1 00:00:04,549 --> 00:00:06,836 Ron represented a good time in my life. 2 00:00:06,860 --> 00:00:08,366 Yes, we were having sex on film, 3 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:10,750 but there wasn't anything tawdry about it. 4 00:00:11,050 --> 00:00:14,110 But when it all came out, I wasn't shocked. 5 00:00:14,710 --> 00:00:17,069 I think you did it, you sick motherfucker. 6 00:00:20,169 --> 00:00:23,610 Ron Jeremy was the biggest porn star in the world. 7 00:00:24,610 --> 00:00:26,616 Ron Jeremy is ubiquitous. 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,486 He made it into the mainstream. 9 00:00:29,510 --> 00:00:33,875 Ron Jeremy shirts, clothes, cigars. His own dildo. 10 00:00:33,899 --> 00:00:36,606 Every man I know is like, "Oh, yeah, I know Ron Jeremy. 11 00:00:36,630 --> 00:00:38,915 "He's a legend." No, he's not legend. 12 00:00:38,939 --> 00:00:40,516 The man's a rapist. 13 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:44,436 I never for a second thought Ron was a predator. 14 00:00:44,460 --> 00:00:48,386 Pervert? Yes. Predator? No. 15 00:00:48,410 --> 00:00:50,866 Jeremy is facing 34 counts of sexual assault. 16 00:00:50,890 --> 00:00:53,695 He's right up there against Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby 17 00:00:53,719 --> 00:00:56,895 as this celebrity sexual predator. 18 00:00:56,919 --> 00:01:00,919 People don't want to hear bad stories about their heroes. 19 00:01:02,030 --> 00:01:06,675 They don't want to hear that that person's a predator. 20 00:01:06,699 --> 00:01:09,949 I think there's hundreds of victims out there. 21 00:01:23,869 --> 00:01:27,436 Well, we met. I was kind of like this, with my legs spread. 22 00:01:27,460 --> 00:01:31,156 And I was down about there. 23 00:01:31,180 --> 00:01:33,595 Christina was down about that spot. 24 00:01:33,619 --> 00:01:36,845 And she looked up and I looked down, and I said hello, 25 00:01:36,869 --> 00:01:38,316 and she said hello, and then... 26 00:01:38,340 --> 00:01:40,260 she ate my pussy. 27 00:01:44,869 --> 00:01:46,006 I'm Ginger Lynn. 28 00:01:46,030 --> 00:01:48,446 I used to be a porn star. 29 00:01:48,470 --> 00:01:52,440 My name is Christy Cannon and, when I was 18, 30 00:01:52,464 --> 00:01:56,784 I got into the adult business fresh out of high school. 31 00:02:00,144 --> 00:02:03,480 Ginger and I were huge in the '80s. 32 00:02:03,504 --> 00:02:07,280 She's the petite blonde, I'm the big-titted brunette. 33 00:02:07,304 --> 00:02:11,024 Christy, myself, Ron, we were three of the biggest names. 34 00:02:16,384 --> 00:02:19,120 It was the golden age of porn. 35 00:02:19,144 --> 00:02:20,750 There were big budgets. 36 00:02:20,774 --> 00:02:22,560 There were big scripts. 37 00:02:22,584 --> 00:02:24,480 There were big actors. 38 00:02:24,504 --> 00:02:27,224 It was glamorous, it was exciting. 39 00:02:28,304 --> 00:02:30,589 There were parties. 40 00:02:30,613 --> 00:02:34,640 There were people fucking everybody anywhere and everywhere. 41 00:02:34,664 --> 00:02:35,839 We were rebels. 42 00:02:35,863 --> 00:02:38,230 We were doing something that was illegal at the time, 43 00:02:38,254 --> 00:02:40,943 which was part of the intrigue for me. 44 00:02:42,863 --> 00:02:47,230 Ron Jeremy has always been, to me, the same character... 45 00:02:49,823 --> 00:02:54,224 I remember one scene, a whole movie called WPINK-TV. 46 00:02:55,823 --> 00:02:59,870 The Pink Network is on the air from station KSEX. 47 00:02:59,894 --> 00:03:03,440 It's TV as you've never seen it before. 48 00:03:03,464 --> 00:03:06,693 Tonight, starring Penthouse Pet Christy Canyon... 49 00:03:08,224 --> 00:03:09,669 Ron Jeremy. 50 00:03:09,693 --> 00:03:13,230 We played like anchors, like the news anchors. 51 00:03:13,254 --> 00:03:16,750 Are you tired of nightly killings and terrorism? 52 00:03:16,774 --> 00:03:19,919 Are you bored with the same old reruns? 53 00:03:19,943 --> 00:03:24,310 Has TV almost gotten you to a point of turning it off? 54 00:03:24,334 --> 00:03:28,664 Well, don't pull that plug, because we're going to turn you on. 55 00:03:31,304 --> 00:03:33,719 He just had me laughing all the time. 56 00:03:33,743 --> 00:03:37,390 He was just almost like a cartoon character. 57 00:03:37,414 --> 00:03:39,360 He didn't seem real. 58 00:03:39,384 --> 00:03:42,640 Ladies and Germs, it is time for my favourite game show, 59 00:03:42,664 --> 00:03:44,589 Beat The Cock. 60 00:03:44,613 --> 00:03:47,360 And he'd stand up and he'd make his cock go around and, like, 61 00:03:47,384 --> 00:03:50,520 he'd kind of move his hips and the cock would go in circles. 62 00:03:50,544 --> 00:03:53,030 Want to see alternate viewing? 63 00:03:53,054 --> 00:03:56,904 And then he'd say, "Now we're going to go counterclockwise." 64 00:03:58,943 --> 00:04:00,919 That's counterclockwise alternate viewing. 65 00:04:00,943 --> 00:04:04,520 Everyone that knew anything about in the adult business 66 00:04:04,544 --> 00:04:06,030 knew Ron Jeremy. 67 00:04:06,054 --> 00:04:07,743 He was notorious. 68 00:04:11,544 --> 00:04:14,943 Ron started in the adult business in about 1979. 69 00:04:16,493 --> 00:04:19,599 I might have seen him in some of the Pussy Cat theatres I was in, 70 00:04:19,623 --> 00:04:23,640 but the adult business really took off when VHS came around 71 00:04:23,664 --> 00:04:27,440 because people could watch adult movies in the comfort 72 00:04:27,464 --> 00:04:30,160 of their home. 73 00:04:30,184 --> 00:04:32,200 He is the average Joe. 74 00:04:32,224 --> 00:04:35,440 He's the guy that's sitting at home that can't get the Christy Canyon 75 00:04:35,464 --> 00:04:36,919 or the Ginger Lynn. 76 00:04:36,943 --> 00:04:41,310 But you see Ron Jeremy fucking them and, and it gave men confidence. 77 00:04:41,334 --> 00:04:44,669 On top of being on the right place at the right time, 78 00:04:44,693 --> 00:04:46,544 he had a very large penis. 79 00:04:51,024 --> 00:04:52,440 Nine and three quarters. 80 00:04:52,464 --> 00:04:54,799 Everyone wanted to see nine and three quarters. 81 00:04:54,823 --> 00:04:57,640 There was a scene that I'm thinking of, and this guy couldn't get 82 00:04:57,664 --> 00:05:00,799 it up, and they're like, "Go to the go to the buffet table, 83 00:05:00,823 --> 00:05:03,440 "get Ron, have him fill in for the pop shots." 84 00:05:03,464 --> 00:05:06,599 So there's Ron fucking me and, like, eating a hot dog 85 00:05:06,623 --> 00:05:09,599 cos his face was out of frame, if that makes sense. 86 00:05:09,623 --> 00:05:11,570 They only needed a cock shot, 87 00:05:11,594 --> 00:05:13,880 so he's like double-fisting the food 88 00:05:13,904 --> 00:05:16,904 and, like, just kind of, like, pumping away. 89 00:05:31,854 --> 00:05:34,549 My name is Jim Powers. I direct adult movies. 90 00:05:34,573 --> 00:05:36,849 I met Ron Jeremy in 1992. 91 00:05:36,873 --> 00:05:38,880 I was Ron Jeremy's cameraman. 92 00:05:38,904 --> 00:05:43,240 I would shoot Ronnie typically on a weekly basis, I'd be with him. 93 00:05:43,264 --> 00:05:44,384 For years. 94 00:05:46,264 --> 00:05:48,880 Ron Jeremy had something to do with some of the most famous 95 00:05:48,904 --> 00:05:50,384 porn movies ever made. 96 00:05:52,134 --> 00:05:54,799 We did the Texas Chainsaw Massacre as a parody. 97 00:05:54,823 --> 00:05:56,719 They accidentally pick up a hitchhiker 98 00:05:56,743 --> 00:05:59,024 who worked at the old dildo factory. 99 00:06:00,573 --> 00:06:02,910 My whole family's in dildos. 100 00:06:02,934 --> 00:06:06,000 A whole family of perverts. 101 00:06:06,024 --> 00:06:09,214 They get caught in this insane dildo madness. 