1 00:00:03,296 --> 00:00:04,881 [soft country music playing] 2 00:00:06,382 --> 00:00:10,470 [woman] I believe every great leader of their own destiny is fearless. 3 00:00:13,431 --> 00:00:14,891 There is no other way to be. 4 00:00:16,559 --> 00:00:18,811 Aware but fearless. 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,483 I am going to make my own decisions in life, 6 00:00:23,566 --> 00:00:25,651 and I'm going to make my own money. 7 00:00:26,152 --> 00:00:29,155 I'm going to buy my own car, make my own way. 8 00:00:29,238 --> 00:00:31,282 I'm not going to depend on anybody else. 9 00:00:32,075 --> 00:00:35,745 The minute you depend on somebody else, you lose something. 10 00:00:35,828 --> 00:00:38,956 You lose the right to decide for yourself. 11 00:00:39,707 --> 00:00:41,626 You've just got to go for it. 12 00:00:42,126 --> 00:00:46,756 Taking the risks to do things your way can be scary. 13 00:00:46,839 --> 00:00:49,258 So you got to be brave. 14 00:00:49,342 --> 00:00:51,302 [audience cheering] 15 00:01:16,369 --> 00:01:17,578 [cheering] 16 00:01:23,126 --> 00:01:24,919 [cheering intensifies] 17 00:01:33,386 --> 00:01:35,096 [upbeat music playing] 18 00:01:36,055 --> 00:01:38,391 ♪ Let's go girls ♪ 19 00:01:38,474 --> 00:01:42,728 [woman] Shania changed country music because she went like this, 20 00:01:42,812 --> 00:01:44,564 "Oh, these are the lines? Cool." 21 00:01:44,647 --> 00:01:48,192 ♪ I'm going out tonight I'm feeling all right ♪ 22 00:01:48,276 --> 00:01:53,114 She was the first person to break that door open and go across the music genres. 23 00:01:53,197 --> 00:01:54,699 She was that trailblazer. 24 00:01:54,782 --> 00:01:57,994 Shania does it all. She plays guitar, she writes her own songs, 25 00:01:58,661 --> 00:02:01,038 she has, like, insane live shows. 26 00:02:01,873 --> 00:02:05,751 She was a strong female in country, which is hard because country music's, like, 27 00:02:05,835 --> 00:02:06,961 the women don't make it. 28 00:02:07,044 --> 00:02:09,964 You'd have to take a sledgehammer to knock her down. 29 00:02:13,259 --> 00:02:15,595 Record sales. Not streaming. 30 00:02:16,179 --> 00:02:18,890 [man] How many artists have followed huge records 31 00:02:18,973 --> 00:02:21,434 with one more, much less two more? 32 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,231 [woman] She might not wear a banner on her hat that, "I'm a feminist." 33 00:02:27,315 --> 00:02:28,608 She just did it. 34 00:02:29,567 --> 00:02:31,861 Shania Twain shifted culture. 35 00:02:31,944 --> 00:02:35,615 She paved the way not only for women in country, 36 00:02:35,698 --> 00:02:37,742 but musicians everywhere. 37 00:02:37,825 --> 00:02:39,368 [cheering] 38 00:02:42,038 --> 00:02:43,080 Are you ready? 39 00:02:43,164 --> 00:02:45,416 [cheering] 40 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:46,876 [Shania] I said… 41 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,004 are you ready? 42 00:02:50,087 --> 00:02:53,090 [cheering wildly] 43 00:03:02,141 --> 00:03:03,851 [cheering continues] 44 00:03:03,935 --> 00:03:05,144 [guitar playing] 45 00:03:15,613 --> 00:03:18,199 [Shania] I spent most of my childhood growing up 46 00:03:18,282 --> 00:03:21,911 in what I would call a medium-sized mining town, 47 00:03:21,994 --> 00:03:23,371 Timmins, Ontario. 48 00:03:31,170 --> 00:03:33,965 [Shania] We were struggling as far as, you know, money. 49 00:03:34,048 --> 00:03:37,176 So there was always a problem paying electric bills, 50 00:03:37,885 --> 00:03:39,595 the rent, um… 51 00:03:39,679 --> 00:03:42,014 Always a problem buying groceries. 52 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,142 So it was just this struggle all the time. 53 00:03:47,937 --> 00:03:49,313 My mom loved music. 54 00:03:49,397 --> 00:03:52,900 Both my parents loved music, so there was always music playing. 55 00:03:52,984 --> 00:03:54,277 Mostly country music. 56 00:03:55,653 --> 00:03:59,865 I mean, I listened to a lot of Dolly, you know, the Coat of Many Colors. 57 00:04:00,533 --> 00:04:03,119 ♪ My coat of many colors ♪ 58 00:04:03,202 --> 00:04:06,372 ♪ That my momma made for me ♪ 59 00:04:06,455 --> 00:04:08,749 ♪ Made only from rags ♪ 60 00:04:08,833 --> 00:04:12,003 ♪ But I wore it so proudly ♪ 61 00:04:13,462 --> 00:04:16,048 ♪ Although we had no money ♪ 62 00:04:16,132 --> 00:04:18,634 ♪ I was rich as I could be ♪ 63 00:04:18,718 --> 00:04:22,013 ♪ In my coat of many colors ♪ 64 00:04:22,096 --> 00:04:25,141 ♪ My momma made for me ♪ 65 00:04:26,517 --> 00:04:29,270 So Dolly Parton was a big influence on me. 66 00:04:29,353 --> 00:04:32,189 -My child, how you've growed. -I'm growin', ain't I? 67 00:04:33,607 --> 00:04:36,027 [Shania] She had lived a life that was very interesting, 68 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:37,945 you know, grew up in a little shack. 69 00:04:38,029 --> 00:04:40,448 With a bunch of kids, not a lot of money. 70 00:04:40,948 --> 00:04:45,161 I was fascinated by her story, and I related and thought, "Well…" 71 00:04:46,787 --> 00:04:52,585 "If she came from all the way there and ended up all the way over there… 72 00:04:53,711 --> 00:04:55,212 I guess it's possible." 73 00:04:55,296 --> 00:04:56,380 "Maybe I can…" 74 00:04:56,881 --> 00:04:58,549 "Maybe I have a shot." 75 00:04:58,632 --> 00:05:00,634 [radio stations changing] 76 00:05:01,886 --> 00:05:04,305 [country music playing] 77 00:05:05,222 --> 00:05:07,892 [Shania] I was kind of a radio channel hog. 78 00:05:07,975 --> 00:05:10,728 I was the one that was always changing the channel, 79 00:05:10,811 --> 00:05:14,398 finding music that I thought we should listen to in the car. [chuckles] 80 00:05:16,233 --> 00:05:19,278 I would always go for the harmonies just constantly, 81 00:05:19,362 --> 00:05:20,571 you know, singing along. 82 00:05:22,281 --> 00:05:25,785 I think that's probably where my mother would have recognized 83 00:05:25,868 --> 00:05:27,411 that I had a different… 84 00:05:28,371 --> 00:05:31,123 ear for music than just the average kid. 85 00:05:32,666 --> 00:05:36,128 She thought I should develop it and become a little singer. 86 00:05:38,255 --> 00:05:42,593 At the age of three, my mom would put me up on the counter tops, 87 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:45,221 and I would sing for the people in the restaurant. 88 00:05:45,304 --> 00:05:47,223 Sing along with the jukebox. 89 00:05:47,306 --> 00:05:49,934 Pretty much anywhere that my mother could find an audience, 90 00:05:50,017 --> 00:05:52,478 that's where she brought me to sing. 91 00:05:54,397 --> 00:05:57,274 I started playing guitar at the age of eight years old. 92 00:05:57,358 --> 00:06:00,820 My dad taught me my first three chords. 93 00:06:01,779 --> 00:06:02,947 D, G, and A. 94 00:06:03,030 --> 00:06:04,532 [chuckles] I remember clearly. 95 00:06:04,615 --> 00:06:06,158 [guitar playing] 96 00:06:07,034 --> 00:06:11,539 [Shania] It was my mother's dream for me to become a professional singer. 97 00:06:17,378 --> 00:06:21,882 She'd say, "Okay, I'm going to come get you up, uh… 98 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:23,926 once your dad's asleep, 99 00:06:24,009 --> 00:06:27,012 and then we're going to sneak out and… 100 00:06:28,556 --> 00:06:31,517 go to the bar, and you're going to sing a set." 101 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:35,813 And, you know, sometimes we would get back, and he'd still be sleeping, 102 00:06:35,896 --> 00:06:39,817 and other times he'd be waiting for us. Um… 103 00:06:41,318 --> 00:06:43,237 That would not end well. 104 00:06:45,406 --> 00:06:48,325 I was petrified to get up there and sing. 105 00:06:49,869 --> 00:06:52,413 It was okay to go in there as a kid 106 00:06:52,496 --> 00:06:55,791 once the bar was legally no longer serving alcohol, 107 00:06:55,875 --> 00:06:59,545 even though everybody's tables were loaded with their last call drinks. 108 00:07:00,045 --> 00:07:02,339 It was crazy. I had school in the morning. 109 00:07:02,423 --> 00:07:04,133 My mother was obsessed. 110 00:07:05,092 --> 00:07:07,386 There weren't any other kids singing in bars. 111 00:07:07,470 --> 00:07:09,054 I mean, just period. 112 00:07:09,138 --> 00:07:11,098 And it was not the norm. No. 113 00:07:12,224 --> 00:07:16,937 I remember that I always tried to keep a hundred songs in my repertoire. 114 00:07:17,730 --> 00:07:18,939 At a time. 115 00:07:20,149 --> 00:07:22,234 So that if the band didn't know one song, 116 00:07:22,318 --> 00:07:25,154 they'd know the other song or something like that. 117 00:07:25,237 --> 00:07:27,114 And also I could take requests. 118 00:07:32,244 --> 00:07:34,455 Growing up in a violent household 119 00:07:35,414 --> 00:07:36,457 was… 120 00:07:37,208 --> 00:07:38,083 horrible. 121 00:07:38,167 --> 00:07:39,668 But I… 122 00:07:40,294 --> 00:07:42,963 locked myself away with music 123 00:07:43,047 --> 00:07:45,007 to block out everything else, 124 00:07:45,090 --> 00:07:49,136 so that all I could see, hear, think, and imagine was music. 125 00:07:49,220 --> 00:07:50,846 Probably hearing my mother 126 00:07:50,930 --> 00:07:53,766 saying, "You can make it. You're going to make it." 127 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,771 I felt like that was going to save us somehow if I made it, 128 00:07:58,854 --> 00:08:01,565 and it was more of a responsibility to be… 129 00:08:02,691 --> 00:08:05,110 a performer, to do it as a career. 130 00:08:05,194 --> 00:08:10,449 ♪ And momma never wanted anymore Than what she had ♪ 131 00:08:10,533 --> 00:08:15,371 ♪ If she did She never did say so to Daddy ♪ 132 00:08:16,163 --> 00:08:19,041 ♪ He often left her all alone ♪ 133 00:08:19,124 --> 00:08:21,794 ♪ And she didn't mind the stayin' home ♪ 134 00:08:21,877 --> 00:08:26,340 ♪ If she did She never did say so to Daddy ♪ 135 00:08:27,049 --> 00:08:30,135 ♪ And she never missed the flowers ♪ 136 00:08:30,219 --> 00:08:32,805 ♪ And the cards he never sent her ♪ 137 00:08:32,888 --> 00:08:37,184 ♪ If she did She never did say so to Daddy ♪ 138 00:08:37,268 --> 00:08:40,104 [woman] I was doing a concert in Northern Ontario, 139 00:08:40,980 --> 00:08:42,982 and Shania was the opening act. 140 00:08:43,983 --> 00:08:46,527 And this little girl, probably 11, 141 00:08:46,610 --> 00:08:49,321 guitar was larger than she was, actually, 142 00:08:49,405 --> 00:08:53,826 and sat down and sang, and I was in the wings and went, 143 00:08:54,868 --> 00:08:57,621 "Oh my, I… I can't believe this." 144 00:08:57,705 --> 00:08:59,665 ♪ …so to Daddy ♪ 145 00:09:00,207 --> 00:09:03,210 ♪ One morning we awoke ♪ 146 00:09:03,294 --> 00:09:05,796 ♪ Just to find the note ♪ 147 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:08,215 ♪ That momma carefully wrote ♪ 148 00:09:08,299 --> 00:09:10,342 ♪ And left to daddy ♪ 149 00:09:10,426 --> 00:09:13,846 ♪ And as he began to read it ♪ 150 00:09:13,929 --> 00:09:16,724 ♪ Our ears could not believe it ♪ 151 00:09:16,807 --> 00:09:18,934 ♪ The words that she had written ♪ 152 00:09:19,018 --> 00:09:21,520 ♪ There to daddy ♪ 153 00:09:21,604 --> 00:09:27,192 I mean, this sound, this voice, the control, way back then. 154 00:09:27,276 --> 00:09:32,990 She brought tears to my eyes. That's how much emotion was in the voice. 155 00:09:34,617 --> 00:09:36,452 Her mother was there, Sharon. 156 00:09:37,077 --> 00:09:40,497 And Sharon asked if I would consider working with her. 157 00:09:41,290 --> 00:09:47,463 I, I thought then, right from the get-go, that this little girl had a chance. 158 00:09:47,546 --> 00:09:50,215 [band music playing] 159 00:09:56,930 --> 00:09:59,099 [Shania] I just knew that I loved music. 160 00:09:59,183 --> 00:10:03,520 I was always singing. I was always being musically creative. 161 00:10:04,772 --> 00:10:07,191 By the time I was a teenager, yeah, I was on… 162 00:10:07,274 --> 00:10:10,736 I was doing the odd little TV thing. 163 00:10:12,738 --> 00:10:15,366 It's a pleasure to welcome her back, 15 years of age, 164 00:10:15,449 --> 00:10:18,535 here's Miss Eilleen Twain! Let's make her welcome. 165 00:10:18,619 --> 00:10:21,080 [audience cheering, whistling] 166 00:10:24,166 --> 00:10:27,336 ♪ Just walk on by ♪ 167 00:10:27,419 --> 00:10:30,130 ♪ Wait on the corner ♪ 168 00:10:31,340 --> 00:10:35,844 ♪ You know I love you But we're strangers when we meet ♪ 169 00:10:37,596 --> 00:10:40,599 ♪ If I see you tomorrow ♪ 170 00:10:41,183 --> 00:10:44,103 ♪ On some little place in town ♪ 171 00:10:44,186 --> 00:10:49,400 ♪ Pardon me if I don't say hello ♪ 172 00:10:49,483 --> 00:10:50,693 ♪ Hello ♪ 173 00:10:50,776 --> 00:10:54,154 ♪ I belong to another ♪ 174 00:10:54,238 --> 00:10:57,491 ♪ And it wouldn't look so good ♪ 175 00:10:57,574 --> 00:11:02,996 ♪ To know someone I'm not supposed to know ♪ 176 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,500 ♪ Just walk on by ♪ 177 00:11:06,583 --> 00:11:09,169 ♪ Wait on the corner ♪ 178 00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:13,841 ♪ I love you but we're strangers ♪ 179 00:11:13,924 --> 00:11:15,759 ♪ When we meet ♪ 180 00:11:15,843 --> 00:11:19,972 By the time I was 16, I was already… 181 00:11:20,848 --> 00:11:23,308 really wanting to sing rock. 182 00:11:24,184 --> 00:11:26,562 Which my parents did not like 183 00:11:27,062 --> 00:11:32,317 because they thought I was going to sing "their country" for the rest of my life. 184 00:11:32,401 --> 00:11:35,487 ♪ Hit me with your best shot ♪ 185 00:11:35,571 --> 00:11:38,490 ♪ Why don't you hit me With your best shot ♪ 186 00:11:38,574 --> 00:11:42,369 They wanted me to be the next Tanya Tucker. 187 00:11:42,953 --> 00:11:44,538 I wanted to rock out, you know. 188 00:11:44,621 --> 00:11:47,541 Wanted to use my energy and get out from behind my guitar. 189 00:11:48,584 --> 00:11:54,423 It was a really tough transition because I was always such a shy singer. 190 00:11:55,215 --> 00:11:57,092 I think, once I started singing rock, 191 00:11:57,176 --> 00:11:59,219 I started developing my own style. 192 00:11:59,303 --> 00:12:03,390 I was stretching out creatively, artistically, 193 00:12:03,474 --> 00:12:06,018 and it was also affecting my songwriting. 194 00:12:07,895 --> 00:12:13,525 Mare was a big support. She was encouraging me to keep writing songs, 195 00:12:13,609 --> 00:12:15,194 make more demos… 196 00:12:16,236 --> 00:12:21,408 It was at that time, I thought, you know, she really has it. 197 00:12:21,492 --> 00:12:23,827 She really has something unique. 198 00:12:23,911 --> 00:12:25,913 [vocalizing] 199 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:34,129 The idea was to make these demos for… 200 00:12:34,213 --> 00:12:39,092 you know, to get producers and record labels interested. 