1 00:00:00,292 --> 00:00:02,294          to get my hair cut          2 00:00:02,336 --> 00:00:04,088     before God became my barber.     3 00:00:04,130 --> 00:00:05,381              [chuckles]                            You know?              4 00:00:05,422 --> 00:00:08,801                And...                5 00:00:08,843 --> 00:00:10,928      I used to tell the barber,      6 00:00:10,970 --> 00:00:15,266      "Rich, never turn me around          when you're doing my hair.      7 00:00:15,307 --> 00:00:17,810            "Always get me            8 00:00:17,852 --> 00:00:20,938           facing the door."          9 00:00:20,980 --> 00:00:25,192       And he'd have that cloth            over you in the barbershop.     10 00:00:25,234 --> 00:00:28,529         And I would sit there                     with my gun             11 00:00:28,571 --> 00:00:30,156     waiting for them to come in.     12 00:00:30,197 --> 00:00:31,198            [hammer clicks]           13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,451      So they got me, I got them.     14 00:00:34,743 --> 00:00:37,663              somber music           15 00:00:37,705 --> 00:00:43,127                                      16 00:01:44,897 --> 00:01:47,858            [phone buzzing]           17 00:01:49,985 --> 00:01:51,570           [automated voice]                  You have a prepaid call.      18 00:01:51,612 --> 00:01:53,530         You will not be charged                    for this call.           19 00:01:57,618 --> 00:01:59,745      [Supreme]   We were the type           of dudes that were respectful.  20 00:01:59,787 --> 00:02:02,498       Like, we stayed out the way                  of the police.           21 00:02:05,084 --> 00:02:06,252        It was a grudging respect.     22 00:02:06,293 --> 00:02:08,003         I mean, like, you know,                   they the police.          23 00:02:08,045 --> 00:02:10,422          Don't fuck with them.        24 00:02:10,464 --> 00:02:11,757                 And hope                      they don't fuck with us.      25 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:14,426            [phone beeping]           26 00:02:14,468 --> 00:02:17,096       dramatic orchestral music     27 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:20,599                                      28 00:02:20,641 --> 00:02:22,726     [Bing]   See, we were way over              on this side of town.        29 00:02:22,768 --> 00:02:25,271                                      30 00:02:25,312 --> 00:02:28,774      And at the time, can't nobody             know our whereabouts.        31 00:02:28,816 --> 00:02:30,943      [Supreme]   We were in, like,           a little suburbs in Queens.     32 00:02:30,985 --> 00:02:33,737        That was like a nice area.                   All houses.             33 00:02:33,779 --> 00:02:37,324                [Bing]                        '85. September 10, 1985.      34 00:02:37,366 --> 00:02:40,744         We was all inside there,                       TV on,               35 00:02:40,786 --> 00:02:43,330     probably counting some money,        doing whatever in that joint.    36 00:02:43,372 --> 00:02:44,665       And then all of a sudden,                 we hear a boom.           37 00:02:44,707 --> 00:02:46,583         -Like, what the fuck?             -[indistinct radio chatter]     38 00:02:46,625 --> 00:02:48,294           Look out the window,        39 00:02:48,335 --> 00:02:50,129         they had this whole shit                    surrounded.             40 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:52,840           The whole, entire--               seemed like the whole block.    41 00:02:52,881 --> 00:02:55,759            [siren wailing]           42 00:02:55,801 --> 00:02:56,969            Search warrants                     had never really           43 00:02:57,011 --> 00:02:58,554    been issued in the first place,  44 00:02:58,595 --> 00:03:00,472     but just how badly they just           wanted us off the street.      45 00:03:00,514 --> 00:03:02,975                                      46 00:03:03,017 --> 00:03:05,144           At that time, the DA                 was Sterling Johnson,        47 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:05,978           way from Manhattan.         48 00:03:06,020 --> 00:03:08,939                                      49 00:03:08,981 --> 00:03:11,317       [Sterling]   I'll give you            a little about my background.    50 00:03:11,358 --> 00:03:15,404         I grew up in the era                of Plessy vs. Ferguson,       51 00:03:15,446 --> 00:03:18,282      when segregation was legal.     52 00:03:18,324 --> 00:03:20,826       Racism was always abound.      53 00:03:20,868 --> 00:03:25,497      I had no political ambitions.            Just to be a prosecutor.      54 00:03:25,539 --> 00:03:27,458                                      55 00:03:27,499 --> 00:03:30,961      McGriff was a charismatic guy           and people look up to him.     56 00:03:31,003 --> 00:03:33,005          He dressed very well.        57 00:03:33,047 --> 00:03:36,300        He had a lot of women.            Lot of young girls, you know?    58 00:03:36,342 --> 00:03:39,845            He's very visible.         59 00:03:39,887 --> 00:03:43,307          [Supreme]   Mind you,                  my case is in Queens.        60 00:03:43,349 --> 00:03:44,558         But somehow or another,       61 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,852              they was able                    to get me out of Queens       62 00:03:46,894 --> 00:03:48,896       and in front of the special              narcotics prosecutor,        63 00:03:48,937 --> 00:03:51,023            Sterling Johnson.          64 00:03:51,065 --> 00:03:53,525             [siren wailing]           65 00:03:53,567 --> 00:03:55,527              [Sterling]                     The ironic thing about it,     66 00:03:55,569 --> 00:04:00,532      McGriff lived on 231st Street.  67 00:04:00,574 --> 00:04:02,618       I lived on 229th Street.       68 00:04:02,659 --> 00:04:04,203        dramatic drumroll plays      69 00:04:04,244 --> 00:04:06,121                                      70 00:04:06,163 --> 00:04:07,539            He never knew it.          71 00:04:07,581 --> 00:04:11,794                                      72 00:04:11,835 --> 00:04:13,337               Oh, shit.              73 00:04:13,379 --> 00:04:16,298               Wow, wow.              74 00:04:16,340 --> 00:04:17,966             No. For real?            75 00:04:18,008 --> 00:04:20,386                                      76 00:04:20,427 --> 00:04:24,348             Two blocks away?                        That creep.             77 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:25,891      That's why he was on our body.  78 00:04:25,933 --> 00:04:28,560             'Cause we was                    in his neighborhood.         79 00:04:28,602 --> 00:04:30,229                  Oh.                 80 00:04:30,270 --> 00:04:32,731                                      81 00:04:32,773 --> 00:04:37,361        [Nas]   After that raid,                   Supreme went away.         82 00:04:37,403 --> 00:04:38,904          downbeat jazz music        83 00:04:38,946 --> 00:04:41,115        The figurehead of the team                  was locked up.           84 00:04:41,156 --> 00:04:44,785                                      85 00:04:45,119 --> 00:04:47,913     [Supreme]   I-I-I wouldn't say                 I was surprised           86 00:04:47,955 --> 00:04:51,708            because it's part                      of the process.           87 00:04:51,750 --> 00:04:54,086        So if you're in the game,      88 00:04:54,128 --> 00:04:56,255         at some point, you know,               you're gonna go down.        89 00:04:56,296 --> 00:05:00,342                                      90 00:05:00,384 --> 00:05:04,138        [Sterling]   I never met               a drug dealer who retired.     91 00:05:04,179 --> 00:05:06,432                  Never.               92 00:05:06,473 --> 00:05:08,642             But it's like                     going into combat.          93 00:05:08,684 --> 00:05:10,936          You know there are                  gonna be casualties,         94 00:05:10,978 --> 00:05:12,229       but you say to yourself,       95 00:05:12,271 --> 00:05:13,147          "It's always gonna                    be the other guy.          96 00:05:13,188 --> 00:05:14,440        It's not gonna be me."        97 00:05:15,732 --> 00:05:18,610             dramatic music          98 00:05:18,652 --> 00:05:23,949                                      99 00:05:30,831 --> 00:05:33,083      [Bill]   There is the first,                      I guess,              100 00:05:33,125 --> 00:05:35,961        era of the Supreme Team           where Supreme is in control.     101 00:05:36,003 --> 00:05:38,130         He goes away to jail                 for about eight years        102 00:05:38,172 --> 00:05:42,426    and his nephew, Prince Miller,                 takes over.             103 00:05:42,468 --> 00:05:43,427               [Prince]                     When Preme went away, yeah,     104 00:05:43,469 --> 00:05:45,804      everything fell under me then.  105 00:05:45,846 --> 00:05:47,306          But I would always try                  to listen to him.          106 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:49,808      The only thing I didn't listen            to was when he said,        107 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:52,686          "Man, leave it alone."       108 00:05:52,728 --> 00:05:54,146              [reporter]                    On the streets of New York,     109 00:05:54,188 --> 00:05:56,690            it's called crack,              and the deals go down quickly.  110 00:05:56,732 --> 00:05:58,942       You've just witnessed a buy.    111 00:05:58,984 --> 00:06:01,528        This form of cocaine comes                  concentrated.            112 00:06:01,570 --> 00:06:03,822              It is smoked,                      rather than sniffed.        113 00:06:03,864 --> 00:06:07,075       It produces an intense high            within five to ten seconds     114 00:06:07,117 --> 00:06:09,703                that lasts                     only five to ten minutes      115 00:06:09,745 --> 00:06:12,831           and leaves the user                    craving for more.          116 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:14,750              And this is                   the most addicting thing       117 00:06:14,791 --> 00:06:17,544      that probably ever existed                  in the world.            118 00:06:17,586 --> 00:06:20,923                You know?                     It will make you a slave.      119 00:06:20,964 --> 00:06:25,469                                      120 00:06:25,511 --> 00:06:27,763    They're moving a lot of drugs,       but there's a lot of problems,    121 00:06:27,804 --> 00:06:29,348           a lot of violence                     on the street.            122 00:06:29,389 --> 00:06:32,309         tense orchestral music      123 00:06:32,351 --> 00:06:34,603          [Nas]   Word is that                   when Prince took over,       124 00:06:34,645 --> 00:06:37,272        some of the team's tactics                     changed.              125 00:06:37,314 --> 00:06:39,107           [sirens wailing]           126 00:06:39,149 --> 00:06:40,442           [Gary]   Prince is                    a little bit younger,        127 00:06:40,484 --> 00:06:41,693            but when he came,          128 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:44,154           he staked his claim                      on who he was.           129 00:06:44,196 --> 00:06:45,697      He was just like his uncle.     130 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:48,867      There are some differences,         but they both are go-getters,    131 00:06:48,909 --> 00:06:50,494       they both were super smart,     132 00:06:50,536 --> 00:06:52,538       and they both didn't want                  to be denied.            133 00:06:52,579 --> 00:06:54,248            Here it is, bam          134 00:06:54,289 --> 00:06:57,167          And you say "Goddamn,                this is a dope jam"         135 00:06:57,209 --> 00:06:59,711             But let's define                  the term called dope        136 00:06:59,753 --> 00:07:01,755              And you think                   it mean funky now, no        137 00:07:01,797 --> 00:07:03,257          Here is a true tale        138 00:07:03,298 --> 00:07:04,800     [reporter]   While Carmen Ortiz               clutched pictures          139 00:07:04,841 --> 00:07:06,218      of her dead son this evening,    140 00:07:06,260 --> 00:07:08,303         David Rosario's friends                    played outside           141 00:07:08,345 --> 00:07:10,973           on a street infested                  with crack dealers.         142 00:07:11,014 --> 00:07:12,349    Are you afraid when you go out           on the street at night?       143 00:07:12,391 --> 00:07:14,226                 -Yes.                          -[reporter] Why?           144 00:07:14,268 --> 00:07:16,687     There a lot of crack dealers.              They be shooting.          145 00:07:16,728 --> 00:07:17,980           Sniffing, riffing         146 00:07:18,021 --> 00:07:20,691    [Mark]   Everyone became addicted  147 00:07:20,732 --> 00:07:23,151          to this unholy energy                    on the streets.           148 00:07:23,193 --> 00:07:27,406      You know, whether it was kids           or the cops or reporters.      149 00:07:27,447 --> 00:07:29,866         I'm talking about bass      150 00:07:29,908 --> 00:07:31,910    [Mark]   I got to the   Daily News             in the summer of '88.        151 00:07:31,952 --> 00:07:33,537                  I was                     a general assignment reporter    152 00:07:33,579 --> 00:07:36,206              covering crack                      and crack dealers.         153 00:07:36,248 --> 00:07:38,417        And I fucking loved it.       154 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:43,046       I never rolled up to news         scenes that were that intense.    155 00:07:43,088 --> 00:07:45,424       [reporter]   Police figures             confirm that without doubt     156 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:48,510              the 1980s was                 the bloodiest ten-year period    157 00:07:48,552 --> 00:07:50,262        in New York City history.      158 00:07:50,304 --> 00:07:51,471                And those                       that sell to Black         159 00:07:51,513 --> 00:07:52,806           Shame on a brother        160 00:07:52,848 --> 00:07:54,725               [Shannon]                   Prince got all of us together    161 00:07:54,766 --> 00:07:58,562      and we made a lot of money.     162 00:07:58,604 --> 00:08:00,188       From a corner from a brother          to keep another below        163 00:08:00,230 --> 00:08:03,025    [Shannon]   We were branching out                 all over.              164 00:08:03,066 --> 00:08:05,277            - Yo, Black, yo                    - We are willing!         