102 00:06:15,414 --> 00:06:17,750 Pussy Face, Pussy Face, give me that dildo. 103 00:06:17,774 --> 00:06:20,880 Pussy Face. You used to be Pussy Face. 104 00:06:20,904 --> 00:06:22,799 It was an absolutely ridiculous movie. 105 00:06:22,823 --> 00:06:24,493 It was so over the top. 106 00:06:37,774 --> 00:06:40,080 He was a good actor, 107 00:06:40,104 --> 00:06:42,400 but I shoot porn, so I think our standards 108 00:06:42,424 --> 00:06:43,424 are a little bit lower. 109 00:06:44,493 --> 00:06:46,743 So don't listen to me. 110 00:06:51,464 --> 00:06:54,854 There was never any drama that I heard on a set. 111 00:06:59,544 --> 00:07:04,184 I never saw anybody really fighting with Ron Jeremy over anything. 112 00:07:06,703 --> 00:07:09,110 I never saw him be aggressive. 113 00:07:09,134 --> 00:07:11,400 Ron Jeremy is a very decent person. 114 00:07:11,424 --> 00:07:12,599 He's very kind. 115 00:07:12,623 --> 00:07:14,544 Nicest guy you'd ever meet. 116 00:07:16,544 --> 00:07:19,144 The Ron Jeremy I knew was never a rapist. 117 00:07:22,344 --> 00:07:25,650 Ron represented an innocence in my life. 118 00:07:25,674 --> 00:07:27,010 Yes, we were having sex on film. 119 00:07:27,034 --> 00:07:29,370 There wasn't anything tawdry about it 120 00:07:29,394 --> 00:07:33,743 and I was lucky enough that he never overstepped his bounds with me. 121 00:07:34,743 --> 00:07:37,010 He would always try and fuck girls, 122 00:07:37,034 --> 00:07:38,910 but I never knew him in the '80s 123 00:07:38,934 --> 00:07:42,080 or the '90s to force himself on someone. 124 00:07:42,104 --> 00:07:44,370 Was he pushy? Absolutely. 125 00:07:44,394 --> 00:07:47,270 He was definitely a pushy guy. 126 00:07:47,294 --> 00:07:51,010 But I think Ron did become a caricature of who he was 127 00:07:51,034 --> 00:07:53,370 in the '70s and '80s and '90s. 128 00:07:53,394 --> 00:07:59,080 Maybe just decades of people adoring him and worshipping him, 129 00:07:59,104 --> 00:08:02,120 maybe it gave him a sense of this entitlement 130 00:08:02,144 --> 00:08:04,573 and this godlike complex. 131 00:08:07,014 --> 00:08:08,840 Something in him snapped. I don't know what. 132 00:08:08,864 --> 00:08:10,784 Something snapped in that man, though. 133 00:08:30,643 --> 00:08:31,980 Perfect. Perfect? 134 00:08:32,004 --> 00:08:33,804 It's all I need. 135 00:08:35,724 --> 00:08:41,419 My name is LB Zimmerman, and I am an actress and a comedy writer. 136 00:08:41,443 --> 00:08:46,549 Ron Hyatt, who is now known as Ron Jeremy, 137 00:08:46,573 --> 00:08:51,780 and I met in high school in 1967. 138 00:08:51,804 --> 00:08:55,700 We grew up in Bayside, Queens, New York. 139 00:08:55,724 --> 00:08:57,090 We were good friends. 140 00:08:57,114 --> 00:08:59,660 He came over to my house quite often, 141 00:08:59,684 --> 00:09:02,020 and my parents really liked him 142 00:09:02,044 --> 00:09:05,910 because he was this really cute, funny kid. 143 00:09:05,934 --> 00:09:07,090 A nice kid. 144 00:09:07,114 --> 00:09:09,060 He's hilarious. 145 00:09:09,084 --> 00:09:10,379 Oh, my God. 146 00:09:10,403 --> 00:09:14,730 The funniest kid I've ever known, you know, because he was always 147 00:09:14,754 --> 00:09:17,830 getting into some kind of mischief. 148 00:09:17,854 --> 00:09:22,700 We came from these nice Jewish homes where we waited 149 00:09:22,724 --> 00:09:24,090 until we got married. 150 00:09:24,114 --> 00:09:26,450 You know, that's what it was like back then. 151 00:09:26,474 --> 00:09:29,549 He was innocent, a very innocent kid. 152 00:09:29,573 --> 00:09:32,860 We were very good friends, but that's where it ended. 153 00:09:32,884 --> 00:09:36,140 There was no attraction other than that. 154 00:09:36,164 --> 00:09:38,780 I know he had girlfriends back then, 155 00:09:38,804 --> 00:09:42,860 and I never wanted to really hear about that. 156 00:09:42,884 --> 00:09:46,499 I had three girlfriends that I still love to this very day. 157 00:09:46,523 --> 00:09:49,090 I, if things weren't going well, I couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, 158 00:09:49,114 --> 00:09:51,190 couldn't think, totally distracted, 159 00:09:51,214 --> 00:09:53,660 that's when I realised that sex is simple. 160 00:09:53,684 --> 00:09:55,580 Love — that's painful. 161 00:09:55,604 --> 00:09:58,740 I knew girls liked him back then. 162 00:09:58,764 --> 00:10:00,629 Did you know Ron posed for Playgirl? 163 00:10:00,653 --> 00:10:03,350 Oh, my God, you have got to be kidding me. 164 00:10:03,374 --> 00:10:05,190 No, I never knew that. 165 00:10:05,214 --> 00:10:07,020 Do you want me to show you a picture? 166 00:10:07,044 --> 00:10:09,474 Yeah, you could show it to me. I don't care. 167 00:10:18,834 --> 00:10:21,549 Oh, my God. I'm dying. 168 00:10:21,573 --> 00:10:23,629 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. 169 00:10:23,653 --> 00:10:29,140 I'm covering this part, cos I just want to look at his face. 170 00:10:29,164 --> 00:10:32,660 Ron would call his you know what a schmekel. 171 00:10:32,684 --> 00:10:36,044 And why? Because schmekel is a great Yiddish word. 172 00:10:37,934 --> 00:10:40,270 He grew up Jewish, I grew up Jewish. 173 00:10:40,294 --> 00:10:42,780 Ron came from an intellectual family, an educated family, 174 00:10:42,804 --> 00:10:45,100 an upper middle-class family. 175 00:10:45,124 --> 00:10:47,734 His dad was a physicist, was a really smart guy. 176 00:10:50,014 --> 00:10:53,820 And, for some bizarre reason, a lot of the men in porn were Jewish. 177 00:10:53,844 --> 00:10:56,169 The father will tell his son, "Go get 'em. 178 00:10:56,193 --> 00:10:57,653 "Make your dad proud." 179 00:10:58,964 --> 00:11:00,660 I was a teacher, a licensed teacher. 180 00:11:00,684 --> 00:11:02,100 I even have a master's degree. 181 00:11:02,124 --> 00:11:04,940 I wanted to be an actor, so I quit the teaching. 182 00:11:04,964 --> 00:11:08,220 When he had the opportunity to get into porn movies, 183 00:11:08,244 --> 00:11:09,660 and I think a lot of people do this 184 00:11:09,684 --> 00:11:14,070 they just have a burning desire, and they see that as a short cut. 185 00:11:14,094 --> 00:11:17,379 He was a young, good-looking, thin guy. 186 00:11:17,403 --> 00:11:18,580 It made sense. 187 00:11:18,604 --> 00:11:20,990 This is my childhood friend. 188 00:11:21,014 --> 00:11:22,453 Who wouldn't be shocked... 189 00:11:24,374 --> 00:11:27,203 seeing their childhood friend as a porn star? 190 00:11:28,374 --> 00:11:32,379 I mean, we're not even talking like he just did a couple of films, 191 00:11:32,403 --> 00:11:35,379 you know. We're talking like, oh, my God. 192 00:11:35,403 --> 00:11:37,964 This guy was like the king of porn. 193 00:11:39,604 --> 00:11:42,179 I was disappointed when I heard that, 194 00:11:42,203 --> 00:11:45,860 because I thought he could do so much more in life. 195 00:11:45,884 --> 00:11:47,580 He's a good guy. 196 00:11:47,604 --> 00:11:51,914 You know, he made a wrong turn somewhere when he went in to porn. 197 00:12:03,684 --> 00:12:05,990 I don't know if he was a pervert in, like, 198 00:12:06,014 --> 00:12:07,299 some sort of demented sense, 199 00:12:07,323 --> 00:12:11,710 but I do think Ron Jeremy was a bit of a nymphomaniac. 200 00:12:11,734 --> 00:12:14,740 Ron was a guy that you could call up all the time and just toss him 201 00:12:14,764 --> 00:12:16,580 into a gang bang, toss him into whatever, 202 00:12:16,604 --> 00:12:18,150 because Ronnie was up for anything. 203 00:12:18,174 --> 00:12:21,270 The heyday, as far as his craziness, was the late '90s for porn. 204 00:12:21,294 --> 00:12:22,940 Everybody was trying to compete with 205 00:12:22,964 --> 00:12:24,629 the most ridiculous things they could. 