1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:01:03,304 --> 00:01:05,548 Varginha is a Brazilian city 4 00:01:05,582 --> 00:01:10,932 located in the southern region of the state of Minas Gerais. 5 00:01:10,967 --> 00:01:15,592 Varginha is considered the seventh best city in Brazil to live and invest 6 00:01:15,627 --> 00:01:18,906 and became known internationally in 1996 7 00:01:18,940 --> 00:01:22,944 for the alleged appearance of alien creatures, 8 00:01:22,979 --> 00:01:27,535 the episode that became known as the "Varginha Incident". 9 00:01:27,570 --> 00:01:32,092 This following story is based on truth and lies. 10 00:02:19,622 --> 00:02:24,005 If true, call it another Roswell, if you will. 11 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:29,218 That is, a crashed vehicle that had beings on board, apparently. 12 00:02:29,252 --> 00:02:33,774 Can she say what feelings she got from the creature? 13 00:02:43,715 --> 00:02:45,751 The Varginha case is considered 14 00:02:46,511 --> 00:02:47,650 the most 15 00:02:49,065 --> 00:02:50,825 well-kept secret 16 00:02:52,448 --> 00:02:54,070 in the military circle of Brazil. 17 00:03:09,465 --> 00:03:12,606 We're in Sao Paulo, Brazil, 18 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:14,918 about to go and investigate 19 00:03:14,953 --> 00:03:18,232 the infamous 1996 Varginha UFO incident. 20 00:03:18,267 --> 00:03:21,477 An alleged crash and reported bodies. 21 00:03:21,511 --> 00:03:23,375 So we're gonna go see... 22 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:25,826 Oh, okay. No problem. 23 00:03:46,950 --> 00:03:50,368 I'm basically trying to figure out what took place 24 00:03:50,402 --> 00:03:54,303 in Varginha, Brazil, January 1996. 25 00:03:54,337 --> 00:03:57,133 Many people say there was a UFO crash, 26 00:03:57,167 --> 00:03:59,169 debris and bodies recovered. 27 00:03:59,204 --> 00:04:01,413 My objective here in Brazil is to find out, 28 00:04:01,448 --> 00:04:03,484 put some clarity on, what happened 29 00:04:03,519 --> 00:04:07,108 and where this debris ultimately ended up. 30 00:04:39,348 --> 00:04:41,246 I wanna hear from her. 31 00:04:41,281 --> 00:04:45,871 James Fox teams up with Brazilian researcher Marco Leal, 32 00:04:45,906 --> 00:04:50,911 who has been investigating the Varginha case since 2006. 33 00:04:50,945 --> 00:04:55,260 Together they meet Cynthia Covo in Sao Paulo, to go over the case. 34 00:04:55,295 --> 00:04:56,468 - So... - Yeah. 35 00:04:56,503 --> 00:04:58,781 This is the daughter of one of the most famous 36 00:04:58,815 --> 00:05:01,508 - UFO researchers in all of Brazil. - Yeah. 37 00:05:01,542 --> 00:05:03,648 - And he is no longer with us. - Yes. 38 00:05:03,682 --> 00:05:06,823 So she has brought some of his research, 39 00:05:06,858 --> 00:05:09,274 illustrations, documentation 40 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:13,278 from the 1996 Varginha UFO incident. 41 00:05:13,313 --> 00:05:17,765 An unidentified flying object reportedly crashes, 42 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,112 and then you have beings 43 00:05:20,147 --> 00:05:23,530 associated with the craft, alive and walking through the town. 44 00:05:23,564 --> 00:05:25,670 It sounds so spectacular, 45 00:05:25,704 --> 00:05:28,328 it sounds so unbelievable, 46 00:05:28,362 --> 00:05:29,984 it's hard to wrap your mind around it. 47 00:05:30,019 --> 00:05:32,332 And I didn't believe it when I first heard about it. 48 00:05:32,366 --> 00:05:33,471 This is the design. 49 00:05:33,505 --> 00:05:35,265 The girls drew this for her father. 50 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:36,853 - That's her father. - Yeah. 51 00:05:36,888 --> 00:05:39,200 They were in the fire... fireman station. 52 00:05:39,235 --> 00:05:40,616 So this is the fireman that... 53 00:05:40,650 --> 00:05:43,135 They believe this fireman was involved in the capture? 54 00:05:46,069 --> 00:05:48,313 Oralina, Eurico. 55 00:05:48,348 --> 00:05:51,696 And they saw a UFO that looked like it was definitely gonna crash? 56 00:05:51,730 --> 00:05:54,043 Liliane and Valquiria. 57 00:05:54,077 --> 00:05:56,666 - Right after they saw the creature? - Yes. 58 00:05:56,701 --> 00:05:58,496 - Marco Cherese? - Yeah. 59 00:05:58,530 --> 00:06:02,223 - Who captured the creature with his bare hands. - Yes. 60 00:06:02,258 --> 00:06:03,570 And later died. 61 00:06:06,676 --> 00:06:11,371 This is an original artist's rendition of what the girls saw. 62 00:06:13,096 --> 00:06:14,132 Wow! 63 00:06:15,064 --> 00:06:17,653 Wow, look at that. 64 00:06:17,687 --> 00:06:21,484 Brazil is one of the most amazing locations on Earth. 65 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:23,831 - I mean, you've got Ubatuba in the '50s. - Yeah. 66 00:06:23,866 --> 00:06:26,869 You've got Colares, Operacao Prato. 67 00:06:26,903 --> 00:06:32,253 You've got 1986, UFOs over Brazil with Sao Paulo. 68 00:06:32,288 --> 00:06:34,842 It was amazing. I met with a radar operator. 69 00:06:34,877 --> 00:06:38,605 And then you have this crash in 1996 in Varginha. 70 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:40,400 These are some of the best cases in the world. 71 00:06:51,549 --> 00:06:53,309 1957. 72 00:06:53,343 --> 00:06:57,520 Witnesses observe an object descending at extreme speed 73 00:06:57,555 --> 00:07:00,627 from the skies towards Toninhas Beach. 74 00:07:00,661 --> 00:07:03,699 Before hitting the water, it explodes. 75 00:07:03,733 --> 00:07:08,255 Fragments collected on the beach are sent to a lab to be analyzed. 76 00:07:08,289 --> 00:07:09,912 This headline reads, 77 00:07:09,946 --> 00:07:15,124 Scientific analysis confirms extraterrestrial magnesium 78 00:07:15,158 --> 00:07:17,920 from the alleged Ubatuba flying saucer. 79 00:07:22,476 --> 00:07:25,099 - Photographer Almiro Barauna 80 00:07:25,134 --> 00:07:27,792 and the crew aboard a Brazilian navy vessel 81 00:07:27,826 --> 00:07:30,104 - witness a disc-shaped object 82 00:07:30,139 --> 00:07:31,623 maneuvering over the ocean. 83 00:07:33,867 --> 00:07:37,905 - He grabs his camera and takes these shots. 84 00:08:38,207 --> 00:08:41,486 Previously classified Brazilian Air Force documents 85 00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:44,178 contain accounts of several UFOs 86 00:08:44,213 --> 00:08:47,837 witnessed by both civilians and military personnel. 87 00:09:03,577 --> 00:09:06,373 Shown here are several unknown craft 88 00:09:06,407 --> 00:09:10,550 captured on camera by the Brazilian Air Force. 89 00:09:10,584 --> 00:09:14,036 Some officers even claimed to see occupants. 90 00:09:23,424 --> 00:09:25,219 1986. 91 00:09:25,254 --> 00:09:28,326 - Over Sao Paulo, six Brazilian fighter jets 92 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,398 chase more than a dozen UFOs. 93 00:09:47,276 --> 00:09:50,797 The Ministry of the Air Force confirms this encounter 94 00:09:50,831 --> 00:09:52,108 in a press conference. 