1 00:00:02,306 --> 00:00:03,220 - Hey, everybody get off the street. 2 00:00:03,263 --> 00:00:04,830 - Off the street! - Let's go! 3 00:00:04,873 --> 00:00:06,614 Get off the street! [distant sirens blaring] 4 00:00:06,658 --> 00:00:08,790 - It's the middle of the goddamn night. 5 00:00:08,834 --> 00:00:10,444 We don't have him. 6 00:00:10,488 --> 00:00:12,838 We're finding bombs in public transit places. 7 00:00:14,970 --> 00:00:16,755 He knew how to make a pressure cooker bomb 8 00:00:16,798 --> 00:00:18,757 with a certain explosive mix. 9 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,976 He knew how to make another pressure cooker bomb 10 00:00:21,020 --> 00:00:22,413 with a different explosive mix. 11 00:00:22,456 --> 00:00:23,892 [explosion booms] 12 00:00:23,936 --> 00:00:25,024 [glass shattering] 13 00:00:26,460 --> 00:00:28,419 - And in all likelihood, you have a bomb factory 14 00:00:28,462 --> 00:00:31,117 in a residential neighborhood in New Jersey. 15 00:00:31,161 --> 00:00:32,771 [explosion booms] 16 00:00:32,814 --> 00:00:34,512 - Now he's got pipe bombs. 17 00:00:34,555 --> 00:00:36,644 - The guy definitely was, like, a homegrown 18 00:00:36,688 --> 00:00:38,255 violent extremist, right? - He was. 19 00:00:38,298 --> 00:00:40,083 - No know knew it. He wasn't on the radar. 20 00:00:40,126 --> 00:00:42,346 - Massive manhunt right now is underway 21 00:00:42,389 --> 00:00:45,566 for 28-year-old Ahmad Khan Rahimi. 22 00:00:45,610 --> 00:00:48,134 - And we have a rush hour coming Tuesday morning 23 00:00:48,178 --> 00:00:51,268 where 5.6 million people are 24 00:00:51,311 --> 00:00:54,009 going to crowd into the subway trains of New York, 25 00:00:54,053 --> 00:00:57,100 a million more into the New Jersey Transit system, 26 00:00:57,143 --> 00:01:00,277 and we have, literally, a mad bomber on the loose. 27 00:01:18,425 --> 00:01:19,426 [gunshot bangs] 28 00:01:19,469 --> 00:01:20,862 - Holy shit. 29 00:01:23,648 --> 00:01:25,128 [dramatic music] 30 00:01:25,171 --> 00:01:28,392 - In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines. 31 00:01:28,435 --> 00:01:31,395 ♪ 32 00:01:31,438 --> 00:01:32,961 Drug busts, 33 00:01:33,005 --> 00:01:35,790 mob stings, 34 00:01:35,834 --> 00:01:37,531 terrorist takedowns. 35 00:01:37,575 --> 00:01:39,620 - Get down! Get down! 36 00:01:39,664 --> 00:01:42,101 - We understand why people want to tell stories about us. 37 00:01:42,145 --> 00:01:43,146 - Mark it. 38 00:01:43,189 --> 00:01:44,582 - Freeze! - FBI. 39 00:01:44,625 --> 00:01:46,192 - FBI! - Action! 40 00:01:46,236 --> 00:01:48,281 - But they don't know the half of it. 41 00:01:48,325 --> 00:01:49,848 [indistinct radio chatter] 42 00:01:49,891 --> 00:01:52,024 What really goes down, 43 00:01:52,067 --> 00:01:54,200 we save that for each other 44 00:01:54,244 --> 00:01:56,420 when we're talking agent to agent. 45 00:01:56,463 --> 00:01:59,336 ♪ 46 00:01:59,379 --> 00:02:02,643 This is "FBI True." 47 00:02:06,517 --> 00:02:09,432 [ominous music] 48 00:02:09,476 --> 00:02:11,739 ♪ 49 00:02:11,783 --> 00:02:15,003 - Cindy Coppola is a 23-year veteran of the FBI. 50 00:02:15,047 --> 00:02:17,615 She worked on cases that included organized crime 51 00:02:17,658 --> 00:02:19,138 and terrorism, 52 00:02:19,182 --> 00:02:21,662 and took part in multinational investigations 53 00:02:21,706 --> 00:02:23,838 into drug trafficking and money laundering. 54 00:02:23,882 --> 00:02:26,406 Coppola finished her career with the Los Angeles division, 55 00:02:26,450 --> 00:02:29,235 running two offices, supervising investigations 56 00:02:29,279 --> 00:02:31,063 and providing undercover security 57 00:02:31,106 --> 00:02:32,324 for special events. 58 00:02:32,369 --> 00:02:34,066 - So refresh my memory. 59 00:02:34,109 --> 00:02:38,157 In 2016, that's when the Chelsea bombing happened, 60 00:02:38,201 --> 00:02:39,854 and that's when you guys ended up 61 00:02:39,898 --> 00:02:41,508 working together, correct? 62 00:02:44,424 --> 00:02:47,558 - September 17, 2016. 63 00:02:47,601 --> 00:02:50,213 New York is on security lockdown. 64 00:02:50,256 --> 00:02:52,563 - John Miller was the former assistant director 65 00:02:52,606 --> 00:02:55,218 of Public Affairs for the FBI. 66 00:02:55,261 --> 00:02:57,524 He was the Deputy Commissioner for Intelligence 67 00:02:57,568 --> 00:03:00,875 and Counterterrorism at the New York Police Department. 68 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,878 - United Nations General Assembly is there. 69 00:03:05,967 --> 00:03:10,407 The world leaders who represent literally 90% 70 00:03:10,450 --> 00:03:14,889 of the globe's population are in, like, what, 71 00:03:14,933 --> 00:03:18,632 10 square blocks of the East Side of Manhattan. 72 00:03:18,676 --> 00:03:21,113 Everything starts to go a little crazy. 73 00:03:21,156 --> 00:03:23,681 [dramatic musical sting] 74 00:03:23,724 --> 00:03:25,683 - Breaking news out of Seaside Park 75 00:03:25,726 --> 00:03:27,641 where an explosion on the race course 76 00:03:27,685 --> 00:03:32,342 of the Semper Five 5K puts the entire area on lockdown. 77 00:03:32,384 --> 00:03:33,865 - So I was at Clemson University, 78 00:03:33,908 --> 00:03:35,735 at a football game with my son-- 79 00:03:35,780 --> 00:03:36,997 he was a freshman at Clemson-- 80 00:03:37,042 --> 00:03:38,739 and my phone buzzed. 