201 00:12:41,386 --> 00:12:42,304 And… 202 00:12:44,473 --> 00:12:46,099 then my parents died. 203 00:12:47,726 --> 00:12:49,728 [soft piano playing] 204 00:13:02,950 --> 00:13:07,746 [Shania] And nobody could really help me through that… 205 00:13:09,373 --> 00:13:10,290 grief. 206 00:13:11,917 --> 00:13:14,503 [Mary Bailey] It was a devastating time. 207 00:13:16,505 --> 00:13:19,132 Her world was pulled out from under her. 208 00:13:21,885 --> 00:13:24,805 She said, "Mary, I don't know what I'm going to do." 209 00:13:24,888 --> 00:13:25,889 "I really don't know." 210 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,398 [Shania] At the time, I just really wanted to quit… 211 00:13:35,566 --> 00:13:37,359 [clicks tongue] And… 212 00:13:38,652 --> 00:13:39,945 get a real job. 213 00:13:40,028 --> 00:13:42,781 I've got kids now. I've got kids to support. 214 00:13:43,699 --> 00:13:45,617 How am I going to do it? 215 00:13:46,285 --> 00:13:50,914 And Mary Bailey says, there's a singing job opening up at a resort 216 00:13:50,998 --> 00:13:55,002 in a place called Deerhurst in Huntsville, Ontario. 217 00:13:56,253 --> 00:13:59,798 Deerhurst was a resort that had shows. 218 00:13:59,882 --> 00:14:04,720 They did sort of an Off-Broadway production of musicals. 219 00:14:04,803 --> 00:14:06,430 And it was a gig. It was a job. 220 00:14:06,513 --> 00:14:09,766 It was an opportunity to make some money to feed her family. 221 00:14:09,850 --> 00:14:13,896 And it turned out that live performing was going to pay better, 222 00:14:13,979 --> 00:14:19,026 even at this level, at that little level, than, um, working a regular day job. 223 00:14:19,109 --> 00:14:21,445 I mean, it was pretty decent paying. 224 00:14:22,362 --> 00:14:24,948 I was able to support my brothers. Um… 225 00:14:25,032 --> 00:14:29,077 I was able to make enough money to put food on the table singing at this resort. 226 00:14:30,037 --> 00:14:31,371 ♪ I was the one… ♪ 227 00:14:31,455 --> 00:14:33,540 Once I was performing at Deerhurst, 228 00:14:33,624 --> 00:14:36,168 the Vegas-style show 229 00:14:36,251 --> 00:14:38,712 was a whole different thing. 230 00:14:38,795 --> 00:14:41,423 It was the first time I had ever done anything like that. 231 00:14:41,506 --> 00:14:44,217 [announcer] Miss Eilleen Twain. How 'bout it? Let me hear it! 232 00:14:44,801 --> 00:14:48,639 [Shania] It was pretty scary. I didn't really know what I was doing at all. 233 00:14:49,139 --> 00:14:51,141 I had no idea 234 00:14:52,392 --> 00:14:55,938 how to sing and wear high heel shoes, for example, 235 00:14:56,021 --> 00:14:56,897 at the same time. 236 00:14:57,814 --> 00:15:00,442 I had to learn fast because this was now my new job. 237 00:15:01,026 --> 00:15:06,573 ♪ Did you ever know that you're my hero? ♪ 238 00:15:06,657 --> 00:15:10,869 Somewhere in the middle of all of that, I learned 239 00:15:11,662 --> 00:15:14,748 to respect and appreciate that 240 00:15:14,831 --> 00:15:19,211 I did have a talent that would be a shame to throw away and not pursue. 241 00:15:19,294 --> 00:15:23,715 I was busy rehearsing, running the kids back and forth. 242 00:15:23,799 --> 00:15:27,928 You know, before and after the show, I would go home and write. 243 00:15:28,887 --> 00:15:33,308 There was no other way to get ahead except working my ass off, really. 244 00:15:33,392 --> 00:15:34,893 That was it. No other way. 245 00:15:34,977 --> 00:15:39,898 ♪ And whoever said That opposites attract ♪ 246 00:15:40,649 --> 00:15:45,237 ♪ I'd say they all know where is that ♪ 247 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,241 All I could do was keep working, keep demoing, keep writing, 248 00:15:49,324 --> 00:15:51,118 and hoping I would get a break. 249 00:15:51,201 --> 00:15:54,579 [Mary Bailey] Shania started to focus more on, and understand 250 00:15:54,663 --> 00:15:58,542 who she was, and the direction she wanted to take. 251 00:15:59,084 --> 00:16:03,797 She called and said, "You know, Mary, I'm ready to do country." 252 00:16:05,882 --> 00:16:07,759 [country music playing] 253 00:16:09,845 --> 00:16:11,930 [announcer] Nashville 95, WSM-FM… 254 00:16:12,723 --> 00:16:14,516 [cheering] 255 00:16:27,362 --> 00:16:32,534 Well, my debut record was an experience that was pretty much 256 00:16:32,617 --> 00:16:35,996 me as the newbie in town, in Nashville, 257 00:16:36,580 --> 00:16:40,459 treading lightly, trying to find my way 258 00:16:40,542 --> 00:16:44,171 as an original artist with all my own ideas… 259 00:16:45,172 --> 00:16:47,883 without being, you know, kicked out of town. 260 00:16:56,683 --> 00:17:01,313 Well, I was vice president of the A&R department 261 00:17:02,189 --> 00:17:04,649 when I signed Shania. 262 00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:11,239 I remember the sound of her voice, mainly. 263 00:17:11,323 --> 00:17:15,911 She… She still does not sound like any other singer. 264 00:17:15,994 --> 00:17:20,040 ♪ You lay a whole lot of love on me ♪ 265 00:17:20,624 --> 00:17:25,003 Her songs, uh, I don't… mean this in a wrong way, 266 00:17:25,087 --> 00:17:28,965 but some of her songs I thought were incomplete 267 00:17:29,049 --> 00:17:31,718 at the time, and, uh… 268 00:17:33,095 --> 00:17:35,847 they were not as country 269 00:17:36,681 --> 00:17:40,644 as we were thinking about at that time. 270 00:17:40,727 --> 00:17:44,940 So we started looking for other songs 271 00:17:45,023 --> 00:17:48,360 from other writers and publishers in town. 272 00:17:49,653 --> 00:17:54,366 [Shania] I was definitely coming from a spicier place as a songwriter. 273 00:17:55,575 --> 00:17:58,537 And the A&R department, 274 00:17:59,204 --> 00:18:01,498 just didn't think it was country enough, 275 00:18:01,581 --> 00:18:05,627 and I kind of had to do a little reset on my expectations. 276 00:18:06,545 --> 00:18:08,046 I didn't cry about it. 277 00:18:09,131 --> 00:18:11,049 I accepted it. 278 00:18:12,634 --> 00:18:14,678 There's not 279 00:18:15,554 --> 00:18:19,432 really that much of my, you know, creative input… 280 00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:22,853 [clicks tongue] …in the album at all. 281 00:18:23,603 --> 00:18:26,273 Um, other than maybe just the way I sang things 282 00:18:26,356 --> 00:18:29,442 or the way I phrase things, that sort of thing in the studio. 283 00:18:29,526 --> 00:18:32,863 Even that didn't leave me any room, because they were three-hour sessions. 284 00:18:32,946 --> 00:18:34,990 What could I do in three-hour sessions? 285 00:18:35,073 --> 00:18:37,701 Jingle singers can do it in three-hour sessions. 286 00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:41,454 But if you're trying to be creative… I had no room to experiment. 287 00:18:41,538 --> 00:18:43,373 I had no room to grow into… 288 00:18:44,082 --> 00:18:45,917 Uh, to grow into the project. 289 00:18:46,668 --> 00:18:48,670 [country music playing] 290 00:18:50,046 --> 00:18:53,758 You had a female artist and a female manager to start. 291 00:18:54,885 --> 00:18:58,013 And I don't think that we were taken that seriously. 292 00:18:58,597 --> 00:19:01,141 Shania, welcome to the show. You look terrific on camera. 293 00:19:01,224 --> 00:19:02,225 -Really. -Thank you. 294 00:19:02,309 --> 00:19:05,312 I think one of the important aspects of the business these days 295 00:19:05,395 --> 00:19:08,398 is presentation, and looks play an important role in that. 296 00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:10,984 And you have the looks to back up a wonderful song. 297 00:19:11,067 --> 00:19:13,820 Is that true, this is the last one you recorded for the album? 298 00:19:13,904 --> 00:19:15,447 -No, I lied. -[host] Oh, you lied? 299 00:19:15,530 --> 00:19:16,364 [laughing] 300 00:19:16,448 --> 00:19:17,824 -[Shania] No, it's true. -Good girl. 301 00:19:17,908 --> 00:19:20,869 And this is the album called Shania Twain. 302 00:19:20,952 --> 00:19:23,330 That's easy to remember because it's so unusual, 303 00:19:23,413 --> 00:19:25,332 and there's a pretty picture on the cover. 304 00:19:25,415 --> 00:19:27,709 Joining us now is Shania Twain. 305 00:19:27,792 --> 00:19:31,463 Her self-titled debut album has been garnering its share of attention. 306 00:19:31,546 --> 00:19:32,797 -Yeah. -You look great. 307 00:19:32,881 --> 00:19:34,132 -Sound good too. -Thank you. 308 00:19:34,216 --> 00:19:38,220 You have to work three times as hard as the average guy in country music, 309 00:19:38,303 --> 00:19:40,180 in order to in order to get a shot. 310 00:19:41,223 --> 00:19:43,308 To be relentless was the only way. 311 00:19:44,267 --> 00:19:46,728 I think that's the only way to be taken seriously. 312 00:19:46,811 --> 00:19:49,356 You have to kill yourself to get there. Is it worth it? 313 00:19:49,439 --> 00:19:52,067 I don't know. I think that when you're young, 314 00:19:52,859 --> 00:19:55,278 why not, right? 315 00:19:56,655 --> 00:19:59,032 Women in country music, 316 00:19:59,115 --> 00:20:00,408 specifically, 317 00:20:00,492 --> 00:20:05,497 have sometimes been held to a different standard than their male counterparts 318 00:20:05,580 --> 00:20:07,707 within country. Uh… 319 00:20:07,791 --> 00:20:11,962 Johnny Cash could get away with singing about shooting a man in Reno 320 00:20:12,045 --> 00:20:16,299 and drinking himself to death, and, you know, doing cocaine, 321 00:20:16,383 --> 00:20:19,261 uh, and everyone would be fine with that. 322 00:20:19,844 --> 00:20:23,807 Uh, and then women were expected to present kind of, maybe, 323 00:20:23,890 --> 00:20:26,601 what would be considered, like, good Christian values. 324 00:20:27,936 --> 00:20:32,482 [woman] I think, especially for a female, if you don't know who you are, 325 00:20:32,565 --> 00:20:35,986 and what you want to say, and what you want to represent, 326 00:20:36,069 --> 00:20:37,570 someone's going to tell you. 327 00:20:37,654 --> 00:20:41,491 And that might not align with, like, what you actually want. 328 00:20:42,367 --> 00:20:45,537 ♪ Maybe tonight I'm gonna tell him ♪ 329 00:20:46,329 --> 00:20:47,580 ♪ How I feel ♪ 330 00:20:47,664 --> 00:20:51,167 ♪ Maybe I'll leave well enough alone ♪ 331 00:20:52,794 --> 00:20:56,047 The music video for, "What Made You Say That?" that was the moment 332 00:20:56,131 --> 00:20:58,550 that I grabbed onto creatively, 333 00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:00,927 and it was liberating. 334 00:21:01,011 --> 00:21:04,472 And I liberated myself in so many ways. 335 00:21:04,556 --> 00:21:06,766 Right from that very first video. 336 00:21:07,517 --> 00:21:12,689 [Mary Bailey] She may have had limitations with the music that she could record, 337 00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:18,194 but visually she really could be creative in all elements. 338 00:21:18,278 --> 00:21:20,238 It was like freedom. 339 00:21:20,322 --> 00:21:23,116 ♪ …I heard a voice inside me say ♪ 340 00:21:23,199 --> 00:21:24,534 ♪ What made you say that ♪ 341 00:21:24,617 --> 00:21:28,079 ♪ Was it the moonlight Was it the starlight in your eyes ♪ 342 00:21:28,163 --> 00:21:29,622 ♪ What made you say that ♪ 343 00:21:29,706 --> 00:21:31,833 ♪ Have you been listening to your heart ♪ 344 00:21:31,916 --> 00:21:35,670 It was probably the biggest turning point for me as an artist, 345 00:21:35,754 --> 00:21:39,924 that it was going to be hands-on from then on than anything else I've ever done. 346 00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:42,635 Um, because it really set a tone. 347 00:21:43,219 --> 00:21:49,100 [Mary] It's so fresh compared to the other things that were being shown at that time. 348 00:21:49,184 --> 00:21:50,643 Look at it. 349 00:21:50,727 --> 00:21:53,938 It's like, "Oh my God, how can we show this?" 350 00:21:54,022 --> 00:21:56,566 I mean, this woman is very sensual, 351 00:21:56,649 --> 00:21:59,486 and CMT initially wasn't too keen on that 352 00:21:59,569 --> 00:22:01,488 because that was brand new, you know. 353 00:22:01,571 --> 00:22:05,658 Women didn't really show their midriff that much 354 00:22:05,742 --> 00:22:07,285 in country music. 355 00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:09,996 I was a disruption to the image of country music. 356 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,206 Absolutely. 357 00:22:11,915 --> 00:22:13,458 ♪ What made you say that ♪ 358 00:22:13,541 --> 00:22:17,087 ♪ Was it the moonlight Was it the starlight in your eyes ♪ 359 00:22:17,170 --> 00:22:19,381 [song playing on phone] ♪ What made you say that ♪ 360 00:22:19,464 --> 00:22:22,467 I mean, I love it. Also she's just like 361 00:22:23,468 --> 00:22:25,678 feeling up on this super-hot, shirtless guy. 362 00:22:25,762 --> 00:22:30,392 Like, she's like, "I… I run this town, don't worry about it." [chuckles] 363 00:22:30,975 --> 00:22:35,105 And then, of course, Mutt. Mutt saw that video, and, um… 364 00:22:36,564 --> 00:22:38,817 That was a journey unto its own too. 365 00:22:39,317 --> 00:22:41,319 [rock music playing] 366 00:22:53,456 --> 00:22:56,126 [Mary] I say to Eilleen, there's this guy by the name of Mutt, 367 00:22:56,626 --> 00:22:59,504 he wants to talk to you about music. 368 00:22:59,587 --> 00:23:01,506 She said, "Mary, for God sakes." 369 00:23:01,589 --> 00:23:06,886 I said, "I don't know who he is. I think he's in music. He seems to know a lot." 370 00:23:06,970 --> 00:23:09,806 I don't know who this person is. I don't know his success yet. 371 00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:12,183 I just know that his name is Mutt Lange. 372 00:23:12,267 --> 00:23:14,769 I kind of thought Mutt was a strange name. I just… 373 00:23:15,687 --> 00:23:19,524 It was just funny. What kind of a name is Mutt? Mutt Lange. 374 00:23:19,607 --> 00:23:21,151 It was just so funny for me. 375 00:23:21,234 --> 00:23:23,820 I called him one night. It was one o'clock in the morning, 376 00:23:23,903 --> 00:23:26,990 and I think that it was about 6:00 in the morning for him. 377 00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:29,492 And we stayed on the phone for three hours. 378 00:23:29,576 --> 00:23:31,661 Our conversation lasted three hours. 379 00:23:32,162 --> 00:23:35,123 He was playing me some of his original music over the phone. 380 00:23:35,206 --> 00:23:37,584 And then I was singing to him over the phone. 381 00:23:37,667 --> 00:23:40,712 He said, "Listen, we really should get together and write." 382 00:23:40,795 --> 00:23:43,715 "This could be a cool thing 'cause I love country music so much." 383 00:23:43,798 --> 00:23:47,218 He says, "I love your voice, and I think it would be a cool combination." 