95 00:11:25,754 --> 00:11:28,757 - She got to meet Carlos de Sousa? - Yes. 96 00:11:28,791 --> 00:11:30,759 - In 1996? - Yeah. 97 00:11:30,793 --> 00:11:34,866 - And he was the man who saw the UFO crash. - Yes. 98 00:12:21,810 --> 00:12:24,088 Going back to 1996 and seeing the witnesses 99 00:12:24,122 --> 00:12:26,055 and seeing the location of the creatures, 100 00:12:26,090 --> 00:12:28,989 seeing the original illustration... 101 00:12:29,024 --> 00:12:30,542 You know, the rendition of what the creature 102 00:12:30,577 --> 00:12:32,993 looked like from 1996 and holding it in my hands, 103 00:12:33,028 --> 00:12:34,892 it was fascinating! 104 00:12:34,926 --> 00:12:37,998 And the photograph of the military man, Marco Cherese, 105 00:12:38,033 --> 00:12:39,620 who apparently handled one of the creatures. 106 00:12:39,655 --> 00:12:42,762 I mean, it just takes you back in time to 1996. 107 00:12:42,796 --> 00:12:47,870 And it was just a really, really fortunate opportunity for us. 108 00:12:47,905 --> 00:12:50,908 I'm thrilled, and I can't wait to get to Varginha, to be honest with you. 109 00:12:54,118 --> 00:12:57,949 You could just say hypothetically, for a moment, if it did happen, 110 00:12:57,984 --> 00:13:00,469 how significant of an event would it be? 111 00:13:00,503 --> 00:13:02,609 I bet you that everyone would say, 112 00:13:02,643 --> 00:13:04,818 there's nothing more significant than this story. 113 00:13:04,853 --> 00:13:06,095 If it were true. 114 00:13:06,130 --> 00:13:09,685 I just ask people to suspend judgement, 115 00:13:09,719 --> 00:13:13,620 listen to the testimony, and then draw your own conclusions. 116 00:13:18,832 --> 00:13:22,663 Hey, we're just gonna drop me off or something. 117 00:13:22,698 --> 00:13:25,356 Get some drinks while they go around the block, or wait. 118 00:13:26,529 --> 00:13:28,497 Upon arrival in Varginha, 119 00:13:28,531 --> 00:13:30,948 the filmmakers want to hear from locals 120 00:13:30,982 --> 00:13:35,159 regarding the alleged 1996 UFO crash. 121 00:13:37,644 --> 00:13:40,750 A large monument in the shape of a flying saucer 122 00:13:40,785 --> 00:13:45,238 is a clear indication that the town embraces the story. 123 00:13:45,272 --> 00:13:47,930 Armed with handmade signs that read, 124 00:13:47,965 --> 00:13:52,521 "If anyone knows what happened in 1996, please talk to us." 125 00:13:52,555 --> 00:13:55,282 The team takes to the streets. 126 00:13:55,317 --> 00:13:57,043 What does he think about the case? 127 00:13:57,077 --> 00:13:59,079 - Does he think it happened or it didn't happen? 128 00:13:59,114 --> 00:14:01,150 What are your feelings on Varginha? 129 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,509 The 1996 Varginha UFO incident, what do you think? 130 00:14:30,007 --> 00:14:31,767 Things are heating up right now, guys. 131 00:14:31,801 --> 00:14:33,873 Like, we're finding some witnesses. 132 00:14:33,907 --> 00:14:36,910 - These guys is really important here. - Okay, let's bring it. 133 00:14:57,966 --> 00:15:00,934 They see a UFO. The UFO gets closer to them, 134 00:15:00,969 --> 00:15:04,420 to the point where it's at the height of that street light. 135 00:15:04,455 --> 00:15:05,732 Okay, so then what happens? 136 00:15:37,557 --> 00:15:41,388 So a lot of people in this town have a little piece of the puzzle. 137 00:15:41,423 --> 00:15:43,114 We were only here for an hour-and-a-half, 138 00:15:43,149 --> 00:15:45,461 and I can't believe how many people we got to come forward. 139 00:15:45,496 --> 00:15:48,499 What I love about this case is it's recent enough 140 00:15:48,533 --> 00:15:52,123 where people either heard accounts or experienced things themselves. 141 00:15:55,506 --> 00:15:59,061 So, right now, we are going to meet with 142 00:15:59,096 --> 00:16:02,754 the mayor of Varginha. 143 00:16:02,789 --> 00:16:07,483 So I'm very curious if an elected official will talk about 144 00:16:07,518 --> 00:16:11,522 the details of the case and whether he believes it really happened. 145 00:16:12,350 --> 00:16:14,180 These sorts of things. 146 00:16:33,061 --> 00:16:35,442 - Look at this. - Oh, that's nice. 147 00:16:35,477 --> 00:16:37,065 - That's great. - Yeah. 148 00:16:47,592 --> 00:16:50,492 I'm extremely curious, 149 00:16:50,526 --> 00:16:54,496 as an elected official, the mayor of Varginha, 150 00:16:54,530 --> 00:16:57,982 does he believe that this case happened 151 00:16:58,017 --> 00:17:01,054 as the witnesses are reporting it to have happened? 152 00:17:42,371 --> 00:17:45,823 The witnesses in Varginha, for me, are some of the most 153 00:17:45,857 --> 00:17:48,377 compelling testimony I've ever heard. 154 00:17:58,939 --> 00:18:01,942 - So I didn't believe that 155 00:18:01,977 --> 00:18:06,188 a UFO crashed in Varginha, Brazil, when I first came here. 156 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:09,088 But after 10 years... 157 00:18:09,122 --> 00:18:12,953 I wouldn't have imagined getting an interview with... 158 00:18:12,988 --> 00:18:15,439 an elected official like the mayor of Varginha. 159 00:18:15,473 --> 00:18:18,097 If you would have told me I'd be doing that ten years ago, I wouldn't have believed it. 160 00:18:18,131 --> 00:18:23,447 Not only that, but he was, basically, 161 00:18:23,481 --> 00:18:27,382 saying that he felt that the Varginha case was true, that it really happened. 162 00:18:27,416 --> 00:18:30,661 I think we have to remind ourselves how far we've come in the last decade. 163 00:18:49,887 --> 00:18:54,581 Put me on that farm in January of 1996. 164 00:18:54,616 --> 00:18:55,513 What happened? 165 00:20:03,892 --> 00:20:05,342 1996. 166 00:20:05,376 --> 00:20:07,723 Crash witness Carlos de Sousa 167 00:20:07,758 --> 00:20:11,658 describes a similar object in this exclusive interview. 168 00:20:49,731 --> 00:20:52,734 January 13th, 1996. 169 00:20:52,768 --> 00:20:55,840 Carlos de Sousa is traveling from Sao Paulo 170 00:20:55,875 --> 00:20:58,567 to Minas Gerais early in the morning, 171 00:20:58,602 --> 00:21:00,431 planning to meet with friends 172 00:21:00,466 --> 00:21:02,433 to fly ultra-light planes. 173 00:22:23,687 --> 00:22:25,585 Now, 26 years later, 174 00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:29,900 the team travels with Carlos de Sousa to find the crash site. 175 00:22:43,016 --> 00:22:45,398 Turn around. Right. 176 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:48,539 Careful of the dust. He's trying to remember. 177 00:22:57,479 --> 00:22:58,377 So where the trees were? 178 00:23:07,972 --> 00:23:12,632 He doesn't... remember. 179 00:23:12,667 --> 00:23:15,739 But he thinks it's this way. Because it's been 26 years... 180 00:23:15,773 --> 00:23:19,328 Is this looking familiar? There's a house up there. 