1 00:00:15,724 --> 00:00:17,934 (WIND HOWLING SOFTLY) 2 00:00:20,603 --> 00:00:23,356 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 3 00:00:27,902 --> 00:00:29,904 NATHAN FREEMAN: I remember, like, waking up one morning 4 00:00:29,988 --> 00:00:32,157 -and being very depressed. -LISA FREEMAN: Yeah. 5 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,117 NATHAN: And I was depressed about the realization 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,580 that all these people that I thought were gonna be 7 00:00:38,663 --> 00:00:40,874 the greatest people I'd ever get to know, 8 00:00:40,957 --> 00:00:44,377 um, some of them were just flat-out assholes. 9 00:00:47,672 --> 00:00:50,842 And that realization was very dramatic. 10 00:00:52,218 --> 00:00:53,511 When the universe tells us it's time, 11 00:00:53,595 --> 00:00:55,555 -it's not quiet at all. -(CHUCKLES) 12 00:00:55,638 --> 00:00:56,639 At least, I'm listening. 13 00:00:56,723 --> 00:00:58,892 It hits us over the back of the head pretty hard. 14 00:01:00,518 --> 00:01:02,645 LISA: All of a sudden, everything that we had built, 15 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:04,647 everything that we had loved and embraced, 16 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:08,610 and was living for, was falling apart. 17 00:01:10,695 --> 00:01:13,907 The freedom movement, the conference, 18 00:01:13,990 --> 00:01:15,992 Acapulco, like everything. 19 00:01:17,619 --> 00:01:19,871 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 20 00:01:19,954 --> 00:01:22,248 -(WAVES CRASHING) -(SEAGULLS SQUAWKING) 21 00:01:24,709 --> 00:01:26,961 JUAN GALT: It felt like the authenticity had 22 00:01:27,045 --> 00:01:28,671 kinda been drained in a way. 23 00:01:29,714 --> 00:01:31,758 The resounding symbolism, for me, 24 00:01:31,841 --> 00:01:36,137 was that a meteor hit the pyramid. 25 00:01:37,931 --> 00:01:42,352 A meteor crashed on the pyramid, you know? (LAUGHS) 26 00:01:42,435 --> 00:01:43,937 (WATER BURBLING) 27 00:01:46,064 --> 00:01:47,982 We were in love with that place. 28 00:01:49,567 --> 00:01:52,195 Now, Acapulco's just a puddle of bad memories. 29 00:01:54,072 --> 00:01:55,824 So I was determined to leave. 30 00:01:55,907 --> 00:01:57,659 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 31 00:01:57,742 --> 00:02:00,912 LISA: We were done, like so done. 32 00:02:00,995 --> 00:02:02,664 NATHAN: Uh, it was, uh, somebody that... 33 00:02:02,747 --> 00:02:07,043 This is no longer an interest for us. It's... 34 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:10,630 It's just a bunch of shit. 35 00:02:10,713 --> 00:02:15,593 ♪ (DREAMY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 36 00:02:15,677 --> 00:02:17,345 JEFF BERWICK: When you look at true anarchists, 37 00:02:17,428 --> 00:02:20,014 true people who really understand the philosophy, 38 00:02:20,098 --> 00:02:21,724 that's less than point-one percent 39 00:02:21,808 --> 00:02:23,977 of people on Earth. 40 00:02:24,060 --> 00:02:27,313 There's not too many instances of these sort of people 41 00:02:27,397 --> 00:02:29,023 gravitating to one area. 42 00:02:29,107 --> 00:02:32,652 ♪ (LIVELY DANCE MUSIC PLAYING OVER SPEAKERS) ♪ 43 00:02:32,735 --> 00:02:35,196 JEFF: And in many ways it's been absolutely fabulous, 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,366 but it's not perfect, whatsoever. 45 00:02:38,449 --> 00:02:41,494 We started out wanting to fight the government, 46 00:02:41,578 --> 00:02:43,997 but we ended up fighting ourselves. 47 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,875 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 48 00:02:46,958 --> 00:02:49,002 But I think that's a stage of evolution. 49 00:02:49,085 --> 00:02:50,753 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 50 00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:53,047 JEFF: It's just a-- an evolution of growth. 51 00:02:53,131 --> 00:02:58,469 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -MC: Make some noise! 52 00:02:58,553 --> 00:03:00,763 Let's go motherfuckers! 53 00:03:00,847 --> 00:03:04,100 JEFF: I think it's preparing us to be stronger 54 00:03:04,183 --> 00:03:06,686 for way harder times to come. 55 00:03:08,563 --> 00:03:13,234 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC SWELLS, FADES) ♪ 56 00:03:13,318 --> 00:03:18,114 -(BELL TOLLING IN THE DISTANCE) -(WAVES CRASHING) 57 00:03:20,491 --> 00:03:24,913 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 58 00:03:24,996 --> 00:03:27,832 LILY FORESTER: I bounced around for a little while... 59 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:32,462 and then I ended up moving to Morelia, Mexico. 60 00:03:35,465 --> 00:03:38,468 When I moved to Morelia, I was, like... (SIGHS) 61 00:03:38,551 --> 00:03:40,011 ...I was a real big hermit. 62 00:03:43,222 --> 00:03:45,016 I was depressed and I was real anxious, 63 00:03:45,099 --> 00:03:46,559 and I was just trying to survive. 64 00:03:48,394 --> 00:03:51,189 I had to first become comfortable being alone 65 00:03:51,272 --> 00:03:53,983 'cause I'd never been alone before. 66 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:56,277 Everything with John, like that was the first time 67 00:03:56,361 --> 00:03:57,695 I was truly alone. 68 00:03:59,197 --> 00:04:01,449 I was trying to process all of it. 69 00:04:01,532 --> 00:04:03,785 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 70 00:04:03,868 --> 00:04:06,871 And I started to see the relationship with John 71 00:04:06,955 --> 00:04:08,122 for what it actually was 72 00:04:08,206 --> 00:04:10,291 and not what I had always wanted it to be. 73 00:04:12,835 --> 00:04:13,878 If I'm being honest, 74 00:04:13,962 --> 00:04:15,880 my relationship with John was awful. 75 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:20,009 It had its great highlights that kept me around, 76 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:23,346 but, like, neither of us were happy for most of it. 77 00:04:23,429 --> 00:04:25,807 We'd almost broke up many times. 78 00:04:25,890 --> 00:04:27,976 And it just took admitting all of that. 79 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:32,563 I didn't have very much self-esteem, 80 00:04:32,647 --> 00:04:35,316 and he had a habit of kind of putting the bigger things 81 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,776 on me when they went wrong. 82 00:04:38,152 --> 00:04:40,405 So, I was very much feeling the guilt. 83 00:04:40,488 --> 00:04:42,907 I had kind of internalized it by that point. 84 00:04:44,242 --> 00:04:46,327 Then he told me I was useless, 85 00:04:46,411 --> 00:04:48,705 and that I shouldn't have crossed the border with him. 86 00:04:49,789 --> 00:04:52,250 We had two phases in our relationship... 87 00:04:53,876 --> 00:04:55,461 "I fuckin' hate you," 88 00:04:55,545 --> 00:04:59,590 and "You and me against the world, baby!" 89 00:04:59,674 --> 00:05:03,219 I just put up with so much shit because I had zero examples 90 00:05:03,302 --> 00:05:06,973 of what love and relationships were supposed to be like. 91 00:05:07,056 --> 00:05:10,393 I had no memories of my parents together, for example. 92 00:05:10,476 --> 00:05:12,979 There were no happy memories of Mom and Dad. 93 00:05:14,856 --> 00:05:19,444 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -♪ (SOMBER MUSIC FADES) ♪ 94 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,950 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 95 00:05:28,411 --> 00:05:31,122 LISA: Everything just kept pushing us out of Acapulco... 96 00:05:31,205 --> 00:05:33,499 (DOG BARKING IN DISTANCE) 97 00:05:34,709 --> 00:05:36,085 ...and so we drove. 98 00:05:36,169 --> 00:05:39,756 ♪ (TRANQUIL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 99 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,091 LISA: We packed up our stuff and we moved. 100 00:05:43,551 --> 00:05:46,596 We had a couple of places that were on our radar 101 00:05:46,679 --> 00:05:49,265 that were within an eight-to-ten-hour drive 102 00:05:49,348 --> 00:05:50,683 from Acapulco. 103 00:05:51,517 --> 00:05:54,437 And one of them was San Miguel. 104 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,067 ♪ (TRANQUIL MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 105 00:05:59,150 --> 00:06:02,904 LISA: We found a couple of places we really liked, 106 00:06:02,987 --> 00:06:05,198 and one of them that we ended up going with 107 00:06:05,281 --> 00:06:06,908 was across the street from a park. 108 00:06:06,991 --> 00:06:08,993 I mean, it was just beautiful. 109 00:06:09,077 --> 00:06:11,579 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 110 00:06:11,662 --> 00:06:14,791 LISA: We had talked about another conference 111 00:06:14,874 --> 00:06:17,251 and that inspired us for a little bit. 112 00:06:18,211 --> 00:06:22,590 But Nathan slowly, slowly got more, 113 00:06:23,382 --> 00:06:24,842 um, withdrawn. 114 00:06:24,926 --> 00:06:26,969 ♪ (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 115 00:06:27,053 --> 00:06:30,640 LISA: Nathan had always been a drinker, 116 00:06:30,723 --> 00:06:33,142 but his drinking took on a different level. 117 00:06:33,226 --> 00:06:35,394 He would start drinking at 10:00 in the morning. 118 00:06:36,187 --> 00:06:39,107 He basically became depressed... 119 00:06:39,190 --> 00:06:42,944 'cause there had been so much possibility 120 00:06:43,027 --> 00:06:45,613 with the community, with the conference. 121 00:06:47,031 --> 00:06:53,621 But it had fallen apart, and he felt like it was a shame. 122 00:06:55,998 --> 00:06:57,083 There were so many nights 123 00:06:57,166 --> 00:06:58,793 where he would be crying in my lap 124 00:06:58,876 --> 00:07:01,754 and like hyperventilating and shaking 125 00:07:01,838 --> 00:07:04,465 and just on his knees, trying to figure out 126 00:07:04,549 --> 00:07:05,758 what we did wrong. 127 00:07:05,842 --> 00:07:08,177 -(WAVES BURBLING) -♪ (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC FADES) ♪ 128 00:07:08,261 --> 00:07:11,514 (SEAGULLS SQUAWKING) 129 00:07:11,597 --> 00:07:16,310 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 130 00:07:16,394 --> 00:07:20,648 (BOAT ENGINE WHIRRING) 131 00:07:20,731 --> 00:07:22,400 LILY: I just had to figure out what I wanted 132 00:07:22,483 --> 00:07:25,653 to do with my life and my future. 