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[producer] What do you think we should do?

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- [Downey Sr.] Us?
- [producer] Yeah.

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See, if you could get this,

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like a close-up or maybe from here up.

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- [producer] Yeah?
- [Downey Sr.] You got it going?

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[producer] Well, no. I'm wide right now.

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No, I would get in tighter
'cause it'll be a cutaway.

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Yeah, you're gonna want this tight.
We might as well get that insert now.

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- Let us know when you're rolling.
- [Downey Sr.] Rolling? Let's start again.

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First, it's not moving.
You say, "Oh, this is bullshit."

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- [Downey Jr.] Yeah, yeah.
- [Downey Sr.] Then it starts moving.

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[Downey Jr.] "Wait a minute."

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"Maybe that serpent's
not full of shit after all."

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[Downey Sr. laughing]

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- Dad, can I give it a spin?
- Yeah, do it, please.

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[Downey Jr.] This might be
our first coproduction here.

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[Rogers laughs]

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[Downey Sr.] Nice. Nice!

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- ["Surf Finger" by Jack Nitzsche playing]
- [Downey Sr.] Hey, it's nice!

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- It needed your touch.
- [Downey Jr. laughing]

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[producer] Where would you go next?

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- After this?
- [producer] Yeah.

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We're not even halfway
to any ideas like that.

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[Rogers laughing]

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We're just having fun
and getting started. [chuckles]

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[groovy '60s rock playing]

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[Downey Jr.] Steady on those steps.

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- [Downey Sr.] Oh my God.
- Give him a hand, Rogers.

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- [Rogers] I got it.
- Let's not lose our principal.

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[Downey Jr.] I'm very interested
in who my dad is just in the here and now

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because no one knows the hour and the day.

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We never know how much time
we have with each other.

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I think, also, to me, like, he was
just always this kinda looming figure.

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Like, I was just
Bob Downey's kid for a long time.

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[music continues]

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[Cavett] Success may burst
like a clap of thunder

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over his head if he isn't careful,

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and he's a talented underground filmmaker
named Robert Downey.

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[crowd applauding]

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Do you feel a little compromised
by being here

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on a network television show?

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No, because I know
if the film doesn't open,

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and it doesn't do well,
I won't get to make another one.

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[music continues]

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[Downey Sr.] I knew the minute I started
fooling around with this stuff

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that it was better than working a job.

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Shouldn't you be in school?

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Fuck you.

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And fuck the establishment.

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And fuck you people

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who are trying to make me
part of the unestablished establishment.

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[Downey Jr.] I was raised in this family

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where doing underground films
was the norm.

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It was very natural to have no interaction
with mainstream anything.

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[music continues]

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[Letterman] What was the first film
you were in? One of your dad's projects?

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- [Downey Jr.] It was.
- [Letterman] What became of you then?

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- [sighs loudly]
- [crowd laughing]

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Then he became
the highest-paid movie actor in the world.

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- That's what he decided to do.
- Yeah, I guess, Dad, come get your cut.

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- [Letterman laughing]
- [crowd applauding]

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[Downey Sr.] That's a shot
with Robert and I ages ago.

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And the photographer says,

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"Why don't we each have
you guys have chainsaws?"

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And Robert said,
"Get the fuck out of here."

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Uh, we still... We're still happy
with the title <i>"Sr.," </i>are we not?

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Yeah, I like it,
but we can... we can do better.

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Oh.

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[music ends]

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[birds chirping]

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- [Downey Jr.] Where is Sr.?
- [producer] The back house.

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Yeah, let's go walk out there. Come on.

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["Theme from <i>A Summer Place</i>
(Instrumental)" by Percy Faith playing]

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You will presently witness

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the offspring of Sr.'s offspring.

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Don't throw water balloons
at the, uh... at my crew.

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I like that that's his kid,
and here's his daughter.

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Good shot.

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Great. Movement.

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Nobody's sitting.

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[Downey Jr.] Hey, have you seen
any of Grandpa's movies?

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No, why?

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Because they're awesome.
Do you wanna see 'em someday?

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- [Exton] Uh, maybe.
- Just a maybe.

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Dude, if you're gonna throw
a water balloon, hit me with it.

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[Downey Jr. laughing exaggeratedly]

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- [Downey Sr. chuckling]
- [Exton yelling on screen]

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- That's good.
- [Downey Jr. shrieks on screen]

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[chucking]

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[Downey Jr.] Avri, give us a wave.
That's all we need.

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Just give us a little wave. Ah, Christ.

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- [Exton exclaiming, laughing]
- [Downey Jr. laughing]

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[Exton] Get... You need to get
those hairs wet.

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[laughing] Jesus H...

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Don't you hit me again. I swear to God.

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Don't... don't get the camera wet.

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Quit it. Sr.?

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Your grandson is boundaryless.

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This is like growing up with my dad.

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"Hey, whatever you do,
don't get the camera wet."

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- Did you get it?
- We got it.

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We don't have anything usable yet,
except Exton provided some... some action.

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- You mind if I switch out real quick?
- No.

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Thanks.

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[song fades]

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[Downey Sr.] I just wanna show you
something before we do anything.

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- Just me?
- [Downey Sr.] No, Rosemary and you.

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Here she is.

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[Rogers] Robert had an idea
of doing a documentary about his dad

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and about their history
and their life together.

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You know, so many people,
they know Robert Downey Jr.,

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but they don't know Robert Downey Sr.

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And he just wanted to,
for the record, correct that.

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[Downey Jr.] We're just finding
our way into something

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that we hope winds up being interesting

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and not the usual

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and a bit of a foray
into that crazy thing,

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you know, of trying
to understand your dad.

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[producer] Do you feel
like you understand him now?

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I have a feeling I'll know a lot more...

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[laughs] ...when we're done.

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You come back,
which is probably where we'll start,

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to Robert and Rosemary on the couch,
and we go from there.

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Look, we'll do the same thing,
except we'll do it out there.

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Yeah.

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- "How long have you two been married?"
- That's me, right?

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- Yeah.
- Yeah.

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How long have you and Pops been married?

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Fifteen hundred years.

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See, I think this... We should switch seats.

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You should. Let's get her in the middle.

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- [Downey Sr. groans softly]
- Oh yeah.

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How long have you guys been married?

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Fifteen hundred years.

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- Oh boy.
- Mm-hmm.

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Did that go better this time?

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She looked up in the middle
of something up... up that way.

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You're right. Let's do it again.
Take three, opener.

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[Rogers laughing]

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[Downey Jr.] He would rather be doing
a film about something else

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than allow a documentary
to be made about him.

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So the middle ground has been
he's doing his own version.

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How long have you two been married?

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Uh, fifteen hundred years this July.

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- Oh my God.
- I know.

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- Oh wow, happy anniversary. Almost.
- Thank you.

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- Fine by me.
- Okay.

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- By the way, that's his directing style.
- [Rogers chuckles]

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[Downey Jr.] So then I put it
to him this way. I said, "Dad,

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the legitimate documentary
we're making about you

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is kinda what's covering the cost
of this art film that you're making."

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And he seems agreeable to that.

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Whoa!

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["Besame Mucho" by Artie Shaw
and His Gramercy Five playing]

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You got it? That's good.
That's worth the whole day.

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That's funny.

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I'm thinking any visuals
that you must like goes on file.

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And you never know.

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It could end up right somewhere
where you didn't expect it.

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What's the guy who said,
"One picture is worth a thousand words"?

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It's one <i>good</i> picture.

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Sr. would be one of the best people
to caption photographs or street scenes

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that you will ever meet.

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In a more of a typical, mid-century,
male, butch way though.

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Oftentimes it's, "Look at this douche."

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Look at this group.

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- [Rogers] What's going on over there?
- [Downey Sr.] AA meeting. [laughing]

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"Let's go have a drink. Nobody'll know."

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Look what's going on in that window.

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There should be somebody on the other side

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performing a wedding ceremony
for somebody outside.

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[chuckling] Maybe.

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[song continues]

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Well, here's the corner,
and this used to be an apartment building.

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This is it.

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I don't know what you're thinking,
but maybe

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you start on that
and then hear the dialogue

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and come over and show this.

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[producer] Okay.

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[song ends]

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[indistinct chatter]

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[Downey Sr.] 116 University
used to be, uh, three lofts,

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and we were on the next-to-top floor,
the second one up.

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Nothing's left.

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[producer] Did you feel pretty grown up?
Y'know, you had kids.

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No.

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No, that might be the problem. [chuckles]

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I don't know what Robert thought,
but it was different.

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[producer] Were you making a film
while you lived here?

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Oh yeah.

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[CD case clatters]

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"Downey film short"?

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I don't know what that is.

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I can get rid of all these.

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I'm just thinking
that I wanna go through my films

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and pick out scenes that I know will work
in what you're doing.

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That's actually more important
than anything.

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Oh, this is interesting.

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Let's start with this.

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[kissing]

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[woman] Mmm...

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[Downey Sr.] There it is.

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[woman] Love you, Walter.

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I'll see ya later.

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[woman] <i>I love you more
than anything else in the world.</i>

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[Walter] <i>I love you too, Mother.</i>

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[laughing]

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That's good.

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- [producer] Did you write that?
- [Downey Sr.] Oh yeah.

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This is how we got started.

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[producer] Your career?

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The whole fucking thing.

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[laughing]

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["Baja" by Jack Nitzsche playing]

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[mother] <i>You know, Walter, you can have
whatever you want in this life.</i>

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I guess the only thing I really want

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is you.

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<i>Chafed Elbows </i>is a film about an oddball

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who marries his mother
and goes on welfare.

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It is an ode to Oedipus.

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My mother, she didn't appreciate
<i>Chafed Elbows,</i> I'll tell you.

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Jesus.

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I said, "It's only a film."
She said, "I don't care what it is."

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[chuckling] "How dare you."

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[song continues]

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[Downey Sr.] We were having fun
figuring out how to focus a camera.

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None of us thought we were doing something
that had an audience.

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I know I'm robbing the cradle,
but at least it's my own.

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[Downey Sr.] Then suddenly, I got
this little review in <i>The New York Times</i>.

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The next morning,
there was a line around the corner

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for this little film in 16-millimeter.

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[producer] What was inspiring you
to make these movies?

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[Downey Sr.] It was unique.
It was different.

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I mean, where else could you be
doing something like making a movie,

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and you've never made one before?

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[producer] Can you hear that?

237
00:10:20,036 --> 00:10:21,954
[sirens wailing in distance]

238
00:10:22,913 --> 00:10:23,956
It all fits.

239
00:10:24,498 --> 00:10:25,934
- [producer] What, the siren?
- Yeah.

240
00:10:25,958 --> 00:10:30,004
[producer] Okay, okay. Did people
try to ascribe meaning to your movies?

241
00:10:31,047 --> 00:10:33,466
Oh my God. I hope not.

242
00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,053
[male voice] Would you people mind
if I joined you?

243
00:10:37,136 --> 00:10:39,305
- Come on, baby.
- [male voice] Oh yeah?

244
00:10:39,388 --> 00:10:41,349
Let me get my duds off here.

245
00:10:41,932 --> 00:10:43,017
Move over, champ.

246
00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:44,494
- Lemme in there, huh?
- [woman] Mmm.

247
00:10:44,518 --> 00:10:47,247
[Downey Sr.] We didn't know what
we were doing, but suddenly the films

248
00:10:47,271 --> 00:10:50,441
started getting better or weirder.

249
00:10:50,524 --> 00:10:52,735
["KHJ Radio Beds"
by Jack Nitzsche playing]

250
00:10:59,033 --> 00:11:01,118
[Downey Jr.] After <i>Chafed Elbows,</i>

251
00:11:01,202 --> 00:11:04,372
Sr. and Elsie, my mom,
they were just always writing.

252
00:11:04,455 --> 00:11:06,666
I think it's been a very creative day.

253
00:11:06,749 --> 00:11:10,836
[Downey Jr.] There was
this flow of people through the house

254
00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,005
for dailies and writing sessions.

255
00:11:13,089 --> 00:11:16,425
The time spent with him
was perfectly, wonderfully,

256
00:11:16,509 --> 00:11:18,719
deliciously insane.

257
00:11:18,803 --> 00:11:21,097
I'm in the middle of a nervous breakdown.

258
00:11:21,180 --> 00:11:23,849
[man] Well, do it somewhere else.
We're busy in here.

259
00:11:24,350 --> 00:11:27,061
[Lear] With an odd, odd sense of humor,

260
00:11:27,144 --> 00:11:29,855
he is so much his own man,

261
00:11:29,939 --> 00:11:31,774
so much his own artist.

262
00:11:32,441 --> 00:11:36,153
[Arkin] There's a kind
of benign nihilism through his work.

263
00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:38,489
Just the freedom of it.

264
00:11:38,572 --> 00:11:40,574
You didn't know where
the story was gonna go.

265
00:11:40,658 --> 00:11:42,660
You didn't know if there <i>was</i> a story.

266
00:11:43,244 --> 00:11:47,081
There was a sense that each moment
was allowed to play itself out

267
00:11:47,164 --> 00:11:49,250
until you're hysterically laughing.

268
00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,295
They'd moved whatever little crib I was in

269
00:11:53,379 --> 00:11:57,425
into the area adjacent
to where they were screening dailies.

270
00:11:57,508 --> 00:12:01,804
So I got very used to falling asleep
to the sound of clapboards.

271
00:12:01,887 --> 00:12:04,265
It's almost like I was being programmed.

272
00:12:04,348 --> 00:12:06,809
This one is Robert in a crib.

273
00:12:07,309 --> 00:12:10,146
- [producer] Did you put him there?
- It must have been me.

274
00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:13,441
[Downey Jr.] And I just remember
that cacophony of creativity.

275
00:12:13,524 --> 00:12:16,652
Lots of cigarettes and weed and booze,

276
00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:18,070
but mostly laughter.

277
00:12:18,154 --> 00:12:21,866
If you don't give me those 12 H-bombs,
I'm gonna drain your gold for ya.

278
00:12:21,949 --> 00:12:25,077
That's right, man, 12 H-bombs,
or I drain your gold for ya.

279
00:12:25,161 --> 00:12:26,245
[gun fires]

280
00:12:26,328 --> 00:12:30,708
One of the things I liked best about him
as a filmmaker and as a director,

281
00:12:30,791 --> 00:12:32,376
he'd just let me go wild.

282
00:12:32,460 --> 00:12:33,294
[gasps]

283
00:12:33,377 --> 00:12:38,424
I might add a few improvised words
or gestures, and I remember him saying,

284
00:12:38,507 --> 00:12:40,718
"I don't know what it means,
but I love it."

285
00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:44,388
[Arkin] I don't know how
he came up with his casting ideas.

286
00:12:44,472 --> 00:12:46,891
I couldn't figure it out
'cause they didn't seem like actors.

287
00:12:46,974 --> 00:12:48,142
I didn't know what they were.

288
00:12:48,225 --> 00:12:50,352
It's like he went down
to the Bowery half the time

289
00:12:50,436 --> 00:12:52,980
and just picked up people
who were half in the bag.

290
00:12:53,731 --> 00:12:55,441
But they were wonderful,

291
00:12:55,524 --> 00:12:59,236
just a wonderful bunch
of un-actory-looking people.

292
00:12:59,737 --> 00:13:01,322
What's going on?

293
00:13:01,405 --> 00:13:03,532
You gotta draw the line somewhere.

294
00:13:03,616 --> 00:13:06,827
[Downey Jr.] If there was
one undercurrent that was really shifty,

295
00:13:06,911 --> 00:13:10,122
it was either, "We're flush,"
or, "We're broke!"

296
00:13:10,206 --> 00:13:12,541
It was never like, "We're stable."

297
00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:15,252
By "flush," I mean 500 bucks in the bank.

298
00:13:15,836 --> 00:13:18,005
[man 1] We're ready to roll over here.

299
00:13:18,088 --> 00:13:21,884
I made one with just stills almost
'cause we couldn't afford film.

300
00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:23,594
[man 2] You can't direct nothing.

301
00:13:23,677 --> 00:13:26,782
[man 1] If it wasn't for me, you'd be
on unemployment with the rest of the scum

302
00:13:26,806 --> 00:13:27,848
of the underground cinema.

303
00:13:27,932 --> 00:13:29,975
[Downey Sr.] The early ones,
I made so cheaply.

304
00:13:30,059 --> 00:13:32,895
Just working a job somewhere,
I could get it done.

305
00:13:32,978 --> 00:13:34,063
[song continues]

306
00:13:34,146 --> 00:13:35,940
[Downey Jr.] Things were
just grounded enough

307
00:13:36,023 --> 00:13:38,400
that a very charismatic guy

308
00:13:38,484 --> 00:13:41,862
who had different ideas and curiosity

309
00:13:41,946 --> 00:13:45,449
could create a new standard of filmmaking.

310
00:13:46,158 --> 00:13:48,953
And I think he's someone
who has preserved that curiosity

311
00:13:49,537 --> 00:13:51,330
well into his autumn years.

312
00:13:52,081 --> 00:13:53,249
[music ends]

313
00:13:53,332 --> 00:13:55,000
[ship horn sounding]

314
00:14:00,631 --> 00:14:02,132
There it is. There it is.

315
00:14:02,883 --> 00:14:03,883
See it?

316
00:14:06,262 --> 00:14:09,431
It's kinda reassuring
to be in a city and see this, huh?

317
00:14:11,183 --> 00:14:14,061
If you had to introduce this scene,

318
00:14:14,645 --> 00:14:17,439
I wonder whether you would come down

319
00:14:17,523 --> 00:14:19,650
or pan down from a building to this

320
00:14:19,733 --> 00:14:22,444
or pan up from something here.

321
00:14:22,528 --> 00:14:24,071
I don't know. Both, maybe, right?

322
00:14:24,655 --> 00:14:27,825
That's an interesting image there.
Wow. Like a Western.

