And two office fees.
Why don't you explain to the court
what goes into your pre-show preparations?
So what happens initially, and I'll try to be as brief as I can,
is a month before the show is to go, we send out an email.
We have about 350 participants
and we send it out with an attachment
of a premium, okay?
And it says in the premium,
tell us your horse's name,
if you wanna come, what classes you wanna enter.
Are you an adult, amateur?
Are you an open rider, usually a trainer, or are you a junior, okay?
[Judge Acker] And her daughter Brooklyn would have been a junior?
Yes. She's under 18. Okay.
So they send it in and then they Venmo
or we've allowed them to pay at the door,
which was in this case, on good faith, or they send a check.
And then we start to tally
- how many people are coming. - Right. So you know...
[Carole] That's more important than the payment.
Okay. I got-- so let me just stop you right there.
There's been some dispute, and I saw the dispute starting to arise
over the illness, whether or not you showed her a doctor's note.
You submitted to us, I believe, a note
but it wasn't with respect to the show.
You submitted a doctor's note that indicated...
- Uh-hmm. - [Judge Acker] ... that your daughter
Brooklyn wasn't able to go to school.
She wasn't contagious, but the doctor said
- she's not entirely up to snuff. - [Christina] Yeah.
Now, is that the note to what you referred?
- Because I didn't see... - [Christina] Yes.
- ... a note to the plaintiff... - Uh-hmm.
[Judge Acker] ... about why you weren't able
to participate in this particular show.
So, unfortunately, the doctor,
that's the only note that she can write, she said.
So she put the date of the show on her doctor's note,
but she said, "I don't do personal notes or events."
She said, "This is for your school," because she was so ill,
the school would not take her back without a doctor's note.
- [Judge Acker] Did you have any... - Yeah?
- ... verification from a doctor... - [Christina] Uh-hmm.
... about your condition
and your inability to participate in the show.
Yeah. So, unfortunately, I do--
I have like a holistic doctor that I go to.
But what the issue also is that I've been a competitor my whole life.
I've been a professional horse trainer for 20 years.
My store that I have is an equestrian store. [indistinct]
[Judge Acker] Right. You sold her a saddle. We'll get to that.
She was also an employee of mine who has...
- [Judge Acker] We'll get to all that. - Okay.
But right now I wanna focus
- on the part of the case... - [Christina] Yes. Uh-hmm.
- ... in which you say you should... - Yeah.
... be legally excused from the remainder
- of the payment because you were ill. - [Christina] So I have--
I have some evidence here.
So what happens at--and I've been competing my whole life, like I said.
We actually did two shows a few months before Carole's
that were a bigger, more rated shows.
- [Judge Acker] I have from you... - [Christina] Uh-hmm.
I have evidence that you submitted.
It's evidence of the rules in another competition.
- [Christina] Okay. - And it says that refunds will be made...
- [Christina] Uh-hmm. - ... only with the veterinary
- or doctor certificate. - Number 9.
- Yeah. - It says here,
if classes are scratched through the horse show office
and prior to the start of the class, a full refund will be given.
- [Judge Acker] But--hang on, hang on. - [Christina] Okay.
[Judge Acker] Let me just cut to the chase.
Let's assume that there is another company that does similar shows and they say,
"We give you refunds," that doesn't mean she has to.
So, typically, for all shows that I've ever competed at,
if you have--you pay your office fees, if you have to scratch, a hundred percent.
- If you had-- - [Christina] And I have the check here
for exhibit 6 of the office fee that she forgot to mention I paid her.
[Judge Acker] But here, we're not concerned about office fees.
- That's the--yes. - Christina, wait.
[Judge Acker] She's suing--are you her mom?
- [Julia] Sorry. - Tell her to take a beat.
- [Julia] Christina... - Tell her to take a breath.
- Just breathe. Just--you're nervous. - Okay. I'm sorry.
- [Judge Acker] Yeah, breathe. - Just relax. It's okay.
[Judge Acker] Yeah. Exactly.
She's just trying to get some information.
Well done, Mom. Thank you.
[announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice.
The countersuit is over a $1,200 saddle.
It was your position that you only owe her $1,200 and she's like,
"No, it's $1,200 plus tax."
And then you went off on her.
You went off.
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[theme music plays]
[announcer] Horse event organizer, Carole Bennett,
is suing Christina Ciaccio
for an unpaid $290 horse competition entry fee.
