1 00:00:03,916 --> 00:00:05,048 - I have nothing to do with al-Qaeda and-- 2 00:00:05,179 --> 00:00:06,571 any link or anything with al-Qaeda. 3 00:00:06,702 --> 00:00:08,660 - You've got a guy that was trained 4 00:00:08,791 --> 00:00:11,098 by al-Qaeda, a bombmaker, 5 00:00:11,228 --> 00:00:12,360 who's going to New York. 6 00:00:12,490 --> 00:00:14,101 This is a real deal. 7 00:00:14,231 --> 00:00:16,320 - We don't have that he's actually made a bomb, 8 00:00:16,451 --> 00:00:18,235 so we don't have enough to arrest him. 9 00:00:18,366 --> 00:00:21,760 - Are we just gonna let him drive into Manhattan? 10 00:00:21,891 --> 00:00:22,761 - We got everyone together, 11 00:00:22,892 --> 00:00:23,980 and we're ramping up 12 00:00:24,111 --> 00:00:26,243 like we've never ramped up before. 13 00:00:26,374 --> 00:00:29,290 We have bomb-making material. These are household chemicals. 14 00:00:29,420 --> 00:00:32,206 - It blows shit up really effectively. 15 00:00:32,336 --> 00:00:34,512 That's when all of our suspicions 16 00:00:34,643 --> 00:00:35,992 were just... boom. 17 00:00:37,428 --> 00:00:40,910 All of a sudden, we have just been compromised 18 00:00:41,041 --> 00:00:42,390 - It was an "oh shit" moment. 19 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,739 - It's growing exponentially. 20 00:00:43,869 --> 00:00:45,262 Every time this guy makes a stop, 21 00:00:45,393 --> 00:00:46,742 the case gets bigger. 22 00:00:46,872 --> 00:00:48,439 You get a backpack. You get a backpack. 23 00:00:48,570 --> 00:00:50,267 Everybody get on the subway and blow something up. 24 00:00:50,398 --> 00:00:53,140 The last thing you want on your watch 25 00:00:53,270 --> 00:00:55,664 is another smoking crater in New York. 26 00:01:02,758 --> 00:01:05,500 - In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines. 27 00:01:05,630 --> 00:01:08,459 [suspenseful music] 28 00:01:08,590 --> 00:01:15,031 Drug busts, mob stings, terrorist takedowns... 29 00:01:15,162 --> 00:01:16,554 - Get down! Get down! 30 00:01:16,685 --> 00:01:18,252 - We understand why people want 31 00:01:18,382 --> 00:01:19,862 to tell stories about us. 32 00:01:19,992 --> 00:01:21,255 - Mark it. - Freeze. 33 00:01:21,385 --> 00:01:22,821 - FBI. - FBI! 34 00:01:22,952 --> 00:01:24,780 - Action! - But they don't know 35 00:01:24,910 --> 00:01:27,217 the half of it. 36 00:01:27,348 --> 00:01:29,132 What really goes down? 37 00:01:29,263 --> 00:01:31,613 We save that for each other 38 00:01:31,743 --> 00:01:34,181 when we're talking agent to agent. 39 00:01:36,487 --> 00:01:39,751 This is "FBI True." 40 00:01:44,669 --> 00:01:47,497 [uneasy music] 41 00:01:47,628 --> 00:01:49,239 ♪ 42 00:01:49,370 --> 00:01:53,025 - Kristy Kottis is a 15-year veteran of the FBI. 43 00:01:53,156 --> 00:01:56,116 She worked gangs, crimes against children, 44 00:01:56,246 --> 00:01:58,509 as well as human and drug trafficking. 45 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,207 Kottis was the supervisor 46 00:02:00,337 --> 00:02:02,209 of the FBI's threat response squad, 47 00:02:02,339 --> 00:02:04,298 overseeing the bureau's response 48 00:02:04,428 --> 00:02:06,604 to terrorism threats in New York City. 49 00:02:06,735 --> 00:02:09,128 - September 9th, 2009. - Yeah. 50 00:02:09,259 --> 00:02:11,870 - It's close to 9/11, which is a huge day 51 00:02:12,001 --> 00:02:13,742 in New York and in the FBI. 52 00:02:13,872 --> 00:02:15,091 Rich, what are you doing? 53 00:02:15,222 --> 00:02:16,614 - We're coming up on 9/11, 54 00:02:16,745 --> 00:02:19,791 so we're getting ready for the 9/11... anniversary. 55 00:02:19,922 --> 00:02:21,271 Not only are we dealing 56 00:02:21,402 --> 00:02:24,579 with just the mental knowledge of 9/11, 57 00:02:24,709 --> 00:02:26,537 but also, hey, it's a threat day, 58 00:02:26,668 --> 00:02:28,365 and we have to be prepared for it, 59 00:02:28,496 --> 00:02:30,193 so we're running out on every threat we have 60 00:02:30,324 --> 00:02:31,499 and doing all that. 61 00:02:31,629 --> 00:02:33,675 - Richard Frankel got his start in the FBI 62 00:02:33,805 --> 00:02:36,634 investigating the infamous Gambino crime family. 63 00:02:36,765 --> 00:02:38,636 After the attacks on 9/11, 64 00:02:38,767 --> 00:02:40,508 he moved into national security. 65 00:02:40,638 --> 00:02:43,075 By 2009, Frankel was responsible 66 00:02:43,206 --> 00:02:44,903 for domestic terrorist threats 67 00:02:45,034 --> 00:02:46,949 at the FBI's New York field office. 68 00:02:47,079 --> 00:02:49,343 He rose to become associate director 69 00:02:49,473 --> 00:02:51,127 of national intelligence. 70 00:02:51,258 --> 00:02:52,868 - Richie and I were both ASACs at the time, 71 00:02:52,998 --> 00:02:55,131 and I think--you'll agree-- 72 00:02:55,262 --> 00:02:57,916 the ASAC desk is the confluence of everything shitty 73 00:02:58,047 --> 00:02:59,962 in the FBI, right? 74 00:03:00,092 --> 00:03:02,094 Every threat, everything that can go wrong. 75 00:03:02,225 --> 00:03:03,705 - Every administrative problem, 76 00:03:03,835 --> 00:03:06,360 every issue that comes in. - Anything that can go wrong 77 00:03:06,490 --> 00:03:07,839 comes through the ASAC desk, 78 00:03:07,970 --> 00:03:09,885 and it's--you know, it's a tough job. 79 00:03:10,015 --> 00:03:11,626 - Don Borelli worked cases 80 00:03:11,756 --> 00:03:14,933 ranging from drug trafficking to white-collar crime. 