1 00:00:01,668 --> 00:00:03,971 - ♪♪ MTV ♪♪ 2 00:00:08,942 --> 00:00:09,977 [Lights' "Okay Okay"] 3 00:00:10,043 --> 00:00:12,212 - ♪♪ Okay, okay, okay, okay ♪♪ 4 00:00:12,279 --> 00:00:13,347 - I still need glam. 5 00:00:13,413 --> 00:00:14,915 Don't judge. 6 00:00:14,982 --> 00:00:17,584 - Tonight on Teen Mom: The Next Chapter Reunion"... 7 00:00:17,651 --> 00:00:20,053 - It's always a good time for reunions. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,623 - Dr. Drew called people out on their [bleep]. 9 00:00:22,689 --> 00:00:24,725 - The moms are in Los Angeles to break down 10 00:00:24,791 --> 00:00:27,127 their most transformative season yet. 11 00:00:27,194 --> 00:00:29,162 - I'm on the way to the studio now. 12 00:00:29,229 --> 00:00:30,998 Finally about to do the reunion. 13 00:00:31,064 --> 00:00:33,700 - And the question on everyone's mind remains. 14 00:00:33,767 --> 00:00:36,069 Can all the moms move past their drama 15 00:00:36,136 --> 00:00:37,404 and share the stage? 16 00:00:37,471 --> 00:00:39,640 - I guess we'll see where the night goes. 17 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:41,575 - I'm hoping it just goes smooth. 18 00:00:41,642 --> 00:00:43,544 - It's like reunions always give me anxiety. 19 00:00:43,610 --> 00:00:45,946 I don't know why. - Let's all be nice. 20 00:00:46,013 --> 00:00:47,681 - Standby, please. Here we go. 21 00:00:47,748 --> 00:00:52,052 Five, four, join, speed, three, two... 22 00:00:52,119 --> 00:00:55,189 - It's an emotional night filled with tears. 23 00:00:55,255 --> 00:00:57,691 - And then so happy that no matter what I did, 24 00:00:57,758 --> 00:00:58,792 she learned something. 25 00:00:58,859 --> 00:01:00,994 - Sorry. It is still kind of like-- 26 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:03,363 [sobs] 27 00:01:03,430 --> 00:01:04,932 - And tense moments. 28 00:01:04,998 --> 00:01:07,467 - At 2:00 in the morning, some bitch called his phone. 29 00:01:07,534 --> 00:01:10,604 He had numerous bitches calling him. 30 00:01:10,671 --> 00:01:11,805 - How is your guys' relationship now? 31 00:01:11,872 --> 00:01:13,207 You guys cool? 32 00:01:13,273 --> 00:01:15,008 - I'ma be a butt with you. - Don't you do it. 33 00:01:15,075 --> 00:01:16,877 - Oh. 34 00:01:16,944 --> 00:01:18,779 - Plus, I flew to Tennessee to sit down with Ryan 35 00:01:18,846 --> 00:01:20,948 to discuss his treatment and recovery. 36 00:01:21,014 --> 00:01:23,016 - Are you proceeding with the divorce? 37 00:01:23,083 --> 00:01:26,253 - Will this be the final chapter for our moms? 38 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:28,889 - I have to feel like it comes from a place of being genuine, 39 00:01:28,956 --> 00:01:30,858 because I'm not a [bleep]. 40 00:01:30,924 --> 00:01:32,893 - At this point, I don't give a [bleep]. 41 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:34,661 Like, I just-- I don't give a [bleep]. 42 00:01:34,728 --> 00:01:39,433 - "Teen Mom: The Next Chapter Reunion" starts now. 43 00:01:39,499 --> 00:01:42,402 [upbeat rock music] 44 00:01:42,469 --> 00:01:46,073 ♪♪ ♪♪ 45 00:01:46,139 --> 00:01:47,374 - Welcome, everyone, 46 00:01:47,441 --> 00:01:49,977 to "Teen Mom: The Next Chapter Reunion." 47 00:01:50,043 --> 00:01:52,412 I'm your host, Dr. Drew, with my co-host here, Nessa. 48 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:55,749 In this chapter, the moms face new dilemmas, 49 00:01:55,816 --> 00:01:57,017 establish important boundaries. 50 00:01:57,084 --> 00:01:59,119 They grew stronger along the way. 51 00:01:59,186 --> 00:02:02,122 - Tonight, all of the moms will be joining us individually, 52 00:02:02,189 --> 00:02:03,991 and our hope is to get to a place 53 00:02:04,057 --> 00:02:06,360 where we can have everyone out here together. 54 00:02:06,426 --> 00:02:08,228 Are they ready to put the drama behind them? 55 00:02:08,295 --> 00:02:09,229 We'll find out. 56 00:02:09,296 --> 00:02:10,998 There's a ton to get into. 57 00:02:11,064 --> 00:02:13,200 So let's welcome our first mom, Jade. 58 00:02:13,267 --> 00:02:15,369 - Hi. - Hi, Jade. 59 00:02:15,435 --> 00:02:18,338 So I heard you're fresh off your bachelorette party. 60 00:02:18,405 --> 00:02:20,574 - It was so much fun. It was amazing. 61 00:02:20,641 --> 00:02:22,709 - Best part about it? 62 00:02:22,776 --> 00:02:25,212 - One iconic moment that just explained the whole trip-- 63 00:02:25,279 --> 00:02:28,215 as we're doing our boat cruise, and I'm like, 64 00:02:28,282 --> 00:02:30,551 I'm about to jump in the water, I rip my whole weave out, 65 00:02:30,617 --> 00:02:32,519 and the captain turns around, and is like-- 66 00:02:32,586 --> 00:02:34,188 and we're all just cracking up. 67 00:02:34,254 --> 00:02:35,322 Like, the weave was everywhere, 68 00:02:35,389 --> 00:02:36,456 like, throughout the whole trip. 69 00:02:36,523 --> 00:02:37,624 - So you had a great time. - Yes. 70 00:02:37,691 --> 00:02:38,892 It was so much fun. 71 00:02:38,959 --> 00:02:40,861 - Well, we have your man and your mom here. 72 00:02:40,928 --> 00:02:42,763 Let's go ahead and bring them out right now. 73 00:02:42,829 --> 00:02:46,633 Please welcome Sean and Christy. 74 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:48,468 Welcome, welcome. - Thank you, you as well. 75 00:02:48,535 --> 00:02:49,803 - Hi. - How's it going? 76 00:02:49,870 --> 00:02:51,205 - Hi. 77 00:02:51,271 --> 00:02:53,440 - Sean, congratulations on your sobriety. 78 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:55,242 Two years, right? - Yes, ma'am. 79 00:02:55,309 --> 00:02:56,877 - Is it two years now? - Yeah. 80 00:02:56,944 --> 00:02:58,612 August 10th was two years. - August 10th, your sober day. 81 00:02:58,679 --> 00:03:00,380 - Congrats, congrats. - Thank you. 82 00:03:00,447 --> 00:03:02,015 - But somebody else has joined him. 83 00:03:02,082 --> 00:03:05,419 - Christy, so great to see you. 84 00:03:05,485 --> 00:03:07,487 - How's it going? - I feel good. 85 00:03:07,554 --> 00:03:09,156 I have six months and five days clean. 86 00:03:09,223 --> 00:03:11,158 I was like, "I can't wait to tell Dr. Drew." 87 00:03:11,225 --> 00:03:12,359 [laughter] 88 00:03:12,426 --> 00:03:14,161 - I know, congratulations. 89 00:03:14,228 --> 00:03:15,996 We're going to talk about the road to Jade's wedding now. 90 00:03:16,063 --> 00:03:18,232 And of course, that had many ups and downs. 91 00:03:18,298 --> 00:03:20,601 Jade spent all season planning this wedding, 92 00:03:20,667 --> 00:03:22,369 but tension with Mom contributed 93 00:03:22,436 --> 00:03:23,670 to some stressful moments. 94 00:03:23,737 --> 00:03:25,138 Have a look at this. 95 00:03:25,205 --> 00:03:27,140 - Ah. - Oooh. 96 00:03:27,207 --> 00:03:29,476 - Well, it needs some more something. 97 00:03:29,543 --> 00:03:30,844 - That tattoo shining through, no. 98 00:03:30,911 --> 00:03:32,513 I don't know. I just don't like it. 99 00:03:32,579 --> 00:03:34,648 - My feelings are hurt. I felt like you was just-- 100 00:03:34,715 --> 00:03:37,684 you in there, yelling about the price. 101 00:03:37,751 --> 00:03:39,152 It's making me more stressed out. 102 00:03:39,219 --> 00:03:40,821 - I mean, it's your money. You spend it how you want. 103 00:03:40,888 --> 00:03:42,689 I just worry about you. That's all. 104 00:03:42,756 --> 00:03:44,324 - Yeah, but I feel like if I love it, 105 00:03:44,391 --> 00:03:45,559 like, can't you just let me love it, 106 00:03:45,626 --> 00:03:47,127 instead of putting in negative inputs? 107 00:03:47,194 --> 00:03:48,795 - No, I just want to Uber home. 108 00:03:48,862 --> 00:03:50,864 Let me the [bleep] out. - No, no, no, no, no. 109 00:03:50,931 --> 00:03:51,999 - You're literally screaming. 110 00:03:52,065 --> 00:03:53,767 We're in the middle of the road. 111 00:03:53,834 --> 00:03:55,536 - It does look freaking good. 112 00:03:55,602 --> 00:03:57,704 - Mmm. 113 00:03:57,771 --> 00:03:59,373 - [coughs] I'll be back. 114 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:02,309 I got to go outside. - Mom, sit down. 115 00:04:02,376 --> 00:04:05,946 I felt super lonely, and it made me, like, 116 00:04:06,013 --> 00:04:08,315 instantly regret inviting her. 117 00:04:08,382 --> 00:04:10,817 I felt like it was just like me feeling, 118 00:04:10,884 --> 00:04:12,352 like, abandoned and left. 119 00:04:12,419 --> 00:04:14,254 And it was, like, a little heartbreaking to me. 120 00:04:14,321 --> 00:04:16,657 [soft dramatic music] 121 00:04:16,723 --> 00:04:18,592 - I'm sorry, Jade. 122 00:04:20,127 --> 00:04:22,329 But I want her wedding to be, like, 123 00:04:22,396 --> 00:04:25,866 everything that she's ever dreamed of being from a kid, 124 00:04:25,933 --> 00:04:27,334 so I don't want to ruin that, you know? 125 00:04:27,401 --> 00:04:31,138 And going to rehab and changing my life 126 00:04:31,205 --> 00:04:33,273 is, like, the first step in making her 127 00:04:33,340 --> 00:04:34,575 have a happy life and Chloe. 128 00:04:34,641 --> 00:04:37,344 Because I want to be a part of it... 129 00:04:37,411 --> 00:04:39,246 - Yeah. - So... 130 00:04:39,313 --> 00:04:40,547 - Goodness. 131 00:04:40,614 --> 00:04:42,416 - When we were watching this past season, 132 00:04:42,482 --> 00:04:44,084 you seemed a bit upset with Jade, 133 00:04:44,151 --> 00:04:46,587 with how much money she was spending on her wedding. 134 00:04:46,653 --> 00:04:48,889 Why did it bother you so much? 135 00:04:48,956 --> 00:04:51,225 - I just don't want her to ever have to want for anything, 136 00:04:51,291 --> 00:04:52,426 or-- - I don't know. 137 00:04:52,492 --> 00:04:53,760 I feel like you were miserable, 138 00:04:53,827 --> 00:04:55,095 and you were just trying to [bleep] on my parade 139 00:04:55,162 --> 00:04:56,230 every chance you got. That's what it felt like. 140 00:04:56,296 --> 00:04:58,398 - I'm sorry. I--it may be. 141 00:04:58,465 --> 00:05:00,100 I don't-- - Yeah, you know when someone-- 142 00:05:00,167 --> 00:05:02,035 when you're internally, like, unhappy, 143 00:05:02,102 --> 00:05:03,504 it's like you would project that, 144 00:05:03,570 --> 00:05:05,472 and I would end the day-- my day would end bad 145 00:05:05,539 --> 00:05:07,741 every single time. - I'm very sorry about that. 146 00:05:07,808 --> 00:05:10,344 Yeah, those are some of the reasons 147 00:05:10,410 --> 00:05:11,778 that I went to rehab, you know, 148 00:05:11,845 --> 00:05:13,380 because I just didn't want to be that person, 149 00:05:13,447 --> 00:05:15,883 and I sure don't want anybody to--especially someone I love 150 00:05:15,949 --> 00:05:17,518 so much--to feel like that. 151 00:05:17,584 --> 00:05:18,952 - How's the gambling thing going? 