Carole claims Christina canceled at the last minute,
but Christina says she was sick
and is now countersuing for a $293 balance owed on a saddle.
- What's at issue here... - [Christina] Yes.
... is whether or not you should be liable for the balance
of this show, and you say you should not because you were sick.
- No. - What I'm asking you, okay?
- Here's my query. - [Christina] Okay.
[Judge Acker] People get sick all the time.
- Uh-hmm. - Right?
So if I'm a business person and I'm selling 10 spaces...
- [Christina] Yes. - ... and then I say, "Okay,
you all have to pay me for these 10 spaces
because there are 10 people behind you who wanna be in line."
- [Christina] Uh-hmm. - And you're like, "Okay,
I'm gonna pay--ah, I don't have to pay you 'cause I got sick this morning."
That's just not fair.
I mean, just as a matter of practical common sense...
- [Christina] Uh-hmm. - ... no person who sells services
or sells spaces can operate their business
if everybody can just get out of paying because they have a doctor's note.
I never said I wouldn't pay Carole.
I didn't want to come here.
The issue here is that the-- I gave her $90 for the office fee.
I couldn't think straight. I was very, very sick.
And I said, "Here's,"--this is what I typically have done for horse shows.
We had to do it at Paso Robles Show Park.
We had to scratch the day of 'cause I don't--a green horse.
It means young.
And they let me scratch the classes
and we don't pay but we pay the office fees.
So in what she says I owe her,
she never mentioned that I gave her this money.
So this is deducted from the $290
because that's the total with the classes and the office fees.
- So the balance should be 200. - [Judge Acker] Okay.
- So let's assume that's true. - Yeah.
[Judge Acker] Let's assume there's been some mistake in accounting.
- Yes. - You are still suggesting
- that you're not liable for the... - [Christina] No.
- I never said that. - [Judge Acker] For the 200.
- No, no, no. I never said that. - [Judge Acker] No, no, no. Yes, you did.
- We're here. Listen to me. - Wait, Christina.
- Yes. - [Judge Acker] We are here
because you don't wanna pay her that other money.
No. That's not--that's not what happened.
Can I explain, please?
Carole has a vendetta against me.
- I have messages. - Okay. Stop.
- Stop with the vendettas. Stop. - I have evidence. I have evidence.
- Please, I have evidence. - [Judge Acker] Oh, my goodness.
You really should focus on the things that I'm interested in
- because I will be the one... - [Christina] I said--I was not...
... going back there with my colleagues trying to make a decision.
- [Christina] I'm sorry. - Breathe. Just relax.
[Judge Acker] I know this is really stressful for you.
Yes. I never said I wouldn't pay her. That's the whole thing.
- Ma'am. Ma'am. - Yes?
[Judge Acker] Byrd's gonna help you take a beat.
- You okay? - [Julia] Take a breath.
- Just relax. - I'm just confused.
[Judge Acker] Byrd, do some breathing exercise.
- No, no, no, no, no. It's fine. - [Julia] Christina.
- This is what I want you to do. - Yes.
- You take a breath. - [Julia] Christina, relax.
When she's talking...
- Okay. - [Judge Acker] Just relax.
... let her finish whatever she's saying.
- Okay. - Take a beat and then answer, okay?
- You're gonna get it all out. - Okay.
- Okay? - [Julia] It's only $200.
- Relax. - This is so hard.
- I never said I wouldn't pay her. - [Julia] Relax.
- Okay. No, no, no. It's all right. - [Julia] Shh.
- It's okay. - You've been--you're gonna be fine.
[Julia] It's okay.
When in doubt, take a look at me.
- I'm a--I'm a calming influence. - Okay.
- [Julia] Pull together. - Thank you.
All right.
[Judge Acker] And while you're taking a beat,
I'm gonna turn back to you, because I read all of these messages
and I think she's freaking out here 'cause you got mean.
You got really, really mean.
There was a dispute over whether or not she had to pay
for the balance of the show.
She said, "I'll pay you the office fees, but you know it's not the right thing
to make me pay for the rest of the class when I didn't show up."
I don't know that I agree with that, but you went straight from that to,
"You're a horrible business person.
How can you stay in business?"
And this dovetails to the countersuit, because the countersuit
is over a $1,200 saddle, and you let her pay over time.
And ultimately, ma'am, it was your position
that you only owe her $1,200
and she's like, "No, it's $1,200 plus tax."