81 00:03:15,064 --> 00:03:17,022 He supervised FBI operations 82 00:03:17,153 --> 00:03:19,199 in Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria. 83 00:03:19,329 --> 00:03:21,810 By 2009, Borelli oversaw 84 00:03:21,940 --> 00:03:23,986 international terrorism investigations 85 00:03:24,116 --> 00:03:26,206 in Canada, Africa, and western Europe. 86 00:03:26,336 --> 00:03:28,338 He investigated domestic bombers, 87 00:03:28,469 --> 00:03:29,644 Somali pirates, 88 00:03:29,774 --> 00:03:31,602 and al-Qaeda operatives. 89 00:03:31,733 --> 00:03:38,435 ♪ 90 00:03:39,436 --> 00:03:43,571 - The phone rings... [phone ringing] 91 00:03:43,701 --> 00:03:47,183 And it's one of my counterparts from FBI headquarters. 92 00:03:47,314 --> 00:03:50,752 And he says, "Do you know about Najibullah Zazi?" 93 00:03:50,882 --> 00:03:53,798 I'm like, "Who's Najibullah Zazi?" 94 00:03:53,929 --> 00:03:55,409 Like, no. 95 00:03:55,539 --> 00:03:57,062 I put the phone down. 96 00:03:57,192 --> 00:03:58,542 It run into the SCIF 97 00:03:58,673 --> 00:04:00,892 so I could read the highly sensitive stuff, 98 00:04:01,023 --> 00:04:04,374 'cause it was all coming in-- a lot of it was TS information. 99 00:04:04,505 --> 00:04:06,594 The original information came from the Brits. 100 00:04:06,724 --> 00:04:09,205 [electronic music] 101 00:04:09,336 --> 00:04:11,207 They're keying on this email address 102 00:04:11,338 --> 00:04:13,992 that they know is an al-Qaeda operative, 103 00:04:14,123 --> 00:04:15,124 and they've been monitoring it. 104 00:04:15,255 --> 00:04:17,648 So, all of a sudden, it pings, 105 00:04:17,779 --> 00:04:20,781 and it's this guy, Najibullah Zazi. 106 00:04:20,911 --> 00:04:22,784 They trace him to the U.S.. 107 00:04:22,914 --> 00:04:24,742 Al-Qaeda-trained guy 108 00:04:24,873 --> 00:04:28,006 with some explosive training. 109 00:04:28,137 --> 00:04:30,966 So the Brits crunch the information. 110 00:04:31,096 --> 00:04:33,316 They send it over to FBI headquarters. 111 00:04:33,447 --> 00:04:36,363 ♪ 112 00:04:36,493 --> 00:04:37,929 The assumption is, the guy's a bombmaker 113 00:04:38,060 --> 00:04:40,062 until proven otherwise. 114 00:04:40,192 --> 00:04:43,195 The FBI start doing all their analysis, 115 00:04:43,326 --> 00:04:47,025 figure out, then, that he is now in Denver. 116 00:04:49,506 --> 00:04:52,422 Denver starts doing surveillance, 117 00:04:52,553 --> 00:04:54,250 and at some point, 118 00:04:54,381 --> 00:04:56,470 he actually makes a phone call, 119 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,081 calling back to one of his handlers 120 00:04:59,211 --> 00:05:02,302 to get clarification on the bombmaking recipe 121 00:05:02,432 --> 00:05:04,869 that you can make from these chemicals 122 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,871 you could get in a beauty supply store. 123 00:05:07,002 --> 00:05:08,873 And there were phone calls and talk about the, you know, 124 00:05:09,004 --> 00:05:10,484 the "wedding cake." 125 00:05:10,614 --> 00:05:12,312 It was like one of those old-time code words 126 00:05:12,442 --> 00:05:14,314 you don't think anybody uses anymore 127 00:05:14,444 --> 00:05:15,663 for--in explosives. - Mm-hmm. 128 00:05:15,793 --> 00:05:16,794 All these specifics. 129 00:05:16,925 --> 00:05:19,101 I mean, we don't get these specifics. 130 00:05:19,231 --> 00:05:21,103 You never get those specifics in a case. 131 00:05:21,233 --> 00:05:23,714 - We got the notification that Najibullah 132 00:05:23,845 --> 00:05:25,020 was in the car 133 00:05:25,150 --> 00:05:27,022 driving to New York. 134 00:05:27,152 --> 00:05:28,850 All of the information we had 135 00:05:28,980 --> 00:05:30,504 was in classified channels. 136 00:05:30,634 --> 00:05:33,289 Once you make an arrest, due process applies, 137 00:05:33,420 --> 00:05:35,073 and all that stuff goes public, 138 00:05:35,204 --> 00:05:36,597 and we're not ready to do that 139 00:05:36,727 --> 00:05:38,425 'cause we need to know more details. 140 00:05:38,555 --> 00:05:39,991 You know, the main thing is, where is he going, 141 00:05:40,122 --> 00:05:41,819 and what is his intent? 142 00:05:41,950 --> 00:05:42,994 That was, like, the key question. 143 00:05:43,125 --> 00:05:44,039 What is his intent? 144 00:05:44,169 --> 00:05:45,040 - How are you feeling, Don? 145 00:05:45,170 --> 00:05:46,607 It's getting towards 9/11. 146 00:05:46,737 --> 00:05:50,045 - You know, the last thing you want on your watch 147 00:05:50,175 --> 00:05:51,916 is another smoking crater in New York. 148 00:05:52,047 --> 00:05:54,919 [somber music] 149 00:05:55,050 --> 00:05:56,138 ♪ 150 00:05:56,268 --> 00:05:57,531 - Two commercial jet liners 151 00:05:57,661 --> 00:05:59,228 crashed into the World Trade Center 152 00:05:59,359 --> 00:06:00,490 here in New York City 153 00:06:00,621 --> 00:06:02,144 and sent the giant twin towers, 154 00:06:02,274 --> 00:06:03,537 filled with workers, 155 00:06:03,667 --> 00:06:05,190 crumbling to the ground. 156 00:06:07,976 --> 00:06:09,673 - Not even just 9/11. 157 00:06:09,804 --> 00:06:12,284 We've had several instances in New York 158 00:06:12,415 --> 00:06:16,376 of real attempts or real successes 159 00:06:16,506 --> 00:06:17,725 where terrorists have been able 160 00:06:17,855 --> 00:06:19,030 to light off a bomb in New York. 161 00:06:19,161 --> 00:06:21,381 - At 12:18 p.m., 162 00:06:21,511 --> 00:06:23,818 World Trade Center tower number one 163 00:06:23,948 --> 00:06:25,646 became a tower of smoke. 164 00:06:25,776 --> 00:06:28,257 - I was a prosecutor before I joined the FBI. 165 00:06:28,388 --> 00:06:29,563 I was having a great life. 166 00:06:29,693 --> 00:06:31,216 Suffolk County district attorney's office. 