1 00:00:12,345 --> 00:00:14,347 [SOOTHING MUSIC PLAYS] 2 00:00:22,731 --> 00:00:27,110 [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING] 3 00:00:33,616 --> 00:00:35,326 [PAULA] My name is Paula Pant, 4 00:00:35,410 --> 00:00:38,121 and I'm the founder of AffordAnything.com. 5 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:40,582 We are here to help people 6 00:00:40,665 --> 00:00:44,753 save, earn more, invest, retire. 7 00:00:44,836 --> 00:00:49,883 The way that we manage our money influences every aspect of our lives, 8 00:00:49,966 --> 00:00:53,678 and yet no one ever formally teaches it to us. 9 00:00:54,387 --> 00:00:57,891 Because of that, people are missing out on opportunities to make money. 10 00:00:59,642 --> 00:01:03,521 [ANNOUNCER] We have expert Ro$$ Mac coming to the stage. 11 00:01:04,939 --> 00:01:06,858 For me, it was always Black wealth matters. 12 00:01:07,776 --> 00:01:09,903 And the way I wanted to do that was through information 13 00:01:09,986 --> 00:01:11,613 and educating the community. 14 00:01:11,696 --> 00:01:15,742 {\an8}Welcome to this week's episode of Maconomics. I'm your host Ro$$ Mac. 15 00:01:16,326 --> 00:01:19,996 We are joined now by financial expert Tiffany Aliche 16 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,248 who is also a New York Times best-selling author 17 00:01:22,332 --> 00:01:24,876 of Get Good with Money. 18 00:01:25,376 --> 00:01:28,463 I'm almost like the preschool teacher of financial education. 19 00:01:28,546 --> 00:01:30,632 I really focus on the fundamentals. 20 00:01:31,508 --> 00:01:36,471 Budgeting, saving, credit, debt, and learning to earn. 21 00:01:37,055 --> 00:01:40,600 These are the first steps to what I call financial wholeness. 22 00:01:41,726 --> 00:01:43,770 [NEWSCASTER] He's now become {\an8}a personal finance guru, 23 00:01:43,853 --> 00:01:45,271 {\an8}and not because he made millions, 24 00:01:45,355 --> 00:01:48,399 {\an8}but because he cut back in some radical ways. 25 00:01:48,483 --> 00:01:51,569 On the Internet, my name is Mr. Money Mustache, 26 00:01:51,653 --> 00:01:54,531 and 15 years ago, I had a dream 27 00:01:54,614 --> 00:01:57,867 and was able to retire just before my 31st birthday. 28 00:01:57,951 --> 00:01:59,744 [AUDIENCE APPLAUDS] 29 00:01:59,828 --> 00:02:02,956 The thing about money is it really is not very complicated, 30 00:02:03,039 --> 00:02:05,959 but what can you use it for other than just buying more stuff? 31 00:02:06,042 --> 00:02:08,378 You can buy freedom with money, 32 00:02:08,461 --> 00:02:10,672 where you never have to worry about money again, 33 00:02:11,214 --> 00:02:13,466 but that's not what we're trained to do in this country. 34 00:02:13,550 --> 00:02:14,425 [ALARM BEEPING] 35 00:02:14,509 --> 00:02:17,929 ["BILLS" BY LUNCHMONEY LEWIS PLAYS] 36 00:02:20,932 --> 00:02:23,101 ♪ I got bills ♪ 37 00:02:23,184 --> 00:02:25,019 ♪ I gotta pay ♪ 38 00:02:25,103 --> 00:02:28,356 ♪ So I'ma gon' work, work Work every day ♪ 39 00:02:28,940 --> 00:02:30,775 ♪ I got mouths ♪ 40 00:02:30,859 --> 00:02:32,527 ♪ I gotta feed ♪ 41 00:02:32,610 --> 00:02:36,239 ♪ So I'ma gon' make sure everybody eats ♪ 42 00:02:37,615 --> 00:02:39,701 So everybody wants to get better at money, right? 43 00:02:39,784 --> 00:02:41,828 Maybe your budget is out of whack. 44 00:02:41,911 --> 00:02:45,123 Your debt is mounting. You don't know how to earn. 45 00:02:46,082 --> 00:02:50,753 This year, we're gonna try something strange and different and hopefully fun. 46 00:02:51,337 --> 00:02:54,257 {\an8}[TIFFANY] I'm going to gift one of you 47 00:02:54,340 --> 00:02:57,385 one year of personal financial coaching. 48 00:02:58,428 --> 00:03:02,265 You'll win a year of financial and investing coaching from yours truly. 49 00:03:02,348 --> 00:03:04,058 ♪ I got bills ♪ 50 00:03:04,642 --> 00:03:06,311 ♪ I gotta pay ♪ 51 00:03:06,394 --> 00:03:09,480 ♪ So I'ma gon' work, work Work every day ♪ 52 00:03:09,981 --> 00:03:11,774 ♪ I got mouths ♪ 53 00:03:11,858 --> 00:03:13,693 ♪ I gotta feed ♪ 54 00:03:13,776 --> 00:03:17,071 ♪ So I'ma gon' make sure everybody eats ♪ 55 00:03:17,655 --> 00:03:20,783 {\an8}Now how do you enter to work with me one-on-one? 56 00:03:21,367 --> 00:03:23,870 I want you to create a video, and in that video, 57 00:03:23,953 --> 00:03:27,832 I want you to share who you are, what you need help with. 58 00:03:27,916 --> 00:03:32,170 I'm looking to get some financial help because we're trying to start a family. 59 00:03:32,253 --> 00:03:34,172 Hopefully, by the end of the year... 60 00:03:34,255 --> 00:03:35,924 I've got a little money in savings, 61 00:03:36,007 --> 00:03:39,636 and I'd love to learn some ways to have it do more... 62 00:03:39,719 --> 00:03:43,890 {\an8}I've never put a budget together. I don't even know where to start. 63 00:03:43,973 --> 00:03:46,559 I just have no idea how much I should be paying, 64 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:48,186 how much I should be saving... 65 00:03:48,269 --> 00:03:52,357 $30,000 of student loan debt, which I may pay off in my 50s or 60s... 66 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,360 {\an8}How do you get ahead without taking out loans... 67 00:03:55,443 --> 00:03:58,321 {\an8}Honestly I have no idea what we're doing when it comes to retirement. 68 00:03:58,404 --> 00:04:00,782 {\an8}I am definitely in a paycheck-to-paycheck cycle... 69 00:04:00,865 --> 00:04:03,493 I currently have minimal funds in my bank account... 70 00:04:03,576 --> 00:04:05,620 I never had that financial education... 71 00:04:05,703 --> 00:04:07,455 Are we investing in the right areas... 72 00:04:07,538 --> 00:04:09,624 I definitely need help managing my money... 73 00:04:09,707 --> 00:04:12,293 - I really appreciate your help... - Could really use your help... 74 00:04:12,377 --> 00:04:13,711 - [WOMAN] ...help. - [MAN] I need help. 75 00:04:13,795 --> 00:04:16,256 ["BILLS" BY LUNCHMONEY LEWIS ENDS] 76 00:04:21,511 --> 00:04:23,930 Hi, I'm Kim and this is John. 77 00:04:24,013 --> 00:04:26,975 We are earning a lot for the first time. 78 00:04:27,058 --> 00:04:30,186 {\an8}Uh, we're also spending a lot and want to know what to do 79 00:04:30,270 --> 00:04:31,562 {\an8}with that money. 80 00:04:31,646 --> 00:04:35,275 {\an8}Uh, whether that's early retirement, or even what the options are. 81 00:04:35,858 --> 00:04:38,069 Kim and John are kind of the perfect candidates 82 00:04:38,152 --> 00:04:40,822 for financial freedom and early retirement. 83 00:04:40,905 --> 00:04:44,409 That just means you have more free time, more mental health, 84 00:04:44,492 --> 00:04:46,202 more time to spend with your kids. 85 00:04:46,786 --> 00:04:48,413 {\an8}Hi, I'm Ariana. 86 00:04:48,496 --> 00:04:51,666 {\an8}I am an emotional spender. 87 00:04:51,749 --> 00:04:55,878 {\an8}I am currently buried in a mountain of debt. 88 00:04:55,962 --> 00:04:59,924 I am super, super, super excited about meeting Ariana. 89 00:05:00,008 --> 00:05:03,720 Teaching women how to gain confidence 90 00:05:03,803 --> 00:05:05,930 about their money is kind of my jam. 91 00:05:06,848 --> 00:05:09,309 {\an8}My name's Teez. I got a big payday. 92 00:05:09,392 --> 00:05:11,144 {\an8}A lot of money sitting in the bank. 93 00:05:11,227 --> 00:05:14,022 {\an8}I know I should invest it, but I don't know where to start. 94 00:05:14,522 --> 00:05:18,151 {\an8}Teez, I would look at him and say he's the epitome of a normal athlete, right? 95 00:05:18,234 --> 00:05:19,694 You come from the inner city, 96 00:05:19,777 --> 00:05:21,571 then you're thrust into making a lot of money. 97 00:05:21,654 --> 00:05:24,198 He doesn't necessarily know what to do with it. 98 00:05:24,949 --> 00:05:29,120 {\an8}Hi there. Um, I'm Lindsey. I've been living paycheck to paycheck. 99 00:05:29,203 --> 00:05:30,580 {\an8}I have two jobs, 100 00:05:30,663 --> 00:05:33,082 {\an8}but I still haven't been able to save up any money, 101 00:05:33,166 --> 00:05:36,044 {\an8}and I'm trying to break out of this cycle. 102 00:05:36,127 --> 00:05:40,673 {\an8}Lindsey doesn't realize it, but she has so much going for her. 103 00:05:41,257 --> 00:05:44,385 And so if she wants to launch a new career, 104 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:46,679 this is absolutely the best time in her life 105 00:05:46,763 --> 00:05:48,890 for her to be able to take those risks. 106 00:05:50,350 --> 00:05:52,143 [UPBEAT MUSIC ENDS] 107 00:05:58,441 --> 00:06:00,443 [MELLOW MUSIC PLAYS] 108 00:06:05,948 --> 00:06:09,911 [LINDSEY] When I was in high school, I knew exactly what I wanted to do. 109 00:06:12,205 --> 00:06:14,957 I was like, "Yes, this is what's gonna happen." 110 00:06:16,042 --> 00:06:20,922 Go to college, go to fashion school, get an internship, get a job, 111 00:06:21,005 --> 00:06:25,927 and by the age of 35, be a name-brand designer. 112 00:06:28,346 --> 00:06:31,140 One day, I begged my mom for a sewing machine. 113 00:06:31,224 --> 00:06:33,893 I wanted to make my ideas come to life. 114 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:38,106 Then we started looking at fashion schools for me to apply to. 115 00:06:38,648 --> 00:06:41,275 That's where I really learned to hone my skills. 116 00:06:42,485 --> 00:06:45,113 I will say I never completed school, 117 00:06:46,155 --> 00:06:48,199 but I at least learned the basics. 118 00:06:50,701 --> 00:06:52,995 So, I had this plan, 119 00:06:53,955 --> 00:06:55,540 but things change. 120 00:06:55,623 --> 00:06:56,999 Hi. How are y'all doing today? 121 00:06:57,083 --> 00:06:58,292 - Good. How are you? - Good. 122 00:06:58,376 --> 00:07:00,545 - We have a keg of beer so far. - [MAN] Watermelon... 123 00:07:01,129 --> 00:07:02,046 Watermelon, hell yeah. 124 00:07:02,755 --> 00:07:06,634 I have two jobs right now. I am a waitress at a beer garden, 125 00:07:06,717 --> 00:07:09,637 and I am also a bartender at a brewery. 126 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,764 I have you at $7.00 today. 127 00:07:12,348 --> 00:07:14,725 Two jobs, 50 hours a week. 128 00:07:15,643 --> 00:07:17,937 - Y'all doing okay? Lovely. - [WOMAN] Yes, thank you. 129 00:07:18,020 --> 00:07:20,731 [LINDSEY] I don't really have a lot of time to be me. 130 00:07:20,815 --> 00:07:22,150 Here you go. 131 00:07:22,233 --> 00:07:25,486 Because it's all about making that money just to survive. 132 00:07:25,987 --> 00:07:27,989 [UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS] 133 00:07:30,616 --> 00:07:31,659 [DINGS] 134 00:07:32,618 --> 00:07:35,621 I've got y'all's beer ready. Sorry about the wait. 135 00:07:36,914 --> 00:07:41,502 {\an8}When I get my paychecks, the first thing I do is pay my bills. 136 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:46,132 {\an8}But, when you're waitressing, you don't know how much you're gonna make. 137 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:51,971 {\an8}I have not been able to pay all my bills for about 14 months now. 138 00:07:53,514 --> 00:07:57,226 {\an8}My biggest issue is not just that it doesn't pay more money, 139 00:07:57,310 --> 00:07:59,353 but I wish I could have health insurance. 140 00:07:59,437 --> 00:08:01,439 [MELLOW MUSIC PLAYS] 141 00:08:02,815 --> 00:08:05,651 I struggle with depression and anxiety, 142 00:08:06,569 --> 00:08:09,489 and I would like to take medication for it 143 00:08:09,572 --> 00:08:12,158 because I know that it would help me. 144 00:08:13,284 --> 00:08:15,369 However, I can't afford that. 145 00:08:19,499 --> 00:08:23,878 The amount of money I make definitely eats at me inside. 146 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:28,007 How I strive to be this image 147 00:08:28,090 --> 00:08:32,094 that I grew up to believe was successful. 148 00:08:32,929 --> 00:08:36,140 I just don't feel like where I'm supposed to be 149 00:08:36,224 --> 00:08:37,725 at this point in my life. 150 00:08:42,271 --> 00:08:47,568 I feel like I am putting in a lot of work and a lot of labor and a lot of hours, 151 00:08:47,652 --> 00:08:50,404 and there's only so much that I can put in, 152 00:08:50,488 --> 00:08:53,783 but I don't want to be living paycheck to paycheck anymore. 153 00:08:55,701 --> 00:08:56,994 [PAULA] Hey, Instagram. 154 00:08:57,078 --> 00:09:01,123 {\an8}Today, we're talking about reimagining the way we earn money. 155 00:09:01,207 --> 00:09:04,085 So that's exactly what I did when I ditched my nine-to-five 156 00:09:04,168 --> 00:09:05,920 and built an online business. 157 00:09:06,003 --> 00:09:09,840 And I want to help you find a sustainable way to make money. 158 00:09:09,924 --> 00:09:14,178 A way that matches your talents and sparks your passion. 159 00:09:16,430 --> 00:09:18,057 So, tell me about you. 160 00:09:18,140 --> 00:09:20,935 Well, I am a waitress, and I am a bartender, 161 00:09:21,018 --> 00:09:23,980 but my ultimate dream is to do something with art. 162 00:09:24,063 --> 00:09:26,691 - Lindsey, how old are you? - I am 27 years old. 163 00:09:26,774 --> 00:09:28,067 - [PAULA] Twenty-seven. Okay. - Yes. 164 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:30,403 So, I'll tell you about myself in my twenties. 165 00:09:30,486 --> 00:09:32,321 When I graduated from college, 166 00:09:32,405 --> 00:09:36,492 I got a job as a newspaper reporter and I made $21,000 a year. 167 00:09:36,576 --> 00:09:39,036 That's the equivalent of making $11.50 an hour. 168 00:09:39,620 --> 00:09:43,791 I was always really frugal, but I kept trying to save money. 169 00:09:43,874 --> 00:09:46,377 - To improve my financial situation. - Right. 170 00:09:46,460 --> 00:09:47,753 So in spending, 171 00:09:47,837 --> 00:09:50,298 the average American spends the majority of their money 172 00:09:50,381 --> 00:09:52,842 on the big three. Housing, transportation, food. 173 00:09:53,426 --> 00:09:55,928 If you cut back on those three things, 174 00:09:56,012 --> 00:09:58,389 that's where you're going to get the biggest savings. 175 00:09:59,390 --> 00:10:01,559 Downsizing your house or apartment, 176 00:10:01,642 --> 00:10:05,396 taking on a roommate, renting out a room on Airbnb, 177 00:10:05,479 --> 00:10:09,150 those are ways you can significantly reduce your housing costs. 178 00:10:09,233 --> 00:10:10,234 [LINDSEY] Okay. 179 00:10:10,318 --> 00:10:13,487 [PAULA] And you live someplace where a car is necessary, 180 00:10:13,571 --> 00:10:15,656 go for the cheapest option 181 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:18,576 that will safely get you from point A to point B. 182 00:10:19,410 --> 00:10:21,829 Nothing fancy, just utilitarian. 183 00:10:21,912 --> 00:10:25,833 Wonderful. All right, so tell me more about, like, your food habits, generally. 184 00:10:25,916 --> 00:10:31,088 I would say a majority of what we spend our food money on is take-out. 185 00:10:31,172 --> 00:10:33,549 - That's one thing I want to stop doing. - Hmm. 186 00:10:34,383 --> 00:10:38,262 [LINDSEY] My fiancé and I are both in the service industry. 187 00:10:38,346 --> 00:10:40,473 We've been around a kitchen all day. 188 00:10:40,556 --> 00:10:42,725 The last thing we wanna do is 189 00:10:42,808 --> 00:10:45,227 spend an hour cooking. 190 00:10:45,311 --> 00:10:47,396 [PAULA] First of all, restaurant food is more expensive 191 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,773 than food that you make yourself. 192 00:10:48,856 --> 00:10:53,194 - [LINDSEY] Oh, absolutely. - [PAULA] Then there's delivery charges. 193 00:10:53,277 --> 00:10:56,447 And you're in the service industry, so I'm sure you're a good tipper, 194 00:10:57,156 --> 00:11:00,117 which is great, but like, that adds up. 195 00:11:00,201 --> 00:11:01,077 [LINDSEY] It does. 196 00:11:02,453 --> 00:11:05,706 [PAULA] So instead of getting take-out, start meal prepping. 197 00:11:05,790 --> 00:11:07,541 Go to the grocery store once a week. 198 00:11:07,625 --> 00:11:11,045 Do a big batch run of pre-cooked meals for the whole week. 199 00:11:11,128 --> 00:11:12,046 Fantastic. 200 00:11:12,129 --> 00:11:15,758 Spending less is the quick and easy solution, 201 00:11:15,841 --> 00:11:18,594 but there's a limit to how much you can frugal down. 202 00:11:18,678 --> 00:11:21,055 There's no limit to how much you can make. 203 00:11:21,138 --> 00:11:24,433 I just wish I was making more, 204 00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:29,063 and one of the main drawbacks to the service industry 205 00:11:29,146 --> 00:11:31,315 is the lack of benefits. 206 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:34,443 You could try to find some type of side hustle 207 00:11:34,527 --> 00:11:36,612 or some type of work that you do on your own... 208 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:37,655 [LINDSEY] Hmm. 209 00:11:37,738 --> 00:11:40,533 ...that makes enough money that it compensates for that. 210 00:11:40,616 --> 00:11:41,575 - Okay. - [PAULA] Right? 211 00:11:41,659 --> 00:11:44,370 So, let's talk about the income side of the equation. 212 00:11:44,453 --> 00:11:47,164 - That's where the real potential exists. - Yes. 213 00:11:47,248 --> 00:11:51,752 What I saw was that in order to make more, I was gonna have to go independent 214 00:11:51,836 --> 00:11:55,297 and start my own side hustle, start my own business. 215 00:11:55,881 --> 00:11:59,468 There are two different types of side gigs that I want you to be thinking about. 