1 00:00:13,179 --> 00:00:18,017 -(BIRD CHEEPING) -(CRICKET CHIRPING) 2 00:00:20,353 --> 00:00:23,815 (WIND WHOOSHING) 3 00:00:29,362 --> 00:00:31,406 If you can't appreciate the world around you 4 00:00:31,489 --> 00:00:33,533 and the beauty it holds, 5 00:00:33,616 --> 00:00:36,161 I feel sorry for you. You suck. 6 00:00:37,162 --> 00:00:38,621 (SCHOOL BUS ENGINE WHIRRING) 7 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:42,333 (CRICKETS CHIRPING) 8 00:00:42,417 --> 00:00:46,129 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 9 00:00:48,923 --> 00:00:51,634 PAUL PROPERT: I left a lot behind in my travels, 10 00:00:51,718 --> 00:00:54,763 and I miss many, many people... 11 00:00:54,846 --> 00:00:57,932 especially my family and friends from home. 12 00:00:58,016 --> 00:01:00,727 Some have told me to document the insanity of traveling 13 00:01:00,810 --> 00:01:04,022 from Northeast Pennsylvania to Acapulco, Mexico. 14 00:01:06,065 --> 00:01:07,901 So, here we go. 15 00:01:08,860 --> 00:01:11,946 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 16 00:01:12,030 --> 00:01:13,114 PAUL: My adventure began 17 00:01:13,198 --> 00:01:14,491 where the land was already drained 18 00:01:14,574 --> 00:01:17,202 of life energy by the parasitical empire. 19 00:01:18,495 --> 00:01:21,664 Forced to seek a better reality, I journey far, 20 00:01:21,748 --> 00:01:24,459 searching for people worth calling my tribe. 21 00:01:24,542 --> 00:01:26,211 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 22 00:01:26,294 --> 00:01:29,714 PAUL: This quest was never about my comfort or well-being. 23 00:01:29,798 --> 00:01:31,758 I fully understand, I am the broken 24 00:01:31,841 --> 00:01:34,844 and damaged- beyond-repair traveler... 25 00:01:34,928 --> 00:01:37,597 sent to protect those with a fighting chance. 26 00:01:39,224 --> 00:01:40,934 I'm a beast born in the violence 27 00:01:41,017 --> 00:01:42,852 of a dead paradigm. 28 00:01:42,936 --> 00:01:44,813 I am the obsolete tool of a world 29 00:01:44,896 --> 00:01:46,648 that must give way for the new. 30 00:01:49,776 --> 00:01:51,444 And I never harbored any illusion 31 00:01:51,528 --> 00:01:54,072 of surviving until the end. 32 00:01:54,155 --> 00:01:59,410 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES, FADES) ♪ 33 00:02:00,954 --> 00:02:04,916 (WAVES CRASHING) 34 00:02:05,625 --> 00:02:11,673 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 35 00:02:17,428 --> 00:02:19,430 JEFF BERWICK: You see people waking up every day. 36 00:02:21,266 --> 00:02:25,728 You see, like, 70-year-old moms and they're like... 37 00:02:25,812 --> 00:02:28,648 "I... I understand now, this is a whole fraud. 38 00:02:28,731 --> 00:02:30,692 And where's all my money the government took? 39 00:02:30,775 --> 00:02:33,653 And why am I standing for this national sing-along? 40 00:02:33,736 --> 00:02:36,823 And why do I think cops are good?" 41 00:02:36,906 --> 00:02:40,702 Like, hundreds of millions or billions of people right now 42 00:02:40,785 --> 00:02:43,246 are having these conversations in their own mind. 43 00:02:44,289 --> 00:02:47,000 And we'll see, it's up to them. 44 00:02:47,083 --> 00:02:49,419 'Cause I can't change this whole place. (CHUCKLES) 45 00:02:49,502 --> 00:02:51,004 We're gonna need some help. 46 00:02:51,087 --> 00:02:55,216 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 47 00:02:55,300 --> 00:02:56,926 TODD SCHRAMKE: The momentum of Anarchapulco 48 00:02:57,010 --> 00:02:58,636 and the local anarchist community 49 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,015 continued to accelerate with Jeff's hands-off approach, 50 00:03:02,098 --> 00:03:04,726 allowing the movement to take on a life of its own. 51 00:03:04,809 --> 00:03:09,606 JEFF: One of my main messages is that every single person, 52 00:03:09,689 --> 00:03:14,444 everyone, no one excluded, can change this world. 53 00:03:15,236 --> 00:03:16,487 Look at Jesus, 54 00:03:16,571 --> 00:03:17,906 and I don't even know if he is real. 55 00:03:17,989 --> 00:03:19,365 I don't trust anything in this world, 56 00:03:19,449 --> 00:03:21,409 but if he was, look at what he did. 57 00:03:21,492 --> 00:03:25,163 He was an anarchist and he said, "Fuck the government." 58 00:03:25,246 --> 00:03:27,332 And he only got angry and violent 59 00:03:27,415 --> 00:03:28,791 with central bankers. 60 00:03:29,584 --> 00:03:31,753 Sounds familiar. 61 00:03:31,836 --> 00:03:33,463 We'll see what happens. (CHUCKLES) 62 00:03:34,505 --> 00:03:35,632 All right, let's go. 63 00:03:35,715 --> 00:03:38,134 ♪ (FAST-PACED MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 64 00:03:38,217 --> 00:03:40,511 TODD: As the Anarchapulco community was growing, 65 00:03:40,595 --> 00:03:42,305 so was my crew. 66 00:03:42,388 --> 00:03:44,098 Joining me now was producer 67 00:03:44,182 --> 00:03:46,267 and sound recordist, Kym Kylland, 68 00:03:46,351 --> 00:03:48,937 who quickly became an essential part of this project. 69 00:03:49,896 --> 00:03:52,482 ♪ (FAST-PACED MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 70 00:03:53,191 --> 00:03:54,776 (STAFF MEMBER SPEAKING SPANISH) 71 00:03:54,859 --> 00:03:57,028 -Buenas tardes. -(STAFF MEMBER SPEAKING SPANISH) 72 00:03:57,111 --> 00:03:58,321 NATHAN FREEMAN: I'm sorry? 73 00:03:58,404 --> 00:03:59,572 STAFF MEMBER: 74 00:03:59,656 --> 00:04:01,199 Oh, I'm waiting for an appointment. 75 00:04:01,282 --> 00:04:03,284 Um, and while I'm waiting, we're just getting 76 00:04:03,368 --> 00:04:04,786 a little footage of the hotel. 77 00:04:04,869 --> 00:04:05,954 We have a conference 78 00:04:06,037 --> 00:04:07,413 -here in, uh... -Oh, okay. 79 00:04:07,497 --> 00:04:09,290 -...in February. -Let me ask you... 80 00:04:09,374 --> 00:04:11,459 TODD: For the upcoming 2017 conference, 81 00:04:11,542 --> 00:04:14,671 the Freemans were taking a new approach to expansion. 82 00:04:14,754 --> 00:04:16,297 I want to help all these people figure out 83 00:04:16,381 --> 00:04:17,840 how to get filthy rich. 84 00:04:17,924 --> 00:04:22,178 (CHUCKLES) And I... And I... I mean that quite sincerely. 85 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:25,014 If this community manages to accumulate wealth 86 00:04:25,098 --> 00:04:29,686 while being a beacon for, uh, a voluntary society 87 00:04:29,769 --> 00:04:33,439 in such a beautiful location, uh, then I think 88 00:04:33,523 --> 00:04:35,984 we'll be able to attract more and more people. 89 00:04:36,067 --> 00:04:39,070 Wealth and comfort are something that most people do, 90 00:04:39,153 --> 00:04:41,698 in fact, aspire to and therefore we should... 91 00:04:41,781 --> 00:04:43,574 we should try to be able to demonstrate that. 92 00:04:43,658 --> 00:04:45,576 Are you... Are you looking in the camera when you speak? 93 00:04:45,660 --> 00:04:46,828 I am looking in the camera lens. 94 00:04:46,911 --> 00:04:48,246 I never do! I was looking at... (CHUCKLES) 95 00:04:48,329 --> 00:04:51,624 ♪ (MELLOW MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 96 00:04:51,708 --> 00:04:53,167 LISA FREEMAN: We moved the conference 97 00:04:53,251 --> 00:04:55,378 to the biggest hotel in Acapulco. 98 00:04:55,461 --> 00:04:57,839 NATHAN: So there's, I believe three pools... 99 00:04:58,631 --> 00:05:00,216 uh, plus a hot tub. 100 00:05:00,299 --> 00:05:03,136 And then there's a wave pool on the far side. 101 00:05:03,219 --> 00:05:09,058 It's way more modern, touristy, high-end. 102 00:05:09,142 --> 00:05:10,852 NATHAN: My personal favorite thing about it 103 00:05:10,935 --> 00:05:13,688 is this beautiful bar. I'm very much looking forward 104 00:05:13,771 --> 00:05:15,273 to filling it up with anarchists. 105 00:05:15,356 --> 00:05:17,483 Unlike the hotels where we've stayed in the past, 106 00:05:17,567 --> 00:05:20,069 uh, this one is open until three in the morning. 107 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:21,863 LISA: It was kind of like the decision you make 108 00:05:21,946 --> 00:05:23,322 when you have a business, when you go 109 00:05:23,406 --> 00:05:26,200 from a national company to an international, 110 00:05:26,284 --> 00:05:29,287 it's time to start being in the big boy ring. 111 00:05:29,370 --> 00:05:32,081 TODD: How would you pitch the conference to someone? 112 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:35,001 It's simple. It will change your life. 113 00:05:35,084 --> 00:05:36,919 Um, every single person who's attended 114 00:05:37,003 --> 00:05:38,838 has said the same thing. If you're a person 115 00:05:38,921 --> 00:05:40,798 who's interested in peace and freedom, 116 00:05:40,882 --> 00:05:44,886 then, uh, when you come here, you're gonna be in your tribe, 117 00:05:44,969 --> 00:05:47,889 uh, more than you ever have been anywhere else. 118 00:05:49,432 --> 00:05:50,933 So, this is the main stage, right? 119 00:05:51,017 --> 00:05:53,978 LISA: The main conference room was huge! 120 00:05:54,062 --> 00:05:57,023 Which sucked for the walkthrough, 121 00:05:57,106 --> 00:05:58,107 because I was pregnant. 122 00:05:58,191 --> 00:06:00,485 I remember having to walk all the time. 123 00:06:00,568 --> 00:06:03,071 NATHAN: So many people that are part of the conference 124 00:06:03,154 --> 00:06:04,405 are just the people I cherish 125 00:06:04,489 --> 00:06:06,365 more than almost anyone else in my life, 126 00:06:06,449 --> 00:06:08,743 -except for my family. -No, don't cry. 127 00:06:08,826 --> 00:06:11,079 (BOTH CHUCKLE) 128 00:06:11,162 --> 00:06:13,456 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 129 00:06:13,539 --> 00:06:17,919 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 130 00:06:20,171 --> 00:06:21,798 (SPEAKING IN SPANISH) 131 00:06:21,881 --> 00:06:24,634 (INDISTINCT CHATTER CONTINUES) 132 00:06:24,717 --> 00:06:28,137 (SPEAKING IN SPANISH) 133 00:06:28,221 --> 00:06:30,348 He almost cut the fat off, and he was like, "Wait." 134 00:06:32,725 --> 00:06:34,310 LILY FORESTER: We knew that we weren't going 135 00:06:34,393 --> 00:06:36,854 to make very much money just trying to live in Mexico. 136 00:06:38,022 --> 00:06:39,690 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 137 00:06:39,774 --> 00:06:41,526 LILY: We tried selling cannabis edibles 138 00:06:41,609 --> 00:06:44,070 in the community. And then I was basically, 139 00:06:44,153 --> 00:06:46,405 like, trying to pimp out all my skills, 140 00:06:46,489 --> 00:06:48,074 which really my skills at that point 141 00:06:48,157 --> 00:06:49,283 was that I could cook. 142 00:06:49,367 --> 00:06:51,869 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 143 00:06:51,953 --> 00:06:53,287 LILY: Like every night we would just say, 144 00:06:53,371 --> 00:06:56,374 "We're making this, come up to our house, 145 00:06:56,457 --> 00:06:57,875 pay us a little money." 146 00:06:57,959 --> 00:07:00,920 And that expanded because people were like, 147 00:07:01,003 --> 00:07:03,172 "I hear you guys are making good food." 148 00:07:03,256 --> 00:07:04,841 TODD: What kind of steaks are these? 149 00:07:04,924 --> 00:07:08,344 LILY: Those are Denver strip. These are picanha. 150 00:07:08,427 --> 00:07:12,348 I was impressed because they got shit done. 151 00:07:13,349 --> 00:07:15,017 They got shit done, 152 00:07:15,101 --> 00:07:18,020 with little... with, like, with little to nothing. 