1 00:00:01,744 --> 00:00:03,919 (ominous music) 2 00:00:05,247 --> 00:00:06,821 (phone beeping) 3 00:00:06,841 --> 00:00:09,991 - [plumber] it looks like flesh type of stuff, meat, 4 00:00:10,011 --> 00:00:12,494 And we don't know what it is. 5 00:00:12,513 --> 00:00:14,238 - [narrator] a gruesome discovery- 6 00:00:14,256 --> 00:00:16,331 - My goddaughter died in there. 7 00:00:16,425 --> 00:00:17,908 She was chopped up. 8 00:00:18,001 --> 00:00:21,002 She was filleted like a fish. 9 00:00:22,356 --> 00:00:24,839 - [narrator] a development that changes the investigation. 10 00:00:24,933 --> 00:00:27,601 - Police today confirming that they have found the dna 11 00:00:27,753 --> 00:00:29,844 Belonging to a second young woman 12 00:00:29,864 --> 00:00:32,105 Who went missing nearly a decade ago. 13 00:00:32,258 --> 00:00:33,699 - To a logical person, it doesn't make sense 14 00:00:33,850 --> 00:00:35,259 You'd keep all that evidence around. 15 00:00:35,277 --> 00:00:36,869 - [narrator] a high-stakes interview. 16 00:00:40,766 --> 00:00:43,024 - [narrator] investigators searching for answers 17 00:00:43,118 --> 00:00:44,501 In the interrogation room. 18 00:00:50,867 --> 00:00:55,512 (brooding music) (clock ticking) 19 00:00:59,226 --> 00:01:01,643 (uneasy music) 20 00:01:20,063 --> 00:01:21,396 - [darren] she was described as having 21 00:01:21,415 --> 00:01:23,665 Some sort of a mental episode. 22 00:01:25,419 --> 00:01:27,902 The mother made a decision to take her up to the hospital 23 00:01:27,996 --> 00:01:29,421 To have her checked. 24 00:01:33,502 --> 00:01:35,761 The mother and daughter that brought her there left, 25 00:01:37,323 --> 00:01:39,014 Leaving rori in the care of the hospital. 26 00:01:41,176 --> 00:01:43,435 (ominous music) 27 00:01:44,830 --> 00:01:47,347 For whatever reason, she ended up leaving 28 00:01:47,499 --> 00:01:50,350 Before she was actually seen by a physician, 29 00:01:50,502 --> 00:01:52,945 And we see her exiting the hospital on her own. 30 00:01:54,506 --> 00:01:56,865 That was the last known sighting we had of her. 31 00:02:05,701 --> 00:02:08,443 (date clicking) 32 00:02:08,537 --> 00:02:11,279 - I went over to her apartment. 33 00:02:11,298 --> 00:02:13,132 Nothing had changed; she hadn't been there. 34 00:02:13,283 --> 00:02:15,375 Nobody had heard from her. 35 00:02:15,469 --> 00:02:20,222 I realized, "something's wrong, terribly, terribly wrong," 36 00:02:21,700 --> 00:02:24,718 And I just, I had a really bad feeling. 37 00:02:24,812 --> 00:02:27,271 (uneasy music) 38 00:02:30,058 --> 00:02:32,317 I went into panic mode. 39 00:02:32,544 --> 00:02:36,396 I made thousands of missing persons posters. 40 00:02:36,490 --> 00:02:39,324 There wasn't a place that you could go downtown oshawa 41 00:02:39,551 --> 00:02:41,902 That you didn't see my goddaughter's face. 42 00:02:42,054 --> 00:02:45,497 I made sure that every post had her picture. 43 00:02:46,834 --> 00:02:50,060 Out 'til 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning talking to people. 44 00:02:50,153 --> 00:02:52,171 You don't think about that environment, 45 00:02:52,398 --> 00:02:54,298 You just think about finding your little girl. 46 00:02:56,235 --> 00:02:58,468 - They had a massive search going on for rori. 47 00:03:00,406 --> 00:03:02,997 Family members and friends had created a website 48 00:03:03,091 --> 00:03:05,258 For people to go to. 49 00:03:05,352 --> 00:03:07,001 There was all kinds of people going on the website, 50 00:03:07,095 --> 00:03:08,854 Offering opinions and thoughts. 51 00:03:12,860 --> 00:03:16,920 Rori was an 18-year-old, somewhat troubled, young female 52 00:03:16,939 --> 00:03:18,680 Living in oshawa. 53 00:03:18,699 --> 00:03:21,825 Rori had told family members that she was pregnant. 54 00:03:23,037 --> 00:03:24,945 - I love rori. 55 00:03:25,097 --> 00:03:28,707 She's the type of girl that found the good in everybody. 56 00:03:29,785 --> 00:03:31,025 She was very inquisitive. 57 00:03:31,119 --> 00:03:33,194 She was the kid of all knowing. 58 00:03:33,214 --> 00:03:36,197 She was very active, she was in sports all the time. 59 00:03:36,217 --> 00:03:40,535 And she had her own little way about her, 60 00:03:40,554 --> 00:03:41,887 So beautiful. 61 00:03:44,892 --> 00:03:47,392 (waves lapping) 62 00:03:48,971 --> 00:03:50,954 - On the 11th of September, 2017, 63 00:03:51,047 --> 00:03:53,047 We received a call from some fishermen 64 00:03:53,141 --> 00:03:54,716 That were down on the pier. 65 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:58,295 (brooding music) 66 00:03:58,388 --> 00:04:00,239 - They saw something in the water 67 00:04:00,466 --> 00:04:02,890 And they thought at first it was a turkey carcass 68 00:04:02,910 --> 00:04:05,410 And they began to cast their spoons. 69 00:04:06,896 --> 00:04:10,474 But once it landed on the cement pier, 70 00:04:10,492 --> 00:04:15,236 It became pretty apparent that it was the torso of a female. 71 00:04:15,256 --> 00:04:19,091 (brooding music) 72 00:04:19,242 --> 00:04:23,653 - I arrived there maybe just after 9:00. 73 00:04:23,672 --> 00:04:26,556 It's not what I expected to see, as far as a dismemberment. 74 00:04:28,510 --> 00:04:30,435 It was clearly not an accident. 75 00:04:30,587 --> 00:04:32,012 The thoughts going through my head was, 76 00:04:32,106 --> 00:04:35,590 Are we looking at somebody with a medical background, 77 00:04:35,609 --> 00:04:37,901 Possibly a hunter, an avid hunter, 78 00:04:39,338 --> 00:04:41,613 A butcher, somebody good with knives? 