And then you went off on her.
You went off.
"You're a big liar. You said nothing about tax."
And I was like, "Is she really mad about having to pay sales tax on a product?"
'Cause I thought you were really getting a little hysterical
- in some of these messages. - Okay. I worked--I've worked for her.
I've worked for Christina.
She has continually lied to me through many encounters.
She hired me and then changed my hours with no--
[Judge Acker] Oh, my God. Yeah, and I saw that.
- Okay. That's fine. - [Judge Acker] Listen.
- That's fine. - [Judge Acker] No, no, no.
I wanna point out the things
that the two of you are getting so irate about.
- [Carole] Of course. - It's silly.
- Ridiculous. - [Judge Acker] I saw the message.
- Ridiculous. - [Judge Acker] She said,
"I am a small business person.
I don't need you today." And you said, "What?
It's Wednesday. You promised me Wednesday.
This is horrible." Like you freaked out.
All she did was say I don't need you on Wednesday.
So you think you shouldn't have to pay sales tax
- and you think that... - But that's...
[Judge Acker] ... you know, your doctor's note
because you don't feel good means that you can leave people hanging.
Your Honor, I wanted to support her.
I was helping talk about her
and how great her store was all over town, okay?
I was happy to be working for her,
and I went in and I got a saddle.
- I said, "How much is it?" - [Judge Acker] And she said $1,200.
[Carole] She said, "We have--we have a big sale on.
It's 1,200 out the door."
- That's what she said. - [Judge Acker] And you know what?
As a grown woman with some common sense,
you should know that in the state of California,
you pay sales tax on products.
- It's not rocket science. - [Carole] Fine.
Judge DiMango.
I get your point that she didn't say plus tax,
but I have been a million places and I say how much is that and they say, "$25."
And I get there and I say, "Here's 25," and they go, "No, it's 28.75."
I go, "Why?" They go, "Plus tax."
Now, I don't argue with them.
I never found out what the tax was.
When I brought her the last payment,
I said, "Are we done?
Do I owe you anything more?"
And she said no.
I never knew I owed you more money.
How much did you think you had to pay for the saddle?
I paid 1,200, what she told me.
[Judge DiMango] Is that what you knew you had to pay?
- Is that what you knew you had to pay? - [Carole] Yes, ma'am.
So then why in your papers did you say, "I gave you $1,100, we're done."?
Because I owed her another hundred and I did...
'Cause you thought-- well, you didn't admit to that.
You argued with her about that.
You said, "I only owe you 1,100." And she said no.
And then you said, "Oh, okay, I'll give you the other hundred."
I just didn't know if it was 1,100 or 1,200.
- It was a hundred dollars. - [Judge DiMango] You both don't know
what you don't wanna know.
- That's what it seems to me. - [Carole] That's really not fair.
You both don't know what you don't wanna know.
That's not fair.
Why do you say that she owes you $293?
[Christina] So we have an accounting firm.
They went through all the payments that she's made
and they searched all of her checks
and all--everything that was cashed.
So we show that we're just missing the tax
and then her last $200 payment we're missing.
And I don't know if it...
[Judge DiMango] But wait. She gave you $1,100.
You even said that.
You said in your text messages, $1,100.
She said, "Okay, I'll give you the other hundred."
Did you ever give her that other hundred?
- [Carole] Yes, ma'am. - [Judge DiMango] Okay.
So you have $1,200, which I think is reflected...
- Uh-hmm. - [Judge DiMango] ... in the papers.
Why does she not only owe you $93?
- 'Cause the truth... - Yeah.
... really is, and I'm not saying I would go this way,
if you only had to pay
- the office fees... - Uh-hmm.
[Judge DiMango] ... that would be 90 and if you only have the tax,
that would be 93.
- That would be a wash. - [Christina] Right. Yeah.
If you had to pay all of the fees,
- that would be 290. - [Christina] Uh-hmm.
[Judge DiMango] And if you have to pay the saddle, it'll be 293.
That would be a wash. Where it's not a wash
is if I find one of you owes the other one more.
[announcer] Coming up on Tribunal Justice.
This isn't a case about a $93 tax
and it's not a case about a $290 entrance fee.
It's about respect.
Is that right?
- Yes. - Yes.
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[theme music plays]
[announcer] Horse event organizer Carole Bennett is suing Christina Ciaccio
for an unpaid entry fee
after Christina canceled at the last minute.
