- ♪♪ MTV ♪♪
- Did I see that right?
Ah!
Are you gonna be OK?
- I am very nervous about your diabetes.
- Look, it's twins! It's twins.
[all screaming]
- Well, if they they don't say delivered,
that means I'm blocked. - What?
- If it's coming out of Brandon and Teresa, fear and stuff,
whether it be insecurity, or she's getting older,
and they're not wanting contact.
- Or their opinion is different than yours,
and they've asked for space, and they've asked for things
to chill, and it hasn't happened,
then is it the only alternative that they can see?
- I would talk to Dr. Drew just to pick his brain about,
like, how do you communicate with somebody
when they block you and completely cut you off?
- I'm just wondering if you would like me
to reach out to Brandon and Teresa.
- I'm fine with it.
- We're fine with anyone reaching out to them.
- I'll be interested to see if Dr. Drew gets anywhere.
Dr. Drew actually-- he just texted me.
"Hey, Cate, do you and Tyler have time to talk?"
[bright music]
- Look at that little car. It's purple.
- I just want a pink one. - "I just want a pink one."
You passed the driver's license knowledge test!
- OK, stop. - High five.
Where'd you get that ring?
- My little boyfriend got it.
- Aleeah, your boyfriend is here.
- Hi. You look very beautiful.
- Thank you.
- Is it weird that I'm the one he fears over the dad?
Is that weird?
- So the boyfriend can't come to your house and hang out?
- Not yet.
- Oh, Leah, it's triggering something in you, girl.
- It [bleep] sucks.
My daughter is turning 16, and she don't want to see me.
I see how my relationship with my mom
was completely tumultuous,
and, today, I'm with my mom.
I love my mom so much.
- We call it generational trauma.
- Leah, she's not gonna understand,
but I'm not ever gonna stop being here for her.
- I just think I have a lot of issues 'cause of Amber.
- Do you want to talk to somebody
and get into going to therapy? - Yeah.
I'm not really sure when I realized
when Amber, like, wasn't there.
I don't want her around, but I do have
abandonment issues from it.
- This dude carries guns! Please come help my daughter.
- Bar is currently in jail.
I ended up being late to court for my divorce case.
I have to refile the case for a date to open up.
[phone ringing] - Hello?
- Hi. This is the DA office.
I'm calling to speak with Ashley Jones.
- Speaking.
- I have an update about Bariki Smith's case status.
- So Bar took a plea deal?
Headed to meet with this domestic violence advocate.
- You deserve to live in a safe,
violence-free environment.
- Does he understand that things have changed?
Like, sir, this is no longer romantic.
It is platonic.
- And stay tuned...
- Oh, my God.
- Because someone...
- The hell? - Whoa, this is crazy.
- Is getting ready to start a new chapter.
- My boobs hurt. Oh, no, am I pregnant?
- I'm scared about two with you being an identical twin.
♪♪ ♪♪
[upbeat rock music]
♪♪ ♪♪
- ♪♪ All along I ♪♪
♪♪ All along I've been ♪♪
♪♪ Sitting on a gold mine ♪♪
- The babies have hiccups every morning,
kicks every evening.
- Did you feel a kick yet?
- He hasn't felt a kick.
They're sitting like this.
- Khes, I felt the babies kick.
- Jaxie, what do you want? - A sister.
- So one kicks right here in my ribs,
and then one kicks down here.
- Yeah, I'm thick, and that's how my man likes me.
- Oh, you know, honey.
- That's why he put two in me.
- [laughs]
- ♪♪ I'm sitting on a gold mine ♪♪
- You know we only have three months left, right?
- I know. - It went by so fast.
I have an ultrasound coming up,
and they will be able to tell the genders.
So do we want them to tell us
or plan a big gender reveal party?
What do you want? And we'll make it happen.
- I want a party.
- So do you want me to tell her,
hey, can you put this in an envelope for us?
- Yes. - OK.
I guess let's text all of our friends.
We'll tell Megan because you know
she's gonna be on top of it.
- Have you ever seen, like, a gender reveal
with a soccer ball before? - When you kick it--
- You close it. Powder goes up in the air.
- I have two balls to throw to you.
- Yes?
- And hopefully there's no balls in me.
- [laughs]
- What do you want to see, blue?
- Oh, 100%.
- After helping me raise Gannon,
you want a boy? - I do.
- Wow, OK.