152 00:05:19,019 --> 00:05:20,554 - I mean, I'm not gonna say I haven't gambled 153 00:05:20,621 --> 00:05:22,055 at all since I've been home. 154 00:05:22,122 --> 00:05:23,557 - You scare the [bleep] out of me with the gambling. 155 00:05:23,624 --> 00:05:24,825 - Yeah. 156 00:05:24,892 --> 00:05:26,193 - Because you minimize it so much. 157 00:05:26,260 --> 00:05:28,328 - It will lead you right back to your relapse, 158 00:05:28,395 --> 00:05:29,763 whether you want to believe it or not. 159 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:31,465 - I didn't even know that until she said it out loud. 160 00:05:31,532 --> 00:05:33,166 She just told me the other day she wasn't gambling. 161 00:05:33,233 --> 00:05:35,068 She just said it out loud on the stage she was. 162 00:05:35,135 --> 00:05:37,204 - No, I told you that I played bingo sometimes. 163 00:05:37,271 --> 00:05:38,639 - No. 164 00:05:38,705 --> 00:05:40,107 - You got to live a certain kind of life, 165 00:05:40,174 --> 00:05:41,675 and you got to work on rigorous honesty, 166 00:05:41,742 --> 00:05:42,876 rigorous honesty. - No, but I'm saying-- 167 00:05:42,943 --> 00:05:44,211 You keep doing that. 168 00:05:44,278 --> 00:05:46,113 It's like this endless cycle of manipulating, 169 00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:47,814 then to lying, then to--and then it's like-- 170 00:05:47,881 --> 00:05:49,383 - But am I gambling like I used to? 171 00:05:49,449 --> 00:05:51,752 Hell, no. - It's your recovery. 172 00:05:51,818 --> 00:05:53,520 If you were coming to me and asking for advice, 173 00:05:53,587 --> 00:05:55,656 I'd say some GA would really, really, really help you. 174 00:05:55,722 --> 00:05:58,225 - I wanted to go back to you, Jade. 175 00:05:58,292 --> 00:06:01,195 I know we saw a lot of stressful moments 176 00:06:01,261 --> 00:06:03,430 from your wedding experience, the whole process. 177 00:06:03,497 --> 00:06:06,099 Which part of the day are you looking forward to the most? 178 00:06:06,166 --> 00:06:07,868 - The moment when she walks down the aisle. 179 00:06:07,935 --> 00:06:09,069 I'm not gonna be able to keep it together. 180 00:06:09,136 --> 00:06:10,337 - Oh. 181 00:06:10,404 --> 00:06:11,505 - Like, I'm just excited for all these people 182 00:06:11,572 --> 00:06:12,840 to show up and be there, these people that 183 00:06:12,906 --> 00:06:14,074 have supported us for years. 184 00:06:14,141 --> 00:06:15,576 - Are you inviting people from the cast? 185 00:06:15,642 --> 00:06:17,711 - Yeah, Briana's actually in my wedding. 186 00:06:17,778 --> 00:06:18,879 She's one of my bridesmaids. 187 00:06:18,946 --> 00:06:20,214 - And Zach is one of my groomsmen. 188 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:21,481 - Yeah. - That's nice. 189 00:06:21,548 --> 00:06:22,716 - I was more nervous to ask him that 190 00:06:22,783 --> 00:06:23,851 than I was to ask her to marry me. 191 00:06:23,917 --> 00:06:26,386 [laughter] - Romance. 192 00:06:26,453 --> 00:06:28,889 - Well, congratulations, guys, and congratulations 193 00:06:28,956 --> 00:06:31,091 on six months and five days, Christy. 194 00:06:31,158 --> 00:06:32,559 It's a big, big deal. - I'm proud of us. 195 00:06:32,626 --> 00:06:34,628 - I am proud of us too. - Proud of you guys. 196 00:06:34,695 --> 00:06:37,164 - Coming up, Jade's dad, Corey, joins us to talk 197 00:06:37,231 --> 00:06:38,632 about his recovery process. 198 00:06:38,699 --> 00:06:41,235 Plus, we'll see if we can get all of our moms 199 00:06:41,301 --> 00:06:44,338 on stage together as we move forward into this new chapter 200 00:06:44,404 --> 00:06:45,973 of "Teen Mom." 201 00:06:46,039 --> 00:06:48,842 [upbeat music] 202 00:06:48,909 --> 00:06:51,078 - At 2:00 in the morning, some bitch called his phone. 203 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:52,813 He had numerous bitches calling him. 204 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,248 - Are we about to do this right now? 205 00:06:54,314 --> 00:06:57,584 ♪♪ ♪♪ 206 00:07:03,457 --> 00:07:05,225 - We're backstage. 207 00:07:05,292 --> 00:07:08,362 I don't know who got my dad to come down here, 208 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:11,064 but he's here. Dad, say hi to the girls. 209 00:07:11,131 --> 00:07:13,100 - Which girls? - The girls from the show. 210 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:14,635 - Where are they? - Just say hi. 211 00:07:14,701 --> 00:07:16,003 - Oh, hey, hey. How are you? 212 00:07:16,069 --> 00:07:17,871 - Oh, my gosh. - Come on. 213 00:07:17,938 --> 00:07:21,341 - Old people and technology, man. 214 00:07:21,408 --> 00:07:22,976 - We're back with more reunion. 215 00:07:23,043 --> 00:07:25,445 Jade, Sean, and Jade's mom, Christy, are here. 216 00:07:25,512 --> 00:07:27,981 And now joining them, let's welcome 217 00:07:28,048 --> 00:07:31,084 Jade's dad, Corey. Hi. 218 00:07:31,151 --> 00:07:33,420 - Hey, welcome to the party. - Yeah. 219 00:07:33,487 --> 00:07:36,390 Looks like an interesting one. - Corey, how are you? 220 00:07:36,456 --> 00:07:38,759 - I'm actually good. - It's so great to see you. 221 00:07:38,825 --> 00:07:40,527 And I'm really happy about your journey. 222 00:07:40,594 --> 00:07:42,896 It's really remarkable to see and-- 223 00:07:42,963 --> 00:07:44,131 - Remarkable is the word. 224 00:07:44,198 --> 00:07:45,966 Because the way these two described you, 225 00:07:46,033 --> 00:07:47,167 I thought you were dying, 226 00:07:47,234 --> 00:07:48,435 and it was all addiction, right? 227 00:07:48,502 --> 00:07:50,671 - Uh-huh, I know I gained over 30 pounds. 228 00:07:50,737 --> 00:07:51,905 - Oh, my goodness. 229 00:07:51,972 --> 00:07:53,073 - Thank God I didn't gain 30 pounds-- 230 00:07:53,140 --> 00:07:54,408 - [laughs] 231 00:07:54,474 --> 00:07:56,743 - Well, in the past, Jade supported Sean 232 00:07:56,810 --> 00:07:58,579 while he worked on his sobriety, 233 00:07:58,645 --> 00:08:00,814 and this season, it was her parents 234 00:08:00,881 --> 00:08:03,383 who needed the help, but the emotional toll 235 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:05,319 left Jade searching for her own support. 236 00:08:05,385 --> 00:08:06,720 Let's take a look. 237 00:08:06,787 --> 00:08:08,188 - Are you taking this seriously? 238 00:08:08,255 --> 00:08:11,992 Are you ready to to go and-- - Yeah. Yeah. 239 00:08:12,059 --> 00:08:14,428 I don't understand why you're asking me that. 240 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:16,096 - This is an opportunity to take control 241 00:08:16,163 --> 00:08:17,164 of your life back. 242 00:08:17,231 --> 00:08:18,765 This is a huge step for you, 243 00:08:18,832 --> 00:08:20,801 and I just hope you make the best of it. 244 00:08:20,868 --> 00:08:22,736 - When I first got here, I'm like, "These bitches." 245 00:08:22,803 --> 00:08:24,137 I would be pissed. 246 00:08:24,204 --> 00:08:25,939 But then, when you start getting the same awareness 247 00:08:26,006 --> 00:08:27,574 by a bunch of people at once, you're like, 248 00:08:27,641 --> 00:08:29,843 "Well, maybe I should take a look at that." 249 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:31,812 - I'm proud of you, Dad. 250 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:34,815 [tender music] 251 00:08:34,882 --> 00:08:37,117 ♪♪ ♪♪ 252 00:08:37,184 --> 00:08:40,120 I'm proud you're doing better. I want you to be here. 253 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:41,555 - So do I now. 254 00:08:41,622 --> 00:08:43,724 Because I didn't want to for a long time. 255 00:08:43,790 --> 00:08:45,792 - Hello? - Hello. 256 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:49,630 They talked to Mom about some of the concerns 257 00:08:49,696 --> 00:08:51,331 that we had, and they recommended 258 00:08:51,398 --> 00:08:52,833 her stay one more month. 259 00:08:52,900 --> 00:08:56,370 She just flips the [bleep] out, throws a [bleep] fit, 260 00:08:56,436 --> 00:08:58,572 and then signs a AWA 261 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:01,208 against medical advice to leave. 262 00:09:01,275 --> 00:09:04,077 After--after everything, all the sessions we've done 263 00:09:04,144 --> 00:09:07,114 and everything, 264 00:09:07,181 --> 00:09:09,583 it's like she just doesn't care. 265 00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:15,455 - Christy, bring us forward from that moment. 266 00:09:15,522 --> 00:09:18,525 - So I did sign an AMA. I didn't go through with it. 267 00:09:18,592 --> 00:09:21,628 What came to me was Corey was doing so great 268 00:09:21,695 --> 00:09:24,164 living in his co-ed sober living, 269 00:09:24,231 --> 00:09:28,402 and I was doing horrible in my prison, you know? 270 00:09:28,468 --> 00:09:31,805 And that I should stay another month 271 00:09:31,872 --> 00:09:33,841 because they didn't think that I was going to stay clean, 272 00:09:33,907 --> 00:09:35,375 and it really hurt my feelings. 273 00:09:35,442 --> 00:09:38,612 I was like, "You come and see me for one day, 274 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,548 and all of a sudden, all the work I put in is not--" 275 00:09:41,615 --> 00:09:42,816 You know what I mean? 276 00:09:42,883 --> 00:09:43,984 - How much longer did you stay after that? 277 00:09:44,051 --> 00:09:45,319 - I think 18 days. 278 00:09:45,385 --> 00:09:46,687 - You stayed a couple more weeks. 279 00:09:46,753 --> 00:09:48,355 - Like, should I have stayed 30 more days? 280 00:09:48,422 --> 00:09:49,923 Probably. 281 00:09:49,990 --> 00:09:52,226 - Corey, one of the things that just cut right through me, 282 00:09:52,292 --> 00:09:55,329 the sort of passive suicidality you had, 283 00:09:55,395 --> 00:09:56,997 how did you break out of that? 284 00:09:57,064 --> 00:09:58,699 - Once you start getting clean, your head just-- 285 00:09:58,765 --> 00:10:00,968 it gets clearer, you know? There's still times that-- 286 00:10:01,034 --> 00:10:02,503 when everything's not going right, 287 00:10:02,569 --> 00:10:03,704 I just feel like I don't give a [bleep] no more, 288 00:10:03,770 --> 00:10:05,305 but I do. 289 00:10:05,372 --> 00:10:06,640 Just got to keep working through it. 290 00:10:06,707 --> 00:10:09,476 - Tell me about Chloe's impact on your recovery. 291 00:10:09,543 --> 00:10:13,247 - Oh, I mean, I'm her favorite, so-- 292 00:10:13,313 --> 00:10:15,048 she'll tell you. 293 00:10:15,115 --> 00:10:19,086 - And how did that help you find motivation to get sober? 