206 00:12:24,653 --> 00:12:26,990 The world record-breaking, record-breaking gang bangs. 207 00:12:27,014 --> 00:12:28,790 Put your hands together 208 00:12:28,814 --> 00:12:33,179 and please welcome Spontaneous Xtasy. 209 00:12:33,203 --> 00:12:36,900 The first world record I set was a Spontaneous Xtasy 551, 210 00:12:36,924 --> 00:12:40,629 which means 551 penises penetrated her. 211 00:12:40,653 --> 00:12:42,629 So, how do you feel, being the new, er, 212 00:12:42,653 --> 00:12:45,460 try at the record-breaking with the gangbang situation? 213 00:12:45,484 --> 00:12:47,299 How do you feel? I feel fantastic. 214 00:12:47,323 --> 00:12:50,870 I feel excited and I'm ready to fuck. Really? Yeah. 215 00:12:50,894 --> 00:12:53,259 He was Santa Claus. He was a clown. 216 00:12:53,283 --> 00:12:55,259 Anything... He was a gorilla. 217 00:12:55,283 --> 00:12:56,844 Oh, man. 218 00:13:00,174 --> 00:13:02,179 One time I'm like, "Ronnie, why don't we do a scene 219 00:13:02,203 --> 00:13:04,220 "where you're, like, rolling around in grapes?" 220 00:13:04,244 --> 00:13:05,964 And Ronnie really thought this was sexy. 221 00:13:07,684 --> 00:13:09,299 Oh, God. 222 00:13:09,323 --> 00:13:12,100 How'd that dingleberry get in there? 223 00:13:12,124 --> 00:13:13,540 It didn't matter what it was. 224 00:13:13,564 --> 00:13:15,540 If Ron could get laid, he'd be in your movie. 225 00:13:15,564 --> 00:13:18,044 But he was still, Ron Jeremy was an icon. 226 00:13:22,174 --> 00:13:25,230 Girls were always coming over to him, wanting to pose for pictures. 227 00:13:25,254 --> 00:13:27,540 "You're Ron Jeremy," and they'd be flirting with him. 228 00:13:27,564 --> 00:13:28,820 "Show us your dick, Ronnie." 229 00:13:28,844 --> 00:13:31,150 Much like the Queen of England always does that, you know, 230 00:13:31,174 --> 00:13:32,350 they learned to wave. 231 00:13:32,374 --> 00:13:34,940 It was the same thing with Ron Jeremy, like the Queen of England. 232 00:13:34,964 --> 00:13:38,379 You know, you've got to do that wave down so you don't hurt your hand. 233 00:13:38,403 --> 00:13:40,710 He'd do the same pose with the guys. 234 00:13:40,734 --> 00:13:43,590 He'd go like this and you'd go like this, how big your dick was, 235 00:13:43,614 --> 00:13:46,820 or if it was a girl, she'd grab him by the dick or whatever. 236 00:13:46,844 --> 00:13:48,350 Right there. Right there, yeah. 237 00:13:48,374 --> 00:13:50,740 But Ron Jeremy, you could suck that dick right in front of 238 00:13:50,764 --> 00:13:52,429 the whole bar, he's not going to care. 239 00:13:52,453 --> 00:13:55,509 He probably forgot it happened the next day because, to him, 240 00:13:55,533 --> 00:13:56,940 that was the average night. 241 00:13:56,964 --> 00:13:59,299 You know, he's from a different world. 242 00:13:59,323 --> 00:14:02,259 And porn is, in some ways, is a different world. 243 00:14:08,174 --> 00:14:09,900 The porn industry here is massive. 244 00:14:09,924 --> 00:14:12,820 They say that there's billions of dollars made in the industry, 245 00:14:12,844 --> 00:14:16,283 but a vast majority comes out of the San Fernando Valley. 246 00:14:21,004 --> 00:14:25,429 For the last 20—plus years, this has been the mecca of porn. 247 00:14:25,453 --> 00:14:27,790 And when you drive through the Valley, 248 00:14:27,814 --> 00:14:31,020 it's beautiful, sweet, normal neighborhoods, 249 00:14:31,044 --> 00:14:33,590 cute little suburban houses, 250 00:14:33,614 --> 00:14:37,924 and inside is, you know, hardcore porn. 251 00:14:41,924 --> 00:14:46,710 My name is Alana Evans. I am an adult film star. 252 00:14:46,734 --> 00:14:48,660 First time I worked with Ron Jeremy 253 00:14:48,684 --> 00:14:53,070 was in one of those quaint little suburban houses. 254 00:14:53,094 --> 00:14:55,820 In the late '90s, I remember telling myself, 255 00:14:55,844 --> 00:14:58,100 "It's OK. It's Ron Jeremy. 256 00:14:58,124 --> 00:15:00,460 "He is this megastar, 257 00:15:00,484 --> 00:15:02,820 "and if I'm going to be in a scene with him, hey..." 258 00:15:02,844 --> 00:15:06,620 I am in a maid's outfit and cleaning the toilet. That's right. 259 00:15:06,644 --> 00:15:09,740 And he comes in and he's acting like he's going to the bathroom. 260 00:15:09,764 --> 00:15:11,790 Oh, perfect. 261 00:15:11,814 --> 00:15:15,620 And Ron is in this grey bathrobe. 262 00:15:15,644 --> 00:15:18,540 And if you know Ron, that's kind of how Ron is. 263 00:15:18,564 --> 00:15:20,429 He's in a bathrobe on set 264 00:15:20,453 --> 00:15:23,700 or he's in sweats and a T-shirt with, like, Croce. 265 00:15:23,724 --> 00:15:26,030 And he was really nice and he was really sweet 266 00:15:26,054 --> 00:15:28,100 and he was probably cracking jokes. 267 00:15:28,124 --> 00:15:31,670 After that first experience, we stayed friends. 268 00:15:31,694 --> 00:15:35,059 My personal favourite working with Ron 269 00:15:35,083 --> 00:15:38,724 would have been our Not The Bradys XXX series. 270 00:15:54,894 --> 00:15:58,150 It was a full—blown parody of The Brady Bunch TV show, 271 00:15:58,174 --> 00:16:00,429 and Ron was the butcher. 272 00:16:00,453 --> 00:16:02,059 Got some beef for Alice. 273 00:16:02,083 --> 00:16:04,620 Where's Alice? Erm, she's in the kitchen. 274 00:16:04,644 --> 00:16:09,030 But while we were filming Not The Bradys XXX, 275 00:16:09,054 --> 00:16:12,420 there was what you would typically call a green room. 276 00:16:12,444 --> 00:16:14,750 I was in there. 277 00:16:14,774 --> 00:16:18,774 Ron was on the couch probably sitting in his bathrobe. 278 00:16:20,533 --> 00:16:22,230 There was a young woman, 279 00:16:22,254 --> 00:16:24,950 and Ron's there, and he's sitting next to her. 280 00:16:24,974 --> 00:16:26,870 There's probably a pillow's worth of space 281 00:16:26,894 --> 00:16:28,614 between the two of them, and she's asleep. 282 00:16:32,174 --> 00:16:35,309 And I look up, and there's Ron, 283 00:16:35,333 --> 00:16:40,309 and he's reaching over, picking up her dress 284 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:45,750 and trying to get a look under it, as if he is going to help himself. 285 00:16:45,774 --> 00:16:50,150 He lifts it up. He looks. He looks like he's going to do a bit more. 286 00:16:50,174 --> 00:16:52,790 I got up and I walked right over and I shook her awake. 287 00:16:52,814 --> 00:16:54,790 I told her, "Hey, honey, let's go inside." 288 00:16:54,814 --> 00:16:56,540 And then I told her what had happened 289 00:16:56,564 --> 00:16:59,179 and she shrugged it off, as, you know, we usually do, 290 00:16:59,203 --> 00:17:02,110 but it infuriated me. And at this point, 291 00:17:02,134 --> 00:17:05,614 you're really starting to see he is being an absolute creep. 292 00:17:11,134 --> 00:17:15,470 I hired him for my very first movie that I ever shot, 293 00:17:15,494 --> 00:17:17,150 and he played the Penguin. 294 00:17:17,174 --> 00:17:20,820 Well, he looks like a penguin — An overgrown penguin... 295 00:17:20,844 --> 00:17:22,820 I mean, literally a walrus, 296 00:17:22,844 --> 00:17:25,389 which is close to the penguin family. 297 00:17:25,413 --> 00:17:27,694 I mean, I think they're, like, cousins. 298 00:17:28,854 --> 00:17:30,620 My name is Adam Glasser, 299 00:17:30,644 --> 00:17:32,670 also known as Seymore Butts, 300 00:17:32,694 --> 00:17:36,974 and I was a director of adult films. 301 00:17:39,494 --> 00:17:40,830 If we had a break, 302 00:17:40,854 --> 00:17:44,750 Ron would be using every minute of his free time 303 00:17:44,774 --> 00:17:51,389 to be pursuing the next vagina, or meal — one or the other... 