1 00:00:01,483 --> 00:00:04,363 (audio crackling) 2 00:00:04,443 --> 00:00:07,043 (somber music) 3 00:00:11,923 --> 00:00:14,403 - My first venture into the industry 4 00:00:14,483 --> 00:00:16,483 was really, really challenging. 5 00:00:17,683 --> 00:00:21,963 So much happened before I turned 18. 6 00:00:23,003 --> 00:00:27,843 So much had already happened before my career skyrocketed. 7 00:00:29,283 --> 00:00:30,043 (camera shutter clicking) 8 00:00:30,123 --> 00:00:32,483 - [Anthony] Discovering a new model felt like 9 00:00:32,563 --> 00:00:35,163 inviting somebody into the VIP section 10 00:00:35,243 --> 00:00:37,843 of a really exciting world. 11 00:00:37,923 --> 00:00:39,683 - [Roberto] Young girls coming from all over the world 12 00:00:39,763 --> 00:00:42,483 had this fantasy and dream of being models. 13 00:00:43,643 --> 00:00:48,003 - [Marie] To be a model was to be part of the most popular, 14 00:00:48,083 --> 00:00:50,723 influential party around. 15 00:00:50,803 --> 00:00:54,843 (man talks indistinctly) 16 00:00:54,923 --> 00:00:58,483 But there's the ideal, and then there's the reality. 17 00:00:58,563 --> 00:01:00,083 - [Roberto] There's a dark underbelly 18 00:01:00,163 --> 00:01:02,683 that a lot of people don't know about. 19 00:01:02,763 --> 00:01:06,243 - This industry has protected known sex offenders. 20 00:01:06,323 --> 00:01:09,043 (ominous music) 21 00:01:09,123 --> 00:01:12,403 It took me more than 30 years to get to this point 22 00:01:12,483 --> 00:01:15,403 where I am finally willing and able to recognise 23 00:01:15,483 --> 00:01:18,763 and name what it is that took place. 24 00:01:18,843 --> 00:01:21,283 - I was 15, and he was 42. 25 00:01:21,363 --> 00:01:23,683 It was predatory behaviour. 26 00:01:24,563 --> 00:01:27,563 - If you didn't play along with his sexual fantasies, 27 00:01:27,643 --> 00:01:29,643 he'd make sure you don't work anymore. 28 00:01:30,483 --> 00:01:33,043 - [Michael] These men were perfecting a system 29 00:01:33,123 --> 00:01:34,043 that had been developed 30 00:01:34,123 --> 00:01:36,003 over the course of decades. 31 00:01:36,083 --> 00:01:37,323 - It's an abuse of power. 32 00:01:37,403 --> 00:01:39,923 And people who worked in the agencies 33 00:01:40,003 --> 00:01:42,203 were turning a blind eye to it. 34 00:01:43,443 --> 00:01:44,523 - We have been groomed. 35 00:01:44,603 --> 00:01:46,603 We have been conditioned. 36 00:01:47,043 --> 00:01:48,163 And it's out there. 37 00:01:48,243 --> 00:01:50,083 It's not anything that's hidden. 38 00:01:50,163 --> 00:01:51,763 Totally blatant. 39 00:01:51,843 --> 00:01:54,603 (dramatic music) 40 00:01:57,803 --> 00:02:00,483 (clock ticking) 41 00:02:03,163 --> 00:02:06,363 (upbeat music) 42 00:02:06,443 --> 00:02:09,203 (train chugging) 43 00:02:11,763 --> 00:02:15,323 (camera shutters clicking) 44 00:02:16,483 --> 00:02:20,203 - [Maya] Supermodels were like super gods. 45 00:02:20,283 --> 00:02:22,963 Being a model was a chance to enter 46 00:02:23,043 --> 00:02:28,043 that realm of possibilities, fame, and glamour, and success. 47 00:02:30,523 --> 00:02:32,323 (man talking indistinctly) 48 00:02:32,403 --> 00:02:33,803 - I always loved fashion. 49 00:02:33,883 --> 00:02:36,803 I got sucked in by the glamour. 50 00:02:36,883 --> 00:02:39,643 In the '90s, young girls and their families 51 00:02:39,723 --> 00:02:43,683 started to realise that, hey, this is a legit industry. 52 00:02:43,763 --> 00:02:46,443 There's money to be made and travel to be had. 53 00:02:48,003 --> 00:02:50,283 (picture clicks) 54 00:02:50,363 --> 00:02:54,803 When I was 13, 14, that was when the whole supermodel era 55 00:02:54,883 --> 00:02:56,883 was breaking out. 56 00:02:57,843 --> 00:03:00,523 The modelling industry presented an opportunity for me 57 00:03:00,603 --> 00:03:03,443 to kind of carve out a unique identity 58 00:03:03,523 --> 00:03:08,163 and break away from this sort of, like, small town monotony. 59 00:03:09,003 --> 00:03:12,923 ("Grove Is In The Heart") 60 00:03:13,003 --> 00:03:16,603 ♪ Groove is in the heart ♪ 61 00:03:16,683 --> 00:03:19,323 ♪ Groove is in the heart ♪ 62 00:03:19,403 --> 00:03:21,403 - You hear that? 63 00:03:21,843 --> 00:03:24,043 - The moment that the supermodels were invented 64 00:03:24,123 --> 00:03:27,523 was when some very smart people in the fashion industry 65 00:03:27,603 --> 00:03:31,003 realised that they could keep the attention of the press 66 00:03:31,083 --> 00:03:33,643 and the public by turning models into stars. 67 00:03:34,843 --> 00:03:38,403 The primary ones were Christy Turlington, Naomi Campbell, 68 00:03:38,483 --> 00:03:39,963 and Linda Evangelista. 69 00:03:40,043 --> 00:03:43,443 And then you had Claudia Schiffer, Cindy Crawford. 70 00:03:43,523 --> 00:03:45,523 The list goes on. 71 00:03:45,603 --> 00:03:47,683 - My mother wanted me to be a model, 72 00:03:47,763 --> 00:03:50,443 so she sent my pictures to New York. 73 00:03:50,523 --> 00:03:53,443 They called me up, and I came to New York and tested, 74 00:03:53,523 --> 00:03:55,563 and that's how it went. 75 00:03:56,883 --> 00:03:59,003 - Our mission, as dream merchants, 76 00:03:59,083 --> 00:04:00,283 we are selling perfection. 77 00:04:00,363 --> 00:04:05,563 We are selling some models who are dream people. 78 00:04:05,643 --> 00:04:08,803 - Elite was the most successful model agency. 79 00:04:08,883 --> 00:04:11,003 It was just very exciting. 80 00:04:11,083 --> 00:04:14,683 The agency had been founded by John Casablancas, 81 00:04:14,763 --> 00:04:18,203 this Spanish playboy educated in Switzerland. 82 00:04:20,283 --> 00:04:22,803 - Meeting John Casablancas in person 83 00:04:22,883 --> 00:04:25,843 was like meeting a rock star. 84 00:04:25,923 --> 00:04:28,643 And it was amazing to watch how women 85 00:04:28,723 --> 00:04:32,803 would just be completely consumed by his energy. 86 00:04:32,883 --> 00:04:35,643 And it didn't matter what age they were, 87 00:04:35,723 --> 00:04:37,723 they were consumed. 88 00:04:39,763 --> 00:04:44,763 Elite was such a wonderful brand, full of amazing models, 89 00:04:45,083 --> 00:04:47,083 and I wanted to be a part of that. 90 00:04:49,443 --> 00:04:53,683 I had been a client before I became an agent for Elite. 91 00:04:53,763 --> 00:04:56,563 And I discovered Cindy Crawford. 92 00:04:56,643 --> 00:04:59,523 She was 16 years old, in high school. 93 00:05:01,643 --> 00:05:06,043 John turned models into big celebrities, 94 00:05:06,123 --> 00:05:10,203 which made them more money and the agency more money. 95 00:05:29,923 --> 00:05:31,683 - You weren't gonna give me one, really, were you? 96 00:05:31,763 --> 00:05:32,523 (laughs) 97 00:05:32,603 --> 00:05:33,363 - That's why I ordered two. 98 00:05:33,443 --> 00:05:34,563 - You did? - Yeah. 99 00:05:34,643 --> 00:05:35,403 I'm gonna have one here in my office. 100 00:05:35,483 --> 00:05:37,003 - Thank you very much. 101 00:05:37,083 --> 00:05:41,643 - By John Casablancas becoming such a household name, 102 00:05:41,723 --> 00:05:46,203 it gave a more accessible opportunity 103 00:05:46,283 --> 00:05:50,803 for any pretty young woman to become a model. 