1 00:00:14,055 --> 00:00:17,225 (SNOWBLOWER WHIRRING) 2 00:00:24,190 --> 00:00:27,652 (AIRPLANE ENGINE ROARING) 3 00:00:30,405 --> 00:00:33,867 ♪ ("WE'RE COMING BACK” BY COCK SPARRER PLAYING) ♪ 4 00:00:33,950 --> 00:00:36,911 ♪ We're coming back We're coming back ♪ 5 00:00:36,995 --> 00:00:39,539 ♪ We're coming back to you ♪ 6 00:00:39,622 --> 00:00:43,585 ♪ We're never gonna Go away again... ♪ 7 00:00:44,878 --> 00:00:45,962 All righty, 8 00:00:46,045 --> 00:00:48,256 we are here in the airport, getting ready to leave. 9 00:00:48,339 --> 00:00:49,507 Right by the duty-free shop 10 00:00:49,591 --> 00:00:51,509 as you can see good things there you can get. 11 00:00:51,593 --> 00:00:54,137 Lookie who I found sitting right here. 12 00:00:54,220 --> 00:00:55,847 -Hello there, Gina. -Hello there. 13 00:00:55,930 --> 00:00:57,390 All right, well, hey, we will see around 14 00:00:57,474 --> 00:00:59,142 as we continue the adventure here 15 00:00:59,225 --> 00:01:01,311 for Anarchapulco 2018. 16 00:01:01,394 --> 00:01:06,441 ♪ And you'll never walk Alone again... ♪ 17 00:01:07,817 --> 00:01:11,112 We're taking a trip to Mexico, I'm really excited. 18 00:01:11,196 --> 00:01:12,989 I'm not so much of an anarchist. 19 00:01:13,072 --> 00:01:15,074 I don't even like that word, per se. 20 00:01:17,285 --> 00:01:18,286 TRAVELER: A G4. 21 00:01:21,122 --> 00:01:24,125 ♪ We're gonna run We're gonna crawl ♪ 22 00:01:24,209 --> 00:01:27,086 ♪ Kick down every wall ♪ 23 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:31,174 ♪ It won't be long We're coming back to you... ♪ 24 00:01:31,257 --> 00:01:32,342 DAYNA MARTIN: We are here... 25 00:01:32,425 --> 00:01:34,636 -Anarchapulco, ready to go! -...so, we did it! 26 00:01:34,719 --> 00:01:37,514 (CHEERS) I finally made it! Oh! 27 00:01:37,597 --> 00:01:40,809 (SPEAKS GERMAN) 28 00:01:40,892 --> 00:01:42,227 (IN ENGLISH) Look at that. 29 00:01:42,310 --> 00:01:44,896 (CHUCKLES) That's just the parking lot. 30 00:01:44,979 --> 00:01:47,816 It's hotter than damn donut grease here right now. 31 00:01:47,899 --> 00:01:51,027 ♪ We're coming back We're coming back ♪ 32 00:01:51,110 --> 00:01:52,654 ♪ We're coming back to you... ♪ 33 00:01:52,737 --> 00:01:54,447 NATHAN FREEMAN: So, I'm sitting there at the computer 34 00:01:54,531 --> 00:01:56,241 and I'm trying to find a flight for somebody, 35 00:01:56,324 --> 00:02:00,537 and like there's no flights available to Acapulco. 36 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:02,163 There's 20 flights a day. 37 00:02:02,247 --> 00:02:04,791 There should be hundreds of seats available. 38 00:02:04,874 --> 00:02:09,462 And then I was like, "Oh shit, that's us!” 39 00:02:09,546 --> 00:02:10,964 (LAUGHS) 40 00:02:11,047 --> 00:02:13,883 -Oh, my God... -These are all anarchists. 41 00:02:13,967 --> 00:02:17,345 Like every fucking seat on every plane, 42 00:02:17,428 --> 00:02:19,264 Anarchapulco, all booked out. 43 00:02:19,347 --> 00:02:23,309 ♪ And you'll never walk Alone again ♪ 44 00:02:23,393 --> 00:02:25,478 -That's badass, man. -(LAUGHS) 45 00:02:34,279 --> 00:02:36,197 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 46 00:02:36,281 --> 00:02:39,576 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 47 00:02:39,659 --> 00:02:40,869 -LEE ANN: Nathan! -NATHAN: Hey, Lee Ann. 48 00:02:40,952 --> 00:02:42,829 -How are you? -LEE ANN: Good, how are you? 49 00:02:43,454 --> 00:02:45,123 NATHAN: Insane. 50 00:02:45,206 --> 00:02:47,000 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 51 00:02:47,083 --> 00:02:48,793 TODD SCHRAMKE: I had been following this community 52 00:02:48,877 --> 00:02:51,170 for about two years at this point... 53 00:02:51,254 --> 00:02:53,131 and the sudden burst of the crypto markets 54 00:02:53,214 --> 00:02:56,050 was, by far, the most pivotal thing to happen yet. 55 00:03:01,681 --> 00:03:03,057 The next conference was happening 56 00:03:03,141 --> 00:03:06,227 just two months after Bitcoin's 20,000-dollar peak. 57 00:03:06,728 --> 00:03:10,064 (INAUDIBLE) 58 00:03:13,401 --> 00:03:16,195 TODD: And with that, the rest of the world wanted in. 59 00:03:17,238 --> 00:03:20,199 And the anarchists? They wanted more. 60 00:03:21,534 --> 00:03:23,661 JEFF BERWICK: Most of our people were buying into Bitcoin 61 00:03:23,745 --> 00:03:26,247 at like, 30 dollars, 50 dollars, 100 dollars. 62 00:03:26,331 --> 00:03:28,791 It went to 20,000 dollars that year, so all of a sudden, 63 00:03:28,875 --> 00:03:30,793 like, most people had a lot of money. 64 00:03:30,877 --> 00:03:32,170 I mean, everyone was coming in on... 65 00:03:32,253 --> 00:03:34,130 (CHUCKLING) ...private jets and yachts. 66 00:03:34,213 --> 00:03:35,214 Everything was sold out, 67 00:03:35,298 --> 00:03:37,216 the whole place was packed with people. 68 00:03:37,300 --> 00:03:39,469 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 69 00:03:39,552 --> 00:03:42,347 ♪ (MUSIC TURNS DRAMATIC) ♪ 70 00:03:42,430 --> 00:03:44,057 TODD: How are you feeling right now? 71 00:03:44,432 --> 00:03:47,018 (LAUGHS) 72 00:03:47,101 --> 00:03:49,729 Uh, we, technically, we haven't really even started, 73 00:03:49,812 --> 00:03:51,606 and I'm already exhausted. 74 00:03:51,689 --> 00:03:54,567 But I'm feeling pretty good, like, I'm excited 75 00:03:54,651 --> 00:03:57,195 and it's going to be, in the words that I've used 76 00:03:57,278 --> 00:03:59,864 to describe it to the team, "Fucking Epic!" 77 00:04:03,368 --> 00:04:06,079 -♪ (MUSIC INTENSIFIES) ♪ -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 78 00:04:11,709 --> 00:04:13,461 MC: What's up, Anarchapulco? 79 00:04:13,544 --> 00:04:18,257 (AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 80 00:04:22,553 --> 00:04:24,305 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 81 00:04:26,975 --> 00:04:28,101 ♪ (HEROIC MUSIC PLAYS) ♪ 82 00:04:28,184 --> 00:04:29,769 TRAILER NARRATOR 1: There was an idea... 83 00:04:32,438 --> 00:04:35,441 TRAILER NARRATOR 2: ...to bring together a group of remarkable people... 84 00:04:37,819 --> 00:04:40,863 TRAILER NARRATOR 3: ...to see if we could become something more. 85 00:04:42,031 --> 00:04:43,157 TRAILER NARRATOR 4: In time, 86 00:04:43,241 --> 00:04:45,994 the state will know what it's like to lose. 87 00:04:57,422 --> 00:05:02,802 (AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 88 00:05:02,885 --> 00:05:05,179 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 89 00:05:05,263 --> 00:05:08,182 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE CONTINUE) 90 00:05:11,310 --> 00:05:15,523 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING, APPLAUDING) 91 00:05:15,606 --> 00:05:17,191 Welcome to Anarchapulco. 92 00:05:17,275 --> 00:05:19,027 -(AUDIENCE CHEERING) -♪ (LIVELY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 93 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:22,864 LARKEN ROSE: The state as a whole, as an institution 94 00:05:22,947 --> 00:05:25,533 functions down to the detail 95 00:05:25,616 --> 00:05:28,453 the way toxic narcissists function. 96 00:05:28,536 --> 00:05:30,163 ROGER VER: Can I see a quick show of hands, 97 00:05:30,246 --> 00:05:32,498 who here paid for their attendance here 98 00:05:32,582 --> 00:05:33,875 in cryptocurrency? 99 00:05:33,958 --> 00:05:36,335 Get all your friends and family and everybody else around you 100 00:05:36,419 --> 00:05:39,756 using, uh, Bitcoin Cash, Dash, Ethereum, take your pick, uh... 101 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,257 They're all wonderful at this point. 102 00:05:41,340 --> 00:05:43,593 DAYNA: For me, this started with parenting. 103 00:05:43,676 --> 00:05:45,553 -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) -Anarchist-type of parenting 104 00:05:45,636 --> 00:05:46,971 is what I want to share with you. 105 00:05:47,055 --> 00:05:49,265 -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDS) -JEFF: And we're not going away. 106 00:05:50,183 --> 00:05:51,768 You can't stop a good idea. 107 00:05:51,851 --> 00:05:55,104 RADIO HOST: Jeff Berwick, the Dollar Vigilante is with us. 108 00:05:55,188 --> 00:05:56,147 Hello, guys. 109 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:57,356 RADIO HOST: This is a huge event. 110 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,901 I mean, it, it went from large last year 111 00:05:59,984 --> 00:06:01,861 to now, what? 1,700 people? 112 00:06:01,944 --> 00:06:03,362 JEFF: I keep hearing the number go up. 113 00:06:03,446 --> 00:06:05,990 Uh, I think it's somewhere between 14 and 1,700... 114 00:06:06,074 --> 00:06:08,201 -RADIO HOST: Yeah. -...something like that. 115 00:06:08,284 --> 00:06:10,620 LISA FREEMAN: Our audience became broader. 116 00:06:10,703 --> 00:06:14,749 Usually, there's a lot more men, and bachelor men, 117 00:06:14,832 --> 00:06:16,084 you know, and like five women. 118 00:06:16,167 --> 00:06:17,752 And they're just like... (PANTS) 119 00:06:17,835 --> 00:06:18,961 (CHUCKLING) You know, like... 120 00:06:19,045 --> 00:06:22,173 It really makes women not want to go. 121 00:06:22,256 --> 00:06:23,966 And so we started workshops for women, 122 00:06:24,050 --> 00:06:26,594 so we could get them to feel more comfortable. 123 00:06:26,677 --> 00:06:29,180 -♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ -If you're ready to take a step forward in your life, 124 00:06:29,263 --> 00:06:32,100 I invite you to come forward, yeah? 125 00:06:32,183 --> 00:06:33,935 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -Come forward, stand up. 126 00:06:39,941 --> 00:06:44,529 ♪ (DREAMY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 127 00:06:44,612 --> 00:06:48,074 Shamanism and energy work is an important aspect of, 128 00:06:48,157 --> 00:06:49,784 you know, the anarchy movement. 129 00:06:53,371 --> 00:06:55,581 FACILITATOR: The thing is that it's super male, 130 00:06:55,665 --> 00:06:57,208 it's a lot of male energy. 131 00:06:57,291 --> 00:07:00,378 It definitely needs the other aspect of it, 132 00:07:00,461 --> 00:07:02,380 the heart, creativity, 133 00:07:02,463 --> 00:07:04,382 and an intuition kind of balancing it. 134 00:07:04,465 --> 00:07:08,219 LISA: We started to get more attendees that were women. 