304 00:17:51,413 --> 00:17:53,110 Because his passion for food 305 00:17:53,134 --> 00:17:56,854 was almost as great as his passion for women. 306 00:17:58,134 --> 00:18:01,444 Those were the two main things — Food and pussy. 307 00:18:02,494 --> 00:18:07,259 He was just so singularly focused on getting laid. 308 00:18:07,283 --> 00:18:10,700 He was very satisfied with being called up, saying, 309 00:18:10,724 --> 00:18:12,030 "You're going to be here. 310 00:18:12,054 --> 00:18:14,500 "You're going to stick your penis in a vagina at 2pm. 311 00:18:14,524 --> 00:18:17,509 "We're going to pay you X amount of dollars, 312 00:18:17,533 --> 00:18:19,804 "and then, you know, you're going to go leave." 313 00:18:23,854 --> 00:18:26,139 Everyone wanted to be Ron's friend 314 00:18:26,163 --> 00:18:28,590 because he could definitely open doors. 315 00:18:28,614 --> 00:18:30,189 And not only open doors... 316 00:18:30,213 --> 00:18:32,550 He's walking you right to the front of the lot. 317 00:18:32,574 --> 00:18:38,139 Ron had asked me to be his red-carpet chaperone. 318 00:18:38,163 --> 00:18:41,830 It was a music party. It was a really big deal. 319 00:18:41,854 --> 00:18:44,189 It's all mainstream people, so a lot of 320 00:18:44,213 --> 00:18:47,851 music industry executives, celebrities. 321 00:18:48,977 --> 00:18:50,883 We're all just talking, 322 00:18:50,907 --> 00:18:54,473 and out of nowhere — Out of nowhere... 323 00:18:54,497 --> 00:18:59,753 I feel this hand go right up the back of my dress, 324 00:18:59,777 --> 00:19:03,643 right into my vagina cos I'm not wearing underwear. 325 00:19:03,667 --> 00:19:08,162 I screamed. I turned to my right. There's Ron. 326 00:19:08,186 --> 00:19:11,563 And instantly I am angry, 327 00:19:11,587 --> 00:19:15,923 but I'm so grossed out because, you know, 328 00:19:15,947 --> 00:19:18,242 my vagina is very special to me 329 00:19:18,266 --> 00:19:22,753 and this is my working tool, in that way, for porn. 330 00:19:22,777 --> 00:19:26,723 And his reaction is so typical Ron, 331 00:19:26,747 --> 00:19:29,473 like, "Whoa! What did I do? What did I do? 332 00:19:29,497 --> 00:19:34,112 "Oh, my bad. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh! Oh!" And I'm embarrassed. 333 00:19:34,136 --> 00:19:39,473 Ron just... just did it because he was so used to just doing it, 334 00:19:39,497 --> 00:19:43,777 and my reaction... 335 00:19:44,667 --> 00:19:46,563 was pure anger. 336 00:19:46,587 --> 00:19:51,282 I knew what he did was wrong to me, and I knew I was not OK with it, 337 00:19:51,306 --> 00:19:54,136 but was I going to make a big fuss out of it? No. 338 00:19:55,777 --> 00:19:58,083 The night just continued. 339 00:19:58,107 --> 00:20:00,443 We all absolutely knew that he was a groper 340 00:20:00,467 --> 00:20:02,963 and that he touched women and that he would do things 341 00:20:02,987 --> 00:20:04,923 that would make people uncomfortable. 342 00:20:04,947 --> 00:20:09,803 So, he found comfort in his behaviour 343 00:20:09,827 --> 00:20:11,603 because nobody stopped him. 344 00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:15,963 I was so conditioned to think that something like that was normal, 345 00:20:15,987 --> 00:20:17,963 so I remained friends with him. 346 00:20:17,987 --> 00:20:19,673 Yeah, Ron was a groper. 347 00:20:19,697 --> 00:20:21,362 If I'm able to bet, 348 00:20:21,386 --> 00:20:24,112 "Is Ron Jeremy going to be groping anybody tonight? 349 00:20:24,136 --> 00:20:26,467 I'm laying my money on, "Yes, he's groping." 350 00:20:28,497 --> 00:20:30,136 Ron, be nice! 351 00:20:34,217 --> 00:20:36,963 In my movies, he was a groper. He was supposed to be a groper. 352 00:20:36,987 --> 00:20:39,553 It's not a secret. And here's the other thing... 353 00:20:39,577 --> 00:20:41,963 In that same room that he's groping, 354 00:20:41,987 --> 00:20:47,553 there's a lot of other groping going on — girls groping girls, 355 00:20:47,577 --> 00:20:49,833 guys groping girls. 356 00:20:49,857 --> 00:20:52,553 Girls groping GUYS- 357 00:20:52,577 --> 00:20:55,803 So, the lines are just so blurred in this industry. 358 00:20:55,827 --> 00:20:59,443 But, obviously, I'm not talking about sticking my fingers 359 00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:01,193 in somebody's pussy or any... 360 00:21:01,217 --> 00:21:03,577 or something like that. That's a different story. 361 00:21:04,707 --> 00:21:07,723 There's no way Ron didn't know the difference, 362 00:21:07,747 --> 00:21:10,032 whether the lines were blurred or not. 363 00:21:10,056 --> 00:21:11,833 Fingers up the pussy, 364 00:21:11,857 --> 00:21:15,523 cocks in asses, in vaginas... 365 00:21:15,547 --> 00:21:17,827 There's no blurred lines there. 366 00:21:19,136 --> 00:21:20,523 It's wrong. 367 00:21:20,547 --> 00:21:22,833 Once you reach into that cookie jar 368 00:21:22,857 --> 00:21:26,393 and you keep taking cookies and no-one stops you, 369 00:21:26,417 --> 00:21:28,803 you're going to eat them all until they're gone, 370 00:21:28,827 --> 00:21:31,162 and then you're going to move on to something else. 371 00:21:31,186 --> 00:21:35,523 And with Ron, it just progressed worse and worse 372 00:21:35,547 --> 00:21:37,777 because he felt entitled. 373 00:21:44,986 --> 00:21:47,523 You have good sound? Yeah, give me a... 374 00:21:47,547 --> 00:21:49,203 I'll give you a burp, too. 375 00:21:49,227 --> 00:21:50,907 Say your line. 376 00:21:52,066 --> 00:21:55,147 Say, "It's Ron, bitch." It's Ron, bitch. OK. 377 00:21:56,186 --> 00:21:57,347 Yeah, action. 378 00:21:58,427 --> 00:22:00,042 So, there's a joke in porn. 379 00:22:00,066 --> 00:22:02,403 There's a few things you shouldn't do... 380 00:22:02,427 --> 00:22:05,787 Animals, underage, and another one being Ron Jeremy. 381 00:22:14,186 --> 00:22:17,427 I'm Lianne Young, and I'm a counsellor... 382 00:22:18,587 --> 00:22:20,603 and I was a porn star. 383 00:22:20,627 --> 00:22:23,162 I grew up in a small town called Keynsham, 384 00:22:23,186 --> 00:22:25,483 which is in between Bristol and Bath. 385 00:22:25,507 --> 00:22:26,712 I was just a regular girl, 386 00:22:26,736 --> 00:22:29,092 a single mum from a council estate, 387 00:22:29,116 --> 00:22:30,763 bringing up two children 388 00:22:30,787 --> 00:22:34,453 who wanted and had ambitions in life. 389 00:22:34,477 --> 00:22:38,883 Growing up from being a single parent 390 00:22:38,907 --> 00:22:43,273 to being a porn star was actually not that hard a journey. 391 00:22:43,297 --> 00:22:44,922 I decided to break America 392 00:22:44,946 --> 00:22:47,683 because if you're going to be a star, you go to America. 393 00:22:47,707 --> 00:22:51,323 Hiya. Hello. How are you? I'm very well. 394 00:22:51,347 --> 00:22:52,883 You look very well. Thank you. 395 00:22:52,907 --> 00:22:54,523 And where are you from? 396 00:22:54,547 --> 00:22:56,813 I'm from England, UK. 397 00:22:56,837 --> 00:22:58,547 Look. Let me see. 398 00:22:59,707 --> 00:23:00,986 Oh! 399 00:23:03,736 --> 00:23:06,283 England rules! 400 00:23:06,307 --> 00:23:07,962 My porn alter ego 401 00:23:07,986 --> 00:23:10,353 is definitely Billie Britt. 402 00:23:10,377 --> 00:23:12,813 Hi baby. 403 00:23:12,837 --> 00:23:15,172 My name's Billie and I'm from England. 404 00:23:15,196 --> 00:23:17,453 The Americans used to call me Cheeky 405 00:23:17,477 --> 00:23:18,922 because I did do a movie 406 00:23:18,946 --> 00:23:20,712 where they interviewed my bottom. 407 00:23:20,736 --> 00:23:23,323 What part of England are you from? I'm from Bristol. 