133 00:07:25,736 --> 00:07:28,990 It was just, like, I had to be able to talk to people 134 00:07:29,073 --> 00:07:31,450 and stop being so afraid of everything. 135 00:07:36,289 --> 00:07:38,332 SUSAN KASSON-KURILICH: As devastating as Shane's death 136 00:07:38,416 --> 00:07:40,626 will always be for her, 137 00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:44,213 it was nice to be able to see my granddaughter-in-law 138 00:07:44,297 --> 00:07:46,507 move forward. 139 00:07:46,591 --> 00:07:50,595 Susan is a saint of a woman. (LAUGHS) 140 00:07:50,678 --> 00:07:55,474 ♪ (LIVELY MUSIC PLAYING ON TAMBOURINE) ♪ 141 00:07:58,102 --> 00:08:01,856 LILY: After John died, she hugged me and she was like, 142 00:08:01,939 --> 00:08:03,691 "Take a couple months to yourself. 143 00:08:03,774 --> 00:08:06,944 But in a couple months, if you meet somebody nice, 144 00:08:07,028 --> 00:08:10,531 don't ignore him 'cause you're too traumatized." (CHUCKLES) 145 00:08:10,615 --> 00:08:12,366 And I was like, "Are you telling me 146 00:08:12,450 --> 00:08:13,951 to date somebody in a couple months?" 147 00:08:14,035 --> 00:08:16,037 She's like, "That's exactly what I'm saying." 148 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,623 ♪ (LIVELY MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 149 00:08:18,706 --> 00:08:23,002 I had a, like, friend that was going on, like, weekly hikes. 150 00:08:23,085 --> 00:08:24,503 He was getting me out of the house, 151 00:08:24,587 --> 00:08:25,796 him and his girlfriend. 152 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,090 And I went out on a hike with them, 153 00:08:28,174 --> 00:08:30,384 and halfway up the mountain on this hike... 154 00:08:31,469 --> 00:08:34,555 I met this really, really tall Mexican. 155 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:36,891 ♪ (LIVELY MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 156 00:08:37,642 --> 00:08:39,769 ♪ (DREAMY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 157 00:08:39,852 --> 00:08:42,063 BERNARDO EZETA: When I met her in the forest, it was just, 158 00:08:42,146 --> 00:08:43,648 like, an accident. 159 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,067 But, you know, it's like saying, 160 00:08:46,150 --> 00:08:48,569 how is that accidents become so meaningful? 161 00:08:49,862 --> 00:08:52,698 We just saw each other and I began 162 00:08:52,782 --> 00:08:54,283 to ask questions like... 163 00:08:54,367 --> 00:08:56,452 Because I thought she was a mere tourist. 164 00:08:56,535 --> 00:08:58,704 Yeah. He was asking me questions and I was just like, 165 00:08:58,788 --> 00:09:00,623 "Ah, crap, he speaks English." 166 00:09:00,706 --> 00:09:04,085 (CHUCKLES) "I'm not ready for this." 167 00:09:04,168 --> 00:09:07,964 I have been totally alienated from this thing 168 00:09:08,047 --> 00:09:12,301 in the anarchists in Acapulco. I knew nothing about it. 169 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:15,221 So he Googled me and then he found all of the... 170 00:09:15,304 --> 00:09:18,057 Yeah, that same night. And it was like, 171 00:09:18,140 --> 00:09:21,644 -"Okay. Oh, I see." -(CHUCKLES) 172 00:09:21,727 --> 00:09:24,438 -♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -He promptly Googled that night 173 00:09:24,522 --> 00:09:28,025 and shat his pants as he was like, "Murder?" 174 00:09:29,652 --> 00:09:31,612 But he still went for it. 175 00:09:31,696 --> 00:09:33,447 -My mind was... -Running. 176 00:09:33,531 --> 00:09:35,157 ...was running quite fast. 177 00:09:35,241 --> 00:09:37,118 I questioned all the things in your story 178 00:09:37,201 --> 00:09:40,663 that were not clear to me, right. 179 00:09:40,746 --> 00:09:45,710 But the story itself was, like, not so surprising to me 180 00:09:45,793 --> 00:09:48,504 because of the drug war in Mexico. 181 00:09:49,714 --> 00:09:53,843 There are so many stories that are so similar. 182 00:09:55,303 --> 00:09:59,348 And, well, I just thought they were very naive 183 00:09:59,432 --> 00:10:01,017 by living as they were. 184 00:10:02,935 --> 00:10:07,064 It was, like, these gringos are certainly alienated, 185 00:10:07,148 --> 00:10:09,483 isolated, from the rest of Mexicans. 186 00:10:09,567 --> 00:10:12,153 JEFF: ...summit there. All kinds of stuff, 187 00:10:12,236 --> 00:10:14,322 so really looking forward to seeing you down 188 00:10:14,405 --> 00:10:15,615 in Anarchapulco. 189 00:10:15,698 --> 00:10:18,659 Uh, this year is gonna be a-- a ton of fun. 190 00:10:18,743 --> 00:10:19,827 ♪ (UPBEAT R&B MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 191 00:10:19,910 --> 00:10:22,330 ♪ Anarchapulco is so hype I'm tryna tell ya ♪ 192 00:10:22,413 --> 00:10:23,873 ♪ This the event of the year ♪ 193 00:10:23,956 --> 00:10:26,334 ♪ And best vacation ever Get your tickets ♪ 194 00:10:26,417 --> 00:10:28,169 ♪ You don't wanna miss it... ♪ 195 00:10:28,252 --> 00:10:30,338 PROMOTER 1: For people who don't know, it's Anarchapulco February 13th to 16th. 196 00:10:30,421 --> 00:10:31,797 PROMOTER 2: An incredible, incredible place. 197 00:10:31,881 --> 00:10:34,550 And we still have our promo code, WRC, 198 00:10:34,633 --> 00:10:36,218 where you get 40-percent off tickets. 199 00:10:36,302 --> 00:10:38,512 Come and be a part of the incredible things 200 00:10:38,596 --> 00:10:40,222 -that are happening here. -♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 201 00:10:40,306 --> 00:10:42,266 PROMOTER 2: This is where the conference is gonna go on. 202 00:10:42,350 --> 00:10:45,561 Let's try to walk in. Let's see what we can get in here... 203 00:10:45,644 --> 00:10:48,022 JEFF: The same thing every single person 204 00:10:48,105 --> 00:10:49,690 that's ever gone has ever said is, 205 00:10:49,774 --> 00:10:51,108 "The best thing about Anarchapulco 206 00:10:51,192 --> 00:10:52,777 is the other people at Anarchapulco." 207 00:10:52,860 --> 00:10:56,822 You just get to meet, you know, hundreds or thousands of people 208 00:10:56,906 --> 00:10:58,532 that you just generally don't get to meet 209 00:10:58,616 --> 00:11:01,285 in your sort of day-to-day life for the most part. 210 00:11:01,369 --> 00:11:04,538 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC FADING) ♪ 211 00:11:04,622 --> 00:11:07,917 LILY: I heard from Anarchapulco. 212 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,586 Somebody called me and was basically, like, 213 00:11:10,669 --> 00:11:13,255 "Would you be open-minded to speaking?" 214 00:11:13,339 --> 00:11:15,758 And I told her, I was like... 215 00:11:15,841 --> 00:11:18,260 "I'll consider it, but honestly, like, 216 00:11:18,344 --> 00:11:21,430 that freaks me out." Like every time I think about it 217 00:11:21,514 --> 00:11:23,641 I get anxiety. I get anxiety for everything 218 00:11:23,724 --> 00:11:25,393 from the fact that I'm afraid to give a speech 219 00:11:25,476 --> 00:11:26,435 on the main stage, 220 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:28,604 to announcing that I'm gonna be someplace 221 00:11:28,687 --> 00:11:30,314 at a specific time to-- 222 00:11:30,398 --> 00:11:32,817 You know, last time I was at Anarchapulco I was with-- 223 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:34,568 Every time I've been at Anarchapulco, 224 00:11:34,652 --> 00:11:36,737 it's been with John and it's like 225 00:11:36,821 --> 00:11:38,906 mostly just paranoia, really. 226 00:11:38,989 --> 00:11:41,117 Like, it's just something happened before, 227 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,451 maybe it'll happen again. 228 00:11:42,535 --> 00:11:49,375 ♪ (ENIGMATIC FOLK MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 229 00:11:50,167 --> 00:11:52,628 BERNARDO: Día de los Muertos. 230 00:11:52,711 --> 00:11:56,507 It's kind of a recreation of nature and symbols. 231 00:11:57,550 --> 00:11:58,926 And the entrance of autumn 232 00:11:59,009 --> 00:12:01,470 symbolizes the premonition of death. 233 00:12:01,554 --> 00:12:06,308 ♪ (ENIGMATIC FOLK MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 234 00:12:06,392 --> 00:12:11,272 Hi, honey! Oh, I'm so happy to see you. 235 00:12:11,355 --> 00:12:14,942 LILY: John's grandma came for Day of the Dead. 236 00:12:15,025 --> 00:12:19,113 The whole idea is, it's three days to celebrate 237 00:12:19,196 --> 00:12:20,573 your lost loved ones. 238 00:12:22,158 --> 00:12:24,660 BERNARDO: It's just kind of saying that 239 00:12:24,743 --> 00:12:29,206 no matter how vain we are, we are all going to die. 240 00:12:29,290 --> 00:12:31,584 SUSAN: None of us get out of it alive. 241 00:12:31,667 --> 00:12:33,961 No. And that's precisely... 242 00:12:34,044 --> 00:12:36,297 -We're all dying. (CHUCKLES) -...the comic thing of it, 243 00:12:36,380 --> 00:12:37,923 or the tragic thing of it. 244 00:12:39,383 --> 00:12:43,762 SUSAN: Being able to come back and get to meet her new love, 245 00:12:43,846 --> 00:12:47,349 and seeing that the scabs were growing, 246 00:12:47,433 --> 00:12:50,144 for me, that was part of the healing. 247 00:12:51,353 --> 00:12:53,689 LILY: The whole idea is you build an altar 248 00:12:53,772 --> 00:12:55,566 with these flowers, 249 00:12:55,649 --> 00:12:57,318 which attract a spirit. 250 00:12:58,777 --> 00:13:02,156 And then, you have pictures and their favorite foods, 251 00:13:02,239 --> 00:13:04,116 plus sugar sculptures. 252 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,996 -♪ (ENIGMATIC FOLK MUSIC FADES) ♪ -(BIRDS CHIRPING) 253 00:13:09,079 --> 00:13:10,748 (DOG PANTS) 254 00:13:14,793 --> 00:13:17,838 (RAIN POURING) 255 00:13:19,590 --> 00:13:21,425 JASON HENZA: I feel like I was robbed. 256 00:13:22,384 --> 00:13:25,012 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 257 00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:29,391 The Day of the Dead has really got me thinking 258 00:13:29,475 --> 00:13:34,146 about John a lot and the anarchist community. 259 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:36,649 Losing John really, really hurt 260 00:13:36,732 --> 00:13:39,693 because he was a person I wanted to build around. 