181 00:23:19,363 --> 00:23:22,401 But if it's close to a house, then it's gotta be further down this way. 182 00:23:24,886 --> 00:23:26,957 Unless the house is gone. 183 00:23:26,991 --> 00:23:28,683 - I think the house is gone. - You do? 184 00:23:50,808 --> 00:23:53,224 - He's asking you to stop. - Stop? 185 00:23:54,812 --> 00:23:56,124 Right. Let's go. 186 00:24:23,496 --> 00:24:26,016 - What does that mean? - Yeah, like big grass. 187 00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:27,327 It was around here. 188 00:24:27,811 --> 00:24:28,743 Okay. 189 00:24:33,851 --> 00:24:35,577 - He wants to go there. - Okay. 190 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,844 - So it was a white house, and it was a small house. - Yeah, it was a small house. 191 00:25:00,878 --> 00:25:04,054 - So... - The grass was burned. 192 00:25:04,088 --> 00:25:06,297 The grass was burned. Why was the grass burned? 193 00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:23,729 - So, is the house gone? - It was around here. 194 00:25:23,763 --> 00:25:24,971 The house is gone? 195 00:25:31,426 --> 00:25:34,705 He doesn't know. Everything's different. 196 00:25:39,227 --> 00:25:41,056 I mean, it could be here, or it could be there. 197 00:25:45,302 --> 00:25:48,685 We walk over to there and look. 198 00:25:48,719 --> 00:25:51,653 If it's close to the road, it only can be in a couple of places. 199 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,277 Does he wanna walk up closer to it. 200 00:25:56,693 --> 00:25:59,558 He said the house was close to where the crash was. 201 00:25:59,592 --> 00:26:01,042 - Yeah. - 200 meters. 202 00:26:01,076 --> 00:26:02,664 - Yeah, it's like... - 600 feet. 203 00:26:02,699 --> 00:26:05,425 It's my only... My only house. 204 00:26:06,288 --> 00:26:08,428 Family. My only family. 205 00:26:08,463 --> 00:26:11,708 Well, I say we... I say we take a closer look. 206 00:26:11,742 --> 00:26:13,088 - I mean... - Yeah. 207 00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:14,745 You know? 208 00:26:16,298 --> 00:26:18,680 Yeah, we gotta do it, man. We got to find this spot! 209 00:26:21,718 --> 00:26:22,857 There's a lot of trees. 210 00:26:22,891 --> 00:26:24,686 Is there a house down there? 211 00:26:24,721 --> 00:26:28,656 Yeah, there's a house right down to these trees. Yeah. 212 00:26:28,690 --> 00:26:30,589 Well, let's get closer to there then. 213 00:26:32,176 --> 00:26:33,522 Let's drive down the road. 214 00:26:33,557 --> 00:26:34,869 Let's drive down to get closer. 215 00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:36,836 There's a house. 216 00:26:36,871 --> 00:26:37,872 This isn't a field. 217 00:26:38,286 --> 00:26:39,287 Yes, yes! 218 00:26:47,916 --> 00:26:50,091 Here. Here! 219 00:27:02,137 --> 00:27:03,035 Wow! 220 00:27:15,495 --> 00:27:16,427 Wow! 221 00:28:42,997 --> 00:28:43,894 This is the spot. 222 00:29:08,954 --> 00:29:11,853 Was this object big enough 223 00:29:11,888 --> 00:29:14,614 to have, potentially, beings inside? 224 00:29:34,807 --> 00:29:36,775 According to Mr. Sousa, 225 00:29:36,809 --> 00:29:41,158 this area was covered with debris from the UFO crash. 226 00:30:08,323 --> 00:30:12,949 This is his first time at the crash site since 1996. 227 00:31:13,457 --> 00:31:14,873 So he gets out of the car. 228 00:31:14,907 --> 00:31:16,598 He sees the piece, right? 229 00:31:16,633 --> 00:31:18,359 He picks the piece up. 230 00:31:18,393 --> 00:31:20,154 He folds it. He said it was really light, 231 00:31:20,188 --> 00:31:21,845 and it was shaped kind of like this. 232 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,192 - Yeah. - And then he picked it up and he folded it 233 00:31:24,227 --> 00:31:25,849 and then it opens itself up. 234 00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:27,161 And it was really light. 235 00:31:27,195 --> 00:31:28,783 - Yes. - Like aluminum. 236 00:31:28,817 --> 00:31:32,683 At what point did the military come to him? 237 00:31:32,718 --> 00:31:34,513 - Right after that happened? - Yes. 238 00:31:34,547 --> 00:31:36,515 The military came from this way and arrived? 239 00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:38,241 Yeah. 240 00:31:38,275 --> 00:31:41,416 Carlos Sousa came from here and the trucks came from that side. 241 00:31:41,451 --> 00:31:43,625 Okay. 242 00:31:43,660 --> 00:31:48,803 Within minutes, trucks from the military base, ESA, arrive on the scene. 243 00:31:48,837 --> 00:31:50,701 - Wah, wah? Go away? - Yeah. 244 00:31:53,325 --> 00:31:54,222 I think some guy... 245 00:32:07,097 --> 00:32:08,409 What does "borra" mean? 246 00:32:08,443 --> 00:32:10,238 - Go away! Go away! Go away! - Go away? 247 00:32:10,273 --> 00:32:12,965 Go away! Go away! And I'm ordering. 248 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,416 I'm ordering you? I'm ordering you to go away? 249 00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:17,211 - Yeah. - So then he pulled his gun out? 250 00:32:17,245 --> 00:32:19,316 - Yes. - And he said I'm ordering you to go away. 251 00:32:24,425 --> 00:32:25,460 Wow! 252 00:32:29,775 --> 00:32:32,847 After giving this interview shortly after the incident, 253 00:32:34,642 --> 00:32:38,508 Carlos de Sousa vanishes for 26 years. 254 00:32:54,489 --> 00:32:55,525 - Mark it. 255 00:32:57,561 --> 00:33:00,771 Can we just walk to where exactly this took place? 256 00:33:00,806 --> 00:33:03,912 Seven days after Sousa witnessed the crash, 257 00:33:03,947 --> 00:33:06,743 Hubert Ladera leaves this gym 258 00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:10,989 when he and several friends see two military trucks driving into town. 259 00:33:14,337 --> 00:33:16,615 They follow them through the neighborhood 260 00:33:16,649 --> 00:33:20,032 and come upon a military blockade. 261 00:33:35,703 --> 00:33:37,429 One of the people in his group said, 262 00:33:37,463 --> 00:33:39,879 this is a free country, and I'm going through. 263 00:33:39,914 --> 00:33:40,984 It was him. 264 00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:42,158 - Oh, it was him? - Yeah. 265 00:33:46,679 --> 00:33:48,681 So he said, hey, this is a free country. 266 00:33:48,716 --> 00:33:49,648 I'll do what I want. 267 00:33:49,682 --> 00:33:50,511 And then what happens? 268 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,923 This is the local TV news station that covered the case back in 1996. 269 00:34:57,957 --> 00:34:59,131 He was deeply involved. 270 00:34:59,166 --> 00:35:01,133 He was also good friends with Marco Cherese, 271 00:35:01,168 --> 00:35:03,308 who's the military police officer who, allegedly, 272 00:35:03,342 --> 00:35:05,068 handled the creature and then died. 273 00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:06,932 - Thank you. - Yes, of course. 274 00:35:06,966 --> 00:35:08,899 - Absolutely. 275 00:35:10,038 --> 00:35:12,455 Describe what happened back in 1996. 276 00:35:12,489 --> 00:35:14,422 What you witnessed, what you saw. 277 00:36:49,276 --> 00:36:51,726 So is he saying that the military shut down the press? 278 00:36:51,761 --> 00:36:52,900 - Yes. - Successfully. 