408 00:23:23,347 --> 00:23:26,353 Bristol? Mm-hm. What is Bristol famous for? 409 00:23:26,377 --> 00:23:30,763 Me. All right! The talking arse. The talking ass! 410 00:23:30,787 --> 00:23:33,243 You laugh about it even today, cos some people do say, you know, 411 00:23:33,267 --> 00:23:34,712 "How did you crack America?" 412 00:23:34,736 --> 00:23:37,557 I said, "I slept my way to the top," because I did. 413 00:23:38,587 --> 00:23:40,042 When I was off that set, 414 00:23:40,066 --> 00:23:42,563 it's almost like I left that character behind, 415 00:23:42,587 --> 00:23:44,962 and then I was back to, like, Lianne the mum. 416 00:23:44,986 --> 00:23:47,866 "What have I got to do for the kids? What's for dinner tonight?" 417 00:23:49,267 --> 00:23:52,123 I knew that I would never do a scene with Ron Jeremy. 418 00:23:52,147 --> 00:23:53,763 There's just no way! 419 00:23:53,787 --> 00:23:55,643 I was like, "The man's grotesque." 420 00:23:55,667 --> 00:23:57,922 I didn't want to fuck Ron. 421 00:23:57,946 --> 00:23:59,603 To me, he was just... 422 00:23:59,627 --> 00:24:01,683 He was old and he was hairy 423 00:24:01,707 --> 00:24:04,627 and he was smelly and he thought he was funny. 424 00:24:10,066 --> 00:24:12,403 December of 1983 425 00:24:12,427 --> 00:24:14,403 is when I made my first film with Ron. 426 00:24:14,427 --> 00:24:16,763 We had a quarter—of—a—million—dollar budget. 427 00:24:16,787 --> 00:24:20,763 They flew the entire cast and crew over 428 00:24:20,787 --> 00:24:23,483 from California to Hawaii. 429 00:24:23,507 --> 00:24:27,123 Hey! 430 00:24:27,147 --> 00:24:28,736 Tammy! 431 00:24:31,707 --> 00:24:33,763 Imagine being 20 years... 432 00:24:33,787 --> 00:24:35,563 Well, I was 20 when I started the film, 433 00:24:35,587 --> 00:24:37,203 21 during the filming, 434 00:24:37,227 --> 00:24:39,557 and all of a sudden, I'm in paradise. 435 00:24:40,587 --> 00:24:43,986 Hello, I'm Alma. Hi, I'm Dan. Nice to meet you. 436 00:24:45,196 --> 00:24:47,722 Oh, there's a butterfly. I must catch it. 437 00:24:47,746 --> 00:24:51,042 I'd known Ron for a little bit, 438 00:24:51,066 --> 00:24:54,042 but we weren't best friends, by any means. 439 00:24:54,066 --> 00:24:57,433 Alma's class, but watch out when she gets hot. 440 00:24:57,457 --> 00:25:00,563 And how do you know? She's like my Auntie Margaret. 441 00:25:00,587 --> 00:25:03,533 I used to listen in at the bedroom door. It's wild. 442 00:25:03,557 --> 00:25:06,996 Man, I'd give anything to see you fuck a woman like that. 443 00:25:08,347 --> 00:25:10,742 Jerry Butler and I were definitely having 444 00:25:10,766 --> 00:25:14,023 an off—screen romance. 445 00:25:14,047 --> 00:25:16,886 I'd fallen in love immediately with my leading man. 446 00:25:18,687 --> 00:25:21,297 Do you want to kiss me? Yeah. 447 00:25:23,766 --> 00:25:27,303 He asked me to marry him, and he gave me this little... 448 00:25:27,327 --> 00:25:30,633 My engagement ring was a little gold hand 449 00:25:30,657 --> 00:25:33,023 with a ruby in it that you put on a little necklace. 450 00:25:33,047 --> 00:25:34,407 That was my engagement ring. 451 00:25:39,086 --> 00:25:42,103 There was a particular day — It was actually my 21st birthday... 452 00:25:42,127 --> 00:25:45,223 And Jerry and I were on the beach and we were going at it. 453 00:25:45,247 --> 00:25:47,742 And we're having a good time and the waves are crashing 454 00:25:47,766 --> 00:25:49,713 and it's like a movie. 455 00:25:49,737 --> 00:25:51,423 It's romantic and it's wonderful. 456 00:25:51,447 --> 00:25:54,942 And then I hear somebody say, "Hey, can I join in?" 457 00:25:54,966 --> 00:25:58,143 And I look up and Ron Jeremy is standing up above on the cliff. 458 00:25:58,167 --> 00:26:01,503 And Jerry and I both, at the same time, said, "No!" 459 00:26:01,527 --> 00:26:03,822 Just a simple no. And Ron laughed. 460 00:26:03,846 --> 00:26:07,657 And so Jerry and I finished up and we watched the sunset. 461 00:26:09,487 --> 00:26:13,822 I'm going back to my room and I went upstairs. 462 00:26:13,846 --> 00:26:15,167 I went into the bathroom... 463 00:26:19,197 --> 00:26:23,173 and I walked to the sink 464 00:26:23,197 --> 00:26:26,273 and I felt somebody come up behind me, 465 00:26:26,297 --> 00:26:28,183 and it was Ronnie. 466 00:26:28,207 --> 00:26:29,766 He had hidden behind the door. 467 00:26:31,487 --> 00:26:32,942 He grabbed my hands 468 00:26:32,966 --> 00:26:35,303 and he held them down on the sides of the sink 469 00:26:35,327 --> 00:26:38,633 and pulled down my bathing suit and just started fucking me... 470 00:26:38,657 --> 00:26:40,992 Just fucking me right there, raping me. 471 00:26:41,016 --> 00:26:43,303 I'm screaming, "No." I'm hitting him. 472 00:26:43,327 --> 00:26:44,992 I'm telling him to get off of me. 473 00:26:45,016 --> 00:26:47,383 And the more I say no, the more that he fucks me, 474 00:26:47,407 --> 00:26:50,463 the harder he fucks me, and the more he's into it. 475 00:26:50,487 --> 00:26:52,846 He's pulling my hair. He's slapping my ass. 476 00:26:54,096 --> 00:26:58,893 I don't think he said anything, except, "Shut up," and, you know, 477 00:26:58,917 --> 00:27:01,223 covered my mouth and held me down and... 478 00:27:01,247 --> 00:27:03,023 I just stood there and I cried, 479 00:27:03,047 --> 00:27:07,793 and, you know, at a certain point, you just let it happen. 480 00:27:07,817 --> 00:27:10,862 You just... You just resign yourself 481 00:27:10,886 --> 00:27:13,167 to the fact that you're getting raped. 482 00:27:14,886 --> 00:27:16,207 I don't remember... 483 00:27:17,297 --> 00:27:19,583 it being over. 484 00:27:19,607 --> 00:27:24,096 I don't remember when he left, how he walked away. 485 00:27:25,327 --> 00:27:30,183 I remember that he had a white terry-cloth towel 486 00:27:30,207 --> 00:27:32,663 that he wiped his dick off with. 487 00:27:32,687 --> 00:27:35,503 I just remember just crying and looking at myself in the mirror. 488 00:27:35,527 --> 00:27:37,766 It was my 21st birthday. 489 00:27:39,846 --> 00:27:42,713 I wish I would have bit and screamed louder 490 00:27:42,737 --> 00:27:44,433 and punched and fought, 491 00:27:44,457 --> 00:27:47,903 but I was scared and I was young and I didn't know any better. 492 00:27:47,927 --> 00:27:50,513 I thought, not that I deserved it, 493 00:27:50,537 --> 00:27:54,303 but that I had put myself in a porn movie. 494 00:27:54,327 --> 00:27:57,992 You know, I'm there to fuck, so how can I possibly be raped? 495 00:27:58,016 --> 00:28:01,407 I didn't even tell my best friend. I didn't tell anybody. 496 00:28:06,687 --> 00:28:09,903 I've been asked this question. 497 00:28:09,927 --> 00:28:12,663 "How do you rape a porn star?" 498 00:28:12,687 --> 00:28:17,023 Is something that so many people say when we are victimised. 499 00:28:17,047 --> 00:28:19,742 And it's like assuming 500 00:28:19,766 --> 00:28:23,303 we're always supposed to be this fantasy that you have 501 00:28:23,327 --> 00:28:28,903 that you yourself have created of us. 502 00:28:28,927 --> 00:28:32,663 Those lines are so confusing for people, 503 00:28:32,687 --> 00:28:36,233 but the reality is 504 00:28:36,257 --> 00:28:40,583 you rape a porn star the same way you would rape anyone else... 505 00:28:40,607 --> 00:28:42,207 When you violate our consent. 506 00:28:48,127 --> 00:28:50,903 The clays in Hawaii were extremely long, 507 00:28:50,927 --> 00:28:55,303 but I was contractually obligated to do one more sex scene with a guy. 508 00:28:55,327 --> 00:28:58,047 The only man on the island is Ron Jeremy. 509 00:28:59,127 --> 00:29:01,742 Our agent at the time sat down and she said, 510 00:29:01,766 --> 00:29:04,072 you know, "You owe us another scene." 