167 00:06:31,347 --> 00:06:33,480 In 1993, 168 00:06:33,610 --> 00:06:36,265 the first bomb went off at the World Trade Center, 169 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:38,223 and I watched it on TV, 170 00:06:38,354 --> 00:06:40,095 and I said on that day, 171 00:06:40,225 --> 00:06:41,836 "I'm going to join the FBI." 172 00:06:41,966 --> 00:06:46,014 - You're both in charge of operational response, 173 00:06:46,144 --> 00:06:47,537 tactically and investigatively. 174 00:06:47,668 --> 00:06:50,148 You're the first line of, like you said, 175 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,715 tomfuckery that's gonna happen. 176 00:06:51,846 --> 00:06:54,501 - But you don't have enough to arrest Zazi. 177 00:06:54,631 --> 00:06:56,677 - Didn't we have some surveillance film 178 00:06:56,807 --> 00:06:59,419 of him in Walmart, buying some products? 179 00:06:59,549 --> 00:07:00,594 - It might've been-- - It was a beauty supply place 180 00:07:00,724 --> 00:07:01,682 in Denver 181 00:07:01,812 --> 00:07:02,683 a few weeks earlier, 182 00:07:02,813 --> 00:07:04,424 before he drove to New York. 183 00:07:04,554 --> 00:07:05,947 And then he got picked up by the Denver office 184 00:07:06,077 --> 00:07:07,644 at that point. 185 00:07:07,775 --> 00:07:09,385 They interview him with a lawyer, 186 00:07:09,516 --> 00:07:11,518 but they don't have enough to hold him. 187 00:07:11,648 --> 00:07:13,433 We don't have that he's actually made a bomb, 188 00:07:13,563 --> 00:07:16,348 but we've got real good information 189 00:07:16,479 --> 00:07:17,915 that he wants to. - Yeah. 190 00:07:18,046 --> 00:07:20,091 - But there's no overt act that we've observed 191 00:07:20,222 --> 00:07:21,484 that he's committed. 192 00:07:21,615 --> 00:07:23,486 And we didn't know if there was a spider web, 193 00:07:23,617 --> 00:07:24,748 if he had other people at this point. 194 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:25,749 - Right. - You know, 195 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,968 did it go further out? 196 00:07:27,098 --> 00:07:29,797 - So how are we monitoring this cat? 197 00:07:29,927 --> 00:07:33,278 - First order of business is, we gotta follow this guy. 198 00:07:33,409 --> 00:07:36,064 He's in a car, and he's going to New York, 199 00:07:36,194 --> 00:07:38,457 so you're handing him off 200 00:07:38,588 --> 00:07:40,503 as he's driving from Denver. 201 00:07:40,634 --> 00:07:43,201 - We have field offices all across the United States 202 00:07:43,332 --> 00:07:45,334 coming into New York. 203 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:48,468 So as Najibullah Zazi's driving, 204 00:07:48,598 --> 00:07:50,339 we're just handing it off from one surveillance team 205 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:52,297 to another surveillance team. 206 00:07:52,428 --> 00:07:53,734 We're able to go from field office 207 00:07:53,864 --> 00:07:55,082 to field office, 208 00:07:55,213 --> 00:07:56,606 as opposed from department to department. 209 00:07:56,737 --> 00:07:59,087 And also, we had helicopters in the air. 210 00:07:59,217 --> 00:08:01,698 We had planes in the air. 211 00:08:01,829 --> 00:08:03,744 This was a full surveillance blowout. 212 00:08:03,874 --> 00:08:05,702 - He's in the car. He's coming to New York, 213 00:08:05,833 --> 00:08:08,836 and we're learning more and more as he gets closer. 214 00:08:08,966 --> 00:08:12,492 - You got a bombmaker. He's going to New York. 215 00:08:12,622 --> 00:08:14,798 Are we just gonna let him 216 00:08:14,929 --> 00:08:16,104 drive into Manhattan? 217 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:21,979 - We put a team at every crossing, which-- 218 00:08:22,110 --> 00:08:23,285 there are only about five, 219 00:08:23,415 --> 00:08:24,808 but we put it at every crossing, 220 00:08:24,939 --> 00:08:26,810 so all the bridges and tunnels 221 00:08:26,941 --> 00:08:31,162 that you would come across from New Jersey 222 00:08:31,293 --> 00:08:33,251 into New York, we had a team there. 223 00:08:33,381 --> 00:08:35,123 - Eventually, he comes to New York. 224 00:08:35,253 --> 00:08:37,255 He bypasses the tunnels. 225 00:08:37,385 --> 00:08:39,693 He goes over to the George Washington Bridge. 226 00:08:39,823 --> 00:08:42,477 [suspenseful music] 227 00:08:43,566 --> 00:08:45,742 - And the Port Authority is there, 228 00:08:45,873 --> 00:08:49,703 and they are stopping cars on a random basis. 229 00:08:49,833 --> 00:08:51,095 - "Random." 230 00:08:51,226 --> 00:08:52,401 - We want it to look routine. 231 00:08:52,532 --> 00:08:53,968 If the FBI stops him, 232 00:08:54,098 --> 00:08:55,622 it could tip him off 233 00:08:55,752 --> 00:08:58,407 and cause him and other operatives to react. 234 00:08:58,538 --> 00:09:00,496 So finally, he comes to the bridge, 235 00:09:00,627 --> 00:09:01,802 and he's stopped. 236 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:06,937 And they have a dog walk around the car. 237 00:09:07,068 --> 00:09:09,549 And they're just looking for anything suspicious. 238 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,814 - The dog circles. The officer looks in the car. 239 00:09:13,944 --> 00:09:16,077 Nothing jumps out. 240 00:09:16,207 --> 00:09:17,731 And... 241 00:09:17,861 --> 00:09:21,169 - The problem is that the dog is not trained 242 00:09:21,299 --> 00:09:22,431 for these chemicals 243 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:23,998 because it's not put together as a bomb. 244 00:09:24,128 --> 00:09:26,304 - And the K-9 officer 245 00:09:26,435 --> 00:09:28,306 didn't know all the details 246 00:09:28,437 --> 00:09:30,047 because he wasn't cleared 247 00:09:30,178 --> 00:09:32,136 because there was so much classified information. 