104 00:05:50,883 --> 00:05:55,883 (somber music) (picture clicks) 105 00:05:59,923 --> 00:06:02,723 - I think my hair was short before 106 00:06:02,803 --> 00:06:05,243 because I think it was one of these, like, punk moves I did, 107 00:06:05,323 --> 00:06:07,323 of shaving my head. 108 00:06:07,643 --> 00:06:10,443 And clearly, they're trying to do the best they can 109 00:06:10,523 --> 00:06:12,403 to work with. 110 00:06:12,483 --> 00:06:14,643 Oh, yeah, and then RoC campaign. 111 00:06:14,723 --> 00:06:17,403 An old ad campaign for RoC. 112 00:06:17,483 --> 00:06:20,963 Yeah, baby, baby, baby face. 113 00:06:21,043 --> 00:06:23,723 (pensive music) 114 00:06:28,523 --> 00:06:32,963 When I left school, I was just 16. 115 00:06:34,163 --> 00:06:35,203 My options were small. 116 00:06:35,283 --> 00:06:37,203 I wasn't gonna go to university. 117 00:06:37,283 --> 00:06:38,563 I was dyslexic. 118 00:06:38,643 --> 00:06:40,643 I couldn't really get a job. 119 00:06:40,723 --> 00:06:43,723 And I was in a really bad apartment 120 00:06:43,803 --> 00:06:46,243 in a really bad area of San Francisco. 121 00:06:46,323 --> 00:06:50,403 The boyfriend that I had was abusive. 122 00:06:51,363 --> 00:06:54,003 It became clear to me as I viewed the world 123 00:06:54,083 --> 00:06:57,323 from that perspective that I had two options 124 00:06:57,403 --> 00:06:58,843 as a young woman. 125 00:06:58,923 --> 00:07:01,803 One was prostitution, and the other was modelling. 126 00:07:02,883 --> 00:07:07,883 So I found a scout that had connections to John Casablancas. 127 00:07:08,283 --> 00:07:13,283 And my photograph was actually faxed to Elite headquarters, 128 00:07:13,683 --> 00:07:17,363 and John agreed to take me. 129 00:07:17,443 --> 00:07:20,643 (upbeat groovy music) 130 00:07:23,523 --> 00:07:27,243 Next thing I know, I was on a one-way ticket to New York. 131 00:07:27,323 --> 00:07:29,323 I'd never been to New York. 132 00:07:29,763 --> 00:07:31,003 ♪ Aha ha ha ha ♪ 133 00:07:31,083 --> 00:07:32,763 ♪ It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder ♪ 134 00:07:32,843 --> 00:07:34,363 ♪ How I keep from going under ♪ 135 00:07:34,443 --> 00:07:37,163 - It was overwhelming, and yet, 136 00:07:37,243 --> 00:07:39,443 it was a ticket to somewhere. 137 00:07:42,163 --> 00:07:44,803 I might have had 20 bucks in my pocket. 138 00:07:48,563 --> 00:07:52,763 When I first came onto the scene, there was this idea that, 139 00:07:52,843 --> 00:07:55,923 if you got signed with Elite, you were gonna make it. 140 00:07:56,003 --> 00:07:58,203 So there was so much promise. 141 00:07:59,643 --> 00:08:03,883 - Everything that John Casablancas did, and Elite, 142 00:08:03,963 --> 00:08:07,723 it was always kind of pushing things a little further 143 00:08:07,803 --> 00:08:09,403 and a little further. 144 00:08:09,483 --> 00:08:13,763 He took the concept of being sensual 145 00:08:13,843 --> 00:08:17,043 and transformed it into being sexual. 146 00:08:18,123 --> 00:08:20,123 - [Man] Come here! 147 00:08:21,043 --> 00:08:22,923 (man shouts indistinctly) 148 00:08:23,003 --> 00:08:25,003 Awoo! 149 00:08:25,603 --> 00:08:30,603 - I was present as fashion became world-class entertainment. 150 00:08:31,563 --> 00:08:32,443 And at the end of that, 151 00:08:32,523 --> 00:08:35,163 I wanted to write a book about the modelling industry. 152 00:08:36,563 --> 00:08:38,443 My job, when I was doing that, 153 00:08:38,523 --> 00:08:41,763 was to find out the background of all of these people. 154 00:08:41,843 --> 00:08:43,403 (lock clicks) 155 00:08:43,483 --> 00:08:46,123 (pensive music) 156 00:08:50,563 --> 00:08:52,763 No one has ever listened to these tapes, 157 00:08:52,843 --> 00:08:55,443 and I haven't even heard them since 1994. 158 00:08:56,883 --> 00:09:00,243 I recall that I had four or five interview sessions 159 00:09:00,323 --> 00:09:01,603 with John Casablancas. 160 00:09:01,683 --> 00:09:04,923 Here's the one that says "Casablancas number one." 161 00:09:22,803 --> 00:09:25,123 - [Michael] He thought he was the king. 162 00:09:25,203 --> 00:09:27,483 And he was the king. 163 00:09:30,003 --> 00:09:34,043 - John discovered me in a hotel in Toronto. 164 00:09:34,123 --> 00:09:36,323 He said, "Do you have a modelling agent?" 165 00:09:36,403 --> 00:09:39,083 And I said, "Well, I'm with someone in Toronto." 166 00:09:39,163 --> 00:09:42,283 And he said, "Okay, well, please take my card 167 00:09:42,363 --> 00:09:44,363 and tell him to call me." 168 00:09:45,563 --> 00:09:48,283 When the opportunity came up to model internationally, 169 00:09:48,363 --> 00:09:49,683 obviously, I wanted to take it 170 00:09:49,763 --> 00:09:52,843 because I always loved fashion. 171 00:09:52,923 --> 00:09:54,203 I would come home from school. 172 00:09:54,283 --> 00:09:55,483 I'd watch music videos. 173 00:09:55,563 --> 00:09:58,603 I would watch fashion television. 174 00:09:58,683 --> 00:10:01,883 My mom always had "Vogue" magazines around the house 175 00:10:01,963 --> 00:10:05,483 with some of Cindy Crawford's first covers. 176 00:10:05,563 --> 00:10:06,963 I was always just kind of, 177 00:10:07,043 --> 00:10:09,363 you know, poring through these magazines. 178 00:10:11,243 --> 00:10:14,363 - Shawna and I bonded over ambition. 179 00:10:14,443 --> 00:10:18,203 We very much wanted to get out of our small town. 180 00:10:18,283 --> 00:10:22,403 - Anthony was my best male friend at the time. 181 00:10:22,483 --> 00:10:24,283 We were very close. 182 00:10:24,363 --> 00:10:28,683 He was also a model with the agent that I was with, 183 00:10:28,763 --> 00:10:32,403 and he went on to be a model scout himself. 184 00:10:32,483 --> 00:10:34,763 - Shawna was brought in when she was about 14, 185 00:10:34,843 --> 00:10:36,963 and I must have been 16 at the time, 186 00:10:37,043 --> 00:10:40,323 and she was deemed the success story. 187 00:10:40,403 --> 00:10:41,403 Everybody wanted her. 188 00:10:41,483 --> 00:10:44,403 We had agents flying in from all over the world. 189 00:10:45,923 --> 00:10:47,723 - I just thought, this is an opportunity 190 00:10:47,803 --> 00:10:49,483 that's too good to pass up. 191 00:10:49,563 --> 00:10:51,563 I'm just gonna take it. 192 00:10:51,883 --> 00:10:55,043 (bright techno music) 193 00:10:57,363 --> 00:11:00,443 The next focus was go to New York and participate 194 00:11:00,523 --> 00:11:02,523 in the Look of the Year contest. 195 00:11:05,123 --> 00:11:05,923 The Look of the Year was probably 196 00:11:06,003 --> 00:11:08,483 one of the first reality TV shows. 197 00:11:09,483 --> 00:11:11,083 I think it was really exciting for people to watch 198 00:11:11,163 --> 00:11:13,283 from home, and get a peak into the industry, 199 00:11:13,363 --> 00:11:17,163 and see what it was like for young girls starting out. 200 00:11:19,003 --> 00:11:20,563 - [Woman] With every pin and curl 201 00:11:20,643 --> 00:11:23,683 63 of the world's hottest models are hoping to transform 202 00:11:23,763 --> 00:11:25,763 their good looks into winning looks 203 00:11:25,843 --> 00:11:29,163 and be crowned Look of the Year 1992. 204 00:11:29,243 --> 00:11:30,683 The fairest of them all walks away 205 00:11:30,763 --> 00:11:34,683 with a $150,000 Elite modelling contract. 