- I mean, I would take a blue and a pink.
- Oh, gender reveal.
- ♪♪ 'Cause all these feelings ♪♪
♪♪ Are taking over me ♪♪
♪♪ ♪♪
- ♪♪ I do my own thing ♪♪
♪♪ ♪♪
♪♪ I do my own thing ♪♪
- What you doing?
- Picking out my classes for the next school year.
- Do you have any plans this weekend?
- No, it's kind of a boring weekend.
I was wondering if maybe Sam could come over for dinner?
- Well, I'm glad that, you know,
you're enjoying your time with your boyfriend,
but the rule is that, until you're 16,
I would prefer dates not to come over to the house.
- He's just coming over for dinner.
It's not like he's gonna be in my room.
And, like, what's the difference
between him coming over and any friend coming over?
- I think it's just a boundary
that I have in place to protect you.
And I know... - But, like, why?
- That it's difficult for a teenage brain to understand.
- A teen--
- Because I think that you--
no, I do trust you.
But I think, one, I've done stuff
right underneath my parents' nose,
literally, and they had no idea.
- But I'm not you.
- I'm not saying that you're me,
but I'm saying that it is very typical for that
to happen with teenagers.
- Sam's allowed to come over to my dad's house.
[soft dramatic music]
- The boyfriend thing, like, I never in a million years
thought I'd be OK with a boyfriend, and then--
- Oh, I about have a panic attack every time
you tell me something. - Right.
So my approach with Aleeah's boyfriend,
like, is open communication about it.
- I don't feel comfortable with you chilling at the house
with your boyfriend until you're at least 16.
♪♪ ♪♪
- You know, being strict is not a flex.
♪♪ ♪♪
- ♪♪ This is where our dreams begin ♪♪
♪♪ Oh ♪♪
- So I'm gonna see how this new medicine works,
make sure it's good, because I don't want to get my hopes up,
but it's worked better than, so far,
anything else for anxiety.
- I'm at the point where, like, I like my time alone.
I don't really need a relationship right now.
- Yeah, it just sounds like right now you just really
need to work on yourself. - Yeah.
- And that's really all you can do.
- Yeah.
- She can come over.
- She's driving now. - Exactly.
That's what I meant. - Gosh.
- She can come over. - Making me old.
[upbeat music]
- ♪♪ This is where our dreams begin ♪♪
♪♪ Ooh, ooh ♪♪
♪♪ ♪♪
- We make brownies, but they're never as good as yours.
- Bee-ah.
- We don't have enough vegetable oil.
- Olive oil.
- Sometimes I want to do something by myself
and make my own mistakes.
- All right, so we're gonna get these in the oven,
then what do you want to do?
- Um, so I have a text ready that I want to send to Amber
and get it over with.
Obviously, the past few years,
I've been feeling a certain way.
But, like, Amber, when I do see her, like,
she acts like everything's perfectly fine,
and it's like, I haven't seen you in months.
Where are you talking like this?
- Yeah.
Have you ever just told her how you felt?
- No, not really. I'm scared to.
- OK.
- She, like, tells people that, like,
we have a good relationship,
and I think she thinks that it's my dad's fault.
So I kind of want to clear that up
because it's not fair for me to blame my dad
for something that I want.
But the last straw was when she was doing
her lives online,
to say what she said.
She was even talking about me some.
- Who's traumatized?
She's traumatized about what?
She's not traumatized because of me.
I didn't do anything to her like that.
The yelling, yeah, that happened
three years, less than three years.
It's not trauma.
- I personally can't handle it.
Mommy, I want you to come up there with me.
[soft dramatic music]
♪♪ ♪♪
I know I want to do it.
- Are you sure? - Yeah, well--
- I can't have my hand in this, like, other than
being supportive for you.
It has to come from you and something you want.
So I'm gonna make sure, you know, 'cause it's hard
to go back from this. - It'll be fine.
- You just need to make sure it's something you want to do,
and it sounds like it is. - It is.
- OK. - Ta-da.
[soft acoustic music]
Come on.
♪♪ ♪♪
- It's--and I love you, and I encourage you.
I love you.
You stay strong and do whatever you got to do.
♪♪ ♪♪
- ♪♪ Wherever the wind blows ♪♪
♪♪ Wherever the wind blows ♪♪
- I've been wanting to, like, move forward
and not have abandonment issues.
- So what does the text say?