216 00:11:59,552 --> 00:12:00,386 Okay. 217 00:12:00,469 --> 00:12:03,681 One is gig economy stuff. 218 00:12:03,764 --> 00:12:07,560 And so that's immediate, short-term, quick cash, 219 00:12:07,643 --> 00:12:10,563 something where boom, you can make money today. 220 00:12:10,646 --> 00:12:14,775 What other types of jobs do you think could fill in that gap? 221 00:12:14,859 --> 00:12:17,903 I used to, uh, dog sit for families. 222 00:12:17,987 --> 00:12:21,031 I love dogs. I love being around animals. 223 00:12:21,115 --> 00:12:24,243 - A side hustle dog walking or dog sitting... - [LINDSEY] Mm-hmm. 224 00:12:24,326 --> 00:12:26,704 ...that's gonna get money in the door this week. 225 00:12:26,787 --> 00:12:29,749 And then also there is the art aspect. 226 00:12:29,832 --> 00:12:31,625 I'm really good at illustration. 227 00:12:31,709 --> 00:12:33,461 If you can sketch really quickly, 228 00:12:33,544 --> 00:12:35,463 imagine if you went to a dog park 229 00:12:35,963 --> 00:12:39,759 and you walked up to someone and you're like, "Hey, I love your dog." 230 00:12:39,842 --> 00:12:42,261 "Do you mind if I just do a little 2-minute sketch?" 231 00:12:43,012 --> 00:12:44,221 You give them that sketch. 232 00:12:44,305 --> 00:12:46,098 You put your phone number at the bottom. 233 00:12:46,182 --> 00:12:47,308 By the way, I walk dogs. 234 00:12:47,892 --> 00:12:49,351 I love that idea! 235 00:12:49,435 --> 00:12:54,899 And then the other type of side gig is building out your own business, 236 00:12:54,982 --> 00:12:56,942 but it's going to take a lot longer. 237 00:12:59,904 --> 00:13:03,324 [LINDSEY] At some point, I would like to get out of the service industry. 238 00:13:03,991 --> 00:13:05,659 Deep down at my core, 239 00:13:05,743 --> 00:13:08,162 I am an artist, and I always have been. 240 00:13:08,913 --> 00:13:10,706 I do a little bit of everything. 241 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:12,917 I do painting. 242 00:13:13,959 --> 00:13:15,669 I make costumes. 243 00:13:17,046 --> 00:13:21,091 And that's been my dream my entire life of what I would like to do. 244 00:13:23,302 --> 00:13:25,805 [PAULA] So the most important thing is that you have the hustle. 245 00:13:25,888 --> 00:13:27,389 I've got the drive and the heart. 246 00:13:27,473 --> 00:13:29,475 I feel like I just don't have the know-how. 247 00:13:30,059 --> 00:13:33,062 - Easy. Easy. I got that. I got that. - [LINDSEY] Awesome. [CHUCKLES] 248 00:13:34,188 --> 00:13:36,398 Art is my passion. 249 00:13:37,149 --> 00:13:41,403 So I would love to find a way to make money from my art. 250 00:13:41,487 --> 00:13:42,988 That is the ultimate dream. 251 00:13:49,453 --> 00:13:51,247 [UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS] 252 00:14:02,424 --> 00:14:03,592 [DOOR OPENS] 253 00:14:07,513 --> 00:14:11,559 [TEEZ] Growing up, you look at playing football as this big dream. 254 00:14:11,642 --> 00:14:13,185 You know, the promised land. 255 00:14:15,229 --> 00:14:18,607 It takes one person to break through the generations of poverty 256 00:14:18,691 --> 00:14:20,526 or living paycheck to paycheck. 257 00:14:25,739 --> 00:14:27,074 [WOMAN] I love the pink one. 258 00:14:27,783 --> 00:14:30,077 Go show Daddy. You can show him. 259 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,579 [TEEZ] Oh, Mama. A princess. 260 00:14:32,621 --> 00:14:33,747 You look sweet! 261 00:14:34,331 --> 00:14:35,833 You got on your crown. 262 00:14:35,916 --> 00:14:37,459 Who your best friend? 263 00:14:37,543 --> 00:14:39,086 My best friend Mama. 264 00:14:39,169 --> 00:14:40,504 - [WOMAN LAUGHS] - Oh. 265 00:14:40,588 --> 00:14:42,548 - You played me. - [WOMAN LAUGHS] 266 00:14:42,631 --> 00:14:44,383 [TEEZ] I thought Daddy was your best friend. 267 00:14:44,466 --> 00:14:45,426 [CHUCKLES] 268 00:14:48,178 --> 00:14:52,057 [TEEZ] Somebody like me, a young, Black African-American male, 269 00:14:52,141 --> 00:14:53,893 that come from where I come from, 270 00:14:54,393 --> 00:14:57,146 I thought football was the only way to make money and make a lot of it. 271 00:14:58,647 --> 00:15:00,399 [COMMENTATOR 1] It's off! Tabor! 272 00:15:00,983 --> 00:15:04,194 Picked up by Tabor. Tabor racing to the endzone! 273 00:15:04,945 --> 00:15:09,408 [TEEZ] After my third season in college, everybody was talking about me. 274 00:15:09,491 --> 00:15:12,453 [COMMENTATOR 2] One of the best quarterbacks in the nation is Teez Tabor. 275 00:15:13,078 --> 00:15:16,832 This could be a pick six! Touchdown! Tabor! 276 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:19,793 [TEEZ] Once I realized I can make a career out of it, 277 00:15:19,877 --> 00:15:21,754 it was no way I could stay in school. 278 00:15:21,837 --> 00:15:24,381 They talk about you making beaucoup bucks. 279 00:15:24,465 --> 00:15:26,383 You got people you gotta take care of. 280 00:15:28,052 --> 00:15:29,887 [MAN] With the 53rd pick, 281 00:15:30,554 --> 00:15:35,267 in the 2017 master football league draft, 282 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:40,564 the Detroit Lions have selected Teez Tabor. 283 00:15:40,648 --> 00:15:42,608 {\an8}[CROWD CHEERS] 284 00:15:42,691 --> 00:15:46,236 {\an8}[TEEZ] My first check says 1.6 million. 285 00:15:46,946 --> 00:15:50,574 {\an8}A young kid from Maryland, 21, instantly rich. 286 00:15:51,158 --> 00:15:55,829 {\an8}But I had to pay my agent out the gate, and taxes is 40%. 287 00:15:57,039 --> 00:15:58,791 {\an8}I bought my mother a house. 288 00:15:58,874 --> 00:16:00,334 {\an8}I bought this house. 289 00:16:00,417 --> 00:16:01,877 {\an8}A couple jewelry pieces. 290 00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:03,170 {\an8}[SCREEN WHIRRING] 291 00:16:03,253 --> 00:16:04,588 Those were the big purchases. 292 00:16:05,089 --> 00:16:08,008 I went to Paris. I went to Saint Lucia, Hawaii. 293 00:16:11,345 --> 00:16:12,262 Man... 294 00:16:12,846 --> 00:16:15,891 But I went from 1.6 to two-something. 295 00:16:16,433 --> 00:16:18,936 Two eighty. I'm like, "This will go fast." 296 00:16:19,019 --> 00:16:21,814 {\an8}I'm gonna cool off 'cause I see how quick it can go. 297 00:16:22,690 --> 00:16:24,316 [REFEREE BLOWS WHISTLE] 298 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,986 Only goal in mind was keep playing football. 299 00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:28,529 The money will keep coming in. 300 00:16:29,863 --> 00:16:31,907 I played two seasons in Detroit. 301 00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:33,909 [COMMENTATOR] On the sideline, he makes the catch, 302 00:16:33,993 --> 00:16:35,869 right in front of Teez Tabor. 303 00:16:36,453 --> 00:16:39,790 [TEEZ] Everybody in the NFL know if you're not producing at a high level, 304 00:16:39,873 --> 00:16:41,291 they're gonna get rid of you. 305 00:16:41,792 --> 00:16:43,794 [SOMBER MUSIC PLAYS] 306 00:16:45,045 --> 00:16:46,839 I ended up getting released. 307 00:16:49,383 --> 00:16:52,428 After I got released from Detroit, I ended up going to San Fran. 308 00:16:53,804 --> 00:16:56,390 But I break my foot right before training camp. 309 00:16:57,808 --> 00:16:59,601 So, they had to release me. 310 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:01,562 {\an8}Right there. 311 00:17:01,645 --> 00:17:03,022 {\an8}[GRUNTS SOFTLY] 312 00:17:04,314 --> 00:17:05,983 [TEEZ] My world came crashing down. 313 00:17:06,608 --> 00:17:08,402 [THERAPIST] Let's take it back down. 314 00:17:08,485 --> 00:17:13,365 [TEEZ] There were some long nights. Some long nights thinking like, "Why me?" 315 00:17:13,449 --> 00:17:16,410 "Why get me all the way here and then take it away from me?" 316 00:17:19,371 --> 00:17:21,707 [CAR ENGINE REVVING] 317 00:17:21,790 --> 00:17:24,918 That made me take a step back and open my eyes up to my money. 318 00:17:28,005 --> 00:17:32,217 One of my good friends told me about the guy who they feel help people 319 00:17:32,301 --> 00:17:33,510 with their finances. 320 00:17:36,096 --> 00:17:38,015 - What's good, brodie? - Yes, sir. 321 00:17:38,098 --> 00:17:40,768 - Oh. How you livin', fool? - I'm good. How are you? 322 00:17:40,851 --> 00:17:42,311 Man, I'm all good, thank you. 323 00:17:43,729 --> 00:17:45,647 [RO$$] I'm a financial educator. 324 00:17:45,731 --> 00:17:49,485 {\an8}I opened up my brokerage account to start buying stocks at the age of 18. 325 00:17:50,986 --> 00:17:55,115 I'm 31 now, but I'm close to being financially free already. 326 00:17:55,699 --> 00:17:57,743 My kids will be financially free. 327 00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:01,413 What we're talking about right now is the future, 328 00:18:01,497 --> 00:18:04,917 {\an8}and the way you get invested in it right now 329 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,378 {\an8}is getting out of your own logic of thinking. 330 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:13,801 [RO$$] You know, I ended up working at Morgan Stanley for three years, 331 00:18:13,884 --> 00:18:16,929 so for me it's like, man, I just want to start helping our community get 332 00:18:17,012 --> 00:18:21,058 better exposure to investing. Better exposure to financial literacy. 333 00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:26,230 {\an8}Like, when did it trigger in your mind, like, "All right, I need to be investing," 334 00:18:26,313 --> 00:18:28,148 {\an8}or any conversations like that? 335 00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:33,779 {\an8}I felt like after my second season, when I ended up getting hurt, 336 00:18:35,030 --> 00:18:37,825 me realizing like, "What are you going to do?" 337 00:18:37,908 --> 00:18:39,993 Football's been my life since I was four years old, 338 00:18:40,077 --> 00:18:41,995 so when I step outside this box, 339 00:18:42,788 --> 00:18:45,082 I don't even know where to go, like, where to even start. 340 00:18:45,165 --> 00:18:46,291 I'm a fish out of water. 341 00:18:46,375 --> 00:18:47,751 -Mm-hmm -[TEEZ] You know... 342 00:18:47,835 --> 00:18:50,671 We gotta look at this and say like, "What happens right now?" 343 00:18:50,754 --> 00:18:52,965 - If you never get another football check. - Right. 344 00:18:53,048 --> 00:18:54,633 [RO$$] And you don't know where to start. 345 00:18:54,716 --> 00:18:56,718 The easiest way to become a player at the game, 346 00:18:56,802 --> 00:18:58,470 just put your money in the S&P 500 347 00:18:58,971 --> 00:19:02,766 because on average, that's gonna grow at 10% each year. 348 00:19:02,850 --> 00:19:06,728 So what is that... You said S&P S... 349 00:19:06,812 --> 00:19:10,315 S&P 500. They made... They made an index to say 350 00:19:10,399 --> 00:19:13,610 we're gonna buy all of these 500 companies. 351 00:19:13,694 --> 00:19:14,820 [SCREEN WHIRRING] 352 00:19:14,903 --> 00:19:17,948 [RO$$] So, look, when you're thinking about investing, here's the... 353 00:19:18,031 --> 00:19:19,616 Put it in layman's terms, right? 354 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:21,952 By buying a stock, you literally are able to buy 355 00:19:22,035 --> 00:19:23,954 a very small piece of a company. 356 00:19:24,913 --> 00:19:28,458 An index fund is literally a basket of stocks. 357 00:19:28,542 --> 00:19:32,254 You're not just buying one stock. You get to buy a basket of them. 358 00:19:32,754 --> 00:19:36,341 And what's great about it, it gives you inherent diversity. 359 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:38,218 In the S&P 500, 360 00:19:38,302 --> 00:19:40,554 {\an8}you have all the sectors that you could think of. 361 00:19:40,637 --> 00:19:44,349 {\an8}Retail companies. There's banks. You got healthcare companies. 362 00:19:44,433 --> 00:19:48,061 {\an8}Technology companies. You got oil and gas, airlines. 363 00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:51,231 Now, obviously, the market, 364 00:19:51,315 --> 00:19:53,817 you can have disclaimers that the market could go down. 365 00:19:53,901 --> 00:19:56,612 There are years the market could go down 10%, 366 00:19:56,695 --> 00:19:59,156 but Warren Buffet, if you google him right now, 367 00:19:59,239 --> 00:20:00,699 he's going to tell anybody... 368 00:20:00,782 --> 00:20:04,369 He's the smartest investor of all time. He make money the slow way. 369 00:20:04,453 --> 00:20:06,622 Right? He's going to tell you, anybody at the crib, 370 00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:09,416 Mom and Pop, Grandma know, Uncle Ray Ray know, 371 00:20:09,499 --> 00:20:11,668 - just put your money in the S&P 500... - Put your money... 372 00:20:11,752 --> 00:20:14,338 ...and it's gonna really build over time. 373 00:20:15,005 --> 00:20:17,090 - All right. Let's get into it. - For sure. 374 00:20:18,550 --> 00:20:20,719 - [WOMAN] Whoo! - [GIRL LAUGHS] 375 00:20:22,137 --> 00:20:25,390 - Not so fast! Want fast? Okay. - Run in the grass though! Be careful! 376 00:20:25,474 --> 00:20:29,061 [TEEZ] Our parents always taught us how to, like, fend for ourselves. 377 00:20:29,144 --> 00:20:30,687 A hustler's mentality, so, 378 00:20:30,771 --> 00:20:35,901 that's what they did teach us, uh, but as far as, uh, savings plans, 379 00:20:35,984 --> 00:20:38,070 investment plans, 380 00:20:38,654 --> 00:20:42,199 we... we don't know. It's... It's a language that's never taught to us. 381 00:20:42,282 --> 00:20:44,993 Daddy gonna catch you. Daddy gonna catch you. 382 00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:47,371 - [WOMAN LAUGHS] - [GIRL LAUGHS] 383 00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:53,085 I wanna go to the skies. 384 00:20:53,168 --> 00:20:54,503 You wanna go to the skies? 385 00:20:55,295 --> 00:20:57,130 [TEEZ] I just wanna help my daughter. 386 00:20:57,214 --> 00:21:00,968 - Okay. One... - One, two, three, four. 387 00:21:01,051 --> 00:21:03,178 [LAUGHS AND SCREAMS] 388 00:21:05,138 --> 00:21:08,600 [TEEZ] I wanna make it easier for her 389 00:21:08,684 --> 00:21:12,229 than, you know, my people's made it for me. 390 00:21:13,146 --> 00:21:15,399 - [TEEZ] Whoo. Yum. - [LAUGHS] 391 00:21:23,323 --> 00:21:27,869 [ARIANA] "The night Max wore his wolf suit and made mischief of one kind 392 00:21:27,953 --> 00:21:30,455 and another..." Look, he's chasing the puppy. 393 00:21:30,539 --> 00:21:32,249 He's chasing the puppy. 394 00:21:32,332 --> 00:21:35,919 He's chasing the puppy. "...his mother called him Wild Thing 395 00:21:37,045 --> 00:21:39,339 and Max said, 'I'll eat you up!' 396 00:21:40,841 --> 00:21:44,469 so he was sent to his bed without anything to eat." 397 00:21:44,553 --> 00:21:45,679 Oh no! 398 00:21:47,055 --> 00:21:49,433 Money was something to be spent growing up. 399 00:21:51,727 --> 00:21:53,895 My parents came from the Dominican Republic 400 00:21:53,979 --> 00:21:55,022 when I was three. 401 00:21:56,648 --> 00:22:00,527 And I distinctly remember my parents having a lot of conversations 402 00:22:00,610 --> 00:22:05,240 around like, "Well, we deserve this," or "I want this so I'm going to buy this." 403 00:22:06,616 --> 00:22:08,994 I was the first person in my family to go to college. 404 00:22:10,412 --> 00:22:12,831 It was like, "Just take out loans. It's fine." 405 00:22:13,832 --> 00:22:17,169 But no one explained to me my student loans were accruing interest 406 00:22:17,252 --> 00:22:19,880 from the minute I signed them. 407 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:23,175 Or like, why are you allowing an 18-year-old 408 00:22:23,258 --> 00:22:25,302 to take out $25,000 a year? 409 00:22:25,385 --> 00:22:27,012 Like, how is that okay? 410 00:22:28,889 --> 00:22:34,144 And now I'm sitting here with $108,000 in student loans. 411 00:22:35,395 --> 00:22:36,355 [BABY COOING] 412 00:22:36,938 --> 00:22:38,398 [MUMBLES] 413 00:22:39,483 --> 00:22:42,110 The credit card spending started when I was young. 414 00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:43,570 [UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS] 415 00:22:43,653 --> 00:22:46,031 I got my first job out of college, 416 00:22:46,114 --> 00:22:49,534 and I wound up getting an apartment in New York that I couldn't afford. 417 00:22:49,618 --> 00:22:50,869 With no savings. 418 00:22:51,787 --> 00:22:52,829 And it went from there. 419 00:22:54,081 --> 00:22:57,250 Brunch was easily, like, $100 every weekend. 420 00:22:58,126 --> 00:23:00,587 And then, like, my friends were going out, 421 00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:03,423 and, you know, they were all buying new clothes. 422 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,134 I couldn't always afford it. 423 00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:10,931 But I was like, "I deserve this," or "I had a really hard week. It's fine." 424 00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:13,683 And then we had kids. 425 00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:17,479 And then Amazon and Target became things. 426 00:23:18,188 --> 00:23:19,898 I got more credit cards. 427 00:23:19,981 --> 00:23:21,691 Buying things for the kids, 428 00:23:21,775 --> 00:23:26,196 buying clothes, buying things to entertain ourselves with. 429 00:23:28,156 --> 00:23:29,408 I look around sometimes, 430 00:23:29,491 --> 00:23:31,868 {\an8}and it's almost like I see dollar signs everywhere. 