384 00:23:47,302 --> 00:23:48,720 I didn't want to be 385 00:23:49,804 --> 00:23:50,763 too forward, 386 00:23:50,847 --> 00:23:52,765 but in my mind, I'm saying, 387 00:23:52,849 --> 00:23:54,851 [whispering] "Oh, wow, if this guy… 388 00:23:56,102 --> 00:23:58,396 [in normal voice] …made my music sound like that, 389 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,981 that would be the dream. Like… 390 00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:01,649 whoa." 391 00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:05,361 The first record that came out in 1993, I think, 392 00:24:06,404 --> 00:24:08,573 um, we didn't do very well with it. 393 00:24:08,656 --> 00:24:10,533 I think we put two singles, 394 00:24:10,617 --> 00:24:14,662 it went to 55 on the country chart, or something like that. 395 00:24:15,246 --> 00:24:17,332 She was perceived as another, kind of, 396 00:24:18,082 --> 00:24:21,211 female country wannabe, you know? 397 00:24:21,711 --> 00:24:24,797 [Shania] Lewis, the record label head, was like, "We need to have lunch." 398 00:24:24,881 --> 00:24:27,759 "We need to talk about what is going on here because 399 00:24:28,343 --> 00:24:32,764 you could get dropped at this point if you're not serious about this." 400 00:24:32,847 --> 00:24:36,893 "So you'd better prove to me that you're doing something really awesome." 401 00:24:39,395 --> 00:24:40,605 So I said, "Okay." 402 00:24:41,523 --> 00:24:44,817 "I'm working with this rock producer named Mutt Lange." 403 00:24:45,693 --> 00:24:48,780 Like, as if I had to confess something. [chuckles] 404 00:24:48,863 --> 00:24:51,449 It really felt like a confession, and… 405 00:24:54,077 --> 00:24:55,328 he was stunned. 406 00:24:56,829 --> 00:25:00,166 And said, like, probably, "Holy fuck," or something like that. 407 00:25:00,250 --> 00:25:05,880 And then I think… I was… I'm thinking it could be like, "Holy fuck… no way," 408 00:25:06,881 --> 00:25:09,092 or "Holy fuck, that's incredible." 409 00:25:10,218 --> 00:25:11,511 [clicks tongue] 410 00:25:11,594 --> 00:25:13,763 Thankfully, he thought it was incredible. 411 00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:17,433 Mutt, he was one of my heroes. The guy who produced Back in Black, 412 00:25:17,517 --> 00:25:20,770 and Def Leppard and stuff. Being a rock guy, I loved those things. 413 00:25:20,853 --> 00:25:24,691 I knew about him, and I knew a bit of his history. 414 00:25:25,233 --> 00:25:29,112 He was pretty well aware of country music more than anybody probably knew. 415 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,115 [man] And one, two, three… 416 00:25:32,699 --> 00:25:34,701 [country music playing] 417 00:25:39,664 --> 00:25:42,083 ♪ Mind if I sit down? ♪ 418 00:25:43,293 --> 00:25:46,129 ♪ Can I buy you a round? ♪ 419 00:25:47,130 --> 00:25:51,384 ♪ I haven't seen your face before ♪ 420 00:25:51,467 --> 00:25:53,386 ♪ Are you new in town? ♪ 421 00:25:55,388 --> 00:25:58,850 ♪ It's the same old line ♪ 422 00:25:59,434 --> 00:26:02,270 ♪ Oh every time ♪♪ 423 00:26:03,479 --> 00:26:07,483 ♪ Are you here alone? ♪ 424 00:26:07,567 --> 00:26:09,193 ♪ Can I take you home? ♪ 425 00:26:09,277 --> 00:26:13,865 The fact that I was now writing for the purpose of recording my own music 426 00:26:13,948 --> 00:26:16,075 was the dream. That was the dream. 427 00:26:16,159 --> 00:26:18,286 That was the dream that I went to Nashville 428 00:26:18,369 --> 00:26:20,913 hoping to find and didn't find it right away. 429 00:26:24,375 --> 00:26:28,671 I was super motivated and very inspired. 430 00:26:28,755 --> 00:26:33,426 You know, all of a sudden, now I've got Mutt, who's really into my ideas. 431 00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:36,429 At the very end, do you think you should just wait. 432 00:26:37,388 --> 00:26:40,475 Like, if I went, "I'm outta here." Beat. 433 00:26:40,558 --> 00:26:41,684 Just a beat between. 434 00:26:41,768 --> 00:26:44,395 We wrote the album very, very quickly. 435 00:26:44,479 --> 00:26:47,982 During that whole process, we got together and 436 00:26:48,066 --> 00:26:50,860 started a wonderful personal relationship. 437 00:26:51,444 --> 00:26:54,072 So, to put it all in a nutshell, 438 00:26:54,155 --> 00:26:55,948 we… we met, 439 00:26:56,616 --> 00:26:58,201 we fell in love, 440 00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:01,537 we're engaged, wrote an entire album, 441 00:27:02,288 --> 00:27:03,414 uh, all in six months. 442 00:27:03,498 --> 00:27:06,501 [chuckles] And married in that six months as well. 443 00:27:06,584 --> 00:27:10,296 So we did so much in a six-month period, it was a very intense time for me. 444 00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:12,340 Mutt listened to her, 445 00:27:12,423 --> 00:27:16,219 and then in turn knew how to make her 446 00:27:17,303 --> 00:27:22,016 louder. And knew how to bring out things of her that she hadn't brought out yet. 447 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,145 And so to find someone that you trust with that, 448 00:27:26,229 --> 00:27:29,941 and that, you know, not only isn't going to, like, judge you, 449 00:27:30,024 --> 00:27:31,734 but is going to help you shape it, 450 00:27:31,818 --> 00:27:34,904 to make it great, and make it unique, and make it you. 451 00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:37,865 That's why it's one of the greatest partnerships in music. 452 00:27:37,949 --> 00:27:42,412 You hear Shania be Shania with a megaphone. 453 00:27:43,162 --> 00:27:45,957 ♪ Whose bed have your boots been under? ♪ 454 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,834 [barking] 455 00:27:50,378 --> 00:27:53,589 ♪ Whose bed have your boots been under? ♪ 456 00:27:53,673 --> 00:27:57,135 And whose heart did you steal I wonder? 457 00:27:57,218 --> 00:28:02,056 ♪ This time did it feel Like thunder, baby? ♪ 458 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,018 ♪ Whose bed have your boots been under? ♪ 459 00:28:07,812 --> 00:28:09,897 I wanted to lead with "Any Man of Mine." 460 00:28:09,981 --> 00:28:13,276 I wanted that to be the first single off The Woman in Me album, 461 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,111 but everybody else agreed that 462 00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:18,197 "Whose Bed Have Your Boots Been Under?" would be the safest 463 00:28:18,281 --> 00:28:21,033 to lead with because it was more country-sounding, 464 00:28:21,117 --> 00:28:22,326 which was true. 465 00:28:23,244 --> 00:28:25,580 If I would've fought for it, I would've got it. 466 00:28:25,663 --> 00:28:27,665 They would have done it. I know. 467 00:28:28,166 --> 00:28:30,752 I wanted to kick the door down, you know what I'm saying? 468 00:28:30,835 --> 00:28:32,837 I didn't want to just shuffle through it. 469 00:28:33,755 --> 00:28:37,759 But I thought, this is a deeper album than one song. 470 00:28:37,842 --> 00:28:41,053 And I knew that when the public heard "Any Man of Mine," 471 00:28:41,137 --> 00:28:43,848 they would then get radio on side. 472 00:28:44,474 --> 00:28:48,895 Proof is in the pudding, kind of thing. I thought it was super strong. 473 00:28:48,978 --> 00:28:50,354 [audience clapping] 474 00:28:50,438 --> 00:28:52,523 [country music playing] 475 00:28:52,607 --> 00:28:53,941 ♪ Woo ♪ 476 00:28:55,693 --> 00:28:56,944 Yay! 477 00:28:58,613 --> 00:28:59,739 ♪ Woo ♪ 478 00:29:02,116 --> 00:29:05,161 ♪ Any man of mine better be proud of me ♪ 479 00:29:05,244 --> 00:29:08,247 ♪ Even when I'm ugly He still better love me ♪ 480 00:29:08,331 --> 00:29:11,209 ♪ I can be late for a date that's fine ♪ 481 00:29:11,292 --> 00:29:13,878 ♪ But he better be on time ♪ 482 00:29:14,378 --> 00:29:17,423 ♪ Well, any man of mine'll say It fits just right ♪ 483 00:29:17,507 --> 00:29:20,426 ♪ When last year's dress Is just a little too tight ♪ 484 00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:23,262 ♪ Anything I do or say better be okay ♪ 485 00:29:23,346 --> 00:29:25,598 ♪ When I have a bad hair day ♪ 486 00:29:25,681 --> 00:29:27,558 [Luke] If you do what I've done in my life, 487 00:29:27,642 --> 00:29:29,435 peddling records, basically, 488 00:29:30,019 --> 00:29:32,271 you know when you got one. 489 00:29:32,939 --> 00:29:35,274 You don't have to have golden ears or… 490 00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:37,276 be a genius. 491 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,986 You just know. 492 00:29:39,654 --> 00:29:43,241 Enough so that I could go to my boss in New York and say, 493 00:29:43,324 --> 00:29:46,953 "Hey, I'm going to spend more money than you're comfortable with on this 494 00:29:47,036 --> 00:29:48,704 'cause I think we got a huge one." 495 00:29:49,288 --> 00:29:50,122 ♪ Yeah ♪ 496 00:29:50,206 --> 00:29:53,960 ♪ Yeah, I like it that way ♪ 497 00:29:54,043 --> 00:29:57,171 ♪ Any man of mine ♪ 498 00:29:57,255 --> 00:29:59,674 ♪ Better walk the line ♪ 499 00:30:00,258 --> 00:30:02,176 ♪ Better show me a teasin'… ♪ 500 00:30:02,260 --> 00:30:03,511 [woman] She came to us… 501 00:30:03,594 --> 00:30:07,348 When I say us, my husband who's deceased now, John Derek, 502 00:30:07,932 --> 00:30:13,020 um, was known for his photography, especially when it came to women, 503 00:30:13,104 --> 00:30:14,772 and beautiful women. 504 00:30:14,856 --> 00:30:17,942 I said, "We're gonna shoot this girl. She sounds interesting." 505 00:30:18,025 --> 00:30:21,153 He said, "Is she beautiful?" I said, "Yeah, she looks beautiful." 506 00:30:24,031 --> 00:30:25,449 ♪ Woo ♪ 507 00:30:27,326 --> 00:30:29,078 ♪ Well any man of mine better… ♪ 508 00:30:29,161 --> 00:30:33,082 [Bo Derek] His process was so unusual, and a lot of girls couldn't take it. 509 00:30:33,666 --> 00:30:36,627 It was all about getting the beauty for him. 510 00:30:36,711 --> 00:30:42,383 And he didn't pussyfoot and talk around, trying not to hurt your feelings. 511 00:30:42,466 --> 00:30:46,178 He would really cut to the chase and say, "Uh, your nose is crooked." 512 00:30:46,262 --> 00:30:50,391 "And now I got to change all the lighting and the camera angle." 513 00:30:50,474 --> 00:30:54,729 If he were shooting me, he'd say, "Stop that, you look like you're smelling shit," 514 00:30:54,812 --> 00:30:57,398 or, "Your mouth looks like a chicken's ass," 515 00:30:57,481 --> 00:31:02,528 or, you know, whatever it is, which would send some girls home crying. 516 00:31:02,612 --> 00:31:04,447 And I thought, "Okay… 517 00:31:04,989 --> 00:31:07,992 you're going to have to get over this and take it and move on 518 00:31:08,075 --> 00:31:10,745 'cause there's a job to do, a video to make, 519 00:31:10,828 --> 00:31:12,121 and the sun is going down." 520 00:31:14,206 --> 00:31:16,584 ♪ He's gotta be a heartbeatin' Fine treatin' ♪ 521 00:31:16,667 --> 00:31:21,172 ♪ Breathtakin' earthquakin' kind ♪ 522 00:31:21,255 --> 00:31:26,135 ♪ Any man of mine, woo ♪ 523 00:31:27,637 --> 00:31:30,139 [Bo Derek] There was a funny moment on this, when 524 00:31:30,973 --> 00:31:34,894 John wanted her to do something kind of hokey and corny and she didn't want to. 525 00:31:34,977 --> 00:31:38,397 We were nose-to-nose at one point, arguing about this. 526 00:31:38,481 --> 00:31:40,358 He wasn't good at being told no. 527 00:31:40,441 --> 00:31:42,735 She was great. She really stood up for herself. 528 00:31:42,818 --> 00:31:45,029 And he could be a little difficult. 529 00:31:45,112 --> 00:31:48,532 I had a vision about how I wanted it to look, 530 00:31:48,616 --> 00:31:50,368 and how I wanted to present myself. 531 00:31:51,118 --> 00:31:54,330 [Bo Derek] She said, "This is my video. This is my money." 532 00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:55,998 "I'm going to get what I want." 533 00:31:56,082 --> 00:31:58,084 [Shania] That was actually a tense moment. 534 00:31:58,167 --> 00:32:01,128 I thought he was going to leave and quit the video at that point. 535 00:32:01,212 --> 00:32:04,256 Then he turned on the camera and said, "You want it, you got it." 536 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,593 He clicked the button and looked away. He was such a brat. 537 00:32:09,053 --> 00:32:11,722 ♪ Any man of mine ♪ 538 00:32:13,015 --> 00:32:13,891 ♪ Woo ♪ 539 00:32:13,975 --> 00:32:16,644 He respected me from that moment on more than I expected. 540 00:32:16,727 --> 00:32:19,855 And we had a wonderful friendship after that. [chuckles] 541 00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:22,775 [Bo Derek] That's a lesson it took me years to learn. 542 00:32:22,858 --> 00:32:24,402 That if you stand up for yourself, 543 00:32:24,485 --> 00:32:27,154 he'll fight you to the end and then respect you more. 544 00:32:27,238 --> 00:32:30,157 It's not an accident she became such a big star. 545 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,626 [Shania] I had a one-track mind as far as my career went. 546 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:45,339 And as the label started to realize that I was going to 547 00:32:45,423 --> 00:32:47,633 go the extra mile to make this work, 548 00:32:47,717 --> 00:32:50,886 they did pull together very hard and very well. 549 00:32:52,013 --> 00:32:57,184 They were used to a different pace, a different level of commitment. 550 00:32:57,268 --> 00:32:59,895 But I'm like, "This is do or die." 551 00:32:59,979 --> 00:33:02,606 We're not going to eat as much as we normally do, 552 00:33:02,690 --> 00:33:05,276 we're not going to sleep as much as we normally do. 553 00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:07,820 I'm still waking up. This isn't fair! 554 00:33:07,903 --> 00:33:09,030 -[laughs] -[cheering] 555 00:33:09,113 --> 00:33:11,741 Hey, this is Shania Twain. My new song is coming up soon, 556 00:33:11,824 --> 00:33:14,368 so keep it right here on the KISS FM top 30… 557 00:33:14,452 --> 00:33:17,496 Hits don't make themselves. Not consecutive ones. 558 00:33:17,580 --> 00:33:20,916 And videos certainly don't make themselves. [chuckles] 559 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,002 So, it's just so much work. 560 00:33:23,085 --> 00:33:23,919 Bye! 561 00:33:24,003 --> 00:33:26,630 I do remember Luke Lewis saying, "Listen…" 562 00:33:26,714 --> 00:33:29,925 "I think you should do your next video in Egypt." 563 00:33:30,009 --> 00:33:32,053 "In Cairo, at the Great Pyramids." 564 00:33:33,220 --> 00:33:34,638 I'm like, "What?" 565 00:33:35,347 --> 00:33:38,225 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 566 00:33:39,894 --> 00:33:42,480 I mean, this was a dream. It was surreal. 567 00:33:43,105 --> 00:33:44,356 [Luke] That wasn't cheap. 568 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,778 I'm still pissed I didn't go. I mean, you have no idea. [chuckles] 569 00:33:49,862 --> 00:33:53,282 They're riding horses around the pyramids, and I'm at home, going, 570 00:33:53,365 --> 00:33:54,992 "What the fuck am I doing?" 