1 00:00:05,005 --> 00:00:10,969 ‎NETFLIX 剧集 2 00:01:01,686 --> 00:01:04,189 ‎什么?不可能显示已售罄啊 3 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:07,192 ‎我确认过它已经出货了 4 00:01:07,275 --> 00:01:08,276 ‎对 5 00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:11,154 ‎应该会在当地9号上午送达 6 00:01:11,237 --> 00:01:12,697 ‎(崔振表) 7 00:01:12,781 --> 00:01:13,907 ‎我确认尺寸了 8 00:01:14,532 --> 00:01:16,117 ‎是 辛苦了 9 00:01:17,202 --> 00:01:18,328 ‎你好 这里是罗温 10 00:01:18,411 --> 00:01:19,245 ‎天啊 11 00:01:19,329 --> 00:01:20,330 ‎是 小姐 12 00:01:21,372 --> 00:01:24,000 ‎是 你上次退回的物品确认有瑕疵 13 00:01:24,793 --> 00:01:25,668 ‎是 14 00:01:25,752 --> 00:01:28,254 ‎(崔振浩:我按照你说的重写了 ‎自我介绍 帮我看一下) 15 00:01:28,338 --> 00:01:31,508 ‎-真是的 那小子动作真快 ‎-还是你希望退货呢? 16 00:01:33,635 --> 00:01:36,221 ‎(附件档案:自我介绍 文档) 17 00:01:36,304 --> 00:01:38,097 ‎(正在下载) 18 00:01:45,980 --> 00:01:47,857 ‎(使用与此无关的应用程式 ‎建立的文件) 19 00:01:47,941 --> 00:01:49,150 ‎(启用编辑) 20 00:01:49,984 --> 00:01:50,860 ‎这是怎样? 21 00:02:00,078 --> 00:02:01,246 ‎喂?哥 怎么了? 22 00:02:01,329 --> 00:02:03,790 ‎你发给我的自我介绍档案打不开 ‎再发一次吧 23 00:02:04,415 --> 00:02:05,542 ‎我回家再帮你看 24 00:02:06,126 --> 00:02:07,544 ‎我没发自我介绍给你啊 25 00:02:08,253 --> 00:02:09,337 ‎你没发? 26 00:02:18,972 --> 00:02:19,973 ‎嗯? 27 00:02:21,182 --> 00:02:22,100 ‎怎么回事? 28 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:25,937 ‎我先走了 29 00:02:27,063 --> 00:02:28,982 ‎唉唷 振表! 30 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,116 ‎什么? 31 00:02:39,284 --> 00:02:40,118 ‎嗯? 32 00:02:44,289 --> 00:02:45,248 ‎振表 33 00:02:46,124 --> 00:02:47,125 ‎振表? 34 00:02:48,334 --> 00:02:49,294 ‎怎么了? 35 00:02:53,339 --> 00:02:55,008 ‎代表 我… 36 00:02:56,175 --> 00:02:57,176 ‎好像上当了 37 00:02:57,260 --> 00:02:58,469 ‎什么? 38 00:02:59,721 --> 00:03:00,972 ‎鱼叉式网络钓鱼 39 00:03:07,770 --> 00:03:13,693 ‎第 15 桩 ‎剧名:没问的话 没吩咐的事 40 00:03:28,666 --> 00:03:30,251 ‎我觉得我们 41 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,129 ‎还是别交往比较好 42 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,221 ‎你为什么突然这么说? 43 00:03:42,305 --> 00:03:44,015 ‎对不起 44 00:04:30,103 --> 00:04:32,272 ‎(手术室) 45 00:04:34,607 --> 00:04:36,693 ‎你要坚强一点 知道吗? 46 00:04:36,776 --> 00:04:37,944 ‎我很坚强 47 00:04:38,027 --> 00:04:40,029 ‎-我没事 你别担心 ‎-好 48 00:04:44,701 --> 00:04:46,869 ‎郑明锡律师! 49 00:04:49,789 --> 00:04:50,915 ‎嗯? 50 00:04:50,999 --> 00:04:52,125 ‎禹英禑律师 51 00:04:52,750 --> 00:04:54,085 ‎你怎么会来这里? 52 00:04:54,168 --> 00:04:55,753 ‎我搭地铁来的 53 00:04:55,837 --> 00:04:57,755 ‎不是 我是说… 54 00:04:58,464 --> 00:05:01,009 ‎你为何会来?现在你应该在公司啊 55 00:05:01,092 --> 00:05:04,178 ‎这个啊 我想来见见你 56 00:05:05,471 --> 00:05:07,598 ‎要是你手术失败死亡 57 00:05:07,682 --> 00:05:09,517 ‎我就再也见不到你了 58 00:05:10,018 --> 00:05:10,977 ‎你说什么? 59 00:05:11,060 --> 00:05:12,478 ‎妈 60 00:05:12,562 --> 00:05:14,897 ‎禹英禑律师没有恶意 61 00:05:14,981 --> 00:05:16,357 ‎打声招呼吧 这位是我妈 62 00:05:17,108 --> 00:05:19,527 ‎你好 我叫禹英禑 63 00:05:19,610 --> 00:05:20,987 ‎正着念、倒着念都一样的禹英禑 64 00:05:21,070 --> 00:05:23,406 ‎黑吃黑、多伦多、石榴石 ‎文言文、盐酸盐、禹英禑 65 00:05:23,489 --> 00:05:27,118 ‎-什么? ‎-妈 我跟你说过 66 00:05:27,201 --> 00:05:29,162 ‎韩国治疗胃癌的实力是世界一流的 67 00:05:29,245 --> 00:05:32,874 ‎听说术后存活率超过七成 68 00:05:32,957 --> 00:05:34,125 ‎别担心 69 00:05:34,208 --> 00:05:38,254 ‎那是因为早期发现胃癌的病患 ‎也都被涵盖进去了 70 00:05:38,338 --> 00:05:40,214 ‎像郑明锡律师这样胃癌第三期的情况 71 00:05:40,298 --> 00:05:41,966 ‎术后五年存活率仅有三至四成… 72 00:05:42,050 --> 00:05:45,303 ‎不好意思 我们进去吧 73 00:05:45,386 --> 00:05:46,554 ‎好 74 00:05:46,637 --> 00:05:48,890 ‎明锡 手术加油 75 00:05:48,973 --> 00:05:51,309 ‎-妈在这里等你 ‎-晚点见 76 00:05:51,392 --> 00:05:54,353 ‎请你一定要活着回来! 77 00:05:54,437 --> 00:05:55,521 ‎禹英禑律师 78 00:05:56,355 --> 00:05:57,315 ‎安静一点 79 00:05:58,149 --> 00:06:01,402 ‎请你一定要活着回来! 80 00:06:01,486 --> 00:06:03,321 ‎-儿子加油 ‎-你安静点 81 00:06:05,448 --> 00:06:06,365 ‎一定要喔 82 00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:24,133 ‎南无观世音菩萨 83 00:06:27,804 --> 00:06:33,059 ‎(手术室) 84 00:06:38,356 --> 00:06:39,440 ‎喂? 85 00:06:39,524 --> 00:06:41,567 ‎禹英禑 你在哪?来17楼会议室 86 00:06:41,651 --> 00:06:44,028 ‎我们要跟新案件的委托人开会 87 00:06:44,112 --> 00:06:46,114 ‎我现在不在公司耶 88 00:06:46,197 --> 00:06:48,658 ‎那你还在干吗?快点赶回来啊 89 00:06:49,659 --> 00:06:51,202 ‎这样啊 好 90 00:06:56,624 --> 00:07:00,294 ‎虽然我自己说这些话有点不好意思 91 00:07:01,087 --> 00:07:04,757 ‎但凡事应该都有最合适的人选吧? 92 00:07:04,841 --> 00:07:08,302 ‎汪洋有许多优秀的律师 93 00:07:08,845 --> 00:07:12,640 ‎毕竟这是企业案件 ‎而我在资讯科技方面… 94 00:07:16,978 --> 00:07:19,689 ‎还有一位共同负责案件的律师 ‎她好像到了 95 00:07:20,273 --> 00:07:21,649 ‎赶快进来吧 96 00:07:25,236 --> 00:07:26,320 ‎所以我… 97 00:07:33,077 --> 00:07:35,413 ‎你快点进来啊 干吗呆站在那里? 98 00:07:35,496 --> 00:07:36,831 ‎客户都在等了 99 00:07:36,914 --> 00:07:37,790 ‎好 100 00:07:37,874 --> 00:07:40,668 ‎因为对我而言 ‎从一个空间到另一个空间 101 00:07:40,751 --> 00:07:42,628 ‎所感受到的刺激太大了 102 00:07:42,712 --> 00:07:45,715 ‎如果在心里默数到三 ‎喘口气再进去的话 103 00:07:45,798 --> 00:07:47,550 ‎可以稍微缓解刺激 104 00:07:50,970 --> 00:07:52,805 ‎我偶尔也会那样 105 00:07:52,889 --> 00:07:56,100 ‎空间突然改变会很令人不自在 106 00:07:56,893 --> 00:07:59,103 ‎她好勇敢喔 107 00:07:59,979 --> 00:08:02,356 ‎我都怕别人对我投以异样眼光 108 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,944 ‎所以即使不自在 ‎也会装作若无其事 独自隐忍 109 00:08:07,028 --> 00:08:10,156 ‎现在这种情况下 ‎你还有心情说笑吗? 110 00:08:10,239 --> 00:08:11,657 ‎你还笑得出来? 111 00:08:11,741 --> 00:08:14,243 ‎你现在跟学生时期简直没两样 112 00:08:14,327 --> 00:08:16,412 ‎每次都只有我严肃看待事情 113 00:08:17,038 --> 00:08:19,332 ‎两位毕业于同一所大学吗? 114 00:08:19,415 --> 00:08:21,792 ‎不是 我没上大学 115 00:08:21,876 --> 00:08:24,545 ‎我们是高中同学 我毕业于河那大学 116 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:25,880 ‎河那大学? 117 00:08:27,548 --> 00:08:29,133 ‎哥 118 00:08:29,217 --> 00:08:31,052 ‎不对 前辈 119 00:08:33,429 --> 00:08:36,098 ‎我是2000年进入河那大学的 120 00:08:37,016 --> 00:08:38,476 ‎我是1997年 121 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,895 ‎我是2013年进入河那大学的 122 00:08:40,978 --> 00:08:44,357 ‎2013年?天啊 简直是小宝宝 123 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,691 ‎小宝宝? 124 00:08:46,943 --> 00:08:48,402 ‎我念大学的时候 125 00:08:48,486 --> 00:08:51,405 ‎你来学校办专题讲座 126 00:08:51,489 --> 00:08:52,740 ‎我听了感触良多 127 00:08:52,823 --> 00:08:54,951 ‎不禁赞叹深受全国民 ‎喜爱的线上购物中心 128 00:08:55,034 --> 00:08:57,578 ‎竟然是我们学校前辈创立的 129 00:08:57,662 --> 00:08:59,705 ‎-唉唷 过奖了 ‎-你真的太厉害了 130 00:09:00,456 --> 00:09:01,582 ‎那个… 131 00:09:01,666 --> 00:09:03,584 ‎不是全国民 132 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:08,965 ‎根据最近调查结果 ‎罗温的用户数为4095万4173人 133 00:09:09,048 --> 00:09:12,760 ‎而大韩民国的总人口数为 ‎5162万8117人 134 00:09:15,888 --> 00:09:16,931 ‎意思差不多啦 135 00:09:17,014 --> 00:09:19,559 ‎这表示全国80%的人都在使用罗温 136 00:09:20,518 --> 00:09:21,769 ‎真的很厉害 137 00:09:22,353 --> 00:09:23,229 ‎哪里厉害? 138 00:09:23,896 --> 00:09:25,147 ‎我们都快完蛋了 139 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,987 ‎我们继续谈公事吧? 