135 00:07:08,302 --> 00:07:11,347 Workshops were full. Everything was full. 136 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:14,183 -♪ (MUSIC TURNS FRANTIC) ♪ -♪ We got the conference We can scream it loud ♪ 137 00:07:14,267 --> 00:07:15,601 ♪ Or we can sit down ♪ 138 00:07:15,685 --> 00:07:17,436 ♪ For the silence Of the... ♪ 139 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,313 Hey, hey, we're here at Anarchapulco 140 00:07:19,397 --> 00:07:21,816 with the bitcoin.com. Hey! (CHUCKLES) 141 00:07:21,899 --> 00:07:24,402 LISA: Tons of energy, cameras, 142 00:07:24,485 --> 00:07:27,238 you know, interviews happening all over the place. 143 00:07:27,321 --> 00:07:29,282 But, yeah, this has got-- definitely taken on a life 144 00:07:29,365 --> 00:07:30,575 of its own now, and it's a very... 145 00:07:30,658 --> 00:07:33,369 We have public data and then we have private data. 146 00:07:34,829 --> 00:07:36,581 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 147 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,627 Our conference had a lot more sponsorship. 148 00:07:41,711 --> 00:07:43,129 ANNOUNCER: It's never been easier to reap 149 00:07:43,212 --> 00:07:45,298 the rewards of cryptocurrency mining. 150 00:07:45,381 --> 00:07:46,465 LISA: Like BitClub. 151 00:07:46,549 --> 00:07:48,259 I've been blessed to be able to come back, 152 00:07:48,342 --> 00:07:49,552 year after year and speak and talk 153 00:07:49,635 --> 00:07:51,220 about all the cool projects we're doing. 154 00:07:51,304 --> 00:07:52,722 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 155 00:07:52,805 --> 00:07:55,641 LISA: We had a lot of big names. 156 00:07:55,725 --> 00:07:58,436 We've got motherfucking Ron Paul in the house. 157 00:07:58,519 --> 00:07:59,520 (AUDIENCE CHEERING) 158 00:07:59,604 --> 00:08:00,897 If you become aware of these things, 159 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:03,649 then you have a moral obligation to do something about it, 160 00:08:03,733 --> 00:08:05,276 and that is to spread a message. 161 00:08:05,359 --> 00:08:06,652 So, we just realized 162 00:08:06,736 --> 00:08:10,865 Wu-Tang Clan is here to learn about crypto 163 00:08:10,948 --> 00:08:13,284 and they're gonna perform tonight. 164 00:08:13,367 --> 00:08:15,661 ♪ Cash rules Everything around me ♪ 165 00:08:15,745 --> 00:08:18,831 ♪ C.R.E.A.M., get the money Dollar dollar bill, y'all ♪ 166 00:08:18,915 --> 00:08:19,957 (AUDIENCE CHEERS) 167 00:08:20,041 --> 00:08:22,084 ♪ Straight to the moon Bitcoin all the way ♪ 168 00:08:22,168 --> 00:08:24,629 ♪ Dollar vigilante All up in your hearsay ♪ 169 00:08:24,712 --> 00:08:25,880 ♪ Dropping crypto knowledge ♪ 170 00:08:25,963 --> 00:08:27,798 ♪ Making the ladies Go cray-cray... ♪ 171 00:08:27,882 --> 00:08:30,051 LISA: The energy was so overwhelming, 172 00:08:30,134 --> 00:08:31,302 in a positive way. 173 00:08:31,385 --> 00:08:34,514 It was a paradise for anarchists and freedom lovers. 174 00:08:38,684 --> 00:08:40,353 LILY FORESTER: During Anarchapulco that year, 175 00:08:40,436 --> 00:08:43,272 I felt like a fish out of water, I hated it. 176 00:08:43,356 --> 00:08:46,234 ♪ You too Yellen I see what you're sellin'... ♪ 177 00:08:46,317 --> 00:08:49,153 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 178 00:08:52,782 --> 00:08:54,659 LILY: "Oh, look, we're gonna take over this hotel 179 00:08:54,742 --> 00:08:55,910 as anarchists." 180 00:08:55,993 --> 00:08:57,578 Like, "Look at how big we are, look at how big we are, 181 00:08:57,662 --> 00:08:58,579 look at how big we are!" 182 00:09:01,666 --> 00:09:03,459 Everybody was cocky as hell. 183 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:06,128 (CROWD CHEERING) 184 00:09:06,212 --> 00:09:08,548 LILY: Everybody had extra money to burn, 185 00:09:08,631 --> 00:09:09,715 so they were burning it. 186 00:09:13,010 --> 00:09:15,596 We were all high on crypto, right? 187 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:17,807 And so, everybody was feeling like a baller, 188 00:09:17,890 --> 00:09:20,226 money was moving around, it was a big party. 189 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:23,396 LILY: They're all like, "I'm fucking gods," 190 00:09:23,479 --> 00:09:26,440 -you know, "We're the shit! We're all the shit!" -♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 191 00:09:26,524 --> 00:09:30,236 (DANCE MUSIC THUMPING) 192 00:09:30,319 --> 00:09:32,697 (PENSIVE MUSIC RESUMES) 193 00:09:32,780 --> 00:09:35,825 Most people are at the weird vibe beach party. 194 00:09:35,908 --> 00:09:37,493 LILY: 195 00:09:37,576 --> 00:09:40,246 -(CHUCKLES) -LILY: 196 00:09:40,329 --> 00:09:42,957 I don't wanna be immersed in this vibe 197 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,334 because Anarchapulco is just getting more of that, 198 00:09:45,418 --> 00:09:46,752 like, you know, 199 00:09:46,836 --> 00:09:49,422 "Let's be rock stars" type of thing. 200 00:09:49,505 --> 00:09:52,008 It was almost like a reinforcement of like, 201 00:09:52,091 --> 00:09:53,592 this is why I'm doing the Fork. 202 00:09:55,511 --> 00:09:57,596 JOHN GALTON: If Anarchapulco becomes 203 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:59,682 about being on vacation with people 204 00:09:59,765 --> 00:10:01,350 that call themselves anarchists, 205 00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:05,229 we'll lose the whole idea that it was born around. 206 00:10:06,647 --> 00:10:08,316 TODD: John and Lily scheduled Anarchaforko 207 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:11,986 to happen just one week after Anarchapulco. 208 00:10:12,069 --> 00:10:14,905 The conferences weren't affiliated in any way, 209 00:10:14,989 --> 00:10:16,240 so the success of the Fork 210 00:10:16,324 --> 00:10:19,285 hinged entirely on their ability to promote it themselves. 211 00:10:20,494 --> 00:10:23,039 I was just so exhausted. 212 00:10:23,122 --> 00:10:26,917 Socializing and getting people excited about Anarchaforko. 213 00:10:27,001 --> 00:10:30,504 JOHN: We did not attend any speakers this year, 214 00:10:30,588 --> 00:10:32,798 yeah, we had too much to do, managing our lives 215 00:10:32,882 --> 00:10:36,177 and getting ready for the Fork during the daylight hours. 216 00:10:36,260 --> 00:10:37,678 Most of the time we were getting here 217 00:10:37,762 --> 00:10:40,598 just as the sun was going down and were almost here 218 00:10:40,681 --> 00:10:41,766 until the sun was coming up. 219 00:10:41,849 --> 00:10:44,185 -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -(SEAGULLS SQUAWKING) 220 00:10:46,312 --> 00:10:47,813 LILY: I literally disassociated 221 00:10:47,897 --> 00:10:50,733 my way through that entire conference. 222 00:10:50,816 --> 00:10:56,405 And then, like, Paul was trying to be a little mini kingpin. 223 00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:59,658 ♪ (UNNERVING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 224 00:11:02,119 --> 00:11:04,455 LILY: Selling cocaine at Anarchapulco. 225 00:11:05,790 --> 00:11:08,376 I don't know where Paul found that source, honestly, 226 00:11:08,459 --> 00:11:11,504 but he had the source before he moved in with us. 227 00:11:13,297 --> 00:11:17,927 We though he could be stealthy enough, you know? 228 00:11:18,010 --> 00:11:19,970 So, we had him selling our edibles too. 229 00:11:20,054 --> 00:11:22,765 So, like, the idea was, he was going to get 230 00:11:22,848 --> 00:11:25,393 people's contact information and meet them places, 231 00:11:25,476 --> 00:11:28,104 and like do it real decentralized, like, 232 00:11:28,187 --> 00:11:30,606 and try to not even do the drug sales 233 00:11:30,689 --> 00:11:32,858 on the property of The Princess if he could. 234 00:11:34,193 --> 00:11:36,821 But Paul couldn't do anything with subtleness... 235 00:11:37,822 --> 00:11:40,199 that wasn't in his vocabulary. 236 00:11:40,282 --> 00:11:42,952 He went to the venue, and like... 237 00:11:44,036 --> 00:11:46,664 he set up shop in some dude's room. 238 00:11:48,833 --> 00:11:53,671 (DISTORTED CHEERING) 239 00:11:58,634 --> 00:12:00,678 JASON HENZA: He had all the party favors. 240 00:12:00,761 --> 00:12:03,597 He got his hands on everything and was distributing 241 00:12:03,681 --> 00:12:05,808 to everybody to make sure everyone had a good time. 242 00:12:05,891 --> 00:12:09,478 (CHEERING CONTINUES) 243 00:12:09,562 --> 00:12:13,816 LILY: Everybody was like, "Have you tried Paul's cocaine yet?” 244 00:12:13,899 --> 00:12:15,317 Like, I'd be talking about the conference 245 00:12:15,401 --> 00:12:18,195 and people would be like, "Have you tried Paul's cocaine”" 246 00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:21,657 TODD: Paul even posted flyers for his services on Facebook, 247 00:12:21,740 --> 00:12:25,161 using an alias account he created under his alter ego 248 00:12:25,244 --> 00:12:26,871 "Shepard Spook.” 249 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,207 LILY: We told him it was a stupid idea, 250 00:12:30,291 --> 00:12:32,334 but we couldn't do anything about it. 251 00:12:32,418 --> 00:12:35,254 He was so obvious, everybody knows who he was. 252 00:12:37,798 --> 00:12:40,801 HENZA: He was up for days on end, using. 253 00:12:40,885 --> 00:12:44,138 He wasn't necessarily grounded to reality. 254 00:12:45,890 --> 00:12:47,683 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 255 00:12:47,766 --> 00:12:49,727 TODD: John and Lily invited us up to the room 256 00:12:49,810 --> 00:12:51,061 where Paul was working. 257 00:12:53,856 --> 00:12:57,276 But they insisted we absolutely could not film anything. 258 00:12:59,904 --> 00:13:01,780 -♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(KNOCKING AT DOOR) 259 00:13:01,864 --> 00:13:05,951 (FAINT INDISTINCT CHATTER) 260 00:13:08,078 --> 00:13:12,291 LILY: He would set up a table, like, with his wares... 261 00:13:12,374 --> 00:13:13,709 (KNOCKING AT DOOR) 262 00:13:13,792 --> 00:13:15,628 ...wait for people to knock on the door 263 00:13:15,711 --> 00:13:18,881 and come in and order their drugs, 264 00:13:18,964 --> 00:13:20,633 sometimes do them. 265 00:13:20,716 --> 00:13:22,092 (SNIFFING) 266 00:13:22,176 --> 00:13:24,512 It's almost like, dude, you're not even supposed to be staying there, 267 00:13:24,595 --> 00:13:25,721 like, you don't stay there. 268 00:13:25,804 --> 00:13:28,557 You're supposed to leave with the drugs 269 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:32,186 and go somewhere offsite, like, that's Drug Dealing 101. 