165 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:07,070         [Shannon]   He was good                 at structuring things,       166 00:08:07,112 --> 00:08:07,946                you know?              167 00:08:07,988 --> 00:08:09,406        He was very good at that.      168 00:08:09,448 --> 00:08:12,409           Day to day, to day,                they say no other way        169 00:08:12,451 --> 00:08:14,703      [Shannon]   If he seen a spot               where it would be--         170 00:08:14,745 --> 00:08:17,664                 he think                    it might produce some money,    171 00:08:17,706 --> 00:08:20,167       he would give out samples              to all the different,        172 00:08:20,208 --> 00:08:22,586           you know, fiends.          173 00:08:22,628 --> 00:08:26,465       And once he gets everything              structured, it builds.       174 00:08:26,506 --> 00:08:29,843       dramatic orchestral music     175 00:08:29,885 --> 00:08:32,012               [Prince]                    I'm very, very good at chess.    176 00:08:32,054 --> 00:08:35,974           I watch my opponent                 while I'm playing them.       177 00:08:36,016 --> 00:08:37,643       I see his moves he's making,    178 00:08:37,684 --> 00:08:41,647        and I try to think, like,             five to eight moves ahead.     179 00:08:41,688 --> 00:08:42,606          Next thing they know,                     they look up.            180 00:08:42,648 --> 00:08:45,734                  Damn!                               Checkmate.             181 00:08:45,776 --> 00:08:47,819            When I play chess,                    I'm not in prison.         182 00:08:47,861 --> 00:08:49,446          You moving your pieces                    and, you know,           183 00:08:49,488 --> 00:08:50,530        you organizing, you know?      184 00:08:50,572 --> 00:08:52,324           And you beat the guy                      to the punch            185 00:08:52,366 --> 00:08:55,285        and then you gotta be able             to see the whole board.       186 00:08:55,327 --> 00:08:56,453             It's like life.           187 00:08:56,495 --> 00:08:59,831                                      188 00:08:59,873 --> 00:09:01,375      [Corey]   When he took over,      189 00:09:01,416 --> 00:09:05,712       it was the most violent time              in the Supreme Team.        190 00:09:05,754 --> 00:09:07,881               I was happy                        for a little while         191 00:09:07,923 --> 00:09:10,384            until I started                seeing people disappearing.     192 00:09:10,425 --> 00:09:13,136      I'd be like, "Yo, what's up         with--where's such-and-such?"    193 00:09:13,178 --> 00:09:14,930      It's like, "Nah," you know,                 "He's gone."             194 00:09:14,971 --> 00:09:16,390          "Where's this one?"                        "Gone."               195 00:09:16,431 --> 00:09:18,225         Or I'd be in the park        196 00:09:18,266 --> 00:09:22,270        and, you know, one of the            big bosses come in the park,    197 00:09:22,312 --> 00:09:24,314         take one of his workers,      198 00:09:24,356 --> 00:09:27,317      and, like, beat him down like,          black eyes, everything.       199 00:09:27,359 --> 00:09:29,486    And he looks at the rest of us                and was like,            200 00:09:29,528 --> 00:09:30,696      "Y'all want some of this?"      201 00:09:30,737 --> 00:09:32,155           And it's like...           202 00:09:32,197 --> 00:09:33,490                 "Nah.                203 00:09:33,532 --> 00:09:34,783     "We don't want none of that.     204 00:09:34,825 --> 00:09:36,868       I'm going back over here             to finish this package."       205 00:09:36,910 --> 00:09:38,995                                      206 00:09:39,037 --> 00:09:40,455           Man, it's just--                       in that way,             207 00:09:40,497 --> 00:09:42,874           I heard of people              getting thrown off of roofs,     208 00:09:42,916 --> 00:09:45,210          thrown out windows.         209 00:09:45,252 --> 00:09:48,880    [Mook]   It just came a time when          certain people feel like      210 00:09:48,922 --> 00:09:51,550      certain people didn't deserve         a block, street, or a corner,    211 00:09:51,591 --> 00:09:53,343       so that's like anything,             you know what I'm saying?      212 00:09:53,385 --> 00:09:55,178       Only the strong survive,               especially back then.        213 00:09:55,220 --> 00:09:56,888                                      214 00:09:56,930 --> 00:09:59,224         [indistinct chatter]         215 00:09:59,266 --> 00:10:00,642               [Prince]                      First of all, what I'ma do     216 00:10:00,684 --> 00:10:02,185               is I'ma take                    some of that perception       217 00:10:02,227 --> 00:10:04,229             because there's                    no question about it.        218 00:10:04,271 --> 00:10:06,398            I was a criminal.                    I was selling drugs.        219 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,735        You know what I'm saying?                I was a drug dealer.        220 00:10:09,776 --> 00:10:11,403              That's a past                      that I can't erase.         221 00:10:11,445 --> 00:10:13,321                In regards                    to how much I've changed,      222 00:10:13,363 --> 00:10:14,573             that's my past.           223 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:15,741        You know what I'm saying?      224 00:10:15,782 --> 00:10:17,242           But that being said,        225 00:10:17,284 --> 00:10:19,786         a lot of stuff they said                     was false.             226 00:10:20,996 --> 00:10:23,957            soft piano music         227 00:10:23,999 --> 00:10:28,253                                      228 00:10:28,295 --> 00:10:31,256      I lot of people wanna hear              these myths of this,         229 00:10:31,298 --> 00:10:32,299           the myth of that.          230 00:10:32,340 --> 00:10:33,967            They wanna know                     if this was true,          231 00:10:34,009 --> 00:10:36,928            that was true,                     all this bullshit.          232 00:10:36,970 --> 00:10:41,391        But nobody asked, um...       233 00:10:41,433 --> 00:10:43,268       about home or, you know,       234 00:10:43,310 --> 00:10:46,062             what happens                    when this man go home?        235 00:10:46,104 --> 00:10:46,938               Nothing.               236 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:48,774        Dinner's on the table.        237 00:10:48,815 --> 00:10:51,359           The dogs are fed.          238 00:10:51,401 --> 00:10:54,446           We watch a movie,                  maybe even sometimes.        239 00:10:54,488 --> 00:10:55,864               You know?              240 00:10:55,906 --> 00:10:57,908      Just come down to my room,                sit down with me,          241 00:10:57,949 --> 00:11:00,702      and just talk about nothing                for 20 minutes.           242 00:11:00,744 --> 00:11:04,289      Just wanted to make sure my          mind learn something today.     243 00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:05,916               You know?              244 00:11:05,957 --> 00:11:07,959           Needed that shit.          245 00:11:08,001 --> 00:11:09,211         Everybody need that.         246 00:11:09,252 --> 00:11:11,379                                      247 00:11:11,421 --> 00:11:12,964           So if this was the--        248 00:11:13,006 --> 00:11:15,300         they call him a kingpin,                     some shit?             249 00:11:15,342 --> 00:11:17,636          He was the kingpin                     of the family.            250 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:19,137              [chuckles]              251 00:11:19,179 --> 00:11:22,224             That family.                  Fuck all this street shit.      252 00:11:22,265 --> 00:11:26,353                                      253 00:11:26,394 --> 00:11:29,815       [Suzette]   We got married                  in December, like,         254 00:11:29,856 --> 00:11:32,025         little before Christmas.      255 00:11:32,067 --> 00:11:33,944                                      256 00:11:33,985 --> 00:11:35,487            The wedding was--                       it was small.            257 00:11:35,529 --> 00:11:38,323      It was my mother, his family,                   my sister.             258 00:11:38,365 --> 00:11:40,534             It was a really,                   really small wedding.        259 00:11:40,575 --> 00:11:41,868                                      260 00:11:41,910 --> 00:11:43,662           Everybody cried.           261 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:46,039             But it was--                       it was memorable.          262 00:11:46,081 --> 00:11:48,500                                      263 00:11:48,542 --> 00:11:49,793                Money?                264 00:11:49,835 --> 00:11:51,336         Money was ridiculous.        265 00:11:51,378 --> 00:11:53,463           Money was, like,                  garbage bags of money.        266 00:11:53,505 --> 00:11:57,092      If I was bored, I would go         and buy the Salmon's furniture.  267 00:11:57,133 --> 00:11:58,593           Because I was bored,        268 00:11:58,635 --> 00:12:01,346      I would just change everything               in the house.            269 00:12:01,388 --> 00:12:04,015            And then I'll see                  a fur commercial on TV.       270 00:12:04,057 --> 00:12:05,642              I was like,                  "Oh, look at those coats."      271 00:12:05,684 --> 00:12:08,019     "All right, go get the coat."        Like, yeah, it became normal.    272 00:12:08,061 --> 00:12:10,313                It was.                     It was like, "Whatever."       273 00:12:10,355 --> 00:12:13,358                                      274 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,485      I wasn't out and about, like,                  a whole lot.            275 00:12:15,527 --> 00:12:17,696       But when I did, you know,             people acknowledge you,       276 00:12:17,737 --> 00:12:20,532        they respect you a lot            because you're Prince's wife.    277 00:12:20,574 --> 00:12:22,826         And everybody kind of                 looked out for me.          278 00:12:22,868 --> 00:12:26,872         We were pretty safe.                     It felt safe.            279 00:12:26,913 --> 00:12:30,083      Sometimes when we went out,         someone had to come with us.     280 00:12:30,125 --> 00:12:33,712        But for the most part,                    we were good.            281 00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:34,713       [Prince]   That is a fact.       282 00:12:34,754 --> 00:12:36,715       You know, what it was then,     283 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:39,885           whole bunch of money                and it was a fast life.       284 00:12:39,926 --> 00:12:41,595        And, uh, it was deep, man.     285 00:12:41,636 --> 00:12:45,181                                      286 00:12:45,223 --> 00:12:47,434       [Suzette]   Home was home.                      Literally.             287 00:12:47,475 --> 00:12:49,227            No work came home.         288 00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:53,148                                      289 00:12:53,189 --> 00:12:54,441          It was one incident.         290 00:12:54,482 --> 00:12:56,151           [sirens wailing]           291 00:12:56,192 --> 00:12:59,654      Prince was taking the kids,                Tuff and my son           292 00:12:59,696 --> 00:13:02,073             to buy bikes.            293 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:03,241          And they were going                     to this store            294 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:05,035           on Jamaica Avenue                    named Bellitte's.          295 00:13:05,076 --> 00:13:06,578             So they went,                    picked out the bikes,        296 00:13:06,620 --> 00:13:08,538             but they had                  to put the bikes together.      297 00:13:08,580 --> 00:13:11,416         And so they came home                 for a few minutes,          298 00:13:11,458 --> 00:13:13,585          they took the kids,                 and they left again.         299 00:13:13,627 --> 00:13:16,212    When he went back out the door,  300 00:13:16,254 --> 00:13:18,924        you just hear gunshots.       301 00:13:18,965 --> 00:13:21,927              -[gunfire]                       -[tires squealing]          302 00:13:21,968 --> 00:13:24,262           suspenseful music         303 00:13:24,304 --> 00:13:28,058        [Prince]   We was living             right off of Linden Boulevard.  304 00:13:28,099 --> 00:13:31,019        What happened was we came,                 got in the car,           305 00:13:31,061 --> 00:13:32,354             we was driving,           306 00:13:32,395 --> 00:13:34,606         and it just so happened                   I'm looking down          307 00:13:34,648 --> 00:13:38,401      and a van's on the wrong side                 of the street.           308 00:13:38,443 --> 00:13:41,112        So the van makes a U-turn,                  pulls around,            309 00:13:41,154 --> 00:13:42,948           tries to cut us off.        310 00:13:42,989 --> 00:13:44,491                And before                      it can even get there,       311 00:13:44,532 --> 00:13:47,827             I said, "Yo, yo!                  It's a hit, it's a hit!"      312 00:13:47,869 --> 00:13:50,622                                      313 00:13:50,664 --> 00:13:52,749    [Tuff]   I think three gentlemen               jump out that van,         314 00:13:52,791 --> 00:13:55,919         two and then the driver,                end up jumping out.         315 00:13:55,961 --> 00:13:57,629           You get strategic                   is what he told me.         316 00:13:57,671 --> 00:14:00,924       Told me you don't panic.       317 00:14:00,966 --> 00:14:04,094         You either gonna live                  or you gonna die.          318 00:14:04,135 --> 00:14:05,971         But you don't panic.         319 00:14:06,012 --> 00:14:08,014               [Prince]                        The dudes in the van,        320 00:14:08,056 --> 00:14:10,475           they were so spooked                   at the reputation,         321 00:14:10,517 --> 00:14:12,143            but they shooting                       over the car.            322 00:14:12,185 --> 00:14:14,437       Not one bullet hit the car.                  Not even one.            323 00:14:14,479 --> 00:14:16,982                                      324 00:14:17,023 --> 00:14:18,984              And they lucky                      I wasn't strapped.         325 00:14:19,025 --> 00:14:20,318         They would've been down                     right there.            326 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,487             It would've been                       self-defense.            327 00:14:22,529 --> 00:14:23,989               [Suzette]                        I was in the shower.        