1 00:00:06,466 --> 00:00:07,967 [producer] What do you think we should do? 2 00:00:08,051 --> 00:00:09,302 -[Downey Sr.] Us? -[producer] Yeah. 3 00:00:09,385 --> 00:00:11,429 See, if you could get this, 4 00:00:12,013 --> 00:00:14,932 like a close-up or maybe from here up. 5 00:00:15,433 --> 00:00:17,852 -[producer] Yeah? -[Downey Sr.] You got it going? 6 00:00:18,436 --> 00:00:20,480 [producer] Well, no. I'm wide right now. 7 00:00:20,563 --> 00:00:23,191 No, I would get in tighter 'cause it'll be a cutaway. 8 00:00:23,274 --> 00:00:26,944 Yeah, you're gonna want this tight. We might as well get that insert now. 9 00:00:27,528 --> 00:00:30,573 -Let us know when you're rolling. -[Downey Sr.] Rolling? Let's start again. 10 00:00:30,656 --> 00:00:33,618 First, it's not moving. You say, "Oh, this is bullshit." 11 00:00:33,701 --> 00:00:36,204 -[Downey Jr.] Yeah, yeah. -[Downey Sr.] Then it starts moving. 12 00:00:36,287 --> 00:00:37,455 [Downey Jr.] "Wait a minute." 13 00:00:37,538 --> 00:00:40,333 "Maybe that serpent's not full of shit after all." 14 00:00:40,416 --> 00:00:41,709 [Downey Sr. laughing] 15 00:00:41,793 --> 00:00:44,629 -Dad, can I give it a spin? -Yeah, do it, please. 16 00:00:44,712 --> 00:00:47,131 [Downey Jr.] This might be our first coproduction here. 17 00:00:47,215 --> 00:00:48,758 [Rogers laughs] 18 00:00:48,841 --> 00:00:50,885 [Downey Sr.] Nice. Nice! 19 00:00:50,968 --> 00:00:53,721 -["Surf Finger" by Jack Nitzsche playing] -[Downey Sr.] Hey, it's nice! 20 00:00:53,805 --> 00:00:56,015 -It needed your touch. -[Downey Jr. laughing] 21 00:00:56,099 --> 00:00:57,475 [producer] Where would you go next? 22 00:00:57,558 --> 00:00:58,684 -After this? -[producer] Yeah. 23 00:00:58,768 --> 00:01:01,479 We're not even halfway to any ideas like that. 24 00:01:01,562 --> 00:01:02,980 [Rogers laughing] 25 00:01:03,064 --> 00:01:05,733 We're just having fun and getting started. [chuckles] 26 00:01:05,817 --> 00:01:07,235 [groovy '60s rock playing] 27 00:01:07,318 --> 00:01:08,694 [Downey Jr.] Steady on those steps. 28 00:01:08,778 --> 00:01:10,822 -[Downey Sr.] Oh my God. -Give him a hand, Rogers. 29 00:01:10,905 --> 00:01:13,157 -[Rogers] I got it. -Let's not lose our principal. 30 00:01:14,575 --> 00:01:18,538 [Downey Jr.] I'm very interested in who my dad is just in the here and now 31 00:01:18,621 --> 00:01:21,499 because no one knows the hour and the day. 32 00:01:21,582 --> 00:01:24,168 We never know how much time we have with each other. 33 00:01:25,962 --> 00:01:29,757 I think, also, to me, like, he was just always this kinda looming figure. 34 00:01:29,841 --> 00:01:33,302 Like, I was just Bob Downey's kid for a long time. 35 00:01:33,386 --> 00:01:34,387 [music continues] 36 00:01:34,470 --> 00:01:36,472 [Cavett] Success may burst like a clap of thunder 37 00:01:36,556 --> 00:01:37,890 over his head if he isn't careful, 38 00:01:37,974 --> 00:01:40,643 and he's a talented underground filmmaker named Robert Downey. 39 00:01:40,726 --> 00:01:41,561 [crowd applauding] 40 00:01:41,644 --> 00:01:43,521 Do you feel a little compromised by being here 41 00:01:43,604 --> 00:01:45,022 on a network television show? 42 00:01:45,106 --> 00:01:47,191 No, because I know if the film doesn't open, 43 00:01:47,275 --> 00:01:49,569 and it doesn't do well, I won't get to make another one. 44 00:01:50,778 --> 00:01:51,821 [music continues] 45 00:01:51,904 --> 00:01:55,074 [Downey Sr.] I knew the minute I started fooling around with this stuff 46 00:01:55,158 --> 00:01:57,034 that it was better than working a job. 47 00:01:57,118 --> 00:01:58,661 Shouldn't you be in school? 48 00:01:58,744 --> 00:01:59,871 Fuck you. 49 00:01:59,954 --> 00:02:01,622 And fuck the establishment. 50 00:02:01,706 --> 00:02:02,874 And fuck you people 51 00:02:02,957 --> 00:02:05,918 who are trying to make me part of the unestablished establishment. 52 00:02:06,002 --> 00:02:07,712 [Downey Jr.] I was raised in this family 53 00:02:07,795 --> 00:02:10,548 where doing underground films was the norm. 54 00:02:11,174 --> 00:02:15,219 It was very natural to have no interaction with mainstream anything. 55 00:02:16,762 --> 00:02:17,972 [music continues] 56 00:02:19,682 --> 00:02:22,894 [Letterman] What was the first film you were in? One of your dad's projects? 57 00:02:22,977 --> 00:02:25,271 -[Downey Jr.] It was. -[Letterman] What became of you then? 58 00:02:25,354 --> 00:02:26,981 -[sighs loudly] -[crowd laughing] 59 00:02:27,064 --> 00:02:29,901 Then he became the highest-paid movie actor in the world. 60 00:02:29,984 --> 00:02:32,695 -That's what he decided to do. -Yeah, I guess, Dad, come get your cut. 61 00:02:32,778 --> 00:02:34,363 -[Letterman laughing] -[crowd applauding] 62 00:02:35,323 --> 00:02:37,992 [Downey Sr.] That's a shot with Robert and I ages ago. 63 00:02:38,492 --> 00:02:39,869 And the photographer says, 64 00:02:39,952 --> 00:02:43,080 "Why don't we each have you guys have chainsaws?" 65 00:02:43,706 --> 00:02:45,958 And Robert said, "Get the fuck out of here." 66 00:02:46,626 --> 00:02:49,962 Uh, we still… We're still happy with the title "Sr.," are we not? 67 00:02:50,671 --> 00:02:53,174 Yeah, I like it, but we can… we can do better. 68 00:02:53,257 --> 00:02:54,258 Oh. 69 00:02:54,967 --> 00:02:55,968 [music ends] 70 00:02:57,970 --> 00:02:59,972 [birds chirping] 71 00:03:00,723 --> 00:03:02,391 -[Downey Jr.] Where is Sr.? -[producer] The back house. 72 00:03:02,475 --> 00:03:04,101 Yeah, let's go walk out there. Come on. 73 00:03:04,602 --> 00:03:07,521 ["Theme from A Summer Place (Instrumental)" by Percy Faith playing] 74 00:03:07,605 --> 00:03:09,315 You will presently witness 75 00:03:10,149 --> 00:03:12,401 the offspring of Sr.'s offspring. 76 00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:18,574 Don't throw water balloons at the, uh… at my crew. 77 00:03:19,283 --> 00:03:22,453 I like that that's his kid, and here's his daughter. 78 00:03:23,412 --> 00:03:24,413 Good shot. 79 00:03:24,914 --> 00:03:26,040 Great. Movement. 80 00:03:26,832 --> 00:03:28,125 Nobody's sitting. 81 00:03:28,209 --> 00:03:31,087 [Downey Jr.] Hey, have you seen any of Grandpa's movies? 82 00:03:31,754 --> 00:03:32,797 No, why? 83 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,424 Because they're awesome. Do you wanna see 'em someday? 84 00:03:35,508 --> 00:03:37,426 -[Exton] Uh, maybe. -Just a maybe. 85 00:03:38,219 --> 00:03:40,680 Dude, if you're gonna throw a water balloon, hit me with it. 86 00:03:40,763 --> 00:03:42,139 [Downey Jr. laughing exaggeratedly] 87 00:03:42,932 --> 00:03:44,850 -[Downey Sr. chuckling] -[Exton yelling on screen] 88 00:03:44,934 --> 00:03:46,644 -That's good. -[Downey Jr. shrieks on screen] 89 00:03:46,727 --> 00:03:47,979 [chucking] 90 00:03:48,062 --> 00:03:50,273 [Downey Jr.] Avri, give us a wave. That's all we need. 91 00:03:50,356 --> 00:03:52,316 Just give us a little wave. Ah, Christ. 92 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,443 -[Exton exclaiming, laughing] -[Downey Jr. laughing] 93 00:03:54,527 --> 00:03:56,445 [Exton] Get… You need to get those hairs wet. 94 00:03:56,529 --> 00:03:58,072 [laughing] Jesus H… 95 00:03:58,906 --> 00:04:01,242 Don't you hit me again. I swear to God. 96 00:04:01,826 --> 00:04:03,577 Don't… don't get the camera wet. 97 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,871 Quit it. Sr.? 98 00:04:06,455 --> 00:04:08,666 Your grandson is boundaryless. 99 00:04:08,749 --> 00:04:10,209 This is like growing up with my dad. 100 00:04:10,293 --> 00:04:12,545 "Hey, whatever you do, don't get the camera wet." 101 00:04:12,628 --> 00:04:14,755 -Did you get it? -We got it. 102 00:04:14,839 --> 00:04:20,136 We don't have anything usable yet, except Exton provided some… some action. 103 00:04:20,219 --> 00:04:22,221 -You mind if I switch out real quick? -No. 104 00:04:22,305 --> 00:04:23,306 Thanks. 105 00:04:24,932 --> 00:04:26,851 [song fades] 106 00:04:26,934 --> 00:04:29,729 [Downey Sr.] I just wanna show you something before we do anything. 107 00:04:30,229 --> 00:04:32,732 -Just me? -[Downey Sr.] No, Rosemary and you. 108 00:04:32,815 --> 00:04:34,233 Here she is. 109 00:04:34,317 --> 00:04:37,153 [Rogers] Robert had an idea of doing a documentary about his dad 110 00:04:37,236 --> 00:04:40,031 and about their history and their life together. 111 00:04:40,114 --> 00:04:42,867 You know, so many people, they know Robert Downey Jr., 112 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:44,577 but they don't know Robert Downey Sr. 113 00:04:44,660 --> 00:04:47,413 And he just wanted to, for the record, correct that. 114 00:04:47,496 --> 00:04:49,540 [Downey Jr.] We're just finding our way into something 115 00:04:49,623 --> 00:04:51,667 that we hope winds up being interesting 116 00:04:51,751 --> 00:04:52,877 and not the usual 117 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,631 and a bit of a foray into that crazy thing, 118 00:04:57,715 --> 00:05:00,092 you know, of trying to understand your dad. 119 00:05:00,176 --> 00:05:02,136 [producer] Do you feel like you understand him now? 120 00:05:02,636 --> 00:05:04,638 I have a feeling I'll know a lot more… 121 00:05:04,722 --> 00:05:06,307 [laughs] …when we're done. 122 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:09,143 You come back, which is probably where we'll start, 123 00:05:10,019 --> 00:05:13,856 to Robert and Rosemary on the couch, and we go from there. 124 00:05:13,939 --> 00:05:16,442 Look, we'll do the same thing, except we'll do it out there. 125 00:05:16,525 --> 00:05:17,360 Yeah. 126 00:05:17,443 --> 00:05:19,904 -"How long have you two been married?" -That's me, right? 127 00:05:19,987 --> 00:05:21,030 -Yeah. -Yeah. 128 00:05:22,156 --> 00:05:24,367 How long have you and Pops been married? 129 00:05:24,450 --> 00:05:25,493 Fifteen hundred years. 130 00:05:25,576 --> 00:05:28,704 See, I think this… We should switch seats. 131 00:05:29,288 --> 00:05:31,165 You should. Let's get her in the middle. 132 00:05:32,166 --> 00:05:34,085 -[Downey Sr. groans softly] -Oh yeah. 133 00:05:34,168 --> 00:05:35,795 How long have you guys been married? 134 00:05:36,504 --> 00:05:37,713 Fifteen hundred years. 135 00:05:37,797 --> 00:05:39,048 -Oh boy. -Mm-hmm. 136 00:05:39,131 --> 00:05:40,549 Did that go better this time? 137 00:05:40,633 --> 00:05:42,843 She looked up in the middle of something up… up that way. 138 00:05:42,927 --> 00:05:46,430 You're right. Let's do it again. Take three, opener. 139 00:05:46,514 --> 00:05:47,598 [Rogers laughing] 140 00:05:47,681 --> 00:05:51,060 [Downey Jr.] He would rather be doing a film about something else 141 00:05:51,143 --> 00:05:53,896 than allow a documentary to be made about him. 142 00:05:53,979 --> 00:05:57,566 So the middle ground has been he's doing his own version. 143 00:05:57,650 --> 00:05:59,402 How long have you two been married? 144 00:05:59,485 --> 00:06:01,904 Uh, fifteen hundred years this July. 145 00:06:01,987 --> 00:06:03,114 -Oh my God. -I know. 146 00:06:03,197 --> 00:06:05,658 -Oh wow, happy anniversary. Almost. -Thank you. 147 00:06:05,741 --> 00:06:07,451 -Fine by me. -Okay. 148 00:06:08,285 --> 00:06:10,913 -By the way, that's his directing style. -[Rogers chuckles] 149 00:06:10,996 --> 00:06:13,290 [Downey Jr.] So then I put it to him this way. I said, "Dad, 150 00:06:13,374 --> 00:06:16,544 the legitimate documentary we're making about you 151 00:06:16,627 --> 00:06:21,882 is kinda what's covering the cost of this art film that you're making." 152 00:06:21,966 --> 00:06:23,634 And he seems agreeable to that. 153 00:06:24,885 --> 00:06:25,719 Whoa! 154 00:06:25,803 --> 00:06:28,431 ["Besame Mucho" by Artie Shaw and His Gramercy Five playing] 155 00:06:28,514 --> 00:06:31,350 You got it? That's good. That's worth the whole day. 156 00:06:32,143 --> 00:06:33,018 That's funny. 157 00:06:33,102 --> 00:06:36,021 I'm thinking any visuals that you must like goes on file. 158 00:06:36,105 --> 00:06:37,565 And you never know. 159 00:06:37,648 --> 00:06:40,568 It could end up right somewhere where you didn't expect it. 160 00:06:40,651 --> 00:06:44,780 What's the guy who said, "One picture is worth a thousand words"? 161 00:06:44,864 --> 00:06:46,532 It's one good picture. 162 00:06:47,241 --> 00:06:52,913 Sr. would be one of the best people to caption photographs or street scenes 163 00:06:52,997 --> 00:06:54,373 that you will ever meet. 164 00:06:54,457 --> 00:07:00,796 In a more of a typical, mid-century, male, butch way though. 165 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,756 Oftentimes it's, "Look at this douche." 166 00:07:03,799 --> 00:07:04,884 Look at this group. 167 00:07:04,967 --> 00:07:08,971 -[Rogers] What's going on over there? -[Downey Sr.] AA meeting. [laughing] 168 00:07:09,054 --> 00:07:11,098 "Let's go have a drink. Nobody'll know." 169 00:07:11,807 --> 00:07:13,601 Look what's going on in that window. 170 00:07:13,684 --> 00:07:15,686 There should be somebody on the other side 171 00:07:15,769 --> 00:07:18,606 performing a wedding ceremony for somebody outside. 172 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,150 [chuckling] Maybe. 173 00:07:21,233 --> 00:07:23,152 [song continues] 174 00:07:23,235 --> 00:07:26,489 Well, here's the corner, and this used to be an apartment building. 175 00:07:26,572 --> 00:07:27,448 This is it. 176 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,285 I don't know what you're thinking, but maybe 177 00:07:32,161 --> 00:07:34,163 you start on that and then hear the dialogue 178 00:07:34,246 --> 00:07:35,706 and come over and show this. 179 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:36,790 [producer] Okay. 180 00:07:36,874 --> 00:07:37,875 [song ends] 181 00:07:39,376 --> 00:07:40,711 [indistinct chatter] 182 00:07:41,545 --> 00:07:45,591 [Downey Sr.] 116 University used to be, uh, three lofts, 183 00:07:45,674 --> 00:07:48,677 and we were on the next-to-top floor, the second one up. 184 00:07:50,429 --> 00:07:51,430 Nothing's left. 185 00:07:52,181 --> 00:07:55,976 [producer] Did you feel pretty grown up? Y'know, you had kids. 186 00:07:56,060 --> 00:07:57,019 No. 187 00:07:57,686 --> 00:08:00,814 No, that might be the problem. [chuckles] 188 00:08:01,524 --> 00:08:04,193 I don't know what Robert thought, but it was different. 189 00:08:04,276 --> 00:08:06,779 [producer] Were you making a film while you lived here? 190 00:08:06,862 --> 00:08:07,821 Oh yeah. 191 00:08:10,074 --> 00:08:11,116 [CD case clatters] 192 00:08:15,037 --> 00:08:17,039 "Downey film short"? 193 00:08:17,122 --> 00:08:18,582 I don't know what that is. 194 00:08:18,666 --> 00:08:20,709 I can get rid of all these. 195 00:08:22,086 --> 00:08:25,381 I'm just thinking that I wanna go through my films 196 00:08:25,464 --> 00:08:29,134 and pick out scenes that I know will work in what you're doing. 197 00:08:30,094 --> 00:08:32,137 That's actually more important than anything. 198 00:08:34,974 --> 00:08:36,559 Oh, this is interesting. 199 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:38,894 Let's start with this. 200 00:08:40,396 --> 00:08:41,605 [kissing] 201 00:08:41,689 --> 00:08:43,190 [woman] Mmm… 202 00:08:43,274 --> 00:08:44,275 [Downey Sr.] There it is. 203 00:08:44,358 --> 00:08:45,693 [woman] Love you, Walter. 204 00:08:46,193 --> 00:08:47,403 I'll see ya later. 205 00:08:47,486 --> 00:08:50,281 [woman] I love you more than anything else in the world. 206 00:08:50,948 --> 00:08:52,575 [Walter] I love you too, Mother. 207 00:08:53,909 --> 00:08:55,911 [laughing] 208 00:08:56,704 --> 00:08:57,913 That's good. 209 00:08:57,997 --> 00:09:00,082 -[producer] Did you write that? -[Downey Sr.] Oh yeah. 210 00:09:00,165 --> 00:09:01,792 This is how we got started. 211 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:02,960 [producer] Your career? 212 00:09:03,043 --> 00:09:04,253 The whole fucking thing. 