- "This isn't meant to hurt you,
"but I want to let you know that, all these years,
"it's been my decision to not have a relationship with you,
"and nobody has influenced my decision.
"I feel like recent online activities
"have put me in a place where I need to communicate
this to put a boundary between us for myself."
I just wanted to keep it short and not, like, go off
or anything because I feel like that's just kind of immature.
- I'm sure she's probably gonna feel a certain
kind of way being rejected.
Maybe this will give you the closure that you need
and be able to end that chapter,
and the next one can be the Leah chapter.
- Oh, I'm scared.
[soft dramatic music]
♪♪ ♪♪
[phone whooshes]
[exhales deeply]
♪♪ ♪♪
- ♪♪ Are you ready? Let's go ♪♪
[upbeat music]
♪♪ Are you ready? Let's go ♪♪
♪♪ ♪♪
♪♪ Let's roll, let's roll ♪♪
[line trilling]
- Hello. - What's popping?
- Girl, I've been dealing with the communication
between Bar and Holly.
He's been out for about, what, I want to say two weeks.
And every single time I would answer my phone,
it was like, "You're keeping me from my daughter."
Like, he told Holly, I want you to know,
if you don't talk to me, it's not because of me.
Your mom doesn't let me talk to you.
So of course I had to end that phone call
because that's not an appropriate conversation
to be having with her.
- Yeah, that's her dad,
but he's already done [bleep] off the Richter.
I can't vouch for him like that anymore.
- Anyways, yeah, so I got a call from
the domestic violence advocate, and she basically wants
to meet with me 'cause, you know,
I was able to get the divorce back on calendar.
- How soon is that? - Tomorrow.
- ♪♪ Echoes of past ♪♪
♪♪ Time to repeat ♪♪
♪♪ Future at last ♪♪
♪♪ Under our feet ♪♪
♪♪ We made a pact ♪♪
♪♪ We'd always believed ♪♪
- Hi, Ashley. - Hi.
- How are you? - I'm good.
How are you? - Good to see you.
Thank you for being here. - Good to see you.
Thank you for having me.
- How's Holly doing? - We're going on vacation.
She's excited.
She's got a lot to look forward to.
- Where are you guys going?
- We're going on a cruise... - Oh, nice.
- To a bunch of places. Yeah.
- Oh, good.
So I know that Bariki has been released.
As far as the divorce with child custody court case,
do you know if Bariki is going to come?
- I don't know.
- Well, are you interested in court accompaniment?
- Yes. - OK, perfect.
- Yes, please.
- So tomorrow at 8:30, again, I will be there.
This is a very, very critical stage
in your family court process,
and we want to make sure that we show up, we're on time,
and we have all of our documents.
- We're ready. Yeah.
- And then what type of custody were you
asking for in the divorce application?
- Full custody, like sole custody,
because sometimes we don't see eye to eye.
He's in and out of jail.
You know, the paperwork is protection.
- Absolutely.
Those are all valid things to say to the judge,
and I'm gonna be there with you.
I cannot address the court.
I cannot talk to the judge about it,
but I can stand right next to you,
provide you that emotional support.
OK? - Mm-hmm, OK.
- Yeah.
- Big day. - Are you nervous?
- Of course.
We both might not get what we want.
I might not get what I want.
He might not get what-- you know?
So it's just up to the judge.
- ♪♪ We can pick up where we left off ♪♪
♪♪ There's a place by me where we can talk ♪♪
♪♪ Can I get one more shot? ♪♪
- Nova, do you know how old Carly is gonna be this year?
- Uh, 16? - You're right.
- Really? - Mm-hmm.
Right here, May 18.
- She was supposed to be on 22nd.
- Yeah. - Really?
- Mm-hmm.
Then we changed it, got induced.
- On the 18th.
- Why did you have to get induced?
- Um, 'cause my doctor thought it would be smart
to do that so that way Brandon and Teresa
could be here for her to be born,
and we were all, like, ready for her to be here.
It does not feel like it's been 16 years since
Ty and I were giving Carly to Brandon and Teresa.
- If I were you, I would have said,
if you really want this baby,
you're gonna wait until it comes out of me.
- Yeah, well, I mean, that's fair.
- [laughs]
- ♪♪ Baby, when you look back, do you smile? ♪♪
- I would do anything to be able to talk to Carly,
so me going into this video session with Dr. Drew,
I hope that communication can be restored,
and I can tell her, "Hey, love you.