81 00:03:38,783 --> 00:03:40,872 - Chuck Berger joined the New York Joint 82 00:03:40,915 --> 00:03:43,483 Terrorism Task Force in 1999. 83 00:03:43,527 --> 00:03:46,443 He spent 22 years working with the FBI's 84 00:03:46,485 --> 00:03:48,314 Counterterrorism Division. 85 00:03:48,358 --> 00:03:50,751 - And I looked at the phone, and I get this update 86 00:03:50,795 --> 00:03:53,798 from the JTTF that a suspected IED had gone off 87 00:03:53,841 --> 00:03:55,321 in Seaside Heights in New Jersey, 88 00:03:55,365 --> 00:03:57,671 which is in Newark Field Office's territory. 89 00:03:57,715 --> 00:03:59,891 - You're down there in Clemson. 90 00:03:59,934 --> 00:04:01,675 You're thinking, I hope I don't have to go back for this. 91 00:04:01,719 --> 00:04:02,937 - Exactly. - Right? 92 00:04:02,981 --> 00:04:04,330 - Right. And then a couple minutes later 93 00:04:04,374 --> 00:04:05,810 or half an hour later, it came back, 94 00:04:05,853 --> 00:04:07,855 was confirmed that it was an actual device. 95 00:04:07,899 --> 00:04:10,728 So Newark FBI was investigating it. 96 00:04:10,771 --> 00:04:14,035 - That's a symbolic target, military target, 97 00:04:14,079 --> 00:04:16,603 and civilian target because there's, 98 00:04:16,646 --> 00:04:18,170 you know, a couple of thousand people 99 00:04:18,213 --> 00:04:20,041 running in this race. 100 00:04:20,085 --> 00:04:21,781 If the bomb had gone off on time, 101 00:04:21,826 --> 00:04:23,436 there would have been casualties. 102 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,787 Now we were looking at this as something serious. 103 00:04:26,831 --> 00:04:30,313 But it was 70 miles away, 104 00:04:30,356 --> 00:04:32,358 so we were monitoring it 105 00:04:32,402 --> 00:04:34,708 because you just don't know what happens next. 106 00:04:34,752 --> 00:04:36,362 - Their bomb techs were on the scene, 107 00:04:36,406 --> 00:04:38,538 collecting the evidence, doing the forensics, 108 00:04:38,582 --> 00:04:40,366 and really, the next thing we knew-- 109 00:04:40,410 --> 00:04:41,802 it was about 8:30 at night, 110 00:04:41,846 --> 00:04:43,456 and one of my agents calls me. 111 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:45,589 And he's like, a bomb just went off in New York. 112 00:04:45,632 --> 00:04:46,677 [explosion booms] 113 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,069 [glass shattering] 114 00:04:49,549 --> 00:04:51,595 [shouting] 115 00:04:51,638 --> 00:04:53,684 - Hey, everybody, get off of the street! 116 00:04:53,726 --> 00:04:55,338 - Of the street! - Let's go! 117 00:04:55,381 --> 00:04:56,687 Get off the street! 118 00:04:56,730 --> 00:04:58,341 [indistinct shouting] 119 00:04:58,384 --> 00:05:00,691 [distant sirens blaring] 120 00:05:00,734 --> 00:05:02,997 [suspenseful music] 121 00:05:03,041 --> 00:05:04,695 - A device had been placed outside 122 00:05:04,738 --> 00:05:06,087 of a demolition dumpster 123 00:05:06,131 --> 00:05:08,568 and had launched this demolition dumpster 124 00:05:08,612 --> 00:05:10,483 all the way across 23rd Street, 125 00:05:10,527 --> 00:05:14,835 about 125 feet downrange across two-way traffic 126 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:16,620 and into the sidewalk on the other side. 127 00:05:16,663 --> 00:05:19,057 - Did people get hurt? - A number of people were hurt. 128 00:05:19,100 --> 00:05:21,189 - Come with me. Come with me. 129 00:05:21,233 --> 00:05:22,408 Come with me. 130 00:05:22,452 --> 00:05:24,192 I'm holding you, okay? Come with me. 131 00:05:24,236 --> 00:05:25,411 You're okay. 132 00:05:25,455 --> 00:05:26,804 Nothing's going to happen. 133 00:05:26,847 --> 00:05:27,892 Okay? 134 00:05:27,935 --> 00:05:30,634 [sirens blaring] 135 00:05:30,677 --> 00:05:35,856 ♪ 136 00:05:35,900 --> 00:05:38,076 - About half an hour later, a lady comes out 137 00:05:38,119 --> 00:05:40,426 of her building on 27th Street, 138 00:05:40,470 --> 00:05:42,036 sees something suspicious in the garbage. 139 00:05:58,226 --> 00:06:01,229 - I was at the scene on 23rd Street. 140 00:06:01,273 --> 00:06:03,188 And my sergeant called, and he said, 141 00:06:03,231 --> 00:06:05,886 hey, we have a suspicious package up on 27th Street. 142 00:06:05,930 --> 00:06:10,282 And I said, Andy, a bomb just went off in Manhattan. 143 00:06:10,325 --> 00:06:12,763 Everything is gonna be a suspicious package. 144 00:06:12,806 --> 00:06:14,286 And he said, Boss, 145 00:06:14,329 --> 00:06:15,983 I'm looking at a pressure cooker 146 00:06:16,027 --> 00:06:18,072 with a cell phone taped to the top of it, 147 00:06:18,116 --> 00:06:20,640 and, like, a red light flashing and wires going inside. 148 00:06:20,684 --> 00:06:22,120 - Holy shit. There's another one. 149 00:06:22,163 --> 00:06:23,774 [suspenseful music] 150 00:06:23,817 --> 00:06:25,863 - Now we're sitting on a third device. 151 00:06:25,906 --> 00:06:29,649 We had this beautiful thing here. 152 00:06:29,693 --> 00:06:34,306 It's a ticking bomb, but it's intact. 153 00:06:34,349 --> 00:06:38,484 That is a potential bottomless pit of evidence, 154 00:06:38,528 --> 00:06:40,181 forensics, you know. 155 00:06:40,225 --> 00:06:41,487 - Yeah, for fingerprints or anything. 