213 00:09:05,504 --> 00:09:06,630 [laughing] 214 00:09:06,714 --> 00:09:08,632 ["Baja" by Jack Nitzsche playing] 215 00:09:09,466 --> 00:09:13,929 [mother] You know, Walter, you can have whatever you want in this life. 216 00:09:14,013 --> 00:09:15,973 I guess the only thing I really want 217 00:09:16,557 --> 00:09:17,433 is you. 218 00:09:17,933 --> 00:09:20,436 Chafed Elbows is a film about an oddball 219 00:09:20,519 --> 00:09:22,646 who marries his mother and goes on welfare. 220 00:09:22,730 --> 00:09:26,400 It is an ode to Oedipus. 221 00:09:26,483 --> 00:09:30,112 My mother, she didn't appreciate Chafed Elbows, I'll tell you. 222 00:09:31,655 --> 00:09:32,656 Jesus. 223 00:09:35,326 --> 00:09:38,495 I said, "It's only a film." She said, "I don't care what it is." 224 00:09:39,371 --> 00:09:41,040 [chuckling] "How dare you." 225 00:09:41,832 --> 00:09:43,042 [song continues] 226 00:09:43,125 --> 00:09:47,379 [Downey Sr.] We were having fun figuring out how to focus a camera. 227 00:09:48,005 --> 00:09:52,134 None of us thought we were doing something that had an audience. 228 00:09:52,217 --> 00:09:55,471 I know I'm robbing the cradle, but at least it's my own. 229 00:09:55,971 --> 00:10:00,267 [Downey Sr.] Then suddenly, I got this little review in The New York Times. 230 00:10:01,185 --> 00:10:03,979 The next morning, there was a line around the corner 231 00:10:04,063 --> 00:10:06,940 for this little film in 16-millimeter. 232 00:10:07,441 --> 00:10:09,693 [producer] What was inspiring you to make these movies? 233 00:10:09,777 --> 00:10:11,945 [Downey Sr.] It was unique. It was different. 234 00:10:12,029 --> 00:10:14,990 I mean, where else could you be doing something like making a movie, 235 00:10:15,074 --> 00:10:17,034 and you've never made one before? 236 00:10:18,535 --> 00:10:19,995 [producer] Can you hear that? 237 00:10:20,079 --> 00:10:21,997 [sirens wailing in distance] 238 00:10:22,956 --> 00:10:23,999 It all fits. 239 00:10:24,541 --> 00:10:25,918 -[producer] What, the siren? -Yeah. 240 00:10:26,001 --> 00:10:30,047 [producer] Okay, okay. Did people try to ascribe meaning to your movies? 241 00:10:31,090 --> 00:10:33,509 Oh my God. I hope not. 242 00:10:34,843 --> 00:10:37,096 [male voice] Would you people mind if I joined you? 243 00:10:37,179 --> 00:10:39,348 -Come on, baby. -[male voice] Oh yeah? 244 00:10:39,431 --> 00:10:41,392 Let me get my duds off here. 245 00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:43,060 Move over, champ. 246 00:10:43,143 --> 00:10:44,478 -Lemme in there, huh? -[woman] Mmm. 247 00:10:44,561 --> 00:10:47,231 [Downey Sr.] We didn't know what we were doing, but suddenly the films 248 00:10:47,314 --> 00:10:50,484 started getting better or weirder. 249 00:10:50,567 --> 00:10:52,778 ["KHJ Radio Beds" by Jack Nitzsche playing] 250 00:10:59,076 --> 00:11:01,161 [Downey Jr.] After Chafed Elbows, 251 00:11:01,245 --> 00:11:04,415 Sr. and Elsie, my mom, they were just always writing. 252 00:11:04,498 --> 00:11:06,709 I think it's been a very creative day. 253 00:11:06,792 --> 00:11:10,879 [Downey Jr.] There was this flow of people through the house 254 00:11:10,963 --> 00:11:13,048 for dailies and writing sessions. 255 00:11:13,132 --> 00:11:16,468 The time spent with him was perfectly, wonderfully, 256 00:11:16,552 --> 00:11:18,762 deliciously insane. 257 00:11:18,846 --> 00:11:21,140 I'm in the middle of a nervous breakdown. 258 00:11:21,223 --> 00:11:23,892 [man] Well, do it somewhere else. We're busy in here. 259 00:11:24,393 --> 00:11:27,104 [Lear] With an odd, odd sense of humor, 260 00:11:27,187 --> 00:11:29,898 he is so much his own man, 261 00:11:29,982 --> 00:11:31,817 so much his own artist. 262 00:11:32,484 --> 00:11:36,196 [Arkin] There's a kind of benign nihilism through his work. 263 00:11:36,739 --> 00:11:38,532 Just the freedom of it. 264 00:11:38,615 --> 00:11:40,617 You didn't know where the story was gonna go. 265 00:11:40,701 --> 00:11:42,703 You didn't know if there was a story. 266 00:11:43,287 --> 00:11:47,124 There was a sense that each moment was allowed to play itself out 267 00:11:47,207 --> 00:11:49,293 until you're hysterically laughing. 268 00:11:50,043 --> 00:11:53,338 They'd moved whatever little crib I was in 269 00:11:53,422 --> 00:11:57,468 into the area adjacent to where they were screening dailies. 270 00:11:57,551 --> 00:12:01,847 So I got very used to falling asleep to the sound of clapboards. 271 00:12:01,930 --> 00:12:04,308 It's almost like I was being programmed. 272 00:12:04,391 --> 00:12:06,852 This one is Robert in a crib. 273 00:12:07,352 --> 00:12:10,189 -[producer] Did you put him there? -It must have been me. 274 00:12:10,272 --> 00:12:13,484 [Downey Jr.] And I just remember that cacophony of creativity. 275 00:12:13,567 --> 00:12:16,695 Lots of cigarettes and weed and booze, 276 00:12:16,779 --> 00:12:18,113 but mostly laughter. 277 00:12:18,197 --> 00:12:21,909 If you don't give me those 12 H-bombs, I'm gonna drain your gold for ya. 278 00:12:21,992 --> 00:12:25,120 That's right, man, 12 H-bombs, or I drain your gold for ya. 279 00:12:25,204 --> 00:12:26,288 [gun fires] 280 00:12:26,371 --> 00:12:30,751 One of the things I liked best about him as a filmmaker and as a director, 281 00:12:30,834 --> 00:12:32,419 he'd just let me go wild. 282 00:12:32,503 --> 00:12:33,337 [gasps] 283 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:38,467 I might add a few improvised words or gestures, and I remember him saying, 284 00:12:38,550 --> 00:12:40,761 "I don't know what it means, but I love it." 285 00:12:41,804 --> 00:12:44,431 [Arkin] I don't know how he came up with his casting ideas. 286 00:12:44,515 --> 00:12:46,934 I couldn't figure it out 'cause they didn't seem like actors. 287 00:12:47,017 --> 00:12:48,185 I didn't know what they were. 288 00:12:48,268 --> 00:12:50,395 It's like he went down to the Bowery half the time 289 00:12:50,479 --> 00:12:53,023 and just picked up people who were half in the bag. 290 00:12:53,774 --> 00:12:55,484 But they were wonderful, 291 00:12:55,567 --> 00:12:59,279 just a wonderful bunch of un-actory-looking people. 292 00:12:59,780 --> 00:13:01,365 What's going on? 293 00:13:01,448 --> 00:13:03,575 You gotta draw the line somewhere. 294 00:13:03,659 --> 00:13:06,870 [Downey Jr.] If there was one undercurrent that was really shifty, 295 00:13:06,954 --> 00:13:10,165 it was either, "We're flush," or, "We're broke!" 296 00:13:10,249 --> 00:13:12,584 It was never like, "We're stable." 297 00:13:12,668 --> 00:13:15,295 By "flush," I mean 500 bucks in the bank. 298 00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:18,048 [man 1] We're ready to roll over here. 299 00:13:18,131 --> 00:13:21,927 I made one with just stills almost 'cause we couldn't afford film. 300 00:13:22,010 --> 00:13:23,637 [man 2] You can't direct nothing. 301 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,765 [man 1] If it wasn't for me, you'd be on unemployment with the rest of the scum 302 00:13:26,849 --> 00:13:27,891 of the underground cinema. 303 00:13:27,975 --> 00:13:30,018 [Downey Sr.] The early ones, I made so cheaply. 304 00:13:30,102 --> 00:13:32,938 Just working a job somewhere, I could get it done. 305 00:13:33,021 --> 00:13:34,106 [song continues] 306 00:13:34,189 --> 00:13:35,983 [Downey Jr.] Things were just grounded enough 307 00:13:36,066 --> 00:13:38,443 that a very charismatic guy 308 00:13:38,527 --> 00:13:41,905 who had different ideas and curiosity 309 00:13:41,989 --> 00:13:45,492 could create a new standard of filmmaking. 310 00:13:46,201 --> 00:13:48,996 And I think he's someone who has preserved that curiosity 311 00:13:49,580 --> 00:13:51,373 well into his autumn years. 312 00:13:52,124 --> 00:13:53,292 [music ends] 313 00:13:53,375 --> 00:13:55,043 [ship horn sounding] 314 00:14:00,674 --> 00:14:02,175 There it is. There it is. 315 00:14:02,926 --> 00:14:03,844 See it? 316 00:14:06,305 --> 00:14:09,474 It's kinda reassuring to be in a city and see this, huh? 317 00:14:11,226 --> 00:14:14,104 If you had to introduce this scene, 318 00:14:14,688 --> 00:14:17,482 I wonder whether you would come down 319 00:14:17,566 --> 00:14:19,693 or pan down from a building to this 320 00:14:19,776 --> 00:14:22,487 or pan up from something here. 321 00:14:22,571 --> 00:14:24,114 I don't know. Both, maybe, right? 322 00:14:24,698 --> 00:14:27,868 That's an interesting image there. Wow. Like a Western. 323 00:14:27,951 --> 00:14:30,495 ["Stranger on the Shore" by Jack Nitzsche playing] 324 00:14:40,464 --> 00:14:42,466 [Downey Sr.] Look at 'em all. There are nine of them. 325 00:14:44,468 --> 00:14:48,305 How could they have all come out of one duck? 326 00:14:51,058 --> 00:14:53,435 Look at Mom, perusing the whole joint. 327 00:14:54,478 --> 00:14:55,604 [Downey Sr. chuckling] 328 00:15:03,862 --> 00:15:06,198 -Remember the ducks you shot? -[producer] Yeah. 329 00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:08,825 They've grown. They're big. 330 00:15:09,868 --> 00:15:11,787 We'll see 'em this afternoon if you want. 331 00:15:11,870 --> 00:15:13,121 They're big. 332 00:15:14,373 --> 00:15:17,376 I hope you guys are as happy as I am with this footage. 333 00:15:20,379 --> 00:15:24,132 I think you need stuff other than about movies, for balance. 334 00:15:24,216 --> 00:15:26,093 [producer] So it's not just about the films? 335 00:15:26,176 --> 00:15:27,761 -Right. -[producer] Who is this guy? 336 00:15:27,844 --> 00:15:28,845 Exactly. 337 00:15:30,305 --> 00:15:31,682 [producer] Who is this guy? 338 00:15:32,391 --> 00:15:35,435 Uh, I'll never know. [laughing] 339 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:37,521 [song continues] 340 00:15:44,778 --> 00:15:46,196 [Downey Sr.] There they are. 341 00:15:47,155 --> 00:15:48,323 Oh my God. 342 00:15:52,244 --> 00:15:54,705 Wow. Heh! 343 00:15:56,748 --> 00:16:00,752 I've never seen this thing with a real tiny one and a big one 344 00:16:01,461 --> 00:16:03,046 all within a lifespan. 345 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,134 -Boy, I'm getting dizzy. -[producer] Oh shit. 346 00:16:07,634 --> 00:16:09,886 -[Downey Sr.] Whoa. -[producer] Can you go to the bench? 347 00:16:09,970 --> 00:16:11,680 -[Downey Sr.] Yeah. -[producer] All right. 348 00:16:14,391 --> 00:16:17,728 -[Downey Sr.] Oh my God. Oh boy. -[producer] That was a close call. 349 00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:22,399 [inhales sharply, groans] 350 00:16:22,482 --> 00:16:25,068 [producer] We gotta figure out how to get him back upstairs. 351 00:16:25,152 --> 00:16:28,071 -No, I'll be all right. -[producer] You'll be able to walk up? 352 00:16:28,572 --> 00:16:29,740 As long as you stick cl-- 353 00:16:29,823 --> 00:16:32,284 -relatively close, I'll be okay. -[producer] Yeah. 354 00:16:40,751 --> 00:16:46,131 I… I think I have to face the, uh, idea of my problem 355 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,593 and just cut away to the shakes that I get sometimes. 356 00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:51,053 You just see that going on. 357 00:16:55,265 --> 00:16:58,769 And Rosemary, when it happens in a restaurant or something, 358 00:16:58,852 --> 00:17:01,229 she just… she'll just go over to me and go… 359 00:17:01,313 --> 00:17:02,272 [slaps other hand] 360 00:17:02,355 --> 00:17:03,940 [chucking] …and it calms down. 361 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,735 -Yeah. -[producer] What is that? 362 00:17:07,235 --> 00:17:08,695 [Downey Sr.] The Parkinson's. 363 00:17:11,865 --> 00:17:13,617 I just thought… [spluttering] 364 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:14,701 …you know… [spluttering] 365 00:17:14,785 --> 00:17:18,955 …there's a certain way I have to eat now. Otherwise, the shit's all over the floor. 366 00:17:19,706 --> 00:17:20,707 So, 367 00:17:21,833 --> 00:17:22,834 let's face it. 368 00:17:23,335 --> 00:17:26,338 [phone dialing] 369 00:17:27,380 --> 00:17:29,549 [line ringing] 370 00:17:31,968 --> 00:17:34,971 -[prolonged exhale] -[Downey Sr.] Good morning. 371 00:17:35,555 --> 00:17:36,598 Hi. 372 00:17:37,099 --> 00:17:40,185 -[Downey Sr.] How are you? -[in sad voice] Sometimes I wonder. 373 00:17:40,685 --> 00:17:42,729 [Downey Sr. chuckling on phone] 374 00:17:42,813 --> 00:17:44,856 Tell me everything. How ya been? 375 00:17:45,524 --> 00:17:47,317 Um, okay. 376 00:17:48,443 --> 00:17:50,403 [hesitating] Okay. 377 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:53,865 Is it a struggle? 378 00:17:53,949 --> 00:17:57,285 Is it challenging? Is it weird? Is it scary? 379 00:17:57,369 --> 00:18:01,123 On a certain day, any of those. 380 00:18:01,206 --> 00:18:05,794 You know, I do think that that should… that should be part of the film. 381 00:18:05,877 --> 00:18:06,753 Oh. 382 00:18:07,379 --> 00:18:10,340 -I like that you have this project. -[Downey Jr.] Me too. 383 00:18:10,882 --> 00:18:13,593 I don't know why. It's… it's creative 384 00:18:13,677 --> 00:18:17,430 and, uh, soothing to me on so many levels. 385 00:18:17,514 --> 00:18:18,348 Oh, yeah. 386 00:18:19,099 --> 00:18:21,768 It's exciting because it's not like anything else. 387 00:18:21,852 --> 00:18:23,854 ["Summertime" by Charles Mingus playing] 388 00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:26,523 Okay. 389 00:18:30,527 --> 00:18:34,197 [Rogers] With Parkinson's, you lose a little bit of something every day. 390 00:18:35,448 --> 00:18:38,743 But he's so fully focused on this film. 391 00:18:40,412 --> 00:18:44,541 It's obviously energizing for him and exciting for him. 392 00:18:46,126 --> 00:18:49,337 [Downey Sr.] It'll be on the left if it's on this street. 393 00:18:49,421 --> 00:18:50,922 This might be it. 394 00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:52,883 [Rogers] Looks like it. 395 00:18:52,966 --> 00:18:54,217 [Downey Sr.] Could be. 396 00:18:54,301 --> 00:18:57,512 -[producer] Bob, where are we? -[Downey Sr.] Great Jones Alley. 397 00:18:58,805 --> 00:19:00,223 Not Grace Jones. 398 00:19:01,057 --> 00:19:03,935 We paid a bum $50 399 00:19:04,019 --> 00:19:07,522 to lay down in a heap of depression. 400 00:19:08,356 --> 00:19:09,774 And then we did the scene. 401 00:19:11,067 --> 00:19:14,154 And he said, "Let's do it again," when we finished. [chuckles] 402 00:19:14,863 --> 00:19:16,865 That was nice. I do remember that. 403 00:19:18,783 --> 00:19:19,784 Wow. 404 00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:21,369 [producer] What was the scene? 405 00:19:21,870 --> 00:19:25,498 It was a scene where there's… She's doing a commercial for… 406 00:19:28,084 --> 00:19:31,254 Actually, she's just so great-looking, nobody cared what it was. 407 00:19:32,631 --> 00:19:35,383 ["Eclipse (From Putney Swope)" by Charley Cuva playing] 408 00:19:36,551 --> 00:19:38,762 You can't eat an air conditioner. 409 00:19:41,431 --> 00:19:45,560 [Downey Sr.] When I decided to make a film about an ad agency, 410 00:19:45,644 --> 00:19:47,646 I think this is the quickest I wrote anything. 411 00:19:47,729 --> 00:19:49,147 I was having so much fun. 412 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,278 If we use c-c-creative foreplay 413 00:19:55,362 --> 00:19:57,822 before we penetrate, 414 00:19:58,448 --> 00:20:01,576 we'll b-b-b-b… 415 00:20:01,660 --> 00:20:02,953 [man 1] Bypass? 416 00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:04,871 -[man 2] B-b-b-b… -Looks like. 417 00:20:04,955 --> 00:20:07,874 -[man 2] B-b-b-b… -Sounds like. 418 00:20:07,958 --> 00:20:09,668 -[man 2] B-b-b-b… -How many syllables, Mario? 419 00:20:09,751 --> 00:20:12,337 -[man 2] B-b-b-b… -How many syllables, Mario? 420 00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:14,130 -[man 2] B-b-b-b! -How many syllables, Mario? 421 00:20:14,214 --> 00:20:16,091 B-b-b! [groans] 422 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:19,135 [Downey Sr.] It's about a white ad agency 423 00:20:19,219 --> 00:20:22,180 where the head of the agency dies and has a heart attack. 