328 00:14:24,030 --> 00:14:25,490           The door was closed,             but I hear my sister yelling.    329 00:14:25,532 --> 00:14:27,117          I'm like, "Oh, my God,                    open the door.           330 00:14:27,158 --> 00:14:27,951          "They gonna kill him,                  they gonna kill him.        331 00:14:27,993 --> 00:14:28,994             Open the door."           332 00:14:29,035 --> 00:14:30,578        And Prince kind of ran in.     333 00:14:30,620 --> 00:14:31,621          And so to this day,         334 00:14:31,663 --> 00:14:33,623            I don't shower                    with the door closed,        335 00:14:33,665 --> 00:14:36,459         'cause I need to hear              what's going on outside.       336 00:14:36,501 --> 00:14:38,336           [tires squealing]          337 00:14:38,378 --> 00:14:41,256     [Prince]   And then, you know,           at that time, not gonna lie,    338 00:14:41,297 --> 00:14:43,800            we chased the van                   and the van got away.        339 00:14:43,842 --> 00:14:45,135        You know what I'm saying?      340 00:14:45,176 --> 00:14:46,136            And that was that.         341 00:14:46,177 --> 00:14:48,388           [engine revving]           342 00:14:48,430 --> 00:14:51,099            The police come                  and yeah, they kinda--        343 00:14:51,141 --> 00:14:52,517          they stayed outside                for a really long time.       344 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:55,270            Like, I guess,                     just investigating.         345 00:14:55,311 --> 00:14:56,646       But Prince really didn't                   talk to them.            346 00:14:56,688 --> 00:14:57,439              He didn't.              347 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,357                                      348 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:01,359                 [Nas]                      When you on top of the game,    349 00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:04,195        everyone's trying to come                   for your spot            350 00:15:04,237 --> 00:15:07,032        either as rival gangsters,     351 00:15:07,073 --> 00:15:10,410       up-and-comers, or the cops.     352 00:15:10,452 --> 00:15:13,413            [siren wailing]           353 00:15:13,455 --> 00:15:15,457         [reporter]   Police say              it was just before 3:30 a.m.    354 00:15:15,498 --> 00:15:17,876        when a brown car pulled up                  to the corner            355 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,670           of 107th Avenue and              Inwood Street here in Jamaica.  356 00:15:20,712 --> 00:15:22,547              That is where                      Officer Edward Byrne        357 00:15:22,589 --> 00:15:26,634            was sitting alone                     in his patrol car.         358 00:15:26,676 --> 00:15:28,386         [reporter]   As he sat                    in his patrol car          359 00:15:28,428 --> 00:15:30,722      guarding the home of a witness              in a drug case,           360 00:15:30,764 --> 00:15:33,892      rookie policeman Edward Byrne               was shot to death.         361 00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:36,352     [reporter]   One man reportedly              got out of the car,         362 00:15:36,394 --> 00:15:38,730            fired five rounds                from a high-caliber weapon.     363 00:15:38,772 --> 00:15:42,734      Three of those shots hit Byrne       in the left side of his head.    364 00:15:42,776 --> 00:15:44,402        [reporter]   Edward Byrne                 followed his father,        365 00:15:44,444 --> 00:15:46,696          a retired lieutenant,                     into the NYPD.           366 00:15:46,738 --> 00:15:49,240         He only joined the force                     last July.             367 00:15:49,282 --> 00:15:51,785       This week, he celebrated                his 22nd birthday.          368 00:15:51,826 --> 00:15:54,079                                      369 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,249      '88, I was a police officer                four years in.            370 00:15:58,291 --> 00:16:03,004       I remember the assassination               of Edward Byrnes.          371 00:16:03,046 --> 00:16:05,673           It was something                  that changed policing.        372 00:16:05,715 --> 00:16:07,675                                      373 00:16:07,717 --> 00:16:10,053      [Sterling]   If he's sitting            in a patrol car in uniform,     374 00:16:10,095 --> 00:16:12,305      you know, comes up behind him             and boom, boom, boom.        375 00:16:12,347 --> 00:16:13,640          Shoots and kills him.        376 00:16:13,681 --> 00:16:16,226                                      377 00:16:16,267 --> 00:16:20,271         That's the arrogance              that the drug dealers had.      378 00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:23,566                                      379 00:16:23,608 --> 00:16:25,193                [Eddie]                       That one pisses me off.       380 00:16:25,235 --> 00:16:26,528            I don't understand         381 00:16:26,569 --> 00:16:30,365        assassinating a young kid                     like that.             382 00:16:30,406 --> 00:16:31,783           That stuck with me.         383 00:16:31,825 --> 00:16:33,451     That stuck with me, that one.    384 00:16:33,493 --> 00:16:37,622     That was a outright "eff you"          to the police department.      385 00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:39,457           "We don't care."           386 00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:42,460          No father should have                   to bury their son.         387 00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:45,630      [Matthew]   If our son Eddie,             sitting in a police car,      388 00:16:45,672 --> 00:16:49,217        can be wasted by scum,        389 00:16:49,259 --> 00:16:51,553       then none of us are safe.      390 00:16:51,594 --> 00:16:53,388           And I don't care                      where you live.           391 00:16:53,429 --> 00:16:56,182             [Eric]   It was                     an open assassination        392 00:16:56,224 --> 00:17:01,062           of a police officer                      while on duty.           393 00:17:01,104 --> 00:17:03,773       And it concerned me because     394 00:17:03,815 --> 00:17:07,402      it became a personal fight.     395 00:17:07,443 --> 00:17:09,529    These bullets go right through          a police officer's vest.       396 00:17:09,571 --> 00:17:11,990         Makes you think twice                  about everything.          397 00:17:12,031 --> 00:17:13,658               You know,                    doing your job out there.      398 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:15,952           It definitely was                   a personal vendetta         399 00:17:15,994 --> 00:17:19,289            of NYPD against              every drug dealer in the city.    400 00:17:19,330 --> 00:17:20,832        They wanted 'em all done.      401 00:17:20,874 --> 00:17:23,126       They wanted to lock them up,               their mothers up,          402 00:17:23,168 --> 00:17:25,086         their fathers, everybody           they could get their hands on.  403 00:17:25,128 --> 00:17:27,589             downbeat music          404 00:17:27,630 --> 00:17:30,216        [Bill]   We were shocked,                    we were angry.           405 00:17:30,258 --> 00:17:33,344     That anger wasn't going away                     ever.                406 00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:36,764             And we hold,                     to a certain degree,         407 00:17:36,806 --> 00:17:38,850    the people of Jamaica, Queens,             responsible for it.         408 00:17:38,892 --> 00:17:43,188                                      409 00:17:43,229 --> 00:17:46,524          Eddie Byrnes' death                  was a turning point         410 00:17:46,566 --> 00:17:50,862       in the federal attention                     to crack               411 00:17:50,904 --> 00:17:52,739    and to the Black neighborhoods.  412 00:17:52,780 --> 00:17:55,074         [reporter]   Mayor Koch                  spent almost $13,000        413 00:17:55,116 --> 00:17:56,492      of his re-election fund money    414 00:17:56,534 --> 00:17:58,995          to buy a full-page ad                 in   The New York Times        415 00:17:59,037 --> 00:18:01,331          begging people to send            telegrams to President Reagan    416 00:18:01,372 --> 00:18:03,166               urging that                       he cut off U.S. aid         417 00:18:03,208 --> 00:18:05,501      to drug-trafficking countries.  418 00:18:05,543 --> 00:18:07,545           We've got to get              our own country, the president,  419 00:18:07,587 --> 00:18:10,757      to, as commander-in-chief,            to protect us as he would      420 00:18:10,798 --> 00:18:13,051         if the Russians were             coming here with terrorists.     421 00:18:13,092 --> 00:18:15,470                                      422 00:18:15,511 --> 00:18:19,724       So it became a political          football and political benefit.  423 00:18:19,766 --> 00:18:24,479         George Bush seized upon                    Byrnes' death            424 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,148            to grab his shield                and go around campaigning      425 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:29,984                  during                      the presidential campaign.     426 00:18:30,026 --> 00:18:31,819           [President Bush]                 You read about the execution    427 00:18:31,861 --> 00:18:34,239         of Officer Edward Byrne.      428 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,199           You've read about                the drug-related violence      429 00:18:36,241 --> 00:18:37,742        that's turning sections                   of our cities            430 00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:39,202          into combat zones.          431 00:18:39,244 --> 00:18:40,245               [Robert]                     And George Bush was saying,     432 00:18:40,286 --> 00:18:42,413            "We're gonna solve                       the problem.            433 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:44,165          "We're gonna prosecute                    those people.            434 00:18:44,207 --> 00:18:47,418      We're gonna make what used to         be state cases federal cases."  435 00:18:47,460 --> 00:18:49,379           [President Bush]                Here, the rules have changed.    436 00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:52,382          If you sell drugs,                   you will be caught.         437 00:18:52,423 --> 00:18:55,468        And when you're caught,              you will be prosecuted,       438 00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:59,264      and once you're convicted,                you will do time.          439 00:18:59,305 --> 00:19:01,015        Before the Eddie Byrne                      homicide,              440 00:19:01,057 --> 00:19:02,934    there was a very limited number              of, you know,            441 00:19:02,976 --> 00:19:06,312        street narcotics cases                 being made, if any.         442 00:19:06,354 --> 00:19:10,108    And all of a sudden, you know,       that murder woke everybody up.    443 00:19:12,902 --> 00:19:14,862                [Mark]                      'Cause now all of a sudden,     444 00:19:14,904 --> 00:19:18,074              these kids                   had fucked with the power.      445 00:19:18,116 --> 00:19:21,411      And in this particular age,     446 00:19:21,452 --> 00:19:23,705       everyone became a target.      447 00:19:23,746 --> 00:19:27,000         Right here. Take 'em.               Right here, right here.       448 00:19:27,041 --> 00:19:28,876        [reporter]   Police have             turned up the heat full-blast    449 00:19:28,918 --> 00:19:30,795              in the search                      for Byrne's killers,        450 00:19:30,837 --> 00:19:32,922       and there's a $30,000 reward                for information           451 00:19:32,964 --> 00:19:34,632         leading to their arrest                   and conviction.           452 00:19:34,674 --> 00:19:36,759        A special police unit,            the Tactical Narcotics Team,     453 00:19:36,801 --> 00:19:38,344              was created                    to battle drug dealers        454 00:19:38,386 --> 00:19:39,846           after the murder                     of Officer Byrne.          455 00:19:39,887 --> 00:19:41,681              [reporter]                       The police saturation        456 00:19:41,723 --> 00:19:43,975        in the Jamaica Houses last           March was the first example     457 00:19:44,017 --> 00:19:46,978      of the Tactical Narcotics Team             program in action.         458 00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:48,313            In the past year,          459 00:19:48,354 --> 00:19:50,231             there have been                   more than 8,000 arrests       460 00:19:50,273 --> 00:19:52,984       in the $110 million program     461 00:19:53,026 --> 00:19:56,988       that will soon be expanding              to all five boroughs.        462 00:19:57,030 --> 00:19:58,448           The game changed           463 00:19:58,489 --> 00:20:00,783               as far as                    narcotics investigations       464 00:20:00,825 --> 00:20:01,826           in New York City.          465 00:20:01,868 --> 00:20:04,579           They established                     a unit called TNT          466 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:06,914     and they were very aggressive           in trying to, you know,       467 00:20:06,956 --> 00:20:09,459        stop the sale of drugs               in projects, et cetera.       468 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:10,835               [Prince]                     The Tactical Narcotics Squad    469 00:20:10,877 --> 00:20:13,504             swept things up                     and tore things up.         470 00:20:13,546 --> 00:20:16,966        It put so many poor people               of color in prison.         471 00:20:17,008 --> 00:20:18,468        They didn't just devastate                  South Jamaica.           472 00:20:18,509 --> 00:20:22,013       It swept through all states,                   all hoods,             473 00:20:22,055 --> 00:20:23,222                California                     all the way to Chicago.       474 00:20:23,264 --> 00:20:25,475                                      475 00:20:25,516 --> 00:20:26,726           The Senate today           476 00:20:26,768 --> 00:20:28,686         put the deadly force                 of the death penalty         477 00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:30,730         behind this country's                battle against drugs.        