140 00:09:31,070 --> 00:09:31,904 ‎-好 ‎-是 141 00:09:31,988 --> 00:09:35,950 ‎我们刚才聊到罗温的资料库负责人 ‎说他收到黑客的电子邮件 142 00:09:36,033 --> 00:09:41,622 ‎黑客入侵我们资料库负责人 ‎和他弟弟往来的电子邮件 143 00:09:41,706 --> 00:09:44,917 ‎清楚掌握两人平时的谈话内容 144 00:09:45,001 --> 00:09:48,879 ‎黑客甚至模仿弟弟的口气 ‎寄发电子邮件 145 00:09:48,963 --> 00:09:51,757 ‎如果植入恶意程序码的 ‎附件档案扩展名 146 00:09:51,841 --> 00:09:53,884 ‎是显示安装程序的话 147 00:09:53,968 --> 00:09:56,679 ‎我们资料库负责人就会更小心谨慎 148 00:09:56,762 --> 00:09:59,724 ‎但因为扩展名是文档 ‎他才没有多加怀疑 149 00:09:59,807 --> 00:10:03,769 ‎我都不知道可以用Word档 ‎散播恶意程序码 150 00:10:03,853 --> 00:10:04,937 ‎这是可能的 151 00:10:05,021 --> 00:10:06,856 ‎由于那是为了攻击特定对象 152 00:10:06,939 --> 00:10:09,191 ‎而特别制作的恶意程序码 153 00:10:09,275 --> 00:10:11,777 ‎杀毒软件也侦测不到 154 00:10:11,861 --> 00:10:13,446 ‎黑客落网了吗? 155 00:10:13,529 --> 00:10:14,739 ‎还没有 警方认为 156 00:10:14,822 --> 00:10:16,824 ‎是朝鲜侦察总局所为 157 00:10:16,907 --> 00:10:18,242 ‎但目前还不确定 158 00:10:18,326 --> 00:10:20,161 ‎朝鲜侦察总局? 159 00:10:21,454 --> 00:10:22,663 ‎稍等一下 160 00:10:24,165 --> 00:10:27,209 ‎你们看看这个 来 161 00:10:28,002 --> 00:10:30,212 ‎是不是有点奇怪? 162 00:10:32,506 --> 00:10:34,884 ‎-“程式”? ‎-是的 163 00:10:34,967 --> 00:10:37,637 ‎朝鲜人将程序称为程式 164 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,140 ‎虽然不该光凭这一点 ‎就怀疑是朝鲜所为 165 00:10:41,223 --> 00:10:42,767 ‎但警方正在调查中 166 00:10:42,850 --> 00:10:45,061 ‎如果真的是朝鲜人做的 167 00:10:45,811 --> 00:10:48,064 ‎那要抓到黑客就难了 168 00:10:48,147 --> 00:10:50,274 ‎毕竟也会牵扯到政治问题 169 00:10:50,358 --> 00:10:53,694 ‎不 更大的问题是广播通信委员会 170 00:10:53,778 --> 00:10:57,114 ‎他们对我们处以 ‎整整三千亿韩元的罚款 171 00:10:57,198 --> 00:11:00,034 ‎所以我们才会来找你们 172 00:11:00,117 --> 00:11:03,871 ‎仔细想想 我们也是 ‎遭朝鲜黑客攻击的被害人 173 00:11:03,954 --> 00:11:08,042 ‎因为我们没有妥善保护用户资料 ‎就被罚款三千亿韩元 174 00:11:08,125 --> 00:11:10,002 ‎这太夸张了吧? 175 00:11:10,628 --> 00:11:14,256 ‎黑客入侵我们资料库管理员的电脑时 176 00:11:14,340 --> 00:11:19,053 ‎连接资料库服务器的终端 ‎就以登入状态显示在荧幕上 177 00:11:19,136 --> 00:11:22,765 ‎所以从黑客的角度来看 ‎就相当于省去了 178 00:11:22,848 --> 00:11:25,684 ‎连接服务器时必须窃取 179 00:11:25,768 --> 00:11:27,978 ‎管理员账号与密码的麻烦 180 00:11:28,062 --> 00:11:30,856 ‎广通委就是针对这个部分在做文章 181 00:11:31,649 --> 00:11:35,569 ‎他们认为我们的资料库服务器 ‎没有妥善设好闲置逾时 182 00:11:35,653 --> 00:11:38,280 ‎所谓的闲置逾时 183 00:11:38,364 --> 00:11:41,700 ‎是指最长连线时间限制吧? 184 00:11:41,784 --> 00:11:42,660 ‎没错 185 00:11:42,743 --> 00:11:44,412 ‎过了一定的时间 186 00:11:44,495 --> 00:11:46,705 ‎就会自动切断连线 187 00:11:46,789 --> 00:11:49,875 ‎只能在必要的时间内连线登入系统 188 00:11:49,959 --> 00:11:53,671 ‎罗温的资料库服务器 ‎没有那个设定吗? 189 00:11:53,754 --> 00:11:55,005 ‎对 190 00:11:55,548 --> 00:11:56,924 ‎我们没有特别设定 191 00:12:00,594 --> 00:12:01,887 ‎我觉得… 192 00:12:03,722 --> 00:12:06,642 ‎应该是广通委不小心多打了几个零 193 00:12:06,725 --> 00:12:07,768 ‎-什么? ‎-什么? 194 00:12:07,852 --> 00:12:11,564 ‎几年前阿哈购物网 ‎也发生过个人信息外泄的事件 195 00:12:11,647 --> 00:12:15,568 ‎你们知道阿哈当时缴了多少罚款吗? 196 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,486 ‎不知道 197 00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:19,780 ‎当时有200万条左右的 ‎个人信息遭外泄 198 00:12:19,864 --> 00:12:21,532 ‎但他们缴了七千万韩元 199 00:12:21,615 --> 00:12:22,741 ‎什么? 200 00:12:22,825 --> 00:12:26,662 ‎是 而JP通信的外泄规模更大 201 00:12:26,745 --> 00:12:29,081 ‎将近有1000万条 202 00:12:29,748 --> 00:12:33,210 ‎但他们才被罚一亿韩元而已 203 00:12:33,294 --> 00:12:35,838 ‎那他们为什么 ‎要罚我们三千亿韩元呢? 204 00:12:35,921 --> 00:12:38,340 ‎因为我们个人信息外泄的数量最多? 205 00:12:39,633 --> 00:12:42,178 ‎也对 毕竟外泄了四千多万条 206 00:12:42,261 --> 00:12:44,889 ‎四千万条就几乎是全国民… 207 00:12:47,141 --> 00:12:50,686 ‎之中的80%吧? 208 00:12:50,769 --> 00:12:51,770 ‎可是啊 209 00:12:52,271 --> 00:12:54,982 ‎又不是四千万人的财产出现损失 210 00:12:55,858 --> 00:12:58,027 ‎只不过是个人信息嘛 211 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,739 ‎韩国大多数人在注册网站会员时 212 00:13:01,822 --> 00:13:04,450 ‎不是都会认知到 213 00:13:05,075 --> 00:13:06,702 ‎有个人信息外泄风险吗? 214 00:13:06,785 --> 00:13:09,038 ‎那他们为什么只针对我们呢? 215 00:13:09,121 --> 00:13:13,125 ‎广通委总不可能真的 ‎不小心多打了几个零吧? 216 00:13:13,209 --> 00:13:15,711 ‎是 当然不可能 217 00:13:16,545 --> 00:13:17,796 ‎那个 218 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,342 ‎广通委那边有我认识的人 219 00:13:21,425 --> 00:13:26,388 ‎我会通过他们了解一下 ‎广通委这么做的理由 220 00:13:26,472 --> 00:13:28,349 ‎以及整体气氛如何 221 00:13:31,477 --> 00:13:32,394 ‎不过 222 00:13:33,312 --> 00:13:36,565 ‎企业和广通委打官司迄今从来没输过 223 00:13:36,649 --> 00:13:40,319 ‎广通委是政府机关 ‎请不起昂贵的律所 224 00:13:40,402 --> 00:13:43,781 ‎因此他们总是会输给 ‎聘用大型律所的企业 225 00:13:44,615 --> 00:13:46,242 ‎这次肯定也会是这样 226 00:13:46,325 --> 00:13:47,785 ‎请别担心 227 00:13:48,702 --> 00:13:49,537 ‎前辈 228 00:14:08,389 --> 00:14:10,307 ‎怎么了?我不能坐这里吗? 229 00:14:10,391 --> 00:14:13,686 ‎还有很多空位 不必硬要坐这吧 230 00:14:15,062 --> 00:14:16,146 ‎好吧 231 00:14:17,523 --> 00:14:19,692 ‎你还是坐吧 232 00:14:21,318 --> 00:14:22,945 ‎我们之前也一起吃过饭嘛 233 00:14:23,028 --> 00:14:25,656 ‎唉唷 出尔反尔的 真难搞 234 00:14:36,250 --> 00:14:37,376 ‎对喔 235 00:14:37,459 --> 00:14:39,128 ‎他跟英禑没戏唱了 236 00:14:39,795 --> 00:14:42,339 ‎我没想到浚浩会一个人吃午餐 237 00:14:42,423 --> 00:14:44,675 ‎我们去坐浚浩旁边一起吃吧? 238 00:14:50,097 --> 00:14:51,807 ‎我看没那个必要 239 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,561 ‎浚浩 你今天一个人吃饭啊? 240 00:14:55,644 --> 00:14:56,729 ‎我可以坐这吧? 241 00:14:57,980 --> 00:14:58,939 ‎好 242 00:15:00,149 --> 00:15:02,568 ‎-浚浩 原来你也喜欢吃香肠 ‎-对耶 243 00:15:02,651 --> 00:15:05,279 ‎我差点忘了浚浩是汪洋的人气王 244 00:15:05,362 --> 00:15:06,447 ‎就是啊 245 00:15:07,197 --> 00:15:10,034 ‎你是在担心谁啊? 246 00:15:12,161 --> 00:15:14,955 ‎-衬衫的颜色好适合你 ‎-就是说啊 247 00:15:17,249 --> 00:15:18,542 ‎也吃点这个吧 248 00:15:29,511 --> 00:15:31,472 ‎(70亿条个人信息外泄 ‎缴纳一亿韩元罚款即可) 249 00:15:35,392 --> 00:15:36,435 ‎请进 250 00:15:41,190 --> 00:15:43,400 ‎唉唷 我就知道会这样 251 00:15:43,484 --> 00:15:46,570 ‎你怎么凄凉地一个人 ‎窝在办公室里吃饭? 252 00:15:46,654 --> 00:15:47,655 ‎那个 253 00:15:47,738 --> 00:15:48,948 ‎我有事情要忙 254 00:15:49,031 --> 00:15:52,868 ‎工作越忙就越要把握午休时间 ‎出去走走啊 255 00:15:52,952 --> 00:15:57,122 ‎你也去跟别的男人吃饭、喝咖啡啊 256 00:15:57,706 --> 00:15:59,249 ‎今天天气这么好 257 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,132 ‎你跟浚浩怎么了? 258 00:16:09,093 --> 00:16:10,260 ‎你是指什么? 259 00:16:10,344 --> 00:16:13,681 ‎听说你拒绝交往 ‎你为什么要那么做? 260 00:16:16,308 --> 00:16:18,227 ‎那个… 261 00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:20,521 ‎你也没跟浚浩好好解释过吧? 262 00:16:21,689 --> 00:16:22,564 ‎没有 263 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:24,566 ‎禹英禑 你搞什么? 264 00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:26,610 ‎未免太失礼了吧 265 00:16:26,694 --> 00:16:29,822 ‎你抛出别交往的爆炸性宣言后 ‎到现在都没告诉他理由? 266 00:16:33,826 --> 00:16:37,496 ‎我认为上班时间不适合谈论这种私事 267 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,248 ‎现在是午休时间 268 00:16:39,331 --> 00:16:42,668 ‎那我们来聊鲸鱼吧? ‎午休时间本来就是聊鲸… 269 00:16:42,751 --> 00:16:44,670 ‎不 我不要 270 00:16:44,753 --> 00:16:45,879 ‎回答我的问题 271 00:17:05,232 --> 00:17:06,942 ‎你在干吗? 272 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,157 ‎现在午休时间结束 273 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,076 ‎要继续上班了 禁止聊私事 274 00:17:16,952 --> 00:17:18,871 ‎喂 禹英禑 275 00:17:19,538 --> 00:17:20,706 ‎你要去哪里? 276 00:17:21,373 --> 00:17:22,291 ‎喂… 277 00:17:27,755 --> 00:17:28,964 ‎请进 278 00:17:39,933 --> 00:17:41,560 ‎你有什么事? 