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Here he is.
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Stay low, guys.
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Target is at the place of business now.
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Copy.
-This could go south quickly.
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He's getting out of the car.
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Blue ballcap. Tan short-sleeve shirt.
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Blue jeans, white sneakers.
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Bob, why won't you just come out
and say that you are not D.B. Cooper?
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On Thanksgiving eve, 1971,
a Northwest flight was commandeered…
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The FBI couldn't crack the case…
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Cooper became a legend
after hijacking a plane
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and parachuting out of it
with $200,000 cash.
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…the daredevil thief called D.B. Cooper.
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D.B. Cooper…
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-D.B. Cooper…
-D.B. Cooper…
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-D.B. Cooper…
-D.B. Cooper…
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The most clever and certainly
the most audacious airplane hijacker
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of all time.
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It's incredible to think
we've just passed the 50th anniversary
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of the D.B. Cooper case,
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and it's still
the only unsolved skyjacking
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in the history of our time.
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What he accomplished was truly amazing.
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He got away with it,
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he stuck it to the man,
and he didn't hurt any civilians doing it.
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That is why he is the legend
that he's become today.
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We have eyewitnesses
that have you in Oregon
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at the time of the hijacking.
Were you there?
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My team has no doubt
we have found D.B. Cooper.
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We have over a hundred pieces of evidence.
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We're dealing with a man who has
multiple identities, and is a con artist.
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I'm here because I want the truth out.
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If it hurts, it hurts.
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This case is a marathon.
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It's a sacrifice, it's a gauntlet.
It forces you to question your own sanity.
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It forces you to truly believe
in the impossible.
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Bottom line is, I don't do theories,
I don't do folklore, I don't do legends.
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I do facts.
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Hello?
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A team of cold case investigators
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are convinced that you are
the infamous D.B. Cooper.
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Infamous or famous?
I thought it was famous.
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Okay.
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This ten-year journey is
the longest I've been on a case.
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I just want to share
a question I always get,
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and that is, "Why?"
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Why am I tackling, and my wife too,
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why we tackled a 50-year-old case?
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It's affected my family members.
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I watched my wife and I have frustration.
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I watched my children grow up.
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And we spent a lot of our own money
through the whole thing.
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But everyone agreed in our family
to stick with it,
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because they all believed
we had the truth.
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What Cooper was able
to pull off was really, really difficult,
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and he orchestrated it perfectly.
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Especially when you consider this was
the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
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One of the busiest travel days
of the year.
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Fifty years ago, I was a sophomore
at University of Oregon.
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I had called my parents
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and said, "I got this 37-minute flight
from Portland to Seattle."
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The sun was out, but it was cloudy.
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Walked up the back steps,
sat in the back on the left.
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And I didn't notice anybody around me
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until we took off.
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I noticed the guy sitting next to me…
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had sunglasses on.
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And I thought, "That's kind of different."
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"Who does he think he is?"
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The flight from Portland to Seattle
is a puddle jump.
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There's barely even time to have a drink
on the plane.
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After the plane takes off…
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this strange-looking man
passes a note to the stewardess.
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I just ignored him.
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Then he said,
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"I want you to read the note."
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It was printed,
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"Miss, I have a bomb in my briefcase."
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"I want you to sit beside me."
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This is the beginning
of the extraordinary drama of D.B. Cooper.
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I can remember her talking,
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and then she'd get up and go to the phone.
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But had no clue what was going on.
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He asks for $200,000
in American currency and four parachutes.
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It's one thing to ask for money,
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but parachutes?
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Why does this man want parachutes?
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He was very smart.
He didn't order one or two.
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He ordered four.
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He thought they were gonna
dummy up a parachute on him,
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so he'd die.
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But if he's ordering four,
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"He's taking a hostage.
We can't dummy him up."
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Very smart, brilliant.
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The pilot comes on and says,
"We have engine trouble,
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and we're going to run out the fuel."
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"Everybody can move up
to the front of the plane."
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During that incident,
I didn't know what's going on.
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We're still flying, so there was nothing
to worry about.
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Cooper did not want the jet
to land in Seattle until all the stuff
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was properly staged at the airport,
so the jet had to circle around.
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It's now getting dark.
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This is turning
into a dark and stormy night.
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And once the hijacker knows
that his demands have been met,
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$200,000 in cash,
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about $1,000,000 in today's currency,
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and the parachutes he wants
waiting for him…
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the plane comes down
for a landing in Seattle.
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Snipers are watching the plane.
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Cooper asks the stewardess
to shut the windows.
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The plane goes dark.
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One stewardess comes out,
a detective hands her the big money bag.
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She then goes out for the parachutes,
and all the passengers come off.
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We're a mile away from the terminal,
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so a bus comes and we get on a bus
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and ride back to the airport.
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Thirty-six passengers got
off the jetliner in Seattle last night,
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left aboard, four crew members
and the hijacker.
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And there's probably a hundred
news people out there.
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FBI agents there who are
interviewing everybody.
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Said, "Yeah, you were hijacked."
And so that's the first I'd heard of it.
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The crew kept us ignorant
of what was taking place,
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I guess to avoid a panic.
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And so we really didn't know
what was taking place.
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We cruised around
for two and a half hours up there.
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Nobody knew anything was happening.