248 00:09:32,267 --> 00:09:35,183 - Any mention of chemicals or a bomb-- 249 00:09:35,313 --> 00:09:36,227 that's all classified. 250 00:09:36,358 --> 00:09:38,186 - The decision is made. 251 00:09:38,316 --> 00:09:41,189 We don't really have a choice but to let him 252 00:09:41,319 --> 00:09:43,104 continue his journey 253 00:09:43,234 --> 00:09:45,280 and... - And they let him go. 254 00:09:45,410 --> 00:09:46,760 - The show goes on. - Yeah. 255 00:09:46,890 --> 00:09:49,719 [tense electronic music] 256 00:09:49,850 --> 00:09:51,155 ♪ 257 00:09:51,286 --> 00:09:53,244 - We're ramping up like, you know, 258 00:09:53,375 --> 00:09:54,811 we've never ramped up before. 259 00:09:54,942 --> 00:09:56,247 We're following Naji, 260 00:09:56,378 --> 00:09:58,162 and we're trying to piece together his network. 261 00:09:58,293 --> 00:09:59,860 - I mean, this stuff has come in so fast, 262 00:09:59,990 --> 00:10:01,513 you know, just like the timing of everything. 263 00:10:01,644 --> 00:10:03,211 - Oh, yeah, I remember it was like crazy. 264 00:10:03,341 --> 00:10:05,648 - You've got the analysts. They're trying to figure out 265 00:10:05,779 --> 00:10:07,737 as much as they can about Najibullah Zazi. 266 00:10:07,868 --> 00:10:09,304 He grew up in New York. 267 00:10:09,434 --> 00:10:11,088 He had a job in New York. 268 00:10:11,219 --> 00:10:13,221 - But we wanna know if there's other people involved. 269 00:10:13,351 --> 00:10:14,526 He's a bad actor, 270 00:10:14,657 --> 00:10:16,398 but does he have a supporting cast? 271 00:10:16,528 --> 00:10:18,748 - The analysts identified two friends: 272 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:22,099 Adis Medunjanin and Zarein Ahmedzay. 273 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:23,623 - Adis is a doorman, 274 00:10:23,753 --> 00:10:26,103 and Zarein is a taxicab driver. 275 00:10:26,234 --> 00:10:28,758 - The analysts--they're looking at travel records. 276 00:10:28,889 --> 00:10:30,325 They're looking at financial statements. 277 00:10:30,455 --> 00:10:31,892 They're looking at phone records. 278 00:10:32,022 --> 00:10:35,678 And the analysts were able to identify 279 00:10:35,809 --> 00:10:38,855 that Zazi and his two coconspirators 280 00:10:38,986 --> 00:10:40,857 had traveled to Pakistan to do training. 281 00:10:40,988 --> 00:10:46,602 ♪ 282 00:10:46,733 --> 00:10:49,779 You've got a guy that was trained by al-Qaeda. 283 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:51,825 We didn't know the full extent of the training, 284 00:10:51,955 --> 00:10:54,436 but we could surmise that it was bombmaking. 285 00:10:54,566 --> 00:10:57,918 We're watching Najibullah. 286 00:10:58,048 --> 00:11:02,226 We're also doing surveillance on Adis and Zarein. 287 00:11:02,357 --> 00:11:05,577 And Najibullah-- anybody he talks to, 288 00:11:05,708 --> 00:11:07,797 they're radioactive at this point. 289 00:11:07,928 --> 00:11:10,321 We think he wants to blow something up, 290 00:11:10,452 --> 00:11:11,671 but we don't know what. 291 00:11:11,801 --> 00:11:12,759 We don't know how many people 292 00:11:12,889 --> 00:11:14,456 he's got with him that are gonna help. 293 00:11:14,586 --> 00:11:17,241 So ultimately, he winds up at what I call 294 00:11:17,372 --> 00:11:19,026 a flophouse. 295 00:11:19,156 --> 00:11:22,159 He had a room with I don't know how many other... 296 00:11:22,290 --> 00:11:23,378 I mean... - Oh, that was-- 297 00:11:23,508 --> 00:11:24,901 - 10, 12 guys that--I think 298 00:11:25,032 --> 00:11:26,773 they were mostly all taxi drivers. 299 00:11:26,903 --> 00:11:28,818 But you don't know if these guys 300 00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:30,907 are all part of the master plot. 301 00:11:31,038 --> 00:11:32,126 He's staying there, 302 00:11:32,256 --> 00:11:33,127 so, you know, you've got to assume 303 00:11:33,257 --> 00:11:35,346 maybe they're culpable 304 00:11:35,477 --> 00:11:37,697 and, you know, coconspirators along with him. 305 00:11:37,827 --> 00:11:40,525 So this thing--I mean, it's growing exponentially. 306 00:11:40,656 --> 00:11:42,005 Every time this guy makes a stop, 307 00:11:42,136 --> 00:11:46,880 the case gets bigger. 308 00:11:48,011 --> 00:11:50,405 [suspenseful music] 309 00:11:50,535 --> 00:11:52,189 - It's September 11th. 310 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,324 Najibullah--his car's out on the street. 311 00:11:56,454 --> 00:11:58,848 They see him-- I think his suitcase. 312 00:11:58,979 --> 00:12:01,677 He puts some stuff in the trunk of his car, 313 00:12:01,808 --> 00:12:03,287 and he leaves, 314 00:12:03,418 --> 00:12:04,985 not in his car. 315 00:12:05,115 --> 00:12:06,856 He leaves, going into the subway system. 316 00:12:08,249 --> 00:12:09,946 - Right. He's a New Yorker. 317 00:12:10,077 --> 00:12:13,994 No New Yorker actually drives in the city. 318 00:12:14,124 --> 00:12:16,387 - So you've got kind of two things going on 319 00:12:16,518 --> 00:12:17,606 at the same time. 320 00:12:17,737 --> 00:12:19,477 Where is he going? You have to follow him. 321 00:12:19,608 --> 00:12:21,741 And now we've got his car... 322 00:12:21,871 --> 00:12:23,351 - By itself. - By itself... 323 00:12:23,481 --> 00:12:25,614 - Just sitting there. - Just sitting there. 