79 00:04:44,618 --> 00:04:47,077 (uneasy music) 80 00:04:54,536 --> 00:04:56,611 The community were coming up with a lotta their own theories 81 00:04:56,705 --> 00:04:58,038 And their own speculation 82 00:04:58,132 --> 00:05:00,215 And their own conclusion as to what happened. 83 00:05:01,618 --> 00:05:03,635 - Little town, things like this don't happen, 84 00:05:03,862 --> 00:05:08,048 And you now have to put it together for yourself. 85 00:05:08,142 --> 00:05:10,392 You have a torso and your goddaughter's gone. 86 00:05:12,037 --> 00:05:15,372 - There was no identifying marks on the torso 87 00:05:15,465 --> 00:05:18,224 Such as tattoos or scars from surgery, 88 00:05:18,377 --> 00:05:21,320 So we were dependent on dna. 89 00:05:21,547 --> 00:05:24,714 - I submitted some clothing and such. 90 00:05:24,733 --> 00:05:27,050 They got in touch with rori's biological father 91 00:05:27,069 --> 00:05:28,810 And he submitted his dna. 92 00:05:28,829 --> 00:05:30,812 It felt like this forever thing. 93 00:05:30,831 --> 00:05:34,333 (brooding music) 94 00:05:34,484 --> 00:05:35,725 - Tonight, a tragic turn in the search 95 00:05:35,819 --> 00:05:37,561 For a missing teen in oshawa. 96 00:05:37,579 --> 00:05:39,896 Durham police have identified a torso 97 00:05:39,989 --> 00:05:41,989 Found on the lakefront in September 98 00:05:42,009 --> 00:05:44,468 As that of 18-year-old rori hache. 99 00:05:47,072 --> 00:05:49,848 - You don't know how your sweet goddaughter 100 00:05:50,075 --> 00:05:54,603 Ended up dismembered and the rest of her is missing 101 00:05:56,005 --> 00:05:58,190 And thrown in a lake like she's a piece of garbage 102 00:05:59,585 --> 00:06:00,692 In our little town. 103 00:06:03,364 --> 00:06:07,699 - The fact she was 18 years old, a beautiful young female, 104 00:06:07,851 --> 00:06:11,328 And the horrific crime that had happened to her, 105 00:06:12,706 --> 00:06:14,522 There was pressure from the people in oshawa. 106 00:06:14,616 --> 00:06:16,266 They wanted answers. 107 00:06:16,284 --> 00:06:17,617 (water trickling) 108 00:06:17,769 --> 00:06:21,546 - The worst part is that they're still out there. 109 00:06:21,698 --> 00:06:23,289 They're out there. 110 00:06:23,442 --> 00:06:26,701 Whoever did this is not caught, we don't know who they are. 111 00:06:26,795 --> 00:06:28,461 (pensive music) 112 00:06:28,555 --> 00:06:30,447 - Really, at that point, everybody was a suspect 113 00:06:30,465 --> 00:06:31,556 Until we eliminated them. 114 00:06:33,209 --> 00:06:36,210 It was a case of delving into rori's background, 115 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:39,472 Who she was with, where was she, 116 00:06:39,625 --> 00:06:41,566 And why would somebody wanna do this to her. 117 00:06:43,904 --> 00:06:45,695 We had no suspects in September, 118 00:06:47,557 --> 00:06:49,658 No suspects October, November. 119 00:06:51,470 --> 00:06:53,703 We exhausted pretty much every avenue we could 120 00:06:55,641 --> 00:06:59,325 Up until the break we got at the end of December. 121 00:06:59,420 --> 00:07:02,170 (dramatic music) 122 00:07:04,332 --> 00:07:05,090 (phone beeping) 123 00:07:25,353 --> 00:07:27,863 (ominous music) 124 00:07:37,182 --> 00:07:40,350 - The issue started several days before. 125 00:07:40,443 --> 00:07:41,918 He didn't want any plumbers called. 126 00:07:43,947 --> 00:07:45,947 He tried snaking the drain himself. 127 00:07:45,966 --> 00:07:48,800 He was taking efforts to fix it. 128 00:07:50,453 --> 00:07:54,714 By the 29th, it was getting so bad, the smell, 129 00:07:54,866 --> 00:07:59,144 The pipes were backing up into people's bathtubs. 130 00:08:00,647 --> 00:08:02,147 People upstairs just took it upon themself 131 00:08:02,298 --> 00:08:03,315 To call a plumber. 132 00:08:06,061 --> 00:08:09,546 The officers on the scene decided to knock on the door 133 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:11,156 Of adam strong's basement apartment. 134 00:08:12,976 --> 00:08:15,494 They recall him putting his head down 135 00:08:17,164 --> 00:08:20,147 And making a comment almost instantaneously that, 136 00:08:20,167 --> 00:08:21,416 "the jig's up. 137 00:08:22,503 --> 00:08:23,651 It's a body." 138 00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:26,004 (tense music) 139 00:08:37,166 --> 00:08:39,184 He commented to the arresting officer, 140 00:08:40,929 --> 00:08:43,671 "if you want the rest of her, she's in my freezer 141 00:08:43,765 --> 00:08:45,148 And she's pretty defleshed." 142 00:08:46,935 --> 00:08:49,861 And there in fact was somebody in the freezer, as adam said. 143 00:08:55,944 --> 00:08:57,443 - Good evening. 144 00:08:57,538 --> 00:09:00,113 It has been a double dose of tragedy for an oshawa family. 145 00:09:00,265 --> 00:09:01,689 Police once again confirming 146 00:09:01,783 --> 00:09:05,460 That they have found the remains of 18-year-old rori hache. 147 00:09:08,382 --> 00:09:12,108 - Rori had a distinct tattoo. 148 00:09:12,127 --> 00:09:15,178 She had the word "alive" tattooed on her neck. 149 00:09:17,616 --> 00:09:19,683 And when they looked through the freezer, 150 00:09:21,136 --> 00:09:22,894 They found a human head 151 00:09:24,790 --> 00:09:29,642 And there was a tattoo clearly displayed. 