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-When did you find out?
-After we landed.
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When they brought the money aboard.
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The hijacker, dressed in a business suit,
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demanding $200,000
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and carrying a plain briefcase
which he told the crew held explosives.
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I saw a big battery
with six dynamite sticks
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wrapped around the battery.
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And he said to me, "All I have to do
is attach this wire to this gadget here,
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and we'll all be dead."
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I got home,
and it started catching up to me.
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The fact that, yeah,
you know, I was sitting next to a bomb.
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In the fall of 1971,
when this hijacking took place,
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the experience of airline travel
was vastly different than it is now.
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Walking into an airport back then
was like walking into a supermarket.
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-Hi.
-Hi.
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-Destination?
-Let's just say, "Where the action is."
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I love when people ask
about airport security back in the 1970s,
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because the answer,
at least in my memory, was,
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"What airport security?"
I don't remember any at all.
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You didn't need metal detectors.
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You didn't have to take off your shoes.
You didn't have dogs smelling you.
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Certainly nobody searched you,
or wanded you, or anything like that.
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You just walked in, put down 20 bucks,
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and got a flight to Dallas.
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That was pretty much it.
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And that is what Cooper did.
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He went and bought a ticket that day.
It was very, very casual.
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Remember, this was the beginning
of the boom of mass air travel.
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They wanted to make
the experience a fun, good time.
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What kind of flying is that?
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A champagne flight.
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But unfortunately, at the time,
the stewardesses became fetishized.
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When a Braniff International
hostess meets you on the airplane…
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she'll be dressed like this.
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In the early '70s,
flight attendants have a really hard time.
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They're sexually harassed constantly.
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They're not paid as much
as the men that they work with.
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They have an impossible schedule.
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They're held to really rigorous
and unfair standards about their looks.
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She's not just pretty. She's pretty smart.
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When D.B. Cooper
passed the stewardess the note,
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he was probably the, like, tenth person
that day to pass her a note.
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At that time,
being a stewardess is difficult,
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and it quickly evolved
into the realm of the dangerous.
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Guerrilla hijack teams struck
four airlines almost simultaneously.
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One ticket agent in Houston, Texas,
is dead, another agent is wounded.
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Aerial piracy is not exactly
a new phenomenon.
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I was in the CIA.
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We would get these reports of hijackings.
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And maybe there'd be a report every month.
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And then it just kept growing
and it kept growing and it kept growing.
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Fifteen Japanese radical students
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armed with samurai swords,
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pistols, and homemade bombs,
hijacked a Japan Airlines jetliner.
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And, of course, those hijackings,
they all had a political goal.
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They were punishing a country,
they were punishing a group.
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They were making themselves bigger
and badder than they actually were.
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What made you think he had a gun?
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He confronted me
with something hard in my back.
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He said, "We're going to Havana, Cuba.
Take me to the cockpit."
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There were only two reasons
that you hijacked a plane.
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You either did it to threaten
to kill people and get money,
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or you wanted to get someplace,
typically Cuba.
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The Cuban ones were
almost all young radicals
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who needed to get out of town.
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What did it turn out to be?
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It turned out to be a metal comb
with a pen on top wrapped with a sweater.
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One of the things about crime,
like any art form, it evolves.
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And so with hijackings,
the art form evolved,
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and the greatest artist
of them all was D.B. Cooper.
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With the full ransom,
collected from Seattle banks,
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and four parachutes aboard,
the plane headed for Reno.
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Cooper looks into the money bag,
he's happy.
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And he has instructions.
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He's asking to fly at 250 miles an hour,
which is slow for a jet,
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with the flaps down, at minimum height.
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Even the pilots didn't know
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the aircraft was capable
of flying that slow and that low.
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And he said, "It can be done, do it."
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They head south over this area
called "the dark divide."
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Tina Mucklow was alone with him
sitting in the last row.
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He was not nervous.
He seemed rather nice, and…
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other than he wanted
certain things to be done.
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At that point, Cooper sent
Tina Mucklow to the cockpit
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and told her not to come out.
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He was in the back all by himself.
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Around 8:12, there was a popping sensation
in the ears of the pilots.
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The pressure in the cabin has changed.
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The aft stairs have gone down.
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I told the air traffic controllers
that our friend just took leave of us.
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To truly appreciate what Cooper did…
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close your eyes and take a step,
and imagine walking down those aft stairs.
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It's late at night, there's a lot of rain.
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You're hearing the engines
of this jet in your ear.
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Imagine looking out
in the middle of the darkness…
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and then walking down
another step and another step…
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and just looking out,
asking yourself the question…
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"When's the time to jump?"
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Well, he either got away
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or else he sure made a big hole
in the ground out there.
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And if he made a hole in the ground,
he's gonna be hard to find.
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By "hole in the ground,"
you mean slammed into a mountainside?
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Right. It's possible
that if his chute didn't open,
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he's taking somewhat of a chance,
I'm sure.
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And if his chute didn't open, why,
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he's going to probably be
pretty hard to find.
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Suppose his chute did open,
you think he landed safely
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and just made a clean getaway?
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Well, at this point, he doesn't appear
to be hung up in any trees.
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At least this is what we're looking for
from the air.