261 00:13:39,777 --> 00:13:41,570 Um, I'm trying to recover, 262 00:13:41,654 --> 00:13:43,447 and trying to still build a community. 263 00:13:43,531 --> 00:13:46,784 I think that's the difference between me and him is, like, 264 00:13:46,867 --> 00:13:50,079 the whole event, like, kind of PTSD'd me 265 00:13:50,162 --> 00:13:54,375 towards communities, whereas he is hopeful. 266 00:13:54,458 --> 00:13:57,711 -(THUNDER CRASHING, RUMBLING) -(RAIN PATTERING) 267 00:14:06,262 --> 00:14:09,640 He's telling you, "I'm making it rain hard." 268 00:14:09,723 --> 00:14:12,393 Well, it's raining like a motherfucker right now. 269 00:14:12,476 --> 00:14:14,603 (CHUCKLES) On me, currently. 270 00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:16,522 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 271 00:14:16,605 --> 00:14:19,692 LILY: It is worth noting that life with John was just, 272 00:14:19,775 --> 00:14:21,777 in general, like full of anxiety. 273 00:14:21,860 --> 00:14:23,571 It was full of risks. 274 00:14:23,654 --> 00:14:25,906 (RAIN PATTERING) 275 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:28,867 LILY: Because we were just going from sunup to sundown 276 00:14:28,951 --> 00:14:30,536 for fucking years straight... 277 00:14:31,996 --> 00:14:33,372 essentially pushing 278 00:14:33,455 --> 00:14:37,001 his idealist beliefs and everything. 279 00:14:37,084 --> 00:14:38,711 (THUNDER RUMBLING) 280 00:14:38,794 --> 00:14:41,213 John's big thing that he was always 281 00:14:41,297 --> 00:14:42,464 real strong about is, 282 00:14:42,548 --> 00:14:45,634 "You gotta know what you're willing to die for." 283 00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:48,721 (THUNDER RUMBLING) 284 00:14:49,305 --> 00:14:50,389 He had it all wrong, 285 00:14:50,472 --> 00:14:52,975 you need to know what you're willing to live for. 286 00:14:53,058 --> 00:14:55,394 -(RUMBLING CONTINUES) -♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC SWELLS) ♪ 287 00:14:58,022 --> 00:15:00,524 LILY: So I keep seeing things like Acapulco sand... 288 00:15:03,944 --> 00:15:08,324 dog hair and, like, other weird gunk. 289 00:15:08,407 --> 00:15:11,535 SUSAN: Combing out the past of your life. 290 00:15:13,037 --> 00:15:15,414 Hold on to the memories that are precious to you 291 00:15:15,497 --> 00:15:18,292 and let go of the things that are painful. 292 00:15:20,085 --> 00:15:23,714 LILY: My dreadlocks, that was the closest thing that we had to 293 00:15:23,797 --> 00:15:25,549 like, a wedding ring. 294 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:29,637 I did that to essentially fully commit myself 295 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,013 to his lifestyle. 296 00:15:32,348 --> 00:15:34,683 Like, devote my entire life to it 297 00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:37,311 and make that my only choice in life. 298 00:15:39,938 --> 00:15:40,981 I was moving on. 299 00:15:41,065 --> 00:15:44,526 I was tired of being associated with all of that. 300 00:15:45,819 --> 00:15:48,155 I wanted to figure out who I was, 301 00:15:48,238 --> 00:15:50,908 and who I was, was tired of fucking dreadlocks. 302 00:15:50,991 --> 00:15:55,037 -♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC FADES) ♪ -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 303 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,332 LILY: At that point, I decided to take the risk 304 00:15:58,415 --> 00:16:00,834 -and tell my story. -♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 305 00:16:00,918 --> 00:16:04,254 I was going back to Acapulco. 306 00:16:04,338 --> 00:16:06,256 I was going to speak at the conference. 307 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,844 I wanted to send a message and a warning. 308 00:16:10,928 --> 00:16:14,014 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC FADES) ♪ 309 00:16:14,098 --> 00:16:16,266 (CAR HORNS BLARING) 310 00:16:16,350 --> 00:16:22,981 ♪ (JAUNTY BAND MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 311 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:26,193 -♪ (MEDITATIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -MC: Sisters, brothers, 312 00:16:26,276 --> 00:16:28,362 hear this! 313 00:16:28,445 --> 00:16:32,408 The time has arrived for a new kind of fearless 314 00:16:32,491 --> 00:16:35,119 as we near this pivotal moment... 315 00:16:35,202 --> 00:16:38,038 DAYNA MARTIN: Our theme for this year is "evolve." 316 00:16:39,456 --> 00:16:41,875 To move past the anger and the frustration 317 00:16:41,959 --> 00:16:45,129 and to live successfully as a sovereign individual. 318 00:16:45,212 --> 00:16:46,755 CONFERENCE SPEAKER: ...Anarchapulco 2020, 319 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:49,591 as we evolve toward an Earth of purpose, 320 00:16:49,675 --> 00:16:53,762 beauty, freedom, and liberty! 321 00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:58,016 (AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 322 00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:59,226 RAPPER 1: Yeah. 323 00:16:59,309 --> 00:17:00,936 RAPPER 2: All right, everybody time to stand up. 324 00:17:01,019 --> 00:17:03,021 -Get on your feet -PERFORMER 2: Anarchapulco! 325 00:17:03,105 --> 00:17:04,231 Let's go! 326 00:17:04,314 --> 00:17:06,859 DANNY SESSOM: Welcome to The Crypto Show in Anarchapulco. 327 00:17:06,942 --> 00:17:09,403 And we're lucky enough to have Jason Henza. 328 00:17:09,486 --> 00:17:11,280 And, gosh, I don't know. 329 00:17:11,363 --> 00:17:13,490 Should I go, just Lily Forester? 330 00:17:13,574 --> 00:17:14,908 Yeah, that's what I go by. 331 00:17:14,992 --> 00:17:17,202 That's what most people know me as, or Lily Divine. 332 00:17:17,286 --> 00:17:21,999 ♪ (DREAMY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 333 00:17:22,082 --> 00:17:26,879 Everything about you changed to a completely different aura. 334 00:17:26,962 --> 00:17:28,422 I don't know. You know, I don't like 335 00:17:28,505 --> 00:17:29,882 going into hippy shit, but for real. 336 00:17:29,965 --> 00:17:32,217 Yeah, no, I get what you mean. Like, and it's something... 337 00:17:32,301 --> 00:17:34,511 LILY: People see me getting better now, 338 00:17:34,595 --> 00:17:37,806 but, like, they don't know what all I had to go through 339 00:17:37,890 --> 00:17:40,017 to become what I am. 340 00:17:41,018 --> 00:17:43,145 And it's been an awful process. 341 00:17:43,228 --> 00:17:45,773 I want people to truly fully understand 342 00:17:45,856 --> 00:17:48,525 the ugly side of anarchy and freedom. 343 00:17:48,609 --> 00:17:52,362 (CROWD GRUNTING RHYTHMICALLY) 344 00:17:52,446 --> 00:17:54,281 PRESENTER: Nice, that's it. 345 00:17:54,364 --> 00:17:58,786 (AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 346 00:17:58,869 --> 00:18:00,662 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING OVER SPEAKERS) ♪ 347 00:18:00,746 --> 00:18:02,289 VOICEOVER: He stood outside the Federal Reserve 348 00:18:02,372 --> 00:18:05,292 in Philadelphia, shouting "Fuck you, Ben Bernanke." 349 00:18:05,375 --> 00:18:07,419 Rapped "Bitcoin All the Way Up." 350 00:18:07,503 --> 00:18:10,130 He's been drunk as fuck on his podcast, 351 00:18:10,214 --> 00:18:11,381 battled depression, 352 00:18:11,465 --> 00:18:13,759 injected stem cells into his own dick, 353 00:18:13,842 --> 00:18:16,845 and taken every psychedelic known to man. 354 00:18:16,929 --> 00:18:18,263 Ladies and gentlemen, 355 00:18:18,347 --> 00:18:23,852 your host for Anarchapulco 2020, Jeff Berwick. 356 00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:28,649 -(AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) -♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC FADING) ♪ 357 00:18:30,526 --> 00:18:32,903 JEFF: How many people were told by their friends, family, 358 00:18:32,986 --> 00:18:35,364 or Facebook friends 359 00:18:35,447 --> 00:18:38,951 that they shouldn't come to Acapulco, Mexico, 360 00:18:39,034 --> 00:18:40,160 it's too dangerous? 361 00:18:40,244 --> 00:18:42,287 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 362 00:18:42,371 --> 00:18:44,581 -It's pretty dangerous, right? -AUDIENCE MEMBER: So dangerous! 363 00:18:44,665 --> 00:18:45,999 (CHUCKLES) 364 00:18:46,083 --> 00:18:49,044 If there's one little piece of advice I can give you is, 365 00:18:49,127 --> 00:18:50,546 whatever those people tell you, 366 00:18:50,629 --> 00:18:53,674 do the exact opposite, always, basically and you'll be good. 367 00:18:53,757 --> 00:18:55,926 -(CHUCKLES) -(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) 368 00:18:58,595 --> 00:19:00,430 JEFF: I do want to say something though. 369 00:19:02,057 --> 00:19:06,478 This is incredibly hard to do, this stuff. 370 00:19:07,688 --> 00:19:10,899 It's like the whole world is trying to fight us. 371 00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:13,026 You know, you can try to change the system, 372 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:14,778 or the whole system fights you, I guess. 373 00:19:14,862 --> 00:19:16,363 I guess. I'm trying to figure it out. 374 00:19:16,446 --> 00:19:18,031 Actually, I don't even care anymore. 375 00:19:18,115 --> 00:19:19,241 It's like, "Whatever." 376 00:19:19,324 --> 00:19:21,785 'Cause I used to want to, like, save the whole world. 377 00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:24,913 And I don't think I-- Well, obviously I can't. 378 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,290 Well, anything's possible. 379 00:19:26,373 --> 00:19:29,251 I don't know if this is, like, some sort of spiritual war, 380 00:19:29,334 --> 00:19:31,420 or maybe it's all in my own head, right? 381 00:19:31,503 --> 00:19:33,005 ♪ (UNSETTLING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 382 00:19:33,088 --> 00:19:36,592 Like maybe I'm creating all this. 383 00:19:36,675 --> 00:19:39,553 Hey, Lucy. (CHUCKLES) Yeah. 384 00:19:39,636 --> 00:19:41,763 That's my girl, yeah. 385 00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:43,807 All right, we're almost done, Lucy. 386 00:19:44,725 --> 00:19:46,184 Let me ask you guys, 387 00:19:46,268 --> 00:19:48,854 should we try to help the whole world? 