156 00:06:41,531 --> 00:06:42,619 - For everything. - Everything. 157 00:06:42,662 --> 00:06:43,794 - We want to know what's inside it. 158 00:06:43,837 --> 00:06:45,056 - Yeah. - Who touched it. 159 00:06:45,099 --> 00:06:46,971 Who had a hair fall off their head 160 00:06:47,014 --> 00:06:49,321 while they were closing it that could, you know, 161 00:06:49,364 --> 00:06:50,757 could get us the DNA. 162 00:06:50,801 --> 00:06:52,933 I mean, we wanted to know everything 163 00:06:52,976 --> 00:06:54,587 that device could tell us. 164 00:06:54,631 --> 00:06:57,938 We also had to get inside it, and this was-- 165 00:06:57,982 --> 00:07:01,420 this was a very diabolical bomb-maker, 166 00:07:01,464 --> 00:07:05,293 because it had been epoxied shut with this cement. 167 00:07:05,337 --> 00:07:07,426 It means that the bomb maker was saying, 168 00:07:07,470 --> 00:07:10,516 I want so much pressure that the top isn't gonna pop off, 169 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,387 that the pressure cooker itself-- 170 00:07:12,431 --> 00:07:14,477 the pot is gonna break into a million pieces, 171 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,480 and my shrapnel is gonna fly at, you know, 172 00:07:17,523 --> 00:07:21,440 15,000 feet per second and kill anyone nearby. 173 00:07:21,484 --> 00:07:23,703 But somebody had worked hard to make this deadly. 174 00:07:23,747 --> 00:07:25,705 There's opportunity there. 175 00:07:25,749 --> 00:07:27,620 [chuckles] It's also a little bit dangerous. 176 00:07:27,664 --> 00:07:29,187 - Because they'd use the robot? 177 00:07:29,230 --> 00:07:32,059 [upbeat music] 178 00:07:32,103 --> 00:07:34,497 ♪ 179 00:07:34,540 --> 00:07:36,803 - The bomb squad is operating the robot. 180 00:07:36,847 --> 00:07:40,503 The FBI agents and the detectives are saying, 181 00:07:40,546 --> 00:07:42,374 get us the phone. 182 00:07:42,417 --> 00:07:45,769 ♪ 183 00:07:45,812 --> 00:07:50,774 So the robot's claw cuts the wires on the phone, 184 00:07:50,817 --> 00:07:54,560 picks up the phone, turns around, 185 00:07:54,604 --> 00:07:56,997 and rolls slowly down the street, 186 00:07:57,041 --> 00:07:59,043 west on 27th Street. 187 00:07:59,086 --> 00:08:00,479 And at the end of the street, 188 00:08:00,523 --> 00:08:02,046 half a block from where the bomb is, 189 00:08:02,089 --> 00:08:04,265 There's a bomb squad detective with a bag, 190 00:08:04,309 --> 00:08:07,225 and the robot comes up with its claw, 191 00:08:07,268 --> 00:08:08,922 opens the claw. 192 00:08:08,966 --> 00:08:11,403 The phone drops into the bag. 193 00:08:11,446 --> 00:08:15,712 So that phone is rushed, like, right then and there. 194 00:08:15,755 --> 00:08:18,584 This phone and evidence from the post-blast scene 195 00:08:18,628 --> 00:08:20,238 on 23rd Street-- 196 00:08:20,281 --> 00:08:22,153 everything's going to Quantico. 197 00:08:22,196 --> 00:08:24,547 One lab, one team, one set of evidence, 198 00:08:24,590 --> 00:08:27,245 one chain of custody for that evidence. 199 00:08:27,288 --> 00:08:32,337 ♪ 200 00:08:32,380 --> 00:08:34,469 They called the whole explosive section 201 00:08:34,513 --> 00:08:37,515 of the lab in and said, stand by. 202 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:39,996 Evidence is going to be coming in in dribs and drabs, 203 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:41,912 'cause we got one post blast, 204 00:08:41,955 --> 00:08:44,349 and we got one hot, live device here. 205 00:08:44,392 --> 00:08:46,960 So we didn't know if we had one person-- 206 00:08:47,004 --> 00:08:48,658 - Or several. - Putting down bombs 207 00:08:48,701 --> 00:08:50,833 or several people putting down several bombs. 208 00:08:50,877 --> 00:08:54,228 - How did you end up linking the subject to that house? 209 00:08:54,272 --> 00:08:56,491 - The Jersey phone and the other phone are burners. 210 00:08:56,535 --> 00:08:59,277 And we eventually find out it came from a Dollar Store, 211 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,584 and it was a set of five, I think. 212 00:09:01,627 --> 00:09:02,933 - So what do you do then? 213 00:09:02,976 --> 00:09:04,674 - We have a house under surveillance 214 00:09:04,717 --> 00:09:06,414 that's above a chicken store. 215 00:09:06,458 --> 00:09:08,373 - And that, when one of the phones was activated, 216 00:09:08,416 --> 00:09:10,114 it was activated from that house. 217 00:09:10,157 --> 00:09:11,637 - So it was activated at that address, 218 00:09:11,681 --> 00:09:12,856 but there's a bunch of people there, right? 219 00:09:12,899 --> 00:09:14,248 - Yes. - So you have no clue 220 00:09:14,292 --> 00:09:16,250 who's gonna be the bad guy. 221 00:09:16,294 --> 00:09:17,948 - So at this point we're looking at the house 222 00:09:17,991 --> 00:09:21,125 and who's there, and there's a number of people, 223 00:09:21,168 --> 00:09:24,694 siblings, parents, and cousins, and husbands. 224 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,482 [ominous music] 225 00:09:30,525 --> 00:09:31,875 And this has taken a tremendous amount of work. 226 00:09:31,918 --> 00:09:34,399 This wasn't just the JTTF, right? 