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And so if he did bail out there
and did make a successful landing,
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it's possible that he has succeeded
in hiding his parachute
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and did get away.
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Hundreds of troops
combed the woods near Woodland,
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and east to the town of Ariel,
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but nobody knew where he bailed out,
where he landed, or even if he survived.
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The main problem
that the FBI faced initially
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is they didn't know
exactly where that plane was
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when he exited the plane.
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There were all these variables.
What about the wind?
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"Maybe the wind had you
a little off-course."
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So the terrain that they're searching
would be rather huge.
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Right at this point,
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probably a slim chance
of actually finding him in this area.
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But at least we may develop information
that'll give us leads on where to go next.
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It was from these steps,
the rear of the 727,
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that the FBI believes the skyjacker
used his parachute
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to bail out somewhere
between Seattle and Portland.
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Earlier, it was felt that he perhaps
bailed out somewhere nearer to Reno,
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but all search efforts in this area
now have been discontinued.
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On Thanksgiving Day,
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people all around the world
got wind of the story.
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The man had disappeared.
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The case went from being
a truly phenomenal act of air piracy…
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into an American folk legend.
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When he got on a plane last night,
he was just another passenger.
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But today, after hijacking
a Northwest Airlines jet,
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ransoming the passengers in Seattle,
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then making a getaway by parachute
somewhere between there and Reno,
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the description on one wire service:
master criminal.
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Man, don't you know what that is?
That's Jesse James come back.
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It was a hundred years ago.
Just think it over.
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They kill Lincoln a hundred years ago,
and Kennedy, it's all going back.
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-Do you think he's a hero?
-Oh, sure.
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Why?
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'Cause the guy, evidently, really took
a lot of time to plan the whole thing out.
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And I respect a man
who takes his time to do a job well done.
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He's one of the slickest cats
to ever walk on the face of the Earth.
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The riches in the case,
the details that you just can't make up,
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started with the hijacker's alias.
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D.B. Cooper was not the hijacker.
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In Portland, he gave the name
Dan Cooper to the ticket agent.
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So D.B. Cooper really is Dan Cooper.
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What happened, though,
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is there's an enormous amount
of media attention focused
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on this thing,
and somebody made a mistake.
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The authorities
were going down some log they had,
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and a reporter overheard it
as "D.B. Cooper."
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Dan Cooper became D.B. Cooper
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because of a couple of sloppy reporters.
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Everybody pretty quickly realized
within a day or so, that,
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"No, it's not D.B. Cooper,
it's Dan Cooper."
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But, frankly, D.B. Cooper is
a more bad-ass name than Dan Cooper,
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so D.B. Cooper stuck.
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Thus begins
the D.B. Cooper branding, you know,
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because every folk hero
needs a good brand.
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D.B. Cooper. Oh.
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"Oh, D.B. Who is that?"
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And so D.B. Cooper the skyjacker
dropped out of the air,
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and he landed on Earth as a hero.
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In the Pacific Northwest,
you might even say
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he was a kind of a god.
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The man's beat the system,
so to speak.
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I just think that any time
that a fella's got this much nerve,
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and is successful this far,
that everybody's rooting for him.
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People wrote songs, sold T-shirts,
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all in honor of the first and only man
to get away with hijacking a US plane.
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I do think that D.B. Cooper will live on,
because they never have found him.
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This case is so American.
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You have the underdog hero
sticking it to the man.
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Cooper resurrected this cultural anthem,
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almost going back
to the heroes like Billy the Kid.
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And all the famous bandits
and bank robbers.
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George "Machine Gun" Kelly,
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"Baby Face" Nelson,
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and John Dillinger.
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We prize the outlaw.
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We are fascinated
with those who break the rules
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because 95% of us don't.
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Everybody wants to know
who D.B. Cooper was.
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And as time has gone by,
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it's become this ever-larger mystery.
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The evidence suggests that Cooper
must have had military experience
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to be able to plan
and successfully execute such a crime.
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When we return,
we'll reveal an important new clue
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to the identity of D.B. Cooper.
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At this point, so many people
have played the role of D.B. Cooper.
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There's a lot of different reasons why
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D.B. Cooper has remained so prevalent
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in so many different types
of popular culture.
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You know, like Amelia Earhart,
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we know so little
about what actually happened.
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The Western world
has to have an answer to every question.
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And it's really frustrating to them
when a story doesn't have an ending.
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Doesn't have to be a happy ending,
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but it needs a period
at the end of the sentence.
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The D.B. Cooper case is a prime example
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of a sentence
that's been left uncompleted.
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At this point, there have been
something north of a thousand suspects
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that the FBI has looked at.
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And some of those suspects
have actually been really compelling.
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Richard Floyd McCoy
was an outstanding suspect.
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He was in Vietnam.
He was an expert parachutist.
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McCoy skyjacked another 727
and jumped out
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five or six months after D.B. Cooper.
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But there's one very big problem.
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All the witnesses that saw D.B. Cooper
looked at Richard Floyd McCoy
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and said, "He ain't the guy."
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Duane Weber had a deathbed confession
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and looked like the second sketch.
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And he was living a double life.
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One as a charming insurance salesman,
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the other as a career criminal.
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He was arrested, I think, 16 times,
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but there's absolutely no proof
that he had any parachute training.
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And he was a criminal
that had a hard time staying out of jail.