270 00:13:33,145 --> 00:13:34,396 TODD: Lily told us repeatedly 271 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,107 that, although, Paul was selling cannabis products for them, 272 00:13:37,191 --> 00:13:39,610 he was selling cocaine purely on his own. 273 00:13:40,819 --> 00:13:43,155 But they all seemed to be taking a huge risk. 274 00:13:48,410 --> 00:13:50,204 LILY: Paul started getting into straight-up 275 00:13:50,287 --> 00:13:53,707 like chases and stuff with their security team, 276 00:13:53,791 --> 00:13:55,417 'cause they were trying to get rid of him. 277 00:13:58,003 --> 00:13:59,255 Because he was our roommate, 278 00:13:59,338 --> 00:14:00,923 he would come up and he'd talk to us, 279 00:14:01,006 --> 00:14:02,883 so the security started watching us too. 280 00:14:02,967 --> 00:14:04,093 And it was just like... 281 00:14:05,219 --> 00:14:09,223 this is not okay. Not okay at all. We were pissed. 282 00:14:09,306 --> 00:14:13,936 (DISTORTED RAPPING) 283 00:14:14,019 --> 00:14:17,273 LISA: When you run a conference in Acapulco, 284 00:14:17,356 --> 00:14:20,234 when you have a lot of Americans showing up 285 00:14:20,317 --> 00:14:21,902 to a touristy place... 286 00:14:23,988 --> 00:14:25,281 they're gonna want to party. 287 00:14:25,364 --> 00:14:28,993 And so, we got to know the people 288 00:14:29,076 --> 00:14:30,869 that would supply our conference. 289 00:14:34,498 --> 00:14:39,003 Nathan received a phone call from our supplier. 290 00:14:39,086 --> 00:14:41,088 He said that there are gringos 291 00:14:41,171 --> 00:14:43,882 in a hotel room selling cocaine... 292 00:14:43,966 --> 00:14:47,636 and "We're coming in, they're done." 293 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,473 Nathan said, "Can you please not do that at the conference? 294 00:14:51,557 --> 00:14:53,392 Let me go talk to them." 295 00:14:53,475 --> 00:14:54,810 Nathan told them, you need to stop 296 00:14:54,893 --> 00:14:57,688 or there's going to be serious consequences. 297 00:15:01,150 --> 00:15:02,818 -They stopped... -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 298 00:15:02,901 --> 00:15:06,822 ...so we didn't end up having a shootout at the conference. 299 00:15:08,282 --> 00:15:09,783 TODD: Kym and I went in that room. 300 00:15:09,867 --> 00:15:12,578 So-- so-- you-- you-- you can contest to 301 00:15:12,661 --> 00:15:14,330 that they were selling drugs, right? 302 00:15:14,413 --> 00:15:16,874 -TODD: We don't know. We were there, they invited us, -You-- but you knew-- 303 00:15:16,957 --> 00:15:21,420 but my memory was John and Lily were just hanging out in there 304 00:15:21,503 --> 00:15:24,965 and they were doing some drugs. Um... 305 00:15:25,883 --> 00:15:28,010 -As far as selling... -LISA: Mm-hmm. 306 00:15:28,093 --> 00:15:30,638 ...I didn't see them actually doing anything. 307 00:15:30,721 --> 00:15:32,556 (BREATHES DEEPLY) Well, that's the best part. 308 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,850 The people in charge don't do the stuff. 309 00:15:34,933 --> 00:15:36,018 They have somebody else do it, 310 00:15:36,101 --> 00:15:38,520 so then they're never doing anything. Yeah. 311 00:15:39,271 --> 00:15:42,149 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 312 00:15:47,071 --> 00:15:49,698 NATHAN: Did you pay me for the ICO thing? 313 00:15:56,413 --> 00:15:57,831 Well, well, he's going on now. 314 00:15:57,915 --> 00:15:59,667 But he wasn't here, so, we had to break. 315 00:15:59,750 --> 00:16:01,377 What? 316 00:16:01,460 --> 00:16:03,003 -Jeff... -HOST: Ladies and gentlemen, 317 00:16:03,087 --> 00:16:05,547 -please take your seats, we're about to begin.. -Wait, hang on, 318 00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:08,008 -...the final extravaganza... -where's this going? 319 00:16:08,092 --> 00:16:11,053 -...of Anarchapulco 2018. -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 320 00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:12,096 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 321 00:16:12,179 --> 00:16:15,265 JEFF: Coco, Kolo, come here, Randall. 322 00:16:15,349 --> 00:16:17,726 We're sits. A lot of sits. 323 00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:18,811 (DOG WHIMPERS) 324 00:16:18,894 --> 00:16:22,106 JEFF: Jedi, sits. Okay, go. 325 00:16:22,189 --> 00:16:24,233 (DOGS BARKING) 326 00:16:25,442 --> 00:16:29,488 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 327 00:16:29,571 --> 00:16:30,572 So, um... 328 00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:34,535 there's an article that just came out today. 329 00:16:34,618 --> 00:16:37,246 In it, he called me a, "Recluse, 330 00:16:37,329 --> 00:16:40,082 watching the conference on livestream 331 00:16:40,165 --> 00:16:42,918 from his mansion in the hills," is what he said. 332 00:16:43,001 --> 00:16:45,254 And I laughed at it first because it sounded like crazy, 333 00:16:45,337 --> 00:16:47,047 like I'm Howard Hughes or something. 334 00:16:48,549 --> 00:16:50,634 But then I thought about it, I'm like, 335 00:16:50,718 --> 00:16:52,094 "Well, that's actually what I'm doing, 336 00:16:52,177 --> 00:16:54,263 so, am I a recluse? Is that what I am?" 337 00:16:54,346 --> 00:16:55,389 I don't know. 338 00:16:56,473 --> 00:16:57,808 I've actually been a little depressed 339 00:16:57,891 --> 00:16:59,935 the last couple of days. 340 00:17:00,018 --> 00:17:02,271 Like, there must be a reason I feel that way, right? 341 00:17:02,354 --> 00:17:05,607 Now I have to think about that, why do I-- why do I feel so alone 342 00:17:05,691 --> 00:17:07,484 when I'm surrounded by so many people? 343 00:17:07,568 --> 00:17:10,404 And I've realized, a lot of them stem from my childhood. 344 00:17:13,532 --> 00:17:15,451 I blocked out a lot of my childhood. 345 00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:19,413 I don't really remember a lot. 346 00:17:21,457 --> 00:17:23,459 I had no friends, really. I was a computer nerd, 347 00:17:23,542 --> 00:17:25,502 I was always getting beat up at school. 348 00:17:26,795 --> 00:17:29,298 And my dad said maybe 30 words to me my whole life, 349 00:17:29,381 --> 00:17:31,675 and it was usually "Shut up.” 350 00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:36,096 I was just like, you know, 15, 16. And all of a sudden 351 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:38,682 I actually got all this anger inside of me. 352 00:17:39,850 --> 00:17:42,644 I learned how to ignore all my emotions. 353 00:17:47,524 --> 00:17:49,109 I'm going through so many changes, 354 00:17:49,193 --> 00:17:50,444 and so, this is like... 355 00:17:51,695 --> 00:17:54,740 You know, I'm not drinking at this conference, and, uh... 356 00:17:55,491 --> 00:17:56,825 without the alcohol, 357 00:17:56,909 --> 00:17:58,744 I just don't want to be around people and talk to people. 358 00:18:00,996 --> 00:18:02,998 CONFERENCE HOST: His closing words for this conference 359 00:18:03,081 --> 00:18:06,043 are about to come, listen to this 360 00:18:06,126 --> 00:18:08,504 as we welcome, Jeff Berwick! 361 00:18:08,587 --> 00:18:14,384 (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING, CHEERING) 362 00:18:17,304 --> 00:18:19,681 JEFF: 363 00:18:19,765 --> 00:18:23,435 (AUDIENCE APPLAUDS, CHEERS) 364 00:18:25,354 --> 00:18:26,522 JEFF: 365 00:18:28,398 --> 00:18:31,360 (AUDIENCE APPLAUDS, CHEERS) 366 00:18:34,571 --> 00:18:35,823 LISA: Nathan learned very quickly 367 00:18:35,906 --> 00:18:38,367 that Berwick wasn't somebody he could rely on... 368 00:18:39,243 --> 00:18:41,745 and he became a babysitter. 369 00:18:42,538 --> 00:18:44,081 Basically, Nathan did everything 370 00:18:44,164 --> 00:18:46,166 and Berwick really, once in a while 371 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:48,710 would say, "How are things?” 372 00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:50,629 So we're at the end of Cryptopulco here 373 00:18:50,712 --> 00:18:52,381 I've actually been watching most of the speeches 374 00:18:52,464 --> 00:18:53,674 all throughout Anarchapulco... 375 00:18:53,757 --> 00:18:56,134 LARKEN: With Nathan, you could see he really believed 376 00:18:56,218 --> 00:18:57,469 in what he was doing and he cared 377 00:18:57,553 --> 00:19:01,390 about trying to organize a thousand things at once... 378 00:19:01,473 --> 00:19:04,560 doing a million things that really shouldn't have had to be his job. 379 00:19:04,643 --> 00:19:06,854 -(AMANDA ROSE CHUCKLES) -Instead of going, "That isn't my job,” 380 00:19:06,937 --> 00:19:08,981 which almost anybody else would've... 381 00:19:09,064 --> 00:19:12,025 because he so much believed in the underlying goal. 382 00:19:12,109 --> 00:19:14,653 -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDS) -JEFF: I knew I could do it. 383 00:19:14,736 --> 00:19:16,864 LISA: Nathan was getting exhausted. 384 00:19:18,198 --> 00:19:21,869 It started to get on the family because he's absent, 385 00:19:21,952 --> 00:19:25,163 completely absent from the kids. 386 00:19:26,748 --> 00:19:27,958 Ira Belle was a baby, 387 00:19:28,041 --> 00:19:31,587 so I was in a different stress-level mode for sure. 388 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:34,047 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 389 00:19:34,131 --> 00:19:36,133 LISA: It just became more and more clear 390 00:19:36,216 --> 00:19:39,094 how much the conference affected us, personally. 391 00:19:40,596 --> 00:19:41,847 NATHAN: I'll see them during the day. 392 00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:43,599 Axiom would run up to me. He'd be, like, "Daddy!” 393 00:19:43,682 --> 00:19:45,267 and he'd give me a hug and I'd be like, 394 00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:48,604 "Hey, sorry, I gotta go!” 395 00:19:48,687 --> 00:19:52,357 I... I think at one point we literally had this exchange. 396 00:19:52,441 --> 00:19:54,735 "I'm a single mom taking care of three kids.” 397 00:19:54,818 --> 00:19:56,069 -Yep. -"I'm a single dad 398 00:19:56,153 --> 00:19:58,155 taking care of 1,700 kids.” 399 00:19:58,238 --> 00:20:00,407 -It's my role as an activist... -(IRA BELLE FREEMAN FUZZING) 400 00:20:00,490 --> 00:20:05,495 ...to-- to help facilitate this vision. 401 00:20:05,579 --> 00:20:07,205 NATHAN: We're trying to change the world. 