1 00:00:12,555 --> 00:00:14,932 At this point in the investigation, 2 00:00:15,016 --> 00:00:17,894 you know, there's indication there's a lot more to be discovered. 3 00:00:17,977 --> 00:00:21,397 Then, all of a sudden, I get a message in my inbox. 4 00:00:22,273 --> 00:00:24,067 It's a link to a folder 5 00:00:24,150 --> 00:00:25,860 full of, I kid you not, 6 00:00:25,943 --> 00:00:28,154 six hundred sixty-six photos. 7 00:00:30,114 --> 00:00:32,617 In the photos are Chad and Lori getting married. 8 00:00:34,202 --> 00:00:36,329 Seeing Chad and Lori in all white, 9 00:00:36,412 --> 00:00:40,291 dancing on the beach together after Tammy has just died. 10 00:00:41,209 --> 00:00:42,919 My jaw is to the floor. 11 00:00:45,088 --> 00:00:48,925 Lori had a green malachite ring. 12 00:00:50,093 --> 00:00:54,889 We know from the Amazon order that Lori ordered this malachite ring 13 00:00:55,389 --> 00:00:57,058 when Tammy was still alive. 14 00:00:58,810 --> 00:01:02,563 When those photos came out, this exploded. 15 00:01:02,647 --> 00:01:06,317 Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell got married here on a beach in Kauai, 16 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,238 just 13 days after the memorial of Chad's first wife Tammy. 17 00:01:14,492 --> 00:01:15,910 It was so deflating 18 00:01:16,869 --> 00:01:20,373 to see them together, in Kauai of all places. 19 00:01:21,499 --> 00:01:23,543 And there's no trace of the kids. 20 00:01:24,544 --> 00:01:26,420 Tylee's sixteen. JJ's seven. 21 00:01:28,464 --> 00:01:29,590 Where are they? 22 00:01:31,092 --> 00:01:32,718 Why aren't the kids behind you? 23 00:01:34,804 --> 00:01:36,931 I started having a lot of dreams. 24 00:01:39,892 --> 00:01:44,147 I think I dreamed about Tylee, JJ, 25 00:01:44,230 --> 00:01:46,858 Charles, my mom, or Chad every night. 26 00:01:50,403 --> 00:01:52,405 Every single time I woke up, 27 00:01:52,488 --> 00:01:57,451 I had this feeling deep inside of my stomach, in my spirit, 28 00:01:58,327 --> 00:01:59,912 there was something wrong. 29 00:02:02,707 --> 00:02:04,083 But they have to be safe. 30 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:06,794 Well, hello. 31 00:02:06,878 --> 00:02:10,381 Because my mom has spent her whole life protecting us kids. 32 00:02:10,882 --> 00:02:11,883 JJ! 33 00:02:11,966 --> 00:02:15,678 I had the battling thought, "Are they even alive?" 34 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:18,806 I'm like, "No, there's no way. They're not alive." 35 00:02:18,890 --> 00:02:19,849 Happy birthday. 36 00:02:19,932 --> 00:02:21,684 How could that be possible? 37 00:03:07,897 --> 00:03:09,690 I'm sitting in the courtroom, 38 00:03:09,774 --> 00:03:12,735 and it feels like a movie, like it's not real life. 39 00:03:12,818 --> 00:03:14,820 She walked in like a character. 40 00:03:15,947 --> 00:03:19,242 She's weirdly-- Has this weird makeup on, it looked like she-- 41 00:03:19,325 --> 00:03:20,952 I don't even know-- colored it on. 42 00:03:22,203 --> 00:03:24,747 And she's in a jumpsuit. She's this villain. 43 00:03:25,790 --> 00:03:27,917 And she just looked at Brandon, she looked at Kay, 44 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,835 and Larry, just smiled at them. 45 00:03:30,336 --> 00:03:33,589 Like, why? Why-- Like, I remember just thinking, what are you doing? 46 00:03:33,673 --> 00:03:36,801 What are-- Like, I wanted to scream it out. What are you doing? 47 00:03:36,884 --> 00:03:39,470 Since this last summer, there's been a clear and alarming 48 00:03:39,553 --> 00:03:40,972 pattern in the defendant's life. 49 00:03:41,055 --> 00:03:43,516 There are literally three active investigations 50 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:45,559 of suspicious deaths that she is related to. 51 00:03:45,643 --> 00:03:47,812 And it is alarming to the state. 52 00:03:47,895 --> 00:03:51,065 And the most aggravating factor is that the children are still missing. 53 00:03:51,148 --> 00:03:53,317 And the defendant has completely and utterly 54 00:03:53,401 --> 00:03:55,778 refused to aid in any attempts to find the children, 55 00:03:55,861 --> 00:03:57,530 even before charges were filed. 