152 00:09:29,795 --> 00:09:32,070 I knew right then, yeah, it's rori. 153 00:09:34,057 --> 00:09:35,890 - You can't even think that rori 154 00:09:35,909 --> 00:09:37,742 Would find herself in a position 155 00:09:39,304 --> 00:09:41,137 That her demise was met this way. 156 00:09:41,230 --> 00:09:46,400 You can't even correlate those two things. 157 00:09:46,494 --> 00:09:48,328 You can't reconcile them. 158 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,663 And the worst is yet to come. (whimpers) 159 00:09:50,757 --> 00:09:52,315 - [reporter] police say they don't have enough 160 00:09:52,408 --> 00:09:54,217 To charge adam strong with murder. 161 00:09:55,578 --> 00:09:57,078 - We need the evidence to lay the charge 162 00:09:57,097 --> 00:09:58,988 And this will take time. 163 00:09:59,007 --> 00:10:01,558 (siren wailing) 164 00:10:03,495 --> 00:10:06,563 We didn't know at that point what the cause of death was. 165 00:10:07,941 --> 00:10:09,941 To lay that charge, you need the grounds. 166 00:10:10,168 --> 00:10:13,111 A decision was made to continue our investigation 167 00:10:13,338 --> 00:10:14,779 To see where it took us down the road. 168 00:10:17,008 --> 00:10:18,783 We had no idea what adam was gonna tell us. 169 00:10:19,936 --> 00:10:22,028 Have a seat right here, adam. 170 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:24,623 (clock ticking) 171 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:38,452 - The team itself didn't have the opportunity 172 00:10:38,546 --> 00:10:39,804 To plan and prepare. 173 00:10:39,956 --> 00:10:41,931 They had no idea what they were getting into. 174 00:11:09,744 --> 00:11:11,836 (ominous music) 175 00:11:13,899 --> 00:11:15,990 - My goddaughter died in there. 176 00:11:16,084 --> 00:11:17,175 She was chopped up. 177 00:11:18,661 --> 00:11:21,513 She was filleted like a fish. 178 00:11:23,258 --> 00:11:28,186 And she was disbursed in the most horrendous way. 179 00:11:28,337 --> 00:11:31,172 - [reporter] the 18-year-old was last seen alive in August. 180 00:11:31,266 --> 00:11:34,842 Her torso was found in the oshawa harbour a month later. 181 00:11:34,861 --> 00:11:38,438 Then, the grisly discovery of more of hache's remains 182 00:11:38,532 --> 00:11:41,682 In the basement apartment of this house on mcmillan drive. 183 00:11:41,702 --> 00:11:44,327 (intense music) 184 00:11:56,365 --> 00:11:57,941 - In canada, you don't have the right 185 00:11:57,959 --> 00:11:59,959 To have your attorney or lawyer present with you 186 00:12:00,053 --> 00:12:01,202 During the interview. 187 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:02,612 You do have the right to a phone call 188 00:12:02,630 --> 00:12:04,038 To talk to them for advice. 189 00:12:04,132 --> 00:12:05,631 But once that interview starts, 190 00:12:05,784 --> 00:12:07,208 It's just you and the interviewer 191 00:12:07,227 --> 00:12:10,119 And you have to navigate that yourself as a suspect. 192 00:12:10,213 --> 00:12:12,213 You can choose not to answer questions, 193 00:12:12,232 --> 00:12:14,123 But you can't choose to stop the interview 194 00:12:14,217 --> 00:12:15,400 When you exercise that right. 195 00:12:15,627 --> 00:12:17,477 So, the police essentially have the right 196 00:12:17,571 --> 00:12:20,387 To continue to ask you questions, within reason, 197 00:12:20,407 --> 00:12:22,315 Even if you choose not to answer them. 198 00:12:22,409 --> 00:12:25,076 (brooding music) 199 00:12:35,088 --> 00:12:37,088 (clock ticking) 200 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,381 (clock ticking) 201 00:13:28,533 --> 00:13:31,701 - When we walked in the room, I thought he would be nervous, 202 00:13:31,719 --> 00:13:33,369 Being placed under arrest 203 00:13:33,388 --> 00:13:37,540 With the body parts of a young female in your freezer. 204 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:42,153 But he was a calm as a cucumber, which I didn't expect. 205 00:14:15,171 --> 00:14:16,855 When he started feeling the pressure, 206 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:21,526 He would do certain things to relieve the pressure. 207 00:14:22,921 --> 00:14:24,529 He'd change the subject quickly. 208 00:14:44,959 --> 00:14:47,051 - He'll talk about any subject under the sun 209 00:14:48,555 --> 00:14:50,630 Except for the reason why he's sitting across from us. 210 00:14:50,782 --> 00:14:52,557 That's just the way adam's wired. 211 00:14:54,227 --> 00:14:56,394 (clock ticking) 212 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:08,406 - Thank you. 213 00:15:50,675 --> 00:15:53,952 Was pretty confident we had the evidence for the indignity. 214 00:15:54,103 --> 00:15:57,121 However, our goal was to find out what happened to rori, 215 00:15:57,273 --> 00:15:58,456 What caused her death. 216 00:16:00,201 --> 00:16:03,944 It was strongly believed that adam either was involved 217 00:16:03,964 --> 00:16:06,631 Or caused it or knew what happened to her. 218 00:16:08,876 --> 00:16:11,877 He clearly wanted to engage in conversation, 219 00:16:12,030 --> 00:16:14,472 Just not about the reason why he was there. 220 00:16:31,566 --> 00:16:34,884 - The reason we're showing these photographs, 221 00:16:34,902 --> 00:16:37,144 We're pulling on his decency as a human being. 