279 00:36:52,934 --> 00:36:54,177 - Yes. - They don't have a free press. 280 00:36:54,212 --> 00:36:56,041 - And they say... - They don't have a free press. 281 00:36:56,075 --> 00:37:01,288 No. If they If they say, if they would have go, like, investigate further, 282 00:37:01,322 --> 00:37:03,773 they probably would have put them in jail. 283 00:37:25,070 --> 00:37:27,969 Okay, I'll quickly mention. 284 00:37:28,004 --> 00:37:31,939 So we have, uh, we have special authorization 285 00:37:31,973 --> 00:37:34,182 from the city of Varginha, 286 00:37:34,217 --> 00:37:37,047 and we have a universal key 287 00:37:37,082 --> 00:37:42,605 which is provided to us by, I think, Katia's husband. 288 00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,539 And so we're going to film the use of the special key 289 00:37:45,573 --> 00:37:49,715 to gain access to the exact location where the encounter occurred 290 00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:52,097 back in January of 1996. 291 00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:53,409 Action. 292 00:38:05,110 --> 00:38:06,732 There we go. 293 00:38:06,767 --> 00:38:09,666 - Did you see how easy that was? 294 00:38:16,742 --> 00:38:17,985 I wanted to film here 295 00:38:18,019 --> 00:38:22,196 because this is obviously going to invoke memories 296 00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:25,475 of the encounter, and I think that we're going to get a more dramatic, 297 00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:28,961 more real, um, on camera testimony from the girls, 298 00:38:28,996 --> 00:38:31,723 doing it here as opposed to somewhere else. 299 00:38:59,578 --> 00:39:02,305 Media across Brazil and the world 300 00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:03,824 cover the story. 301 00:39:39,515 --> 00:39:41,344 Tell us, walk us through what happened. 302 00:39:42,656 --> 00:39:43,691 What did you see? 303 00:39:43,726 --> 00:39:44,589 Where did you see it? 304 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,555 1996, 305 00:40:54,590 --> 00:40:56,695 based on the girl's testimony, 306 00:40:56,730 --> 00:40:59,077 artist Betty Rodriguez, 307 00:40:59,111 --> 00:41:00,596 creates this drawing. 308 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,915 What I find makes their stories so credible 309 00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:11,779 is that there were three of them. 310 00:41:11,814 --> 00:41:15,334 I want to hear from Valquiria because she was the youngest. 311 00:41:15,369 --> 00:41:16,957 What were her thoughts at the time? 312 00:41:16,991 --> 00:41:19,097 Was she scared? Did you run? 313 00:41:19,131 --> 00:41:20,478 Like, put me there. 314 00:41:46,642 --> 00:41:49,610 These eyes compared to my eyes, 315 00:41:49,645 --> 00:41:51,094 how much bigger? 316 00:41:53,683 --> 00:41:55,858 - Three times bigger. - Three times bigger. 317 00:42:01,139 --> 00:42:02,899 I want to walk over by the wall, 318 00:42:02,934 --> 00:42:06,662 and I want you to tell me where exactly the creature was. 319 00:42:08,387 --> 00:42:10,528 - Wow! 320 00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:12,564 Really close. 321 00:42:17,362 --> 00:42:20,710 I didn't realize it's closer than I expected, 322 00:42:20,745 --> 00:42:23,333 I mean, it's like eight-feet away. 323 00:42:23,368 --> 00:42:25,508 They were eight-feet away from this creature. Broad daylight. 324 00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:27,475 It was 3:30 in the afternoon. 325 00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:29,719 This is the exact location. 326 00:42:29,754 --> 00:42:32,653 When she made eye contact with this creature, 327 00:42:32,688 --> 00:42:35,518 was there a moment of any kind of communication? 328 00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:37,416 Did she feel anything at all? 329 00:43:05,686 --> 00:43:08,068 Okay, so this is, uh, Valquiria. 330 00:43:08,724 --> 00:43:09,794 This is Katia. 331 00:43:09,828 --> 00:43:11,140 - Sim. - And this is Liliane. 332 00:43:12,244 --> 00:43:14,005 You see the, the eyes. 333 00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:16,007 They didn't draw a nose, they didn't draw a mouth. 334 00:43:16,041 --> 00:43:17,629 It was all about the eyes. 335 00:43:28,606 --> 00:43:30,124 I want to understand, 336 00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:33,403 uh, first of all, the moment of contact with the eye, 337 00:43:33,438 --> 00:43:35,198 with the eyes, meeting the eyes. 338 00:43:35,233 --> 00:43:37,649 I really want to be there. I want to feel it. 339 00:43:37,684 --> 00:43:41,619 When they locked eyes with this being, what were they thinking? 340 00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:08,266 They all ran out of here quickly, 341 00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:09,508 so they were scared. 342 00:44:09,543 --> 00:44:11,441 Were they scared because they felt threatened, 343 00:44:11,476 --> 00:44:13,685 or were they scared because they just simply didn't know 344 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:14,652 what they were looking at? 345 00:45:05,564 --> 00:45:09,016 So the three girls run to her house, 346 00:45:09,051 --> 00:45:11,536 and they say, "We saw this creature 347 00:45:11,570 --> 00:45:14,297 that might have been the devil or whatever it was." 348 00:45:14,332 --> 00:45:17,853 And they, do they, do they get in the car and drive here? 349 00:45:17,887 --> 00:45:19,233 Do they walk here? 350 00:45:19,268 --> 00:45:21,235 How did they get here? And what do they see when they got here? 351 00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:51,438 Can she draw the footprint? 352 00:45:51,472 --> 00:45:52,715 The shape of the footprint? 353 00:46:00,827 --> 00:46:02,760 - Yes. Sim, sim. 354 00:47:08,204 --> 00:47:11,000 That's the exact location where the girls saw the creature 355 00:47:11,035 --> 00:47:14,003 right through that wall where we filmed already with the girls. 356 00:47:14,038 --> 00:47:16,695 I didn't realize that Marco Chereze, the military officer, 357 00:47:16,730 --> 00:47:18,801 who allegedly captured the creature, 358 00:47:18,836 --> 00:47:21,493 with his bare hands, did it right over here. 359 00:47:24,289 --> 00:47:26,291 Roughly three hours after the girls witnessed 360 00:47:26,326 --> 00:47:28,328 the strange creature, 361 00:47:28,362 --> 00:47:31,434 Military police officers Eddie Lopes 362 00:47:31,469 --> 00:47:34,506 and Marco Chereze drive down this road 363 00:47:34,541 --> 00:47:36,750 on the lookout for something unusual. 364 00:47:38,752 --> 00:47:41,859 When suddenly, it runs right across their path. 365 00:47:56,252 --> 00:47:59,428 It was captured by Marco Chereze 366 00:47:59,462 --> 00:48:01,948 with his bare hands easily 367 00:48:01,982 --> 00:48:03,259 and taken to the hospital. 368 00:48:05,434 --> 00:48:07,643 After he captured the creature, 369 00:48:07,677 --> 00:48:13,235 he was smelling the creature in his body and his clothes. 