478 00:20:30,772 --> 00:20:32,148              [reporter]                     Any drug-connected killing     479 00:20:32,190 --> 00:20:33,566       of a law enforcement officer    480 00:20:33,608 --> 00:20:35,693          or a murder on behalf                 of a drug organization       481 00:20:35,735 --> 00:20:37,487                could lead                      to the death penalty.        482 00:20:37,528 --> 00:20:40,239             dramatic music          483 00:20:40,281 --> 00:20:43,034                                      484 00:20:43,076 --> 00:20:47,163           [Nas]   TNT wanted                    the Supreme Team bad.        485 00:20:47,205 --> 00:20:49,749     [Prince]   Neither Preme nor I     486 00:20:49,791 --> 00:20:53,378         or anybody that was part           of the so-called Supreme Team    487 00:20:53,419 --> 00:20:56,714        approved of killing cops,                    point blank.            488 00:20:56,756 --> 00:20:58,633            It was illogical,                      it was immoral,           489 00:20:58,674 --> 00:21:01,386         it was the dumbest shit                    in the world.            490 00:21:01,427 --> 00:21:03,137               [Supreme]                   That's one of the first rules    491 00:21:03,179 --> 00:21:05,515          of a organized group.        492 00:21:05,556 --> 00:21:07,642             It's, you know,                  you leave the police alone     493 00:21:07,683 --> 00:21:10,478         if you wish to continue                    to make money.           494 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,064            But if you notice,                    I said organized.          495 00:21:13,106 --> 00:21:15,400       Unlike a group of wild dudes               with no objective          496 00:21:15,441 --> 00:21:17,235           or long-term goals.         497 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:19,987          soft dramatic music        498 00:21:20,029 --> 00:21:22,740                                      499 00:21:22,782 --> 00:21:24,492       We're here this afternoon                   to announce             500 00:21:24,534 --> 00:21:27,912    a federal grand jury indicting    501 00:21:27,954 --> 00:21:29,914        a Howard "Pappy" Mason                   for the murder            502 00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:31,749            of police officer                       Edward Byrnes.           503 00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:33,626                                      504 00:21:33,668 --> 00:21:36,754     Pappy Mason was a lieutenant             to "Fat Cat" Nichols.        505 00:21:36,796 --> 00:21:39,799                                      506 00:21:39,841 --> 00:21:41,300              [reporter]                      They call him "Fat Cat."      507 00:21:41,342 --> 00:21:42,760           At the age of 28,          508 00:21:42,802 --> 00:21:44,720            Lorenzo Nichols                controls the major portion      509 00:21:44,762 --> 00:21:47,598          of the $100 million                    crack operation           510 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,268       in South Jamaica, Queens.      511 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:55,022    [Prince]   Preme, Cat, and Corley       were the main dealers, right?    512 00:21:55,064 --> 00:21:56,357         They were the main ones       513 00:21:56,399 --> 00:21:59,444          that mainly stood out                    on 150th Street.          514 00:21:59,485 --> 00:22:02,697         Fat Cat had his own crew           and Supreme had his own crew,    515 00:22:02,738 --> 00:22:04,198          so that's how they got                 to know each other,         516 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,033           Fat Cat and Supreme.        517 00:22:06,075 --> 00:22:08,536      [reporter]   Lorenzo Nichols               is accused of running        518 00:22:08,578 --> 00:22:10,371       the biggest crack operation                    in Queens              519 00:22:10,413 --> 00:22:12,707          and perhaps the city.        520 00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:15,585               [Robert]                     And although he took orders     521 00:22:15,626 --> 00:22:17,962         from Fat Cat for a time,      522 00:22:18,004 --> 00:22:20,631            Pappy had decided                    he was his own boss         523 00:22:20,673 --> 00:22:24,218        and it was he who arranged     524 00:22:24,260 --> 00:22:27,472         for Byrnes' killing.         525 00:22:27,513 --> 00:22:29,140     The sources who are familiar                 with the case            526 00:22:29,182 --> 00:22:31,976           say Mason thought              murdering a New York City cop    527 00:22:32,018 --> 00:22:33,978    would please his friend Nichols  528 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:36,856      because Nichols was angry over        receiving a 25-year sentence    529 00:22:36,898 --> 00:22:39,525          on the weapons charges                  just a day before.         530 00:22:39,567 --> 00:22:40,818             The sources say                       that the murder,          531 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:42,111         in fact, angered Nichols      532 00:22:42,153 --> 00:22:44,155           because he believes                    that was the event         533 00:22:44,197 --> 00:22:45,781            that brought down                      the full weight           534 00:22:45,823 --> 00:22:47,700            of both the state                  and federal governments       535 00:22:47,742 --> 00:22:49,660           on his organization,                      his family,             536 00:22:49,702 --> 00:22:51,204       and ultimately, himself.       537 00:22:51,245 --> 00:22:52,788                                      538 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:54,248               [Prince]                     That changed a lot of lives.    539 00:22:54,290 --> 00:22:56,292           It changed the lives                  of the Byrne family,        540 00:22:56,334 --> 00:22:58,127           it changed the lives                of those in the street,       541 00:22:58,169 --> 00:22:59,795         and it changed my life.       542 00:22:59,837 --> 00:23:02,089                                      543 00:23:02,131 --> 00:23:04,091            After the killing                      of Edward Byrne,          544 00:23:04,133 --> 00:23:07,345           that whole lifestyle                      of hustling,            545 00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:10,473        definitely selling drugs,             was completely obliterated     546 00:23:10,515 --> 00:23:11,599              if you ask me.           547 00:23:11,641 --> 00:23:13,351      I'm not saying it didn't stop,  548 00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:15,978             I'm saying that                 it stopped for 150th Street.    549 00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:18,439                                      550 00:23:18,481 --> 00:23:20,691         [Supreme]   But as far                      as Ed Byrnes,            551 00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:23,110      I thought that was a tragedy.    552 00:23:23,152 --> 00:23:26,364          I would never condone                such a detrimental act.       553 00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:28,533                                      554 00:23:28,574 --> 00:23:31,869         That was a big disaster                     right there.            555 00:23:31,911 --> 00:23:34,997           'Cause it fucked up                    everybody's money.         556 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:36,707         Once they started moving                     everybody,             557 00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:38,209            that's when things                       just started            558 00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:41,879      going in different directions              all over the place.         559 00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:45,591         It fucked up everything.      560 00:23:45,633 --> 00:23:49,220     At that point, you knew that          a major shift was happening     561 00:23:49,262 --> 00:23:51,055       and everything was gonna                   be shut down.            562 00:23:51,097 --> 00:23:52,723                                      563 00:23:52,765 --> 00:23:53,975       It would never be the same.     564 00:23:54,016 --> 00:23:56,269                                      565 00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:58,229              upbeat music           566 00:23:58,271 --> 00:23:59,564             There it is!             567 00:23:59,605 --> 00:24:01,649        The New Year's Eve Ball                 in Times Square,           568 00:24:01,691 --> 00:24:03,818            the Big Apple,                     New York City, USA.         569 00:24:03,859 --> 00:24:05,278             We are live!             570 00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:06,362          [party horn toots]          571 00:24:06,404 --> 00:24:09,156          [person]   Two, one!          572 00:24:09,198 --> 00:24:11,200        Happy New Year, everybody!     573 00:24:11,242 --> 00:24:14,078             Meli'sa Morgan's               "Fool's Paradise" playing      574 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:17,540                                      575 00:24:17,582 --> 00:24:19,083              [reporter]                     Nelson Mandela walked out      576 00:24:19,125 --> 00:24:22,086      of Victor Verster Prison today           like a chief of state.       577 00:24:22,128 --> 00:24:23,713      [kid]   Now that I've gotten                  on the internet,          578 00:24:23,754 --> 00:24:26,924     I'd rather be on my computer        than doing just about anything.  579 00:24:26,966 --> 00:24:29,093           [announcer] Cats                at the Winter Garden Theatre!    580 00:24:29,135 --> 00:24:32,513                                      581 00:24:32,555 --> 00:24:36,017        I'm taking out this time     582 00:24:36,058 --> 00:24:39,604       I know that all Americans                 took great joy            583 00:24:39,645 --> 00:24:41,105            in the liberation                      of Kuwait City.           584 00:24:41,147 --> 00:24:42,607               [gunfire]              585 00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:45,109     I experimented with marijuana                a time or two            586 00:24:45,151 --> 00:24:46,444         and I didn't like it.        587 00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:49,614          This was a managed              and controlled use of force.     588 00:24:49,655 --> 00:24:51,073           [sirens wailing]           589 00:24:51,115 --> 00:24:52,908     [reporter]   Fires are burning                  in both towers           590 00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:54,869        of the World Trade Center.     591 00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:57,038    [reporter]   The City of New York               at this point            592 00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:59,373            could be compared                      to the   Titanic,           593 00:24:59,415 --> 00:25:01,751      and the customers of this city  594 00:25:01,792 --> 00:25:05,838            are seeking a man                of his talent and direction.    595 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,341         And that is why we're              supporting Rudy Giuliani.      596 00:25:08,382 --> 00:25:10,176              -Thank you.                          -[applause]             597 00:25:10,217 --> 00:25:13,220           The Giuliani era,                  it's interesting when        598 00:25:13,262 --> 00:25:14,972     you talk to white New Yorkers           and Black New Yorkers,        599 00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:16,474          how we remember it                     so differently.           600 00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:17,808      -How are you? Good morning.         -[reporter] Good to see you.     601 00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:19,435             Good morning.                Feels terrific this morning.     602 00:25:19,477 --> 00:25:21,562      [Joy]   You know, I think for           a lot of white New Yorkers,     603 00:25:21,604 --> 00:25:23,064      they remember it as, you know,  604 00:25:23,105 --> 00:25:24,398            when Times Square               turned into Disneyland, right?  605 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,900        Because he basically sold                all of Times Square         606 00:25:25,941 --> 00:25:27,401           to big corporations                and made it really pretty.     607 00:25:27,443 --> 00:25:30,905      And for Black New Yorkers,            it was a terrifying time.      608 00:25:30,946 --> 00:25:35,910            Fool's paradise          609 00:25:35,951 --> 00:25:37,912         You better think twice      610 00:25:37,953 --> 00:25:40,289       'Cause it's not very nice     611 00:25:40,331 --> 00:25:41,957                  Ooh                612 00:25:41,999 --> 00:25:43,918      [Nas]   I remember growing up               and all on the news,        613 00:25:43,959 --> 00:25:47,505           we were criminalized               and demonized all the time     614 00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:49,131          to create this fear         615 00:25:49,173 --> 00:25:51,133        that Black people were           the only criminals in America.    616 00:25:51,175 --> 00:25:53,260                                      617 00:25:53,302 --> 00:25:55,221      [Eric]   We still had pockets                 of communities,           618 00:25:55,262 --> 00:25:57,723           the Brownsvilles,                   these 40 Projects,          619 00:25:57,765 --> 00:25:59,266          these South Bronx.          620 00:25:59,308 --> 00:26:02,228     We had pockets of communities            that were left behind        621 00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:03,229          during those '90s.          622 00:26:04,855 --> 00:26:06,399            What we didn't do          623 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,111       as we allowed the popularity             of our New York brand        624 00:26:10,152 --> 00:26:13,989         to continue to grow,                   we did not ensure          625 00:26:14,031 --> 00:26:17,201        that popularity turned            into prosperity for everyone.    626 00:26:19,203 --> 00:26:20,996             Urban renewal                     was Negro removal.          627 00:26:21,038 --> 00:26:22,164                 Why?                 628 00:26:22,206 --> 00:26:24,750       Because in large cities,       629 00:26:24,792 --> 00:26:28,045              the people                    who government displaced,      630 00:26:28,087 --> 00:26:31,382       buying out their buildings,               forcing people out,         631 00:26:31,424 --> 00:26:34,885               were largely                     communities of color.        