Thinking about you." So I don't know.
We'll see. - Oh.
- Hey, Dr. Drew.
- Hello, Dr. Drew.
- You guys just make me smile.
- Oh, yeah? [laughs]
- You know, this whole experience
is rather emotional for me, as I'm sure it is for you.
Since our last conversation, right,
I did talk to Brandon and Teresa.
I can tell you what was expressed to me about Carly
was that Brandon was like,
"This kid is thriving and doing--
"she has friends, and she's athletic,
"and she's musical,
and she's doing all these wonderful things."
Yeah, and so--
- I mean, just a part of me-- my mind,
when you said those things, it goes,
"Wow, well, thanks for keeping that beautiful girl for me."
- I don't think that's the intent.
I don't think that's going to be--
- That's how it feels.
- I understand that's how it feels.
I understand.
I know you.
I know how tough this is.
I-I get it.
- We can't ever say we're not grateful for them,
you know, raising her. - Right.
You can have both feelings. - Oh, yeah.
And I think both things can be true at the same time.
I can be very grateful... - Yes, 100%.
- And also wish that you would have been more upfront
and honest about what you wanted out of this adoption
before you took the baby.
- In terms of being "unblocked" and a visit,
I-I don't see that not happening, frankly.
It's just got to go through the baby steps,
but you are encouraged to send gifts on Christmas
and birthdays and when gifts are
completely appropriate, right?
- We have not been told that.
- We've not-- yeah, we don't know what--
- OK, so I'm here to... - The last thing...
- Tell you that.
- Yeah, the last thing that I heard was do not.
- If that is new information, I want you to have that...
- OK, great. - For sure.
- And I'm really appreciative of the information.
I think what it comes down to is that I'm hearing
the information from you and not the two people
we made an agreement with, which is weird to me.
- I know, listen, this is not going to be perfect.
What Teresa kept saying is that she absolutely wants
what you want and wants to maintain a relationship,
but she feels like she needs kind of a reset for everybody
to kind of calm down and let all
the negativity kind of settle.
As part of this reset, they shared something
very important with me,
something rather moving and remarkable from your daughter.
- Mm-hmm. - She sings in church.
She's quite an accomplished singer.
And they recorded a song of hers.
I would love to listen with you
because it is so moving.
It does kind of feel like Carly's sending a message of,
"I'm good."
Do you guys want to hear it?
[soft dramatic music]
♪♪ ♪♪
- ♪♪ Oh, it's gonna be a good day ♪♪
♪♪ No limits when I'm getting in my zone ♪♪
♪♪ I'm gonna go wherever it takes me ♪♪
- Are you excited? - Yeah.
I mean, we don't get to find anything out exciting today.
- I'm just excited that I get to see the baby.
- Megan's coming over tonight to plan for the party.
So we're gonna give her the envelope
that says what they are.
- Boy, boy, yeah.
- I feel good about having two girls!
Ooh, ooh!
I'm speaking a girl into existence.
- ♪♪ No limits, oh ♪♪
♪♪ I know it is ♪♪
- I cannot believe we're here.
- ♪♪ On my mind, no limits ♪♪
- All right, so we don't want to know the genders yet.
We're having a big gender reveal party tomorrow.
How does that work? Can you put it in an envelope?
- Yes, I will. - OK.
- Yay. - OK?
- Yay. - Put "boys."
- Let's listen to this baby's heart.
[heartbeat thumping]
And let's go to check Baby B.
[heartbeat thumping]
146, normal.
So now it's time to check baby's gender,
and this is the time to move this screen away from you guys.
I think we got the gender, guys.
- [humming excitedly]
- And I will put it in a envelope.
- Oh, my gosh.
We have to sleep tonight.
- I won't be able to.
[laughter]
- ♪♪ Who will tell the story ♪♪
♪♪ That's folding out before me? ♪♪
- Ooh, party people.
- Hello.
- That's cute.
OK, Megan. Guess what I have?
The envelope! - Did you peek?
- I didn't peek.
You can see that it's sealed. - Khesanio?
- Khesanio!
[laughter]
- ♪♪ I tell my friends that I'm happy ♪♪
♪♪ And then I think until I'm sick ♪♪
♪♪ It feels like I'm in a bad dream ♪♪
[knocking on door] - Come in.
- Hi.
- Welcome to my chaos.
- Hi, Ezra.
What are you eating, Ruffles?