153 00:07:18,104 --> 00:07:19,313 To this day, I still don't know 154 00:07:19,397 --> 00:07:24,569 if I have met as resourceful a couple as John and Lily. 155 00:07:24,652 --> 00:07:27,488 LILY: It was just like a process of like bringing people 156 00:07:27,572 --> 00:07:31,409 into our homes, feeding them, telling them our story. 157 00:07:31,492 --> 00:07:33,369 "This is who we are, this is how we got here." 158 00:07:33,452 --> 00:07:36,289 And people were fascinated. 159 00:07:36,372 --> 00:07:37,999 (KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 160 00:07:38,082 --> 00:07:40,251 LILY: So we got on Steemit... 161 00:07:40,334 --> 00:07:43,504 and we decided we were just gonna tell our story. 162 00:07:43,588 --> 00:07:46,174 TODD: Steemit is a blogging site that rewards users 163 00:07:46,257 --> 00:07:49,260 in cryptocurrency for popular posts. 164 00:07:49,343 --> 00:07:51,721 It's known for being resistant to censorship. 165 00:07:51,804 --> 00:07:53,472 So when it launched in 2016, 166 00:07:53,556 --> 00:07:56,309 it quickly became a common forum for the movement. 167 00:07:56,392 --> 00:07:57,393 (KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 168 00:07:57,476 --> 00:07:58,728 LILY: We had written our first post, 169 00:07:58,811 --> 00:08:01,147 which was literally just the story of the crossing... 170 00:08:02,857 --> 00:08:05,401 and it made like 50 dollars. 171 00:08:05,484 --> 00:08:09,405 And it was just like, "Oh, this is pretty good." 172 00:08:09,488 --> 00:08:11,782 John was trying to find ways to inspire me 173 00:08:11,866 --> 00:08:16,287 to post more content to attract our people to Acapulco. 174 00:08:16,370 --> 00:08:17,580 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 175 00:08:17,663 --> 00:08:19,624 LILY: And Paul was one of those people. 176 00:08:19,707 --> 00:08:21,542 ♪ (INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 177 00:08:21,626 --> 00:08:24,045 (SCHOOL BUS ENGINE WHIRRING) 178 00:08:25,254 --> 00:08:26,339 PAUL: Well, hey there. 179 00:08:27,256 --> 00:08:30,092 I have no fucking idea what to write. 180 00:08:30,176 --> 00:08:33,387 I guess I'll start off by introducing myself. 181 00:08:33,471 --> 00:08:34,972 My name's Paul, 182 00:08:35,056 --> 00:08:37,225 I'm a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan... 183 00:08:39,143 --> 00:08:41,187 and I'm now an anarchist. 184 00:08:41,270 --> 00:08:43,231 I consider myself a peaceful person, 185 00:08:43,314 --> 00:08:45,233 but I will not hesitate to crush skulls 186 00:08:45,316 --> 00:08:47,068 -to defend myself. -♪ (INTENSE MUSIC CONCLUDES) 187 00:08:47,151 --> 00:08:49,737 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 188 00:08:49,820 --> 00:08:54,075 PAUL: After Anarchapulco 2016, I bought this beast, 189 00:08:54,158 --> 00:08:57,036 and then my mind began to churn with possibilities. 190 00:08:57,828 --> 00:08:59,080 Why not move into the bus? 191 00:08:59,163 --> 00:09:00,998 It makes the whole thing I'm about to do 192 00:09:01,082 --> 00:09:03,000 even more insane. 193 00:09:03,084 --> 00:09:06,128 TODD: Paul's Steemit page had the feel of a comic book 194 00:09:06,212 --> 00:09:09,131 and was filled with self-made fantasy imagery, 195 00:09:09,215 --> 00:09:11,008 often based on his real life. 196 00:09:14,178 --> 00:09:15,638 PAUL: Along with my battle rifle, 197 00:09:15,721 --> 00:09:18,307 body armor, and a stockpile of supplies, 198 00:09:18,391 --> 00:09:20,935 I devised a plan to evacuate the state... 199 00:09:22,144 --> 00:09:24,313 and party my way down to the conference. 200 00:09:24,397 --> 00:09:26,440 (METAL CLANKING) 201 00:09:26,524 --> 00:09:29,026 -♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -(BIRDS CHIRPING) 202 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:30,778 TODD: So, uh, what's gonna be new this year 203 00:09:30,861 --> 00:09:32,113 for the conference? 204 00:09:32,196 --> 00:09:33,990 NATHAN: The biggest change is the fact that there's gonna 205 00:09:34,073 --> 00:09:36,450 be a dedicated, uh, cryptocurrency lounge. 206 00:09:36,534 --> 00:09:39,120 So, it'll be a full-time room that's just there 207 00:09:39,203 --> 00:09:42,290 for our crypto-oriented sponsors. 208 00:09:42,373 --> 00:09:45,126 The last day of the conference, 209 00:09:45,209 --> 00:09:48,170 we're actually redubbing to Cryptopulco. 210 00:09:48,254 --> 00:09:50,381 ZAIN ASHER: Using your credit card to buy stuff, 211 00:09:50,464 --> 00:09:52,508 that is so 20th century. 212 00:09:52,591 --> 00:09:54,593 Let me tell you what's in right now. 213 00:09:54,677 --> 00:09:56,887 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 214 00:09:56,971 --> 00:09:58,347 NEWSCASTER: Electronic currency. 215 00:09:58,431 --> 00:10:00,683 Everyone is talking about cryptocurrencies right now. 216 00:10:00,766 --> 00:10:02,601 Okay, I get it, this is complicated. 217 00:10:02,685 --> 00:10:03,978 If you're worried that we're going 218 00:10:04,061 --> 00:10:06,147 to get too technical, don't. 219 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:08,107 NEWSCASTER 2: Let's get some serious explanation 220 00:10:08,190 --> 00:10:09,317 here from Jeff Berwick. 221 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,902 This is a voluntary decentralized currency, 222 00:10:11,986 --> 00:10:13,237 anonymous. 223 00:10:13,321 --> 00:10:16,032 It can't be shut down by anyone, there is no central servers. 224 00:10:16,115 --> 00:10:18,075 And, uh, it's really catching on because people are getting 225 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:20,328 a little tired of these central banks. 226 00:10:20,411 --> 00:10:21,954 Cryptocurrency is so valuable 227 00:10:22,038 --> 00:10:25,458 because it is all about end-user control. 228 00:10:25,541 --> 00:10:27,460 No banks, no fees, no inflation. 229 00:10:27,543 --> 00:10:30,546 NEWSCASTER 3: No Visa, no PayPal, no regulators. 230 00:10:30,629 --> 00:10:32,173 LARKEN ROSE: I love that there's potential 231 00:10:32,256 --> 00:10:37,094 for so much undermining of centralized currencies, 232 00:10:37,178 --> 00:10:40,765 it serves to disempower ruling classes 233 00:10:40,848 --> 00:10:42,058 and empower the people. 234 00:10:43,142 --> 00:10:44,268 ♪ (HURRIED MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 235 00:10:44,352 --> 00:10:46,604 TODD: The disruptive backbone of cryptocurrency 236 00:10:46,687 --> 00:10:48,439 is called blockchain. 237 00:10:48,522 --> 00:10:51,233 When using traditional money, government-chartered banks 238 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:53,778 keep track of all electronic transactions. 239 00:10:53,861 --> 00:10:57,114 But blockchain software takes your entire financial ledger 240 00:10:57,198 --> 00:11:01,035 and records it across a massive, open network of computers. 241 00:11:01,118 --> 00:11:04,413 Bitcoin is an attempt to separate money and state, 242 00:11:04,497 --> 00:11:05,873 kind of like, 243 00:11:05,956 --> 00:11:07,541 how the separation of church and state 244 00:11:07,625 --> 00:11:11,921 was a sort of pivotal change in human history. 245 00:11:12,004 --> 00:11:14,382 Fundamentally, it's a limit on political will 246 00:11:14,465 --> 00:11:15,591 and political power. 247 00:11:15,674 --> 00:11:17,468 If enough people start using it, 248 00:11:17,551 --> 00:11:19,762 we will get rid of most poverty on Earth, 249 00:11:20,346 --> 00:11:21,680 all wars will end, 250 00:11:21,764 --> 00:11:24,392 all big governments will go away. 251 00:11:24,475 --> 00:11:25,935 We're on the cusp of it right now. 252 00:11:26,018 --> 00:11:28,604 I can buy all kinds of shady things. 253 00:11:28,687 --> 00:11:30,856 -Drugs. -Uh, yeah, drugs. 254 00:11:30,940 --> 00:11:32,900 -NEWSCASTER 2: Guns. -Whatever you'd like. 255 00:11:32,983 --> 00:11:34,068 TODD: Currently, there are 256 00:11:34,151 --> 00:11:36,904 over 10,000 cryptocurrencies in the world. 257 00:11:36,987 --> 00:11:40,825 But only one has risen to mainstream prominence. 258 00:11:40,908 --> 00:11:43,494 How many of you have heard of Bitcoin? 259 00:11:43,577 --> 00:11:44,578 Bitcoin! 260 00:11:44,662 --> 00:11:46,497 We have something called the Bitcoin, 261 00:11:46,580 --> 00:11:47,915 the Bitcoin, the Bitcoin... 262 00:11:47,998 --> 00:11:49,667 REPORTER: We've seen evidence that the value 263 00:11:49,750 --> 00:11:51,460 of Bitcoin can actually fluctuate by about 264 00:11:51,544 --> 00:11:52,837 20 percent on a daily basis. 265 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,755 JUAN GALT: It has a fundamentally limited supply, 266 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:57,216 there can only be 21 million Bitcoin. 267 00:11:57,299 --> 00:11:59,885 And so it makes it kind of a digital gold. 268 00:11:59,969 --> 00:12:04,974 You have to really stretch your imagination to infer 269 00:12:05,057 --> 00:12:07,852 what the intrinsic value of Bitcoin is. 270 00:12:07,935 --> 00:12:10,896 I am confident that Bitcoin is the most important invention 271 00:12:10,980 --> 00:12:12,857 in the entire history of the world since the internet. 272 00:12:12,940 --> 00:12:15,734 People are willing to buy it because they think can sell 273 00:12:15,818 --> 00:12:17,528 to somebody else at a higher price. 274 00:12:17,611 --> 00:12:19,572 That's not money, that's a Ponzi scheme. 275 00:12:19,655 --> 00:12:20,990 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 276 00:12:21,073 --> 00:12:22,783 JEFF: I love the fact that anyone in the world 277 00:12:22,867 --> 00:12:25,411 can trade these things. And yeah, they might lose a lot, 278 00:12:25,494 --> 00:12:26,912 or they might gain a lot, you know? 279 00:12:26,996 --> 00:12:29,748 I wouldn't call it gambling, but it's similar. 280 00:12:29,832 --> 00:12:31,750 But you have to be smart. Just like when you play poker, 281 00:12:31,834 --> 00:12:33,169 if you don't know how to play poker, 282 00:12:33,252 --> 00:12:35,087 and you play with guys who know how to play poker, 283 00:12:35,171 --> 00:12:36,255 you're just gonna lose. 284 00:12:36,338 --> 00:12:37,590 REPORTER 2: Well, Bitcoin, today, 285 00:12:37,673 --> 00:12:40,759 the cryptocurrency up 178 percent... 286 00:12:40,843 --> 00:12:42,011 And it looks like Bitcoin 287 00:12:42,094 --> 00:12:44,346 still has room to run this new year. This week... 288 00:12:44,430 --> 00:12:47,266 LISA: The cryptocurrency world was really starting to pick up. 289 00:12:47,349 --> 00:12:52,021 And I told Nathan, we need a crypto ATM. 290 00:12:52,104 --> 00:12:54,356 ♪ (MILD TEMPO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 291 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,775 REPORTER 3: This machine is getting a lot of buzz. 292 00:12:56,859 --> 00:12:57,985 The main objective? 293 00:12:58,068 --> 00:13:00,905 Basically allowing people to buy Bitcoins with cash, 294 00:13:00,988 --> 00:13:03,824 cash Bitcoins out right on the spot. 295 00:13:03,908 --> 00:13:05,326 LISA: If we're gonna be a crypto conference, 296 00:13:05,409 --> 00:13:06,827 we need to have a Bitcoin ATM here, 297 00:13:06,911 --> 00:13:09,663 so people can actually practice what we're talking about. 298 00:13:09,747 --> 00:13:11,540 And so I got a hold of Joby Weeks 299 00:13:11,624 --> 00:13:14,460 and he's like, "I can get you an ATM." 300 00:13:14,543 --> 00:13:18,506 I'm here with a longtime friend and Bitcoin fan, Joby Weeks. 