632 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,221         It destroyed communities             instead of building them.      633 00:26:40,057 --> 00:26:42,560        The official narrative is      634 00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:45,396         that all of the problems                with public housing         635 00:26:45,438 --> 00:26:50,234        have to do with criminals,     636 00:26:50,276 --> 00:26:53,821         and the solution is,                  for them, policing.         637 00:26:53,863 --> 00:26:56,490         [cheers and applause]        638 00:26:56,532 --> 00:27:00,619     [Rudy]   I have seen our people              in every community.         639 00:27:00,661 --> 00:27:03,372          They're all saying                     the same thing.           640 00:27:03,414 --> 00:27:06,250     "Please help us reduce crime.    641 00:27:06,292 --> 00:27:09,420               "Please.               642 00:27:09,462 --> 00:27:11,297           "Please help us.           643 00:27:11,338 --> 00:27:14,258        "Please help us reduce                the scourge of drugs         644 00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:16,635        that is destroying us."       645 00:27:16,677 --> 00:27:19,930      [Tom]   When our dear friend            Rudy Giuliani became mayor,     646 00:27:19,972 --> 00:27:22,391       this is what he tried to do,    647 00:27:22,433 --> 00:27:27,146     and the system was not geared              to public safety.          648 00:27:27,188 --> 00:27:31,817         It was really geared                to maintaining control        649 00:27:31,859 --> 00:27:35,446     by almost an occupying force.    650 00:27:35,488 --> 00:27:37,031                                      651 00:27:37,072 --> 00:27:38,407           There's a war goin'                      on outside             652 00:27:38,449 --> 00:27:39,784          No man is safe from        653 00:27:39,825 --> 00:27:41,869               You can run,                 but you can't hide forever     654 00:27:41,911 --> 00:27:44,371            From these streets                  that we done took          655 00:27:44,413 --> 00:27:46,582          You walking with your             head down, scared to look      656 00:27:46,624 --> 00:27:48,292               You shook             657 00:27:48,334 --> 00:27:49,585       'Cause ain't no such things              as halfway crooks          658 00:27:49,627 --> 00:27:51,420             [Eddie]   Well,                   there was a big difference     659 00:27:51,462 --> 00:27:55,758      just when Dinkins left office            and Giuliani took over.       660 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,928     I'm gonna be honest with you.        We were able to do our jobs.     661 00:27:58,969 --> 00:28:01,806            Under Giuliani,              the police department was back.  662 00:28:01,847 --> 00:28:04,850       It was a whole new ballgame.    663 00:28:04,892 --> 00:28:06,727     [Bill]   He trusted two people                   at the time,            664 00:28:06,769 --> 00:28:09,563          which was Bill Bratton              as his police commissioner     665 00:28:09,605 --> 00:28:13,108       and Jack Maple as his deputy          commissioner of operations.     666 00:28:13,150 --> 00:28:16,403         And the two of them had              devised a management plan      667 00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:20,574       that would hold precinct              commanders accountable.       668 00:28:20,616 --> 00:28:23,285       They expected the police               to go out and engage.        669 00:28:23,327 --> 00:28:24,870    [Derrick]   Giuliani said, "Look,  670 00:28:24,912 --> 00:28:26,163               "we have the                     broken windows policy        671 00:28:26,205 --> 00:28:27,748           "where it's we leave                   the windows broken         672 00:28:27,790 --> 00:28:30,125        and nobody's fixing them,           so now we're gonna fix them."    673 00:28:30,167 --> 00:28:32,253            So they went after                    the squeegee guys,         674 00:28:32,294 --> 00:28:33,671            the graffiti guys.         675 00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:36,674      The low-level crimes would           lead you to bigger crimes,      676 00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:38,050           and it did work.           677 00:28:38,092 --> 00:28:41,303        However, the public saw it                   as a problem            678 00:28:41,345 --> 00:28:43,347        'cause the stop-and-frisk                    part of it,             679 00:28:43,389 --> 00:28:45,516           it would stop many,                  you know, minorities.        680 00:28:45,558 --> 00:28:47,017                [Bill]                             And it worked.           681 00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:49,854         I mean, it cleaned up              the streets of New York.       682 00:28:49,895 --> 00:28:51,146       It took about five years       683 00:28:51,188 --> 00:28:53,941           and New York City                 was a different place.        684 00:28:53,983 --> 00:28:56,735      [Supreme]   The local police,                 the detectives,           685 00:28:56,777 --> 00:28:58,737           they held a grudge.         686 00:28:58,779 --> 00:29:00,072              When they lose                      one of their owns,         687 00:29:00,114 --> 00:29:02,491          they fault everybody,        688 00:29:02,533 --> 00:29:04,577        whether you had something               to do with it or not.        689 00:29:04,618 --> 00:29:06,912      [indistinct radio chatter]      690 00:29:06,954 --> 00:29:08,289           In New York City,          691 00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:10,165         officials have taken                a big bite out of crime       692 00:29:10,207 --> 00:29:11,542     and the mayor is now claiming    693 00:29:11,584 --> 00:29:15,087           that New York is              the safest big city in America.  694 00:29:15,129 --> 00:29:17,882       The New York City Police              Department, last year,        695 00:29:17,923 --> 00:29:21,427      did, I think, the best job         it's ever done in his history.    696 00:29:21,468 --> 00:29:23,512      [Joy]   I never really feared               Black people, right?        697 00:29:23,554 --> 00:29:25,556        I knew where to avoid,               I knew where not to go.       698 00:29:25,598 --> 00:29:28,726    You couldn't avoid the police.    699 00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:30,436          They were everywhere.        700 00:29:30,477 --> 00:29:31,687          They were pulling over              the gypsy cab you were in.     701 00:29:31,729 --> 00:29:33,188            [siren bleeps]            702 00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:36,734          Amadou Diallo was shot               like 41-something times.      703 00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:39,987        His mother, Kadiatou, was,            like begging for justice,      704 00:29:40,029 --> 00:29:40,946          and nothing happened.        705 00:29:40,988 --> 00:29:42,448         We are here for this         706 00:29:42,489 --> 00:29:45,034      and we will come back again            until justice is done!        707 00:29:45,075 --> 00:29:46,827                 [Joy]                        Abner Louima is the one       708 00:29:46,869 --> 00:29:49,079           who gets dragged in                      to the police            709 00:29:49,121 --> 00:29:51,957              and, you know,                  sodomized and brutalized.      710 00:29:56,045 --> 00:29:57,880                 [Joy]                       And Giuliani does nothing.     711 00:29:57,922 --> 00:30:00,090        He goes right to the cops,             he sides with the cops.       712 00:30:00,132 --> 00:30:02,760      It's basically a free-for-all.  713 00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:05,554        [overlapping shouting]        714 00:30:05,596 --> 00:30:07,097         Police could do whatever                     they want              715 00:30:07,139 --> 00:30:08,766      in New York City in that era.    716 00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:09,934      [officer] Hands behind you.     717 00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:12,853          [Prince]   You know,                   I wanted to make sure        718 00:30:12,895 --> 00:30:15,356             that my stepson                       and my daughter           719 00:30:15,397 --> 00:30:18,275      wouldn't be around the ghetto          environment of drug-selling     720 00:30:18,317 --> 00:30:21,111        and watching those things               that I saw coming up,        721 00:30:21,153 --> 00:30:22,947             'cause it wasn't                    inside my household         722 00:30:22,988 --> 00:30:24,907           that made me revert                     to the streets,           723 00:30:24,949 --> 00:30:26,617        it was the streets itself      724 00:30:26,659 --> 00:30:29,078        that was always constantly                   in my face.             725 00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:33,040           [birds chirping]           726 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,628         [Tuff]   This was home.        727 00:30:37,670 --> 00:30:39,338        Lot of memories right now.     728 00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:41,548        You know, my mind is going            a lot of different places.     729 00:30:43,634 --> 00:30:47,137         We just lived really out            of the way, under the radar,    730 00:30:47,179 --> 00:30:50,391          and, you know, nobody                could find us back here.      731 00:30:53,310 --> 00:30:56,271    He made this for us to live in,  732 00:30:56,313 --> 00:30:59,149        to have and to be safe.       733 00:30:59,191 --> 00:31:01,610      That's what he did for us,                    for this.              734 00:31:01,652 --> 00:31:04,989    And we went through everything         over there, the Southside,      735 00:31:05,030 --> 00:31:08,909      and this is where we landed          and this is where it ended.     736 00:31:08,951 --> 00:31:10,035              Right here.             737 00:31:13,163 --> 00:31:15,082               [Suzette]                    It was a mixed neighborhood.    738 00:31:15,124 --> 00:31:16,625         Kids could play outside.      739 00:31:16,667 --> 00:31:18,335         You don't have to worry                      about it.              740 00:31:18,377 --> 00:31:21,672              Pretty quiet.                      Everybody got along.        741 00:31:21,714 --> 00:31:23,799        It's a good neighborhood.      742 00:31:23,841 --> 00:31:26,927     Until one day, it was chaos.     743 00:31:26,969 --> 00:31:28,721             dramatic music          744 00:31:28,762 --> 00:31:30,639                                      745 00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:33,642      Me and Prince was knocked out,            sleeping in the bed.        746 00:31:33,684 --> 00:31:35,019             [loud crash]             747 00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:36,895        Like, 5:00 in the morning                     they came,             748 00:31:36,937 --> 00:31:38,147           kicking the door in.        749 00:31:38,188 --> 00:31:41,483       [screaming and crashing]       750 00:31:42,109 --> 00:31:44,862    He literally took me and, like,          put me behind a door.        751 00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:47,322      Like, "Stay down," because           we didn't know what it was.     752 00:31:47,364 --> 00:31:48,907        [police radio chatter]        753 00:31:48,949 --> 00:31:51,035        I literally thought it was            somebody coming to kill us     754 00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:52,494           until they announced                      themselves.             755 00:31:52,536 --> 00:31:53,704            [officer on PA]                     This is the police!         756 00:31:53,746 --> 00:31:57,207                                      757 00:31:57,249 --> 00:31:59,126               [Prince]                     Before they came, actually,     758 00:31:59,168 --> 00:32:03,714       around 3:23 in the morning,           [bleep] called the house...     759 00:32:03,756 --> 00:32:06,216            [phone ringing]           760 00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:07,676       He asked, "Is Prince there?"    761 00:32:07,718 --> 00:32:09,845                She said,                      "Yeah, Prince is there.       762 00:32:09,887 --> 00:32:10,971       You want me to wake him up?"    763 00:32:11,013 --> 00:32:12,389                 He said,                      "No, don't wake him up.       764 00:32:12,431 --> 00:32:14,016           "Just open the door,                keep the door unlocked.       765 00:32:14,058 --> 00:32:15,726          -I'm on my way home."                     -[pounding]             766 00:32:15,768 --> 00:32:16,977        And when the police came,      767 00:32:17,019 --> 00:32:19,063        they walked right through                  the front door.           768 00:32:19,104 --> 00:32:20,397               [officer]                        You're under arrest!        769 00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:24,234                                      770 00:32:24,276 --> 00:32:25,319               [Suzette]                       We didn't even notice        771 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,528       that they were in the house     772 00:32:26,570 --> 00:32:29,406           until they pushed                   our room door open.         773 00:32:29,448 --> 00:32:32,409       And then Prince was so--            I think I had on a t-shirt      774 00:32:32,451 --> 00:32:35,370         and we were sleeping             and Prince was fussing like,     775 00:32:35,412 --> 00:32:37,956      "Let her put her pants on."          That's all he cared about.      776 00:32:37,998 --> 00:32:41,085           [sirens wailing]           777 00:32:41,126 --> 00:32:43,087                [Tuff]                         I was butt-ass naked.        778 00:32:43,128 --> 00:32:44,463           I don't even know                   what they grabbed.          779 00:32:44,505 --> 00:32:46,131         My skin? I don't know            how the fuck they got me up.     780 00:32:46,173 --> 00:32:48,592     Oh, that big-ass motherfucker                 tossed me.              781 00:32:48,634 --> 00:32:52,596       And he just commenced to,           you know, whipping my ass.      782 00:32:52,638 --> 00:32:55,599         He started asking me                   about some money.          783 00:32:55,641 --> 00:32:57,267           "Where the money?                    Where's the guns?          784 00:32:57,309 --> 00:32:58,727          Where's the drugs?"         785 00:32:58,769 --> 00:32:59,937         And I'm like, "Dude,              we don't do that in here."      786 00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:03,440                                      787 00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:04,399               [Suzette]                     They stayed in the house,      788 00:33:04,441 --> 00:33:06,026       putting holes in our walls.     