323
00:14:27,908 --> 00:14:30,452
["Stranger on the Shore"
by Jack Nitzsche playing]

324
00:14:40,421 --> 00:14:42,501
[Downey Sr.] Look at 'em all.
There are nine of them.

325
00:14:44,425 --> 00:14:48,262
How could they have all come out
of one duck?

326
00:14:51,015 --> 00:14:53,392
Look at Mom, perusing the whole joint.

327
00:14:54,435 --> 00:14:55,561
[Downey Sr. chuckling]

328
00:15:03,819 --> 00:15:06,155
- Remember the ducks you shot?
- [producer] Yeah.

329
00:15:06,697 --> 00:15:08,782
They've grown. They're big.

330
00:15:09,825 --> 00:15:11,744
We'll see 'em this afternoon if you want.

331
00:15:11,827 --> 00:15:13,078
They're big.

332
00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:17,333
I hope you guys are as happy
as I am with this footage.

333
00:15:20,336 --> 00:15:24,089
I think you need stuff
other than about movies, for balance.

334
00:15:24,173 --> 00:15:26,050
[producer] So it's not
just about the films?

335
00:15:26,133 --> 00:15:27,718
- Right.
- [producer] Who is this guy?

336
00:15:27,801 --> 00:15:28,802
Exactly.

337
00:15:30,262 --> 00:15:31,639
[producer] Who is this guy?

338
00:15:32,348 --> 00:15:35,392
Uh, I'll never know. [laughing]

339
00:15:35,476 --> 00:15:37,478
[song continues]

340
00:15:44,735 --> 00:15:46,153
[Downey Sr.] There they are.

341
00:15:47,112 --> 00:15:48,280
Oh my God.

342
00:15:52,201 --> 00:15:54,662
Wow. Heh!

343
00:15:56,705 --> 00:16:00,709
I've never seen this thing
with a real tiny one and a big one

344
00:16:01,418 --> 00:16:03,003
all within a lifespan.

345
00:16:04,797 --> 00:16:07,091
- Boy, I'm getting dizzy.
- [producer] Oh shit.

346
00:16:07,591 --> 00:16:09,872
- [Downey Sr.] Whoa.
- [producer] Can you go to the bench?

347
00:16:09,927 --> 00:16:11,647
- [Downey Sr.] Yeah.
- [producer] All right.

348
00:16:14,348 --> 00:16:17,685
- [Downey Sr.] Oh my God. Oh boy.
- [producer] That was a close call.

349
00:16:20,270 --> 00:16:22,356
[inhales sharply, groans]

350
00:16:22,439 --> 00:16:25,025
[producer] We gotta figure out
how to get him back upstairs.

351
00:16:25,109 --> 00:16:28,028
- No, I'll be all right.
- [producer] You'll be able to walk up?

352
00:16:28,529 --> 00:16:29,697
As long as you stick cl...

353
00:16:29,780 --> 00:16:32,241
- relatively close, I'll be okay.
- [producer] Yeah.

354
00:16:40,708 --> 00:16:46,088
I... I think I have to face
the, uh, idea of my problem

355
00:16:46,797 --> 00:16:49,550
and just cut away
to the shakes that I get sometimes.

356
00:16:49,633 --> 00:16:51,010
You just see that going on.

357
00:16:55,222 --> 00:16:58,726
And Rosemary, when it happens
in a restaurant or something,

358
00:16:58,809 --> 00:17:01,186
she just... she'll just go over
to me and go...

359
00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:02,270
[slaps other hand]

360
00:17:02,312 --> 00:17:03,897
[chucking] ...and it calms down.

361
00:17:05,357 --> 00:17:06,692
- Yeah.
- [producer] What is that?

362
00:17:07,192 --> 00:17:08,652
[Downey Sr.] The Parkinson's.

363
00:17:11,822 --> 00:17:13,574
I just thought... [spluttering]

364
00:17:13,657 --> 00:17:14,718
...you know... [spluttering]

365
00:17:14,742 --> 00:17:18,912
...there's a certain way I have to eat now.
Otherwise, the shit's all over the floor.

366
00:17:19,663 --> 00:17:20,664
So,

367
00:17:21,790 --> 00:17:22,791
let's face it.

368
00:17:23,292 --> 00:17:26,295
[phone dialing]

369
00:17:27,337 --> 00:17:29,506
[line ringing]

370
00:17:31,925 --> 00:17:34,928
- [prolonged exhale]
- [Downey Sr.] <i>Good morning.</i>

371
00:17:35,512 --> 00:17:36,555
Hi.

372
00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:40,142
- [Downey Sr.] <i>How are you?</i>
- [in sad voice] Sometimes I wonder<i>.</i>

373
00:17:40,642 --> 00:17:42,686
[Downey Sr. chuckling on phone]

374
00:17:42,770 --> 00:17:44,813
Tell me everything. How ya been?

375
00:17:45,481 --> 00:17:47,274
Um, okay.

376
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,360
[hesitating] Okay.

377
00:17:51,236 --> 00:17:53,822
Is it a struggle?

378
00:17:53,906 --> 00:17:57,242
Is it challenging?
Is it weird? Is it scary?

379
00:17:57,326 --> 00:18:01,080
On a certain day, any of those.

380
00:18:01,163 --> 00:18:05,751
You know, I do think that that should...
that should be part of the film.

381
00:18:05,834 --> 00:18:06,834
Oh.

382
00:18:07,336 --> 00:18:10,297
- I like that you have this project.
- [Downey Jr.] <i>Me too.</i>

383
00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:13,550
I don't know why. It's... it's creative

384
00:18:13,634 --> 00:18:17,387
and, uh, soothing to me on so many levels.

385
00:18:17,471 --> 00:18:18,471
Oh, yeah.

386
00:18:19,056 --> 00:18:21,725
<i>It's exciting
because it's not like anything else.</i>

387
00:18:21,809 --> 00:18:23,811
["Summertime" by Charles Mingus playing]

388
00:18:25,395 --> 00:18:26,480
Okay.

389
00:18:30,484 --> 00:18:34,154
[Rogers] With Parkinson's, you lose
a little bit of something every day.

390
00:18:35,405 --> 00:18:38,700
But he's so fully focused on this film.

391
00:18:40,369 --> 00:18:44,498
It's obviously energizing for him
and exciting for him.

392
00:18:46,083 --> 00:18:49,294
[Downey Sr.] It'll be on the left
if it's on this street.

393
00:18:49,378 --> 00:18:50,879
This might be it.

394
00:18:51,421 --> 00:18:52,840
[Rogers] Looks like it.

395
00:18:52,923 --> 00:18:54,174
[Downey Sr.] Could be.

396
00:18:54,258 --> 00:18:57,469
- [producer] Bob, where are we?
- [Downey Sr.] Great Jones Alley.

397
00:18:58,762 --> 00:19:00,180
Not Grace Jones.

398
00:19:01,014 --> 00:19:03,892
We paid a bum $50

399
00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:07,479
to lay down in a heap of depression.

400
00:19:08,313 --> 00:19:09,731
And then we did the scene.

401
00:19:11,024 --> 00:19:14,111
And he said, "Let's do it again,"
when we finished. [chuckles]

402
00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:16,822
That was nice. I do remember that.

403
00:19:18,740 --> 00:19:19,741
Wow.

404
00:19:19,825 --> 00:19:21,326
[producer] What was the scene?

405
00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:25,455
It was a scene where there's...
She's doing a commercial for...

406
00:19:28,041 --> 00:19:31,211
Actually, she's just so great-looking,
nobody cared what it was.

407
00:19:32,588 --> 00:19:35,340
["Eclipse (From <i>Putney Swope</i>)"
by Charley Cuva playing]

408
00:19:36,508 --> 00:19:38,719
You can't eat an air conditioner.

409
00:19:41,388 --> 00:19:45,517
[Downey Sr.] When I decided to make
a film about an ad agency,

410
00:19:45,601 --> 00:19:47,603
I think this is the quickest
I wrote anything.

411
00:19:47,686 --> 00:19:49,104
I was having so much fun.

412
00:19:50,397 --> 00:19:55,235
If we use c-c-creative foreplay

413
00:19:55,319 --> 00:19:57,779
before we penetrate,

414
00:19:58,405 --> 00:20:01,533
we'll b-b-b-b...

415
00:20:01,617 --> 00:20:02,910
[man 1] Bypass?

416
00:20:02,993 --> 00:20:04,828
- [man 2] B-b-b-b...
- Looks like.

417
00:20:04,912 --> 00:20:07,831
- [man 2] B-b-b-b...
- Sounds like.

418
00:20:07,915 --> 00:20:09,684
- [man 2] B-b-b-b...
- How many syllables, Mario?

419
00:20:09,708 --> 00:20:12,294
- [man 2] B-b-b-b...
- How many syllables, Mario?

420
00:20:12,377 --> 00:20:14,147
- [man 2] B-b-b-b!
- How many syllables, Mario?

421
00:20:14,171 --> 00:20:16,048
B-b-b! [groans]

422
00:20:17,257 --> 00:20:19,092
[Downey Sr.] It's about a white ad agency

423
00:20:19,176 --> 00:20:22,137
where the head of the agency dies
and has a heart attack.

424
00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:25,974
His board of executives
take his rings and watches and so forth,

425
00:20:26,058 --> 00:20:28,268
and they have to vote in
a new chairman of the board.

426
00:20:28,352 --> 00:20:30,854
The rules are you can't vote for yourself,

427
00:20:30,938 --> 00:20:33,774
so they all vote for the one Black guy
in the ad agency,

428
00:20:33,857 --> 00:20:36,693
thinking nobody else will vote for him,
and he's elected.

429
00:20:38,153 --> 00:20:41,406
- Swope.
- My father would have wanted it this way.

430
00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:44,493
He dug you very much.

431
00:20:44,576 --> 00:20:47,537
Your father was a horse's ass.

432
00:20:47,621 --> 00:20:50,707
He goes up to the head of the table
and says, "The changes I'm gonna make

433
00:20:50,791 --> 00:20:51,708
will be minimal."

434
00:20:51,792 --> 00:20:53,627
[Swope] I'm not gonna rock the boat.

435
00:20:53,710 --> 00:20:55,879
Rocking the boat's a drag.

436
00:20:55,963 --> 00:20:57,839
What you do is sink the boat!

437
00:20:57,923 --> 00:21:00,860
[Downey Sr.] Cuts over his back,
and there's 40 Black people sitting there,

438
00:21:00,884 --> 00:21:02,010
and the movie starts.

439
00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:05,305
I hear the film is really funny.
I would say that anyway, even if I hadn't.

440
00:21:05,389 --> 00:21:06,515
[crowd laughing]

441
00:21:06,598 --> 00:21:09,810
- But, uh... but I really do.
- I hope the film's more than funny.

442
00:21:09,893 --> 00:21:12,104
- Do you?
- I hope it has some sting in it too.

443
00:21:12,729 --> 00:21:15,232
<i>- As a window cleaner, forget it.</i>
- [funky rock music playing]

444
00:21:15,315 --> 00:21:17,109
Put soybeans in it for protein,

445
00:21:17,192 --> 00:21:19,736
and we'll push it as a soft drink
in the ghetto.

446
00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:24,324
There is no revolution
the way you're running this joint, man.

447
00:21:24,408 --> 00:21:26,243
Now, when is something gonna happen?

448
00:21:27,452 --> 00:21:29,413
[Downey Jr.] <i>Putney </i>was
right in the middle

449
00:21:29,496 --> 00:21:32,499
of all of that civil rights turmoil.

450
00:21:32,582 --> 00:21:35,419
How did that concept come to you?

451
00:21:35,502 --> 00:21:37,754
- I was working a job.
- [Downey Jr.] Mm-hmm.

452
00:21:37,838 --> 00:21:40,799
[Downey Sr.] <i>And the Black guy
working next to me said,</i>

453
00:21:40,882 --> 00:21:45,095
"You make more money than I do,
and we're doing the same thing."

454
00:21:45,178 --> 00:21:47,282
- [Downey Jr.] Right.
- [Downey Sr.] That did it for me.

455
00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:49,933
If I give you a raise,
everybody's gonna want a raise.

456
00:21:50,517 --> 00:21:54,146
And if I give them a raise,
we'll be right back where we started.

457
00:21:54,646 --> 00:21:57,274
[Downey Sr.] <i>I didn't think
anybody would come see it, but, boy,</i>

458
00:21:57,357 --> 00:21:58,692
<i>I... I didn't know shit.</i>

459
00:21:59,443 --> 00:22:01,570
["Born to Be Wild" by Steppenwolf playing]

460
00:22:10,829 --> 00:22:12,829
[Downey Sr.] It seemed
there was something going on

461
00:22:12,873 --> 00:22:15,792
that hooked into whatever
was socially going on

462
00:22:16,543 --> 00:22:17,919
and what the movie was.

463
00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:20,630
So it was a nice mirror.

464
00:22:20,714 --> 00:22:23,050
<i>♪ In whatever comes our way... ♪</i>

465
00:22:23,550 --> 00:22:25,310
[Downey Sr.] It wasn't really
about the movie

466
00:22:25,344 --> 00:22:27,429
as much as it was about society.

467
00:22:28,096 --> 00:22:30,640
<i>♪ Take the world in a love embrace... ♪</i>

468
00:22:31,141 --> 00:22:33,685
[Downey Sr.] If everybody
could get turned on

469
00:22:33,769 --> 00:22:36,313
to having a sense of humor
about themselves,

470
00:22:36,396 --> 00:22:39,691
I think we could get over a lot of things
that we take very, very seriously.

471
00:22:39,775 --> 00:22:43,236
We could approach the serious matters
in a different way,

472
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,032
like war and poverty
and all the things that are going on.

473
00:22:47,115 --> 00:22:48,200
[crowd shouting]

474
00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:52,788
<i>♪ Yeah, darlin', go and make it happen ♪</i>

475
00:22:53,288 --> 00:22:55,540
<i>♪ Take the world in a love embrace</i>...<i> ♪</i>

476
00:22:56,666 --> 00:22:59,252
[Downey Sr.] "Robert Downey
makes vile movies."

477
00:23:00,087 --> 00:23:02,631
<i>Life</i> magazine. Oh, really?

478
00:23:05,175 --> 00:23:08,135
- [producer] What'd you make of that?
- [Downey Sr.] That sounds all right.

479
00:23:08,929 --> 00:23:10,555
And this, did you get that one?

480
00:23:10,639 --> 00:23:13,767
[producer] <i>Putney Swope</i> was inducted
into the Library of Congress?

481
00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:17,687
That was wild that that film got in there.
That's usually Hollywood films.

482
00:23:18,814 --> 00:23:20,440
[Downey Jr.] What did that mean to you

483
00:23:20,524 --> 00:23:24,653
when you started getting
the approval of the filmmakers

484
00:23:24,736 --> 00:23:29,324
that were, for lack of a better word,
important in that generation?

485
00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:31,868
That must have meant something.

486
00:23:31,952 --> 00:23:34,246
Yeah, it meant
that I could do another film.

487
00:23:34,329 --> 00:23:39,418
Kinda like you belonged
and you were being validated in some way?

488
00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:42,295
Well, that's a pretty interesting theory.

489
00:23:42,379 --> 00:23:44,464
[laughing]

490
00:23:44,548 --> 00:23:45,924
Nice deflection.

491
00:23:46,508 --> 00:23:47,634
[laughing]

492
00:23:47,717 --> 00:23:51,012
He knows that I'm attempting
to understand something

493
00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:52,973
and that I'm turning a camera on him.

494
00:23:53,056 --> 00:23:58,228
What he's trying to do is turn the camera
onto what it is he's trying to say.

495
00:23:59,020 --> 00:24:00,939
What that is remains to be seen.

496
00:24:03,150 --> 00:24:05,610
What a bay over here, my God.

497
00:24:05,694 --> 00:24:07,988
It's beginning to look like Rockaway.

498
00:24:09,489 --> 00:24:12,742
["Besame Mucho" by Artie Shaw
and His Gramercy Five playing]

499
00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:14,706
[producer] Bob, why did you
wanna come out here?

500
00:24:14,786 --> 00:24:17,831
When I was 15,
I used to come here in the summer.

501
00:24:19,374 --> 00:24:22,043
It was known
as the last stop on the subway.

502
00:24:23,336 --> 00:24:25,297
Oh my God, you've gotta get that.

503
00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:31,595
This is great.

504
00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:35,474
[song continues]

505
00:24:36,099 --> 00:24:37,517
Boy, that was wild.

506
00:24:37,601 --> 00:24:39,102
[woman] Can we say "cheese"?

507
00:24:40,228 --> 00:24:42,230
[both laughing]

508
00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:45,066
My friend.

509
00:24:46,109 --> 00:24:48,737
My nutty friend. [laughing]

510
00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:50,380
[woman] How long you guys been married?

511
00:24:50,822 --> 00:24:51,948
Fifteen hundred years.

512
00:24:52,032 --> 00:24:53,825
[women laughing]

513
00:24:54,451 --> 00:24:57,579
[producer] Do you ever feel
like you're living in one of your films?

514
00:24:57,662 --> 00:24:58,788
Right now.

515
00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:02,209
[laughing]

516
00:25:02,292 --> 00:25:04,002
[producer] Were your films this loose?

517
00:25:04,085 --> 00:25:07,214
Sometimes, yeah.
But this has been the freest.

518
00:25:08,089 --> 00:25:09,089
Yeah.

519
00:25:09,132 --> 00:25:11,927
Everything turns into everything
sooner or later.

520
00:25:12,010 --> 00:25:15,555
Things will turn into something else,
which turns into something else.

521
00:25:15,639 --> 00:25:18,225
And then something doesn't work.
You throw that out.

522
00:25:18,725 --> 00:25:20,227
It's called "follow the film."