206 00:11:36,763 --> 00:11:40,363 - I was one of four American scouts 207 00:11:40,443 --> 00:11:43,003 for the Look of the Year competition 208 00:11:43,083 --> 00:11:46,083 when I was the vice president of Elite Chicago. 209 00:11:47,203 --> 00:11:50,763 Being a part of the contest meant you were that much closer 210 00:11:50,843 --> 00:11:53,323 to being taken seriously as a model, 211 00:11:53,403 --> 00:11:55,803 that much closer to making hundreds 212 00:11:55,883 --> 00:11:58,003 of thousands of dollars a year, 213 00:11:58,083 --> 00:12:01,243 to be able to hang out with rock stars. 214 00:12:02,483 --> 00:12:05,883 But there's the ideal, and then there's the reality. 215 00:12:07,083 --> 00:12:10,043 - The truth of the matter is John Casablancas 216 00:12:10,123 --> 00:12:13,123 pushed the industry over the edge 217 00:12:13,203 --> 00:12:17,563 with the sexualization and objectification of kids. 218 00:12:17,643 --> 00:12:20,123 (tense music) 219 00:12:23,443 --> 00:12:26,643 (upbeat groovy music) 220 00:12:28,603 --> 00:12:30,363 - It was lovely to meet all of these girls 221 00:12:30,443 --> 00:12:32,443 from different countries. 222 00:12:33,083 --> 00:12:38,163 But it was very surprising how young many of the girls were. 223 00:12:38,243 --> 00:12:41,043 I think the youngest ones were 14. 224 00:12:41,123 --> 00:12:44,003 (upbeat groovy music) 225 00:12:44,083 --> 00:12:48,723 - As an Israeli girl, little, young girl from a small town, 226 00:12:48,803 --> 00:12:53,003 to represent Israel in a contest, is very prestigious. 227 00:12:53,083 --> 00:12:56,083 (audience applauds) 228 00:12:58,563 --> 00:13:00,563 - I think I was lucky that I did have 229 00:13:00,643 --> 00:13:03,403 a little bit of modelling experience in Canada. 230 00:13:03,483 --> 00:13:05,123 You know, I was a little more comfortable 231 00:13:05,203 --> 00:13:06,443 in front of the camera than, 232 00:13:06,523 --> 00:13:08,083 you know, maybe some of the other girls. 233 00:13:08,163 --> 00:13:09,763 But, I mean, I was a ball of nerves. 234 00:13:09,843 --> 00:13:12,323 I think I was just good at hiding it. 235 00:13:12,403 --> 00:13:13,523 (chuckles) 236 00:13:13,603 --> 00:13:14,363 (clock ticking) 237 00:13:14,443 --> 00:13:17,323 - All of these young girls were competing, Shawna's 15. 238 00:13:17,403 --> 00:13:20,923 Most of the girls are a little bit older, like 16, 17, 239 00:13:21,003 --> 00:13:22,483 a little bit older, it's so ridiculous. 240 00:13:22,563 --> 00:13:26,963 You lose perspective on age in this industry. 241 00:13:27,043 --> 00:13:29,723 - Do something a little more modern with the cut? 242 00:13:29,803 --> 00:13:30,683 You're what, 14? 243 00:13:30,763 --> 00:13:32,283 (faint voices talking) 244 00:13:32,363 --> 00:13:35,723 - It's so important to understand that these girls 245 00:13:35,803 --> 00:13:37,243 are still children. 246 00:13:37,323 --> 00:13:38,643 They don't look like children, 247 00:13:38,723 --> 00:13:41,403 and once you get them all dressed up, they look incredible, 248 00:13:41,483 --> 00:13:44,363 they look like they're ready to work, but they're not. 249 00:13:44,443 --> 00:13:46,443 - It's like a Botticelli. 250 00:13:47,123 --> 00:13:50,803 Uh-huh, it's super. - Beautiful, beautiful. 251 00:13:50,883 --> 00:13:52,963 - I met Johnny at one of the fashion shows, 252 00:13:53,043 --> 00:13:54,403 and we hit it off. 253 00:13:54,483 --> 00:13:56,323 He asked me, said, "I have a new thing coming up 254 00:13:56,403 --> 00:13:57,803 that I want to do. 255 00:13:57,883 --> 00:13:58,643 It's called Look of the Year, 256 00:13:58,723 --> 00:14:01,043 and I would love for you to work for us, you know, shoot." 257 00:14:02,763 --> 00:14:04,403 I had no idea what I was about to witness 258 00:14:04,483 --> 00:14:06,363 when I started shooting this project. 259 00:14:06,443 --> 00:14:08,123 And as I got into it, I saw, you know, 260 00:14:08,203 --> 00:14:10,483 a little bit of something going on here. 261 00:14:13,723 --> 00:14:16,723 - The swim around was one of my least comfortable scenarios 262 00:14:16,803 --> 00:14:18,083 within the competition. 263 00:14:18,163 --> 00:14:19,523 It was almost like everybody's a robot, 264 00:14:19,603 --> 00:14:22,363 and we just do what you say and, like, have sexy poses. 265 00:14:22,443 --> 00:14:24,123 I mean, that's not really something that we should be doing 266 00:14:24,203 --> 00:14:26,203 in front of a bunch of grown men. 267 00:14:26,843 --> 00:14:29,563 (pensive music) 268 00:14:29,643 --> 00:14:31,843 - You're just at an age where you're very impressionable, 269 00:14:31,923 --> 00:14:33,643 and they say "jump," and you say, "How high?" 270 00:14:33,723 --> 00:14:36,403 You're like, okay, I'm jumping through these hoops 271 00:14:36,483 --> 00:14:40,003 because I was really concerned for my career 272 00:14:40,083 --> 00:14:42,443 and my future in the industry. 273 00:14:45,523 --> 00:14:48,003 - I had prepared thoroughly for a long meeting 274 00:14:48,083 --> 00:14:51,683 with Donald Trump to explain to him why this was gonna be 275 00:14:51,763 --> 00:14:53,603 a very big success. 276 00:14:53,683 --> 00:14:56,203 In fact, I hadn't finished my third sentence. 277 00:14:56,283 --> 00:14:58,283 He said, "I love the idea. Let's do it." 278 00:14:59,843 --> 00:15:04,603 - I recall John inviting very powerful businessmen 279 00:15:04,683 --> 00:15:08,883 to be a part of the judging panels. 280 00:15:08,963 --> 00:15:10,443 He just thought it was good business 281 00:15:10,523 --> 00:15:12,483 to bring in very wealthy men 282 00:15:12,563 --> 00:15:14,283 around very young, beautiful women. 283 00:15:14,363 --> 00:15:18,323 - [John] Mr. Donald Trump. (audience applauds) 284 00:15:18,403 --> 00:15:20,363 - Donald Trump was a judge. 285 00:15:20,443 --> 00:15:22,963 I don't understand why he was there in terms of context 286 00:15:23,043 --> 00:15:25,443 of a fashion show. 287 00:15:25,523 --> 00:15:27,363 How could he judge it? 288 00:15:27,443 --> 00:15:29,523 (audience applauds) 289 00:15:29,603 --> 00:15:33,203 - Thank you, and now it's time for the swimsuit competition. 290 00:15:33,283 --> 00:15:35,283 - Let's get on with it. 291 00:15:35,363 --> 00:15:40,363 (audience applauding) (pensive music) 292 00:15:42,923 --> 00:15:46,243 - Young girls would get this opportunity to have a fabulous 293 00:15:46,323 --> 00:15:48,083 and lucrative career. 294 00:15:48,163 --> 00:15:50,323 We got the chance to win a prize 295 00:15:50,403 --> 00:15:53,763 of $150,000 contract with Elite. 296 00:15:55,843 --> 00:15:58,563 - Because I was 16 at the time, 297 00:15:58,643 --> 00:16:03,003 and I had an opportunity to enter the modelling world, 298 00:16:03,083 --> 00:16:07,603 and the most successful agency in the world, 299 00:16:07,683 --> 00:16:10,083 there's a lot of pressure to do the right thing. 300 00:16:12,163 --> 00:16:13,803 - These girls want this so bad. 301 00:16:13,883 --> 00:16:16,403 You've come this way from whatever little small town 302 00:16:16,483 --> 00:16:18,523 you were from, and now you're in the big city, 303 00:16:18,603 --> 00:16:21,643 and you're going to try to win this thing. 