789 00:33:06,068 --> 00:33:08,612           So they--literally,              we had big holes in the walls.  790 00:33:08,654 --> 00:33:11,240           They was just, like,                 busting the walls out.       791 00:33:11,281 --> 00:33:13,575        Put our minks in the water                 in the bathtub.           792 00:33:13,617 --> 00:33:17,287                                      793 00:33:17,329 --> 00:33:18,956     We was all kind of face-down                 on the floor             794 00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:19,706     in the living room for hours.    795 00:33:19,748 --> 00:33:23,377                                      796 00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:24,795             [Tuff]   We in                     that goddamn living room      797 00:33:24,837 --> 00:33:26,463       on that pastel pink carpet.     798 00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:30,259         He over here handcuffed,             I'm over here handcuffed.      799 00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:34,221     And we just eye-communicated.    800 00:33:34,263 --> 00:33:37,432         And I nodded my head.              I know what we're doing.       801 00:33:37,474 --> 00:33:40,769      And he was just making sure           that I was still in tune.      802 00:33:40,811 --> 00:33:43,522            soft tense music         803 00:33:43,564 --> 00:33:48,652                                      804 00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:51,822     [Suzette]   I think they kinda          got upset after a little while  805 00:33:51,864 --> 00:33:52,823         'cause they was like,        806 00:33:52,865 --> 00:33:54,241     "Okay, what are y'all hiding                   in here?"              807 00:33:54,283 --> 00:33:56,702        And I'm like, "Search.                There's nothing here.        808 00:33:56,743 --> 00:33:57,578          This is our home."          809 00:33:57,619 --> 00:33:58,954    And Prince literally said that.  810 00:33:58,996 --> 00:34:01,832        Like, "This is my home.              There's nothing here."        811 00:34:01,874 --> 00:34:03,709    But they stayed for literally--  812 00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:06,503         I'm gonna say, like,               maybe five or six hours?       813 00:34:06,545 --> 00:34:08,297    And then they finally took him.  814 00:34:08,338 --> 00:34:10,883                                      815 00:34:10,924 --> 00:34:12,718         We was, like, in tears.       816 00:34:12,759 --> 00:34:16,263        And he kept reassuring us,              "I'm okay, I'm okay."        817 00:34:16,305 --> 00:34:17,306           Handcuffed while                     he's walking out,          818 00:34:17,347 --> 00:34:18,807              he's like,                    "Don't worry. I'm okay,"       819 00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:20,350        trying to calm us down.       820 00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:22,603      And we just kind of watched              them take him away,         821 00:34:22,644 --> 00:34:24,188          put him in the car,                and they took him away        822 00:34:24,229 --> 00:34:25,939       and he kept looking back                   just saying,             823 00:34:25,981 --> 00:34:27,024        "It's okay. I'm okay."        824 00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:31,153                                      825 00:34:31,195 --> 00:34:33,739               So that day                      was pretty memorable.        826 00:34:37,743 --> 00:34:38,744                Crazy.                827 00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:44,333           [Prince]   Oh, man.                   Let me tell you, man.        828 00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:46,001                 It was--                      looking back at everyone      829 00:34:46,043 --> 00:34:49,713        cuffed behind their backs           like that broke my heart, man.  830 00:34:49,755 --> 00:34:51,423         It was the worst feeling                    I had, man.             831 00:34:51,465 --> 00:34:53,967         They was taking me out.                   Man, I was hurt.          832 00:34:54,009 --> 00:34:56,220            Nah, I wasn't even                  thinking about myself.       833 00:34:56,261 --> 00:34:57,971        I was thinking about them,                       man.                834 00:34:58,013 --> 00:34:59,097        You know, I didn't realize     835 00:34:59,139 --> 00:35:00,349             that that would                       be the last day           836 00:35:00,390 --> 00:35:02,976          that I would actually                     be a free man.           837 00:35:03,018 --> 00:35:04,394      [indistinct radio chatter]      838 00:35:04,436 --> 00:35:06,772          That was the worst day                   of my life, man.          839 00:35:06,813 --> 00:35:08,690            [phone beeping]           840 00:35:10,025 --> 00:35:12,152         [Nas]   Prince had been                in and out of the system      841 00:35:12,194 --> 00:35:14,613                for years,                     but always made it out.       842 00:35:14,655 --> 00:35:18,158           Why would this time                      be different?            843 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,410      He knew what he needed to do.    844 00:35:23,872 --> 00:35:25,916     [Joyce]   My first introduction              to the Supreme Team         845 00:35:25,958 --> 00:35:29,169        was through Gerald Miller,             who is known as Prince.       846 00:35:29,211 --> 00:35:30,545         And he was considered        847 00:35:30,587 --> 00:35:33,757     the head of the Supreme Team                at that point.            848 00:35:33,799 --> 00:35:36,218               [Prince]                     Ms. London tore the case up.    849 00:35:36,260 --> 00:35:37,761      So she helped prepare the case  850 00:35:37,803 --> 00:35:39,388             before it end up                      going to trial,           851 00:35:39,429 --> 00:35:41,765      and she did a good job of it.    852 00:35:41,807 --> 00:35:43,934          I go to see Gerald.         853 00:35:43,976 --> 00:35:48,272            He seemed fine                  with my representing him.      854 00:35:48,313 --> 00:35:52,067      Whether it was the best of         a bad deal or whatever it was,    855 00:35:52,109 --> 00:35:53,527     but he and I got along well,     856 00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:56,405              and he felt                    we could work together.       857 00:35:57,572 --> 00:36:00,450          soft dramatic music        858 00:36:00,492 --> 00:36:04,246                                      859 00:36:04,288 --> 00:36:06,456    [Prince]   There's so many things         I wanted to be growing up.     860 00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:08,208            And I wasn't stuck                    on just one thing.         861 00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:10,377      I wanted to be several things,           you know what I mean?        862 00:36:10,419 --> 00:36:11,878           I definitely wanted                     to be a lawyer,           863 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,131            and that's because                  I watched   Perry Mason.       864 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,717        I watched that joint 24/7.     865 00:36:16,758 --> 00:36:18,969             And I loved it.                    I just loved it, man.        866 00:36:19,011 --> 00:36:20,012            I don't know what.         867 00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:21,430       It just clicked in my head,     868 00:36:21,471 --> 00:36:23,682               and I said,                  "Man, I want to be a lawyer."    869 00:36:23,724 --> 00:36:26,768                                      870 00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:30,647       [Joyce]   For Judge Dearie,            he was a former prosecutor.     871 00:36:30,689 --> 00:36:33,942      I would say that this case              was troubling to him.        872 00:36:33,984 --> 00:36:36,236        I think he always felt                    that it was--            873 00:36:36,278 --> 00:36:40,991    there was a push-pull situation         where he was determined       874 00:36:41,033 --> 00:36:43,493      that Gerald would not exert                  any control             875 00:36:43,535 --> 00:36:45,829      over the trial or the case.     876 00:36:45,871 --> 00:36:47,956              He wanted him                   to sit quiet at the table      877 00:36:47,998 --> 00:36:48,957          and not say anything.        878 00:36:48,999 --> 00:36:52,627          That's not Gerald's MO                       in life.              879 00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:54,671        It was a great experience                    as a lawyer.            880 00:36:54,713 --> 00:36:57,758          Gerald knew every fact                   about his case.           881 00:36:57,799 --> 00:37:00,427          He knew the discovery                      inside-out.             882 00:37:00,469 --> 00:37:04,848      That was tremendously helpful.        It became crucial later on.     883 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:07,142        [Prince]   What happened                 was after that arrest,       884 00:37:07,184 --> 00:37:08,477             I get locked up,                      we go to court,           885 00:37:08,518 --> 00:37:10,645               and we start                       getting documents.         886 00:37:10,687 --> 00:37:12,481            And the documents,                   we get the wiretaps.        887 00:37:12,522 --> 00:37:15,734           Turned out my phone                     was wiretapped.           888 00:37:15,776 --> 00:37:18,945          He understood that              with the wiretaps coming in,     889 00:37:18,987 --> 00:37:21,782        the chances of getting            convicted on the drug charges    890 00:37:21,823 --> 00:37:23,367           were pretty high.          891 00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:25,952    I mean, he had heard the tapes,      he had read the transcripts.     892 00:37:25,994 --> 00:37:28,538              He was charged                      with four murders          893 00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:31,208         in aid of racketeering,              and we both believed that      894 00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:34,419      if he could not get acquitted               on those murders,          895 00:37:34,461 --> 00:37:36,546              he would face                      a life imprisonment,        896 00:37:36,588 --> 00:37:40,300         so his recommendation                     was always,             897 00:37:40,342 --> 00:37:42,886         "Do whatever you can.        898 00:37:42,928 --> 00:37:45,472            Focus on that.                  We have to work on that."      899 00:37:45,514 --> 00:37:46,848               And we did.             900 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:51,311                                      901 00:37:51,353 --> 00:37:53,480       The circumstances around it     902 00:37:53,522 --> 00:37:56,775        were that four Colombians      903 00:37:56,817 --> 00:37:59,569            were going to come                 to the projects involved      904 00:37:59,611 --> 00:38:02,989        and deliver a fairly large                amount of cocaine.         905 00:38:03,031 --> 00:38:06,076       And the government's theory               of the case was that        906 00:38:06,118 --> 00:38:08,787          they never walked out                  of the place alive.         907 00:38:08,829 --> 00:38:11,623      They took the drugs and didn't           want to pay for them.        908 00:38:11,665 --> 00:38:13,208        It wasn't their theory                     of the case             909 00:38:13,250 --> 00:38:14,626         that Gerald committed                    the murders,             910 00:38:14,668 --> 00:38:16,002        but it was their theory                    of the case             911 00:38:16,044 --> 00:38:17,754         that he ordered them.        912 00:38:17,796 --> 00:38:20,382     And we got old court records            that showed Gerald was        913 00:38:20,424 --> 00:38:22,884         in court on that day,                   in state court,           914 00:38:22,926 --> 00:38:25,429        and I remember arguing                    to the jury,             915 00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:28,265            "They're saying                that he called up and said,     916 00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:29,141       'Knock off these guys'?"       917 00:38:29,182 --> 00:38:31,893                                      918 00:38:31,935 --> 00:38:33,603                The jury--                  "Can you imagine him right now  919 00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:35,439               "walking up                      to the judge's phone,        920 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,232              picking it up,                    and giving an order?"        921 00:38:37,274 --> 00:38:38,608               Picture it.             922 00:38:38,650 --> 00:38:39,818              And the judge                       is sitting there?          923 00:38:39,860 --> 00:38:41,403                You know,                     "Knock off these four guys     924 00:38:41,445 --> 00:38:43,113           and keep the drugs"?        925 00:38:43,155 --> 00:38:45,699    [Prince]   It was not a hard case                  to beat,              926 00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:47,200          because the only thing                     that tied me            927 00:38:47,242 --> 00:38:50,912            was his testimony                    about a phone call.         928 00:38:50,954 --> 00:38:54,040          It turned out that the             wiretaps were illegally got,    929 00:38:54,082 --> 00:38:56,501        so Judge starts thinking,           looked at everything and said,  930 00:38:56,543 --> 00:38:58,003                "Hey, man.                    I'ma suppress these taps.      931 00:38:58,044 --> 00:38:59,629        It's illegal. Y'all didn't             have to use these taps."      932 00:38:59,671 --> 00:39:02,340    And I will say, to our credit,    933 00:39:02,382 --> 00:39:06,303           he was acquitted                  on the murder charges.        934 00:39:07,637 --> 00:39:09,264      [Nas]   Ever since Ed Byrnes,     935 00:39:09,306 --> 00:39:13,059        the cops had been looking            for a way to lock Prince up.    936 00:39:13,101 --> 00:39:16,521      When he straight-up beat their       fake murder charges in court,    937 00:39:16,563 --> 00:39:20,108              it only added                     to the man's mystique.       