431 00:23:34,746 --> 00:23:36,915 If I look back at the credit card statements, 432 00:23:36,998 --> 00:23:39,292 I couldn't even tell you what it was. 433 00:23:40,502 --> 00:23:42,754 And just like buying to buy. 434 00:23:46,341 --> 00:23:48,427 My husband was covering the majority of bills 435 00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:50,262 so I can focus on paying things off. 436 00:23:51,596 --> 00:23:54,141 And it just didn't happen. Like, I tried. 437 00:23:54,933 --> 00:23:57,811 I wound up getting personal loans to pay off the cards 438 00:23:57,894 --> 00:24:00,397 to make it one lump payment and a lower interest rate. 439 00:24:02,065 --> 00:24:04,651 And that decreased my monthly payments, 440 00:24:04,734 --> 00:24:08,405 which was helpful because, you know, I wasn't making that much money, 441 00:24:08,488 --> 00:24:10,615 but then it freed up all my credit cards. 442 00:24:11,658 --> 00:24:14,953 And they wound up getting maxed out again. 443 00:24:15,036 --> 00:24:16,288 {\an8}- Okay. - [BABY COOS] 444 00:24:18,623 --> 00:24:20,834 {\an8}[SIZZLING] 445 00:24:21,418 --> 00:24:24,087 It feels like I'm just gonna always have debt. 446 00:24:26,131 --> 00:24:29,050 Like, I just am not making the right decisions. 447 00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:34,181 [TIFFANY] One of the first steps you have to take when you're that deep in a hole, 448 00:24:34,264 --> 00:24:35,932 is you have to ask for help. 449 00:24:36,808 --> 00:24:40,479 {\an8}I know firsthand there are other people that were in debt 450 00:24:40,562 --> 00:24:42,189 {\an8}that are no longer in debt. 451 00:24:42,272 --> 00:24:47,444 {\an8}Tiffany Aliche was a preschool teacher who lost it all and fell into debt 452 00:24:47,527 --> 00:24:49,488 {\an8}during the recession in 2008. 453 00:24:50,071 --> 00:24:53,533 I was 30 years old with $300,000 plus in debt. 454 00:24:54,242 --> 00:24:57,871 I was like, "Okay. Let me start with the bare-bones basics." 455 00:24:57,954 --> 00:25:02,167 Let me list my bills. Let me figure out what my expenses are. 456 00:25:03,126 --> 00:25:04,920 {\an8}She pulled herself out of debt 457 00:25:05,003 --> 00:25:08,798 {\an8}and began teaching financial literacy seminars to women. 458 00:25:09,466 --> 00:25:11,843 [TIFFANY] What I just shared with Ariana is even though I made 459 00:25:11,927 --> 00:25:14,471 every mistake possible with my money, 460 00:25:14,554 --> 00:25:16,473 I was able to regain my footing, 461 00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:18,642 and so can she. 462 00:25:21,019 --> 00:25:24,481 So, how do you feel that you do when it comes to spending? 463 00:25:24,564 --> 00:25:25,440 [CHUCKLES] 464 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:28,026 - Depends on the week. - [BOTH LAUGH] 465 00:25:28,109 --> 00:25:30,237 Um... [BREATHES DEEPLY] 466 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,113 There are some days that I'm really good, 467 00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:34,241 and I spend literally no money on anything, 468 00:25:34,324 --> 00:25:37,452 and then there are other days where it's not so great, 469 00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:41,665 and I talk myself into buying things that we don't necessarily need. 470 00:25:41,748 --> 00:25:43,458 - Before you spend any money... - Mm-hmm. 471 00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:46,044 ...there are four questions you should really ask yourself. 472 00:25:46,127 --> 00:25:47,504 And those four questions are: 473 00:25:47,587 --> 00:25:49,506 - Do I need it? - [ARIANA] Mm-hmm. 474 00:25:49,589 --> 00:25:51,550 - Do I love it? - [ARIANA] Okay. 475 00:25:51,633 --> 00:25:53,218 - Do I like it? - [ARIANA] Okay. 476 00:25:53,301 --> 00:25:54,302 Do I want it? 477 00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:57,556 Need it, love it, like it, want it. I'm gonna write these down for you. 478 00:25:57,639 --> 00:25:58,640 Okay. 479 00:25:58,723 --> 00:26:01,851 Your needs are, "I must have this thing 480 00:26:01,935 --> 00:26:05,480 to maintain the health and safety of myself and my family." 481 00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:06,815 - Okay. - [TIFFANY] Right? 482 00:26:06,898 --> 00:26:08,400 So give me some examples of some needs. 483 00:26:08,483 --> 00:26:10,527 - Mortgage, groceries. - Mortgage. Mm-hmm. 484 00:26:11,152 --> 00:26:12,612 Loves are this. 485 00:26:12,696 --> 00:26:15,907 I want you to imagine if you had... Who is one of the wealthiest people 486 00:26:15,991 --> 00:26:18,910 in the world that you're like, "There's someone that can talk about wealth." 487 00:26:18,994 --> 00:26:21,454 - Oprah. [LAUGHS] - I was gonna say, yup! [LAUGHS] 488 00:26:21,538 --> 00:26:24,332 - Everybody, right? If you had... - [ARIANA] Oprah money. 489 00:26:24,416 --> 00:26:26,751 - You get a car! You get a car! - [TIFFANY] Everybody! [LAUGHS] 490 00:26:26,835 --> 00:26:27,794 Yeah! Like... 491 00:26:27,877 --> 00:26:31,047 Yes, if you had Oprah money, what would you do or do more of? 492 00:26:31,631 --> 00:26:32,549 Oh God. 493 00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:34,718 [ARIANA EXHALES] 494 00:26:34,801 --> 00:26:37,137 - Go on vacation. Travel with the kids. - Right? 495 00:26:37,220 --> 00:26:40,056 And often times we skip over love 'cause it can be a little pricey. 496 00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:41,433 - Yeah. - You know? 497 00:26:41,516 --> 00:26:43,977 So we skip right to likes and wants. 498 00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:46,354 So a like is something that will bring you joy 499 00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:48,106 for about less than six months. 500 00:26:48,189 --> 00:26:49,899 And so wants are just... 501 00:26:49,983 --> 00:26:52,152 There's no joy there, just temporary satisfaction. 502 00:26:52,235 --> 00:26:55,864 I feel like most of the things I buy from Amazon fall into that category. 503 00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:57,407 - [TIFFANY] Okay. - [ARIANA] It's like... 504 00:26:57,490 --> 00:27:00,702 - It's easy to press that purchase button. - [TIFFANY] Yes. 505 00:27:02,329 --> 00:27:05,415 I want you to think of your needs and loves like a quadrant, right? 506 00:27:05,498 --> 00:27:10,295 So needs and loves are on this side and then likes and wants on this side. 507 00:27:10,378 --> 00:27:13,715 So when you are focused on your needs and your loves, 508 00:27:13,798 --> 00:27:16,551 you're really living in more of your life. 509 00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:19,220 And when you're focused on your likes and your wants, 510 00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:21,306 you're really living less of a life. 511 00:27:21,389 --> 00:27:23,141 [SOOTHING MUSIC PLAYS] 512 00:27:23,224 --> 00:27:27,979 At the end of this journey, if I can... not be afraid of money, 513 00:27:29,022 --> 00:27:33,693 if I can have the confidence to know that I will get out of debt 514 00:27:33,777 --> 00:27:35,612 and I will stay out debt, 515 00:27:37,113 --> 00:27:38,490 it would be huge. 516 00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:44,496 [UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS] 517 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,541 {\an8}[JOHN] Do you want kids or kitchen? 518 00:27:48,625 --> 00:27:49,542 {\an8}[KIM] I don't care. 519 00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:50,502 [JOHN] Okay. 520 00:27:51,252 --> 00:27:52,587 I'll do kids. 521 00:27:53,296 --> 00:27:55,298 - Just yell if you need me. - [JOHN] Okay. 522 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:58,718 Beep, beep, beep, beep. 523 00:27:58,802 --> 00:28:01,096 There you go! All right! 524 00:28:01,179 --> 00:28:02,305 I'm an engineer. 525 00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:04,849 - Nice job! - [BOY] Nice job! 526 00:28:04,933 --> 00:28:08,478 [JOHN] When COVID hit, they cut a bunch of the team. 527 00:28:09,813 --> 00:28:12,148 And I was just part of the... part of the cut. 528 00:28:15,026 --> 00:28:16,277 I'm a stay-at-home dad now. 529 00:28:16,361 --> 00:28:19,447 Good, buddy. Oh, should we put gas in the car? 530 00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:22,909 - Like that's my primary responsibility. - [BOY] It's Dad. 531 00:28:24,077 --> 00:28:26,079 [CLASSICAL MUSIC PLAYS] 532 00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:36,381 Right now, John does everything. 533 00:28:36,464 --> 00:28:37,882 Like everything. 534 00:28:42,345 --> 00:28:43,304 It's a lot. 535 00:28:45,598 --> 00:28:47,726 And it's not always been that way for us, 536 00:28:47,809 --> 00:28:50,562 but he's had to learn all of it. 537 00:28:51,646 --> 00:28:53,565 - [JOHN] I'm super happy about it. - [KIM] Yeah. 538 00:28:56,526 --> 00:28:59,070 [JOHN] 'Cause I have an amazing bond with our kids. 539 00:28:59,154 --> 00:29:00,947 [KIM] You do, which is so beautiful. 540 00:29:01,781 --> 00:29:04,743 And I'm, like, really jealous all the time. [LAUGHS] 541 00:29:04,826 --> 00:29:08,663 And then my ego gets jealous of, you know, how successful you are. 542 00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:12,125 - Like, 'cause you are really successful. - Yeah. 543 00:29:12,208 --> 00:29:17,005 It's just so ingrained that the way I contribute as a man 544 00:29:17,088 --> 00:29:18,214 is to make money. 545 00:29:18,298 --> 00:29:19,215 What's up? 546 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,219 [KIM] When he started being a stay-at-home dad, 547 00:29:23,303 --> 00:29:28,224 I really struggled with becoming the sole income maker 548 00:29:28,308 --> 00:29:31,644 and working so much and being unavailable for my kids. 549 00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,814 Hello! 550 00:29:34,898 --> 00:29:37,358 - [WOMAN] Hi! [LAUGHS] - How are you? 551 00:29:38,026 --> 00:29:44,532 I am a psychotherapist and women's empowerment coach. 552 00:29:44,616 --> 00:29:48,203 There's all kinds of different ways that you can embody a change, 553 00:29:48,286 --> 00:29:49,621 a transformation. 554 00:29:49,704 --> 00:29:54,918 Part of the reason that we chose to have John stay at home 555 00:29:55,001 --> 00:29:58,254 is because my business was growing financially. 556 00:29:59,339 --> 00:30:00,924 It was exponential growth. 557 00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:04,803 In 2018, it was maybe 70K for the year. 558 00:30:04,886 --> 00:30:09,390 And then in 2020, it was about 150, 559 00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:14,020 and then this year, in theory, I'll be around 300. 560 00:30:14,771 --> 00:30:18,775 But every time we make more money, we spend more money. 561 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,572 I want to kind of like, go to the other end of the spectrum 562 00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:26,950 and learn how to save, 563 00:30:27,033 --> 00:30:29,494 but we need... we definitely need somebody to help us with that. 564 00:30:29,577 --> 00:30:30,495 But we learned... Yeah. 565 00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:32,664 [JAZZ MUSIC PLAYS] 566 00:30:32,747 --> 00:30:36,417 {\an8}You're about to meet a young man who retired at the age of 30. 567 00:30:36,501 --> 00:30:38,461 - Let's get rid of this mop. - [CLIPPER BUZZES] 568 00:30:38,545 --> 00:30:42,632 When you do the math on this, it's something like $10,000 of haircuts 569 00:30:42,715 --> 00:30:44,843 that this $40 device has saved me. 570 00:30:44,926 --> 00:30:48,596 [REPORTER 1] He preaches {\an8}his financial gospel on his popular blog, 571 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,306 {\an8}Mr. Money Mustache. 572 00:30:51,307 --> 00:30:53,935 [MAN] It has become a worldwide cult phenomenon, 573 00:30:54,018 --> 00:30:57,188 which has grown to reach about 23 million different people 574 00:30:57,272 --> 00:30:59,399 since its inception. 575 00:30:59,482 --> 00:31:02,777 [KIM] I've gotten Mr. Money Mustache's emails for years, 576 00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:04,863 and I didn't even think that was a possibility 577 00:31:04,946 --> 00:31:06,364 that you could retire early. 578 00:31:07,031 --> 00:31:10,827 I just assumed that my life was going to be just what's expected. 579 00:31:10,910 --> 00:31:15,748 You work until you're 65, and then you can finally have a life. 580 00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:20,253 {\an8}- [MAN] Happy to finally meet y'all! - [BOTH] How are you doing? 581 00:31:20,336 --> 00:31:22,505 {\an8}[MAN] So like, what brings you to me, 582 00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:24,716 {\an8}and what's your goal in changing your life? 583 00:31:25,216 --> 00:31:28,803 {\an8}We're on the cusp of a high income. 584 00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:32,265 And so now that we have this resource, 585 00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:34,976 we want the tangible steps where we can set ourselves up 586 00:31:35,059 --> 00:31:37,604 for the next five, ten years with a plan. 587 00:31:37,687 --> 00:31:40,773 So that we can be financially independent after that. 588 00:31:40,857 --> 00:31:44,110 Like, what tangible steps did you take at age 30? 589 00:31:44,193 --> 00:31:46,321 I was just earning kind of an engineer's salary, 590 00:31:46,404 --> 00:31:48,656 which back in that day was $80,000 a year... 591 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:49,699 [JOHN] Hmm. 592 00:31:49,782 --> 00:31:54,203 ...and cutting our expenses where we were living on $40,000 a year. 593 00:31:54,287 --> 00:31:57,832 You invest the surplus in just a standard index fund, 594 00:31:57,916 --> 00:31:59,792 and it just kind of builds up. 595 00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:03,004 And then when we got to the level of investments, 596 00:32:03,087 --> 00:32:05,006 um, that was enough to live on, 597 00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:07,133 that was when we felt safe quitting our jobs. 598 00:32:07,216 --> 00:32:09,469 And the definition of "enough to live on" 599 00:32:09,552 --> 00:32:13,264 just very roughly is that you have 25 times your living expenses 600 00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:14,307 in investments. 601 00:32:15,058 --> 00:32:17,226 If your expenses are $100,000 a year, 602 00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:21,731 you need 2.5 million dollars invested to sustain that lifestyle. 603 00:32:22,231 --> 00:32:25,693 So it's not really your income that matters. It's your spending choices. 604 00:32:26,235 --> 00:32:29,906 So I think the first step would be figuring out where your money is going, 605 00:32:29,989 --> 00:32:32,158 like, what do you think is the most spendy stuff? 606 00:32:32,825 --> 00:32:35,370 - [KIM] This is the embarrassing part. - [PETE] Okay, this is great. 607 00:32:35,453 --> 00:32:39,040 So I see shopping, which is a very big category. 608 00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:41,834 - [KIM LAUGHS] Yeah. - It's almost $2,000 a month. 609 00:32:42,502 --> 00:32:43,962 - Lots of Amazon. - [PETE] Yeah. 610 00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:45,088 [KIM] Let's see. 611 00:32:45,171 --> 00:32:48,591 I just purchased dumbbells for my SoulCycle classes. 612 00:32:48,675 --> 00:32:50,385 Ballet slippers, 613 00:32:50,468 --> 00:32:52,303 birthday supplies, 614 00:32:52,387 --> 00:32:53,346 hair stuff, 615 00:32:53,429 --> 00:32:54,806 more dog stuff. 616 00:32:55,306 --> 00:32:57,934 Everybody's brain has this thing that I call the PJM. 617 00:32:58,017 --> 00:33:00,478 - It's Purchase Justification Machine... - [KIM AND JOHN LAUGH] 618 00:33:00,561 --> 00:33:03,773 ...and it's a little machine running in their head and it's like... 619 00:33:03,856 --> 00:33:04,983 [MIMICS ELECTRONIC BEEPS] 620 00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:08,277 ...and it spits out excuses for why you really want to buy something 621 00:33:08,361 --> 00:33:10,071 even if you don't actually need it. 622 00:33:10,947 --> 00:33:14,993 So the idea is to throw some dirt and grit into the gears of this PJM 623 00:33:15,076 --> 00:33:16,995 - to slow it down. - [MACHINE RATTLES] 624 00:33:17,078 --> 00:33:19,539 What that means is asking yourself questions like, 625 00:33:19,622 --> 00:33:23,084 "Am I really gonna use this thing? How often would I use it?" 626 00:33:23,626 --> 00:33:27,130 Anything you could throw in front is going to slow down your purchases, 627 00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:28,631 and you'll end up spending less. 628 00:33:29,298 --> 00:33:31,259 [MACHINE HISSING] 629 00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:33,344 The second-highest category is groceries. 630 00:33:33,428 --> 00:33:36,055 How many cheeses did you get this time? 631 00:33:36,139 --> 00:33:37,223 - [JOHN] Four. - [KIM CHUCKLES] 632 00:33:37,306 --> 00:33:39,767 [PETE] You're spending $1,200 a month on groceries. 633 00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:44,105 That is like banquet-level spending for a small family. 