511 00:29:04,096 --> 00:29:05,593 I'm like, "Ron's on my no list." 512 00:29:05,617 --> 00:29:07,896 She's like, "You signed the contract." 513 00:29:08,817 --> 00:29:10,513 So, I had sex with Ron, 514 00:29:10,537 --> 00:29:13,327 the day after he raped me, on camera. 515 00:29:17,927 --> 00:29:20,233 We're on the beach, 516 00:29:20,257 --> 00:29:22,663 and he's behind me, thank God, again. 517 00:29:22,687 --> 00:29:25,207 At least I don't have to look at his fat fucking face. 518 00:29:26,617 --> 00:29:28,983 And Ron always had this thing... 519 00:29:29,007 --> 00:29:31,687 He always said, "Just the tip. Just the tip. Just the tip." 520 00:29:33,207 --> 00:29:36,702 And he's behind me — this is the day after he's fucking raped me... 521 00:29:36,726 --> 00:29:38,072 And he goes, "Just the tip," 522 00:29:38,096 --> 00:29:40,433 and I just turned around and fucking decked him. 523 00:29:40,457 --> 00:29:43,976 No-one asked. No-one said a word. And then we just kept rolling. 524 00:29:56,817 --> 00:30:00,103 I don't know how the rape affected Ginger. 525 00:30:00,127 --> 00:30:02,713 I met her a year after it happened, 526 00:30:02,737 --> 00:30:05,702 and I saw no signs of it. 527 00:30:05,726 --> 00:30:07,543 She never let on. 528 00:30:07,567 --> 00:30:12,313 I never, for a second, in the '80s, thought Ron was a predator. 529 00:30:12,337 --> 00:30:15,463 Pervert? Yes. Predator? No. 530 00:30:15,487 --> 00:30:18,742 Why did I think Ron was a pervert? Cos he was. 531 00:30:18,766 --> 00:30:23,872 I was talking to my fellow porn stars, 532 00:30:23,896 --> 00:30:26,153 and they all had my thought. 533 00:30:26,177 --> 00:30:28,153 With the exception of Ginger Lynn, 534 00:30:28,177 --> 00:30:30,673 we were never accosted, we were never raped, 535 00:30:30,697 --> 00:30:33,793 we were never pushed to our limit. 536 00:30:33,817 --> 00:30:36,063 He's a pervert, but rape? 537 00:30:36,087 --> 00:30:37,673 It was so out of character, 538 00:30:37,697 --> 00:30:40,543 and yet I've never known Ginger Lynn to be a liar. 539 00:30:40,567 --> 00:30:46,233 Choosing sides in this situation with Ginger and Ron 540 00:30:46,257 --> 00:30:49,183 definitely split the industry. 541 00:30:49,207 --> 00:30:51,903 I think it made it way harder on her. 542 00:30:51,927 --> 00:30:53,543 People will choose sides. 543 00:30:53,567 --> 00:30:55,383 They are always going to choose sides, 544 00:30:55,407 --> 00:30:58,543 whether they're going to believe the accuser 545 00:30:58,567 --> 00:31:01,343 or believe, you know, your suspect. 546 00:31:01,367 --> 00:31:03,233 What I saw, in the old clays, 547 00:31:03,257 --> 00:31:05,872 if a girl didn't like Ron Jeremy, it was very simple. 548 00:31:05,896 --> 00:31:09,263 "Get the fuck away from me." I saw tons of porn girls do that. 549 00:31:09,287 --> 00:31:13,903 Or, "I won't work with Ron Jeremy cos he stinks. He's disgusting." 550 00:31:13,927 --> 00:31:16,313 But he never forced himself on them. 551 00:31:16,337 --> 00:31:18,313 Did I ever see him assault anybody? No. 552 00:31:18,337 --> 00:31:23,153 Did I ever see anybody say, "Hey, he assaulted me"? No. 553 00:31:23,177 --> 00:31:25,983 Did I ever see anybody slap him in the face? No. 554 00:31:26,007 --> 00:31:29,063 I was with him so many times in these kind of situations. 555 00:31:29,087 --> 00:31:31,423 He's pulled his dick out at me so many times, 556 00:31:31,447 --> 00:31:33,793 and I'm like, "Ron, if you don't put it back in your damn pants, 557 00:31:33,817 --> 00:31:36,153 "I'm going to pull it off and shove it up your throat." 558 00:31:36,177 --> 00:31:38,822 You know? "OK, OK, fine, fine, fine." 559 00:31:38,846 --> 00:31:42,313 Just, "Look at this," you know? Cos he's funny. That's who he was. 560 00:31:42,337 --> 00:31:44,343 He just did that. He did those things. 561 00:31:44,367 --> 00:31:48,702 And if you would have told him that you were not OK with that, 562 00:31:48,726 --> 00:31:50,976 he would have understood. 563 00:31:55,646 --> 00:31:58,752 I'm Kianna Bradley. I'm a former adult film star. 564 00:31:58,776 --> 00:32:02,593 I have been in probably over 300 films. 565 00:32:02,617 --> 00:32:05,033 I love Ron. I love Ron Jeremy. 566 00:32:05,057 --> 00:32:07,673 I do. He has been a very dear friend of mine. 567 00:32:07,697 --> 00:32:10,463 From the first time I've come into the industry 568 00:32:10,487 --> 00:32:13,976 until whenever we are gone, he will always be my friend. 569 00:32:15,417 --> 00:32:19,726 Ron is a very kind person. He would do anything in the world for you. 570 00:32:20,807 --> 00:32:22,153 Ron's a good guy. 571 00:32:22,177 --> 00:32:25,183 He's not one of the shitty ones, 572 00:32:25,207 --> 00:32:27,976 cos there's a lot of them in our industry. 573 00:32:31,976 --> 00:32:34,513 As far as I know, I was the very first woman 574 00:32:34,537 --> 00:32:38,057 in the industry to be raped by Ron in 1983. 575 00:32:39,257 --> 00:32:41,033 I wish I would have gone to the police 576 00:32:41,057 --> 00:32:46,167 so that other women wouldn't have been damaged and abused by him. 577 00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:49,872 Back in the '80s, rape wasn't something that... 578 00:32:49,896 --> 00:32:51,903 No, everybody was there to fuck. 579 00:32:51,927 --> 00:32:54,393 Why would anybody rape anybody or, you know...? 580 00:32:54,417 --> 00:32:57,257 It wasn't something that was ever really talked about. 581 00:33:01,287 --> 00:33:04,983 I did confront Ron, not on my own accord. 582 00:33:05,007 --> 00:33:08,872 A director sets me up with a meeting with Ron. She says, "I'll be there." 583 00:33:08,896 --> 00:33:13,393 And Ron is notoriously known for never spending a dime, 584 00:33:13,417 --> 00:33:16,697 a penny on anything, and he brought me flowers. 585 00:33:18,257 --> 00:33:20,543 I told her what happened, 586 00:33:20,567 --> 00:33:23,343 and Ron sits there and he thinks about it for a second 587 00:33:23,367 --> 00:33:26,113 and he says, "That's, you know, what happened, 588 00:33:26,137 --> 00:33:29,702 "but I thought you wanted it. I thought you wanted me." 589 00:33:29,726 --> 00:33:31,217 And he believed it. 590 00:33:35,217 --> 00:33:39,553 There was another time Ron sat down at the piano 591 00:33:39,577 --> 00:33:41,393 and he played me a song. 592 00:33:41,417 --> 00:33:46,473 And he wasn't trying to be big. He wasn't trying to impress anybody. 593 00:33:46,497 --> 00:33:49,983 He just played the song, and it was beautiful, 594 00:33:50,007 --> 00:33:53,343 and it was the only honest moment 595 00:33:53,367 --> 00:33:56,343 that I've ever seen in such an ugly person. 596 00:33:56,367 --> 00:33:58,393 I shoved the rape down, just... 597 00:33:58,417 --> 00:34:02,033 I shoved it way down — deep down — For years before I came out. 598 00:34:02,057 --> 00:34:04,553 And I did an interview in a magazine 599 00:34:04,577 --> 00:34:07,673 where I talked about the rape, 600 00:34:07,697 --> 00:34:13,622 and I had the worst backlash ever from people in the industry, 601 00:34:13,646 --> 00:34:15,313 people calling me a liar, 602 00:34:15,337 --> 00:34:17,863 people saying, "You're just trying to get famous." 603 00:34:17,887 --> 00:34:20,976 Yeah, that's what I'm going to do — I'm going to get raped to be famous! 604 00:34:22,697 --> 00:34:27,063 There was no caring, no compassion, no understanding. 605 00:34:27,087 --> 00:34:31,063 About 15 years ago, someone put up a website on the internet, 606 00:34:31,087 --> 00:34:34,423 and you could vote for The Hedgehog or Ginger Lynn... 607 00:34:34,447 --> 00:34:35,952 Who was telling the truth? 