424 00:20:22,264 --> 00:20:26,017 His board of executives take his rings and watches and so forth, 425 00:20:26,101 --> 00:20:28,311 and they have to vote in a new chairman of the board. 426 00:20:28,395 --> 00:20:30,897 The rules are you can't vote for yourself, 427 00:20:30,981 --> 00:20:33,817 so they all vote for the one Black guy in the ad agency, 428 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:36,736 thinking nobody else will vote for him, and he's elected. 429 00:20:38,196 --> 00:20:41,449 -Swope. -My father would have wanted it this way. 430 00:20:42,993 --> 00:20:44,536 He dug you very much. 431 00:20:44,619 --> 00:20:47,580 Your father was a horse's ass. 432 00:20:47,664 --> 00:20:50,750 He goes up to the head of the table and says, "The changes I'm gonna make 433 00:20:50,834 --> 00:20:51,751 will be minimal." 434 00:20:51,835 --> 00:20:53,670 [Swope] I'm not gonna rock the boat. 435 00:20:53,753 --> 00:20:55,922 Rocking the boat's a drag. 436 00:20:56,006 --> 00:20:57,882 What you do is sink the boat! 437 00:20:57,966 --> 00:21:00,844 [Downey Sr.] Cuts over his back, and there's 40 Black people sitting there, 438 00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:02,053 and the movie starts. 439 00:21:02,137 --> 00:21:05,348 I hear the film is really funny. I would say that anyway, even if I hadn't. 440 00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:06,558 [crowd laughing] 441 00:21:06,641 --> 00:21:09,853 -But, uh… but I really do. -I hope the film's more than funny. 442 00:21:09,936 --> 00:21:12,147 -Do you? -I hope it has some sting in it too. 443 00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:15,275 -As a window cleaner, forget it. -[funky rock music playing] 444 00:21:15,358 --> 00:21:17,152 Put soybeans in it for protein, 445 00:21:17,235 --> 00:21:19,779 and we'll push it as a soft drink in the ghetto. 446 00:21:19,863 --> 00:21:24,367 There is no revolution the way you're running this joint, man. 447 00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:26,286 Now, when is something gonna happen? 448 00:21:27,495 --> 00:21:29,456 [Downey Jr.] Putney was right in the middle 449 00:21:29,539 --> 00:21:32,542 of all of that civil rights turmoil. 450 00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:35,462 How did that concept come to you? 451 00:21:35,545 --> 00:21:37,797 -I was working a job. -[Downey Jr.] Mm-hmm. 452 00:21:37,881 --> 00:21:40,842 [Downey Sr.] And the Black guy working next to me said, 453 00:21:40,925 --> 00:21:45,138 "You make more money than I do, and we're doing the same thing." 454 00:21:45,221 --> 00:21:47,265 -[Downey Jr.] Right. -[Downey Sr.] That did it for me. 455 00:21:47,349 --> 00:21:49,976 If I give you a raise, everybody's gonna want a raise. 456 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,189 And if I give them a raise, we'll be right back where we started. 457 00:21:54,689 --> 00:21:57,317 [Downey Sr.] I didn't think anybody would come see it, but, boy, 458 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,735 I… I didn't know shit. 459 00:21:59,486 --> 00:22:01,613 ["Born to Be Wild" by Steppenwolf playing] 460 00:22:10,872 --> 00:22:12,832 [Downey Sr.] It seemed there was something going on 461 00:22:12,916 --> 00:22:15,835 that hooked into whatever was socially going on 462 00:22:16,586 --> 00:22:17,962 and what the movie was. 463 00:22:19,047 --> 00:22:20,673 So it was a nice mirror. 464 00:22:20,757 --> 00:22:23,093 ♪ In whatever comes our way… ♪ 465 00:22:23,593 --> 00:22:25,303 [Downey Sr.] It wasn't really about the movie 466 00:22:25,387 --> 00:22:27,472 as much as it was about society. 467 00:22:28,139 --> 00:22:30,683 ♪ Take the world in a love embrace… ♪ 468 00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:33,728 [Downey Sr.] If everybody could get turned on 469 00:22:33,812 --> 00:22:36,356 to having a sense of humor about themselves, 470 00:22:36,439 --> 00:22:39,734 I think we could get over a lot of things that we take very, very seriously. 471 00:22:39,818 --> 00:22:43,279 We could approach the serious matters in a different way, 472 00:22:43,363 --> 00:22:47,075 like war and poverty and all the things that are going on. 473 00:22:47,158 --> 00:22:48,243 [crowd shouting] 474 00:22:50,078 --> 00:22:52,831 ♪ Yeah, darlin', go and make it happen ♪ 475 00:22:53,331 --> 00:22:55,583 ♪ Take the world in a love embrace 476 00:22:56,709 --> 00:22:59,295 [Downey Sr.] "Robert Downey makes vile movies." 477 00:23:00,130 --> 00:23:02,674 Life magazine. Oh, really? 478 00:23:05,218 --> 00:23:08,054 -[producer] What'd you make of that? -[Downey Sr.] That sounds all right. 479 00:23:08,972 --> 00:23:10,598 And this, did you get that one? 480 00:23:10,682 --> 00:23:13,810 [producer] Putney Swope was inducted into the Library of Congress? 481 00:23:13,893 --> 00:23:17,730 That was wild that that film got in there. That's usually Hollywood films. 482 00:23:18,857 --> 00:23:20,483 [Downey Jr.] What did that mean to you 483 00:23:20,567 --> 00:23:24,696 when you started getting the approval of the filmmakers 484 00:23:24,779 --> 00:23:29,367 that were, for lack of a better word, important in that generation? 485 00:23:29,451 --> 00:23:31,911 That must have meant something. 486 00:23:31,995 --> 00:23:34,289 Yeah, it meant that I could do another film. 487 00:23:34,372 --> 00:23:39,461 Kinda like you belonged and you were being validated in some way? 488 00:23:39,544 --> 00:23:42,338 Well, that's a pretty interesting theory. 489 00:23:42,422 --> 00:23:44,507 [laughing] 490 00:23:44,591 --> 00:23:45,967 Nice deflection. 491 00:23:46,551 --> 00:23:47,677 [laughing] 492 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,055 He knows that I'm attempting to understand something 493 00:23:51,139 --> 00:23:53,016 and that I'm turning a camera on him. 494 00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:58,271 What he's trying to do is turn the camera onto what it is he's trying to say. 495 00:23:59,063 --> 00:24:00,982 What that is remains to be seen. 496 00:24:03,193 --> 00:24:05,653 What a bay over here, my God. 497 00:24:05,737 --> 00:24:08,031 It's beginning to look like Rockaway. 498 00:24:09,532 --> 00:24:12,785 ["Besame Mucho" by Artie Shaw and His Gramercy Five playing] 499 00:24:12,869 --> 00:24:14,746 [producer] Bob, why did you wanna come out here? 500 00:24:14,829 --> 00:24:17,874 When I was 15, I used to come here in the summer. 501 00:24:19,417 --> 00:24:22,086 It was known as the last stop on the subway. 502 00:24:23,379 --> 00:24:25,340 Oh my God, you've gotta get that. 503 00:24:30,512 --> 00:24:31,638 This is great. 504 00:24:33,515 --> 00:24:35,517 [song continues] 505 00:24:36,142 --> 00:24:37,560 Boy, that was wild. 506 00:24:37,644 --> 00:24:39,145 [woman] Can we say "cheese"? 507 00:24:40,271 --> 00:24:42,273 [both laughing] 508 00:24:43,942 --> 00:24:45,109 My friend. 509 00:24:46,152 --> 00:24:48,780 My nutty friend. [laughing] 510 00:24:48,863 --> 00:24:50,365 [woman] How long you guys been married? 511 00:24:50,865 --> 00:24:51,991 Fifteen hundred years. 512 00:24:52,075 --> 00:24:53,868 [women laughing] 513 00:24:54,494 --> 00:24:57,622 [producer] Do you ever feel like you're living in one of your films? 514 00:24:57,705 --> 00:24:58,831 Right now. 515 00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:02,252 [laughing] 516 00:25:02,335 --> 00:25:04,045 [producer] Were your films this loose? 517 00:25:04,128 --> 00:25:07,257 Sometimes, yeah. But this has been the freest. 518 00:25:08,132 --> 00:25:09,092 Yeah. 519 00:25:09,175 --> 00:25:11,970 Everything turns into everything sooner or later. 520 00:25:12,053 --> 00:25:15,598 Things will turn into something else, which turns into something else. 521 00:25:15,682 --> 00:25:18,268 And then something doesn't work. You throw that out. 522 00:25:18,768 --> 00:25:20,270 It's called "follow the film." 523 00:25:20,353 --> 00:25:21,896 ["Summertime" by Charles Mingus playing] 524 00:25:21,980 --> 00:25:25,275 I still feel, on some level, like he's fucking with us. 525 00:25:26,150 --> 00:25:32,073 He knows that there's a bit of interplay between capturing a story about him 526 00:25:32,156 --> 00:25:35,702 and also him keeping himself interested in the process. 527 00:25:37,745 --> 00:25:38,955 And cut. 528 00:25:39,038 --> 00:25:41,916 Wow! No transition required. 529 00:25:42,542 --> 00:25:45,211 -[Downey Sr.] What's the difference? -I know what you're doing now. 530 00:25:45,295 --> 00:25:46,462 -[Downey Sr.] What? -I know. 531 00:25:46,546 --> 00:25:49,966 And because I believe he is connected 532 00:25:50,049 --> 00:25:53,928 to some sort of creative deity, 533 00:25:54,012 --> 00:25:57,223 my job is to figure out what it all means. 534 00:25:57,307 --> 00:25:59,017 [producer] What's this scene we're watching? 535 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:02,937 It's just, uh, the walk towards the, uh, door, 536 00:26:03,021 --> 00:26:04,731 the out… outdoor door. 537 00:26:06,065 --> 00:26:08,526 -[producer] How does it fit in the movie? -Who knows? 538 00:26:08,610 --> 00:26:11,738 [producer] You directed this one. What's the po-- What's the plan? 539 00:26:11,821 --> 00:26:14,407 [assistant] Yeah, your plan is what we need to hear. 540 00:26:15,825 --> 00:26:19,662 Uh, I think we should split into two camps, 541 00:26:19,746 --> 00:26:23,499 and both editing things are leading towards the same thing, 542 00:26:23,583 --> 00:26:25,126 the editing of this film. 543 00:26:25,209 --> 00:26:29,172 But you might get something out of one that you won't get with the other. 544 00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:32,425 I think I should rent an apartment in this building 545 00:26:32,508 --> 00:26:34,469 and get some equipment in here. 546 00:26:34,552 --> 00:26:35,678 Let's go. 547 00:26:35,762 --> 00:26:37,764 ["Modern People" by Roger Neill playing] 548 00:26:50,652 --> 00:26:53,905 [Downey Jr.] You like the idea of getting a shot of the gate opening, right? 549 00:26:53,988 --> 00:26:54,906 [Downey Sr.] If we can. 550 00:26:54,989 --> 00:26:57,408 [Downey Jr.] I think we can. We're gonna go down the road here. 551 00:26:57,909 --> 00:27:00,370 I'm taking you down the garden path, Father. 552 00:27:00,453 --> 00:27:01,454 [Downey Sr. laughing] 553 00:27:02,038 --> 00:27:04,082 And the farther away you are, the better. 554 00:27:04,165 --> 00:27:05,625 [Downey Jr. laughing] 555 00:27:05,708 --> 00:27:08,419 [producer] Did you guys… Did you take a road trip together? 556 00:27:08,503 --> 00:27:11,130 [Downey Sr.] Yeah, across the country once. 557 00:27:11,214 --> 00:27:14,133 -From Santa Fe down to LA. -[producer] Yeah. 558 00:27:14,634 --> 00:27:15,760 What was that like? 559 00:27:15,843 --> 00:27:17,512 I was in charge of the hash pipe. 560 00:27:18,054 --> 00:27:19,555 [Downey Sr. laughing] 561 00:27:19,639 --> 00:27:20,723 That was interesting. 562 00:27:22,016 --> 00:27:24,435 I don't know if it belongs here, but I like it. 563 00:27:25,937 --> 00:27:28,773 [Downey Jr.] Uh, we need a Jack Nitzsche cue right here. 564 00:27:29,649 --> 00:27:32,068 [Downey Jr. vocalizing "Rumble" by Jack Nitzsche] 565 00:27:38,241 --> 00:27:41,452 [producer] So, from that, would you go into one of your films? 566 00:27:41,953 --> 00:27:45,915 We could, or we could stick with this a little longer. 567 00:27:45,998 --> 00:27:48,334 ["Rumble" by Jack Nitzsche playing] 568 00:27:51,087 --> 00:27:53,631 -[Downey Jr.] Don't go too fast. -[Downey Sr.] Whoa, wait a minute. 569 00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:57,135 -[Downey Jr. laughing] -[Downey Sr.] Wait a minute. Jesus. 570 00:27:58,261 --> 00:28:00,972 [Downey Jr.] His cut is very much a work in progress. 571 00:28:01,055 --> 00:28:03,015 It is not all that linear. 572 00:28:03,516 --> 00:28:06,477 It's like if you give a director no deadline 573 00:28:06,561 --> 00:28:09,105 for when his project is supposed to be finished 574 00:28:09,188 --> 00:28:12,066 or really any narrative for what it should be to begin with, 575 00:28:12,150 --> 00:28:14,986 it can be a little, uh, kooky. 576 00:28:15,069 --> 00:28:19,240 [narrator] Fourth floor. Solarium, aquarium, sanitarium, 577 00:28:19,323 --> 00:28:22,785 drunk tank, celebrities, children's diseases, going up. 578 00:28:23,536 --> 00:28:27,039 [Anderson] Bob doesn't seem to be that worried about confusing the audience. 579 00:28:27,123 --> 00:28:28,458 -Um… -[crowd laughing] 580 00:28:28,541 --> 00:28:30,001 [Anderson] And that's why it's great. 581 00:28:30,084 --> 00:28:32,670 There is a kind of pattern to the way that he does things 582 00:28:32,754 --> 00:28:35,006 and that you either get with or you don't. 583 00:28:35,089 --> 00:28:37,592 But, man, I'm, like, you know, smitten with it. 584 00:28:37,675 --> 00:28:39,802 [Downey Sr.] You know, Paul, he loves films 585 00:28:39,886 --> 00:28:41,971 more than most people I run into. 586 00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:45,767 When I met him, I couldn't believe he knew the '60s more than I know. 587 00:28:45,850 --> 00:28:47,393 And he's a wonderful writer. 588 00:28:47,477 --> 00:28:48,311 Action. 589 00:28:48,394 --> 00:28:51,856 Come on, come one, come on! All right? All we need is the tapes, Burt. 590 00:28:52,398 --> 00:28:53,232 No. 591 00:28:53,316 --> 00:28:57,570 He asked me to pop in one day and fuck around on camera, and I did that. 592 00:28:57,653 --> 00:28:59,989 We can't pay the price of the demo tapes 593 00:29:00,072 --> 00:29:03,534 unless we take the demo tapes to the record company and get paid. 594 00:29:03,618 --> 00:29:04,952 Hello? Exactly! 595 00:29:06,037 --> 00:29:08,873 That's not an MP. That's a YP, 596 00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:10,291 your problem! 597 00:29:10,374 --> 00:29:13,878 I had fun with Paul Anderson, doing it. That was fun. 598 00:29:14,378 --> 00:29:16,672 It's no mystery that Paul Thomas Anderson 599 00:29:16,756 --> 00:29:19,300 is probably the son my dad wishes he had had, 600 00:29:19,801 --> 00:29:21,594 and they like to rub that in my face. 601 00:29:21,677 --> 00:29:23,679 ["Pound Score" by Charley Cuva playing] 602 00:29:26,516 --> 00:29:28,226 [Downey Sr.] Paul says something something, 603 00:29:28,309 --> 00:29:30,686 and I said, "I gotta get out of here. I gotta go to my train." 604 00:29:30,770 --> 00:29:32,897 And he said, "I'm coming with you." And I said, "What?" 605 00:29:35,608 --> 00:29:38,027 [producer] Was this for a documentary or… 606 00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:40,530 [Downey Sr.] You never know with him what he's doing. 607 00:29:41,030 --> 00:29:42,865 He might have been doing something like that. 608 00:29:42,949 --> 00:29:44,659 I haven't heard about it since. 609 00:29:46,369 --> 00:29:48,454 [Anderson] Let me get another battery before we go up. 610 00:29:48,538 --> 00:29:49,705 For my pacemaker? 611 00:29:49,789 --> 00:29:50,957 [Anderson laughing] 612 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,461 [laughing] 613 00:29:55,545 --> 00:29:58,589 [Anderson] I mean, if you hang around with Bob to get to know Bob, 614 00:29:58,673 --> 00:30:00,967 he's got the most fantastic sense of humor, 615 00:30:01,050 --> 00:30:04,053 and he just has this incredible confidence 616 00:30:04,136 --> 00:30:07,348 to just commit to his rhythm of telling a story. 617 00:30:07,932 --> 00:30:11,060 And so, as another filmmaker, it's invigorating. 618 00:30:11,143 --> 00:30:13,271 And it reminds you, like, to have that confidence, 619 00:30:13,354 --> 00:30:14,981 to have that trust in yourself. 620 00:30:15,940 --> 00:30:18,901 It's hard to walk, never mind hold the camera. 621 00:30:19,485 --> 00:30:23,197 [Downey Jr.] Dad used to take the train. Last ride you did was with PTA? 622 00:30:23,281 --> 00:30:26,409 But since, none, and no flying. 623 00:30:26,492 --> 00:30:29,579 [Downey Sr.] Yeah, I don't fly anywhere. I'm paranoid. 624 00:30:29,662 --> 00:30:33,124 [Lear] He was sensitive to the train. 625 00:30:33,207 --> 00:30:35,334 He was sensitive to getting on and off the train. 