634 00:33:44,188 --> 00:33:45,857 - You must be... - Doesn't feel like it to us. 635 00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:48,693 You must be feeding, like, royalty every night. 636 00:33:48,776 --> 00:33:51,404 You potentially could get that down to 500, 637 00:33:51,487 --> 00:33:53,239 and that's $6,000 a year, 638 00:33:53,322 --> 00:33:57,660 $60,000 a decade, just by tweaking your food spending. 639 00:33:57,744 --> 00:34:02,331 Literally have no idea how you could possibly do that differently. 640 00:34:02,415 --> 00:34:07,545 I wonder if I could come to like a guest grocery shopping. 641 00:34:08,129 --> 00:34:10,089 - [JOHN] Yeah, let's do that. - [LAUGHS] Great. 642 00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:12,175 - Five years from now... - [JOHN] Okay. 643 00:34:12,258 --> 00:34:15,178 ...what would you like your lives to be like? 644 00:34:15,762 --> 00:34:18,347 The idea of retiring early sounds amazing. 645 00:34:18,431 --> 00:34:19,432 I'm totally into it, 646 00:34:19,515 --> 00:34:23,853 but also creating more space and time to be with the family, 647 00:34:23,936 --> 00:34:27,732 to have, um, the bandwidth to, like, actually be present. 648 00:34:27,815 --> 00:34:30,026 Yeah. That sounds really sustainable. 649 00:34:30,109 --> 00:34:33,071 Like, your plan is not very far-fetched at all. 650 00:34:33,154 --> 00:34:35,364 It feels far-fetched to me. I'm glad you think so. 651 00:34:35,448 --> 00:34:36,491 - [LAUGHS] - [PETE] Okay. 652 00:34:36,574 --> 00:34:38,576 Let's go play with your train set. 653 00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:41,079 [KIM] The last few years, 654 00:34:41,162 --> 00:34:45,625 we allowed ourselves to be more consumeristic 655 00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:47,627 to cope with stress... 656 00:34:47,710 --> 00:34:48,669 Only one. 657 00:34:48,753 --> 00:34:53,007 ...and as a reward for the hard work that I do. 658 00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:54,342 All right. Three. 659 00:34:54,967 --> 00:34:58,179 So at the end of the day, I'll, like, buy myself clothes 660 00:34:58,262 --> 00:35:00,139 or I'll buy them a toy... 661 00:35:01,307 --> 00:35:02,809 [SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY] 662 00:35:03,601 --> 00:35:07,563 ...but now, like, we're ready to start making good long-term decisions 663 00:35:07,647 --> 00:35:12,193 as opposed to just, like, getting through that time period. 664 00:35:20,743 --> 00:35:23,621 [RO$$] So, like, right now, realistically, 665 00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:27,500 all else fails, in two years, 666 00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:30,503 you would technically blow through your savings. 667 00:35:30,586 --> 00:35:31,671 Right. 668 00:35:32,171 --> 00:35:34,715 {\an8}For me, we got to get all the expenses down. 669 00:35:34,799 --> 00:35:36,259 {\an8}[DINGS] 670 00:35:36,342 --> 00:35:39,053 {\an8}Because you want to invest a portion of these savings. 671 00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:41,639 Right? And still be comfortable. 672 00:35:41,722 --> 00:35:45,017 How much did you splurge on a couple chains, a couple earrings, 673 00:35:45,101 --> 00:35:46,269 a couple watches? 674 00:35:47,436 --> 00:35:49,689 - [HESITATES] Sixty... - 60K. 675 00:35:49,772 --> 00:35:50,773 So let's do this. 676 00:35:50,857 --> 00:35:54,527 {\an8}Right now, if you would've put $60,000 into the S&P 500, 677 00:35:54,610 --> 00:35:58,614 {\an8}the stuff we was talking about, that $60,000 today... 678 00:35:59,740 --> 00:36:01,784 {\an8}...would be $112,000. 679 00:36:01,868 --> 00:36:03,119 {\an8}Hmm. All right. 680 00:36:03,202 --> 00:36:04,620 {\an8}Right? Nah, this ain't broke. 681 00:36:04,704 --> 00:36:08,374 I want you to see the numbers to just say, "Okay. I've been missing out on money." 682 00:36:08,457 --> 00:36:11,210 Know what I'm saying? That one little thing you forgot about. 683 00:36:11,294 --> 00:36:13,379 'Cause we bought a watch and something with it. 684 00:36:13,462 --> 00:36:17,049 So for me, my biggest thing is to just show you how the money works. 685 00:36:17,133 --> 00:36:19,385 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 686 00:36:22,763 --> 00:36:24,765 [RO$$] When you own it, you in the game. 687 00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:26,976 - Okay. - You feel me? Like you done laced them up. 688 00:36:27,059 --> 00:36:29,812 You between them white lines, and you really in the game. 689 00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:31,898 - You feel me? It's game time. - [CHUCKLES] 690 00:36:31,981 --> 00:36:34,859 [TEEZ] The only thing I know it's second and ten, third and five, 691 00:36:34,942 --> 00:36:38,196 X receive a cut split. Like, I don't... That's what I understand. 692 00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:42,408 I just know that I got this much money and I don't have the knowledge 693 00:36:42,491 --> 00:36:43,659 on how to keep it. 694 00:36:43,743 --> 00:36:48,206 Or how to really make it run a marathon for me. 695 00:36:48,289 --> 00:36:50,082 That's why I'm just trying to learn. 696 00:36:56,589 --> 00:36:59,383 [TIFFANY] So, first things first. Whenever you're doing a budget, 697 00:36:59,467 --> 00:37:02,595 a budget is just a picture of what your money is doing. 698 00:37:02,678 --> 00:37:06,057 And if you don't like that picture, you have the option to change it. 699 00:37:06,140 --> 00:37:08,559 So your "money out" list looks like this. 700 00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:18,819 So let's talk about money in. What do you take home monthly? 701 00:37:18,903 --> 00:37:20,488 Um, about $5,000. 702 00:37:20,571 --> 00:37:22,490 And then you said you had a second job? 703 00:37:22,573 --> 00:37:23,991 - Yes. So I'm... - Okay. 704 00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:26,035 I picked up some virtual assistant work. 705 00:37:26,118 --> 00:37:28,120 [TIFFANY] Which is about $700 a month. 706 00:37:28,204 --> 00:37:29,538 - Sounds right. - Okay. 707 00:37:29,622 --> 00:37:32,166 The good news is, there's actually money here. 708 00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:33,542 Yeah. 709 00:37:33,626 --> 00:37:36,087 [TIFFANY] At your job, do they allow you to split your paycheck? 710 00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:37,046 [ARIANA] Yeah. 711 00:37:37,129 --> 00:37:39,215 [TIFFANY] See if they'll do it up to five splits. 712 00:37:39,298 --> 00:37:40,925 Split it before you get it. 713 00:37:41,676 --> 00:37:44,595 Your five splits are your bills account for the home, 714 00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:46,555 your Ariana bucket for bills, 715 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:48,683 you have your spending account, 716 00:37:48,766 --> 00:37:50,351 and you have two savings. 717 00:37:50,434 --> 00:37:52,853 Savings has two functions. For emergencies and dreams. 718 00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:56,190 So you're going to put some in your emergency savings account 719 00:37:56,274 --> 00:37:57,942 and some in your dream savings. 720 00:37:58,025 --> 00:38:00,820 So this is your budget. That's it. A little bit of automation, 721 00:38:00,903 --> 00:38:03,614 then you don't have to at the grocery store scramble. 722 00:38:03,698 --> 00:38:04,907 - Yeah. - Because you know, 723 00:38:04,991 --> 00:38:08,369 "I put aside my money already. It's there. I asked my job to do it." 724 00:38:08,452 --> 00:38:11,956 It's there for you to lean into instead of your credit card. 725 00:38:13,624 --> 00:38:17,044 [ARIANA] I've tried almost every budget under the sun, 726 00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:19,297 and it's never really worked before. 727 00:38:19,797 --> 00:38:21,507 So this is really the chance. 728 00:38:23,050 --> 00:38:24,385 I'm ready to, like, do this work. 729 00:38:24,468 --> 00:38:27,221 I'm ready, like, to get to the point of financial wholeness 730 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:29,265 that Tiffany keeps talking about. 731 00:38:36,689 --> 00:38:39,358 [ROCK MUSIC PLAYS] 732 00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:40,443 [WOMAN] Nina, here! 733 00:38:41,235 --> 00:38:43,446 [KISSES] Hey! 734 00:38:44,697 --> 00:38:45,740 [LINDSEY] Hi there. 735 00:38:50,619 --> 00:38:53,122 [WOMAN KISSES] Nina! Stay! Come here. 736 00:38:53,748 --> 00:38:55,499 Okay? Go get it! 737 00:38:57,084 --> 00:38:59,253 [LINDSEY] The piece of advice that Paula gave me 738 00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:01,756 was to bring a sketchbook 739 00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:04,508 and draw people's dogs really quickly. 740 00:39:07,803 --> 00:39:11,432 [LINDSEY] Hi! I'm sorry to bother you. I hope you don't mind, 741 00:39:11,515 --> 00:39:15,353 but I went ahead and I drew your pup because she's just so pretty. 742 00:39:15,436 --> 00:39:16,479 She's so happy. 743 00:39:16,562 --> 00:39:20,149 Also, I started my own dog-walking/dog-sitting business. 744 00:39:20,232 --> 00:39:22,234 So I included my info on the back. 745 00:39:22,318 --> 00:39:24,111 [WOMAN] Wow, that is so beautiful! 746 00:39:24,195 --> 00:39:26,280 - [LINDSEY] Thank you so much. - [WOMAN] Thank you! 747 00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:28,866 [ROCK MUSIC CONTINUES] 748 00:39:35,998 --> 00:39:37,792 [LINDSEY] I couldn't help but notice your dog. 749 00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:42,046 He's just so happy and he's so cute, and I kind of had to draw him. 750 00:39:42,129 --> 00:39:44,715 So I wanted to go ahead and give you this sketch. 751 00:39:44,799 --> 00:39:46,592 - Thank you! - My pleasure. 752 00:39:47,426 --> 00:39:51,180 [LINDSEY] I was able to draw four dogs in two hours, 753 00:39:51,263 --> 00:39:53,516 and that ended up being a big hit. 754 00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:56,852 If there are some trips I get stuck in, I'll definitely give you a call. 755 00:39:56,936 --> 00:39:58,646 - Thank you! - Of course! 756 00:39:58,729 --> 00:40:02,400 But the fact is most of the people need dogs covered for the weekends, 757 00:40:02,483 --> 00:40:04,527 and being in the service industry, 758 00:40:04,610 --> 00:40:07,029 that is usually when I'm scheduled the most. 759 00:40:10,116 --> 00:40:12,493 [LINDSEY] Last time we saw each other, after that, 760 00:40:12,576 --> 00:40:17,248 I made the decision to quit one of my jobs. 761 00:40:17,331 --> 00:40:21,669 While I saw myself with potential at that job at one point in time, 762 00:40:21,752 --> 00:40:23,379 it had turned into a dead-end job. 763 00:40:23,462 --> 00:40:25,131 This sounds like a breakup! 764 00:40:25,214 --> 00:40:27,675 - [BOTH LAUGH] - It does sound like a breakup! 765 00:40:27,758 --> 00:40:28,592 Uh... 766 00:40:28,676 --> 00:40:31,137 "I saw the potential, but it was turning toxic." 767 00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:32,138 [BOTH LAUGH] 768 00:40:32,221 --> 00:40:34,557 That's exactly what happened though. 769 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,352 But right now, I'm just struggling with the transition... 770 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:40,646 - Okay. All right. - ...of losing that second income. 771 00:40:43,023 --> 00:40:43,983 [DINGS] 772 00:40:44,984 --> 00:40:47,778 You don't want to be reckless with your life and your money, 773 00:40:47,862 --> 00:40:49,780 but then right there in the middle, 774 00:40:49,864 --> 00:40:53,742 in between cowardice and recklessness, that's courage. 775 00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:58,414 And that's what I see in your decision to quit the job 776 00:40:58,497 --> 00:41:02,835 that wasn't paying you enough, wasn't honoring your time and talent. 777 00:41:02,918 --> 00:41:05,421 You're making me emotional just to hear that. 778 00:41:05,504 --> 00:41:07,339 [BOTH LAUGH] 779 00:41:07,423 --> 00:41:11,969 But it is allowing me to focus on my side gigs 780 00:41:12,052 --> 00:41:16,974 and focus on what I really want to do for the rest of my life, 781 00:41:17,057 --> 00:41:19,310 getting out of the service industry. 782 00:41:19,393 --> 00:41:21,395 [UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS] 783 00:41:32,948 --> 00:41:36,702 [LINDSEY] So, I had my first art market this last Saturday. 784 00:41:38,537 --> 00:41:40,456 The prints are 20 apiece, by the way. 785 00:41:40,539 --> 00:41:42,708 [WOMAN] Okay! I love the doe one. 786 00:41:42,791 --> 00:41:46,045 - That one and the jellyfish one! So cool! - Hell yeah! 787 00:41:46,962 --> 00:41:49,673 - [WOMAN] Oh, this is gorgeous too. - [LINDSEY] Thank you. 788 00:41:50,841 --> 00:41:55,221 I took some high-quality photos of the paintings that I already made, 789 00:41:55,304 --> 00:41:59,767 and the beautiful thing about prints is if I need to recreate them, 790 00:41:59,850 --> 00:42:01,769 - I just go to the store. - [CHUCKLES] 791 00:42:01,852 --> 00:42:04,772 I already have the files that I need to print out, 792 00:42:04,855 --> 00:42:07,816 so I don't need to put in extra energy for it. 793 00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,902 - You know what the word for that is? - [LINDSEY] What? 794 00:42:09,985 --> 00:42:11,529 - Scalable. - Scalable! 795 00:42:11,612 --> 00:42:13,447 - Scalable. It's scalable. - Okay. 796 00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:17,034 You can multiply your income without multiplying your effort or time. 797 00:42:17,117 --> 00:42:19,703 {\an8}[WOMAN TALKS INDISTINCTLY] 798 00:42:20,579 --> 00:42:21,956 {\an8}[LINSEY LAUGHS] I know. 799 00:42:22,581 --> 00:42:24,124 {\an8}Do you think this is something 800 00:42:24,208 --> 00:42:27,169 I should look into making it a weekly thing? 801 00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:30,422 [PAULA] So not only should you be making this a weekly thing, 802 00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:33,676 you should also be looking at all the other ways 803 00:42:33,759 --> 00:42:35,928 that you can scale your art career. 804 00:42:36,011 --> 00:42:37,012 [LINDSEY] Okay. 805 00:42:37,096 --> 00:42:39,306 [PAULA] Look at mass-producing your prints. 806 00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:42,226 Look into creating NFTs, non-fungible tokens, 807 00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:45,312 which will allow you to sell your art digitally. 808 00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:46,480 [LINDSEY] Wonderful. 809 00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:48,232 [PAULA] For you especially, 810 00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:50,985 and for anyone whose, like, whose side hustle 811 00:42:51,652 --> 00:42:53,946 is their intended second career, 812 00:42:54,488 --> 00:42:57,449 it makes even more sense to, like, lean hard into it. 813 00:42:57,533 --> 00:42:58,450 Okay. 814 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:02,371 [PAULA] There's no blueprint for building out your business 815 00:43:02,454 --> 00:43:03,747 from the ground up. 816 00:43:04,373 --> 00:43:08,419 Lindsey's making great progress, but she also quit her waitressing job. 817 00:43:09,336 --> 00:43:11,005 So she quickly needs to figure out 818 00:43:11,088 --> 00:43:13,716 which of these new gigs is gonna bring in the most money. 819 00:43:17,052 --> 00:43:18,971 [TEEZ] Hey, you think it's gonna be cold up there? 820 00:43:19,054 --> 00:43:20,264 You think I need a jacket? 821 00:43:20,889 --> 00:43:22,266 - [WOMAN] Yeah. - [GIRL MUMBLES] 822 00:43:22,349 --> 00:43:24,351 - [TEEZ] For real? - [WOMAN] We gotta help Daddy pack! 823 00:43:24,435 --> 00:43:25,686 Where is Daddy going? 824 00:43:27,771 --> 00:43:29,398 You got socks. 825 00:43:29,481 --> 00:43:30,482 [GIRL] Yeah, yeah! 826 00:43:30,566 --> 00:43:31,817 [TEEZ] You silly. 827 00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:35,279 After I broke my foot, I ended up getting on it back healthy, 828 00:43:35,362 --> 00:43:36,697 and Chicago called me. 829 00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:39,867 Oh, you packing your princesses for Daddy. Good job. 830 00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:42,328 Now they invited me to training camp. 831 00:43:42,411 --> 00:43:46,457 Basically, training camp is a trial. For me, it's to try to make the team. 832 00:43:46,957 --> 00:43:49,251 Ninety people get invited to training camp, 833 00:43:49,335 --> 00:43:50,919 and they going to take the best 53. 834 00:43:53,547 --> 00:43:54,757 Ro$$ was just telling me. 835 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,386 One, I got to start taking this financial stuff serious 836 00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,597 'cause I don't know how to do anything else. 837 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,267 And two, I need to get on my grind because right now, 838 00:44:05,351 --> 00:44:07,019 there's no money coming in. 839 00:44:07,102 --> 00:44:09,104 {\an8}[TENSE MUSIC PLAYS] 840 00:44:09,772 --> 00:44:12,024 {\an8}He brought me back down to earth. "Okay. 841 00:44:12,107 --> 00:44:16,236 If I don't do those two things, then they can look real scary real soon." 842 00:44:22,034 --> 00:44:24,745 - [MAN TALKS INDISTINCTLY] - [WHISTLE BLOWS] 843 00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:30,709 [RO$$] My man being at training camp is end all or be all. 844 00:44:30,793 --> 00:44:32,336 From a financial pressure. 