304 00:16:21,723 --> 00:16:26,403 And the way to win is to say yes, basically, 305 00:16:26,483 --> 00:16:28,483 to any offer that comes your way. 306 00:16:29,083 --> 00:16:31,243 If you say no, you might blow your chances. 307 00:16:32,163 --> 00:16:35,123 - The judges, most of them were men. 308 00:16:35,203 --> 00:16:39,883 You weren't sure about the purposes of many of the events. 309 00:16:39,963 --> 00:16:42,763 You sort of had the feeling that these were just meant 310 00:16:42,843 --> 00:16:46,843 to prolong the period of time that these men have, 311 00:16:46,923 --> 00:16:49,083 you know, to glare at you. 312 00:16:50,083 --> 00:16:55,083 And then there was this one judge used to have the habit 313 00:16:55,443 --> 00:16:59,163 of walking into the fitting room unnoticed 314 00:16:59,243 --> 00:17:01,163 when we were changing clothes. 315 00:17:01,243 --> 00:17:04,443 But that was only the, sort of the surface of it. 316 00:17:05,363 --> 00:17:07,403 (tense music) 317 00:17:07,483 --> 00:17:09,323 - [Roberto] Both events, '91, '92, 318 00:17:09,403 --> 00:17:11,403 there was a party on the Spirit of New York, 319 00:17:11,483 --> 00:17:13,123 which is a charter boat. 320 00:17:13,203 --> 00:17:14,683 - The night before the final, 321 00:17:14,763 --> 00:17:17,003 we were told there was a big party on this yacht, 322 00:17:17,083 --> 00:17:19,683 and we were very excited about that. 323 00:17:19,763 --> 00:17:23,363 That felt more like a party, mingling, and then suddenly, 324 00:17:23,443 --> 00:17:24,923 all the girls were lined up, 325 00:17:25,003 --> 00:17:27,643 and they were made to parade through the boat 326 00:17:27,723 --> 00:17:29,403 in front of the judges. 327 00:17:29,483 --> 00:17:32,123 - Pose for the camera! - No kissing though. 328 00:17:32,203 --> 00:17:34,243 - It felt like it was sprung on us. 329 00:17:34,323 --> 00:17:35,923 I'm sure they had orchestrated it, 330 00:17:36,003 --> 00:17:37,603 but I don't know that they told the girls 331 00:17:37,683 --> 00:17:39,483 that they were gonna be doing that. 332 00:17:39,563 --> 00:17:40,963 - One of the women from the agency said, 333 00:17:41,043 --> 00:17:42,003 "You look really good. 334 00:17:42,083 --> 00:17:44,963 Just take off your jacket, and, you know, 335 00:17:45,043 --> 00:17:47,523 we're gonna have some girls go walk down the stairs 336 00:17:47,603 --> 00:17:51,723 one at a time and dance in front of John Casablancas." 337 00:17:53,283 --> 00:17:54,563 I remember standing at the top of the stairs 338 00:17:54,643 --> 00:17:55,843 and watching the girl before me, 339 00:17:55,923 --> 00:17:58,003 and she was doing this booty dance, and I was kind of like, 340 00:17:58,083 --> 00:17:58,843 "Oh god, no." 341 00:17:58,923 --> 00:18:00,763 I am not going to the bottom of the stairs and doing, 342 00:18:00,843 --> 00:18:04,523 like, a bump and grind dance in front of these guys. 343 00:18:05,403 --> 00:18:08,083 (pensive music) 344 00:18:10,283 --> 00:18:12,083 I realised that I was in a competition, 345 00:18:12,163 --> 00:18:14,443 and obviously, I needed to do something. 346 00:18:14,523 --> 00:18:16,363 I just kind of went down the stairs, 347 00:18:16,443 --> 00:18:19,123 and, you know, I had this dress with a full skirt, 348 00:18:19,203 --> 00:18:23,083 and I spun around and blew them a kiss, and then walked off. 349 00:18:26,563 --> 00:18:29,803 Yeah, I just thought it was a little classier. 350 00:18:32,163 --> 00:18:36,043 I hated the whole process, being cattle herded around. 351 00:18:36,123 --> 00:18:39,723 I don't wanna parade around in Donald Trump's hotel. 352 00:18:39,803 --> 00:18:40,963 But I kind of just was like, 353 00:18:41,043 --> 00:18:43,243 you know, if this is what they tell me to do, 354 00:18:43,323 --> 00:18:44,923 if this is how I'm getting my foot in the door, 355 00:18:45,003 --> 00:18:48,683 then I'll do it, 'cause I wanted to travel and work. 356 00:18:48,763 --> 00:18:51,523 ("Sweet Dreams") 357 00:18:52,923 --> 00:18:56,163 ♪ Sweet dreams are made of this ♪ 358 00:18:56,243 --> 00:18:59,683 ♪ Who am I to disagree ♪ 359 00:18:59,763 --> 00:19:01,683 - The culmination of the entire week 360 00:19:01,763 --> 00:19:03,403 that these girls have been through 361 00:19:03,483 --> 00:19:06,043 ended up at this grand party. 362 00:19:06,123 --> 00:19:08,603 Everybody got loose and crazy. 363 00:19:08,683 --> 00:19:11,003 And there were no chaperones. 364 00:19:11,083 --> 00:19:12,123 ♪ Hey ♪ 365 00:19:12,203 --> 00:19:13,803 - The parties were the payback 366 00:19:13,883 --> 00:19:18,603 for all of these so-called investors or friends. 367 00:19:20,803 --> 00:19:22,003 ♪ Oh oh oh ♪ 368 00:19:22,083 --> 00:19:23,403 ♪ Oh oh ♪ 369 00:19:23,483 --> 00:19:26,483 - I've been to contests before, but there, it was different. 370 00:19:26,563 --> 00:19:29,923 The energy was very much in the air. 371 00:19:30,003 --> 00:19:32,083 Sexual energy everywhere. 372 00:19:32,963 --> 00:19:37,043 ♪ Everybody's looking for something ♪ 373 00:19:37,123 --> 00:19:40,683 (muffled tense music) 374 00:19:40,763 --> 00:19:43,203 - Liquor flowed quite liberally. 375 00:19:44,323 --> 00:19:45,643 Inhibitions were gone. 376 00:19:45,723 --> 00:19:48,603 And the guests were friends of Johnny's. 377 00:19:48,683 --> 00:19:50,083 We laughed at some of these guys. 378 00:19:50,163 --> 00:19:51,883 You know, to us, they were clowns. 379 00:19:51,963 --> 00:19:55,043 They were idiots chasing young girls. 380 00:19:57,683 --> 00:19:59,763 I haven't spoken about this before, 381 00:19:59,843 --> 00:20:02,523 because it took a while to process, 382 00:20:02,603 --> 00:20:04,403 but since our culture has changed so much, 383 00:20:04,483 --> 00:20:06,403 I realise that this is the back story 384 00:20:06,483 --> 00:20:08,483 that a lot of people don't know about. 385 00:20:11,763 --> 00:20:12,603 - [Man] Can you get some beautiful women 386 00:20:12,683 --> 00:20:13,443 around here, please? 387 00:20:13,523 --> 00:20:15,523 Because I'm sick and tired of these two. 388 00:20:17,483 --> 00:20:19,803 - The Look of the Year contest became 389 00:20:19,883 --> 00:20:23,523 a kind of fishing hole for some of the executives of Elite. 390 00:20:23,603 --> 00:20:28,803 It was a place where they singled out both girls 391 00:20:28,883 --> 00:20:32,203 who were vulnerable and might be sexually available 392 00:20:32,283 --> 00:20:35,723 and girls who had powerful attributes 393 00:20:35,803 --> 00:20:37,843 that might become very successful. 394 00:20:38,883 --> 00:20:43,243 - Initially, everything was very promising and exhilarating, 395 00:20:43,323 --> 00:20:46,243 but gradually, as things unfolded, 396 00:20:46,323 --> 00:20:49,723 you started to get really mixed feelings about older men 397 00:20:49,803 --> 00:20:53,163 that didn't really seem to have any designated role, 398 00:20:54,563 --> 00:20:57,003 other than to act as they pleased, 399 00:20:57,083 --> 00:21:00,003 almost within a self-proclaimed territory 400 00:21:00,083 --> 00:21:04,163 of choosing victims for sexual harassment and abuse. 401 00:21:04,243 --> 00:21:06,923 (pensive music) 402 00:21:13,043 --> 00:21:14,403 - You have a tough job, right? 