- So what are you out doing?
- Well, I'm about to head and pick up Ali,
take her to therapy.
After her therapy appointment,
we're gonna go look at different cars
to see what modifications can be done to a vehicle for her
to have her wheelchair.
- I think Corey's gonna meet us out there,
and I also want to talk to him about Aleeah.
- Why?
- Aleeah asked me if she could have
her little boyfriend over for dinner.
I think that before the age of 16,
that's a little much.
I feel like adolescents need some kind
of structure and discipline.
You're not always gonna get what you want.
I get to be your friend, and I to be your parent, too,
and there has to be a balance in it.
- Or that parent can be a little too much sometimes.
- I don't think that I'm a little too much.
- Yeah, you're hard on my girl a little bit.
- I feel like it's my duty, as their mother,
to protect them, whatever it might be--
unplanned pregnancy, STDs,
or getting into a toxic relationship.
- But protecting them--
OK, dinner with the boyfriend at your house.
What are you protecting her from?
- What is the point in the dinner?
- To spend time-- - This is what I don't--
OK, you're not shacking up in a bedroom...
- No, absolutely not. I agree with that.
- With your boyfriend.
- OK, so Corey allows the boyfriend to come over.
- I don't agree with it. - Right.
- I think that we should be on the same page,
but this is something that we're not.
You're not cuddling with blankets over top of you
on the sofa.
It's not something that I want to allow
to be so accessible in my home.
- So does Corey let them do that?
- I'm saying that we have a different parenting style.
- It's accessible there.
- I'm saying we have a different parenting style.
- If all she asks for is to have dinner with her boyfriend,
they don't see it as, oh, my God,
I'm gonna marry you-- - No, we are not playing house.
- And cook you dinner, and then--
- They do see it that way.
When you start getting close to the family,
and you bring that dynamic, now you have the whole family
involved in this relationship.
I also think that they deserve to see
that a relationship doesn't have
to get that serious so young.
You know, when I was 13, I was already having sex.
Not only was I 13, I was having sex
with my mom's best friend's son
because guys were allowed around.
Giving them the tools that maybe I didn't have is vital.
- They was never put in the situations that you were.
They've never had to experience the things that you did.
You understand? So they've already--
they've already broke those cycles
by you breaking the cycles.
But at some point, you've got to let loose a little bit.
- Teens in general don't want to listen to their parents,
and they want to do what they want to do.
And Corey's not as strict as me,
but that's kind of co-parenting.
So I want to talk to him.
- Coming up...
- Oh, my God.
- ♪♪ Go on telling everybody that we'll be all right ♪♪
♪♪ We'll be all right ♪♪
♪♪ Go on telling everybody that we'll be all right ♪♪
♪♪ We'll be all right ♪♪
[phone rings] - Hola. Cómo estás?
- I am on my way to court.
- I mean, like, I'm nervous, but I feel good.
I'm ready for-- I'm ready.
- Honestly, I would just mention that,
like, he just got out of jail.
Like, he can't even be responsible with just
calling his daughter. You know what I mean?
- Yeah.
- So at this point, what is the--
why would he need any type of decision-making rights?
- Also, I don't trust that you wouldn't be hella drunk
and just have her in whatever environment.
- Yeah, or get upset.
In every situation he's been in that has been tough,
he showed himself to not be able to handle it.
He's not fit to be a parent right now.
- Yeah, I just want to make sure the words that I'm using
are just based in fact and concern
for the child versus coming off,
like, bitter or trying to throw up every negative thing
about him, you know?
- Well, use words like decisions.
You say, "I don't think he's fit to make any decisions
for the child right now." - Yeah.
- You got it. - Yeah.
I'm hoping so.
And, girl, I'm on time, on time.
I'm an hour early.
I'm not playing with them.
Well, I'll talk to you later.
I'll call you after and let you know what's tea.
- All right, bye. - All right, bye.
- Hi, Ashley. - Hi.
- How are you? How are you doing?
- Good. How are you?
- Good. How are you feeling?
- Thank you for meeting me. - Oh, of course.
Thank you. - I'm ready.
- I'm so glad that we are here.
Let's get this going. - Yeah.
- If you do see Bariki anywhere,
just let me know, like, what he's wearing,
and don't point at him and don't interact with him.
Don't engage with him.
Even if he comes up, I will definitely notify the marshal.
- OK.
- So this way, you don't have to worry about interacting.