56 00:03:59,657 --> 00:04:02,326 With that, bail will be set at one million dollars. 57 00:04:02,410 --> 00:04:03,619 We'll be in recess. 58 00:04:03,703 --> 00:04:04,829 All rise. 59 00:04:07,915 --> 00:04:10,793 I sat up, like, trying to get her attention. 60 00:04:10,876 --> 00:04:12,837 I wanted her to know I was there. 61 00:04:13,838 --> 00:04:17,925 And I just remember her connection to him, seeing him. 62 00:04:19,510 --> 00:04:21,387 And I remember how she looked at him. 63 00:04:25,433 --> 00:04:28,269 You're looking at him as like-- Like there's something there. 64 00:04:28,352 --> 00:04:29,729 Are you-- Like, you don't know him. 65 00:04:31,897 --> 00:04:34,525 How do-- How have you had enough time to get comfortable enough 66 00:04:34,608 --> 00:04:37,111 to be in a bad situation, look at him, and find comfort? 67 00:04:43,743 --> 00:04:44,869 She just walked by. 68 00:04:48,039 --> 00:04:50,708 And that's when I stood up and saw him, and I locked eyes with him. 69 00:04:50,791 --> 00:04:53,169 I was like, I just want to come punch you in the face. 70 00:04:53,252 --> 00:04:55,463 And I looked at him, and he looked scared. 71 00:04:57,298 --> 00:04:58,591 I saw him cower. 72 00:05:00,092 --> 00:05:02,553 I just feel like-- I know there's something wrong with you. 73 00:05:06,932 --> 00:05:09,143 -Where are the kids, Chad? 74 00:05:09,226 --> 00:05:11,520 Where are the kids? Where are the kids, Chad? 75 00:05:11,604 --> 00:05:13,981 You've already said the kids are okay. Can you say that now? 76 00:05:14,065 --> 00:05:15,858 Hey, Chad, where are the kids? 77 00:05:17,985 --> 00:05:18,903 Chad… 78 00:05:25,326 --> 00:05:27,328 That night, I called the jail. 79 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:30,081 I'm her son. I just need to talk to her. 80 00:05:34,460 --> 00:05:35,836 You know I love you. 81 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,297 That's why this is the hardest conversation I could ever have 82 00:05:38,381 --> 00:05:39,882 with anybody in my whole life. 83 00:05:41,967 --> 00:05:43,803 You're not the same mom that I know. 84 00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:49,183 You're not the one that raised me to understand Jesus. 85 00:05:49,266 --> 00:05:50,267 Really? 86 00:05:51,102 --> 00:05:52,061 Really? 87 00:05:52,144 --> 00:05:55,064 I hope that you turn your heart, 88 00:05:55,147 --> 00:05:59,944 turn to the true Christ so you can come back from whatever this is. 89 00:06:01,862 --> 00:06:03,823 I've always trusted you my whole life. 90 00:06:07,118 --> 00:06:09,620 I would have never thought you 91 00:06:10,121 --> 00:06:12,540 would have ever done something like this. 92 00:06:18,754 --> 00:06:21,132 What is it that you think that I've done? 93 00:06:25,219 --> 00:06:28,097 I remember we had this conversation. 94 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:32,184 She started bringing up Abraham and Isaac. 95 00:06:33,227 --> 00:06:35,312 In Abraham and Isaac, the whole entire story, 96 00:06:35,396 --> 00:06:38,816 is that Abraham is told to sacrifice his son. 97 00:06:40,067 --> 00:06:41,694 He was trying to keep his faith. 98 00:06:41,777 --> 00:06:44,113 And just to trust that God had a plan. 99 00:06:44,196 --> 00:06:48,200 So when he went to actually do it, raising the knife ready to go, 100 00:06:49,201 --> 00:06:50,494 God told him to stop. 101 00:06:50,578 --> 00:06:52,246 It was just a test of faith. 102 00:06:53,205 --> 00:06:54,915 Why would you even say that? 103 00:06:55,666 --> 00:06:58,419 You know that I'm asking you every day about my siblings. 104 00:06:59,128 --> 00:07:01,755 But she reaffirmed it to me almost every day. 105 00:07:02,256 --> 00:07:04,467 "Yes. They're fine. Everything's gonna be fine." 106 00:07:06,051 --> 00:07:09,180 So it started to build up more and more of… 107 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,807 there's a thread of hope. 108 00:07:13,726 --> 00:07:17,229 I thought there was a chance that they could be different places. 109 00:07:17,313 --> 00:07:21,942 That she had asked someone to put the kids with them for a while. 