388 00:19:48,937 --> 00:19:51,064 -AUDIENCE: No. -It's about 50/50 389 00:19:51,148 --> 00:19:52,566 -yes and no there. Yeah. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 390 00:19:52,649 --> 00:19:54,318 I'm trying to figure that out. 391 00:19:56,820 --> 00:19:58,447 ♪ (UNSETTLING MUSIC FADES) ♪ 392 00:19:59,281 --> 00:20:01,283 (SIGHS) 393 00:20:05,495 --> 00:20:07,414 -AUDIENCE MEMBER 1: Love you. -AUDIENCE MEMBER 2: Thank you. 394 00:20:07,497 --> 00:20:09,082 -AUDIENCE MEMBER 3: Yeah. -I'll leave it there. 395 00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:11,877 Enjoy your time, thank you very much for coming. 396 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,087 -(AUDIENCE CHEERS, APPLAUDS) -Thank you. 397 00:20:17,466 --> 00:20:21,136 -♪ (LIVELY POP MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -PROMOTER 1: Have a magical Anarchapulco 2020. 398 00:20:21,219 --> 00:20:24,264 PROMOTER 2: You are surrounded by evolving 399 00:20:24,348 --> 00:20:28,143 human beings. And that is what it's all about. 400 00:20:30,771 --> 00:20:33,357 -♪ (POP MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -(PLANE ENGINE ROARING IN THE DISTANCE) 401 00:20:38,737 --> 00:20:39,738 Wow. 402 00:20:42,532 --> 00:20:43,784 I haven't got that concept. 403 00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:48,121 I don't quite understand what this is all about, you know? 404 00:20:48,205 --> 00:20:50,582 ♪ (EMOTIONAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 405 00:20:50,666 --> 00:20:52,793 STAFF: We're way back here, somewhere. 406 00:20:52,876 --> 00:20:55,337 RANDY WEBB: I got past these airports. These airports-- 407 00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:56,838 I don't like airports. 408 00:20:58,715 --> 00:21:01,301 I had no desire to ever cross that border. 409 00:21:03,637 --> 00:21:06,264 Closest I've been to Mexico was Tucson. 410 00:21:08,934 --> 00:21:09,977 Acapulco... 411 00:21:11,353 --> 00:21:13,063 you know? 412 00:21:13,146 --> 00:21:15,315 I had to look at the map. "Where the hell is that? 413 00:21:15,399 --> 00:21:17,359 It's way down there." (CHUCKLES) 414 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,493 RANDY: Um... Since, um, 415 00:21:26,576 --> 00:21:29,246 her and Shane got in trouble. 416 00:21:29,329 --> 00:21:31,415 Uh, five years or better. 417 00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:35,460 TODD SCHRAMKE: Why did you continue to stay disconnected 418 00:21:35,544 --> 00:21:37,879 from your father for all these years? 419 00:21:37,963 --> 00:21:40,382 ♪ (EMOTIONAL MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 420 00:21:40,465 --> 00:21:44,344 Because I couldn't contact him. I wasn't allowed. 421 00:21:44,428 --> 00:21:47,889 It was very much like, if I contacted him, 422 00:21:47,973 --> 00:21:50,392 then I picked my family over John, 423 00:21:50,475 --> 00:21:53,228 and John was gonna make a big thing out of it. 424 00:21:55,564 --> 00:21:58,608 -(SIGHS) -♪ (EMOTIONAL MUSIC SWELLS, FADES) ♪ 425 00:22:02,654 --> 00:22:05,323 (ROOSTER CROWS) 426 00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:14,041 ♪ (DREAMY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 427 00:22:14,124 --> 00:22:17,002 LILY: (SNIFFLING) Welcome to Acapulco. (CHUCKLES) 428 00:22:17,085 --> 00:22:20,338 -RANDY: (CHUCKLES) Yeah, I made it. I made it. -(LILY SNIFFLES) 429 00:22:20,422 --> 00:22:23,967 Welcome. This is baby dog. Renegade. 430 00:22:24,051 --> 00:22:25,343 RANDY: He's a big puppy. 431 00:22:25,427 --> 00:22:26,636 (PANTS) 432 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,263 LILY: This is Bernardo. 433 00:22:28,346 --> 00:22:30,724 -Hello. -He's very good to me. 434 00:22:37,731 --> 00:22:39,149 Wow, this is beautiful. 435 00:22:40,233 --> 00:22:42,110 LILY: I'm gonna go stick my feet in it. 436 00:22:42,819 --> 00:22:43,987 RANDY: You have fun. 437 00:22:47,657 --> 00:22:48,825 (LILY CHUCKLES) 438 00:22:50,368 --> 00:22:52,913 (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 439 00:22:52,996 --> 00:22:55,248 RANDY: It was good see her after all that time. 440 00:22:55,332 --> 00:22:59,211 It's just sad that it had to take Shane's death 441 00:22:59,294 --> 00:23:02,214 for me to get back in contact with her. 442 00:23:02,297 --> 00:23:04,424 So where you guys originally were over on the other side... 443 00:23:04,508 --> 00:23:06,510 -On the other side of that. -...of that big mountain. 444 00:23:06,593 --> 00:23:07,594 Yeah. 445 00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:13,975 ♪ (DREAMY MUSIC FADING) ♪ 446 00:23:14,059 --> 00:23:16,895 LILY: The murder was a big shakeout of people. 447 00:23:16,978 --> 00:23:18,772 (BIRDS CAWING) 448 00:23:18,855 --> 00:23:20,857 LILY: Like, there were a lot of people that kind of gave up 449 00:23:20,941 --> 00:23:22,859 on the anarchy thing because somebody got killed. 450 00:23:24,194 --> 00:23:26,071 I'm like, "Okay, at least you're admitting 451 00:23:26,154 --> 00:23:28,198 that you aren't, you know, this." 452 00:23:29,699 --> 00:23:31,284 TODD: Despite efforts to rebuild 453 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:33,954 from the chaos of the previous year, 454 00:23:34,037 --> 00:23:37,707 Anarchapulco 2020 saw a 70-percent drop in attendance. 455 00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:38,917 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 456 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,794 JEFF: Every year, there was always a few people 457 00:23:40,877 --> 00:23:42,712 who were just causing a lot of problems, 458 00:23:42,796 --> 00:23:44,464 and they don't seem to be coming anymore, 459 00:23:44,548 --> 00:23:45,924 which I think is fine. (CHUCKLES) 460 00:23:46,007 --> 00:23:47,342 ♪ (UPBEAT SYNTH MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 461 00:23:47,425 --> 00:23:51,221 JEFF: There's just such a different vibe here now. 462 00:23:51,304 --> 00:23:52,556 A lot of people in this community 463 00:23:52,639 --> 00:23:54,349 have really transformed themselves a lot. 464 00:23:54,432 --> 00:23:56,351 RON PAUL: I figured they were really into this philosophy 465 00:23:56,434 --> 00:23:58,353 and I made a statement, and I said, "You know, 466 00:23:58,436 --> 00:24:01,022 some of my best friends are anarchists." 467 00:24:01,106 --> 00:24:03,316 JEFF: A big part of the problem in the past is, 468 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,195 it was a lot more kind of just-- What's that saying in the US? 469 00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:09,656 "Give us your broke and your downtrodden." 470 00:24:09,739 --> 00:24:11,950 That's kind of similar to what we've been doing 471 00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:13,076 for the last few years. 472 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,787 ♪ (UPBEAT SYNTH MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 473 00:24:19,708 --> 00:24:21,001 JEFF: Everyone's damaged, of course, 474 00:24:21,084 --> 00:24:23,712 but the people who kind of wake up to what we know 475 00:24:23,795 --> 00:24:25,380 are some of the most damaged people. 476 00:24:25,463 --> 00:24:26,882 And you get them all in one place 477 00:24:26,965 --> 00:24:28,383 and a lot of crazy stuff can happen. 478 00:24:28,466 --> 00:24:30,468 -♪ (HIP-HOP MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -♪ Each and every one them ♪ 479 00:24:30,552 --> 00:24:31,887 -♪ Fuck government ♪ -Sing it! 480 00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:32,846 ♪ Fuck government ♪ 481 00:24:32,929 --> 00:24:34,389 -♪ Fuck government ♪ -Sing it! 482 00:24:34,472 --> 00:24:36,349 ♪ Fuck government Fuck government ♪ 483 00:24:36,433 --> 00:24:39,436 -Sing it! -♪ Fuck government Fuck the government ♪ 484 00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:40,729 ♪ Each and every one of them ♪ 485 00:24:40,812 --> 00:24:43,356 ♪ Dollar vigilante All up in your hearsay ♪ 486 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,692 ♪ Yes, I'm back, once again Here to rock the party ♪ 487 00:24:45,775 --> 00:24:48,528 ♪ And I ain't talkin' 'Bout political parties ♪ 488 00:24:48,612 --> 00:24:49,654 ♪ Those parties suck ♪ 489 00:24:49,738 --> 00:24:51,323 ♪ I'm talkin' bout Wreckin' the party ♪ 490 00:24:51,406 --> 00:24:53,366 -♪ Fuck government ♪ -♪ What, c'mon ♪ 491 00:24:53,450 --> 00:24:55,076 ♪ Fuck government Fuck government ♪ 492 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,786 -♪ Say what ♪ -♪ Fuck government ♪ 493 00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:58,330 -♪ Fuck government ♪ -♪ Yeah ♪ 494 00:24:58,413 --> 00:25:00,874 ♪ Fuck government Fuck the government... ♪ 495 00:25:00,957 --> 00:25:02,125 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 496 00:25:02,209 --> 00:25:04,586 TODD: How much the conference had truly changed 497 00:25:04,669 --> 00:25:06,254 wasn't immediately clear. 498 00:25:07,005 --> 00:25:08,590 And things only got muddier 499 00:25:08,673 --> 00:25:10,842 that first night when Jeff was confronted 500 00:25:10,926 --> 00:25:12,552 by one of his new speakers. 501 00:25:13,762 --> 00:25:14,804 QUINN EAKER: I don't care. 502 00:25:14,888 --> 00:25:16,431 Like he can do whatever the fuck he wants. 503 00:25:16,514 --> 00:25:18,308 I'm not gonna fucking try to ruin him. 504 00:25:21,061 --> 00:25:22,562 QUINN: I mean, this is his conference, 505 00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:25,065 and it's just a fucking religion. 506 00:25:25,148 --> 00:25:27,442 They pretend, and they go to the fucking conference 507 00:25:27,525 --> 00:25:29,236 like they go to church on Sunday. 