608 00:34:35,976 --> 00:34:38,343 It was a game to people. 609 00:34:38,367 --> 00:34:41,553 They fucking voted, and it was just... 610 00:34:41,577 --> 00:34:44,033 It was horrible. It was horrible. I had people... 611 00:34:44,057 --> 00:34:46,887 I was defending myself for being raped. 612 00:34:51,856 --> 00:34:54,167 Fuck! Who's there? 613 00:34:56,617 --> 00:34:59,553 OK. Get me the fuck out of here! 614 00:34:59,577 --> 00:35:03,273 Saw is a parody porn film. 615 00:35:03,297 --> 00:35:06,913 The movie opens up with a male performer. 616 00:35:06,937 --> 00:35:09,863 Hello, Jason. You've been placed here 617 00:35:09,887 --> 00:35:12,343 because of the way that you've been treating women. 618 00:35:12,367 --> 00:35:16,137 You see, Ron Jeremy is the chief of police. 619 00:35:17,337 --> 00:35:22,393 So, what is the story about this screwball case? 620 00:35:22,417 --> 00:35:24,223 All we do know is that 621 00:35:24,247 --> 00:35:27,423 all of the victims were in the adult film industry. 622 00:35:27,447 --> 00:35:31,167 So, what do you suggest, Chief? I suggest that one of you... 623 00:35:32,497 --> 00:35:33,783 goes undercover. 624 00:35:33,807 --> 00:35:35,832 Get it? Undercover. 625 00:35:35,856 --> 00:35:43,143 And then the final scene, you see Ron is unmasked as the abuser. 626 00:35:43,167 --> 00:35:45,447 Come out of the light slowly. 627 00:35:49,526 --> 00:35:53,143 Well, I see you've discovered my little secret. 628 00:35:53,167 --> 00:35:55,993 At that point, we all already know who Ron is, 629 00:35:56,017 --> 00:35:58,033 what kind of person he is. 630 00:35:58,057 --> 00:36:01,937 Here we are in this situation where, you know... 631 00:36:02,976 --> 00:36:05,632 life is imitating art. 632 00:36:05,656 --> 00:36:07,993 The other thing about this film 633 00:36:08,017 --> 00:36:10,377 is that Ginger performs with Ron. 634 00:36:14,247 --> 00:36:16,502 This is that movie? 635 00:36:16,526 --> 00:36:18,553 Oh! 636 00:36:18,577 --> 00:36:22,327 OK. So, to people like me, that movie is infamous. 637 00:36:24,807 --> 00:36:27,143 We all have talked about this movie... 638 00:36:27,167 --> 00:36:30,273 How crazy it was that, out of nowhere, 639 00:36:30,297 --> 00:36:32,776 Ginger and Ron worked together. 640 00:36:34,697 --> 00:36:39,143 The last time I saw Ron was on the set of a movie called Saw, 641 00:36:39,167 --> 00:36:43,553 and I decided to do the film trying to find closure, 642 00:36:43,577 --> 00:36:46,303 and I just got really shitfaced drunk 643 00:36:46,327 --> 00:36:47,752 and I don't remember anything. 644 00:36:47,776 --> 00:36:50,913 I got no closure. I just did a dumb thing. 645 00:36:50,937 --> 00:36:55,323 The actresses that have went on to work with him 646 00:36:55,347 --> 00:36:58,502 after these things happened to them... 647 00:36:58,526 --> 00:37:00,863 Why did you continue to work with him? 648 00:37:00,887 --> 00:37:05,433 Why didn't you say something then? 649 00:37:05,457 --> 00:37:06,783 We have a voice, 650 00:37:06,807 --> 00:37:10,223 and some of these actresses have pretty big names. 651 00:37:10,247 --> 00:37:12,783 Is your point of view going to be popular? 652 00:37:12,807 --> 00:37:14,193 Probably not. 653 00:37:14,217 --> 00:37:17,033 I really don't care if I get backlash or not from it. 654 00:37:17,057 --> 00:37:18,223 I really don't. 655 00:37:18,247 --> 00:37:21,752 I have been a victim of rape and violence, 656 00:37:21,776 --> 00:37:26,553 but I'm not friends with them for 20—something years afterwards, 657 00:37:26,577 --> 00:37:29,377 and I damn sure won't work with them. 658 00:37:33,017 --> 00:37:38,433 The fact that Ginger performed with Ron multiple times 659 00:37:38,457 --> 00:37:42,832 would definitely not bode well with a jury. 660 00:37:42,856 --> 00:37:45,143 But Ginger doesn't have to worry about that 661 00:37:45,167 --> 00:37:46,943 because she's not on trial. 662 00:37:46,967 --> 00:37:49,832 It's very hard to cry assault or rape 663 00:37:49,856 --> 00:37:53,247 when having sex is your job. 664 00:37:56,297 --> 00:37:58,632 But I don't think the fact that 665 00:37:58,656 --> 00:38:01,752 Ginger Lynn performed with Ron Jeremy 666 00:38:01,776 --> 00:38:06,073 after the time of the alleged rape, 667 00:38:06,097 --> 00:38:08,153 I don't think that proves anything. 668 00:38:08,177 --> 00:38:12,023 Supporters of Ron point to the fact that 669 00:38:12,047 --> 00:38:16,913 maybe you have acted with him years after you were raped, 670 00:38:16,937 --> 00:38:20,193 and they will minimise what happened. 671 00:38:20,217 --> 00:38:22,113 That's not my problem. That's... 672 00:38:22,137 --> 00:38:26,592 The fact that people will minimise what happened to me, 673 00:38:26,616 --> 00:38:30,953 I they minimised Ron Jeremy raping me I 674 00:38:30,977 --> 00:38:33,623 because I had sex with him on film afterwards... 675 00:38:33,647 --> 00:38:35,183 The fact that I was raped, 676 00:38:35,207 --> 00:38:37,823 I'm still raped, even if I fucked him afterwards, 677 00:38:37,847 --> 00:38:42,183 and that's my poor decision, my poor judgment, my addiction, 678 00:38:42,207 --> 00:38:44,113 my problem, not yours. 679 00:38:44,137 --> 00:38:45,616 Stay out of my life. 680 00:38:51,417 --> 00:38:55,753 The last time I saw Ron was at my house. 681 00:38:55,777 --> 00:38:58,903 It was a Fourth of July barbecue, 682 00:38:58,927 --> 00:39:01,592 but I remember he was really pleading his case 683 00:39:01,616 --> 00:39:03,263 that he was innocent. 684 00:39:03,287 --> 00:39:06,193 I'll never forget, he had a picture of Ginger 685 00:39:06,217 --> 00:39:08,233 on the beach in Hawaii, like an 8x10. 686 00:39:08,257 --> 00:39:10,113 She was wearing, like, a red one-piece, 687 00:39:10,137 --> 00:39:13,873 looking over her shoulder, I'm assuming at him, smiling at him, 688 00:39:13,897 --> 00:39:15,672 before they had sex that day. 689 00:39:15,696 --> 00:39:19,472 I think he would show it to anybody that would listen 690 00:39:19,496 --> 00:39:22,472 just to get his side out there. 691 00:39:22,496 --> 00:39:24,153 "How could she say I raped her 692 00:39:24,177 --> 00:39:27,233 "if she worked with me several times after?" 693 00:39:27,257 --> 00:39:30,063 And I almost think that, in his brain, 694 00:39:30,087 --> 00:39:32,777 he thought he was innocent of everything. 695 00:39:40,977 --> 00:39:46,263 Ron was paid to be this person for so many years. 696 00:39:46,287 --> 00:39:49,033 Everywhere Ron went, he was... 697 00:39:49,057 --> 00:39:52,342 "Can you touch my girlfriend's boob? Can you touch her ass? 698 00:39:52,366 --> 00:39:54,113 "Let me see your cock." 699 00:39:54,137 --> 00:39:56,623 Those are the things that we paid him to do. 700 00:39:56,647 --> 00:39:58,953 Those are the things that we praised him to do, 701 00:39:58,977 --> 00:39:59,977 we awarded him. 702 00:40:01,217 --> 00:40:03,833 So many people were saying that 703 00:40:03,857 --> 00:40:05,833 they're not going to be around anyone 704 00:40:05,857 --> 00:40:11,057 that supports his kind of behaviour, but you supported it for years! 705 00:40:12,727 --> 00:40:17,802 I think he was made an example of within our industry, 706 00:40:17,826 --> 00:40:20,113 but what people are forgetting 707 00:40:20,137 --> 00:40:22,777 is that they're not the sex industry. 708 00:40:23,807 --> 00:40:27,193 They are not pornographic industry. 709 00:40:27,217 --> 00:40:30,422 That's who we are. We have sex. 710 00:40:30,446 --> 00:40:35,472 We fondle fans. We climb on top of them. 711 00:40:35,496 --> 00:40:38,033 We put our tongues in their throats. 