402 00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:09,374 Is there a limit 403 00:20:09,458 --> 00:20:11,418 to the sacrifice that you're willing to make 404 00:20:11,501 --> 00:20:13,170 to fix the broken world? 405 00:20:14,546 --> 00:20:15,714 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 406 00:20:15,797 --> 00:20:18,634 PODCAST HOST: Welcome to SmartCash SmartTalk Radio. 407 00:20:18,717 --> 00:20:20,427 ♪ (DREAMY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 408 00:20:20,510 --> 00:20:22,930 PODCAST HOST: And we have Lily and John 409 00:20:23,013 --> 00:20:24,264 with Anarchaforko. 410 00:20:25,557 --> 00:20:30,103 How would you like to introduce our audience to Anarchaforko 411 00:20:30,187 --> 00:20:31,480 and tell us what it's about? 412 00:20:34,816 --> 00:20:38,612 LILY: Honestly, um, most people don't understand it yet. 413 00:20:38,695 --> 00:20:41,156 It's kind of a completely different idea, 414 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,784 'cause everybody with a ticket can add an event. 415 00:20:45,869 --> 00:20:47,412 You know, it's not up to us, 416 00:20:47,496 --> 00:20:49,748 it's up to them to do it themselves. 417 00:20:51,708 --> 00:20:54,169 That we want to give people the opportunity 418 00:20:54,252 --> 00:20:57,422 to sculpt the experience they want out of Anarchaforko. 419 00:20:57,506 --> 00:20:58,882 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 420 00:21:00,926 --> 00:21:03,220 ♪ (ELECTRONIC BEAT PLAYING) ♪ 421 00:21:04,346 --> 00:21:06,890 ♪ (SYNTHESIZER PLAYING) ♪ 422 00:21:06,974 --> 00:21:10,102 ♪ (CALM SYNTH MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 423 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,729 JOHN: The whole idea of this thing 424 00:21:12,813 --> 00:21:14,648 is it's supposed to be the participants 425 00:21:14,731 --> 00:21:17,401 that do most of the actual content. 426 00:21:17,484 --> 00:21:19,486 They all seemed to wait until the last minute... 427 00:21:19,569 --> 00:21:20,737 -(CHUCKLES) -...to advertise 428 00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:23,740 what they were doing. So, to us organizers, 429 00:21:23,824 --> 00:21:26,159 it almost seemed like nothing was going to happen. 430 00:21:29,454 --> 00:21:31,373 ♪ (MUSIC SWELLS, FADES) ♪ 431 00:21:32,249 --> 00:21:33,625 ONLOOKER: Whoo! 432 00:21:33,709 --> 00:21:36,628 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 433 00:21:37,295 --> 00:21:40,257 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 434 00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:44,720 JOHN: We're most excited to see just what people put on 435 00:21:44,803 --> 00:21:46,805 and what people are interested in. 436 00:21:46,888 --> 00:21:48,390 -I've had so many people... -(CHUCKLES) 437 00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:49,516 ...come up to me today, 438 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:52,102 and I was even a little worried myself. 439 00:21:52,185 --> 00:21:53,562 They're like, "What are we doing today?" 440 00:21:53,645 --> 00:21:56,440 And I was like, "Well, maybe I should look on the schedule." 441 00:21:56,523 --> 00:21:58,817 (TUNING FORK CHIMES) 442 00:22:01,778 --> 00:22:04,823 PRESENTER: So that way, the more we use the system, 443 00:22:04,906 --> 00:22:08,076 the more financially we benefit from it. 444 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:11,872 LILY: There was everything from like, 445 00:22:11,955 --> 00:22:16,126 workshops on aromatherapy to like jam sessions. 446 00:22:16,209 --> 00:22:17,794 It was pretty much like all the stuff 447 00:22:17,878 --> 00:22:19,504 that people were saying that they wanted to do 448 00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:21,256 at Anarchapulco, but that Anarchapulco 449 00:22:21,339 --> 00:22:22,924 was currently too big to do. 450 00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:24,676 ERIKA HARRIS: You start to reorganize stuff 451 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,719 from the inside, 452 00:22:25,802 --> 00:22:27,971 you are making change on the outside. 453 00:22:28,055 --> 00:22:29,556 So, that's why I'm saying how we could bring 454 00:22:29,639 --> 00:22:30,932 more anarchy into the world, 455 00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:32,184 -is actually by... -Yep. 456 00:22:32,267 --> 00:22:34,853 ...honoring these things on the micro level... 457 00:22:34,936 --> 00:22:38,106 This was completely free and voluntary 458 00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:39,733 and self-organized. 459 00:22:39,816 --> 00:22:42,277 And it was spontaneous! That's the thing. 460 00:22:44,362 --> 00:22:46,239 HENZA: I loved it. I love the idea, 461 00:22:46,323 --> 00:22:48,533 I love the start to it, it was humble. 462 00:22:48,617 --> 00:22:52,746 It wasn't, you know, this extravagant thing. 463 00:22:52,829 --> 00:22:53,997 JOHN: It's kind of your baby, 464 00:22:54,081 --> 00:22:55,874 so you always want more and whatnot, 465 00:22:55,957 --> 00:22:57,167 but we definitely weren't disappointed 466 00:22:57,250 --> 00:22:59,669 with the numbers we got. It was above our minimum, 467 00:22:59,753 --> 00:23:01,088 to consider it a success, 468 00:23:01,171 --> 00:23:03,006 so we were happy with it, you know? 469 00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:05,092 -Yeah. -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 470 00:23:05,175 --> 00:23:08,345 This is the OG Broncnutz from the 719 West West, 471 00:23:08,428 --> 00:23:10,764 still down here and Anarchaforko, 472 00:23:10,847 --> 00:23:13,141 we're with some SmartCash developers, 473 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:14,142 which I told y'all 474 00:23:14,226 --> 00:23:15,519 -I was gonna bring. -(BOTH CHUCKLE) 475 00:23:15,602 --> 00:23:16,853 LILY: SmartCash sponsored us. 476 00:23:16,937 --> 00:23:19,147 SmartCash is like a fork of Bitcoin. 477 00:23:19,231 --> 00:23:20,607 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 478 00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:22,776 LILY: And they sent representatives and everything 479 00:23:22,859 --> 00:23:24,861 as part of, you know, the package. 480 00:23:26,696 --> 00:23:29,699 LILY: Well, Paul, being what he was... 481 00:23:31,201 --> 00:23:33,787 "You wanna try some cocaine? You wanna try some cocaine? 482 00:23:33,870 --> 00:23:35,080 You wanna try some cocaine?" 483 00:23:35,163 --> 00:23:37,749 It was literally to everybody, including our sponsors. 484 00:23:39,042 --> 00:23:42,337 After that, SmartCash just wasn't really around. 485 00:23:42,420 --> 00:23:44,297 We just thought they were flaky. 486 00:23:44,381 --> 00:23:46,842 We started to, like, plan the next one 487 00:23:46,925 --> 00:23:48,885 and we contacted SmartCash, and they're like, 488 00:23:48,969 --> 00:23:51,847 "We're not interested because of this guy, 489 00:23:51,930 --> 00:23:54,182 who said he represented your event.” We're like, 490 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:57,519 "He had nothing to do other than that he was there, 491 00:23:57,602 --> 00:23:59,980 and that he was staying with us at the time.” 492 00:24:00,063 --> 00:24:02,941 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 493 00:24:04,734 --> 00:24:06,444 JOHN: 494 00:24:10,073 --> 00:24:11,449 (FIREWORK BLASTING) 495 00:24:16,371 --> 00:24:18,915 HENZA: That was the point where John and Lily just decided 496 00:24:18,999 --> 00:24:20,417 they didn't want anything to do with him. 497 00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:21,501 They locked him out. 498 00:24:21,585 --> 00:24:22,711 They didn't want him there anyway 499 00:24:22,794 --> 00:24:24,379 and they didn't give him a key and they made sure 500 00:24:24,462 --> 00:24:25,881 that the doors were locked. 501 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,010 TODD: And then you step in. 502 00:24:30,093 --> 00:24:32,512 Yeah, well, I-- I... yeah, actually. 503 00:24:32,596 --> 00:24:34,097 I didn't say, "You can stay with me.” 504 00:24:34,181 --> 00:24:35,807 He just says, "I got no place to go, brother, 505 00:24:35,891 --> 00:24:37,517 they put my stuff out in the street now.” 506 00:24:39,227 --> 00:24:41,021 We picked up his stuff and put it in a van 507 00:24:41,104 --> 00:24:42,814 and moved it down to my house. 508 00:24:42,898 --> 00:24:44,191 I took him in because I felt bad 509 00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:45,400 and we were bro-y. 510 00:24:47,694 --> 00:24:49,821 And John said, "Don't let him move in with you." 511 00:24:49,905 --> 00:24:53,241 And I'm thinking, "Don't tell me what to do, you know, 512 00:24:53,325 --> 00:24:55,452 like-- like, what are you doing?" 513 00:24:55,535 --> 00:24:57,913 LILY: We were just like, "Why are you helping him?" 514 00:24:57,996 --> 00:25:00,040 And he was like, "Somebody has to." 515 00:25:01,291 --> 00:25:03,084 And we're like, "Good luck!" 516 00:25:03,168 --> 00:25:07,088 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 517 00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:09,174 TODD: It seemed that these two divergent visions 518 00:25:09,257 --> 00:25:13,553 of an anarchist conference could potentially coexist. 519 00:25:13,637 --> 00:25:15,263 But this new foundation that the community 520 00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:19,434 had built itself on was beginning to crack. 521 00:25:19,517 --> 00:25:22,520 PODCAST HOST: Bitcoin has fallen from 16,000 dollars 522 00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:25,315 to, currently it's about 9,000 dollars 523 00:25:25,398 --> 00:25:27,317 NEWSCASTER: Bitcoin continues its steep slide 524 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,152 down more than 20 percent. 525 00:25:29,236 --> 00:25:31,655 How low can Bitcoin go? 526 00:25:31,738 --> 00:25:33,281 Today we will, of course, be talking about 527 00:25:33,365 --> 00:25:35,951 the latest drop in the crypto markets. 528 00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:38,119 TODD: Bitcoin was slowly declining in value 529 00:25:38,203 --> 00:25:40,372 ever since its peak the year before. 530 00:25:40,455 --> 00:25:41,665 We need to find a bottom, 531 00:25:41,748 --> 00:25:43,583 and then once we find a bottom, we build a foundation... 