370 00:48:13,269 --> 00:48:18,240 Because he had this strange feeling of something greasy, sticky, 371 00:48:18,274 --> 00:48:20,898 over his body that came from the creature. 372 00:48:23,797 --> 00:48:25,626 He developed this, this infection 373 00:48:26,904 --> 00:48:28,181 that wouldn't go away. 374 00:48:29,423 --> 00:48:31,909 And for two or three weeks 375 00:48:31,943 --> 00:48:36,430 it was getting worse and worse and worse. 376 00:48:36,465 --> 00:48:41,159 And it looks like that his immunity system was shut down. 377 00:48:41,194 --> 00:48:46,164 This were the words used by one of the doctors who treated him, 378 00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:51,825 who said that he never saw in his whole medical career 379 00:48:51,859 --> 00:48:53,275 anything like that. 380 00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,247 And that infection killed him. 381 00:50:01,067 --> 00:50:02,827 All the witnesses 382 00:50:02,861 --> 00:50:07,521 that claim that Marco Chereze handled a creature, 383 00:50:07,556 --> 00:50:10,490 a strange creature, doesn't have to be from another world, 384 00:50:10,524 --> 00:50:12,078 it was a strange creature, 385 00:50:12,112 --> 00:50:14,114 he gets some unknown infection. 386 00:50:14,149 --> 00:50:16,116 You did everything you could to save him, 387 00:50:16,151 --> 00:50:17,773 and he died. 388 00:50:17,807 --> 00:50:20,741 Do you believe that there's some credibility to that story? 389 00:51:17,177 --> 00:51:19,421 When her brother falls ill, 390 00:51:19,455 --> 00:51:22,596 she asks about his involvement with the case. 391 00:51:34,884 --> 00:51:36,438 On February 10th, 392 00:51:36,472 --> 00:51:39,924 Marco Chereze is admitted to regional hospital. 393 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,677 Roger, what's the main purpose that you could to Varginha for a new ecological research? 394 00:52:43,712 --> 00:52:45,817 The main purpose for being here, 395 00:52:45,852 --> 00:52:51,409 uh, is to look at the physical evidence aspect of this case, 396 00:52:51,444 --> 00:52:53,377 uh, which is what I specialize in. 397 00:52:54,205 --> 00:52:58,692 It is June, the 7th 2002, 398 00:52:58,727 --> 00:53:02,869 and I am here in Varginha, Brazil, 399 00:53:02,903 --> 00:53:08,046 with the chief investigator on the Varginha episode, 400 00:53:08,081 --> 00:53:09,841 Ubirajara Rodrigues. 401 00:53:25,547 --> 00:53:30,690 2002, renowned UFO researcher, Dr. Roger Leir, 402 00:53:30,724 --> 00:53:34,866 travels to Varginha to investigate the case. 403 00:53:34,901 --> 00:53:37,938 He documents multiple key witnesses on video. 404 00:53:39,285 --> 00:53:42,046 This footage has never been released. 405 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:49,018 She is the wife of a deceased member of the military police. 406 00:53:49,053 --> 00:53:51,918 I think we should at least know what her husband's name was. 407 00:53:57,337 --> 00:54:00,720 Does she know if anyone has seen a medical report? 408 00:54:13,595 --> 00:54:15,700 Oh, they took a long time to deliver it, 409 00:54:15,735 --> 00:54:20,049 and they asked for money, and they, and there were missing pages. 410 00:54:28,126 --> 00:54:29,576 Once she lose, 411 00:54:29,611 --> 00:54:31,992 she searched for explanations, but nobody would give any. 412 00:54:33,408 --> 00:54:36,618 Was Marco Chereze the only person infected 413 00:54:38,136 --> 00:54:39,206 who died? 414 00:54:39,241 --> 00:54:40,794 We don't know. 415 00:54:40,829 --> 00:54:43,280 Where, uh, these two creatures 416 00:54:43,314 --> 00:54:46,662 the only ones that remain alive after the crash? 417 00:54:46,697 --> 00:54:47,836 We don't know. 418 00:54:47,870 --> 00:54:53,151 We only have, uh, very detailed information 419 00:54:53,186 --> 00:54:56,948 about the existence and the capture of these two. 420 00:54:56,983 --> 00:55:01,712 One capture in the morning and one at evening of the same day, 421 00:55:01,746 --> 00:55:03,438 January 20, 1996. 422 00:55:05,854 --> 00:55:07,856 According to credible reports, 423 00:55:07,890 --> 00:55:10,514 there were two captures on January 20th. 424 00:55:12,378 --> 00:55:14,552 Hours before the girls' encounter, 425 00:55:14,587 --> 00:55:17,762 the fire brigade captured a being. 426 00:55:17,797 --> 00:55:19,971 This capture was thoroughly investigated 427 00:55:20,006 --> 00:55:23,285 by leading Brazilian researcher and lawyer 428 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,322 Ubirajara Rodrigues. 429 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,512 This is the fire department... 430 00:55:43,547 --> 00:55:46,860 Dr. Leir teamed up with Ubirajara. 431 00:55:46,895 --> 00:55:49,967 They questioned the fire battalion allegedly involved 432 00:55:50,001 --> 00:55:52,141 in the capture of the first creature. 433 00:55:52,176 --> 00:55:54,627 This is the creature. 434 00:55:54,661 --> 00:55:58,838 And this is a, kind of, equipment that is used to catch it. 435 00:55:58,872 --> 00:56:01,875 The fire department was dispatched to this location 436 00:56:01,910 --> 00:56:05,672 after receiving several calls from concerned residents 437 00:56:05,707 --> 00:56:08,882 who reported seeing something strange in the area. 438 00:57:06,077 --> 00:57:09,736 The Army truck entered by this gate here. 439 00:57:09,771 --> 00:57:12,601 Got in over here. 440 00:57:14,292 --> 00:57:16,536 Got the creature already dead from inside. 441 00:57:20,471 --> 00:57:22,093 The presence of several elements 442 00:57:22,128 --> 00:57:24,441 from the military police, from the Army... 443 00:57:24,475 --> 00:57:27,789 - ...several doctors, nurses... 444 00:57:30,101 --> 00:57:32,863 This convoy left the place and went to Tres Coracoes. 445 00:57:32,897 --> 00:57:35,382 Both creatures left at the same time. 446 00:57:39,317 --> 00:57:42,769 And the creature that was alive got to Campinas alive. 447 00:58:00,891 --> 00:58:03,480 The team drives to meet with a family 448 00:58:03,514 --> 00:58:07,794 who saw a UFO hovering over the area of the encounter 449 00:58:07,829 --> 00:58:08,761 and capture. 450 00:58:12,350 --> 00:58:13,317 Okay, let me ask. 451 00:58:14,111 --> 00:58:16,493 - Let me ask. - Yeah. 452 00:58:16,527 --> 00:58:19,323 How about we film the back of their heads talking to me? 453 00:58:19,979 --> 00:58:21,290 Like, I don't know. 454 00:58:28,297 --> 00:58:30,645 - Hey, Fernanda, we have two options. - Okay. 455 00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:35,373 Okay. One, we blur his faces, no problem, and we will do that. 456 00:58:35,408 --> 00:58:40,724 Two, we film from the backside and their and their faces aren't seen ever. 457 00:58:40,758 --> 00:58:46,557 Like doctors, and they all saw the UFO right over this area. 458 00:58:46,592 --> 00:58:51,286 It looked like they were looking for something, like it was doing a grid search. 