403 00:21:14,483 --> 00:21:17,163 You have to spend all your time searching out these young, 404 00:21:17,243 --> 00:21:20,643 sensuous beauties who are going to leave some sort of mark 405 00:21:20,723 --> 00:21:22,043 on the fashion world. 406 00:21:22,123 --> 00:21:26,443 A lot of people would say that wouldn't be a bad job. 407 00:21:26,523 --> 00:21:29,163 - No, I think it's a wonderful job. 408 00:21:29,243 --> 00:21:30,243 It's a wonderful-- 409 00:21:30,323 --> 00:21:31,883 - [Interviewer] Does it ever get tiresome though? 410 00:21:31,963 --> 00:21:33,043 - Never. 411 00:21:33,123 --> 00:21:35,683 - John Casablancas became a celebrity. 412 00:21:35,763 --> 00:21:38,883 He was the rock star of the modelling world. 413 00:21:39,963 --> 00:21:44,163 And what did rock stars do all through the years 414 00:21:44,243 --> 00:21:46,843 when John Casablancas was coming up 415 00:21:46,923 --> 00:21:48,323 in the world of modelling, 416 00:21:48,403 --> 00:21:50,483 rock stars slept with teenage girls, 417 00:21:50,563 --> 00:21:53,683 Casablancas began to have a series of affairs 418 00:21:53,763 --> 00:21:55,403 with teenage girls. 419 00:21:55,483 --> 00:21:58,163 (pensive music) 420 00:22:06,443 --> 00:22:09,803 - It was clear in New York I was not cutting it. 421 00:22:09,883 --> 00:22:12,323 Both John Casablancas and this other woman, 422 00:22:12,403 --> 00:22:14,683 who was the head of the New Faces division, 423 00:22:14,763 --> 00:22:18,763 said to me that I looked too European to make it America, 424 00:22:18,843 --> 00:22:21,963 and so I needed to go see if I had what it took 425 00:22:22,043 --> 00:22:25,243 to go and break into the market in Europe. 426 00:22:26,163 --> 00:22:27,883 (people talking indistinctly) 427 00:22:27,963 --> 00:22:31,963 - I spent eight or nine years going to Europe 428 00:22:32,043 --> 00:22:35,403 to cover fashion shows, living, breathing, eating, 429 00:22:35,483 --> 00:22:37,603 and sleeping in that world. 430 00:22:37,683 --> 00:22:41,963 And the notion was that a trip to Europe 431 00:22:42,043 --> 00:22:46,243 would be a make-or-break test for a want-to-be model. 432 00:22:46,323 --> 00:22:49,323 And Paris was the hottest bowl on the oven. 433 00:22:50,283 --> 00:22:52,883 - Back then, pretty much any agency 434 00:22:52,963 --> 00:22:55,323 would be swapping models back and forth. 435 00:22:57,003 --> 00:23:00,963 - They would usually put models up in models apartments. 436 00:23:01,043 --> 00:23:03,563 I was told that I was gonna go stay 437 00:23:03,643 --> 00:23:08,283 with the boss of Elite Paris, Gerald Marie, 438 00:23:08,363 --> 00:23:09,603 and I was excited. 439 00:23:09,683 --> 00:23:12,523 I thought that that was an amazing opportunity 440 00:23:12,603 --> 00:23:15,163 and that I was potentially a chosen one. 441 00:23:16,043 --> 00:23:20,403 - Gerald Marie was running the Elite Agency in Paris. 442 00:23:20,483 --> 00:23:25,483 He was generally considered to be a really bad guy 443 00:23:25,563 --> 00:23:29,723 by people in Paris who had any sense of decency at all. 444 00:23:30,723 --> 00:23:34,363 And he was also, according to any number of women, 445 00:23:35,203 --> 00:23:37,323 a sexual predator. 446 00:23:37,403 --> 00:23:39,883 (tense ethereal music) 447 00:23:39,963 --> 00:23:43,843 - When I became an agent, I was very naive. 448 00:23:44,963 --> 00:23:50,043 I had this idealistic expectation 449 00:23:50,123 --> 00:23:55,123 that agents were there to advocate for their models 450 00:23:57,003 --> 00:24:00,683 and to protect them from the bogeyman. 451 00:24:00,763 --> 00:24:03,843 I was just in my early 20s myself, 452 00:24:03,923 --> 00:24:06,603 and so I wasn't really old enough or mature enough 453 00:24:06,683 --> 00:24:10,163 to truly understand the significance of what was happening, 454 00:24:10,243 --> 00:24:12,283 but as the years passed, 455 00:24:12,363 --> 00:24:15,243 I started to see how models 456 00:24:15,323 --> 00:24:19,203 were being manipulated and abused. 457 00:24:20,443 --> 00:24:22,763 ("Lullaby") 458 00:24:24,843 --> 00:24:28,163 - When I was told that I was gonna go to France, 459 00:24:28,243 --> 00:24:30,923 it was also said to me that they were going 460 00:24:31,003 --> 00:24:32,563 to pay for everything. 461 00:24:32,643 --> 00:24:34,043 I thought, great. 462 00:24:34,123 --> 00:24:35,403 (laughs) Here's another ticket. 463 00:24:35,483 --> 00:24:37,483 Here's another open door. 464 00:24:38,763 --> 00:24:43,483 ♪ On candy stripe legs the spiderman comes ♪ 465 00:24:43,563 --> 00:24:45,883 ♪ Softly through the shadow of ♪ 466 00:24:45,963 --> 00:24:48,563 - I hadn't traveled outside of the country, 467 00:24:48,643 --> 00:24:52,643 and I was really flying by the seat of my pants. 468 00:24:52,723 --> 00:24:56,443 I was a kid with a scrap of hope 469 00:24:56,523 --> 00:25:01,043 and going to what I saw to be this, like, glamorous, 470 00:25:01,123 --> 00:25:04,443 incredible, new city. 471 00:25:04,523 --> 00:25:05,843 (tense music) 472 00:25:05,923 --> 00:25:07,923 It was like another planet. 473 00:25:08,523 --> 00:25:11,003 The first thing that I noticed was the billboards 474 00:25:11,083 --> 00:25:15,483 had pictures of topless women, young girls. 475 00:25:15,563 --> 00:25:18,203 "Oh, this is how they do it here. 476 00:25:18,283 --> 00:25:20,963 This what they consider to be wholesome." 477 00:25:21,843 --> 00:25:24,883 I mean, it was a completely foreign land. 478 00:25:24,963 --> 00:25:27,003 There was nothing familiar to me. 479 00:25:31,963 --> 00:25:33,683 (elevator creaking) 480 00:25:33,763 --> 00:25:36,443 (ominous music) 481 00:25:37,963 --> 00:25:39,283 - [Automated Female Voice] Deuxieme etage. 482 00:25:39,363 --> 00:25:41,123 (elevator beeps) 483 00:25:41,203 --> 00:25:43,723 (door clicks) 484 00:25:43,803 --> 00:25:45,243 (tense music) 485 00:25:45,323 --> 00:25:48,323 (door creaks) 486 00:25:48,403 --> 00:25:51,283 - When I first arrived at the apartment, 487 00:25:51,363 --> 00:25:54,643 beautiful girl opened the door, 488 00:25:54,723 --> 00:25:56,723 and it was Linda Evangelista. 489 00:25:57,403 --> 00:26:01,363 I didn't know a lot about models and modelling yet. 490 00:26:01,443 --> 00:26:04,483 I did though know about Linda Evangelista. 491 00:26:04,563 --> 00:26:08,803 She was in all the coolest magazines and editorials, 492 00:26:08,883 --> 00:26:13,603 and campaigns, and so beautiful and different-looking. 493 00:26:13,683 --> 00:26:18,203 And she was on the rise and making a big name for herself. 494 00:26:19,163 --> 00:26:21,163 I was immediately intimidated, 495 00:26:21,243 --> 00:26:22,963 and I would later learn 496 00:26:23,043 --> 00:26:25,403 that this was Gerald's then girlfriend. 497 00:26:28,043 --> 00:26:30,283 The apartment itself was incredible. 498 00:26:30,363 --> 00:26:31,563 It was stunning. 499 00:26:31,643 --> 00:26:35,203 High ceilings, very sophisticated furniture. 500 00:26:35,283 --> 00:26:37,723 I had never been in any place like that, 501 00:26:37,803 --> 00:26:39,963 let alone lived in any place like that. 502 00:26:40,963 --> 00:26:44,443 I had no idea this would be the new family 503 00:26:44,523 --> 00:26:47,523 that I was going to be living with in Paris. 