626 00:30:35,418 --> 00:30:38,296 [chuckles] He was sensitive to weather. 627 00:30:38,379 --> 00:30:40,089 [Downey Jr.] Are elevators still a problem? 628 00:30:40,172 --> 00:30:41,299 [Downey Sr.] Oh yeah. 629 00:30:43,426 --> 00:30:45,469 -That's some… Don't… -[producer] Oh shit. 630 00:30:46,137 --> 00:30:49,348 I told you I was stuck in here for an hour and a half one night, 631 00:30:49,432 --> 00:30:50,766 and I couldn't get out. 632 00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:53,561 There was a Russian guy on the elevator. 633 00:30:53,644 --> 00:30:57,148 Kept saying, "Are we gonna be all right?" I said, "How the fuck do I know?" 634 00:30:57,648 --> 00:30:59,483 [song continues] 635 00:31:00,067 --> 00:31:02,445 [Downey Jr.] Do you think all these neuroses, ultimately, 636 00:31:02,528 --> 00:31:06,407 are part and parcel to creativity, or do you think they're just a drag? 637 00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:08,284 -Little of both. -Yeah. 638 00:31:09,702 --> 00:31:12,371 -I think we have some new characters. -[Anderson] Yeah. 639 00:31:12,455 --> 00:31:15,708 The hour before the crash landing, it was scary. 640 00:31:15,791 --> 00:31:17,627 Not the landing. We… we made it. 641 00:31:17,710 --> 00:31:19,837 But ever since then, I haven't been able to face it. 642 00:31:19,921 --> 00:31:21,422 [Anderson] So what are the chances you're gonna get 643 00:31:21,505 --> 00:31:22,882 in two plane crashes in your life? 644 00:31:22,965 --> 00:31:24,383 I'll never find out. 645 00:31:24,467 --> 00:31:25,468 I'm too scared. 646 00:31:26,594 --> 00:31:28,054 That crash landing, 647 00:31:28,554 --> 00:31:30,932 that… that happened when I was in the army. 648 00:31:31,015 --> 00:31:32,642 ["The Last Race" by Jack Nitzsche playing] 649 00:31:32,725 --> 00:31:35,519 We were on a C-47, which is a two-engine plane. 650 00:31:36,020 --> 00:31:40,232 And about an hour or so in, one of the engines stopped. 651 00:31:41,233 --> 00:31:43,027 And a lot of us were really young. 652 00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:46,781 Every time we'd see something coming close to the window in the plane, 653 00:31:46,864 --> 00:31:50,493 it looked like the end. It was a tree or something else. 654 00:31:50,576 --> 00:31:53,329 And finally, this sergeant guy started saying, 655 00:31:53,412 --> 00:31:55,998 "I don't wanna die. I don't wanna die. I don't wanna die." 656 00:31:56,082 --> 00:31:58,960 And we're looking at him, like, "Are you fucking nuts?" 657 00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:01,754 "You're supposed to be helping us." 658 00:32:02,755 --> 00:32:05,341 Anyway, the plane landed, crash-landed. 659 00:32:05,424 --> 00:32:08,803 Nobody died. Nobody got hurt. Just banged up a little. 660 00:32:08,886 --> 00:32:12,306 He walks off the plane like nothing's wrong. 661 00:32:12,390 --> 00:32:14,809 We started calling him every name in the book. 662 00:32:15,393 --> 00:32:18,604 So he got a hold of me and put me in the stockade. [laughs] 663 00:32:19,271 --> 00:32:20,898 [producer] Were you always a troublemaker? 664 00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:21,983 Yes. 665 00:32:22,566 --> 00:32:25,861 [producer] And so why did you think going in the army would be a good idea? 666 00:32:25,945 --> 00:32:27,154 Who knows? 667 00:32:28,489 --> 00:32:31,784 I used my stepfather's name to go in the army underage 668 00:32:31,867 --> 00:32:34,453 with a fake birth certificate. Downey. 669 00:32:35,037 --> 00:32:41,502 Elias is the actual blood name of both my dad, Robert Elias, 670 00:32:41,585 --> 00:32:45,965 my dad's dad, my grandfather, also Robert Elias. 671 00:32:46,048 --> 00:32:50,094 He changed it because, when he joined the army underage, 672 00:32:50,594 --> 00:32:55,933 he did not feel that having a Jewish-sounding last name would be good, 673 00:32:56,017 --> 00:32:58,185 whereas an Irish last name should be fine. 674 00:32:58,686 --> 00:33:01,022 You spent a little time in the stockade here and there 675 00:33:01,105 --> 00:33:02,690 'cause you can't stay out of trouble. 676 00:33:02,773 --> 00:33:04,817 What would you call that chapter? 677 00:33:05,401 --> 00:33:06,569 [Downey Sr.] "The Beginning." 678 00:33:07,153 --> 00:33:09,155 -[Downey Jr.] Really? -Yeah. 679 00:33:09,238 --> 00:33:10,448 Tell me why. 680 00:33:10,948 --> 00:33:13,159 [Downey Sr.] The boss in the stockade said, 681 00:33:13,242 --> 00:33:14,410 "Don't just sit around here." 682 00:33:14,493 --> 00:33:15,661 -"Do something." -Yeah. 683 00:33:15,745 --> 00:33:18,914 [Downey Sr.] And he said, "Here, take this pad and write something down." 684 00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:19,832 Wow. 685 00:33:19,915 --> 00:33:23,627 So I just started scribbling, and suddenly, some of it made sense. 686 00:33:23,711 --> 00:33:27,214 A random act of kindness from your jailer. 687 00:33:27,882 --> 00:33:29,091 You started writing. 688 00:33:29,175 --> 00:33:30,926 Yeah, that's right. 689 00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:35,306 [Downey Jr.] Did any of that wind up being the beginnings of any of your early work? 690 00:33:35,389 --> 00:33:36,223 Yeah. 691 00:33:36,974 --> 00:33:38,350 I had no idea. 692 00:33:39,268 --> 00:33:41,270 ["Pound Score" by Charley Cuva playing] 693 00:33:44,982 --> 00:33:46,650 Why do I have to die? 694 00:33:49,945 --> 00:33:51,614 I never hurt anybody. 695 00:33:52,573 --> 00:33:55,910 [Downey Jr.] In Pound, there was definitely 696 00:33:55,993 --> 00:33:58,954 a more dramatic backdrop. 697 00:33:59,038 --> 00:34:03,542 [Downey Sr.] Yeah. Eighteen dogs waiting in a pound, 698 00:34:03,626 --> 00:34:05,503 and they have an hour to live. 699 00:34:06,128 --> 00:34:10,257 [Downey Jr.] If people are playing dogs, then really the movie is about people. 700 00:34:10,758 --> 00:34:13,344 Me, him, and Fido are gonna bust out of here. 701 00:34:13,427 --> 00:34:14,428 Who's joining me? 702 00:34:15,012 --> 00:34:18,015 [Downey Jr.] It had a lot of tension in it too, which was great. 703 00:34:18,099 --> 00:34:19,433 [Downey Sr.] In hindsight, 704 00:34:19,517 --> 00:34:22,311 turned out that it was much better than I thought it was. 705 00:34:22,394 --> 00:34:25,439 Seeing as how Pound was my official debut, 706 00:34:25,523 --> 00:34:28,400 I think it's your most underrated of all. 707 00:34:28,484 --> 00:34:30,277 [Downey Sr. laughing] 708 00:34:30,361 --> 00:34:33,030 ["Score from Pound 'Lame Mutha'" by Charley Cuva playing] 709 00:34:33,114 --> 00:34:35,116 ♪ Don't ya say hello ♪ 710 00:34:36,075 --> 00:34:37,409 ♪ Hello… ♪ 711 00:34:37,493 --> 00:34:39,954 [interviewer] Is this the picture Bobby Jr. made his debut in? 712 00:34:40,037 --> 00:34:41,205 [Downey Sr.] That's right. 713 00:34:42,123 --> 00:34:45,835 -[Interviewer] At the age of what? A baby? -[Downey Sr.] Let's see. It was 1970. 714 00:34:45,918 --> 00:34:48,754 So… five. 715 00:34:48,838 --> 00:34:52,675 I… I think we asked him to do the part 'cause we couldn't get a babysitter, 716 00:34:52,758 --> 00:34:54,802 and we knew that part was coming up. 717 00:34:54,885 --> 00:34:57,263 And we, uh, summoned him. It was easy. 718 00:34:57,346 --> 00:35:00,724 That tornado scared me so much, it made my hair disappear. 719 00:35:01,350 --> 00:35:03,144 Have any hair on your balls? 720 00:35:03,644 --> 00:35:04,979 I'm afraid to look. 721 00:35:05,062 --> 00:35:07,731 I didn't know what the line meant, that I was asked to say, 722 00:35:07,815 --> 00:35:09,775 which is, "Got any hair on your balls?" 723 00:35:10,317 --> 00:35:12,903 -Oh, to the bald guy. Bald-headed dog. -To the bald guy. 724 00:35:12,987 --> 00:35:15,406 -He was playing a Mexican hairless, right? -Yeah, yeah. 725 00:35:15,489 --> 00:35:18,701 He seemed a little shy when he said it. It almost… But it worked beautifully. 726 00:35:18,784 --> 00:35:21,203 You know, there was no need for a second take. 727 00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:22,371 [man] Gimme that. 728 00:35:22,454 --> 00:35:26,417 [producer] When you first put Robert on screen, did you recognize that he was… 729 00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:27,835 [Downey Sr.] Everybody did. 730 00:35:27,918 --> 00:35:30,921 Everybody was saying to me, "Oh, where'd you get this guy?" 731 00:35:31,505 --> 00:35:33,841 It's that first time that's everything. 732 00:35:33,924 --> 00:35:36,177 You could tell that he knew what he was doing. 733 00:35:37,011 --> 00:35:40,222 He didn't need my help. He was possessed. 734 00:35:40,306 --> 00:35:42,641 He was tap dancing in the driveway out there, 735 00:35:42,725 --> 00:35:45,811 and subconsciously, I knew he never had to go to school. 736 00:35:45,895 --> 00:35:47,521 This guy's gonna be an actor. 737 00:35:48,397 --> 00:35:52,776 [Downey Jr.] When I saw cameras, I perceived it as it's time with my dad. 738 00:35:53,569 --> 00:35:56,280 Sometimes, like, I… He would be walking by, 739 00:35:56,363 --> 00:35:59,408 and he went out and grabbed the camera and said, "Don't move." [laughs] 740 00:35:59,491 --> 00:36:00,618 I was like, "Whoa!" 741 00:36:01,243 --> 00:36:04,622 ["Two Tons of Turquoise to Taos Tonight Score" by Nitzsche/Sanborn/Arica playing] 742 00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:08,709 [Downey Jr.] It probably felt to me what it felt like to Exton, 743 00:36:08,792 --> 00:36:13,005 running around in the background and hosing me down with pool water 744 00:36:13,088 --> 00:36:15,674 and, you know, asking, 745 00:36:15,758 --> 00:36:17,968 "Are we shooting the movie again tomorrow?" 746 00:36:18,552 --> 00:36:21,931 [Downey Sr.] That's Robert and his sister fighting in the kitchen. 747 00:36:23,390 --> 00:36:26,352 I was just there with the camera on the other end of the thing, 748 00:36:26,435 --> 00:36:29,230 just thinking of nothing, and this broke out. 749 00:36:30,856 --> 00:36:32,650 [producer] How was Sr. as a father? 750 00:36:32,733 --> 00:36:33,734 Um, 751 00:36:34,276 --> 00:36:38,822 complicated in that most of his attention 752 00:36:38,906 --> 00:36:42,409 was on the process of chasing the muse. 753 00:36:43,077 --> 00:36:47,456 I knew that we were not like the other families. 754 00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:50,626 I used to like to take him to films that I thought would be interesting 755 00:36:50,709 --> 00:36:52,795 and not think about, "He's a kid." 756 00:36:52,878 --> 00:36:55,839 In fact, they wouldn't let me into a film-- 757 00:36:55,923 --> 00:36:58,133 Oh, La Grande Bouffe. 758 00:36:58,217 --> 00:36:59,969 ["Petite Chanson De L'amour" playing] 759 00:37:00,052 --> 00:37:02,763 [Downey Sr.] Four guys in Italy get together every year 760 00:37:02,846 --> 00:37:04,473 and start feeding each other. 761 00:37:04,556 --> 00:37:07,476 It gets so out of control. It's disgusting. 762 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:11,105 I forgot that Robert was with me, and I went to go see it, 763 00:37:11,188 --> 00:37:14,108 and the person taking tickets says, "He can't come in." 764 00:37:14,191 --> 00:37:15,693 "This is X-rated." 765 00:37:15,776 --> 00:37:16,902 I said, "Come on." 766 00:37:16,986 --> 00:37:18,904 So I called the distributor, 767 00:37:18,988 --> 00:37:21,949 and he says, "Put that guy on. How dare he." 768 00:37:22,032 --> 00:37:23,784 Blah blah blah blah blah. 769 00:37:23,867 --> 00:37:28,247 And the ticket-taker takes the call and says, "You can go in now." [laughing] 770 00:37:28,330 --> 00:37:30,916 I'll put it this way, we weren't watching Fantasia. 771 00:37:33,669 --> 00:37:36,213 [Downey Sr.] In fact, I took him to see The Harder They Come. 772 00:37:36,297 --> 00:37:38,424 [reggae music playing] 773 00:37:38,507 --> 00:37:40,718 [Downey Sr.] We went in, and it was raining that day, 774 00:37:40,801 --> 00:37:42,928 so there were leaks in the theater. 775 00:37:43,012 --> 00:37:45,180 And we were sitting on the back of the seats. 776 00:37:45,764 --> 00:37:48,142 And when we left there, we said, "Wow." 777 00:37:48,642 --> 00:37:51,145 "There was nobody else in the theater but us." 778 00:37:51,228 --> 00:37:53,439 And that, somehow, made it even better. 779 00:37:53,522 --> 00:37:58,319 I remember a lot of theaters that were greasy and weird, 780 00:37:58,402 --> 00:38:02,823 but it was this idea that films kind of brought us together 781 00:38:03,407 --> 00:38:05,451 and, to this day, still do. 782 00:38:06,118 --> 00:38:07,786 [Downey Sr.] I got… I got plenty of that. 783 00:38:07,870 --> 00:38:10,247 Let's see if he doesn't hang himself on his sound wire first. 784 00:38:10,331 --> 00:38:11,665 [Downey Sr. laughing] 785 00:38:11,749 --> 00:38:14,084 Do you mind if we show the crew in the documentary? 786 00:38:14,168 --> 00:38:16,378 -Not at all. -[Downey Jr.] How come? 787 00:38:16,462 --> 00:38:19,631 Because it lets everybody know we know what we're doing. 788 00:38:19,715 --> 00:38:20,549 Right. 789 00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:23,594 They might not like it, but we know what we're doing. Yeah. 790 00:38:23,677 --> 00:38:25,804 It's pretty clear we know what we're doing here, right? 791 00:38:25,888 --> 00:38:27,723 We have to know something. 792 00:38:28,515 --> 00:38:33,896 Here's where we can talk about, uh, three generations of, um… 793 00:38:33,979 --> 00:38:35,064 Bug jobs. 794 00:38:35,147 --> 00:38:36,440 Of bug jobs. 795 00:38:36,523 --> 00:38:40,152 What is it that I say to you when you're getting on my nerves? 796 00:38:40,235 --> 00:38:42,613 Hey, hey, don't be a bug job. 797 00:38:42,696 --> 00:38:43,864 [Downey Jr. and Sr. laughing] 798 00:38:43,947 --> 00:38:47,368 -And that comes from Dad telling me. -Don't be a bug job. Hey! 799 00:38:47,451 --> 00:38:51,330 For the very first time, you tell Pop to not be a bug job. 800 00:38:51,413 --> 00:38:52,414 -Hey! -Mean it. 801 00:38:52,498 --> 00:38:54,917 -Hey, don't be a bug job. -There it is. 802 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,086 -You don't be a bug job. -[Exton giggling] 803 00:38:57,169 --> 00:38:58,587 What we're gonna do is we're all… 804 00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:01,840 the three of us are gonna have a quick espresso. 805 00:39:01,924 --> 00:39:02,925 [Exton] I… I drink coffee. 806 00:39:03,008 --> 00:39:05,886 You can have a little sip of mine, but don't tell Mom. 807 00:39:05,969 --> 00:39:06,845 [laughing] 808 00:39:06,929 --> 00:39:08,222 [Exton] I never tell Mom. 809 00:39:08,722 --> 00:39:10,682 [continues laughing] 810 00:39:13,435 --> 00:39:14,645 [Downey Jr.] Here's a good one. 811 00:39:16,021 --> 00:39:20,234 Sr. as I remember him circa 1971. 812 00:39:20,943 --> 00:39:23,237 So I would be Exton's age. 813 00:39:23,987 --> 00:39:25,948 That's Pop, and that's my mom, Elsie. 814 00:39:26,782 --> 00:39:28,367 And then that was another take. 815 00:39:29,660 --> 00:39:31,286 This is from Greaser's. 816 00:39:31,787 --> 00:39:33,580 That's from Greaser's Palace, yeah. 817 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,418 Most holy one, let me see. 818 00:39:37,501 --> 00:39:39,962 Messiah. Messiah. 819 00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:41,463 If you feel, you heal. 820 00:39:42,089 --> 00:39:44,550 ["Stranger on the Shore" by Jack Nitzsche playing] 821 00:39:48,262 --> 00:39:50,389 [man on ground] I can crawl again! 822 00:39:50,472 --> 00:39:52,307 I can crawl again! 823 00:39:52,975 --> 00:39:55,227 [producer] What was the genesis of Greaser's? 824 00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:58,188 [Downey Sr.] Well, this lady wanted me to make a movie. 825 00:39:58,272 --> 00:39:59,565 She said, "What do you wanna do?" 826 00:39:59,648 --> 00:40:02,067 I said, "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost pop into a Western." 827 00:40:02,151 --> 00:40:03,318 She said, "Fine. Go write it." 828 00:40:03,402 --> 00:40:06,029 She gave it to her husband, who had a lot of money. 