And then we'll just go inside the courtroom, OK?
[soft dramatic music]
- I'm not gonna lie.
Like, it's a lot of emotion, you know, fighting for my kid.
It's very scary because,
even though I feel like I've done everything right,
when it's not in your hands, you just don't know.
And the only thing I have in this world is my kid,
so this really was the biggest fight of my life.
♪♪ ♪♪
[dramatic music]
♪♪ ♪♪
- Oh, I'm scared.
♪♪ ♪♪
[phone whooshes]
[exhales deeply]
I would say I have a hard time, like, forgiving
and forgetting and stuff like that.
The best way for me to forgive her
would be me moving on,
but I'm really glad that I actually
made my own move to actually push forward with myself
and what I want.
So I just hope that she is finding a way to accept it.
[phone dings]
♪♪ ♪♪
- Why is Leah messaging me?
♪♪ ♪♪
- What did she say?
- That nobody's influenced her decision.
All these years, it's been her decision to not be around me.
♪♪ ♪♪
And then you have this other piece of [bleep] nasty man,
and this is the [bleep] that I get from my daughter
that I love so much, and I can't even give her it?
I can't take her out on little dates
like I did with my son.
I couldn't take her out to go shopping.
I couldn't take her out to [bleep] eat alone.
Gary said I always had to go over there, you nasty prick.
And, Leah, stop.
You're 16.
Stop.
People see the disrespect, by the way,
and they tell me how much you disrespect me too.
Stop.
You're rude.
There's no reason to be rude.
You do not know what you are saying right now.
You're young. Be young.
Be 16. Be 16.
And do not be in the middle of me and your father.
[tense music]
- ♪♪ You're my surefire ♪♪
♪♪ When the world's coming down like a landslide ♪♪
♪♪ And you're looking at me with those eyes ♪♪
- So we are going to the place that we
can see different adaptations done in vehicles,
and you can check them out,
and your dad's gonna meet us there.
Just get an idea of what you like and don't like.
- OK.
- You know what I just realized?
- What?
- We're gonna be broke after we have to afford their cars.
Why do we have to pay for their cars?
Why can't they work?
It's your car, so you to pay for it.
- All right, Addie, whenever you're 15,
you better save up for that car.
- I'm looking for a horse before I even get a car.
- ♪♪ 'Cause you're my surefire ♪♪
♪♪ When the world's coming down like a landslide ♪♪
♪♪ And you're looking ♪♪
- What's going on? - Not much.
You ready to look at vehicles? - I guess.
Are you excited? - Uh-huh.
- Aleeah at practice?
- Yeah.
- ♪♪ 'Cause I got you ♪♪
♪♪ Oh, I got you ♪♪
- So, hypothetically, she would drive up in here
and lock into that mechanism, rotate it around a little bit.
♪♪ ♪♪
- That was pretty easy. - Yeah.
- Her eyes are not in a bad line of sight right there.
She's pretty much even in the glass.
- How's it feel? Do you like it?
- Yeah.
- Got a couple hand controls laid out inside
if you want to get a brief overview of that,
of what you might be using. - Uh-huh.
- I can't believe they're getting older,
and we're getting vehicles now.
- Yeah, it's-- it's really weird.
- This stays fixed,
but when you press down, it accelerates.
- Speaking of them getting older,
Aleeah asked if her boyfriend could come over,
and I said no--for dinner. - OK.
- She's very much like, "Oh, well, I can at my dad's."
You know?
- My approach with it is a total different approach.
You know, we pick him up Sunday morning before church.
He goes to church with us. We come home.
We have dinner.
I'll let them have their time with the door open.
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- I think the kid's a good kid.
I'm not saying anything bad about him.
- No.
- But being so close to your family and then like, well,
he's close to my dad, or he's close to my mom,
or he's close-- - Right.
- So I think that, for me, personally,
needs to come at an older age. - Right.
- That concerns me. - Right.
- I might seem strict, but it's just boundaries.
Like, if I set rules in the house,
I want it to follow through.
It's not just about not getting pregnant.
- Right, yeah.
- It is about providing structure and stability
and knowing discipline, so that way it's safe.
- Yeah, 100%.
- So it's not just my past, I'm saying.
- I never wanted to present to either one of them
that I'm super strict to where they feel
the need to work around me.
And I've told them from early on in middle school,
if you mess up, I want you to feel comfortable.