294 00:10:19,152 --> 00:10:20,554 - That was always my motivation, 295 00:10:20,621 --> 00:10:21,722 you know, just to make sure 296 00:10:21,788 --> 00:10:22,789 she didn't have to deal with that. 297 00:10:22,856 --> 00:10:24,391 - Can I say something? - Please. 298 00:10:24,458 --> 00:10:27,261 - Since we're all being honest here, that, like, to this day, 299 00:10:27,327 --> 00:10:29,563 he's not being honest about everything. 300 00:10:29,630 --> 00:10:31,899 Like the role that he played in the addiction and-- 301 00:10:31,965 --> 00:10:33,033 - In your addiction. 302 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:34,201 - He always pawned it off on me. 303 00:10:34,268 --> 00:10:35,903 I feel that it was always put on me 304 00:10:35,969 --> 00:10:39,439 like I was the ringleader. I was the problem. 305 00:10:39,506 --> 00:10:40,707 I was the bad one, 306 00:10:40,774 --> 00:10:44,044 and it's like he's 50 years old. 307 00:10:44,111 --> 00:10:46,046 Like, he's made his own decisions. 308 00:10:46,113 --> 00:10:48,382 And you know, he's done some things 309 00:10:48,448 --> 00:10:51,318 that I'm still not OK with to this day 310 00:10:51,385 --> 00:10:52,719 since he's been sober. 311 00:10:52,786 --> 00:10:53,987 - So are you talking about, like, private things 312 00:10:54,054 --> 00:10:54,988 within your marriage or something? 313 00:10:55,055 --> 00:10:56,256 - Yes. 314 00:10:56,323 --> 00:10:57,257 - What is she talking about, Corey? 315 00:10:57,324 --> 00:10:58,458 Do you know? 316 00:10:58,525 --> 00:11:00,060 - All the things that she thinks is-- 317 00:11:00,127 --> 00:11:02,196 it's a crock of [bleep], but I can't get it 318 00:11:02,262 --> 00:11:03,931 through her head. She just-- - I'll be honest. 319 00:11:03,997 --> 00:11:05,165 So when we got home... - She'll never believe me. 320 00:11:05,232 --> 00:11:06,366 - From rehab... 321 00:11:06,433 --> 00:11:07,768 - Are we about to do this right now? 322 00:11:07,835 --> 00:11:09,203 Like, I'm up here like-- 323 00:11:09,269 --> 00:11:11,071 - At 2:00 in the morning, some bitch called his phone. 324 00:11:11,138 --> 00:11:14,975 Then she's telling me that they're in co-ed sober living. 325 00:11:15,042 --> 00:11:16,243 I'm like, "What?" 326 00:11:16,310 --> 00:11:17,611 - I wasn't in sober living. It's co-ed. 327 00:11:17,678 --> 00:11:19,012 I told you it was-- PHP was co-ed-- 328 00:11:19,079 --> 00:11:20,280 - So they had girls living with him, 329 00:11:20,347 --> 00:11:22,149 and he had numerous bitches calling him. 330 00:11:22,216 --> 00:11:24,885 - You're assuming there is nefarious intent. 331 00:11:24,952 --> 00:11:26,587 These are people that were in treatment with him. 332 00:11:26,653 --> 00:11:28,055 - No, he lied about it. - What was the lie exactly? 333 00:11:28,121 --> 00:11:29,756 - What was the lie? Yeah. - He don't know who it is. 334 00:11:29,823 --> 00:11:31,758 He's never talked to her. He didn't give him his number. 335 00:11:31,825 --> 00:11:33,660 And it's like, you're lying, and you're sober. 336 00:11:33,727 --> 00:11:35,362 - If you were to go to a couples therapist, 337 00:11:35,429 --> 00:11:36,830 they would sit you guys down. 338 00:11:36,897 --> 00:11:38,699 - They would say you guys have lost your [bleep] minds. 339 00:11:38,765 --> 00:11:40,267 [laughter] 340 00:11:40,334 --> 00:11:42,002 - And the first thing they would say 341 00:11:42,069 --> 00:11:44,505 when you walked in the room is, "Are you guys going 342 00:11:44,571 --> 00:11:47,741 "to commit to stay together or is this going to separate? 343 00:11:47,808 --> 00:11:49,076 Which are we gonna do here?" 344 00:11:49,142 --> 00:11:51,111 - I mean, I do, yeah, but... - OK. 345 00:11:51,178 --> 00:11:52,112 - I don't know about her no more. 346 00:11:52,179 --> 00:11:53,380 - Christy? 347 00:11:53,447 --> 00:11:54,615 - It's OK not to know right now. 348 00:11:54,681 --> 00:11:55,716 - I don't know. - You don't know. OK. 349 00:11:55,782 --> 00:11:57,551 That's fair enough. Moving on. 350 00:11:57,618 --> 00:11:59,486 Jade, you've been in Al-Anon. 351 00:11:59,553 --> 00:12:01,455 I want you to, if you wouldn't mind, 352 00:12:01,522 --> 00:12:03,056 talk a little bit about the benefits, 353 00:12:03,123 --> 00:12:04,925 so anybody else who has family members out there 354 00:12:04,992 --> 00:12:06,293 can understand what this can do for you. 355 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,662 - Yeah, we talked about it a lot with filming, 356 00:12:08,729 --> 00:12:10,130 which I thought was so important. 357 00:12:10,197 --> 00:12:11,698 I was like, you know, like, I joined, you know, 358 00:12:11,765 --> 00:12:12,866 one that was just for all women. 359 00:12:12,933 --> 00:12:14,101 I just felt like that was good for me. 360 00:12:14,168 --> 00:12:15,302 There's all these different groups. 361 00:12:15,369 --> 00:12:16,870 There's a whole slew of them. 362 00:12:16,937 --> 00:12:19,673 But I feel like it helped just change 363 00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:22,209 my perspective because I realized I was angry. 364 00:12:22,276 --> 00:12:24,178 The anger that I had, it was like-- 365 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:26,880 it was, like, devouring me. Like, that's when I realized-- 366 00:12:26,947 --> 00:12:29,116 I was like, "I have got to do something about this." 367 00:12:29,183 --> 00:12:32,019 And really, Al-Anon was for me. It wasn't for anyone else. 368 00:12:32,085 --> 00:12:34,788 It was for my own internal, like, healing 369 00:12:34,855 --> 00:12:36,990 and for me to let go of, like, the anger. 370 00:12:37,057 --> 00:12:38,358 - Yeah. It's true. 371 00:12:38,425 --> 00:12:40,928 You feel committed to continuing 372 00:12:40,994 --> 00:12:42,829 to nurture things going forward? 373 00:12:42,896 --> 00:12:44,464 Is there a commitment here? - 100%. 374 00:12:44,531 --> 00:12:45,499 - 100%. - Yeah. 375 00:12:45,566 --> 00:12:47,367 - OK. - I'm there 100%. 376 00:12:47,434 --> 00:12:49,036 - I really want to have the family back. 377 00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:50,938 I don't want to be the way it used to be. 378 00:12:51,004 --> 00:12:53,707 - But I think we all have, like, this common denominator, 379 00:12:53,774 --> 00:12:55,142 which is Chloe. 380 00:12:55,209 --> 00:12:58,178 We all want Chloe to have a happy, healthy childhood. 381 00:12:58,245 --> 00:12:59,980 We want her to have a good life, 382 00:13:00,047 --> 00:13:02,549 and I feel like now we're all giving her what she deserves. 383 00:13:02,616 --> 00:13:04,618 - Well, it was amazing to see all of you 384 00:13:04,685 --> 00:13:06,286 and have this conversation. 385 00:13:06,353 --> 00:13:07,554 I'm proud of you guys. 386 00:13:07,621 --> 00:13:09,890 ♪♪ ♪♪ 387 00:13:09,957 --> 00:13:11,692 - Bentley! 388 00:13:11,758 --> 00:13:13,894 - Taylor didn't make it to the reunion this year. 389 00:13:13,961 --> 00:13:15,696 It is hard. Are you OK? 390 00:13:15,762 --> 00:13:17,064 - [sighs] 391 00:13:23,737 --> 00:13:26,673 [upbeat music] 392 00:13:26,740 --> 00:13:27,875 - Welcome back to 393 00:13:27,941 --> 00:13:29,510 the "Teen Mom: Next Chapter Reunion." 394 00:13:29,576 --> 00:13:31,879 Let's continue now with our next mom. 395 00:13:31,945 --> 00:13:34,781 Please welcome Maci. - Wow. 396 00:13:34,848 --> 00:13:36,884 So we've been through a lot this season, as always. 397 00:13:36,950 --> 00:13:39,853 - Yes. - How are you feeling? 398 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,088 - I feel good. - Yeah? 399 00:13:41,154 --> 00:13:42,456 - I'm feeling good. 400 00:13:42,523 --> 00:13:44,057 - Taylor didn't make it to the reunion this year. 401 00:13:44,124 --> 00:13:45,225 Why not? 402 00:13:45,292 --> 00:13:46,927 - He's at home with the other two. 403 00:13:46,994 --> 00:13:48,328 - I got to say, I worried-- 404 00:13:48,395 --> 00:13:50,397 I know Taylor just is very frustrated 405 00:13:50,464 --> 00:13:52,232 with Ryan's situation. - Yeah. 406 00:13:52,299 --> 00:13:55,302 - I don't think he fully gets how desperately ill Ryan is. 407 00:13:55,369 --> 00:13:56,737 - Yeah. 408 00:13:56,803 --> 00:13:58,972 - I worried that he didn't show up 'cause of that, 409 00:13:59,039 --> 00:14:00,908 like, he's had enough of it. Is that some of the reason? 410 00:14:00,974 --> 00:14:03,844 - You know, honestly, two months ago, 411 00:14:03,911 --> 00:14:05,445 I would have been like "Yeah, absolutely." 412 00:14:05,512 --> 00:14:06,813 - Yeah. 413 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,515 - It had to be a lot of communication involved. 414 00:14:08,582 --> 00:14:09,850 - You and Taylor? - Yes. 415 00:14:09,917 --> 00:14:13,453 - And really just making sure that us together, 416 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,256 we're a safe space for each other 417 00:14:16,323 --> 00:14:17,991 and for him to tell me how he's feeling 418 00:14:18,058 --> 00:14:19,092 and me... - Sure. 419 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:20,627 - To explain certain things 420 00:14:20,694 --> 00:14:22,629 and just be very graceful with each other. 421 00:14:22,696 --> 00:14:25,899 - Sure. - And that's helped a lot. 422 00:14:25,966 --> 00:14:29,369 I think he is much more understanding now. 423 00:14:29,436 --> 00:14:31,038 And especially, you'll be proud, 424 00:14:31,104 --> 00:14:33,507 I started Al-Anon. - Oh, we are so proud. 425 00:14:33,574 --> 00:14:34,775 We saw it. - What? 426 00:14:34,842 --> 00:14:37,110 - You've been begging her to go to Al-Anon. 427 00:14:37,177 --> 00:14:38,879 I wanted to go to Al-Anon for her. 428 00:14:38,946 --> 00:14:41,248 That's how much you've been talking about this. 429 00:14:41,315 --> 00:14:42,983 - My question is, what got you there? 430 00:14:43,050 --> 00:14:45,152 - Honestly, Jade. 431 00:14:45,219 --> 00:14:46,954 She and I were just FaceTiming, 432 00:14:47,020 --> 00:14:49,957 and she mentioned that she had started 433 00:14:50,023 --> 00:14:52,125 running classes for Al-Anon, 434 00:14:52,192 --> 00:14:53,293 and I was like, "Wait. 435 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,595 So you actually, like, did it?" 436 00:14:54,661 --> 00:14:56,363 And she's like, "Yes. And it's a game-changer. 437 00:14:56,430 --> 00:14:57,831 You should try it." - Of course. 438 00:14:57,898 --> 00:14:59,433 - Dr. Drew, you were right. 439 00:14:59,499 --> 00:15:01,034 I should have done it a long time ago. 440 00:15:01,101 --> 00:15:02,402 - It takes what it takes. 