523
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:21,910
["Summertime" by Charles Mingus playing]

524
00:25:21,937 --> 00:25:25,232
I still feel, on some level,
like he's fucking with us.

525
00:25:26,107 --> 00:25:32,030
He knows that there's a bit of interplay
between capturing a story about him

526
00:25:32,113 --> 00:25:35,659
and also him keeping
himself interested in the process.

527
00:25:37,702 --> 00:25:38,912
And cut.

528
00:25:38,995 --> 00:25:41,873
Wow! No transition required.

529
00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:45,219
- [Downey Sr.] What's the difference?
- I know what you're doing now.

530
00:25:45,252 --> 00:25:46,419
- [Downey Sr.] What?
- I know.

531
00:25:46,503 --> 00:25:49,923
And because I believe he is connected

532
00:25:50,006 --> 00:25:53,885
to some sort of creative deity,

533
00:25:53,969 --> 00:25:57,180
my job is to figure out what it all means.

534
00:25:57,264 --> 00:25:58,984
[producer] What's this scene
we're watching?

535
00:25:59,057 --> 00:26:02,894
It's just, uh, the walk
towards the, uh, door,

536
00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:04,688
the out... outdoor door.

537
00:26:06,022 --> 00:26:08,483
- [producer] How does it fit in the movie?
- Who knows?

538
00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:11,695
[producer] You directed this one.
What's the po... What's the plan?

539
00:26:11,778 --> 00:26:14,364
[assistant] Yeah, your plan
is what we need to hear.

540
00:26:15,782 --> 00:26:19,619
Uh, I think we should split
into two camps,

541
00:26:19,703 --> 00:26:23,456
and both editing things
are leading towards the same thing,

542
00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:25,083
the editing of this film.

543
00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:29,129
But you might get something out of one
that you won't get with the other.

544
00:26:29,879 --> 00:26:32,382
I think I should rent an apartment
in this building

545
00:26:32,465 --> 00:26:34,426
and get some equipment in here.

546
00:26:34,509 --> 00:26:35,635
Let's go.

547
00:26:35,719 --> 00:26:37,721
["Modern People" by Roger Neill playing]

548
00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:53,862
[Downey Jr.] <i>You like the idea of getting
a shot of the gate opening, right?</i>

549
00:26:53,945 --> 00:26:54,863
[Downey Sr.] <i>If we can.</i>

550
00:26:54,946 --> 00:26:57,426
[Downey Jr.] <i>I think we can.
We're gonna go down the road here.</i>

551
00:26:57,866 --> 00:27:00,327
<i>I'm taking you down
the garden path, Father.</i>

552
00:27:00,410 --> 00:27:01,411
[Downey Sr. laughing]

553
00:27:01,995 --> 00:27:04,039
And the farther away you are, the better.

554
00:27:04,122 --> 00:27:05,582
[Downey Jr. laughing]

555
00:27:05,665 --> 00:27:08,376
[producer] <i>Did you guys...
Did you take a road trip together?</i>

556
00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:11,087
[Downey Sr.] Yeah,
across the country once.

557
00:27:11,171 --> 00:27:14,090
<i>- From Santa Fe down to LA.</i>
- [producer] <i>Yeah.</i>

558
00:27:14,591 --> 00:27:15,717
<i>What was that like?</i>

559
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,469
I was in charge of the hash pipe.

560
00:27:18,011 --> 00:27:19,512
[Downey Sr. laughing]

561
00:27:19,596 --> 00:27:20,680
That was interesting.

562
00:27:21,973 --> 00:27:24,392
I don't know
if it belongs here, but I like it.

563
00:27:25,894 --> 00:27:28,730
[Downey Jr.] <i>Uh, we need
a Jack Nitzsche cue right here.</i>

564
00:27:29,606 --> 00:27:32,025
[Downey Jr. vocalizing
"Rumble" by Jack Nitzsche]

565
00:27:38,198 --> 00:27:41,409
[producer] So, from that,
would you go into one of your films?

566
00:27:41,910 --> 00:27:45,872
We could, or we could stick
with this a little longer.

567
00:27:45,955 --> 00:27:48,291
["Rumble" by Jack Nitzsche playing]

568
00:27:51,044 --> 00:27:53,648
- [Downey Jr.] Don't go too fast.
- [Downey Sr.] Whoa, wait a minute.

569
00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:57,092
- [Downey Jr. laughing]
- [Downey Sr.] Wait a minute. Jesus.

570
00:27:58,218 --> 00:28:00,929
[Downey Jr.] His cut
is very much a work in progress.

571
00:28:01,012 --> 00:28:02,972
It is not all that linear.

572
00:28:03,473 --> 00:28:06,434
It's like if you give
a director no deadline

573
00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:09,062
for when his project
is supposed to be finished

574
00:28:09,145 --> 00:28:12,023
or really any narrative
for what it should be to begin with,

575
00:28:12,107 --> 00:28:14,943
it can be a little, uh, kooky.

576
00:28:15,026 --> 00:28:19,197
[narrator] <i>Fourth floor.
Solarium, aquarium, sanitarium,</i>

577
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,742
<i>drunk tank, celebrities,
children's diseases, going up.</i>

578
00:28:23,493 --> 00:28:26,996
[Anderson] Bob doesn't seem to be
that worried about confusing the audience.

579
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,415
- Um...
- [crowd laughing]

580
00:28:28,498 --> 00:28:29,978
[Anderson] And that's why it's great.

581
00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:32,627
There is a kind of pattern
to the way that he does things

582
00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:34,963
and that you either get with or you don't.

583
00:28:35,046 --> 00:28:37,549
But, man, I'm, like,
you know, smitten with it.

584
00:28:37,632 --> 00:28:39,759
[Downey Sr.] You know,
Paul, he loves films

585
00:28:39,843 --> 00:28:41,928
more than most people I run into.

586
00:28:42,011 --> 00:28:45,724
When I met him, I couldn't believe
he knew the '60s more than I know.

587
00:28:45,807 --> 00:28:47,350
And he's a wonderful writer.

588
00:28:47,434 --> 00:28:48,268
Action.

589
00:28:48,351 --> 00:28:51,813
Come on, come one, come on! All right?
All we need is the tapes, Burt.

590
00:28:52,355 --> 00:28:53,189
No.

591
00:28:53,273 --> 00:28:57,527
He asked me to pop in one day
and fuck around on camera, and I did that.

592
00:28:57,610 --> 00:28:59,946
We can't pay the price of the demo tapes

593
00:29:00,029 --> 00:29:03,491
unless we take the demo tapes
to the record company and get paid.

594
00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:04,909
Hello? Exactly!

595
00:29:05,994 --> 00:29:08,830
That's not an MP. That's a YP,

596
00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:10,248
your problem!

597
00:29:10,331 --> 00:29:13,835
I had fun with Paul Anderson,
doing it. That was fun.

598
00:29:14,335 --> 00:29:16,629
It's no mystery that Paul Thomas Anderson

599
00:29:16,713 --> 00:29:19,257
is probably the son
my dad wishes he had had,

600
00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:21,551
and they like to rub that in my face.

601
00:29:21,634 --> 00:29:23,636
["<i>Pound</i> Score" by Charley Cuva playing]

602
00:29:26,473 --> 00:29:28,183
[Downey Sr.] Paul says
something something,

603
00:29:28,266 --> 00:29:30,703
and I said, "I gotta get out of here.
I gotta go to my train."

604
00:29:30,727 --> 00:29:32,887
And he said, "I'm coming with you."
And I said, "What?"

605
00:29:35,565 --> 00:29:37,984
[producer] Was this for a documentary or...

606
00:29:38,067 --> 00:29:40,487
[Downey Sr.] You never know
with him what he's doing.

607
00:29:40,987 --> 00:29:42,822
He might have been doing
something like that.

608
00:29:42,906 --> 00:29:44,616
I haven't heard about it since.

609
00:29:46,326 --> 00:29:48,446
[Anderson] Let me get another battery
before we go up.

610
00:29:48,495 --> 00:29:49,662
For my pacemaker?

611
00:29:49,746 --> 00:29:50,914
[Anderson laughing]

612
00:29:52,957 --> 00:29:55,418
[laughing]

613
00:29:55,502 --> 00:29:58,546
[Anderson] I mean, if you hang around
with Bob to get to know Bob,

614
00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:00,924
he's got the most fantastic sense
of humor,

615
00:30:01,007 --> 00:30:04,010
and he just has this incredible confidence

616
00:30:04,093 --> 00:30:07,305
to just commit to his rhythm
of telling a story.

617
00:30:07,889 --> 00:30:11,017
And so, as another filmmaker,
it's invigorating.

618
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,228
And it reminds you, like,
to have that confidence,

619
00:30:13,311 --> 00:30:14,938
to have that trust in yourself.

620
00:30:15,897 --> 00:30:18,858
It's hard to walk,
never mind hold the camera.

621
00:30:19,442 --> 00:30:23,154
[Downey Jr.] Dad used to take the train.
Last ride you did was with PTA?

622
00:30:23,238 --> 00:30:26,366
But since, none, and no flying.

623
00:30:26,449 --> 00:30:29,536
[Downey Sr.] Yeah,
I don't fly anywhere. I'm paranoid.

624
00:30:29,619 --> 00:30:33,081
[Lear] He was sensitive to the train.

625
00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:35,291
He was sensitive
to getting on and off the train.

626
00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:38,253
[chuckles] He was sensitive to weather.

627
00:30:38,336 --> 00:30:40,046
[Downey Jr.] Are elevators
still a problem?

628
00:30:40,129 --> 00:30:41,256
[Downey Sr.] Oh yeah.

629
00:30:43,383 --> 00:30:45,426
- That's some... Don't...
- [producer] Oh shit.

630
00:30:46,094 --> 00:30:49,305
I told you I was stuck in here
for an hour and a half one night,

631
00:30:49,389 --> 00:30:50,723
and I couldn't get out.

632
00:30:50,807 --> 00:30:53,518
There was a Russian guy on the elevator.

633
00:30:53,601 --> 00:30:57,105
Kept saying, "Are we gonna be all right?"
I said, "How the fuck do I know?"

634
00:30:57,605 --> 00:30:59,440
[song continues]

635
00:31:00,024 --> 00:31:02,402
[Downey Jr.] Do you think
all these neuroses, ultimately,

636
00:31:02,485 --> 00:31:06,364
are part and parcel to creativity,
or do you think they're just a drag?

637
00:31:06,447 --> 00:31:08,241
- Little of both.
- Yeah.

638
00:31:09,659 --> 00:31:12,328
- I think we have some new characters.
- [Anderson] Yeah.

639
00:31:12,412 --> 00:31:15,665
The hour before the crash landing,
it was scary.

640
00:31:15,748 --> 00:31:17,584
Not the landing. We... we made it.

641
00:31:17,667 --> 00:31:19,794
But ever since then,
I haven't been able to face it.

642
00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:21,438
[Anderson] So what are
the chances you're gonna get

643
00:31:21,462 --> 00:31:22,839
in two plane crashes in your life?

644
00:31:22,922 --> 00:31:24,340
I'll never find out.

645
00:31:24,424 --> 00:31:25,425
I'm too scared.

646
00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:28,011
That crash landing,

647
00:31:28,511 --> 00:31:30,889
that... that happened
when I was in the army.

648
00:31:30,972 --> 00:31:32,652
["The Last Race" by Jack Nitzsche playing]

649
00:31:32,682 --> 00:31:35,476
We were on a C-47,
which is a two-engine plane.

650
00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:40,189
And about an hour or so in,
one of the engines stopped.

651
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:42,984
And a lot of us were really young.

652
00:31:43,067 --> 00:31:46,738
Every time we'd see something
coming close to the window in the plane,

653
00:31:46,821 --> 00:31:50,450
it looked like the end.
It was a tree or something else.

654
00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:53,286
And finally, this sergeant guy
started saying,

655
00:31:53,369 --> 00:31:55,955
"I don't wanna die.
I don't wanna die. I don't wanna die."

656
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,917
And we're looking at him,
like, "Are you fucking nuts?"

657
00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:01,711
"You're supposed to be helping us."

658
00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:05,298
Anyway, the plane landed, crash-landed.

659
00:32:05,381 --> 00:32:08,760
Nobody died. Nobody got hurt.
Just banged up a little.

660
00:32:08,843 --> 00:32:12,263
He walks off the plane
like nothing's wrong.

661
00:32:12,347 --> 00:32:14,766
We started calling him
every name in the book.

662
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:18,561
So he got a hold of me
and put me in the stockade. [laughs]

663
00:32:19,228 --> 00:32:20,908
[producer] Were you always a troublemaker?

664
00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:21,940
Yes.

665
00:32:22,523 --> 00:32:25,818
[producer] And so why did you think
going in the army would be a good idea?

666
00:32:25,902 --> 00:32:27,111
Who knows?

667
00:32:28,446 --> 00:32:31,741
I used my stepfather's name
to go in the army underage

668
00:32:31,824 --> 00:32:34,410
with a fake birth certificate. Downey.

669
00:32:34,994 --> 00:32:41,459
Elias is the actual blood name
of both my dad, Robert Elias,

670
00:32:41,542 --> 00:32:45,922
my dad's dad, my grandfather,
also Robert Elias.

671
00:32:46,005 --> 00:32:50,051
He changed it because,
when he joined the army underage,

672
00:32:50,551 --> 00:32:55,890
he did not feel that having
a Jewish-sounding last name would be good,

673
00:32:55,974 --> 00:32:58,142
whereas an Irish last name should be fine.

674
00:32:58,643 --> 00:33:00,979
You spent a little time
in the stockade here and there

675
00:33:01,062 --> 00:33:02,647
'cause you can't stay out of trouble.

676
00:33:02,730 --> 00:33:04,774
What would you call that chapter?

677
00:33:05,358 --> 00:33:06,526
[Downey Sr.] <i>"The Beginning."</i>

678
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:09,112
- [Downey Jr.] <i>Really?</i>
- Yeah.

679
00:33:09,195 --> 00:33:10,405
Tell me why.

680
00:33:10,905 --> 00:33:13,116
[Downey Sr.] <i>The boss
in the stockade said,</i>

681
00:33:13,199 --> 00:33:14,367
<i>"Don't just sit around here."</i>

682
00:33:14,450 --> 00:33:15,618
<i>- "Do something."</i>
- Yeah.

683
00:33:15,702 --> 00:33:18,871
[Downey Sr.] <i>And he said, "Here,
take this pad and write something down."</i>

684
00:33:18,955 --> 00:33:19,789
Wow.

685
00:33:19,872 --> 00:33:23,584
So I just started scribbling,
and suddenly, some of it made sense.

686
00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:27,171
A random act of kindness from your jailer.

687
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:29,048
You started writing.

688
00:33:29,132 --> 00:33:30,883
Yeah, that's right.

689
00:33:30,967 --> 00:33:35,263
[Downey Jr.] <i>Did any of that wind up being
the beginnings of any of your early work?</i>

690
00:33:35,346 --> 00:33:36,346
Yeah.

691
00:33:36,931 --> 00:33:38,307
I had no idea.

692
00:33:39,225 --> 00:33:41,227
["<i>Pound</i> Score" by Charley Cuva playing]

693
00:33:44,939 --> 00:33:46,607
Why do I have to die?

694
00:33:49,902 --> 00:33:51,571
I never hurt anybody<i>.</i>

695
00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:55,867
[Downey Jr.] In <i>Pound</i>,
there was definitely

696
00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:58,911
a more dramatic backdrop.

697
00:33:58,995 --> 00:34:03,499
[Downey Sr.] Yeah.
Eighteen dogs waiting in a pound,

698
00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:05,460
and they have an hour to live.

699
00:34:06,085 --> 00:34:10,214
[Downey Jr.] If people are playing dogs,
then really the movie is about people.

700
00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:13,301
Me, him, and Fido
are gonna bust out of here.

701
00:34:13,384 --> 00:34:14,385
Who's joining me?

702
00:34:14,969 --> 00:34:17,972
[Downey Jr.] It had a lot of tension
in it too, which was great.

703
00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:19,390
[Downey Sr.] In hindsight,

704
00:34:19,474 --> 00:34:22,268
turned out that it was
much better than I thought it was.

705
00:34:22,351 --> 00:34:25,396
Seeing as how <i>Pound</i> was my official debut,

706
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,357
<i>I think it's your most underrated of all.</i>

707
00:34:28,441 --> 00:34:30,234
[Downey Sr. laughing]

708
00:34:30,318 --> 00:34:32,987
["Score from <i>Pound</i> 'Lame Mutha'"
by Charley Cuva playing]

709
00:34:33,071 --> 00:34:35,073
<i>♪ Don't ya say hello ♪</i>

710
00:34:36,032 --> 00:34:37,366
<i>♪ Hello... ♪</i>

711
00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:39,911
[interviewer] Is this the picture
Bobby Jr. made his debut in?

712
00:34:39,994 --> 00:34:41,162
[Downey Sr.] That's right.

713
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,792
- [Interviewer] At the age of what? A baby?
- [Downey Sr.] Let's see. It was 1970.

714
00:34:45,875 --> 00:34:48,711
So... five.

715
00:34:48,795 --> 00:34:52,632
I... I think we asked him to do the part
'cause we couldn't get a babysitter,

716
00:34:52,715 --> 00:34:54,759
and we knew that part was coming up.

717
00:34:54,842 --> 00:34:57,220
And we, uh, summoned him. It was easy.

718
00:34:57,303 --> 00:35:00,681
That tornado scared me so much,
it made my hair disappear.

719
00:35:01,307 --> 00:35:03,101
Have any hair on your balls?

720
00:35:03,601 --> 00:35:04,936
I'm afraid to look.

721
00:35:05,019 --> 00:35:07,688
I didn't know what the line meant,
that I was asked to say,

722
00:35:07,772 --> 00:35:09,732
which is, "Got any hair on your balls?"