279 00:17:47,441 --> 00:17:49,234 ‎那个… 280 00:17:50,444 --> 00:17:52,071 ‎张胜准律师 281 00:17:52,154 --> 00:17:56,825 ‎广播通信委员会对罗温 ‎处三千亿韩元的罚款并不是失误 282 00:17:58,452 --> 00:17:59,286 ‎什么? 283 00:17:59,369 --> 00:18:02,956 ‎广播通信委员会并没有 ‎不小心多打了几个零 284 00:18:05,667 --> 00:18:07,211 ‎不然是怎样? 285 00:18:07,294 --> 00:18:12,007 ‎你找到广通委那么做的 ‎个中原因了吗? 286 00:18:23,060 --> 00:18:24,895 ‎(70亿条个人信息外泄 ‎缴纳一亿韩元罚款即可) 287 00:18:24,978 --> 00:18:28,190 ‎“过去十年来 ‎企业外泄的个人信息高达70亿条 288 00:18:28,273 --> 00:18:29,858 ‎却只受到不痛不痒的惩罚 289 00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:30,818 ‎需引进集体诉讼制度 290 00:18:30,901 --> 00:18:33,529 ‎及扩大惩罚性赔偿等 以加强处罚” 291 00:18:35,072 --> 00:18:37,241 ‎还有许多类似的报导 292 00:18:37,324 --> 00:18:39,118 ‎有关个人信息外泄的舆论 293 00:18:39,201 --> 00:18:42,788 ‎正倾向加强对企业的处罚 294 00:18:42,871 --> 00:18:43,831 ‎所以呢? 295 00:18:44,498 --> 00:18:46,875 ‎广通委读了几篇新闻报导 296 00:18:47,668 --> 00:18:50,003 ‎就将先前的一亿韩元罚款 297 00:18:50,087 --> 00:18:52,798 ‎突然调涨到三千亿韩元? 298 00:18:52,881 --> 00:18:53,924 ‎《信息通信网法》 299 00:18:54,007 --> 00:18:55,217 ‎随时都在修订 300 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:58,595 ‎广播通信委员会 ‎对阿哈购物网及JP通信 301 00:18:58,679 --> 00:19:01,890 ‎分别处以七千万韩元 ‎和一亿韩元的罚款时 302 00:19:01,974 --> 00:19:05,519 ‎法律规定罚款的上限金额为一亿韩元 303 00:19:05,602 --> 00:19:07,146 ‎但根据现行法律 304 00:19:07,229 --> 00:19:10,023 ‎最高可处以与违规行为相关之销售额 305 00:19:10,107 --> 00:19:11,942 ‎3%以内的罚款 306 00:19:12,025 --> 00:19:14,945 ‎所以广通委才得以开罚三千亿韩元 307 00:19:25,455 --> 00:19:27,958 ‎她真是太嚣张了 308 00:19:29,251 --> 00:19:31,170 ‎什么?我没听清楚 309 00:19:43,765 --> 00:19:46,143 ‎禹英禑律师 ‎你是第一次跟我共事吧? 310 00:19:46,226 --> 00:19:47,436 ‎是 311 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:50,439 ‎你以后只要遵守一个规则 312 00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:53,108 ‎不说没问的话 313 00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:54,651 ‎不做没吩咐的事 314 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:56,445 ‎听懂了吗? 315 00:19:58,405 --> 00:19:59,698 ‎这样不是两个规则吗? 316 00:20:01,325 --> 00:20:02,159 ‎什么? 317 00:20:02,242 --> 00:20:03,785 ‎一是不说没问的话 318 00:20:03,869 --> 00:20:05,454 ‎二是不做没吩咐的事 319 00:20:05,537 --> 00:20:06,455 ‎这样是两个规则 320 00:20:06,538 --> 00:20:09,249 ‎不管一个还是两个 ‎你听懂我的意思了吗? 321 00:20:11,001 --> 00:20:12,211 ‎是 我懂了 322 00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:25,390 ‎我带了几样小菜来给你妈妈尝尝 323 00:20:26,058 --> 00:20:28,393 ‎我是开酒馆的 324 00:20:28,477 --> 00:20:31,021 ‎所以每一道小菜都像下酒菜 325 00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:34,066 ‎她配着酒一起吃就好啦 326 00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:36,109 ‎神智清醒地照护病患太辛苦了 327 00:20:36,193 --> 00:20:37,736 ‎她戒酒了 328 00:20:37,819 --> 00:20:38,779 ‎是喔 329 00:20:38,862 --> 00:20:41,740 ‎真的很谢谢你们连我妈都照顾到 330 00:20:41,823 --> 00:20:43,283 ‎唉唷 不必客气 331 00:20:43,367 --> 00:20:45,118 ‎看你手术很顺利我就放心了 332 00:20:45,661 --> 00:20:47,496 ‎我把小菜先放进冰箱 333 00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:54,962 ‎禹英禑律师 你怎么了? 334 00:20:55,045 --> 00:20:56,338 ‎你有什么烦恼吗? 335 00:20:57,214 --> 00:20:59,925 ‎-是 我有烦恼 ‎-什么烦恼? 336 00:21:01,635 --> 00:21:05,180 ‎基于律师的保密义务 ‎我没办法告诉你细节 337 00:21:05,264 --> 00:21:08,934 ‎那说得笼统一点就好了 ‎不要说得太详细 338 00:21:09,017 --> 00:21:10,227 ‎那个… 339 00:21:12,896 --> 00:21:15,607 ‎如果共同负责案件的前辈 340 00:21:15,691 --> 00:21:18,193 ‎不听我说话该怎么办? 341 00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:20,988 ‎跟你共同负责案件的前辈是谁? 342 00:21:21,071 --> 00:21:23,031 ‎是张胜准律师 343 00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:24,366 ‎该死 344 00:21:27,327 --> 00:21:30,664 ‎为了你自己着想 345 00:21:31,248 --> 00:21:34,960 ‎压低身段配合张胜准也是一种办… 346 00:21:35,043 --> 00:21:36,003 ‎你要去哪里? 347 00:21:36,086 --> 00:21:37,337 ‎受不了 348 00:21:37,421 --> 00:21:40,882 ‎英禑 他不是要你真的压低身体啦! 349 00:21:44,928 --> 00:21:45,846 ‎是啊 350 00:21:46,346 --> 00:21:48,890 ‎禹律师不可能那么做 351 00:21:48,974 --> 00:21:51,059 ‎她连压低身段都会错意了 352 00:21:52,561 --> 00:21:53,770 ‎那要怎么办? 353 00:21:56,565 --> 00:21:57,941 ‎禹律师 354 00:21:58,650 --> 00:21:59,860 ‎你还有同事啊 355 00:22:00,819 --> 00:22:01,945 ‎你跟同事说吧 356 00:22:02,821 --> 00:22:04,614 ‎如果跟前辈沟通不了 357 00:22:04,698 --> 00:22:06,950 ‎那至少要找同事多多讨论 358 00:22:08,702 --> 00:22:09,536 ‎好吗? 359 00:22:11,371 --> 00:22:12,622 ‎好 360 00:22:25,010 --> 00:22:26,261 ‎鱼叉式网络钓鱼 361 00:22:27,763 --> 00:22:30,015 ‎针对特定个人或机关的漏洞 362 00:22:30,098 --> 00:22:33,143 ‎巧妙地掷出鱼叉 363 00:22:33,226 --> 00:22:38,148 ‎顾名思义就是像掷鱼叉般的黑客攻击 364 00:22:39,107 --> 00:22:42,986 ‎罗温的资料库管理员崔振表先生 ‎所遭受的攻击 365 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:45,781 ‎就是鱼叉式网络钓鱼 366 00:22:45,864 --> 00:22:49,951 ‎黑客通过鱼叉式网络钓鱼 367 00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:52,662 ‎让崔振表先生的电脑 ‎感染恶意程序码后 368 00:22:52,746 --> 00:22:54,539 ‎再对罗温进行APT攻击 369 00:22:54,623 --> 00:22:57,501 ‎也就是高级长期… 370 00:22:57,584 --> 00:22:58,877 ‎原告代理人 371 00:23:00,003 --> 00:23:02,214 ‎感谢你的热心解说 372 00:23:02,297 --> 00:23:06,885 ‎但在场的原告、被告及法官们 373 00:23:06,968 --> 00:23:09,054 ‎都知道APT攻击是什么 374 00:23:09,846 --> 00:23:11,807 ‎可以麻烦跳过说明吗? 375 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:13,558 ‎等等 376 00:23:14,351 --> 00:23:18,188 ‎你知道高级长期威胁是什么吗? 377 00:23:18,271 --> 00:23:23,443 ‎意思就是对目标对象 ‎进行高智能且持续性的攻击 378 00:23:24,444 --> 00:23:25,362 ‎没错 379 00:23:25,445 --> 00:23:28,323 ‎如果我们采用国民参与陪审 380 00:23:28,406 --> 00:23:30,992 ‎就需要详尽地说明 381 00:23:31,076 --> 00:23:32,619 ‎但现在只有我们 382 00:23:32,702 --> 00:23:36,706 ‎旁听的人似乎大部分都是记者 383 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:39,126 ‎我们直接进入正题吧 384 00:23:39,793 --> 00:23:40,794 ‎好的 385 00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:02,357 ‎请稍等 386 00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:05,986 ‎我是要平板电脑 387 00:24:07,571 --> 00:24:09,114 ‎不讲我怎么知道? 388 00:24:09,656 --> 00:24:14,035 ‎像这样对同是黑客攻击被害人的罗温 389 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,121 ‎处以高达三千亿韩元 390 00:24:16,746 --> 00:24:20,876 ‎足以让一间公司倒闭的巨额罚款 391 00:24:20,959 --> 00:24:25,589 ‎显露出广播通信委员会 ‎逾越及滥用了裁量权 392 00:24:26,298 --> 00:24:28,550 ‎我方并未逾越或滥用裁量权 393 00:24:28,633 --> 00:24:30,427 ‎根据《信息通信网法》的规定 394 00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:33,471 ‎被告可对原告处以与违规行为 395 00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:38,226 ‎相关之销售额3%以下的罚款 396 00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:42,314 ‎罗温上一年度的销售额是 ‎三十兆三千亿韩元 397 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:46,943 ‎被告虽可对原告处以 ‎九千亿韩元的罚款 398 00:24:47,027 --> 00:24:49,404 ‎但被告衡诸原告的状况 399 00:24:49,487 --> 00:24:51,323 ‎仅开罚远低于上限的 400 00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:53,950 ‎三千亿韩元 401 00:24:55,785 --> 00:24:59,414 ‎阿哈购物网和JP通信 ‎发生个人信息外泄事件时 402 00:24:59,497 --> 00:25:02,167 ‎被告分别被处以七千万韩元 403 00:25:02,250 --> 00:25:04,794 ‎及一亿韩元的罚款 404 00:25:04,878 --> 00:25:08,840 ‎然而现在却仅以法律修订为由 405 00:25:08,924 --> 00:25:11,801 ‎突然对相同案件开罚三千亿韩元? 