441 00:15:02,469 --> 00:15:03,770 I know people have to do it on their own terms. 442 00:15:03,837 --> 00:15:05,572 I understand. All right. 443 00:15:05,639 --> 00:15:07,307 Well, this season, Maci's co-parenting relationship 444 00:15:07,374 --> 00:15:09,543 with Ryan was better than ever, 445 00:15:09,610 --> 00:15:11,211 and Bentley was building a stronger 446 00:15:11,278 --> 00:15:13,547 relationship with his father, 447 00:15:13,614 --> 00:15:16,149 but just as everything was falling into place, 448 00:15:16,216 --> 00:15:19,253 Ryan relapsed, and he nearly lost his life. 449 00:15:19,319 --> 00:15:21,021 Let's take a look at this. 450 00:15:21,088 --> 00:15:23,524 - Can I take Bentley to dinner on Wednesday? 451 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:25,392 - I'm sure Bentley would love it. 452 00:15:25,459 --> 00:15:26,393 - All right, appreciate it. 453 00:15:26,460 --> 00:15:27,528 - All right. 454 00:15:27,594 --> 00:15:30,030 - So do you know exactly what's going on? 455 00:15:30,097 --> 00:15:32,099 MacKenzie and I are gonna get a divorce. 456 00:15:32,165 --> 00:15:34,735 [soft dramatic music] 457 00:15:34,801 --> 00:15:36,403 ♪♪ ♪♪ 458 00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:39,439 - Keep the focus in on you and all these crazy children-- 459 00:15:39,506 --> 00:15:42,176 - [chuckles] - And stay away from her. 460 00:15:42,242 --> 00:15:47,948 ♪♪ ♪♪ 461 00:15:55,255 --> 00:15:56,356 - You're being placed under arrest. 462 00:15:56,423 --> 00:15:57,858 - For what? 463 00:15:57,925 --> 00:15:58,926 - We have a warrant. 464 00:15:58,992 --> 00:16:01,261 - I can go to my house. 465 00:16:01,328 --> 00:16:03,096 - Not with an order of protection. 466 00:16:06,767 --> 00:16:08,502 - I'm scared. 467 00:16:08,569 --> 00:16:09,636 Anything could happen. 468 00:16:09,703 --> 00:16:12,306 I don't want to lose my only son. 469 00:16:12,372 --> 00:16:13,807 The man's made some mistakes. 470 00:16:13,874 --> 00:16:15,976 He's still my son. 471 00:16:16,043 --> 00:16:18,946 ♪♪ ♪♪ 472 00:16:19,012 --> 00:16:20,681 He's still my son. 473 00:16:20,747 --> 00:16:22,816 - I'm not gonna let this 474 00:16:22,883 --> 00:16:26,086 destroy any relationship with my kids. 475 00:16:26,153 --> 00:16:27,988 They don't deserve it. 476 00:16:28,055 --> 00:16:30,991 [siren wailing] 477 00:16:31,058 --> 00:16:37,764 ♪♪ ♪♪ 478 00:16:39,099 --> 00:16:41,835 - Having to have that conversation 479 00:16:41,902 --> 00:16:45,939 with Bentley-- I know how I felt hearing it, 480 00:16:46,006 --> 00:16:48,308 but Ryan's not my dad. 481 00:16:48,375 --> 00:16:51,778 So hard. [sobs] 482 00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:54,081 ♪♪ ♪♪ 483 00:16:56,717 --> 00:16:57,985 - It is hard. Are you OK? 484 00:16:58,051 --> 00:16:59,253 - Yeah. 485 00:16:59,319 --> 00:17:00,821 - This was heavy. 486 00:17:00,888 --> 00:17:03,624 - Well, unfortunately, Ryan could not be here 487 00:17:03,690 --> 00:17:05,592 with us today in person, 488 00:17:05,659 --> 00:17:08,195 but I did go to see him in Tennessee, 489 00:17:08,262 --> 00:17:10,030 talked to him one-on-one. 490 00:17:10,097 --> 00:17:13,300 I will share that conversation with everyone in just a bit. 491 00:17:13,367 --> 00:17:16,770 But first, we want to see how you're doing. 492 00:17:16,837 --> 00:17:19,339 - It's just a very helpless feeling. 493 00:17:19,406 --> 00:17:20,641 - Yeah. 494 00:17:20,707 --> 00:17:21,909 - Very scary. - It's the truth. 495 00:17:23,810 --> 00:17:25,979 - You can't just put a Band-Aid on it. 496 00:17:26,046 --> 00:17:27,814 That doesn't fix anything. 497 00:17:27,881 --> 00:17:32,519 Him overdosing-- there's truly no way-- 498 00:17:32,586 --> 00:17:35,756 [sobs] 499 00:17:35,822 --> 00:17:38,592 There's no way to describe... 500 00:17:42,329 --> 00:17:46,700 What that feels like when you know 501 00:17:46,767 --> 00:17:48,735 that that has happened. 502 00:17:48,802 --> 00:17:52,005 - Now, there's a part of this that's very challenging, 503 00:17:52,072 --> 00:17:53,607 which is Bentley. 504 00:17:53,674 --> 00:17:56,276 How did you tell him about this? 505 00:17:56,343 --> 00:17:57,411 How did you get him-- 506 00:17:57,477 --> 00:17:58,779 how do you get him to understand 507 00:17:58,846 --> 00:18:00,948 what this condition is? 508 00:18:01,014 --> 00:18:04,418 - Right now it works best to give the facts, 509 00:18:04,484 --> 00:18:09,122 but also therapy is a massive component. 510 00:18:09,189 --> 00:18:11,491 - So he's in therapy still? - Yes. 511 00:18:11,558 --> 00:18:13,560 - Well, Bentley is here. - Mm-hmm. 512 00:18:13,627 --> 00:18:15,963 - And I am so excited to invite him out here 513 00:18:16,029 --> 00:18:18,298 to join us so we can see how he's feeling 514 00:18:18,365 --> 00:18:19,600 about everything and how well he's doing. 515 00:18:19,666 --> 00:18:21,635 So please welcome Bentley. 516 00:18:21,702 --> 00:18:24,004 - Bentley. Hey, Bentley. 517 00:18:24,071 --> 00:18:25,239 - Hi. 518 00:18:25,305 --> 00:18:26,840 - Thank you for being here, my friend. 519 00:18:26,907 --> 00:18:28,475 And how are you doing? - Good. 520 00:18:28,542 --> 00:18:30,010 - Yeah. You're in high school now? 521 00:18:30,077 --> 00:18:32,079 How's that going? - Good. Really good. 522 00:18:32,145 --> 00:18:33,213 - Is it? - Yeah. 523 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,381 - And you're part of the golf team-- 524 00:18:34,448 --> 00:18:36,250 the high school golf team? - Yeah. 525 00:18:36,316 --> 00:18:37,317 - Is that the only sport you're playing? 526 00:18:37,384 --> 00:18:38,285 - I was going to say. - No. 527 00:18:38,352 --> 00:18:39,386 - Which ones are you playing? 528 00:18:39,453 --> 00:18:41,755 - Baseball and wrestling. - Cool. 529 00:18:41,822 --> 00:18:43,924 Well, I wanted to ask you, Bentley, with everything 530 00:18:43,991 --> 00:18:46,293 that's happened with your dad, have you had a chance to talk 531 00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:48,529 to him now and where he's at? 532 00:18:48,595 --> 00:18:49,630 - I talked to him the other day. 533 00:18:49,696 --> 00:18:51,164 He seemed--seemed good. 534 00:18:51,231 --> 00:18:52,165 - Back to his old self? - Yeah. 535 00:18:52,232 --> 00:18:53,634 - Yeah. 536 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:55,469 - For other, maybe, teenagers or parents 537 00:18:55,536 --> 00:18:58,605 who are watching right now, and if they're wondering 538 00:18:58,672 --> 00:19:00,807 if they should go to therapy, do you feel like 539 00:19:00,874 --> 00:19:02,776 therapy has helped you? 540 00:19:02,843 --> 00:19:05,145 - I would tell them to do it, just because, I mean-- 541 00:19:05,212 --> 00:19:06,180 - Yeah. 542 00:19:06,246 --> 00:19:09,116 - I'm so proud of him because-- 543 00:19:09,183 --> 00:19:12,586 I feel like, especially, with everything, you know, 544 00:19:12,653 --> 00:19:15,255 not just his dad, but TV show and sports 545 00:19:15,322 --> 00:19:19,193 and just all the things, and him just sticking with it, 546 00:19:19,259 --> 00:19:20,527 he's just-- he's built different. 547 00:19:20,594 --> 00:19:22,029 [laughs] 548 00:19:22,095 --> 00:19:23,497 - Have you noticed, though, a difference 549 00:19:23,564 --> 00:19:25,165 ever since you had that talk with your mom? 550 00:19:25,232 --> 00:19:27,367 Like with your grandparents-- does it feel like 551 00:19:27,434 --> 00:19:28,635 everybody's working together? 552 00:19:28,702 --> 00:19:30,437 - Yeah, like not so much against each other. 553 00:19:30,504 --> 00:19:31,505 - Yeah. - Yeah. 554 00:19:31,572 --> 00:19:33,073 - How important is that for you. 555 00:19:33,140 --> 00:19:34,141 - It's pretty important. - Yeah. 556 00:19:34,208 --> 00:19:35,375 - Yeah. 557 00:19:35,442 --> 00:19:37,911 - Thanks for letting me know. - Yeah. 558 00:19:37,978 --> 00:19:39,880 - Once Dad is back home, what do you look forward 559 00:19:39,947 --> 00:19:42,382 to doing with him? - Probably playing some golf. 560 00:19:42,449 --> 00:19:44,618 - Is your dad good at playing golf? 561 00:19:44,685 --> 00:19:46,920 - He's all right. - He's OK. 562 00:19:46,987 --> 00:19:48,088 Are you better? - Yeah. 563 00:19:48,155 --> 00:19:49,990 - You're better. OK. 564 00:19:50,057 --> 00:19:51,425 - Well, Bentley, it's just great 565 00:19:51,491 --> 00:19:52,626 seeing you doing so well. 566 00:19:52,693 --> 00:19:53,961 We just wanted to check in with you. 567 00:19:54,027 --> 00:19:56,330 And we'll see--you know, we'll see how Dad does. 568 00:19:56,396 --> 00:19:58,131 - Yeah. 569 00:19:58,198 --> 00:19:59,399 - Hopefully, you have a good golf season, 570 00:19:59,466 --> 00:20:00,734 and he'll be joining you later in the season. 571 00:20:00,801 --> 00:20:02,002 - Yep. 572 00:20:02,069 --> 00:20:03,570 - It's always so good to see you, Bentley. 573 00:20:03,637 --> 00:20:06,106 - More with Maci when the Edwards join the stage, 574 00:20:06,173 --> 00:20:08,041 and we chat with Ryan later in the show. 575 00:20:08,108 --> 00:20:10,110 - I didn't go and get my butt done, 576 00:20:10,177 --> 00:20:11,745 and if I wanted to go get my butt done, 577 00:20:11,812 --> 00:20:13,480 what difference does it make to you? 578 00:20:13,547 --> 00:20:16,750 - I was always, like, in the back of my mind 579 00:20:16,817 --> 00:20:18,852 thinking I'm gonna lose my child. 580 00:20:18,919 --> 00:20:20,220 ♪♪ ♪♪ 581 00:20:20,287 --> 00:20:22,122 - Oh. 582 00:20:27,761 --> 00:20:30,697 [upbeat music] 583 00:20:30,764 --> 00:20:32,666 ♪♪ ♪♪ 584 00:20:32,733 --> 00:20:34,535 - I think that would fit in the car. 585 00:20:34,601 --> 00:20:36,637 - What? - That sign. 586 00:20:36,703 --> 00:20:39,540 - You want to take it home? - I want to take it home. 587 00:20:39,606 --> 00:20:40,941 - Chey, you look amazing. - Thank you. 588 00:20:41,008 --> 00:20:42,509 - You look great. 589 00:20:42,576 --> 00:20:45,345 Welcome back to the "Teen Mom: Next Chapter Reunion." 590 00:20:45,412 --> 00:20:48,148 Please welcome our next mom, Cheyenne. 591 00:20:48,215 --> 00:20:49,950 Hey, Chey. - Hi, guys. 592 00:20:50,017 --> 00:20:51,952 - How are you? - I'm good. 593 00:20:52,019 --> 00:20:53,787 - Eventful season. - Yeah, it was. 594 00:20:53,854 --> 00:20:56,156 - How's the new house, mom life? 595 00:20:56,223 --> 00:20:57,891 How's everything going? - It's good. 596 00:20:57,958 --> 00:20:59,993 It's overwhelming. What about you? 597 00:21:00,060 --> 00:21:02,029 Last time I saw you, you literally just had a baby. 598 00:21:02,095 --> 00:21:03,897 - I know, and it still feels like that 599 00:21:03,964 --> 00:21:05,232 because I'm so tired, 600 00:21:05,299 --> 00:21:08,302 but it's good, blessed, but definitely work. 601 00:21:08,368 --> 00:21:09,803 - Yeah. - We have a lot to talk about. 