723
00:35:10,274 --> 00:35:12,860
- Oh, to the bald guy. Bald-headed dog.
- To the bald guy.

724
00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:15,363
- He was playing a Mexican hairless, right?
- Yeah, yeah.

725
00:35:15,446 --> 00:35:18,658
He seemed a little shy when he said it.
It almost... But it worked beautifully.

726
00:35:18,741 --> 00:35:21,160
You know, there was
no need for a second take.

727
00:35:21,244 --> 00:35:22,328
[man] Gimme that.

728
00:35:22,411 --> 00:35:26,374
[producer] When you first put Robert
on screen, did you recognize that he was...

729
00:35:26,457 --> 00:35:27,792
[Downey Sr.] Everybody did.

730
00:35:27,875 --> 00:35:30,878
Everybody was saying to me,
"Oh, where'd you get <i>this </i>guy?"

731
00:35:31,462 --> 00:35:33,798
It's that first time that's everything.

732
00:35:33,881 --> 00:35:36,134
You could tell
that he knew what he was doing.

733
00:35:36,968 --> 00:35:40,179
He didn't need my help. He was possessed.

734
00:35:40,263 --> 00:35:42,598
He was tap dancing
in the driveway out there,

735
00:35:42,682 --> 00:35:45,768
and subconsciously,
I knew he never had to go to school.

736
00:35:45,852 --> 00:35:47,478
This guy's gonna be an actor.

737
00:35:48,354 --> 00:35:52,733
[Downey Jr.] When I saw cameras,
I perceived it as it's time with my dad.

738
00:35:53,526 --> 00:35:56,237
Sometimes, like, I...
He would be walking by,

739
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,365
and he went out and grabbed the camera
and said, "Don't move." [laughs]

740
00:35:59,448 --> 00:36:00,575
I was like, "Whoa!"

741
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,579
["Two Tons of Turquoise to Taos Tonight
Score" by Nitzsche/Sanborn/Arica playing]

742
00:36:06,247 --> 00:36:08,725
[Downey Jr.] It probably felt to me
what it felt like to Exton,

743
00:36:08,749 --> 00:36:12,962
running around in the background
and hosing me down with pool water

744
00:36:13,045 --> 00:36:15,631
and, you know, asking,

745
00:36:15,715 --> 00:36:17,925
"Are we shooting the movie
again tomorrow?"

746
00:36:18,509 --> 00:36:21,888
[Downey Sr.] That's Robert
and his sister fighting in the kitchen.

747
00:36:23,347 --> 00:36:26,309
I was just there with the camera
on the other end of the thing,

748
00:36:26,392 --> 00:36:29,187
just thinking of nothing,
and this broke out.

749
00:36:30,813 --> 00:36:32,607
[producer] How was Sr. as a father?

750
00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:33,691
Um,

751
00:36:34,233 --> 00:36:38,779
complicated in that most of his attention

752
00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:42,366
was on the process of chasing the muse.

753
00:36:43,034 --> 00:36:47,413
I knew that we were not like
the other families.

754
00:36:47,496 --> 00:36:50,583
I used to like to take him to films
that I thought would be interesting

755
00:36:50,666 --> 00:36:52,752
and not think about, "He's a kid."

756
00:36:52,835 --> 00:36:55,796
In fact, they wouldn't let me
into a film...

757
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,090
Oh, <i>La Grande Bouffe.</i>

758
00:36:58,174 --> 00:36:59,926
["Petite Chanson De L'amour" playing]

759
00:37:00,009 --> 00:37:02,720
[Downey Sr.] Four guys
in Italy get together every year

760
00:37:02,803 --> 00:37:04,430
and start feeding each other.

761
00:37:04,513 --> 00:37:07,433
It gets so out of control.
It's disgusting.

762
00:37:07,516 --> 00:37:11,062
I forgot that Robert was with me,
and I went to go see it,

763
00:37:11,145 --> 00:37:14,065
and the person taking tickets
says, "He can't come in."

764
00:37:14,148 --> 00:37:15,650
"This is X-rated."

765
00:37:15,733 --> 00:37:16,859
I said, "Come on."

766
00:37:16,943 --> 00:37:18,861
So I called the distributor,

767
00:37:18,945 --> 00:37:21,906
and he says,
"Put that guy on. How dare he."

768
00:37:21,989 --> 00:37:23,741
Blah blah blah blah blah.

769
00:37:23,824 --> 00:37:28,204
And the ticket-taker takes the call
and says, "You can go in now." [laughing]

770
00:37:28,287 --> 00:37:30,873
I'll put it this way,
we weren't watching <i>Fantasia.</i>

771
00:37:33,626 --> 00:37:36,170
[Downey Sr.] In fact, I took him to see
<i>The Harder They Come.</i>

772
00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:38,381
[reggae music playing]

773
00:37:38,464 --> 00:37:40,675
[Downey Sr.] We went in,
and it was raining that day,

774
00:37:40,758 --> 00:37:42,885
so there were leaks in the theater.

775
00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:45,137
And we were sitting
on the back of the seats.

776
00:37:45,721 --> 00:37:48,099
And when we left there, we said, "Wow."

777
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:51,102
"There was nobody else
in the theater but us."

778
00:37:51,185 --> 00:37:53,396
And that, somehow, made it even better.

779
00:37:53,479 --> 00:37:58,276
I remember a lot of theaters
that were greasy and weird,

780
00:37:58,359 --> 00:38:02,780
but it was this idea
that films kind of brought us together

781
00:38:03,364 --> 00:38:05,408
and, to this day, still do.

782
00:38:06,075 --> 00:38:07,795
[Downey Sr.] I got... I got plenty of that.

783
00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:10,227
Let's see if he doesn't hang himself
on his sound wire first.

784
00:38:10,288 --> 00:38:11,622
[Downey Sr. laughing]

785
00:38:11,706 --> 00:38:14,041
Do you mind if we show the crew
in the documentary?

786
00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:16,335
- Not at all.
- [Downey Jr.] How come?

787
00:38:16,419 --> 00:38:19,588
Because it lets everybody know
we know what we're doing.

788
00:38:19,672 --> 00:38:20,672
Right.

789
00:38:21,007 --> 00:38:23,551
They might not like it,
but we know what we're doing. Yeah.

790
00:38:23,634 --> 00:38:25,794
It's pretty clear
we know what we're doing here, right?

791
00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:27,680
We have to know something.

792
00:38:28,472 --> 00:38:33,853
Here's where we can talk
about, uh, three generations of, um...

793
00:38:33,936 --> 00:38:35,021
Bug jobs.

794
00:38:35,104 --> 00:38:36,397
Of bug jobs.

795
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,109
What is it that I say to you
when you're getting on my nerves?

796
00:38:40,192 --> 00:38:42,570
Hey, hey, don't be a bug job.

797
00:38:42,653 --> 00:38:43,821
[Downey Jr. and Sr. laughing]

798
00:38:43,904 --> 00:38:47,325
- And that comes from Dad telling me.
- Don't be a bug job. Hey!

799
00:38:47,408 --> 00:38:51,287
For the very first time,
you tell Pop to not be a bug job.

800
00:38:51,370 --> 00:38:52,371
- Hey!
- Mean it.

801
00:38:52,455 --> 00:38:54,874
- Hey, don't be a bug job.
- There it is.

802
00:38:54,957 --> 00:38:57,043
- You don't be a bug job.
- [Exton giggling]

803
00:38:57,126 --> 00:38:58,544
What we're gonna do is we're all...

804
00:38:58,627 --> 00:39:01,797
the three of us
are gonna have a quick espresso.

805
00:39:01,881 --> 00:39:02,941
[Exton] I... I drink coffee.

806
00:39:02,965 --> 00:39:05,843
You can have a little sip of mine,
but don't tell Mom.

807
00:39:05,926 --> 00:39:06,802
[laughing]

808
00:39:06,886 --> 00:39:08,179
[Exton] I never tell Mom.

809
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:10,639
[continues laughing]

810
00:39:13,392 --> 00:39:14,632
[Downey Jr.] Here's a good one.

811
00:39:15,978 --> 00:39:20,191
Sr. as I remember him circa 1971.

812
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:23,194
So I would be Exton's age.

813
00:39:23,944 --> 00:39:25,905
That's Pop, and that's my mom, Elsie.

814
00:39:26,739 --> 00:39:28,324
And then that was another take.

815
00:39:29,617 --> 00:39:31,243
This is from <i>Greaser's.</i>

816
00:39:31,744 --> 00:39:33,537
That's from <i>Greaser's Palace,</i> yeah.

817
00:39:34,997 --> 00:39:37,375
Most holy one, let me see.

818
00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:39,919
Messiah. Messiah.

819
00:39:40,002 --> 00:39:41,420
If you feel, you heal.

820
00:39:42,046 --> 00:39:44,507
["Stranger on the Shore"
by Jack Nitzsche playing]

821
00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:50,346
[man on ground] I can crawl again!

822
00:39:50,429 --> 00:39:52,264
I can crawl again!

823
00:39:52,932 --> 00:39:55,184
[producer] What was
the genesis of <i>Greaser's</i>?

824
00:39:55,267 --> 00:39:58,145
[Downey Sr.] Well,
this lady wanted me to make a movie.

825
00:39:58,229 --> 00:39:59,549
She said, "What do you wanna do?"

826
00:39:59,605 --> 00:40:02,024
I said, "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
pop into a Western."

827
00:40:02,108 --> 00:40:03,308
She said, "Fine. Go write it."

828
00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:05,986
She gave it to her husband,
who had a lot of money.

829
00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:09,323
He read it, and he said to me,
"Is this gonna make any money?"

830
00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:11,742
I said, "I don't think so,"
and he said to his wife,

831
00:40:11,826 --> 00:40:13,702
"He's charming. Give him the money."

832
00:40:13,786 --> 00:40:17,581
At least he was honest
about what he really was thinking.

833
00:40:17,665 --> 00:40:23,045
It didn't look like a Christ figure
parachuting into a Western

834
00:40:23,129 --> 00:40:24,755
is gonna make a dime. [chuckles]

835
00:40:25,381 --> 00:40:29,009
[Downey Jr.] This time you got
to really take advantage of the landscape.

836
00:40:29,718 --> 00:40:32,179
The cinematography
starts getting pretty lush,

837
00:40:32,263 --> 00:40:35,224
and you have stunts,
you have wagon wheels,

838
00:40:35,307 --> 00:40:38,018
and you literally built Greaser's Palace

839
00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:39,520
and then blew it up.

840
00:40:43,357 --> 00:40:44,650
[song continues]

841
00:40:44,733 --> 00:40:49,572
Do not make us doubt and speculate.
Say to us why you are here.

842
00:40:50,823 --> 00:40:54,285
[Downey Jr.] I know you like leaving
the meaning up to the audience,

843
00:40:54,368 --> 00:40:58,581
but there's
deep, deep, deep spiritual messaging

844
00:40:58,664 --> 00:40:59,664
in that movie

845
00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:03,711
that even as a grown-ass man,
I'm still trying to figure out.

846
00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:06,505
- I'm glad you said it.
- [Downey Jr. laughing]

847
00:41:06,589 --> 00:41:08,966
[both laughing]

848
00:41:11,177 --> 00:41:12,178
[song fades]

849
00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:13,971
[Nancy] Bob, how are you?

850
00:41:15,806 --> 00:41:16,807
I'm all right.

851
00:41:23,439 --> 00:41:27,234
[producer] We know him as a provocateur
and stirring the pot with his films,

852
00:41:27,318 --> 00:41:31,113
but is there something surprising,
as a sister, your take on him?

853
00:41:31,197 --> 00:41:34,742
I always say that he's an innocent to me.
He's an innocent.

854
00:41:36,285 --> 00:41:38,204
- That's a new one. [chuckles]
- And a purist.

855
00:41:38,287 --> 00:41:40,372
- It's good.
- No, it's true. You are.

856
00:41:40,956 --> 00:41:42,416
Even as a person, you are.

857
00:41:43,042 --> 00:41:47,755
He's irreverent in his humor,
but he reveals so much. He's so honest.

858
00:41:48,631 --> 00:41:49,798
Give me a hug.

859
00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:53,260
- [both kissing]
- [Nancy chuckles]

860
00:41:53,344 --> 00:41:54,762
[both] Mmm.

861
00:41:54,845 --> 00:41:56,764
[producer] When you saw Robert Jr.,

862
00:41:56,847 --> 00:41:58,974
did you see
similarities in father and son?

863
00:41:59,058 --> 00:42:00,267
[Nancy] Oh yes.

864
00:42:00,351 --> 00:42:03,395
[producer] You know, I feel like Robert
got a lot of his humor from his dad.

865
00:42:03,479 --> 00:42:06,649
Yes, but also, his mom was a riot.

866
00:42:07,399 --> 00:42:08,959
["<i>Pound</i> Score" by Charley Cuva playing]

867
00:42:09,026 --> 00:42:10,402
How are ya doin'?

868
00:42:11,153 --> 00:42:13,155
[man] Are you the Virgin Mary?

869
00:42:14,448 --> 00:42:15,783
Just call me Mary.

870
00:42:17,743 --> 00:42:20,663
[Wolf] Elsie Downey was a great actress,

871
00:42:20,746 --> 00:42:23,874
who could have done
incredible things on her own,

872
00:42:24,375 --> 00:42:26,919
but chose to work with her husband.

873
00:42:27,795 --> 00:42:31,257
She was extremely talented, lovable.

874
00:42:31,757 --> 00:42:34,677
The sweetest person you'd ever wanna meet.

875
00:42:35,177 --> 00:42:37,096
The only thing
about these low-budget films

876
00:42:37,179 --> 00:42:39,598
is that all the action
is behind the camera.

877
00:42:40,224 --> 00:42:42,476
[producer] With Elsie,
was it clear right away

878
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,521
that, "Hey, we're gonna actually
make these films together"?

879
00:42:45,604 --> 00:42:48,440
No, I met her way before I made films.

880
00:42:48,524 --> 00:42:51,151
Just off-off-Broadway plays.

881
00:42:51,235 --> 00:42:53,445
[Nancy] When they met, it was like...

882
00:42:53,529 --> 00:42:55,406
[mimics explosion] It was over.

883
00:42:55,489 --> 00:42:57,533
They were just... they got each other.

884
00:42:57,616 --> 00:43:00,202
They would laugh.
They would have us laughing.

885
00:43:00,286 --> 00:43:03,163
I mean, she was just
such a natural comedian.

886
00:43:03,247 --> 00:43:05,624
So for Robert, coming from this couple,

887
00:43:07,126 --> 00:43:09,962
he had to be who he was.

888
00:43:10,045 --> 00:43:12,798
[producer] Did you feel like you learned
from your mom as an actor?

889
00:43:12,881 --> 00:43:14,550
Pretty much everything, yeah.

890
00:43:15,926 --> 00:43:18,304
Seeing her being directed by Dad,

891
00:43:18,887 --> 00:43:21,849
she was wildly devoted

892
00:43:21,932 --> 00:43:26,812
to whatever creative stream
of silliness he was onto.

893
00:43:28,188 --> 00:43:30,608
And I remember
when we were doing <i>Greaser's Palace,</i>

894
00:43:30,691 --> 00:43:34,069
like, she was climbing up
these sand dunes over and over again.

895
00:43:34,153 --> 00:43:37,406
She had no problem
doing something that's exacting.

896
00:43:38,115 --> 00:43:40,743
- [producer] Did you put her in a lot?
- Anything we could.

897
00:43:40,826 --> 00:43:44,246
'Cause she'd do anything.
She'd try anything. She knew what to do.

898
00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:48,751
Oh, there's the moment
when she discovers her son is dead.

899
00:43:48,834 --> 00:43:52,212
And that's Elsie
as the mother in <i>Greaser's Palace.</i>

900
00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:55,049
She can't find her son, who's Robert.

901
00:43:55,132 --> 00:43:56,675
[sad music playing]

902
00:43:56,759 --> 00:44:00,888
[Downey Jr.] I played a boy
who got his neck slit by God,

903
00:44:01,388 --> 00:44:02,931
whose mother finds him.

904
00:44:03,432 --> 00:44:06,644
[Downey Sr.] At the end of the film,
he's brought to life again.

905
00:44:08,479 --> 00:44:11,815
And I think he was so excited
to do a scene with his mom.

906
00:44:12,775 --> 00:44:14,652
[Downey Jr.] <i>Greaser's,</i>
I had a lot of pride of

907
00:44:14,735 --> 00:44:16,695
'cause I was old enough
to know I was in it,

908
00:44:16,779 --> 00:44:19,782
and I'm starting to feel like
a little bit of a movie brat.

909
00:44:19,865 --> 00:44:20,949
[Downey Sr. laughing]

910
00:44:21,033 --> 00:44:22,409
And it was a good time.

911
00:44:22,493 --> 00:44:24,578
I mean, I wanna thank you.
You got us out of town.

912
00:44:24,662 --> 00:44:26,455
[Downey Sr.] That was fun. That was fun.

913
00:44:26,538 --> 00:44:29,291
- [Downey Jr.] Was that a happy time?
- [Downey Sr.] It was.

914
00:44:29,875 --> 00:44:31,752
And then it all fell apart.

915
00:44:34,046 --> 00:44:36,048
[sniffing loudly]

916
00:44:37,091 --> 00:44:38,091
[inhaling]

917
00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:39,259
[sniffing loudly]

918
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,720
[woman] Whoo! Ah!

919
00:44:41,804 --> 00:44:44,139
[woman inhaling] Ah!

920
00:44:44,848 --> 00:44:46,892
I comes to a fork in the road...

921
00:44:46,975 --> 00:44:47,893
[woman laughs]

922
00:44:47,976 --> 00:44:49,770
...with a spoon in my nose.