227 00:09:34,442 --> 00:09:37,358 We pulled in scores of agents from outside the JTTF, 228 00:09:37,402 --> 00:09:39,796 detectives from all over the NYPD 229 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:42,712 and just going block to block, giving them an assignment, 230 00:09:42,755 --> 00:09:46,019 pulling video, seeing who walked where, and going back. 231 00:09:46,063 --> 00:09:47,760 It's a very manual process. 232 00:09:47,804 --> 00:09:50,937 - We were doing an extensive video canvas, saying, 233 00:09:50,981 --> 00:09:53,374 let's go up and down all of these streets 234 00:09:53,418 --> 00:09:57,378 and try and figure out how did these things get here. 235 00:09:57,422 --> 00:09:59,642 And on 27th Street we get a couple of breaks. 236 00:10:02,688 --> 00:10:04,864 - We're able to pull video, and we could see 237 00:10:04,908 --> 00:10:07,084 a male pulling two rolling bags. 238 00:10:07,127 --> 00:10:08,825 He's wearing a backpack and a fanny pack. 239 00:10:08,868 --> 00:10:10,304 - Walks in. Just walking. 240 00:10:10,348 --> 00:10:11,218 - He's walking down the street, and he-- 241 00:10:11,262 --> 00:10:13,046 - No car. - Nope. 242 00:10:13,090 --> 00:10:15,222 He walks down the street, and he places the rolling bag 243 00:10:15,266 --> 00:10:18,051 next to the dumpster and walks away. 244 00:10:18,095 --> 00:10:22,447 Two gentlemen walked down the street, well-dressed. 245 00:10:22,490 --> 00:10:26,190 One of them spots the rolling bag in the garbage, 246 00:10:26,233 --> 00:10:29,715 pauses, picks it up, 247 00:10:29,759 --> 00:10:32,805 unzips it, takes out the bomb, 248 00:10:32,849 --> 00:10:34,372 and looks at it. - Are you kidding me? 249 00:10:34,415 --> 00:10:36,504 - I kid you not. 250 00:10:36,548 --> 00:10:38,202 - Who are these two guys? 251 00:10:38,245 --> 00:10:40,639 And we're thinking, the bomb didn't function, 252 00:10:40,683 --> 00:10:42,510 so they sent the second team, like, 253 00:10:42,554 --> 00:10:46,253 to flip the arming switch, to adjust the timer, 254 00:10:46,297 --> 00:10:49,213 to see what was wrong, which, in and of itself, 255 00:10:49,256 --> 00:10:50,867 is not a desirable job. 256 00:10:50,910 --> 00:10:52,912 Gee, the bomb didn't quite go off. 257 00:10:52,956 --> 00:10:54,653 Go play with it. - Yeah. 258 00:10:54,697 --> 00:10:56,263 I wouldn't want that job. 259 00:10:56,307 --> 00:10:58,091 - And they take the bomb, and like John described, 260 00:10:58,135 --> 00:10:59,745 it looks like a bomb 261 00:10:59,789 --> 00:11:01,268 from, like, the Road Runner cartoon, right? 262 00:11:01,312 --> 00:11:02,748 It looks like a bomb. 263 00:11:02,792 --> 00:11:04,141 - There's a pressure cooker with a telephone 264 00:11:04,184 --> 00:11:05,577 attached to the top of it. 265 00:11:05,620 --> 00:11:07,361 He puts that down. He picks up the bag. 266 00:11:07,405 --> 00:11:10,190 He holds it up, like "look what I got." 267 00:11:10,234 --> 00:11:12,715 It's a Louis Vuitton roller bag. 268 00:11:12,758 --> 00:11:15,979 And then they keep going down the street, talking like-- 269 00:11:16,022 --> 00:11:17,720 - Nothing happened. - Like nothing happened. 270 00:11:17,763 --> 00:11:19,417 - It wasn't really-- it was a knockoff, counterfeit. 271 00:11:19,460 --> 00:11:20,723 But-- - Knockoff. 272 00:11:20,766 --> 00:11:21,767 I was going to say, it's probably a knockoff. 273 00:11:21,811 --> 00:11:23,116 It's New York, yeah. 274 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,814 - But that becomes part of the debate, which is, 275 00:11:24,857 --> 00:11:27,033 we had a room full of agents and detectives, 276 00:11:27,077 --> 00:11:28,731 and the room splits down the middle, 277 00:11:28,774 --> 00:11:31,037 where half the room is saying, 278 00:11:31,081 --> 00:11:33,648 that's a guy who-- that guy's to arm the device. 279 00:11:33,692 --> 00:11:35,825 And other people are like, this is New York. 280 00:11:35,868 --> 00:11:38,392 It's garbage day. He's garbage-picking. 281 00:11:38,436 --> 00:11:42,788 But now we're pulling video and trying to backtrack 282 00:11:42,832 --> 00:11:44,703 to figure out, you know, 283 00:11:44,747 --> 00:11:45,965 where did these two gentlemen come from? 284 00:11:46,009 --> 00:11:46,966 Where did they go? 285 00:11:47,010 --> 00:11:48,446 Where did our bomber come from? 286 00:11:48,489 --> 00:11:49,926 Where did they go? 287 00:11:49,969 --> 00:11:55,192 - So when you guys saw the video of the guy bringing 288 00:11:55,235 --> 00:11:57,847 the roller bag and you potentially had that house, 289 00:11:57,890 --> 00:11:59,762 you know, in New Jersey with the family, 290 00:11:59,805 --> 00:12:02,199 did you ever show that video to the family 291 00:12:02,242 --> 00:12:04,767 to identify if that's a family member? 292 00:12:04,810 --> 00:12:06,029 - So we looked at the family members 293 00:12:06,072 --> 00:12:07,682 that we knew who were in the house 294 00:12:07,726 --> 00:12:11,425 and compared their photos to the video. 295 00:12:11,469 --> 00:12:12,775 - And you had two brothers. - Okay. 296 00:12:12,818 --> 00:12:14,254 Two brothers, okay. 297 00:12:14,298 --> 00:12:15,865 - So you had Ahmad, and you had his brother. 298 00:12:15,908 --> 00:12:20,608 And as we got more and more video of him 299 00:12:20,652 --> 00:12:23,698 in different places and clearer shots of the face-- 300 00:12:23,742 --> 00:12:25,178 and now you're looking at the two. 301 00:12:25,222 --> 00:12:27,267 You're like, is it this brother or that brother? 