571 00:33:55,076 --> 00:34:01,040 ♪ 'Cause I'm a woman in love ♪ 572 00:34:03,084 --> 00:34:08,422 ♪ And it's you I run to ♪ 573 00:34:09,006 --> 00:34:11,425 ♪ Yeah, the woman ♪ 574 00:34:12,218 --> 00:34:13,803 ♪ In me ♪ 575 00:34:14,512 --> 00:34:19,266 ♪ Needs the man in you ♪ 576 00:34:21,644 --> 00:34:24,438 I'm telling you, this was an experience I will never forget. 577 00:34:25,689 --> 00:34:28,275 I sensed that that was the beginning of 578 00:34:28,359 --> 00:34:32,488 the chance to be truly competitive on a global scale. 579 00:34:33,531 --> 00:34:34,865 [Mary] There was no question. 580 00:34:34,949 --> 00:34:38,244 There was absolutely not a doubt in my mind that this album 581 00:34:38,327 --> 00:34:40,996 would change the face of country music. 582 00:34:41,789 --> 00:34:42,665 And it did. 583 00:34:43,165 --> 00:34:44,500 It absolutely did. 584 00:34:53,592 --> 00:34:58,472 Well, Shania Twain is without a doubt Canada's leading country music superstar. 585 00:34:59,056 --> 00:35:01,475 Is it exhausting, or is it exhilarating? 586 00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:03,519 It's exhilarating! Hi! 587 00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:06,188 Congratulations. That's yours. 588 00:35:06,272 --> 00:35:07,982 [chuckling] 589 00:35:08,065 --> 00:35:09,275 I'll take it! 590 00:35:09,358 --> 00:35:10,651 [audience clapping] 591 00:35:10,734 --> 00:35:13,654 [Shania] When The Woman in Me album took off, 592 00:35:13,737 --> 00:35:17,032 there was a deep sense of accomplishment. 593 00:35:17,116 --> 00:35:18,534 It felt really good. 594 00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:20,619 I'm excited about the way it's moving. 595 00:35:20,703 --> 00:35:23,205 It's, it's, uh… It's not running away from me, 596 00:35:23,289 --> 00:35:25,958 but at the same time I'm thinking, "Wow, slow down." 597 00:35:26,041 --> 00:35:28,836 "I just want to enjoy this a little bit." You know? 598 00:35:29,420 --> 00:35:32,756 Maybe because it's happening so fast, I'm not absorbing it. 599 00:35:33,883 --> 00:35:36,260 But it is the wildest thing, I gotta say. 600 00:35:36,343 --> 00:35:38,012 It's the coolest thing. 601 00:35:38,095 --> 00:35:39,930 [cheering] 602 00:35:40,014 --> 00:35:40,890 Hello. 603 00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:46,103 It's my first platinum party, so I don't know what to expect. 604 00:35:46,187 --> 00:35:49,315 Thank you all, again. This is really special for us, I can't tell you. 605 00:35:49,398 --> 00:35:51,692 -Thank you for joining us here. -Thank you! 606 00:35:51,775 --> 00:35:54,862 [reporter] Tonight, Canada's country sweetheart was given a diamond award 607 00:35:54,945 --> 00:35:56,405 for her country sales. 608 00:35:56,488 --> 00:35:59,491 Hot on the heels of her Grammy win last week. 609 00:35:59,575 --> 00:36:01,577 But the awards don't stop there. 610 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:06,123 The album of the year is, The Woman in Me, Shania Twain! 611 00:36:06,207 --> 00:36:09,460 Wow, I wasn't expecting that at all. Yes! 612 00:36:09,543 --> 00:36:12,254 "Whose Bed Have Your Boots Been Under?" 613 00:36:12,338 --> 00:36:13,214 Shania Twain. 614 00:36:13,297 --> 00:36:14,798 "Any Man of Mine," Shania Twain! 615 00:36:14,882 --> 00:36:16,258 -Shania Twain! -Yes! 616 00:36:16,342 --> 00:36:17,593 Shania Twain! 617 00:36:17,676 --> 00:36:18,886 [audience cheering] 618 00:36:18,969 --> 00:36:21,639 I'd like to start with the two people that have worked 619 00:36:22,181 --> 00:36:23,933 harder than anyone 620 00:36:25,476 --> 00:36:27,269 to get me where I am today, 621 00:36:27,770 --> 00:36:29,230 and that are my parents. 622 00:36:29,939 --> 00:36:31,941 They aren't with us anymore, but… 623 00:36:32,024 --> 00:36:33,108 [audience clapping] 624 00:36:33,192 --> 00:36:36,237 …they sacrificed the most to get me where I am today. 625 00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:39,448 [Mary] Shania sold, 626 00:36:39,531 --> 00:36:43,661 in less than six months, over six and a half million albums. 627 00:36:43,744 --> 00:36:45,412 I mean, that is just… 628 00:36:46,747 --> 00:36:49,250 unbelievable at that time. 629 00:36:49,333 --> 00:36:50,334 Unbelievable. 630 00:36:51,418 --> 00:36:53,170 I mean, it was like, 631 00:36:53,254 --> 00:36:54,588 "Holy moly." 632 00:36:55,422 --> 00:36:57,675 You had to run to keep up. 633 00:36:57,758 --> 00:36:59,009 You had to run. 634 00:36:59,093 --> 00:37:01,345 I'm overwhelmed, I can't tell you. 635 00:37:01,428 --> 00:37:04,181 -[audience cheering] -[chuckling] 636 00:37:04,974 --> 00:37:07,309 [Mary] It just got to be too much. 637 00:37:09,436 --> 00:37:11,438 [soft guitar playing] 638 00:37:18,237 --> 00:37:20,739 [Shania] You know, I was alone so young, 639 00:37:20,823 --> 00:37:26,120 and so I spent all of my twenties with Mary as a guide in my life, 640 00:37:26,203 --> 00:37:28,497 and on a personal level too. 641 00:37:29,790 --> 00:37:31,959 So it makes it difficult to 642 00:37:32,793 --> 00:37:35,838 say goodbye to an element of your relationship, 643 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,716 uh, which is what we were doing. 644 00:37:39,341 --> 00:37:41,302 But I also knew that I… 645 00:37:42,428 --> 00:37:45,306 That everything that even her and I had worked together for, 646 00:37:45,389 --> 00:37:47,850 there was so much more to come of it. 647 00:37:47,933 --> 00:37:49,810 I'm not even nearly there yet. 648 00:37:49,893 --> 00:37:53,063 It's great, but it's only great for country. 649 00:37:53,897 --> 00:37:56,108 It's not great compared to Michael Jackson. 650 00:37:56,191 --> 00:37:59,737 It's not great compared to The Rolling Stones. 651 00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:03,032 I needed to go much further down the road. 652 00:38:14,293 --> 00:38:16,587 She interviewed quite a few people, 653 00:38:16,670 --> 00:38:19,173 or a handful of people when she was looking. 654 00:38:19,882 --> 00:38:21,550 But when she asked me about Jon, 655 00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:26,221 I'd been at CBS forever and worked Springsteen records from way back, 656 00:38:26,305 --> 00:38:27,931 from the first two records. 657 00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:30,392 And I'd seen him in action. 658 00:38:31,060 --> 00:38:35,105 [man] She wanted somebody who was a superstar manager, 659 00:38:35,189 --> 00:38:37,107 and it turned out the reason why was 660 00:38:37,191 --> 00:38:40,486 she was planning on being a bigger superstar than she was. 661 00:38:40,569 --> 00:38:43,822 We had to meet in person and make sure that that was a click, 662 00:38:43,906 --> 00:38:47,493 but just the fact that, even after the first reach out, he was 663 00:38:47,576 --> 00:38:50,788 open to the idea, really, really excited me. 664 00:38:51,955 --> 00:38:53,874 [Jon] Well, we clicked right away. 665 00:38:54,583 --> 00:38:56,085 And I said, 666 00:38:56,168 --> 00:39:01,006 "There is nothing we can add to what you have done in the world of country." 667 00:39:01,090 --> 00:39:03,759 "But what do you really want? What… How can we help?" 668 00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:06,387 So she said there were three things. 669 00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:08,389 She wanted to cross over to pop, 670 00:39:09,556 --> 00:39:13,435 she wanted to be an international superstar, 671 00:39:14,019 --> 00:39:19,066 and she wanted to be an absolutely top touring artist. 672 00:39:20,067 --> 00:39:24,571 Those three goals, clear as a bell, first time I talked to her. 673 00:39:24,655 --> 00:39:25,906 And I said, "Well…" 674 00:39:27,366 --> 00:39:28,909 "I think we can help there." 675 00:39:30,244 --> 00:39:32,246 [band practicing] 676 00:39:36,542 --> 00:39:39,253 [Shania] I was reminded by everyone, 677 00:39:39,336 --> 00:39:43,173 basically, that there was a lot of money not being made 678 00:39:43,257 --> 00:39:46,343 by not going on tour after The Woman in Me was out. 679 00:39:46,427 --> 00:39:48,720 She left a lot of money on the table. 680 00:39:48,804 --> 00:39:50,722 She could have gone out behind that record 681 00:39:50,806 --> 00:39:52,933 and spent another two years touring behind it. 682 00:39:53,016 --> 00:39:57,146 I knew that getting out on the road was only going to 683 00:39:57,229 --> 00:40:00,232 distract me from writing better songs. 684 00:40:00,315 --> 00:40:04,862 I'm thinking, I need to use this time. 685 00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:06,947 Reflect. 686 00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:08,031 Write more songs. 687 00:40:08,615 --> 00:40:12,035 I can't even say that I was right about that decision. It was just a risk, 688 00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:13,537 but it was strategic. 689 00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:17,833 I had to get busy writing enough hits that, 690 00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:23,964 on the next album, I would be able to do a whole concert of all my own songs. 691 00:40:24,548 --> 00:40:26,550 [upbeat music playing] 692 00:40:32,598 --> 00:40:35,809 ♪ You're so complicated ♪ 693 00:40:36,351 --> 00:40:40,522 ♪ You hang over my shoulder When I read my mail ♪ 694 00:40:40,606 --> 00:40:43,609 ♪ I don't appreciate it ♪ 695 00:40:44,193 --> 00:40:45,903 ♪ When I talk to other guys ♪ 696 00:40:45,986 --> 00:40:48,530 ♪ You think they're on my tail ♪ 697 00:40:52,284 --> 00:40:55,287 ♪ I get so aggravated ♪ 698 00:40:55,871 --> 00:40:57,998 ♪ When I get off the phone ♪ 699 00:40:58,081 --> 00:40:59,833 ♪ And I get the third degree ♪ 700 00:40:59,917 --> 00:41:03,295 ♪ I'm really feelin' frustrated ♪ 701 00:41:03,378 --> 00:41:05,339 ♪ Why don't you take a pill? ♪ 702 00:41:05,422 --> 00:41:07,466 ♪ And put a little trust in me ♪ 703 00:41:07,549 --> 00:41:08,509 ♪ And you'll see ♪ 704 00:41:08,592 --> 00:41:10,969 That sounds a lot, a lot better. Yeah. 705 00:41:11,053 --> 00:41:12,930 Oh, yeah. A lot better. Sounds great. 706 00:41:13,013 --> 00:41:14,515 ♪ Relax ♪ 707 00:41:15,974 --> 00:41:17,726 When it just feels great? 708 00:41:17,809 --> 00:41:20,270 [cheering] 709 00:41:20,354 --> 00:41:22,105 [Shania] Thank you! 710 00:41:22,189 --> 00:41:24,191 [chuckling] 711 00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:30,280 I could sense that there was an energy stirring. 712 00:41:30,864 --> 00:41:33,784 ♪ I don't need a shrink To tell me what to think ♪ 713 00:41:33,867 --> 00:41:36,370 ♪ There ain't no missing link In my love life ♪ 714 00:41:36,453 --> 00:41:37,955 ♪ It's all right ♪ 715 00:41:38,455 --> 00:41:40,874 ♪ Huh, I ain't that uptight ♪ 716 00:41:40,958 --> 00:41:43,835 I did a lot of the melody writing on my own, and then… 717 00:41:43,919 --> 00:41:47,005 It was really a tag team thing, to be honest, I mean. 718 00:41:47,089 --> 00:41:50,801 We'd both sit there with our guitars and jam around the chord progressions. 719 00:41:50,884 --> 00:41:54,221 He always kept ledgers of lyrics, 720 00:41:54,304 --> 00:41:57,349 so it was loaded with all kinds of really cool lyrics. 721 00:41:57,432 --> 00:41:59,643 I would feed off those ideas. 722 00:41:59,726 --> 00:42:04,273 I would come up with these one-liners and then just carry on telling the story. 723 00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:06,858 ♪ So I'm holdin' on ♪ 724 00:42:06,942 --> 00:42:08,110 ♪ I'm feelin' strong ♪ 725 00:42:08,193 --> 00:42:12,906 ♪ Baby, you're the one for all my life ♪ 726 00:42:12,990 --> 00:42:14,700 How was that, Mutt? 727 00:42:14,783 --> 00:42:16,201 [laughing] 728 00:42:16,285 --> 00:42:18,328 Okay, one more time. 729 00:42:18,412 --> 00:42:20,998 ♪ … All my life ♪ 730 00:42:21,081 --> 00:42:24,084 [man] Shania Twain is an incredibly hard worker, 731 00:42:24,167 --> 00:42:27,421 and a wonderful artist, wonderful songwriter. 732 00:42:28,714 --> 00:42:29,840 [shouts] 733 00:42:30,674 --> 00:42:32,759 Close, but no cigar. 734 00:42:32,843 --> 00:42:38,348 I just kind of see her as an all-around human being, person-wise, you know? 735 00:42:39,266 --> 00:42:42,978 She's down-to-earth, but, yet, when she comes into a room 736 00:42:43,061 --> 00:42:45,188 she kind of draws everybody's attention. 737 00:42:46,481 --> 00:42:49,151 "Wow, she's… She looks like a star." 738 00:42:49,234 --> 00:42:50,611 [laughing] 739 00:42:50,694 --> 00:42:54,239 Look at him. You gotta feel it, man. You gotta be like… 740 00:42:54,323 --> 00:42:56,908 -[man] I really tried hard on that one. -[laughing] 741 00:42:56,992 --> 00:42:59,077 -I swear, man. -[woman] That was hysterical! 742 00:42:59,161 --> 00:43:00,662 [man] I know I rushed it too. 743 00:43:00,746 --> 00:43:02,664 [laughing] 744 00:43:03,957 --> 00:43:04,958 [car honks] 745 00:43:05,042 --> 00:43:06,376 [sirens blaring] 746 00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:09,379 [Jon] One night, we were both in New York City together, 747 00:43:10,047 --> 00:43:11,840 and they sat there, 748 00:43:12,466 --> 00:43:14,301 and they had a boombox 749 00:43:14,384 --> 00:43:17,512 with all the tracks for what became Come on Over. 750 00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:20,098 And they sang it to me right there. 751 00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:22,059 They played the track. 752 00:43:22,142 --> 00:43:23,185 She would sing. 753 00:43:23,268 --> 00:43:26,271 Mutt sings the harmonies, which he does a lot on the records. 754 00:43:26,355 --> 00:43:27,814 They went through the whole album. 755 00:43:28,398 --> 00:43:30,400 [Mutt] ♪ From this moment on ♪ 756 00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:33,820 ♪ I have been blessed ♪ 757 00:43:33,904 --> 00:43:37,449 [Shania] ♪ I live only ♪ 758 00:43:38,241 --> 00:43:40,869 ♪ For your happiness ♪ 759 00:43:40,952 --> 00:43:43,413 [Mutt] ♪ And for your love ♪ 760 00:43:43,497 --> 00:43:47,417 [Mutt and Shania] ♪ I'd give my last breath ♪ 761 00:43:47,501 --> 00:43:53,173 ♪ From this moment on ♪ 762 00:43:54,257 --> 00:43:57,094 I was shaking, 'cause… [chuckles] 763 00:43:57,177 --> 00:43:58,178 Two things. 764 00:43:59,513 --> 00:44:01,473 This is fabulous music. 765 00:44:01,556 --> 00:44:03,308 This cannot miss. 766 00:44:03,975 --> 00:44:05,852 Cannot miss, okay? 767 00:44:06,478 --> 00:44:08,897 To my ear, and I'm pretty good at this, 768 00:44:09,564 --> 00:44:11,024 every song was a hit. 769 00:44:11,775 --> 00:44:14,277 [chuckles] It was just as simple as that, you know? 770 00:44:14,986 --> 00:44:17,864 So, uh, we started to roll. 771 00:44:17,948 --> 00:44:19,241 We started to roll. 772 00:44:20,826 --> 00:44:22,411 [electric guitar playing] 773 00:44:22,494 --> 00:44:23,578 ♪ Hm… ♪ 774 00:44:28,375 --> 00:44:29,376 ♪ Ah… ♪ 775 00:44:36,717 --> 00:44:39,845 ♪ Life was going great Love was gonna have to wait ♪ 776 00:44:39,928 --> 00:44:41,513 ♪ Was in no hurry ♪ 777 00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:47,144 [reporter] Shania Twain's last album sold more than 12 million copies worldwide. 