923
00:44:49,853 --> 00:44:51,313
[woman laughing hysterically]

924
00:44:51,397 --> 00:44:54,066
[producer] What advice would you
have given yourself at that point?

925
00:44:54,149 --> 00:44:55,901
Don't touch drugs.

926
00:44:57,277 --> 00:45:00,477
["Two Tons of Turquoise to Taos Tonight
Score" by Nitzsche/Sanborn/Arica playing]

927
00:45:03,117 --> 00:45:09,289
I have a job for you.
Two tons of turquoise to Taos tonight.

928
00:45:09,790 --> 00:45:12,167
[Downey Jr.] The title sequence

929
00:45:13,252 --> 00:45:16,839
looks almost like a heist-type thing.

930
00:45:16,922 --> 00:45:18,924
And all these characters
are getting together,

931
00:45:19,007 --> 00:45:21,760
but one guy walks in
wearing a full wet suit.

932
00:45:21,844 --> 00:45:23,929
As he's unhooking
his weight belt, he goes...

933
00:45:24,513 --> 00:45:26,825
[Downey Jr. and actor]
"What about Larry? He's into tacos."

934
00:45:26,849 --> 00:45:28,851
[Downey Jr.] And he snaps his belt open.

935
00:45:30,310 --> 00:45:32,855
It was trying to transcend

936
00:45:32,938 --> 00:45:35,649
even being something
that people could say was a movie.

937
00:45:35,733 --> 00:45:38,878
["Two Tons of Turquoise to Taos Tonight
Score" by Nitzsche/Sanborn/Arica playing]

938
00:45:38,902 --> 00:45:43,532
You basically said that the plot
was Sanborn's saxophone...

939
00:45:43,615 --> 00:45:47,202
[laughing] ...which, to me,
is so next level.

940
00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:50,247
- That's true. You do follow the sax.
- Yeah.

941
00:45:50,330 --> 00:45:51,957
If you wanna hang on to something.

942
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,210
[female narrator] <i>Let your mind go.
Let your body go.</i>

943
00:45:55,294 --> 00:45:56,879
<i>Let your wallet go.</i>

944
00:45:57,546 --> 00:46:00,966
[Downey Sr.] On this one,
it was such a weird, disconnected thing.

945
00:46:01,049 --> 00:46:03,552
I would maybe shoot for an hour
and go home.

946
00:46:03,635 --> 00:46:07,598
You know, 'cause I was tired
or fucked up or whatever.

947
00:46:07,681 --> 00:46:10,893
[Downey Jr.] I think the goal pattern
was in a really weird place,

948
00:46:10,976 --> 00:46:13,729
and so maybe
that was justifying the usage.

949
00:46:13,812 --> 00:46:16,982
My dad was
down in the basement with his editor

950
00:46:17,065 --> 00:46:19,485
seemingly for two years,

951
00:46:19,568 --> 00:46:23,739
and I was like,
"That seems like a long time on post."

952
00:46:23,822 --> 00:46:25,741
You know, we knew what
was going on down there.

953
00:46:25,824 --> 00:46:28,619
[producer] Was that era fun?
Was it a struggle?

954
00:46:28,702 --> 00:46:30,078
I was a drug addict.

955
00:46:30,579 --> 00:46:33,123
Mainly cocaine and, uh, marijuana.

956
00:46:34,166 --> 00:46:36,502
Total, total insanity.

957
00:46:36,585 --> 00:46:39,129
[laughing hysterically]

958
00:46:39,213 --> 00:46:40,213
All right!

959
00:46:40,672 --> 00:46:42,341
[Downey Jr.] I knew that the work

960
00:46:42,424 --> 00:46:45,677
had kind of started becoming
more of an excuse.

961
00:46:45,761 --> 00:46:48,096
And then it wasn't but shortly after that

962
00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:50,390
that my folks broke up.

963
00:46:51,183 --> 00:46:52,518
[song ends with sax flourish]

964
00:46:52,601 --> 00:46:54,601
[Downey Sr.] <i>Turn around.
Wave goodbye at the door.</i>

965
00:46:54,645 --> 00:46:57,731
<i>You're all fucked up with your umbrella.
Say goodbye, and go inside. Bye-bye.</i>

966
00:46:57,815 --> 00:46:59,691
- [chuckling]
<i>- </i>[Elsie] <i>Bye-bye.</i>

967
00:47:01,318 --> 00:47:04,905
- [Downey Sr.] Have a nice nighty tonight.
- [Elsie] Have a nice nighty tonight.

968
00:47:04,988 --> 00:47:07,115
Yeah, even though
we split from each other,

969
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:08,742
we spoke to each other a lot.

970
00:47:09,493 --> 00:47:10,970
<i>- </i>[Downey Sr.] <i>Good night.</i>
- [Elsie] <i>Good night.</i>

971
00:47:10,994 --> 00:47:13,747
- [Downey Sr.] And have a nice nighty.
- Have a nice night... Oh!

972
00:47:13,831 --> 00:47:15,991
- [Elsie laughing]
- [Downey Sr. laughs while watching]

973
00:47:17,292 --> 00:47:19,586
Yeah, it does bring back big memories.

974
00:47:24,132 --> 00:47:25,132
[trainer] Deep breath.

975
00:47:26,134 --> 00:47:27,135
[inhales deeply]

976
00:47:28,762 --> 00:47:29,930
[exhales sharply]

977
00:47:30,722 --> 00:47:33,392
- [groans]
- And reach. Reach backwards.

978
00:47:35,227 --> 00:47:36,436
And pull again.

979
00:47:37,020 --> 00:47:38,355
You're breathing, right?

980
00:47:38,856 --> 00:47:40,315
- I hope so.
- [laughing]

981
00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:41,858
Yes.

982
00:47:42,192 --> 00:47:44,486
When I first came here,
it was, like, a little tight.

983
00:47:44,570 --> 00:47:47,322
- Yeah, that's a good way of saying it.
- [both laugh]

984
00:47:47,823 --> 00:47:49,491
[Jaime] We call on God a lot, right?

985
00:47:49,575 --> 00:47:52,536
Like, God this
and, "Oh, God, one more squat."

986
00:47:52,619 --> 00:47:54,329
"Oh, God, another celery."

987
00:47:54,413 --> 00:47:55,581
It's really funny.

988
00:47:55,664 --> 00:47:59,084
- [Downey Sr.] Where is this guy?
- [Jaime] We still haven't seen him.

989
00:47:59,167 --> 00:48:01,962
No, every time I read
the front page of the <i>Times</i>,

990
00:48:02,045 --> 00:48:04,506
I say, "Where is this fucker?"

991
00:48:04,590 --> 00:48:05,716
[Jaime laughing]

992
00:48:05,799 --> 00:48:07,926
- [producer] That's pretty good.
- It's great.

993
00:48:09,136 --> 00:48:11,847
[producer] Then where? We have freedom.

994
00:48:11,930 --> 00:48:15,851
Is there anything
right wh... where you cut out?

995
00:48:15,934 --> 00:48:16,977
[producer] Here we have...

996
00:48:17,853 --> 00:48:22,399
Well, Robert must have thought something
because he... he's a total workout guy.

997
00:48:23,191 --> 00:48:25,944
<i>Maybe he thought,
"I don't wanna end up like my father."</i>

998
00:48:26,445 --> 00:48:30,407
- ["Unfunky UFO" by Parliament playing]
- That ain't bad. [laughs] That ain't bad.

999
00:48:30,490 --> 00:48:31,491
[producer] Add it?

1000
00:48:32,284 --> 00:48:33,285
Yeah.

1001
00:48:33,869 --> 00:48:38,498
<i>♪ You've got all that is really needed ♪</i>

1002
00:48:38,582 --> 00:48:43,086
<i>♪ To save a dying world
From its funkless hell... ♪</i>

1003
00:48:43,587 --> 00:48:46,798
See, who knew we'd cross the bridge
that I hadn't crossed today

1004
00:48:46,882 --> 00:48:50,385
because I thought I could get away
without walking, and now look.

1005
00:48:51,219 --> 00:48:52,346
[laughing]

1006
00:48:52,888 --> 00:48:54,222
[producer] Do you love New York?

1007
00:48:54,306 --> 00:48:55,306
Oh yeah.

1008
00:48:55,641 --> 00:48:57,434
<i>I get inspired here.</i>

1009
00:48:57,935 --> 00:49:02,314
<i>How do you make a film in Los Angeles?
We've seen every possible shot.</i>

1010
00:49:02,397 --> 00:49:05,651
<i>The same corner. The same freeway.</i>

1011
00:49:05,734 --> 00:49:07,569
It's all different out here.

1012
00:49:08,487 --> 00:49:11,156
<i>♪ You've got all that... ♪</i>

1013
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,449
Look at this over here.

1014
00:49:14,201 --> 00:49:15,619
[Downey Sr. laughing]

1015
00:49:16,286 --> 00:49:17,287
Jesus.

1016
00:49:18,747 --> 00:49:22,084
Look at the light now.
My God, that's wild.

1017
00:49:23,251 --> 00:49:26,505
<i>I guess this is crying out for a 360.</i>

1018
00:49:30,050 --> 00:49:31,176
Wrong tripod.

1019
00:49:32,427 --> 00:49:34,763
The other good thing
about any project in New York,

1020
00:49:34,846 --> 00:49:36,056
if you wanna go that way,

1021
00:49:36,139 --> 00:49:39,893
is to, once in a while,
bring in the real sound we talked about.

1022
00:49:39,977 --> 00:49:42,020
- Turn it up. Don't say a word.
- [song fades out]

1023
00:49:42,104 --> 00:49:43,355
Just happens.

1024
00:49:43,438 --> 00:49:44,982
[ship horn blaring]

1025
00:49:46,358 --> 00:49:47,567
[siren in distance]

1026
00:49:47,651 --> 00:49:48,652
[cars honking]

1027
00:49:50,112 --> 00:49:52,114
[siren continues]

1028
00:49:54,825 --> 00:49:56,451
[producer] Where do you go from there?

1029
00:49:57,035 --> 00:50:00,205
I'll look in here... [laughing]
...and see if there's anything.

1030
00:50:01,123 --> 00:50:02,416
Maybe... We'll... we'll see.

1031
00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:06,420
Maybe, um, we break
into the middle of Robert and me.

1032
00:50:07,129 --> 00:50:08,797
- [producer] Mm-hmm.
- [Downey Sr.] Maybe.

1033
00:50:10,215 --> 00:50:11,508
[producer] Yeah, let's try it.

1034
00:50:11,591 --> 00:50:13,343
Hi, is this Dad?

1035
00:50:13,844 --> 00:50:14,845
[Downey Sr.] <i>Yeah.</i>

1036
00:50:14,928 --> 00:50:16,054
Is this Sonny?

1037
00:50:16,138 --> 00:50:17,764
[Downey Jr. laughing] <i>This is Sonny Boy.</i>

1038
00:50:17,848 --> 00:50:19,266
[Downey Sr. laughing]

1039
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:20,183
Hey, man.

1040
00:50:20,267 --> 00:50:22,310
[Downey Sr.] <i>So,
what do we wanna talk about?</i>

1041
00:50:22,394 --> 00:50:24,771
[Downey Jr.] <i>Let's talk about LA today.</i>

1042
00:50:25,439 --> 00:50:27,232
- Oh my God.
- I'm sorry.

1043
00:50:27,315 --> 00:50:29,067
We're gonna do it all, baby.

1044
00:50:29,151 --> 00:50:30,235
Oh my God.

1045
00:50:30,318 --> 00:50:31,820
[Downey Jr. laughing]

1046
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,906
["Voices of Spring, Op. 410" playing]

1047
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:38,577
[Downey Sr.] When you first get there
and never been there,

1048
00:50:38,660 --> 00:50:41,705
it's kinda romantic
because of all the literature.

1049
00:50:41,788 --> 00:50:44,875
But you soon find out
it's a lot of lip service about,

1050
00:50:44,958 --> 00:50:47,836
"We really wanna make
a film with you," and this and that.

1051
00:50:47,919 --> 00:50:50,714
"Let's see how it goes,"
and that kinda stuff.

1052
00:50:51,298 --> 00:50:54,634
The first question they ask you, usually,
out there, when you make a film,

1053
00:50:54,718 --> 00:50:56,178
"You think it'll make money?"

1054
00:50:56,803 --> 00:51:00,140
You know, friends of mine
would say, "You're doomed."

1055
00:51:00,223 --> 00:51:02,434
["Diggin' In"
by Harold Faltermeyer playing]

1056
00:51:02,517 --> 00:51:03,769
[major] You're outcasts,

1057
00:51:03,852 --> 00:51:06,772
embarrassments to your families
and your communities.

1058
00:51:07,773 --> 00:51:09,274
Disgraces.

1059
00:51:09,357 --> 00:51:10,557
Something wrong with you, boy?

1060
00:51:10,609 --> 00:51:12,319
No, it's just a little chilly in here.

1061
00:51:12,402 --> 00:51:15,072
Don't you mean,
"It's just a little chilly in here, sir"?

1062
00:51:15,155 --> 00:51:16,656
- [boy] Yes, sir.
- Well, say it.

1063
00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:18,533
It's just a little chilly in here, sir.

1064
00:51:18,617 --> 00:51:21,095
- [major] Say it again.
- It's just a little chilly in here, sir!

1065
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:23,914
- Say it again.
- It's just a little chilly in here, sir!

1066
00:51:23,997 --> 00:51:25,749
That's what I thought you meant.

1067
00:51:25,832 --> 00:51:30,921
Was <i>Up the Academy</i> ostensibly
the first studio movie you ever did?

1068
00:51:31,004 --> 00:51:33,090
[Downey Sr.] <i>Yeah. Disaster.</i>

1069
00:51:33,173 --> 00:51:35,550
And I was thinking, "Get me out of here."

1070
00:51:35,634 --> 00:51:37,219
Tell me everything.

1071
00:51:38,053 --> 00:51:41,389
[Downey Sr.] It was supposed to be
a military academy for kids.

1072
00:51:41,932 --> 00:51:44,017
The script was about 16-year-olds.

1073
00:51:44,101 --> 00:51:47,312
It'd simply be more effective
if they're ten years old.

1074
00:51:47,395 --> 00:51:50,315
He said, "All the kids should be kids.
We shouldn't be casting teenagers."

1075
00:51:50,357 --> 00:51:53,151
Now, that would have been a nightmare,
and it was very impractical.

1076
00:51:53,235 --> 00:51:55,237
Was the studio gonna let it happen? No.

1077
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,280
They said, "Are you insane?"

1078
00:51:57,364 --> 00:52:00,283
I said, "What do you mean?
I just wanna change the ages."

1079
00:52:00,367 --> 00:52:02,369
"Well, you're not gonna do that
around here."

1080
00:52:02,994 --> 00:52:07,124
I learned how to get along with people
by doing what was asked of me.

1081
00:52:07,207 --> 00:52:08,875
No shit.

1082
00:52:09,459 --> 00:52:12,546
[Downey Jr.] Up to that point,
he had kinda been protected.

1083
00:52:12,629 --> 00:52:14,005
People knew he was special,

1084
00:52:14,089 --> 00:52:16,883
and you wanted to help him
do the next version of him.

1085
00:52:16,967 --> 00:52:20,554
And I think the one real
studio-film experience he had,

1086
00:52:20,637 --> 00:52:24,057
where the studio kinda tells you
what you can and can't do,

1087
00:52:24,683 --> 00:52:27,102
if you're an artist, it's crushing.

1088
00:52:28,979 --> 00:52:31,898
And I think he thought,
"Great, let's party."

1089
00:52:31,982 --> 00:52:34,901
You're gonna get
the Robert Downey movie you deserve.

1090
00:52:36,153 --> 00:52:38,530
[Downey Sr.] Some guy said,
"If you keep talking like this,

1091
00:52:38,613 --> 00:52:39,823
we're gonna fire you,

1092
00:52:39,906 --> 00:52:42,826
and you're not gonna get final cut
no matter what happens."

1093
00:52:42,909 --> 00:52:45,829
I said, "Okay, that's fine by me,

1094
00:52:45,912 --> 00:52:48,707
just as long as I get
final cut on the cocaine."

1095
00:52:50,041 --> 00:52:52,586
And that was almost
the end of me out there.

1096
00:52:52,669 --> 00:52:53,669
[song fades]

1097
00:52:53,712 --> 00:52:57,465
- You did not give a mad fuck, did you?
- No.

1098
00:52:58,133 --> 00:53:01,094
How would you describe
that period of time?

1099
00:53:01,178 --> 00:53:04,973
[Downey Sr.] <i>Fifteen years
of total fucking insanity.</i>

1100
00:53:05,056 --> 00:53:06,391
Boy, man.

1101
00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:12,189
<i>You know, I think we would be remiss
to not discuss its effect on me.</i>

1102
00:53:12,272 --> 00:53:15,984
Yeah, boy, I could sure love
to miss that discussion.

1103
00:53:16,067 --> 00:53:17,569
[Downey Jr. chuckling]

1104
00:53:17,652 --> 00:53:19,779
["Don't Need a Gun" by Billy Idol playing]

1105
00:53:22,282 --> 00:53:24,117
[Downey Jr.] When I did <i>Less Than Zero,</i>

1106
00:53:24,201 --> 00:53:26,870
that was right around the time
that I began.

1107
00:53:28,496 --> 00:53:30,415
It was obviously not

1108
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,460
autobiographical for me,

1109
00:53:33,543 --> 00:53:38,215
but certainly what was similar
was young folks, drugs, the '80s.

1110
00:53:38,757 --> 00:53:41,676
[producer] When you heard he was doing
that film, what was that like?

1111
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,428
[Downey Sr.] He was funny. He said,

1112
00:53:43,511 --> 00:53:46,389
"I got a part
in a legitimate film." [laughs]

1113
00:53:47,557 --> 00:53:50,977
You can't stay here. Live your life
anywhere you want but not here.