302 00:12:27,311 --> 00:12:30,009 You're like, no, it's that brother. 303 00:12:30,053 --> 00:12:32,403 - And it appeared to be Ahmad. 304 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:37,321 - We know somebody bought 305 00:12:37,364 --> 00:12:39,845 five burner phones in a store. 306 00:12:39,889 --> 00:12:42,108 We know we've got three phones attached 307 00:12:42,152 --> 00:12:46,069 to bombs that have already gone off or been rendered safe. 308 00:12:46,112 --> 00:12:48,027 It means there's a couple of more phones out there, 309 00:12:48,071 --> 00:12:51,248 which suggests there could be more bombs out there. 310 00:12:51,291 --> 00:12:53,424 - And in all likelihood, you have a bomb factory 311 00:12:53,467 --> 00:12:55,513 in a residential neighborhood in New Jersey. 312 00:12:55,556 --> 00:12:57,471 Well, you're not just gonna go knock on the door 313 00:12:57,515 --> 00:12:58,951 and say, where's Ahmad. 314 00:12:58,995 --> 00:13:01,040 - I remember hearing that the suspected bomber 315 00:13:01,084 --> 00:13:03,347 tested a bomb at the house or some-- 316 00:13:03,390 --> 00:13:04,914 or somewhere in New Jersey. 317 00:13:04,957 --> 00:13:08,047 - He was blowing stuff up in the backyard to figure out, 318 00:13:08,091 --> 00:13:10,658 like, is this bomb design functional? 319 00:13:10,702 --> 00:13:12,051 - Sure. 320 00:13:12,095 --> 00:13:14,271 - Is my mixture going to high order 321 00:13:14,314 --> 00:13:16,403 when it's time to blow up. 322 00:13:18,579 --> 00:13:20,320 [explosion booms] 323 00:13:20,364 --> 00:13:22,801 But we don't find that till later. 324 00:13:22,845 --> 00:13:25,238 We think we know who the bomber is. 325 00:13:25,282 --> 00:13:27,066 We have a house under surveillance 326 00:13:27,110 --> 00:13:28,807 that's above a chicken store, 327 00:13:28,851 --> 00:13:32,376 you know, in a Jersey town 328 00:13:32,419 --> 00:13:35,988 and a whole bunch of people come out. 329 00:13:36,032 --> 00:13:39,208 The surveillance team is saying, we got a male out, 330 00:13:39,252 --> 00:13:42,516 we've got a female out, we've got another male out, 331 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:44,388 groups getting into the car. 332 00:13:44,431 --> 00:13:47,913 I'm sitting there saying, okay, now what are we going to do? 333 00:13:47,957 --> 00:13:49,872 One of them looks like our guy. 334 00:13:49,915 --> 00:13:51,525 Confirmed it's our guy? 335 00:13:51,569 --> 00:13:53,571 Not confirmed it's our guy, looks like our guy. 336 00:13:53,614 --> 00:13:55,094 Car is on the move. 337 00:13:55,138 --> 00:13:57,140 We got a very good surveillance team. 338 00:13:57,183 --> 00:13:59,794 We've got elements of SWAT behind them, 339 00:13:59,838 --> 00:14:03,276 and then they get on the highway, 340 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,843 heading to New York City. 341 00:14:04,887 --> 00:14:06,279 And now it's really decision time. 342 00:14:06,323 --> 00:14:07,802 Here's the problem. 343 00:14:07,846 --> 00:14:10,849 I mean, these are people from New Jersey. 344 00:14:10,893 --> 00:14:12,024 If they go south, they're probably 345 00:14:12,068 --> 00:14:14,157 going to Kennedy Airport. 346 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,288 If they go north, they're probably 347 00:14:15,332 --> 00:14:16,899 coming into Manhattan. 348 00:14:16,942 --> 00:14:18,901 Neither one of those is a good option for us, 349 00:14:18,944 --> 00:14:20,511 so we've got to do this stop. 350 00:14:20,554 --> 00:14:21,599 - Right. 351 00:14:21,642 --> 00:14:22,948 - So what happened next? 352 00:14:22,992 --> 00:14:25,081 - Surveillance team drops back, 353 00:14:25,124 --> 00:14:29,259 SWAT ops, operatives, close in. 354 00:14:29,302 --> 00:14:30,956 They block the car off. 355 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,566 There's broken glass. 356 00:14:32,610 --> 00:14:35,743 There's flash-bangs, people pulled out of the cars. 357 00:14:35,787 --> 00:14:38,137 - The entire Belt Parkway is now jammed with traffic 358 00:14:38,181 --> 00:14:39,833 because there's these cars 359 00:14:39,878 --> 00:14:41,793 and people being yanked out and put on the ground 360 00:14:41,836 --> 00:14:43,186 and hands up. 361 00:14:43,229 --> 00:14:45,014 And everybody's got their cell phones, 362 00:14:45,057 --> 00:14:46,189 and they're filming this. 363 00:14:46,232 --> 00:14:47,407 And it's going to Twitter. 364 00:14:47,451 --> 00:14:48,974 It's going to YouTube. 365 00:14:49,018 --> 00:14:50,671 - And Ahmad's not there. 366 00:14:50,715 --> 00:14:53,674 [dramatic music] 367 00:14:53,718 --> 00:14:55,024 ♪ 368 00:14:55,067 --> 00:14:56,677 - We don't have our felony subject. 369 00:14:56,721 --> 00:14:58,723 We have a bunch of family members. 370 00:14:58,766 --> 00:15:03,423 And now, in the train station in Elizabeth, New Jersey, 371 00:15:03,467 --> 00:15:05,991 two homeless guys find a backpack. 372 00:15:06,035 --> 00:15:08,559 One of them happens to be looking for a backpack. 373 00:15:08,602 --> 00:15:10,648 He wants it for a job interview. 