532 00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:45,835 (SMACKS LIPS) ...we go up. That's how it works. 533 00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:49,422 TODD: But still hungover from 2017's crypto euphoria, 534 00:25:49,506 --> 00:25:51,299 the movement doubled down. 535 00:25:51,383 --> 00:25:53,468 I'm holding on to my damn coins, I'm not giving up! 536 00:25:53,551 --> 00:25:56,179 The fact of the matter is that this is a completely normal 537 00:25:56,263 --> 00:25:59,808 market retracement to a wild and crazy 2017. 538 00:25:59,891 --> 00:26:02,894 Scared money don't make no money, man. Fuck it! 539 00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:04,562 It's just so hard for me to fathom Bitcoin 540 00:26:04,646 --> 00:26:05,939 going that low, honestly. 541 00:26:06,022 --> 00:26:07,107 The time to buy 542 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:09,276 is when there's blood in the streets. 543 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,821 The blood is in the streets. So, what are you gonna do? 544 00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:17,033 TODD: Despite the hope for a long-term rebound, 545 00:26:17,117 --> 00:26:20,120 the community's crypto lifeblood was being drained... 546 00:26:21,705 --> 00:26:23,623 threatening their forward momentum. 547 00:26:32,882 --> 00:26:35,802 NATHAN: Anarchapulco put a lot of stress on our family. 548 00:26:35,885 --> 00:26:37,429 LISA: Every year, it's kind of like 549 00:26:37,512 --> 00:26:40,390 when you have children, you forget the first six months 550 00:26:40,473 --> 00:26:41,516 after they're born. 551 00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:45,395 -LISA: (CHUCKLES) Yay! -CHILD: Yay! 552 00:26:45,478 --> 00:26:47,480 So, you're like, "Oh, you know what, 553 00:26:47,564 --> 00:26:49,941 let's have kids," and you forget 554 00:26:50,025 --> 00:26:51,985 what-- How much of a struggle it can be, 555 00:26:52,068 --> 00:26:54,487 um, so you keep doing it again. 556 00:26:54,571 --> 00:26:56,489 -You're really hungry? -Yeah. 557 00:26:56,573 --> 00:26:58,366 -What would you like to have? -I don't know. 558 00:26:58,450 --> 00:27:00,744 -Wait, what if we put... -I don't know how to make "I don't know.” 559 00:27:00,827 --> 00:27:02,370 LISA: We're actually out of "I don't know.” 560 00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:03,621 Yeah, I know... 561 00:27:03,705 --> 00:27:05,832 LISA: You were feeling nauseous throughout the day. 562 00:27:05,915 --> 00:27:08,209 NATHAN: Yeah, I'd wake up shaking, and go to bed crying. 563 00:27:08,293 --> 00:27:09,669 I'd have nightmares where we were about 564 00:27:09,753 --> 00:27:11,713 to start the conference and I realized I'd forgotten 565 00:27:11,796 --> 00:27:13,548 to buy any of the plane tickets for the speakers. 566 00:27:13,631 --> 00:27:15,216 Or like you didn't have pants, 567 00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:17,385 -and, you know. -(LAUGHS) 568 00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:18,511 Drink? 569 00:27:19,346 --> 00:27:20,805 I'm having one. 570 00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:23,600 ♪ (DREAMY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 571 00:27:23,683 --> 00:27:25,977 LISA: He was getting exhausted. 572 00:27:26,061 --> 00:27:27,771 I told him it was time that we started 573 00:27:27,854 --> 00:27:30,106 getting some help with the conference. 574 00:27:30,190 --> 00:27:31,900 And I really pushed. 575 00:27:31,983 --> 00:27:35,111 I'm like, "We need to get somebody professional 576 00:27:35,195 --> 00:27:37,906 to be sort of more in the background 577 00:27:37,989 --> 00:27:39,991 -doing the logistics." -(LAUGHS) 578 00:27:40,075 --> 00:27:41,534 LISA: "And you can do the big stuff, 579 00:27:41,618 --> 00:27:43,119 and, you know, we can do the ideas 580 00:27:43,203 --> 00:27:45,205 and the management, you know, aspects, 581 00:27:45,288 --> 00:27:48,291 but, logistically, we need to start delegating." 582 00:27:48,375 --> 00:27:49,542 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 583 00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:52,379 Jeff agreed we needed to have more people involved 584 00:27:52,462 --> 00:27:54,381 and we wanted to bring on somebody full-time. 585 00:27:54,464 --> 00:27:56,007 (AUDIENCE APPLAUDS) 586 00:27:56,091 --> 00:27:59,052 NATHAN: And I suggested bringing on Dayna Martin. 587 00:27:59,886 --> 00:28:00,970 Hi, everybody. 588 00:28:01,054 --> 00:28:04,099 NATHAN: She had such a deep background 589 00:28:04,182 --> 00:28:05,266 with Anarchapulco. 590 00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:09,437 She had been to all four events up to that year. 591 00:28:09,521 --> 00:28:10,897 I'm here tonight with Larken Rose 592 00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:12,899 and Amanda Rachwitz. Hey, guys! 593 00:28:12,982 --> 00:28:14,150 -Hi. -Hey. 594 00:28:14,234 --> 00:28:17,862 NATHAN: She knew the speakers, she knew the audience. 595 00:28:17,946 --> 00:28:21,241 I think that compassion is an instinctual... 596 00:28:21,324 --> 00:28:23,076 emotion within us, we're born with it... 597 00:28:23,159 --> 00:28:24,619 NATHAN: And she has great creative ideas 598 00:28:24,702 --> 00:28:27,664 about how to set up events like this. 599 00:28:28,706 --> 00:28:31,126 Berwick had somebody else in mind, 600 00:28:31,209 --> 00:28:32,627 her name was Jessica Kill. 601 00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:35,130 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 602 00:28:35,213 --> 00:28:37,006 NATHAN: She approached Jeff Berwick and said, 603 00:28:37,090 --> 00:28:40,427 I've got all this experience producing events in Hollywood, 604 00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:44,305 why don't you let me help produce Anarchapulco next year? 605 00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:47,475 And she was already embedded in the conference 606 00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:48,977 through BitClub. 607 00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:52,272 She was their main logistical person. 608 00:28:52,355 --> 00:28:54,649 NATHAN: She seemed professionally competent, 609 00:28:54,732 --> 00:28:56,609 definitely assertive. 610 00:28:56,693 --> 00:28:58,111 Jeff and I agreed that, yes, 611 00:28:58,194 --> 00:29:00,488 these are two people we'd like to add to the team. 612 00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:02,991 This is really wonderful. I'm really excited. 613 00:29:03,074 --> 00:29:04,784 So, for those of you who don't know me, 614 00:29:04,868 --> 00:29:07,245 I'm Jessica Kill, I'm one of the producers 615 00:29:07,328 --> 00:29:09,747 on the team for Anarchapulco. 616 00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:11,624 I'm the community producer of the event. 617 00:29:11,708 --> 00:29:13,668 Such an honor to be here with you on Facebook Live... 618 00:29:13,751 --> 00:29:16,838 LISA: Dayna was offered, like an assistant job 619 00:29:16,921 --> 00:29:18,840 because she didn't have as much experience 620 00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:20,675 in coordinating a conference the size 621 00:29:20,758 --> 00:29:23,011 -of Anarchapulco. -(DAYNA SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 622 00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:26,139 LISA: So many things just came together. 623 00:29:26,222 --> 00:29:27,724 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 624 00:29:28,766 --> 00:29:35,148 ♪ (VIOLIN AND DRUMS PLAYING) ♪ 625 00:29:35,231 --> 00:29:40,361 HENZA: Ever since Anarchapulco, Paul was using... a lot. 626 00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:43,239 I don't think he slept that whole time, and I think that took a toll. 627 00:29:44,365 --> 00:29:45,492 ♪ (UNNERVING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 628 00:29:45,575 --> 00:29:48,244 HENZA: And I think after what happened to Gino, 629 00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:49,329 he got worse. 630 00:29:52,749 --> 00:29:55,668 Gino was one of Paul's friends in the community. 631 00:29:56,628 --> 00:29:59,255 They were both military vets. 632 00:29:59,339 --> 00:30:01,216 They both battled and they both saw things 633 00:30:01,299 --> 00:30:03,593 a certain way and they could speak a certain language 634 00:30:03,676 --> 00:30:05,178 and they'd understand each other. 635 00:30:07,805 --> 00:30:08,806 Paul took a liking to him 636 00:30:08,890 --> 00:30:10,934 because he was another messed-up guy. 637 00:30:11,643 --> 00:30:13,144 Paul kind of had this kinship 638 00:30:13,228 --> 00:30:15,730 with people who were just a little screwy. 639 00:30:17,273 --> 00:30:18,858 JUAN GALT: They both have drug problems 640 00:30:18,942 --> 00:30:20,735 and they would train together, 641 00:30:20,818 --> 00:30:23,154 like he would join them for workout sessions 642 00:30:23,238 --> 00:30:25,323 at the Anarchastle. 643 00:30:25,406 --> 00:30:30,703 Gino was being very aggressive and belligerent. 644 00:30:30,787 --> 00:30:33,039 And in Acapulco, like, if you get aggressive 645 00:30:33,122 --> 00:30:34,207 and annoying for long enough, 646 00:30:34,290 --> 00:30:35,917 eventually someone is gonna deal with you. 647 00:30:37,877 --> 00:30:41,464 Gino got into a fight and got killed. 648 00:30:42,674 --> 00:30:44,092 TODD: Do you know what happened? 649 00:30:46,177 --> 00:30:48,429 HENZA: I was told he picked a fight with a few guys 650 00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:49,806 and then they crushed his head. 651 00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:54,602 -(WATER RIPPLING) -(SEAGULLS SQUAWKING) 652 00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:56,229 VOICE AS PAUL PROPERT: Those who know Gino, 653 00:30:56,312 --> 00:30:59,232 know how deep he cut me. True soldier. 654 00:30:59,315 --> 00:31:00,733 -(MOUSE CLICKING) -(KEYBOARD CLACKING) 655 00:31:00,817 --> 00:31:02,318 VOICE AS PAUL PROPERT: You understood me. 656 00:31:02,402 --> 00:31:04,612 You stood with me through my hell. 657 00:31:06,531 --> 00:31:09,075 Gino's death just compounded 658 00:31:09,158 --> 00:31:11,077 all the frustration and anger... 