324 00:12:25,745 --> 00:12:26,876 But we gotta see what's in that car. 325 00:12:27,007 --> 00:12:28,138 We know that there's something in there. 326 00:12:28,269 --> 00:12:29,574 - But you don't want to tip him off 327 00:12:29,705 --> 00:12:31,185 that you're on to him. 328 00:12:31,315 --> 00:12:33,100 - Finally, it became pretty evident 329 00:12:33,230 --> 00:12:35,537 that this is an opportunity that we can't pass up. 330 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:36,668 Let's grab the car. 331 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:38,801 There are very few opportunities 332 00:12:38,932 --> 00:12:41,369 that you get in the FBI, I think, 333 00:12:41,499 --> 00:12:44,459 where you can really save lives by decisions you make, 334 00:12:44,589 --> 00:12:47,636 and that turned out to be one of the most critical 335 00:12:47,767 --> 00:12:49,377 correct decisions 336 00:12:49,507 --> 00:12:50,595 made in the case. 337 00:12:50,726 --> 00:12:52,206 - We tow the car. 338 00:12:57,211 --> 00:12:59,604 And we bring it to a Port Authority hangar 339 00:12:59,735 --> 00:13:00,997 out of LaGuardia. 340 00:13:01,128 --> 00:13:03,043 We bring in our evidence response team. 341 00:13:03,173 --> 00:13:05,828 In a span of approximately six hours, 342 00:13:05,959 --> 00:13:08,004 they toss the entire car, 343 00:13:08,135 --> 00:13:09,092 but then they put it together 344 00:13:09,223 --> 00:13:11,138 exactly how they found it. 345 00:13:11,268 --> 00:13:12,487 Then they bring it to an impound yard 346 00:13:12,617 --> 00:13:14,881 because we wanna create the impression 347 00:13:15,011 --> 00:13:16,796 that the car has been towed 348 00:13:16,926 --> 00:13:18,841 from an illegal parking spot. 349 00:13:18,972 --> 00:13:20,843 One of the items we take out is the computer, 350 00:13:20,974 --> 00:13:23,019 and they mirror the computer. 351 00:13:23,150 --> 00:13:25,065 They copied everything on the hard drive. 352 00:13:25,195 --> 00:13:26,806 - This was into the evening now. 353 00:13:26,936 --> 00:13:28,938 Go home, maybe get a little sleep. 354 00:13:29,069 --> 00:13:31,506 There's no smoking craters in Manhattan. 355 00:13:31,636 --> 00:13:34,204 Let's go get a beer, and then we're gonna go home. 356 00:13:34,335 --> 00:13:36,467 I'm driving back to my apartment 357 00:13:36,598 --> 00:13:37,947 in the city, and I get a call, 358 00:13:38,078 --> 00:13:39,601 and he says, "You gotta come back." 359 00:13:39,731 --> 00:13:40,863 - Ugh. - I'm like, "What?" 360 00:13:40,994 --> 00:13:41,777 - It's the worst. - He's like, 361 00:13:41,908 --> 00:13:43,083 "You gotta come back." 362 00:13:43,213 --> 00:13:44,345 - And I'm like, "What's the problem? 363 00:13:44,475 --> 00:13:45,346 And he goes, "We have bombmaking material 364 00:13:45,476 --> 00:13:48,044 on the computer." 365 00:13:48,175 --> 00:13:49,480 Handwritten notes that had been scanned 366 00:13:49,611 --> 00:13:50,655 into the computer, 367 00:13:50,786 --> 00:13:52,396 and they look real. 368 00:13:52,527 --> 00:13:54,921 - These were lab notes. These were chemistry notes. 369 00:13:55,051 --> 00:13:57,314 So I remember, on the phone, describing 370 00:13:57,445 --> 00:13:59,534 to the chemist what's going on and all this. 371 00:13:59,664 --> 00:14:01,405 They said, "This is TATP." 372 00:14:01,536 --> 00:14:04,974 At that point, that is when all of our suspicions 373 00:14:05,105 --> 00:14:07,585 were just, boom, that-- - What's TATP? 374 00:14:07,716 --> 00:14:10,110 Why is it important? Why do we care that it's TATP? 375 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,112 - It blows shit up really effectively. 376 00:14:12,242 --> 00:14:14,549 You can make it out of hydrogen peroxide. 377 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,378 You distill it down. It becomes very volatile. 378 00:14:17,508 --> 00:14:19,293 And it's used-- a lot of times, they'll use it 379 00:14:19,423 --> 00:14:20,511 in suicide vests, 380 00:14:20,642 --> 00:14:21,861 things like that, 381 00:14:21,991 --> 00:14:24,167 because you can then put shrapnel, 382 00:14:24,298 --> 00:14:26,387 nails, whatever, and it becomes 383 00:14:26,517 --> 00:14:29,564 a very effective bomb used like that. 384 00:14:29,694 --> 00:14:31,740 - Has this ever been used in other terrorist events? 385 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:33,524 - Yes. TATP was used to bomb 386 00:14:33,655 --> 00:14:34,917 the subways in Madrid. 387 00:14:36,919 --> 00:14:39,443 - 191 people were killed 388 00:14:39,574 --> 00:14:41,619 and more than 1,800 others were injured. 389 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:43,708 - Then al-Qaeda used the same sort of bomb 390 00:14:43,839 --> 00:14:45,406 a year later in London. 391 00:14:45,536 --> 00:14:47,408 - 52 innocent lives were taken, 392 00:14:47,538 --> 00:14:48,844 many more injured. 393 00:14:48,975 --> 00:14:50,280 - These are household chemicals. 394 00:14:50,411 --> 00:14:51,978 You can buy them at Home Depot. 395 00:14:52,108 --> 00:14:52,935 You can buy them at a beauty salon. 396 00:14:53,066 --> 00:14:54,415 You can buy them at a pool store. 397 00:14:54,545 --> 00:14:55,851 So what happens? 398 00:14:55,982 --> 00:14:57,592 We are asking now to go out 399 00:14:57,722 --> 00:14:59,855 and actually do interviews 400 00:14:59,986 --> 00:15:01,639 of every place that sells this 401 00:15:01,770 --> 00:15:03,293 in the tristate area. 402 00:15:03,424 --> 00:15:05,948 All along, we've been balancing our case work 403 00:15:06,079 --> 00:15:08,472 with the risk to the public. 