508 00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:31,029 And just because you go to a conference, 509 00:25:31,112 --> 00:25:33,949 you're fucking free, you're an anarchist. No. 510 00:25:43,875 --> 00:25:48,463 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 511 00:25:48,546 --> 00:25:50,340 (INDISTINCT CLAMORING) 512 00:25:50,423 --> 00:25:52,509 -CROWD MEMBERS: Yeah! -♪ (TENSE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 513 00:25:52,592 --> 00:25:54,344 CROWD: Ooh! 514 00:25:54,427 --> 00:25:57,430 JEFF: I think when I hit him in the face once, he-- 515 00:25:57,514 --> 00:26:00,809 Maybe he has a memory from when he was younger 516 00:26:00,892 --> 00:26:04,646 of someone really hurting him, and he lost it. 517 00:26:08,525 --> 00:26:12,862 (INDISTINCT CLAMORING) 518 00:26:17,158 --> 00:26:18,702 I didn't actually have my bodyguard there, 519 00:26:18,785 --> 00:26:20,078 or he'd be dead. 520 00:26:20,161 --> 00:26:23,623 But, uh, yeah, he-- Yeah, yeah. It's all good, it's all good. 521 00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:28,336 My nose is bleeding right now. Okay? 522 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:31,673 -(CROWD CHEERING) -♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 523 00:26:31,756 --> 00:26:35,385 JASON HENZA: When we give in to these negative urges 524 00:26:35,468 --> 00:26:38,680 and we act like completely wild, crazy people, 525 00:26:39,556 --> 00:26:41,349 we're putting up this persona 526 00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:43,018 that we're a bunch of high school kids 527 00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:45,562 with no-- no consequences. 528 00:26:45,645 --> 00:26:47,605 We're all lumped together down here, 529 00:26:47,689 --> 00:26:49,107 like it or not. 530 00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:53,320 And when I see these people fail, 531 00:26:53,403 --> 00:26:55,947 they make Statism look like a better idea, 532 00:26:56,031 --> 00:26:57,824 and that pisses me off. 533 00:26:57,907 --> 00:27:01,536 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC SWELLS, FADES) ♪ 534 00:27:01,619 --> 00:27:04,748 TODD: The low turnout and general lack of cohesion 535 00:27:04,831 --> 00:27:07,334 made me wonder if things might have been different 536 00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:10,045 had Nathan stayed involved. 537 00:27:10,128 --> 00:27:14,549 How did it seem Nathan was handling all of this, 538 00:27:14,632 --> 00:27:18,887 just for him to see this happen to this conference 539 00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:20,638 that he worked so hard to build? 540 00:27:20,722 --> 00:27:23,516 LARKEN ROSE: I think it was just a travesty. 541 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,560 You know, first of all, he loses control of it 542 00:27:25,643 --> 00:27:28,772 and then he watches it turn into this giant mess 543 00:27:28,855 --> 00:27:31,941 because he wasn't there to make it not be a mess. 544 00:27:32,025 --> 00:27:33,485 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 545 00:27:33,568 --> 00:27:36,279 LARKEN: He did a lot of juggling acts in the earlier years. 546 00:27:36,363 --> 00:27:39,366 I got called back to the floor 'cause there was a crisis. 547 00:27:39,449 --> 00:27:41,284 And then I got called away to another crisis. 548 00:27:41,368 --> 00:27:43,286 Sorry, just hang on there for a second. 549 00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:46,206 And there were little peppers of problems in between, 550 00:27:46,289 --> 00:27:48,666 but they weren't crises, they were just problems. 551 00:27:48,750 --> 00:27:51,461 So, finally, I got them all taken care of. 552 00:27:52,754 --> 00:27:54,798 AMANDA ROSE: Like everybody involved cared about everybody, 553 00:27:54,881 --> 00:27:57,258 -because he also cared about everybody. -LARKEN: Yeah. 554 00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:59,552 AMANDA: He just desperately wanted to see the world 555 00:27:59,636 --> 00:28:01,596 much more happy and much more free. 556 00:28:02,847 --> 00:28:04,724 And Anarchapulco was just his way 557 00:28:04,808 --> 00:28:06,351 to help make that happen. 558 00:28:06,434 --> 00:28:08,103 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 559 00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:13,191 LISA: Nathan is a very, very sensitive, loving person. 560 00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:17,695 But... he just lost the-- (SIGHS) 561 00:28:17,779 --> 00:28:21,241 I don't know, he lost faith in the goodness of people. 562 00:28:21,324 --> 00:28:24,744 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 563 00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:27,247 LISA: At the time, we had kind of gotten 564 00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:30,375 into a not-so-financially-stable place 565 00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:34,337 because we invested in a lot of people's projects, 566 00:28:34,421 --> 00:28:36,881 especially around the Freedom Movement, 567 00:28:36,965 --> 00:28:41,636 books being written or podcasts being produced. 568 00:28:41,719 --> 00:28:44,180 We gave a lot of our own money to the conference, 569 00:28:44,264 --> 00:28:46,933 both of them, Anarchawakening and Anarchapulco. 570 00:28:47,016 --> 00:28:49,811 And Nathan always believed the better of people, 571 00:28:49,894 --> 00:28:52,772 that they would inevitably-- It would come back around. 572 00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:54,566 (IRA BELLE FREEMAN FUSSING) 573 00:28:54,649 --> 00:28:56,276 LISA: It's just one of those times 574 00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:59,112 where everything is just hard to do everything. 575 00:28:59,195 --> 00:29:00,530 META FREEMAN: Can you imagine... 576 00:29:00,613 --> 00:29:02,449 LISA: Just like grinding, you know, when you're just-- 577 00:29:02,532 --> 00:29:05,702 Nobody wants to pay, everyone's got issues. 578 00:29:07,454 --> 00:29:11,416 Nathan started getting snappy. His personality shifted. 579 00:29:11,499 --> 00:29:14,002 He was always under the influence. 580 00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:16,171 And he just was working all the time, 581 00:29:16,254 --> 00:29:17,922 even on Saturdays and Sundays. 582 00:29:18,006 --> 00:29:20,800 And it was him in his office drinking, 583 00:29:20,884 --> 00:29:24,512 trying to wrap his head around the world. 584 00:29:24,596 --> 00:29:29,767 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC SWELLS, FADES) ♪ 585 00:29:33,104 --> 00:29:35,398 LILY: Living like this is not easy. 586 00:29:35,482 --> 00:29:38,651 -♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -LILY: If you fully commit to this lifestyle, 587 00:29:38,735 --> 00:29:40,487 you're gonna lose a lot. 588 00:29:40,570 --> 00:29:42,614 MC: Our first presenter today 589 00:29:42,697 --> 00:29:45,492 is very special to the Anarchapulco family. 590 00:29:45,575 --> 00:29:46,993 She and her partner, John... 591 00:29:47,076 --> 00:29:50,497 LILY: It's not that easy and it's not that fun. 592 00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:52,707 It's fucking hard and it's getting harder. 593 00:29:52,790 --> 00:29:55,585 MC: Please welcome Lily Forester. 594 00:29:55,668 --> 00:29:57,504 ♪ (LIVELY MUSIC PLAYING OVER SPEAKERS) ♪ 595 00:29:57,587 --> 00:30:02,634 (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING, CHEERING) 596 00:30:02,717 --> 00:30:04,344 (LILY CLEARS THROAT) 597 00:30:04,427 --> 00:30:05,720 -♪ (LIVELY MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -Well, hi. 598 00:30:05,803 --> 00:30:08,681 This is in case I get too-- too light-headed 599 00:30:08,765 --> 00:30:10,975 'cause I'll admit it, I'm a little nervous. 600 00:30:11,059 --> 00:30:12,685 Um... 601 00:30:12,769 --> 00:30:14,646 I was a little naive when I was 18 602 00:30:14,729 --> 00:30:17,273 and I found anarchy, and I was like, 603 00:30:17,357 --> 00:30:19,442 "Fuck yeah, we're gonna do this. 604 00:30:19,526 --> 00:30:21,986 Taxation is theft and voting doesn't work, 605 00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:24,531 and, you know, we're all slaves and all this bullshit." 606 00:30:24,614 --> 00:30:26,699 -And, uh... -♪ (SOLEMN MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 607 00:30:26,783 --> 00:30:30,245 ...it kinda seemed a little abstract at the time. 608 00:30:30,328 --> 00:30:31,955 Not necessarily, anymore. 609 00:30:34,082 --> 00:30:35,875 My story is all about 610 00:30:35,959 --> 00:30:40,171 what happens when you live free in an unfree world. 611 00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:42,924 When I first moved here, I was like, 612 00:30:43,007 --> 00:30:46,052 "Anybody can do what I do." And, um, no. (CHUCKLES) 613 00:30:47,178 --> 00:30:50,515 If you're not ready to live truly in anarchy, 614 00:30:50,598 --> 00:30:53,226 don't worry about it 'cause it's hard. 615 00:30:53,309 --> 00:30:55,728 It takes a special set of cojones. 616 00:30:55,812 --> 00:30:58,314 ♪ (SOLEMN MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 617 00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:01,067 LILY: I don't think everybody should move to Mexico. 618 00:31:01,651 --> 00:31:02,735 Not anymore. 619 00:31:03,403 --> 00:31:04,571 (MOUSE CLICKING) 620 00:31:04,654 --> 00:31:06,739 LILY: So when people say, "I'm thinking about going 621 00:31:06,823 --> 00:31:08,241 on the run too." 622 00:31:08,324 --> 00:31:11,077 -(MOUSE CLICKING) -LILY: And I'm just like, "You can't handle it. 623 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,662 I can barely handle it." 624 00:31:15,456 --> 00:31:18,334 In 2019, this happened. 625 00:31:19,586 --> 00:31:22,297 And it was the loss of everything. 626 00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:24,632 Everything that could go wrong did go wrong. 627 00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:29,637 And I was like, "All right, well, I'm totally fucked." 628 00:31:29,721 --> 00:31:31,973 When the event happened, there were two types of people. 629 00:31:32,056 --> 00:31:33,933 There were the people that were fucking there. 630 00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:35,810 And then there were the people that were like, 631 00:31:35,893 --> 00:31:38,605 "You are a security risk in yourself." 632 00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:44,193 We used to say, "Acapulco is safe," 633 00:31:44,277 --> 00:31:47,572 but I've learned that safety is an illusion. 