406 00:25:12,802 --> 00:25:15,931 ‎裁罚基准明显有失公平 407 00:25:16,014 --> 00:25:20,602 ‎因罗温的疏忽而外泄的个人信息 ‎足足有四千万条 408 00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:23,438 ‎他们泄漏了全国民的个人信息… 409 00:25:23,521 --> 00:25:25,565 ‎不是全国民 410 00:25:26,107 --> 00:25:29,402 ‎大韩民国的人口为五千万人 411 00:25:29,486 --> 00:25:33,907 ‎应该说全国80%的人才对 412 00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:38,370 ‎是 庭上 我修正一下说法 413 00:25:38,995 --> 00:25:42,999 ‎他们泄漏了全国80%的公民个人信息 414 00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:46,044 ‎要缴纳多少罚款才符合公平性呢? 415 00:25:47,087 --> 00:25:49,965 ‎-那个… ‎-本次罗温事件外泄的个人信息 416 00:25:50,048 --> 00:25:52,342 ‎不只是基本的身份资料而已 417 00:25:53,176 --> 00:25:56,805 ‎四千万名国民敏感的信用信息 ‎及金融交易信息 418 00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:58,723 ‎全都被泄漏出去了 419 00:25:58,807 --> 00:25:59,849 ‎结果 420 00:25:59,933 --> 00:26:03,937 ‎他们还嫌只占销售额1%的罚款过重 ‎认为裁罚不当? 421 00:26:04,437 --> 00:26:08,358 ‎这种态度本身就显示了 422 00:26:08,441 --> 00:26:11,486 ‎罗温对用户个人信息的认知不足 423 00:26:18,410 --> 00:26:19,911 ‎我方陈述完毕 424 00:26:31,673 --> 00:26:35,885 ‎就目前的情况 因果关系很重要 425 00:26:35,969 --> 00:26:36,803 ‎你们知道 426 00:26:36,886 --> 00:26:39,014 ‎怠金和罚款不一样吧? 427 00:26:39,097 --> 00:26:40,974 ‎不 我不太清楚 428 00:26:41,850 --> 00:26:47,105 ‎未设定闲置逾时这件事本身 ‎属于怠金处分的范围 429 00:26:47,939 --> 00:26:49,733 ‎顶多会被罚三千万韩元以下 430 00:26:49,816 --> 00:26:53,111 ‎但要是未设定闲置逾时 431 00:26:53,194 --> 00:26:56,406 ‎导致了个人信息外泄的结果 432 00:26:57,574 --> 00:27:00,285 ‎那么就属于罚款的范围 433 00:27:00,994 --> 00:27:04,539 ‎金额也会增加到相关销售额的3% 434 00:27:05,206 --> 00:27:06,041 ‎是 435 00:27:06,124 --> 00:27:07,459 ‎所以说 436 00:27:08,251 --> 00:27:13,840 ‎如果罗温的服务器设定了闲置逾时 437 00:27:14,591 --> 00:27:17,385 ‎你认为能够防止个人信息外泄吗? 438 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,015 ‎这等于是在问“假如大门锁着 439 00:27:22,098 --> 00:27:26,144 ‎小偷是否就偷不走家里的东西?” 440 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,981 ‎这取决于黑客的能力 441 00:27:30,065 --> 00:27:33,443 ‎但我们不晓得黑客是谁 ‎因为目前还没抓到人 442 00:27:33,526 --> 00:27:36,237 ‎但你毕竟是专家 443 00:27:36,321 --> 00:27:38,198 ‎稍微推测一下的话呢? 444 00:27:40,617 --> 00:27:44,746 ‎这关系到究竟是三千万韩元的怠金 445 00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:48,083 ‎还是三千亿韩元的罚款 446 00:27:49,542 --> 00:27:51,211 ‎对了 振表 447 00:27:51,294 --> 00:27:53,755 ‎安装到电脑上的恶意程序码中 ‎也有键盘侧录吧? 448 00:27:53,838 --> 00:27:54,839 ‎嗯? 449 00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:56,716 ‎对 有 450 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,801 ‎键盘侧录? 451 00:27:57,884 --> 00:28:02,806 ‎安装键盘侧录的话 ‎就能窃听电脑主人输入的文字 452 00:28:02,889 --> 00:28:06,101 ‎如果振表输入账号和密码 ‎想连接服务器 453 00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:07,644 ‎对方就能通过监听得知 454 00:28:07,727 --> 00:28:10,480 ‎而黑客只是会多花一点时间而已 455 00:28:10,563 --> 00:28:16,694 ‎所以即使设定了闲置逾时 ‎还是无法防止被入侵吗? 456 00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:18,988 ‎两者之间的因果关系不成立? 457 00:28:19,072 --> 00:28:20,073 ‎对 没错 458 00:28:24,452 --> 00:28:25,620 ‎不好意思 459 00:28:26,246 --> 00:28:27,539 ‎我刚才接到一通电话 460 00:28:28,081 --> 00:28:31,835 ‎我们的用户们正准备提起集体诉讼 461 00:28:33,128 --> 00:28:34,504 ‎集体诉讼? 462 00:28:34,587 --> 00:28:38,216 ‎他们想求偿个人信息外泄的损失 463 00:28:38,299 --> 00:28:40,677 ‎他们委托哪一间律所提起诉讼? 464 00:28:43,596 --> 00:28:47,684 ‎是哪间无事可做的律所 ‎自愿接下这桩麻烦的案件? 465 00:28:47,767 --> 00:28:48,977 ‎就是 466 00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:50,937 ‎泰山法律事务所 467 00:28:53,815 --> 00:28:55,191 ‎泰山? 468 00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:59,320 ‎听说他们正通过网络论坛号召当事人 469 00:29:00,697 --> 00:29:02,949 ‎我找到你说的论坛了 470 00:29:03,032 --> 00:29:04,367 ‎号召速度很快 471 00:29:04,451 --> 00:29:05,869 ‎论坛开设不到一个月 472 00:29:05,952 --> 00:29:07,370 ‎就已经召集100万人了 473 00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:11,708 ‎他们似乎打算请求 ‎每人十万韩元的损害赔偿金 474 00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:14,794 ‎张律师 我们该怎么办? 475 00:29:14,878 --> 00:29:17,255 ‎现在罚款三千亿韩元已经不是重点了 476 00:29:17,338 --> 00:29:18,840 ‎现在不到一个月就有100万人 477 00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:21,217 ‎他们迟早会召集到4000万人 478 00:29:21,301 --> 00:29:23,595 ‎如果那4000万人各求偿十万韩元 479 00:29:23,678 --> 00:29:24,971 ‎总额就是四兆韩元 480 00:29:25,555 --> 00:29:27,807 ‎那样我们就完了 481 00:29:30,018 --> 00:29:31,686 ‎罗温会倒闭的 482 00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:42,197 ‎裴代表 这种时候你更不能慌 483 00:29:44,115 --> 00:29:46,993 ‎个人信息外泄案件本来就是这样 484 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:51,414 ‎不仅要承担怠金或罚款的公法责任 485 00:29:51,498 --> 00:29:53,500 ‎还要连带承担民事诉讼的 486 00:29:53,583 --> 00:29:55,210 ‎司法责任 487 00:29:56,252 --> 00:29:57,086 ‎现在… 488 00:29:57,170 --> 00:29:59,297 ‎是“私法”才对 489 00:30:09,057 --> 00:30:09,933 ‎什么? 490 00:30:10,016 --> 00:30:14,354 ‎不是司法责任 而是私法责任 491 00:30:14,437 --> 00:30:17,816 ‎相对于公法概念的私法 ‎发音时重音要放在后面 492 00:30:17,899 --> 00:30:19,818 ‎包括立法及行政 493 00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:24,280 ‎担任国家作用要角的司法 ‎虽与之拼音相同 但发音不同 494 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,574 ‎禹英禑律师 495 00:30:27,408 --> 00:30:29,953 ‎你现在还有时间跟我扯这个吗? 496 00:30:30,787 --> 00:30:32,831 ‎轮得到你教我发音吗? 497 00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,377 ‎-张胜准律师 ‎-是 498 00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:38,711 ‎可以跟你借一步说话吗? 499 00:30:38,795 --> 00:30:40,338 ‎-我们出去谈吧 ‎-好 500 00:30:51,182 --> 00:30:52,600 ‎我查了一下 501 00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:55,311 ‎发现他在河那大学 ‎校友总会活跃很久了 502 00:30:56,563 --> 00:30:57,605 ‎谁啊? 503 00:30:58,398 --> 00:30:59,607 ‎负责我们案件的审判长 504 00:31:00,191 --> 00:31:02,402 ‎是 河那大学?我知道 505 00:31:03,194 --> 00:31:04,779 ‎我们不能利用这一点吗? 506 00:31:05,405 --> 00:31:06,364 ‎什么? 507 00:31:06,447 --> 00:31:09,617 ‎做生意的人有互相招待的文化 508 00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:11,786 ‎如果司法界也大同小异 509 00:31:12,579 --> 00:31:15,081 ‎那么做说不定会有一些帮助 510 00:31:15,164 --> 00:31:16,249 ‎这样啊 511 00:31:18,167 --> 00:31:19,794 ‎对 说得也是 512 00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:25,925 ‎“没保护好四千万名 ‎用户个人信息的罗温 513 00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:27,468 ‎对仅占销售额1%的罚款 514 00:31:27,552 --> 00:31:29,804 ‎心有不服而提起诉讼 515 00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:31,639 ‎此一事实 516 00:31:31,723 --> 00:31:35,935 ‎显现出罗温 ‎对用户个人信息低下的认知水准” 517 00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:38,354 ‎天啊 518 00:31:38,438 --> 00:31:40,857 ‎你知道现在出现了几篇 ‎同样内容的报导吗? 519 00:31:40,940 --> 00:31:43,651 ‎这样就形同我们故意让委托人挨骂嘛 520 00:31:44,444 --> 00:31:45,278 ‎很抱歉 521 00:31:45,361 --> 00:31:47,196 ‎留言骂得更惨 522 00:31:47,780 --> 00:31:51,242 ‎“赚了三十兆韩元 ‎还抱怨三千亿韩元太多? 523 00:31:51,326 --> 00:31:53,661 ‎泄漏了全国民的个人信息 524 00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:56,039 ‎还声称被黑客攻击 假装成被害人” 525 00:31:56,122 --> 00:31:59,292 ‎你是怎么拟定辩论方向的 ‎风向为何会一面倒? 526 00:31:59,375 --> 00:32:02,754 ‎在类似案件中 ‎不超过一亿韩元的罚款 527 00:32:02,837 --> 00:32:05,381 ‎这次突然提高到三千亿韩元 528 00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:09,677 ‎于是我们指出广通委 ‎逾越及滥用裁量权 529 00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:12,055 ‎并提出了公平性的问题 530 00:32:15,808 --> 00:32:17,352 ‎我们会再想其他办法 531 00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:19,938 ‎比如说呢? 532 00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:21,564 ‎我想主张广通委的处分事由 533 00:32:22,148 --> 00:32:23,650 ‎与黑客之间 534 00:32:23,733 --> 00:32:26,653 ‎没有直接的因果关系 535 00:32:26,736 --> 00:32:29,197 ‎你应该知道泰山正在准备的集体诉讼 536 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,240 ‎是更重要的第二战吧? 