301 00:13:18,589 --> 00:13:20,466 Joby Weeks, seems like I see you here 302 00:13:20,549 --> 00:13:21,884 every, uh, few months now. 303 00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:23,719 TODD: Joby Weeks is a network marketing 304 00:13:23,802 --> 00:13:26,680 entrepreneur, turned Bitcoin evangelist. 305 00:13:26,764 --> 00:13:28,974 Literally, this is a machine that prints money 306 00:13:29,058 --> 00:13:30,351 in the form of Bitcoin. 307 00:13:30,434 --> 00:13:32,311 TODD: He'd been a regular face at the conference 308 00:13:32,394 --> 00:13:33,395 since it began, 309 00:13:33,479 --> 00:13:34,730 and always seemed to come through 310 00:13:34,813 --> 00:13:36,398 with some of the most interesting connections 311 00:13:36,482 --> 00:13:37,608 in the crypto world. 312 00:13:38,651 --> 00:13:40,277 LISA: And then I created a chat, 313 00:13:40,361 --> 00:13:43,489 and Paul's like, "I can get it here, no problem." 314 00:13:43,572 --> 00:13:45,407 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 315 00:13:45,491 --> 00:13:49,161 If you can't appreciate the world around, you suck. 316 00:13:49,245 --> 00:13:51,038 TODD: Paul had been acquainted with the Freemans 317 00:13:51,121 --> 00:13:54,291 for about a year. They met at the 2016 conference, 318 00:13:54,375 --> 00:13:55,918 where he fell in love with the movement 319 00:13:56,001 --> 00:13:58,712 and decided to rebuild his entire life around it. 320 00:13:59,672 --> 00:14:01,590 LISA: The Paul crowd were the ones 321 00:14:01,674 --> 00:14:03,509 hanging out late at night, drinking and partying. 322 00:14:08,514 --> 00:14:11,433 But fundamentally, he had a really great heart. 323 00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:13,060 (PAUL COUGHING) 324 00:14:13,143 --> 00:14:15,020 He's just the person that jumps right in 325 00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:16,689 to helping people. 326 00:14:16,772 --> 00:14:19,108 PAUL: I cannot wait to party with y'all again. 327 00:14:19,191 --> 00:14:21,819 If I don't get gunned down or kidnapped on the way... 328 00:14:23,070 --> 00:14:26,323 I'll be crash-landing at the party in a few days. 329 00:14:26,407 --> 00:14:29,702 -(MOUSE CLICKING) -(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 330 00:14:31,620 --> 00:14:34,248 ♪ (MILD TEMPO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 331 00:14:34,331 --> 00:14:37,126 It's been, what, almost one full year, 332 00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:39,044 -or just over a year? -Just about a year. 333 00:14:39,128 --> 00:14:41,255 Just about a year since you've been here. Just... 334 00:14:41,338 --> 00:14:44,842 TODD: John and Lily's Steemit adventure had taken off. 335 00:14:44,925 --> 00:14:47,261 They gathered over 6,000 followers, 336 00:14:47,344 --> 00:14:50,598 which drew the attention of independent journalists. 337 00:14:50,681 --> 00:14:52,391 JOHN GALTON: Fortunately, we, uh, became 338 00:14:52,474 --> 00:14:56,270 one of the top 100 personalities within Steemit fairly early on, 339 00:14:56,353 --> 00:14:58,314 like people just kind of liked our story. 340 00:14:58,397 --> 00:15:00,941 People have had bigger payouts than us, 341 00:15:01,025 --> 00:15:03,444 but we consistently have decent payouts, 342 00:15:03,527 --> 00:15:06,196 which has kind of allowed us to make a living. 343 00:15:07,072 --> 00:15:09,241 We were essentially making history, 344 00:15:09,325 --> 00:15:11,076 like who else was doing what we were doing? 345 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,995 Not only were we, like, on the run, 346 00:15:13,078 --> 00:15:15,456 but we were vocal about it. (CHUCKLES) 347 00:15:15,539 --> 00:15:17,958 We were like, "Hey, look at us, we're on the run!" (CHUCKLES) 348 00:15:18,042 --> 00:15:20,419 "We got charges!" (CHUCKLES) Like... 349 00:15:20,502 --> 00:15:21,670 TODD: Were you worried at all, 350 00:15:21,754 --> 00:15:24,423 putting your image out there in the world? 351 00:15:24,506 --> 00:15:27,760 LILY: After about six months, we were kind of like, 352 00:15:27,843 --> 00:15:29,970 "If it was gonna happen, it would have." 353 00:15:30,054 --> 00:15:32,389 Like if they were just gonna come down and swoop us out 354 00:15:32,473 --> 00:15:33,891 and take us back, it would have. 355 00:15:33,974 --> 00:15:37,061 The idea of statism, you know, taxation and stuff, 356 00:15:37,144 --> 00:15:39,188 like these are inherently wrong concepts, 357 00:15:39,271 --> 00:15:40,648 -you know, it's not... -INTERVIEWER: Yeah. 358 00:15:40,731 --> 00:15:43,025 And this is how they affect real people's lives. 359 00:15:43,108 --> 00:15:44,443 And that's all we're trying to show, 360 00:15:44,526 --> 00:15:46,195 is how it's affected our life. 361 00:15:46,278 --> 00:15:47,655 LILY: At a certain point, we realized 362 00:15:47,738 --> 00:15:51,533 that if we could come to Mexico and survive with nothing, 363 00:15:51,617 --> 00:15:54,870 then anybody who was determined enough could. 364 00:15:54,953 --> 00:15:57,039 -(SIREN BLARING) -LISA: And they did. 365 00:15:58,874 --> 00:16:05,047 (TRAIN ENGINE RUMBLING) 366 00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:08,926 ♪ (MELLOW MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 367 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,808 That's how I dry my clothes. 368 00:16:18,477 --> 00:16:20,521 TODD: Can you tell me what led to your decision 369 00:16:20,604 --> 00:16:22,523 to leave the United States? 370 00:16:22,606 --> 00:16:24,692 JASON HENZA: I... I started to see all the ways, 371 00:16:24,775 --> 00:16:27,403 uh, I was controlled through the banking system, 372 00:16:27,486 --> 00:16:30,155 and through, you know, just arbitrary laws, 373 00:16:30,239 --> 00:16:33,409 like building codes and whatever. 374 00:16:33,492 --> 00:16:36,370 I thought I owned this property because I had bought a house. 375 00:16:36,453 --> 00:16:38,956 (GRASS MOWER ENGINE WHIRRING) 376 00:16:39,039 --> 00:16:40,708 HENZA: But every time I wanted to do something, 377 00:16:40,791 --> 00:16:42,960 people were like, "No, no, no, you have to go get a permit." 378 00:16:43,043 --> 00:16:44,753 I'm like, "Why do I need permission? 379 00:16:44,837 --> 00:16:46,088 Like, isn't it my house?" 380 00:16:46,171 --> 00:16:48,382 And then-- then I started to realize it wasn't my house. 381 00:16:48,465 --> 00:16:50,551 It was the village's house, 382 00:16:50,634 --> 00:16:53,804 it was the county's house, who was levying taxes on me. 383 00:16:54,972 --> 00:16:56,724 I just felt really trapped. 384 00:16:56,807 --> 00:16:58,267 I was wanting more freedom 385 00:16:58,350 --> 00:17:00,144 and wanting to be controlled less. 386 00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:01,937 (MOUSE CLICKING) 387 00:17:02,020 --> 00:17:04,440 HENZA: And then I found John and Lily on Steemit. 388 00:17:05,232 --> 00:17:07,192 Their story inspired me. 389 00:17:07,276 --> 00:17:09,528 -(MOUSE CLICKING) -(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 390 00:17:12,781 --> 00:17:15,033 HENZA: So I obsessed about Acapulco, 391 00:17:15,117 --> 00:17:16,243 just seeing it on Google Maps, 392 00:17:16,326 --> 00:17:18,454 just flipping through the streets, 393 00:17:18,537 --> 00:17:20,664 imagining I'd live there someday. 394 00:17:20,748 --> 00:17:24,042 But my wife didn't like that at all. 395 00:17:24,126 --> 00:17:26,628 She put the stipulation that I had to pay 396 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:27,963 for everything on this vacation, 397 00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:30,382 and she was our only source of income. 398 00:17:30,466 --> 00:17:31,967 We were just gonna show up down there 399 00:17:32,050 --> 00:17:33,051 for the conference, 400 00:17:33,135 --> 00:17:35,929 and just stay 30 days and then go home. 401 00:17:36,013 --> 00:17:38,849 I basically traded in my life's savings 402 00:17:38,932 --> 00:17:41,310 to get this done and make it happen. 403 00:17:42,644 --> 00:17:45,272 -(WIND WHOOSHING) -(BIRDS SQUAWKING) 404 00:17:45,355 --> 00:17:47,024 It's about 5:30 at night, 405 00:17:47,107 --> 00:17:50,444 just winding down after a day of sitting in the shade... 406 00:17:51,528 --> 00:17:52,821 enjoying life. 407 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:56,658 -(QUAD BIKE ENGINES REVVING) -♪ (RHYTHMIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 408 00:17:56,742 --> 00:17:58,619 HENZA: When we got to Acapulco... 409 00:17:58,702 --> 00:18:01,330 (INHALES DEEPLY) ...yeah, it was pretty cool. 410 00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:03,123 Like, I loved it. 411 00:18:03,207 --> 00:18:06,585 ♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 412 00:18:06,668 --> 00:18:08,545 HENZA: A beautiful 73 degrees out here. 413 00:18:08,629 --> 00:18:11,173 I know you're all suffering back in Chicagoland. 414 00:18:11,256 --> 00:18:13,884 It's... It's amazing out here. I mean... 415 00:18:13,967 --> 00:18:16,512 TODD: How did your wife feel about being in Acapulco? 416 00:18:16,595 --> 00:18:18,096 ♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 417 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:20,599 She hated hot weather. 418 00:18:22,017 --> 00:18:24,770 She hated Mexico. 419 00:18:24,853 --> 00:18:27,022 And she didn't want anything to do with it, really. 420 00:18:29,441 --> 00:18:31,819 But we met John and Lily, 421 00:18:31,902 --> 00:18:33,403 and then we immediately jumped into the back 422 00:18:33,487 --> 00:18:34,488 of that yellow truck. 423 00:18:34,571 --> 00:18:38,992 ♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 424 00:18:39,076 --> 00:18:41,662 HENZA: And he is yanking us through these side streets 425 00:18:41,745 --> 00:18:44,957 as hard as he can. (CHUCKLES) I loved those days, 426 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,333 just sitting in the back of the truck. 427 00:18:46,416 --> 00:18:47,501 Eventually, I made him 428 00:18:47,584 --> 00:18:49,169 make me sit in the front seat 'cause I felt like 429 00:18:49,253 --> 00:18:51,046 I was gonna fly out half the time. 430 00:18:51,129 --> 00:18:53,257 HENZA: All the freedom, all the shit that you get to do, 431 00:18:53,340 --> 00:18:55,926 it's... it's amazing. 432 00:18:56,009 --> 00:18:58,220 LILY: He was very starstruck, like, 433 00:18:58,303 --> 00:18:59,721 "Oh, everything's amazing, 434 00:18:59,805 --> 00:19:02,266 this is exactly what I wanted it to be!" 435 00:19:04,977 --> 00:19:08,689 We drove him and his dog and his wife 436 00:19:08,772 --> 00:19:11,817 all over Acapulco all day long, looking at places. 437 00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:14,153 HENZA: And then we went over to his friend's house. 438 00:19:14,236 --> 00:19:15,904 We called him Modprobe. 439 00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:19,116 And today I'd like to tell you a little bit about blockchains. 440 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:20,909 A blockchain... 441 00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:22,828 HENZA: He built this blockchain that was supposed to replace 442 00:19:22,911 --> 00:19:23,954 the stock market. 443 00:19:25,122 --> 00:19:29,418 He was very personal, very nice, really deep voice. 444 00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:33,589 He loved to be, uh, the bass in acapella groups... 445 00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:37,175 and he had, like a seven-bedroom mansion. 