778 00:44:47,686 --> 00:44:51,982 This is the first single off her new CD, called Come On Over. 779 00:44:52,065 --> 00:44:54,818 This album is much more directly what I really think and feel, 780 00:44:54,901 --> 00:44:56,153 and how I would say things. 781 00:44:56,236 --> 00:45:00,198 I think that happened because I wanted to take a very conversational approach. 782 00:45:00,282 --> 00:45:02,659 ♪ Gol' darn gone and done it ♪ 783 00:45:03,577 --> 00:45:04,578 ♪ Gone and done it ♪ 784 00:45:05,412 --> 00:45:06,455 ♪ Gone and done it ♪ 785 00:45:07,038 --> 00:45:08,373 ♪ Guess I fell in love ♪ 786 00:45:08,915 --> 00:45:12,544 [reporter] If you're expecting a collection of slow-paced cowboy ballads, 787 00:45:12,627 --> 00:45:14,671 you won't find them on this disc, 788 00:45:14,755 --> 00:45:18,717 but you will find lots of love songs and songs about relationships. 789 00:45:20,177 --> 00:45:24,222 [Shania] Well, what changed between The Woman in Me and Come on Over, 790 00:45:24,306 --> 00:45:25,974 really more than anything, 791 00:45:26,057 --> 00:45:27,100 the intention. 792 00:45:27,184 --> 00:45:33,148 And the intention was to now graduate from a domestic success 793 00:45:34,191 --> 00:45:35,650 to a global success. 794 00:45:35,734 --> 00:45:37,194 [cheering, clapping] 795 00:45:37,277 --> 00:45:42,657 [Shania] And that was going to mean making the music move more into a poppier sound. 796 00:45:42,741 --> 00:45:45,327 ["You're Still The One" playing] 797 00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:48,622 [vocalizing] 798 00:45:49,372 --> 00:45:52,375 ♪ Looks like we made it ♪ 799 00:45:52,459 --> 00:45:56,379 ♪ Look how far we've come my baby ♪ 800 00:45:56,463 --> 00:45:59,633 ♪ We mighta took the long way ♪ 801 00:45:59,716 --> 00:46:01,009 ♪ We knew… ♪ 802 00:46:01,092 --> 00:46:04,679 Putting out "You're Still the One," I remember thinking 803 00:46:04,763 --> 00:46:06,598 this is a big risk. 804 00:46:06,681 --> 00:46:09,518 This will be the first ballad off this album, 805 00:46:09,601 --> 00:46:12,395 and my biggest hits so far have been upbeat. 806 00:46:12,479 --> 00:46:15,273 And I knew it was a make-it-or-break-it moment. 807 00:46:15,357 --> 00:46:19,736 I thought, if this as a ballad doesn't work, 808 00:46:19,820 --> 00:46:22,697 I thought that could be that could be it, you know. 809 00:46:23,698 --> 00:46:25,283 ♪ You're still the one ♪ 810 00:46:25,367 --> 00:46:28,453 ♪ You're still the one I run to ♪ 811 00:46:28,537 --> 00:46:32,082 ♪ The one that I belong to ♪ 812 00:46:32,165 --> 00:46:37,170 ♪ You're still the one I want for life ♪ 813 00:46:38,088 --> 00:46:39,506 ♪ You're still the one ♪ 814 00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:42,926 ♪ You're still the one that I love ♪ 815 00:46:43,009 --> 00:46:46,429 ♪ The only one I dream of ♪ 816 00:46:46,513 --> 00:46:52,143 ♪ You're still the one I kiss goodnight ♪ 817 00:46:54,104 --> 00:46:57,816 It was a powerful song that people bonded to… 818 00:46:58,984 --> 00:47:00,402 and reminisced to. 819 00:47:00,485 --> 00:47:05,657 And yeah, I can't say that I realized how powerful that… And how… 820 00:47:06,241 --> 00:47:08,410 attached people would become to… 821 00:47:09,286 --> 00:47:11,204 to the meaning of that song in their lives. 822 00:47:11,872 --> 00:47:16,084 "You're Still the One" applies very much to… 823 00:47:17,794 --> 00:47:18,879 to my life, 824 00:47:19,421 --> 00:47:20,255 Uh… 825 00:47:20,797 --> 00:47:22,173 in the sense that I think… 826 00:47:23,174 --> 00:47:26,511 my marriage, my relationship with my husband, 827 00:47:27,554 --> 00:47:30,307 was something that I think, most people thought was unlikely 828 00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:32,851 or unlikely to succeed. [chuckles] 829 00:47:33,435 --> 00:47:36,855 Well, when I wrote the song, I was thinking, uh… 830 00:47:36,938 --> 00:47:40,817 the age gap between Mutt and I, the world gap, the culture gap. 831 00:47:41,484 --> 00:47:46,448 And I really did feel that a lot of people didn't believe… in it. 832 00:47:46,531 --> 00:47:50,660 Um, I… I sensed that in interviews journalists would 833 00:47:50,744 --> 00:47:54,956 refer to him as a Svengali and, you know, how could all of this 834 00:47:55,540 --> 00:47:56,917 phenomenal stuff 835 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,127 come out of this girl from nowhere? 836 00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:01,129 I guess they just didn't believe it. 837 00:48:01,212 --> 00:48:03,882 [interviewer] There have been a lot of questions lately about how much 838 00:48:03,965 --> 00:48:07,427 you owe your success to the way he packaged you. 839 00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:08,762 How do you respond to that? 840 00:48:08,845 --> 00:48:11,222 It's a real partnership between you and your husband. 841 00:48:11,306 --> 00:48:15,810 Tell us about that relationship, and how he helps you with your career. 842 00:48:15,894 --> 00:48:18,229 Of course, if I had been a guy, 843 00:48:18,313 --> 00:48:20,649 it just would not have been seen the same way. 844 00:48:20,732 --> 00:48:22,609 It's a sexist point of view. 845 00:48:22,692 --> 00:48:24,527 There's no question about it. 846 00:48:24,611 --> 00:48:27,822 You can't take away his contribution for a minute. 847 00:48:27,906 --> 00:48:29,532 You know? Not for a minute. 848 00:48:30,158 --> 00:48:34,663 But, listen, it was collaborative from the get-go. 849 00:48:35,246 --> 00:48:38,208 And I think he would… If you could get him to speak to it, 850 00:48:38,291 --> 00:48:41,252 and I don't know that he ever would, he would say the same thing. 851 00:48:41,336 --> 00:48:43,630 Creating another great work, 852 00:48:44,506 --> 00:48:46,925 to me, was the proof in the pudding 853 00:48:47,717 --> 00:48:52,013 that this was just a really genuine and authentic relationship 854 00:48:52,097 --> 00:48:55,558 that had nothing fake or strained about it. 855 00:48:55,642 --> 00:49:01,356 ♪ Look how far we've come my baby ♪ 856 00:49:03,358 --> 00:49:07,195 [Jon] Well, "You're Still the One" was rising like a rocket. 857 00:49:07,278 --> 00:49:09,280 I mean, that song was a pop hit. 858 00:49:09,781 --> 00:49:13,076 But there was another fact with Shania, which is 859 00:49:14,035 --> 00:49:18,164 her creative sense, visually, was spectacular. 860 00:49:18,748 --> 00:49:22,836 And so when you make a single, you make a video. 861 00:49:23,628 --> 00:49:26,715 And the videos were dynamite. 862 00:49:26,798 --> 00:49:28,717 [rock music playing] 863 00:49:31,803 --> 00:49:32,887 ♪ Aw ♪ 864 00:49:32,971 --> 00:49:36,391 [man] I used to always watch her videos and just thought she was awesome. 865 00:49:36,474 --> 00:49:39,811 She was one of the few artists that was able to really cross over on… 866 00:49:39,894 --> 00:49:42,063 She had some of her videos on MTV 2 as well, 867 00:49:42,147 --> 00:49:45,025 not just only on CMT on the Country Countdown, 868 00:49:45,108 --> 00:49:47,485 but she was an artist that really crossed over, 869 00:49:47,569 --> 00:49:49,195 and, uh, she was beautiful. 870 00:49:49,946 --> 00:49:52,574 Everybody wanted her to be their girlfriend. 871 00:49:52,657 --> 00:49:56,036 She was, like, the… America's most wanted female. 872 00:49:56,119 --> 00:49:58,079 You know, with all her videos, 873 00:49:58,163 --> 00:50:02,375 uh, we had great directors, and when it was done with the shoot, 874 00:50:02,459 --> 00:50:04,461 she would just say, "Send the footage to me." 875 00:50:04,544 --> 00:50:06,129 She edited them all herself. 876 00:50:06,629 --> 00:50:08,006 She knew what she wanted. 877 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,508 ♪ You think you're special ♪ 878 00:50:12,594 --> 00:50:15,263 ♪ You think you're something else ♪ 879 00:50:15,346 --> 00:50:17,348 ♪ Okay, so you're a rocket scientist ♪ 880 00:50:17,932 --> 00:50:20,268 ♪ That don't impress me much ♪ 881 00:50:20,351 --> 00:50:24,689 With music videos, I'm always trying to do something new and different. 882 00:50:24,773 --> 00:50:27,275 I like stepping into different personas, 883 00:50:27,358 --> 00:50:29,569 but they've always gotta work for me. 884 00:50:30,487 --> 00:50:31,321 So… 885 00:50:32,447 --> 00:50:35,325 I guess I start with just how I want to look. 886 00:50:36,409 --> 00:50:38,870 ♪ That don't impress me much ♪ 887 00:50:38,953 --> 00:50:42,707 I would always gravitate toward the leopard print, in any color. 888 00:50:42,791 --> 00:50:44,375 Oh, and I wanted midriff. 889 00:50:45,126 --> 00:50:46,753 It had to have midriff, this video. 890 00:50:47,337 --> 00:50:50,381 I wanted it to be kind of sporty-sexy. 891 00:50:50,465 --> 00:50:51,466 Glam. 892 00:50:51,549 --> 00:50:54,761 [man] I know that Shania loved leopard, and I loved leopard print myself. 893 00:50:54,844 --> 00:50:58,556 So, we decided to do a complete leopard look. 894 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,183 She used fashion, 895 00:51:00,266 --> 00:51:03,937 and clothing, and costumes very much to her benefit, 896 00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:05,814 because she created, 897 00:51:05,897 --> 00:51:09,109 you know, some of the most iconic looks ever. 898 00:51:09,192 --> 00:51:11,194 ♪ Okay, so you're Brad Pitt ♪ 899 00:51:11,277 --> 00:51:13,655 ♪ That don't impress me much ♪ 900 00:51:13,738 --> 00:51:15,740 [vocalizing] 901 00:51:15,824 --> 00:51:20,245 She really played with fashion in music videos, 902 00:51:20,328 --> 00:51:24,541 and she really played with being confident in her body as a woman. 903 00:51:24,624 --> 00:51:28,211 The way that she owns her own sexuality in that video 904 00:51:28,294 --> 00:51:29,838 is very feminist. 905 00:51:29,921 --> 00:51:34,467 You know, it was Shania walking through this expanse in the desert, 906 00:51:34,551 --> 00:51:39,097 addressing the entire, sort of, patriarchy, I guess, 907 00:51:39,180 --> 00:51:42,725 but in a way that didn't feel heavily politicized 908 00:51:42,809 --> 00:51:44,310 or angry. 909 00:51:44,394 --> 00:51:46,563 It was… It was celebratory. 910 00:51:46,646 --> 00:51:50,316 ♪ You're one of those guys That likes to shine his machine ♪ 911 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,237 ♪ You'll make me take off my shoes Before you let me get in ♪ 912 00:51:54,821 --> 00:51:56,781 For some reason, during that time, 913 00:51:56,865 --> 00:51:59,742 I don't know, I just enjoyed singing with attitude, 914 00:51:59,826 --> 00:52:03,121 singing about being a strong woman. 915 00:52:03,204 --> 00:52:06,541 It's part of my personality. It really is my genuine personality. 916 00:52:06,624 --> 00:52:08,751 So, I have my point of view, 917 00:52:09,419 --> 00:52:11,004 I want to get it across. 918 00:52:11,087 --> 00:52:12,964 I expect to get it across, 919 00:52:13,882 --> 00:52:17,468 but I am not out to piss anybody off in the process. 920 00:52:17,552 --> 00:52:20,638 ♪ That don't impress me… ♪ 921 00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:25,852 So, to me, Shania Twain is an epic country singer. 922 00:52:25,935 --> 00:52:27,854 Her songs are relatable. 923 00:52:27,937 --> 00:52:28,938 She writes. 924 00:52:29,022 --> 00:52:33,860 She writes about being a woman from a woman's perspective. 925 00:52:33,943 --> 00:52:37,947 You know, anything from, like, being the one, to having a bad hair day, 926 00:52:38,031 --> 00:52:40,658 to a dress not fitting, to… 927 00:52:40,742 --> 00:52:43,203 needing a cold one after a hard day of work, 928 00:52:44,287 --> 00:52:46,289 which is something I can relate to. 929 00:52:46,789 --> 00:52:53,129 [Kelsea] I think that Shania takes these universal ideas of love, 930 00:52:53,213 --> 00:52:55,048 and of confidence, 931 00:52:55,131 --> 00:52:57,508 and of discovering who you are as a young woman, 932 00:52:57,592 --> 00:53:01,679 and of the push and pull of bad days and good days in life, 933 00:53:01,763 --> 00:53:05,642 and all these things that are universal topics for songwriting, 934 00:53:05,725 --> 00:53:09,187 and she makes them sound like they've never been written about before. 935 00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:12,941 There's something about, like… Of course, there's all these songs 936 00:53:13,024 --> 00:53:16,194 about feeling good as an empowered woman, 937 00:53:17,403 --> 00:53:19,614 but then there's "Man! I Feel Like a Woman!" 938 00:53:19,697 --> 00:53:23,076 You know what I mean? Like, it's just, that's the song. 939 00:53:26,037 --> 00:53:26,996 ♪ Let's go, girls ♪ 940 00:53:29,999 --> 00:53:31,042 ♪ Come on ♪ 941 00:53:31,125 --> 00:53:33,127 [upbeat music playing] 942 00:53:34,212 --> 00:53:37,632 Shania Twain brought a rebel spirit to the genre 943 00:53:37,715 --> 00:53:40,385 that hadn't existed for a couple of decades. 944 00:53:40,468 --> 00:53:44,347 Even just the fun of that line, "Let's go, girls," 945 00:53:44,430 --> 00:53:46,182 that's her rallying cry. 946 00:53:46,266 --> 00:53:47,392 Like, come join me. 947 00:53:47,475 --> 00:53:48,810 Come be part of my gang. 948 00:53:48,893 --> 00:53:50,979 Come do things the way that I do things. 949 00:53:51,062 --> 00:53:54,190 Don't be shamed into not expressing yourself 950 00:53:54,274 --> 00:53:57,277 because you're a beautiful woman who might be too much for someone. 951 00:53:58,945 --> 00:54:01,739 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, go totally crazy ♪ 952 00:54:01,823 --> 00:54:03,574 ♪ Forget I'm a lady ♪ 953 00:54:03,658 --> 00:54:06,077 ♪ Men's shirts, short skirts ♪ 954 00:54:06,661 --> 00:54:07,745 ♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪ 955 00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:09,747 ♪ Really go wild, yeah ♪ 956 00:54:09,831 --> 00:54:11,958 ♪ Doin' it in style ♪ 957 00:54:12,041 --> 00:54:15,253 Well, "Man! I Feel Like a Woman!" is pretty self-explanatory 958 00:54:15,336 --> 00:54:17,463 in the sense that it's… 959 00:54:18,006 --> 00:54:18,840 [clicks tongue] 960 00:54:18,923 --> 00:54:21,342 It's obviously and expression, you know, "Man!" 961 00:54:21,968 --> 00:54:24,595 "It's great to be a woman today. Now." 962 00:54:26,556 --> 00:54:29,350 ♪ Man! I feel like a woman ♪ 963 00:54:31,978 --> 00:54:34,605 So it's really just a celebration song. It's… 964 00:54:35,148 --> 00:54:38,443 I hate to come from the angry feminist standpoint 965 00:54:38,526 --> 00:54:40,611 when I write about these things. 