459 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,357 And this is a very respectable family. 460 00:58:53,391 --> 00:58:56,256 They don't want their faces on camera. 461 00:58:56,291 --> 00:58:57,844 They want to talk and tell what they saw, 462 00:58:57,879 --> 00:59:00,088 but they don't want their faces revealed on camera, 463 00:59:00,122 --> 00:59:01,676 which happens. 464 00:59:02,918 --> 00:59:04,955 Okay, so we're standing 465 00:59:04,989 --> 00:59:08,545 in very near the area where the girls saw the creature. 466 00:59:08,579 --> 00:59:10,892 It was 1996, January. 467 00:59:10,926 --> 00:59:14,240 This entire family saw something they want to share with us, 468 00:59:14,274 --> 00:59:16,483 but they don't want to have their faces revealed. 469 00:59:16,518 --> 00:59:18,002 So what did they see? 470 01:01:01,727 --> 01:01:03,349 Did I hear... I heard Americana. 471 01:01:03,383 --> 01:01:04,661 - He stayed American. - Yes. 472 01:01:04,695 --> 01:01:06,214 What was that about? 473 01:01:07,180 --> 01:01:09,113 Some American officials... 474 01:01:09,148 --> 01:01:12,876 - Came here. - ...came here to talk about what they saw. 475 01:01:12,910 --> 01:01:14,601 - Yes. - Americans? 476 01:01:14,636 --> 01:01:16,983 Were they military? Were they police? 477 01:01:17,812 --> 01:01:18,709 Who were they? 478 01:01:36,002 --> 01:01:39,419 Is there any way that there is a conventional explanation 479 01:01:39,454 --> 01:01:41,456 to what they saw? 480 01:02:09,898 --> 01:02:11,451 I just want to go over 481 01:02:12,590 --> 01:02:15,973 that interview and what I find. 482 01:02:16,008 --> 01:02:20,219 First of all, they hesitated on whether or not they even wanted to go on camera. 483 01:02:20,253 --> 01:02:21,945 They canceled yesterday. 484 01:02:21,979 --> 01:02:25,258 Today they were like, "Hmm. We don't want... 485 01:02:25,293 --> 01:02:27,398 Oh, sorry... 486 01:02:27,433 --> 01:02:29,538 "We don't want our faces on camera." 487 01:02:29,573 --> 01:02:33,750 It was like an entire family, and they all saw this object and it was really big. 488 01:02:34,405 --> 01:02:35,406 Shaped like a disc, 489 01:02:36,062 --> 01:02:36,960 zero noise. 490 01:02:38,133 --> 01:02:39,894 You have witnesses like that. 491 01:02:39,928 --> 01:02:43,069 They're friends of the doctor, the guy that we rent the house from. 492 01:02:43,104 --> 01:02:47,246 That you could just tell they've been sitting on that story for 26 years. 493 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,938 How excited he was to finally share it. 494 01:03:53,381 --> 01:03:57,695 There was unusual activity at the base. 495 01:03:57,730 --> 01:04:01,803 There were helicopters from the Navy, 496 01:04:01,838 --> 01:04:03,632 which in itself was unusual. 497 01:04:03,667 --> 01:04:04,702 He sees a box. 498 01:04:06,566 --> 01:04:07,740 Was the box unusual? 499 01:05:18,224 --> 01:05:22,746 So to this day, has he spoken to any of them that went to Varginha? 500 01:05:23,436 --> 01:05:26,370 - No, no. - Nothing. 501 01:05:26,405 --> 01:05:28,131 - Yeah. - Wow. 502 01:05:33,895 --> 01:05:35,345 According to the witness, 503 01:05:35,379 --> 01:05:38,072 it wasn't only the drivers who were never seen again. 504 01:05:38,969 --> 01:05:41,730 Their Captain Edson Ramirez, 505 01:05:41,765 --> 01:05:44,354 also left without a word. 506 01:06:10,967 --> 01:06:13,521 January, 1996. 507 01:06:13,555 --> 01:06:17,421 A radiologist has an unexpected visit by the military 508 01:06:17,456 --> 01:06:19,527 while on duty at regional hospital. 509 01:06:20,424 --> 01:06:22,530 He agrees to share his story, 510 01:06:22,564 --> 01:06:25,326 provided his identity remains concealed. 511 01:06:44,690 --> 01:06:46,761 So we have a big military presence 512 01:06:46,795 --> 01:06:48,383 on the outside of the hospital. 513 01:06:48,418 --> 01:06:50,213 We've got two army and two police 514 01:06:50,247 --> 01:06:52,491 on the inside of the hospital with a box 515 01:06:52,525 --> 01:06:55,011 and something inside of a black zip body bag. 516 01:08:05,943 --> 01:08:07,738 But what did it smell like? 517 01:08:13,779 --> 01:08:18,370 When they took whatever it was in that black bag, 518 01:08:18,404 --> 01:08:23,202 and they left the hospital, the military and the police with that bag 519 01:08:23,237 --> 01:08:24,376 and that thing, 520 01:08:25,653 --> 01:08:26,826 did the smell leave? 521 01:08:57,202 --> 01:09:02,241 Three of the most strange, bizarre points, 522 01:09:03,518 --> 01:09:06,521 of this encounter. 523 01:09:40,900 --> 01:09:42,799 Probably about ten months ago, 524 01:09:44,387 --> 01:09:46,872 Marco managed to reach 525 01:09:48,045 --> 01:09:50,669 a vetted, legitimate witness 526 01:09:50,703 --> 01:09:56,537 who was involved in the transportation of the, they call them E.T. 527 01:09:56,571 --> 01:09:58,366 or the being. 528 01:09:58,401 --> 01:10:02,715 Um, this guy was so scared, 529 01:10:02,750 --> 01:10:07,030 uh, Marco spent, I think, eight to ten months, 530 01:10:07,064 --> 01:10:11,207 slowly developing a relationship with this guy. 531 01:10:11,241 --> 01:10:17,282 And about four days ago he agreed to meet with me and Marco, just the two of us. 532 01:10:17,316 --> 01:10:19,939 So we drove late into the night, 533 01:10:19,974 --> 01:10:23,771 we met him at a bar. When he arrived, he was with another guy. 534 01:10:25,566 --> 01:10:27,671 He took us to a different location. 535 01:10:27,706 --> 01:10:30,812 We sat outside and we talked for a couple of hours 536 01:10:30,847 --> 01:10:34,264 about coming forward, appearing in the documentary. 537 01:10:34,299 --> 01:10:38,337 I've never ever had the opportunity to interview a witness 538 01:10:38,372 --> 01:10:40,753 that potentially handles an extraterrestrial being. 539 01:10:43,377 --> 01:10:46,552 I'm worried about the military getting wind of what's going on 540 01:10:46,587 --> 01:10:49,762 because there clearly paying attention to this witness. 541 01:10:49,797 --> 01:10:52,248 I'm worried about them getting a phone call, 542 01:10:52,282 --> 01:10:55,527 reminding him of his oath of secrecy. 543 01:10:55,561 --> 01:10:58,875 I don't want to put someone else's family in harm's way. 544 01:11:01,533 --> 01:11:03,776 So you're always, in the back of your mind, 545 01:11:03,811 --> 01:11:05,744 in a situation like this, 546 01:11:05,778 --> 01:11:08,298 you know that at any moment, the carpet can get pulled out from under you, 547 01:11:08,333 --> 01:11:11,370 and it's not a done deal until it's a done deal. 548 01:11:11,405 --> 01:11:14,511 Listen. I wonder if we should rent a hotel room 549 01:11:14,546 --> 01:11:16,996 and then have him come to us. 550 01:11:17,031 --> 01:11:20,068 Because, then we can get all the gear inside the hotel room 551 01:11:20,103 --> 01:11:22,312 and then he can just show up and walk in. 552 01:11:22,347 --> 01:11:25,798 We can, we can stop at the gas station. 553 01:11:25,833 --> 01:11:29,630 Marco coordinates with the witness, military Ex, 554 01:11:29,664 --> 01:11:31,735 to secure a safe meeting location. 