446 00:19:37,259 --> 00:19:40,012 There's a nice pool over here, it was a really cool atmosphere 447 00:19:40,095 --> 00:19:41,346 and everything like that. 448 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:44,474 I'm in this kick-ass mansion, and it's pouring out there, 449 00:19:44,558 --> 00:19:46,268 looking over Acapulco Bay. 450 00:19:47,185 --> 00:19:48,312 But this thing's awesome. 451 00:19:48,896 --> 00:19:50,355 There's Sammy. 452 00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:53,150 HENZA: He seemed very chill and everything was all good. 453 00:19:53,233 --> 00:19:55,402 And he only wanted 500 bucks a month to stay 454 00:19:55,485 --> 00:19:57,446 in that beautiful house. I was like, "Hell, yeah." 455 00:19:58,447 --> 00:19:59,907 TODD: Did your wife warm up at all 456 00:19:59,990 --> 00:20:01,742 after settling in with Modprobe? 457 00:20:02,826 --> 00:20:04,411 It was a little rocky at first. 458 00:20:04,494 --> 00:20:07,372 She talked about how she didn't like him. 459 00:20:07,456 --> 00:20:09,249 (INHALES DEEPLY) And then after about a week or so 460 00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:11,627 they-- they started talking and he was using big words, 461 00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:12,836 which suddenly she's like, 462 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,546 "Oh, I'm talking to someone who's smart." (CHUCKLES) 463 00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:16,465 You know, and like, "They can speak my language." 464 00:20:16,548 --> 00:20:18,550 And then eventually, you know, they became pretty good friends 465 00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:20,260 and they were really close. 466 00:20:20,344 --> 00:20:23,972 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 467 00:20:25,223 --> 00:20:26,350 (KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 468 00:20:26,433 --> 00:20:28,393 NARRATOR: By the 21st Century, 469 00:20:28,477 --> 00:20:31,647 the statists had taken over the world. 470 00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:35,943 After 9/11, the savage union of the war on terror 471 00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:37,402 and the war on drugs 472 00:20:37,486 --> 00:20:40,572 squelched the last flickers of freedom. 473 00:20:41,531 --> 00:20:44,701 Central-banking-backed wars raged. 474 00:20:44,785 --> 00:20:49,039 Violence, imprisonment and theft had become the norm. 475 00:20:49,122 --> 00:20:52,626 But then, when things looked their darkest, 476 00:20:52,709 --> 00:20:56,296 something happened just in time. 477 00:20:56,380 --> 00:20:59,174 ♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 478 00:20:59,257 --> 00:21:01,927 NARRATOR: The third annual Anarchapulco. 479 00:21:02,844 --> 00:21:07,265 (CROWD APPLAUDS) 480 00:21:07,349 --> 00:21:09,309 JEFF: Good to see you, thank you for coming. 481 00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:13,647 Third annual Anarchapulco, kinda hard to believe, really. 482 00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:15,440 It's actually sort of my first one, 483 00:21:15,524 --> 00:21:17,985 'cause last year I had dengue fever 484 00:21:18,068 --> 00:21:18,986 and I was delirious. 485 00:21:19,069 --> 00:21:20,362 And then the first year, I was actually 486 00:21:20,445 --> 00:21:22,781 just black-out drunk the entire conference. 487 00:21:23,156 --> 00:21:24,574 (HOWLS) 488 00:21:24,658 --> 00:21:26,451 DAYNA MARTIN: When you were three, when you were four, 489 00:21:26,535 --> 00:21:28,078 when you were six, and it didn't seem fair. 490 00:21:28,161 --> 00:21:30,414 Or when you were in school and you had to ask permission 491 00:21:30,497 --> 00:21:32,082 for basic human rights, 492 00:21:32,165 --> 00:21:34,876 that it was wrong. And you were all right, 493 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,796 -they were all wrong. -LARKEN: Fuck the troops! 494 00:21:37,879 --> 00:21:40,132 They work for the one organization 495 00:21:40,215 --> 00:21:42,551 that is actually a threat to the freedom 496 00:21:42,634 --> 00:21:44,052 of the American people, 497 00:21:44,136 --> 00:21:46,805 which is the United States fucking government! 498 00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:49,891 AMANDA ROSE: People who want to control others, 499 00:21:49,975 --> 00:21:51,685 people who want to rule the world 500 00:21:51,768 --> 00:21:53,520 and live as a parasite class 501 00:21:53,603 --> 00:21:55,647 leeching off of our productivity, 502 00:21:55,731 --> 00:21:58,984 use our ideas and our beliefs against us. 503 00:21:59,067 --> 00:22:00,235 (CROWD APPLAUDING) 504 00:22:00,318 --> 00:22:02,195 NATHAN: We have so many great speakers 505 00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:05,866 who want to come and break new ground. 506 00:22:05,949 --> 00:22:08,452 Break into new ideas, break into new areas. 507 00:22:08,535 --> 00:22:11,329 So, again... (CLEARS THROAT) ...fuck the government. 508 00:22:11,413 --> 00:22:14,958 TODD: This was, by far, the biggest Anarchapulco yet. 509 00:22:15,042 --> 00:22:17,753 Attendees were packed in for the speakers. 510 00:22:17,836 --> 00:22:20,338 I started engaging in the liberty space 511 00:22:20,422 --> 00:22:23,258 about three and a half years ago. 512 00:22:23,341 --> 00:22:24,593 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 513 00:22:24,676 --> 00:22:27,137 TODD: And the parties at night seemed endless. 514 00:22:28,847 --> 00:22:30,599 Over 600 people attended... 515 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,435 but the energy across the first few days 516 00:22:33,518 --> 00:22:35,228 felt like there were thousands. 517 00:22:35,312 --> 00:22:38,106 What's really going on at the very most basic level 518 00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:40,901 is creation. That's what we're all doing here. 519 00:22:40,984 --> 00:22:43,028 That's where this all came from. 520 00:22:43,111 --> 00:22:44,404 GUSTAVO SARTORIUS: The anarchists, like, 521 00:22:44,488 --> 00:22:47,365 they started to come in herds. 522 00:22:47,449 --> 00:22:51,536 They show up 50 or 60 or 80 at the same time 523 00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:55,582 in the restaurant and the store. And we were not used to that. 524 00:22:55,665 --> 00:22:59,294 I-- That moment I noticed, thanks to the Freemans, 525 00:22:59,377 --> 00:23:04,549 that it was a community here in Acapulco. 526 00:23:04,633 --> 00:23:06,843 SPEAKER: We have to know what we believe in, 527 00:23:06,927 --> 00:23:10,097 as well as what we want out from. 528 00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:12,307 HENAZA: I felt like I wouldn't be alone. 529 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:13,725 Every idea I had, 530 00:23:13,809 --> 00:23:15,310 people were like, "I get you, man." 531 00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:17,813 Like my dugout in my baseball team, 532 00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:19,189 you know, you just kind of have this-- 533 00:23:19,272 --> 00:23:24,236 this family, this camaraderie that was just so... so us. 534 00:23:25,737 --> 00:23:27,531 It makes me feel like... 535 00:23:30,575 --> 00:23:31,743 I can't even tell you. 536 00:23:32,494 --> 00:23:34,496 It... it just, um... 537 00:23:34,579 --> 00:23:37,958 (INHALES DEEPLY) It felt right. It felt right to me. 538 00:23:40,252 --> 00:23:45,173 ♪ ("EL NIÑO" BY WILLIE NELSON PLAYING) ♪ 539 00:23:48,051 --> 00:23:52,389 ♪ (INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 540 00:23:52,472 --> 00:23:56,601 TODD: Paul and the ATM finally made it to Acapulco. 541 00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:58,687 LISA: I had to guide him through some of the drive, 542 00:23:58,770 --> 00:24:00,647 because as you're driving alone 543 00:24:00,730 --> 00:24:03,775 in Mexico for days on end, you get a little loopy. 544 00:24:03,859 --> 00:24:06,695 So I had to be the mommy bear and kind of, 545 00:24:06,778 --> 00:24:09,156 "No one's following you. You're just, you need to take-- 546 00:24:09,239 --> 00:24:11,825 You need to go to sleep." You know? (CHUCKLES) 547 00:24:11,908 --> 00:24:13,702 TODD: But delays along the way caused him 548 00:24:13,785 --> 00:24:16,079 to miss the first three days of the conference. 549 00:24:16,163 --> 00:24:17,622 LILY: He was telling us what was going on 550 00:24:17,706 --> 00:24:20,584 the whole way down. He was like, "Oh, I got in a car accident. 551 00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:22,210 Oh, I got in another car accident, 552 00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:23,378 and these Mexicans helped me!" 553 00:24:25,338 --> 00:24:30,051 I remember meeting Paul the morning after he drove 554 00:24:30,135 --> 00:24:34,097 the battle bus through hell. (CHUCKLES) 555 00:24:34,181 --> 00:24:37,350 And he still was so disheveled, I remember just going... 556 00:24:37,434 --> 00:24:41,229 I just wanted, like-- I just wanted him to be fed and showered, and, you know... 557 00:24:42,981 --> 00:24:44,941 TODD: The battle bus broke down again immediately 558 00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:46,568 after Paul's arrival. 559 00:24:46,651 --> 00:24:49,237 So the ATM was loaded into John and Lily's pickup 560 00:24:49,321 --> 00:24:51,448 and delivered to its final resting place. 561 00:24:52,949 --> 00:24:55,785 Gustavo and Amparo's restaurant. 562 00:24:55,869 --> 00:24:57,954 AMPARO MANZAREZ: I remember the first time I saw it, 563 00:24:58,038 --> 00:25:02,417 and I was like, "What is this?" He was told, "I don't know." 564 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:04,169 ♪ (FAST PACED MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 565 00:25:04,252 --> 00:25:05,921 GUSTAVO: Nathan asked me, "Hey, Gustavo, 566 00:25:06,004 --> 00:25:07,589 what do you think about it? We're gonna bring 567 00:25:07,672 --> 00:25:10,634 the first Bitcoin ATM to Mexico." 568 00:25:10,717 --> 00:25:12,302 "Okay. Sounds cool. 569 00:25:14,179 --> 00:25:15,263 What-- But what's the purpose? 570 00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:18,558 Like, who wants to go to our organic store 571 00:25:18,642 --> 00:25:21,853 and exchange or pay with Bitcoin?" 572 00:25:21,937 --> 00:25:24,814 "Don't worry about it, like this is just the beginning." 573 00:25:25,774 --> 00:25:27,692 The day Paul brought the ATM, 574 00:25:27,776 --> 00:25:30,570 he said, "Of course, I'm an ex-Army, 575 00:25:30,654 --> 00:25:31,738 this was like a mission. 576 00:25:31,821 --> 00:25:34,241 Of course, I was going to get it done." 577 00:25:35,450 --> 00:25:39,704 He was very proud to bring the Bitcoin ATM to Acapulco. 578 00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:45,627 JOBY WEEKS: We started a club called BitClub. 579 00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:48,296 We basically are selling machines that print money, 580 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:50,465 that's what this is. Bitcoin-mining hardware 581 00:25:50,548 --> 00:25:52,801 is a machine that prints money. 