But Christina claimed she was too sick to ride
and is countersuing for a balance owed on a saddle
Carole bought from Christina's store.
[Judge DiMango] You had a contract.
This is what I have here. Rules and regulations.
- Okay. - You have this.
And in it it says that all the entries have to be postmarked
- no later than 10 days before the show. - Uh-hmm.
- [Judge DiMango] You know that, right? - Right.
[Judge DiMango] That's why you got in there right away.
- Uh-hmm. - [Judge DiMango] Second thing
it says is that all the correct fees
must accompany that, because they take on riders
on a first-come-first-serve basis.
We all agree so far?
- Right. - [Judge DiMango] Ladies? Yes.
The reason why she let you schedule without payment in full
is because she has a history with you.
- Yes? - Yes, ma'am.
- [Judge DiMango] Yes? - [Christina] Uh-hmm.
[Judge DiMango] So she gave you till the last minute.
Interestingly, all this other little battling stuff
that we see in this courtroom and that was just brought up
has a lot to do with the history that you both have with one another.
- Uh-hmm. - You worked for her for a while, right?
[Carole] Yes, ma'am.
And you were upset that she said to you on occasion,
"You can't work Wednesday 'cause Wednesday I got--"
And you were like, "Wait a minute.
I thought you guaranteed me every Wednesday."
Am I right about that?
Judge, I live 40 minutes away, and she promised me those days.
Okay. So she made a promise to you
that you were going to work a particular day of the week,
Wednesday, because the woman who you replaced worked on Wednesday.
Yes, ma'am.
And then on Wednesday, you go. She goes, "I don't really need you."
And you said to her, "You know, I drove 40 minutes to get here
and I needed the income
and I really thought we were gonna stick with it."
And I'm gonna tell you, when I read it, I said, "It almost looks to me
like you canceled the night before the show to get back at her."
- No. - And I'm--I know you're gonna say no.
I said what it looks like to me,
because you were sick just a day before, right?
No. It just got worse, unfortunately.
[Judge DiMango] You were sick the day before that too, right?
Yeah.
[Judge DiMango] And your daughter was sick the day before that.
- Yeah. - In fact, the doctor's note,
- which says nothing really other than... - [Christina] Yeah.
... can you please write me a note, doctor, and the doctor writing down things
that he didn't feel would be a commitment for him...
- Uh-hmm. - ... says,
"Patient had a doctor's appointment today, May 23rd.
She is under evaluation
for some chronic symptoms.
She is not contagious."
- So she could go to school. - [Christina] Uh-hmm.
"But she may not be able to participate completely."
Makes sense. "Until we figure out what is causing her symptoms."
Now, I don't know what her symptoms are
because this note doesn't tell us what they are.
- Uh-hmm. - [Judge DiMango] We just know
she's not contagious and that she visited him.
So she was capable of riding
on the back of a horse in my view on 12/03.
She was out, unfortunately. We had the respiratory and...
I get that she was sick but I don't--
- to be honest with you. - She was out, yeah.
I think you're exaggerating, 'cause I could see you in here.
You just wanna make a point.
- And I think... - No.
... you're willing to go off on a tangent on it.
You have no note
because you said you were so bad off, you were close to pneumonia.
What doctor told you you were gonna get pneumonia
and didn't give you a note, didn't give you a chest X-ray,
and didn't give you an antibiotic?
- What doctor? - [Carole] Good point.
- [Judge DiMango] None. None. - I didn't wanna go to urgent care.
- I just... - [Judge DiMango] Excuse me?
I--I'm not insured in a health insurance
and I didn't have the money to go to urgent care and so I stayed home.
And I had to take care of my kids and, unfortunately...
Who told you you had pneumonia?
I couldn't--my lungs--
I had a hard time breathing and there was...
- So no one--so no doctor told you? - No doctor told me that, no.
[Judge DiMango] Okay. Judge Levy.
- [exhales] - [laughter]
[Judge Acker] Oxygen mask.
This isn't a case about a $93 tax
and it's not a case about a nonrefundable $290 entrance fee.
It's about respect.
Is that right?
- Yes. - Yes. I put on these shows
because we wanna help the community.
They are schooling shows.
Everything comes out of my husband and my pocket.
And we do it because we love the community.
- If a horse is sick... - [Judge Levy] I get it.
... that's a different story than a person.
I get it. Do you understand that?