110 00:07:23,152 --> 00:07:25,946 And so the first time that she called from the jail, 111 00:07:26,655 --> 00:07:28,908 she said, "The kids are fine." 112 00:07:28,991 --> 00:07:31,660 She said, "You know what kind of mother I am." 113 00:07:31,744 --> 00:07:33,329 "I would never hurt the kids." 114 00:07:34,163 --> 00:07:35,414 That's what she said. 115 00:07:35,956 --> 00:07:38,334 And she said, "They're in a very safe place." 116 00:07:39,210 --> 00:07:41,295 I didn't think they were missing. 117 00:07:41,378 --> 00:07:43,506 I thought Lori knew where they were. 118 00:07:44,507 --> 00:07:49,386 So I felt like it's important to tell the truth about our family. 119 00:07:49,470 --> 00:07:51,847 Family members of a woman at the center of a 120 00:07:51,931 --> 00:07:54,016 high-profile missing children's case 121 00:07:54,099 --> 00:07:57,061 are publicly defending her for the very first time. 122 00:07:57,144 --> 00:08:01,690 There is no way she did anything to them. There's just no way. 123 00:08:01,774 --> 00:08:04,944 Yeah. We really think that she did nothing wrong. I-- She… 124 00:08:05,027 --> 00:08:06,987 I'm just really not sure why my grandma 125 00:08:07,071 --> 00:08:09,073 and my aunt wanted to do interviews. 126 00:08:09,907 --> 00:08:13,536 I remember how dumb I thought it was to even say anything. 127 00:08:13,619 --> 00:08:16,288 Why are you supporting her? She's obvious-- There's something wrong. 128 00:08:16,372 --> 00:08:18,874 And I just thought that was a really bad move 129 00:08:18,958 --> 00:08:21,293 to try to defend her at that point. 130 00:08:21,377 --> 00:08:23,087 I have faith in her, as a mother, 131 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:26,173 that she's doing the best she knows how for her children. 132 00:08:26,257 --> 00:08:28,092 It was hard for me to watch that. 133 00:08:28,175 --> 00:08:30,135 I felt like there was a lot of denial, 134 00:08:30,219 --> 00:08:34,056 just not even wanting to look at the reality that the children were missing. 135 00:08:34,557 --> 00:08:36,725 Um, it's like I 136 00:08:37,226 --> 00:08:40,646 couldn't understand if it was denial or if it was damage control. 137 00:08:40,729 --> 00:08:42,565 Do you think she's in a cult? 138 00:08:42,648 --> 00:08:45,234 -No. No. We don't. -No. 139 00:08:45,317 --> 00:08:47,861 You don't think that Chad brainwashed her? 140 00:08:47,945 --> 00:08:48,821 No! 141 00:08:48,904 --> 00:08:51,323 No. He couldn't do it. It's not possible. 142 00:08:52,324 --> 00:08:54,535 But they were right. We were wrong. 143 00:08:57,746 --> 00:08:59,665 I-- I should never say "I know" again. 144 00:09:00,457 --> 00:09:01,500 I don't really know. 145 00:09:04,712 --> 00:09:05,963 I just think that… 146 00:09:09,341 --> 00:09:11,010 Who knew it would get worse? 147 00:09:12,011 --> 00:09:14,930 Investigators get access to Lori's iCloud account, 148 00:09:15,014 --> 00:09:18,726 and that's where they find a photo from September 8th, 2019. 149 00:09:18,809 --> 00:09:23,689 A picture of JJ, Tylee, and Alex at Yellowstone National Park. 150 00:09:23,772 --> 00:09:26,066 The FBI and the Rexburg Police Department 151 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:29,278 are now asking anyone who visited Yellowstone National Park 152 00:09:29,361 --> 00:09:31,196 on September 8th, 2019, 153 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,742 to send them photos or video that might help them in their investigation. 154 00:09:34,825 --> 00:09:38,329 Police have determined both children were at Yellowstone that day 155 00:09:38,412 --> 00:09:40,914 with Lori and Lori's brother Alex Cox. 156 00:09:40,998 --> 00:09:43,417 This is the last known photo of Tylee. 157 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:45,669 The FBI says the group was traveling 158 00:09:45,753 --> 00:09:48,088 in this truck belonging to Alex Cox. 159 00:09:48,172 --> 00:09:52,176 Cox has been linked to the deaths of Charles Vallow, Tammy Daybell… 160 00:09:52,259 --> 00:09:54,011 But when Alex died, 161 00:09:54,094 --> 00:09:56,555 a crucial piece of the puzzle was now missing, 162 00:09:56,639 --> 00:09:58,641 but FBI had his cell phone. 