582 00:25:54,719 --> 00:25:56,304 We've got a huge data center, 583 00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:58,306 whatever the data center generates each day 584 00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:00,058 is paid out to our investors, 585 00:26:00,141 --> 00:26:03,770 and we're paying these people in Bitcoin every single day. 586 00:26:03,853 --> 00:26:04,980 TODD: On its final day, 587 00:26:05,063 --> 00:26:07,983 the conference transformed into Cryptopulco, 588 00:26:08,066 --> 00:26:10,610 taking on an entirely different feel. 589 00:26:10,694 --> 00:26:13,947 The security of crypto market has improved. 590 00:26:14,030 --> 00:26:17,242 Here, we will be the first crypto currency to come out with a wallet. 591 00:26:17,325 --> 00:26:18,868 I made over 120,000 dollars 592 00:26:18,952 --> 00:26:21,663 in Bitcoin in this last 11 months. 593 00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:23,999 TODD: The group was laser-focused, 594 00:26:24,082 --> 00:26:26,209 mesmerized by the allure of a new way 595 00:26:26,293 --> 00:26:29,087 to build wealth outside of the established systems. 596 00:26:29,170 --> 00:26:31,506 CONFERENCE REPORTER: The last speaker was Roger Ver, 597 00:26:31,589 --> 00:26:33,341 the Bitcoin Jesus. 598 00:26:33,425 --> 00:26:35,218 The only way to stop Bitcoin would be to turn off 599 00:26:35,302 --> 00:26:37,971 the entire internet in the entire world 600 00:26:38,054 --> 00:26:39,306 and keep it turned off. 601 00:26:40,181 --> 00:26:41,558 Good luck stopping that. 602 00:26:43,685 --> 00:26:45,478 JOHN: The first couple of days a lot of the people 603 00:26:45,562 --> 00:26:46,730 I was talking to were saying, 604 00:26:46,813 --> 00:26:48,315 "Are you here for the Bitcoin conference?" 605 00:26:48,398 --> 00:26:50,442 -(CHUCKLES) -And I'm like, I guess, sort of. 606 00:26:50,525 --> 00:26:51,484 But I thought it was 607 00:26:51,568 --> 00:26:53,320 an anarchy conference. (CHUCKLES) 608 00:26:53,403 --> 00:26:55,447 What's a good investment, okay? 609 00:26:55,530 --> 00:26:58,908 JOHN: I would say a lot of them are more like business types 610 00:26:58,992 --> 00:27:01,328 or finance types that have only heard 611 00:27:01,411 --> 00:27:03,913 about some of this stuff because of Bitcoin. 612 00:27:03,997 --> 00:27:05,373 LILY: I was kind of going through 613 00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:06,833 the disappointment the first year of it, 614 00:27:06,916 --> 00:27:08,543 but I was like, "Oh, it's just the first year, 615 00:27:08,626 --> 00:27:10,628 people don't understand it." But by the second year, 616 00:27:10,712 --> 00:27:13,298 I was just like, "Okay, now, what the fuck?" 617 00:27:13,381 --> 00:27:16,551 Like, most of these people are like, 618 00:27:16,634 --> 00:27:19,012 "Yeah, we're anarchy and we're living the dream." 619 00:27:19,095 --> 00:27:23,141 And it's like, "Y'all still pay taxes, you still bank." 620 00:27:23,224 --> 00:27:26,144 JEFF: Quite amazing to see the growth of this, um... 621 00:27:26,227 --> 00:27:27,687 You know, something's definitely going on, 622 00:27:27,771 --> 00:27:28,813 this is interesting. 623 00:27:28,897 --> 00:27:32,484 There's a lot of things changing right now. 624 00:27:32,567 --> 00:27:35,195 JOHN: Something I think can be missed at this conference is, 625 00:27:35,278 --> 00:27:36,613 the money isn't the wealth, 626 00:27:36,696 --> 00:27:39,824 the wealth is many different forms, you know? 627 00:27:39,908 --> 00:27:42,035 Capital can take all different forms, 628 00:27:42,118 --> 00:27:43,787 not just economic capital. 629 00:27:43,870 --> 00:27:45,622 If we lose sight of our principles, 630 00:27:45,705 --> 00:27:47,874 if we lose sight of what got us here, 631 00:27:47,957 --> 00:27:49,626 we're gonna end up being worse 632 00:27:49,709 --> 00:27:52,003 than the people we are trying to replace. 633 00:27:52,087 --> 00:27:53,421 Yeah, there's a big, uh, 634 00:27:53,505 --> 00:27:56,674 "No infighting or no criticizing other anarchists" thing. 635 00:27:56,758 --> 00:28:01,388 But like, criticism is how we got here, you know? 636 00:28:01,471 --> 00:28:03,431 I just want to mention Nathan Freeman, 637 00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:04,724 done an amazing job. 638 00:28:04,808 --> 00:28:07,102 I just can't believe what a great job he's done. 639 00:28:07,185 --> 00:28:09,479 -(CROWD CHEERING AND APPLAUDING) -Thank you, guys. 640 00:28:09,562 --> 00:28:12,816 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE CONTINUES) 641 00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:16,027 LISA: After the conference... 642 00:28:18,613 --> 00:28:20,240 I was very pregnant. 643 00:28:20,323 --> 00:28:22,784 That only propelled me even further 644 00:28:22,867 --> 00:28:24,577 to... to be more involved 645 00:28:24,661 --> 00:28:27,455 in the peaceful parenting and unschooling. 646 00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:29,332 -If we create a generation... -(CHILD EXCLAIMING) 647 00:28:29,416 --> 00:28:32,043 -LISA: (ON VIDEO) Hi. -LISA: ...that is not exposed to violence, 648 00:28:32,127 --> 00:28:35,004 bullying, spanking, manipulation, 649 00:28:35,088 --> 00:28:36,631 especially around Santa Claus, 650 00:28:36,714 --> 00:28:38,466 you know, the behavioral modification, 651 00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:40,218 you know, "You won't get presents, 652 00:28:40,301 --> 00:28:42,470 Santa won't come unless you're good," 653 00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:45,098 all another level of control. 654 00:28:45,181 --> 00:28:49,561 We could create a world that starts to pull apart 655 00:28:49,644 --> 00:28:51,896 this normalcy of violence and programming 656 00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:54,023 that we-- some of us don't even see. 657 00:28:54,107 --> 00:28:57,902 And they lived happily ever after. 658 00:28:57,986 --> 00:28:59,946 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 659 00:29:00,029 --> 00:29:01,739 LISA: One of the things that I told Nathan 660 00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:03,283 when we first met was, 661 00:29:03,366 --> 00:29:06,995 I want to be the mom I never received. 662 00:29:07,078 --> 00:29:08,663 What the hell are you looking at? 663 00:29:08,746 --> 00:29:12,125 LISA: In the past, I had a lot of trauma around 664 00:29:12,208 --> 00:29:15,420 the parental-child relationship. 665 00:29:15,503 --> 00:29:19,215 My mom was not a very empathetic mother, um... 666 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:24,762 She was a narcissist. She was very toxic, 667 00:29:24,846 --> 00:29:25,847 she had her own issues, 668 00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:28,099 health issues, mental health issues. 669 00:29:28,183 --> 00:29:29,809 And, you know, I was very bitter. 670 00:29:30,935 --> 00:29:33,229 I believed, deep in my heart, 671 00:29:33,313 --> 00:29:36,107 that I deserved to be loved by my mom. 672 00:29:38,318 --> 00:29:40,487 The baby, she was supposed to come 673 00:29:40,570 --> 00:29:42,697 right during the conference. 674 00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:44,991 But she showed up, like, three weeks later. 675 00:29:45,074 --> 00:29:47,160 Freedom in learning, 676 00:29:47,243 --> 00:29:50,580 and respect in parenting is very, very important. 677 00:29:50,663 --> 00:29:52,749 LISA: Dayna was our doula. 678 00:29:52,832 --> 00:29:58,046 We bought a pool and 21 bottles of the Pur water. 679 00:29:58,129 --> 00:30:00,131 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 680 00:30:00,215 --> 00:30:04,052 LISA: My contractions started fast, fast, fast, fast. 681 00:30:04,135 --> 00:30:06,554 And within two hours, I was holding Irebel. 682 00:30:08,181 --> 00:30:12,685 No doctor, no nurse, no blood, no medicine, no nothing. 683 00:30:12,769 --> 00:30:16,648 Just my husband, my kids, and my best friend and doula. 684 00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:18,858 And now a baby. 685 00:30:18,942 --> 00:30:20,527 JEFF: Hey, everybody, welcome to another edition 686 00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:23,154 of Anarchast Over Anarchy on the internet. 687 00:30:23,238 --> 00:30:25,865 You can't see her, but she's right inside 688 00:30:25,949 --> 00:30:29,702 that little thing. It's Irebel, 689 00:30:29,786 --> 00:30:33,248 uh, which, if you say it kind of fast, "I rebel," 690 00:30:33,331 --> 00:30:35,542 uh, she was born last night 691 00:30:35,625 --> 00:30:37,293 at about 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning. 692 00:30:37,377 --> 00:30:39,045 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 693 00:30:39,128 --> 00:30:40,922 LISA: I did not realize 694 00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:44,551 how much we've been lied to in the hospital. 695 00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:45,760 They make it scary, 696 00:30:45,843 --> 00:30:47,929 they make it scary and they make it an emergency 697 00:30:48,012 --> 00:30:49,430 -'cause then you're willing... -(BABY CRYING) 698 00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:51,266 LISA: ...to listen to everything they say in the US 699 00:30:51,349 --> 00:30:53,351 and buy their medical business. 700 00:30:54,561 --> 00:30:58,273 And my experience here, it... it was really magical. 701 00:30:58,356 --> 00:31:01,568 I'm gonna try not to cry. (CHUCKLES) 702 00:31:01,651 --> 00:31:03,403 But it was extremely empowering 703 00:31:03,486 --> 00:31:05,280 to know that I do have the freedom 704 00:31:05,363 --> 00:31:07,865 to have my child the way I want to. 705 00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:09,492 NATHAN: It is a funny thought, 706 00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:11,411 that, like, the first thing they do with a baby 707 00:31:11,494 --> 00:31:13,413 in a hospital is measure it, 708 00:31:13,496 --> 00:31:14,706 type it, you know, 709 00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:17,584 they have to encode it in every way. 710 00:31:17,667 --> 00:31:20,086 It was just not a priority at all, like... 711 00:31:20,169 --> 00:31:21,296 Do you plan to get 712 00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:23,548 some sort of birth certificate or anything, or... 713 00:31:23,631 --> 00:31:25,425 There may be some advantages 714 00:31:25,508 --> 00:31:28,136 to her having a Mexico birth certificate, 715 00:31:28,219 --> 00:31:30,555 particularly around property ownership... 716 00:31:30,638 --> 00:31:33,182 but, right now, we have no specific plans to do it. 717 00:31:33,266 --> 00:31:34,809 We're certainly not gonna get her any kind 718 00:31:34,892 --> 00:31:37,186 -of US papers. -JEFF: No? 719 00:31:38,187 --> 00:31:40,607 -Hell no! (CHUCKLES) -Wow. 720 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:43,318 She'll be free and clear. (CHUCKLES) 721 00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:45,695 LISA: When you are born and you get a birth certificate, 722 00:31:45,778 --> 00:31:48,948 you become owned by that government. 723 00:31:49,032 --> 00:31:52,660 You're given the legal entitlement to be a human. 724 00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:56,039 Irebel is not documented, she's not been to a doctor, 725 00:31:56,122 --> 00:31:59,292 she's never been measured, she's never been compared. 