938 00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:23,153    He was saying they was calling         John Gotti the Telfon Don.      939 00:39:23,195 --> 00:39:26,990     In my opinion, Gerald Miller              is the Teflon Don.          940 00:39:28,658 --> 00:39:32,120         The Black Teflon Don.        941 00:39:32,162 --> 00:39:33,914           rhythmic thrumming        942 00:39:33,955 --> 00:39:35,707                                      943 00:39:35,749 --> 00:39:37,083           [Shannon]   It was                     a state case first.         944 00:39:37,125 --> 00:39:39,669          Everything was state.        945 00:39:39,711 --> 00:39:41,713           Prince went to trial                    for the murders,          946 00:39:41,755 --> 00:39:43,423           the four murders...         947 00:39:43,465 --> 00:39:45,258             and he beat it.           948 00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:50,013        Once he beat it, then the           state pressured the government  949 00:39:50,055 --> 00:39:52,182                to come                      and take the case over.       950 00:39:52,224 --> 00:39:53,934     They-they had nothing for us,    951 00:39:53,975 --> 00:39:56,311            and so they had                to holler at the big boys.      952 00:39:56,353 --> 00:39:58,104     You know who the big boys is.    953 00:39:58,146 --> 00:40:00,857                                      954 00:40:00,899 --> 00:40:02,651               [Prince]                     But what they did was then,     955 00:40:02,692 --> 00:40:04,528         they shot the case over                     to the feds.            956 00:40:04,569 --> 00:40:07,697         Took the same wiretaps,             used them in federal court,     957 00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:09,449         and filed different name                    of charges,             958 00:40:09,491 --> 00:40:12,327       but using the same evidence.    959 00:40:12,369 --> 00:40:14,287            I didn't know that                  they can even do that,       960 00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:15,539          know what I'm saying?        961 00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:16,540           I thought not guilty                    was not guilty,           962 00:40:16,581 --> 00:40:17,707        you know what I'm saying?      963 00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:20,001             But it's called                      dual sovereignty.          964 00:40:20,043 --> 00:40:22,629          They let their illegal            wiretaps in because they said,  965 00:40:22,671 --> 00:40:24,714            "This is the feds.                  This ain't the state."       966 00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:25,882          Know what I'm saying?        967 00:40:25,924 --> 00:40:27,050         They had different laws,                     they said.             968 00:40:27,092 --> 00:40:28,176             They let 'em in.          969 00:40:30,762 --> 00:40:31,846           When that happened,                       I was like--            970 00:40:31,888 --> 00:40:33,515                 I said,                       "I can't believe this."       971 00:40:36,476 --> 00:40:39,020         98% conviction rate.         972 00:40:39,062 --> 00:40:41,106      There's not so many people                that go to trial           973 00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:43,733      that they be so scared just          to face what they be facing     974 00:40:43,775 --> 00:40:45,402            in the federal                  as opposed to the state.       975 00:40:45,443 --> 00:40:47,237     It's just totally different.     976 00:40:47,279 --> 00:40:50,574         The mandatory minimum              is ten years in the feds.      977 00:40:50,615 --> 00:40:51,908           You're down ten.           978 00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:56,079        What's fair about that?       979 00:40:57,122 --> 00:41:00,500              We knew it.                    We was prepared for it.       980 00:41:00,542 --> 00:41:01,710     That's why we went to trial.     981 00:41:01,751 --> 00:41:04,921           suspenseful music         982 00:41:04,963 --> 00:41:07,382       [Nas]   The feds knew that             locking up Preme in the '80s    983 00:41:07,424 --> 00:41:10,218      didn't stop the Supreme Team.    984 00:41:10,260 --> 00:41:12,053          This time, they wanted                  to finish the job          985 00:41:12,095 --> 00:41:14,598           by locking up Prince                   and his associates         986 00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:16,933               all at once.            987 00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:20,186                [Bing]                       It was Prince, C-Justice,      988 00:41:20,228 --> 00:41:24,524           C, Pookie, Shannon,                       me, Tucker,             989 00:41:24,566 --> 00:41:25,942               Teddy, Ace.             990 00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:29,738                We was all                     on the same indictment.       991 00:41:29,779 --> 00:41:31,948              We all charged                   with RICO racketeering.       992 00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:34,451       So those are called acts           which you do inside the RICO,    993 00:41:34,492 --> 00:41:36,244     certain acts you get charged                     with.                994 00:41:36,286 --> 00:41:38,455                                      995 00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:40,332     [Derrick]   RICO's really what             they like to get you on,      996 00:41:40,373 --> 00:41:41,833            'cause that's the          997 00:41:41,875 --> 00:41:44,002         Racketeering Influenced                Corrupt Organization.        998 00:41:44,044 --> 00:41:45,962      And once they get you on that,  999 00:41:46,004 --> 00:41:47,297              now, they can                      put pieces together         1000 00:41:47,339 --> 00:41:49,466       and identify you as a gang,                 an organization.          1001 00:41:49,507 --> 00:41:52,010     And what happens is that when          you have an organization       1002 00:41:52,052 --> 00:41:56,139       that commits violent acts             by killing competitors,       1003 00:41:56,181 --> 00:41:59,976           by shooting rivals,                  by distributing drugs,       1004 00:42:00,018 --> 00:42:02,979        by intimidation and fear,      1005 00:42:03,021 --> 00:42:05,982        now you have a case that's          a recipe for the feds to say,    1006 00:42:06,024 --> 00:42:08,151     "Now we have a big case here     1007 00:42:08,193 --> 00:42:10,654     that we can take out several         people in this organization."    1008 00:42:10,695 --> 00:42:11,905        And all you have to do                  is identify them.          1009 00:42:11,946 --> 00:42:14,157           You identify who                   the lieutenants are,         1010 00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:16,076         who the workers are,                  who the bosses are,         1011 00:42:16,117 --> 00:42:18,328         and you take them out                     one by one.             1012 00:42:18,370 --> 00:42:19,913              [reporter]                   Prosecutors refuse to comment    1013 00:42:19,954 --> 00:42:21,748       about a possible indictment,    1014 00:42:21,790 --> 00:42:23,333      but it is clear under RICO,     1015 00:42:23,375 --> 00:42:26,336     authorities have a new weapon           they are willing to use       1016 00:42:26,378 --> 00:42:27,796      to try and nail defendants      1017 00:42:27,837 --> 00:42:30,256      local prosecutors have been               unable to touch.           1018 00:42:30,298 --> 00:42:32,342                                      1019 00:42:32,384 --> 00:42:33,677     [Supreme]   And then everybody                  got tied to--            1020 00:42:33,718 --> 00:42:35,011          everybody got smeared                       with this.             1021 00:42:35,053 --> 00:42:36,680                And, like,                    that's what the police do.     1022 00:42:36,721 --> 00:42:39,224           They like to attach              as many bad things as possible  1023 00:42:39,265 --> 00:42:41,893           to your name just so                that they can vilify you      1024 00:42:41,935 --> 00:42:44,646         and demonize you so that              they can get rid of you.      1025 00:42:44,688 --> 00:42:46,564      [automated voice]   This call            is from a federal prison.      1026 00:42:46,606 --> 00:42:50,735                                      1027 00:42:50,777 --> 00:42:53,988     [Shannon]   That was their way          of cleaning up the hoods now.    1028 00:42:56,366 --> 00:43:00,912          And all the Blacks               and Hispanics in Manhattan,     1029 00:43:00,954 --> 00:43:03,373           Brooklyn, Queens,                   all over New York.          1030 00:43:03,415 --> 00:43:05,375                                      1031 00:43:05,417 --> 00:43:09,421             But that charge                   was mainly for the mob.       1032 00:43:09,462 --> 00:43:11,214          soft dramatic music        1033 00:43:11,256 --> 00:43:13,383                                      1034 00:43:13,425 --> 00:43:17,178    [Nas]   Queens has a long history         of mob and mafia activity.     1035 00:43:17,220 --> 00:43:20,473       RICO charges are nothing new                   in Queens.             1036 00:43:20,515 --> 00:43:22,892     [reporter]   Gambino crime boss                   John Gotti             1037 00:43:22,934 --> 00:43:24,894           and his co-defendant                     Frank Locasio            1038 00:43:24,936 --> 00:43:27,647       guilty on a host of felonies         that could send them to prison  1039 00:43:27,689 --> 00:43:28,314       for the rest of their lives.    1040 00:43:28,356 --> 00:43:30,233                                      1041 00:43:30,275 --> 00:43:31,735               [Prince]                       They put me in the cell,      1042 00:43:31,776 --> 00:43:33,403        and right across from us,      1043 00:43:33,445 --> 00:43:36,156            it was John Gotti.         1044 00:43:36,197 --> 00:43:38,158              People took us                       as drug dealers,          1045 00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,744            but the reason why              Supreme Team kind of stood out  1046 00:43:40,785 --> 00:43:44,372           against other people             is because we were organized,    1047 00:43:44,414 --> 00:43:46,750       and we was actually charged              with organized crime.        1048 00:43:46,791 --> 00:43:48,960              Same as Gotti.                      RICO. Same thing.          1049 00:43:49,002 --> 00:43:51,254                                      1050 00:43:51,296 --> 00:43:54,758      [Shannon]   We would go back           and forth to court with Gotti    1051 00:43:54,799 --> 00:43:57,677        and different big-time,                you know, Italians.         1052 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,053             They were cool.           1053 00:43:59,095 --> 00:44:02,265                                      1054 00:44:02,307 --> 00:44:05,351           So my wife, she had                  got arrested with us.        1055 00:44:05,393 --> 00:44:09,397     And, um, they put all the men           in the back of the bus.       1056 00:44:09,439 --> 00:44:11,191                And um,               1057 00:44:11,232 --> 00:44:14,903        Prince had told my wife              that I was in the back,       1058 00:44:14,944 --> 00:44:18,072          so go in the back,             and the guard told her not to.    1059 00:44:18,114 --> 00:44:20,742          So then Gotti said,               "Listen. That's his wife.      1060 00:44:20,784 --> 00:44:22,952         Let her go back there                     with him."              1061 00:44:22,994 --> 00:44:25,622           The marshal said,             "Okay, she can go back there."    1062 00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:27,248                                      1063 00:44:27,290 --> 00:44:29,793               And we just                       chilled in the back         1064 00:44:29,834 --> 00:44:32,045             till we got back                      to MCC New York.          1065 00:44:35,173 --> 00:44:38,384                                      1066 00:44:38,426 --> 00:44:41,888      [Joyce]   It was an adventure            in the surreal every day.      1067 00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:44,432                I mean,                    Gerald was always focused.      1068 00:44:44,474 --> 00:44:45,934          He knew what witnesses                     are coming,             1069 00:44:45,975 --> 00:44:47,602           what they would say,        1070 00:44:47,644 --> 00:44:50,313         he would have questions            he would want me to ask them.    1071 00:44:50,355 --> 00:44:55,026       He had one set of charges            of intimidating a witness      1072 00:44:55,068 --> 00:44:58,112       and the government played            some tapes of phone calls      1073 00:44:58,154 --> 00:45:02,492    and after they had played them,          in one of the breaks,        1074 00:45:02,534 --> 00:45:03,993          Gerald said to me,          1075 00:45:04,035 --> 00:45:06,788     "We're playing the two tapes               they didn't play.          1076 00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:09,999             So I'm like,                   "You sure you want this?"      1077 00:45:10,041 --> 00:45:12,544           And he was like,              "Play them. Please play them."    1078 00:45:12,585 --> 00:45:13,837           And he was right.          1079 00:45:13,878 --> 00:45:15,129         When we played them,         1080 00:45:15,171 --> 00:45:17,257        I remember sitting down                     saying--               1081 00:45:17,298 --> 00:45:19,133     and saying to him, you know,               "You were right."          1082 00:45:19,175 --> 00:45:20,760    Didn't sound so bad after all.    1083 00:45:20,802 --> 00:45:21,678       And he did get acquitted                     on that.               1084 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,222                                      1085 00:45:24,264 --> 00:45:29,310              His knowledge                 of those wiretapped materials    1086 00:45:29,352 --> 00:45:33,606      were probably the greatest              treasure I ever found        1087 00:45:33,648 --> 00:45:35,525       in criminal defense law.       1088 00:45:35,567 --> 00:45:36,860          All of the defendants        1089 00:45:36,901 --> 00:45:38,319              were acquitted                    on the murder charges,       1090 00:45:38,361 --> 00:45:40,780      murder in aid of racketeering.  1091 00:45:40,822 --> 00:45:44,534       Gerald was acquitted on the           witness intimidation charges    1092 00:45:44,576 --> 00:45:47,620              and convicted                      of the drug charges         1093 00:45:47,662 --> 00:45:49,205          and the racketeering.        