1114
00:53:51,561 --> 00:53:55,315
- I'm your son. I'm sleeping here.
- Get out. I'll call the police.

1115
00:53:56,274 --> 00:53:59,569
[Downey Sr.] But I loved it.
It's a tough one, but it's great.

1116
00:53:59,653 --> 00:54:02,333
- It was just a wild era.
- ["Modern People" by Roger Neill playing]

1117
00:54:02,405 --> 00:54:05,367
[Downey Jr.] That whole world
gets tied in with creativity.

1118
00:54:06,243 --> 00:54:10,205
We were all altering
our consciousness with substances.

1119
00:54:10,830 --> 00:54:15,210
I was just kinda playing a game
of just wanting to self-soothe

1120
00:54:15,293 --> 00:54:17,087
or just stay loaded

1121
00:54:17,170 --> 00:54:20,840
rather than deal with the fact that things
had gone off the tracks a little bit.

1122
00:54:21,967 --> 00:54:25,720
And, honestly, more than anything,
I look back and go,

1123
00:54:26,304 --> 00:54:27,347
"It's shocking

1124
00:54:27,847 --> 00:54:30,475
that a single movie came out finished."

1125
00:54:31,059 --> 00:54:33,311
But that didn't stop we Downeys.

1126
00:54:33,395 --> 00:54:35,438
["<i>Pound</i> Score" by Charley Cuva playing]

1127
00:54:36,731 --> 00:54:38,491
[man] Hey, Reed!
Will you stop with the food?

1128
00:54:38,566 --> 00:54:40,610
Rent is due. We gotta go to work. Come on.

1129
00:54:41,319 --> 00:54:44,030
- Work before we eat, all right? Come on.
- [Reed] Okay. All right!

1130
00:54:44,114 --> 00:54:46,741
- I just made that salad!
- Enough with the salads!

1131
00:54:47,492 --> 00:54:50,120
[Downey Sr.] The movie
wouldn't have gotten out without him.

1132
00:54:50,203 --> 00:54:51,037
That's reality.

1133
00:54:51,121 --> 00:54:53,540
[interviewer] Yeah. I mean,
he's become a big movie star.

1134
00:54:53,623 --> 00:54:56,063
- [Downey Sr.] Yeah.
- [interviewer] He still takes direction?

1135
00:54:56,459 --> 00:54:58,837
Well, he loves fooling around.
Yeah, he does.

1136
00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:59,754
Whoo!

1137
00:54:59,838 --> 00:55:00,880
Whoo!

1138
00:55:00,964 --> 00:55:03,300
- Gotta go, Ma.
- Okay, honey. Do what you have to do.

1139
00:55:03,383 --> 00:55:05,611
[interviewer] There was certainly
a sense of... of family,

1140
00:55:05,635 --> 00:55:08,888
that people are having fun,
and it's... it really translates.

1141
00:55:08,972 --> 00:55:10,652
[Downey Sr.] Good, I'm glad 'cause it was,

1142
00:55:10,724 --> 00:55:14,394
and it was a very good period of my life
'cause I met Laura.

1143
00:55:15,145 --> 00:55:18,064
I am hip to your shit, shithead.

1144
00:55:18,148 --> 00:55:21,359
I think Sr. was afraid
I would be a terrible actress,

1145
00:55:21,443 --> 00:55:25,905
so he thought, "Throw an accent on,
and maybe they won't notice."

1146
00:55:25,989 --> 00:55:27,925
- [Downey Sr.] That's not true.
- [Laura laughing]

1147
00:55:27,949 --> 00:55:30,201
[Downey Jr.] Thank God for Laura Ernst.

1148
00:55:30,285 --> 00:55:33,246
Yeah, I agree.

1149
00:55:33,330 --> 00:55:39,210
She showed up, and I feel like it was
just the kind of energy you needed

1150
00:55:39,294 --> 00:55:41,171
<i>at that point in your life.</i>

1151
00:55:41,254 --> 00:55:42,380
Mm-hmm.

1152
00:55:42,464 --> 00:55:45,884
And it seemed like you just got healthier

1153
00:55:45,967 --> 00:55:50,221
and started kinda taking care of yourself

1154
00:55:50,305 --> 00:55:55,268
and settling into and away from
that whole drug-culture life

1155
00:55:55,352 --> 00:55:56,936
that we all got stuck in.

1156
00:55:57,020 --> 00:55:58,563
- Hi, Dad.
- Hi.

1157
00:55:58,646 --> 00:56:01,983
And I remember it
very, very, very profoundly.

1158
00:56:03,193 --> 00:56:06,696
[Downey Sr.] A lot of us did things
and thought it would be hypocritical

1159
00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:10,325
to not have our kids participate
in marijuana and stuff like that.

1160
00:56:10,408 --> 00:56:12,728
So we thought it was cute
to let 'em smoke it and all that.

1161
00:56:12,786 --> 00:56:15,497
It was an idiot move on our parts,
a lot of us,

1162
00:56:15,580 --> 00:56:17,457
to share that with our children.

1163
00:56:17,540 --> 00:56:19,125
I'm just happy he's here.

1164
00:56:19,209 --> 00:56:21,211
- [Downey Jr. chuckling]
- That's all. [kissing]

1165
00:56:21,711 --> 00:56:23,711
[interviewer] Ever worried
he wasn't gonna be here?

1166
00:56:23,755 --> 00:56:24,755
Many times.

1167
00:56:25,215 --> 00:56:27,526
[Downey Jr.] Even though
it took me another 20 years to get

1168
00:56:27,550 --> 00:56:29,010
my own shit together,

1169
00:56:29,094 --> 00:56:33,139
you and Laura became
this very, very, very stable force for me.

1170
00:56:33,973 --> 00:56:36,726
What is your memory
of those years with Laura?

1171
00:56:37,310 --> 00:56:40,939
A lot because, uh, sh... she got sick.

1172
00:56:41,940 --> 00:56:45,735
And were you with her when she got
the diagnosis for Lou Gehrig's?

1173
00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:47,320
[Downey Sr.] <i>Yeah.</i>

1174
00:56:47,404 --> 00:56:51,366
How does one process that
with your... with your life partner?

1175
00:56:51,449 --> 00:56:53,701
It was... it was time to grow up,

1176
00:56:54,911 --> 00:56:57,330
to think of somebody else first.

1177
00:56:58,665 --> 00:57:01,793
[Arkin] We spent some time
with him and his wife, Laura.

1178
00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:05,922
He was as loving and tender

1179
00:57:06,423 --> 00:57:09,759
with her as any human being
I've ever seen.

1180
00:57:09,843 --> 00:57:11,219
It was a lesson

1181
00:57:11,803 --> 00:57:15,265
in how to deal with
somebody who's... who's passing.

1182
00:57:16,099 --> 00:57:19,602
I sometimes think of...

1183
00:57:19,686 --> 00:57:21,938
["Fourth of July"
by Nathan Halpern playing]

1184
00:57:26,651 --> 00:57:32,740
...any of the stuff we feel guilty about
or what we did in past relationships,

1185
00:57:32,824 --> 00:57:37,412
and then to be able to have
an opportunity to, um,

1186
00:57:38,621 --> 00:57:43,418
make that living amends
so fully to... to... to a partner

1187
00:57:44,544 --> 00:57:48,548
and to completely commit
to being by their side

1188
00:57:48,631 --> 00:57:51,384
through every step
of a devastating illness.

1189
00:57:52,135 --> 00:57:54,471
And, uh, it's crazy. You really showed up.

1190
00:57:55,555 --> 00:57:56,806
I hope so.

1191
00:57:58,933 --> 00:58:01,519
[computer clicking]

1192
00:58:01,603 --> 00:58:03,938
[computer voice] <i>What I have
is not contagious.</i>

1193
00:58:04,022 --> 00:58:05,022
What is it?

1194
00:58:05,398 --> 00:58:06,316
[computer clicks]

1195
00:58:06,399 --> 00:58:10,028
[computer voice] <i>ALS,
amyotrophic lateral sclerosis,</i>

1196
00:58:10,111 --> 00:58:12,363
<i>also known as Lou Gehrig's disease.</i>

1197
00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:15,366
I love you.

1198
00:58:16,326 --> 00:58:19,037
Just another one of God's little victims.

1199
00:58:19,746 --> 00:58:21,039
Like me.

1200
00:58:21,539 --> 00:58:24,209
[Downey Jr.] Very much like
when Chaplin lost a kid,

1201
00:58:24,751 --> 00:58:28,671
and then the next movie he made
strangely was titled <i>The Kid</i>,

1202
00:58:28,755 --> 00:58:33,134
<i>and it was a way for him to process
the grief in his personal life.</i>

1203
00:58:33,218 --> 00:58:35,678
That's exactly what you did in <i>Hugo Pool.</i>

1204
00:58:35,762 --> 00:58:37,764
["Forever Young (Instrumental)" playing]

1205
00:58:37,847 --> 00:58:39,182
You're gonna beat this.

1206
00:58:39,807 --> 00:58:41,935
[computer voice] <i>I like the way you think.</i>

1207
00:58:43,853 --> 00:58:46,523
[Downey Jr.] Your movie
was representing everything

1208
00:58:46,606 --> 00:58:48,733
from Laura's illness

1209
00:58:48,816 --> 00:58:52,362
to my addiction to your turnaround.

1210
00:58:52,445 --> 00:58:56,616
Since you're gonna outlive me,
will you forgive me for all the drugs

1211
00:58:56,699 --> 00:58:59,619
and bad examples that I'm leaving you?

1212
00:58:59,702 --> 00:59:02,580
[Downey Sr.] It's a collage of pain.

1213
00:59:03,790 --> 00:59:09,254
And so you... you try
and go through it the best you can.

1214
00:59:14,467 --> 00:59:16,469
- [song continues]
- [no audible dialogue]

1215
00:59:28,773 --> 00:59:33,903
When you lost her, you stayed clean,
and I was still out there,

1216
00:59:33,987 --> 00:59:36,823
and you were just telling me
to stay on the planet and stay vertical

1217
00:59:36,906 --> 00:59:38,992
and not give up and all that stuff.

1218
00:59:39,617 --> 00:59:42,579
<i>You weren't exactly some karma-free man.</i>

1219
00:59:42,662 --> 00:59:46,833
Let me not fucking... You know.
Let's not stretch the truth here.

1220
00:59:46,916 --> 00:59:52,088
But that was kind of
a super significant thing.

1221
00:59:52,171 --> 00:59:54,591
Well, it's nice to hear it that way.

1222
00:59:55,258 --> 00:59:57,760
<i>You deserved it
with what you went through.</i>

1223
00:59:59,262 --> 01:00:00,262
Yeah.

1224
01:00:05,518 --> 01:00:09,188
All right. That's worthy
of an evening's nonsense.

1225
01:00:09,272 --> 01:00:10,565
[Downey Jr. laughing]

1226
01:00:10,648 --> 01:00:12,817
["What Is Life"
by George Harrison playing]

1227
01:00:14,611 --> 01:00:17,989
[Downey Sr.] After the bad films
that I directed out in California,

1228
01:00:18,489 --> 01:00:21,117
friends of mine would say,
"Get out of LA now."

1229
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,161
Did I tell him to get out of LA?

1230
01:00:23,661 --> 01:00:26,831
But it didn't mean he couldn't visit.
Now he doesn't even come and visit.

1231
01:00:26,914 --> 01:00:28,207
He won't get on a plane.

1232
01:00:28,291 --> 01:00:29,459
<i>♪ What I feel ♪</i>

1233
01:00:31,502 --> 01:00:33,379
<i>♪ I can't say... ♪</i>

1234
01:00:35,465 --> 01:00:37,884
[Lear] Between New York and LA,

1235
01:00:37,967 --> 01:00:40,094
there's no question he should be... [laughs]

1236
01:00:40,178 --> 01:00:41,346
...in New York.

1237
01:00:41,429 --> 01:00:43,097
I think he's happier for being out of LA.

1238
01:00:43,181 --> 01:00:45,391
I think everybody's happier
when they get out of LA.

1239
01:00:45,475 --> 01:00:48,019
The land of broken dreams.

1240
01:00:49,312 --> 01:00:52,982
[Lear] And it may be that New York
is sufficiently complicated

1241
01:00:53,066 --> 01:00:57,528
for somebody to be their unique person.

1242
01:00:58,613 --> 01:01:01,157
He was born, you could say,
to be in New York.

1243
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,577
<i>♪ ...without your love ♪</i>

1244
01:01:04,661 --> 01:01:08,289
<i>♪ Tell me who am I ♪</i>

1245
01:01:08,373 --> 01:01:11,876
<i>♪ Without you ♪</i>

1246
01:01:11,959 --> 01:01:14,087
<i>♪ By my side ♪</i>

1247
01:01:15,213 --> 01:01:16,213
[song ends]

1248
01:01:16,631 --> 01:01:19,592
[Downey Jr., Exton, and Avri singing]
<i>♪ Happy birthday to you ♪</i>

1249
01:01:19,676 --> 01:01:20,676
[Downey Sr.] Aw.

1250
01:01:20,718 --> 01:01:23,763
<i>♪ Happy birthday to you ♪</i>

1251
01:01:23,846 --> 01:01:25,098
We'll call him Bob Sr.

1252
01:01:25,181 --> 01:01:30,353
<i>♪ Happy birthday, Bob Sr. ♪</i>

1253
01:01:30,853 --> 01:01:36,025
<i>♪ Happy birthday to you ♪</i>

1254
01:01:36,609 --> 01:01:38,444
Exton, how's school?

1255
01:01:38,528 --> 01:01:39,654
It's good.

1256
01:01:39,737 --> 01:01:42,365
- Oh. Oh! He's taking a sip of my coffee.
- [Susan] Hey, guys.

1257
01:01:42,448 --> 01:01:43,449
Hi, Susan.

1258
01:01:43,533 --> 01:01:45,284
<i>Hi. Happy birthday.</i>

1259
01:01:45,368 --> 01:01:46,661
Thank you.

1260
01:01:46,744 --> 01:01:49,038
Are you properly celebrating, Sr.?

1261
01:01:49,122 --> 01:01:52,625
He is. He's got some friends
and close associates over.

1262
01:01:52,709 --> 01:01:53,751
They're having a ball.

1263
01:01:53,835 --> 01:01:57,213
We might wanna get
a couple of women in this film also.

1264
01:01:57,296 --> 01:01:58,296
Yes.

1265
01:01:58,756 --> 01:02:01,676
If Susan would do it,
she could play your wife.

1266
01:02:02,176 --> 01:02:05,888
I'm pretty serious about giving
as many people an opportunity

1267
01:02:05,972 --> 01:02:07,432
in that casting as I can.

1268
01:02:07,515 --> 01:02:09,195
- [Susan scoffs, chuckles]
- But we'll see.

1269
01:02:09,267 --> 01:02:12,103
I mean, we can always come back
around to the house favorite, yeah.

1270
01:02:12,186 --> 01:02:16,899
By the way,
every day I think about your dad.

1271
01:02:16,983 --> 01:02:18,609
Thank you. Me too.

1272
01:02:19,736 --> 01:02:20,736
Me too.

1273
01:02:22,196 --> 01:02:25,616
Yeah, it was a tricky first Father's Day
without a father.

1274
01:02:27,744 --> 01:02:29,620
Boy, was he funny too.

1275
01:02:29,704 --> 01:02:30,704
Yeah.

1276
01:02:31,164 --> 01:02:34,542
You look good, Pops.
I'm glad there's some levity there,

1277
01:02:34,625 --> 01:02:37,545
and you're surrounded
by good people, and...

1278
01:02:37,628 --> 01:02:39,130
I don't know any of them.

1279
01:02:39,213 --> 01:02:40,757
[Susan and Downey Jr. laughing]

1280
01:02:42,049 --> 01:02:46,220
<i>Now, say we wind up
out in the Hamptons again together.</i>

1281
01:02:46,304 --> 01:02:48,347
Are there any scenes to be shot

1282
01:02:48,431 --> 01:02:51,225
<i>or images of stuff you want</i>

1283
01:02:51,309 --> 01:02:54,353
that you're not seeing
in the project right now?

1284
01:02:54,437 --> 01:02:56,230
That German folk song.

1285
01:02:56,314 --> 01:02:57,607
<i>I knew you were gonna say that,</i>

1286
01:02:57,690 --> 01:03:01,486
so I'm gonna have to get
an accompanist to learn that song,

1287
01:03:02,069 --> 01:03:04,781
and we're gonna have to figure out
where to shoot that.

1288
01:03:04,864 --> 01:03:06,407
- [Hayes] <i>Hello?</i>
- Hey, it's me.

1289
01:03:06,491 --> 01:03:08,493
[security gate beeps, buzzes]

1290
01:03:12,914 --> 01:03:13,914
[knocking on door]

1291
01:03:20,129 --> 01:03:21,547
[Downey Jr.] Pop, this is for you.

1292
01:03:21,631 --> 01:03:23,883
[playing "Fischerweise" by Schubert]

1293
01:03:34,977 --> 01:03:36,354
[singing in German]

1294
01:03:36,437 --> 01:03:37,855
[ringing bell]

1295
01:03:37,939 --> 01:03:40,733
Just, let's try it from the top again.
It's just coming a little...

1296
01:03:40,817 --> 01:03:42,819
[playing "Fischerweise" again]

1297
01:03:47,865 --> 01:03:49,700
[singing in German]

1298
01:04:05,466 --> 01:04:08,970
When I was 15,
I entered the Kiwanis solo festivals,

1299
01:04:09,053 --> 01:04:10,972
singing Schubert's "Fischerweise,"

1300
01:04:11,055 --> 01:04:15,685
and it was the first time that Pop
ever noticed something I was doing,

1301
01:04:15,768 --> 01:04:18,396
outside of his movies, had some merit.