163 00:10:00,643 --> 00:10:03,646 They used cell phone data and the GPS pings, 164 00:10:03,729 --> 00:10:07,483 and they traced his steps to Chad Daybell's property in September, 165 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:10,194 when JJ and Tylee went missing. 166 00:10:10,778 --> 00:10:16,575 On the ninth, Alex's phone locates him in the backyard for two and a half hours. 167 00:10:17,993 --> 00:10:20,162 The FBI also secured Tammy's phone, 168 00:10:20,245 --> 00:10:24,208 so they learned, 14 minutes after Alex left the Daybell residence, 169 00:10:24,917 --> 00:10:26,085 Chad texted Tammy. 170 00:10:33,717 --> 00:10:36,720 Finally, on June 9th, 2020, 171 00:10:36,804 --> 00:10:41,100 law enforcement is once again headed to the Daybell residence. 172 00:10:45,854 --> 00:10:47,773 All right, for those of you just tuning in, 173 00:10:47,856 --> 00:10:51,735 we are about a minute away from Chad Daybell's home, 174 00:10:52,236 --> 00:10:56,615 and we, uh… The police are serving a search warrant. 175 00:10:57,741 --> 00:11:00,452 Rexburg Police, Fremont County Sheriff's Office, 176 00:11:00,536 --> 00:11:02,788 the FBI, they are all here. 177 00:11:02,871 --> 00:11:04,164 Here's what we can see. 178 00:11:04,248 --> 00:11:07,668 Uh, there are multiple police officers here. 179 00:11:07,751 --> 00:11:09,837 There's at least one K9 dog. 180 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,965 They have set up three or four blue canopy tents. 181 00:11:13,048 --> 00:11:15,175 They have taped off the backyard. 182 00:11:16,051 --> 00:11:18,679 That seems to be the area of focus right now. 183 00:11:19,346 --> 00:11:20,973 No word-- 184 00:11:21,056 --> 00:11:24,184 We're not sure where Chad Daybell is at this moment. 185 00:12:32,503 --> 00:12:35,047 Chad Daybell was watching the search very closely, 186 00:12:35,130 --> 00:12:37,508 and eventually tried to leave in his SUV. 187 00:12:38,634 --> 00:12:40,511 The witnesses we spoke to said 188 00:12:40,594 --> 00:12:43,680 it looked like Chad Daybell was driving very fast. 189 00:12:43,764 --> 00:12:48,852 I saw his car take off down the road and, just seconds later, 190 00:12:48,936 --> 00:12:51,897 the, the marked police cars had their lights and sirens, 191 00:12:51,980 --> 00:12:54,900 and floored it to go catch him. 192 00:12:59,905 --> 00:13:02,199 The FBI called me, and they said, 193 00:13:03,367 --> 00:13:05,369 "Colby, they arrested Chad today." 194 00:13:06,161 --> 00:13:08,872 "And they found human remains on his property." 195 00:13:12,167 --> 00:13:13,544 I could have just died right there. 196 00:13:15,671 --> 00:13:17,381 My body was, like, ready to faint. 197 00:13:18,215 --> 00:13:21,343 So then I started asking her questions like, "Is it a little skeleton?" 198 00:13:21,426 --> 00:13:24,263 "Is it a little person? Is it a teenager?" 199 00:13:24,346 --> 00:13:25,806 "Do you know?" and she didn't know. 200 00:13:25,889 --> 00:13:27,975 And they hadn't even been able to get to that process. 201 00:13:28,058 --> 00:13:30,018 An autopsy will be, uh, conducted. 202 00:13:30,644 --> 00:13:33,397 Um, shortly after the remains were discovered, 203 00:13:33,897 --> 00:13:35,858 uh, Chad Daybell was taken into custody. 204 00:13:37,693 --> 00:13:41,405 It was just horrible to even know that there was human remains. 205 00:13:41,488 --> 00:13:43,740 Like, I didn't wanna know if it really was them. 206 00:13:43,824 --> 00:13:46,743 A huge day, probably one of the biggest in this case so far. 207 00:13:46,827 --> 00:13:49,371 Authorities served a search warrant on Daybell's home, 208 00:13:49,454 --> 00:13:52,124 leading to the discovery of what now police confirm 209 00:13:52,207 --> 00:13:53,959 is two sets of human remains. 210 00:13:54,918 --> 00:13:57,004 Near the fire pit and pet cemetery, 211 00:13:57,087 --> 00:13:59,464 they found human bones and charred tissue. 212 00:13:59,548 --> 00:14:05,262 We are gonna be out here as we slowly start learning these details. 