404 00:15:08,603 --> 00:15:11,780 Now we have no choice but to tip our hand. 405 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:13,260 But nothing substantial turns up, 406 00:15:13,390 --> 00:15:15,871 and no one has seen anything suspicious. 407 00:15:16,002 --> 00:15:18,395 - Is it gonna be a suicide mission? 408 00:15:18,526 --> 00:15:20,528 Is it gonna be, you know, a mission 409 00:15:20,658 --> 00:15:21,703 where he's gonna escape 410 00:15:21,833 --> 00:15:23,226 and do multiple missions? 411 00:15:23,357 --> 00:15:24,924 And it's logical. Look, you've got 412 00:15:25,054 --> 00:15:26,534 a guy making TATP. 413 00:15:26,664 --> 00:15:28,753 Okay, I'm--you know, you get a backpack. 414 00:15:28,884 --> 00:15:30,581 You get a backpack. Everybody get on the subway 415 00:15:30,712 --> 00:15:31,539 and blow something up. 416 00:15:31,669 --> 00:15:33,236 We have no idea. 417 00:15:33,367 --> 00:15:36,152 We did know that before he moved to Denver, 418 00:15:36,283 --> 00:15:37,849 Najibullah used to have a coffee cart 419 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:39,503 down by Wall Street. - Yeah. 420 00:15:39,634 --> 00:15:42,115 - So we were thinking, could you put 421 00:15:42,245 --> 00:15:43,812 an explosive device in a coffee cart 422 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:45,553 by Wall Street? 423 00:15:45,683 --> 00:15:47,207 - Why didn't you arrest him? 424 00:15:47,337 --> 00:15:48,425 Why isn't he arrested at this point? 425 00:15:48,556 --> 00:15:51,298 - The best, juiciest stuff is all classified, 426 00:15:51,428 --> 00:15:53,517 and we're still not ready to make all that info public. 427 00:15:53,648 --> 00:15:56,607 ♪ 428 00:15:56,738 --> 00:15:59,393 - We got through September 11 with no smoking craters, 429 00:15:59,523 --> 00:16:00,872 thank goodness, 430 00:16:01,003 --> 00:16:03,701 but it's still not over. 431 00:16:03,832 --> 00:16:05,921 - So we got the car. We've done the search. 432 00:16:06,052 --> 00:16:07,444 The computer's been scanned. 433 00:16:07,575 --> 00:16:11,057 But then we got a little bit of bad luck. 434 00:16:11,187 --> 00:16:14,060 - A law enforcement officer told his source, 435 00:16:14,190 --> 00:16:17,498 "Hey, if you hear anything about, you know, 436 00:16:17,628 --> 00:16:20,370 this guy Najibullah Zazi, we wanna know about it." 437 00:16:20,501 --> 00:16:23,199 - And the source knew Najibullah's family. 438 00:16:23,330 --> 00:16:25,027 - Okay. - And then they wound up 439 00:16:25,158 --> 00:16:26,637 talking to Najibullah himself, 440 00:16:26,768 --> 00:16:29,727 which is, of course, being recorded by the FBI, 441 00:16:29,858 --> 00:16:31,816 and all of a sudden, it's like, 442 00:16:31,947 --> 00:16:34,471 we have just been compromised. 443 00:16:34,602 --> 00:16:36,778 - It was an "oh shit" moment. There's no doubt. 444 00:16:36,908 --> 00:16:39,563 Everyone was like, "Oh, my God. What the hell is going on?" 445 00:16:39,694 --> 00:16:43,219 - And shortly after that, Najibullah--he's on the phone, 446 00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:46,222 making plans to go back to Denver. 447 00:16:46,353 --> 00:16:49,312 - He's spooked that we're on to him. 448 00:16:49,443 --> 00:16:51,706 - We're still tracking him, of course, 449 00:16:51,836 --> 00:16:53,229 and we learned that when he got home-- 450 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,101 - He tried to destroy his computer. 451 00:16:55,231 --> 00:16:56,711 Remember that? - Yeah, mm-hmm. 452 00:16:56,841 --> 00:16:59,148 - So he's thinking, "Ooh, I dodged a bullet. 453 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:01,107 They didn't find my computer." 454 00:17:01,237 --> 00:17:03,065 - We're also hoping he might make a call 455 00:17:03,196 --> 00:17:04,806 to Adis or Zarein 456 00:17:04,935 --> 00:17:06,851 that we would pick up on surveillance, 457 00:17:06,982 --> 00:17:09,115 and that would help bolster our case. 458 00:17:09,244 --> 00:17:10,681 The Denver office brings him in to talk, 459 00:17:10,811 --> 00:17:12,074 they release him, 460 00:17:12,204 --> 00:17:13,944 and then the media picks up on it 461 00:17:14,076 --> 00:17:15,556 that they've got a suspected terrorist. 462 00:17:15,685 --> 00:17:17,601 - A reporter seeks him out, finds him. 463 00:17:17,732 --> 00:17:19,690 - Sir... 464 00:17:19,820 --> 00:17:21,997 - When "9 Wants To Know" found Najibullah Zazi 465 00:17:22,127 --> 00:17:23,303 at his apartment in Aurora, 466 00:17:23,433 --> 00:17:24,694 he and his attorney insisted 467 00:17:24,826 --> 00:17:26,088 he was not a terrorist. 468 00:17:26,219 --> 00:17:27,915 - Of course not. I have nothing to do 469 00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:29,222 with al-Qaeda and--any link 470 00:17:29,352 --> 00:17:31,224 or anything with al-Qaeda. 471 00:17:31,354 --> 00:17:33,791 - Then the Denver office searches Zazi's apartment. 472 00:17:33,922 --> 00:17:36,185 - Today's raid was at an apartment building 473 00:17:36,316 --> 00:17:37,491 in the Denver suburb of Aurora, 474 00:17:37,621 --> 00:17:39,580 home to a man authorities say 475 00:17:39,710 --> 00:17:41,408 is at the center of the alleged al-Qaeda plot. 476 00:17:41,538 --> 00:17:43,453 - And that triggers another interview 477 00:17:43,584 --> 00:17:45,499 where he's dodging questions about bombmaking 478 00:17:45,629 --> 00:17:46,935 on his computer. 479 00:17:56,423 --> 00:17:59,556 - When they confronted him about the computer, 480 00:17:59,687 --> 00:18:02,298 he did not know that we had taken the computer 481 00:18:02,429 --> 00:18:04,344 and got all of his bombmaking notes. 