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And then there is Barb Dayton.
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She confessed to being D.B. Cooper.
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00:23:04,592 --> 00:23:07,470
She had the first sex change operation
in Washington state.
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She used to be Bobby.
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And Bobby was a tough guy, a brawler.
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And Barb was a librarian and sweet.
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It was the ultimate disguise.
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As a man, Bob Dayton
was a guy with a grudge.
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Merchant Marine, he could jump
out of airplanes.
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But the problem is,
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there's absolutely no concrete evidence
that ties Barb Dayton
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in with the D.B. Cooper case whatsoever.
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Some people thought
it was Ken Christiansen.
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He worked for Northwest Orient Airlines.
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00:23:42,297 --> 00:23:44,716
Other people thought
it was Sheridan Peterson.
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Peterson worked at Boeing.
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But for a bunch of technical reasons,
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both of them have been ruled out.
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Even though we still don't know
who Cooper was,
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to me, what's remarkable is actually
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how much people identify with Cooper
50 years later.
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We're in Vancouver, Washington,
at Victor-23.
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This is a D.B. Cooper-themed bar.
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We've got our pilsner Schaffner here,
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our Flight 305 amber here,
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our Skyjacker IPA, our Headless Hijacker,
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and our Jet Fuel IPA.
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And also why people still look
to embed him into film and culture.
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You'd better be ready.
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The far more interesting story
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than just some guy who jumped
out of a plane and disappeared,
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is the fascination with it.
385
00:24:40,146 --> 00:24:42,815
Check out this map.
He pinpointed D.B.'s landing.
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That's crazy.
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00:24:44,943 --> 00:24:47,862
With respect to D.B. Cooper
over the last 50 years,
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00:24:47,946 --> 00:24:52,534
arguably, we are no closer
to knowing who D.B. Cooper was.
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00:24:53,159 --> 00:24:54,244
Oh, look at you.
390
00:24:54,827 --> 00:24:57,497
Should I call the FBI
and tell 'em I found D.B. Cooper?
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Joking.
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00:24:59,666 --> 00:25:04,045
Everybody wants to solve a mystery
that's been unsolved
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by some of the brightest minds
and the best agencies in the country.
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After 50 years,
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the Cooper case is almost a holy grail
of cold cases to solve.
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Good morning, everyone. I'm Tom Colbert.
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I'm the person, with my wife,
Dawna Kay, at the machine in the corner.
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We're the ones
that brought the case forward.
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00:25:29,487 --> 00:25:30,697
We received the tip.
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00:25:33,741 --> 00:25:36,995
For me, the whole thing
started when a friend of mine
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00:25:37,078 --> 00:25:39,038
named Rich Kashanksi called me.
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00:25:39,122 --> 00:25:43,376
I've known Rich for 25 years.
I drop everything when Rich calls.
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00:25:44,836 --> 00:25:48,131
I was in the middle of another project
and I said, "Rich, what's up?"
404
00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:55,054
I was in Vegas.
I was shooting a series of infomercials.
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00:25:55,138 --> 00:25:56,639
And a friend of a friend
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00:25:56,723 --> 00:26:00,435
told me they knew some gambler
who knew who D.B. Cooper was.
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00:26:01,936 --> 00:26:04,772
I rolled my eyes, and he said,
"No, Tom, you need to listen."
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00:26:04,856 --> 00:26:06,316
"I have a guy on camera."
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00:26:06,399 --> 00:26:08,901
I told him, "This guy seems credible
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00:26:09,485 --> 00:26:12,447
and he's willing
to have lie detector tests."
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"It's the only way
that you're gonna believe me,
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00:26:14,532 --> 00:26:16,326
and I'm much willing to do that."
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00:26:17,201 --> 00:26:19,579
I realized if this tip checked out,
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00:26:19,662 --> 00:26:22,457
we would be solving
one of the most high-profile cases
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00:26:22,540 --> 00:26:23,791
in cold-case history.
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00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:28,212
What I found on Ron Carlson's tape
was a game-changer.
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00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,186
The story started with Ron Carlson
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00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:45,897
running drugs up and down the coast
with his fast car.
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00:26:52,528 --> 00:26:57,867
I'm here to tell a story
that I truly believe is factual
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and it concerns D.B. Cooper.
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00:27:02,288 --> 00:27:04,916
I did not meet D.B. Cooper
422
00:27:04,999 --> 00:27:06,709
until 1978.
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00:27:07,335 --> 00:27:09,962
And I met him…
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quite frankly,
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00:27:12,382 --> 00:27:14,884
he was my cocaine supplier.
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00:27:17,553 --> 00:27:19,180
A guy, name of Dick Briggs.
427
00:27:22,058 --> 00:27:23,976
Almost from the time we met…
428
00:27:24,686 --> 00:27:27,855
he was telling us
that he was, in fact, D.B. Cooper.
429
00:27:27,939 --> 00:27:30,233
And he kept saying,
"You don't believe me, do you?
430
00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:32,902
And we ended up being at a party in 1980.
431
00:27:33,653 --> 00:27:39,242
And he says, "I'm gonna tell you something
that will prove to you who I am."
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00:27:39,325 --> 00:27:42,286
He said, "That couple over there."
We said, "Yeah?"