726 00:31:59,375 --> 00:32:00,752 She's free! 727 00:32:00,835 --> 00:32:03,087 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 728 00:32:05,381 --> 00:32:07,258 So, Paul's kinda given me a good idea 729 00:32:07,342 --> 00:32:10,011 to maybe start a series where I just follow him around 730 00:32:10,094 --> 00:32:11,846 and just watch him freak out most of the day. 731 00:32:11,929 --> 00:32:14,057 -I want my hat back! -He's really interesting, as you can see. 732 00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:16,225 Give me my sweaty hat. Ew, it's so gross, man. 733 00:32:17,268 --> 00:32:19,187 All right, let's talk for a little bit. 734 00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:20,647 I forgot your fuckin' name already. 735 00:32:22,065 --> 00:32:23,608 JUAN: Right after the conference, 736 00:32:23,691 --> 00:32:25,360 Paul showed up at the Anarcastle. 737 00:32:26,778 --> 00:32:30,073 It's just like a four-bedroom house with five bathrooms, 738 00:32:30,156 --> 00:32:33,951 two living rooms, private pool, like two blocks from the beach. 739 00:32:34,035 --> 00:32:36,496 And it cost 1,000 dollars a month. 740 00:32:36,579 --> 00:32:38,081 HENZA: That was like kinda home base 741 00:32:38,164 --> 00:32:39,332 for a lot of people. 742 00:32:41,042 --> 00:32:42,210 Go to the Anarcastle 743 00:32:42,293 --> 00:32:43,711 and then there's like an actual room or a bed 744 00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:45,463 or something that you can crash on for a week 745 00:32:45,546 --> 00:32:47,382 or two until you find your own place. 746 00:32:47,465 --> 00:32:49,175 And it was full of anarchists. 747 00:32:51,302 --> 00:32:53,638 JUAN: Paul showed up in this little... 748 00:32:54,972 --> 00:32:55,973 school bus... 749 00:32:56,974 --> 00:32:59,435 and he parked in front of the Anarcastle, 750 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:01,771 and he just kind of stayed there. 751 00:33:01,854 --> 00:33:03,731 He was living off the truck and... 752 00:33:04,857 --> 00:33:06,150 we're like... 753 00:33:06,234 --> 00:33:08,361 "This guy still there? Like this guy's still parked 754 00:33:08,444 --> 00:33:10,029 in front of our house? Okay." 755 00:33:10,113 --> 00:33:12,699 So we stared to talk to Paul and he would talk 756 00:33:12,782 --> 00:33:14,367 about how he had some PTSD 757 00:33:14,450 --> 00:33:17,328 and had some action time in Afghanistan, 758 00:33:17,412 --> 00:33:20,873 "And I'm here to help you guys survive the Apocalypse, right?" 759 00:33:20,957 --> 00:33:23,209 Paul, right? (CHUCKLES) 760 00:33:24,127 --> 00:33:25,253 We kinda, like, agreed 761 00:33:25,336 --> 00:33:28,214 to let him sort of utilize the Anarcastle, right, 762 00:33:28,297 --> 00:33:29,966 the kitchen, bathroom, stuff for a while. 763 00:33:30,925 --> 00:33:35,138 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 764 00:33:38,766 --> 00:33:40,810 HENZA: Paul was doing physical training 765 00:33:40,893 --> 00:33:42,228 at the Anarcastle... 766 00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:47,442 trying to teach people how to hand-to-hand combat. 767 00:33:48,985 --> 00:33:50,862 He wanted to start a-- 768 00:33:50,945 --> 00:33:54,490 "An angry hippie dojo," I think that's the way he put it. 769 00:33:54,574 --> 00:33:57,452 -(MOUSE CLICKING) -♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 770 00:33:59,328 --> 00:34:00,580 (KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 771 00:34:00,663 --> 00:34:02,582 PAUL: This is the oath of a battle hippie 772 00:34:02,665 --> 00:34:05,126 and should be for all to take heart. 773 00:34:05,209 --> 00:34:08,755 I will be without fear in the face of my enemies. 774 00:34:08,838 --> 00:34:11,758 I will defend liberty, even if imprisoned. 775 00:34:11,841 --> 00:34:15,178 I will defend those who cannot defend themselves. 776 00:34:15,261 --> 00:34:18,306 ♪ (MUSIC INTENSIFIES) ♪ 777 00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:20,808 JUAN: I remember very clearly, he said to me, 778 00:34:20,892 --> 00:34:22,351 "The apocalypse is coming. 779 00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:24,604 When shit hits the fan, it's gonna get really bad." 780 00:34:25,646 --> 00:34:28,274 TODD: Were you taking it seriously? 781 00:34:28,357 --> 00:34:29,525 No, I mean... 782 00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:34,447 Paul was not a general, he was a foot soldier. 783 00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:36,824 -(MOUSE CLICKING) -(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 784 00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:38,785 PAUL: Getting back to training. 785 00:34:38,868 --> 00:34:41,496 I hold back the tears and swallow the pain. 786 00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:44,457 I let hurt start to rage. 787 00:34:45,541 --> 00:34:47,126 I know rage. 788 00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:49,295 Rage is more useful than pain. 789 00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:52,799 I let it take hold. 790 00:34:52,882 --> 00:34:56,719 I will use it to harden my heart and my fists. 791 00:34:56,803 --> 00:35:00,014 I will let it fuel me in my training... 792 00:35:00,097 --> 00:35:02,975 the training I will use to fix the shitty attitude 793 00:35:03,059 --> 00:35:04,977 of certain individuals. 794 00:35:07,146 --> 00:35:09,273 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 795 00:35:10,817 --> 00:35:14,237 GUSTAVO: When Paul put the ATM here in Acapulco, 796 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,949 it was not fully operational. They were expecting 797 00:35:18,032 --> 00:35:21,494 some software update, something like that. 798 00:35:23,579 --> 00:35:24,580 LILY: People kept going there 799 00:35:24,664 --> 00:35:27,250 like, "Hey, how do we turn this thing on?" 800 00:35:27,333 --> 00:35:30,169 I'm like, "We don't know, we've never set up a Bitcoin ATM, 801 00:35:30,253 --> 00:35:31,879 like, we don't know how to make it work." 802 00:35:31,963 --> 00:35:33,047 And they kept asking us about it. 803 00:35:33,130 --> 00:35:35,091 Like people keep coming in and asking to use it, 804 00:35:35,174 --> 00:35:36,217 and it's not even on. 805 00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:40,221 And I finally turned it on, 806 00:35:40,304 --> 00:35:42,223 and within a week, Interpol showed up. 807 00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:46,310 ♪ ("SILVER SPOON" BY PAUL DURANGO PLAYING) ♪ 808 00:35:46,394 --> 00:35:49,689 GUSTAVO: The police arrive, "Hey, this ATM is stolen." 809 00:35:49,772 --> 00:35:52,400 And I'm like, "It's not stolen. Like, dude..." 810 00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:56,821 LILY: They say, "We turned it on. And it said, 811 00:35:56,904 --> 00:35:58,114 'Here I am, come get me.'" 812 00:35:58,197 --> 00:36:00,324 You know, 'cause that's how they work. 813 00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:02,910 LISA: The Federales surrounded the restaurant 814 00:36:02,994 --> 00:36:06,539 and took the ATM back. And I was like, 815 00:36:06,622 --> 00:36:07,748 "Are you kidding me?" 816 00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:10,543 Why is there a stolen ATM at Anarchapulco? 817 00:36:10,626 --> 00:36:11,919 Like that sounds cool, 818 00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:13,337 but we're trying to do things, 819 00:36:13,421 --> 00:36:14,922 like, on the right side of the... 820 00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:18,050 You know? So that was a whole clusterfuck. 821 00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:21,137 TODD: After some investigation, 822 00:36:21,220 --> 00:36:22,763 I discovered that the Bitcoin ATM 823 00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:25,766 had originally been at a strip club in San Diego, 824 00:36:25,850 --> 00:36:28,436 where a disgruntled employee at the ATM company 825 00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:30,813 took possession of it and gave it to Paul. 826 00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:35,735 (WIND SWOOSHING) 827 00:36:35,818 --> 00:36:37,111 HENZA: After the conference, 828 00:36:37,194 --> 00:36:40,281 me and my wife, we went back to the States. 829 00:36:40,364 --> 00:36:42,158 And we were there, maybe like three days 830 00:36:42,241 --> 00:36:44,493 before she decided that she was gonna 831 00:36:44,577 --> 00:36:45,870 ask for a divorce. 832 00:36:47,204 --> 00:36:49,415 Actually not ask, yell at me for three days, 833 00:36:49,498 --> 00:36:52,168 and then tell me she wants a divorce. (CHUCKLES) 834 00:36:52,251 --> 00:36:54,795 ♪ (MELANCHOLY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 835 00:36:54,879 --> 00:36:56,964 HENZA: I decided after she left me, 836 00:36:57,048 --> 00:36:59,383 I was gonna go back to Acapulco. 837 00:36:59,467 --> 00:37:02,470 And before I go down there, I found out 838 00:37:02,553 --> 00:37:04,597 she's moving down there, and I thought, that's weird, 839 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,723 she hates Acapulco. 840 00:37:07,141 --> 00:37:10,144 And then she said she was moving into Modprobe's house. 841 00:37:12,313 --> 00:37:14,565 The force is with you, young Skywalker, 842 00:37:14,649 --> 00:37:16,609 but you are not a Jedi yet. 843 00:37:16,692 --> 00:37:18,069 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 844 00:37:18,152 --> 00:37:20,696 When I left you, I was but a learner... 845 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:22,615 LILY: And then, like, two weeks after that, 846 00:37:22,698 --> 00:37:26,035 Modprobe finally admitted, "Yes, she is coming to me." 847 00:37:26,118 --> 00:37:29,497 In my previous video, I described our open source, 848 00:37:29,580 --> 00:37:32,625 end-to-end, verifiable online voting software. 849 00:37:32,708 --> 00:37:34,335 HENZA: And apparently, like that whole time 850 00:37:34,418 --> 00:37:36,629 at his house, he was constantly saying, 851 00:37:36,712 --> 00:37:38,673 "I'll be your boyfriend" type thing and... 852 00:37:38,756 --> 00:37:41,425 (INHALES DEEPLY) And, um... 853 00:37:41,509 --> 00:37:45,012 yeah, she just decided that she found somebody better. 854 00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:48,724 (SMACKS LIPS) "You deliberately disobeyed me, Simba." 855 00:37:48,808 --> 00:37:50,017 ♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 856 00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:51,519 LILY: And then a few weeks later, 857 00:37:51,602 --> 00:37:53,980 Henza was, like, at the bottom of our driveway, 858 00:37:54,063 --> 00:37:56,315 sleeping in his van with his dog. 859 00:37:56,399 --> 00:37:58,234 I wake Henza up and he's like... 860 00:37:59,277 --> 00:38:01,946 "What? I'm gonna break his legs! Ah!" 861 00:38:03,447 --> 00:38:05,866 He would like wake up, get himself real angry 862 00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:09,328 in the morning, and then he'd go take a walk with the dog. 863 00:38:09,412 --> 00:38:12,832 -(BIRDS CHIRPING) -(UNICYCLE WHIRRS) 864 00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:19,338 ♪ (MELANCHOLY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 865 00:38:19,422 --> 00:38:22,299 LILY: He had a fuckin' unicycle, instead of walking. 866 00:38:22,383 --> 00:38:24,176 (UNICYCLE WHIRRING) 867 00:38:24,969 --> 00:38:26,387 LILY: It was a little sad. 868 00:38:27,805 --> 00:38:29,515 And then a certain time would roll around 869 00:38:29,598 --> 00:38:31,892 and he'd start drinking. And then it would just be like, 870 00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:34,311 Henza laying in the hammock crying. 