659 00:31:12,245 --> 00:31:14,247 that Paul was dealing with all the time... 660 00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:16,499 ...bored off my ass, and made friends with this old man... 661 00:31:16,583 --> 00:31:18,626 HENZA: ...with society... 662 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:22,255 his past experiences with bad relationships. 663 00:31:23,381 --> 00:31:26,759 It just added on top of the mess that Paul was. 664 00:31:29,387 --> 00:31:33,349 LILY: Paul, like, he did not get over Gino. 665 00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:37,145 I realized after that, that there's a lot of bloodshed 666 00:31:37,228 --> 00:31:39,689 in the city, just all over the place, all the time 667 00:31:42,692 --> 00:31:45,612 LILY: We started following that page 668 00:31:45,695 --> 00:31:48,114 where they report all the murders and stuff, 669 00:31:49,824 --> 00:31:51,701 "Lo real de Acapulco.” 670 00:31:53,411 --> 00:31:54,579 We also kind of realized 671 00:31:54,662 --> 00:31:57,248 just how bad it was when we went to that cemetery 672 00:31:57,332 --> 00:31:58,625 at the top of the hill. 673 00:32:01,336 --> 00:32:04,547 You'd find entire families that had died on the same day... 674 00:32:05,882 --> 00:32:07,258 buried in the same plot. 675 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:09,385 (MOUSE CLICKING) 676 00:32:09,469 --> 00:32:12,430 HENZA: Paul was very rapidly declining. 677 00:32:13,681 --> 00:32:15,266 There were times where you'd just see him weeping, 678 00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:17,477 and there were other times where he's just feeling violent 679 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:18,895 and he wanted to fight. 680 00:32:18,978 --> 00:32:21,773 There was always just this rollercoaster with Paul. 681 00:32:23,608 --> 00:32:25,526 He put his whiteboard in my living room 682 00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:28,196 and started drawing up plans, and nonstop talking 683 00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,907 about how he was gonna take advantage or hurt somebody. 684 00:32:31,449 --> 00:32:34,577 (PAPER RUSTLING) 685 00:32:34,661 --> 00:32:37,747 HENZA: I had mentioned in passing with Paul one time, 686 00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:39,999 that my ex-wife had life insurance policy 687 00:32:40,083 --> 00:32:41,042 that pays out to me. 688 00:32:42,126 --> 00:32:43,711 He saw that I was sad sometimes, 689 00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:47,423 and he really wanted to help me, in his own bizarre way. 690 00:32:49,008 --> 00:32:52,553 He kept... (BREATHES DEEPLY) ...offering to... 691 00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:54,639 kill my ex-wife. 692 00:32:54,722 --> 00:32:58,893 And I was just like, "I'd rather be broke in a ditch, dude, 693 00:32:58,976 --> 00:32:59,977 let it go.” 694 00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:05,191 (PAUL COUGHS) 695 00:33:05,274 --> 00:33:06,943 (METAL CLANGS) 696 00:33:07,026 --> 00:33:08,820 HENZA: And then over three weeks, 697 00:33:08,903 --> 00:33:10,905 he got more and more serious, so... 698 00:33:12,073 --> 00:33:14,242 I decided to-- I had to leave... 699 00:33:15,410 --> 00:33:17,870 for a little while until things cooled down. 700 00:33:19,372 --> 00:33:21,290 My plan to get out of that situation 701 00:33:21,374 --> 00:33:24,168 was to use my mother's birthday as an excuse 702 00:33:24,252 --> 00:33:25,586 to come back to the States. 703 00:33:26,504 --> 00:33:27,922 and just get away from him. 704 00:33:29,048 --> 00:33:30,425 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 705 00:33:30,508 --> 00:33:35,430 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 706 00:33:38,141 --> 00:33:39,434 Is that music I hear? 707 00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:42,395 Oh, did I not bring my phone, I don't need my phone, do I? 708 00:33:42,478 --> 00:33:44,772 ♪ (SERENE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 709 00:33:47,608 --> 00:33:49,152 NATHAN: Here. Let me have your hand. 710 00:33:51,070 --> 00:33:52,405 Oh, gosh, I just realized 711 00:33:52,488 --> 00:33:54,824 just how emotional I'm gonna be by the time we get down there. 712 00:33:55,241 --> 00:33:57,410 AXIOM: 713 00:33:57,493 --> 00:33:59,328 NATHAN: Well, because... 714 00:33:59,412 --> 00:34:02,081 we're gonna be in front of all our favorite people, 715 00:34:02,165 --> 00:34:04,709 and mommy and I are gonna talk about 716 00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:05,877 how much we love each other 717 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,379 and how happy we are to be together. 718 00:34:11,382 --> 00:34:12,800 LISA: The energy of the conference 719 00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:14,761 was so overwhelming. 720 00:34:15,928 --> 00:34:19,432 Nathan and I were like, we need a fresh start. 721 00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:25,938 We never really had a fancy wedding. 722 00:34:26,022 --> 00:34:29,650 I wanted to do the big wedding later, 723 00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:31,611 after we've stayed together for a while. 724 00:34:31,694 --> 00:34:34,906 Like, let's prove that this is for real. 725 00:34:36,115 --> 00:34:37,241 LISA: Thank you. 726 00:34:37,325 --> 00:34:38,910 I just-- I don't have any underwear on, 727 00:34:38,993 --> 00:34:40,870 -so if you see more just... -GUEST: Me too! 728 00:34:40,953 --> 00:34:42,705 LISA: Okay, good! (LAUGHS) 729 00:34:43,664 --> 00:34:44,999 MINISTER: Lisa and Nathan, 730 00:34:45,082 --> 00:34:48,461 when you first joined in marriage some 14 years ago, 731 00:34:49,086 --> 00:34:50,171 you really had no idea 732 00:34:50,254 --> 00:34:52,465 what life would have in store for you. 733 00:34:52,548 --> 00:34:55,301 LISA: So, in 2018, we made the decision 734 00:34:55,384 --> 00:34:58,846 that we're gonna be with all our friends. 735 00:34:58,930 --> 00:35:00,807 You know, we don't have to fly everybody in, 736 00:35:00,890 --> 00:35:02,308 they're already there for the conference. 737 00:35:02,391 --> 00:35:05,269 So why don't we have a ceremony on the beach. 738 00:35:05,353 --> 00:35:07,063 (SCATTERED LAUGHTER) 739 00:35:07,146 --> 00:35:10,525 MINISTER: This is the circle you have now built together. 740 00:35:12,026 --> 00:35:14,904 -Friends, family... -AXIOM: Mommy, it's okay. It's okay. 741 00:35:14,987 --> 00:35:18,199 ...and an entire community that support you, 742 00:35:18,908 --> 00:35:20,868 and you, in turn, support. 743 00:35:23,162 --> 00:35:24,956 This is today's ring. 744 00:35:27,959 --> 00:35:29,293 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 745 00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:32,213 We made it. 746 00:35:32,547 --> 00:35:33,464 Wow! 747 00:35:33,548 --> 00:35:35,174 -Love you. -I love you too. 748 00:35:40,721 --> 00:35:43,432 (VOICE BREAKING) 749 00:35:46,185 --> 00:35:48,229 (CHUCKLES, SOBS SOFTLY) 750 00:35:52,275 --> 00:35:53,442 I love you. 751 00:35:53,526 --> 00:35:55,862 ♪ (CALM MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 752 00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,406 MINISTER: Nathan, do you reaffirm your love 753 00:35:58,489 --> 00:36:00,867 -and commitment for Lisa... -(IRA BELLE WHINING) 754 00:36:00,950 --> 00:36:04,745 ...and care for her in sickness and in health? 755 00:36:05,830 --> 00:36:06,873 I do. 756 00:36:08,165 --> 00:36:09,917 Lisa, will you continue 757 00:36:10,001 --> 00:36:11,168 -to support Nathan... -(CHUCKLES) 758 00:36:11,252 --> 00:36:13,713 ...your husband, and continue to live 759 00:36:13,796 --> 00:36:17,049 -in this happy, loving marriage? -I do. 760 00:36:18,259 --> 00:36:20,928 MINISTER: So, by the powers invested in me 761 00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:23,890 -by no state at all... -Whoo! 762 00:36:23,973 --> 00:36:25,600 (CROWD APPLAUDING, CHEERING) 763 00:36:25,683 --> 00:36:28,394 ...please celebrate this renewal of vows 764 00:36:28,477 --> 00:36:30,897 with the sign of affection that you choose. 765 00:36:31,939 --> 00:36:32,982 I love you. 766 00:36:34,775 --> 00:36:40,781 (CROWD APPLAUDING, CHEERING) 767 00:36:41,908 --> 00:36:44,827 LISA: I love you. (CHUCKLES) 768 00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:46,621 NATHAN: I can't believe we got here... 769 00:36:46,704 --> 00:36:49,624 (CROWD CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 770 00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:53,336 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 771 00:36:53,419 --> 00:36:55,046 All righty, guys, we're gonna go ahead 772 00:36:55,129 --> 00:36:59,008 and, uh, start up a Streets of Acapulco Series 2.0. 773 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,219 And then, uh, we'll see 774 00:37:01,302 --> 00:37:02,970 a bunch of people looking at me all funny. 775 00:37:03,054 --> 00:37:06,307 ♪ (MUSIC PLAYING IN DISTANCE) ♪ 776 00:37:09,644 --> 00:37:12,897 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 777 00:37:12,980 --> 00:37:14,732 HENZA: When I got back into town, 778 00:37:14,815 --> 00:37:16,359 John and Lily took me in. 779 00:37:17,318 --> 00:37:19,487 I've got no AT&T signal out here. 780 00:37:20,696 --> 00:37:22,323 But there's lots of cute little restaurants 781 00:37:22,406 --> 00:37:23,449 and little bars. 782 00:37:28,371 --> 00:37:29,330 HENZA: Yeah. 783 00:37:29,413 --> 00:37:31,123 We got right back into a daily routine 784 00:37:31,207 --> 00:37:32,792 of hanging out every day, 785 00:37:32,875 --> 00:37:36,671 and we just started trying to pull ourselves together 786 00:37:36,754 --> 00:37:37,838 and get the Fork ready. 787 00:37:40,883 --> 00:37:42,218 LILY: Around that time... 788 00:37:42,301 --> 00:37:43,970 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 789 00:37:44,053 --> 00:37:46,305 ...I was going to the market. 790 00:37:46,389 --> 00:37:48,975 -And ahead of me, what I saw... -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 791 00:37:49,058 --> 00:37:50,851 ...was Paul 792 00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:53,562 and Chris, Henza's ex-wife. 793 00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:55,564 -(MOUSE CLICKING) -♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 794 00:37:55,648 --> 00:37:58,442 HENZA: Paul had bounced around the community a little bit. 795 00:37:58,526 --> 00:38:01,320 -(DOGS BARKING) -(PAUL IMITATING BARKS) 796 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:05,199 (SHOUTS) 797 00:38:06,283 --> 00:38:09,495 HENZA: And, one day he ran across my ex-wife 798 00:38:09,578 --> 00:38:10,871 and her boyfriend, ModProbe... 