966 00:54:41,195 --> 00:54:46,284 And I like to have fun with the fact that, "Yeah, um, I like to write about…" 967 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,413 I wouldn't say the battle of the sexes, but I like to write about 968 00:54:50,496 --> 00:54:52,749 the differences and the fun in the differences. 969 00:54:52,832 --> 00:54:55,084 So this is just one of those songs, and so… 970 00:54:55,168 --> 00:54:57,503 Hey, it's great to be, uh, a woman today 971 00:54:57,587 --> 00:55:00,882 and raise your voice and have some fun doing it. 972 00:55:04,302 --> 00:55:07,263 -[Shania shouts] -Yeah! With the spiral and everything. 973 00:55:11,893 --> 00:55:13,603 [vocalizing] 974 00:55:18,775 --> 00:55:20,109 ♪ The car won't start ♪ 975 00:55:20,193 --> 00:55:21,486 ♪ It's falling apart ♪ 976 00:55:21,569 --> 00:55:24,655 ♪ I was late for work And the boss got smart ♪ 977 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,202 She's one of the top female artists in country and pop, 978 00:55:29,285 --> 00:55:31,746 and Shania Twain isn't slowing down at all. 979 00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:33,039 In fairness… 980 00:55:34,665 --> 00:55:35,875 there were a lot of hits. 981 00:55:35,958 --> 00:55:38,753 We just had the hits. The hits just kept on coming. 982 00:55:38,836 --> 00:55:42,924 We would have stopped if we were not succeeding, you know? 983 00:55:43,007 --> 00:55:44,509 I mean, it just kept rolling. 984 00:55:45,468 --> 00:55:48,262 ♪ Hey, hey… ♪ 985 00:55:50,223 --> 00:55:52,058 ♪ Honey, I'm home… ♪ 986 00:55:52,141 --> 00:55:54,352 [Luke] I don't know that there's that many albums to have 987 00:55:54,435 --> 00:55:56,437 that many hit songs on them. 988 00:55:57,522 --> 00:56:00,316 I'm pretty sure we charted 12 singles. 989 00:56:01,776 --> 00:56:06,906 That's a lot of great songs on one record. That's a good deal if you're a consumer. 990 00:56:07,407 --> 00:56:09,450 You know? That's a really good deal. 991 00:56:09,534 --> 00:56:10,952 It's a better album. 992 00:56:11,744 --> 00:56:12,995 Come On Over. 993 00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:14,914 The Woman in Me's a great album. 994 00:56:14,997 --> 00:56:16,582 Come On Over is so… 995 00:56:17,583 --> 00:56:20,711 You know, is once in a lifetime. 996 00:56:25,883 --> 00:56:28,177 [sighs] ♪ That feels much better ♪ 997 00:56:30,138 --> 00:56:32,974 She desperately wanted to go on tour 998 00:56:33,057 --> 00:56:35,143 because there'd been that undercurrent 999 00:56:35,226 --> 00:56:37,645 because she hadn't toured on The Woman In Me, 1000 00:56:37,728 --> 00:56:40,356 you know, "Can she really do it?" etcetera, etcetera… 1001 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,151 [country music playing] 1002 00:56:43,234 --> 00:56:44,610 ♪ Cool ♪ 1003 00:56:46,487 --> 00:56:48,406 [audience cheering] 1004 00:56:49,615 --> 00:56:52,869 [Shania] Well, because I had waited quite a long time to tour, 1005 00:56:52,952 --> 00:56:55,955 I felt the pressure to make this great. 1006 00:56:56,038 --> 00:56:59,459 ♪ You're so complicated ♪ 1007 00:56:59,542 --> 00:57:01,544 [Jon] She was not only ready to tour, 1008 00:57:01,627 --> 00:57:03,463 she knew she had to tour, 1009 00:57:03,546 --> 00:57:06,549 and she had tremendous confidence in herself. 1010 00:57:06,632 --> 00:57:10,553 [Luke] You know, at that point if she had gone out and it wasn't, like, first-class, 1011 00:57:10,636 --> 00:57:14,056 knocked-out show, she would have taken some shit. 1012 00:57:15,308 --> 00:57:18,394 [Shania] I wasn't worried about being able to prove that I could do it. 1013 00:57:18,478 --> 00:57:21,189 I'd been singing all my life, and singing in bars is 1014 00:57:21,272 --> 00:57:25,443 way more taxing on your voice than singing two hours in a show. 1015 00:57:25,526 --> 00:57:29,238 Then, of course, once she got out there, they realize, "She can actually sing." 1016 00:57:29,322 --> 00:57:31,532 So, uh, all that was put to rest. 1017 00:57:32,658 --> 00:57:33,868 ♪ Don't be stupid ♪ 1018 00:57:34,494 --> 00:57:36,245 ♪ You know I love you ♪ 1019 00:57:36,329 --> 00:57:38,498 ♪ Don't be ridiculous ♪ 1020 00:57:39,081 --> 00:57:42,543 [Jon] The band that she put together was so world class, 1021 00:57:43,044 --> 00:57:46,464 and now we're just hitting home runs every night, every night. 1022 00:57:47,215 --> 00:57:49,342 ♪ Oh, no, no ♪ 1023 00:57:49,425 --> 00:57:52,386 ♪ I'm mad about you ♪ 1024 00:57:53,137 --> 00:57:57,266 ♪ I can't live without you ♪ 1025 00:57:57,350 --> 00:58:00,478 ♪ I'm crazy 'bout you ♪ 1026 00:58:00,561 --> 00:58:01,979 ♪ Don't be stupid ♪ 1027 00:58:02,063 --> 00:58:05,024 ♪ You know I love you ♪ 1028 00:58:05,107 --> 00:58:08,194 -You've come a long way, baby. -[chuckles] 1029 00:58:08,277 --> 00:58:10,488 You're going even further, so there you go. 1030 00:58:13,032 --> 00:58:14,784 [audience cheering] 1031 00:58:15,618 --> 00:58:17,495 [Jon] It was monstrous and worldwide. 1032 00:58:17,578 --> 00:58:20,331 We made it over to Australia. We were in Canada. 1033 00:58:20,414 --> 00:58:21,499 We made it to Europe. 1034 00:58:21,582 --> 00:58:24,961 [reporter] You're massive in America, you're conquering Europe, 1035 00:58:25,044 --> 00:58:27,338 a lot of our listeners are in Asia and Africa. 1036 00:58:27,421 --> 00:58:29,840 What are your plans for those two continents? 1037 00:58:29,924 --> 00:58:30,967 I plan on going there. 1038 00:58:31,050 --> 00:58:32,927 This was just non-stop. 1039 00:58:33,010 --> 00:58:33,928 Woo! 1040 00:58:36,055 --> 00:58:38,891 ♪ This country ♪ 1041 00:58:38,975 --> 00:58:41,185 ♪ Right outta this world ♪ 1042 00:58:41,811 --> 00:58:43,312 ♪ Ah-ooh ♪ 1043 00:58:43,396 --> 00:58:46,148 [Jon] Recognition comes in a lot of different ways. 1044 00:58:46,941 --> 00:58:51,737 She'd been recognized by this enormous audience, 1045 00:58:51,821 --> 00:58:55,283 that span all of country and all of pop. 1046 00:58:55,366 --> 00:58:58,703 [Shania] When you get such a unanimous response over something, 1047 00:58:58,786 --> 00:59:02,832 and it's positive, and it's even healing to a lot of people, 1048 00:59:02,915 --> 00:59:04,292 now you're like, "Whoa!" 1049 00:59:04,375 --> 00:59:06,711 That's a moment when you're like, "Gee, like…" 1050 00:59:07,253 --> 00:59:11,674 "I didn't realize how much impact this lyric could have." 1051 00:59:11,757 --> 00:59:14,176 "Or that expression could have." 1052 00:59:14,260 --> 00:59:17,388 It's not about the numbers anymore. It's really more about 1053 00:59:17,471 --> 00:59:19,223 the effect you're having on people. 1054 00:59:19,307 --> 00:59:21,267 [audience cheering] 1055 00:59:21,350 --> 00:59:22,810 [laughing] 1056 00:59:23,769 --> 00:59:25,688 Are you ready, Miami? 1057 00:59:25,771 --> 00:59:28,733 It was really clear just from fan feedback 1058 00:59:28,816 --> 00:59:30,610 that the fans… 1059 00:59:30,693 --> 00:59:32,570 You know, the fans were so diverse. 1060 00:59:33,154 --> 00:59:36,866 There was no one type of Shania Twain fan. 1061 00:59:36,949 --> 00:59:39,160 I'm speaking to kids. 1062 00:59:39,243 --> 00:59:40,953 -Do you like to sing? -Uh-huh. 1063 00:59:41,454 --> 00:59:43,914 -Uh-huh. -And what do you like to sing? 1064 00:59:44,415 --> 00:59:45,625 I don't know. 1065 00:59:45,708 --> 00:59:49,211 [Shania] I'm speaking to parents. I'm speaking to grandparents. 1066 00:59:49,712 --> 00:59:54,342 I'm speaking to people that were already hearing about me from other countries. 1067 00:59:55,051 --> 00:59:58,220 Um, people from all walks of life, really. 1068 00:59:59,055 --> 01:00:01,057 [electric guitar playing] 1069 01:00:04,685 --> 01:00:08,314 [Eve] There's a reason why Shania also has a huge LGBTQ following 1070 01:00:08,397 --> 01:00:12,276 because anyone that sees that level of confidence and self-ownership, 1071 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,946 and comes from a place of struggle and oppression, is, um… 1072 01:00:16,030 --> 01:00:18,240 is completely turned on by that. 1073 01:00:21,786 --> 01:00:24,121 Because that is their permission to do… 1074 01:00:24,205 --> 01:00:27,750 to flaunt it in exactly the same way as Shania does. 1075 01:00:30,211 --> 01:00:32,880 I think one of the reasons Shania does have a huge following 1076 01:00:32,963 --> 01:00:35,758 with the LGBTQ+ community 1077 01:00:35,841 --> 01:00:39,428 is because of her costuming, and the things that she wore 1078 01:00:39,512 --> 01:00:42,765 because that particular community, which I'm part of, 1079 01:00:42,848 --> 01:00:44,767 totally relates to image. 1080 01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:49,313 I mean, from Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz to Shania Twain, 1081 01:00:49,397 --> 01:00:52,400 is these striking images that are memorable. 1082 01:00:52,483 --> 01:00:54,485 These are the things that we retain. 1083 01:00:54,568 --> 01:00:56,612 These are the things that we love. 1084 01:00:56,696 --> 01:00:59,031 You know, I've always said that I think 1085 01:00:59,573 --> 01:01:02,034 country music, just in general, 1086 01:01:02,118 --> 01:01:05,204 it's always surprised me that there haven't been more 1087 01:01:05,287 --> 01:01:07,957 openly gay country musicians. 1088 01:01:08,874 --> 01:01:13,129 Because I think at the heart of it, country music is about 1089 01:01:13,212 --> 01:01:15,673 disappointment, heartbreak, 1090 01:01:16,632 --> 01:01:19,468 uh, feelings of inadequacy, feelings of loss. 1091 01:01:19,552 --> 01:01:22,638 And, you know, that is, sadly, kind of the gay experience 1092 01:01:22,722 --> 01:01:24,890 for everyone at some point. 1093 01:01:24,974 --> 01:01:28,436 I mean, definitely, it was for me for… for a long time. 1094 01:01:28,519 --> 01:01:33,399 And I think when you can find a musician who 1095 01:01:33,482 --> 01:01:35,276 can tap into that, and 1096 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,320 write a song that speaks to that, 1097 01:01:38,988 --> 01:01:42,491 and also do it in a way that is 1098 01:01:43,367 --> 01:01:47,204 colorful and camp and playful, 1099 01:01:47,288 --> 01:01:51,125 and even humorous, like, even laughing at one's self, 1100 01:01:51,709 --> 01:01:54,587 I think that is also a very important 1101 01:01:55,838 --> 01:01:57,757 experience of gay culture as well. 1102 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,968 She reached through the stereo and made me feel 1103 01:02:01,594 --> 01:02:04,138 I guess safe when I was, like, a young kid. 1104 01:02:04,221 --> 01:02:06,223 [soft piano playing] 1105 01:02:08,768 --> 01:02:10,770 [reporter 1] At the top of entertainment tonight… 1106 01:02:10,853 --> 01:02:14,315 [reporter 2] Shania Twain is one of the best-selling female singers ever. 1107 01:02:14,398 --> 01:02:17,318 She and her husband, Robert Mutt Lange live in Switzerland, 1108 01:02:17,401 --> 01:02:19,487 where they're working on her fourth album. 1109 01:02:19,570 --> 01:02:22,573 It's not known how far along Shania is in her pregnancy. 1110 01:02:22,656 --> 01:02:23,741 She's 35. 1111 01:02:23,824 --> 01:02:26,202 We're going to take another quick break… 1112 01:02:26,994 --> 01:02:28,871 [Shania] I'd always wanted to be a mother, 1113 01:02:28,954 --> 01:02:33,626 and there was a long gap between the Come On Over album and the Up! album, 1114 01:02:33,709 --> 01:02:34,668 so… 1115 01:02:34,752 --> 01:02:37,213 I had time to focus on having a baby 1116 01:02:37,296 --> 01:02:40,591 and resting after so many years of hard work. 1117 01:02:41,967 --> 01:02:46,806 You have to put everything else aside in order to build a career, 1118 01:02:46,889 --> 01:02:49,433 and I never wanted to be a mother that was 1119 01:02:50,142 --> 01:02:52,937 absent and distracted by career. 1120 01:02:53,020 --> 01:02:56,065 Career could never come first over my child. 1121 01:02:56,774 --> 01:02:58,192 Do you sing lullabies for him? 1122 01:02:58,275 --> 01:02:59,360 I do. 1123 01:02:59,443 --> 01:03:01,070 Could you please sing a little one? 1124 01:03:01,153 --> 01:03:03,572 Okay, I'm going to sing you my own lullaby… 1125 01:03:03,656 --> 01:03:05,533 -Yeah? -…that I made up for him. 1126 01:03:06,283 --> 01:03:07,785 Okay, his name is Eja, 1127 01:03:08,285 --> 01:03:09,745 Eja D'Angelo, 1128 01:03:09,829 --> 01:03:13,082 so it's Eja D, I always call him, so… It goes… 1129 01:03:13,791 --> 01:03:19,797 ♪ Eja D, can you count to one, Two, three? ♪ 1130 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:26,846 ♪ Isn't anybody as lovely As my Eja D ♪ 1131 01:03:27,638 --> 01:03:28,556 [interviewer] Wow! 1132 01:03:28,639 --> 01:03:30,391 [cheering] 1133 01:03:30,474 --> 01:03:31,767 [chuckling] 1134 01:03:34,812 --> 01:03:38,357 [Shania] I didn't spend as much time in the studio during the making of Up! 1135 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,778 because I had Eja, I was nursing, I nursed, you know, for 14 months. 1136 01:03:43,654 --> 01:03:46,198 And when he would finally go down at night, 1137 01:03:46,282 --> 01:03:48,659 then I would go into the studio and do vocals. 1138 01:03:48,742 --> 01:03:52,037 I'd have about four hours once he was sleeping. 1139 01:03:53,038 --> 01:03:57,418 Of course, you know, Mutt was the stronghold in the studio. 1140 01:03:58,377 --> 01:04:01,881 Made everything happen around my availability. 1141 01:04:02,882 --> 01:04:06,051 And now, you know, he's a dad, so he's sensitive to it as well. 1142 01:04:06,635 --> 01:04:10,055 It was all to, um, our advantage to be going through that 1143 01:04:10,723 --> 01:04:12,850 together and trying to balance everything. 1144 01:04:14,351 --> 01:04:15,728 [engine revving] 1145 01:04:15,811 --> 01:04:17,187 [country music playing] 1146 01:04:20,024 --> 01:04:21,150 ♪ Let's go ♪ 1147 01:04:26,363 --> 01:04:27,489 ♪ Mmm… ♪ 1148 01:04:28,490 --> 01:04:30,618 ♪ Don't want you for the weekend ♪ 1149 01:04:32,328 --> 01:04:34,288 ♪ Don't want you for a night ♪ 1150 01:04:35,998 --> 01:04:39,543 The intention was to stay very positive, hence the title Up! 1151 01:04:40,628 --> 01:04:45,132 The goal was to write songs that would keep carrying me, basically, as an artist, 1152 01:04:45,215 --> 01:04:47,551 and that wouldn't just all fall away, 1153 01:04:47,635 --> 01:04:51,347 which is, I'm sure what everybody would have maybe expected. 1154 01:04:51,847 --> 01:04:55,392 Very few people have three diamond albums in a row, so… 1155 01:04:56,143 --> 01:04:59,772 Uh, that was… It wasn't a pressure, but it was certainly the goal. 1156 01:04:59,855 --> 01:05:04,109 ♪ So don't try to run, honey ♪ 1157 01:05:04,193 --> 01:05:07,196 ♪ Love can be fun ♪ 1158 01:05:07,279 --> 01:05:11,158 Listen, how many artists have followed huge records 1159 01:05:11,241 --> 01:05:14,453 with one more, much less two more? Know what I mean? 1160 01:05:15,579 --> 01:05:18,832 ♪ I'm gonna getcha While I got you in sight ♪ 1161 01:05:19,500 --> 01:05:23,295 ♪ I'm gonna getcha if it takes all night ♪ 1162 01:05:23,379 --> 01:05:27,091 The fact that it ended up being the third diamond album 1163 01:05:27,174 --> 01:05:31,971 was just a great, awesome, rewarding feeling. 