602 00:21:09,870 --> 00:21:11,371 A lot going on in your life. - Yeah. 603 00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:15,108 - And the dynamic has evolved between you and Cory, 604 00:21:15,175 --> 00:21:16,910 and now they are a great example 605 00:21:16,977 --> 00:21:18,278 of successful co-parenting. 606 00:21:18,345 --> 00:21:20,514 So let's bring Cory out. 607 00:21:20,581 --> 00:21:23,984 - Yeah, dad of the year coming through, baby. 608 00:21:24,051 --> 00:21:25,552 I guess I'll join you guys. 609 00:21:25,619 --> 00:21:27,321 - Thank you. - Welcome. 610 00:21:27,387 --> 00:21:28,722 - Yeah, welcome. 611 00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:30,290 Before we get into anything, how is Maya doing? 612 00:21:30,357 --> 00:21:31,525 - Maya is doing great. - Yeah. 613 00:21:31,592 --> 00:21:32,726 - She's doing great. 614 00:21:32,793 --> 00:21:33,760 - We're gonna talk more about it 615 00:21:33,827 --> 00:21:35,062 when Taylor comes out here, 616 00:21:35,128 --> 00:21:36,230 but it's great to know that she's doing OK. 617 00:21:36,296 --> 00:21:37,831 - Yeah. 618 00:21:37,898 --> 00:21:40,467 - You and Cheyenne have had a kind of a rocky road at times. 619 00:21:40,534 --> 00:21:41,668 Now things are good. 620 00:21:41,735 --> 00:21:43,537 Tell people how you got there. 621 00:21:43,604 --> 00:21:46,740 - A strong foundation and a lot of respect, 622 00:21:46,807 --> 00:21:50,077 and you're gonna have bad days, good days, 623 00:21:50,143 --> 00:21:52,346 but we always put Ryder first 'cause We love Ry. 624 00:21:52,412 --> 00:21:53,947 - You're about to live down the street now. 625 00:21:54,014 --> 00:21:56,617 - I know. - Wait. Why? What's going on? 626 00:21:56,683 --> 00:21:58,352 - I bought me a little bit of dirt, baby. 627 00:21:58,418 --> 00:21:59,887 - Let's go. - Bought me some dirt. 628 00:21:59,953 --> 00:22:01,522 - Congratulations. - Yeah. 629 00:22:01,588 --> 00:22:03,290 Thank you. - It's amazing. 630 00:22:03,357 --> 00:22:05,959 - Being neighbors may make co-parenting easier, 631 00:22:06,026 --> 00:22:08,829 but nothing could prepare these two for just how hard 632 00:22:08,896 --> 00:22:11,064 it would be for Ryder when Cory decided 633 00:22:11,131 --> 00:22:13,500 to return to "The Challenge." 634 00:22:13,567 --> 00:22:15,402 - Hey. - Hey. 635 00:22:15,469 --> 00:22:17,804 - What's up, friend? - Dad. 636 00:22:17,871 --> 00:22:19,740 - [laughs] 637 00:22:19,806 --> 00:22:23,844 - Daddy, I'm sad that you left on my birthday, 638 00:22:23,911 --> 00:22:25,445 my real birthday. 639 00:22:25,512 --> 00:22:27,614 [tender music] 640 00:22:27,681 --> 00:22:29,917 - I know you're sad. I'm sad for me. 641 00:22:29,983 --> 00:22:32,152 - And I cried. I missed you. 642 00:22:32,219 --> 00:22:33,587 - Guess what? 643 00:22:33,654 --> 00:22:35,923 Daddy cries here because I miss you so much. 644 00:22:35,989 --> 00:22:37,891 I'll be home before you know it. 645 00:22:37,958 --> 00:22:41,461 - I love you, Dada! 646 00:22:41,528 --> 00:22:43,130 - Why are you crying? 647 00:22:43,197 --> 00:22:45,265 What made it so emotional for you, Cory? 648 00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:49,203 - [sighs] 649 00:22:49,269 --> 00:22:51,004 So I want to do what I feel is right, 650 00:22:51,071 --> 00:22:53,774 and you know, you just want to do what's best 651 00:22:53,841 --> 00:22:58,045 for your kids, and so, obviously, "The Challenge"-- 652 00:22:58,111 --> 00:23:00,214 I got to-- I wanted to go. 653 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,748 It's how me and Cheyenne met. 654 00:23:01,815 --> 00:23:04,985 It's a big part of my life. It's also a job, right? 655 00:23:05,052 --> 00:23:07,754 - Do you feel guilt? - Yeah, 100%. 656 00:23:07,821 --> 00:23:10,023 It's just-- it goes back to, like... 657 00:23:10,090 --> 00:23:11,391 [sighs] 658 00:23:11,458 --> 00:23:13,627 goes back to me not having a dad growing up. 659 00:23:13,694 --> 00:23:15,162 - Right. 660 00:23:15,229 --> 00:23:17,531 - That feeling of, like, being abandoned 661 00:23:17,598 --> 00:23:19,700 and, like, just-- me not being there for her. 662 00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:21,134 - If you were gone-gone, 663 00:23:21,201 --> 00:23:22,236 well, that's a whole different story. 664 00:23:22,302 --> 00:23:23,504 - Right. 665 00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:24,571 - You went to work for a couple of weeks. 666 00:23:24,638 --> 00:23:26,340 - And she had bad days, 667 00:23:26,406 --> 00:23:28,475 but she had plenty more good days. 668 00:23:28,542 --> 00:23:29,877 - Yeah. - Yeah. 669 00:23:29,943 --> 00:23:31,411 - And of course, effective co-parenting 670 00:23:31,478 --> 00:23:33,113 is easier with supportive partners. 671 00:23:33,180 --> 00:23:35,382 And today, yours are here with us, 672 00:23:35,449 --> 00:23:36,550 so let's bring them out. 673 00:23:36,617 --> 00:23:38,552 Welcome Cheyenne's husband, Zach, 674 00:23:38,619 --> 00:23:40,354 and Cory's girlfriend, Taylor. 675 00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:41,655 - We missed you guys. 676 00:23:41,722 --> 00:23:43,290 [applause] 677 00:23:43,357 --> 00:23:45,259 - What up, baby? - Hey, babe. 678 00:23:45,325 --> 00:23:47,261 [applause] 679 00:23:47,327 --> 00:23:49,396 - Thank you so much for being with us. 680 00:23:49,463 --> 00:23:51,465 Both families had a lot going on this season. 681 00:23:51,532 --> 00:23:54,568 Cheyenne and Zach dealt with the aftermath of the shooting. 682 00:23:54,635 --> 00:23:57,504 They were hopeful a plea deal would end things quickly, 683 00:23:57,571 --> 00:24:00,807 but the defendant refused, and they were forced to deal 684 00:24:00,874 --> 00:24:02,276 with the stress of the trial. 685 00:24:02,342 --> 00:24:03,911 Take a look. - All right. 686 00:24:03,977 --> 00:24:05,212 He said "Good morning. 687 00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:06,847 "I spoke with the defense counsel briefly. 688 00:24:06,914 --> 00:24:08,315 "He informed me that the defense 689 00:24:08,382 --> 00:24:09,616 "does not want the offer. 690 00:24:09,683 --> 00:24:11,618 We're looking at trial this summer." 691 00:24:11,685 --> 00:24:13,353 - I feel like I put so much energy 692 00:24:13,420 --> 00:24:14,821 into thinking that this nightmare 693 00:24:14,888 --> 00:24:16,190 was gonna be over today, 694 00:24:16,256 --> 00:24:19,126 and then it's just not. - Yeah. 695 00:24:19,193 --> 00:24:20,460 - All right, Cheyenne, 696 00:24:20,527 --> 00:24:21,929 what's the latest with the trial? 697 00:24:21,995 --> 00:24:25,799 - The defendant decided to take a plea, 698 00:24:25,866 --> 00:24:28,235 and the trial will be over. 699 00:24:28,302 --> 00:24:29,603 It's been two years. 700 00:24:29,670 --> 00:24:31,672 - You did share some footage with the producers 701 00:24:31,738 --> 00:24:33,674 that I've not seen yet. - Yeah. 702 00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:35,175 I think a lot of people have asked 703 00:24:35,242 --> 00:24:36,510 "Did it actually happen?" 704 00:24:36,577 --> 00:24:39,179 And it did. - It's pretty dramatic. 705 00:24:39,246 --> 00:24:42,115 - Ooh. - Oh, my goodness. 706 00:24:42,182 --> 00:24:44,518 Are you OK? - Yeah. 707 00:24:44,585 --> 00:24:48,021 It's just like, "Wow, did that really happen?" 708 00:24:48,088 --> 00:24:49,823 - It was a lot this season. 709 00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:51,825 And then we had a chance to see you 710 00:24:51,892 --> 00:24:54,561 reaching out to Ashley, to have a phone call, 711 00:24:54,628 --> 00:24:57,564 something that your dad spoke to you about, right? 712 00:24:57,631 --> 00:24:59,566 - How are you and Ashley doing? You guys have not spoken. 713 00:24:59,633 --> 00:25:01,168 - No. 714 00:25:01,235 --> 00:25:02,569 - You might want to reach out to her. 715 00:25:02,636 --> 00:25:03,971 Just say hello. 716 00:25:05,506 --> 00:25:07,441 - I don't know how to reach out to a person 717 00:25:07,508 --> 00:25:09,943 where I feel like they went too low for me. 718 00:25:10,010 --> 00:25:11,044 - Here's the deal, though, Chey. 719 00:25:11,111 --> 00:25:12,779 Hurt people do hurt people. 720 00:25:12,846 --> 00:25:14,214 When you try to make things right, 721 00:25:14,281 --> 00:25:17,217 your vibration gets higher. Just think about it. 722 00:25:18,685 --> 00:25:20,020 - Hello? 723 00:25:20,087 --> 00:25:21,889 - Hey, it's Cheyenne. 724 00:25:21,955 --> 00:25:24,157 I was hoping we could have a conversation. 725 00:25:24,224 --> 00:25:26,793 - Um, yeah. What's up? 726 00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:27,961 - I feel like we probably should have 727 00:25:28,028 --> 00:25:29,429 talked a long time ago, 728 00:25:29,496 --> 00:25:32,566 and I think it was best to let things kind of 729 00:25:32,633 --> 00:25:35,002 calm down and let the temperature die down 730 00:25:35,068 --> 00:25:38,372 before, at least for me, before I reached out. 731 00:25:38,438 --> 00:25:41,308 - To be honest, I really don't have anything to say to you. 732 00:25:41,375 --> 00:25:43,210 [soft dramatic music] 733 00:25:43,277 --> 00:25:45,879 I don't appreciate how you treated me, 734 00:25:45,946 --> 00:25:50,050 and that's really as far as I'm willing to take 735 00:25:50,117 --> 00:25:51,718 the conversation. 736 00:25:51,785 --> 00:25:53,820 - OK. I respect that. 737 00:25:53,887 --> 00:25:55,355 - Yeah, I think this is a door 738 00:25:55,422 --> 00:25:58,225 that I would just like to remain closed. 739 00:25:58,292 --> 00:25:59,893 - Cheyenne, your thoughts? 740 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:01,929 - She had a lot to say about me, 741 00:26:01,995 --> 00:26:05,532 and she went really low, in my opinion. 742 00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:07,568 - Is this what she was talking about, 743 00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,603 the shooting sort of been staged so you could 744 00:26:09,670 --> 00:26:10,804 have some repairs or something? 745 00:26:10,871 --> 00:26:12,506 - Right. I had surgery. 