222 00:16:37,163 --> 00:16:38,955 It had little effect on him at all. 223 00:16:40,391 --> 00:16:42,241 If you're sitting across from somebody 224 00:16:42,335 --> 00:16:45,819 Who has no empathy whatsoever or no conscience, 225 00:16:45,839 --> 00:16:48,080 It creates an uphill battle for us. 226 00:16:48,233 --> 00:16:50,082 You can't play on those emotions 227 00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:52,510 That you normally could with a decent human being. 228 00:17:17,704 --> 00:17:19,428 - I didn't know what to make of adam. 229 00:17:19,447 --> 00:17:21,539 I knew very little of him. 230 00:17:21,766 --> 00:17:26,026 I didn't know if this was his normal way of acting. 231 00:17:26,046 --> 00:17:29,789 If I had known then what I know now about adam strong, 232 00:17:29,941 --> 00:17:32,216 It was clearly a game for him. 233 00:17:39,726 --> 00:17:41,893 (brooding music) 234 00:17:58,986 --> 00:18:01,579 (pensive music) 235 00:18:21,768 --> 00:18:24,327 - You're trying to build that relationship with him. 236 00:18:24,420 --> 00:18:26,104 I'm treating you with respect. 237 00:18:26,331 --> 00:18:28,589 I'm making sure your needs are met. 238 00:18:28,683 --> 00:18:31,667 There's a social interaction that's been put in place now 239 00:18:31,686 --> 00:18:33,903 Where it's just two people, I've got you a meal. 240 00:18:54,134 --> 00:18:56,634 (pensive music) 241 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:22,218 - After three hours of doing it, 242 00:19:22,236 --> 00:19:24,887 It was clear we weren't gonna get anywhere. 243 00:19:24,906 --> 00:19:26,330 (burping) 244 00:19:27,392 --> 00:19:28,833 - We were just going in circles. 245 00:19:39,662 --> 00:19:41,161 - Let's just shut it down now. 246 00:19:41,255 --> 00:19:42,996 We could have sat there for another three or six hours, 247 00:19:43,090 --> 00:19:44,849 I don't think we were gonna get any different results. 248 00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:52,023 (intense music) 249 00:19:57,104 --> 00:19:58,587 - Really, all I got from that interview 250 00:19:58,606 --> 00:20:01,924 Was a sense of who adam was 251 00:20:01,943 --> 00:20:03,592 To help us going further down the road 252 00:20:03,611 --> 00:20:04,660 With the investigation. 253 00:20:10,952 --> 00:20:14,286 - The hache case is still very much an active investigation. 254 00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:17,273 Police say they're going to dig up strong's yard. 255 00:20:17,366 --> 00:20:19,775 They've also seized his boat. 256 00:20:19,794 --> 00:20:21,794 They're asking anyone with information about him 257 00:20:21,888 --> 00:20:25,539 Or his boating trips on lake ontario to come forward. 258 00:20:25,558 --> 00:20:28,226 (brooding music) 259 00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:36,216 - Adam strong was not on the police radar. 260 00:20:36,236 --> 00:20:38,644 He hadn't worked in several years. 261 00:20:38,738 --> 00:20:41,864 He would bounce around from job to job to job. 262 00:20:43,301 --> 00:20:45,818 And from speaking with his close friends, 263 00:20:45,970 --> 00:20:47,578 The men had a different perspective of adam 264 00:20:47,730 --> 00:20:48,746 Than the women did. 265 00:20:50,808 --> 00:20:56,254 The girls painted a picture of adam, very sadistic sexually, 266 00:20:57,757 --> 00:21:01,317 Was into bondage, violent sexual behavior, 267 00:21:01,335 --> 00:21:03,427 Very dominating type person. 268 00:21:05,265 --> 00:21:07,765 You talk to the male side of things from his friends 269 00:21:09,327 --> 00:21:10,751 And the majority of them would describe him 270 00:21:10,770 --> 00:21:12,011 As the kind of guy 271 00:21:12,105 --> 00:21:14,346 That would give you the shirt off his back, 272 00:21:14,499 --> 00:21:16,332 Would give you his last dollar, 273 00:21:16,350 --> 00:21:19,735 Would let you stay at his place if you had nowhere to live. 274 00:21:21,355 --> 00:21:22,855 - [reporter] police describing the crime scene 275 00:21:23,007 --> 00:21:25,783 At this home on mcmillan drive as extensive, 276 00:21:26,010 --> 00:21:28,786 So much so they've applied for a 30-day extension 277 00:21:28,937 --> 00:21:30,246 On the original warrant. 278 00:21:31,624 --> 00:21:33,440 - It was the worst apartment I've ever been in 279 00:21:33,459 --> 00:21:37,461 For clutter and dirt and mess. 280 00:21:39,632 --> 00:21:40,464 You could barely move 281 00:21:42,026 --> 00:21:45,027 Because of a few little walkways in there. 282 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:46,879 - [paul] there was a number of sex toys 283 00:21:47,031 --> 00:21:50,141 Located in the apartment, restraining devices, 284 00:21:50,292 --> 00:21:52,459 Handcuffs and whatnot. 285 00:21:52,478 --> 00:21:54,979 (tense music) 286 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,393 - There was a bent hammer we had located rori's dna on. 287 00:22:01,546 --> 00:22:03,154 Rori's running shoes were located 288 00:22:03,305 --> 00:22:04,989 In a bag in the apartment. 289 00:22:06,326 --> 00:22:09,401 There was blood spatter located on the wall 290 00:22:09,495 --> 00:22:13,572 And bottom baseboards leading into adam's bedroom. 291 00:22:13,666 --> 00:22:16,334 (brooding music) 292 00:22:21,582 --> 00:22:25,234 That knife's only designed for one use and one use only. 293 00:22:25,252 --> 00:22:28,087 It's a knife used by hunters 294 00:22:28,239 --> 00:22:29,680 For cutting and skinning animals. 