1164 01:05:32,054 --> 01:05:37,101 It was obviously a, you know, highlight achievement in my career, 1165 01:05:37,184 --> 01:05:39,186 and I knew that it was for anyone. 1166 01:05:39,687 --> 01:05:43,065 You know, there were three versions of it released at the same time. 1167 01:05:43,148 --> 01:05:44,608 That was very exciting. 1168 01:05:44,692 --> 01:05:48,570 There was obviously a country version, which we call the green version, 1169 01:05:48,654 --> 01:05:50,823 the red version, called the pop version, 1170 01:05:50,906 --> 01:05:53,409 and then a blue version, which was international, 1171 01:05:53,492 --> 01:05:55,703 which had never been done before, honestly. 1172 01:05:55,786 --> 01:05:59,623 And I just found it so, like, inspiring and pretty clever. 1173 01:05:59,707 --> 01:06:05,587 [Shania] The video making was also getting, for me, more fun. 1174 01:06:05,671 --> 01:06:08,590 [Jason] All these enormous looks that came along with it. 1175 01:06:08,674 --> 01:06:12,094 The motorcycle video, which was one of the most expensive videos of all time 1176 01:06:12,177 --> 01:06:13,095 at that time. 1177 01:06:14,179 --> 01:06:16,056 [glass shatters] 1178 01:06:16,765 --> 01:06:18,267 [Jason] I feel like it was a home run. 1179 01:06:18,350 --> 01:06:21,562 I mean, we had a lot of hit songs off that album. 1180 01:06:21,645 --> 01:06:24,106 -[audience cheering] -[cheers] 1181 01:06:24,189 --> 01:06:27,484 All right, Chicago! [chuckles] 1182 01:06:32,865 --> 01:06:37,453 ♪ Up, up, up, can only go up from here 1183 01:06:37,536 --> 01:06:40,748 ♪ Up, up, up, up Where the clouds gonna clear ♪ 1184 01:06:40,831 --> 01:06:45,419 ♪ Up, up, up There's no way but up from here ♪ 1185 01:06:46,545 --> 01:06:48,922 ♪ Even something as simple as ♪ 1186 01:06:50,215 --> 01:06:53,385 ♪ Forgettin' to fill up on gas ♪ 1187 01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:56,472 ♪ There ain't no explanation why ♪ 1188 01:06:56,555 --> 01:06:58,182 ♪ Things like that can make you cry ♪ 1189 01:06:58,265 --> 01:07:00,184 ♪ Just gotta learn to have a laugh ♪ 1190 01:07:00,267 --> 01:07:04,980 For the Up! tour, I was now getting a new influence 1191 01:07:05,064 --> 01:07:09,318 from big rock band show production, 1192 01:07:09,401 --> 01:07:12,321 like Metallica, because now my management is Q Prime. 1193 01:07:12,404 --> 01:07:19,161 And they had huge experience in doing major rock shows 1194 01:07:19,244 --> 01:07:22,372 with pyro and all of that stuff. 1195 01:07:22,456 --> 01:07:26,585 So, it was great for me to now get more epic. 1196 01:07:27,419 --> 01:07:32,633 I think it just got more in the vein of big-ass rock show, you know. 1197 01:07:35,135 --> 01:07:36,178 [cheering] 1198 01:07:36,261 --> 01:07:37,805 [audience cheering] 1199 01:07:47,648 --> 01:07:49,650 [Shania] See you on the tour, good night! 1200 01:07:49,733 --> 01:07:51,819 [audience cheering] 1201 01:07:54,947 --> 01:07:56,532 [Jason] From the first time we met, 1202 01:07:57,116 --> 01:07:59,576 throughout the entire campaign of Up!, 1203 01:07:59,660 --> 01:08:01,662 she and I became really, really close. 1204 01:08:02,329 --> 01:08:05,082 And when you're with someone like that all the time, 1205 01:08:05,165 --> 01:08:09,086 you can't help but, you know, be a part of the highs and lows. 1206 01:08:10,337 --> 01:08:14,591 And I started to see a little bit of it as sort of Up! was winding down. 1207 01:08:15,467 --> 01:08:17,344 [somber music playing] 1208 01:08:20,681 --> 01:08:24,518 [Shania] It was nearing the end of the tour, very much at the end of the tour, 1209 01:08:25,144 --> 01:08:28,230 I was out horseback riding, and I was bit by a tick. 1210 01:08:29,773 --> 01:08:32,276 The tick was infected with Lyme's disease. 1211 01:08:34,486 --> 01:08:37,447 I did get Lyme's disease. 1212 01:08:39,992 --> 01:08:43,996 I mean, my symptoms were quite scary because 1213 01:08:44,079 --> 01:08:45,747 before I was diagnosed, 1214 01:08:47,499 --> 01:08:51,211 I was on stage very dizzy, I was losing my balance. 1215 01:08:51,295 --> 01:08:54,464 I was afraid I was going to fall off the stage, 1216 01:08:54,548 --> 01:08:56,842 and the stage is quite high. 1217 01:08:57,968 --> 01:09:02,097 So I was staying far from the edge, I was adjusting what I was doing. 1218 01:09:02,181 --> 01:09:03,098 Um… 1219 01:09:03,849 --> 01:09:09,438 I was having these very, very, millisecond blackouts, but regularly, like, every… 1220 01:09:11,190 --> 01:09:13,483 Every minute, or every 30 seconds. 1221 01:09:17,029 --> 01:09:20,240 I had everything that was on the Lyme's disease checklist 1222 01:09:20,324 --> 01:09:21,783 to follow up on medically. 1223 01:09:21,867 --> 01:09:22,993 I… I was fine. 1224 01:09:24,453 --> 01:09:26,788 But my voice was never the same again. 1225 01:09:27,664 --> 01:09:28,624 It just… 1226 01:09:29,583 --> 01:09:33,212 went into this strange flanging, 1227 01:09:33,295 --> 01:09:36,423 you know, lack of control of… of the airflow. 1228 01:09:37,216 --> 01:09:38,550 I… I didn't understand it. 1229 01:09:45,557 --> 01:09:48,685 But I thought I'd lost my voice forever, I thought that was it. 1230 01:09:48,769 --> 01:09:50,479 I would never, ever sing again. 1231 01:09:53,857 --> 01:09:57,236 That was… You know, that was agonizing to watch. 1232 01:09:58,195 --> 01:10:01,657 You know, I don't know, I've never felt for anybody so much. 1233 01:10:02,574 --> 01:10:03,575 Um… 1234 01:10:03,659 --> 01:10:06,203 I've dealt with a lot of artists that have had problems. 1235 01:10:06,286 --> 01:10:09,414 She came to Nashville. She went to experts everywhere in the world. 1236 01:10:09,498 --> 01:10:11,500 [somber music playing] 1237 01:10:16,129 --> 01:10:20,467 In that search to determine what was 1238 01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:26,431 causing this lack of control with my voice and this change in my voice, 1239 01:10:27,683 --> 01:10:28,767 Uh… 1240 01:10:29,685 --> 01:10:31,144 I was facing a divorce. 1241 01:10:31,645 --> 01:10:34,314 My husband leaves me for another woman. 1242 01:10:34,398 --> 01:10:38,527 This was your best friend. Allegedly, she had an affair with your husband, 1243 01:10:38,610 --> 01:10:40,279 that infidelity led to divorce. 1244 01:10:41,071 --> 01:10:42,990 [Shania] Now I'm at a whole other low… 1245 01:10:44,324 --> 01:10:45,367 and… 1246 01:10:46,410 --> 01:10:47,244 I've… 1247 01:10:48,370 --> 01:10:51,415 I just don't see any point in going on with a music career. 1248 01:10:54,042 --> 01:10:57,170 [Jason] I was at my house here in Nashville when she called me 1249 01:10:57,254 --> 01:11:01,341 and told me that she felt like she and Mutt were going to get divorced. 1250 01:11:01,425 --> 01:11:02,718 It was a really sad… 1251 01:11:03,802 --> 01:11:05,345 sad, sad time. 1252 01:11:06,263 --> 01:11:08,807 I… I remember it, unfortunately, very well. 1253 01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:11,101 [sighs] 1254 01:11:11,184 --> 01:11:14,021 When I lost Mutt, I guess I thought… 1255 01:11:16,148 --> 01:11:19,443 I was thinking, um, that the… 1256 01:11:20,152 --> 01:11:22,279 the grief of that was… 1257 01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:27,659 It was similarly intense to losing my parents. 1258 01:11:28,994 --> 01:11:29,995 And… 1259 01:11:31,580 --> 01:11:33,582 you know, it was like a death. 1260 01:11:33,665 --> 01:11:36,084 It was… It was like the death. It was the end, 1261 01:11:36,168 --> 01:11:39,087 a permanent end to so many facets of my life. 1262 01:11:39,796 --> 01:11:40,756 Um… 1263 01:11:41,381 --> 01:11:43,342 And I never got over my parents' death. 1264 01:11:43,425 --> 01:11:47,346 So I'm thinking, "Shit, I'm never going to get over this." Like… 1265 01:11:48,055 --> 01:11:49,556 How do you get over that? 1266 01:11:50,599 --> 01:11:51,641 [clicks lips] 1267 01:11:51,725 --> 01:11:52,934 So all I can do 1268 01:11:53,935 --> 01:11:58,899 is determine how I'm going to carry on from there. 1269 01:11:58,982 --> 01:12:02,402 How am I going to crawl out of this… 1270 01:12:03,487 --> 01:12:04,821 you know, hole 1271 01:12:05,989 --> 01:12:07,449 that I've fallen in? 1272 01:12:08,492 --> 01:12:11,828 Just like that, you know? 1273 01:12:15,457 --> 01:12:18,085 I had to take baby steps. 1274 01:12:18,168 --> 01:12:20,670 Songwriting being the first. 1275 01:12:20,754 --> 01:12:24,758 Just being able to listen to myself back… 1276 01:12:24,841 --> 01:12:26,343 [vocalizing] 1277 01:12:26,426 --> 01:12:29,346 … um, on my writing tapes was difficult. 1278 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,642 And there were always just little milliseconds of 1279 01:12:35,477 --> 01:12:36,353 getting it. 1280 01:12:36,436 --> 01:12:38,438 [soft guitar playing] 1281 01:12:46,154 --> 01:12:49,282 Lionel Richie reached out to my management 1282 01:12:49,366 --> 01:12:53,829 to say, "I'm making this album, and I want country music artists to, 1283 01:12:54,454 --> 01:12:55,956 um, re-record them." 1284 01:12:56,039 --> 01:12:57,916 We were down to "Endless Love." 1285 01:12:58,875 --> 01:12:59,751 [chuckles] 1286 01:12:59,835 --> 01:13:01,002 "Who do you want?" 1287 01:13:01,086 --> 01:13:03,004 "I want Shania Twain." 1288 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,300 Not realizing Shania's story at that time. 1289 01:13:07,801 --> 01:13:10,679 Just realizing that that's my choice for… 1290 01:13:11,179 --> 01:13:14,099 for "Endless Love" and my partner in that song. 1291 01:13:14,599 --> 01:13:17,561 Uh, and of course, I made the phone call. 1292 01:13:17,644 --> 01:13:21,106 I didn't… I didn't feel comfortable putting myself under that pressure. 1293 01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:23,108 I said no. I declined. 1294 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,156 But he kept coming back, like, several times requesting it. 1295 01:13:29,239 --> 01:13:32,075 I said to her very simply, "I'll meet you in Nashville." 1296 01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:34,077 "No, I can't come to Nashville." 1297 01:13:34,161 --> 01:13:34,995 "All right." 1298 01:13:35,495 --> 01:13:38,039 "I'll have you come to California." 1299 01:13:38,123 --> 01:13:39,791 "Nope. Can't come to California." 1300 01:13:39,875 --> 01:13:43,336 "Where would you like to meet?" is my next question. [chuckles] 1301 01:13:44,087 --> 01:13:45,714 I'm on the phone, and I'm like… 1302 01:13:46,381 --> 01:13:47,632 [sighs] 1303 01:13:47,716 --> 01:13:50,260 "You know, Lionel, I… I just… I can't do it." 1304 01:13:50,343 --> 01:13:52,762 "I'm so sorry. I… I want to do it." 1305 01:13:52,846 --> 01:13:57,476 "I wish I could sing well enough to do it, but I… I just can't." 1306 01:13:57,559 --> 01:13:58,560 "I'm so sorry." 1307 01:13:58,643 --> 01:13:59,603 [clicks tongue] 1308 01:14:00,353 --> 01:14:04,483 And before that call ended, he convinced me to do it. 1309 01:14:04,566 --> 01:14:08,320 And, of course, she said, "Listen, let's meet in the Bahamas." 1310 01:14:08,403 --> 01:14:11,198 Now, of course, I've recorded in a lot of places, 1311 01:14:11,281 --> 01:14:15,327 but the Bahamas would be the last place on Earth I would think about that. 1312 01:14:15,410 --> 01:14:17,078 I finally get there, 1313 01:14:18,830 --> 01:14:20,207 and as I walk in the door, 1314 01:14:21,291 --> 01:14:25,128 she wants to talk to me privately out by the pool. 1315 01:14:26,505 --> 01:14:29,966 She's trying to assure me that she cannot do it. 1316 01:14:30,592 --> 01:14:35,055 I'm sort of cursing under my breath, like, "How could you get me into this?" 1317 01:14:35,138 --> 01:14:39,100 This is the worst day of my life. I'll never be able to do it. I'm so stressed. 1318 01:14:40,101 --> 01:14:41,853 ♪ Forever ♪ 1319 01:14:41,937 --> 01:14:43,939 [vocalizing] 1320 01:14:45,023 --> 01:14:46,775 ♪ I… I… I… ♪ 1321 01:14:46,858 --> 01:14:50,362 Lionel was not going to give up. He was not going to give up, and I knew it, 1322 01:14:50,445 --> 01:14:53,782 but it was such a gentle… It was such a kind pressure. 1323 01:14:54,449 --> 01:14:56,451 But I thought, well, if I fail, 1324 01:14:56,952 --> 01:15:01,873 I'd rather fail with somebody that is forgiving and sweet and kind about it. 1325 01:15:01,957 --> 01:15:02,874 [chuckles] 1326 01:15:02,958 --> 01:15:05,210 I said, "We'll go in this room in a minute, 1327 01:15:05,293 --> 01:15:07,504 but I need you to walk in there with me." 1328 01:15:07,587 --> 01:15:09,339 "You know what's going to happen?" 1329 01:15:09,422 --> 01:15:11,466 "We are going to discover something." 1330 01:15:11,550 --> 01:15:14,594 "Lionel Richie and Shania Twain are gonna show up." 1331 01:15:15,387 --> 01:15:18,557 ♪ And yes ♪ 1332 01:15:19,641 --> 01:15:25,313 ♪ You'll be the only one ♪ 1333 01:15:25,397 --> 01:15:31,820 ♪ 'Cause no one can deny ♪ 1334 01:15:31,903 --> 01:15:35,991 ♪ This love I have inside ♪ 1335 01:15:36,074 --> 01:15:37,325 ♪ My love ♪ 1336 01:15:37,409 --> 01:15:39,911 ♪ My love ♪ 1337 01:15:39,995 --> 01:15:46,126 ♪ My endless love ♪ 1338 01:15:46,209 --> 01:15:50,714 ♪ My endless love ♪ 1339 01:15:54,551 --> 01:15:58,096 It was a lot of pressure. Oh, boy, that day was so stressful. 1340 01:15:58,805 --> 01:15:59,806 [sighs] 1341 01:16:00,432 --> 01:16:03,018 I'm so glad that's over, and it ended well. 1342 01:16:04,311 --> 01:16:06,605 It took me a lot of encouragement 1343 01:16:06,688 --> 01:16:09,399 from around me to get me truly 1344 01:16:09,899 --> 01:16:11,276 doing it for real. 1345 01:16:11,359 --> 01:16:13,862 And Lionel Richie was a big part of that. 1346 01:16:13,945 --> 01:16:18,074 David Foster and Michael Bublé, another big part of that. 1347 01:16:18,158 --> 01:16:21,494 Oprah Winfrey was, you know, part of that journey. 1348 01:16:21,578 --> 01:16:25,498 Another great encouragement for me was meeting Gladys Knight. 1349 01:16:25,582 --> 01:16:28,627 She's probably my favorite female vocalist ever. 1350 01:16:29,127 --> 01:16:32,922 She told me you just got to get on the mic and do it. 1351 01:16:33,465 --> 01:16:35,050 Do it and do it and do it. 1352 01:16:35,133 --> 01:16:40,430 I learned that if I could get my voice into a certain place, 1353 01:16:41,181 --> 01:16:43,850 with a lot of effort, 1354 01:16:43,933 --> 01:16:48,980 it would sustain for at least long enough to, you know, do a great vocal. 1355 01:16:49,064 --> 01:16:51,066 [pop music playing] 1356 01:16:59,783 --> 01:17:01,910 Thank you. Yeah! 1357 01:17:01,993 --> 01:17:05,038 It was a huge commitment to decide to do Las Vegas, 1358 01:17:05,121 --> 01:17:06,956 but it was exactly what I needed. 