871 00:38:34,395 --> 00:38:37,732 It was a while of this, you know, just him mourning 872 00:38:37,815 --> 00:38:39,025 the death of the life 873 00:38:39,108 --> 00:38:41,235 he thought that he was gonna live till he died. 874 00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:43,446 HENZA: This is my home. 875 00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:45,990 (DOG PANTING) 876 00:38:48,701 --> 00:38:51,078 HANZA: There's no sink in here, but... 877 00:38:51,162 --> 00:38:53,622 it's blue, and it's my favorite color. 878 00:38:53,706 --> 00:38:57,084 That's what really matters. 879 00:38:57,168 --> 00:38:59,420 TODD: Henza had been dependent on his wife's income 880 00:38:59,503 --> 00:39:01,297 for most of their relationship. 881 00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:05,426 Now, he had to find a place to live within his new budget. 882 00:39:05,509 --> 00:39:07,344 HENZA: So this is my kitchen. 883 00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:09,388 TODD: Seventy-five dollars a month. 884 00:39:09,472 --> 00:39:11,182 HENZA: I've got all my supplies here. 885 00:39:12,975 --> 00:39:14,435 I sorta got a view. 886 00:39:14,518 --> 00:39:15,686 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 887 00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:17,605 HENZA: My ego did take a bit of a hit 888 00:39:17,688 --> 00:39:19,440 thinking about, you know, my ex-wife moving 889 00:39:19,523 --> 00:39:21,317 into a mansion and dating someone 890 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,028 who had like a million dollars or something. 891 00:39:24,111 --> 00:39:26,447 -(DOG PANTING) -HENZA: This is my storage area 892 00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:27,948 that isn't covered. 893 00:39:28,032 --> 00:39:29,700 HENZA: But after that, 894 00:39:29,784 --> 00:39:31,744 there were less things to control me. 895 00:39:32,244 --> 00:39:33,412 (DOG PANTING) 896 00:39:33,496 --> 00:39:35,581 HENZA: It's really nice up here, I love it. 897 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:38,751 ♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 898 00:39:38,834 --> 00:39:40,169 TODD: Henza wasn't the only one having trouble 899 00:39:40,252 --> 00:39:41,837 with his love life. 900 00:39:41,921 --> 00:39:43,297 (MOUSE CLICKING) 901 00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:45,049 ♪ (MELANCHOLY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 902 00:39:45,132 --> 00:39:47,802 TODD: At the Anarcastle, a young woman who declined 903 00:39:47,885 --> 00:39:49,428 to participate in this project, 904 00:39:49,512 --> 00:39:50,805 was drawing the romantic interests 905 00:39:50,888 --> 00:39:52,640 of several castle residents... 906 00:39:52,723 --> 00:39:53,849 (MOUSE CLICKING) 907 00:39:53,933 --> 00:39:55,976 TODD: ...especially Paul. 908 00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:57,603 LISA: They were both perfect for each other 909 00:39:57,686 --> 00:39:58,979 'cause they were unstable 910 00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:01,941 and they liked to abuse drugs and alcohol. 911 00:40:02,024 --> 00:40:05,778 He fell for her pretty hard. He really, really liked her. 912 00:40:05,861 --> 00:40:08,114 But, as happens in romance sometimes, you know, 913 00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:09,406 like, there was like some conflict 914 00:40:09,490 --> 00:40:10,533 that started there. 915 00:40:10,616 --> 00:40:15,830 ♪ ("ROOMS" BY DAVID O'DPWDA PLAYING) ♪ 916 00:40:15,913 --> 00:40:17,790 JUAN: We didn't really know what happened, 917 00:40:17,873 --> 00:40:21,252 but Paul started to become very belligerent, 918 00:40:21,335 --> 00:40:24,380 he started to, like, escalate conflicts 919 00:40:24,463 --> 00:40:25,714 throughout the Anarcastle. 920 00:40:26,632 --> 00:40:30,636 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 921 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,847 JUAN: Eventually we kicked him out. 922 00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:35,474 (INDISTINCT CHATTER CONTINUES) 923 00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:40,646 -JOHN: Are we all good? -Good. 924 00:40:40,729 --> 00:40:41,814 JOHN: We good to go. 925 00:40:41,897 --> 00:40:45,234 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 926 00:40:46,402 --> 00:40:47,486 LILY: And it was Christmas Eve, 927 00:40:47,570 --> 00:40:49,655 I remember 'cause we sat in fucking traffic 928 00:40:49,738 --> 00:40:50,948 for three hours 929 00:40:51,031 --> 00:40:54,660 to go pick him and his shit up out of the Anarcastle... 930 00:40:54,743 --> 00:40:55,911 (DOG BARKING) 931 00:40:55,995 --> 00:40:57,663 LILY: ...and then bring him to my house. 932 00:40:57,746 --> 00:40:58,664 (DOG BARKING) 933 00:40:58,747 --> 00:41:00,166 Can somebody bring me a paper towel? 934 00:41:00,249 --> 00:41:02,293 Paul, are there paper towels in there? 935 00:41:02,376 --> 00:41:04,211 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 936 00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:06,505 LILY: Which I knew was a bad idea. 937 00:41:06,589 --> 00:41:09,592 LAUNCH CONTROL COMMENTATOR: Five, four... 938 00:41:09,675 --> 00:41:10,926 (EXHALES DEEPLY) 939 00:41:11,010 --> 00:41:13,554 LAUNCH CONTROL COMMENTATOR: ...three, two, one, ignition, 940 00:41:14,054 --> 00:41:15,389 liftoff. 941 00:41:15,472 --> 00:41:17,808 (ROCKET ENGINE ROARING) 942 00:41:17,892 --> 00:41:19,518 TODD: By the end of 2017, 943 00:41:19,602 --> 00:41:22,104 on the same day as the SpaceX launch... 944 00:41:22,188 --> 00:41:24,607 ♪ (ROCK MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 945 00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:26,859 TODD: ...the Acapulco Anarchist community would reach 946 00:41:26,942 --> 00:41:30,446 -an all-new high. -Yes! Yes! 947 00:41:30,529 --> 00:41:33,240 Boom shakalaka! Man! What an exciting day. 948 00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:35,075 NEWSCASTER: Bitcoin breaking major milestone. 949 00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:36,702 NEWSCASTER 2: Bitcoin surging... 950 00:41:36,785 --> 00:41:39,663 -...Bitcoin surged today... -And Bitcoin surging more... 951 00:41:39,747 --> 00:41:43,042 Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin. 952 00:41:43,125 --> 00:41:45,461 (IN DEEP VOICE) Give me the Bitcoin, where is it? 953 00:41:45,544 --> 00:41:47,254 TODD: After a slow and steady climb 954 00:41:47,338 --> 00:41:48,547 through most of the year, 955 00:41:48,631 --> 00:41:51,884 Bitcoin surged to over 19,000 dollars. 956 00:41:51,967 --> 00:41:53,719 So much money coming in. 957 00:41:53,802 --> 00:41:56,013 -An incredible run. -Sick gains! 958 00:41:56,096 --> 00:41:57,598 I'm sure by the time you see this video, 959 00:41:57,681 --> 00:41:58,682 it'll be even more. 960 00:41:58,766 --> 00:42:01,143 If you are one of those who was lucky enough 961 00:42:01,227 --> 00:42:04,438 to speculate on Bitcoin's rise and you cashed out, 962 00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,357 bravo to you. That's a win. 963 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,025 TODD: How did the 2017 964 00:42:08,108 --> 00:42:10,986 crypto boom affect your household? 965 00:42:12,821 --> 00:42:17,076 Um. (CLEARS THROAT) Ironic, I mean, we did well financially. 966 00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:19,161 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 967 00:42:19,245 --> 00:42:21,247 TODD: The crypto boom drew a clear line in the sand 968 00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:22,998 between community members. 969 00:42:23,082 --> 00:42:25,626 On one side, the overnight millionaires. 970 00:42:25,709 --> 00:42:26,961 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 971 00:42:27,044 --> 00:42:30,714 TODD: And on the other side, those who missed the bus. 972 00:42:30,798 --> 00:42:33,133 We collect nine Bitcoins. 973 00:42:33,217 --> 00:42:35,636 I asked him like, "Where is the nine Bitcoin?" 974 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,306 And he said, "I sold them." And I was like "No!" (CHUCKLES) 975 00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:41,183 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 976 00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:44,812 We had amassed, at our height, 130 Bitcoin. 977 00:42:44,895 --> 00:42:49,149 All of that Bitcoin had been spent trying to live off-grid. 978 00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:50,567 There was nothing left. 979 00:42:51,193 --> 00:42:52,194 (CHUCKLES) 980 00:42:54,238 --> 00:42:56,615 Very excited about Bitcoin, I'm wearing my tie. 981 00:42:56,699 --> 00:42:59,785 So many people are jumping into this virtual currency. 982 00:42:59,868 --> 00:43:01,704 It's created so much attention. 983 00:43:01,787 --> 00:43:03,789 It's just gonna be very interesting to see 984 00:43:03,872 --> 00:43:05,124 just how much this catches on. 985 00:43:05,207 --> 00:43:07,960 It just sounds so silly, but maybe it's not. 986 00:43:08,043 --> 00:43:10,421 TODD: And what about Jeff's music video? 987 00:43:11,964 --> 00:43:14,174 I've never watched it, because I can't. 988 00:43:14,258 --> 00:43:16,343 ♪ Straight to the moon Bitcoin all the way ♪ 989 00:43:16,427 --> 00:43:18,846 ♪ Dollar vigilante All up in your hearsay ♪ 990 00:43:18,929 --> 00:43:21,682 ♪ Dropping crypto knowledge Making the ladies go cray-cray ♪ 991 00:43:21,765 --> 00:43:24,018 ♪ Baby I'm old-school And you the new jack ♪ 992 00:43:24,101 --> 00:43:27,021 ♪ I've been walking on Bitcoin Since a hell long way back ♪ 993 00:43:27,104 --> 00:43:29,815 ♪ Track six years ago What friends of mine ♪ 994 00:43:29,898 --> 00:43:32,109 ♪ Told me to say Some Bitcoin rhyme ♪ 995 00:43:32,192 --> 00:43:35,070 ♪ So I bought some Bitcoin Around three bucks that day ♪ 996 00:43:35,154 --> 00:43:36,947 ♪ Now it's 2K On its way to 10K ♪ 997 00:43:37,031 --> 00:43:38,490 ♪ Fuck you Ben Bernanke ♪ 998 00:43:38,574 --> 00:43:40,659 I didn't-- I didn't-- I couldn't, like, 999 00:43:40,743 --> 00:43:41,785 I've never heard the song 1000 00:43:41,869 --> 00:43:44,246 because I can't. John was listening to it, 1001 00:43:44,330 --> 00:43:47,833 and I straight up ran outside and hung out with my chickens 1002 00:43:47,916 --> 00:43:49,585 until it was over. I couldn't handle it. 1003 00:43:49,668 --> 00:43:52,379 ♪ (MILD TEMPO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1004 00:43:52,463 --> 00:43:55,049 JEFF: As I got into puberty, I was so shy. 1005 00:43:55,132 --> 00:43:56,675 Like, I could literally not go 1006 00:43:56,759 --> 00:43:58,218 to a store and ask for something. 1007 00:43:58,302 --> 00:44:00,512 I always try to do the most extreme thing possible 1008 00:44:00,596 --> 00:44:03,307 to get myself out of something I wanna change. 