433
00:27:42,370 --> 00:27:47,083
He says, "They and their son…"
They were a hippie-looking couple.
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00:27:47,166 --> 00:27:49,961
"…are the ones
that are going to find my money."
435
00:27:52,046 --> 00:27:55,216
Dick Briggs says,
"On that north shore, in three days,
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00:27:55,717 --> 00:27:57,343
they're gonna find some of my money."
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00:27:57,427 --> 00:27:58,678
Meaning Cooper's money.
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00:27:59,512 --> 00:28:01,431
And that's when I knew, "Whoa."
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00:28:03,433 --> 00:28:04,976
The money was found here,
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just a few yards from the shoreline
of the Columbia river.
441
00:28:07,854 --> 00:28:11,357
I was gonna build a fire,
and I had some wood in my arm.
442
00:28:11,441 --> 00:28:15,027
I got ready to set it down,
and my son ran up and said, "Wait, Daddy."
443
00:28:15,111 --> 00:28:18,281
So he raked a place in the sand there,
and there it was.
444
00:28:18,364 --> 00:28:19,991
It kind of tumbled up on the top.
445
00:28:20,074 --> 00:28:23,202
A child has led the FBI
to the start of a trail
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00:28:23,286 --> 00:28:26,622
it hopes will help them solve
the eight-and-a-half-year-old mystery
447
00:28:26,706 --> 00:28:28,791
of skyjacker D.B. Cooper.
448
00:28:29,792 --> 00:28:31,586
A few days after that party,
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00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:33,421
all of a sudden this news alert come by.
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00:28:34,422 --> 00:28:39,135
And it said that they had found,
I believe it was like $6,000
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00:28:39,218 --> 00:28:40,970
of D.B. Cooper's money.
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00:28:41,053 --> 00:28:44,348
And when they showed
the people who found the money,
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00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:46,684
it was that same couple
that was at the party.
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00:28:48,186 --> 00:28:51,105
In my years of knowing
Brian Ingram and his family,
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00:28:51,189 --> 00:28:55,401
I've seen nothing that would indicate
they had any nefarious connection
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00:28:55,485 --> 00:28:56,319
to the money.
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00:28:56,402 --> 00:28:59,322
So I believe Brian Ingram
is an innocent bystander,
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00:28:59,405 --> 00:29:01,824
along with his family, in the Cooper case.
459
00:29:01,908 --> 00:29:04,827
Though these are the first
pieces of this complex puzzle
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00:29:04,911 --> 00:29:09,165
to surface in all these years,
they are not falling into place easily.
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00:29:09,248 --> 00:29:11,626
Suddenly, 40 years later, we have a guy
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00:29:11,709 --> 00:29:15,087
who claims, basically, that Dick Briggs
planted the money on the beach,
463
00:29:15,171 --> 00:29:18,466
showing that it was set up,
and that Cooper could be alive.
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00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:22,553
And that's when I turned to my wife
and I said, "I think we got a wild one."
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00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:30,853
Dick Briggs was perfectly capable
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00:29:30,937 --> 00:29:33,773
of doing what it took
to hijack this airplane.
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00:29:33,856 --> 00:29:34,982
According to him,
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00:29:35,066 --> 00:29:38,069
he'd been a Special Forces soldier
during the Vietnam War.
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00:29:39,070 --> 00:29:41,447
I mean, he was an accomplished
parachutist.
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He was familiar with the area.
I'm sure he'd planned it out.
471
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I mean, he had the physical
and mental abilities.
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00:29:48,246 --> 00:29:49,664
Very, very intelligent man.
473
00:29:50,206 --> 00:29:52,583
But he was kind of out of control.
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00:29:53,918 --> 00:29:58,130
One of his buddies from college
told me that Dick lost his temper a lot.
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00:29:58,214 --> 00:29:59,674
He felt he was bipolar.
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00:29:59,757 --> 00:30:01,425
He would get angry after a few beers
477
00:30:01,509 --> 00:30:03,719
and throw trash cans
through windows at bars.
478
00:30:03,803 --> 00:30:05,388
A lot of people feared him.
479
00:30:05,471 --> 00:30:08,808
He was a weightlifter,
bench-pressed 425 pounds.
480
00:30:09,892 --> 00:30:13,229
You know, they called him Bugsy
because he was a little squirrelly.
481
00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:16,440
The first time I met Dick Briggs,
482
00:30:16,524 --> 00:30:19,193
my husband offers him a cocktail.
483
00:30:19,277 --> 00:30:22,196
Dick does a straight shot of bourbon
484
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,074
and immediately proceeds to eat the glass.
485
00:30:25,658 --> 00:30:28,411
Blood is dripping down his face.
He's chewing the glass.
486
00:30:30,037 --> 00:30:33,708
According to his family,
Dick Briggs did lots of parlor tricks.
487
00:30:33,791 --> 00:30:37,420
He could take a woman's hat pin,
stick it all the way through his forearm,
488
00:30:37,503 --> 00:30:38,921
pull it out, draw no blood.
489
00:30:40,715 --> 00:30:43,175
One time, we'd gone up to a little town
490
00:30:43,259 --> 00:30:46,888
that, every year,
held an annual D.B. Cooper festival.