374 00:15:10,691 --> 00:15:13,520 So these two guys go be-boppin' down the street 375 00:15:13,564 --> 00:15:15,740 till they open the backpack, and there's pipes 376 00:15:15,783 --> 00:15:18,525 and there's wires and there's cell phones. 377 00:15:18,569 --> 00:15:21,180 And now we have another ticking bomb. 378 00:15:21,224 --> 00:15:24,444 [suspenseful music] 379 00:15:24,488 --> 00:15:26,229 - That's one of the other phones. 380 00:15:26,272 --> 00:15:28,100 - So there's a number of different devices 381 00:15:28,144 --> 00:15:29,754 of different designs, which is interesting. 382 00:15:29,797 --> 00:15:31,712 So these devices are not pressure cookers 383 00:15:31,756 --> 00:15:33,018 with phones on them. 384 00:15:33,062 --> 00:15:35,542 They're pipe bombs with fuses. - Okay. 385 00:15:35,586 --> 00:15:37,936 - We're not liking this guy because he knew 386 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:39,329 how to make a pressure cooker bomb 387 00:15:39,372 --> 00:15:41,766 with a certain explosive mix. 388 00:15:41,809 --> 00:15:43,986 He knew how to make another pressure cooker bomb 389 00:15:44,029 --> 00:15:46,205 with a different explosive mix. 390 00:15:46,249 --> 00:15:47,946 Now he's got pipe bombs. 391 00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:50,296 - They bring out the FBI robot. 392 00:15:50,340 --> 00:15:53,343 And again, they pull open the bag. 393 00:15:53,386 --> 00:15:54,997 The devices were so unstable-- 394 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,609 [explosion booms] 395 00:15:58,652 --> 00:16:01,525 They detonate, and it destroys the robot. 396 00:16:01,568 --> 00:16:03,744 - Oh, wow. - The entire robot-- 397 00:16:03,788 --> 00:16:05,355 they blew up-- it blew up the robot, 398 00:16:05,398 --> 00:16:06,834 killed the robot. 399 00:16:10,969 --> 00:16:12,753 - He got a full robotic funeral, though. 400 00:16:12,797 --> 00:16:14,364 [laughter] 401 00:16:14,407 --> 00:16:18,150 So it's not just a guy who went on the internet 402 00:16:18,194 --> 00:16:20,544 and figured out how to make a bomb. 403 00:16:20,587 --> 00:16:22,372 This seems to be a skilled bomb maker 404 00:16:22,415 --> 00:16:24,026 who knows how to make a number 405 00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:25,592 of different kinds of devices. 406 00:16:25,636 --> 00:16:27,942 It's the middle of the goddamn night. 407 00:16:27,986 --> 00:16:29,509 We don't have him. 408 00:16:29,553 --> 00:16:32,512 We're finding bombs in public transit places, 409 00:16:32,556 --> 00:16:35,298 and we have a rush hour coming Tuesday morning 410 00:16:35,341 --> 00:16:38,953 where 5.6 million people are going to crowd 411 00:16:38,997 --> 00:16:41,347 into the subway trains of New York, 412 00:16:41,391 --> 00:16:44,176 a million more into the New Jersey Transit system, 413 00:16:44,220 --> 00:16:47,179 and we have, literally, a mad bomber on the loose. 414 00:16:47,223 --> 00:16:49,094 - So we don't have him in-pocket. 415 00:16:49,138 --> 00:16:52,184 Now the presumption is he knows that we know, 416 00:16:52,228 --> 00:16:54,317 and so where are we doubling our efforts, 417 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,970 trying to find Ahmad? 418 00:16:56,014 --> 00:16:57,276 So this is truly a manhunt. 419 00:17:00,758 --> 00:17:03,717 [suspenseful music] 420 00:17:03,761 --> 00:17:06,719 ♪ 421 00:17:06,764 --> 00:17:10,376 - Meanwhile, at police headquarters, 422 00:17:10,420 --> 00:17:13,379 we're swearing in the new commissioner. 423 00:17:13,423 --> 00:17:17,382 His first day started at midnight the night before, 424 00:17:17,427 --> 00:17:20,516 and he's saying, we've been all this time 425 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,476 without a terrorist attack in New York City, since 9/11, 426 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,783 and on my first day we have one 427 00:17:25,825 --> 00:17:27,437 and now a mad bomber on the loose. 428 00:17:27,479 --> 00:17:29,830 He said, I need this guy to be caught 429 00:17:29,874 --> 00:17:31,136 before I'm sworn in, 430 00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:33,138 and I said, we're on it. 431 00:17:33,182 --> 00:17:36,185 - [chuckles] - And It's 5:00 in the morning. 432 00:17:36,228 --> 00:17:39,753 We've got a couple of thousand law enforcement people 433 00:17:39,797 --> 00:17:42,495 who know this guy's identity and are looking for him 434 00:17:42,539 --> 00:17:45,411 along with the FBI, the NYPD, 435 00:17:45,455 --> 00:17:49,154 the JTTF, the NSA, the CIA. 436 00:17:49,198 --> 00:17:51,287 I mean, there's no part of the intelligence community 437 00:17:51,330 --> 00:17:53,550 that isn't pulling threads on, where did this guy travel? 438 00:17:53,593 --> 00:17:55,682 Who does he know? Who does he call? 439 00:17:55,726 --> 00:17:57,423 All those wheels are turning. 440 00:17:57,467 --> 00:17:59,251 But at this point, we're sitting in the JOC, 441 00:17:59,295 --> 00:18:03,342 talking about, okay, so how do we get this 442 00:18:03,386 --> 00:18:06,432 to everybody who's not sitting in front of a television 443 00:18:06,476 --> 00:18:09,043 or listening to the radio in their car? 444 00:18:09,087 --> 00:18:11,785 And somebody says, you know that thing where 445 00:18:11,829 --> 00:18:14,353 all the phones go off and they make that terrible noise 446 00:18:14,397 --> 00:18:16,007 and they say, like, a storm is coming 447 00:18:16,050 --> 00:18:17,748 and here's the evacuation route? 