213 00:14:07,306 --> 00:14:09,308 You just try somehow, some way, 214 00:14:09,391 --> 00:14:13,562 to rationalize and protect yourself from being hurt in that moment, 215 00:14:13,645 --> 00:14:15,981 but in my heart, I knew it was them. 216 00:14:20,027 --> 00:14:22,529 When I got the call from Kay Woodcock this morning, 217 00:14:22,613 --> 00:14:26,491 she held back tears, telling me one set of the human remains found 218 00:14:26,575 --> 00:14:28,660 belong to her grandson, JJ. 219 00:14:28,744 --> 00:14:31,622 Then, a couple of hours later, family members confirmed 220 00:14:31,705 --> 00:14:34,041 the second set of remains are of Tylee Ryan. 221 00:14:36,793 --> 00:14:41,131 Their bodies have been unearthed from a shallow grave in Idaho. 222 00:14:42,716 --> 00:14:44,092 A very emotional moment 223 00:14:44,176 --> 00:14:48,347 now facing the reality of what happened to these children. 224 00:14:48,430 --> 00:14:50,432 …say you find… 225 00:14:53,185 --> 00:14:55,103 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 226 00:14:56,229 --> 00:14:58,732 -We're all with you. 227 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:11,036 It was a horrible, awful, terrible realization. 228 00:15:15,207 --> 00:15:18,669 I said I knew Lori couldn't hurt her kids, and I was wrong. 229 00:15:19,169 --> 00:15:21,004 -What? -Hello. 230 00:15:21,797 --> 00:15:23,090 Those two beautiful… 231 00:15:23,173 --> 00:15:24,591 Hi, my name is Tylee. 232 00:15:24,675 --> 00:15:27,844 …talented, loving, generous kids… 233 00:15:27,928 --> 00:15:29,179 Oh, my gosh. 234 00:15:29,262 --> 00:15:33,392 …had so much to offer and so much to experience. 235 00:15:33,475 --> 00:15:35,060 -Picture. Cheese. -Cheese. 236 00:15:35,727 --> 00:15:38,939 I can't think about them without crying. 237 00:15:44,027 --> 00:15:45,696 I was honestly, like, angry. 238 00:15:46,446 --> 00:15:49,992 It was just, like, I was angry that this was real. 239 00:15:52,577 --> 00:15:53,453 Yeah. 240 00:15:53,537 --> 00:15:54,454 Say hello. 241 00:15:55,205 --> 00:15:56,623 -Say hello. -Hi, JJ. 242 00:15:56,707 --> 00:15:58,500 -Hi, JJ. -Hi, Colby. 243 00:15:58,583 --> 00:16:00,043 Hi, Colby. 244 00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:07,384 I just-- I just miss JJ and Ty. 245 00:16:07,467 --> 00:16:09,219 Like, it's hard to talk about them. 246 00:16:10,762 --> 00:16:12,180 Yeah. It's just hard. 247 00:16:14,725 --> 00:16:17,728 An inmate at the Madison County Jail. 248 00:16:19,229 --> 00:16:20,564 How are you, bubba? 249 00:16:21,231 --> 00:16:22,566 I'm not good, Mom. 250 00:16:23,859 --> 00:16:24,860 I'm so sorry. 251 00:16:25,527 --> 00:16:26,611 You're sorry? 252 00:16:27,612 --> 00:16:29,364 Of course I am. -You're sorry. 253 00:16:29,448 --> 00:16:31,950 Are you sorry for me? Or are you sorry for my siblings? 254 00:16:32,451 --> 00:16:34,995 My brother, who's seven years old, is dead. 255 00:16:35,078 --> 00:16:37,456 And my little sister, who's 16, is dead. 256 00:16:38,415 --> 00:16:39,958 What I've seen 257 00:16:40,542 --> 00:16:42,544 -is that you moved away-- -And you've seen it? 258 00:16:42,627 --> 00:16:44,880 You were there, so you saw everything that happened, huh? 259 00:16:44,963 --> 00:16:45,797 That's interesting. 260 00:16:46,298 --> 00:16:48,175 This did not just happen. 261 00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:51,428 They were murdered. 262 00:16:53,930 --> 00:16:58,894 And the reason I'm calling you is because I can't even fathom what happened. 263 00:17:02,022 --> 00:17:04,232 I miss my family, Mom. 264 00:17:05,567 --> 00:17:07,819 I know, baby. Me too. So do I. 265 00:17:07,903 --> 00:17:09,863 What do you mean you miss them? 266 00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:12,991 How can you miss them, Mom? 267 00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:15,952 How can I not? 268 00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:17,579 How can I not? 269 00:17:18,246 --> 00:17:19,581 They're my babies! 270 00:17:21,541 --> 00:17:25,962 Both parents face two charges of conspiracy to conceal or destroy evidence. 271 00:17:26,046 --> 00:17:28,298 Still, nobody is facing murder charges 272 00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:31,051 related to Tammy's death or the kids' death. 