295 00:22:31,742 --> 00:22:33,017 To a logical person, it doesn't make sense 296 00:22:33,168 --> 00:22:35,353 You'd keep all that evidence around, 297 00:22:35,580 --> 00:22:37,188 But seemed to be the way adam thought. 298 00:22:38,524 --> 00:22:40,858 The dna that was located on that knife, 299 00:22:42,603 --> 00:22:47,031 It wasn't through blood, it was tissue-like material. 300 00:22:48,684 --> 00:22:52,428 We sent that knife off for analysis. 301 00:22:52,521 --> 00:22:53,946 We received the results back, 302 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:59,785 That knife contained the dna of a second female. 303 00:22:59,879 --> 00:23:02,380 (sullen music) 304 00:23:07,887 --> 00:23:09,628 - Disturbing developments in the murder investigation 305 00:23:09,722 --> 00:23:12,114 Of rori hache, whose partial remains were found 306 00:23:12,133 --> 00:23:15,375 Inside this central oshawa home late last year. 307 00:23:15,395 --> 00:23:18,062 Police today confirming that they have found the dna 308 00:23:18,213 --> 00:23:20,231 Belonging to a second young woman 309 00:23:20,458 --> 00:23:23,292 Who went missing nearly a decade ago. 310 00:23:23,310 --> 00:23:27,554 - The other remaining missing female at the time 311 00:23:27,573 --> 00:23:29,648 Was identified as kandis fitzpatrick 312 00:23:29,742 --> 00:23:31,075 From the oshawa area. 313 00:23:32,486 --> 00:23:35,821 - The second victim was a 19-year-old female 314 00:23:35,973 --> 00:23:38,490 Who went missing in 2008. 315 00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:44,422 And very much like rori, she was out of the house on her own. 316 00:23:45,666 --> 00:23:47,666 Both victims were in their late teens 317 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,578 And both victims were more of a petite build, 318 00:23:51,597 --> 00:23:53,431 Longer brown hair. 319 00:23:54,825 --> 00:23:56,225 - Almost a spitting image of each other. 320 00:23:57,995 --> 00:23:59,770 She went missing 10 years prior 321 00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:04,942 And adam went undetected for 10 years. 322 00:24:05,093 --> 00:24:07,778 It makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up. 323 00:24:07,930 --> 00:24:09,004 - [reporter] strong is now charged 324 00:24:09,097 --> 00:24:11,264 With first-degree murder in hache's death, 325 00:24:11,358 --> 00:24:15,527 As well as the death of 18-year-old kandis fitzpatrick. 326 00:24:15,621 --> 00:24:18,247 (brooding music) 327 00:24:37,643 --> 00:24:38,809 - The dropping, 328 00:24:39,036 --> 00:24:41,720 And then the newer charges was, I think, 329 00:24:41,872 --> 00:24:44,556 A calculated risk on their part 330 00:24:44,709 --> 00:24:48,635 Because the indignity to a body was essentially a slam dunk. 331 00:24:48,654 --> 00:24:51,547 There's no evidence to suggest or to prove 332 00:24:51,565 --> 00:24:54,474 That he premeditated killing the victim. 333 00:24:54,494 --> 00:24:56,643 There's no suggestion that it wasn't just, 334 00:24:56,737 --> 00:24:58,329 For example, an accident. 335 00:24:58,556 --> 00:25:00,556 That does put a lot of pressure on that interview 336 00:25:00,574 --> 00:25:03,334 Because this is essentially the one opportunity 337 00:25:03,561 --> 00:25:05,744 You're gonna have to sit down with strong 338 00:25:05,896 --> 00:25:07,988 And gather what you can gather. 339 00:25:08,007 --> 00:25:10,007 And if you don't, 340 00:25:10,158 --> 00:25:14,178 There's a very real risk that he is set free, essentially. 341 00:25:14,329 --> 00:25:16,847 (brooding music) 342 00:25:21,762 --> 00:25:23,912 - My preparation for the interview with adam strong 343 00:25:23,931 --> 00:25:29,342 Actually began by watching his first interview. 344 00:25:29,362 --> 00:25:32,012 It was apparent to me that adam strong 345 00:25:32,031 --> 00:25:34,031 Shied away from any direct questions. 346 00:25:37,703 --> 00:25:40,538 - So, I knew that wasn't going to be my approach. 347 00:25:40,689 --> 00:25:42,856 I knew what I was gonna try and do in that interview room, 348 00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:45,434 Engage him as much as I could in dialogue. 349 00:25:45,527 --> 00:25:46,785 - You have the high stakes, obviously, 350 00:25:46,937 --> 00:25:48,379 What's riding on the interview. 351 00:25:48,530 --> 00:25:51,715 This entire interaction's being videotaped start to finish 352 00:25:51,942 --> 00:25:54,793 And that will be sent to the defense, 353 00:25:54,945 --> 00:25:56,369 That will be sent to the judge, 354 00:25:56,389 --> 00:25:58,781 And they will watch every minute of it 355 00:25:58,874 --> 00:26:02,893 And look for every possible violation. 356 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,728 - I spent probably three weeks preparing 357 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,565 And had everything as I wanted it 358 00:26:07,716 --> 00:26:09,808 And just waited for the day to come. 359 00:26:09,902 --> 00:26:12,570 (brooding music) 360 00:26:23,974 --> 00:26:25,824 I certainly felt some pressure. 361 00:26:25,976 --> 00:26:28,234 The reality is if there was no conviction, 362 00:26:28,329 --> 00:26:29,661 Then he was a free man. 363 00:26:29,755 --> 00:26:30,921 (clock ticking) 364 00:26:39,824 --> 00:26:40,839 - I was wearing a suit. 365 00:26:40,991 --> 00:26:42,841 I want the person across from me 366 00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:47,087 To know they're dealing with a professional, set the tone. 367 00:26:47,181 --> 00:26:48,755 The old expression, 368 00:26:48,774 --> 00:26:50,849 "you only get a chance to make a first impression once," 369 00:26:51,001 --> 00:26:52,610 Rings true in any interrogation. 