491
00:30:49,056 --> 00:30:52,518
All he'd keep saying is, "I just want
to tell these people who I am."
492
00:30:52,602 --> 00:30:54,312
And "They're here for me."
493
00:30:54,395 --> 00:30:55,938
He had that kind of ego
494
00:30:56,022 --> 00:30:58,524
that was necessary to be D.B. Cooper.
495
00:30:58,608 --> 00:31:01,736
I think D.B. is, like,
the coolest guy in America.
496
00:31:16,125 --> 00:31:17,376
-Is it on?
-Yeah.
497
00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:19,462
-Let me get focused.
-Perfect.
498
00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:23,049
When I realized
Dick Briggs could be Cooper,
499
00:31:23,132 --> 00:31:25,384
I started to document the investigation,
500
00:31:25,468 --> 00:31:28,346
so that I could eventually
sell it as a documentary.
501
00:31:30,097 --> 00:31:33,434
When Rich brought me
this drug trafficker, Ron Carlson,
502
00:31:33,517 --> 00:31:37,521
I did due diligence to make sure
he's telling the truth about Dick Briggs.
503
00:31:37,605 --> 00:31:41,400
We interviewed Ron Carlson three times,
once under a lie detector.
504
00:31:42,109 --> 00:31:43,986
Okay, I'm gonna turn the chair.
505
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:47,365
We had FBI agent
Jack Trimarco do the test.
506
00:31:47,448 --> 00:31:49,533
I went to polygraph school
507
00:31:49,617 --> 00:31:52,328
at the Department of Defense
Polygraph Institute
508
00:31:52,411 --> 00:31:54,914
at Fort McClellan, Alabama.
509
00:31:54,997 --> 00:31:59,043
Jack Trimarco is the best of the best
when it comes to polygraph.
510
00:31:59,126 --> 00:32:02,463
He has administered over 3,500 polygraphs.
511
00:32:02,546 --> 00:32:04,590
I'll ask you to lean forward in the chair
512
00:32:04,674 --> 00:32:07,259
and put your arms out in front
like you're gonna dive into a pool.
513
00:32:07,343 --> 00:32:09,261
That's it.
This'll go around your midsection.
514
00:32:10,012 --> 00:32:12,807
Anything that's going on
that's physiological,
515
00:32:12,890 --> 00:32:16,060
that's an anomaly, is gonna come through
loud and clear to me.
516
00:32:16,143 --> 00:32:19,814
Meaning how the body changes
for those few precious seconds…
517
00:32:20,356 --> 00:32:23,484
when a person knows
that they're telling a lie.
518
00:32:24,151 --> 00:32:25,778
The test is about to begin.
519
00:32:29,115 --> 00:32:31,951
Did Dick Briggs ever tell you
that he was D.B. Cooper?
520
00:32:32,576 --> 00:32:33,411
Yes.
521
00:32:35,454 --> 00:32:36,622
For the question,
522
00:32:36,706 --> 00:32:39,875
"Were you told by Dick Briggs
that he was D.B. Cooper?"
523
00:32:39,959 --> 00:32:42,169
he did very well on that issue.
524
00:32:44,046 --> 00:32:46,549
Have you ever lied to an authority figure?
525
00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:47,967
No.
526
00:32:48,926 --> 00:32:51,721
After the lie detector test, I told Rich,
527
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,056
"I think he's telling the truth."
528
00:32:54,724 --> 00:33:00,271
So then we started doing the research
to see if Dick Briggs was D.B. Cooper.
529
00:33:00,354 --> 00:33:03,983
D.B. Cooper was
a Walter Mitty kind of man.
530
00:33:04,066 --> 00:33:07,903
Ever since boyhood,
he had bolstered his self-confidence
531
00:33:07,987 --> 00:33:13,909
by fantasizing wild adventures
in which he, of course, was the hero.
532
00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:22,752
One day, we found out
that Dick Briggs died mysteriously.
533
00:33:23,252 --> 00:33:25,129
His friends think he was murdered.
534
00:33:25,212 --> 00:33:28,257
It was a one-car accident
in the middle of nowhere in Portland.
535
00:33:31,218 --> 00:33:33,929
Before this, he talked about Vietnam.
536
00:33:35,347 --> 00:33:38,225
But that's where his story
had a real problem.
537
00:33:39,143 --> 00:33:41,437
I spent eight months on that thread.
538
00:33:42,730 --> 00:33:44,440
I actually believed he was Cooper.
539
00:33:45,566 --> 00:33:49,695
But then I find out he's never been
to Vietnam, can't parachute.
540
00:33:49,779 --> 00:33:53,365
He was a part-time weekend warrior
for the Air Force,
541
00:33:53,449 --> 00:33:54,992
so he didn't have to go to Vietnam.
542
00:33:55,868 --> 00:33:56,869
Right at that point,
543
00:33:56,952 --> 00:34:00,289
I'm looking at this man and thinking,
"I got the wrong guy."
544
00:34:00,372 --> 00:34:02,625
Here are the facts as we know them.
545
00:34:02,708 --> 00:34:05,127
Cooper was a tall, dark man.
546
00:34:05,628 --> 00:34:12,301
Dick Briggs was a short, stocky,
just gigantic, muscular man.
547
00:34:13,636 --> 00:34:15,096
Briggs wasn't the guy.