Your Honor, I never said I wasn't gonna pay her.
I was trying to understand because we did shows, like I said,
and we always-- we can scratch the classes before. But...
No, no. When you say that you wanted to understand...
[Christina] Yes.
- ... you're a smart lady. - [Christina] Yes.
[Judge Levy] You understand what she was telling you
that the reason we have a non-refund policy
is because if people cancel at the last minute,
there's a snowball effect and it affects the bottom line.
And it goes back to May 31st.
Again, this whole issue with the non-refund policy was December,
but it was in May, according to the text messages,
that involved your mom.
Mom, why don't you step up?
[exhales]
There comes a time in May
that you put your house and the ranch on the market.
You're selling it. You're looking to sell your house, right?
Exactly.
- And she was gonna send her, um... - [Judge Levy] Right.
[Carole] ... her contractor out to look at it.
[Judge Levy] First of all, you are hoping that her mom
was going to either purchase it or be involved in it
and that it was going to be a sale
and you'd have money for yourself and your family, right?
- Yes, sir. - And you told the defendant on May 31st
that your mom was coming out tomorrow at 10:00.
That is your mom who's coming out tomorrow at 10:00.
You said, "Long shot but who knows."
- Right? - Yes, sir.
Now, on the next day, when you were supposed to be there
with your contractor, you didn't show up, right?
My contractor didn't show up. He couldn't--
- [Judge Levy] You didn't show up. - She--no.
She knew I was out of town.
I was leaving for San Francisco that day.
- So your contractor... - [Julia] He was supposed to...
- ... who was acting on your behalf... - [Julia] Yes.
- ... was supposed to show up. - And he called her.
[Judge Levy] Right? And he doesn't show up?
- Correct. - [Judge Levy] And then you, Ms. Bennett,
you contact Ms. Salisbury
and you were upset that you got stood up, that no one showed, right?
- Probably. - [Judge Levy] Probably?
- That's what happened. She was pissed. - She was calling me.
[Judge Levy] She was so furious that according to you, Ms. Salisbury,
that neither you nor your contractor showed,
defendant's mother, that's you, tried to reschedule
and had to "endure"-- this is what you wrote in your statement.
[Julia] Right. I did.
[Judge Levy] Endure the most abusive
- and threatening text message tirade... - Uh-hmm.
[Judge Levy] ... at the hands of the plaintiff.
- Uh-hmm. - [Judge Levy] "So abusive,
I was frightened and visibly shaking."
- That's what you wrote. - Yes, I did.
And you of course told your daughter about that.
Yes. I called her because I was like, "She won't..."
[Judge Levy] You told your daughter about that.
Yes. I was frightened.
And then we have June 1st, the very next day.
You, ma'am, are scheduled to work at the defendant's retail shop, right?
Yes, sir.
[Judge Levy] And she, the defendant, tells you, "I'm good to work tomorrow.
You don't need to come in."
So now she's telling you at the last minute,
we got a schedule, you got a schedule.
We know that you travel 40 minutes to get to work,
that you count on that money for your family.
We don't need you.
And you said, "That really doesn't work for me.
I planned my day around working."
And she says, "I'm sorry."
You said, "Please explain."
And she says, "I don't need you tomorrow.
Sorry for your inconvenience."
A day after your conversation with her mom
when you got blown off by her mom and a contractor
to come take a look at your house.
Remember all that?
- You remember all that? - Yes, sir.
You didn't tell her that you spoke to your mom
and you know what happened the day before in any of those texts, but you knew that.
Yes.
[Judge Levy] And that was a contributing cause
to you telling her, "Don't bother showing up at work."
- Yes or no? - Yes, sir.
[Judge Levy] And then on June 6th, goes on to how much you need the money
and you did not appreciate that.
That's what you sent to her, right?
- [Carole] Yes, sir. - What did you mean by that,
that you don't appreciate that?
I just didn't think it was respectful 'cause we had a different agreement
and she changed it at the 11th and a half hour.
She didn't even call me to tell me not to come in.
It was when I came in.
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I never committed to the horse show, Your Honor.
There's a history with her. Is that right?
They don't get along.
I've already had my run-ins with her.
That's for sure.
We're fine. We don't need this aggravation.
I offered to pay for the horse show.
I told her. She blew up, okay?
I feel like you all just need to like get on a horse,
relax, ride off into the sunset,
and then just let it all like wash off.
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