273 00:17:31,134 --> 00:17:35,347 Some Idaho attorneys say they hope and believe police have more evidence 274 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:36,848 that has not been released yet. 275 00:17:36,932 --> 00:17:40,852 Chad Daybell will appear in court tomorrow beginning at 11 a.m. 276 00:17:40,936 --> 00:17:44,648 Daybell's preliminary hearing will be livestreamed from Idaho 277 00:17:44,731 --> 00:17:46,191 for the next two days. 278 00:17:46,274 --> 00:17:49,694 This is the case of State of Idaho v. Chad Guy Daybell. 279 00:17:49,778 --> 00:17:51,947 Mr. Wood, you may call your first witness. 280 00:17:52,030 --> 00:17:54,616 Thank you. The State calls Ray Hermosillo. 281 00:17:54,699 --> 00:17:56,952 Sir, you can be seated here at the witness stand. 282 00:17:57,035 --> 00:18:00,580 If you'll give your full name as well as your occupation, we'll get started. 283 00:18:01,623 --> 00:18:02,958 Ray Dennis Hermosillo. 284 00:18:03,834 --> 00:18:06,294 I'm a detective with the Rexburg Police Department. 285 00:18:06,378 --> 00:18:08,380 Detective, have you ever had the opportunity 286 00:18:08,463 --> 00:18:09,840 to meet the defendant Chad Daybell? 287 00:18:10,674 --> 00:18:11,508 Yes. 288 00:18:11,591 --> 00:18:14,302 I was contacted by Gilbert Police Department. 289 00:18:14,845 --> 00:18:18,140 I was asked to do a welfare check on a seven-year-old boy 290 00:18:18,223 --> 00:18:20,433 by the name of Joshua Jackson Vallow. 291 00:18:20,517 --> 00:18:24,104 Myself and Detective Hope went to Lori Vallow's residence. 292 00:18:24,187 --> 00:18:28,066 We ended up making contact with the defendant, Mr. Daybell, 293 00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:29,860 and Alex Cox. 294 00:18:30,443 --> 00:18:34,030 I asked Mr. Daybell how he knew Lori Vallow, 295 00:18:34,114 --> 00:18:39,619 and he stated that he had only met her a couple of times through Alex Cox. 296 00:18:40,704 --> 00:18:42,038 What did you ask him? 297 00:18:42,122 --> 00:18:45,834 I asked Mr. Daybell when's the last time he saw JJ, 298 00:18:46,626 --> 00:18:51,339 and he stated that he saw JJ in Apartment 107 in October. 299 00:18:52,048 --> 00:18:56,052 I asked Mr. Daybell for Lori Vallow's phone number, 300 00:18:56,136 --> 00:18:57,596 and he stated he didn't have it. 301 00:18:58,889 --> 00:19:02,559 Detective Hope had come back to where we were speaking. 302 00:19:04,019 --> 00:19:06,980 I again asked Mr. Daybell if he had Lori's phone number, 303 00:19:07,063 --> 00:19:10,025 and at that point, he gave me Lori Vallow's phone number. 304 00:19:10,108 --> 00:19:12,861 Okay, did you ask him why he hadn't given you that number? 305 00:19:12,944 --> 00:19:15,238 -I did. -And what was his response? 306 00:19:15,822 --> 00:19:18,783 He stated that he felt like I was accusing him of something. 307 00:19:20,202 --> 00:19:23,163 Did you have any contact with Lori Vallow that day? 308 00:19:23,747 --> 00:19:25,874 I did not have any contact with Lori. No. 309 00:19:25,957 --> 00:19:28,627 Okay. Were you still with Detective Hope? 310 00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:29,544 I was. 311 00:19:29,628 --> 00:19:32,672 Did he-- Do you know if he had contact with Lori Vallow that day? 312 00:19:32,756 --> 00:19:33,590 He did. 313 00:19:35,091 --> 00:19:36,718 -Hi. Are you Lori? -Hi. 314 00:19:37,719 --> 00:19:39,346 Okay. So… 315 00:19:39,429 --> 00:19:40,972 JJ would be where? 316 00:19:41,056 --> 00:19:42,933 He's with one of my friends in Arizona. 317 00:19:44,351 --> 00:19:45,644 Her name is Melanie Gibb. 318 00:19:46,978 --> 00:19:48,980 Miss Gibb, if you'll please come forward. 319 00:19:49,773 --> 00:19:51,483 Be seated here at this witness chair. 320 00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:56,488 Miss Gibb, I'm gonna call your attention to 321 00:19:56,571 --> 00:19:58,990 the date of November 26th, 2019. 322 00:19:59,574 --> 00:20:02,827 What contact, if any, did you have with Mr. Daybell that day? 323 00:20:04,079 --> 00:20:08,708 I received a phone call from Chad Daybell from his cell phone. 324 00:20:09,334 --> 00:20:12,295 He said, "Hi, Melanie, this is Chad." 325 00:20:13,046 --> 00:20:17,467 Um, "The Rexburg Police are gonna call you. Don't pick up." 326 00:20:19,386 --> 00:20:24,933 He let me know that the police were over at Lori Vallow's home in Rexburg, 327 00:20:25,684 --> 00:20:30,605 and that, um, they were inquiring about where JJ was, 328 00:20:31,606 --> 00:20:35,902 and that she was going to tell the police that JJ was with me. 329 00:20:37,487 --> 00:20:39,781 I said, "JJ's not at Kay's house?" 