504 00:26:49,243 --> 00:26:50,843 - [Interviewer] You must be meeting models 505 00:26:50,923 --> 00:26:53,883 and had been for several years, I imagine. 506 00:26:53,963 --> 00:26:54,843 - That's me. - It's like you're constantly. 507 00:26:54,923 --> 00:26:56,123 What was it about this one, 508 00:26:56,203 --> 00:26:58,243 besides the fact that she's stunning? 509 00:26:58,323 --> 00:27:01,003 - When you meet a lot of beautiful girls all day long, 510 00:27:01,083 --> 00:27:04,723 some pop out because they have something else to say. 511 00:27:04,803 --> 00:27:06,203 You know, if I have Linda sitting next to me 512 00:27:06,283 --> 00:27:08,203 and a young girl in front of me, 513 00:27:08,283 --> 00:27:10,843 sometime it just, it's a bit dangerous 514 00:27:10,923 --> 00:27:13,283 when I start to compare her with other girls I work with. 515 00:27:13,363 --> 00:27:15,523 I have to completely cut off from that. 516 00:27:16,723 --> 00:27:19,883 (soft dramatic music) 517 00:27:25,563 --> 00:27:28,323 (picture clicks) 518 00:27:34,443 --> 00:27:36,123 - Oh, yeah. 519 00:27:36,203 --> 00:27:38,283 (laughs) 520 00:27:39,643 --> 00:27:42,323 When I graduated college, 521 00:27:42,403 --> 00:27:44,203 I had plans to go on to graduate school, 522 00:27:44,283 --> 00:27:46,363 but I wanted to take a gap year. 523 00:27:46,443 --> 00:27:47,843 I was gonna model for a year, 524 00:27:47,923 --> 00:27:49,403 and then I got the opportunity to go to France, 525 00:27:49,483 --> 00:27:50,243 so I was like, okay, 526 00:27:50,323 --> 00:27:52,523 I'm gonna give that a really good shot and make some money, 527 00:27:52,603 --> 00:27:55,083 and then go back to start grad school. 528 00:27:55,923 --> 00:27:57,643 I have a really young-looking face, 529 00:27:57,723 --> 00:28:02,283 and I lied and said I was 17 instead of 22. 530 00:28:02,363 --> 00:28:05,763 'Cause the day I was doing the open call at modelling agency, 531 00:28:05,843 --> 00:28:08,323 a gal went before me, and she was 21, 532 00:28:08,403 --> 00:28:10,803 and they said, "You're too old." 533 00:28:12,243 --> 00:28:15,003 And so instantly, on the spot, I was like, 534 00:28:15,083 --> 00:28:18,883 if 21's too old, 22's definitely too old. 535 00:28:18,963 --> 00:28:20,963 (clears throat) "Hi, I'm 17." 536 00:28:21,483 --> 00:28:23,683 And they were like, "Oh, okay." 537 00:28:23,763 --> 00:28:26,803 The whole experience that I had in Paris modelling 538 00:28:26,883 --> 00:28:29,123 changed the course of my life. 539 00:28:29,203 --> 00:28:31,883 (ominous music) 540 00:28:38,523 --> 00:28:39,843 - The opportunity to go to Paris 541 00:28:39,923 --> 00:28:44,923 and get some of the more exotic looks really appealed to me. 542 00:28:45,923 --> 00:28:48,163 You know, like, "Vogue" and "Marie Claire". 543 00:28:48,243 --> 00:28:53,443 And I just felt like that's really beautiful work. 544 00:28:53,523 --> 00:28:56,043 And figuring, if I started in France, 545 00:28:56,123 --> 00:28:59,483 where I have relatives, that might be a safe bet. 546 00:28:59,563 --> 00:29:01,603 And I already had an agent lined up. 547 00:29:01,683 --> 00:29:03,843 I felt really lucky. 548 00:29:03,923 --> 00:29:05,923 (tense music) 549 00:29:06,003 --> 00:29:10,043 - Claude Haddad of Prestige was considered to be 550 00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:14,243 one of the most powerful, influential men 551 00:29:14,323 --> 00:29:17,323 in the modelling business based in France. 552 00:29:42,203 --> 00:29:43,083 (button clicks) 553 00:29:43,163 --> 00:29:45,163 - When Claude Haddad started Prestige, 554 00:29:45,243 --> 00:29:47,443 it was a way to both make money and give himself 555 00:29:47,523 --> 00:29:49,883 an endless supply of pliable young women. 556 00:29:49,963 --> 00:29:51,883 It was really that simple. 557 00:29:51,963 --> 00:29:54,403 Lots of rich guys start agencies for the same reason, 558 00:29:54,483 --> 00:29:56,763 to become, you know, a date farm for themselves 559 00:29:56,843 --> 00:29:57,883 and their friends. 560 00:29:57,963 --> 00:30:01,483 Claude Haddad was one of the guys who used his position 561 00:30:01,563 --> 00:30:03,243 to abuse women. 562 00:30:03,323 --> 00:30:06,163 (eerie music) 563 00:30:06,243 --> 00:30:07,483 - I remember, the very first day, 564 00:30:07,563 --> 00:30:09,043 going into the modelling agency. 565 00:30:09,123 --> 00:30:11,683 I was, like, so excited. 566 00:30:11,763 --> 00:30:13,723 It was just this humming, busy place. 567 00:30:13,803 --> 00:30:15,123 And they're like, "Oh, oh, you're here. 568 00:30:15,203 --> 00:30:16,123 Where's your suitcases?" 569 00:30:16,203 --> 00:30:18,843 And I'm like, "Oh, you know, I have a place to stay." 570 00:30:20,163 --> 00:30:20,923 And I noticed how other girls 571 00:30:21,003 --> 00:30:22,083 who didn't have places to stay, 572 00:30:22,163 --> 00:30:24,923 they came with their bags, and they were just, you know, 573 00:30:26,163 --> 00:30:28,163 kind of lost. 574 00:30:28,843 --> 00:30:32,403 - For the young models, landing in a foreign country, 575 00:30:32,483 --> 00:30:34,043 not speaking the language, 576 00:30:34,123 --> 00:30:37,003 not being able to find their way around, 577 00:30:37,083 --> 00:30:42,083 being away from home, it was a very isolating experience. 578 00:30:43,323 --> 00:30:47,403 And back then, agents had a tendency 579 00:30:47,483 --> 00:30:50,203 to create an environment 580 00:30:50,283 --> 00:30:53,203 in which they didn't want models to be friends. 581 00:30:53,283 --> 00:30:56,003 They would kind of pit models against each other 582 00:30:56,083 --> 00:30:59,723 so that they could make it easier to manipulate them 583 00:30:59,803 --> 00:31:03,123 into doing whatever they wanted that model to do. 584 00:31:04,363 --> 00:31:06,763 - Claude Haddad, he seemed very enamoured 585 00:31:06,843 --> 00:31:09,043 with a lot of the young, perky girls. 586 00:31:09,123 --> 00:31:10,923 And he was, like, grabbing them, 587 00:31:11,003 --> 00:31:12,963 flirting with them all the time. 588 00:31:13,043 --> 00:31:14,803 He tried a few times with me too, 589 00:31:14,883 --> 00:31:19,083 you know, pat me on the butt, or squeeze me, or whatever, 590 00:31:19,163 --> 00:31:23,483 and I'd be, like, kind of, I wasn't happy about that. 591 00:31:24,723 --> 00:31:26,443 The way he was treating me and expecting me 592 00:31:26,523 --> 00:31:29,163 to be some 16-year-old that adored him, 593 00:31:29,243 --> 00:31:31,083 I was like, "Ew, this is wrong." 594 00:31:31,163 --> 00:31:35,283 There's some creepy side here that either you put out 595 00:31:35,363 --> 00:31:36,723 or you don't work. 596 00:31:36,803 --> 00:31:39,323 (eerie music) 597 00:31:42,763 --> 00:31:45,403 (pensive music) 598 00:31:53,283 --> 00:31:55,123 - The second that I walked into those offices, 599 00:31:55,203 --> 00:31:58,403 it was clear there were a lot of beautiful women 600 00:31:58,483 --> 00:32:00,283 from all over the world, 601 00:32:00,363 --> 00:32:03,843 and it was very sobering to see that I was one 602 00:32:03,923 --> 00:32:07,443 of many, many, many women that would all be going up 603 00:32:07,523 --> 00:32:08,923 for the same jobs. 604 00:32:09,003 --> 00:32:13,883 And then also, there was a sense of, "Wow, this is it. 605 00:32:13,963 --> 00:32:15,683 This is real. 606 00:32:15,763 --> 00:32:17,443 Something might happen." 