537 00:32:32,116 --> 00:32:33,159 ‎是 我知道 538 00:32:33,242 --> 00:32:35,078 ‎这场诉讼必须胜诉 539 00:32:35,161 --> 00:32:37,330 ‎我们才能在集体诉讼中占上风 540 00:32:38,331 --> 00:32:41,876 ‎泰山要代表四千万国民提告 ‎我已经很不乐见了 541 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,212 ‎如果到时候我们还败诉… 542 00:32:47,674 --> 00:32:50,218 ‎拜托不要让这种事成真 好吗? 543 00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:53,388 ‎好的 代表 544 00:32:53,471 --> 00:32:55,890 ‎我绝对不会让这种事发生 545 00:32:55,974 --> 00:32:57,475 ‎我会用尽一切办法 546 00:32:58,059 --> 00:32:58,935 ‎赢得诉讼 547 00:33:04,524 --> 00:33:07,318 ‎“司法”跟“私法”的发音 ‎很重要吗? 548 00:33:07,402 --> 00:33:08,820 ‎那很重要吗? 549 00:33:08,903 --> 00:33:09,904 ‎嗯? 550 00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:13,324 ‎天啊 崔秀妍律师 你方言说得真溜 551 00:33:14,742 --> 00:33:17,120 ‎不管怎么发音 听得懂就好 552 00:33:17,203 --> 00:33:18,913 ‎你干吗老是挑语病激怒人家? 553 00:33:19,497 --> 00:33:22,583 ‎现在状况不一样 ‎我们不是在跟郑明锡律师工作 554 00:33:23,376 --> 00:33:24,460 ‎状况不一样? 555 00:33:25,086 --> 00:33:26,713 ‎是啊 当然不一样 556 00:33:27,255 --> 00:33:29,382 ‎郑明锡律师对你… 557 00:33:30,216 --> 00:33:31,134 ‎怎么说? 558 00:33:32,051 --> 00:33:33,344 ‎比较宽容 559 00:33:33,428 --> 00:33:36,055 ‎他总是容忍你讲些有的没的 ‎不会特别计较 560 00:33:37,765 --> 00:33:39,142 ‎“不说没问的话 561 00:33:39,225 --> 00:33:40,643 ‎不做没吩咐的事” 562 00:33:40,727 --> 00:33:42,353 ‎没错 你很清楚嘛 563 00:33:42,437 --> 00:33:43,938 ‎就是要这样做 564 00:33:47,859 --> 00:33:48,818 ‎(张胜准律师) 565 00:33:49,944 --> 00:33:50,820 ‎是 张律师 566 00:33:51,571 --> 00:33:52,405 ‎好的 567 00:33:53,072 --> 00:33:54,073 ‎好 568 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,579 ‎-你要去哪? ‎-嗯? 569 00:34:00,163 --> 00:34:01,372 ‎他叫我去找他一下 570 00:34:01,456 --> 00:34:02,874 ‎只找你一个? 571 00:34:02,957 --> 00:34:04,876 ‎-对啊 ‎-为什么? 572 00:34:04,959 --> 00:34:07,086 ‎我也不晓得 要去了才知道 573 00:34:18,431 --> 00:34:20,600 ‎你觉得这样够吗? 574 00:34:20,683 --> 00:34:22,935 ‎是不是应该在夜总会订个包厢? 575 00:34:23,978 --> 00:34:27,023 ‎试水温不能做得太过火 576 00:34:27,690 --> 00:34:29,275 ‎每个人喜好不同 577 00:34:29,358 --> 00:34:32,028 ‎有些人对夜总会包厢很反感 578 00:34:32,111 --> 00:34:33,029 ‎了解 579 00:34:33,696 --> 00:34:34,530 ‎那… 580 00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:38,201 ‎这个是不是也不应该今天给他? 581 00:34:42,663 --> 00:34:44,957 ‎唉唷 这个… 582 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,212 ‎还是先看一下待会的气氛吧 583 00:34:49,295 --> 00:34:50,379 ‎好 584 00:34:50,963 --> 00:34:51,923 ‎就是这里 585 00:35:05,394 --> 00:35:07,396 ‎你这是在搞什么? 586 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,525 ‎法官 就像我跟你说的… 587 00:35:10,608 --> 00:35:13,486 ‎你不是跟我说某个 ‎有难处的河那大学后辈 588 00:35:13,569 --> 00:35:17,448 ‎想做点简单的法律咨询吗? 589 00:35:17,949 --> 00:35:21,577 ‎你到底把我当什么人了 ‎竟然做出这种事? 590 00:35:22,245 --> 00:35:26,499 ‎前辈 我确实就是 ‎有难处的河那大学后辈 591 00:35:27,166 --> 00:35:28,459 ‎请你给我五分钟也好 592 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:31,879 ‎求求你听我说 593 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:39,720 ‎你这分明是在试图进行不当请托 594 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:43,724 ‎这次我就当作没发生 算你侥幸 595 00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:45,935 ‎以后不要再做这种事 596 00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:49,897 ‎前辈 597 00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:51,899 ‎前辈! 598 00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:53,192 ‎审判长! 599 00:35:53,276 --> 00:35:54,110 ‎唉唷 600 00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:55,820 ‎审判长! 601 00:36:02,368 --> 00:36:03,536 ‎张律师 602 00:36:04,162 --> 00:36:06,038 ‎这下我该怎么办? 603 00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:10,293 ‎我该怎么做才好? 604 00:36:24,557 --> 00:36:25,600 ‎原告 605 00:36:26,726 --> 00:36:28,853 ‎你们还有其他主张内容吗? 606 00:36:40,823 --> 00:36:41,866 ‎这次… 607 00:36:46,621 --> 00:36:48,122 ‎崔秀妍律师 这次换你去 608 00:36:49,624 --> 00:36:51,334 ‎这样啊 好 609 00:37:02,428 --> 00:37:04,972 ‎我们承认原告未于服务器 610 00:37:05,056 --> 00:37:09,018 ‎设定闲置逾时 ‎也就是最长连线时间限制 611 00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:12,605 ‎但这只是单纯的违反程序 612 00:37:12,688 --> 00:37:15,233 ‎应属最高三千万韩元以下 ‎怠金的处分范围 613 00:37:15,316 --> 00:37:18,152 ‎不适用于三千亿韩元的罚款处分 614 00:37:19,779 --> 00:37:23,491 ‎因为未设定闲置逾时和黑客攻击 615 00:37:23,574 --> 00:37:25,159 ‎并没有直接的因果关系 616 00:37:26,994 --> 00:37:28,663 ‎没有直接的因果关系? 617 00:37:28,746 --> 00:37:29,830 ‎是的 庭上 618 00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:34,460 ‎黑客在崔振表先生电脑 ‎植入的恶意程序码 619 00:37:34,543 --> 00:37:35,920 ‎含有键盘侧录程序 620 00:37:36,545 --> 00:37:40,549 ‎黑客可以通过键盘侧录 ‎追踪崔振表先生 621 00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:42,885 ‎通过键盘输入的所有文字 622 00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:45,972 ‎因此黑客拿到 ‎登入服务器的账号与密码 623 00:37:46,055 --> 00:37:47,932 ‎也只是时间问题 624 00:37:48,015 --> 00:37:48,891 ‎也就是说 625 00:37:48,975 --> 00:37:52,979 ‎即便原告为服务器 ‎设定了最长连线时间限制 626 00:37:53,062 --> 00:37:56,440 ‎一样无法阻止用户个人信息外泄 627 00:37:56,524 --> 00:38:00,528 ‎被告对原告的主张有什么看法? 628 00:38:01,487 --> 00:38:03,739 ‎即使最长连线时间限制设定与否 629 00:38:03,823 --> 00:38:07,326 ‎与个人信息外泄 ‎没有因果关系也无所谓 630 00:38:09,078 --> 00:38:10,705 ‎无论两者之间有无因果关系 631 00:38:10,788 --> 00:38:13,874 ‎罗温都是罚款的处分对象 632 00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:17,003 ‎-什么? ‎-没有因果关系也无所谓? 633 00:38:18,421 --> 00:38:19,547 ‎为什么这么说呢? 634 00:38:19,630 --> 00:38:21,757 ‎因为黑客攻击罗温服务器 635 00:38:21,841 --> 00:38:26,095 ‎使用户个人信息外泄 ‎发生在2022年1月19日 636 00:38:26,929 --> 00:38:28,222 ‎当时《信息通信网法》 637 00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:29,765 ‎已经进行了部分修订 638 00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:35,187 ‎《促进信息通信网使用 ‎与信息保护等相关条例》 639 00:38:35,271 --> 00:38:38,107 ‎第64条之3 第一项第六号 640 00:38:39,108 --> 00:38:41,235 ‎修订前如下… 641 00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:43,404 ‎“未设置个人信息保护措施 642 00:38:43,487 --> 00:38:44,572 ‎导致用户个人信息 643 00:38:44,655 --> 00:38:47,533 ‎遗失、遭窃、外泄 ‎伪造、变造或损毁之状况” 644 00:38:48,242 --> 00:38:49,327 ‎没错 645 00:38:49,994 --> 00:38:52,496 ‎那么修订后的内容你也知道吗? 646 00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:53,873 ‎“用户个人信息 647 00:38:53,956 --> 00:38:56,584 ‎遗失、遭窃、外泄 ‎伪造、变造或损毁时 648 00:38:56,667 --> 00:38:58,794 ‎未设置个人信息保护措施之状况” 649 00:39:03,090 --> 00:39:04,842 ‎这有什么不一样吗? 650 00:39:05,509 --> 00:39:08,095 ‎不就只是语序改变而已吗? 