829 00:40:06,113 --> 00:40:09,366 He read it, and he said to me, "Is this gonna make any money?" 830 00:40:09,450 --> 00:40:11,785 I said, "I don't think so," and he said to his wife, 831 00:40:11,869 --> 00:40:13,745 "He's charming. Give him the money." 832 00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:17,624 At least he was honest about what he really was thinking. 833 00:40:17,708 --> 00:40:23,088 It didn't look like a Christ figure parachuting into a Western 834 00:40:23,172 --> 00:40:24,798 is gonna make a dime. [chuckles] 835 00:40:25,424 --> 00:40:29,052 [Downey Jr.] This time you got to really take advantage of the landscape. 836 00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:32,222 The cinematography starts getting pretty lush, 837 00:40:32,306 --> 00:40:35,267 and you have stunts, you have wagon wheels, 838 00:40:35,350 --> 00:40:38,061 and you literally built Greaser's Palace 839 00:40:38,145 --> 00:40:39,563 and then blew it up. 840 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,693 [song continues] 841 00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:49,615 Do not make us doubt and speculate. Say to us why you are here. 842 00:40:50,866 --> 00:40:54,328 [Downey Jr.] I know you like leaving the meaning up to the audience, 843 00:40:54,411 --> 00:40:58,624 but there's deep, deep, deep spiritual messaging 844 00:40:58,707 --> 00:40:59,666 in that movie 845 00:41:00,167 --> 00:41:03,754 that even as a grown-ass man, I'm still trying to figure out. 846 00:41:04,338 --> 00:41:06,548 -I'm glad you said it. -[Downey Jr. laughing] 847 00:41:06,632 --> 00:41:09,009 [both laughing] 848 00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:12,221 [song fades] 849 00:41:12,304 --> 00:41:14,014 [Nancy] Bob, how are you? 850 00:41:15,849 --> 00:41:16,850 I'm all right. 851 00:41:23,482 --> 00:41:27,277 [producer] We know him as a provocateur and stirring the pot with his films, 852 00:41:27,361 --> 00:41:31,156 but is there something surprising, as a sister, your take on him? 853 00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:34,785 I always say that he's an innocent to me. He's an innocent. 854 00:41:36,328 --> 00:41:38,247 -That's a new one. [chuckles] -And a purist. 855 00:41:38,330 --> 00:41:40,415 -It's good. -No, it's true. You are. 856 00:41:40,999 --> 00:41:42,459 Even as a person, you are. 857 00:41:43,085 --> 00:41:47,798 He's irreverent in his humor, but he reveals so much. He's so honest. 858 00:41:48,674 --> 00:41:49,841 Give me a hug. 859 00:41:51,552 --> 00:41:53,303 -[both kissing] -[Nancy chuckles] 860 00:41:53,387 --> 00:41:54,805 [both] Mmm. 861 00:41:54,888 --> 00:41:56,807 [producer] When you saw Robert Jr., 862 00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:59,017 did you see similarities in father and son? 863 00:41:59,101 --> 00:42:00,310 [Nancy] Oh yes. 864 00:42:00,394 --> 00:42:03,438 [producer] You know, I feel like Robert got a lot of his humor from his dad. 865 00:42:03,522 --> 00:42:06,692 Yes, but also, his mom was a riot. 866 00:42:07,442 --> 00:42:08,986 ["Pound Score" by Charley Cuva playing] 867 00:42:09,069 --> 00:42:10,445 How are ya doin'? 868 00:42:11,196 --> 00:42:13,198 [man] Are you the Virgin Mary? 869 00:42:14,491 --> 00:42:15,826 Just call me Mary. 870 00:42:17,786 --> 00:42:20,706 [Wolf] Elsie Downey was a great actress, 871 00:42:20,789 --> 00:42:23,917 who could have done incredible things on her own, 872 00:42:24,418 --> 00:42:26,962 but chose to work with her husband. 873 00:42:27,838 --> 00:42:31,300 She was extremely talented, lovable. 874 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,720 The sweetest person you'd ever wanna meet. 875 00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:37,139 The only thing about these low-budget films 876 00:42:37,222 --> 00:42:39,641 is that all the action is behind the camera. 877 00:42:40,267 --> 00:42:42,519 [producer] With Elsie, was it clear right away 878 00:42:42,603 --> 00:42:45,564 that, "Hey, we're gonna actually make these films together"? 879 00:42:45,647 --> 00:42:48,483 No, I met her way before I made films. 880 00:42:48,567 --> 00:42:51,194 Just off-off-Broadway plays. 881 00:42:51,278 --> 00:42:53,488 [Nancy] When they met, it was like… 882 00:42:53,572 --> 00:42:55,449 [mimics explosion] It was over. 883 00:42:55,532 --> 00:42:57,576 They were just… they got each other. 884 00:42:57,659 --> 00:43:00,245 They would laugh. They would have us laughing. 885 00:43:00,329 --> 00:43:03,206 I mean, she was just such a natural comedian. 886 00:43:03,290 --> 00:43:05,667 So for Robert, coming from this couple, 887 00:43:07,169 --> 00:43:10,005 he had to be who he was. 888 00:43:10,088 --> 00:43:12,841 [producer] Did you feel like you learned from your mom as an actor? 889 00:43:12,924 --> 00:43:14,593 Pretty much everything, yeah. 890 00:43:15,969 --> 00:43:18,347 Seeing her being directed by Dad, 891 00:43:18,930 --> 00:43:21,892 she was wildly devoted 892 00:43:21,975 --> 00:43:26,855 to whatever creative stream of silliness he was onto. 893 00:43:28,231 --> 00:43:30,651 And I remember when we were doing Greaser's Palace, 894 00:43:30,734 --> 00:43:34,112 like, she was climbing up these sand dunes over and over again. 895 00:43:34,196 --> 00:43:37,449 She had no problem doing something that's exacting. 896 00:43:38,158 --> 00:43:40,786 -[producer] Did you put her in a lot? -Anything we could. 897 00:43:40,869 --> 00:43:44,289 'Cause she'd do anything. She'd try anything. She knew what to do. 898 00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:48,794 Oh, there's the moment when she discovers her son is dead. 899 00:43:48,877 --> 00:43:52,255 And that's Elsie as the mother in Greaser's Palace. 900 00:43:53,173 --> 00:43:55,092 She can't find her son, who's Robert. 901 00:43:55,175 --> 00:43:56,718 [sad music playing] 902 00:43:56,802 --> 00:44:00,931 [Downey Jr.] I played a boy who got his neck slit by God, 903 00:44:01,431 --> 00:44:02,974 whose mother finds him. 904 00:44:03,475 --> 00:44:06,687 [Downey Sr.] At the end of the film, he's brought to life again. 905 00:44:08,522 --> 00:44:11,858 And I think he was so excited to do a scene with his mom. 906 00:44:12,818 --> 00:44:14,695 [Downey Jr.] Greaser's, I had a lot of pride of 907 00:44:14,778 --> 00:44:16,738 'cause I was old enough to know I was in it, 908 00:44:16,822 --> 00:44:19,825 and I'm starting to feel like a little bit of a movie brat. 909 00:44:19,908 --> 00:44:20,992 [Downey Sr. laughing] 910 00:44:21,076 --> 00:44:22,452 And it was a good time. 911 00:44:22,536 --> 00:44:24,621 I mean, I wanna thank you. You got us out of town. 912 00:44:24,705 --> 00:44:26,498 [Downey Sr.] That was fun. That was fun. 913 00:44:26,581 --> 00:44:29,334 -[Downey Jr.] Was that a happy time? -[Downey Sr.] It was. 914 00:44:29,918 --> 00:44:31,795 And then it all fell apart. 915 00:44:34,089 --> 00:44:36,091 [sniffing loudly] 916 00:44:37,134 --> 00:44:38,093 [inhaling] 917 00:44:38,176 --> 00:44:39,302 [sniffing loudly] 918 00:44:39,803 --> 00:44:41,763 [woman] Whoo! Ah! 919 00:44:41,847 --> 00:44:44,182 [woman inhaling] Ah! 920 00:44:44,891 --> 00:44:46,935 I comes to a fork in the road… 921 00:44:47,018 --> 00:44:47,936 [woman laughs] 922 00:44:48,019 --> 00:44:49,813 …with a spoon in my nose. 923 00:44:49,896 --> 00:44:51,356 [woman laughing hysterically] 924 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,109 [producer] What advice would you have given yourself at that point? 925 00:44:54,192 --> 00:44:55,944 Don't touch drugs. 926 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,407 ["Two Tons of Turquoise to Taos Tonight Score" by Nitzsche/Sanborn/Arica playing] 927 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:09,332 I have a job for you. Two tons of turquoise to Taos tonight. 928 00:45:09,833 --> 00:45:12,210 [Downey Jr.] The title sequence 929 00:45:13,295 --> 00:45:16,882 looks almost like a heist-type thing. 930 00:45:16,965 --> 00:45:18,967 And all these characters are getting together, 931 00:45:19,050 --> 00:45:21,803 but one guy walks in wearing a full wet suit. 932 00:45:21,887 --> 00:45:23,972 As he's unhooking his weight belt, he goes… 933 00:45:24,556 --> 00:45:26,808 [Downey Jr. and actor] "What about Larry? He's into tacos." 934 00:45:26,892 --> 00:45:28,894 [Downey Jr.] And he snaps his belt open. 935 00:45:30,353 --> 00:45:32,898 It was trying to transcend 936 00:45:32,981 --> 00:45:35,692 even being something that people could say was a movie. 937 00:45:35,776 --> 00:45:38,862 ["Two Tons of Turquoise to Taos Tonight Score" by Nitzsche/Sanborn/Arica playing] 938 00:45:38,945 --> 00:45:43,575 You basically said that the plot was Sanborn's saxophone… 939 00:45:43,658 --> 00:45:47,245 [laughing] …which, to me, is so next level. 940 00:45:47,913 --> 00:45:50,290 -That's true. You do follow the sax. -Yeah. 941 00:45:50,373 --> 00:45:52,000 If you wanna hang on to something. 942 00:45:52,083 --> 00:45:55,253 [female narrator] Let your mind go. Let your body go. 943 00:45:55,337 --> 00:45:56,922 Let your wallet go. 944 00:45:57,589 --> 00:46:01,009 [Downey Sr.] On this one, it was such a weird, disconnected thing. 945 00:46:01,092 --> 00:46:03,595 I would maybe shoot for an hour and go home. 946 00:46:03,678 --> 00:46:07,641 You know, 'cause I was tired or fucked up or whatever. 947 00:46:07,724 --> 00:46:10,936 [Downey Jr.] I think the goal pattern was in a really weird place, 948 00:46:11,019 --> 00:46:13,772 and so maybe that was justifying the usage. 949 00:46:13,855 --> 00:46:17,025 My dad was down in the basement with his editor 950 00:46:17,108 --> 00:46:19,528 seemingly for two years, 951 00:46:19,611 --> 00:46:23,782 and I was like, "That seems like a long time on post." 952 00:46:23,865 --> 00:46:25,784 You know, we knew what was going on down there. 953 00:46:25,867 --> 00:46:28,662 [producer] Was that era fun? Was it a struggle? 954 00:46:28,745 --> 00:46:30,121 I was a drug addict. 955 00:46:30,622 --> 00:46:33,166 Mainly cocaine and, uh, marijuana. 956 00:46:34,209 --> 00:46:36,545 Total, total insanity. 957 00:46:36,628 --> 00:46:39,172 [laughing hysterically] 958 00:46:39,256 --> 00:46:40,131 All right! 959 00:46:40,715 --> 00:46:42,384 [Downey Jr.] I knew that the work 960 00:46:42,467 --> 00:46:45,720 had kind of started becoming more of an excuse. 961 00:46:45,804 --> 00:46:48,139 And then it wasn't but shortly after that 962 00:46:48,223 --> 00:46:50,433 that my folks broke up. 963 00:46:51,226 --> 00:46:52,561 [song ends with sax flourish] 964 00:46:52,644 --> 00:46:54,604 [Downey Sr.] Turn around. Wave goodbye at the door. 965 00:46:54,688 --> 00:46:57,774 You're all fucked up with your umbrella. Say goodbye, and go inside. Bye-bye. 966 00:46:57,858 --> 00:46:59,734 -[chuckling] [Elsie] Bye-bye. 967 00:47:01,361 --> 00:47:04,948 -[Downey Sr.] Have a nice nighty tonight. -[Elsie] Have a nice nighty tonight. 968 00:47:05,031 --> 00:47:07,158 Yeah, even though we split from each other, 969 00:47:07,242 --> 00:47:08,785 we spoke to each other a lot. 970 00:47:09,536 --> 00:47:10,954 [Downey Sr.] Good night. -[Elsie] Good night. 971 00:47:11,037 --> 00:47:13,790 -[Downey Sr.] And have a nice nighty. -Have a nice night-- Oh! 972 00:47:13,874 --> 00:47:15,917 -[Elsie laughing] -[Downey Sr. laughs while watching] 973 00:47:17,335 --> 00:47:19,629 Yeah, it does bring back big memories. 974 00:47:24,175 --> 00:47:25,135 [trainer] Deep breath. 975 00:47:26,177 --> 00:47:27,178 [inhales deeply] 976 00:47:28,805 --> 00:47:29,973 [exhales sharply] 977 00:47:30,765 --> 00:47:33,435 -[groans] -And reach. Reach backwards. 978 00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:36,479 And pull again. 979 00:47:37,063 --> 00:47:38,398 You're breathing, right? 980 00:47:38,899 --> 00:47:40,358 -I hope so. -[laughing] 981 00:47:40,901 --> 00:47:41,735 Yes. 982 00:47:42,235 --> 00:47:44,529 When I first came here, it was, like, a little tight. 983 00:47:44,613 --> 00:47:47,365 -Yeah, that's a good way of saying it. -[both laugh] 984 00:47:47,866 --> 00:47:49,534 [Jaime] We call on God a lot, right? 985 00:47:49,618 --> 00:47:52,579 Like, God this and, "Oh, God, one more squat." 986 00:47:52,662 --> 00:47:54,372 "Oh, God, another celery." 987 00:47:54,456 --> 00:47:55,624 It's really funny. 988 00:47:55,707 --> 00:47:59,127 -[Downey Sr.] Where is this guy? -[Jaime] We still haven't seen him. 989 00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:02,005 No, every time I read the front page of the Times, 990 00:48:02,088 --> 00:48:04,549 I say, "Where is this fucker?" 991 00:48:04,633 --> 00:48:05,759 [Jaime laughing] 992 00:48:05,842 --> 00:48:07,969 -[producer] That's pretty good. -It's great. 993 00:48:09,179 --> 00:48:11,890 [producer] Then where? We have freedom. 994 00:48:11,973 --> 00:48:15,894 Is there anything right wh… where you cut out? 995 00:48:15,977 --> 00:48:17,020 [producer] Here we have… 996 00:48:17,896 --> 00:48:22,442 Well, Robert must have thought something because he… he's a total workout guy. 997 00:48:23,234 --> 00:48:25,987 Maybe he thought, "I don't wanna end up like my father." 998 00:48:26,488 --> 00:48:30,450 -["Unfunky UFO" by Parliament playing] -That ain't bad. [laughs] That ain't bad. 999 00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:31,534 [producer] Add it? 1000 00:48:32,327 --> 00:48:33,328 Yeah. 1001 00:48:33,912 --> 00:48:38,541 ♪ You've got all that is really needed ♪ 1002 00:48:38,625 --> 00:48:43,129 ♪ To save a dying world From its funkless hell… ♪ 1003 00:48:43,630 --> 00:48:46,841 See, who knew we'd cross the bridge that I hadn't crossed today 1004 00:48:46,925 --> 00:48:50,428 because I thought I could get away without walking, and now look. 1005 00:48:51,262 --> 00:48:52,389 [laughing] 1006 00:48:52,931 --> 00:48:54,265 [producer] Do you love New York? 1007 00:48:54,349 --> 00:48:55,183 Oh yeah. 1008 00:48:55,684 --> 00:48:57,477 I get inspired here. 1009 00:48:57,978 --> 00:49:02,357 How do you make a film in Los Angeles? We've seen every possible shot. 1010 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,694 The same corner. The same freeway. 1011 00:49:05,777 --> 00:49:07,612 It's all different out here. 1012 00:49:08,530 --> 00:49:11,199 ♪ You've got all that… ♪ 1013 00:49:11,282 --> 00:49:12,492 Look at this over here. 1014 00:49:14,244 --> 00:49:15,662 [Downey Sr. laughing] 1015 00:49:16,329 --> 00:49:17,330 Jesus. 1016 00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:22,127 Look at the light now. My God, that's wild. 1017 00:49:23,294 --> 00:49:26,548 I guess this is crying out for a 360. 1018 00:49:30,093 --> 00:49:31,219 Wrong tripod. 1019 00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:34,806 The other good thing about any project in New York, 1020 00:49:34,889 --> 00:49:36,099 if you wanna go that way, 1021 00:49:36,182 --> 00:49:39,936 is to, once in a while, bring in the real sound we talked about. 1022 00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:42,063 -Turn it up. Don't say a word. -[song fades out] 1023 00:49:42,147 --> 00:49:43,398 Just happens. 1024 00:49:43,481 --> 00:49:45,025 [ship horn blaring] 1025 00:49:46,401 --> 00:49:47,610 [siren in distance] 1026 00:49:47,694 --> 00:49:48,695 [cars honking] 1027 00:49:50,155 --> 00:49:52,157 [siren continues] 1028 00:49:54,868 --> 00:49:56,494 [producer] Where do you go from there? 1029 00:49:57,078 --> 00:50:00,248 I'll look in here… [laughing] …and see if there's anything. 1030 00:50:01,166 --> 00:50:02,459 Maybe… We'll… we'll see. 1031 00:50:02,542 --> 00:50:06,463 Maybe, um, we break into the middle of Robert and me. 1032 00:50:07,172 --> 00:50:08,840 -[producer] Mm-hmm. -[Downey Sr.] Maybe. 1033 00:50:10,258 --> 00:50:11,551 [producer] Yeah, let's try it. 1034 00:50:11,634 --> 00:50:13,386 Hi, is this Dad? 1035 00:50:13,887 --> 00:50:14,888 [Downey Sr.] Yeah. 1036 00:50:14,971 --> 00:50:16,097 Is this Sonny? 