548
00:34:15,930 --> 00:34:20,101
He was just some braggart
saying, "I'm D.B. Cooper," you know?
549
00:34:20,768 --> 00:34:23,395
We were thinking, "Hey, this is over."
550
00:34:25,064 --> 00:34:26,649
Ron Carlson felt terrible,
551
00:34:27,441 --> 00:34:30,152
'cause for 40 years,
he was told this man was Cooper.
552
00:34:30,236 --> 00:34:31,362
Didn't even look like him,
553
00:34:31,445 --> 00:34:33,447
but he believed him
because he had the money found.
554
00:34:34,406 --> 00:34:37,535
You know, the twists and turns
of this whole thing has, uh,
555
00:34:37,618 --> 00:34:40,162
changed my opinion
about almost everything.
556
00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:43,124
So, I guess nothing will surprise me.
557
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,091
All who look for Cooper experience
something called the Cooper curse.
558
00:34:52,591 --> 00:34:56,303
We don't know who he is or was,
where he came from or where he went.
559
00:34:58,222 --> 00:35:00,015
This case is booby-trapped.
560
00:35:00,099 --> 00:35:03,519
Just as you get close to really thinking
you know who the hijacker is,
561
00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:06,897
something comes along the way
and shows you that it's wrong.
562
00:35:06,981 --> 00:35:11,193
This one is not solved,
and we're still after D.B. Cooper.
563
00:35:11,902 --> 00:35:15,573
We may never know
what happened to D.B. Cooper or who he is,
564
00:35:15,656 --> 00:35:18,617
but the allure
of the unsolved mystery endures.
565
00:35:18,701 --> 00:35:21,537
When I started the case,
I thought I could solve it too.
566
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:22,997
I thought I could solve this case.
567
00:35:29,003 --> 00:35:33,132
At the time, I was working as a reporter
and writer in southern Manhattan.
568
00:35:33,841 --> 00:35:35,134
I was covering crime.
569
00:35:36,886 --> 00:35:39,763
One of the things I love
about being an investigative reporter
570
00:35:39,847 --> 00:35:41,807
is taking on the hard cases.
571
00:35:41,891 --> 00:35:44,143
You know, the stuff that is just
impossible to solve.
572
00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:47,855
And when I first got a tip
about D.B. Cooper,
573
00:35:47,938 --> 00:35:49,231
I knew that he was mine.
574
00:35:51,275 --> 00:35:52,359
I had to go after him.
575
00:35:53,527 --> 00:35:56,238
I wrote a book about the case,
my first book.
576
00:35:56,322 --> 00:35:58,324
I thought, "If I solve the case, oh,
577
00:35:58,407 --> 00:36:02,077
the Pulitzer Prizes and all the rewards
that would come in."
578
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,878
Random House Audio presents
The Hunt for D.B. Cooper
579
00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:12,546
by Geoffrey Gray.
580
00:36:13,422 --> 00:36:14,840
This is Geoffrey Gray.
581
00:36:15,424 --> 00:36:16,967
It took me over four years,
582
00:36:17,051 --> 00:36:18,802
and I'm here to tell you
the curse is real.
583
00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:22,848
Over the decades,
584
00:36:22,932 --> 00:36:26,894
some suspects disappeared,
some suspects faked their own deaths.
585
00:36:26,977 --> 00:36:29,480
One man nearly died
in a custom-built submarine,
586
00:36:29,563 --> 00:36:31,732
scanning the bottom of a lake
for the hijacker's ransom.
587
00:36:33,567 --> 00:36:36,695
One renowned reporter attempted suicide
after his suspect
588
00:36:36,779 --> 00:36:38,364
was proven to be a fraud.
589
00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:45,371
Only a steady program
of electroshock treatment
590
00:36:45,454 --> 00:36:47,373
jolted him back into coherency.
591
00:36:48,207 --> 00:36:49,375
I started to see
592
00:36:49,458 --> 00:36:51,460
that the Cooper case
was not about Cooper himself,
593
00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:53,045
but about the people chasing Cooper.
594
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,051
People like Tom Colbert
and others, and people like me.
595
00:36:59,635 --> 00:37:00,970
Can't help but admire this guy.
596
00:37:02,388 --> 00:37:06,058
Psychologically, this case
takes you into the dark divide.
597
00:37:07,184 --> 00:37:10,604
This is a case that questions
who you are and what you believe,
598
00:37:10,688 --> 00:37:13,107
what you want to believe,
and what really happened.
599
00:37:15,276 --> 00:37:17,987
The only one more famous
in the world than D.B. Cooper
600
00:37:18,070 --> 00:37:19,405
is the person who finds him.
601
00:37:22,157 --> 00:37:24,827
I came to a point
where I had four suspects,
602
00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:27,246
and I actually thought
that they were all D.B. Cooper.
603
00:37:27,913 --> 00:37:30,499
I pulled myself back, and I was like,
"Why have I gone to this point
604
00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:32,626
where I believe that four people
are the same guy?"
605
00:37:33,544 --> 00:37:36,547
That's the thing, you know,
it's gold fever, in a way.
606
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:39,758
You so want to prove
that your suspect is the one
607
00:37:39,842 --> 00:37:42,928
that your belief systems
take over your logic.