651 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:09,263 ‎不是的 652 00:39:09,889 --> 00:39:10,890 ‎修订前的意思 653 00:39:10,973 --> 00:39:14,101 ‎是在未设置个人信息 ‎保护措施的前提下 654 00:39:14,185 --> 00:39:16,812 ‎导致用户个人信息外泄时 655 00:39:16,896 --> 00:39:19,106 ‎须处以罚款 656 00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:23,527 ‎也就是个人信息外泄的原因 ‎必须是无作为 657 00:39:23,611 --> 00:39:26,447 ‎反之 修订后的法条意思是 658 00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:28,908 ‎在用户个人信息外泄的状况当中 659 00:39:29,658 --> 00:39:33,037 ‎若未设置个人信息保护措施 660 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,039 ‎则须处以罚款 661 00:39:35,831 --> 00:39:39,794 ‎因此只要个人信息外泄的结果 ‎与无作为的事实成立 662 00:39:39,877 --> 00:39:42,588 ‎两者之间就不需要具备因果关系 663 00:39:52,598 --> 00:39:54,975 ‎被告代理人说得没错 664 00:39:55,935 --> 00:40:00,731 ‎以后合议庭对法律条文的 ‎解读会更加谨慎 665 00:40:06,487 --> 00:40:07,321 ‎庭上 666 00:40:12,034 --> 00:40:15,079 ‎现在每天都有几百万名用户 ‎退出罗温的会员 667 00:40:15,704 --> 00:40:17,915 ‎正在准备集体诉讼的论坛 668 00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:20,668 ‎也已经超过一千万人参与 669 00:40:20,751 --> 00:40:23,629 ‎我们的用户日渐减少 ‎损害赔偿金额却越来越高 670 00:40:25,005 --> 00:40:27,466 ‎你们还要判三千亿韩元罚款? 671 00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:31,303 ‎没设定闲置逾时 ‎真的错得那么离谱吗? 672 00:40:31,387 --> 00:40:32,263 ‎我们真的… 673 00:40:35,474 --> 00:40:36,559 ‎我们真的 674 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,520 ‎一定要付出这么大的代价吗? 675 00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:42,064 ‎请你先冷静 676 00:40:42,148 --> 00:40:45,359 ‎没有任何一家公司 ‎比罗温更致力于满足顾客 677 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,405 ‎黑客故意要攻击 ‎我们怎么可能阻挡得了? 678 00:40:50,406 --> 00:40:52,491 ‎如果罗温被冠上泄漏全国民 679 00:40:52,575 --> 00:40:54,869 ‎个人信息的污名 就这么被摧毁… 680 00:40:56,787 --> 00:40:58,205 ‎我会很不甘心 681 00:40:59,039 --> 00:40:59,957 ‎我… 682 00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:02,751 ‎我真的… 683 00:41:04,044 --> 00:41:05,087 ‎咽不下这口气 684 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:13,596 ‎裴仁哲 685 00:41:18,517 --> 00:41:19,977 ‎喂 你吞了什么? 686 00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:21,896 ‎混账 你给我吐出来 喂 裴仁哲 687 00:41:21,979 --> 00:41:23,689 ‎你在搞什么?怎么了?仁哲 688 00:41:31,697 --> 00:41:32,740 ‎仁哲! 689 00:41:34,408 --> 00:41:35,534 ‎快帮帮忙! 690 00:41:36,535 --> 00:41:37,369 ‎仁哲 691 00:41:37,953 --> 00:41:38,787 ‎裴仁哲 692 00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:42,791 ‎谁快来帮帮忙 693 00:41:42,875 --> 00:41:44,418 ‎你赶快去帮忙 快点 694 00:41:46,795 --> 00:41:47,671 ‎-仁哲 ‎-前辈 695 00:41:47,755 --> 00:41:49,298 ‎混账 你快吐出来 696 00:41:49,381 --> 00:41:51,467 ‎有没有人可以来帮帮忙? 697 00:41:51,550 --> 00:41:52,760 ‎快帮忙叫救护车! 698 00:41:52,843 --> 00:41:53,677 ‎喂 仁哲 699 00:41:53,761 --> 00:41:55,012 ‎他还好吗? 700 00:41:55,095 --> 00:41:57,097 ‎快来帮帮忙! 701 00:41:58,057 --> 00:42:00,768 ‎仁哲… 702 00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:24,917 ‎我们已经帮他做了急救措施 703 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,795 ‎接下来会持续观察他的状况 704 00:42:27,878 --> 00:42:30,756 ‎好 我可以再多待一会吗? 705 00:42:31,257 --> 00:42:33,467 ‎他爸妈都还没来 706 00:42:34,969 --> 00:42:37,513 ‎我不放心留他一个人在这里 707 00:42:38,097 --> 00:42:40,975 ‎这里还有我和其他护士会照顾他 708 00:42:41,642 --> 00:42:45,062 ‎当然 探病时间还没结束 ‎你可以再待一会儿 709 00:42:55,573 --> 00:42:58,993 ‎(加护病房) 710 00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:03,205 ‎请问裴仁哲先生的状况怎么样了? 711 00:43:03,872 --> 00:43:06,500 ‎你们是他的律师对吧? 712 00:43:07,251 --> 00:43:09,753 ‎目前我们已经帮他开了解毒剂 713 00:43:09,837 --> 00:43:12,881 ‎但他服下了大量氰化钾 714 00:43:12,965 --> 00:43:15,509 ‎所以复原状况还要持续观察 715 00:43:16,218 --> 00:43:18,804 ‎详细状况我会等他家属来了再作说明 716 00:43:18,887 --> 00:43:20,014 ‎谢谢 717 00:43:22,975 --> 00:43:25,394 ‎浚浩 你说外面很多记者对吧? 718 00:43:25,477 --> 00:43:26,478 ‎对 719 00:43:27,062 --> 00:43:30,858 ‎那你可能要先去把车开到正门 720 00:43:30,941 --> 00:43:33,819 ‎让我们能立刻上车 别被记者拦住 721 00:43:33,902 --> 00:43:34,903 ‎好 我知道了 722 00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:39,617 ‎我们也走吧 723 00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:40,618 ‎好 724 00:43:50,377 --> 00:43:52,963 ‎那些记者都在等我们吗? 725 00:43:53,964 --> 00:43:57,676 ‎他们应该是想知道 ‎罗温的代表是生是死吧 726 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,137 ‎这种时候我们该怎么做? 727 00:44:00,804 --> 00:44:01,972 ‎还能怎么做? 728 00:44:02,056 --> 00:44:03,974 ‎当然要三缄其口 什么都不能讲 729 00:44:04,892 --> 00:44:05,768 ‎好了 730 00:44:06,602 --> 00:44:07,561 ‎走吧 731 00:44:07,645 --> 00:44:09,146 ‎嗯?好 732 00:44:21,325 --> 00:44:22,951 ‎你们是罗温的律师吧? 733 00:44:23,035 --> 00:44:24,161 ‎请问裴仁哲状况如何? 734 00:44:24,244 --> 00:44:25,954 ‎下次开庭是什么时候? 735 00:44:26,038 --> 00:44:27,998 ‎请问裴仁哲先生是真的服毒了吗? 736 00:44:28,082 --> 00:44:30,250 ‎他是怎么将毒药带进法庭的? 737 00:44:30,334 --> 00:44:33,045 ‎请问裴仁哲先生服下的是什么毒药? 738 00:44:33,128 --> 00:44:35,005 ‎-麻烦说句话好吗? ‎-请问他清醒了吗? 739 00:44:35,089 --> 00:44:36,507 ‎快上车! 740 00:44:36,590 --> 00:44:38,717 ‎不好意思 借过一下 不好意思 741 00:44:38,801 --> 00:44:41,595 ‎-不好意思 ‎-不好意思 请你们让开 742 00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:42,930 ‎-借过 ‎-借过一下 743 00:44:43,013 --> 00:44:44,848 ‎-请你们说明一下 ‎-张律师呢? 744 00:44:44,932 --> 00:44:48,394 ‎-他… ‎-快上车 快点!快来! 745 00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:52,481 ‎-等等 喂 他怎么… ‎-嗯? 746 00:44:52,564 --> 00:44:54,066 ‎-嗯? ‎-开车 747 00:44:54,149 --> 00:44:55,567 ‎那其他律师怎么办? 748 00:44:55,651 --> 00:44:58,529 ‎他们没希望了 赶快开车! 749 00:45:00,572 --> 00:45:02,366 ‎-我们呢? ‎-我们还在这里! 750 00:45:02,449 --> 00:45:03,826 ‎张胜准律师! 751 00:45:03,909 --> 00:45:04,785 ‎李浚浩! 752 00:45:04,868 --> 00:45:05,869 ‎我们要怎么办? 753 00:45:09,206 --> 00:45:10,416 ‎太卑鄙了 754 00:45:10,499 --> 00:45:12,334 ‎-我们快走 ‎-他背叛了我们 755 00:45:12,418 --> 00:45:13,836 ‎拜托借过一下 756 00:45:13,919 --> 00:45:14,878 ‎拜托! 757 00:45:14,962 --> 00:45:16,839 ‎谢谢 758 00:45:29,726 --> 00:45:30,769 ‎叩叩 759 00:45:32,729 --> 00:45:35,566 ‎来 下酒菜来了 760 00:45:39,653 --> 00:45:42,531 ‎不过这里的客人怎么只有我们? 761 00:45:42,614 --> 00:45:44,908 ‎这样才能方便你们谈话啊 762 00:45:44,992 --> 00:45:48,662 ‎算是我给熟客的特别待遇 763 00:45:49,955 --> 00:45:51,748 ‎除了她 这里本来就没客人 764 00:45:51,832 --> 00:45:53,292 ‎太奇怪了吧 765 00:45:55,210 --> 00:45:56,795 ‎你的料理都很好吃啊 766 00:45:56,879 --> 00:45:58,589 ‎尤其是这个鱼板汤 767 00:45:58,672 --> 00:46:00,174 ‎-天啊 毛怪老板 ‎-嗯? 768 00:46:00,257 --> 00:46:02,301 ‎他说你的鱼板汤好喝 欢呼声! 769 00:46:02,968 --> 00:46:04,094 ‎那这就请你们吃 770 00:46:04,636 --> 00:46:06,555 ‎老板请的比菜单上更贵 771 00:46:06,638 --> 00:46:07,681 ‎我再去准备多一点 772 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:09,641 ‎他乐歪了 773 00:46:10,225 --> 00:46:11,185 ‎那个… 774 00:46:18,775 --> 00:46:23,447 ‎对了 张胜准律师 ‎单独找你去说了什么? 775 00:46:24,156 --> 00:46:25,324 ‎你说上次啊? 776 00:46:26,825 --> 00:46:28,619 ‎没什么啊 777 00:46:29,411 --> 00:46:30,245 ‎真的吗? 778 00:46:30,746 --> 00:46:33,707 ‎我还以为你们河那大学的聚在一起 ‎是想策划什么阴谋 779 00:46:33,790 --> 00:46:37,044 ‎天啊 崔秀妍律师 ‎你有很严重的偏见耶 780 00:46:37,127 --> 00:46:39,838 ‎难道首尔大学的 ‎聚在一起就是集思广益 781 00:46:39,922 --> 00:46:41,924 ‎河那大学的聚在一起 ‎就是图谋不轨吗? 782 00:46:42,007 --> 00:46:44,009 ‎你扯到哪里去了? 783 00:46:44,092 --> 00:46:44,927 ‎是你先… 784 00:46:45,010 --> 00:46:47,387 ‎因果关系是法律的大原则 785 00:46:48,514 --> 00:46:49,932 ‎你在讲案件的事吗? 786 00:46:50,516 --> 00:46:52,935 ‎“《刑法》第17条 因果关系 787 00:46:53,018 --> 00:46:56,563 ‎任何与引发危险 ‎构成犯罪要素无关之行为 788 00:46:56,647 --> 00:46:58,857 ‎皆不因结果予以责罚” 789 00:46:58,941 --> 00:47:01,777 ‎这其实不只适用于《刑法》 ‎《民法》也一样啊 790 00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:04,363 ‎那行政处罚也应该这样才对 791 00:47:04,446 --> 00:47:06,240 ‎罗温的行为与个人信息外泄 792 00:47:06,323 --> 00:47:09,493 ‎不存在因果关系 ‎却还要处以高额罚款 793 00:47:09,576 --> 00:47:11,370 ‎这样不符合法律的大原则 794 00:47:11,453 --> 00:47:14,831 ‎可是就算我们这样主张 795 00:47:14,915 --> 00:47:16,416 ‎只要对造律师说这场诉讼 796 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:18,835 ‎不是为了讨论 ‎《信息通信网法》的合理性 797 00:47:18,919 --> 00:47:20,754 ‎那我们也无法反驳啊 798 00:47:20,837 --> 00:47:23,006 ‎我们又不是要申请法律违宪审查 799 00:47:23,715 --> 00:47:24,758 ‎对啊 800 00:47:24,841 --> 00:47:27,135 ‎那个黑客怎么偏偏挑那天攻击啊? 