370 00:27:03,956 --> 00:27:05,605 - Well, you know what? 371 00:27:05,699 --> 00:27:07,683 Certainly checked into how he had been treated thus far. 372 00:27:07,701 --> 00:27:11,444 That's important and it speaks toward admissibility. 373 00:27:11,538 --> 00:27:13,205 Addressed any needs that he had 374 00:27:13,299 --> 00:27:15,966 And he said he hadn't eaten, so we took care of that. 375 00:27:17,303 --> 00:27:18,260 (adam gasping) 376 00:27:25,961 --> 00:27:27,311 - I certainly knew we couldn't rush 377 00:27:27,538 --> 00:27:29,980 Into talking to adam about the case, 378 00:27:30,132 --> 00:27:31,707 Given the fact how it went 379 00:27:31,725 --> 00:27:34,559 With the two detectives back in December of 2017. 380 00:27:34,712 --> 00:27:36,970 Sharing a meal with somebody, breaking bread with somebody, 381 00:27:37,064 --> 00:27:39,323 It's a chance to bond and talk. 382 00:27:50,336 --> 00:27:52,561 - Talked about a whole bunch of different things 383 00:27:52,579 --> 00:27:55,063 To get him into the mindset of just realizing, 384 00:27:55,082 --> 00:27:56,489 "hey, I can talk to this guy 385 00:27:56,509 --> 00:27:58,342 And build a little bit of a relationship." 386 00:28:05,743 --> 00:28:07,926 - And then, once that had gone on 387 00:28:08,078 --> 00:28:09,428 For an hour and a half or so, 388 00:28:09,522 --> 00:28:12,097 I started to talk about the case a little bit. 389 00:28:12,191 --> 00:28:13,190 (clock ticking) 390 00:28:43,872 --> 00:28:45,464 - Paul importantly doesn't react 391 00:28:45,616 --> 00:28:48,300 To what most people would perhaps react to, 392 00:28:48,394 --> 00:28:50,352 Which is, again, a rather shocking thing to say. 393 00:28:56,384 --> 00:28:59,628 - I'm not crazy about sucking in secondhand smoke 394 00:28:59,646 --> 00:29:01,646 In a room that's only about eight-by-eight, 395 00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:04,742 But, again, I wanted him to be comfortable. 396 00:29:04,893 --> 00:29:06,301 I wanted him to like me. 397 00:29:06,394 --> 00:29:08,320 If you do something nice for somebody, 398 00:29:08,472 --> 00:29:10,138 Typically they feel some sort of obligation 399 00:29:10,232 --> 00:29:11,749 To do something nice for you. 400 00:29:43,765 --> 00:29:44,782 - Mother's intuition. 401 00:30:49,573 --> 00:30:51,089 - I did shake his hand at that point, 402 00:30:51,241 --> 00:30:54,593 And that can go either way. 403 00:30:54,687 --> 00:30:57,762 That's a kind of a gamble on my part doing that. 404 00:30:57,915 --> 00:31:01,149 I wanted to thank him for making an admission. 405 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,104 - It's one of the first times that adam has moved 406 00:31:06,256 --> 00:31:08,773 From, "maybe I don't wanna talk about that, 407 00:31:08,868 --> 00:31:11,869 Let's leave it at that," to actually disclosing something 408 00:31:12,096 --> 00:31:13,871 He perhaps wasn't intending on saying. 409 00:31:15,374 --> 00:31:17,875 - I can't waver. 410 00:31:18,102 --> 00:31:21,027 When somebody does tell you something shocking, 411 00:31:21,121 --> 00:31:22,880 You really can't react. 412 00:31:29,129 --> 00:31:31,204 Every time there was a little bit of information 413 00:31:31,223 --> 00:31:34,783 Given to me, maybe even unknowingly by adam strong, 414 00:31:34,801 --> 00:31:37,561 Inside I was giving myself a little fist-pump 415 00:31:37,712 --> 00:31:38,970 Only because I thought 416 00:31:39,064 --> 00:31:41,456 We were advancing the case a little bit here. 417 00:31:41,475 --> 00:31:44,067 (ominous music) 418 00:31:48,741 --> 00:31:50,240 (brooding music) 419 00:32:08,928 --> 00:32:11,595 (brooding music) 420 00:32:17,177 --> 00:32:19,770 - The whole purpose of laying out the evidence presentation 421 00:32:19,921 --> 00:32:22,831 Is to make him aware that the case is built against him, 422 00:32:22,924 --> 00:32:24,775 With the goal of maybe making 423 00:32:24,926 --> 00:32:26,426 The person across from you realize, 424 00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:28,403 "oh my god, they got way more than I thought they got." 425 00:32:31,951 --> 00:32:35,026 It basically started with a case overview. 426 00:32:35,179 --> 00:32:36,602 Basically, I think my first slide 427 00:32:36,697 --> 00:32:38,789 Was a picture of the two victims, 428 00:32:40,517 --> 00:32:42,367 Healthy-looking pictures from the media 429 00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:43,943 That their families would have provided. 430 00:32:43,963 --> 00:32:46,354 The next picture would have been a headline 431 00:32:46,373 --> 00:32:47,872 About the torso being found. 432 00:32:47,967 --> 00:32:49,357 I had a slide in there 433 00:32:49,376 --> 00:32:50,692 About statements that adam made to the police 434 00:32:50,785 --> 00:32:52,135 When they came to his door. 435 00:33:12,232 --> 00:33:14,992 - There was some photos of rori's bruises 436 00:33:15,143 --> 00:33:17,661 And I presented the photographs and asked adam about them. 437 00:33:35,514 --> 00:33:38,923 - There is a strategy to this methodical unveiling 438 00:33:39,076 --> 00:33:41,576 Of piece after piece after piece. 