482 00:18:18,314 --> 00:18:20,011 - That was a great interview. - Yeah. 483 00:18:20,142 --> 00:18:21,448 - I mean, he was denying things, 484 00:18:21,578 --> 00:18:24,233 but you can tell, as things go along, 485 00:18:24,364 --> 00:18:25,582 he sees the writing on the wall. 486 00:18:29,934 --> 00:18:32,546 - That's when I think he had his, you know, 487 00:18:32,676 --> 00:18:34,591 "aha" moment, like "They've got me." 488 00:18:34,722 --> 00:18:36,724 - And while he doesn't cooperate at that point, 489 00:18:36,854 --> 00:18:38,291 he's arrested. 490 00:18:41,294 --> 00:18:42,686 - Najibullah Zazi's under arrest, 491 00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:45,341 and then he is brought back to New York... 492 00:18:45,472 --> 00:18:47,213 - Mm-hmm. - And... 493 00:18:47,343 --> 00:18:48,388 - Terror suspect Najibullah Zazi 494 00:18:48,518 --> 00:18:49,911 is in a New York City jail 495 00:18:50,041 --> 00:18:51,260 after pleading not guilty 496 00:18:51,391 --> 00:18:52,827 to charges of planning a bomb attempt. 497 00:18:52,957 --> 00:18:54,176 - But over the next three weeks, 498 00:18:54,307 --> 00:18:56,222 he gives up the entire plot. 499 00:18:56,352 --> 00:18:59,790 Once he got through his mind that he was gonna cooperate, 500 00:18:59,921 --> 00:19:00,835 he cooperated. 501 00:19:00,965 --> 00:19:01,879 - Zazi has admitted 502 00:19:02,010 --> 00:19:03,403 that he brought explosives 503 00:19:03,533 --> 00:19:06,536 to New York City on September 10th, 2009, 504 00:19:06,667 --> 00:19:08,843 and that he and others intended 505 00:19:08,973 --> 00:19:10,453 to detonate them on board 506 00:19:10,584 --> 00:19:13,282 the New York City subway system. 507 00:19:13,413 --> 00:19:15,241 This was one of the most serious 508 00:19:15,371 --> 00:19:16,416 terrorist threats to our nation 509 00:19:16,546 --> 00:19:18,679 since September the 11th, 2001. 510 00:19:18,809 --> 00:19:21,769 - What happens then? - We had Adis and Zarein 511 00:19:21,899 --> 00:19:23,336 under surveillance because they're still dangerous 512 00:19:23,466 --> 00:19:25,033 and unpredictable, 513 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:27,644 and we still have to build a case against them. 514 00:19:27,775 --> 00:19:29,907 - We've gotta dig and dig and dig and figure out, 515 00:19:30,038 --> 00:19:31,300 how are we gonna take 516 00:19:31,431 --> 00:19:32,954 everything that we've learned so far 517 00:19:33,084 --> 00:19:34,216 and put it into a package 518 00:19:34,347 --> 00:19:36,610 that we can prosecute a case with? 519 00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:38,307 - And that takes months. 520 00:19:38,438 --> 00:19:40,179 At one point, we send some agents 521 00:19:40,309 --> 00:19:42,006 over to Adis' house in Queens 522 00:19:42,137 --> 00:19:44,095 with a warrant. 523 00:19:45,662 --> 00:19:47,969 - The FBI returned to his home yesterday 524 00:19:48,099 --> 00:19:50,450 for a second search, looking for his passport. 525 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:52,147 - We wanna get his passport so that we can look 526 00:19:52,278 --> 00:19:53,670 at where he's traveled officially. 527 00:19:53,801 --> 00:19:56,630 While agents are inside, searching the apartment, 528 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,067 Adis waits outside and looks at the warrant, 529 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:02,810 realizes that he's being investigated for terrorism, 530 00:20:02,940 --> 00:20:05,073 and kind of loses his mind. 531 00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:08,294 And he starts running and jumping in the car. 532 00:20:08,424 --> 00:20:10,339 Well, we have surveillance on that car, 533 00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:12,080 and if you know the Whitestone Expressway, 534 00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:14,691 it's not the fastest expressway you've ever dealt with. 535 00:20:14,822 --> 00:20:18,042 And he gets on the phone, and he calls 911. 536 00:20:22,612 --> 00:20:24,048 - And he goes, "My name is Adis. 537 00:20:24,179 --> 00:20:25,311 My name is Adis." 538 00:20:28,096 --> 00:20:30,403 - 911 operator responds. 539 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:36,104 - And, I mean, it's like out of the cartoons. 540 00:20:36,235 --> 00:20:38,149 And he goes, "My name is Adis. 541 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,368 I love death more than you love life." 542 00:20:39,499 --> 00:20:41,152 And then it goes silent. 543 00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:54,209 - We now know what he had wanted to do 544 00:20:54,340 --> 00:20:55,776 was commit an act of jihad. 545 00:20:55,906 --> 00:20:57,517 He wanted to--and you can take my beer for this... 546 00:20:57,647 --> 00:21:00,215 - [laughs] - He wanted to take his car 547 00:21:00,346 --> 00:21:02,565 and make a fiery bomb out of it 548 00:21:02,696 --> 00:21:04,741 by crashing it into another car. 549 00:21:04,872 --> 00:21:07,222 Luckily for us, he doesn't understand physics. 550 00:21:07,353 --> 00:21:09,659 There's a car in front of him driving in the same direction. 551 00:21:09,790 --> 00:21:11,966 And he's going around 55, 60 miles an hour, 552 00:21:12,096 --> 00:21:14,229 this car's going around 45, 50 miles an hour, 553 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:16,927 and instead of a fiery flame, it's a fender bender. 