1094 00:45:49,247 --> 00:45:53,877                                      1095 00:45:53,918 --> 00:45:54,961     [Bing]   I forgot how many days    1096 00:45:55,003 --> 00:45:57,130         the jury deliberated                     on our case.             1097 00:45:57,171 --> 00:46:00,925             But ultimate,                 they came with the decision     1098 00:46:00,967 --> 00:46:05,513       that wasn't in our favor,               but we respected it         1099 00:46:05,555 --> 00:46:07,056     'cause we know who we's are,     1100 00:46:07,098 --> 00:46:09,350       what we was involved in.       1101 00:46:09,392 --> 00:46:11,019          That's part of it.          1102 00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:13,688      But when you got that DNA,      1103 00:46:13,730 --> 00:46:14,480           can't break you.           1104 00:46:14,522 --> 00:46:18,026                                      1105 00:46:18,067 --> 00:46:20,945       I told that to the judge                 in the courtroom.          1106 00:46:20,987 --> 00:46:22,405         "You can't break me.                  You got some more?"         1107 00:46:22,447 --> 00:46:24,324                                      1108 00:46:24,365 --> 00:46:25,408             I got 19 years.           1109 00:46:25,450 --> 00:46:28,286                                      1110 00:46:28,328 --> 00:46:29,746       [Shannon]   They was trying                  to give me life,          1111 00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:32,206        but the judge said he seen            something different in me,     1112 00:46:32,248 --> 00:46:36,377        so he said he's just gonna               give me 360 months.         1113 00:46:36,419 --> 00:46:41,591                                      1114 00:46:47,305 --> 00:46:48,598        [Prince]   My father once                   told me, "Man,"           1115 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,099            he said, "Listen.          1116 00:46:50,141 --> 00:46:52,560         Fast things don't last."      1117 00:46:52,602 --> 00:46:54,771      And he was telling the truth,                      man.                1118 00:46:56,314 --> 00:46:57,732       When I lay in bed at night,     1119 00:46:57,774 --> 00:46:59,651      that's when my thoughts start                 to drift back            1120 00:46:59,692 --> 00:47:03,029      to the early days of my youth.  1121 00:47:03,071 --> 00:47:05,239       You know, and I ask myself,                      I say,               1122 00:47:05,281 --> 00:47:06,407       how was it that I developed     1123 00:47:06,449 --> 00:47:08,409             a criminal mind                     acquired character?         1124 00:47:11,162 --> 00:47:12,705         If certain things hadn't             happened when I was young      1125 00:47:12,747 --> 00:47:14,540           and I wouldn't have                   saw certain things,         1126 00:47:14,582 --> 00:47:16,292       would I have turned this way            or not turned this way?       1127 00:47:16,334 --> 00:47:17,418                  Or...                1128 00:47:20,421 --> 00:47:24,467       You know, I've been in jail              since March 21, 1990.        1129 00:47:24,509 --> 00:47:26,678          My thing is that, man,                 I put myself in here        1130 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,221          because for real, man,       1131 00:47:28,262 --> 00:47:30,264          I shouldn't have been                  out here doing that.        1132 00:47:30,306 --> 00:47:32,141           I haven't been home                       since then.             1133 00:47:34,894 --> 00:47:36,312                 [Nas]                       It was a different world.      1134 00:47:36,354 --> 00:47:38,481        It was no longer the '80s.     1135 00:47:38,523 --> 00:47:42,110        So things are different                 on a major level.          1136 00:47:42,151 --> 00:47:43,653         Things are changing.         1137 00:47:43,695 --> 00:47:45,571            Kool & the Gang's               "Slick Superchick" playing     1138 00:47:45,613 --> 00:47:47,448                                     1139 00:47:47,490 --> 00:47:48,825                 Yo                 1140 00:47:48,866 --> 00:47:50,076       [Nas]   Hip-hop jumped off,      1141 00:47:50,118 --> 00:47:51,411         and artists were making                     real money.             1142 00:47:51,452 --> 00:47:53,454             That's right.            1143 00:47:53,496 --> 00:47:57,458     [Nas]   The drug game no longer         seemed like the only way out.    1144 00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:59,293         It was just go time,                 you know what I mean?        1145 00:47:59,335 --> 00:48:02,505        Like, it was no longer            just about the five boroughs.    1146 00:48:02,547 --> 00:48:04,632          You know, Dre and them             started getting in the game     1147 00:48:04,674 --> 00:48:06,634     and it was like a whirlwind.     1148 00:48:06,676 --> 00:48:09,929          -How easy is this?                 -[cheers and applause]        1149 00:48:09,971 --> 00:48:11,723              [reporter]                    Music has power, all right.     1150 00:48:11,764 --> 00:48:13,099         The advertising industry      1151 00:48:13,141 --> 00:48:16,561           is betting rap music                   has selling power.         1152 00:48:16,602 --> 00:48:18,271     [reporter]   Time Warner alone              made early $4 billion        1153 00:48:18,312 --> 00:48:19,856         selling music last year.      1154 00:48:19,897 --> 00:48:21,441            As for rap music,          1155 00:48:21,482 --> 00:48:24,027       it made up about $1 billion               of all music sales.         1156 00:48:24,068 --> 00:48:26,362         [cheers and applause]        1157 00:48:26,404 --> 00:48:29,198     [Nas]   Even though the Supreme            Team had been put away,       1158 00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:31,159             Prince, Supreme,                  and the rest of the guys      1159 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,869          had left an impression                      on hip-hop             1160 00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:35,830         that was built to last.       1161 00:48:35,872 --> 00:48:37,040               [Prince]                       We was hip-hop for real.      1162 00:48:37,081 --> 00:48:38,041        You know what I'm saying?      1163 00:48:38,082 --> 00:48:40,126         We was living that life,      1164 00:48:40,168 --> 00:48:41,294         and they turned the life                   we was living            1165 00:48:41,335 --> 00:48:43,921          into a rap story, man.       1166 00:48:43,963 --> 00:48:47,550            They emulated us.          1167 00:48:47,592 --> 00:48:50,053          [Robert]   The reason                  I believe that McGriff       1168 00:48:50,094 --> 00:48:54,140        and the Supreme Team have             longevity in the community     1169 00:48:54,182 --> 00:48:55,725          is because of rap.          1170 00:48:55,767 --> 00:48:59,353           I didn't realize                we had influence back then,     1171 00:48:59,395 --> 00:49:02,857            but I realized it                   once I got locked up.        1172 00:49:02,899 --> 00:49:05,318                                      1173 00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:09,113        [Nas]   Preme left Queens              in the early days of rap.      1174 00:49:09,155 --> 00:49:10,782           Things had changed.         1175 00:49:10,823 --> 00:49:13,701       This was now the golden age                   of hip-hop.             1176 00:49:13,743 --> 00:49:16,871              Big business.            1177 00:49:16,913 --> 00:49:18,664             Around the time,                       it seemed like           1178 00:49:18,706 --> 00:49:22,543      every other song on the radio         had a Supreme Team reference.    1179 00:49:22,585 --> 00:49:25,088          It's the world-famous                 Supreme Team show          1180 00:49:25,129 --> 00:49:27,298            Supreme Team show,                      show, show             1181 00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:29,300            My team's Supreme,                      stay clean             1182 00:49:29,342 --> 00:49:31,636           Self-esteem make me               super superb and supreme      1183 00:49:31,677 --> 00:49:33,262              Supreme Team,                    America's Cream Team        1184 00:49:33,304 --> 00:49:35,098                Redeemed,                         Vidal Sassoon            1185 00:49:37,767 --> 00:49:39,393       [Prince]   A lot of times,                 young guys come in,         1186 00:49:39,435 --> 00:49:40,812              and they say,                      "Oh, you that person        1187 00:49:40,853 --> 00:49:42,355         I heard Nas rap about."       1188 00:49:42,396 --> 00:49:44,690       And then one time, somebody                 say, "Hey, man,           1189 00:49:44,732 --> 00:49:46,984         I remember Biggie said,            'My team Supreme, stay clean.'  1190 00:49:47,026 --> 00:49:48,653       Was he talking about y'all?"    1191 00:49:48,694 --> 00:49:50,780       And I laughed, they laughed,           you know what I'm saying?      1192 00:49:50,822 --> 00:49:52,281            It happens a lot.          1193 00:49:55,952 --> 00:49:57,203      [Robert]   During that time,      1194 00:49:57,245 --> 00:50:00,289        McGriff studied very hard                     in prison,             1195 00:50:00,331 --> 00:50:04,252         developed a vocabulary,       1196 00:50:04,293 --> 00:50:08,422           understood something                  about entertainment.        1197 00:50:08,464 --> 00:50:10,633              He didn't want                 to be a drug dealer anymore.    1198 00:50:10,675 --> 00:50:13,094            And he didn't want                to be an enforcer anymore,     1199 00:50:13,136 --> 00:50:17,598    and the entertainment business         was the next step for him.      1200 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,975                                      1201 00:50:19,016 --> 00:50:20,601          [Nas]   In the '80s,          1202 00:50:20,643 --> 00:50:24,147          Prince had taken over               while Preme was in prison.     1203 00:50:24,188 --> 00:50:26,482         Now things have flipped.      1204 00:50:26,524 --> 00:50:28,860                                      1205 00:50:28,901 --> 00:50:30,945        Preme was about to get out     1206 00:50:30,987 --> 00:50:34,657       just as Prince went back in.    1207 00:50:34,699 --> 00:50:36,951      [Bill]   When Prince goes in               and McGriff comes out,       1208 00:50:36,993 --> 00:50:39,370        this is a whole new game.      1209 00:50:39,412 --> 00:50:41,831             It's, you know,                    eight years in prison,       1210 00:50:41,873 --> 00:50:45,126    the whole music scene changes,         you know, fashion changes.      1211 00:50:45,168 --> 00:50:47,128        This industry with rappers     1212 00:50:47,170 --> 00:50:49,046                is, like,                      shooting off the charts.      1213 00:50:49,088 --> 00:50:51,841       Everybody wants to buy these           albums, kids in suburbia.      1214 00:50:51,883 --> 00:50:54,051          So it must've been               kind of a shock to Supreme      1215 00:50:54,093 --> 00:50:55,386           when he came out           1216 00:50:55,428 --> 00:50:57,388         to see how the world                  changed so rapidly          1217 00:50:57,430 --> 00:51:00,183         and how he was gonna             reinvent himself in the game.    1218 00:51:00,224 --> 00:51:02,852         soft orchestral music       1219 00:51:02,894 --> 00:51:07,440    [Nas]   I remember people feeling       like Preme had a second shot.    1220 00:51:07,481 --> 00:51:10,359     I think all eyes was on him,                 so to speak.             1221 00:51:10,401 --> 00:51:12,445     I think people waiting to see    1222 00:51:12,486 --> 00:51:15,531         what mastermind move                  he was gonna make.          1223 00:51:15,573 --> 00:51:18,993                                      1224 00:51:19,035 --> 00:51:20,870       [Supreme]   You can't plan                  to leave the game.         1225 00:51:20,912 --> 00:51:24,665          You just gotta leave.                You just gotta get out.       1226 00:51:24,707 --> 00:51:25,833              It's like war.           1227 00:51:25,875 --> 00:51:27,543          You don't wanna fight                     a war forever,           1228 00:51:27,585 --> 00:51:29,837              so the longer                     you stay in that war,        1229 00:51:29,879 --> 00:51:32,381       the greater the chances you                   get killed.             1230 00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:34,842                                      1231 00:51:34,884 --> 00:51:36,719            Who wants to stay                     in a war forever?          1232 00:51:36,761 --> 00:51:38,262             [phone beeping]           1233 00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:41,390               -Yo, fight!                               -Yo!                1234 00:51:41,432 --> 00:51:43,184             -What's up, man?                         -Hey, man.             1235 00:51:43,226 --> 00:51:45,937      -I was at this friend's house.       -And what was you doin', man?    1236 00:51:45,978 --> 00:51:48,231          -What's up with that?               -Man, I was doing the ooh.     1237 00:51:48,272 --> 00:51:50,233             And he was there                     the other night...         1238 00:51:50,274 --> 00:51:52,360                  -Yeah?                        -And I seen Chet, man.       1239 00:51:52,401 --> 00:51:54,111                  -Chet?                          -Yeah, Chet, man.          1240 00:51:54,153 --> 00:51:55,738          -What's up with Chet?                       -Hey, man.             1241 00:51:55,780 --> 00:51:57,907        -You grab the street vibe.                    -Oh, man.              1242 00:51:57,949 --> 00:52:00,868                -Ooh-wee!                             -Ooh-wee!              1243 00:52:00,910 --> 00:52:02,411          Hey, baby, come here.                  What's up with you?         1244 00:52:02,453 --> 00:52:04,121            -Where's the baby?                       -It's okay.             1245 00:52:04,163 --> 00:52:05,831               -What's up?                      -Hey, what's up, Herc?       1246 00:52:05,873 --> 00:52:09,418              Jamaica funk,                     that's what it is          1247 00:52:09,460 --> 00:52:11,420                                      1248 00:52:11,462 --> 00:52:14,590          Let it get into you        1249 00:52:14,632 --> 00:52:18,427       Come on, I've got a groove   1250 00:52:18,469 --> 00:52:20,263         You know where I'll be      1251 00:52:20,304 --> 00:52:22,932          Funkin' for Jamaica        1252 00:52:22,974 --> 00:52:24,600            If ya feel it...