439 00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:43,762 Goal is to build in the suspect's mind 440 00:33:43,856 --> 00:33:48,174 That there's not a whole lot of point in denying 441 00:33:48,268 --> 00:33:51,319 At least some aspects of this because we have these things. 442 00:33:56,851 --> 00:33:59,852 - This is your opportunity to actually do the right thing. 443 00:33:59,872 --> 00:34:02,614 That type of appeal to an adam strong 444 00:34:02,766 --> 00:34:03,689 Certainly wasn't gonna work. 445 00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:05,600 He had no remorse. 446 00:34:05,619 --> 00:34:08,503 But he was very interested in what was on the laptop. 447 00:35:17,023 --> 00:35:18,840 - He thinks, and they are, 448 00:35:18,859 --> 00:35:21,952 Only talking about dismemberment and disposal, 449 00:35:22,103 --> 00:35:25,438 But in fact it's allowing, in this case, the judge 450 00:35:25,532 --> 00:35:29,184 Ultimately to make inferences about what must have happened 451 00:35:29,277 --> 00:35:31,461 During the actual murders that took place. 452 00:35:36,468 --> 00:35:38,802 (brooding music) 453 00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:46,977 (clock ticking) 454 00:36:09,576 --> 00:36:11,501 And his response was, "I'm doing good, yeah. 455 00:36:11,653 --> 00:36:12,818 Good to keep going." 456 00:36:12,913 --> 00:36:14,820 That just, inside, 457 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,898 I would give one of those little fist-pumps right there 458 00:36:16,917 --> 00:36:18,324 Because I know that's something 459 00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:20,251 That would be looked at in court. 460 00:36:20,404 --> 00:36:22,179 He was there because he still wanted to be. 461 00:36:39,272 --> 00:36:41,198 (clock ticking) 462 00:36:57,699 --> 00:37:00,217 (brooding music) 463 00:37:03,722 --> 00:37:06,056 He was still talking right up 'til the minute 464 00:37:06,283 --> 00:37:07,724 I shook his hand and left that room. 465 00:37:15,125 --> 00:37:17,308 There was no clear confession where he said, 466 00:37:17,461 --> 00:37:19,051 "this is how I killed so-and-so 467 00:37:19,071 --> 00:37:20,962 And this is how I killed so-and-so," 468 00:37:20,981 --> 00:37:23,889 But it was a series of inculpatory statements. 469 00:37:23,909 --> 00:37:25,467 And I think, at the end of the day, 470 00:37:25,485 --> 00:37:27,744 I'm sure he wishes he hadn't said as much as he did. 471 00:37:35,903 --> 00:37:37,312 - 46-year-old adam strong has been held 472 00:37:37,405 --> 00:37:38,755 In this police division overnight 473 00:37:38,906 --> 00:37:41,758 As police laid two charges of first-degree murder. 474 00:37:41,985 --> 00:37:45,320 He appeared via video link on a projector screen 475 00:37:45,338 --> 00:37:47,931 In the courtroom just down the street from here, 476 00:37:48,082 --> 00:37:49,432 His back to the wall, 477 00:37:49,659 --> 00:37:52,918 His black hair stringy around his face. 478 00:37:52,938 --> 00:37:55,588 When asked, he said his name and then, 479 00:37:55,607 --> 00:37:57,757 "I'm tired, I just want to go to bed. 480 00:37:57,851 --> 00:37:59,276 I've been up all night. 481 00:37:59,427 --> 00:38:01,185 It's been a long day." 482 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,947 (brooding music) 483 00:38:10,697 --> 00:38:12,363 - I think he thought he was a lot smarter 484 00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:14,182 Than everybody that was sitting across from him. 485 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,751 (intense music) 486 00:38:20,206 --> 00:38:23,191 - The judge watched the entire 12-hour interview, 487 00:38:23,209 --> 00:38:26,469 Went through it, and the ruling came back quite clearly 488 00:38:26,696 --> 00:38:29,047 That strong was well taken care of, 489 00:38:29,141 --> 00:38:30,882 He seemed comfortable, his needs were all met, 490 00:38:30,976 --> 00:38:33,368 There was no trickery, there was no oppression. 491 00:38:33,386 --> 00:38:36,871 This was essentially a slam dunk in terms of admissibility, 492 00:38:36,964 --> 00:38:39,131 Which is rare for a 12-hour interview. 493 00:38:39,151 --> 00:38:41,818 (intense music) 494 00:38:50,554 --> 00:38:52,403 - A video court appearance is set today 495 00:38:52,497 --> 00:38:55,557 For the oshawa man now facing two murder charges 496 00:38:55,575 --> 00:38:58,743 In connection with the killings of two teenage girls. 497 00:38:58,895 --> 00:39:00,078 - Yes, there's forensic evidence, 498 00:39:00,230 --> 00:39:02,488 But in order to move from that 499 00:39:02,582 --> 00:39:04,490 To any type of homicide charge, 500 00:39:04,584 --> 00:39:07,752 Particularly first-degree, which is planned and deliberate, 501 00:39:07,904 --> 00:39:08,920 That's because of the interview. 502 00:39:09,072 --> 00:39:10,421 That's because of the context 503 00:39:10,515 --> 00:39:13,091 Of what he said during that 12-hour interaction. 504 00:39:13,243 --> 00:39:17,687 So, it really was the linchpin of this case. 505 00:39:19,674 --> 00:39:22,025 (uneasy music) 506 00:39:22,176 --> 00:39:24,527 (dates clicking) 507 00:39:25,772 --> 00:39:27,105 - [reporter] adam strong, 508 00:39:27,257 --> 00:39:29,699 Guilty of first-degree murder and manslaughter, 509 00:39:29,926 --> 00:39:33,261 Is now going away to prison for good. 510 00:39:33,279 --> 00:39:38,691 - Adam was convicted of first-degree murder on rori 511 00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:41,378 And ultimately convicted of manslaughter 512 00:39:42,864 --> 00:39:45,382 On the second victim instead of first-degree murder. 