608
00:37:43,012 --> 00:37:46,557
Four people can't be him,
and some things just can't be true.
609
00:37:53,897 --> 00:37:55,357
Okay, we're back here.
610
00:37:56,275 --> 00:37:57,735
Wait a minute,
we got the train again.
611
00:37:58,402 --> 00:37:59,278
Hang on. Sorry.
612
00:38:01,030 --> 00:38:04,408
When we finally figured out
Dick Briggs was not D.B. Cooper,
613
00:38:04,491 --> 00:38:06,827
I said, "Could he have had a partner?"
614
00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:10,331
Tom's tenacity is amazing.
I mean, he just won't give up.
615
00:38:10,414 --> 00:38:13,292
You know, when he sees a dead end,
I'm going, "Okay, that's it,"
616
00:38:13,375 --> 00:38:14,793
he just keeps on going.
617
00:38:16,545 --> 00:38:17,880
I make a decision.
618
00:38:17,963 --> 00:38:19,965
I'm going to call
the police department in Portland,
619
00:38:20,049 --> 00:38:22,051
and I'm gonna find some old narcs.
620
00:38:22,718 --> 00:38:26,513
And so I call and I said, "You got a narc
that remembers a guy named Dick Briggs?"
621
00:38:27,556 --> 00:38:28,807
And sure enough, a week later,
622
00:38:28,891 --> 00:38:31,393
I get an 80-some-odd-year-old guy
who's still alive.
623
00:38:31,977 --> 00:38:36,106
They give me a half-dozen to a dozen
neighborhood friends of Dick Briggs.
624
00:38:36,690 --> 00:38:39,485
I started peeling them back,
going one by one,
625
00:38:39,568 --> 00:38:41,111
and hearing stories about him.
626
00:38:41,195 --> 00:38:44,448
And the last guy I decide to call
is the one that scares me…
627
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:46,992
by the name of Pudgy Hunt.
628
00:38:47,076 --> 00:38:48,744
I've watched too many cowboy movies
629
00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,954
with a guy named Pudgy,
pulls out a sawed-off shotgun.
630
00:38:54,375 --> 00:38:56,168
Why do they call you Pudgy?
631
00:38:56,251 --> 00:38:57,753
When I was nine months old,
632
00:38:57,836 --> 00:39:01,048
I weighed 36 pounds, I believe.
633
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,510
Tell us about Briggs' friend.
634
00:39:05,094 --> 00:39:08,305
One time, Dick Briggs
introduced a friend of his.
635
00:39:08,389 --> 00:39:13,519
And this guy pulled out some clippings
from the local newspapers…
636
00:39:15,062 --> 00:39:19,817
talking about him being a Green Beret
and a medal winner in the service.
637
00:39:21,318 --> 00:39:23,362
That's when I found out
Dick Briggs' partner
638
00:39:23,445 --> 00:39:25,322
was a guy named Robert Rackstraw.
639
00:39:26,365 --> 00:39:28,075
And that changed everything.
640
00:39:33,622 --> 00:39:36,291
We compared a picture
of Rackstraw at that age
641
00:39:36,375 --> 00:39:38,919
with the police drawing of D.B. Cooper.
642
00:39:41,171 --> 00:39:44,550
And Rackstraw's picture
was almost identical.
643
00:39:47,845 --> 00:39:50,389
You have parachute training,
as you mentioned yourself.
644
00:39:50,472 --> 00:39:54,810
Your background suggests
that you could have been D.B. Cooper.
645
00:39:55,394 --> 00:39:57,771
Could have been. Could have been.
646
00:39:59,773 --> 00:40:02,109
This man has the skill set.
647
00:40:02,192 --> 00:40:05,112
At that point, I knew we had D.B. Cooper.
648
00:40:06,405 --> 00:40:08,157
And I said, "Thank you, Jesus."
649
00:40:09,074 --> 00:40:13,704
With Rackstraw, I believe
we have cracked a 50-year-old case.
650
00:40:13,787 --> 00:40:16,832
I mean, there's a lot
of little God miracles going on here,
651
00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:19,710
where I'm whacked on the head,
"Oh my God, how did I find that?"
652
00:40:19,793 --> 00:40:21,837
Are you willing to state
one way or the other
653
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,797
whether or not you're D.B. Cooper?
654
00:40:24,339 --> 00:40:25,507
With a story like that,
655
00:40:25,591 --> 00:40:27,301
should it be fiction
or should it be fact?
656
00:40:28,469 --> 00:40:32,097
Primarily up to the American people
someday how that comes out.
657
00:40:33,307 --> 00:40:36,101
Once my team began researching Rackstraw,
658
00:40:36,185 --> 00:40:40,230
they started to find out what he was doing
when he wasn't jumping from a plane.
659
00:40:44,985 --> 00:40:48,447
He had all these fake identities,
multiple criminal titles.
660
00:40:49,114 --> 00:40:50,657
The guy is off the scale.
661
00:40:51,366 --> 00:40:53,577
You won't believe how crazy it gets.
662
00:40:53,660 --> 00:40:55,287
Are you D.B. Cooper?
663
00:40:55,370 --> 00:40:57,498
I can't talk about things like that.
664
00:40:58,081 --> 00:41:00,042
I can't talk about
any of that sort of thing.