1037 00:50:16,181 --> 00:50:17,807 [Downey Jr. laughing] This is Sonny Boy. 1038 00:50:17,891 --> 00:50:19,309 [Downey Sr. laughing] 1039 00:50:19,392 --> 00:50:20,226 Hey, man. 1040 00:50:20,310 --> 00:50:22,353 [Downey Sr.] So, what do we wanna talk about? 1041 00:50:22,437 --> 00:50:24,814 [Downey Jr.] Let's talk about LA today. 1042 00:50:25,482 --> 00:50:27,275 -Oh my God. -I'm sorry. 1043 00:50:27,358 --> 00:50:29,110 We're gonna do it all, baby. 1044 00:50:29,194 --> 00:50:30,278 Oh my God. 1045 00:50:30,361 --> 00:50:31,863 [Downey Jr. laughing] 1046 00:50:32,363 --> 00:50:34,949 ["Voices of Spring, Op. 410" playing] 1047 00:50:36,242 --> 00:50:38,620 [Downey Sr.] When you first get there and never been there, 1048 00:50:38,703 --> 00:50:41,748 it's kinda romantic because of all the literature. 1049 00:50:41,831 --> 00:50:44,918 But you soon find out it's a lot of lip service about, 1050 00:50:45,001 --> 00:50:47,879 "We really wanna make a film with you," and this and that. 1051 00:50:47,962 --> 00:50:50,757 "Let's see how it goes," and that kinda stuff. 1052 00:50:51,341 --> 00:50:54,677 The first question they ask you, usually, out there, when you make a film, 1053 00:50:54,761 --> 00:50:56,221 "You think it'll make money?" 1054 00:50:56,846 --> 00:51:00,183 You know, friends of mine would say, "You're doomed." 1055 00:51:00,266 --> 00:51:02,477 ["Diggin' In" by Harold Faltermeyer playing] 1056 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:03,812 [major] You're outcasts, 1057 00:51:03,895 --> 00:51:06,815 embarrassments to your families and your communities. 1058 00:51:07,816 --> 00:51:09,317 Disgraces. 1059 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,568 Something wrong with you, boy? 1060 00:51:10,652 --> 00:51:12,362 No, it's just a little chilly in here. 1061 00:51:12,445 --> 00:51:15,115 Don't you mean, "It's just a little chilly in here, sir"? 1062 00:51:15,198 --> 00:51:16,699 -[boy] Yes, sir. -Well, say it. 1063 00:51:16,783 --> 00:51:18,576 It's just a little chilly in here, sir. 1064 00:51:18,660 --> 00:51:21,079 -[major] Say it again. -It's just a little chilly in here, sir! 1065 00:51:21,162 --> 00:51:23,957 -Say it again. -It's just a little chilly in here, sir! 1066 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,792 That's what I thought you meant. 1067 00:51:25,875 --> 00:51:30,964 Was Up the Academy ostensibly the first studio movie you ever did? 1068 00:51:31,047 --> 00:51:33,133 [Downey Sr.] Yeah. Disaster. 1069 00:51:33,216 --> 00:51:35,593 And I was thinking, "Get me out of here." 1070 00:51:35,677 --> 00:51:37,262 Tell me everything. 1071 00:51:38,096 --> 00:51:41,432 [Downey Sr.] It was supposed to be a military academy for kids. 1072 00:51:41,975 --> 00:51:44,060 The script was about 16-year-olds. 1073 00:51:44,144 --> 00:51:47,355 It'd simply be more effective if they're ten years old. 1074 00:51:47,438 --> 00:51:50,316 He said, "All the kids should be kids. We shouldn't be casting teenagers." 1075 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,194 Now, that would have been a nightmare, and it was very impractical. 1076 00:51:53,278 --> 00:51:55,280 Was the studio gonna let it happen? No. 1077 00:51:55,363 --> 00:51:57,323 They said, "Are you insane?" 1078 00:51:57,407 --> 00:52:00,326 I said, "What do you mean? I just wanna change the ages." 1079 00:52:00,410 --> 00:52:02,412 "Well, you're not gonna do that around here." 1080 00:52:03,037 --> 00:52:07,167 I learned how to get along with people by doing what was asked of me. 1081 00:52:07,250 --> 00:52:08,918 No shit. 1082 00:52:09,502 --> 00:52:12,589 [Downey Jr.] Up to that point, he had kinda been protected. 1083 00:52:12,672 --> 00:52:14,048 People knew he was special, 1084 00:52:14,132 --> 00:52:16,926 and you wanted to help him do the next version of him. 1085 00:52:17,010 --> 00:52:20,597 And I think the one real studio-film experience he had, 1086 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,100 where the studio kinda tells you what you can and can't do, 1087 00:52:24,726 --> 00:52:27,145 if you're an artist, it's crushing. 1088 00:52:29,022 --> 00:52:31,941 And I think he thought, "Great, let's party." 1089 00:52:32,025 --> 00:52:34,944 You're gonna get the Robert Downey movie you deserve. 1090 00:52:36,196 --> 00:52:38,573 [Downey Sr.] Some guy said, "If you keep talking like this, 1091 00:52:38,656 --> 00:52:39,866 we're gonna fire you, 1092 00:52:39,949 --> 00:52:42,869 and you're not gonna get final cut no matter what happens." 1093 00:52:42,952 --> 00:52:45,872 I said, "Okay, that's fine by me, 1094 00:52:45,955 --> 00:52:48,750 just as long as I get final cut on the cocaine." 1095 00:52:50,084 --> 00:52:52,629 And that was almost the end of me out there. 1096 00:52:52,712 --> 00:52:53,671 [song fades] 1097 00:52:53,755 --> 00:52:57,508 -You did not give a mad fuck, did you? -No. 1098 00:52:58,176 --> 00:53:01,137 How would you describe that period of time? 1099 00:53:01,221 --> 00:53:05,016 [Downey Sr.] Fifteen years of total fucking insanity. 1100 00:53:05,099 --> 00:53:06,434 Boy, man. 1101 00:53:06,517 --> 00:53:12,232 You know, I think we would be remiss to not discuss its effect on me. 1102 00:53:12,315 --> 00:53:16,027 Yeah, boy, I could sure love to miss that discussion. 1103 00:53:16,110 --> 00:53:17,612 [Downey Jr. chuckling] 1104 00:53:17,695 --> 00:53:19,822 ["Don't Need a Gun" by Billy Idol playing] 1105 00:53:22,325 --> 00:53:24,160 [Downey Jr.] When I did Less Than Zero, 1106 00:53:24,244 --> 00:53:26,913 that was right around the time that I began. 1107 00:53:28,539 --> 00:53:30,458 It was obviously not 1108 00:53:32,043 --> 00:53:33,503 autobiographical for me, 1109 00:53:33,586 --> 00:53:38,258 but certainly what was similar was young folks, drugs, the '80s. 1110 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,719 [producer] When you heard he was doing that film, what was that like? 1111 00:53:41,803 --> 00:53:43,471 [Downey Sr.] He was funny. He said, 1112 00:53:43,554 --> 00:53:46,432 "I got a part in a legitimate film." [laughs] 1113 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,020 You can't stay here. Live your life anywhere you want but not here. 1114 00:53:51,604 --> 00:53:55,358 -I'm your son. I'm sleeping here. -Get out. I'll call the police. 1115 00:53:56,317 --> 00:53:59,612 [Downey Sr.] But I loved it. It's a tough one, but it's great. 1116 00:53:59,696 --> 00:54:02,365 -It was just a wild era. -["Modern People" by Roger Neill playing] 1117 00:54:02,448 --> 00:54:05,410 [Downey Jr.] That whole world gets tied in with creativity. 1118 00:54:06,286 --> 00:54:10,248 We were all altering our consciousness with substances. 1119 00:54:10,873 --> 00:54:15,253 I was just kinda playing a game of just wanting to self-soothe 1120 00:54:15,336 --> 00:54:17,130 or just stay loaded 1121 00:54:17,213 --> 00:54:20,883 rather than deal with the fact that things had gone off the tracks a little bit. 1122 00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:25,763 And, honestly, more than anything, I look back and go, 1123 00:54:26,347 --> 00:54:27,390 "It's shocking 1124 00:54:27,890 --> 00:54:30,518 that a single movie came out finished." 1125 00:54:31,102 --> 00:54:33,354 But that didn't stop we Downeys. 1126 00:54:33,438 --> 00:54:35,481 ["Pound Score" by Charley Cuva playing] 1127 00:54:36,774 --> 00:54:38,526 [man] Hey, Reed! Will you stop with the food? 1128 00:54:38,609 --> 00:54:40,653 Rent is due. We gotta go to work. Come on. 1129 00:54:41,362 --> 00:54:44,073 -Work before we eat, all right? Come on. -[Reed] Okay. All right! 1130 00:54:44,157 --> 00:54:46,784 -I just made that salad! -Enough with the salads! 1131 00:54:47,535 --> 00:54:50,163 [Downey Sr.] The movie wouldn't have gotten out without him. 1132 00:54:50,246 --> 00:54:51,080 That's reality. 1133 00:54:51,164 --> 00:54:53,583 [interviewer] Yeah. I mean, he's become a big movie star. 1134 00:54:53,666 --> 00:54:56,002 -[Downey Sr.] Yeah. -[interviewer] He still takes direction? 1135 00:54:56,502 --> 00:54:58,880 Well, he loves fooling around. Yeah, he does. 1136 00:54:58,963 --> 00:54:59,797 Whoo! 1137 00:54:59,881 --> 00:55:00,923 Whoo! 1138 00:55:01,007 --> 00:55:03,343 -Gotta go, Ma. -Okay, honey. Do what you have to do. 1139 00:55:03,426 --> 00:55:05,595 [interviewer] There was certainly a sense of… of family, 1140 00:55:05,678 --> 00:55:08,931 that people are having fun, and it's… it really translates. 1141 00:55:09,015 --> 00:55:10,683 [Downey Sr.] Good, I'm glad 'cause it was, 1142 00:55:10,767 --> 00:55:14,437 and it was a very good period of my life 'cause I met Laura. 1143 00:55:15,188 --> 00:55:18,107 I am hip to your shit, shithead. 1144 00:55:18,191 --> 00:55:21,402 I think Sr. was afraid I would be a terrible actress, 1145 00:55:21,486 --> 00:55:25,948 so he thought, "Throw an accent on, and maybe they won't notice." 1146 00:55:26,032 --> 00:55:27,909 -[Downey Sr.] That's not true. -[Laura laughing] 1147 00:55:27,992 --> 00:55:30,244 [Downey Jr.] Thank God for Laura Ernst. 1148 00:55:30,328 --> 00:55:33,289 Yeah, I agree. 1149 00:55:33,373 --> 00:55:39,253 She showed up, and I feel like it was just the kind of energy you needed 1150 00:55:39,337 --> 00:55:41,214 at that point in your life. 1151 00:55:41,297 --> 00:55:42,423 Mm-hmm. 1152 00:55:42,507 --> 00:55:45,927 And it seemed like you just got healthier 1153 00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:50,264 and started kinda taking care of yourself 1154 00:55:50,348 --> 00:55:55,311 and settling into and away from that whole drug-culture life 1155 00:55:55,395 --> 00:55:56,979 that we all got stuck in. 1156 00:55:57,063 --> 00:55:58,606 -Hi, Dad. -Hi. 1157 00:55:58,689 --> 00:56:02,026 And I remember it very, very, very profoundly. 1158 00:56:03,236 --> 00:56:06,739 [Downey Sr.] A lot of us did things and thought it would be hypocritical 1159 00:56:06,823 --> 00:56:10,368 to not have our kids participate in marijuana and stuff like that. 1160 00:56:10,451 --> 00:56:12,745 So we thought it was cute to let 'em smoke it and all that. 1161 00:56:12,829 --> 00:56:15,540 It was an idiot move on our parts, a lot of us, 1162 00:56:15,623 --> 00:56:17,500 to share that with our children. 1163 00:56:17,583 --> 00:56:19,168 I'm just happy he's here. 1164 00:56:19,252 --> 00:56:21,254 -[Downey Jr. chuckling] -That's all. [kissing] 1165 00:56:21,754 --> 00:56:23,714 [interviewer] Ever worried he wasn't gonna be here? 1166 00:56:23,798 --> 00:56:24,757 Many times. 1167 00:56:25,258 --> 00:56:27,510 [Downey Jr.] Even though it took me another 20 years to get 1168 00:56:27,593 --> 00:56:29,053 my own shit together, 1169 00:56:29,137 --> 00:56:33,182 you and Laura became this very, very, very stable force for me. 1170 00:56:34,016 --> 00:56:36,769 What is your memory of those years with Laura? 1171 00:56:37,353 --> 00:56:40,982 A lot because, uh, sh… she got sick. 1172 00:56:41,983 --> 00:56:45,778 And were you with her when she got the diagnosis for Lou Gehrig's? 1173 00:56:46,362 --> 00:56:47,363 [Downey Sr.] Yeah. 1174 00:56:47,447 --> 00:56:51,409 How does one process that with your… with your life partner? 1175 00:56:51,492 --> 00:56:53,744 It was… it was time to grow up, 1176 00:56:54,954 --> 00:56:57,373 to think of somebody else first. 1177 00:56:58,708 --> 00:57:01,836 [Arkin] We spent some time with him and his wife, Laura. 1178 00:57:02,503 --> 00:57:05,965 He was as loving and tender 1179 00:57:06,466 --> 00:57:09,802 with her as any human being I've ever seen. 1180 00:57:09,886 --> 00:57:11,262 It was a lesson 1181 00:57:11,846 --> 00:57:15,308 in how to deal with somebody who's… who's passing. 1182 00:57:16,142 --> 00:57:19,645 I sometimes think of… 1183 00:57:19,729 --> 00:57:21,981 ["Fourth of July" by Nathan Halpern playing] 1184 00:57:26,694 --> 00:57:32,783 …any of the stuff we feel guilty about or what we did in past relationships, 1185 00:57:32,867 --> 00:57:37,455 and then to be able to have an opportunity to, um, 1186 00:57:38,664 --> 00:57:43,461 make that living amends so fully to… to… to a partner 1187 00:57:44,587 --> 00:57:48,591 and to completely commit to being by their side 1188 00:57:48,674 --> 00:57:51,427 through every step of a devastating illness. 1189 00:57:52,178 --> 00:57:54,514 And, uh, it's crazy. You really showed up. 1190 00:57:55,598 --> 00:57:56,849 I hope so. 1191 00:57:58,976 --> 00:58:01,562 [computer clicking] 1192 00:58:01,646 --> 00:58:03,981 [computer voice] What I have is not contagious. 1193 00:58:04,065 --> 00:58:04,941 What is it? 1194 00:58:05,441 --> 00:58:06,359 [computer clicks] 1195 00:58:06,442 --> 00:58:10,071 [computer voice] ALS, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, 1196 00:58:10,154 --> 00:58:12,406 also known as Lou Gehrig's disease. 1197 00:58:14,242 --> 00:58:15,409 I love you. 1198 00:58:16,369 --> 00:58:19,080 Just another one of God's little victims. 1199 00:58:19,789 --> 00:58:21,082 Like me. 1200 00:58:21,582 --> 00:58:24,252 [Downey Jr.] Very much like when Chaplin lost a kid, 1201 00:58:24,794 --> 00:58:28,714 and then the next movie he made strangely was titled The Kid, 1202 00:58:28,798 --> 00:58:33,177 and it was a way for him to process the grief in his personal life. 1203 00:58:33,261 --> 00:58:35,721 That's exactly what you did in Hugo Pool. 1204 00:58:35,805 --> 00:58:37,807 ["Forever Young (Instrumental)" playing] 1205 00:58:37,890 --> 00:58:39,225 You're gonna beat this. 1206 00:58:39,850 --> 00:58:41,978 [computer voice] I like the way you think. 1207 00:58:43,896 --> 00:58:46,566 [Downey Jr.] Your movie was representing everything 1208 00:58:46,649 --> 00:58:48,776 from Laura's illness 1209 00:58:48,859 --> 00:58:52,405 to my addiction to your turnaround. 1210 00:58:52,488 --> 00:58:56,659 Since you're gonna outlive me, will you forgive me for all the drugs 1211 00:58:56,742 --> 00:58:59,662 and bad examples that I'm leaving you? 1212 00:58:59,745 --> 00:59:02,623 [Downey Sr.] It's a collage of pain. 1213 00:59:03,833 --> 00:59:09,297 And so you… you try and go through it the best you can. 1214 00:59:14,510 --> 00:59:16,512 -[song continues] -[no audible dialogue] 1215 00:59:28,816 --> 00:59:33,946 When you lost her, you stayed clean, and I was still out there, 1216 00:59:34,030 --> 00:59:36,866 and you were just telling me to stay on the planet and stay vertical 1217 00:59:36,949 --> 00:59:39,035 and not give up and all that stuff. 1218 00:59:39,660 --> 00:59:42,622 You weren't exactly some karma-free man. 1219 00:59:42,705 --> 00:59:46,876 Let me not fucking… You know. Let's not stretch the truth here. 1220 00:59:46,959 --> 00:59:52,131 But that was kind of a super significant thing. 1221 00:59:52,214 --> 00:59:54,634 Well, it's nice to hear it that way. 1222 00:59:55,301 --> 00:59:57,803 You deserved it with what you went through. 1223 00:59:59,305 --> 01:00:00,139 Yeah. 1224 01:00:05,561 --> 01:00:09,231 All right. That's worthy of an evening's nonsense. 1225 01:00:09,315 --> 01:00:10,608 [Downey Jr. laughing] 1226 01:00:10,691 --> 01:00:12,860 ["What Is Life" by George Harrison playing] 1227 01:00:14,654 --> 01:00:18,032 [Downey Sr.] After the bad films that I directed out in California, 1228 01:00:18,532 --> 01:00:21,160 friends of mine would say, "Get out of LA now." 1229 01:00:21,243 --> 01:00:23,204 Did I tell him to get out of LA? 1230 01:00:23,704 --> 01:00:26,874 But it didn't mean he couldn't visit. Now he doesn't even come and visit. 1231 01:00:26,957 --> 01:00:28,250 He won't get on a plane. 1232 01:00:28,334 --> 01:00:29,502 ♪ What I feel ♪ 1233 01:00:31,545 --> 01:00:33,422 ♪ I can't say… ♪ 1234 01:00:35,508 --> 01:00:37,927 [Lear] Between New York and LA, 1235 01:00:38,010 --> 01:00:40,137 there's no question he should be… [laughs] 1236 01:00:40,221 --> 01:00:41,389 …in New York. 1237 01:00:41,472 --> 01:00:43,140 I think he's happier for being out of LA. 1238 01:00:43,224 --> 01:00:45,434 I think everybody's happier when they get out of LA. 1239 01:00:45,518 --> 01:00:48,062 The land of broken dreams. 