1359 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,958 It's been very, very long time coming. 1360 01:17:09,042 --> 01:17:11,670 It's been over ten years since I've been on the live stage. 1361 01:17:12,587 --> 01:17:13,630 Let me hear you. 1362 01:17:14,130 --> 01:17:16,299 [audience cheering] 1363 01:17:17,092 --> 01:17:19,678 ♪ That don't impress me much ♪ 1364 01:17:20,804 --> 01:17:25,016 ♪ So you got the looks But have you got the touch ♪ 1365 01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:28,186 Diving into the obligation to Caesars Palace, 1366 01:17:28,269 --> 01:17:30,063 that was a huge pressure. 1367 01:17:30,146 --> 01:17:33,817 But I feel like the only way that I would achieve something 1368 01:17:34,776 --> 01:17:39,072 vocally from it was to put myself under the gun. 1369 01:17:47,372 --> 01:17:50,041 [Luke] You'd have to take a sledgehammer to knock her down, 1370 01:17:50,125 --> 01:17:51,418 then she'd get up. 1371 01:17:52,585 --> 01:17:53,628 She would get up. 1372 01:17:54,129 --> 01:17:55,797 [Cory] I think she took it as a challenge. 1373 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,759 She saw it as an opportunity, like, "I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna show people." 1374 01:17:59,843 --> 01:18:03,346 And the next thing was recording a record on her own. 1375 01:18:04,681 --> 01:18:07,392 ♪ You let me go ♪ 1376 01:18:07,475 --> 01:18:10,770 ♪ You had to have her ♪ 1377 01:18:11,354 --> 01:18:14,899 It took a long time to be ready to write and record again. 1378 01:18:14,983 --> 01:18:16,818 I was afraid to 1379 01:18:17,652 --> 01:18:19,779 get back into the studio without Mutt. 1380 01:18:20,947 --> 01:18:23,324 So it was really more about 1381 01:18:24,117 --> 01:18:26,536 taking independence for myself, 1382 01:18:26,619 --> 01:18:29,164 and it was an exercise of… 1383 01:18:30,957 --> 01:18:35,628 saying, "Okay, look, you can't just not ever make music again… 1384 01:18:36,463 --> 01:18:39,007 because you don't have Mutt." 1385 01:18:39,090 --> 01:18:40,717 "You gotta just dive in." 1386 01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,927 And I was petrified. I really was. 1387 01:18:43,011 --> 01:18:46,765 I don't know where I'm going. I'm leaving the studio. I quit. 1388 01:18:46,848 --> 01:18:48,308 [chuckling] 1389 01:18:49,142 --> 01:18:50,185 I'm just kidding. 1390 01:18:50,852 --> 01:18:54,606 So now I said, "Okay, listen, I'm going to not only 1391 01:18:55,356 --> 01:18:59,319 get back into the studio without him, I'm going to write all the music alone, 1392 01:18:59,402 --> 01:19:04,324 and just discover myself again as an individual creative." 1393 01:19:05,533 --> 01:19:08,578 Like I'd been all of my youth. 1394 01:19:08,661 --> 01:19:10,413 It's actually a beautiful day here. 1395 01:19:11,539 --> 01:19:15,335 And, uh, I don't know, I was thinking maybe we could have a barbecue. 1396 01:19:16,711 --> 01:19:17,670 Oh. 1397 01:19:17,754 --> 01:19:18,755 Maybe not. 1398 01:19:19,506 --> 01:19:24,260 There was a vulnerability to it, and I think, you know, for anyone 1399 01:19:24,344 --> 01:19:29,098 in music it's such a… It's like a therapy, really, for a lot of people. 1400 01:19:29,182 --> 01:19:32,060 For her it was definitely a moment where she could open up 1401 01:19:32,143 --> 01:19:34,646 and talk about things she hadn't spoken about before. 1402 01:19:35,396 --> 01:19:39,400 ♪ Because of you, I'm me ♪ 1403 01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:46,282 ♪ All of a sudden I'm something I wasn't ♪ 1404 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,704 ♪ Because of you, I see ♪ 1405 01:19:53,373 --> 01:19:58,086 [Jake] Shania's talking about lyrics and things that really matter to her. 1406 01:19:58,169 --> 01:20:01,422 And I'm going, "Look, it's fine. Like it's okay. It's good." 1407 01:20:01,506 --> 01:20:05,426 "It's important to say these things. People need to hear this side of you." 1408 01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:09,264 Um, and I think that in itself gave her that confidence to actually go, 1409 01:20:09,347 --> 01:20:12,225 "Okay, yeah. Brilliant. Cool. Let's move forward with it." 1410 01:20:12,308 --> 01:20:14,936 ♪ Poor me this. Poor me that ♪ 1411 01:20:16,020 --> 01:20:17,856 [cheering] 1412 01:20:17,939 --> 01:20:19,440 ♪ Poor me this… ♪ 1413 01:20:19,524 --> 01:20:20,984 That was so beautiful. 1414 01:20:21,067 --> 01:20:23,611 [chuckling] 1415 01:20:24,237 --> 01:20:26,948 ♪ Poor me this. Poor me that ♪ 1416 01:20:27,031 --> 01:20:28,533 It was a great experience. 1417 01:20:29,158 --> 01:20:30,785 Now is my favorite 1418 01:20:31,494 --> 01:20:35,915 recorded work that I've done so far that I enjoy listening to still. 1419 01:20:36,499 --> 01:20:37,667 [chuckles] 1420 01:20:39,544 --> 01:20:40,753 You know what? 1421 01:20:41,296 --> 01:20:43,673 Life is about to get real good. 1422 01:20:45,967 --> 01:20:48,261 ♪ Life's about joy ♪ 1423 01:20:48,344 --> 01:20:50,346 ♪ Life's about pain ♪ 1424 01:20:50,430 --> 01:20:52,640 ♪ It's all about forgiving ♪ 1425 01:20:52,724 --> 01:20:55,435 ♪ And the will to walk away ♪ 1426 01:20:55,518 --> 01:20:57,687 ♪ I'm ready to be loved ♪ 1427 01:20:57,770 --> 01:21:00,023 ♪ And love the way I should ♪ 1428 01:21:00,106 --> 01:21:01,566 ♪ Life's about ♪ 1429 01:21:01,649 --> 01:21:04,485 ♪ Life's about to get good ♪ 1430 01:21:06,404 --> 01:21:08,907 ♪ Oh, life's about to get good ♪ 1431 01:21:08,990 --> 01:21:11,367 ♪ Oh, life's about to get good ♪ 1432 01:21:11,451 --> 01:21:15,163 ♪ Oh, life's about to get good ♪ 1433 01:21:16,289 --> 01:21:18,791 ♪ Oh, life's about to get good ♪ 1434 01:21:18,875 --> 01:21:20,960 ♪ Oh, life's about to get good ♪ 1435 01:21:21,044 --> 01:21:23,338 ♪ Oh, life's about to get good ♪ 1436 01:21:24,881 --> 01:21:26,424 [Kelsea] I say all the time, 1437 01:21:26,507 --> 01:21:28,509 I do not think that I would have 1438 01:21:28,593 --> 01:21:30,219 the career that I have, 1439 01:21:30,303 --> 01:21:32,972 and the career that I want to continue to have, 1440 01:21:33,056 --> 01:21:35,016 had Shania not been Shania. 1441 01:21:35,099 --> 01:21:38,144 To me, Shania Twain is a superstar 1442 01:21:38,227 --> 01:21:43,483 that I had the privilege of singing with on stage when I was 14 years old. 1443 01:21:44,275 --> 01:21:48,863 And she had a huge hand in me getting recognized 1444 01:21:48,947 --> 01:21:52,659 and noticed as a young female Canadian singer. 1445 01:21:52,742 --> 01:21:55,912 Hi, Shania. Do you remember me? [laughs] 1446 01:21:56,496 --> 01:22:00,041 [Eve] You know, you look at the diversity of artists who she has influenced, 1447 01:22:00,124 --> 01:22:02,418 her tentacles have reached so far and wide. 1448 01:22:03,878 --> 01:22:05,880 ♪ Oh, oh, no, no ♪ 1449 01:22:10,510 --> 01:22:12,220 ♪ Now don't get me wrong ♪ 1450 01:22:12,303 --> 01:22:14,222 ♪ Yeah, I think you're all right ♪ 1451 01:22:14,806 --> 01:22:18,142 ♪ But that won't keep me warm In the middle of the night ♪ 1452 01:22:19,102 --> 01:22:21,604 [Orville] Shania never let where she was from, 1453 01:22:21,688 --> 01:22:24,148 who she was, the fact that she was a woman, 1454 01:22:24,232 --> 01:22:27,735 I don't think she let any of those things define what she wanted to do, 1455 01:22:27,819 --> 01:22:31,864 which was make art and make music and do it her way. 1456 01:22:31,948 --> 01:22:35,535 ♪ Legends never die ♪ 1457 01:22:39,622 --> 01:22:43,334 ♪ Oh, legends never die ♪ 1458 01:22:43,918 --> 01:22:46,754 [Kelsea] She did it different. I mean, she really kicked that door open. 1459 01:22:46,838 --> 01:22:51,509 And I think it shows in the careers like Taylor Swift, 1460 01:22:51,592 --> 01:22:56,639 and it shows in the careers like mine, where we followed that pattern. 1461 01:22:56,723 --> 01:23:00,393 Shania's been that woman to tell you that you don't have to adhere to the genres. 1462 01:23:00,476 --> 01:23:01,936 If the label says do this, 1463 01:23:02,020 --> 01:23:05,606 your heart says do something differently, follow your heart. She's just awesome. 1464 01:23:05,690 --> 01:23:09,861 It's awesome that she keeps doing it too. Not taking a break. I love that about her. 1465 01:23:09,944 --> 01:23:11,946 [soft guitar playing] 1466 01:23:22,665 --> 01:23:25,626 [Shania] I like to get out on the water and chill, contemplate. 1467 01:23:25,710 --> 01:23:28,880 Um, I have to bring the guitar and of course the dog. 1468 01:23:30,757 --> 01:23:33,217 Sometimes I just anchor out and, um… 1469 01:23:34,469 --> 01:23:35,511 get inspired. 1470 01:23:36,012 --> 01:23:37,055 [guitar playing] 1471 01:23:37,138 --> 01:23:38,723 ♪ I'm not a girl ♪ 1472 01:23:39,974 --> 01:23:41,476 ♪ I'm not a boy ♪ 1473 01:23:42,602 --> 01:23:44,145 ♪ I'm not a baby ♪ 1474 01:23:45,354 --> 01:23:47,148 ♪ I'm not a toy ♪ 1475 01:23:47,940 --> 01:23:50,568 ♪ 'Cause I'm a queen ♪ 1476 01:23:51,527 --> 01:23:55,656 I was always very bold and straightforward about what I thought, 1477 01:23:55,740 --> 01:23:58,910 and my point of view on things as a woman, 1478 01:23:58,993 --> 01:23:59,952 particularly. 1479 01:24:00,953 --> 01:24:03,372 My point of view in relationships, 1480 01:24:03,456 --> 01:24:08,002 the way I felt that that women should be treated, respected, 1481 01:24:08,086 --> 01:24:09,921 and I still feel the same way. 1482 01:24:10,004 --> 01:24:12,381 So I'm just going to carry on with that message. 1483 01:24:12,465 --> 01:24:15,843 I mean, I'm the boss of me, man. I take responsibility for 1484 01:24:15,927 --> 01:24:17,428 what I think, what I say, 1485 01:24:18,012 --> 01:24:20,223 um, what I do and… 1486 01:24:21,474 --> 01:24:25,103 And I'm not going to be pushed around. I'm not going to get bullied. 1487 01:24:25,186 --> 01:24:26,896 And I'm going to speak my mind. 1488 01:24:28,940 --> 01:24:30,983 ♪ I'm not a girl ♪ 1489 01:24:31,067 --> 01:24:33,194 ♪ I'm not a boy ♪ 1490 01:24:33,277 --> 01:24:35,363 ♪ I'm not a baby ♪ 1491 01:24:35,446 --> 01:24:37,615 ♪ I'm not a toy ♪ 1492 01:24:37,698 --> 01:24:40,493 ♪ I'm a queen ♪ 1493 01:24:41,077 --> 01:24:47,708 I am here in London finishing my album and getting with some great UK talent. 1494 01:24:47,792 --> 01:24:48,709 Creatives. 1495 01:24:49,377 --> 01:24:53,464 And, um, enjoying being in the same room 1496 01:24:54,090 --> 01:24:55,341 with other people. 1497 01:24:56,134 --> 01:24:59,846 And creating music. It's really, really great. Great feeling. 1498 01:24:59,929 --> 01:25:04,392 ♪ …Other amazing things to do ♪ 1499 01:25:04,475 --> 01:25:06,060 ♪ I will follow my dream… ♪ 1500 01:25:06,144 --> 01:25:08,980 So Mark Ralph is a writer-producer, 1501 01:25:09,564 --> 01:25:13,484 who has this incredible, unique style of working. 1502 01:25:13,568 --> 01:25:17,280 He's got a lot of really great electronic sounds in his productions. 1503 01:25:17,363 --> 01:25:20,158 I was expecting that we would write that way, 1504 01:25:20,241 --> 01:25:23,953 but you get in the room with Mark Ralph, and it's really super organic. 1505 01:25:24,036 --> 01:25:27,373 There's no beat, there's no electronic sounds or nothing like that. 1506 01:25:27,456 --> 01:25:28,541 There's nothing. 1507 01:25:28,624 --> 01:25:30,793 So I'm in the background at normal speed, 1508 01:25:30,877 --> 01:25:33,337 and he's just, like, zipping around. It's awesome. 1509 01:25:33,421 --> 01:25:35,882 ♪ What are you gonna do with that? ♪ 1510 01:25:35,965 --> 01:25:38,593 ♪ What are you gonna do with that? ♪ 1511 01:25:38,676 --> 01:25:41,179 ♪ Come on get down and dance to it ♪ 1512 01:25:44,098 --> 01:25:47,101 ♪ What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? ♪ 1513 01:25:47,185 --> 01:25:50,646 I'm bopping around and having a blast, 1514 01:25:50,730 --> 01:25:53,524 and I think the fans will enjoy it. 1515 01:25:53,608 --> 01:25:58,237 And it's also very much… It's uplifting. It's still a lot of female point of view. 1516 01:25:58,321 --> 01:26:00,031 [vocalizing] 1517 01:26:04,243 --> 01:26:09,624 [Shania] I'm more swinging back into this space of, 1518 01:26:09,707 --> 01:26:13,336 I don't even want to say female empowerment, but more self-empowerment. 1519 01:26:13,419 --> 01:26:18,424 I mean, I'm a woman, but I'm just feeling very good in my own skin 1520 01:26:18,507 --> 01:26:21,636 and less apologetic than ever. 1521 01:26:22,970 --> 01:26:24,388 I'm feeling good, I don't feel… 1522 01:26:24,472 --> 01:26:27,016 Unless something else knocks me down along the way, but… 1523 01:26:27,683 --> 01:26:30,561 Like I always do, I think I'll just get back up again. 1524 01:26:31,062 --> 01:26:33,564 [vocalizing] 1525 01:26:49,497 --> 01:26:51,540 ["Man! I Feel Like A Woman" playing] 1526 01:26:52,250 --> 01:26:53,793 ♪ Let's go girls ♪ 1527 01:26:53,876 --> 01:26:55,211 [cow moos] 1528 01:26:57,797 --> 01:27:00,800 Shania Twain had no business going this hard on this song! 1529 01:27:00,883 --> 01:27:02,343 I don't care what y'all say! 1530 01:27:02,426 --> 01:27:04,679 ♪ I'm feelin' all right ♪ 1531 01:27:04,762 --> 01:27:08,641 ♪ Gonna let it all hang out ♪ 1532 01:27:08,724 --> 01:27:10,559 ♪ Wanna make some noise ♪ 1533 01:27:10,643 --> 01:27:12,478 ♪ Really raise my voice ♪ 1534 01:27:12,561 --> 01:27:14,647 ♪ Yeah, I wanna scream and… ♪ 1535 01:27:14,730 --> 01:27:16,190 Me too, Shania! 1536 01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:20,027 ♪ Uh ♪ 1537 01:27:20,111 --> 01:27:22,029 ♪ No inhibitions ♪ 1538 01:27:22,113 --> 01:27:24,073 ♪ Make no conditions ♪ 1539 01:27:24,156 --> 01:27:27,868 ♪ Get a little outta line ♪ 1540 01:27:27,952 --> 01:27:31,372 ♪ I ain't gonna act politically correct ♪ 1541 01:27:31,455 --> 01:27:35,459 ♪ I only wanna have a good time ♪ 1542 01:27:36,127 --> 01:27:39,755 ♪ The best thing about bein' a woman ♪ 1543 01:27:39,839 --> 01:27:43,009 ♪ Is the prerogative To have a little fun ♪ 1544 01:27:44,135 --> 01:27:47,471 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, go totally crazy ♪ 1545 01:27:47,555 --> 01:27:49,557 ♪ Forget I'm a lady ♪ 1546 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,767 ♪ Men's shirts, short skirts ♪ 1547 01:27:51,851 --> 01:27:55,229 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, really go wild ♪ 1548 01:27:55,313 --> 01:27:57,732 ♪ Yeah, doin' it in style ♪ 1549 01:27:57,815 --> 01:28:01,027 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, get in the action ♪ 1550 01:28:01,110 --> 01:28:03,070 ♪ Feel the attraction ♪ 1551 01:28:03,154 --> 01:28:05,197 ♪ Color my hair, do what I dare ♪ 1552 01:28:05,281 --> 01:28:08,534 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, I wanna be free ♪ 1553 01:28:08,617 --> 01:28:11,620 ♪ Yeah, to feel the way I feel ♪ 1554 01:28:12,163 --> 01:28:15,333 ♪ Man, I feel like a woman ♪