801 00:47:27,219 --> 00:47:29,888 ‎要是早个一天 就只会是怠金处分 802 00:47:32,516 --> 00:47:34,017 ‎“早个一天”? 803 00:47:48,282 --> 00:47:49,241 ‎《信息通信网法》 804 00:47:49,324 --> 00:47:51,618 ‎第64条之3 第一项第六号 805 00:47:51,702 --> 00:47:53,745 ‎于2022年1月19日修订 806 00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:57,249 ‎黑客入侵罗温服务器 ‎窃取用户个人信息 807 00:47:57,332 --> 00:47:59,126 ‎也是在2022年1月19日 808 00:47:59,209 --> 00:48:01,169 ‎嗯 然后呢?怎么样? 809 00:48:01,253 --> 00:48:04,172 ‎黑客发电子邮件 ‎给崔振表先生时是几月几日? 810 00:48:05,882 --> 00:48:09,720 ‎是2022年1月18日晚上11点14分 811 00:48:09,803 --> 00:48:13,181 ‎而崔振表先生看到信件后 ‎下载附加档案的时间 812 00:48:13,265 --> 00:48:16,476 ‎是2022年1月18日晚上11点48分 813 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,729 ‎等等 所以… 814 00:48:19,313 --> 00:48:20,397 ‎黑客攻击开始的时间 815 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,026 ‎是在《信息通信网法》修订的前一天 816 00:48:28,655 --> 00:48:33,243 ‎你这是在开什么玩笑? 817 00:48:33,327 --> 00:48:36,455 ‎审判长已经不是很喜欢我们了 818 00:48:36,538 --> 00:48:39,333 ‎你还要我拿这种 ‎荒谬的歪理去法庭上讲? 819 00:48:39,958 --> 00:48:41,960 ‎这不是荒谬的歪理 820 00:48:42,044 --> 00:48:44,796 ‎根据《行政基本法》 ‎第14条第一项规定 821 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,506 ‎当事人可以请求依据 822 00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:48,675 ‎违规行为当下的法律进行处分 823 00:48:51,136 --> 00:48:55,682 ‎我也知道《行政基本法》第14条 824 00:48:56,266 --> 00:48:58,226 ‎但那只适用于 825 00:48:58,310 --> 00:49:02,522 ‎在新订法条生效前 ‎完成或结束的事实关系 826 00:49:03,523 --> 00:49:04,900 ‎而以罗温的状况来说 827 00:49:04,983 --> 00:49:08,695 ‎或许黑客攻击的开始时间 ‎是在新法生效前 828 00:49:09,196 --> 00:49:13,617 ‎但个人信息外泄的行为 ‎却是结束于新法生效后 829 00:49:14,201 --> 00:49:15,077 ‎不是吗? 830 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,788 ‎但这还是有讨论的空间 831 00:49:17,871 --> 00:49:20,957 ‎根据《行政基本法》第14条第三项 832 00:49:21,041 --> 00:49:23,543 ‎即使案件适用修订前的旧法 833 00:49:23,627 --> 00:49:26,254 ‎但若依据新法裁处可以减轻处分强度 834 00:49:26,338 --> 00:49:28,215 ‎那么该案件就适用新法 835 00:49:28,298 --> 00:49:31,385 ‎以罗温的案件来说 ‎依据修订前的旧法裁处 836 00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:33,220 ‎对原告比较有利 837 00:49:33,303 --> 00:49:35,806 ‎因此可能根据审判长的判断 ‎有一些弹性的… 838 00:49:35,889 --> 00:49:37,307 ‎真是的 我叫你别再说了! 839 00:49:44,314 --> 00:49:45,524 ‎禹英禑律师 840 00:49:46,233 --> 00:49:49,111 ‎你这么了解法律吗? 841 00:49:50,028 --> 00:49:52,656 ‎你凭什么教我怎么做啊? 842 00:49:53,949 --> 00:49:56,034 ‎既然你这么厉害 就自己处理吧! 843 00:50:04,209 --> 00:50:06,795 ‎从今天起 禹英禑律师 ‎不用参与这桩案件了 844 00:50:13,677 --> 00:50:15,971 ‎你还站在这干吗?马上给我出去! 845 00:50:21,476 --> 00:50:23,186 ‎等一下 张胜准律师 846 00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:24,438 ‎你又想说什么? 847 00:50:24,521 --> 00:50:26,732 ‎对!我是张胜准 怎样? 848 00:50:27,399 --> 00:50:28,567 ‎没事 849 00:50:29,151 --> 00:50:30,360 ‎我们先出去了 850 00:50:30,944 --> 00:50:31,945 ‎再怎么… 851 00:50:41,163 --> 00:50:42,205 ‎你干吗? 852 00:50:42,289 --> 00:50:44,124 ‎你这么想奉承他就自己去 853 00:50:44,207 --> 00:50:46,585 ‎干吗还不让我说话? 854 00:50:46,668 --> 00:50:49,171 ‎我们以后要共事的资深律师 855 00:50:49,254 --> 00:50:50,964 ‎不是每个都像郑明锡律师一样 856 00:50:51,465 --> 00:50:53,133 ‎我们也要学着配合他们的处事风格 857 00:50:53,216 --> 00:50:54,968 ‎要学你自己去学 858 00:50:55,051 --> 00:50:56,970 ‎现在英禑都莫名其妙被赶走了 859 00:50:57,053 --> 00:50:59,014 ‎我们跟禹英禑律师不一样 860 00:50:59,681 --> 00:51:00,640 ‎这点你还不懂吗? 861 00:51:01,349 --> 00:51:02,476 ‎你说什么? 862 00:51:03,018 --> 00:51:04,060 ‎禹英禑律师 863 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,521 ‎她是天才 864 00:51:08,482 --> 00:51:11,318 ‎她就算因为一意孤行 ‎被排除在案件之外 865 00:51:11,401 --> 00:51:14,070 ‎大家也会理解她 ‎认为那是天才怪胎的执着 866 00:51:14,154 --> 00:51:15,864 ‎但我们不一样 867 00:51:15,947 --> 00:51:17,657 ‎我们要是跟她一样固执 868 00:51:17,741 --> 00:51:19,701 ‎就只会被认为是 ‎无法迎合前辈的问题人物 869 00:51:19,785 --> 00:51:22,078 ‎被当成难以共事的后辈 870 00:51:27,334 --> 00:51:28,752 ‎你说的都对 871 00:51:30,337 --> 00:51:32,756 ‎虽然很令人气愤 但你说的都对 872 00:51:35,175 --> 00:51:38,762 ‎可是哪怕一下子也好 ‎你就不能当一次傻瓜吗? 873 00:51:42,849 --> 00:51:43,934 ‎傻瓜? 874 00:51:44,518 --> 00:51:46,019 ‎为了你的同事 875 00:51:46,102 --> 00:51:47,771 ‎为了你觉得正确的事 876 00:51:47,854 --> 00:51:49,689 ‎你就不能稍微放下那些钩心斗角 877 00:51:49,773 --> 00:51:51,566 ‎像个傻瓜勇敢一次吗? 878 00:51:51,650 --> 00:51:52,526 ‎我… 879 00:51:53,151 --> 00:51:55,028 ‎我为什么要这样做? 880 00:51:55,111 --> 00:51:56,363 ‎因为… 881 00:52:00,408 --> 00:52:02,244 ‎我喜欢那种男人 882 00:52:52,377 --> 00:52:53,461 ‎禹律师 883 00:52:55,714 --> 00:52:56,673 ‎是 884 00:52:59,426 --> 00:53:00,969 ‎为什么我们不能在一起? 885 00:53:03,388 --> 00:53:05,390 ‎我们到底为什么要分手? 886 00:53:07,392 --> 00:53:09,144 ‎我想了又想 887 00:53:11,688 --> 00:53:13,481 ‎但就是想不通 888 00:53:21,323 --> 00:53:22,407 ‎我… 889 00:53:24,910 --> 00:53:28,788 ‎不确定自己是不是能够 890 00:53:28,872 --> 00:53:30,373 ‎带给你幸福 891 00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:35,086 ‎我觉得自己好像只是个 ‎需要你照顾的人 892 00:53:39,966 --> 00:53:41,217 ‎你是不是… 893 00:53:44,888 --> 00:53:47,098 ‎听到我姐姐 894 00:53:48,433 --> 00:53:49,684 ‎对我说的话了? 895 00:53:52,938 --> 00:53:54,397 ‎是这个原因吗? 896 00:53:58,026 --> 00:53:59,569 ‎禹律师 897 00:54:01,029 --> 00:54:03,281 ‎我只要跟你待在一起就很幸福 898 00:54:04,074 --> 00:54:07,452 ‎如果我要幸福 就不能没有你 899 00:54:09,621 --> 00:54:11,623 ‎可是你跟我在一起的时候 900 00:54:12,457 --> 00:54:14,417 ‎都没有觉得孤单过吗? 901 00:54:20,882 --> 00:54:24,177 ‎我的世界总是会以自我为中心 902 00:54:25,303 --> 00:54:28,098 ‎所以经常让身边的人感到孤单 903 00:54:29,808 --> 00:54:33,687 ‎让别人孤单的时候 我甚至毫无自觉 904 00:54:34,896 --> 00:54:37,649 ‎也不知道该怎么做才能避免那种情况 905 00:54:39,150 --> 00:54:40,235 ‎我… 906 00:54:42,529 --> 00:54:44,406 ‎虽然喜欢你 907 00:54:47,450 --> 00:54:48,868 ‎但是 908 00:54:50,412 --> 00:54:52,872 ‎我没有把握能让你 909 00:54:54,833 --> 00:54:56,001 ‎不感到孤单 910 00:55:35,290 --> 00:55:36,624 ‎你在那里干吗? 911 00:55:37,208 --> 00:55:39,044 ‎我想说跟英禑打声招呼再走 912 00:55:39,127 --> 00:55:40,045 ‎打招呼? 913 00:55:40,962 --> 00:55:43,089 ‎你是想提醒她我们要丢下她 ‎自己去开庭吗? 914 00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:46,384 ‎你要走就快走 别管我要不要打招呼 915 00:55:47,135 --> 00:55:49,179 ‎赶快出来 拖拖拉拉的小心迟到 916 00:55:54,726 --> 00:55:55,643 ‎请进 917 00:55:58,146 --> 00:55:59,022 ‎禹英禑 918 00:56:00,523 --> 00:56:03,109 ‎我出发了 今天罗温的官司要开庭 919 00:56:05,361 --> 00:56:06,196 ‎好 920 00:56:07,113 --> 00:56:09,032 ‎要不要顺便帮你买点什么回来? 921 00:56:09,115 --> 00:56:11,826 ‎今天别吃禹英禑饭卷了 ‎吃崔秀妍饭卷如何? 