746 00:26:12,573 --> 00:26:16,977 The airbags crushed my breasts, and my muscles were collapsed, 747 00:26:17,044 --> 00:26:20,948 and in order to fix them, they had to remove my implants 748 00:26:21,014 --> 00:26:23,717 and scrape out a year of scar tissue 749 00:26:23,784 --> 00:26:25,586 because I waited too long to get it, 750 00:26:25,652 --> 00:26:28,188 and they used fat to replace that. 751 00:26:28,255 --> 00:26:30,257 I didn't go and get my butt done, 752 00:26:30,324 --> 00:26:31,892 and if I wanted to go get my butt done, 753 00:26:31,959 --> 00:26:34,027 what difference does it make to you? 754 00:26:34,094 --> 00:26:35,495 It shouldn't. 755 00:26:35,562 --> 00:26:37,865 - Not saying that you have to make all the amends, 756 00:26:37,931 --> 00:26:41,235 but do you understand maybe why she would feel hurt 757 00:26:41,301 --> 00:26:43,237 after being disinvited to your wedding? 758 00:26:43,303 --> 00:26:46,173 - I understand that we shot "Family Reunion." 759 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,875 Things went crazy there. 760 00:26:47,941 --> 00:26:50,244 And yes, I texted her and told her 761 00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:53,313 I didn't think that it was best for you to come to my wedding. 762 00:26:53,380 --> 00:26:56,517 She responded and said she already uninvited herself. 763 00:26:56,583 --> 00:26:58,352 So if you uninvited yourself, how-- 764 00:26:58,418 --> 00:27:00,120 how could you be that hurt? 765 00:27:00,187 --> 00:27:02,623 In either way, in the long run, when I look at it, 766 00:27:02,689 --> 00:27:04,291 I wouldn't want a person like that 767 00:27:04,358 --> 00:27:05,692 to come to my wedding. 768 00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:07,561 If you can go that low to talk about 769 00:27:07,628 --> 00:27:09,530 the worst day of my life, a day that involves 770 00:27:09,596 --> 00:27:11,832 my children, a day that we all could have died, 771 00:27:11,899 --> 00:27:13,200 pick something else. 772 00:27:13,267 --> 00:27:15,169 - Zach, do you have any insight into all this? 773 00:27:15,235 --> 00:27:17,804 - I feel like Chey has, you know, played her part. 774 00:27:17,871 --> 00:27:19,940 She extended herself multiple times. 775 00:27:20,007 --> 00:27:21,575 And like she said, she's never done anything. 776 00:27:21,642 --> 00:27:24,111 - Are you open to following your dad's advice 777 00:27:24,178 --> 00:27:26,013 while we're all out here for the reunion? 778 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:27,114 - Of course. 779 00:27:27,181 --> 00:27:28,448 - Having a conversation with her? 780 00:27:28,515 --> 00:27:30,584 - I think that a conversation would be great. 781 00:27:30,651 --> 00:27:31,618 - You were willing to apologize? 782 00:27:31,685 --> 00:27:32,953 - Yes, 783 00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:35,822 if she could articulate to me why I hurt her 784 00:27:35,889 --> 00:27:38,425 or how I hurt her, yes, I can apologize for that. 785 00:27:38,492 --> 00:27:40,527 - OK. We'll see. 786 00:27:40,594 --> 00:27:43,463 But first, we're going to talk everything Cory and Taylor 787 00:27:43,530 --> 00:27:46,333 went through this season as they faced every parent's 788 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,570 worst nightmare, when baby Maya underwent open-heart surgery. 789 00:27:49,636 --> 00:27:51,004 Let's take a look at this. 790 00:27:51,071 --> 00:27:57,711 ♪♪ ♪♪ 791 00:27:57,778 --> 00:27:59,446 - I try to stay positive, but I get overwhelmed 792 00:27:59,513 --> 00:28:01,215 with the negatives too. 793 00:28:01,281 --> 00:28:04,084 - She's gonna be fine. You know that she is. 794 00:28:04,151 --> 00:28:06,453 - Yeah, but it's scary. 795 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,888 - I know. 796 00:28:07,955 --> 00:28:11,058 ♪♪ ♪♪ 797 00:28:11,124 --> 00:28:13,427 - I feel like last time when you and I talked, 798 00:28:13,493 --> 00:28:16,296 like, you're way more, like, aware and open 799 00:28:16,363 --> 00:28:18,265 with your feelings, where then I'll text Cory, 800 00:28:18,332 --> 00:28:20,434 and he's like, "Fine, fine, fine." 801 00:28:20,501 --> 00:28:22,803 - He does that with me. He does that with me. 802 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:24,805 - I don't like to burden people with my-- 803 00:28:24,872 --> 00:28:27,508 - Its not a burden. - That's what men do. 804 00:28:27,574 --> 00:28:28,842 - We've been in different situations, 805 00:28:28,909 --> 00:28:31,445 but I've harvested them to where 806 00:28:31,512 --> 00:28:33,113 it's like, something triggered me, 807 00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:35,282 and I just blew up. 808 00:28:35,349 --> 00:28:37,050 I don't want to see you go through that. 809 00:28:37,117 --> 00:28:38,852 - We're just worried about you. 810 00:28:38,919 --> 00:28:41,154 - You guys can see she's hooked up 811 00:28:41,221 --> 00:28:44,858 to a lot, to say the least. 812 00:28:44,925 --> 00:28:47,461 The ventilator's over there. 813 00:28:47,528 --> 00:28:49,229 My little princess. 814 00:28:49,296 --> 00:28:52,599 - Oh, I'm so glad that that's over, and we're home, 815 00:28:52,666 --> 00:28:54,668 and we're here to stay. 816 00:28:54,735 --> 00:28:56,470 We're here to stay, girl. 817 00:28:56,537 --> 00:28:59,239 You made it. You did it. 818 00:28:59,306 --> 00:29:02,576 - Oh, oh, my goodness. - Oh. 819 00:29:02,643 --> 00:29:05,112 - Taylor, I saw that take you right back. 820 00:29:05,179 --> 00:29:08,749 - I was always, like, in the back of my mind, 821 00:29:08,815 --> 00:29:10,751 thinking, I'm gonna lose my child. 822 00:29:10,817 --> 00:29:13,187 Like-- 823 00:29:16,723 --> 00:29:19,793 Sorry, I still kind of, like, think like that. 824 00:29:19,860 --> 00:29:23,797 So--like, the reality is, 825 00:29:23,864 --> 00:29:25,399 she needs another one, you know? 826 00:29:25,465 --> 00:29:26,867 So-- 827 00:29:26,934 --> 00:29:28,869 - So she has a surgery when she's three, right? 828 00:29:28,936 --> 00:29:31,572 - Yeah. - Three or 35 pounds. 829 00:29:31,638 --> 00:29:32,873 - And that's a bigger procedure. 830 00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:34,241 - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. 831 00:29:34,308 --> 00:29:36,343 - I'm worrying about Cory next time through this. 832 00:29:36,410 --> 00:29:38,645 - I was depressed. - I can see it. 833 00:29:38,712 --> 00:29:40,447 - But I wanted to be there to support her. 834 00:29:40,514 --> 00:29:41,782 - How did you get through it? 835 00:29:41,849 --> 00:29:42,916 - I went to therapy. - OK. 836 00:29:42,983 --> 00:29:44,518 - Yeah. - Because I'm wondering-- 837 00:29:44,585 --> 00:29:46,119 - You'll be proud of me. 838 00:29:46,186 --> 00:29:49,089 - I am proud of you because it felt like a lot to just lift. 839 00:29:49,156 --> 00:29:52,626 - Can I say this real quick too? 840 00:29:52,693 --> 00:29:57,431 We are so grateful and thankful for you guys. 841 00:29:57,497 --> 00:29:59,266 - Aww. - Yeah. 842 00:29:59,333 --> 00:30:01,835 I know if I needed something, I could call them, 843 00:30:01,902 --> 00:30:03,937 and they would do whatever they could to help us out. 844 00:30:04,004 --> 00:30:05,239 Appreciate it. - Anytime. 845 00:30:05,305 --> 00:30:06,773 - We're always here. 846 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,610 - Thankfully, Maya's surgery that we saw was successful. 847 00:30:09,676 --> 00:30:12,479 How is she doing today? - She's doing great. 848 00:30:12,546 --> 00:30:14,648 - She's hitting all her milestones. 849 00:30:14,715 --> 00:30:17,784 She's not walking yet, but she's getting there. 850 00:30:17,851 --> 00:30:19,253 - Well, you guys are doing an amazing job. 851 00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:21,421 Before we wrap up this conversation, 852 00:30:21,488 --> 00:30:23,590 I do want to take a moment to celebrate 853 00:30:23,657 --> 00:30:27,494 this beautiful family photo that you posted. 854 00:30:27,561 --> 00:30:29,062 That was powerful. 855 00:30:29,129 --> 00:30:31,231 - I'm so proud of all of us, 856 00:30:31,298 --> 00:30:33,367 and I'm so happy that were able to be 857 00:30:33,433 --> 00:30:36,170 on a platform that can show healthy co-parenting 858 00:30:36,236 --> 00:30:37,704 and that it can be done. 859 00:30:37,771 --> 00:30:39,206 - It takes work to get this done. 860 00:30:39,273 --> 00:30:41,175 So thank you so much for being honest with us. 861 00:30:41,241 --> 00:30:42,476 - Thank you, guys. 862 00:30:42,543 --> 00:30:44,011 - Well, coming up, we talk to Ashley 863 00:30:44,077 --> 00:30:45,746 about how she managed the stress 864 00:30:45,812 --> 00:30:47,714 of starting a new career and dealing 865 00:30:47,781 --> 00:30:49,082 with Bar's legal troubles. 866 00:30:49,149 --> 00:30:51,118 Plus, we'll see if we can start a new chapter 867 00:30:51,185 --> 00:30:53,053 with all of the moms and have them 868 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,456 take the stage together. - ♪♪ Dun, dun, dun ♪♪ 869 00:30:56,523 --> 00:30:59,493 - We shall see. 870 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,028 - How is your guys' relationship now? 871 00:31:01,094 --> 00:31:02,362 You guys cool? 872 00:31:02,429 --> 00:31:04,398 - I'ma be a butt with you. - Don't you do it. 873 00:31:11,138 --> 00:31:14,074 [upbeat music] 874 00:31:14,141 --> 00:31:16,777 - Well, I'm walking on set because these shoes 875 00:31:16,844 --> 00:31:19,313 are made for walking. 876 00:31:19,379 --> 00:31:20,948 ♪♪ ♪♪ 877 00:31:21,014 --> 00:31:22,416 - Welcome back to the reunion. 878 00:31:22,482 --> 00:31:24,384 Our moms have been joining us throughout the night, 879 00:31:24,451 --> 00:31:25,719 and with us now is Ashley. 880 00:31:25,786 --> 00:31:27,054 Welcome, Ashley. How are you? 881 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,689 - I'm good. How are you, Dr. Drew? 882 00:31:28,755 --> 00:31:29,723 - Excellent. We are good. 883 00:31:29,790 --> 00:31:31,725 How's Holly? - She's amazing. 884 00:31:31,792 --> 00:31:33,160 - Amazing, right? 885 00:31:33,227 --> 00:31:34,628 - First, I want to say I'm sorry about 886 00:31:34,695 --> 00:31:36,797 your family's loss, you know? - Thank you. 887 00:31:36,864 --> 00:31:39,032 - And how is everybody feeling right now? 888 00:31:39,099 --> 00:31:41,568 What are you doing to cope with this? 889 00:31:41,635 --> 00:31:43,370 - I'm not really good with grief. 890 00:31:43,437 --> 00:31:45,072 And I feel like I-- 891 00:31:45,138 --> 00:31:47,040 I throw myself into school. 892 00:31:47,107 --> 00:31:49,576 Like, that's my biggest distraction. 893 00:31:49,643 --> 00:31:51,078 - And how has that been? 894 00:31:51,144 --> 00:31:53,413 - Probably the most challenging thing I've ever done. 895 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,283 I'm thinking about in dermatology NP 896 00:31:56,350 --> 00:31:57,885 with a specialization in colored skin 897 00:31:57,951 --> 00:32:00,220 because, you know, we have all types of differences. 