634 00:31:49,949 --> 00:31:52,493 I'm tired of the whole "Acapulco is perfectly safe," 635 00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:53,995 when it's not. 636 00:31:54,078 --> 00:31:57,248 We acted as if it was, and it never was. 637 00:31:58,875 --> 00:32:00,918 Acapulco's not safe, 638 00:32:01,002 --> 00:32:02,587 but I never came here to be safe, 639 00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:04,213 I came here to have freedom. 640 00:32:04,297 --> 00:32:07,467 And I got that, but you have to take that if you come here. 641 00:32:08,468 --> 00:32:10,678 If we do that, we need to recognize 642 00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:14,849 there is inherent risk, loss of life, freedom or both. 643 00:32:16,392 --> 00:32:18,728 So, just be careful. 644 00:32:21,397 --> 00:32:23,066 -Thank you. -♪ (SOLEMN MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 645 00:32:23,149 --> 00:32:29,238 (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING, CHEERING) 646 00:32:34,202 --> 00:32:36,329 Proud. (CHUCKLES) 647 00:32:37,705 --> 00:32:38,998 Um... 648 00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:48,549 Um, most definitely, if she'll be here. (CHUCKLES) 649 00:32:48,633 --> 00:32:51,636 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -I'd like to see her come home, 650 00:32:52,345 --> 00:32:54,555 or be able to come home. 651 00:32:54,639 --> 00:32:58,309 I get it, you know, I've seen what she loves about Mexico. 652 00:32:58,393 --> 00:33:01,729 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 653 00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:03,856 I can see the friends that are surrounding her. 654 00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:09,862 I'm gonna feel a lot more at ease going home tomorrow... 655 00:33:11,114 --> 00:33:12,990 knowing she's with good people. 656 00:33:14,409 --> 00:33:17,870 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 657 00:33:19,997 --> 00:33:22,709 I mean, that I don't get deported. 658 00:33:22,792 --> 00:33:25,461 JASON: Don't get deported. That's a real good birthday wish. 659 00:33:25,545 --> 00:33:26,713 (LAUGHS) 660 00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:29,090 That's the only one I really care about. I like my life. 661 00:33:29,173 --> 00:33:30,174 Fuck it. 662 00:33:30,258 --> 00:33:34,262 What are you hoping for with your legal status? 663 00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:38,266 I just want to not have to look over my shoulder. 664 00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:42,937 It doesn't really make sense to force me back into the US... 665 00:33:44,105 --> 00:33:47,024 into a culture that I never belonged in. 666 00:33:47,108 --> 00:33:49,986 LILY'S FRIENDS: ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 667 00:33:50,069 --> 00:33:52,488 LILY: I love Mexico. 668 00:33:52,572 --> 00:33:55,742 I've been in here for six years and I've never left the country 669 00:33:55,825 --> 00:33:58,286 and I don't have interest in leaving the country. 670 00:33:59,203 --> 00:34:00,246 Fuck you, guys. 671 00:34:00,329 --> 00:34:04,792 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 672 00:34:04,876 --> 00:34:07,336 -(FRIENDS CHEERING) -(CHUCKLES) 673 00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:09,505 We have to sing the Mexican version. 674 00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:11,174 TODD: What's the Mexican version? 675 00:34:11,257 --> 00:34:18,431 ♪ (BOTH SINGING IN SPANISH) ♪ 676 00:34:18,514 --> 00:34:20,808 LILY: There's a program in Mexico 677 00:34:20,892 --> 00:34:23,478 called The Asylum Program. It's a refugee program. 678 00:34:23,561 --> 00:34:26,189 And if you can convince Mexico that you had a good reason 679 00:34:26,272 --> 00:34:27,440 to flee your home country 680 00:34:27,523 --> 00:34:29,108 and then come into Mexico illegally, 681 00:34:29,192 --> 00:34:31,068 they'll give you permanent residency. 682 00:34:31,152 --> 00:34:33,946 -♪ (SINGING IN SPANISH) ♪ -LILY: That's something I'm hoping for. 683 00:34:34,030 --> 00:34:40,620 ♪ (CONTINUES SINGING IN SPANISH) ♪ 684 00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:44,957 ♪ (VOCALIZING, SINGING CONCLUDES) ♪ 685 00:34:45,041 --> 00:34:49,086 (ALL LAUGHING) 686 00:34:49,170 --> 00:34:50,421 RANDY: That was really good. 687 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,803 PRESENTER: As you take this opportunity to turn inward 688 00:34:56,886 --> 00:34:58,679 and allow yourself to sink deeper 689 00:34:58,763 --> 00:35:00,723 and deeper and deeper into this space... 690 00:35:00,807 --> 00:35:03,059 -And instead be your sound. -...and into this moment. 691 00:35:03,142 --> 00:35:06,938 -(CROWD CHANTING) -♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 692 00:35:07,814 --> 00:35:09,774 (CHEERS, GRUNTS) 693 00:35:09,857 --> 00:35:14,278 (AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 694 00:35:15,696 --> 00:35:18,115 You know the tagline, and I think we're doing this. 695 00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:23,287 It is, "We are, it is time to evolve." Thank you. 696 00:35:23,371 --> 00:35:28,459 (AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 697 00:35:29,794 --> 00:35:31,838 TODD: In the past, there's been a lot of effort to promote 698 00:35:31,921 --> 00:35:34,006 Acapulco as a safe place. 699 00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:36,801 But then Lily gets up on stage and says, 700 00:35:36,884 --> 00:35:39,387 "Well, Acapulco actually is kinda dangerous, 701 00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:42,014 but anarchy isn't about safety." 702 00:35:42,098 --> 00:35:44,517 Have you changed your mind at all on this? 703 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,396 People sometimes say, well... 704 00:35:48,479 --> 00:35:51,274 "You guys are utopian. You think if you get rid of government, 705 00:35:51,357 --> 00:35:54,026 then there'll be never anyone who would get robbed anymore. 706 00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:56,946 Or anyone will have a-- No one will die anywhere." 707 00:35:57,029 --> 00:36:01,033 No, the-- Life is a very dynamic, very-- 708 00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:02,994 Anything can happen in life. 709 00:36:03,077 --> 00:36:06,330 (PRESENTER VOCALIZING) 710 00:36:06,414 --> 00:36:07,874 JEFF: One thing I've noticed too, 711 00:36:07,957 --> 00:36:10,835 is there's too many men out there. 712 00:36:10,918 --> 00:36:12,879 I can't believe it when a man comes up to me 713 00:36:12,962 --> 00:36:15,256 and goes, "Is it safe to go to Acapulco?" 714 00:36:15,339 --> 00:36:17,425 Or, "Is it safe to go to..." 715 00:36:18,384 --> 00:36:19,886 Name any other country? 716 00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:23,097 Are you a man or not? 717 00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:27,560 ♪ (MEDITATIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 718 00:36:27,643 --> 00:36:30,396 JEFF: Men need to become much stronger men again. 719 00:36:34,525 --> 00:36:36,736 And that's really what it's gonna take, in my opinion, 720 00:36:36,819 --> 00:36:41,657 to get to a stateless world, is men becoming men again 721 00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:43,576 and protecting their communities. 722 00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:49,957 (PRESENTERS EXHALE RHYTHMICALLY) 723 00:36:52,043 --> 00:36:55,630 (RHYTHMIC EXHALING CONTINUES) 724 00:36:57,214 --> 00:36:59,342 ♪ (MEDITATIVE MUSIC FADES) ♪ 725 00:37:00,384 --> 00:37:04,347 (DISHWARE, CUTLERY CLINKING) 726 00:37:07,224 --> 00:37:10,311 LISA: When you have a very injured community... 727 00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:15,107 even when the shit hits the fan, they're still naive to it. 728 00:37:15,191 --> 00:37:18,527 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 729 00:37:18,611 --> 00:37:21,239 It took a while to get people to believe 730 00:37:21,322 --> 00:37:22,782 what was happening with Nathan. 731 00:37:22,865 --> 00:37:25,117 (THUNDER RUMBLING) 732 00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:26,243 ROGER VER: Nathan T. Freeman, 733 00:37:26,327 --> 00:37:28,329 a once-thriving and active person 734 00:37:28,412 --> 00:37:30,122 in his family and his community 735 00:37:30,206 --> 00:37:31,791 is struggling to get out of bed, 736 00:37:31,874 --> 00:37:35,711 use the bathroom, or even drink a glass of water. 737 00:37:35,795 --> 00:37:37,421 TODD: For most of the community, 738 00:37:37,505 --> 00:37:39,006 the first update from the Freemans 739 00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:42,176 in over a year came from a GoFundMe page created by Lisa. 740 00:37:42,259 --> 00:37:43,761 -(MOUSE CLICKING) -♪ (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 741 00:37:43,844 --> 00:37:45,972 LISA: Everything around Nathan was falling apart... 742 00:37:46,055 --> 00:37:48,349 -(MOUSE CLICKING) -LISA: ...including his health. 743 00:37:49,517 --> 00:37:51,102 He had missed about a week of work 744 00:37:51,185 --> 00:37:54,981 because he was so ill and in bed. 745 00:37:55,064 --> 00:37:56,816 -(WATER BURBLING) -(BIRDS CAWING) 746 00:37:56,899 --> 00:37:58,985 LISA: We had a visit to a doctor. 747 00:37:59,694 --> 00:38:01,237 The blood work came back. 748 00:38:03,114 --> 00:38:06,200 His liver was really not in good shape. 749 00:38:07,994 --> 00:38:11,580 It was stage four cirrhosis. 750 00:38:11,664 --> 00:38:16,377 ♪ (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 751 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:18,713 And then I-- We had a scam that happened 752 00:38:18,796 --> 00:38:20,715 and we lost a bunch of money. 753 00:38:20,798 --> 00:38:23,634 ROGER: His caring heart created the circumstances 754 00:38:23,718 --> 00:38:26,512 in which our financial security was erased. 755 00:38:26,595 --> 00:38:28,848 He fell victim to a financial scam 756 00:38:28,931 --> 00:38:30,891 and we lost our family savings. 757 00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:32,059 Controversies aside... 758 00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:34,145 LISA: Roger Ver made a video 759 00:38:34,228 --> 00:38:36,689 talking about what happened with Nathan. 