448 00:18:17,791 --> 00:18:19,053 That's FEMA. 449 00:18:19,097 --> 00:18:20,664 It's like, who's FEMA? 450 00:18:20,707 --> 00:18:22,056 Federal Emergency Management. 451 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:23,928 That's Homeland Security. Homeland Security. 452 00:18:23,971 --> 00:18:25,408 We got Homeland Security there. 453 00:18:25,451 --> 00:18:27,540 Get FEMA on the phone. 454 00:18:27,584 --> 00:18:29,760 And we're talking to the FEMA guy, and we're saying, 455 00:18:29,803 --> 00:18:31,196 we need to put this out. 456 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,545 He said, that's not a weather alert. 457 00:18:32,589 --> 00:18:34,547 That's like a "wanted" thing, you know. 458 00:18:34,591 --> 00:18:37,159 Like, I know, but you guys have that button 459 00:18:37,202 --> 00:18:38,856 where you can make it to 50 miles 460 00:18:38,899 --> 00:18:40,423 or 100 miles or 150-- 461 00:18:40,466 --> 00:18:43,513 we need that entire Metropolitan area donut. 462 00:18:43,556 --> 00:18:46,168 We're talking New York, New Jersey, you know, 463 00:18:46,211 --> 00:18:47,604 the entire Metropolitan area. 464 00:18:47,647 --> 00:18:49,301 We need that to go to every phone, 465 00:18:49,345 --> 00:18:51,651 and you can make that happen-- 466 00:18:51,695 --> 00:18:54,611 this guy's picture, this guy's name. 467 00:18:54,654 --> 00:18:56,743 Find this guy. 468 00:18:56,787 --> 00:19:00,399 And the guy says, I'm going to have to get authorization 469 00:19:00,443 --> 00:19:02,096 because it's not weather. 470 00:19:02,140 --> 00:19:04,708 [chuckling] But we can't do a picture. 471 00:19:04,751 --> 00:19:06,188 Do you know what year it is? 472 00:19:06,231 --> 00:19:07,798 What do you mean you can't text out a picture? 473 00:19:07,841 --> 00:19:09,103 My kid's 12. 474 00:19:09,147 --> 00:19:10,540 He can text out a picture. 475 00:19:10,583 --> 00:19:13,107 And they said, sir, the system was designed 476 00:19:13,151 --> 00:19:15,545 with the carriers, and it carries 477 00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:18,591 a minimum amount of data, which is what they agreed to. 478 00:19:18,635 --> 00:19:21,768 And that doesn't write-- look, mister, 479 00:19:21,812 --> 00:19:23,814 we've never asked the general public, 480 00:19:23,857 --> 00:19:26,599 have you seen a storm that looks like this before? 481 00:19:26,643 --> 00:19:28,166 - So it wasn't an obvious call. 482 00:19:28,210 --> 00:19:29,907 You put somebody's face out 483 00:19:29,950 --> 00:19:32,214 and it's the wrong person, and that person either 484 00:19:32,257 --> 00:19:34,216 accelerates the violence, or maybe an act of violence 485 00:19:34,259 --> 00:19:37,219 is committed against him or somebody who looks like him. 486 00:19:37,262 --> 00:19:38,437 It was--it was a hard call. 487 00:19:38,481 --> 00:19:39,699 - But it was the right call. 488 00:19:39,743 --> 00:19:41,527 - Everybody's phone blows up. 489 00:19:41,571 --> 00:19:43,181 - BOLO alert. [alarm sounding] 490 00:19:43,225 --> 00:19:46,445 - And here's this thing-- find Ahmad Khan Rahimi. 491 00:19:46,489 --> 00:19:48,795 - And I remember seeing cable news, 492 00:19:48,839 --> 00:19:51,102 and the hosts look down at their phones 493 00:19:51,145 --> 00:19:52,451 because their phones all started-- 494 00:19:52,495 --> 00:19:53,713 - And they're all going off at-- 495 00:19:53,757 --> 00:19:54,932 - Right. - Outstanding. 496 00:19:54,975 --> 00:19:56,281 - So it went off on live TV. 497 00:19:56,325 --> 00:19:59,241 [suspenseful music] 498 00:19:59,284 --> 00:20:01,155 It was about half an hour later. 499 00:20:01,199 --> 00:20:03,114 We get this call from Linden, New Jersey. 500 00:20:03,157 --> 00:20:05,595 And so a business owner 501 00:20:05,638 --> 00:20:07,118 owns a bowling alley kind of bar. 502 00:20:07,161 --> 00:20:09,163 There's a person sleeping on his-- 503 00:20:09,207 --> 00:20:10,252 by the front door. 504 00:20:10,295 --> 00:20:12,863 So he called 911. 505 00:20:35,015 --> 00:20:37,017 - The police officer from Linden, New Jersey, pulls up. 506 00:20:37,061 --> 00:20:38,758 - So this is Angel Padilla. 507 00:20:38,802 --> 00:20:40,934 He's an ex-Marine. 508 00:20:40,978 --> 00:20:42,980 He wakes up that morning. 509 00:20:43,023 --> 00:20:46,723 He sees the BOLO and gets his ballistic helmet 510 00:20:46,766 --> 00:20:49,552 and puts it in the car and his other vest. 511 00:20:49,595 --> 00:20:53,077 And he tapes the picture of this guy to the dashboard, 512 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:56,298 and he gets the call of the homeless guy sleeping 513 00:20:56,341 --> 00:20:57,734 in the doorway. 514 00:21:36,903 --> 00:21:39,341 - As you watch the body camera video, 515 00:21:39,384 --> 00:21:41,908 if there was a noise that went off 516 00:21:41,952 --> 00:21:44,955 like when your head clicks, 517 00:21:44,998 --> 00:21:46,913 holy shit, that's the guy-- - Right. 518 00:21:46,957 --> 00:21:49,133 - You could almost hear it 519 00:21:49,176 --> 00:21:53,050 because you see Angel's demeanor change slightly. 