330 00:20:41,449 --> 00:20:43,618 How did Mr. Daybell respond to that? 331 00:20:43,702 --> 00:20:44,703 He said, "No." 332 00:20:45,704 --> 00:20:49,165 Was there any other content to that conversation? 333 00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:52,585 I asked him if he was nervous, and he said, "Yes." 334 00:20:53,837 --> 00:20:58,800 And approximately what time did you hear from Lori Vallow? 335 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:00,593 I… 336 00:21:01,177 --> 00:21:03,430 Possibly within an hour or two. 337 00:21:03,513 --> 00:21:05,432 I can't exactly recall. 338 00:21:06,099 --> 00:21:07,767 I recorded the conversation. 339 00:21:07,851 --> 00:21:08,685 Okay. 340 00:22:50,412 --> 00:22:52,080 Could you state your name? 341 00:22:52,831 --> 00:22:54,666 David Gale Warwick. 342 00:22:56,418 --> 00:23:00,130 Do you recall the night of September 22nd, 2019? 343 00:23:01,548 --> 00:23:02,382 Yes. 344 00:23:02,882 --> 00:23:04,259 What did you do that night? 345 00:23:06,594 --> 00:23:09,848 I was doing a podcast with Melanie Gibb and Lori Vallow. 346 00:23:11,391 --> 00:23:13,768 Was JJ there when you did your podcast? 347 00:23:14,269 --> 00:23:15,270 No. 348 00:23:15,353 --> 00:23:17,605 Did you talk to Lori about JJ? 349 00:23:17,689 --> 00:23:18,606 I did. 350 00:23:20,233 --> 00:23:23,486 She said that he was, uh, being a zombie 351 00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:25,405 and climbed up on the cabinets, 352 00:23:25,488 --> 00:23:29,451 climbed up on top of the fridge, smashed her picture of Christ down, 353 00:23:29,534 --> 00:23:31,870 then climbed up onto the upper cabinets 354 00:23:31,953 --> 00:23:34,622 and got between the top of the cabinet and the ceiling. 355 00:23:35,957 --> 00:23:41,796 JJ, because of his autism, he says things on repeat. 356 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,550 That was something, when I found out, you know, like, what was going on, 357 00:23:45,633 --> 00:23:46,926 I just thought, "Oh!" 358 00:23:49,429 --> 00:23:51,890 If JJ heard something, 359 00:23:51,973 --> 00:23:56,060 or he got caught in some cycle just saying something, 360 00:23:56,895 --> 00:23:59,147 that would've made him a liability. 361 00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:04,360 I asked to see him, and she just said that he was out of control. 362 00:24:04,861 --> 00:24:06,821 So she had Alex come and get him. 363 00:24:07,655 --> 00:24:09,407 Did you see him later that night? 364 00:24:09,491 --> 00:24:10,617 -Yes. -When? 365 00:24:11,367 --> 00:24:14,621 When, uh, Alex brought him home to put him to bed. 366 00:24:14,704 --> 00:24:15,538 Okay. 367 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,125 David Warwick, he remembers this time 368 00:24:19,209 --> 00:24:22,545 he sees JJ with Alex as a tender moment. 369 00:24:22,629 --> 00:24:26,466 JJ's laying in his arms, um, 370 00:24:27,842 --> 00:24:29,928 and he's got his head on Alex's shoulder. 371 00:24:30,595 --> 00:24:33,515 And he's just peaceful. That's the last time he sees him. 372 00:24:33,598 --> 00:24:35,183 -Say hi! -Hi! 373 00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:41,606 I personally believe that when Alex brought JJ in that night, 374 00:24:41,689 --> 00:24:44,150 the night that they were working on the podcast, 375 00:24:44,234 --> 00:24:46,319 I believe that JJ was dead. 376 00:24:54,911 --> 00:24:57,121 How long have you worked for the FBI? 377 00:24:57,205 --> 00:25:00,542 For approximately six years. I'm an intelligence analyst. 378 00:25:01,209 --> 00:25:03,920 Were you asked to review data from any devices? 379 00:25:04,629 --> 00:25:06,548 Yes, I was. It was a cell phone. 380 00:25:07,131 --> 00:25:09,759 Tammy Daybell was the user of the cell phone. 381 00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:14,138 Mr. Dean, I'm gonna hand you the state's exhibit 31 for admission. 382 00:25:14,222 --> 00:25:16,766 Exhibit 31 is being handed to the witness. 