760 00:38:36,772 --> 00:38:39,025 TODD: Roger Ver, the headlining crypto expert 761 00:38:39,108 --> 00:38:42,445 at Anarchapulco, helped to boost Lisa's fundraiser, 762 00:38:42,528 --> 00:38:45,865 after discovering his likeness was used by the scammer. 763 00:38:45,948 --> 00:38:48,492 I just want to talk about these crooks that are out there. 764 00:38:49,493 --> 00:38:51,120 There's a bunch of these accounts 765 00:38:51,203 --> 00:38:53,748 that are pretending to be me. 766 00:38:53,831 --> 00:38:57,877 One of these fake accounts convinced Nathan that he was me 767 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,588 and that he should send him some money, for whatever reason. 768 00:39:00,671 --> 00:39:03,841 They're using cryptocurrency to do that. 769 00:39:03,924 --> 00:39:06,761 LISA: There had been other fraud situations happening 770 00:39:06,844 --> 00:39:09,013 in our community. There was definitely a target 771 00:39:09,096 --> 00:39:10,848 on our community's back. 772 00:39:10,931 --> 00:39:12,892 ANNOUNCER: Known as BitClub Network... 773 00:39:12,975 --> 00:39:14,810 LISA: In the moment, I said to Nathan, 774 00:39:14,894 --> 00:39:17,772 "Wouldn't it be kind of ironic if this person wasn't real 775 00:39:17,855 --> 00:39:19,648 and they just stole our money?" 776 00:39:19,732 --> 00:39:22,109 And he was like, "Yeah, it would be ironic," 777 00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:25,071 and he passed out, he was very drunk. 778 00:39:25,154 --> 00:39:27,573 Well, it turns out that's exactly what happened. 779 00:39:29,742 --> 00:39:31,410 Nathan didn't want to go to the doctor, 780 00:39:31,494 --> 00:39:33,579 because he didn't want to spend 781 00:39:33,662 --> 00:39:36,999 our last bit of money on saving him 782 00:39:37,083 --> 00:39:39,418 because he felt so bad about what happened 783 00:39:39,502 --> 00:39:41,962 with the-- the scam. 784 00:39:42,046 --> 00:39:43,339 So, he's literally dying 785 00:39:43,422 --> 00:39:46,092 because he doesn't wanna spend our money. (BREATHES SHAKILY) 786 00:39:46,175 --> 00:39:49,887 -♪ (SOLEMN MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(MOUSE CLICKING REPEATEDLY) 787 00:39:49,970 --> 00:39:51,806 LISA: I keep showing him. I'm like, "Look, look, 788 00:39:51,889 --> 00:39:53,974 we have, like, 10,000 dollars, 789 00:39:54,058 --> 00:39:56,644 we can go to the fucking hospital now." 790 00:39:58,646 --> 00:40:00,314 (SOBS) 791 00:40:00,397 --> 00:40:03,317 And he wouldn't-- He still wouldn't go. 792 00:40:04,026 --> 00:40:05,736 (BREATHES SHAKILY) 793 00:40:05,820 --> 00:40:06,821 (SOBS) 794 00:40:08,781 --> 00:40:13,536 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 795 00:40:13,619 --> 00:40:15,955 -STAFF MEMBER: This way. -CREW MEMBER: This way? Perfect. 796 00:40:17,206 --> 00:40:18,958 -Come on in. -♪ (SOLEMN MUSIC FADES) ♪ 797 00:40:20,292 --> 00:40:22,628 Sorry, I couldn't save you, my love. 798 00:40:23,629 --> 00:40:25,589 (SOBS) 799 00:40:28,884 --> 00:40:30,761 Please watch out over us. 800 00:40:32,138 --> 00:40:33,514 We'll be fine. 801 00:40:33,597 --> 00:40:36,934 (SNIFFLES, BREATHES HEAVILY) 802 00:40:41,313 --> 00:40:43,399 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 803 00:40:46,569 --> 00:40:48,404 LISA: Goodbye. (SNIFFLES) 804 00:40:51,532 --> 00:40:53,701 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 805 00:40:57,830 --> 00:40:59,165 (LISA SNIFFLES) 806 00:41:00,708 --> 00:41:02,126 -(LISA WHIMPERS) -LISA'S FRIEND: Hey. 807 00:41:03,002 --> 00:41:04,253 (LISA SNIFFLES) 808 00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:08,507 (SOBS) I never-- I don't know. 809 00:41:09,425 --> 00:41:11,051 (SNIFFLES, EXHALES DEEPLY) 810 00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:14,221 -(INDISTINCT ANNOUNCEMENT OVER PA) -♪ (SOMBER MUSIC FADES) ♪ 811 00:41:14,305 --> 00:41:16,432 LISA: The diagnosis didn't look good... 812 00:41:18,058 --> 00:41:22,521 but nobody wanted to believe... (SIGHS) ...that it was... 813 00:41:22,605 --> 00:41:24,023 I mean, looking at it now, 814 00:41:24,106 --> 00:41:27,693 he definitely was in stage five cirrhosis, 815 00:41:28,569 --> 00:41:30,196 and kidney failure. 816 00:41:30,279 --> 00:41:32,364 ♪ (SOLEMN MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 817 00:41:32,448 --> 00:41:35,492 LISA: We were-- we were in ICU, in a special ward 818 00:41:35,576 --> 00:41:37,161 for people that are about to pass. 819 00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:42,291 When I went to go visit him at the hospital to say goodbye, 820 00:41:42,374 --> 00:41:44,710 because there wasn't much I could really say, 821 00:41:44,793 --> 00:41:47,296 because I could-- he couldn't even respond with anything 822 00:41:47,379 --> 00:41:50,132 'cause he could barely speak, I only said, "Hello." 823 00:41:50,966 --> 00:41:54,929 ♪ (SOLEMN MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 824 00:41:55,012 --> 00:41:57,473 AXIOM FREEMAN: Now, I've learned a lesson, 825 00:41:57,556 --> 00:41:59,808 that alcohol is... 826 00:42:02,770 --> 00:42:05,272 Why the fuck did he keep drinking? 827 00:42:06,732 --> 00:42:08,192 He said he'd stop. 828 00:42:15,824 --> 00:42:17,409 LISA: To be quite honest, as soon as we got 829 00:42:17,493 --> 00:42:20,412 into the room, I was like, "You can go, just go. 830 00:42:20,496 --> 00:42:23,165 Just-- There's no reason for you to hang on. 831 00:42:23,249 --> 00:42:25,584 I got this, the kids and I are gonna be fine. 832 00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:28,879 I'm really mad at you, and if I ever see you again, 833 00:42:28,963 --> 00:42:30,756 I'm gonna punch you in the face. 834 00:42:30,839 --> 00:42:33,217 But past that, you can go." 835 00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:36,095 -(VENTILATOR HISSING) -(ECG MACHINE BEEPING) 836 00:42:36,178 --> 00:42:37,304 Okay. 837 00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:43,769 (SOBS) 838 00:42:46,397 --> 00:42:47,940 LISA: I played Rush for him. 839 00:42:48,023 --> 00:42:50,609 The Rush song, "Time Stands Still." 840 00:42:50,693 --> 00:42:51,777 One of his favorites. 841 00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:53,279 ♪ ("TIME STANDS STILL" BY RUSH PLAYING) ♪ 842 00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:56,448 ♪ Time stands still ♪ 843 00:42:56,532 --> 00:43:00,077 ♪ I'm not looking back But I want to look around... ♪ 844 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,621 -♪ (SOLEMN MUSIC RESUMES) ♪ -LISA: You know, every moment matters, 845 00:43:02,705 --> 00:43:05,291 and holding on to the moments, 846 00:43:05,374 --> 00:43:08,585 you know, to slow down time a little bit more. 847 00:43:08,669 --> 00:43:10,170 ♪ (SOLEMN MUSIC FADES) ♪ 848 00:43:11,755 --> 00:43:15,509 LISA: And I said, "I love you and I hope to see you again. 849 00:43:18,012 --> 00:43:20,723 You can go now. It's okay." 850 00:43:20,806 --> 00:43:23,183 And about ten minutes later, he left. 851 00:43:25,602 --> 00:43:30,399 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 852 00:43:30,482 --> 00:43:32,151 LISA: I think losing purpose and passion 853 00:43:32,234 --> 00:43:36,363 around the freedom community really hurt him, significantly. 854 00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:38,991 I think he may have died 855 00:43:39,074 --> 00:43:40,993 a little bit from a broken heart, you know? 856 00:43:41,076 --> 00:43:42,828 I mean, he helped a lot of people, 857 00:43:42,911 --> 00:43:47,458 and sometimes it-- often it wasn't reciprocated. 858 00:43:49,084 --> 00:43:55,424 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 859 00:44:01,805 --> 00:44:04,058 LISA: A lot of people reached out to me... 860 00:44:06,101 --> 00:44:09,063 I-- but never heard a thing from Berwick. 861 00:44:09,980 --> 00:44:11,023 Nothing. 862 00:44:11,106 --> 00:44:13,650 ♪ (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 863 00:44:13,734 --> 00:44:15,110 LISA: Even in the death of someone 864 00:44:15,194 --> 00:44:17,946 who supported the community and the conference... 865 00:44:19,031 --> 00:44:21,241 it only shows how broken... 866 00:44:22,618 --> 00:44:23,911 we are. 867 00:44:23,994 --> 00:44:27,998 No! Cielo, no. Cielo, Cielo, Cielo, ven. 868 00:44:28,082 --> 00:44:29,249 I wasn't sure what to do, 869 00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:31,710 because as far as I knew, Lisa hated me. 870 00:44:31,794 --> 00:44:33,545 That's-- that's what it seemed to me. 871 00:44:35,672 --> 00:44:37,633 So, I didn't actually reach out to them, 872 00:44:37,716 --> 00:44:40,344 which I feel a bit bad about now. 873 00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:45,599 You know, Nathan has now passed away, 874 00:44:45,682 --> 00:44:48,685 but I would say, if he was here right now, I would say... 875 00:44:51,397 --> 00:44:55,192 "You did a good job, with what you had." 876 00:44:55,275 --> 00:44:58,112 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 877 00:44:58,195 --> 00:45:01,156 JEFF: Nathan even said, the first year, he was like, 878 00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:04,535 "It's gonna be 60,000 people in a football stadium, 879 00:45:04,618 --> 00:45:06,453 'Anarchy!'" 880 00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:09,206 Beautiful vision. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. 881 00:45:09,289 --> 00:45:11,166 And you know what? He came close. 882 00:45:12,209 --> 00:45:14,169 That last year he ran it, 883 00:45:15,254 --> 00:45:16,505 it was just amazing. 884 00:45:16,588 --> 00:45:19,216 (PERFORMERS RAPPING INDISTINCTLY) 885 00:45:19,299 --> 00:45:22,261 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC FADES) ♪ 886 00:45:22,344 --> 00:45:24,596 -♪ ("BEHIND THE WALLS" BY DOUGLAS DARE PLAYING) ♪ -NATHAN: All right, 887 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,515 and now we're gonna do one where we wave and smile. 888 00:45:26,598 --> 00:45:28,183 Like, we're talking to Anarchapulco. 889 00:45:28,267 --> 00:45:29,977 (ALL CHEER) 890 00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:33,021 ♪ I saw it in the day ♪ 891 00:45:36,233 --> 00:45:38,652 ♪ And again at night... ♪ 892 00:45:40,195 --> 00:45:41,780 TODD: I first went to Acapulco 893 00:45:41,864 --> 00:45:44,450 curious to understand the community's dream 894 00:45:44,533 --> 00:45:46,827 of one day finding absolute freedom 895 00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:48,454 and personal sovereignty. 