845 00:44:33,462 --> 00:44:36,840 I'm tellin' Teez, "Bro, if you wanna continue to live your lifestyle, 846 00:44:36,924 --> 00:44:38,258 you gotta make the team." 847 00:44:40,094 --> 00:44:41,512 At the same time, I'm like, 848 00:44:41,595 --> 00:44:43,889 "Bro, assume you don't make the squad, what're we doing?" 849 00:44:45,265 --> 00:44:48,477 So you been lookin' good in terms of setting up the brokerage account? 850 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,480 Yeah, I set it up, but I was a little... 851 00:44:51,980 --> 00:44:55,526 I ain't putting no money in there yet. It was a little frightening. 852 00:44:55,609 --> 00:45:01,365 It was a bunch of numbers, and I seen Nasdaq, Apple, S&P 500. 853 00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:04,576 0.3%, I don't know. I ain't do nothing yet. 854 00:45:04,660 --> 00:45:06,161 I set it up, but I ain't get too far. 855 00:45:06,245 --> 00:45:07,079 [RO$$] That's a fact. 856 00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:11,875 {\an8}Now most people be scared, you know what I mean? 857 00:45:11,959 --> 00:45:14,378 But, you know, we wanna make sure you get over that. 858 00:45:14,461 --> 00:45:18,215 - Right. - Take your investing virginity. Let's go. 859 00:45:18,298 --> 00:45:22,970 So the best step that we're going to do is obviously buy two index funds, right? 860 00:45:23,053 --> 00:45:26,974 So you got the S&P 500, and we're going to do the Nasdaq, right? 861 00:45:27,057 --> 00:45:29,268 So how much you say you want to start with? 862 00:45:29,351 --> 00:45:30,728 - [RO$$] If I'm you? - Yeah. 863 00:45:30,811 --> 00:45:33,981 I'm starting with ten racks, then you'll hold it. I ain't gonna lie. 864 00:45:34,064 --> 00:45:37,443 I'mma just start with 1,000 just to get my feet wet. 865 00:45:37,526 --> 00:45:41,905 Get your feet wet! If it were me, I'd be putting another zero on that boy! 866 00:45:41,989 --> 00:45:44,742 - You tryin' to get me some money! - And you're gonna hold it. 867 00:45:44,825 --> 00:45:46,827 - So now, here's the thing. Right? - Mm-hmm. 868 00:45:47,369 --> 00:45:50,330 - And if I'm you, in all honesty, right? - [TEEZ] Okay. 869 00:45:50,414 --> 00:45:53,292 The biggest thing is this frequency button. 870 00:45:53,375 --> 00:45:56,170 Now I'm recommending setting it up monthly. 871 00:45:56,253 --> 00:45:57,880 You won't have to think about it. 872 00:45:57,963 --> 00:46:00,424 - [TEEZ] I should put it every month. - [RO$$] Yeah, I would. 873 00:46:00,507 --> 00:46:04,303 Just like every month, you paying the car note or the mortgage payments, 874 00:46:04,386 --> 00:46:08,307 you pay your e-trade next, or actually you pay your e-trade first. 875 00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:10,976 So when you say, "Man, I just want to get my feet wet" 876 00:46:11,059 --> 00:46:13,228 and only put a stack in, 1,000, 877 00:46:13,312 --> 00:46:15,939 what's making you say I don't want to put a lot more in? 878 00:46:16,023 --> 00:46:19,735 Uh, 'cause I don't... It's new, you know what I'm saying? 879 00:46:19,818 --> 00:46:24,281 It's so new that I don't want to... I guess I don't want to fail or mess up. 880 00:46:24,364 --> 00:46:25,199 Mm-hmm. 881 00:46:25,282 --> 00:46:27,785 Most people are going to be hesitant to do something 882 00:46:27,868 --> 00:46:31,497 when they don't know much about it. They think, "I might lose money." 883 00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:36,001 But when you really realize you losing money by not doing it, 884 00:46:36,084 --> 00:46:37,795 it's really the biggest like... 885 00:46:38,295 --> 00:46:43,091 Your bank account probably is gonna give you, if you lucky, .06%. 886 00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:44,885 - So in other words, no money. - None. 887 00:46:44,968 --> 00:46:48,263 By holding your money purely, right, 888 00:46:48,347 --> 00:46:52,559 you're losing the value of your money because of something called inflation. 889 00:46:52,643 --> 00:46:56,605 And what I mean by inflation is the rising prices of goods over time. 890 00:46:57,648 --> 00:47:00,692 Remember when we was kids, bro? We could literally go to the corner store 891 00:47:00,776 --> 00:47:02,069 with a dollar, right? 892 00:47:02,152 --> 00:47:03,737 We could get four bags of chips. 893 00:47:03,821 --> 00:47:07,241 We could get some penny candy. We could get 50-cent Zebra Cakes, right? 894 00:47:07,324 --> 00:47:08,867 Now with that same dollar, 895 00:47:08,951 --> 00:47:12,496 bro, you lucky to get one bag of chips and a ten-cent bag to put it in. 896 00:47:14,122 --> 00:47:16,375 So the price of everything will go up. 897 00:47:16,458 --> 00:47:18,627 So it's like, okay, how can I ensure 898 00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:20,754 that my money still going to be able to purchase 899 00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:22,548 what I want to be able to purchase? 900 00:47:22,631 --> 00:47:25,050 The only way you do that is by investing. 901 00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:32,641 [TENSE MUSIC PLAYS] 902 00:47:34,184 --> 00:47:36,395 [TEEZ] If I would've did what I was supposed to do 903 00:47:36,895 --> 00:47:40,065 with the money I had when I first got drafted, 904 00:47:40,941 --> 00:47:43,193 it might be a different story for me right now, 905 00:47:43,277 --> 00:47:47,197 just because my financial situation would've been more smoother than it is. 906 00:47:51,034 --> 00:47:53,412 [COMMENTATOR] As we get closer to roster cut-down day, 907 00:47:53,495 --> 00:47:56,832 we'll keep a close eye on all of the big moves the Bears might make. 908 00:47:56,915 --> 00:47:59,585 Every year, the 53-man roster cut-down day 909 00:47:59,668 --> 00:48:02,045 always brings some pretty big surprises. 910 00:48:02,129 --> 00:48:05,674 Overall it feels like the 53's relatively set. 911 00:48:05,757 --> 00:48:10,846 So at this point, it's just a matter of waiting things out. 912 00:48:12,556 --> 00:48:13,682 Hey, Mama. 913 00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:16,226 What are you doing, Daddy? 914 00:48:16,935 --> 00:48:18,896 Daddy's chillin'. Daddy just got off work. 915 00:48:18,979 --> 00:48:20,939 [WOMAN] So, any... any word? 916 00:48:21,023 --> 00:48:23,275 [INHALES DEEPLY] No, not yet. 917 00:48:23,358 --> 00:48:25,444 I should know something before Labor Day. 918 00:48:25,986 --> 00:48:26,862 [WOMAN] Okay. 919 00:48:26,945 --> 00:48:30,991 [TEEZ] Now that I'm 25, hopefully by the time I'm 45, 920 00:48:31,074 --> 00:48:32,743 that same energy, 921 00:48:32,826 --> 00:48:36,371 that same knowledge, that same passion I put into football, 922 00:48:36,455 --> 00:48:39,458 if I can get my stocks and my investments 923 00:48:39,541 --> 00:48:42,836 and my financial stuff straight from 25 to 45, 924 00:48:43,629 --> 00:48:45,422 at 45, I should be set up. 925 00:48:45,505 --> 00:48:48,175 [WOMAN AND GIRL TALK INDISTINCTLY] 926 00:48:57,809 --> 00:48:59,895 - [EXHALES] - [COMPUTER CHIMES] 927 00:49:00,479 --> 00:49:01,480 [ARIANA] Hi! 928 00:49:01,563 --> 00:49:03,231 Hi, Ariana! How are you? 929 00:49:03,315 --> 00:49:04,691 Good. How are you? 930 00:49:04,775 --> 00:49:05,943 {\an8}I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. 931 00:49:06,026 --> 00:49:08,987 {\an8}How's the homework going? Like, you know, talk to me. 932 00:49:09,071 --> 00:49:11,740 The homework, I think, went well. 933 00:49:12,407 --> 00:49:15,118 {\an8}The separate accounts has been really, really helpful so far 934 00:49:15,202 --> 00:49:16,912 {\an8}because I don't have to think about anything. 935 00:49:17,496 --> 00:49:20,582 The minute my check is released, it goes into these different funnels 936 00:49:20,666 --> 00:49:22,584 and, like, I only carry the card 937 00:49:22,668 --> 00:49:25,212 that is associated with my spending account. 938 00:49:25,295 --> 00:49:28,090 {\an8}So, any more major or even minor changes 939 00:49:28,173 --> 00:49:31,009 {\an8}that you found yourself making as it relates to your money? 940 00:49:32,094 --> 00:49:34,930 The "need it, love it, like it, want it," um, 941 00:49:35,013 --> 00:49:39,393 {\an8}has that made me... stop a purchase? 942 00:49:40,268 --> 00:49:44,022 {\an8}I don't think so, but it's making me pause at least. 943 00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:48,151 {\an8}The fact that you are celebrating the awareness, 944 00:49:48,235 --> 00:49:50,862 {\an8}you know, I'm proud of you. I know we have a lot of work to do, 945 00:49:50,946 --> 00:49:54,199 {\an8}and we're going to get to it, but you're doing it! You're doing it. 946 00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:56,118 {\an8}- I promise you, you are. - Thanks. 947 00:49:56,201 --> 00:50:00,747 {\an8}[SAD MUSIC PLAYS] 948 00:50:02,207 --> 00:50:04,001 {\an8}[ARIANA] I know I'm making progress, 949 00:50:04,084 --> 00:50:07,838 and I know that I'm working my butt off to pay off all this credit card debt. 950 00:50:09,214 --> 00:50:13,010 At its peak, I think it was like $65,000. 951 00:50:14,136 --> 00:50:16,138 I feel like I'm like halfway done. 952 00:50:16,638 --> 00:50:19,558 I'll put that right there. Actually, it's perfect. It fits. 953 00:50:20,684 --> 00:50:24,062 But I still hold so much guilt and shame over it. 954 00:50:26,565 --> 00:50:29,401 Getting over those feelings, 955 00:50:30,694 --> 00:50:34,698 I think, is where I need to... to focus on almost, 956 00:50:36,324 --> 00:50:38,827 because that's where I feel the most stuck. 957 00:50:41,496 --> 00:50:44,291 [TIFFANY] Shame is one of the worst emotions because it doesn't say, 958 00:50:44,374 --> 00:50:46,209 "You made a mistake." 959 00:50:46,293 --> 00:50:47,753 It says, "You are a mistake." 960 00:50:47,836 --> 00:50:51,757 And it keeps you in bondage. It shields you from solutions. 961 00:50:56,011 --> 00:50:59,222 If you are constantly afraid of your money, 962 00:51:00,265 --> 00:51:04,186 {\an8}that is going to negatively affect the way you navigate with money. 963 00:51:06,104 --> 00:51:09,357 {\an8}If you are someone who has this awesome money mindset 964 00:51:09,441 --> 00:51:11,151 {\an8}of abundance and growth, 965 00:51:11,818 --> 00:51:15,322 {\an8}then that is going to affect the way your money shows up in your life. 966 00:51:16,281 --> 00:51:20,202 Your money will never do better than what your mindset will allow. 967 00:51:20,952 --> 00:51:22,954 I got you! [MIMICS WATER SPLASH] 968 00:51:24,122 --> 00:51:26,750 [ARIANA] It makes me feel like a bad partner, 969 00:51:27,793 --> 00:51:29,211 like a bad mom, 970 00:51:29,753 --> 00:51:31,296 that my past decisions 971 00:51:32,130 --> 00:51:34,174 are affecting my family so much. 972 00:51:38,178 --> 00:51:41,973 The fact that I'm paying more than $2,000 a month in debt is ridiculous. 973 00:51:42,057 --> 00:51:44,059 It's half of my take-home pay. 974 00:51:46,978 --> 00:51:49,397 There's so many experiences I want to give my kids 975 00:51:49,481 --> 00:51:50,899 that I'm not able to. 976 00:51:53,527 --> 00:51:55,904 And you work so hard, and you're trying... 977 00:51:59,241 --> 00:52:01,576 to make like a better life for your family. 978 00:52:04,121 --> 00:52:07,999 If I didn't have these huge debt payments, 979 00:52:09,334 --> 00:52:11,670 there'd just be a lot more flexibility. 980 00:52:12,671 --> 00:52:14,840 Si! Si! Yeah! 981 00:52:15,507 --> 00:52:16,341 Oh, she's ready... 982 00:52:16,424 --> 00:52:19,928 We would be able to afford a house with, you know, four bedrooms. 983 00:52:20,011 --> 00:52:21,555 You know, something as simple as that. 984 00:52:23,473 --> 00:52:25,183 - [KID] Bye! - [MAN] Bye! 985 00:52:25,267 --> 00:52:28,061 [ARIANA] My husband probably wouldn't have to work overtime every week. 986 00:52:28,145 --> 00:52:29,521 Say "Bye, Papi!" 987 00:52:31,064 --> 00:52:35,318 And I'm living on a month-to-month basis with the fear that my car will break down. 988 00:52:38,113 --> 00:52:40,365 There's like, 140,000 miles on it. 989 00:52:40,448 --> 00:52:43,034 - [CAR ENGINE STARTS] - [CAR BEEPS] 990 00:52:43,118 --> 00:52:45,412 If my car were to break down, 991 00:52:47,455 --> 00:52:50,083 I don't know how we would buy another one. 992 00:52:54,629 --> 00:52:55,505 Yeah. 993 00:53:00,093 --> 00:53:02,721 [CAR ENGINE REVVING] 994 00:53:06,224 --> 00:53:07,475 [JOHN] Oh! 995 00:53:10,437 --> 00:53:14,941 So we are at the Costco parking lot in beautiful park-like Superior, Colorado, 996 00:53:15,775 --> 00:53:17,319 and I'm kinda excited to meet John here. 997 00:53:17,402 --> 00:53:19,613 See if we could teach this young man how to grocery shop. 998 00:53:20,989 --> 00:53:24,075 He wasn't familiar with Costco, so he was comparing everything 999 00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:26,494 to their previous levels of spending. 1000 00:53:27,162 --> 00:53:28,955 This is half the cost of what we usually get, 1001 00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:30,498 but we'll have to grind it ourselves. 1002 00:53:30,582 --> 00:53:31,833 That makes it better. 1003 00:53:32,334 --> 00:53:35,462 That is significantly cheaper than a shredded bag. 1004 00:53:38,924 --> 00:53:41,384 [PETE] I think we did a $400 shopping trip there, 1005 00:53:41,468 --> 00:53:45,972 but it's the equivalent of $800 to $1,000 of their previous grocery spending. 1006 00:53:46,056 --> 00:53:47,724 I want this one! 1007 00:53:47,807 --> 00:53:50,227 [JOHN] I don't know if we need these dog toys. 1008 00:53:50,310 --> 00:53:51,645 [GIRL LAUGHS] 1009 00:53:51,728 --> 00:53:52,854 [JOHN] What did you find? 1010 00:53:53,939 --> 00:53:56,816 [PETE] The basic idea is bulk pricing, 1011 00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:58,777 which means lower markups. 1012 00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:01,571 So, really, it's cutting your cost per calorie. 1013 00:54:01,655 --> 00:54:05,242 It's also allowing you to make bigger meals for your family super cheap. 1014 00:54:08,203 --> 00:54:09,079 [JOHN] Thank you! 1015 00:54:11,998 --> 00:54:14,793 So, uh, how do you think we're doing so far 1016 00:54:14,876 --> 00:54:19,714 with us being, like, you know, a couple months into our little program 1017 00:54:19,798 --> 00:54:21,716 of trying to optimize your life? 1018 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,553 We think that we cut about $3,000. 1019 00:54:30,016 --> 00:54:35,772 So $3,000 per month is now cut off of your expected future budget? 1020 00:54:35,855 --> 00:54:36,815 - Yeah. - Yes. 1021 00:54:36,898 --> 00:54:39,150 Now if you really did that, that's... that's pretty serious 1022 00:54:39,234 --> 00:54:42,862 'cause that's like an entire family's budget... 1023 00:54:42,946 --> 00:54:44,990 - Very true. - ...is now shaved off of your budget. 1024 00:54:45,073 --> 00:54:47,617 - Yeah. - We dropped groceries down to $1,000. 1025 00:54:47,701 --> 00:54:51,121 Basically the Amazon shopping fell to $168. 1026 00:54:51,204 --> 00:54:54,165 - That's quite a drop. - Yeah, it was quite a drop. 1027 00:54:54,249 --> 00:54:56,835 Dining and drinks, we didn't go out as much. 1028 00:54:56,918 --> 00:55:00,088 Presumably, this surplus is going somewhere into investments. 1029 00:55:00,171 --> 00:55:02,632 So yeah, index fund, stock investments. 1030 00:55:02,716 --> 00:55:03,591 Yeah. 1031 00:55:03,675 --> 00:55:08,054 So have you felt it's been like a harmonious process as a couple, 1032 00:55:08,138 --> 00:55:11,141 or have you felt some of the typical stress? 1033 00:55:11,224 --> 00:55:14,352 Um, has it been a uniting or a dividing force? 1034 00:55:14,978 --> 00:55:17,272 - Ultimately uniting. - [BOTH LAUGH] 1035 00:55:17,355 --> 00:55:19,566 But yeah, for sure, dividing a little bit. 1036 00:55:19,649 --> 00:55:22,319 There was that solid week there. 1037 00:55:22,986 --> 00:55:26,281 - Where I went into food-saver mode. - Yeah. 1038 00:55:27,198 --> 00:55:30,368 Where you're like, "Everything in the fridge has to be eaten," 1039 00:55:30,452 --> 00:55:33,038 but it definitely stirred up some conflict. 1040 00:55:34,831 --> 00:55:37,834 [PETE] Frugality is sometimes a dirty word in the United States, 1041 00:55:37,917 --> 00:55:41,588 but the idea is that a millionaire is made $10 at a time. 1042 00:55:41,671 --> 00:55:47,510 $10 are like bricks in your castle of becoming a millionaire. 1043 00:55:47,594 --> 00:55:50,305 Eventually, the idea of that is just to discourage people 1044 00:55:50,388 --> 00:55:52,015 from just making impulse purchases. 1045 00:55:52,098 --> 00:55:54,017 {\an8}Like, "Oh, I'm walking past an ice cream stand 1046 00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:56,644 {\an8}so I'll just buy a couple ice cream cones for $10." 1047 00:55:56,728 --> 00:55:58,897 That can happen four times a day. 1048 00:55:58,980 --> 00:56:02,734 So $40 a day becomes $10,000 over a year, 1049 00:56:02,817 --> 00:56:04,944 just vaporized with nothing to show for it. 1050 00:56:06,404 --> 00:56:10,200 So have you gotten into any spreadsheet projections, 1051 00:56:10,283 --> 00:56:12,869 where you could have enough to be financially independent? 