712 00:40:38,057 --> 00:40:40,342 That's who we are. 713 00:40:40,366 --> 00:40:42,647 Like, we all did it. It wasn't just Ron. 714 00:40:43,616 --> 00:40:45,623 Ron's not aggressive. 715 00:40:45,647 --> 00:40:49,422 He would not want to hurt someone's feelings. 716 00:40:49,446 --> 00:40:52,193 He was an asshole, he was a prick sometimes, 717 00:40:52,217 --> 00:40:54,496 but he would not have wanted to hurt... 718 00:40:56,057 --> 00:40:59,366 any of us. You know, he wasn't that kind of person. 719 00:41:00,807 --> 00:41:05,753 I do not believe he's capable of rape whatsoever. I don't. 720 00:41:05,777 --> 00:41:08,857 I believe they targeted him. 721 00:41:18,737 --> 00:41:23,723 The first night that I met Ron, I was out with a former housemate 722 00:41:23,747 --> 00:41:27,313 to the Rainbow Rooms, and she just goes on over there 723 00:41:27,337 --> 00:41:29,313 and says, "Hey, Ron, meet Billie Britt." 724 00:41:29,337 --> 00:41:31,723 You know, "She's the porn queen of England." 725 00:41:31,747 --> 00:41:33,723 Ron was really welcoming. 726 00:41:33,747 --> 00:41:36,072 It's almost like meeting a friend after 20 years. 727 00:41:36,096 --> 00:41:39,433 "Hey, how are you doing?" You know, "How's America treating you?" 728 00:41:39,457 --> 00:41:41,926 He was actually quite a regular person. 729 00:41:45,897 --> 00:41:48,152 When I'd met Ron again, 730 00:41:48,176 --> 00:41:49,873 it was Halloween 2000. 731 00:41:49,897 --> 00:41:51,183 The adult industry as a whole, 732 00:41:51,207 --> 00:41:54,032 there were many charity events that everybody got dressed up for. 733 00:41:54,056 --> 00:41:56,056 This one was at the House Of Blues. 734 00:41:57,207 --> 00:42:00,152 It was like a live venue where bands played. 735 00:42:00,176 --> 00:42:02,952 Lots of industry people and lots of regular people. 736 00:42:02,976 --> 00:42:06,873 People talking amongst ourselves, just doing our thing. 737 00:42:06,897 --> 00:42:08,723 It was like a girls' night out. 738 00:42:08,747 --> 00:42:10,393 I wasn't in performer mode. 739 00:42:10,417 --> 00:42:13,082 I was in relaxed Lianne Young mode 740 00:42:13,106 --> 00:42:15,113 and I was out for a good night. 741 00:42:15,137 --> 00:42:20,593 I was there with my ex-husband, and Lianne was there. 742 00:42:20,617 --> 00:42:22,233 And at this point, I've known Lianne, 743 00:42:22,257 --> 00:42:24,593 you know, for quite some time and we're quite close, 744 00:42:24,617 --> 00:42:28,473 and I remember we are sitting at a table. 745 00:42:28,497 --> 00:42:30,793 I was drinking out of a bottle of beer 746 00:42:30,817 --> 00:42:32,193 and I'm watching a band, 747 00:42:32,217 --> 00:42:35,056 the girls are talking amongst themselves and... 748 00:42:36,287 --> 00:42:38,926 literally, you know... 749 00:42:40,926 --> 00:42:42,952 It happened from behind. 750 00:42:42,976 --> 00:42:46,926 I just remember just being pushed over the table, dropping my drink... 751 00:42:49,387 --> 00:42:51,667 and a penis being pushed inside of me. 752 00:42:55,417 --> 00:42:58,513 I manage to turn to the right-hand side 753 00:42:58,537 --> 00:43:00,263 to get myself back up 754 00:43:00,287 --> 00:43:02,082 and it was Ron behind me. 755 00:43:02,106 --> 00:43:04,553 And I smacked him round the face and said, 756 00:43:04,577 --> 00:43:06,952 "What the fucking hell do you think you're doing? 757 00:43:06,976 --> 00:43:08,753 "Get your fucking hands off me!" 758 00:43:08,777 --> 00:43:11,832 And he still had his penis out when I slapped him round the face. 759 00:43:11,856 --> 00:43:13,673 His dick is still hanging there. 760 00:43:13,697 --> 00:43:17,003 The man's just raped me, doesn't give a shit. 761 00:43:17,027 --> 00:43:21,337 After he'd finished dipping himself, he just wandered off into the crowd. 762 00:43:23,697 --> 00:43:26,513 When I close my eyes and I count the seconds, 763 00:43:26,537 --> 00:43:29,856 it's only four, five seconds. 764 00:43:34,186 --> 00:43:37,803 But that was a bloody long four, five seconds. 765 00:43:37,827 --> 00:43:40,952 And I was just there going to my friends, "What the fuck?" 766 00:43:40,976 --> 00:43:44,032 The people I told were like, "That's Ronnie. He does that. 767 00:43:44,056 --> 00:43:45,983 "He thinks he's just got a free—for—all. 768 00:43:46,007 --> 00:43:48,313 "He's got, like, this golden pass in porn." 769 00:43:48,337 --> 00:43:49,473 I was raped. 770 00:43:49,497 --> 00:43:52,233 You can't report it. You're a sex worker. 771 00:43:52,257 --> 00:43:54,803 You've just got to move on. You've just got to move on. 772 00:43:54,827 --> 00:43:56,313 "Do you want another drink?" 773 00:43:56,337 --> 00:43:59,673 I cannot even remember anybody going, "I'm sorry. 774 00:43:59,697 --> 00:44:01,367 "I'm sorry that happened to you." 775 00:44:03,106 --> 00:44:06,553 I saw what Ron did to Lianne. 776 00:44:06,577 --> 00:44:09,753 The force of him coming up behind her, 777 00:44:09,777 --> 00:44:13,233 we were all just kind of shocked at what just happened. 778 00:44:13,257 --> 00:44:15,497 But, you know, again... 779 00:44:16,697 --> 00:44:21,027 Ron is a bit of a pig and Ron does stuff like this. 780 00:44:22,137 --> 00:44:25,912 Nobody said, "Oh, that's rape," 781 00:44:25,936 --> 00:44:32,803 because we're so desensitised to the sexualness of our existence. 782 00:44:32,827 --> 00:44:36,803 I think the biggest thing that hindered the police 783 00:44:36,827 --> 00:44:39,162 from doing anything about any of the cases... 784 00:44:39,186 --> 00:44:41,523 Because none of us went to the police 785 00:44:41,547 --> 00:44:45,883 because, in our minds, they would laugh at us. 786 00:44:45,907 --> 00:44:48,353 Help! Now, wait a minute, Red. 787 00:44:48,377 --> 00:44:51,353 We are pushing it much too far right here. 788 00:44:51,377 --> 00:44:54,673 What's gotten into him? Please forgive me. I was just... 789 00:44:54,697 --> 00:44:57,162 I was overwhelmed by your feminine charm. 790 00:44:57,186 --> 00:45:00,313 Ron has a very, very jokey persona. 791 00:45:00,337 --> 00:45:03,723 When I see Ron playing his persona, you know, like in The Flintstones, 792 00:45:03,747 --> 00:45:05,976 it makes me absolutely sick. 793 00:45:07,217 --> 00:45:08,353 Ooh! 794 00:45:08,377 --> 00:45:10,753 You've only been sold one side of Ron. 795 00:45:10,777 --> 00:45:13,193 Ron's not going to show you his true colours 796 00:45:13,217 --> 00:45:15,137 unless you were a victim of Ron's. 797 00:45:16,137 --> 00:45:19,393 People hide behind characters, 798 00:45:19,417 --> 00:45:23,753 and the fact is, predators are so good at hiding, 799 00:45:23,777 --> 00:45:25,753 and Ron is one of them. 800 00:45:25,777 --> 00:45:27,017 The man's a rapist. 801 00:45:28,137 --> 00:45:29,353 I often do think, 802 00:45:29,377 --> 00:45:31,712 "Will Ron remember it?" and I don't think he will. 803 00:45:31,736 --> 00:45:34,082 I don't think Ron remembers half he's done, 804 00:45:34,106 --> 00:45:36,353 and I know that 805 00:45:36,377 --> 00:45:37,986 I'm not the only one. 806 00:45:53,056 --> 00:45:55,393 You're a fucking idiot! I tell you to, like... 807 00:45:55,417 --> 00:45:59,162 What, like you're two years old? I like to scream like one. 808 00:45:59,186 --> 00:46:01,883 He was a zombie. He could barely talk. 809 00:46:01,907 --> 00:46:04,193 This is an enormous case. 810 00:46:04,217 --> 00:46:06,523 It's more charges than Harvey Weinstein faced. 811 00:46:06,547 --> 00:46:08,393 I have to believe that 812 00:46:08,417 --> 00:46:10,912 people knew that he was as violent as he was 813 00:46:10,936 --> 00:46:13,273 because there are so many accounts of it. 814 00:46:13,297 --> 00:46:19,056 It's time to get Ron Jeremy charged with how he raped me 20 years ago.