1302
01:04:18,479 --> 01:04:21,566
Or I think I got an honorable mention.

1303
01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:26,863
And, uh... and then it's been something
I've returned to several times.

1304
01:04:26,946 --> 01:04:28,823
And tell us what his reaction was.

1305
01:04:29,615 --> 01:04:31,033
[exhales] He seemed pleased.

1306
01:04:31,117 --> 01:04:32,201
- Yeah?
- Yeah.

1307
01:04:32,285 --> 01:04:34,704
And how did that
change your life going forward?

1308
01:04:35,413 --> 01:04:37,331
[continues "Fischerweise" on piano]

1309
01:04:37,415 --> 01:04:39,292
[singing in German]

1310
01:04:42,962 --> 01:04:45,423
[Downey Jr.] There's something
nostalgic about it.

1311
01:04:45,506 --> 01:04:47,675
There's something beautiful
about the song.

1312
01:04:48,384 --> 01:04:52,096
And then there's
my dad's oddball point of view

1313
01:04:52,179 --> 01:04:55,600
of all the things
he could have pulled out or remembered

1314
01:04:55,683 --> 01:04:57,268
that he would want me to repeat

1315
01:04:57,894 --> 01:04:59,687
40 years later.

1316
01:04:59,770 --> 01:05:02,940
[Downey Sr.] <i>Uh, it will really help
the film tremendously</i>

1317
01:05:03,566 --> 01:05:07,486
<i>when, suddenly,
you just come out from behind a tree...</i>

1318
01:05:08,321 --> 01:05:10,323
<i>- </i>[Downey Jr.] <i>Yes.
- ...and sing this thing.</i>

1319
01:05:10,865 --> 01:05:12,992
[singing in German]

1320
01:05:13,075 --> 01:05:15,077
[piano and singing continue on monitor]

1321
01:05:27,757 --> 01:05:29,884
[Downey Jr. and Hayes laughing on monitor]

1322
01:05:30,551 --> 01:05:31,886
[Hayes] <i>Let's do it again.</i>

1323
01:05:31,969 --> 01:05:33,930
[starts playing "Fischerweise" again]

1324
01:05:35,431 --> 01:05:36,432
[singing in German]

1325
01:05:38,392 --> 01:05:40,853
[piano melody morphs
into "My Life" by Billy Joel]

1326
01:05:46,567 --> 01:05:47,610
[snickers]

1327
01:05:47,693 --> 01:05:49,278
<i>♪ ...my life ♪</i>

1328
01:05:51,197 --> 01:05:52,031
<i>♪ Go... ♪</i>

1329
01:05:52,114 --> 01:05:55,451
- [Hayes laughing] Here we go.
<i>- </i>[Downey Jr.] I'm gonna nail it this time.

1330
01:05:55,534 --> 01:05:59,038
[Downey Sr.] It all looks
sweetly narcissistic.

1331
01:05:59,622 --> 01:06:02,083
[producer] Do you see
a place for this in our cut?

1332
01:06:02,166 --> 01:06:03,417
Absolutely. [chuckles]

1333
01:06:04,335 --> 01:06:06,337
[playing slide whistle]

1334
01:06:06,420 --> 01:06:08,547
[Downey Jr. and Hayes laughing on monitor]

1335
01:06:10,174 --> 01:06:13,469
- Can you do that a little more?
- [producer] Like, repeat it?

1336
01:06:13,552 --> 01:06:14,595
[Downey Sr. laughing]

1337
01:06:15,805 --> 01:06:17,473
No, I'm just being happy.

1338
01:06:18,057 --> 01:06:19,183
[producer] Let me try.

1339
01:06:19,767 --> 01:06:22,728
[Rogers] He completely focused
on the edit.

1340
01:06:22,812 --> 01:06:24,981
He sat up for hours and hours,

1341
01:06:25,064 --> 01:06:27,525
which was something
he hadn't done in a long time.

1342
01:06:28,025 --> 01:06:31,654
It's just a big source of joy for him.
You know, it really is.

1343
01:06:31,737 --> 01:06:33,739
It's... it's everything for him.

1344
01:06:34,448 --> 01:06:37,660
- [producer] That's pretty good, dude.
- I just wanna see it again.

1345
01:06:38,244 --> 01:06:40,287
- [producer] Let's see.
- [playing slide whistle]

1346
01:06:40,371 --> 01:06:44,250
Have you changed as a filmmaker,
or do you still make stuff the same way?

1347
01:06:44,333 --> 01:06:46,585
That's a good question.
I really don't know.

1348
01:06:47,086 --> 01:06:48,814
[producer] What was
the last film you worked on?

1349
01:06:48,838 --> 01:06:51,257
[Downey Sr.] It was a documentary
down in Philadelphia

1350
01:06:51,340 --> 01:06:53,050
that I'm very fond of.

1351
01:06:53,592 --> 01:06:57,263
It's about a park
called Rittenhouse Square.

1352
01:06:58,305 --> 01:07:01,183
After I sat in the park
and saw all the weird characters,

1353
01:07:01,267 --> 01:07:02,476
I said, "I'm in."

1354
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:03,769
[classical music playing]

1355
01:07:03,853 --> 01:07:08,607
[Downey Sr.] And we spent a year in there
to get the different seasons,

1356
01:07:08,691 --> 01:07:10,234
just studying people.

1357
01:07:11,861 --> 01:07:13,696
The one thing we learned was

1358
01:07:14,864 --> 01:07:17,575
trust anything
'cause anything will happen.

1359
01:07:17,658 --> 01:07:21,871
And sure enough, the first day,
we ran into a ten-year-old violinist,

1360
01:07:21,954 --> 01:07:24,498
who was great,
and she became the main focus

1361
01:07:24,582 --> 01:07:26,417
of the whole year in the park.

1362
01:07:26,500 --> 01:07:28,502
[playing classical music]

1363
01:07:41,390 --> 01:07:45,227
[producer] How did making the documentary
compare to, like, your other films?

1364
01:07:45,311 --> 01:07:47,229
Well, I like... as I said earlier,

1365
01:07:47,313 --> 01:07:49,815
I like the idea you don't know
what's gonna happen.

1366
01:07:51,776 --> 01:07:54,195
["The Room Upstairs"
by Stephen Edwards playing]

1367
01:08:20,846 --> 01:08:25,351
[Susan] Sr., you know,
he's battling a horrible, horrible disease

1368
01:08:25,434 --> 01:08:27,770
that I had to see my dad go through.

1369
01:08:27,853 --> 01:08:29,563
And so at this point,

1370
01:08:29,647 --> 01:08:32,108
it's all just love
of the time we have left.

1371
01:08:33,567 --> 01:08:38,155
And I don't know if Sr. has come to terms
with some of his behavior from back then

1372
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:39,865
or how it relates to Robert.

1373
01:08:40,449 --> 01:08:44,578
But what I know now is, you know,
this is somebody who loves his kid.

1374
01:08:47,081 --> 01:08:50,543
[Downey Jr.] It's
the quintessential <i>Sullivan's Travels.</i>

1375
01:08:51,752 --> 01:08:55,256
Setting out to do
something real and important,

1376
01:08:56,173 --> 01:08:58,175
and what if what we'd been doing all along

1377
01:08:58,259 --> 01:09:00,594
was every bit as important
as it needed to be?

1378
01:09:01,554 --> 01:09:05,057
For me, this feels like
trying to close the circle

1379
01:09:05,141 --> 01:09:08,561
on that whole patriarchal thing.

1380
01:09:09,603 --> 01:09:11,272
[song continues]

1381
01:09:11,355 --> 01:09:14,650
[Downey Jr.] And making peace with all the

1382
01:09:15,734 --> 01:09:18,779
upside and downside of it
and sideways-ness of it.

1383
01:09:18,863 --> 01:09:22,116
And then saying,
"Okay, you're a grown man now."

1384
01:09:23,576 --> 01:09:25,995
[no audible dialogue]

1385
01:09:32,334 --> 01:09:33,335
[song ends]

1386
01:09:33,919 --> 01:09:36,463
<i>Lean and mean, Bob. Lean and mean.</i>

1387
01:09:36,547 --> 01:09:39,175
[producer] That's a whole new pass, man.

1388
01:09:40,509 --> 01:09:41,509
[producer sighs]

1389
01:09:41,927 --> 01:09:44,054
[laughing]

1390
01:09:48,934 --> 01:09:52,104
Well, you don't have to worry
about when you're coming back now.

1391
01:09:52,188 --> 01:09:54,481
It's whenever it happens, it happens.

1392
01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:58,444
Thanks for doing this. It's big deal.

1393
01:10:03,324 --> 01:10:05,326
Great. You did some great work.

1394
01:10:07,786 --> 01:10:08,662
[producer] Yeah.

1395
01:10:08,746 --> 01:10:12,082
<i>Looking back... </i>[indistinct]
<i>...he says it's been a great experience.</i>

1396
01:10:12,166 --> 01:10:15,794
<i>His definition of a producer
is a guy who gets stuff done.</i>

1397
01:10:19,256 --> 01:10:23,302
["Theme from <i>A Summer Place</i>
(Instrumental)" by Percy Faith playing]

1398
01:10:24,053 --> 01:10:26,055
[indistinct chatter]

1399
01:10:41,403 --> 01:10:42,403
[indistinct]

1400
01:10:51,163 --> 01:10:52,831
Yep, yep, yep.

1401
01:10:53,332 --> 01:10:56,752
Heading the 90 miles in town. He's pumped.

1402
01:10:56,835 --> 01:10:58,671
This is year three

1403
01:10:59,463 --> 01:11:01,924
of shooting the Daddy doc.

1404
01:11:02,007 --> 01:11:04,134
I'm excited to see Grandpa.

1405
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,471
["On the Road to Find Out"
by Cat Stevens playing]

1406
01:11:26,699 --> 01:11:29,535
<i>♪ Well, I left my happy home ♪</i>

1407
01:11:29,618 --> 01:11:31,996
<i>♪ To see what I could find out ♪</i>

1408
01:11:38,210 --> 01:11:40,754
<i>♪ I left my folk and friends ♪</i>

1409
01:11:40,838 --> 01:11:43,632
<i>♪ With the aim to clear my mind out</i>...<i> ♪</i>

1410
01:11:45,968 --> 01:11:47,219
[exhales]

1411
01:11:49,930 --> 01:11:54,977
The plan for today, we're gonna
keep shooting the <i>"Sr."</i> documentary.

1412
01:11:55,060 --> 01:12:01,567
The main reason I wanted to be here
was because I wanted to see Grandpa.

1413
01:12:02,067 --> 01:12:07,573
So, I wanted to see him

1414
01:12:07,656 --> 01:12:11,035
so we could, sort of, have memories.

1415
01:12:13,787 --> 01:12:18,709
And... so when he passes, I can say

1416
01:12:19,835 --> 01:12:21,670
I got to spend some time with him.

1417
01:12:21,754 --> 01:12:24,006
<i>♪ Na, na, na ♪</i>

1418
01:12:24,590 --> 01:12:26,508
<i>♪ Na, na, na ♪</i>

1419
01:12:27,343 --> 01:12:29,720
<i>♪ Na, na, na ♪</i>

1420
01:12:29,803 --> 01:12:32,264
<i>♪ Well, in the end I'll know ♪</i>

1421
01:12:32,890 --> 01:12:35,059
<i>♪ But on the way I wonder ♪</i>

1422
01:12:35,809 --> 01:12:38,020
<i>♪ Na, na, na ♪</i>

1423
01:12:38,604 --> 01:12:40,647
<i>♪ Na, na, na ♪</i>

1424
01:12:41,273 --> 01:12:43,317
<i>♪ Through descending snow... ♪</i>

1425
01:12:43,901 --> 01:12:46,987
[Downey Jr.] Hi, thank you, sir.
We're here for Downey. Thank you.

1426
01:12:47,071 --> 01:12:49,448
<i>♪ Na, na, na ♪</i>

1427
01:12:49,531 --> 01:12:51,950
<i>♪ Na, na, na ♪</i>

1428
01:12:52,451 --> 01:12:57,122
<i>♪ I listen to the wind come howl
Telling me I have to hurry ♪</i>

1429
01:12:57,998 --> 01:13:00,167
<i>♪ I listen to the robin's song ♪</i>

1430
01:13:00,250 --> 01:13:03,170
<i>♪ Saying not to worry ♪</i>

1431
01:13:03,962 --> 01:13:06,632
<i>♪ Ah-ooh ♪</i>

1432
01:13:06,715 --> 01:13:09,051
<i>♪ So on and on I go ♪</i>

1433
01:13:09,885 --> 01:13:12,054
<i>♪ The seconds tick the time out... ♪</i>

1434
01:13:12,137 --> 01:13:13,138
Hi, Dada.

1435
01:13:14,139 --> 01:13:19,770
Whenever, uh, you'd rather
we're not rolling, just let us know.

1436
01:13:19,853 --> 01:13:22,981
Otherwise, we're in your face
all day, all the time.

1437
01:13:23,690 --> 01:13:24,817
[Downey Jr. chuckling]

1438
01:13:28,904 --> 01:13:30,744
[producer] It's good
to see you in person, man.

1439
01:13:31,281 --> 01:13:32,699
Is it... is it warm out?

1440
01:13:33,534 --> 01:13:35,244
[producer] Cold. Cold and rainy today.

1441
01:13:35,327 --> 01:13:37,955
Ooh, well, that's
good... good for photography.

1442
01:13:38,872 --> 01:13:40,624
[Downey Jr.] Exy, when you're ready.

1443
01:13:40,707 --> 01:13:41,583
[song fades out]

1444
01:13:41,667 --> 01:13:43,544
[Downey Jr.] We're gonna
give you three takes

1445
01:13:43,627 --> 01:13:45,796
at asking him the question, all right?

1446
01:13:45,879 --> 01:13:48,715
So you'll hit... come here,
hit him with the line.

1447
01:13:50,467 --> 01:13:52,428
- Hey, Exy.
- Hi.

1448
01:13:52,511 --> 01:13:54,930
Okay, he's ready. In three, two, one, go.

1449
01:13:55,013 --> 01:13:56,140
Hey, Sr.

1450
01:13:56,223 --> 01:13:57,975
Have any hair on your balls?

1451
01:13:58,058 --> 01:13:59,601
[Downey Jr. suppressing laugh]

1452
01:14:00,102 --> 01:14:01,687
Would you repeat that question?

1453
01:14:02,729 --> 01:14:04,189
Have any hair on your balls?

1454
01:14:04,273 --> 01:14:05,273
Perfect.

1455
01:14:05,649 --> 01:14:08,819
[Downey Jr. laughs] Now, give him
the answer line one time, Dad.

1456
01:14:08,902 --> 01:14:12,364
Exy, hit him again, and then you do
Larry Wolf's "I'm afraid to look."

1457
01:14:13,198 --> 01:14:15,868
[Exton] Hey, Sr.
Have any hair on your balls?

1458
01:14:16,410 --> 01:14:17,411
Do I what?

1459
01:14:17,911 --> 01:14:19,830
[Downey Jr. laughing]

1460
01:14:20,831 --> 01:14:24,835
He refuses to do his own answer.

1461
01:14:26,170 --> 01:14:27,463
[Downey Jr. groaning in delight]

1462
01:14:27,546 --> 01:14:30,048
- All right, you are free.
- That was very fun.

1463
01:14:30,132 --> 01:14:31,758
[Downey Jr.] Exy's having a ball, dude.

1464
01:14:31,842 --> 01:14:33,522
This is, like,
the best trip he's ever had.

1465
01:14:33,594 --> 01:14:36,346
[Exton] It's definitely
up in, like, the top ten.

1466
01:14:36,430 --> 01:14:38,223
[Downey Jr. and Sr. laughing]

1467
01:14:41,435 --> 01:14:43,020
[kissing]

1468
01:14:43,645 --> 01:14:44,730
You need anything?

1469
01:14:46,482 --> 01:14:47,399
Where are we?

1470
01:14:47,483 --> 01:14:48,483
[Downey Jr. laughing]

1471
01:14:52,029 --> 01:14:55,782
This is the last day, uh,
that I'm likely to see him for a while,

1472
01:14:55,866 --> 01:14:59,161
so what's my move for him, for me,
just to kinda...

1473
01:14:59,661 --> 01:15:01,872
You know, it's weird
because I know that I'm...

1474
01:15:04,291 --> 01:15:06,293
uh, capturing it.

1475
01:15:06,376 --> 01:15:09,379
[therapist] <i>Oddly, it's sort of like
what your family does.</i>

1476
01:15:09,463 --> 01:15:12,007
<i>You guys make art of your lives.</i>

1477
01:15:12,090 --> 01:15:15,344
It's weird. It's natural.
Like, it brings me back where it's like,

1478
01:15:15,427 --> 01:15:18,305
whatever's unfolding, funny or tragic,

1479
01:15:18,388 --> 01:15:21,391
it's happening
with a 16-millimeter camera going,

1480
01:15:21,892 --> 01:15:23,560
and, uh, we can reflect on it...

1481
01:15:23,644 --> 01:15:25,604
[chuckling] ...40 years from now...

1482
01:15:25,687 --> 01:15:26,522
[therapist] <i>Yeah.</i>

1483
01:15:26,605 --> 01:15:28,205
...when somehow or other it makes sense.

1484
01:15:29,399 --> 01:15:32,778
But then there's some part of me
that feels like I'll... [sniffling]

1485
01:15:37,658 --> 01:15:38,784
I'll miss something.

1486
01:15:39,284 --> 01:15:41,036
[therapist] <i>Yeah, yeah.</i>

1487
01:15:41,787 --> 01:15:42,621
<i>Yeah.</i>

1488
01:15:42,704 --> 01:15:45,666
You know, just 'cause the window's
closing a bit, it seems.