799 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:14,125 and they took him in. 800 00:38:17,086 --> 00:38:20,089 He was just quietly hanging out at ModProbe's mansion, 801 00:38:20,172 --> 00:38:23,801 enjoying the pool and just sitting back and relaxing. 802 00:38:24,969 --> 00:38:29,223 I tried to warn her that he wanted to kill her, 803 00:38:29,306 --> 00:38:31,267 and that didn't go well. 804 00:38:32,852 --> 00:38:34,645 Paul admitted to it. 805 00:38:36,105 --> 00:38:39,734 He says, "Yeah, but he wanted me to kill you." 806 00:38:41,068 --> 00:38:42,445 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 807 00:38:42,528 --> 00:38:45,072 And I just threw my hands up in the air, and I said, "I give up, 808 00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:46,699 I'm not talking about this anymore, 809 00:38:46,782 --> 00:38:48,242 and hopefully, you won't get hurt." 810 00:38:51,287 --> 00:38:52,496 And then right when that happened, 811 00:38:52,580 --> 00:38:54,540 that's when Paul started threatening us. 812 00:38:54,623 --> 00:38:56,208 -♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(KEYBOARD CLACKING) 813 00:38:56,292 --> 00:38:59,086 VOICE AS PAUL: I came to know John and Lily very well 814 00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:01,505 during my stay here in beautiful Acapulco. 815 00:39:03,090 --> 00:39:04,884 I actually saw the true side 816 00:39:04,967 --> 00:39:07,136 of these wannabe celebritarians. 817 00:39:08,262 --> 00:39:09,513 I know where the next step 818 00:39:09,597 --> 00:39:11,515 in the escalation of this will go. 819 00:39:12,725 --> 00:39:13,976 Trust me, children, 820 00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:17,980 you do not want me taking things in that direction, so behave. 821 00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:22,902 HENZA: He would threaten us, 822 00:39:22,985 --> 00:39:26,030 and then he would obsess about us all day. 823 00:39:26,113 --> 00:39:28,657 Paul was crusading for his justice 824 00:39:28,741 --> 00:39:31,452 in his own mind, from being turned away. 825 00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:33,913 Paul felt like he should always be accepted by us, 826 00:39:33,996 --> 00:39:36,457 regardless of who he is, what's he doing. 827 00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:37,708 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 828 00:39:37,792 --> 00:39:39,293 VOICE AS PAUL: When you talk as much shit 829 00:39:39,376 --> 00:39:41,837 and pull the stunts that you have... 830 00:39:41,921 --> 00:39:44,757 we might have to take it outside and fight it out. 831 00:39:47,093 --> 00:39:48,677 We can wear gloves so I don't mess up 832 00:39:48,761 --> 00:39:50,596 that pretty face too much. 833 00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:54,475 But John Galton, we gonna throw down. 834 00:39:56,644 --> 00:39:57,895 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 835 00:39:57,978 --> 00:39:59,146 (CELL PHONE CHIMES) 836 00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:01,357 AMANDA: I started getting weird messages from Paul. 837 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,858 ♪ (BROODING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 838 00:40:02,942 --> 00:40:05,903 AMANDA: He was ranting to me about Lily, 839 00:40:05,986 --> 00:40:08,531 and there was something that he didn't like about John. 840 00:40:08,614 --> 00:40:10,282 (CELL PHONE CHIMES) 841 00:40:10,366 --> 00:40:11,534 AMANDA: We weren't even that close. 842 00:40:11,617 --> 00:40:12,451 I couldn't even place 843 00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:14,328 why he thought I should be messaged. 844 00:40:15,538 --> 00:40:16,914 LARKEN: It seemed to me like a lot 845 00:40:16,997 --> 00:40:19,333 of his internal struggles... 846 00:40:19,416 --> 00:40:21,669 they weren't just about Lily and John. 847 00:40:21,752 --> 00:40:25,756 They were about his own stuff that I never fully understood, 848 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,134 and I don't think he fully understood. 849 00:40:28,217 --> 00:40:30,344 I'll never forget that, like, in the slew 850 00:40:30,427 --> 00:40:32,555 of incoherent messaging I got... 851 00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:34,431 (CELL PHONE CHIMES) 852 00:40:34,515 --> 00:40:36,350 ...he said, "Regardless of things I did, 853 00:40:36,433 --> 00:40:39,520 I really cared about those kids." 854 00:40:39,603 --> 00:40:42,022 The way he was talking sounded like something happened 855 00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:44,191 that was traumatic. 856 00:40:44,275 --> 00:40:45,860 So much so, he didn't seem to be okay 857 00:40:45,943 --> 00:40:48,028 with saying what it was. 858 00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:50,489 But I could tell that it was definitely connected 859 00:40:50,573 --> 00:40:52,158 to stuff he did in the military, 860 00:40:52,241 --> 00:40:54,660 that I think he didn't forgive himself for. 861 00:40:56,620 --> 00:41:02,460 LISA: He felt this overwhelming moral justice belief system, 862 00:41:02,543 --> 00:41:05,254 that he was the antihero, that he was the only one 863 00:41:05,337 --> 00:41:07,882 that saw things as they really were. 864 00:41:07,965 --> 00:41:11,594 He felt like he had this job to protect people, 865 00:41:11,677 --> 00:41:15,890 but didn't see how his behavior was causing people 866 00:41:15,973 --> 00:41:17,266 the need to be protected. 867 00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:20,102 (KEYPAD CLACKING) 868 00:41:20,186 --> 00:41:22,730 LISA: In my nurturing personality, 869 00:41:22,813 --> 00:41:24,690 I would, you know, check in with him 870 00:41:24,773 --> 00:41:25,733 and just let him know 871 00:41:25,816 --> 00:41:27,026 that someone's thinking about him, 872 00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:28,652 that someone cares about him. 873 00:41:30,112 --> 00:41:31,155 JUAN: I tried to, like... 874 00:41:32,114 --> 00:41:34,533 invoke, like, pull the best out of him. 875 00:41:34,617 --> 00:41:37,578 And like, suppress the other, right? Like, I was trying to, 876 00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:39,246 like, influence him in a good direction. 877 00:41:41,248 --> 00:41:42,541 ERIKA: I really advocated for him 878 00:41:42,625 --> 00:41:44,877 to do labor on a, like, a fruit farm kind of thing, 879 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,131 you know? And you just-- A chance to restart a new life. 880 00:41:49,215 --> 00:41:50,674 You know, even in Mexico, I researched. 881 00:41:50,758 --> 00:41:53,677 I had done this research, cause I wanted to present solutions. 882 00:41:53,761 --> 00:41:55,596 But he didn't want any of the solutions, 883 00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:56,889 any of the ideas. 884 00:41:58,724 --> 00:42:00,100 So, at that point, I had been in Acapulco, 885 00:42:00,184 --> 00:42:02,561 you know, over two years, I think two and a half. 886 00:42:02,645 --> 00:42:06,690 (BREATHES DEEPLY) Um, and I... I was... 887 00:42:06,774 --> 00:42:09,944 wanting to rest and recover. 888 00:42:11,528 --> 00:42:14,448 TODD: Erika left Acapulco and moved to Belize 889 00:42:14,531 --> 00:42:16,825 to restart her life away from the turmoil 890 00:42:16,909 --> 00:42:18,327 of the community. 891 00:42:18,410 --> 00:42:20,120 ERIKA: I don't know what the percentage would be, 892 00:42:20,204 --> 00:42:22,289 but it's like blindingly White. 893 00:42:23,290 --> 00:42:25,376 I stared to feel an accumulative effect 894 00:42:25,459 --> 00:42:28,337 of being so "other." I'm the other other. 895 00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:30,673 I'm like expat, but even among the expats, 896 00:42:30,756 --> 00:42:32,383 I still don't necess-- You know, 897 00:42:32,466 --> 00:42:34,343 I'm still aware that y'all are having conversations 898 00:42:34,426 --> 00:42:37,930 that you hold for when I leave. I know this. 899 00:42:38,013 --> 00:42:39,848 And I just thought that there could be 900 00:42:39,932 --> 00:42:44,895 more represented than-- than just drama and crypto. 901 00:42:47,022 --> 00:42:49,692 There were all these variables, like volatile things, 902 00:42:49,775 --> 00:42:52,486 unpredictable things, dangerous things, 903 00:42:52,569 --> 00:42:55,447 and they're all, like, kinda like, being juggled. 904 00:42:55,531 --> 00:42:57,574 I don't really-- I don't know, I could not keep account 905 00:42:57,658 --> 00:42:59,493 of whose hands threw which balls. 906 00:42:59,576 --> 00:43:02,204 I just know that there were all of these factors... 907 00:43:04,707 --> 00:43:06,083 and that-- 908 00:43:06,166 --> 00:43:09,420 There's-- Something is-- something was gonna implode eventually. 909 00:43:11,588 --> 00:43:13,340 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 910 00:43:13,424 --> 00:43:15,676 LISA: There's a Telegram group 911 00:43:15,759 --> 00:43:18,012 all about the communication of everybody 912 00:43:18,095 --> 00:43:21,515 in the production team for the conference... 913 00:43:21,598 --> 00:43:23,809 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 914 00:43:25,227 --> 00:43:26,645 ...and Nathan was blocked. 915 00:43:27,938 --> 00:43:30,858 He was no longer allowed to be in this group. 916 00:43:30,941 --> 00:43:32,318 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 917 00:43:32,401 --> 00:43:35,904 LISA: And then he was cut out of Anarchapulco's email. 918 00:43:37,698 --> 00:43:41,035 Nathan and I were really concerned 919 00:43:41,118 --> 00:43:44,079 that there was some very sketchy stuff 920 00:43:44,163 --> 00:43:45,372 happening behind the scenes. 921 00:43:47,875 --> 00:43:50,794 I'm here with Nathan Freeman, in beautiful Acapulco, Mexico. 922 00:43:50,878 --> 00:43:54,131 Nathan Freeman, he runs the Anarchapulco conference... 