1052 00:56:12,952 --> 00:56:15,330 I made a spreadsheet based on what you were telling me, 1053 00:56:15,413 --> 00:56:19,376 where the 25 X your annual spending 1054 00:56:19,459 --> 00:56:21,252 is your FIRE number. 1055 00:56:22,879 --> 00:56:25,215 [PETE] Lots of people are using the term FIRE, 1056 00:56:25,298 --> 00:56:28,968 which stands for "financial independence retire early." 1057 00:56:29,052 --> 00:56:31,554 For me, I just call it early retirement. 1058 00:56:31,638 --> 00:56:36,226 The FIRE number just means how much invested money do you need 1059 00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:38,561 to fund your desired lifestyle? 1060 00:56:38,645 --> 00:56:42,315 {\an8}So your main idea is you would like to have a retirement budget 1061 00:56:42,399 --> 00:56:46,361 {\an8}of $9,000 per month, right? 1062 00:56:46,444 --> 00:56:49,197 {\an8}- Yeah. - Which is, times 12, $108,000 a year. 1063 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,115 {\an8}[JOHN] Mm-hmm. 1064 00:56:50,198 --> 00:56:54,536 {\an8}If you multiply that by 25, you'd need a little over, uh, 2 million, 1065 00:56:54,619 --> 00:56:56,329 {\an8}- 2.5 million dollars... - Yeah. 1066 00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:57,956 {\an8}...of investments to cover that. 1067 00:56:58,039 --> 00:57:02,085 How long would it take you to save up to that level 1068 00:57:02,168 --> 00:57:05,755 under your current plan of earning and spending? 1069 00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:08,508 By 2042. 1070 00:57:08,591 --> 00:57:12,762 {\an8}So Year 21, we would hit our FIRE number. 1071 00:57:14,139 --> 00:57:17,267 {\an8}[PETE] I see. So you're thinking it would be 21 years... 1072 00:57:17,350 --> 00:57:19,727 {\an8}- Yeah. - ...until financial independence. 1073 00:57:19,811 --> 00:57:22,480 - Which is not an early retirement. - Yeah, but this it not... 1074 00:57:22,564 --> 00:57:24,732 - [LAUGHS] It is not an early retirement. - [LAUGHS] No. 1075 00:57:24,816 --> 00:57:26,860 But if I continue to grow my business, 1076 00:57:26,943 --> 00:57:30,363 and I really hustled for the next five years, 1077 00:57:30,447 --> 00:57:34,909 like, we could... we found that we could retire in like, five years. 1078 00:57:34,993 --> 00:57:36,786 - [JOHN] Yeah. - [KIM] It really just depends on 1079 00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:39,205 how much we want to hustle 1080 00:57:39,289 --> 00:57:42,500 versus, like, create time for our family. 1081 00:57:43,376 --> 00:57:45,336 How we want to spend our money, all of that. 1082 00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:47,881 If you make a big change, we'll adjust the spreadsheet, 1083 00:57:47,964 --> 00:57:49,215 and then stuff'll look better. 1084 00:57:49,299 --> 00:57:50,467 - [KIM] Great. - Yeah. 1085 00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:51,968 [UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS] 1086 00:57:52,051 --> 00:57:54,512 - Oh, nice foot pedal! - [BOY] Yeah. 1087 00:57:54,596 --> 00:57:56,014 [PETE] I think the only roadblock 1088 00:57:56,097 --> 00:57:59,809 is that they still have quite a high baseline of spending 1089 00:57:59,893 --> 00:58:01,436 even after making some changes. 1090 00:58:02,395 --> 00:58:03,354 You got this! 1091 00:58:03,855 --> 00:58:06,191 [PETE] Like they still spend about twice 1092 00:58:06,274 --> 00:58:08,943 what I would think is a reasonable maximum 1093 00:58:09,027 --> 00:58:10,403 for a family of four. 1094 00:58:10,987 --> 00:58:14,073 I kind of wish we could get them a little more hardcore. 1095 00:58:16,326 --> 00:58:18,328 [UPBEAT MUSIC ENDS] 1096 00:58:26,085 --> 00:58:27,545 [EXHALES] 1097 00:58:29,005 --> 00:58:29,881 [INHALES] 1098 00:58:30,632 --> 00:58:35,094 So, I know that I had mentioned to everyone previously 1099 00:58:35,929 --> 00:58:38,431 I struggle with anxiety and depression. 1100 00:58:38,515 --> 00:58:41,476 [SAD MUSIC PLAYS] 1101 00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:45,980 I don't know why I get like this. 1102 00:58:46,064 --> 00:58:50,985 I don't know why I get all excited about things at first, 1103 00:58:51,069 --> 00:58:54,781 and it seems so possible, and I was making such good progress. 1104 00:58:54,864 --> 00:58:57,158 And then something... [SOBS] 1105 00:58:57,242 --> 00:58:59,244 ...just tells me I'm not good enough. 1106 00:59:02,121 --> 00:59:05,792 [INHALES] And that's one of the main reasons that 1107 00:59:07,043 --> 00:59:09,671 I really, really want to get health insurance 1108 00:59:09,754 --> 00:59:14,509 and get myself someone I can talk to because I found that the only thing 1109 00:59:14,592 --> 00:59:19,639 that really helps, um, is having consistent therapy. 1110 00:59:22,725 --> 00:59:24,811 Right now, it's really hard to tell 1111 00:59:25,687 --> 00:59:31,442 what are legitimate money worries and what is just in my head. 1112 00:59:38,449 --> 00:59:42,495 [SPORTSCASTER 1] The Chicago Bears' 53-man roster is set! 1113 00:59:42,579 --> 00:59:46,457 [SPORTSCASTER 2] Right now, Teez Tabor is weak and slow. Not a good look for... 1114 00:59:46,541 --> 00:59:48,501 [SPORTSCASTER 3] Teez Tabor cannot play cornerback. 1115 00:59:48,585 --> 00:59:50,169 Certainly can't play it in the system... 1116 00:59:50,253 --> 00:59:51,921 [SPORTSCASTER 4] Teez Tabor bounced around. 1117 00:59:52,005 --> 00:59:54,799 Now he sticks around with the Bears on the practice squad. 1118 00:59:56,050 --> 00:59:58,553 [SCREEN CHIMES] 1119 01:00:05,435 --> 01:00:06,519 [EXHALES] 1120 01:00:07,604 --> 01:00:09,272 [BREATHES DEEPLY] 1121 01:00:09,355 --> 01:00:12,150 Just got back from, uh, the facility. 1122 01:00:12,734 --> 01:00:14,485 Got some good and bad news. 1123 01:00:15,028 --> 01:00:18,072 Feelin' a little bummed about the news. Um... 1124 01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:24,454 I didn't make the 53-man roster, but they want me back on practice squad. 1125 01:00:25,371 --> 01:00:26,873 So it's good and bad. 1126 01:00:26,956 --> 01:00:29,000 Um, not feeling too good 1127 01:00:29,083 --> 01:00:31,961 about, you know, the position that I'm in right now, 1128 01:00:32,045 --> 01:00:35,423 but there's more opportunity out there for me, 1129 01:00:35,506 --> 01:00:37,258 so just gotta keep grinding. 1130 01:00:43,056 --> 01:00:45,433 Okay, so this is going to be a really quick update 1131 01:00:45,516 --> 01:00:49,395 because so much has happened and I'm in the middle of work. Um... 1132 01:00:50,271 --> 01:00:55,193 [CLICKS TONGUE] So... my car broke down yesterday. 1133 01:00:58,363 --> 01:00:59,572 Andrew's currently... 1134 01:00:59,656 --> 01:01:00,865 Thank God he's a mechanic. 1135 01:01:00,948 --> 01:01:02,742 He's currently working on it. 1136 01:01:02,825 --> 01:01:05,036 He has bought me a new alternator, 1137 01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:07,580 a new radiator, a new battery. 1138 01:01:08,706 --> 01:01:12,251 All I was thinking is that I hope that it's fixable. 1139 01:01:12,335 --> 01:01:13,336 [CAR ENGINE STARTS] 1140 01:01:13,419 --> 01:01:14,921 - [ANDREW] Done! - Thank you! 1141 01:01:15,004 --> 01:01:17,590 'Cause I can't afford a car payment right now 1142 01:01:17,674 --> 01:01:20,426 and I don't have enough money saved up to buy a car outright. 1143 01:01:30,228 --> 01:01:31,396 [SIGHS] Okay. 1144 01:01:32,188 --> 01:01:36,067 More updates about things. 1145 01:01:37,068 --> 01:01:39,237 I think we, like, landed in this process 1146 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,614 at a really transitional point in our lives 1147 01:01:41,698 --> 01:01:44,534 where we're going from struggling to save 1148 01:01:44,617 --> 01:01:47,412 to finally getting to a place where we might actually save money. 1149 01:01:47,995 --> 01:01:50,873 You know what I would love to have is like a conservative... 1150 01:01:51,958 --> 01:01:53,751 - [JOHN] Yeah. - ...or best-case scenario. 1151 01:01:53,835 --> 01:01:58,464 Yeah, if we do that, then we still have to save 136. 1152 01:01:58,548 --> 01:02:01,467 You're supposed to be saving 50% of your income 1153 01:02:01,551 --> 01:02:03,469 if you want to retire early, 1154 01:02:03,553 --> 01:02:05,888 but we're not coming anywhere close to that. 1155 01:02:05,972 --> 01:02:08,725 So that feels like a huge challenge for us. 1156 01:02:22,572 --> 01:02:27,285 [LINDSEY] I'd be lying if I said I no longer got down on myself sometimes. 1157 01:02:28,077 --> 01:02:32,498 Adjusting to being my own boss and that mental shift 1158 01:02:32,582 --> 01:02:34,876 has been a lot for me. 1159 01:02:34,959 --> 01:02:39,964 However, if and when I do get in these modes again, 1160 01:02:40,047 --> 01:02:43,926 I reassure myself, "Look, you were able to make this happen." 1161 01:02:44,010 --> 01:02:47,054 "There's no reason that you can't do what's ahead of you." 1162 01:02:51,267 --> 01:02:52,101 [PAULA] All right. 1163 01:02:52,810 --> 01:02:53,895 How's the hustle? 1164 01:02:53,978 --> 01:02:55,813 Where do I even start? 1165 01:02:55,897 --> 01:02:58,399 The major one that I'm super excited about 1166 01:02:58,483 --> 01:03:01,652 - was signing a deal to do a mural project. - Uh-huh. 1167 01:03:02,945 --> 01:03:06,657 [LINDSEY] So it's 11, uh, concrete pylons, 1168 01:03:06,741 --> 01:03:10,328 and they want me to paint an abstract background 1169 01:03:10,411 --> 01:03:13,915 and then paint characters on all of the pylons. 1170 01:03:13,998 --> 01:03:16,417 - [PAULA] Eleven? That's a big project! - [LINDSEY] It is! 1171 01:03:16,501 --> 01:03:21,506 And because it's a big project, I drafted out an entire plan 1172 01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:24,383 of how much materials were gonna cost. 1173 01:03:24,467 --> 01:03:28,721 I did my research, and I looked into how much mural artists make. 1174 01:03:28,805 --> 01:03:32,266 So, I was able to get my bosses to agree to 3,500. 1175 01:03:32,350 --> 01:03:33,351 - Wow. - [LINDSEY] Yeah. 1176 01:03:33,434 --> 01:03:34,435 It's not bad at all. 1177 01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:37,855 I could definitely see myself doing this professionally. 1178 01:03:38,815 --> 01:03:41,150 And when I think about it, that's one of the reasons 1179 01:03:41,234 --> 01:03:45,571 that I moved to Austin in the first place. I fell in love with Austin's murals. 1180 01:03:45,655 --> 01:03:48,366 So I thought, you know, maybe one day I can figure out 1181 01:03:48,449 --> 01:03:52,703 how to make it into this business, and it's finally happening. 1182 01:03:52,787 --> 01:03:53,996 [PAULA] That's awesome! 1183 01:03:54,872 --> 01:03:57,667 So the other big thing, um, 1184 01:03:57,750 --> 01:04:01,379 one of my regulars at work, he owns his own independent fashion company. 1185 01:04:01,462 --> 01:04:04,298 And he hasn't been able to keep up with the demand. 1186 01:04:04,382 --> 01:04:06,884 I was serving him beer, then I lean in and I go, 1187 01:04:07,385 --> 01:04:09,554 "You know I went to fashion school, right?" 1188 01:04:10,847 --> 01:04:13,599 - [MAN] Hey! What's up? Good to see you. - Hey! Good to see you. 1189 01:04:14,183 --> 01:04:16,853 [MAN] We've got some really awesome stuff that we're working on. 1190 01:04:16,936 --> 01:04:20,439 We've been assembling and doing, uh, the jackets and whatnot. 1191 01:04:21,315 --> 01:04:23,442 We have these right here for you you can start on. 1192 01:04:23,526 --> 01:04:24,360 Okay. 1193 01:04:25,695 --> 01:04:27,947 I started crying a little bit because I realized 1194 01:04:28,030 --> 01:04:32,493 I'm finally doing something with the skills I went to school for. 1195 01:04:32,577 --> 01:04:35,913 So I really see a future with this company. 1196 01:04:36,497 --> 01:04:39,333 - Complete that. I'll set this here. - Appreciate it. 1197 01:04:41,043 --> 01:04:43,838 [PAULA] The mindset that you have where you're like, 1198 01:04:43,921 --> 01:04:47,466 "I'm surrounded by opportunity." "I'm surrounded by abundance." 1199 01:04:47,550 --> 01:04:51,429 That mentality speaks a lot to the success that you've had. 1200 01:04:51,512 --> 01:04:54,348 [LINDSEY] You've really got me into this hustler mentality and I love it. 1201 01:04:54,432 --> 01:04:58,686 I feel like I'm always networking. I'm always looking for opportunities now. 1202 01:04:58,769 --> 01:05:00,354 - [PAULA] Awesome. - [LINDSEY] Yeah. 1203 01:05:03,733 --> 01:05:04,692 {\an8}[DINGS] 1204 01:05:04,775 --> 01:05:07,153 {\an8}How is your side hustle income adding up? 1205 01:05:07,695 --> 01:05:11,073 So, with the mural project that I've started, 1206 01:05:11,157 --> 01:05:13,451 - I got 35% down... - Mm-hmm. 1207 01:05:13,534 --> 01:05:17,538 ...so I add that up with the things that I got from the market. 1208 01:05:18,456 --> 01:05:21,959 And I keep getting dog-sitting stuff, just sporadically. 1209 01:05:22,043 --> 01:05:26,547 - [PAULA] Yeah. - [LINDSEY] And I've saved about 2,800. 1210 01:05:26,631 --> 01:05:27,882 [PAULA] Wow, that's amazing. 1211 01:05:28,466 --> 01:05:29,383 That's amazing. 1212 01:05:29,467 --> 01:05:32,762 [LINDSEY] I can't remember the last time I had this much money saved up. 1213 01:05:32,845 --> 01:05:35,932 I know it's a small amount, but it's more the principle of, 1214 01:05:36,015 --> 01:05:37,808 "I was able to get to this point." 1215 01:05:37,892 --> 01:05:40,770 Your creative career is, like, growing. 1216 01:05:40,853 --> 01:05:44,649 You know, just from the beginning of this journey to now, it's... Pssh! 1217 01:05:45,691 --> 01:05:49,445 There's Lindsey Incorporated, and that's your business, 1218 01:05:49,528 --> 01:05:52,490 and then there's Lindsey the individual, and that's you. 1219 01:05:52,573 --> 01:05:55,117 - So here is my suggestion. - Okay. 1220 01:05:55,201 --> 01:05:57,370 Open a brand-new bank account 1221 01:05:57,453 --> 01:06:00,706 that's automated specifically for all of your business income. 1222 01:06:00,790 --> 01:06:05,002 Everything that comes in through all of your creative career projects, 1223 01:06:05,586 --> 01:06:08,047 have it go directly to that bank account. 1224 01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:12,051 When it's time to file your taxes, it'll be easier to spot deductions. 1225 01:06:12,134 --> 01:06:16,889 It puts Lindsey Incorporated in a position to grow financially, 1226 01:06:16,973 --> 01:06:20,601 and it makes you legit from a lending and credit perspective. 1227 01:06:20,685 --> 01:06:23,562 And imagine billing one of your new mural clients 1228 01:06:23,646 --> 01:06:24,897 from a business account. 1229 01:06:24,981 --> 01:06:28,192 It gives you instant credibility as an entrepreneur. 1230 01:06:28,901 --> 01:06:31,112 That's, like, step one 1231 01:06:31,195 --> 01:06:34,824 of growing something that is going to be bigger than just you. 1232 01:06:34,907 --> 01:06:36,117 That's so exciting. 1233 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,202 [UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS] 1234 01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:45,292 [LINDSAY] To me, what it means to be finally doing something with art, 1235 01:06:45,376 --> 01:06:47,169 and this may sound hokey, 1236 01:06:47,253 --> 01:06:51,007 but it feels like something I was meant to do. 1237 01:06:51,716 --> 01:06:55,386 It can be an uphill battle, but I feel like I've got a good start. 1238 01:06:55,970 --> 01:06:59,974 I can see me doing these things for a long time, 1239 01:07:00,057 --> 01:07:03,519 and after a while, it is going to start adding up. 1240 01:07:05,229 --> 01:07:08,482 And that in itself is the most gratifying thing in the world. 1241 01:07:13,154 --> 01:07:14,905 [UPBEAT MUSIC ENDS] 1242 01:07:16,532 --> 01:07:17,658 Hi. How you doin'? 1243 01:07:18,242 --> 01:07:19,452 [TEEZ] I see you got on... 1244 01:07:19,535 --> 01:07:21,495 [RO$$] How you livin'? You know I gotta come clean. 1245 01:07:21,579 --> 01:07:23,289 - How you been? - I'm good. How are you? 1246 01:07:23,372 --> 01:07:25,166 [RO$$] Man, I'm all good, man. 1247 01:07:26,333 --> 01:07:29,879 Catch me up in terms of kinda where you at with the team and all that. 1248 01:07:29,962 --> 01:07:32,423 What exactly does the practice squad mean? 1249 01:07:32,506 --> 01:07:33,883 Practice squad is like, 1250 01:07:33,966 --> 01:07:39,680 "Okay, well, something happened to somebody on our active roster." 1251 01:07:39,764 --> 01:07:41,891 "We need a guy that, you know, we've been grooming." 1252 01:07:41,974 --> 01:07:45,603 "You know, a guy that knows our system that we feel like can go play for us." 1253 01:07:45,686 --> 01:07:47,897 - [RO$$] Mm-hmm. - So that's what the practice squad is. 1254 01:07:47,980 --> 01:07:50,608 You do everything that active do. 1255 01:07:50,691 --> 01:07:51,859 - It's no different. - Okay. 1256 01:07:51,942 --> 01:07:55,905 - Just on game day, you don't play. - [RO$$] Got you. 1257 01:07:55,988 --> 01:08:00,743 From a, like, finance standpoint, like, how much do you make on the practice team? 1258 01:08:00,826 --> 01:08:03,079 So P squad, you get 10K a week. 1259 01:08:03,162 --> 01:08:04,622 Is that money guaranteed? 1260 01:08:04,705 --> 01:08:08,626 - Or you could technically get cut? - Yeah. They can terminate you at any time. 1261 01:08:08,709 --> 01:08:09,919 Oh, wow. 1262 01:08:12,004 --> 01:08:15,049 {\an8}- [SCREEN WHIRRING] - [CASH REGISTER CLINGS] 1263 01:08:15,132 --> 01:08:17,551 The average person, their earning potential is linear. 