898 00:32:00,287 --> 00:32:02,256 - Great. Good for you. 899 00:32:02,322 --> 00:32:04,791 So before we get into all you went through this season, 900 00:32:04,858 --> 00:32:07,060 we're going to bring out your sister and your husband. 901 00:32:07,127 --> 00:32:09,496 Please welcome Chris and Bar. 902 00:32:09,563 --> 00:32:11,932 - Hello. - Hello, hello. 903 00:32:11,999 --> 00:32:15,068 - Hi. How are you? 904 00:32:15,135 --> 00:32:17,337 - So Chris, the first time we're meeting. 905 00:32:17,404 --> 00:32:18,539 Nice to meet you here. - Yeah, nice to meet you. 906 00:32:18,605 --> 00:32:19,840 - Are you sure? 907 00:32:19,907 --> 00:32:20,974 - For sure, it's definitely their first time. 908 00:32:21,041 --> 00:32:22,342 - Yeah. 909 00:32:22,409 --> 00:32:23,544 - It just--it feels right, though, right? 910 00:32:23,610 --> 00:32:24,878 - It does. I think that's what it is. 911 00:32:24,945 --> 00:32:26,480 It just feels right. 912 00:32:26,547 --> 00:32:29,850 Now, few people had as a challenging year as Ashley. 913 00:32:29,917 --> 00:32:31,885 In addition to moving and starting school, 914 00:32:31,952 --> 00:32:34,288 she supported Bar during his legal troubles. 915 00:32:34,354 --> 00:32:36,356 Let's take a look back. 916 00:32:36,423 --> 00:32:38,792 - Hey. - What's up, sis? 917 00:32:38,859 --> 00:32:40,561 - Bar just started his community service 918 00:32:40,627 --> 00:32:42,196 for this court [bleep]. 919 00:32:42,262 --> 00:32:46,533 He took this deal in exchange for, like, six years. 920 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,569 - Is that one of them deals that if he does anything, 921 00:32:48,635 --> 00:32:51,338 he does all the time? - Yep. 922 00:32:51,405 --> 00:32:53,273 I think it just makes me nervous because 923 00:32:53,340 --> 00:32:55,342 he's already behind on his hours. 924 00:32:55,409 --> 00:32:56,810 - I didn't handle my business 925 00:32:56,877 --> 00:32:58,312 the way I was supposed to all the way. 926 00:32:58,378 --> 00:33:00,247 - And I just feel like that's disappointing considering 927 00:33:00,314 --> 00:33:04,418 that you know the stakes, in that they're not just-- 928 00:33:04,484 --> 00:33:06,453 the stakes are not just high for you. 929 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,622 To be honest, I'm feeling like, [bleep] this wedding. 930 00:33:08,689 --> 00:33:11,959 Because you know what? I'm tired. 931 00:33:12,025 --> 00:33:13,927 And I'm not tired of playing his woman. 932 00:33:13,994 --> 00:33:16,630 I'm tired of playing his mama. 933 00:33:16,697 --> 00:33:18,098 - I can totally understand that, 934 00:33:18,165 --> 00:33:20,567 and I think a lot of women across the world 935 00:33:20,634 --> 00:33:23,337 can understand that we tend to play mama 936 00:33:23,403 --> 00:33:25,072 in these men's lives. 937 00:33:25,138 --> 00:33:27,441 - So I'm done. 938 00:33:27,508 --> 00:33:29,409 As far as the courts, this [bleep] is over with. 939 00:33:29,476 --> 00:33:31,278 I got sentenced to 24 months of probation. 940 00:33:31,345 --> 00:33:33,547 - I guess you're gonna ask him if he can come home. 941 00:33:33,614 --> 00:33:36,183 - So my probation is active right now. 942 00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:37,885 I can't leave without permission 943 00:33:37,951 --> 00:33:40,587 for more than two days. So... 944 00:33:40,654 --> 00:33:42,389 - That's [bleep] up. 945 00:33:42,456 --> 00:33:44,491 - I'm sorry that this is happening. 946 00:33:44,558 --> 00:33:46,193 - Hi, daddy. 947 00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:48,362 - How was your day? - Good. 948 00:33:48,428 --> 00:33:49,429 Daddy, watch this. 949 00:33:49,496 --> 00:33:51,532 ♪♪ ♪♪ 950 00:33:51,598 --> 00:33:53,734 And move your tattoos too. 951 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,803 ♪♪ ♪♪ 952 00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:58,172 I miss you. 953 00:33:58,238 --> 00:33:59,840 - I miss you, too, and I love you, too. 954 00:33:59,907 --> 00:34:02,042 - Love you. 955 00:34:02,109 --> 00:34:05,179 - ♪♪ Watch this, watch this ♪♪ 956 00:34:05,245 --> 00:34:12,286 ♪♪ ♪♪ 957 00:34:18,725 --> 00:34:21,795 - It hurts to see you away from Holly. 958 00:34:21,862 --> 00:34:23,597 I'm not saying that to shame you. 959 00:34:23,664 --> 00:34:26,433 - No, no, I get it. 960 00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:28,135 I know what it's like for my dad to not be there, 961 00:34:28,202 --> 00:34:30,237 you know? So for me to-- 962 00:34:30,304 --> 00:34:35,375 to start having my decisions bring me 963 00:34:35,442 --> 00:34:38,812 to the point where I might be replicating 964 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:40,948 the type of behavior that I was raised against, 965 00:34:41,014 --> 00:34:42,850 it made me feel like trash. 966 00:34:42,916 --> 00:34:44,351 - How is your guys' relationship now? 967 00:34:44,418 --> 00:34:45,452 You guys cool? 968 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:47,721 - Yeah. - Yeah? 969 00:34:47,788 --> 00:34:50,157 - How did that time impact your guys' relationship, 970 00:34:50,224 --> 00:34:51,425 Ashley? - It was hard. 971 00:34:51,491 --> 00:34:52,759 - Yeah. 972 00:34:52,826 --> 00:34:54,228 - Is that when you guys were fighting so bad 973 00:34:54,294 --> 00:34:57,497 that led to that text? - What was it that upset you? 974 00:34:57,564 --> 00:34:59,533 - Probably because I blocked him and was out 975 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,968 and not answering his calls, 976 00:35:01,034 --> 00:35:02,336 and I was out with my home girls. 977 00:35:02,402 --> 00:35:03,604 - Let me ask you. Do you like her friends? 978 00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:04,838 Are her friends OK? 979 00:35:04,905 --> 00:35:06,006 - I'ma be a butt with you. 980 00:35:06,073 --> 00:35:07,207 - Don't you do it. 981 00:35:07,274 --> 00:35:08,809 - I don't like a few of her friends. 982 00:35:08,876 --> 00:35:11,411 - So the friends that you're not fans of, 983 00:35:11,478 --> 00:35:12,513 is that who she was hanging out with? 984 00:35:12,579 --> 00:35:13,547 Is that-- - They were there. 985 00:35:13,614 --> 00:35:14,748 - Yeah. - They were there. 986 00:35:14,815 --> 00:35:16,083 - Who? The friends I wasn't fam with? 987 00:35:16,149 --> 00:35:17,918 - Some of them were there, yeah. 988 00:35:17,985 --> 00:35:19,553 - You, at one point, were planning 989 00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:21,088 another wedding, right? 990 00:35:21,154 --> 00:35:23,023 And then you sort of lost steam with that. 991 00:35:23,090 --> 00:35:24,892 Is that because of all this? 992 00:35:24,958 --> 00:35:28,128 - Well, I think the first thing people have to understand 993 00:35:28,195 --> 00:35:29,930 is that I was getting ready to cancel 994 00:35:29,997 --> 00:35:31,365 because my brother passed away before. 995 00:35:31,431 --> 00:35:32,533 - It was during that time. 996 00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:34,401 - And everyone around me 997 00:35:34,468 --> 00:35:36,036 kind of thought it would be a morale booster 998 00:35:36,103 --> 00:35:38,472 for me and my family, 999 00:35:38,539 --> 00:35:42,376 but that was close to being canceled. 1000 00:35:42,442 --> 00:35:44,945 - Speaking of weddings, can I switch topics 1001 00:35:45,012 --> 00:35:46,246 and talk about Cheyenne for a minute? 1002 00:35:46,313 --> 00:35:48,549 - No. - I understand. 1003 00:35:48,615 --> 00:35:50,851 So you had a phone call about her wedding, 1004 00:35:50,918 --> 00:35:52,319 but it ended kind of quickly, I guess. 1005 00:35:52,386 --> 00:35:56,123 - Yeah, I chose to not engage with Cheyenne 1006 00:35:56,190 --> 00:35:58,458 for a multitude of reasons. 1007 00:35:58,525 --> 00:36:00,294 Number one, my brother died. 1008 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,396 If that's not a time to reach out and say, "Hey, 1009 00:36:02,462 --> 00:36:04,598 "listen, I know that we don't-- 1010 00:36:04,665 --> 00:36:08,268 but this is a sisterhood," I don't know any other time. 1011 00:36:08,335 --> 00:36:11,071 And so anything after that 1012 00:36:11,138 --> 00:36:13,173 just kind of feels, like, disingenuine, 1013 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:16,043 and I just-- I'm past that. 1014 00:36:16,109 --> 00:36:17,377 I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. 1015 00:36:17,444 --> 00:36:18,912 I understand that what happened 1016 00:36:18,979 --> 00:36:23,650 between me and Briana caused a divide in the cast, right? 1017 00:36:23,717 --> 00:36:25,185 Spitting on someone-- it's not-- 1018 00:36:25,252 --> 00:36:26,520 you know, people hate that. Whatever. 1019 00:36:26,587 --> 00:36:28,055 I understand that. 1020 00:36:28,121 --> 00:36:32,259 It's about how people handle their relationships with me. 1021 00:36:32,326 --> 00:36:35,729 When that situation was between Briana and I, 1022 00:36:35,796 --> 00:36:37,998 especially because if she would have called me, 1023 00:36:38,065 --> 00:36:39,266 I would have said, "You know what? 1024 00:36:39,333 --> 00:36:40,634 "Because of what's going on, 1025 00:36:40,701 --> 00:36:42,102 I'm not gonna come to your wedding." 1026 00:36:42,169 --> 00:36:44,037 I had already decided not to go 1027 00:36:44,104 --> 00:36:47,374 because I didn't want to be in a situation at her wedding 1028 00:36:47,441 --> 00:36:49,610 where I felt uncomfortable. 1029 00:36:49,676 --> 00:36:52,145 - How do we get it all kind of cooled down? 1030 00:36:52,212 --> 00:36:54,681 - I think that the best that we can do 1031 00:36:54,748 --> 00:36:56,083 is kind of just say, "You know what? 1032 00:36:56,149 --> 00:36:57,251 "Let's call a spade a spade. 1033 00:36:57,317 --> 00:36:58,752 "We've all said mean things. 1034 00:36:58,819 --> 00:37:01,522 "However, let's turn the page, and let's sit up here 1035 00:37:01,588 --> 00:37:02,990 and do our job." 1036 00:37:03,056 --> 00:37:06,560 Don't ask me about being any more [bleep] understanding 1037 00:37:06,627 --> 00:37:09,196 or accommodating when these bitches 1038 00:37:09,263 --> 00:37:10,898 don't even want to sit on a couch with me. 1039 00:37:10,964 --> 00:37:13,133 - I'll work on her a little bit. 1040 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,102 Once she sits and really digests 1041 00:37:15,169 --> 00:37:16,737 what is being said right now, 1042 00:37:16,803 --> 00:37:19,673 I think she will come to a conclusion to say, 1043 00:37:19,740 --> 00:37:21,942 the things that I did say was not appropriate. 