520 00:21:53,093 --> 00:21:55,008 He goes to his radio, and he says-- 521 00:22:00,536 --> 00:22:01,667 - He calls another car. 522 00:22:01,711 --> 00:22:03,452 He says, are you out there? 523 00:22:03,495 --> 00:22:05,802 And nobody answers. 524 00:22:05,845 --> 00:22:06,933 [radio beeps] 525 00:22:42,447 --> 00:22:44,449 - Dispatch to 709. 526 00:22:54,981 --> 00:22:57,419 [ominous music] 527 00:22:57,462 --> 00:22:58,768 ♪ 528 00:22:58,811 --> 00:23:00,944 [gunshots bang] 529 00:23:09,126 --> 00:23:11,650 - Angel Padilla's hit. 530 00:23:11,694 --> 00:23:14,044 Meanwhile, a couple of blocks away, 531 00:23:14,087 --> 00:23:15,480 there's a cop named Hammer, 532 00:23:15,524 --> 00:23:18,962 is coming down in the SUV, sees Rahimi. 533 00:23:19,005 --> 00:23:20,703 Rahimi shoots at him. [gunshot bangs] 534 00:23:20,746 --> 00:23:22,487 The bullet goes through the window, 535 00:23:22,531 --> 00:23:25,229 hits his light package up at the top there, 536 00:23:25,272 --> 00:23:27,274 and ends up hitting him in the forehead. 537 00:23:27,318 --> 00:23:28,711 So he's been shot in the head. 538 00:23:28,754 --> 00:23:30,974 - Holy shit. Wow. - And he says, 539 00:23:31,017 --> 00:23:32,584 well, I don't have time to shoot at this guy, 540 00:23:32,628 --> 00:23:34,456 so he goes to run him over. 541 00:23:34,499 --> 00:23:38,460 And he just misses him, and Rahimi dodges the car 542 00:23:38,503 --> 00:23:40,244 and is still running and shooting 543 00:23:40,287 --> 00:23:42,420 as other officers are trying to set a perimeter 544 00:23:42,464 --> 00:23:44,596 around him, respond in. 545 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,208 And there's a brand-new rookie, also an ex-Marine. 546 00:23:48,252 --> 00:23:49,601 [gunshot bangs] Rahimi is firing at him 547 00:23:49,645 --> 00:23:50,776 from across the street. 548 00:23:50,820 --> 00:23:52,212 - They're shooting at the car! 549 00:23:55,651 --> 00:23:57,087 [gunshot bangs] 550 00:23:57,130 --> 00:23:58,262 [sirens blaring] 551 00:23:58,305 --> 00:24:00,917 [gunshot bangs] [indistinct] 552 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,571 [gunshot bangs] 553 00:24:08,881 --> 00:24:10,709 He's shooting [inaudible]. 554 00:24:10,753 --> 00:24:12,624 - As the rookie comes out with his gun, 555 00:24:12,668 --> 00:24:15,366 he remembers, oh, there's a rifle in this car, 556 00:24:15,409 --> 00:24:17,020 and I was a Marine. 557 00:24:17,063 --> 00:24:20,153 So he picks up the rifle, and he aims at Rahimi. 558 00:24:20,197 --> 00:24:22,112 - [inaudible] 559 00:24:31,817 --> 00:24:33,950 - And he fires the shots. 560 00:24:35,995 --> 00:24:39,216 [gunshots bang] 561 00:24:39,259 --> 00:24:41,000 And Rahimi is hit. 562 00:24:43,394 --> 00:24:45,875 [indistinct shouting] 563 00:24:54,144 --> 00:24:57,190 [suspenseful music] 564 00:24:57,234 --> 00:25:03,370 ♪ 565 00:25:03,414 --> 00:25:05,068 - Meanwhile, the new commissioner 566 00:25:05,111 --> 00:25:06,548 has taken the oath. 567 00:25:06,591 --> 00:25:08,550 We hand him an index card saying, 568 00:25:08,593 --> 00:25:11,988 "Suspect down, shot by cops in Linden, New Jersey, 569 00:25:12,031 --> 00:25:13,598 in custody." 570 00:25:13,642 --> 00:25:15,644 And he's like, okay, now I can get sworn in. 571 00:25:15,687 --> 00:25:17,428 [applause] 572 00:25:17,471 --> 00:25:19,125 - Our Counterterrorism and Intelligence Bureaus 573 00:25:19,169 --> 00:25:20,605 are second to none. 574 00:25:20,649 --> 00:25:22,520 We saw this in action on Saturday night 575 00:25:22,564 --> 00:25:25,523 when our personnel responded quickly and decisively 576 00:25:25,567 --> 00:25:27,612 to that blast in Chelsea. 577 00:25:27,656 --> 00:25:29,832 - There was a lot going on that day. 578 00:25:29,875 --> 00:25:31,485 [explosion booms] 579 00:25:31,529 --> 00:25:32,530 [glass shattering] 580 00:25:37,709 --> 00:25:40,582 [dramatic music] 581 00:25:40,625 --> 00:25:42,279 ♪ 582 00:25:42,322 --> 00:25:43,846 [gunshot bangs] 583 00:25:43,889 --> 00:25:50,809 ♪ 584 00:26:12,396 --> 00:26:16,269 - Going back to the two guys that were on the street 585 00:26:16,313 --> 00:26:18,315 that came out at dinner-- 586 00:26:18,358 --> 00:26:19,795 did you guys ever identify them? 587 00:26:19,838 --> 00:26:20,839 - They went to their room. 588 00:26:20,883 --> 00:26:22,275 They turned on the news. 589 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:24,234 They realized what they did 590 00:26:24,277 --> 00:26:25,888 and that they were in big trouble. 591 00:26:25,931 --> 00:26:28,020 So they went out the back of the hotel 592 00:26:28,064 --> 00:26:30,022 and threw it in a dumpster. 593 00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:31,676 So of course-- [laughs] 594 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,895 - They didn't take the fake Louis Vuitton. 595 00:26:32,938 --> 00:26:34,548 - They did not. - [laughs] 596 00:26:34,592 --> 00:26:35,724 - So, of course, they're like-- - And now we want the bag. 597 00:26:35,767 --> 00:26:36,855 - Yeah. - We want the bag. 598 00:26:36,899 --> 00:26:38,552 And so now we had agents and detectives 599 00:26:38,596 --> 00:26:41,338 tracking dumpsters to landfills, 600 00:26:41,381 --> 00:26:43,645 trying to recover the bag. 601 00:26:43,688 --> 00:26:50,564 ♪