1489
01:15:45,749 --> 01:15:47,469
["Fourth of July"
by Nathan Halpern playing]

1490
01:15:47,501 --> 01:15:52,381
[therapist] <i>Is there anything
that you feel like you need to process</i>

1491
01:15:52,464 --> 01:15:57,302
<i>in relation to the possibility
of not seeing him again?</i>

1492
01:15:58,470 --> 01:16:00,639
I just don't know, to be honest.

1493
01:16:00,722 --> 01:16:01,922
- [therapist] <i>Yeah.</i>
- You know?

1494
01:16:01,974 --> 01:16:04,393
Um, it's kinda disorienting,

1495
01:16:04,935 --> 01:16:06,353
but, uh... [sighs]

1496
01:16:06,436 --> 01:16:08,438
...dude, it's a lot.

1497
01:16:09,022 --> 01:16:11,275
[therapist] <i>It is a lot, man. It's a lot.</i>

1498
01:16:11,358 --> 01:16:13,819
[sighs] Well, the nice thing is

1499
01:16:14,319 --> 01:16:20,492
I haven't had this appreciative
an experience of New York in ages.

1500
01:16:22,077 --> 01:16:25,080
And getting to see it
through Exton's eyes,

1501
01:16:25,664 --> 01:16:27,332
the third-generation POV,

1502
01:16:27,416 --> 01:16:29,376
is pretty cool, you know?

1503
01:16:29,459 --> 01:16:31,837
[therapist] <i>Yeah,
but I can't help but also notice</i>

1504
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,672
<i>the difference between</i>

1505
01:16:34,506 --> 01:16:38,176
<i>the reliability of his support system,
you know?</i>

1506
01:16:38,260 --> 01:16:41,763
<i>Your dad rebelled against something
that needed to be rebelled against,</i>

1507
01:16:42,306 --> 01:16:44,641
<i>and then you were raised
in that rebellion.</i>

1508
01:16:44,725 --> 01:16:45,559
Yeah.

1509
01:16:45,642 --> 01:16:47,436
[therapist] <i>Letting you
use drugs as a child.</i>

1510
01:16:47,519 --> 01:16:49,771
<i>And it's like... it's kinda fucked up!</i>

1511
01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:52,441
[Downey Jr.] Battered but not broken.

1512
01:16:52,524 --> 01:16:54,943
[therapist] <i>Yes. And then here we are.</i>

1513
01:16:55,027 --> 01:16:58,572
<i>It's like, "How do I go out
without feeling like I missed something,</i>

1514
01:16:58,655 --> 01:16:59,655
<i>you know?"</i>

1515
01:17:00,157 --> 01:17:02,826
<i>Is there anything you need to say to him?</i>

1516
01:17:03,327 --> 01:17:05,996
I just... I don't want to...

1517
01:17:07,289 --> 01:17:09,291
[song continues]

1518
01:17:10,584 --> 01:17:13,045
- I don't wanna do the wrong thing.
- [therapist] <i>Yeah.</i>

1519
01:17:13,128 --> 01:17:14,755
<i>Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.</i>

1520
01:17:20,177 --> 01:17:21,178
[sighs]

1521
01:17:26,433 --> 01:17:27,433
Papa.

1522
01:17:28,602 --> 01:17:31,855
Give us a... give us a "one, two, three,"
so we can check your mic.

1523
01:17:32,814 --> 01:17:34,107
- Who?
- [producer] "Who." Great.

1524
01:17:34,191 --> 01:17:35,484
[Downey Jr.] Perfect.

1525
01:17:35,567 --> 01:17:38,612
While we're still hanging out
and seeing each other,

1526
01:17:38,695 --> 01:17:41,281
I just wanna try to stay close

1527
01:17:41,365 --> 01:17:43,867
and get closer and closer
and closer and closer.

1528
01:17:44,409 --> 01:17:46,328
- Yeah, great idea.
- [Downey Jr.] You know?

1529
01:17:47,996 --> 01:17:51,750
I was gonna ask you
all these questions about just...

1530
01:17:52,417 --> 01:17:54,461
- Any... anything.
- [Downey Jr.] Um... Yeah?

1531
01:17:55,504 --> 01:17:58,882
I don't really even know
how to talk about this, but I just want...

1532
01:18:01,051 --> 01:18:04,388
your point of view, um,

1533
01:18:05,806 --> 01:18:07,015
before we are done.

1534
01:18:08,308 --> 01:18:11,311
Is there anything
you want your kid to know?

1535
01:18:11,895 --> 01:18:12,979
[Downey Sr. chuckles]

1536
01:18:14,690 --> 01:18:15,982
[Downey Jr.] What's so funny?

1537
01:18:16,775 --> 01:18:20,445
Well, in the Hamptons,
my kid has a house and a kid.

1538
01:18:20,529 --> 01:18:23,198
Like, two kids, three kids.

1539
01:18:23,990 --> 01:18:26,368
And, uh, we... we find if we pick

1540
01:18:27,828 --> 01:18:30,914
days when the light's not great,
that's good for us.

1541
01:18:31,498 --> 01:18:32,498
Right.

1542
01:18:32,541 --> 01:18:34,251
'Cause by the time you shoot it...

1543
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,928
it's a good time to make
any kind of film you wanna make.

1544
01:18:45,679 --> 01:18:46,805
[moaning softly]

1545
01:18:51,059 --> 01:18:54,688
[Downey Jr.] When you're not here
in the here and now,

1546
01:18:54,771 --> 01:18:56,565
where does your mind go to most?

1547
01:18:56,648 --> 01:18:58,066
Is there a period in time?

1548
01:18:58,150 --> 01:19:01,737
Or is there something
that's occupying your thoughts?

1549
01:19:04,448 --> 01:19:05,949
From what I can remember,

1550
01:19:07,451 --> 01:19:09,286
before I answer your question,

1551
01:19:10,328 --> 01:19:11,455
I would say the...

1552
01:19:17,544 --> 01:19:19,546
[clattering]

1553
01:19:21,339 --> 01:19:22,424
[sighs gently]

1554
01:19:23,592 --> 01:19:25,969
Charlie Parkinson's disease.

1555
01:19:28,930 --> 01:19:33,477
[Elsie] I have this here dream
where I'm working in this here jazz group.

1556
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,772
And right in the middle
of a very groovy set,

1557
01:19:36,855 --> 01:19:39,107
just as I'm starting my solo...

1558
01:19:39,816 --> 01:19:43,570
[Downey Jr. and Elsie] ...I keel over
and die from Charlie Parkinson's disease.

1559
01:19:43,653 --> 01:19:45,071
[Downey Sr. laughing softly]

1560
01:19:45,655 --> 01:19:47,324
[Downey Jr.] You called it, baby.

1561
01:19:56,917 --> 01:19:57,918
[exhales]

1562
01:19:58,543 --> 01:20:00,212
[brush clattering]

1563
01:20:02,172 --> 01:20:04,758
Is there a pen over there?

1564
01:20:05,383 --> 01:20:07,886
A pen? You want a pen or a pencil?

1565
01:20:07,969 --> 01:20:08,969
Pen.

1566
01:20:10,972 --> 01:20:11,972
Yeah.

1567
01:20:12,474 --> 01:20:14,351
Ah, the old pen.

1568
01:20:14,434 --> 01:20:16,895
You love a bit of pen-and-paper action.

1569
01:20:18,438 --> 01:20:19,856
[Downey Sr. exhales gently]

1570
01:20:24,945 --> 01:20:26,196
[moans softly]

1571
01:20:29,449 --> 01:20:31,368
I can pop it for you if you want.

1572
01:20:33,870 --> 01:20:34,955
Here.

1573
01:20:35,997 --> 01:20:36,997
Thank you.

1574
01:20:38,792 --> 01:20:41,002
- [Downey Jr.] Are you scribbling?
- Yeah.

1575
01:20:41,086 --> 01:20:42,087
[Downey Jr.] Nice.

1576
01:20:42,170 --> 01:20:44,172
[pen scratching across paper]

1577
01:20:47,551 --> 01:20:49,427
[Downey Sr. groans, exhales gently]

1578
01:20:50,637 --> 01:20:51,805
Oh, and Robert...

1579
01:20:54,808 --> 01:20:55,976
had been a...

1580
01:20:58,061 --> 01:21:01,147
a little nervous 'cause he has
all these other things he's doing too,

1581
01:21:01,231 --> 01:21:03,859
but you can see
what he's focusing on is this.

1582
01:21:04,359 --> 01:21:06,444
When he called me up to ask me to...

1583
01:21:09,197 --> 01:21:11,032
He says, "Go slow."

1584
01:21:22,043 --> 01:21:23,461
[exhales]

1585
01:21:24,212 --> 01:21:26,006
Had you two met before?

1586
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:29,926
[Downey Jr.] You mean Jr. and I?

1587
01:21:32,470 --> 01:21:33,471
Yeah.

1588
01:21:35,891 --> 01:21:37,976
[Downey Jr.] Yeah,
we're getting to know each other.

1589
01:21:38,476 --> 01:21:40,604
[paper rustling]

1590
01:21:43,648 --> 01:21:44,649
[Downey Jr. sighs]

1591
01:21:49,237 --> 01:21:51,406
["From the Morning" by Nick Drake playing]

1592
01:21:58,872 --> 01:22:00,874
<i>♪ A day once dawned ♪</i>

1593
01:22:03,251 --> 01:22:04,961
<i>♪ And it was beautiful... ♪</i>

1594
01:22:06,671 --> 01:22:08,965
So we'll probably head back home
in a little while.

1595
01:22:10,550 --> 01:22:12,385
Even though Sr.'s just kinda napping,

1596
01:22:12,469 --> 01:22:14,971
should we just go sit in there
for a while before we cut out?

1597
01:22:15,055 --> 01:22:16,055
- Yeah.
- Okay.

1598
01:22:16,598 --> 01:22:18,308
<i>♪ Then the night she fell ♪</i>

1599
01:22:21,061 --> 01:22:23,146
<i>♪ And the air was beautiful ♪</i>

1600
01:22:25,523 --> 01:22:27,025
<i>♪ The night she fell ♪</i>

1601
01:22:28,068 --> 01:22:29,903
<i>♪ All around ♪</i>

1602
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,451
<i>♪ So look, see the days ♪</i>

1603
01:22:38,745 --> 01:22:41,331
<i>♪ The endless colored ways... ♪</i>

1604
01:22:43,166 --> 01:22:46,378
So we'll probably let Sr. rest, and...

1605
01:22:48,296 --> 01:22:49,881
and then we'll see him<i>,</i> uh,

1606
01:22:51,299 --> 01:22:52,509
down the road a piece.

1607
01:22:54,386 --> 01:22:55,386
[Exton] Yes.

1608
01:23:00,725 --> 01:23:02,727
<i>♪ And now we rise ♪</i>

1609
01:23:03,895 --> 01:23:05,095
[Downey Jr.] I love you, Pops.

1610
01:23:05,146 --> 01:23:06,856
<i>♪ We are everywhere ♪</i>

1611
01:23:09,442 --> 01:23:13,905
<i>♪ And now we rise from the ground ♪</i>

1612
01:23:18,034 --> 01:23:19,911
<i>♪ See she flies ♪</i>

1613
01:23:22,622 --> 01:23:24,374
<i>♪ She is everywhere ♪</i>

1614
01:23:26,876 --> 01:23:31,131
<i>♪ See she flies all around ♪</i>

1615
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:37,512
<i>♪ So look, see the sights ♪</i>

1616
01:23:39,597 --> 01:23:42,267
<i>♪ The endless summer nights ♪</i>

1617
01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:49,858
<i>♪ And go play the game that you learned ♪</i>

1618
01:23:51,067 --> 01:23:52,819
<i>♪ From the morning ♪</i>

1619
01:24:13,214 --> 01:24:15,216
[song fades]

1620
01:24:20,138 --> 01:24:23,892
[Downey Jr.] We had
no overt agenda with this project.

1621
01:24:26,728 --> 01:24:28,271
I had a sense of what it might be,

1622
01:24:28,354 --> 01:24:30,899
and I knew that part of it
was always going to be

1623
01:24:31,399 --> 01:24:32,484
the end of his life.

1624
01:24:34,652 --> 01:24:36,863
Is it a father-son story?
I don't think so.

1625
01:24:36,946 --> 01:24:40,033
Is it about what it is to be an artist?
I don't know. Maybe.

1626
01:24:40,116 --> 01:24:41,618
Is it a contemplation of death?

1627
01:24:41,701 --> 01:24:43,912
I think it's kind of turning into that,

1628
01:24:43,995 --> 01:24:47,123
and not in a morose way,

1629
01:24:47,207 --> 01:24:50,794
but just in a "we're here, we do stuff,
and we're gone."

1630
01:24:53,755 --> 01:24:58,134
And, um, I love him for what he did.
I love him for what he didn't do.

1631
01:25:02,388 --> 01:25:03,388
[softly groans]

1632
01:25:13,024 --> 01:25:19,697
[crowd droning] Ah.

1633
01:25:19,781 --> 01:25:20,824
[man] He has come!

1634
01:25:23,284 --> 01:25:24,285
[droning halts]

1635
01:25:25,411 --> 01:25:26,955
I bring you a message.

1636
01:25:28,248 --> 01:25:32,127
Exactly six miles north of Skag Mountain
in the Valley of Pain,

1637
01:25:32,710 --> 01:25:34,963
there lives an evil devil monster.

1638
01:25:36,464 --> 01:25:39,801
His name is Bingo Gas Station
Motel Cheeseburger

1639
01:25:39,884 --> 01:25:43,138
With A Side Of Aircraft Noise
And You'll Be Gary Indiana,

1640
01:25:44,264 --> 01:25:46,474
and he loves to hurt people.

1641
01:25:48,101 --> 01:25:51,437
The last time I saw Bingo Gas Station
Motel Cheeseburger

1642
01:25:51,521 --> 01:25:54,566
With A Side Of Aircraft Noise
And You'll Be Gary Indiana,

1643
01:25:55,066 --> 01:25:56,693
he told me what he wants to do.

1644
01:25:57,986 --> 01:26:02,073
He wants to come down here
and kill each and every one of you.

1645
01:26:03,199 --> 01:26:05,493
But I said to him, "Bingo, wait a minute."

1646
01:26:06,619 --> 01:26:09,706
And the reason I said that
is because I believe in you people.

1647
01:26:10,373 --> 01:26:11,958
I believe you can do the job.

1648
01:26:13,001 --> 01:26:14,711
I believe you can help each other.

1649
01:26:15,962 --> 01:26:19,340
I believe you can make this world
a better place to live in.

1650
01:26:23,803 --> 01:26:24,803
That's it.

1651
01:26:25,471 --> 01:26:27,390
["Gone" by The Dose playing]

1652
01:26:27,473 --> 01:26:32,937
<i>♪ When I think I've got it figured out ♪</i>

1653
01:26:34,147 --> 01:26:40,069
<i>♪ Pressure reveals unexpected routes ♪</i>

1654
01:26:41,696 --> 01:26:47,285
<i>♪ That lead back into agony's core ♪</i>

1655
01:26:48,828 --> 01:26:54,209
<i>♪ My peace of mind is a civil war ♪</i>

1656
01:26:55,960 --> 01:27:01,090
<i>♪ I'm getting ♪</i>

1657
01:27:01,174 --> 01:27:07,430
<i>♪ Closer to the day I'm gone ♪</i>

1658
01:27:10,099 --> 01:27:14,938
<i>♪ You know life goes on ♪</i>

1659
01:27:31,496 --> 01:27:36,292
<i>♪ I'm getting ♪</i>

1660
01:27:36,876 --> 01:27:43,424
<i>♪ Closer to the day I'm gone ♪</i>

1661
01:27:45,677 --> 01:27:50,974
<i>♪ Until it's ♪</i>

1662
01:27:51,057 --> 01:27:52,934
<i>♪ Over ♪</i>

1663
01:27:53,017 --> 01:27:57,563
<i>♪ You know life goes on ♪</i>

1664
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,004
[song fades]

1665
01:28:22,255 --> 01:28:23,506
Take a card, Mr. Greaser.

1666
01:28:24,132 --> 01:28:25,758
All right. Put it back anywhere.

1667
01:28:27,385 --> 01:28:28,428
- [man] This it?
- No.

1668
01:28:29,429 --> 01:28:30,555
- [man] This one?
- No.

1669
01:28:31,556 --> 01:28:32,557
- [man] That one?
- No!

1670
01:28:33,808 --> 01:28:34,809
- [man] This one?
- No!

1671
01:28:35,852 --> 01:28:36,853
- That one?
- No.

1672
01:28:38,354 --> 01:28:39,439
- [man] That it?
- No.

1673
01:28:40,023 --> 01:28:41,357
- That one?
- No!

1674
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:43,401
- This one?
- No.

1675
01:28:44,319 --> 01:28:45,320
- That one?
- No.

1676
01:28:46,362 --> 01:28:47,363
- This one?
- No!

1677
01:28:48,865 --> 01:28:49,866
- This it?
- No.

1678
01:28:51,159 --> 01:28:52,160
- That it?
- No!

1679
01:28:53,661 --> 01:28:54,662
- This one?
- No.

1680
01:28:55,705 --> 01:28:57,165
- Here it comes!
- [Greaser] No.

1681
01:28:57,957 --> 01:28:59,208
- This one?
- [Greaser] No.

1682
01:29:00,918 --> 01:29:02,211
- That one?
- [Greaser] No.

1683
01:29:02,837 --> 01:29:04,464
- [man] This one?
- [Greaser] No.

1684
01:29:04,547 --> 01:29:05,923
- [man] Is that it?
- [Greaser] No.

1685
01:29:06,007 --> 01:29:07,234
- [man] This one!
- [Greaser] No.

1686
01:29:07,258 --> 01:29:08,092
[crickets chirping]

1687
01:29:08,176 --> 01:29:09,677
- [man] That one?
- [Greaser] No!