1264 01:08:17,635 --> 01:08:21,305 It goes up. You get wiser, get a promotion, it keeps going. 1265 01:08:22,139 --> 01:08:24,433 - [EXHALES] - [RO$$] When it come to athletes, 1266 01:08:24,517 --> 01:08:28,104 their earning potential plateaus before the age of 30, 1267 01:08:28,187 --> 01:08:29,772 and it just starts going down. 1268 01:08:29,855 --> 01:08:31,315 [GRUNTING] 1269 01:08:31,398 --> 01:08:34,026 You need to start planning for your last day, day one. 1270 01:08:42,034 --> 01:08:43,828 And now, you investing! Talk to me. 1271 01:08:43,911 --> 01:08:46,956 What questions you got for me? You in the S&P and the Nasdaq, right? 1272 01:08:47,039 --> 01:08:49,208 - I bought two more too though. - [RO$$] What you got? 1273 01:08:49,291 --> 01:08:50,292 Apple and Facebook. 1274 01:08:51,544 --> 01:08:52,878 Couldn't have went better. 1275 01:08:52,962 --> 01:08:56,132 Yeah, I seen it, one day I had went on the E-Trade app, 1276 01:08:56,215 --> 01:08:58,217 and, like, it was in red a little bit. 1277 01:08:59,176 --> 01:09:01,137 What happens if the S&P goes down? 1278 01:09:01,220 --> 01:09:03,556 It's not a "what if," it will go down. 1279 01:09:03,639 --> 01:09:05,891 - [JEEZ] Oh. - That's the thing you can be certain of. 1280 01:09:05,975 --> 01:09:07,852 Every day, it's a roller coaster. 1281 01:09:07,935 --> 01:09:09,770 It goes up sometimes. It goes down. 1282 01:09:09,854 --> 01:09:13,232 But the thing is that if it does go down, don't panic. 1283 01:09:13,315 --> 01:09:16,694 Don't take your money out because it's going to go back up. 1284 01:09:16,777 --> 01:09:20,948 Every month, we buying a little bit, and you're gonna look back in five years 1285 01:09:21,448 --> 01:09:23,450 like, "Damn, I wish I would have bought more!" 1286 01:09:23,534 --> 01:09:24,368 Mm-hmm. 1287 01:09:24,451 --> 01:09:27,454 I think you should pull, you know, upwards of a thousand dollars every month. 1288 01:09:27,538 --> 01:09:29,248 - I'm saying more. - That we can invest. 1289 01:09:29,331 --> 01:09:31,959 - More like five! Ten! - [RO$$] Yeah, five racks every month. 1290 01:09:34,712 --> 01:09:35,838 [DINGS] 1291 01:09:35,921 --> 01:09:38,841 Aight, so last time, you only wanted to start with a G. 1292 01:09:38,924 --> 01:09:39,758 Mm-hmm. 1293 01:09:39,842 --> 01:09:42,511 And now you sayin' you down to do like five racks a month. Why? 1294 01:09:42,595 --> 01:09:45,264 'Cause I see it's... it's good. 1295 01:09:45,347 --> 01:09:47,183 [BOTH LAUGH] 1296 01:09:47,266 --> 01:09:51,395 I put 1,000 in there now, my 1,000 is more than 1,000. 1297 01:09:51,478 --> 01:09:52,688 And I ain't do nothing. 1298 01:09:52,771 --> 01:09:54,356 As we continue to grow, 1299 01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:56,567 you gonna get more and more comfortable with it. 1300 01:09:56,650 --> 01:09:59,278 And the money management. Right? It's a lifestyle. Right? 1301 01:09:59,361 --> 01:10:01,572 And I think you gonna get adapted to it 1302 01:10:01,655 --> 01:10:04,867 and start making way better, sound financial decisions, 1303 01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:06,911 as well as great investments. 1304 01:10:14,210 --> 01:10:16,795 [ARIANA] So, towing the car home, 1305 01:10:16,879 --> 01:10:19,924 plus all the car parts is like $1200 altogether. 1306 01:10:20,007 --> 01:10:21,508 I was just like, "Okay." 1307 01:10:21,592 --> 01:10:25,429 Is the car fixed-fixed, or is it like Band-Aid fixed? 1308 01:10:25,512 --> 01:10:26,555 [SIGHS] 1309 01:10:26,639 --> 01:10:30,976 It's fixed-fixed but feels like a Band-Aid because the car is like a 2004. 1310 01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:33,145 - So I'm trying to save up some money... - Okay. 1311 01:10:33,229 --> 01:10:35,231 ...until I'm able to put a down payment on something. 1312 01:10:35,314 --> 01:10:38,442 So an emergency came, your worst-case fear emergency came, 1313 01:10:38,525 --> 01:10:40,152 but you handled it 1314 01:10:40,236 --> 01:10:43,572 because you had the money flowing to your emergency account. 1315 01:10:43,656 --> 01:10:47,368 And let me tell you that your voice, it's going in my head, 1316 01:10:47,451 --> 01:10:49,328 - "This is what the emergency fund is for." - Yes. 1317 01:10:49,411 --> 01:10:52,831 "This is an emergency, it's okay. Just spend the money." 1318 01:10:52,915 --> 01:10:54,875 Automation is the new discipline. 1319 01:10:54,959 --> 01:10:56,377 That calls for celebration. 1320 01:10:56,961 --> 01:11:00,881 So now let's talk about credit cards. How many credit cards do you have now? 1321 01:11:00,965 --> 01:11:06,428 - One, two, three, four, five, six, seven... - Okay. 1322 01:11:07,346 --> 01:11:11,934 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. 1323 01:11:12,017 --> 01:11:14,228 - Okay. - Nine if you count like, PayPal. 1324 01:11:14,311 --> 01:11:17,481 So what is going on your credit cards? What do your swipes look like? 1325 01:11:17,564 --> 01:11:19,441 - Target is my nemesis. - [TIFFANY] Mm-hmm. 1326 01:11:19,525 --> 01:11:21,193 [CLICKS TONGUE] Like it is with many people. 1327 01:11:21,277 --> 01:11:24,154 I've been doing a lot of Whole Food deliveries. 1328 01:11:24,238 --> 01:11:25,823 - Because... - [TIFFANY] So food shopping. 1329 01:11:25,906 --> 01:11:27,074 [ARIANA] Food shopping. 1330 01:11:32,037 --> 01:11:32,871 [DINGS] 1331 01:11:34,832 --> 01:11:35,874 [TIFFANY] Here's the thing. 1332 01:11:35,958 --> 01:11:40,462 Every time you swipe your credit card, you're literally taking out a loan. 1333 01:11:40,963 --> 01:11:45,676 So if you can't pay them off in full every month, ask yourself, 1334 01:11:45,759 --> 01:11:51,098 "Do I want to spend an extra 16% on this?" Because that's the average interest rate. 1335 01:11:52,933 --> 01:11:56,020 So I want you to make the shift from spending from credit 1336 01:11:56,103 --> 01:11:57,563 to spending from checking. 1337 01:11:57,646 --> 01:11:58,480 Okay. 1338 01:11:58,564 --> 01:12:02,234 I want the next month a no-credit-card-usage month. 1339 01:12:02,818 --> 01:12:04,528 You know, 'cause that's gonna be a reframe. 1340 01:12:04,611 --> 01:12:06,488 - Yeah. - That's literally your word of the day, 1341 01:12:06,572 --> 01:12:08,032 to reframe. 1342 01:12:08,115 --> 01:12:08,991 Okay. 1343 01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:11,618 ["BARCAROLLE" PLAYING] 1344 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,529 [ARIANA] Can I get an iced grande Americano, please? 1345 01:12:48,447 --> 01:12:51,325 [TIFFANY] What I would really love to see Ariana do with her credit cards 1346 01:12:51,408 --> 01:12:54,703 is to consistently pay them every month in full. 1347 01:12:58,290 --> 01:13:00,626 I would like to see that she honestly stops spending 1348 01:13:00,709 --> 01:13:02,086 from credit cards altogether, 1349 01:13:02,878 --> 01:13:06,507 that she leans into the money that she has set aside for spending. 1350 01:13:08,634 --> 01:13:10,469 [ARIANA] All right, so I just got out of Target. 1351 01:13:11,678 --> 01:13:13,180 I stuck to my list. 1352 01:13:13,263 --> 01:13:15,432 Um, I only bought a couple things for the kids, 1353 01:13:15,516 --> 01:13:17,101 and I paid with my debit card 1354 01:13:17,184 --> 01:13:19,895 even though that was quite anxiety-producing. 1355 01:13:19,978 --> 01:13:22,773 But it's funny 'cause I know there's enough money on my debit card 1356 01:13:22,856 --> 01:13:26,193 to cover whatever I bought. I still didn't want to do it. 1357 01:13:27,861 --> 01:13:29,488 ["BARCAROLLE" ENDS] 1358 01:13:34,743 --> 01:13:35,786 [BOY MUMBLES] 1359 01:13:36,620 --> 01:13:38,288 [BOTH LAUGH] 1360 01:13:38,372 --> 01:13:39,790 [BOY MUMBLES] 1361 01:13:39,873 --> 01:13:42,960 [JOHN] He was talking about pushing the ball forward in the right direction. 1362 01:13:43,877 --> 01:13:44,711 The other one on top. 1363 01:13:44,795 --> 01:13:47,339 It feels like we did a lot of the really simple things, 1364 01:13:47,423 --> 01:13:51,427 like less Amazon spending, more conscious grocery shopping. 1365 01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:57,266 So we've decided to downsize and sell our house here in Colorado. 1366 01:13:58,225 --> 01:14:00,227 [BOY TALKS INDISTINCTLY] 1367 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,773 [KIM] We can't reduce our spending that much. 1368 01:14:04,857 --> 01:14:07,609 So the biggest expense we have is our house. 1369 01:14:09,903 --> 01:14:14,450 Every year, our mortgage on this house is like $36,000. 1370 01:14:14,533 --> 01:14:17,911 So if we can cut that in half, 1371 01:14:17,995 --> 01:14:20,164 we can invest that $18,000. 1372 01:14:20,747 --> 01:14:22,458 Also, when we downsize, 1373 01:14:22,541 --> 01:14:26,170 we can have a short-term rental on that property 1374 01:14:26,253 --> 01:14:29,423 and hopefully pay for our new mortgage. 1375 01:14:31,008 --> 01:14:34,303 So we can definitely hit our FIRE number way sooner 1376 01:14:34,970 --> 01:14:37,097 and then have a choice about work. 1377 01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:41,894 [PETE] If housing is expensive where you live, 1378 01:14:41,977 --> 01:14:43,312 then you should be more efficient. 1379 01:14:43,395 --> 01:14:47,900 And you can really catapult yourself to early retirement a lot earlier 1380 01:14:47,983 --> 01:14:49,985 if you're willing to take such a bold step. 1381 01:14:53,238 --> 01:14:54,072 {\an8}[DINGS] 1382 01:14:58,827 --> 01:15:01,663 {\an8}[PETE] I guess the idea is just having the house in good condition. 1383 01:15:02,164 --> 01:15:05,000 - So it looks nicer when you're selling it. - [JOHN] Exactly. 1384 01:15:05,584 --> 01:15:07,336 - [PETE] Okay, so the plan here... - [JOHN] Yeah. 1385 01:15:07,419 --> 01:15:09,630 We're gonna max this area out with shelves. 1386 01:15:09,713 --> 01:15:10,547 [JOHN] Yeah. 1387 01:15:10,631 --> 01:15:12,674 Starting with some 18s and then doing 15... 1388 01:15:12,758 --> 01:15:14,176 Actually 16s and 15s. 1389 01:15:14,259 --> 01:15:15,636 - All the way to the top. - Okay. 1390 01:15:16,887 --> 01:15:20,265 [PETE] It often takes longer to find a person like a contractor 1391 01:15:20,349 --> 01:15:22,059 to come help you with something. 1392 01:15:22,142 --> 01:15:24,686 Just do it yourself, build the skills. 1393 01:15:24,770 --> 01:15:26,396 It's incredibly satisfying. 1394 01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:29,483 And it just happens to save you a shit-ton of money. 1395 01:15:29,566 --> 01:15:30,567 - Good enough. - [EXHALES] 1396 01:15:31,276 --> 01:15:35,781 - At this point, we're gonna get serious. - [LAUGHS] 1397 01:15:35,864 --> 01:15:38,575 - I'm still cold. I'm gonna keep mine on. - Yeah. 1398 01:15:40,702 --> 01:15:43,121 [JOHN] Pete has a lot of resources on frugality, 1399 01:15:43,205 --> 01:15:46,875 but our work with Pete has centered around 1400 01:15:46,959 --> 01:15:49,294 our mindset when it comes to money. 1401 01:15:50,170 --> 01:15:51,004 [PETE] Yeah. 1402 01:15:52,714 --> 01:15:54,299 [JOHN] Pete's coaching has been 1403 01:15:55,175 --> 01:15:59,054 more about being deliberate and responsible in your choices. 1404 01:15:59,137 --> 01:16:00,222 [SAW WHIRRING] 1405 01:16:00,305 --> 01:16:03,725 I think the main thing we were learning from Pete 1406 01:16:03,809 --> 01:16:10,607 was to live our life in a joyful, responsible way. 1407 01:16:10,691 --> 01:16:16,613 Like, I think his main message to us has never been, "Only save money." 1408 01:16:16,697 --> 01:16:20,576 It's been, "Save money, but also don't wait to live your life 1409 01:16:20,659 --> 01:16:22,703 and spend time with your kids." 1410 01:16:24,371 --> 01:16:26,248 [SAW STOPS] 1411 01:16:33,088 --> 01:16:36,091 - [LINDSEY] Should I get tortillas prepped? - [MAN TALKS INDISTINCTLY] 1412 01:16:36,174 --> 01:16:38,719 Here. I'll start cutting an onion, 1413 01:16:38,802 --> 01:16:41,138 and then you can sauté them up. 1414 01:16:41,638 --> 01:16:42,639 [LINDSEY] Okay. 1415 01:16:42,723 --> 01:16:45,100 - You want me to throw some butter in? - [MAN] Yeah. 1416 01:16:47,019 --> 01:16:51,940 [LINDSEY] So I've learned a lot about food spending in this process. 1417 01:16:52,441 --> 01:16:57,070 We are not spending the money we did before with take-out every night. 1418 01:16:58,071 --> 01:16:59,823 What are you doing? 1419 01:17:00,949 --> 01:17:04,036 - I'm cutting avocado. [CHUCKLES] - Okay. 1420 01:17:04,119 --> 01:17:07,122 [LINDSEY] Getting away from Uber Eats and ordering take-out, 1421 01:17:07,205 --> 01:17:12,377 I think that contributed a lot to no longer being paycheck to paycheck. 1422 01:17:12,878 --> 01:17:15,672 That allowed me to actually save 1423 01:17:15,756 --> 01:17:18,842 the money that I was earning through my art projects. 1424 01:17:18,925 --> 01:17:20,927 There is more breathing room. 1425 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,975 {\an8}Carey just got promoted to head chef at his company. 1426 01:17:27,059 --> 01:17:29,102 They are offering him free healthcare. 1427 01:17:29,186 --> 01:17:34,191 And as his partner, I can get on his healthcare for a small price. 1428 01:17:34,775 --> 01:17:37,152 So whenever I do get health insurance, 1429 01:17:37,235 --> 01:17:40,864 one of the primary things I want to take care of has been mental health. 1430 01:17:40,947 --> 01:17:42,157 [CAREY LAUGHS] 1431 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,743 I think therapy is always a good idea. 1432 01:17:45,243 --> 01:17:48,080 So I'm very anxious to be getting started with that again. 1433 01:17:51,249 --> 01:17:53,001 While I have been painting, 1434 01:17:53,085 --> 01:17:55,796 the pylon project at Hop Squad is kind of cool. 1435 01:17:55,879 --> 01:17:57,089 People will come up to me, 1436 01:17:57,172 --> 01:18:00,801 ask to take pictures, and they'll ask for my business card. 1437 01:18:00,884 --> 01:18:03,720 I've had people tell me they're looking for a fence 1438 01:18:03,804 --> 01:18:07,432 in their neighborhood painted with a mural or little things like that. 1439 01:18:09,267 --> 01:18:12,062 So I've got a few leads that way. 1440 01:18:15,357 --> 01:18:18,652 Hop Squad really, really, really want to support my art, 1441 01:18:18,735 --> 01:18:21,279 and they gave me this amazing opportunity 1442 01:18:21,363 --> 01:18:24,991 where I'm going to be doing art classes once a month for them now. 1443 01:18:25,075 --> 01:18:28,120 You just have paint markers here. They're very easy to use, 1444 01:18:28,203 --> 01:18:30,414 so you don't have to worry about brush strokes. 1445 01:18:30,497 --> 01:18:31,456 And after you're done... 1446 01:18:31,540 --> 01:18:35,544 The best part of that too, is whenever I do my art nights, 1447 01:18:35,627 --> 01:18:39,339 they want me to set up a booth and set up my paintings for sale. 1448 01:18:41,967 --> 01:18:45,137 My entire goal was to get out of the service industry, 1449 01:18:45,220 --> 01:18:47,764 and I feel like I am actually planting roots 1450 01:18:47,848 --> 01:18:50,058 for my future, and it's flourishing. 1451 01:18:53,228 --> 01:18:55,063 When I started this process, 1452 01:18:55,147 --> 01:18:58,316 I didn't think I was in the right place in life, 1453 01:18:58,817 --> 01:19:00,652 but I realized along the way, 1454 01:19:00,736 --> 01:19:04,030 once I started doing things that I love 1455 01:19:04,656 --> 01:19:08,994 and building something, creating something from the bottom, 1456 01:19:10,245 --> 01:19:14,249 that is success to me now. Success is happiness. 1457 01:19:20,088 --> 01:19:21,840 [CROWD CHEERS] 1458 01:19:21,923 --> 01:19:24,426 [COMMENTATOR] Been a pleasure. Good evening, everybody walking in. 1459 01:19:24,509 --> 01:19:26,136 The Bears and Buccaneers in Tampa. 1460 01:19:33,310 --> 01:19:35,145 I just got some real good news. 1461 01:19:35,645 --> 01:19:37,272 Got an exciting phone call. 1462 01:19:37,355 --> 01:19:39,858 I'm playing my first game with the Chicago Bears 1463 01:19:39,941 --> 01:19:41,943 after six weeks on practice squad. 1464 01:19:42,027 --> 01:19:44,529 I'm going against Tom Brady and the Bucks. 1465 01:19:44,613 --> 01:19:45,697 Should be fun. 1466 01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:48,325 [CROWD CHEERS] 1467 01:19:48,408 --> 01:19:51,578 Teez! Let's go! I had to come to your first game, baby! 1468 01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:56,333 [COMMENTATOR 1] {\an8}Third and ten. 1469 01:19:58,752 --> 01:20:00,086 That's broken up. 1470 01:20:00,962 --> 01:20:03,924 [COMMENTATOR 2] Teez Tabor is the one who knocked it down. 1471 01:20:04,007 --> 01:20:06,676 [MAN] There we go, Teez! Yes, sir! 1472 01:20:07,302 --> 01:20:09,763 [TEEZ] I was just so excited because I haven't got to play 1473 01:20:09,846 --> 01:20:12,098 in an NFL game for almost three years, 1474 01:20:12,891 --> 01:20:14,810 so it's just a long time coming. 1475 01:20:22,150 --> 01:20:24,736 Going from practice squad to active roster, 1476 01:20:24,820 --> 01:20:26,571 there's a big difference in the pay. 1477 01:20:31,076 --> 01:20:34,746 The money coming in now is different than when I first got in the league. 