896 00:45:49,371 --> 00:45:52,833 But it was the novelty, the hope, 897 00:45:52,916 --> 00:45:55,586 and the absurdity of the experience 898 00:45:55,669 --> 00:45:58,213 that kept me coming back for six years. 899 00:46:00,924 --> 00:46:02,092 And regardless of whether or not 900 00:46:02,176 --> 00:46:04,887 the anarchists succeeded in their dream, 901 00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:07,598 lessons were learned from this journey. 902 00:46:07,681 --> 00:46:10,142 ERIKA HARRIS: At the beginning of it, I went to a conference 903 00:46:10,225 --> 00:46:11,894 and I had my mind blown, 904 00:46:11,977 --> 00:46:15,439 and I had my life totally just sort of, like, shaken. 905 00:46:15,522 --> 00:46:18,775 You know, like the amazingness of everyone else here... 906 00:46:18,859 --> 00:46:21,820 But, as far as living in a community, 907 00:46:21,904 --> 00:46:26,450 one of the things that was missing was intention. 908 00:46:26,533 --> 00:46:32,456 ♪ But you don't fool me... ♪ 909 00:46:32,539 --> 00:46:35,918 ERIKA: You know, after a point you just didn't understand it. 910 00:46:37,127 --> 00:46:39,546 When there's emergency, when there's need, 911 00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:42,591 when there's pain and there's no one around 912 00:46:42,674 --> 00:46:43,717 to have your back, 913 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,095 I would question whether you're in a community. 914 00:46:47,179 --> 00:46:52,059 JUAN: My twenties are profoundly interlinked with Anarchapulco. 915 00:46:52,142 --> 00:46:53,185 Hola, amigo. 916 00:46:53,268 --> 00:46:58,357 ♪ I don't find it funny... ♪ 917 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,194 But, at that point, I was kind of done with it, 918 00:47:02,277 --> 00:47:03,779 like, I was just kinda like... 919 00:47:04,738 --> 00:47:06,323 you know, tired of it. 920 00:47:06,406 --> 00:47:08,283 So I grabbed my stuff and I left Acapulco 921 00:47:08,367 --> 00:47:10,786 and I started traveling, did a little tour of the world. 922 00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,998 I was such a hard anarchist... 923 00:47:15,082 --> 00:47:19,711 that the only way that I could possibly become deradicalized 924 00:47:19,795 --> 00:47:22,089 was by living there and experiencing it... 925 00:47:22,172 --> 00:47:23,757 -(EXPLOSION) -CAMERAMAN: Whoa! 926 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,594 JUAN: ...and seeing the reality of human conflict, 927 00:47:27,678 --> 00:47:30,472 and drama and crisis, and shit hitting the fan. 928 00:47:33,016 --> 00:47:34,685 JASON: Like the main principle 929 00:47:34,768 --> 00:47:37,771 is, "Treat everybody how you want to be treated." 930 00:47:37,855 --> 00:47:39,731 And it sounds pretty basic, right? 931 00:47:39,815 --> 00:47:41,149 But everybody wants 932 00:47:41,233 --> 00:47:43,443 to be treated a little bit differently, 933 00:47:43,527 --> 00:47:46,905 and it makes it a very subjective situation. 934 00:47:46,989 --> 00:47:49,783 ♪ I've lived here all my life I've seen it all... ♪ 935 00:47:49,866 --> 00:47:51,243 JASON: Stay here, Beans. 936 00:47:52,202 --> 00:47:53,453 This is my life. 937 00:47:57,499 --> 00:47:59,209 What I do now for a living is 938 00:47:59,293 --> 00:48:01,670 I run expedited freight across country. 939 00:48:02,921 --> 00:48:04,673 It's hard to live with a dog in a van, 940 00:48:04,756 --> 00:48:06,758 and it's hard to live without a dog in a van. 941 00:48:08,260 --> 00:48:09,845 I've gotten rid of all my property. 942 00:48:09,928 --> 00:48:12,472 I don't live in a house, I don't pay for rents. 943 00:48:12,556 --> 00:48:15,892 Our properties become such a hindrance of freedom. 944 00:48:18,270 --> 00:48:20,522 A lot of the people with money in the community, 945 00:48:20,606 --> 00:48:22,816 they have so much security, they've gotten to a point 946 00:48:22,899 --> 00:48:24,526 where they're really comfortable. 947 00:48:24,610 --> 00:48:29,281 And they feel like everyone can just interact voluntarily. 948 00:48:29,364 --> 00:48:31,783 But if you take away our comfort, our food, 949 00:48:31,867 --> 00:48:34,995 and all that kind of stuff, we're animals. 950 00:48:35,078 --> 00:48:37,372 We will do the worst things to each other. 951 00:48:38,999 --> 00:48:41,126 We have to see the animal side of ourselves 952 00:48:41,209 --> 00:48:43,253 before we advocate for the responsibility 953 00:48:43,337 --> 00:48:45,339 of freedom. 954 00:48:45,422 --> 00:48:48,717 -♪ I know about the beach... ♪ -(WATER BURBLING) 955 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,678 (SEAGULLS SQUAWKING) 956 00:48:51,762 --> 00:48:55,641 ♪ And the roadside hotels... ♪ 957 00:48:57,267 --> 00:48:58,977 LISA: We had created this world 958 00:48:59,061 --> 00:49:02,356 with people that we looked up to that believe in a philosophy, 959 00:49:02,439 --> 00:49:04,316 that wanted to change the world, 960 00:49:04,399 --> 00:49:06,443 but had their lives in shambles. 961 00:49:06,526 --> 00:49:07,861 Had a drug problem. 962 00:49:07,944 --> 00:49:12,282 Had no idea what the hell they were really talking about. 963 00:49:12,366 --> 00:49:13,784 -IRA BELLE: Mama. -LISA: Yes. 964 00:49:13,867 --> 00:49:15,369 IRA BELLE: I need to pee... 965 00:49:15,452 --> 00:49:19,039 ♪ You underestimate The child with you... ♪ 966 00:49:19,122 --> 00:49:21,458 -(BABBLES INDISTINCTLY) -LISA: Even though people are awake 967 00:49:21,541 --> 00:49:23,585 and want to follow their philosophies, 968 00:49:23,669 --> 00:49:27,255 it still doesn't make everything work. Like, you... 969 00:49:27,339 --> 00:49:29,925 You need a lot of personal growth. 970 00:49:30,008 --> 00:49:31,927 Yeah, all right, I'll tell-- Oh, my God. 971 00:49:32,010 --> 00:49:35,597 LISA: Very recently, have I started to set up shop 972 00:49:35,681 --> 00:49:38,517 in the grey area, the nuances of life, 973 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,811 not these blanket belief systems 974 00:49:40,894 --> 00:49:44,940 that only keep you trapped in the right or the wrong. 975 00:49:45,023 --> 00:49:46,191 (WIND WHISTLING) 976 00:49:46,274 --> 00:49:48,860 LISA: Like, it's either anarchy or nothing. 977 00:49:48,944 --> 00:49:54,199 That is such a bullshit, baby belief system. 978 00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:57,035 ♪ I'm not scared ♪ 979 00:49:57,119 --> 00:50:00,956 ♪ I'm not scared... ♪ 980 00:50:02,165 --> 00:50:03,166 LILY: At this point, 981 00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:06,086 I don't care what anybody else does. 982 00:50:06,169 --> 00:50:08,380 And I just care if people are good people. 983 00:50:08,463 --> 00:50:11,049 So, I have a lot of friends that I've connected with 984 00:50:11,133 --> 00:50:13,677 from home that are what I would consider 985 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,262 statist as fuck. 986 00:50:16,555 --> 00:50:20,767 But I also know that they're on their own life path 987 00:50:20,851 --> 00:50:24,563 and, you know, I've got nothing but love and respect for that. 988 00:50:26,481 --> 00:50:27,774 I just want to be left alone, 989 00:50:27,858 --> 00:50:30,610 like a state can exist if it's gonna leave me alone. 990 00:50:30,694 --> 00:50:32,654 (LAUGHS) You know, like... 991 00:50:35,449 --> 00:50:37,075 ♪ (SONG FADES) ♪ 992 00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:39,411 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 993 00:50:39,494 --> 00:50:41,079 JEFF: Yeah, some people will be watching this 994 00:50:41,163 --> 00:50:42,414 and laughing, going, "Ah, I told you, 995 00:50:42,497 --> 00:50:44,791 that's what anarchy is, you know, it's crazy." 996 00:50:44,875 --> 00:50:46,126 Well, yeah, life is crazy. 997 00:50:46,209 --> 00:50:48,128 There's a lot of crazy individuals out there, 998 00:50:48,211 --> 00:50:49,546 and someone might get killed. 999 00:50:49,629 --> 00:50:51,089 Well, that's what happens every day, 1000 00:50:51,173 --> 00:50:52,340 in every place on Earth. 1001 00:50:52,424 --> 00:50:53,967 (SEAGULLS CAWING) 1002 00:50:54,050 --> 00:50:56,636 JEFF: But, you know, one thing that I've learnt 1003 00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:59,347 is, as bad as the world is... 1004 00:51:00,807 --> 00:51:04,644 you can kind of just ignore it, really, and work on yourself. 1005 00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:06,480 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 1006 00:51:07,856 --> 00:51:10,442 JEFF: There's quite a few people who came here, 1007 00:51:10,525 --> 00:51:13,069 people who were just damaged... 1008 00:51:13,153 --> 00:51:17,157 you know, just because they didn't fit in, in society. 1009 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:20,118 But they kind of felt like they had a bit of a... 1010 00:51:23,789 --> 00:51:24,956 bit of a community. 1011 00:51:27,459 --> 00:51:29,419 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC FADES) ♪ 1012 00:51:29,503 --> 00:51:31,421 I don't know why that makes me emotional. 1013 00:51:38,595 --> 00:51:42,140 ♪ (TRANQUIL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1014 00:51:47,521 --> 00:51:53,235 ♪ Oh, see you later ♪ 1015 00:51:55,904 --> 00:52:01,368 ♪ Oh, this is not the end ♪ 1016 00:52:04,830 --> 00:52:10,752 ♪ Oh, do me a favor ♪ 1017 00:52:13,421 --> 00:52:17,050 ♪ Tell me this is just ♪ 1018 00:52:17,801 --> 00:52:20,887 ♪ Tell me this is just ♪ 1019 00:52:22,180 --> 00:52:29,145 ♪ Tell me this is just ♪ 1020 00:52:48,415 --> 00:52:54,838 ♪ Everything, everything Is tied to you ♪ 1021 00:52:56,882 --> 00:53:03,221 ♪ I don't know, I don't know What I'm gonna do ♪ 1022 00:53:05,265 --> 00:53:07,726 ♪ Do you ever think ♪ 1023 00:53:07,809 --> 00:53:12,147 ♪ That everything That you receive ♪ 1024 00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:14,399 ♪ Is simply ♪ 1025 00:53:14,482 --> 00:53:19,696 ♪ You seeing yourself In the mirror ♪ 1026 00:53:24,242 --> 00:53:25,785 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