555 01:11:31,770 --> 01:11:35,843 Yes. I made appointment with him in the some hotel right here. 556 01:11:35,877 --> 01:11:37,741 Close to here and then, so I think we have to drove... 557 01:11:37,776 --> 01:11:39,950 - We go to the hotel first. - Yeah, we go... 558 01:11:39,985 --> 01:11:42,125 - Check in and then he just walks in. - Exactly. 559 01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:43,437 - Yeah, that's good. 560 01:11:48,062 --> 01:11:51,237 I feel that, that anxiety in my stomach, you know? 561 01:11:52,515 --> 01:11:53,481 It's just like... 562 01:11:55,794 --> 01:12:00,419 We pull this off and it's just like first time. 563 01:12:00,454 --> 01:12:02,248 It will be the most compelling testimony 564 01:12:02,283 --> 01:12:04,665 ever revealed on the history of this case. 565 01:12:06,322 --> 01:12:09,359 - Oh, my God. This hill's so steep. - I know. 566 01:12:15,572 --> 01:12:17,643 Entrada, this is the hotel. 567 01:12:17,678 --> 01:12:19,542 I would get a quick shot of it, 568 01:12:19,576 --> 01:12:21,544 and I'd shut these cameras off right now. 569 01:12:22,959 --> 01:12:24,270 Can you guys do that? 570 01:12:24,305 --> 01:12:25,202 Shut everything off. 571 01:12:28,033 --> 01:12:28,861 Guys? 572 01:12:29,828 --> 01:12:30,725 - Yeah. - Right. 573 01:12:31,277 --> 01:12:32,209 Right here. 574 01:12:34,246 --> 01:12:36,455 Here? Fuck! This room is small. 575 01:12:36,490 --> 01:12:38,975 You can't even use these cameras in here. 576 01:12:39,009 --> 01:12:40,321 Oh, my God! 577 01:12:40,356 --> 01:12:42,910 Okay. He's trying to find the room with two beds. 578 01:12:43,911 --> 01:12:45,015 It'd be better. 579 01:12:45,050 --> 01:12:45,982 - Yeah. - Yeah. 580 01:12:51,815 --> 01:12:52,644 Mark it. 581 01:12:53,541 --> 01:12:54,715 Okay. 582 01:13:01,031 --> 01:13:02,481 Okay. He's on. 583 01:13:02,516 --> 01:13:08,073 Okay. So we are sitting here with Military X who clearly 584 01:13:08,107 --> 01:13:09,661 doesn't want his identity revealed 585 01:13:09,695 --> 01:13:11,283 which we're not going to do. 586 01:13:11,317 --> 01:13:15,460 And he's going to provide enough detail, not too much, 587 01:13:15,494 --> 01:13:17,496 but enough detail on operations 588 01:13:17,531 --> 01:13:19,671 that he was involved with with the Varginha case. 589 01:16:36,419 --> 01:16:39,042 When he was in Humanitas, 590 01:16:39,077 --> 01:16:41,562 this is where he saw part of the creature. 591 01:16:41,597 --> 01:16:45,048 - Yes. - What was the atmosphere like? 592 01:16:45,083 --> 01:16:50,053 What were the looks on the faces of the other people in the room? 593 01:16:50,088 --> 01:16:51,676 - Yeah. - What was it like? 594 01:16:51,710 --> 01:16:53,194 Can he put me in that room? 595 01:17:25,675 --> 01:17:29,403 When you looked and you saw the leg 596 01:17:29,437 --> 01:17:33,096 or part of the leg and the foot with the "V"... 597 01:17:33,131 --> 01:17:35,064 - Right. - ...what did you think? 598 01:18:39,404 --> 01:18:42,372 ESA military base, is roughly 20 miles 599 01:18:42,407 --> 01:18:43,822 southeast of Varginha. 600 01:18:46,031 --> 01:18:47,377 According to witnesses, 601 01:18:47,412 --> 01:18:50,518 the Army operations originated from here. 602 01:18:52,382 --> 01:18:57,180 Is there filmed footage, video footage of the creature 603 01:18:57,215 --> 01:18:58,768 that he knows about? 604 01:19:12,230 --> 01:19:17,407 Military X says that on January 22nd 1996, 605 01:19:17,442 --> 01:19:18,892 he drove the creature 606 01:19:18,926 --> 01:19:23,759 from Humanitas Hospital in Varginha to ESA Army Base, 607 01:19:23,793 --> 01:19:25,795 where it would remain overnight. 608 01:21:03,686 --> 01:21:06,689 Does he have any idea 609 01:21:07,655 --> 01:21:11,659 where the creature went? 610 01:21:11,694 --> 01:21:15,077 Because, uh, it went to Regionas, 611 01:21:15,111 --> 01:21:19,736 then Humanitas, then ESA, then Campinas. 612 01:21:19,771 --> 01:21:21,117 And then what happened? 613 01:21:22,808 --> 01:21:26,674 According to Military X, he transported a creature 614 01:21:26,709 --> 01:21:29,125 from Humanitas Hospital in Varginha 615 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,577 to ESA military base and Tres Coracoes 616 01:21:32,611 --> 01:21:34,924 where it stayed for the night. 617 01:21:34,959 --> 01:21:36,581 Early the following morning, 618 01:21:36,615 --> 01:21:38,652 the convoy continued their mission, 619 01:21:38,686 --> 01:21:41,103 heading south from Fernao Dias freeway, 620 01:21:41,137 --> 01:21:44,727 then west on Don Pedro to Espcex army base 621 01:21:44,761 --> 01:21:46,591 in the city of Campinas. 622 01:22:23,455 --> 01:22:25,871 The team meets with Brazilian Air Force 623 01:22:25,906 --> 01:22:29,496 traffic control officer, Jose Manuel Fernandez, 624 01:22:30,462 --> 01:22:32,223 his unit was responsible 625 01:22:32,257 --> 01:22:37,124 for monitoring specific airspace over the state of Sao Paulo. 626 01:22:37,159 --> 01:22:38,954 Do you know anything about this case? 627 01:23:26,587 --> 01:23:28,624 Was it Americans involved, 628 01:23:28,658 --> 01:23:30,591 or was it just the Brazilians involved? 629 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,047 Only Americans. Only. 630 01:23:52,061 --> 01:23:54,822 And how does he know that the Americans were involved? 631 01:28:45,699 --> 01:28:47,839 Has anybody seen Eric Lopes? 632 01:28:47,874 --> 01:28:49,807 Has anyone ever tried to talk to him? 633 01:28:49,841 --> 01:28:52,154 Yeah. People try to reach him out. 634 01:28:52,188 --> 01:28:53,397 - People have tried? - Yeah. 635 01:28:53,431 --> 01:28:55,191 And nada? 636 01:28:55,226 --> 01:28:58,125 With the help of Varginha mayor, Verdi, 637 01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,611 the team connects with Mr. da Costa, 638 01:29:00,645 --> 01:29:04,442 a military police corporal in 1996. 639 01:29:04,477 --> 01:29:06,720 His son, Romulo A Ribeiro, 640 01:29:06,755 --> 01:29:10,517 agrees to escort them to the home of Eric Lopes. 641 01:29:25,394 --> 01:29:27,327 Can you go up there? 642 01:29:29,018 --> 01:29:31,814 Eric Lopes is the military police officer 643 01:29:31,849 --> 01:29:35,093 from P2 who reportedly drove the car 644 01:29:35,128 --> 01:29:38,269 during the second capture with Marco Cherese. 645 01:29:40,754 --> 01:29:43,550 Not even the family of the deceased officer 646 01:29:43,585 --> 01:29:46,208 has been able to get a statement from Lopes. 647 01:29:52,421 --> 01:29:54,527 If the reports are true, 648 01:29:54,561 --> 01:29:57,771 he is the only living witness of the second capture. 649 01:29:59,359 --> 01:30:03,259 Officer Lopes has been unreachable for 26 years. 650 01:30:07,298 --> 01:30:08,782 Oh, my God. 651 01:30:08,817 --> 01:30:10,405 I'll go with him. I'm going with him. 652 01:30:21,485 --> 01:30:22,417 Hey! 653 01:30:41,159 --> 01:30:44,059 Tell him that the mayor has blessed us. 654 01:30:44,093 --> 01:30:45,129 You tell him the mayor said... 655 01:30:52,516 --> 01:30:53,793 This is Eric Lopes? 