1044 00:37:22,009 --> 00:37:23,710 - I went too far, and I hit below the belt 1045 00:37:23,777 --> 00:37:26,313 because I felt like I had been hit below the belt. 1046 00:37:26,380 --> 00:37:28,815 I can say that. - But I think this is a step. 1047 00:37:28,882 --> 00:37:31,151 - It's movement. - Yes. 1048 00:37:31,218 --> 00:37:33,353 It's movement. We got motion. 1049 00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:35,088 - We're going to see if we can get more movement. 1050 00:37:35,155 --> 00:37:36,290 I have faith. 1051 00:37:36,356 --> 00:37:37,691 OK, now, Ashley is going to stick around 1052 00:37:37,758 --> 00:37:40,027 because when we return, we're hoping we can get 1053 00:37:40,093 --> 00:37:42,396 all of our moms to join us on the reunion stage 1054 00:37:42,462 --> 00:37:45,499 in an effort to move forward together into a new chapter 1055 00:37:45,566 --> 00:37:47,768 of "Teen Mom." Stick around. 1056 00:37:47,835 --> 00:37:51,572 [applause] 1057 00:37:51,638 --> 00:37:54,708 - I was just a hot mess. - Everybody knows this, 1058 00:37:54,775 --> 00:37:56,276 but I need to say it again to you 1059 00:37:56,343 --> 00:37:57,711 after the [bleep] that happened. 1060 00:37:57,778 --> 00:38:00,581 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1061 00:38:06,553 --> 00:38:09,122 [upbeat music] 1062 00:38:09,189 --> 00:38:12,059 [tense music] 1063 00:38:12,125 --> 00:38:13,393 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1064 00:38:13,460 --> 00:38:15,462 - They're either gonna be hostile or defensive, 1065 00:38:15,529 --> 00:38:16,830 or they're gonna be in a redemption stage. 1066 00:38:16,897 --> 00:38:18,432 - I know it's gonna run smooth. 1067 00:38:18,498 --> 00:38:20,501 If it doesn't, oh, [bleep], 1068 00:38:20,567 --> 00:38:22,035 but we're gonna be OK. 1069 00:38:22,102 --> 00:38:23,637 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1070 00:38:23,704 --> 00:38:25,239 - Do you think that there is conflict resolution 1071 00:38:25,305 --> 00:38:26,807 possible for-- 1072 00:38:26,874 --> 00:38:28,709 - I think there's definitely conflict resolution possible. 1073 00:38:28,775 --> 00:38:30,010 - Yeah, I do too. 1074 00:38:30,077 --> 00:38:31,678 - I am willing to have a conversation. 1075 00:38:31,745 --> 00:38:33,013 - Everybody needs-- 1076 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,882 - But I have to feel like-- can I say this? 1077 00:38:34,948 --> 00:38:37,584 I have to feel like it comes from a place of being genuine, 1078 00:38:37,651 --> 00:38:40,287 because I'm not a [bleep]. 1079 00:38:40,354 --> 00:38:42,556 - Oh, boy, here we go. 1080 00:38:43,657 --> 00:38:45,926 - Here we go, everybody. 1081 00:38:45,993 --> 00:38:47,761 - Three, two-- 1082 00:38:47,828 --> 00:38:49,596 [applause] 1083 00:38:49,663 --> 00:38:50,898 - Welcome back to "Teen Mom: 1084 00:38:50,964 --> 00:38:52,399 The Next Chapter Reunion." 1085 00:38:52,466 --> 00:38:54,201 And we're joined by all of our moms. 1086 00:38:54,268 --> 00:38:57,504 Please welcome Briana, Catelynn, 1087 00:38:57,571 --> 00:38:59,640 Ashley, Cheyenne, 1088 00:38:59,706 --> 00:39:03,810 Amber, Jade, Maci, and Leah. 1089 00:39:03,877 --> 00:39:06,079 - It is so great to see you guys all out here. 1090 00:39:06,146 --> 00:39:08,015 And I know there's been some negative feelings and stuff, 1091 00:39:08,081 --> 00:39:10,317 and I appreciate you guys joining everyone on the set. 1092 00:39:10,384 --> 00:39:12,920 I've known some of you since you were 16, 1093 00:39:12,986 --> 00:39:16,290 and some of you have known each other since you were 16. 1094 00:39:16,356 --> 00:39:17,724 Catelynn, what kind of bond 1095 00:39:17,791 --> 00:39:19,626 have you formed with the other moms here 1096 00:39:19,693 --> 00:39:20,894 that you've known since you were a kid? 1097 00:39:20,961 --> 00:39:23,463 - I mean, like, Maci and Am, like, we've been 1098 00:39:23,530 --> 00:39:28,068 ride or die since day one, OK? You know what I mean? 1099 00:39:28,135 --> 00:39:31,371 There's something that us three can connect on 1100 00:39:31,438 --> 00:39:32,706 that I can't even connect on 1101 00:39:32,773 --> 00:39:34,474 with some of my closest friends. 1102 00:39:34,541 --> 00:39:36,043 It's definitely something special. 1103 00:39:36,109 --> 00:39:37,878 - Amber, you were saying how much 1104 00:39:37,945 --> 00:39:39,313 Jade's story resonated for you, 1105 00:39:39,379 --> 00:39:40,380 and you actually reached out to her. 1106 00:39:40,447 --> 00:39:41,682 - Yes. 1107 00:39:41,748 --> 00:39:44,618 Listen, for me, I see so much more honesty 1108 00:39:44,685 --> 00:39:46,920 as she's growing throughout the shows. 1109 00:39:46,987 --> 00:39:48,222 I don't know. 1110 00:39:48,288 --> 00:39:49,590 I've just had, like, an extra, like, something 1111 00:39:49,656 --> 00:39:51,091 in my heart with her. 1112 00:39:51,158 --> 00:39:52,960 It's not just because she lives in Indy with me, but-- 1113 00:39:53,026 --> 00:39:54,595 - I think that's a little bit of it. 1114 00:39:54,661 --> 00:39:57,464 - I mean--I mean-- I mean, yeah. Yeah. 1115 00:39:57,531 --> 00:39:59,533 - Do any of you watch other moms' story lines? 1116 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,602 - Yeah. Every episode. 1117 00:40:01,668 --> 00:40:04,471 - What did you see? - I was just a hot mess. 1118 00:40:04,538 --> 00:40:06,440 It's heavy [bleep]. 1119 00:40:06,507 --> 00:40:08,108 Ashley, losing her brother. 1120 00:40:08,175 --> 00:40:09,810 I'm so sorry. 1121 00:40:09,877 --> 00:40:12,246 - When the situation happened with Ashley, 1122 00:40:12,312 --> 00:40:15,048 and I saw that her brother had passed away, 1123 00:40:15,115 --> 00:40:16,817 I wanted to reach out to her because 1124 00:40:16,884 --> 00:40:18,252 I had a sibling pass away, 1125 00:40:18,318 --> 00:40:19,720 and it's so hard, 1126 00:40:19,786 --> 00:40:22,155 but, you know, I was being respectful. 1127 00:40:22,222 --> 00:40:23,724 I don't know your feelings about me, 1128 00:40:23,790 --> 00:40:25,792 and, in fact, I'm good with you. 1129 00:40:25,859 --> 00:40:27,694 If you ever get to a certain point, 1130 00:40:27,761 --> 00:40:31,431 you can reach out to me, like, honestly. 1131 00:40:31,498 --> 00:40:33,967 Everybody knows this, but I need to say it again 1132 00:40:34,034 --> 00:40:35,669 to you after the [bleep] that happened. 1133 00:40:35,736 --> 00:40:37,037 - I appreciate you saying that. 1134 00:40:37,104 --> 00:40:39,606 I think after, you know, what we went through, 1135 00:40:39,673 --> 00:40:42,209 maybe it was a little muddy, 1136 00:40:42,276 --> 00:40:44,411 and after everything that, you know, took place, 1137 00:40:44,478 --> 00:40:47,347 but I'm sorry that you've ever felt the way that I feel. 1138 00:40:47,414 --> 00:40:48,649 It's very hard. 1139 00:40:48,715 --> 00:40:50,717 - Well, I appreciate you all being here. 1140 00:40:50,784 --> 00:40:52,786 I appreciate you all doing your best 1141 00:40:52,853 --> 00:40:56,957 to put some of the conflicts behind you and move forward. 1142 00:40:57,024 --> 00:40:58,659 Is there anything else needs to be said, do you feel? 1143 00:40:58,725 --> 00:41:00,093 Anybody? 1144 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,863 - I know that if me and Ashley can go out the way 1145 00:41:02,930 --> 00:41:06,600 we did, and I can today be sitting here 1146 00:41:06,667 --> 00:41:08,702 on the stage where she can be sitting with me, like, 1147 00:41:08,769 --> 00:41:10,337 [bleep] just needs to be pushed over 1148 00:41:10,404 --> 00:41:12,272 if anything happens in the future, honestly. 1149 00:41:12,339 --> 00:41:14,775 Because you can get past it, at least. 1150 00:41:14,842 --> 00:41:18,145 - I feel like things are just, like, blown out of proportion 1151 00:41:18,212 --> 00:41:19,546 or dragged on. 1152 00:41:19,613 --> 00:41:22,516 - Cheyenne, where are you at? - I'm right here. 1153 00:41:22,583 --> 00:41:24,284 - Is that a conversation you still want to try to have? 1154 00:41:24,351 --> 00:41:27,421 - I think, at this point now, for a conversation to be held, 1155 00:41:27,487 --> 00:41:31,592 it would need to be because she actually wants to have one. 1156 00:41:31,658 --> 00:41:33,026 - So we have an opportunity. 1157 00:41:33,093 --> 00:41:34,595 We can send everybody out and have that conversation 1158 00:41:34,661 --> 00:41:35,829 now if you want. 1159 00:41:35,896 --> 00:41:37,698 - I'm getting your ass a messy award. 1160 00:41:37,764 --> 00:41:39,867 - Oh. - Do you want to do that? 1161 00:41:39,933 --> 00:41:41,802 - Damn, Drew. Damn, Drew. 1162 00:41:41,869 --> 00:41:43,570 [dramatic music] 1163 00:41:43,637 --> 00:41:47,341 - So nothing happened after that, romantic-wise? 1164 00:41:47,407 --> 00:41:49,142 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1165 00:41:49,209 --> 00:41:51,144 - It's the first time me even saying it on camera. 1166 00:41:51,211 --> 00:41:52,446 - Oh, is that right? 1167 00:41:52,513 --> 00:41:54,114 - I definitely do want to have a talk with Maci 1168 00:41:54,181 --> 00:41:57,150 because there's a lot of things that I've done 1169 00:41:57,217 --> 00:42:00,354 that just were really [bleep]. 1170 00:42:00,420 --> 00:42:04,391 - [bleep] so hard to be here for her. 1171 00:42:04,458 --> 00:42:05,759 - It was all over the internet. 1172 00:42:05,826 --> 00:42:07,895 I had no idea about it until people had told me. 1173 00:42:07,961 --> 00:42:10,097 - Yeah. - What assholes. 1174 00:42:10,163 --> 00:42:12,065 - What the [bleep] is going on here? 1175 00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:17,137 - Next time on part two of "The Reunion." 1176 00:42:17,204 --> 00:42:18,305 - We can send everybody out and have 1177 00:42:18,372 --> 00:42:19,940 that conversation now if you want. 1178 00:42:20,007 --> 00:42:21,842 - That's he first time me even saying it on camera. 1179 00:42:21,909 --> 00:42:23,677 - I definitely do want to have a talk with Maci 1180 00:42:23,744 --> 00:42:26,180 because there's a lot of things that I've done 1181 00:42:26,246 --> 00:42:28,582 that just were really [bleep]. 1182 00:42:28,649 --> 00:42:30,083 - Bring me up to date with this gentleman 1183 00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:31,552 sitting next to you. Friends? 1184 00:42:31,618 --> 00:42:32,886 - Uh... 1185 00:42:32,953 --> 00:42:34,421 - What the [bleep] is going on here?