607 00:32:17,523 --> 00:32:18,363 And at that point, 608 00:32:18,443 --> 00:32:21,723 it was all about hitting the pavement with castings 609 00:32:21,803 --> 00:32:24,043 and getting some photographers 610 00:32:24,123 --> 00:32:27,203 to say that they would do a test shoot with me, 611 00:32:27,283 --> 00:32:30,003 and get those pictures, and put them in my books. 612 00:32:30,883 --> 00:32:32,483 And then, that the agency would then be able 613 00:32:32,563 --> 00:32:34,803 to put me up for jobs. 614 00:32:36,763 --> 00:32:39,163 (soft music) 615 00:33:03,883 --> 00:33:08,843 - The first time that I went into the financial section 616 00:33:08,923 --> 00:33:12,923 of Gerald's agency, it was almost a joke 617 00:33:13,003 --> 00:33:16,283 that I actually thought that I was going to make money, 618 00:33:16,363 --> 00:33:18,723 and there was actually a long list of reasons 619 00:33:18,803 --> 00:33:20,803 that I was in debt. 620 00:33:20,883 --> 00:33:25,563 I was in debt to the agency for footing the bill for travel, 621 00:33:25,643 --> 00:33:28,963 for head shots, for metro tickets. 622 00:33:29,043 --> 00:33:31,443 But there was no clear, "This is what you owe, 623 00:33:31,523 --> 00:33:34,883 and this is much, you know, we need to take first, 624 00:33:34,963 --> 00:33:36,363 and then you start getting paycheques." 625 00:33:36,443 --> 00:33:40,683 It was just this sort of indefinite prison. 626 00:33:42,603 --> 00:33:46,483 When the agency said they were going to pay for everything, 627 00:33:46,563 --> 00:33:48,763 it wasn't explained to me in any way 628 00:33:48,843 --> 00:33:51,603 how this financial exchange worked. 629 00:33:52,523 --> 00:33:57,043 - If you get a new model, they start acquiring expenses, 630 00:33:57,123 --> 00:33:58,243 and before they know it, 631 00:33:58,323 --> 00:34:02,923 that model is accruing thousands of dollars in debt. 632 00:34:03,003 --> 00:34:06,283 And agencies are very well-known 633 00:34:06,363 --> 00:34:11,083 for abusing that and verbally intimidating that model, 634 00:34:11,163 --> 00:34:14,723 saying, "Well, you owe us $20,000." 635 00:34:14,803 --> 00:34:19,123 And you can only imagine a young teenager, 636 00:34:19,203 --> 00:34:21,203 most of them were teenagers, 637 00:34:21,923 --> 00:34:23,963 being essentially held captive 638 00:34:24,043 --> 00:34:26,683 and not having any money to go home. 639 00:34:27,683 --> 00:34:31,123 (soft dramatic music) 640 00:34:31,203 --> 00:34:33,203 - It was hard to make ends meet. 641 00:34:34,243 --> 00:34:35,163 I remember, at one point, 642 00:34:35,243 --> 00:34:37,723 I walked so much that I got holes in my shoes, 643 00:34:37,803 --> 00:34:39,643 and my feet started getting wet from the rain. 644 00:34:39,723 --> 00:34:41,083 I'm like, "I need to buy new shoes. 645 00:34:41,163 --> 00:34:42,643 Like, this is crazy." 646 00:34:42,723 --> 00:34:44,843 And I have literally no money. 647 00:34:48,803 --> 00:34:51,523 I went to see Claude Haddad in his office. 648 00:34:51,603 --> 00:34:54,723 And I said, "I want to be sent out on more appointments. 649 00:34:54,803 --> 00:34:56,003 I need more jobs. 650 00:34:56,083 --> 00:34:56,843 What's going on here?" 651 00:34:56,923 --> 00:34:59,683 And he said, "Oh, you're a motherfucker. 652 00:34:59,763 --> 00:35:01,003 You're a mature woman. 653 00:35:01,083 --> 00:35:02,563 I saw your passport. You're 22. 654 00:35:02,643 --> 00:35:05,523 I can't manipulate you and mould you like I can 655 00:35:05,603 --> 00:35:06,843 with the 16-year-olds. 656 00:35:06,923 --> 00:35:08,123 You know, they look up to me. 657 00:35:08,203 --> 00:35:10,923 I can take them out to dinners and have fun with them. 658 00:35:11,003 --> 00:35:12,963 And you think for yourself. 659 00:35:13,043 --> 00:35:15,163 I can't do that for you." 660 00:35:15,243 --> 00:35:17,123 I was like, whoa. 661 00:35:17,203 --> 00:35:20,683 You know, it's like, he knows I won't play the game. 662 00:35:20,763 --> 00:35:23,243 He won't get anywhere with me that way, sexually. 663 00:35:24,403 --> 00:35:26,883 (tense music) 664 00:35:31,323 --> 00:35:34,683 - In the apartment, there was this, like, incredible, 665 00:35:34,763 --> 00:35:36,803 lavish bathroom. 666 00:35:38,083 --> 00:35:40,163 There was one time nobody was home, 667 00:35:40,243 --> 00:35:42,803 and I started to look around, 668 00:35:42,883 --> 00:35:44,883 and opened up his medicine cabinet, 669 00:35:44,963 --> 00:35:47,083 found this container of something. 670 00:35:47,163 --> 00:35:48,323 It had no label on it. 671 00:35:48,403 --> 00:35:50,203 It looked, like, super suspicious. 672 00:35:50,283 --> 00:35:52,363 Pulled the top off. 673 00:35:52,443 --> 00:35:57,563 And I don't know how much cocaine just went, poof, 674 00:35:57,643 --> 00:35:59,803 and hit the floor, and went, like, 675 00:35:59,883 --> 00:36:02,923 I was just in this, like, cocaine cloud. 676 00:36:03,003 --> 00:36:05,523 And I did my best to get it up, and of course, 677 00:36:05,603 --> 00:36:09,563 within, like, a minute, I hear the door open, 678 00:36:09,643 --> 00:36:11,643 and Gerald came in. 679 00:36:12,803 --> 00:36:14,203 (pensive music) 680 00:36:14,283 --> 00:36:17,683 It was very amusing to him that I was snooping 681 00:36:17,763 --> 00:36:20,443 and that I'd done this whoops. 682 00:36:21,963 --> 00:36:24,203 He told me to get it up as best I could, 683 00:36:24,283 --> 00:36:25,883 but then he rolled up a bill, and he's like, 684 00:36:25,963 --> 00:36:29,443 "Let's just do the lines that are in the cracks 685 00:36:29,523 --> 00:36:31,043 on the floor." 686 00:36:31,123 --> 00:36:36,123 I felt that there was a bond or a trust. 687 00:36:38,203 --> 00:36:41,963 There were many nights after that that Gerald and I 688 00:36:42,043 --> 00:36:44,283 stayed up and did cocaine. 689 00:36:44,363 --> 00:36:46,323 It felt like he was getting to know me 690 00:36:46,403 --> 00:36:49,123 and the past that I came from, 691 00:36:49,203 --> 00:36:51,843 and that, you know, I was this wayward kid, 692 00:36:51,923 --> 00:36:53,923 and I was not perfect, and... 693 00:36:58,963 --> 00:37:01,643 What I obviously can see now 694 00:37:01,723 --> 00:37:06,723 is predatory behaviour on somebody who's really vulnerable. 695 00:37:08,923 --> 00:37:11,323 But because I was a kid, 696 00:37:11,403 --> 00:37:14,283 I couldn't see what was happening. 697 00:37:14,363 --> 00:37:17,043 (ominous music) 698 00:37:25,923 --> 00:37:27,523 - One day, Claude called me in. 699 00:37:27,603 --> 00:37:29,483 He's like (whistles), "Marianne, come in here." 700 00:37:29,563 --> 00:37:33,643 So I come in, and there's two people that he's talking to 701 00:37:33,723 --> 00:37:36,643 in there, like, clients of some kind. 702 00:37:36,723 --> 00:37:41,323 And he was talking about how his models are, 703 00:37:41,403 --> 00:37:42,643 he looks for a certain thing, 704 00:37:42,723 --> 00:37:47,283 and I'm literally just standing there, 705 00:37:47,363 --> 00:37:50,963 and he grabs my waist, and he spins it around. 