1478 01:20:34,830 --> 01:20:40,001 I already know I'm putting certain amount in the S&P like I'm paying a bill. 1479 01:20:43,088 --> 01:20:43,922 [DINGS] 1480 01:20:44,005 --> 01:20:45,966 So I'm just getting started, 1481 01:20:46,049 --> 01:20:49,344 but I'm definitely setting my family up for the better. 1482 01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:53,765 - Daddy's hair are messy! - [LAUGHS] It's all messy? 1483 01:20:53,849 --> 01:20:56,309 - Need to comb all of it. - Yeah, you gotta get it right. 1484 01:20:56,393 --> 01:20:58,937 [TEEZ] When I look at Chelsea and Ariah with this new knowledge, 1485 01:20:59,020 --> 01:21:02,023 it definitely makes me feel like a better provider. 1486 01:21:02,524 --> 01:21:05,110 Eye! You know, eye! 1487 01:21:05,193 --> 01:21:07,404 His blue eyes! 1488 01:21:07,487 --> 01:21:10,949 [TEEZ] To be able to help especially those two people in my life... 1489 01:21:11,449 --> 01:21:12,868 Okay, let's go take a look! 1490 01:21:12,951 --> 01:21:13,910 ...for life. 1491 01:21:14,411 --> 01:21:15,871 And... And that's the biggest thing. 1492 01:21:17,289 --> 01:21:19,040 [ARIANA] I think it looks amazing. 1493 01:21:19,124 --> 01:21:21,376 I think he just needs some lip gloss, then he's all done. 1494 01:21:21,459 --> 01:21:23,461 You look so beautiful! 1495 01:21:23,545 --> 01:21:25,255 I'm very passionate about 1496 01:21:25,338 --> 01:21:27,549 giving the knowledge I got back to the community. 1497 01:21:27,632 --> 01:21:29,593 [UPTEMPO INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYS] 1498 01:21:29,676 --> 01:21:31,219 [PEOPLE LAUGHING] 1499 01:21:33,388 --> 01:21:34,389 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1500 01:21:34,472 --> 01:21:38,476 Helping them have a different outlook on money and how to use it. 1501 01:21:41,521 --> 01:21:44,482 See, when I got to the NFL, it was... it was showtime for me. 1502 01:21:45,442 --> 01:21:49,905 Man, I'm looking... I'm looking sweet now. I can finally buy my own shoes. 1503 01:21:49,988 --> 01:21:52,532 I got my own crib. You know what I'm saying? 1504 01:21:52,616 --> 01:21:54,409 I got my own jewelry. You know... 1505 01:21:54,492 --> 01:21:56,369 I mean, I was spending it before I got it. 1506 01:21:56,953 --> 01:22:00,290 Growing up, you ain't had no money, so you didn't have to manage money. 1507 01:22:00,373 --> 01:22:02,334 They don't teach us this in the classroom. 1508 01:22:02,417 --> 01:22:05,003 They teach us how to be, you know, consumers. 1509 01:22:05,086 --> 01:22:08,548 They teach us how to take on debt. Ain't gonna teach us how to keep money. 1510 01:22:08,632 --> 01:22:11,718 But sometimes in our culture, we want to get rich quick. 1511 01:22:11,801 --> 01:22:14,220 - Mm-hmm. - I wanna get rich quick. Right? Like... 1512 01:22:14,304 --> 01:22:16,556 It ain't no shame, right? It ain't no shame in it. 1513 01:22:17,140 --> 01:22:18,850 But I blew so much money on... 1514 01:22:19,935 --> 01:22:22,979 you know, the fake lifestyle that we want to live, for real. 1515 01:22:23,563 --> 01:22:26,316 Forget all the Instagram. Forget all the glitz and the glamour. 1516 01:22:26,399 --> 01:22:28,860 Like, forget all that. It's fake. 1517 01:22:28,944 --> 01:22:33,281 All that little baby chains, it's... it's not real, for real. 1518 01:22:33,365 --> 01:22:35,825 What's real is really investing my money. 1519 01:22:37,035 --> 01:22:41,498 Everything that I've learned from Ro$$ has definitely, like, changed my life. 1520 01:22:42,290 --> 01:22:43,792 It changed my mindset. 1521 01:22:43,875 --> 01:22:45,710 It changed my outlook. 1522 01:22:45,794 --> 01:22:48,588 It shifted my focus on what it needed to be. 1523 01:22:48,672 --> 01:22:51,716 And with that, there's no price tag that you could put on it. 1524 01:22:52,926 --> 01:22:55,929 The knowledge that I've gained is priceless. 1525 01:23:00,892 --> 01:23:03,603 [TIFFANY] I know we've been on a good track, but how do you feel? 1526 01:23:03,687 --> 01:23:06,314 - And where are you? Any big news? - Um, actually, yes! 1527 01:23:06,398 --> 01:23:08,566 - Okay! - I... I'm getting a raise at work. 1528 01:23:08,650 --> 01:23:10,485 - Okay! [LAUGHS] - Yeah. 1529 01:23:10,568 --> 01:23:15,448 I was told a little bit ago, um, and I'm waiting to see when that kicks in. 1530 01:23:15,532 --> 01:23:19,077 Look how your... More money is coming into your life, right? 1531 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:20,704 When you look after money, 1532 01:23:21,287 --> 01:23:22,872 literally more money will come to you 1533 01:23:22,956 --> 01:23:25,041 because you're looking after the money that you have. 1534 01:23:25,125 --> 01:23:27,460 That's what's happening. You're getting on the other side of, 1535 01:23:27,544 --> 01:23:29,838 I like to call it post-traumatic broke syndrome. 1536 01:23:29,921 --> 01:23:30,964 [LAUGHS] 1537 01:23:31,047 --> 01:23:33,883 - You know I've been there. - That's exactly what I'm feeling. 1538 01:23:34,467 --> 01:23:36,720 - Can I give you another update? - Yes, of course. 1539 01:23:36,803 --> 01:23:40,432 I paid off everything that had an interest rate of 10% or higher. 1540 01:23:40,515 --> 01:23:41,808 [LAUGHS] Yes! 1541 01:23:41,891 --> 01:23:45,687 So the only things that are left are things that are like 10% or lower. 1542 01:23:45,770 --> 01:23:47,647 Okay, that's awesome! 1543 01:23:51,943 --> 01:23:54,279 [ARIANA] I don't remember when, like, my credit card balances 1544 01:23:54,362 --> 01:23:55,488 were ever this low. 1545 01:23:58,241 --> 01:24:02,037 Now, instead of feeling like a mountain, it's like I'm walking up a hill. 1546 01:24:02,829 --> 01:24:05,290 It doesn't feel like something that's insurmountable anymore. 1547 01:24:05,373 --> 01:24:08,001 It feels like, it's like, I'm almost at the finish line. 1548 01:24:08,835 --> 01:24:10,795 It's like a really great feeling. 1549 01:24:13,089 --> 01:24:15,592 So credit card debt's gonna be done soon. 1550 01:24:15,675 --> 01:24:17,886 - [ARIANA] Yes. - So I want you to think now, 1551 01:24:18,428 --> 01:24:21,681 'cause here's where I was, I had $35,000 in credit card debt. 1552 01:24:21,765 --> 01:24:24,100 And I paid it all by being very aggressive. 1553 01:24:24,184 --> 01:24:25,393 - Just like you. - Yeah. 1554 01:24:25,477 --> 01:24:28,146 And then I was like, "Student loan debt, you're next!" 1555 01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:29,731 That's how I feel now! 1556 01:24:29,814 --> 01:24:32,067 - But... here's the thing. - Okay. Yes. 1557 01:24:32,650 --> 01:24:35,195 - Credit card debt is cancerous. - Yes, it is. 1558 01:24:35,278 --> 01:24:36,654 - We have to cut it out. - Yes. 1559 01:24:36,738 --> 01:24:39,574 But student loan debt, usually the interest rate is fairly low. 1560 01:24:39,657 --> 01:24:41,117 - Oftentimes under 5%. - [ARIANA] Yeah. 1561 01:24:41,201 --> 01:24:43,495 And so you don't have to be as fast with paying them off. 1562 01:24:47,624 --> 01:24:49,751 [TIFFANY] I want you to start to enjoy 1563 01:24:50,251 --> 01:24:52,253 the money that's happening to you. 1564 01:24:52,337 --> 01:24:54,631 - You know what I mean? - [ARIANA] Yes, that would be amazing. 1565 01:24:54,714 --> 01:24:58,343 [TIFFANY] The way you're navigating with your finances now, you can do that. 1566 01:24:58,426 --> 01:24:59,427 [ARIANA] Isn't this cool? 1567 01:25:01,679 --> 01:25:03,473 It's like a sculpture. 1568 01:25:03,556 --> 01:25:05,642 [TIFFANY] In the beginning, the money is for security. 1569 01:25:05,725 --> 01:25:08,186 After that, what is the money for? 1570 01:25:08,269 --> 01:25:11,481 Some day trips that I wanted to go, like, see the pyramids nearby. 1571 01:25:11,564 --> 01:25:14,400 [TIFFANY] The money is to help explore the world. 1572 01:25:14,484 --> 01:25:17,278 The money is to lean into new experiences. 1573 01:25:17,362 --> 01:25:21,032 The money is to help create the life that you really desire, 1574 01:25:21,116 --> 01:25:23,743 and that is your reward for taking care of it. 1575 01:25:23,827 --> 01:25:24,953 [SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY] 1576 01:25:25,036 --> 01:25:28,498 They have a subway, which is really cool, and apparently Ubers are like $3. 1577 01:25:29,207 --> 01:25:30,917 Something that Tiffany really pushed me to do 1578 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,252 is set up this dream fund. 1579 01:25:32,335 --> 01:25:34,963 So Andrew and I are planning a trip to Mexico City. 1580 01:25:35,046 --> 01:25:37,632 This would be a lot of fun for us to do. Just me and you. 1581 01:25:38,508 --> 01:25:40,218 So I thought his was absolutely beautiful. 1582 01:25:40,301 --> 01:25:42,345 - Casa Boho? - [ARIANA] Casa Boho. 1583 01:25:43,596 --> 01:25:46,307 [ARIANA] This money was specifically set aside for this trip. 1584 01:25:46,391 --> 01:25:48,518 So there's less guilt associated with it, right? 1585 01:25:48,601 --> 01:25:50,311 Like, it's not like this money was earmarked 1586 01:25:50,395 --> 01:25:51,646 for debt or something else. 1587 01:25:51,729 --> 01:25:53,898 I wanna do a couple nice dinners. 1588 01:25:54,482 --> 01:25:58,319 I haven't had to think about a budget since I've started working with Tiffany. 1589 01:25:58,903 --> 01:26:01,906 My direct deposit is set up so the correct amount of money 1590 01:26:01,990 --> 01:26:03,575 goes into every single account. 1591 01:26:03,658 --> 01:26:07,036 It has lifted, like, this huge weight, 1592 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,582 knowing that everything is set up and I don't have to touch it at all. 1593 01:26:13,126 --> 01:26:16,588 This mindset shift around giving myself grace 1594 01:26:16,671 --> 01:26:20,592 {\an8}and being patient with myself and, like, setting up my money in a way 1595 01:26:21,134 --> 01:26:24,888 {\an8}that gave me space to do the things that mattered to me 1596 01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:27,265 {\an8}while also paying off the debt. 1597 01:26:28,766 --> 01:26:30,393 {\an8}It's been, like, life-changing. 1598 01:26:37,984 --> 01:26:40,361 [KIM] Ready? Where are we going? 1599 01:26:41,529 --> 01:26:43,198 To the airport. 1600 01:26:43,281 --> 01:26:45,200 [KIM LAUGHS] 1601 01:26:45,283 --> 01:26:47,785 We're going to Costa Rica! We're on our way. 1602 01:26:47,869 --> 01:26:49,787 And we are gonna go on vacation. 1603 01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:55,919 [PETE] When I tell people to cut down their spending, 1604 01:26:56,002 --> 01:26:58,504 I'm really trying to talk them into cutting out waste. 1605 01:26:59,589 --> 01:27:00,840 Going on a family vacation, 1606 01:27:00,924 --> 01:27:02,884 like a trip to Costa Rica, is totally different. 1607 01:27:02,967 --> 01:27:04,761 That's something you're gonna remember forever. 1608 01:27:04,844 --> 01:27:06,471 Your kids are only young once. 1609 01:27:06,554 --> 01:27:09,766 So if you can afford it, that's probably money that's worth spending. 1610 01:27:11,392 --> 01:27:12,685 [JOHN] I'm packing. 1611 01:27:12,769 --> 01:27:14,270 Yay! 1612 01:27:16,356 --> 01:27:18,358 [PETE ON VIDEO CALL] How long is this trip gonna be? 1613 01:27:18,983 --> 01:27:21,361 - [JOHN] Five weeks total. - [KIM] Yeah. [LAUGHS] 1614 01:27:21,444 --> 01:27:25,240 [PETE] That's a pretty reasonable, {\an8}like, uh, early retirement test. 1615 01:27:25,323 --> 01:27:28,493 {\an8}Yeah, mini retirement, we learned that term recently. 1616 01:27:28,576 --> 01:27:32,497 {\an8}I like the idea of doing that once a year, having an extended break 1617 01:27:32,580 --> 01:27:34,749 {\an8}rather than waiting till we're, you know... 1618 01:27:34,832 --> 01:27:36,751 - [PETE] {\an8}Yeah, I think that's a good idea. - Yeah. 1619 01:27:36,834 --> 01:27:40,713 {\an8}So what's the status of your... your nice house back in Colorado, 1620 01:27:40,797 --> 01:27:42,173 {\an8}while you're on this vacation? 1621 01:27:42,257 --> 01:27:44,759 {\an8}We were able to rent it out for two weeks. 1622 01:27:44,842 --> 01:27:47,512 - What! Oh, that's awesome! {\an8}- [BOTH] Yeah. 1623 01:27:50,515 --> 01:27:54,018 [JOHN] This whole process has been about, like, "How do we use our resources?" 1624 01:27:54,102 --> 01:27:58,356 Money being one of the resources to expand the amount of time 1625 01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,358 and prioritize our kids. 1626 01:28:00,441 --> 01:28:04,070 It's not the material stuff. It's the time that we care about. 1627 01:28:05,530 --> 01:28:08,783 [KIM] I've never taken off this much time from work. 1628 01:28:09,784 --> 01:28:14,122 What was most special about the mini retirement 1629 01:28:14,205 --> 01:28:18,501 was that we got to bond and, like, really get to know each other. 1630 01:28:18,584 --> 01:28:20,670 And we just don't have time for that in daily life. 1631 01:28:20,753 --> 01:28:22,922 - [COOING] - [KIM] Oh, you found another slug? 1632 01:28:23,464 --> 01:28:25,758 - Yeah! - Be gentle with him, okay? 1633 01:28:25,842 --> 01:28:28,845 [KIM] We don't have time to sit on a beach 1634 01:28:28,928 --> 01:28:31,556 and like, talk about shells. 1635 01:28:31,639 --> 01:28:33,057 It doesn't, like, happen. 1636 01:28:34,267 --> 01:28:37,520 So that was really special. 1637 01:28:42,066 --> 01:28:45,903 The trip was kind of a representation of, like, 1638 01:28:45,987 --> 01:28:48,656 "Okay, we can, like, hustle and make all this money 1639 01:28:48,740 --> 01:28:51,701 {\an8}and then not use it and just throw it all on the stock market." 1640 01:28:53,494 --> 01:28:54,370 {\an8}[DINGS] 1641 01:28:54,454 --> 01:28:59,125 {\an8}Or we can take time now to be available and present for each other 1642 01:28:59,208 --> 01:29:02,378 and have real healthy, happy relationships. 1643 01:29:07,008 --> 01:29:11,804 I feel like the definition of money has shifted from a way to create 1644 01:29:11,888 --> 01:29:16,100 short-term comfort, short-term relief 1645 01:29:16,184 --> 01:29:18,728 to long-term freedom. 1646 01:29:20,730 --> 01:29:23,858 I definitely have changed the way I think about Amazon 1647 01:29:23,941 --> 01:29:27,904 and spending in general because we have a really solid goal 1648 01:29:27,987 --> 01:29:29,405 that we're working towards. 1649 01:29:29,906 --> 01:29:33,534 Being able to retire in the next five, six, seven years 1650 01:29:33,618 --> 01:29:36,412 is such a bigger reward 1651 01:29:36,496 --> 01:29:40,458 than anything I could purchase ever. 1652 01:29:40,541 --> 01:29:42,543 [LAUGHS] 1653 01:29:55,932 --> 01:29:59,185 The ultimate goal of money is to not have to think about money. 1654 01:29:59,268 --> 01:30:01,646 If your spending is low, then all the other problems 1655 01:30:01,729 --> 01:30:03,106 just kind of evaporate. 1656 01:30:04,065 --> 01:30:07,235 I'm just hoping that Kim and John are feeling more confident 1657 01:30:07,318 --> 01:30:08,569 and less overwhelmed, 1658 01:30:08,653 --> 01:30:11,280 and I'm sure their spending is gonna improve. 1659 01:30:11,364 --> 01:30:15,284 But even more important than that is just that their mental understanding 1660 01:30:15,368 --> 01:30:18,621 of how bright their future is gonna be, that needs to sink in, 1661 01:30:18,704 --> 01:30:22,458 and then they're gonna feel empowered to make more changes after that. 1662 01:30:23,835 --> 01:30:25,837 [MELLOW MUSIC PLAYS] 1663 01:30:32,718 --> 01:30:34,345 Money is just a tool. 1664 01:30:34,429 --> 01:30:37,515 You can use money to build yourself up financially, 1665 01:30:37,598 --> 01:30:40,768 but money can also be used to destroy yourself financially. 1666 01:30:40,852 --> 01:30:44,814 But ultimately, the good news is you get to decide. 1667 01:30:44,897 --> 01:30:46,482 You are in charge. 1668 01:30:47,692 --> 01:30:48,985 What I'm most happy about 1669 01:30:49,068 --> 01:30:51,362 is I can see that Ari sees the finish line. 1670 01:30:51,446 --> 01:30:54,699 You know, I'm not talking to a woman who's hopeless anymore. 1671 01:31:05,084 --> 01:31:07,587 It's not just teaching the person how to budget 1672 01:31:07,670 --> 01:31:10,339 or teaching the person how to invest. This is a lifestyle. 1673 01:31:11,048 --> 01:31:14,469 If Teez is to keep up this pace of investing in the S&P 500 1674 01:31:14,552 --> 01:31:18,598 on a monthly basis, being disciplined, being consistent, right? 1675 01:31:18,681 --> 01:31:21,851 Literally in 20 years, he'll have close to four million dollars. 1676 01:31:21,934 --> 01:31:23,936 [MELLOW MUSIC BUILDS] 1677 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,656 When you shift your focus and you think about what you can earn 1678 01:31:35,740 --> 01:31:37,617 and how to grow your income, 1679 01:31:37,700 --> 01:31:42,163 part of that is shifting your focus 1680 01:31:42,246 --> 01:31:46,501 to really ask yourself the question, "What value can I bring to the world?" 1681 01:31:47,460 --> 01:31:51,214 Lindsey has so much creativity and skill 1682 01:31:51,297 --> 01:31:55,593 that by making that her career, she will naturally make a lot more money, 1683 01:31:55,676 --> 01:31:56,636 because the thing is, 1684 01:31:56,719 --> 01:32:00,223 you make money based on how rare and valuable 1685 01:32:00,306 --> 01:32:02,558 the thing that you're bringing to the table is. 1686 01:32:05,728 --> 01:32:08,940 [MELLOW MUSIC ENDS] 1687 01:32:13,194 --> 01:32:17,073 [UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS] 1688 01:32:44,642 --> 01:32:46,310 [UPBEAT MUSIC ENDS]