923 00:43:54,214 --> 00:43:57,217 (OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 924 00:43:57,301 --> 00:43:58,969 ...with Nathan Freeman, the chief cat herder. 925 00:43:59,053 --> 00:44:00,637 -NATHAN: Great to see you, man. -JEFF: Yeah. 926 00:44:00,721 --> 00:44:03,515 As a person, I've always gotten along 927 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:04,933 really well with Nathan, 928 00:44:05,017 --> 00:44:07,561 and we had a lot of fun running Anarchapulco. 929 00:44:08,729 --> 00:44:09,855 He did so many things great, 930 00:44:09,938 --> 00:44:12,066 especially the people sort of stuff. 931 00:44:12,149 --> 00:44:14,401 He knows, like, the-- the community very well, 932 00:44:14,485 --> 00:44:16,862 he's friends with most of the people in the community. 933 00:44:17,488 --> 00:44:18,906 But with Nathan... 934 00:44:19,948 --> 00:44:21,700 there's always lots of problems. 935 00:44:21,784 --> 00:44:25,037 (SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY) 936 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,288 JEFF: 'Cause Nathan didn't really know 937 00:44:26,372 --> 00:44:28,624 how to run events, he was just winging it. 938 00:44:28,707 --> 00:44:30,042 Which worked fine for a couple of years, 939 00:44:30,125 --> 00:44:31,960 but it grew to such a big size. 940 00:44:32,961 --> 00:44:36,632 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 941 00:44:39,593 --> 00:44:42,179 JEFF: The thing that really set me off... 942 00:44:42,262 --> 00:44:45,099 Special gratitude from the Anarchapulco team 943 00:44:45,182 --> 00:44:46,392 for your attendance 944 00:44:46,475 --> 00:44:49,228 at this lovely event here tonight. 945 00:44:49,311 --> 00:44:53,148 ...was the 2018 VIP dinner with Ron Paul 946 00:44:53,232 --> 00:44:54,400 and everything. 947 00:44:54,483 --> 00:44:56,652 (LOUD CHATTER) 948 00:45:01,281 --> 00:45:03,784 Before the event, there's like people lined up 949 00:45:03,867 --> 00:45:06,578 for like half a kilometer, and I'm like, "What's going on?" 950 00:45:06,662 --> 00:45:08,080 They're like, "There's no one there 951 00:45:08,163 --> 00:45:10,207 to even take the tickets." And I was like, "Where's Nathan?" 952 00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:11,792 And someone's like, "He's sleeping.” (CHUCKLES) 953 00:45:11,875 --> 00:45:13,585 -(LOUD CHATTER) -So, the only thing 954 00:45:13,669 --> 00:45:16,797 that changes Washington is when the prevailing attitude 955 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,257 of the country changes... 956 00:45:18,340 --> 00:45:20,634 JEFF: I actually had to take tickets for like an hour. 957 00:45:20,717 --> 00:45:22,553 And I'm like, "So sorry about this, so sorry, 958 00:45:22,636 --> 00:45:24,138 you want chicken?" Like... 959 00:45:25,931 --> 00:45:29,768 But Jessica Kill, she's like, "I got spreadsheets." 960 00:45:29,852 --> 00:45:33,939 She was really good with times and money, 961 00:45:34,022 --> 00:45:36,942 like a real pro person who knows how to run events. 962 00:45:38,277 --> 00:45:39,820 NATHAN: He decided that she should be 963 00:45:39,903 --> 00:45:41,238 the executive producer. 964 00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:43,907 He described it as a CEO role. 965 00:45:44,658 --> 00:45:45,617 Which was a little weird, 966 00:45:45,701 --> 00:45:48,287 'cause I was like, "Huh, then what am I?" 967 00:45:48,954 --> 00:45:49,955 That makes no sense. 968 00:45:50,038 --> 00:45:51,957 The guy who's been running it for three years, 969 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,125 you're gonna push out, 970 00:45:53,208 --> 00:45:55,836 when he's the one that has all the information 971 00:45:55,919 --> 00:45:57,171 on how things run? 972 00:45:58,797 --> 00:46:01,884 JEFF: He kinda felt like it was, like, his thing. 973 00:46:03,093 --> 00:46:04,887 And it's not even, like my thing, really, 974 00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:06,388 like, I just want it to run well. 975 00:46:08,265 --> 00:46:10,851 LISA: Kill sold him on her ability 976 00:46:10,934 --> 00:46:13,979 to delegate and be in control of a conference. 977 00:46:15,439 --> 00:46:17,232 JEFF: It never sat well with him. 978 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:19,651 And I think he kinda felt 979 00:46:19,735 --> 00:46:22,779 like I ran him out of Anarchapulco, but... 980 00:46:23,739 --> 00:46:25,240 that really wasn't the case 981 00:46:25,324 --> 00:46:27,493 and, I don't know, it just got a little weird. 982 00:46:27,576 --> 00:46:28,702 Just weird. 983 00:46:30,996 --> 00:46:32,414 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 984 00:46:32,498 --> 00:46:34,082 NEWSCASTER 1: Bitcoin getting a beatdown today, 985 00:46:34,166 --> 00:46:36,084 falling below 5,000 for the first time 986 00:46:36,168 --> 00:46:37,377 -in more than a year. -♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 987 00:46:37,461 --> 00:46:38,795 NEWSCASTER 2: ...now down 25 percent 988 00:46:38,879 --> 00:46:41,256 and just to 300 bucks in the past hour. 989 00:46:41,340 --> 00:46:43,217 If you're looking at the market right now, 990 00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:45,052 you're probably freaking out. 991 00:46:45,135 --> 00:46:46,803 CRYPTO INVESTOR: Crypto crash! 992 00:46:46,887 --> 00:46:49,556 Dawgs, look at Bitcoin all-time low, 993 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,558 why is the price falling so low? 994 00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:53,560 Holy fucking shit! 995 00:46:53,644 --> 00:46:55,312 I'm losing everything, bro! 996 00:46:56,313 --> 00:46:57,773 TODD: Near the end of 2018, 997 00:46:57,856 --> 00:46:59,942 cryptocurrency prices bottomed out. 998 00:47:01,777 --> 00:47:04,530 Bitcoin plunged nearly 17,000 dollars 999 00:47:04,613 --> 00:47:06,823 from its peak just one year before, 1000 00:47:06,907 --> 00:47:09,117 bringing the rest of the market down with it. 1001 00:47:10,369 --> 00:47:13,163 It was tough, I was working hard. 1002 00:47:13,247 --> 00:47:15,624 Not a whole lot of money was coming in. 1003 00:47:16,542 --> 00:47:17,918 And the conference had a problem, 1004 00:47:18,001 --> 00:47:19,628 which is, where do you get the money from? 1005 00:47:19,711 --> 00:47:21,672 And the money is coming from sponsors. 1006 00:47:21,755 --> 00:47:23,048 And who are the sponsors? 1007 00:47:23,131 --> 00:47:25,092 Well, they're crypto projects that are looking for attention. 1008 00:47:26,176 --> 00:47:27,886 LILY: SmartCash sponsored us big 1009 00:47:27,970 --> 00:47:29,471 when they were over a dollar coin 1010 00:47:29,555 --> 00:47:31,515 and then they were a quarter of that. 1011 00:47:31,598 --> 00:47:32,891 And then it was just like, 1012 00:47:32,975 --> 00:47:35,060 "Well, we got no money to sponsor you." 1013 00:47:36,478 --> 00:47:38,188 JEFF: And you'd just hear it on social media, like, 1014 00:47:38,272 --> 00:47:41,483 "I'd like to go, but, you know, I just-- I'm down 80 percent 1015 00:47:41,567 --> 00:47:43,443 this year and I can't afford the, you know, 1016 00:47:43,527 --> 00:47:45,070 the expense," and all that kind of stuff. 1017 00:47:46,321 --> 00:47:47,406 HENZA: We were struggling. 1018 00:47:47,489 --> 00:47:49,825 John was borrowing money just to pay for rent. 1019 00:47:51,243 --> 00:47:53,412 No money, nothing going on. 1020 00:47:53,495 --> 00:47:54,913 We're all getting pretty desperate up there, 1021 00:47:54,997 --> 00:47:57,082 and John and Lily were just at their wits' end 1022 00:47:57,165 --> 00:48:00,877 because they weren't making it, and... it was sad. 1023 00:48:00,961 --> 00:48:02,045 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 1024 00:48:02,129 --> 00:48:04,047 -(FIREWORK BLASTING) -(CRICKETS CHIRPING) 1025 00:48:05,591 --> 00:48:08,468 (FIREWORK WHISTLING) 1026 00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:11,847 (FIREWORK BURSTS) 1027 00:48:11,930 --> 00:48:15,142 -♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 1028 00:48:15,225 --> 00:48:18,687 LILY: ...we were done, over. 1029 00:48:26,528 --> 00:48:27,946 LILY: The new year. 1030 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,786 This was the best part about living in Acapulco. 1031 00:48:36,538 --> 00:48:38,123 -ONLOOKER: Damn! -(DOGS BARKING) 1032 00:48:38,206 --> 00:48:40,667 LILY: We were shooting fireworks off our house. 1033 00:48:40,751 --> 00:48:43,462 Like big fireworks, like professional fireworks. 1034 00:48:47,215 --> 00:48:50,344 TODD: So, how do you remember feeling around that time? 1035 00:48:52,638 --> 00:48:55,057 (BREATHES DEEPLY) So exhausted. 1036 00:48:56,767 --> 00:49:00,395 Fuck, I'm exhausted thinking about it. (CHUCKLES) 1037 00:49:00,479 --> 00:49:03,357 (FIREWORKS BURSTING) 1038 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,192 LILY: I don't know what we were thinking, honestly, 1039 00:49:05,275 --> 00:49:07,694 like, we were just trying to survive. 1040 00:49:09,029 --> 00:49:10,697 (SIGHS) 1041 00:49:10,781 --> 00:49:12,908 "I wish my life was simpler." (CHUCKLES) 1042 00:49:14,743 --> 00:49:15,827 That's all I remember thinking, 1043 00:49:15,911 --> 00:49:17,704 was that I wished my life was simpler. 1044 00:49:21,583 --> 00:49:23,335 And I was just like, "Okay... 1045 00:49:24,419 --> 00:49:26,254 what now?" (CHUCKLING) 1046 00:49:27,381 --> 00:49:29,675 What the fuck is this year going to bring? 1047 00:49:29,758 --> 00:49:31,301 ♪ (MUSIC INTENSIFIES) ♪ 1048 00:49:34,471 --> 00:49:36,431 ♪ (MUSIC SWELLS, FADES) ♪ 1049 00:49:39,184 --> 00:49:41,895 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 1050 00:49:41,978 --> 00:49:45,732 Uh, if somebody's listening, please, I just... 1051 00:49:45,816 --> 00:49:48,485 Somebody showed up right after we finished eating 1052 00:49:48,568 --> 00:49:51,029 and they shot John and Henza, 1053 00:49:51,113 --> 00:49:52,864 and I was in the house 1054 00:49:52,948 --> 00:49:55,033 and John's dead at the gate! 1055 00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:03,959 Henza's in the other room dying, and I really need help. 1056 00:50:04,042 --> 00:50:05,877 Somebody, please come! 1057 00:50:05,961 --> 00:50:08,380 (BREATHES HEAVILY, WHIMPERS) 1058 00:50:08,463 --> 00:50:14,010 ♪ (MENACING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1059 00:51:19,826 --> 00:51:22,037 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