706 00:37:51,043 --> 00:37:53,763 He pats my ass and hoists my skirt up. 707 00:37:53,843 --> 00:37:57,403 And he goes, "See? This is a real ass." 708 00:37:57,483 --> 00:37:59,723 And then he turns me around, 709 00:37:59,803 --> 00:38:03,163 and he pulls my shirt down to show my cleavage. 710 00:38:03,243 --> 00:38:04,123 And he's like, and he goes, 711 00:38:04,203 --> 00:38:06,323 "This is what, how you should wear it." 712 00:38:07,803 --> 00:38:11,523 It was incredibly humiliating. 713 00:38:13,563 --> 00:38:16,243 After he had touched me and insulted me that way, 714 00:38:16,323 --> 00:38:17,563 I was like, "I'm going to start seeing 715 00:38:17,643 --> 00:38:19,123 if there's someplace else I can work, 716 00:38:19,203 --> 00:38:21,083 because this doesn't feel right. 717 00:38:21,163 --> 00:38:23,163 I can't be around this person." 718 00:38:23,643 --> 00:38:26,923 But little did I realise that that's how the industry was. 719 00:38:27,003 --> 00:38:29,003 It wasn't just him. 720 00:38:33,883 --> 00:38:36,083 (tense music) 721 00:38:36,163 --> 00:38:38,363 - A lot of my time in the castings 722 00:38:38,443 --> 00:38:40,923 and the go-sees was gruelling. 723 00:38:41,003 --> 00:38:43,883 And there was one particular day, it was raining, 724 00:38:43,963 --> 00:38:48,123 I was coming down with some kind of cold, 725 00:38:48,203 --> 00:38:51,083 and so I felt terrible. 726 00:38:51,163 --> 00:38:52,603 I didn't even want dinner. 727 00:38:52,683 --> 00:38:56,563 I just wanted, like, a hot shower and to go to bed. 728 00:38:56,643 --> 00:38:58,643 I just was, like, done. 729 00:38:59,163 --> 00:39:01,163 So... 730 00:39:03,003 --> 00:39:05,003 Sorry (chuckles). 731 00:39:10,443 --> 00:39:11,723 (voice breaking) So in that state 732 00:39:11,803 --> 00:39:16,763 of just feeling really vulnerable and really homesick, 733 00:39:18,883 --> 00:39:20,323 I did fall asleep, 734 00:39:20,403 --> 00:39:24,043 and I remember watching the rain before I fell asleep. 735 00:39:24,123 --> 00:39:26,523 And Gerald came in in the middle of the night 736 00:39:27,523 --> 00:39:29,163 and pulled back the covers, 737 00:39:29,243 --> 00:39:31,243 I was already naked, 738 00:39:31,323 --> 00:39:36,323 and basically forced himself on me, and he raped me. 739 00:39:37,083 --> 00:39:37,883 (sniffles) 740 00:39:37,963 --> 00:39:39,243 (sighs deeply) 741 00:39:39,323 --> 00:39:42,363 (dark music) 742 00:39:42,443 --> 00:39:46,003 And I remember being so devastated and terrified 743 00:39:46,083 --> 00:39:49,363 that this relationship took, like, just boom, 744 00:39:49,443 --> 00:39:51,083 it just turned. 745 00:39:51,163 --> 00:39:52,163 And it went from being, like, 746 00:39:52,243 --> 00:39:55,203 somewhat fun and somewhat, like, okay, 747 00:39:56,683 --> 00:40:00,043 that I was going to be okay and safe to, boom, 748 00:40:00,123 --> 00:40:01,883 completely just flipped over. 749 00:40:01,963 --> 00:40:04,163 And it was clear to me 750 00:40:04,243 --> 00:40:09,243 that I had kind of played my cards wrong, 751 00:40:10,443 --> 00:40:14,683 that I had trusted, and that I was not safe. 752 00:40:16,563 --> 00:40:17,363 I was not okay. 753 00:40:17,443 --> 00:40:21,043 And that was the beginning of a new relationship 754 00:40:21,123 --> 00:40:23,123 that was completely dictated, 755 00:40:24,603 --> 00:40:27,323 where I could not have any say. 756 00:40:28,243 --> 00:40:30,403 And there was an expectation of me. 757 00:40:31,523 --> 00:40:34,203 (ominous music) 758 00:40:54,003 --> 00:40:58,483 - The expectation and the dynamic that was established 759 00:40:58,563 --> 00:41:02,883 after that first assault was that, whenever Linda left town, 760 00:41:02,963 --> 00:41:04,963 I would... 761 00:41:08,043 --> 00:41:10,043 I would put up with his advances. 762 00:41:11,723 --> 00:41:14,763 And Linda couldn't have known any of that. 763 00:41:17,283 --> 00:41:22,283 It went on for the rest of my stay at his apartment, 764 00:41:23,243 --> 00:41:27,443 so I would say 6 to 8 to 10 weeks. 765 00:41:29,043 --> 00:41:31,923 And that happened whenever Linda was out of town, 766 00:41:32,003 --> 00:41:35,163 so sometimes several times a week. 767 00:41:36,683 --> 00:41:39,203 (tense music) 768 00:41:40,723 --> 00:41:43,483 I felt at that time that I had to put up with it, 769 00:41:43,563 --> 00:41:45,043 because I would lose my job, 770 00:41:45,123 --> 00:41:47,003 I would lose the roof over my head, 771 00:41:47,083 --> 00:41:49,243 I would lose everything. 772 00:41:49,323 --> 00:41:51,683 And what that looked like for a teen in Paris 773 00:41:51,763 --> 00:41:56,763 with nobody and nothing to fall back on was very real. 774 00:41:57,443 --> 00:41:59,243 It was very real. 775 00:41:59,323 --> 00:42:02,483 (soft dramatic music) 776 00:42:05,323 --> 00:42:06,443 (door creaks) 777 00:42:32,443 --> 00:42:35,563 - It was my understanding John was cajoled 778 00:42:35,643 --> 00:42:39,043 into bringing Gerald in because Gerald yielded 779 00:42:39,123 --> 00:42:43,123 a lot of power, and that he could bring in 780 00:42:43,203 --> 00:42:47,323 more businessmen to bring in more clients 781 00:42:47,403 --> 00:42:50,083 and make the company more money. 782 00:42:50,163 --> 00:42:52,163 He had a power of his own. 783 00:42:53,883 --> 00:42:58,203 The culture starts at the top, and then it trickles down. 784 00:42:58,283 --> 00:43:02,683 So if this is being established, that sex abuse is okay, 785 00:43:02,763 --> 00:43:04,963 then other people are going to be part 786 00:43:05,043 --> 00:43:08,363 of that same cult-like thinking. 787 00:43:09,563 --> 00:43:12,283 (brooding music) 788 00:43:18,003 --> 00:43:22,043 - After I met John Casablancas, he said that, 789 00:43:22,123 --> 00:43:25,203 "Oh, you know, Linda and Gerald have seen your pictures, 790 00:43:25,283 --> 00:43:26,283 and they love you, 791 00:43:26,363 --> 00:43:28,163 and they think you're gonna do really well." 792 00:43:28,243 --> 00:43:32,923 And he proposed the idea of coming to Paris. 793 00:43:33,003 --> 00:43:35,003 I thought it was a huge compliment. 794 00:43:37,163 --> 00:43:38,043 (vehicle revs) 795 00:43:38,123 --> 00:43:40,723 And then I was told that Gerald Marie 796 00:43:40,803 --> 00:43:43,283 wanted to make sure I was taken care of 797 00:43:43,363 --> 00:43:45,363 because I was only 15. 798 00:43:47,083 --> 00:43:48,403 I was like, "Wow, I'm in." 799 00:43:48,483 --> 00:43:50,843 This is, you know, the most exciting opportunity 800 00:43:50,923 --> 00:43:52,483 to come along. 801 00:43:52,563 --> 00:43:54,923 There was no looking back for me. 802 00:43:55,003 --> 00:43:58,123 (tense music) 803 00:43:58,203 --> 00:43:59,003 - I really thought that everything 804 00:43:59,083 --> 00:44:02,043 that was happening was just happening to me. 805 00:44:03,643 --> 00:44:08,643 I had no idea how far and wide the abuses went. 806 00:44:13,083 --> 00:44:14,403 - [Automated Female Voice] Deuxieme etage. 807 00:44:14,483 --> 00:44:19,483 (elevator beeps) (tense music) 808 00:44:20,403 --> 00:44:23,443 (door creaks) 809 00:44:23,523 --> 00:44:25,523 - I was not alone. 810 00:44:25,963 --> 00:44:28,723 (ethereal music) 811 00:44:52,483 --> 00:44:55,243 (dramatic music) 812 00:45:21,323 --> 00:45:23,803 (logo chimes)