554 00:21:17,058 --> 00:21:19,365 - [laughs] - So now it's a traffic jam. 555 00:21:20,931 --> 00:21:22,237 Adis gets out of the car, 556 00:21:22,368 --> 00:21:23,412 and he starts to run, 557 00:21:23,543 --> 00:21:24,979 and he's gonna jump over the median. 558 00:21:25,109 --> 00:21:28,374 Behind him is an off-duty Suffolk County police officer 559 00:21:28,504 --> 00:21:30,898 who sees this, yells at him, and goes, 560 00:21:31,028 --> 00:21:33,335 "What are you doing? Get back to your car." 561 00:21:33,466 --> 00:21:36,817 Adis, for whatever reason, stops and returns to his car. 562 00:21:36,947 --> 00:21:38,384 The cop goes, "Why are you running away? 563 00:21:38,514 --> 00:21:40,168 It's a fender bender." 564 00:21:40,299 --> 00:21:42,388 Adis basically answers, 565 00:21:42,518 --> 00:21:43,867 "The FBI wants me for terrorism," 566 00:21:43,998 --> 00:21:46,522 and he turns and he points, and running down the road 567 00:21:46,653 --> 00:21:47,958 are the surveillance guys. 568 00:21:48,089 --> 00:21:49,264 'Cause of all the traffic that got stuck, 569 00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:50,309 they can't drive. 570 00:21:50,439 --> 00:21:53,181 And when the cop sees this, 571 00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:54,791 he pulls his gun 572 00:21:54,922 --> 00:21:58,491 and puts Adis on the ground and prones him out. 573 00:21:58,621 --> 00:22:01,929 And Adis is now under arrest... 574 00:22:02,059 --> 00:22:04,279 but what for? 575 00:22:04,410 --> 00:22:05,976 Leaving the scene of a vehicular incident. 576 00:22:06,107 --> 00:22:07,804 - That's awesome. 577 00:22:07,935 --> 00:22:10,807 - About an hour after Medunjanin's apartment 578 00:22:10,938 --> 00:22:13,201 was searched, the 24-year-old Flushing man, 579 00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:16,509 who reportedly has been under surveillance by the FBI, 580 00:22:16,639 --> 00:22:18,293 was involved in a traffic accident 581 00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:19,729 near the Whitestone Bridge. 582 00:22:19,860 --> 00:22:22,471 One law enforcement official says Medunjanin 583 00:22:22,602 --> 00:22:23,994 may have been either flustered by 584 00:22:24,125 --> 00:22:26,432 or trying to avoid police surveillance. 585 00:22:26,562 --> 00:22:28,042 He was treated for minor injuries 586 00:22:28,172 --> 00:22:29,435 and then taken into custody 587 00:22:29,565 --> 00:22:31,350 by the Joint Terrorism Task Force. 588 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,353 - They bring Adis back to our location. 589 00:22:34,483 --> 00:22:36,442 He waives everything. He waives the right to counsel. 590 00:22:36,572 --> 00:22:37,921 He waives the right to be presented. 591 00:22:38,052 --> 00:22:39,314 He waives everything. 592 00:22:39,445 --> 00:22:41,621 And during that time, he gives up the entire case. 593 00:22:41,751 --> 00:22:44,014 He says who they met with over in Pakistan. 594 00:22:44,145 --> 00:22:45,015 - Oh. - And he said 595 00:22:45,146 --> 00:22:46,016 when they came back, 596 00:22:46,147 --> 00:22:47,017 the goal was to blow up 597 00:22:47,148 --> 00:22:48,192 a New York City subway 598 00:22:48,323 --> 00:22:49,977 and that they wanted to live 599 00:22:50,107 --> 00:22:51,370 and do another one. 600 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:53,372 But at the same time, we realize 601 00:22:53,502 --> 00:22:54,851 that we still have Zarein out on the road, 602 00:22:54,982 --> 00:22:57,288 who's the taxicab driver. - Yep. 603 00:22:57,419 --> 00:22:59,682 - Surveillance has him driving around Times Square. 604 00:22:59,813 --> 00:23:01,684 And we just had a guy try to kill people 605 00:23:01,815 --> 00:23:03,338 on a highway. 606 00:23:03,469 --> 00:23:05,122 If Zarein hears about this, 607 00:23:05,253 --> 00:23:06,950 what's he gonna do? 608 00:23:07,081 --> 00:23:09,692 So we immediately have a felony car stop done of him 609 00:23:09,823 --> 00:23:11,738 by our surveillance teams. They arrest him. 610 00:23:15,263 --> 00:23:17,526 Najibullah--he cooperated. 611 00:23:17,657 --> 00:23:20,486 And later on, Zarein basically gives up 612 00:23:20,616 --> 00:23:21,922 the entire case too. 613 00:23:22,052 --> 00:23:24,098 So it looks like the case is all sewn up, 614 00:23:24,228 --> 00:23:25,882 but then Adis recants 615 00:23:26,013 --> 00:23:28,189 and decides that he's gonna remain loyal 616 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:29,495 to al-Qaeda. 617 00:23:34,717 --> 00:23:36,371 His own testimony used against him, 618 00:23:36,502 --> 00:23:38,155 because he was given his rights. 619 00:23:38,286 --> 00:23:39,722 Zarein testified against him, 620 00:23:39,853 --> 00:23:40,984 and Najibullah has testified against him. 621 00:23:41,115 --> 00:23:42,246 - Bad breakup. 622 00:24:11,580 --> 00:24:13,364 - A lot of what we do is reactive. 623 00:24:13,495 --> 00:24:16,367 When you can be proactive on a person 624 00:24:16,498 --> 00:24:18,108 that you believe to be a true terrorist 625 00:24:18,239 --> 00:24:19,719 that wants to kill 626 00:24:19,849 --> 00:24:22,417 your friends and neighbors in New York, 627 00:24:22,548 --> 00:24:23,723 it's real. - Absolutely. 628 00:24:23,853 --> 00:24:25,638 - It doesn't get more real than that. 629 00:24:25,768 --> 00:24:26,552 - Thank goodness you don't have to make 630 00:24:26,682 --> 00:24:28,249 those decisions every day, 631 00:24:28,379 --> 00:24:32,379 but when they come around, you just wanna answer the bell.