1240 01:00:49,355 --> 01:00:53,025 [Lear] And it may be that New York is sufficiently complicated 1241 01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:57,571 for somebody to be their unique person. 1242 01:00:58,656 --> 01:01:01,200 He was born, you could say, to be in New York. 1243 01:01:01,283 --> 01:01:04,620 ♪ …without your love ♪ 1244 01:01:04,704 --> 01:01:08,332 ♪ Tell me who am I ♪ 1245 01:01:08,416 --> 01:01:11,919 ♪ Without you ♪ 1246 01:01:12,002 --> 01:01:14,130 ♪ By my side ♪ 1247 01:01:15,256 --> 01:01:16,173 [song ends] 1248 01:01:16,674 --> 01:01:19,635 [Downey Jr., Exton, and Avri singing] ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1249 01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:20,678 [Downey Sr.] Aw. 1250 01:01:20,761 --> 01:01:23,806 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1251 01:01:23,889 --> 01:01:25,141 We'll call him Bob Sr. 1252 01:01:25,224 --> 01:01:30,396 ♪ Happy birthday, Bob Sr. ♪ 1253 01:01:30,896 --> 01:01:36,068 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1254 01:01:36,652 --> 01:01:38,487 Exton, how's school? 1255 01:01:38,571 --> 01:01:39,697 It's good. 1256 01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:42,408 -Oh. Oh! He's taking a sip of my coffee. -[Susan] Hey, guys. 1257 01:01:42,491 --> 01:01:43,492 Hi, Susan. 1258 01:01:43,576 --> 01:01:45,327 Hi. Happy birthday. 1259 01:01:45,411 --> 01:01:46,704 Thank you. 1260 01:01:46,787 --> 01:01:49,081 Are you properly celebrating, Sr.? 1261 01:01:49,165 --> 01:01:52,668 He is. He's got some friends and close associates over. 1262 01:01:52,752 --> 01:01:53,794 They're having a ball. 1263 01:01:53,878 --> 01:01:57,256 We might wanna get a couple of women in this film also. 1264 01:01:57,339 --> 01:01:58,299 Yes. 1265 01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:01,719 If Susan would do it, she could play your wife. 1266 01:02:02,219 --> 01:02:05,931 I'm pretty serious about giving as many people an opportunity 1267 01:02:06,015 --> 01:02:07,475 in that casting as I can. 1268 01:02:07,558 --> 01:02:09,226 -[Susan scoffs, chuckles] -But we'll see. 1269 01:02:09,310 --> 01:02:12,146 I mean, we can always come back around to the house favorite, yeah. 1270 01:02:12,229 --> 01:02:16,942 By the way, every day I think about your dad. 1271 01:02:17,026 --> 01:02:18,652 Thank you. Me too. 1272 01:02:19,779 --> 01:02:20,613 Me too. 1273 01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:25,659 Yeah, it was a tricky first Father's Day without a father. 1274 01:02:27,787 --> 01:02:29,663 Boy, was he funny too. 1275 01:02:29,747 --> 01:02:30,706 Yeah. 1276 01:02:31,207 --> 01:02:34,585 You look good, Pops. I'm glad there's some levity there, 1277 01:02:34,668 --> 01:02:37,588 and you're surrounded by good people, and-- 1278 01:02:37,671 --> 01:02:39,173 I don't know any of them. 1279 01:02:39,256 --> 01:02:40,800 [Susan and Downey Jr. laughing] 1280 01:02:42,092 --> 01:02:46,263 Now, say we wind up out in the Hamptons again together. 1281 01:02:46,347 --> 01:02:48,390 Are there any scenes to be shot 1282 01:02:48,474 --> 01:02:51,268 or images of stuff you want 1283 01:02:51,352 --> 01:02:54,396 that you're not seeing in the project right now? 1284 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,273 That German folk song. 1285 01:02:56,357 --> 01:02:57,650 I knew you were gonna say that, 1286 01:02:57,733 --> 01:03:01,529 so I'm gonna have to get an accompanist to learn that song, 1287 01:03:02,112 --> 01:03:04,824 and we're gonna have to figure out where to shoot that. 1288 01:03:04,907 --> 01:03:06,450 -[Hayes] Hello? -Hey, it's me. 1289 01:03:06,534 --> 01:03:08,536 [security gate beeps, buzzes] 1290 01:03:12,957 --> 01:03:13,916 [knocking on door] 1291 01:03:20,172 --> 01:03:21,590 [Downey Jr.] Pop, this is for you. 1292 01:03:21,674 --> 01:03:23,926 [playing "Fischerweise" by Schubert] 1293 01:03:35,020 --> 01:03:36,397 [singing in German] 1294 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,898 [ringing bell] 1295 01:03:37,982 --> 01:03:40,776 Just, let's try it from the top again. It's just coming a little… 1296 01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:42,862 [playing "Fischerweise" again] 1297 01:03:47,908 --> 01:03:49,743 [singing in German] 1298 01:04:05,509 --> 01:04:09,013 When I was 15, I entered the Kiwanis solo festivals, 1299 01:04:09,096 --> 01:04:11,015 singing Schubert's "Fischerweise," 1300 01:04:11,098 --> 01:04:15,728 and it was the first time that Pop ever noticed something I was doing, 1301 01:04:15,811 --> 01:04:18,439 outside of his movies, had some merit. 1302 01:04:18,522 --> 01:04:21,609 Or I think I got an honorable mention. 1303 01:04:23,152 --> 01:04:26,906 And, uh… and then it's been something I've returned to several times. 1304 01:04:26,989 --> 01:04:28,866 And tell us what his reaction was. 1305 01:04:29,658 --> 01:04:31,076 [exhales] He seemed pleased. 1306 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:32,244 -Yeah? -Yeah. 1307 01:04:32,328 --> 01:04:34,747 And how did that change your life going forward? 1308 01:04:35,456 --> 01:04:37,374 [continues "Fischerweise" on piano] 1309 01:04:37,458 --> 01:04:39,335 [singing in German] 1310 01:04:43,005 --> 01:04:45,466 [Downey Jr.] There's something nostalgic about it. 1311 01:04:45,549 --> 01:04:47,718 There's something beautiful about the song. 1312 01:04:48,427 --> 01:04:52,139 And then there's my dad's oddball point of view 1313 01:04:52,222 --> 01:04:55,643 of all the things he could have pulled out or remembered 1314 01:04:55,726 --> 01:04:57,311 that he would want me to repeat 1315 01:04:57,937 --> 01:04:59,730 40 years later. 1316 01:04:59,813 --> 01:05:02,983 [Downey Sr.] Uh, it will really help the film tremendously 1317 01:05:03,609 --> 01:05:07,529 when, suddenly, you just come out from behind a tree… 1318 01:05:08,364 --> 01:05:10,366 [Downey Jr.] Yes. -…and sing this thing. 1319 01:05:10,908 --> 01:05:13,035 [singing in German] 1320 01:05:13,118 --> 01:05:15,120 [piano and singing continue on monitor] 1321 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,927 [Downey Jr. and Hayes laughing on monitor] 1322 01:05:30,594 --> 01:05:31,929 [Hayes] Let's do it again. 1323 01:05:32,012 --> 01:05:33,973 [starts playing "Fischerweise" again] 1324 01:05:35,474 --> 01:05:36,475 [singing in German] 1325 01:05:38,435 --> 01:05:40,896 [piano melody morphs into "My Life" by Billy Joel] 1326 01:05:46,610 --> 01:05:47,653 [snickers] 1327 01:05:47,736 --> 01:05:49,321 ♪ …my life ♪ 1328 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:52,074 ♪ Go-- ♪ 1329 01:05:52,157 --> 01:05:55,494 -[Hayes laughing] Here we go. [Downey Jr.] I'm gonna nail it this time. 1330 01:05:55,577 --> 01:05:59,081 [Downey Sr.] It all looks sweetly narcissistic. 1331 01:05:59,665 --> 01:06:02,126 [producer] Do you see a place for this in our cut? 1332 01:06:02,209 --> 01:06:03,460 Absolutely. [chuckles] 1333 01:06:04,378 --> 01:06:06,380 [playing slide whistle] 1334 01:06:06,463 --> 01:06:08,590 [Downey Jr. and Hayes laughing on monitor] 1335 01:06:10,217 --> 01:06:13,512 -Can you do that a little more? -[producer] Like, repeat it? 1336 01:06:13,595 --> 01:06:14,638 [Downey Sr. laughing] 1337 01:06:15,848 --> 01:06:17,516 No, I'm just being happy. 1338 01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:19,226 [producer] Let me try. 1339 01:06:19,810 --> 01:06:22,771 [Rogers] He completely focused on the edit. 1340 01:06:22,855 --> 01:06:25,024 He sat up for hours and hours, 1341 01:06:25,107 --> 01:06:27,568 which was something he hadn't done in a long time. 1342 01:06:28,068 --> 01:06:31,697 It's just a big source of joy for him. You know, it really is. 1343 01:06:31,780 --> 01:06:33,782 It's… it's everything for him. 1344 01:06:34,491 --> 01:06:37,703 -[producer] That's pretty good, dude. -I just wanna see it again. 1345 01:06:38,287 --> 01:06:40,330 -[producer] Let's see. -[playing slide whistle] 1346 01:06:40,414 --> 01:06:44,293 Have you changed as a filmmaker, or do you still make stuff the same way? 1347 01:06:44,376 --> 01:06:46,628 That's a good question. I really don't know. 1348 01:06:47,129 --> 01:06:48,797 [producer] What was the last film you worked on? 1349 01:06:48,881 --> 01:06:51,300 [Downey Sr.] It was a documentary down in Philadelphia 1350 01:06:51,383 --> 01:06:53,093 that I'm very fond of. 1351 01:06:53,635 --> 01:06:57,306 It's about a park called Rittenhouse Square. 1352 01:06:58,348 --> 01:07:01,226 After I sat in the park and saw all the weird characters, 1353 01:07:01,310 --> 01:07:02,519 I said, "I'm in." 1354 01:07:02,603 --> 01:07:03,812 [classical music playing] 1355 01:07:03,896 --> 01:07:08,650 [Downey Sr.] And we spent a year in there to get the different seasons, 1356 01:07:08,734 --> 01:07:10,277 just studying people. 1357 01:07:11,904 --> 01:07:13,739 The one thing we learned was 1358 01:07:14,907 --> 01:07:17,618 trust anything 'cause anything will happen. 1359 01:07:17,701 --> 01:07:21,914 And sure enough, the first day, we ran into a ten-year-old violinist, 1360 01:07:21,997 --> 01:07:24,541 who was great, and she became the main focus 1361 01:07:24,625 --> 01:07:26,460 of the whole year in the park. 1362 01:07:26,543 --> 01:07:28,545 [playing classical music] 1363 01:07:41,433 --> 01:07:45,270 [producer] How did making the documentary compare to, like, your other films? 1364 01:07:45,354 --> 01:07:47,272 Well, I like… as I said earlier, 1365 01:07:47,356 --> 01:07:49,858 I like the idea you don't know what's gonna happen. 1366 01:07:51,819 --> 01:07:54,238 ["The Room Upstairs" by Stephen Edwards playing] 1367 01:08:20,889 --> 01:08:25,394 [Susan] Sr., you know, he's battling a horrible, horrible disease 1368 01:08:25,477 --> 01:08:27,813 that I had to see my dad go through. 1369 01:08:27,896 --> 01:08:29,606 And so at this point, 1370 01:08:29,690 --> 01:08:32,151 it's all just love of the time we have left. 1371 01:08:33,610 --> 01:08:38,198 And I don't know if Sr. has come to terms with some of his behavior from back then 1372 01:08:38,282 --> 01:08:39,908 or how it relates to Robert. 1373 01:08:40,492 --> 01:08:44,621 But what I know now is, you know, this is somebody who loves his kid. 1374 01:08:47,124 --> 01:08:50,586 [Downey Jr.] It's the quintessential Sullivan's Travels. 1375 01:08:51,795 --> 01:08:55,299 Setting out to do something real and important, 1376 01:08:56,216 --> 01:08:58,218 and what if what we'd been doing all along 1377 01:08:58,302 --> 01:09:00,637 was every bit as important as it needed to be? 1378 01:09:01,597 --> 01:09:05,100 For me, this feels like trying to close the circle 1379 01:09:05,184 --> 01:09:08,604 on that whole patriarchal thing. 1380 01:09:09,646 --> 01:09:11,315 [song continues] 1381 01:09:11,398 --> 01:09:14,693 [Downey Jr.] And making peace with all the 1382 01:09:15,777 --> 01:09:18,822 upside and downside of it and sideways-ness of it. 1383 01:09:18,906 --> 01:09:22,159 And then saying, "Okay, you're a grown man now." 1384 01:09:23,619 --> 01:09:26,038 [no audible dialogue] 1385 01:09:32,377 --> 01:09:33,378 [song ends] 1386 01:09:33,962 --> 01:09:36,506 Lean and mean, Bob. Lean and mean. 1387 01:09:36,590 --> 01:09:39,218 [producer] That's a whole new pass, man. 1388 01:09:40,552 --> 01:09:41,470 [producer sighs] 1389 01:09:41,970 --> 01:09:44,097 [laughing] 1390 01:09:48,977 --> 01:09:52,147 Well, you don't have to worry about when you're coming back now. 1391 01:09:52,231 --> 01:09:54,524 It's whenever it happens, it happens. 1392 01:09:56,235 --> 01:09:58,487 Thanks for doing this. It's big deal. 1393 01:10:03,367 --> 01:10:05,369 Great. You did some great work. 1394 01:10:07,829 --> 01:10:08,705 [producer] Yeah. 1395 01:10:08,789 --> 01:10:12,125 Looking back… [indistinct] …he says it's been a great experience. 1396 01:10:12,209 --> 01:10:15,837 His definition of a producer is a guy who gets stuff done. 1397 01:10:19,299 --> 01:10:23,345 ["Theme from A Summer Place (Instrumental)" by Percy Faith playing] 1398 01:10:24,096 --> 01:10:26,098 [indistinct chatter] 1399 01:10:41,446 --> 01:10:42,406 [indistinct] 1400 01:10:51,206 --> 01:10:52,874 Yep, yep, yep. 1401 01:10:53,375 --> 01:10:56,795 Heading the 90 miles in town. He's pumped. 1402 01:10:56,878 --> 01:10:58,714 This is year three 1403 01:10:59,506 --> 01:11:01,967 of shooting the Daddy doc. 1404 01:11:02,050 --> 01:11:04,177 I'm excited to see Grandpa. 1405 01:11:04,803 --> 01:11:07,514 ["On the Road to Find Out" by Cat Stevens playing] 1406 01:11:26,742 --> 01:11:29,578 ♪ Well, I left my happy home ♪ 1407 01:11:29,661 --> 01:11:32,039 ♪ To see what I could find out ♪ 1408 01:11:38,253 --> 01:11:40,797 ♪ I left my folk and friends ♪ 1409 01:11:40,881 --> 01:11:43,675 ♪ With the aim to clear my mind out 1410 01:11:46,011 --> 01:11:47,262 [exhales] 1411 01:11:49,973 --> 01:11:55,020 The plan for today, we're gonna keep shooting the "Sr." documentary. 1412 01:11:55,103 --> 01:12:01,610 The main reason I wanted to be here was because I wanted to see Grandpa. 1413 01:12:02,110 --> 01:12:07,616 So, I wanted to see him 1414 01:12:07,699 --> 01:12:11,078 so we could, sort of, have memories. 1415 01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:18,752 And… so when he passes, I can say 1416 01:12:19,878 --> 01:12:21,713 I got to spend some time with him. 1417 01:12:21,797 --> 01:12:24,049 ♪ Na, na, na ♪ 1418 01:12:24,633 --> 01:12:26,551 ♪ Na, na, na ♪ 1419 01:12:27,386 --> 01:12:29,763 ♪ Na, na, na ♪ 1420 01:12:29,846 --> 01:12:32,307 ♪ Well, in the end I'll know ♪ 1421 01:12:32,933 --> 01:12:35,102 ♪ But on the way I wonder ♪ 1422 01:12:35,852 --> 01:12:38,063 ♪ Na, na, na ♪ 1423 01:12:38,647 --> 01:12:40,690 ♪ Na, na, na ♪ 1424 01:12:41,316 --> 01:12:43,360 ♪ Through descending snow… ♪ 1425 01:12:43,944 --> 01:12:47,030 [Downey Jr.] Hi, thank you, sir. We're here for Downey. Thank you. 1426 01:12:47,114 --> 01:12:49,491 ♪ Na, na, na ♪ 1427 01:12:49,574 --> 01:12:51,993 ♪ Na, na, na ♪ 1428 01:12:52,494 --> 01:12:57,165 ♪ I listen to the wind come howl Telling me I have to hurry ♪ 1429 01:12:58,041 --> 01:13:00,210 ♪ I listen to the robin's song ♪ 1430 01:13:00,293 --> 01:13:03,213 ♪ Saying not to worry ♪ 1431 01:13:04,005 --> 01:13:06,675 ♪ Ah-ooh ♪ 1432 01:13:06,758 --> 01:13:09,094 ♪ So on and on I go ♪ 1433 01:13:09,928 --> 01:13:12,097 ♪ The seconds tick the time out… ♪ 1434 01:13:12,180 --> 01:13:13,181 Hi, Dada. 1435 01:13:14,182 --> 01:13:19,813 Whenever, uh, you'd rather we're not rolling, just let us know. 1436 01:13:19,896 --> 01:13:23,024 Otherwise, we're in your face all day, all the time. 1437 01:13:23,733 --> 01:13:24,860 [Downey Jr. chuckling] 1438 01:13:28,947 --> 01:13:30,740 [producer] It's good to see you in person, man. 1439 01:13:31,324 --> 01:13:32,742 Is it… is it warm out? 1440 01:13:33,577 --> 01:13:35,287 [producer] Cold. Cold and rainy today. 1441 01:13:35,370 --> 01:13:37,998 Ooh, well, that's good… good for photography. 1442 01:13:38,915 --> 01:13:40,667 [Downey Jr.] Exy, when you're ready. 1443 01:13:40,750 --> 01:13:41,626 [song fades out] 1444 01:13:41,710 --> 01:13:43,587 [Downey Jr.] We're gonna give you three takes 1445 01:13:43,670 --> 01:13:45,839 at asking him the question, all right? 1446 01:13:45,922 --> 01:13:48,758 So you'll hit… come here, hit him with the line. 1447 01:13:50,510 --> 01:13:52,471 -Hey, Exy. -Hi. 1448 01:13:52,554 --> 01:13:54,973 Okay, he's ready. In three, two, one, go. 1449 01:13:55,056 --> 01:13:56,183 Hey, Sr. 1450 01:13:56,266 --> 01:13:58,018 Have any hair on your balls? 1451 01:13:58,101 --> 01:13:59,644 [Downey Jr. suppressing laugh] 1452 01:14:00,145 --> 01:14:01,730 Would you repeat that question? 1453 01:14:02,772 --> 01:14:04,232 Have any hair on your balls? 1454 01:14:04,316 --> 01:14:05,192 Perfect. 1455 01:14:05,692 --> 01:14:08,862 [Downey Jr. laughs] Now, give him the answer line one time, Dad. 1456 01:14:08,945 --> 01:14:12,407 Exy, hit him again, and then you do Larry Wolf's "I'm afraid to look." 1457 01:14:13,241 --> 01:14:15,911 [Exton] Hey, Sr. Have any hair on your balls? 