656 01:30:54,932 --> 01:30:56,243 Let me just... Hold on, please. 657 01:30:56,278 --> 01:30:58,038 Let me ask you a question. Please. 658 01:31:02,008 --> 01:31:04,459 - He is his friend not... - Oh, okay. 659 01:31:08,773 --> 01:31:10,016 What? 660 01:31:11,466 --> 01:31:12,950 Hold up, hold up. 661 01:31:12,984 --> 01:31:15,021 Just ask him one question for me. 662 01:31:19,957 --> 01:31:23,374 Will he ever come forward to make a statement? 663 01:31:34,627 --> 01:31:35,593 What's happening? 664 01:31:37,181 --> 01:31:40,287 This is the house of Eric Lopes. 665 01:31:40,322 --> 01:31:43,843 - Yeah. - But he doesn't like to talk. 666 01:31:48,261 --> 01:31:50,263 And the threat is that they might shoot us 667 01:31:50,297 --> 01:31:51,920 because we're on the property, trespassing. 668 01:31:53,749 --> 01:31:54,992 They're talking right now. 669 01:32:13,355 --> 01:32:15,530 - So, Eric won't talk? - No. 670 01:32:15,564 --> 01:32:17,946 What just happened? I'm trying... What happened? 671 01:32:17,980 --> 01:32:18,912 Is that Eric Lopes? 672 01:32:20,258 --> 01:32:21,708 - Who is that? - Yeah, Eric Lopes. 673 01:32:21,743 --> 01:32:23,123 That's Eric Lopes. 674 01:32:24,228 --> 01:32:25,505 He doesn't want to talk at all. 675 01:32:28,025 --> 01:32:29,613 - Okay. - Yeah, let's go. 676 01:32:29,647 --> 01:32:31,062 Oh, my God. That was Eric. 677 01:32:32,408 --> 01:32:33,513 Just saw him. 678 01:32:37,655 --> 01:32:40,900 Okay, okay. We'll go talk. 679 01:32:40,934 --> 01:32:42,764 Did you get him? Dave, did you get him? 680 01:32:42,798 --> 01:32:46,077 Please tell me you got him. That was Eric Lopes. 681 01:32:46,112 --> 01:32:48,493 Oh, my fucking God. Did you get him in the window? 682 01:32:48,528 --> 01:32:49,943 - Yeah. - Holy shit. 683 01:32:51,255 --> 01:32:52,428 He was on the window the whole time. 684 01:32:52,463 --> 01:32:53,913 Oh, my God. You got him? 685 01:32:53,947 --> 01:32:57,606 This, here. I'm ready to go at this. 686 01:32:57,641 --> 01:33:03,819 You'll be shot if you don't live here. 687 01:33:03,854 --> 01:33:05,200 - He will shoot you? - Yeah. 688 01:33:06,166 --> 01:33:08,410 Fuck! 689 01:33:08,444 --> 01:33:12,448 If that guy had nothing to hide, he would have just said so. 690 01:33:14,589 --> 01:33:18,144 That guy was driving the car that Marco... was in. 691 01:33:19,076 --> 01:33:20,180 Write what we just did. 692 01:33:21,630 --> 01:33:23,736 I got the interview yesterday. It was pretty good. 693 01:33:23,770 --> 01:33:24,599 For what? 694 01:33:25,530 --> 01:33:27,567 No. Right now was pretty gnarly. 695 01:33:38,992 --> 01:33:41,339 Ask him if we can talk about what we just did. 696 01:33:45,689 --> 01:33:46,621 Okay, okay. 697 01:33:49,624 --> 01:33:50,797 Which way did he go? 698 01:33:50,832 --> 01:33:51,764 To the left. 699 01:33:55,146 --> 01:33:56,078 We're stopping here? 700 01:33:57,528 --> 01:33:58,460 Okay. 701 01:33:59,979 --> 01:34:01,325 God, this is... 702 01:34:06,571 --> 01:34:08,608 What exactly did he say? 703 01:34:16,305 --> 01:34:18,825 And he believed that Eric Lopes was serious? 704 01:34:20,413 --> 01:34:21,966 Yes, he was. 705 01:35:43,772 --> 01:35:46,948 If his story is true, 706 01:35:48,743 --> 01:35:53,506 he is walking around with a level of confirmation 707 01:35:53,540 --> 01:35:56,267 that only a handful of people on this planet have. 708 01:35:57,096 --> 01:35:59,650 What does that feel like? 709 01:37:25,701 --> 01:37:28,497 May 8th, 1996, 710 01:37:28,532 --> 01:37:31,880 with mounting pressure from media and witnesses, 711 01:37:31,915 --> 01:37:35,953 the military base, ESA, holds a press conference. 712 01:37:35,988 --> 01:37:38,335 General Lima, addresses the crowd. 713 01:41:01,745 --> 01:41:04,161 The accumulation of aspects, 714 01:41:04,196 --> 01:41:05,542 the girls who saw something, 715 01:41:05,576 --> 01:41:08,062 the other people in the town who saw something, 716 01:41:08,096 --> 01:41:10,892 this wasn't an isolated event where you got one witness 717 01:41:10,926 --> 01:41:12,721 saying, "Oh, I saw something extraordinary." 718 01:41:13,205 --> 01:41:14,447 Not at all. 719 01:41:14,482 --> 01:41:17,864 They seem to be relatively naive young girls, 720 01:41:17,899 --> 01:41:20,419 and there were fire department people involved, 721 01:41:21,868 --> 01:41:23,767 who saw the beings, too. 722 01:41:23,801 --> 01:41:25,665 And one nice thing about it is that 723 01:41:25,700 --> 01:41:28,565 it takes the onus away from saying things only 724 01:41:28,599 --> 01:41:30,084 happen in the United States. 725 01:41:30,118 --> 01:41:32,051 Well, there was the United States involvement, 726 01:41:32,086 --> 01:41:33,190 and it wouldn't surprise me 727 01:41:33,225 --> 01:41:35,019 if they paid to pick up the wreckage 728 01:41:35,054 --> 01:41:36,918 and you know all the rest of the stuff. 729 01:41:37,298 --> 01:41:38,782 Why not? 730 01:41:38,816 --> 01:41:41,440 Makes sense. Cheap way to get information. 731 01:41:41,474 --> 01:41:43,097 Let the other guy to the work. 732 01:43:41,284 --> 01:43:43,251 I believe that the Varginha case 733 01:43:43,286 --> 01:43:46,703 is much more important today because it is more recent 734 01:43:46,737 --> 01:43:49,395 and some of the events have not unfolded yet. 735 01:44:01,614 --> 01:44:03,478 Did she have any connection with eyes? 736 01:44:03,513 --> 01:44:06,930 Did she make any... Like she saw eye to eye 737 01:44:06,964 --> 01:44:09,484 - with the being? - Mmm-hmm. 738 01:44:37,961 --> 01:44:41,482 Were there live aliens seen walking around this town? 739 01:44:46,590 --> 01:44:47,453 Mmm-hmm. 740 01:44:48,351 --> 01:44:52,976 I have deal with this case in 1996 741 01:44:53,010 --> 01:44:56,048 because I have some friends from there. 742 01:44:56,082 --> 01:45:01,674 He told that, "Oh, you don't know what is true. But I know what I saw." 743 01:45:40,817 --> 01:45:42,232 Oh, James. 744 01:45:44,476 --> 01:45:47,479 Oh, yeah. Really. 745 01:45:47,513 --> 01:45:48,687 Weight off the shoulders. 746 01:45:48,721 --> 01:45:50,136 - Mmm-hmm. - Yeah. 747 01:45:50,171 --> 01:45:53,657 I just wonder like what they said 748 01:45:53,692 --> 01:45:55,866 to these witnesses that 25 years later, 749 01:45:55,901 --> 01:45:58,559 they still don't want to talk about it on camera at all. 750 01:45:59,491 --> 01:46:01,769 It's, like, unbelievable. 751 01:46:01,803 --> 01:46:05,980 It's like you over them... Even compensation that they still won't do it. 752 01:46:06,014 --> 01:46:07,671 I know. It's like money doesn't... 753 01:46:07,706 --> 01:46:10,225 Well, they won't do it. That's weird. 754 01:46:16,370 --> 01:46:17,612 The reason why they haven't made 755 01:46:17,647 --> 01:46:19,614 overt contacts is because we're so aggressive. 756 01:46:25,827 --> 01:46:27,381 Come on. 757 01:46:41,325 --> 01:46:43,707 Would that smell make a good perfume?