Say, I can go to Dad.
He's not gonna freak out.
Like, I want that kind of relationship for them.
And I feel like we're doing pretty good with that.
And I totally get it, 100%.
- So we just have different rules,
and that's yeah, co-parenting.
- Yeah, it's co-parenting, and that's just--
and I understand yours, and I for sure understand it.
You know, we're not there to be their friends.
You know what I'm saying? - Yeah.
- And I've told her a lot.
I said, "We both just want the absolute best for you."
- And same thing with Ali.
It's a little different, but we don't want her falling
and getting hurt because we want to keep her safe
and protect her.
- Different approaches, but same goal, basically.
- Yeah.
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- Teresa and Brandon sent Carly's recording to me.
I would love to listen with you because it is so moving.
Do you guys want to hear it?
- I have shared with Brandon and Teresa for multiple years
and even at the last visit how I would love to have
a video of her singing and not once...
- Or violin.
- Has Teresa ever given them to me,
but now she'll give them to you on TV.
I've asked for those things.
- Well, this is just the beginning.
It's not like I'm gonna be the conduit from now on.
But I think Carly kind of not just wants
to share with you, but with the world also.
I think she is participating in this.
She's proud of it.
- I'm just speaking for my own mental health
right now that it's very triggering for me
to listen to those things. I'm not ready to listen to it.
I want to be able to listen to it in private
because it's emotional, you know?
- 100%. - OK.
- This is a tender topic for everybody.
- We appreciate you, Dr. Drew. Thank you.
- Yeah, thank you. - All right, guys.
Good to talk to you.
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- I think the whole thing regarding the song and stuff
is just super confusing for me because
we've had this whole issue from really early on
about the public being involved in our adoption,
and, at first, they could see her face,
and then she turned four, and they said, "No more face,
just the back of her head."
It's gotten to a point where they didn't even like us
talking about adoption at all.
To go from that to now, all of a sudden,
we want to share her voice publicly,
share her song publicly...
- You know, to make you look good,
you're gonna say, "Here's a song that Carly
wanted to give to you,"
but then in turn be like, "But you can
only listen to it on camera."
- The intention didn't feel good to me.
- Well, and I feel like if Carly really wanted it
to be a gift to us-- - Then give me the gift.
I just feel like the intention feels--
it just feels manipulative. I'm sorry.
The only thing I got from the conversation
was Carly wants us to have this song.
- Mm-hmm. Yeah. - So that's great.
and I'm really grateful for that,
and I'm so happy that she's wanting that.
- One of [bleep] things about adoption is you make
this decision for your child, all these things,
and you're stuck with the feelings
and the emotions for life,
and that's hard.
Like, it never goes away.
- I regret placing my kid for adoption.
We didn't know we were gonna get financially stable.
We didn't know that we were gonna have resources to work
on our mental health and get better before
we brought more kids in the world.
- Yeah, I mean, some days I have those thoughts too.
- I'm sorry.
- Why are you saying you're sorry?
- I'm just sorry. I think--I'm just so--
I'm so sorry for you.
- Honey, you don't have to be sorry for me.
- Yeah, but babe, you were--
oh, my God.
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♪♪ ♪♪
I just think you deserved a lot better.
I think you deserved a lot more grace and understanding.
I think you were lied to. And I just feel like--
- We both were.
- I know, but I should have been more, like, aware.
I should have, like-- I don't know.
I just should have tried a lot of different things.
And I didn't, and I just feel like--
- Honey, we both didn't know anything at that point.
- I know, but I'm just-- I'm so sorry.
- You don't need to apologize.
I had you.
You've always loved me and made me feel important
and seen and heard.
- I just don't know why--
I don't understand.
- I don't understand it either.
- If I had to say anything to Carly,
if she's on the other end of this lens, like,
I'm so proud of you, and I'm sorry.
I love you, and,
yeah, I miss you.
That's-- yeah.
- We would love to hear Carly's song,
and I hope that we get the chance one day because,
I mean, it would mean the world to listen to that.
♪♪ ♪♪
Well, I love you.
- I love you. - I love you too.
- I love you more. [chuckles]
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♪♪ ♪♪
- So cheers.
We're cheersing to court today.
- OK. How did it go?
- It went good-- sole custody.
- Nice. - Yes.
Thankfully, Bar was not at court today.
- Thank God. Done and over with.
- Yeah.
It was so much more easy than I expected.