1458 01:14:16,453 --> 01:14:17,454 Do I what? 1459 01:14:17,954 --> 01:14:19,873 [Downey Jr. laughing] 1460 01:14:20,874 --> 01:14:24,878 He refuses to do his own answer. 1461 01:14:26,213 --> 01:14:27,506 [Downey Jr. groaning in delight] 1462 01:14:27,589 --> 01:14:30,091 -All right, you are free. -That was very fun. 1463 01:14:30,175 --> 01:14:31,801 [Downey Jr.] Exy's having a ball, dude. 1464 01:14:31,885 --> 01:14:33,553 This is, like, the best trip he's ever had. 1465 01:14:33,637 --> 01:14:36,389 [Exton] It's definitely up in, like, the top ten. 1466 01:14:36,473 --> 01:14:38,266 [Downey Jr. and Sr. laughing] 1467 01:14:41,478 --> 01:14:43,063 [kissing] 1468 01:14:43,688 --> 01:14:44,773 You need anything? 1469 01:14:46,525 --> 01:14:47,442 Where are we? 1470 01:14:47,526 --> 01:14:48,443 [Downey Jr. laughing] 1471 01:14:52,072 --> 01:14:55,825 This is the last day, uh, that I'm likely to see him for a while, 1472 01:14:55,909 --> 01:14:59,204 so what's my move for him, for me, just to kinda… 1473 01:14:59,704 --> 01:15:01,915 You know, it's weird because I know that I'm… 1474 01:15:04,334 --> 01:15:06,336 uh, capturing it. 1475 01:15:06,419 --> 01:15:09,422 [therapist] Oddly, it's sort of like what your family does. 1476 01:15:09,506 --> 01:15:12,050 You guys make art of your lives. 1477 01:15:12,133 --> 01:15:15,387 It's weird. It's natural. Like, it brings me back where it's like, 1478 01:15:15,470 --> 01:15:18,348 whatever's unfolding, funny or tragic, 1479 01:15:18,431 --> 01:15:21,434 it's happening with a 16-millimeter camera going, 1480 01:15:21,935 --> 01:15:23,603 and, uh, we can reflect on it… 1481 01:15:23,687 --> 01:15:25,647 [chuckling] …40 years from now… 1482 01:15:25,730 --> 01:15:26,565 [therapist] Yeah. 1483 01:15:26,648 --> 01:15:28,149 …when somehow or other it makes sense. 1484 01:15:29,442 --> 01:15:32,821 But then there's some part of me that feels like I'll… [sniffling] 1485 01:15:37,701 --> 01:15:38,827 I'll miss something. 1486 01:15:39,327 --> 01:15:41,079 [therapist] Yeah, yeah. 1487 01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:42,664 Yeah. 1488 01:15:42,747 --> 01:15:45,709 You know, just 'cause the window's closing a bit, it seems. 1489 01:15:45,792 --> 01:15:47,460 ["Fourth of July" by Nathan Halpern playing] 1490 01:15:47,544 --> 01:15:52,424 [therapist] Is there anything that you feel like you need to process 1491 01:15:52,507 --> 01:15:57,345 in relation to the possibility of not seeing him again? 1492 01:15:58,513 --> 01:16:00,682 I just don't know, to be honest. 1493 01:16:00,765 --> 01:16:01,933 -[therapist] Yeah. -You know? 1494 01:16:02,017 --> 01:16:04,436 Um, it's kinda disorienting, 1495 01:16:04,978 --> 01:16:06,396 but, uh… [sighs] 1496 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,481 …dude, it's a lot. 1497 01:16:09,065 --> 01:16:11,318 [therapist] It is a lot, man. It's a lot. 1498 01:16:11,401 --> 01:16:13,862 [sighs] Well, the nice thing is 1499 01:16:14,362 --> 01:16:20,535 I haven't had this appreciative an experience of New York in ages. 1500 01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:25,123 And getting to see it through Exton's eyes, 1501 01:16:25,707 --> 01:16:27,375 the third-generation POV, 1502 01:16:27,459 --> 01:16:29,419 is pretty cool, you know? 1503 01:16:29,502 --> 01:16:31,880 [therapist] Yeah, but I can't help but also notice 1504 01:16:31,963 --> 01:16:33,715 the difference between 1505 01:16:34,549 --> 01:16:38,219 the reliability of his support system, you know? 1506 01:16:38,303 --> 01:16:41,806 Your dad rebelled against something that needed to be rebelled against, 1507 01:16:42,349 --> 01:16:44,684 and then you were raised in that rebellion. 1508 01:16:44,768 --> 01:16:45,602 Yeah. 1509 01:16:45,685 --> 01:16:47,479 [therapist] Letting you use drugs as a child. 1510 01:16:47,562 --> 01:16:49,814 And it's like… it's kinda fucked up! 1511 01:16:50,523 --> 01:16:52,484 [Downey Jr.] Battered but not broken. 1512 01:16:52,567 --> 01:16:54,986 [therapist] Yes. And then here we are. 1513 01:16:55,070 --> 01:16:58,615 It's like, "How do I go out without feeling like I missed something, 1514 01:16:58,698 --> 01:16:59,616 you know?" 1515 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,869 Is there anything you need to say to him? 1516 01:17:03,370 --> 01:17:06,039 I just… I don't want to… 1517 01:17:07,332 --> 01:17:09,334 [song continues] 1518 01:17:10,627 --> 01:17:13,088 -I don't wanna do the wrong thing. -[therapist] Yeah. 1519 01:17:13,171 --> 01:17:14,798 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1520 01:17:20,220 --> 01:17:21,221 [sighs] 1521 01:17:26,476 --> 01:17:27,435 Papa. 1522 01:17:28,645 --> 01:17:31,898 Give us a… give us a "one, two, three," so we can check your mic. 1523 01:17:32,857 --> 01:17:34,150 -Who? -[producer] "Who." Great. 1524 01:17:34,234 --> 01:17:35,527 [Downey Jr.] Perfect. 1525 01:17:35,610 --> 01:17:38,655 While we're still hanging out and seeing each other, 1526 01:17:38,738 --> 01:17:41,324 I just wanna try to stay close 1527 01:17:41,408 --> 01:17:43,910 and get closer and closer and closer and closer. 1528 01:17:44,452 --> 01:17:46,371 -Yeah, great idea. -[Downey Jr.] You know? 1529 01:17:48,039 --> 01:17:51,793 I was gonna ask you all these questions about just… 1530 01:17:52,460 --> 01:17:54,504 -Any… anything. -[Downey Jr.] Um… Yeah? 1531 01:17:55,547 --> 01:17:58,925 I don't really even know how to talk about this, but I just want… 1532 01:18:01,094 --> 01:18:04,431 your point of view, um, 1533 01:18:05,849 --> 01:18:07,058 before we are done. 1534 01:18:08,351 --> 01:18:11,354 Is there anything you want your kid to know? 1535 01:18:11,938 --> 01:18:13,022 [Downey Sr. chuckles] 1536 01:18:14,733 --> 01:18:16,025 [Downey Jr.] What's so funny? 1537 01:18:16,818 --> 01:18:20,488 Well, in the Hamptons, my kid has a house and a kid. 1538 01:18:20,572 --> 01:18:23,241 Like, two kids, three kids. 1539 01:18:24,033 --> 01:18:26,411 And, uh, we… we find if we pick 1540 01:18:27,871 --> 01:18:30,957 days when the light's not great, that's good for us. 1541 01:18:31,541 --> 01:18:32,500 Right. 1542 01:18:32,584 --> 01:18:34,294 'Cause by the time you shoot it… 1543 01:18:41,843 --> 01:18:44,971 it's a good time to make any kind of film you wanna make. 1544 01:18:45,722 --> 01:18:46,848 [moaning softly] 1545 01:18:51,102 --> 01:18:54,731 [Downey Jr.] When you're not here in the here and now, 1546 01:18:54,814 --> 01:18:56,608 where does your mind go to most? 1547 01:18:56,691 --> 01:18:58,109 Is there a period in time? 1548 01:18:58,193 --> 01:19:01,780 Or is there something that's occupying your thoughts? 1549 01:19:04,491 --> 01:19:05,992 From what I can remember, 1550 01:19:07,494 --> 01:19:09,329 before I answer your question, 1551 01:19:10,371 --> 01:19:11,498 I would say the… 1552 01:19:17,587 --> 01:19:19,589 [clattering] 1553 01:19:21,382 --> 01:19:22,467 [sighs gently] 1554 01:19:23,635 --> 01:19:26,012 Charlie Parkinson's disease. 1555 01:19:28,973 --> 01:19:33,520 [Elsie] I have this here dream where I'm working in this here jazz group. 1556 01:19:33,603 --> 01:19:36,815 And right in the middle of a very groovy set, 1557 01:19:36,898 --> 01:19:39,150 just as I'm starting my solo… 1558 01:19:39,859 --> 01:19:43,613 [Downey Jr. and Elsie] …I keel over and die from Charlie Parkinson's disease. 1559 01:19:43,696 --> 01:19:45,114 [Downey Sr. laughing softly] 1560 01:19:45,698 --> 01:19:47,367 [Downey Jr.] You called it, baby. 1561 01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:57,961 [exhales] 1562 01:19:58,586 --> 01:20:00,255 [brush clattering] 1563 01:20:02,215 --> 01:20:04,801 Is there a pen over there? 1564 01:20:05,426 --> 01:20:07,929 A pen? You want a pen or a pencil? 1565 01:20:08,012 --> 01:20:08,972 Pen. 1566 01:20:11,015 --> 01:20:11,933 Yeah. 1567 01:20:12,517 --> 01:20:14,394 Ah, the old pen. 1568 01:20:14,477 --> 01:20:16,938 You love a bit of pen-and-paper action. 1569 01:20:18,481 --> 01:20:19,899 [Downey Sr. exhales gently] 1570 01:20:24,988 --> 01:20:26,239 [moans softly] 1571 01:20:29,492 --> 01:20:31,411 I can pop it for you if you want. 1572 01:20:33,913 --> 01:20:34,998 Here. 1573 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:36,958 Thank you. 1574 01:20:38,835 --> 01:20:41,045 -[Downey Jr.] Are you scribbling? -Yeah. 1575 01:20:41,129 --> 01:20:42,130 [Downey Jr.] Nice. 1576 01:20:42,213 --> 01:20:44,215 [pen scratching across paper] 1577 01:20:47,594 --> 01:20:49,470 [Downey Sr. groans, exhales gently] 1578 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:51,848 Oh, and Robert… 1579 01:20:54,851 --> 01:20:56,019 had been a… 1580 01:20:58,104 --> 01:21:01,190 a little nervous 'cause he has all these other things he's doing too, 1581 01:21:01,274 --> 01:21:03,902 but you can see what he's focusing on is this. 1582 01:21:04,402 --> 01:21:06,487 When he called me up to ask me to… 1583 01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,075 He says, "Go slow." 1584 01:21:22,086 --> 01:21:23,504 [exhales] 1585 01:21:24,255 --> 01:21:26,049 Had you two met before? 1586 01:21:28,343 --> 01:21:29,969 [Downey Jr.] You mean Jr. and I? 1587 01:21:32,513 --> 01:21:33,514 Yeah. 1588 01:21:35,934 --> 01:21:38,019 [Downey Jr.] Yeah, we're getting to know each other. 1589 01:21:38,519 --> 01:21:40,647 [paper rustling] 1590 01:21:43,691 --> 01:21:44,692 [Downey Jr. sighs] 1591 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,449 ["From the Morning" by Nick Drake playing] 1592 01:21:58,915 --> 01:22:00,917 ♪ A day once dawned ♪ 1593 01:22:03,294 --> 01:22:05,004 ♪ And it was beautiful… ♪ 1594 01:22:06,714 --> 01:22:09,008 So we'll probably head back home in a little while. 1595 01:22:10,593 --> 01:22:12,428 Even though Sr.'s just kinda napping, 1596 01:22:12,512 --> 01:22:15,014 should we just go sit in there for a while before we cut out? 1597 01:22:15,098 --> 01:22:16,015 -Yeah. -Okay. 1598 01:22:16,641 --> 01:22:18,351 ♪ Then the night she fell ♪ 1599 01:22:21,104 --> 01:22:23,189 ♪ And the air was beautiful ♪ 1600 01:22:25,566 --> 01:22:27,068 ♪ The night she fell ♪ 1601 01:22:28,111 --> 01:22:29,946 ♪ All around ♪ 1602 01:22:34,283 --> 01:22:36,494 ♪ So look, see the days ♪ 1603 01:22:38,788 --> 01:22:41,374 ♪ The endless colored ways… ♪ 1604 01:22:43,209 --> 01:22:46,421 So we'll probably let Sr. rest, and… 1605 01:22:48,339 --> 01:22:49,924 and then we'll see him, uh, 1606 01:22:51,342 --> 01:22:52,552 down the road a piece. 1607 01:22:54,429 --> 01:22:55,388 [Exton] Yes. 1608 01:23:00,768 --> 01:23:02,770 ♪ And now we rise ♪ 1609 01:23:03,938 --> 01:23:05,106 [Downey Jr.] I love you, Pops. 1610 01:23:05,189 --> 01:23:06,899 ♪ We are everywhere ♪ 1611 01:23:09,485 --> 01:23:13,948 ♪ And now we rise from the ground ♪ 1612 01:23:18,077 --> 01:23:19,954 ♪ See she flies ♪ 1613 01:23:22,665 --> 01:23:24,417 ♪ She is everywhere ♪ 1614 01:23:26,919 --> 01:23:31,174 ♪ See she flies all around ♪ 1615 01:23:35,553 --> 01:23:37,555 ♪ So look, see the sights ♪ 1616 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,310 ♪ The endless summer nights ♪ 1617 01:23:44,353 --> 01:23:49,901 ♪ And go play the game that you learned ♪ 1618 01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:52,862 ♪ From the morning ♪ 1619 01:24:13,257 --> 01:24:15,259 [song fades] 1620 01:24:20,181 --> 01:24:23,935 [Downey Jr.] We had no overt agenda with this project. 1621 01:24:26,771 --> 01:24:28,314 I had a sense of what it might be, 1622 01:24:28,397 --> 01:24:30,942 and I knew that part of it was always going to be 1623 01:24:31,442 --> 01:24:32,527 the end of his life. 1624 01:24:34,695 --> 01:24:36,906 Is it a father-son story? I don't think so. 1625 01:24:36,989 --> 01:24:40,076 Is it about what it is to be an artist? I don't know. Maybe. 1626 01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:41,661 Is it a contemplation of death? 1627 01:24:41,744 --> 01:24:43,955 I think it's kind of turning into that, 1628 01:24:44,038 --> 01:24:47,166 and not in a morose way, 1629 01:24:47,250 --> 01:24:50,837 but just in a "we're here, we do stuff, and we're gone." 1630 01:24:53,798 --> 01:24:58,177 And, um, I love him for what he did. I love him for what he didn't do. 1631 01:25:02,431 --> 01:25:03,266 [softly groans] 1632 01:25:13,067 --> 01:25:19,740 [crowd droning] Ah. 1633 01:25:19,824 --> 01:25:20,867 [man] He has come! 1634 01:25:23,327 --> 01:25:24,328 [droning halts] 1635 01:25:25,454 --> 01:25:26,998 I bring you a message. 1636 01:25:28,291 --> 01:25:32,170 Exactly six miles north of Skag Mountain in the Valley of Pain, 1637 01:25:32,753 --> 01:25:35,006 there lives an evil devil monster. 1638 01:25:36,507 --> 01:25:39,844 His name is Bingo Gas Station Motel Cheeseburger 1639 01:25:39,927 --> 01:25:43,181 With A Side Of Aircraft Noise And You'll Be Gary Indiana, 1640 01:25:44,307 --> 01:25:46,517 and he loves to hurt people. 1641 01:25:48,144 --> 01:25:51,480 The last time I saw Bingo Gas Station Motel Cheeseburger 1642 01:25:51,564 --> 01:25:54,609 With A Side Of Aircraft Noise And You'll Be Gary Indiana, 1643 01:25:55,109 --> 01:25:56,736 he told me what he wants to do. 1644 01:25:58,029 --> 01:26:02,116 He wants to come down here and kill each and every one of you. 1645 01:26:03,242 --> 01:26:05,536 But I said to him, "Bingo, wait a minute." 1646 01:26:06,662 --> 01:26:09,749 And the reason I said that is because I believe in you people. 1647 01:26:10,416 --> 01:26:12,001 I believe you can do the job. 1648 01:26:13,044 --> 01:26:14,754 I believe you can help each other. 1649 01:26:16,005 --> 01:26:19,383 I believe you can make this world a better place to live in. 1650 01:26:23,846 --> 01:26:24,805 That's it. 1651 01:26:25,514 --> 01:26:27,433 ["Gone" by The Dose playing] 1652 01:26:27,516 --> 01:26:32,980 ♪ When I think I've got it figured out ♪ 1653 01:26:34,190 --> 01:26:40,112 ♪ Pressure reveals unexpected routes ♪ 1654 01:26:41,739 --> 01:26:47,328 ♪ That lead back into agony's core ♪ 1655 01:26:48,871 --> 01:26:54,252 ♪ My peace of mind is a civil war ♪ 1656 01:26:56,003 --> 01:27:01,133 ♪ I'm getting ♪ 1657 01:27:01,217 --> 01:27:07,473 ♪ Closer to the day I'm gone ♪ 1658 01:27:10,142 --> 01:27:14,981 ♪ You know life goes on ♪ 1659 01:27:31,539 --> 01:27:36,335 ♪ I'm getting ♪ 1660 01:27:36,919 --> 01:27:43,467 ♪ Closer to the day I'm gone ♪ 1661 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:51,017 ♪ Until it's ♪ 1662 01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:52,977 ♪ Over ♪ 1663 01:27:53,060 --> 01:27:57,606 ♪ You know life goes on ♪ 1664 01:28:19,003 --> 01:28:21,047 [song fades] 1665 01:28:22,298 --> 01:28:23,549 Take a card, Mr. Greaser. 1666 01:28:24,175 --> 01:28:25,801 All right. Put it back anywhere. 1667 01:28:27,428 --> 01:28:28,471 -[man] This it? -No. 1668 01:28:29,472 --> 01:28:30,598 -[man] This one? -No. 1669 01:28:31,599 --> 01:28:32,600 -[man] That one? -No! 1670 01:28:33,851 --> 01:28:34,852 -[man] This one? -No! 1671 01:28:35,895 --> 01:28:36,896 -That one? -No. 1672 01:28:38,397 --> 01:28:39,482 -[man] That it? -No. 1673 01:28:40,066 --> 01:28:41,400 -That one? -No! 1674 01:28:42,443 --> 01:28:43,444 -This one? -No. 1675 01:28:44,362 --> 01:28:45,363 -That one? -No. 1676 01:28:46,405 --> 01:28:47,406 -This one? -No! 1677 01:28:48,908 --> 01:28:49,909 -This it? -No. 1678 01:28:51,202 --> 01:28:52,203 -That it? -No! 1679 01:28:53,704 --> 01:28:54,705 -This one? -No. 1680 01:28:55,748 --> 01:28:57,208 -Here it comes! -[Greaser] No. 1681 01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,251 -This one? -[Greaser] No. 1682 01:29:00,961 --> 01:29:02,254 -That one? -[Greaser] No. 1683 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,507 -[man] This one? -[Greaser] No. 1684 01:29:04,590 --> 01:29:05,966 -[man] Is that it? -[Greaser] No. 1685 01:29:06,050 --> 01:29:07,218 -[man] This one! -[Greaser] No. 1686 01:29:07,301 --> 01:29:08,135 [crickets chirping] 1687 01:29:08,219 --> 01:29:09,720 -[man] That one? -[Greaser] No!