513 00:39:47,127 --> 00:39:50,387 I think it was really to do with the lack of evidence 514 00:39:50,614 --> 00:39:51,946 On a murder. 515 00:39:51,965 --> 00:39:54,449 - Detective mitton and the investigative team 516 00:39:54,542 --> 00:39:56,618 Got a first-degree murder charge 517 00:39:56,711 --> 00:39:59,229 And a manslaughter with no confession. 518 00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:05,235 - He seemed shocked and put his head down. 519 00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:08,905 Maybe he thought he was gonna be guilty on one 520 00:40:09,056 --> 00:40:10,890 But not the other, 521 00:40:10,984 --> 00:40:14,560 But to be convicted on both might have been a shock to him. 522 00:40:14,579 --> 00:40:16,246 - I'm disturbed by what I've seen in the courtroom. 523 00:40:16,397 --> 00:40:18,156 That man has no emotion. 524 00:40:18,308 --> 00:40:19,398 You would think he was here 525 00:40:19,418 --> 00:40:21,659 For running over a kid's basketball today. 526 00:40:21,753 --> 00:40:23,753 That's the empathy he has for what he's done. 527 00:40:24,906 --> 00:40:27,590 (uneasy music) 528 00:40:27,742 --> 00:40:30,385 (dates clicking) 529 00:40:32,155 --> 00:40:33,488 - [reporter] strong received a sentence 530 00:40:33,506 --> 00:40:37,100 Of life in prison without parole for 25 years 531 00:40:37,251 --> 00:40:41,329 And 18 years concurrently for the manslaughter conviction. 532 00:40:41,422 --> 00:40:43,440 - There definitely was a danger. 533 00:40:43,591 --> 00:40:44,999 They pulled the indignity, 534 00:40:45,018 --> 00:40:47,944 So if things went south in that interview room, 535 00:40:49,597 --> 00:40:52,006 He may have walked. 536 00:40:52,099 --> 00:40:53,533 That would have been a travesty. 537 00:40:55,028 --> 00:40:57,361 - The sentence he was given is the maximum sentence 538 00:40:57,514 --> 00:40:59,289 You can receive in this country. 539 00:40:59,516 --> 00:41:01,699 So, yes, I feel justice was served. 540 00:41:01,793 --> 00:41:04,109 - [reporter] in his remarks, justice joseph di luca 541 00:41:04,129 --> 00:41:06,204 Addressed strong directly, saying, 542 00:41:06,356 --> 00:41:08,690 "your moment before us is done. 543 00:41:08,783 --> 00:41:10,692 You are a dangerous predator 544 00:41:10,785 --> 00:41:13,470 Who will never be seen in public again." 545 00:41:15,031 --> 00:41:16,380 - Having the judge say what he said, 546 00:41:16,533 --> 00:41:19,309 It felt right and it felt good 547 00:41:19,460 --> 00:41:23,128 And I found a little peace in that. 548 00:41:23,148 --> 00:41:25,482 I was ready to start mourning rori. 549 00:41:25,633 --> 00:41:27,984 (sullen music) 550 00:41:29,988 --> 00:41:33,381 (dates clicking) 551 00:41:33,399 --> 00:41:35,383 - While adam was in custody, 552 00:41:35,476 --> 00:41:38,495 Adam revealed the location of the burial 553 00:41:38,646 --> 00:41:43,407 Of the second victim and even took the police to the area 554 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,834 Or general area where it was. 555 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,745 - Human remains buried underground 556 00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:49,672 Were first located on Monday, November 8th. 557 00:41:51,584 --> 00:41:54,068 I can confirm today that the remains found last November 558 00:41:54,161 --> 00:41:55,512 Are those of kandis fitzpatrick. 559 00:41:57,849 --> 00:42:01,409 - I personally think he's been incarcerated now 560 00:42:01,502 --> 00:42:03,077 In that facility for a number of months 561 00:42:03,096 --> 00:42:05,855 And maybe he felt like he needed some time out 562 00:42:06,007 --> 00:42:08,766 And this was a way for him to go on a bit of an outing 563 00:42:08,918 --> 00:42:11,677 Is to give up some information like that. 564 00:42:11,696 --> 00:42:15,365 But I don't think that he found remorse all of a sudden. 565 00:42:18,686 --> 00:42:21,262 - Anyone can do an interview, 566 00:42:21,281 --> 00:42:24,874 But to be a high-level interviewer like this 567 00:42:25,026 --> 00:42:27,618 Is incredibly complex. 568 00:42:27,771 --> 00:42:30,454 You kind of forget just how difficult it is 569 00:42:30,607 --> 00:42:33,107 And how few people can do it at that level. 570 00:42:33,126 --> 00:42:35,218 (intense music) 571 00:42:35,445 --> 00:42:37,554 - I think this case challenged me most. 572 00:42:37,705 --> 00:42:41,632 This interview definitely was the highlight of my career. 573 00:42:41,785 --> 00:42:43,726 - It's really tough to describe adam strong. 574 00:42:43,953 --> 00:42:45,878 I have never met an individual like him. 575 00:42:45,972 --> 00:42:50,066 It was a tough investigation, but we speak for the victims. 576 00:42:51,403 --> 00:42:52,476 We're trying to bring them justice 577 00:42:52,629 --> 00:42:55,813 And give the family answers. 578 00:42:55,907 --> 00:42:59,133 - I'll always be holding my breath when it comes to this. 579 00:42:59,152 --> 00:43:01,393 It'll never be over for me. 580 00:43:01,413 --> 00:43:03,413 She had her entire life ahead of her. 581 00:43:04,490 --> 00:43:05,748 That chance was taken from her.