1009 00:44:03,390 --> 00:44:07,561 So I was just like, I'll become a rapper. (CHUCKLES) 1010 00:44:07,644 --> 00:44:10,481 -♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(KEYBOARD CLACKING) 1011 00:44:10,564 --> 00:44:12,608 JEFF: So then I started the Jeff Steel Crew. 1012 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,985 Right when I was about 14, 1013 00:44:15,069 --> 00:44:16,653 and I show up at school the next day 1014 00:44:16,737 --> 00:44:18,530 with a ghetto blaster pumping Run DMC. 1015 00:44:18,614 --> 00:44:20,741 And like, every kid in school was like, "What the hell, 1016 00:44:20,824 --> 00:44:22,868 that's that kid we always beat up and now he's like..." 1017 00:44:22,951 --> 00:44:26,205 I... I bought a woman's fake gold belt... 1018 00:44:27,998 --> 00:44:32,878 which cost ten dollars, but it looked like a gold chain. 1019 00:44:32,961 --> 00:44:36,799 We actually became a little bit popular in Western Canada. 1020 00:44:36,882 --> 00:44:38,675 I actually almost opened for MC Hammer 1021 00:44:38,759 --> 00:44:40,219 'cause I knew the bartender at a bar 1022 00:44:40,302 --> 00:44:41,929 who was also a promoter of concerts. 1023 00:44:42,012 --> 00:44:44,348 I was supposed to do it, but then MC Hammer canceled. 1024 00:44:45,140 --> 00:44:46,975 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1025 00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:49,395 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 1026 00:44:49,478 --> 00:44:53,857 The growth that I saw, it was remarkable. 1027 00:44:55,442 --> 00:44:59,154 Initially, we came together on beliefs, 1028 00:44:59,238 --> 00:45:01,657 but now, we were not economic peers. 1029 00:45:01,740 --> 00:45:03,409 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1030 00:45:03,492 --> 00:45:06,745 NATHAN: We moved, we had a lovely new home. 1031 00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:08,163 LISA: We need a bigger place, 1032 00:45:08,247 --> 00:45:09,581 because Irebel obviously is getting bigger, 1033 00:45:09,665 --> 00:45:10,999 and so are the kids. 1034 00:45:11,083 --> 00:45:15,129 We were really doing well, we had lots of stuff happening. 1035 00:45:15,212 --> 00:45:18,674 Nathan and I saw a lot of ways in which it could 1036 00:45:18,757 --> 00:45:20,300 make really good money. 1037 00:45:20,384 --> 00:45:22,553 Like I wanted to build, like businesses 1038 00:45:22,636 --> 00:45:25,639 around the conference, just to make sure 1039 00:45:25,722 --> 00:45:28,809 that the community could feel our presence. 1040 00:45:29,977 --> 00:45:31,353 LILY: The way we saw it, 1041 00:45:31,437 --> 00:45:32,896 the Freemans were the gatekeepers. 1042 00:45:32,980 --> 00:45:34,940 The only people that came to Anarchapulco 1043 00:45:35,023 --> 00:45:36,233 were the ones that they wanted 1044 00:45:36,316 --> 00:45:37,693 to come to Anarchapulco, and that was it. 1045 00:45:37,776 --> 00:45:39,445 NATHAN: Everybody on this side... 1046 00:45:40,946 --> 00:45:42,531 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1047 00:45:42,614 --> 00:45:45,242 JOHN: Why are we having our anarchist conference 1048 00:45:45,325 --> 00:45:46,410 all around the world 1049 00:45:46,493 --> 00:45:48,662 be essentially top-run organizations 1050 00:45:48,745 --> 00:45:51,331 where the executive makes the decision 1051 00:45:51,415 --> 00:45:54,460 on who's important and how money is spent. 1052 00:45:54,543 --> 00:45:57,838 To us, it seems obvious that an anarchist conference 1053 00:45:57,921 --> 00:46:01,508 shouldn't be centralized like a pyramid scheme. 1054 00:46:01,592 --> 00:46:04,136 If we're gonna really put anarchy into action 1055 00:46:04,219 --> 00:46:06,305 and bring anarchy into the world, 1056 00:46:06,388 --> 00:46:08,098 the conferences that are spreading it 1057 00:46:08,182 --> 00:46:09,850 should kind of be at least 1058 00:46:09,933 --> 00:46:12,227 uh, experimental reflections of that. 1059 00:46:13,479 --> 00:46:14,980 LILY: Fuck this! 1060 00:46:15,063 --> 00:46:17,065 I did not sign up for this. 1061 00:46:17,149 --> 00:46:21,320 So we were like, "Let's Fork Anarchapulco." 1062 00:46:21,403 --> 00:46:24,114 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1063 00:46:24,198 --> 00:46:27,034 (KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 1064 00:46:33,624 --> 00:46:36,001 TODD: John and Lily decided to fork Anarchapulco 1065 00:46:36,084 --> 00:46:39,713 into a new version, just like in cryptocurrency development. 1066 00:46:39,797 --> 00:46:41,715 -(MOUSE CLICKING) -HENZA: When we don't like 1067 00:46:41,798 --> 00:46:43,091 the way a cryptocurrency functions, 1068 00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:45,010 and we want to see something different, 1069 00:46:45,093 --> 00:46:46,803 we duplicate it and then run it off 1070 00:46:46,887 --> 00:46:48,347 in their own paths. 1071 00:46:48,430 --> 00:46:51,016 So they're one, and then they start to fork off. 1072 00:46:52,476 --> 00:46:54,353 LILY: How do we make an event, 1073 00:46:54,436 --> 00:46:56,730 but make it so we're not in control of it? 1074 00:46:56,813 --> 00:46:59,233 Like, let people figure that out themselves. 1075 00:46:59,316 --> 00:47:01,777 HENZA: The Fork was decentralization. 1076 00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:04,863 What they wanted to do was have people just sign up 1077 00:47:04,947 --> 00:47:07,115 on the calendar and start their own workshop 1078 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:08,450 and advertise for their own workshop, 1079 00:47:08,534 --> 00:47:11,161 and the only thing they offered was a space to do it in. 1080 00:47:11,245 --> 00:47:13,372 Everything else is on you, and if you sell tickets 1081 00:47:13,455 --> 00:47:15,499 to your event, you get half the price of the tickets. 1082 00:47:17,459 --> 00:47:18,585 It was really cool. 1083 00:47:18,669 --> 00:47:21,380 -♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(MOUSE CLICKING) 1084 00:47:21,463 --> 00:47:23,966 LILY: We were trying to do Anarchaforko to say, 1085 00:47:24,049 --> 00:47:25,425 "Hey, we don't like to just complain 1086 00:47:25,509 --> 00:47:26,802 about what we don't like. 1087 00:47:26,885 --> 00:47:28,846 You know, we like to just build what we'd rather see." 1088 00:47:28,929 --> 00:47:32,641 -♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ -(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 1089 00:47:40,816 --> 00:47:42,150 (MOUSE CLICKING) 1090 00:47:42,234 --> 00:47:45,237 JEFF: I'm way up in the hills of dangerous Acapulco, Mexico, 1091 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,325 with a couple of defectors from the US empire, the USSA, 1092 00:47:50,409 --> 00:47:53,245 John and Lily. You guys were even discussing, 1093 00:47:53,328 --> 00:47:54,413 and you just posted on Steemit recently, 1094 00:47:54,496 --> 00:47:55,581 that you're thinking about having like, 1095 00:47:55,664 --> 00:47:57,958 what you call it is Forking Anarchapulco. 1096 00:47:58,041 --> 00:47:59,126 Why don't you talk about 1097 00:47:59,209 --> 00:48:01,420 a little bit of what you have in mind? 1098 00:48:01,503 --> 00:48:04,548 Well, the whole structure in general will be less formal 1099 00:48:04,631 --> 00:48:05,966 and more organic... 1100 00:48:06,049 --> 00:48:08,635 LILY: We wanted Jeff involved. We wanted it to be 1101 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,138 this big, you know, thing. 1102 00:48:11,221 --> 00:48:14,975 He, like, mentions the Fork in one of his videos. 1103 00:48:15,058 --> 00:48:17,019 It makes sense to fork that, Forking Anarchapulco. 1104 00:48:17,102 --> 00:48:18,562 -Fork away. -Okay. 1105 00:48:18,645 --> 00:48:20,022 -All right. -Uh, this is the crypto era. 1106 00:48:20,105 --> 00:48:22,441 I'm obviously not going to use the government 1107 00:48:22,524 --> 00:48:24,943 to patent laws to say "Hey! This is Anarchapulco, 1108 00:48:25,027 --> 00:48:27,946 you can't fork Anarchapulco." Obviously not... 1109 00:48:28,030 --> 00:48:29,573 LILY: And then after that, 1110 00:48:29,656 --> 00:48:32,075 we asked him like, "Hey, do you wanna come? 1111 00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:34,036 Do you wanna speak? Like, do you wanna be involved?" 1112 00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:38,081 And he said, "I want nothing to do with your stupid event." 1113 00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:39,791 And we were like, "Ah, so the Freemans 1114 00:48:39,875 --> 00:48:41,251 have been talking to him." 1115 00:48:41,335 --> 00:48:42,794 Anarchaforko. Yeah, 1116 00:48:42,878 --> 00:48:44,296 it sounds very like, "Go fuck yourself." 1117 00:48:44,379 --> 00:48:47,507 I don't know why. (LAUGHS) I'm sorry. Anarch-go-fork-you. 1118 00:48:49,176 --> 00:48:50,802 JEFF: It was weird, it was just weird. 1119 00:48:50,886 --> 00:48:53,180 They came here and they wanted to attack me, 1120 00:48:53,263 --> 00:48:57,768 or my thing, or my Anarchapulco. "We're gonna do another one. 1121 00:48:57,851 --> 00:49:00,228 We're gonna fuck your shit up." (CHUCKLES) 1122 00:49:00,312 --> 00:49:01,605 LILY: Everything that he was hearing 1123 00:49:01,688 --> 00:49:03,190 came from the Freemans, and the Freemans were like, 1124 00:49:03,273 --> 00:49:05,400 "They're trying to replace our conference. 1125 00:49:05,484 --> 00:49:08,320 They're trying to take this away from you." 1126 00:49:08,403 --> 00:49:10,197 TODD: What do you think their motivation was? 1127 00:49:10,906 --> 00:49:12,908 Knowing their personality... 1128 00:49:14,076 --> 00:49:17,037 you're gonna get this on camera, but to be spiteful. 1129 00:49:18,747 --> 00:49:21,375 ♪ (INQUISITIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1130 00:49:21,458 --> 00:49:22,834 LILY: The Freemans had this rule 1131 00:49:22,918 --> 00:49:25,379 and they had told everybody but us this, like, 1132 00:49:25,462 --> 00:49:29,007 "If we're having public events, don't invite John and Lily, 1133 00:49:29,091 --> 00:49:30,550 they're not welcome. We don't want them 1134 00:49:30,634 --> 00:49:32,344 anywhere near us or our family." 1135 00:49:36,973 --> 00:49:38,392 LISA: Uh, yes, but I don't want to talk 1136 00:49:38,475 --> 00:49:40,560 -about it on camera, no. -(BOTH CHUCKLE) 1137 00:49:40,644 --> 00:49:41,895 LILY: It was just kinda like... 1138 00:49:41,978 --> 00:49:45,148 (INHALES DEEPLY) ..."Okay, there's this weird cold war 1139 00:49:45,232 --> 00:49:46,900 that I didn't even start myself, 1140 00:49:46,983 --> 00:49:49,528 but I am responsible for." (CHUCKLES) 1141 00:49:51,571 --> 00:49:53,532 You know this isn't my good side. 1142 00:49:53,615 --> 00:49:55,033 -(CHUCKLES) -LISA: 1143 00:49:55,117 --> 00:49:57,035 -(CHUCKLES) Yeah. -LISA: 1144 00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:58,161 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1145 00:49:58,245 --> 00:49:59,788 LILY: I thought that it was just gonna be 1146 00:49:59,871 --> 00:50:01,206 fuckin' weird forever with them. 1147 00:50:01,289 --> 00:50:03,500 And then eventually one of us would leave Acapulco 1148 00:50:03,583 --> 00:50:05,252 'cause we would get tired of the weirdness. 1149 00:50:05,335 --> 00:50:07,921 (INHALES DEEPLY) Which is what happened, 1150 00:50:08,004 --> 00:50:10,799 technically speaking, but it had to get really weird I guess, 1151 00:50:10,882 --> 00:50:11,925 for that to happen. 1152 00:50:12,843 --> 00:50:13,927 TODD: How weird? 1153 00:50:14,010 --> 00:50:15,178 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1154 00:50:15,262 --> 00:50:18,765 (INHALES DEEPLY) Murder weird. (CHUCKLES) 1155 00:50:18,849 --> 00:50:23,019 ♪ (THEME MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1156 00:51:47,771 --> 00:51:51,733 ♪ (THEME MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