I was shocked. I was sitting there like--
- Like, did this really just happen?
- Yeah, I didn't know-- the judge was like--
- Yeah.
- The only question that he asked me that was,
like, I could openly respond to was, "What is your daughter--
"What's your daughter's age?
What is your daughter's hobbies?"
I said, "She likes gardening."
And then he was like, "Well, I'm gonna give you
"sole custody, and the next time I see you,
I hope your daughter brings me a squash."
[laughter]
The judge didn't even give him mandated visitation.
- Oh.
- 'Cause he was like, I want Bar to have
the responsibility of seeing the child.
If Bar wants to see Holly in Vegas,
he has to book a supervised visit at a center--
a safe--you know, it's like a place that that's what they do.
- How responsible do you think Bar will be
and able to, like, show you that he's responsible enough
to handle what you're asking?
- I don't know because I'm sitting here, and I'm like
reflecting, and I'm like...
has there ever really been a time where Bar was...
Providing?
The answer is no.
I know I've always said, like, Bar is a good guy,
but when I really think about it,
if it hadn't been for the effort I put in,
a lot of those times, he wouldn't have shown up.
So I don't know how responsible he's gonna be.
But I think now that I've stepped away,
we'll really see what kind of father he's gonna be.
- Yeah. Only time will tell.
- Yeah.
Just, like, to be totally severed--
like, everything I'm doing was always
overshadowed by his drama. - Yeah.
- It's just one of the chapters in my book,
and I don't want it to define me,
which is why I will not label this chapter victim.
And I feel like it made me mean and angry,
like, all the [bleep] time.
Like, I feel so much better now.
- ♪♪ With you has arrived ♪♪
- ♪♪ It's time to get up and move it ♪♪
♪♪ I think you already know ♪♪
♪♪ Act like there ain't nothing to it ♪♪
- Hi, guys.
- I know.
I would love to make it to 32 weeks.
- ♪♪ From the morning till the night ♪♪
♪♪ From the front to the back ♪♪
- What are you doing? - I'm winning.
- No!
-♪♪ Till you do it ♪♪
♪♪ Get up and move it ♪♪
[upbeat music]
♪♪ ♪♪
- All right, is everyone ready for the gender reveal?
- OK.
- One--go.
- ♪♪ Yeah ♪♪
[all cheering]
- ♪♪ Oh, yeah ♪♪
♪♪ Oh, yeah, oh, yeah ♪♪
[laughter, exclamations]
[all cheering]
[all chanting] Boy, boy, boy, boy, boy, boy,
boy, boy, boy, boy, boy, boy!
[all cheering]
- Oh, my gosh!
Oh, my gosh!
- Ha, two girls!
- How excited are you?
- I'm so excited.
And you're the best girl dad. I know you wanted a boy.
- You think so?
- You were born to be a girl dad.
- I'm just happy.
- Girl power.
- Every hour!
[bright music]
[all cheering]
- Yes, we have two girls!
♪♪ ♪♪
Yay, Jaxie has sisters!
[cheering]
- ♪♪ I want to hold you close ♪♪
♪♪ And never let you go ♪♪
♪♪ 'Cause I know forever ♪♪
♪♪ Was made for me and you ♪♪
♪♪ For me and you ♪♪
♪♪ ♪♪
♪♪ For me and you ♪♪
♪♪ ♪♪
♪♪ I want to feel like this forever ♪♪
♪♪ And catch my breath ♪♪
♪♪ Every time ♪♪
♪♪ You step ♪♪
♪♪ Into a room ♪♪
♪♪ I want to hold you close ♪♪
♪♪ And never let you go ♪♪
♪♪ 'Cause I know forever ♪♪
♪♪ Was made for me and you ♪♪
♪♪ For me and you ♪♪
- We are on bed rest, taking it easy for right now.
- Seems like it's--
it's just around the corner, Mack.
♪♪ ♪♪
- ♪♪ For me and you ♪♪
♪♪ ♪♪
- Zach and I are starting fertility treatment
literally in, like, four days.
Now, with that said-- I don't know.
I just feel weird today.
I'm taking a test.
So I put two in here.
♪♪ ♪♪
I found out today, so I had to tell you.
- Are you gonna have a baby?
[laughter]
- You're a big sister again.
- Again, Ry!
- Is she crying? - Yes.
- Aw.
♪♪ ♪♪
[upbeat music]
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