922 00:56:12,452 --> 00:56:14,204 ‎没有崔秀妍饭卷吧 923 00:56:16,372 --> 00:56:17,373 ‎是没有 924 00:56:18,166 --> 00:56:19,042 ‎那我走了 925 00:56:20,001 --> 00:56:21,044 ‎嗯 926 00:57:30,780 --> 00:57:32,365 ‎加上被害人们 927 00:57:33,241 --> 00:57:37,036 ‎目前正在准备大规模的 ‎损害赔偿请求诉讼 928 00:57:37,579 --> 00:57:41,624 ‎这无疑对原告造成了 ‎难以承受的精神压力 929 00:57:42,167 --> 00:57:43,293 ‎当然 930 00:57:43,376 --> 00:57:46,045 ‎基于个人信息外泄案件 931 00:57:46,129 --> 00:57:48,423 ‎必须同时负公法及私法责任的特性… 932 00:57:48,506 --> 00:57:50,967 ‎私法的重音要放在后面 933 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,679 ‎什么? 934 00:57:54,762 --> 00:57:56,931 ‎提到公法、私法的时候 935 00:57:57,015 --> 00:57:59,309 ‎私法的重音要放在后面 936 00:57:59,392 --> 00:58:03,021 ‎你那么说会变成截然不同的意思 937 00:58:03,813 --> 00:58:04,981 ‎好的 938 00:58:05,064 --> 00:58:06,399 ‎继续吧 939 00:58:07,317 --> 00:58:08,526 ‎是 940 00:58:09,694 --> 00:58:10,904 ‎我刚才说… 941 00:58:13,239 --> 00:58:14,073 ‎没事 942 00:58:14,157 --> 00:58:15,408 ‎不好意思 943 00:58:15,492 --> 00:58:17,327 ‎我会修正我的说法 944 00:58:37,096 --> 00:58:38,056 ‎不好意思 945 00:58:40,266 --> 00:58:41,184 ‎庭上 946 00:58:41,267 --> 00:58:42,519 ‎《信息通信网法》 947 00:58:42,602 --> 00:58:44,979 ‎第64条之3 第一项第六号 948 00:58:45,063 --> 00:58:48,441 ‎经过修订后 于2022年1月19日生效 949 00:58:48,525 --> 00:58:52,195 ‎而黑客也是在同一天 ‎入侵原告的服务器 950 00:58:52,278 --> 00:58:55,365 ‎但黑客将含有恶意程序码的电子邮件 951 00:58:55,448 --> 00:58:57,825 ‎发送给资料库管理员崔振表 952 00:58:57,909 --> 00:59:01,037 ‎则是在前一天的2022年1月18日 953 00:59:02,163 --> 00:59:03,164 ‎所以呢? 954 00:59:03,665 --> 00:59:06,167 ‎你想表达什么? 955 00:59:06,251 --> 00:59:07,835 ‎黑客攻击的行为 956 00:59:07,919 --> 00:59:10,964 ‎是始于《信息通信网法》 ‎修订版生效的前一天 957 00:59:16,803 --> 00:59:20,390 ‎“于新订法条生效前 958 00:59:20,473 --> 00:59:24,102 ‎完成或结束之事实关系 ‎不适用新订法条” 959 00:59:24,185 --> 00:59:26,437 ‎根据此《行政基本法》第14条之规定 960 00:59:26,521 --> 00:59:27,730 ‎原告 961 00:59:27,814 --> 00:59:29,857 ‎应适用修订前的《信息通信网法》 962 00:59:29,941 --> 00:59:32,610 ‎属于怠金处分对象 而非罚款 963 00:59:33,570 --> 00:59:35,238 ‎崔秀妍律师 你在做什么? 964 00:59:35,321 --> 00:59:36,906 ‎你没看到我在进行最终结辩吗? 965 00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:40,243 ‎好了 你以为这样做 ‎禹律师就会开心吗? 966 00:59:40,326 --> 00:59:41,703 ‎我不是为了英禑 967 00:59:41,786 --> 00:59:43,288 ‎而是我觉得应该这么做 968 00:59:43,371 --> 00:59:48,710 ‎庭上 黑客攻击的行为 ‎或许是始于1月18日 969 00:59:48,793 --> 00:59:52,088 ‎但个人信息外泄则是在1月19日发生 970 00:59:52,171 --> 00:59:55,425 ‎也就是修订版 ‎《信息通信网法》生效后 971 00:59:55,508 --> 00:59:57,760 ‎请问被告代理人是用什么基准 972 00:59:57,844 --> 01:00:00,555 ‎来区分黑客攻击 ‎与个人信息外泄的界线? 973 01:00:00,638 --> 01:00:04,392 ‎窃贼入侵家中那一刻 ‎不就已经开始窃盗行为了吗? 974 01:00:04,475 --> 01:00:05,893 ‎崔秀妍 975 01:00:05,977 --> 01:00:08,605 ‎你再多讲一句话 ‎我就让你退出这桩案件 听懂没? 976 01:00:09,647 --> 01:00:13,443 ‎庭上 原告代理人所提出的辩驳依据 977 01:00:13,526 --> 01:00:15,695 ‎《行政基本法》第14条 978 01:00:16,487 --> 01:00:18,364 ‎仅适用于 979 01:00:18,448 --> 01:00:22,869 ‎在新订法条生效前 ‎完成或结束之事实关系 980 01:00:22,952 --> 01:00:24,954 ‎审判长不应考虑黑客攻击时间点 981 01:00:25,580 --> 01:00:29,584 ‎请以个人信息外泄结束的时间点 ‎为基准进行裁决 982 01:00:29,667 --> 01:00:30,501 ‎庭… 983 01:00:31,169 --> 01:00:32,211 ‎放开我 984 01:00:32,295 --> 01:00:35,548 ‎根据《行政基本法》第14条第三项 985 01:00:35,632 --> 01:00:37,467 ‎即使案件适用修订前的旧法 986 01:00:37,550 --> 01:00:40,053 ‎但若依据新法裁处能减轻处分强度 987 01:00:40,136 --> 01:00:42,138 ‎那么该案件就适用新法 988 01:00:43,306 --> 01:00:44,515 ‎就本案而言 989 01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:46,267 ‎采用修订前之旧法 990 01:00:46,351 --> 01:00:47,894 ‎对原告较为有利 991 01:00:48,519 --> 01:00:51,522 ‎所谓罪疑唯轻原则 992 01:00:51,606 --> 01:00:54,484 ‎并非只适用于《刑法》 993 01:00:55,318 --> 01:00:56,944 ‎恳请审判长以宽大的胸怀 994 01:00:57,028 --> 01:00:59,614 ‎体谅原告的难处 995 01:01:11,250 --> 01:01:13,127 ‎真是有趣的论点 996 01:01:13,795 --> 01:01:16,631 ‎本庭会审慎考虑再行判决 997 01:01:21,469 --> 01:01:22,470 ‎谢谢审判长 998 01:01:23,012 --> 01:01:24,097 ‎我方陈述完毕 999 01:01:46,994 --> 01:01:48,621 ‎(禹英禑饭卷) 1000 01:01:48,705 --> 01:01:51,958 ‎汪洋员工的会员卡可以入住 1001 01:01:52,041 --> 01:01:53,751 ‎全国各地的一些度假村 1002 01:01:53,835 --> 01:01:55,795 ‎你们可以选择任何想去的地方 1003 01:01:56,754 --> 01:01:59,340 ‎你就带着英禑 ‎去好好休息一、两个月吧 1004 01:01:59,966 --> 01:02:01,551 ‎就当作是放有薪假 1005 01:02:04,429 --> 01:02:06,305 ‎真的非这么做不可吗? 1006 01:02:06,889 --> 01:02:08,933 ‎目前我还能挡下来 1007 01:02:10,226 --> 01:02:12,311 ‎但只要新闻一曝光 1008 01:02:12,395 --> 01:02:14,439 ‎那些记者一定也会来围堵禹律师 1009 01:02:16,441 --> 01:02:19,026 ‎你们就先去避避风头吧 1010 01:02:19,110 --> 01:02:21,237 ‎等风波过去再让她回汪洋复职就好 1011 01:02:24,031 --> 01:02:25,032 ‎复职? 1012 01:02:26,993 --> 01:02:28,661 ‎把她是太守美私生女的事 1013 01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:31,706 ‎昭告天下后再让她回汪洋复职? 1014 01:02:33,332 --> 01:02:37,503 ‎她带着这种标签 ‎还有办法好好工作吗? 1015 01:02:39,881 --> 01:02:41,048 ‎不是啊 1016 01:02:42,633 --> 01:02:44,719 ‎你明明说过可以允许一次的 1017 01:02:46,471 --> 01:02:49,599 ‎你说会给我一次 ‎利用禹律师来打击太守美的机会 1018 01:02:50,266 --> 01:02:51,893 ‎当初你说这是我给她工作的代价 1019 01:02:51,976 --> 01:02:53,561 ‎现在为什么反悔了? 1020 01:02:57,023 --> 01:02:58,107 ‎宣荣 1021 01:02:59,567 --> 01:03:00,860 ‎没有别的办法了吗? 1022 01:03:02,653 --> 01:03:06,199 ‎除了在媒体上曝光 ‎真的没有其他办法了吗? 1023 01:03:09,535 --> 01:03:11,329 ‎我也考虑过很多次了 1024 01:03:13,581 --> 01:03:15,249 ‎但就目前而言 1025 01:03:16,959 --> 01:03:19,212 ‎这是我能保护你和禹律师的 1026 01:03:20,213 --> 01:03:21,547 ‎最好做法 1027 01:03:46,948 --> 01:03:50,493 ‎因为没有挡下黑客攻击 ‎导致四千万条个人信息外泄的 1028 01:03:50,576 --> 01:03:52,078 ‎电商平台罗温 1029 01:03:52,161 --> 01:03:54,455 ‎向广播通信委员会提告 1030 01:03:54,539 --> 01:03:58,626 ‎请求取消三千亿韩元罚款的 ‎附加处分 获得胜诉 1031 01:03:58,709 --> 01:04:02,338 ‎首尔行政法院认定 ‎由于罗温没有为个人信息处理系统 1032 01:04:02,421 --> 01:04:07,426 ‎设定最长连线时间限制等因素 ‎在访问控制的部分确实有所疏漏 1033 01:04:07,510 --> 01:04:10,888 ‎但考虑到这并非 ‎直接导致个人信息外泄的原因 1034 01:04:10,972 --> 01:04:12,849 ‎因此判定原告胜诉 1035 01:04:12,932 --> 01:04:16,435 ‎另一方面 在开庭时服毒 ‎失去意识倒下的 1036 01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:18,938 ‎罗温共同代表裴仁哲 1037 01:04:19,021 --> 01:04:21,148 ‎送医后持续接受治疗 1038 01:04:21,232 --> 01:04:24,235 ‎但经证实目前仍在昏迷当中 1039 01:04:25,236 --> 01:04:27,280 ‎裴仁哲先生在法庭上控诉 1040 01:04:27,363 --> 01:04:30,825 ‎“没有任何一家公司 ‎比罗温更致力于满足顾客 1041 01:04:30,908 --> 01:04:34,662 ‎黑客故意要攻击 ‎我们怎么可能阻挡得了?” 1042 01:04:34,745 --> 01:04:37,707 ‎表达完心中的不平后 ‎便拿出事先准备的毒药… 1043 01:04:48,426 --> 01:04:51,929 ‎您拨的电话未开机 将转接语音信箱 1044 01:04:52,013 --> 01:04:54,432 ‎哔声后开始计费 1045 01:04:55,516 --> 01:04:58,352 ‎哥 我刚刚看到新闻了 1046 01:04:59,770 --> 01:05:01,314 ‎仁哲哥还没醒吗? 1047 01:05:01,814 --> 01:05:03,274 ‎你不是跟我说他没事 1048 01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:05,735 ‎已经醒过来了吗? 1049 01:05:06,235 --> 01:05:08,446 ‎哥 你接一下我的电话 1050 01:05:08,946 --> 01:05:11,449 ‎别逼我也去黑出你的位置 1051 01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:13,826 ‎快接我… 1052 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,041 ‎怎么了? 1053 01:05:20,833 --> 01:05:21,918 ‎还怎么了? 1054 01:05:22,585 --> 01:05:24,420 ‎妈今天难得早早下班 1055 01:05:24,503 --> 01:05:26,422 ‎一起吃饭吧 快出来 1056 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,407 ‎你为什么要来找我? 1057 01:05:53,491 --> 01:05:55,576 ‎因为我觉得 ‎姐姐不会按照妈妈的指示行事 1058 01:05:55,660 --> 01:05:56,535 ‎“姐姐”? 1059 01:05:56,619 --> 01:06:00,081 ‎我只会对你的决定感到好奇而已 1060 01:06:00,164 --> 01:06:05,044 ‎我去找太守美律师 ‎请她同意让崔尚贤出庭作证 1061 01:06:05,127 --> 01:06:08,339 ‎你要怎么说服太守美律师? 1062 01:06:08,422 --> 01:06:11,217 ‎人事听证会就要开始了 ‎她有可能见你吗? 1063 01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:13,761 ‎对我而言 你不是个好妈妈 1064 01:06:13,844 --> 01:06:15,680 ‎但请你至少 1065 01:06:15,763 --> 01:06:18,099 ‎成为崔尚贤心目中的好妈妈 1066 01:06:18,808 --> 01:06:23,312 ‎字幕翻译:黄荣君