383 00:25:17,475 --> 00:25:20,395 Could you please read aloud the messages in this exhibit, 384 00:25:20,478 --> 00:25:23,231 including time stamps and contact names? 385 00:25:24,107 --> 00:25:28,403 This is a copy of the messages 386 00:25:28,486 --> 00:25:33,575 sent between Chad and Tammy Daybell  on September 9th. 387 00:25:35,743 --> 00:25:37,662 -From Chad… 388 00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:06,816 Can you testify, Mr. Dean, that these messages initially caught your attention? 389 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,819 The thing that caught my attention was the date. 390 00:26:10,361 --> 00:26:11,779 Upon reading this text message, 391 00:26:11,863 --> 00:26:15,033 in which Chad appears to claim to have started a fire, 392 00:26:15,116 --> 00:26:18,703 shot and killed a large animal and buried it on his property, 393 00:26:18,786 --> 00:26:23,207 I recognized that it was sent a day after Tylee Ryan was last seen alive. 394 00:26:25,793 --> 00:26:27,962 One of the biggest revelations about this case 395 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:35,303 is the amount of time, effort, man-hours put into finding JJ and Tylee. 396 00:26:40,892 --> 00:26:45,772 And then you realize they were killed within a month of moving to Idaho, 397 00:26:45,855 --> 00:26:48,358 and were in Chad's backyard the whole time. 398 00:26:52,403 --> 00:26:54,947 Agent, what involvement did you have with the search 399 00:26:55,031 --> 00:26:56,741 on the Chad Daybell residence? 400 00:26:56,824 --> 00:27:01,079 I was the senior team leader for the Evidence Response Team 401 00:27:01,162 --> 00:27:05,249 at that search of Chad Daybell's property on those dates. 402 00:27:06,542 --> 00:27:08,127 So based on a text message, 403 00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:12,173 we knew that there was discussion of a pet cemetery. 404 00:27:13,007 --> 00:27:17,887 We make the determination based on seeing a statue of a dog. 405 00:27:18,888 --> 00:27:21,140 And then in front of the statue of the dog, 406 00:27:21,224 --> 00:27:24,018 there's what appears to be a grave. 407 00:27:25,186 --> 00:27:27,605 The difficulty, I think, for us 408 00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:32,110 was the way these human remains were found. 409 00:27:32,735 --> 00:27:36,114 So it was kind of partially burnt human remains. 410 00:27:39,033 --> 00:27:42,203 So as we continue to excavate another burial site, 411 00:27:42,704 --> 00:27:44,872 it was a little bit more complex. 412 00:27:45,873 --> 00:27:47,583 Once we removed some soil, 413 00:27:48,292 --> 00:27:51,003 I observed a small child 414 00:27:51,087 --> 00:27:53,881 in red pajamas. 415 00:27:54,465 --> 00:27:56,884 Red pajama shirt, red pajama pants. 416 00:27:59,178 --> 00:28:02,056 The most heartbreaking image from this evidence 417 00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:05,977 is a picture of JJ Vallow taken from Lori's iCloud. 418 00:28:06,978 --> 00:28:09,439 It's taken the day of September 22nd, 419 00:28:09,522 --> 00:28:12,150 and you can assume it's Lori's apartment. 420 00:28:12,233 --> 00:28:15,653 JJ's sitting on the couch wearing his red pajamas. 421 00:28:16,154 --> 00:28:18,448 A-- As you, uh, looked at this child's face, 422 00:28:18,531 --> 00:28:20,450 did you recognize this child? 423 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:22,034 Yes, I did. 424 00:28:22,618 --> 00:28:25,788 I recognized that to be Joshua Vallow. 425 00:28:31,544 --> 00:28:33,504 It's not even human 426 00:28:34,672 --> 00:28:38,926 to take your own two children that you, like, are supposed to love and care for, 427 00:28:39,802 --> 00:28:40,845 and do what they did. 428 00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:43,264 It breaks you, 429 00:28:43,848 --> 00:28:45,808 like, in a way you've never felt. 430 00:28:47,185 --> 00:28:49,437 In a surprise super-fast hearing, 431 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,482 Lori Vallow Daybell waived her right to a preliminary hearing. 432 00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:55,067 You understand that there will be no preliminary hearing 433 00:28:55,151 --> 00:28:57,111 that is currently scheduled for Monday and Tuesday. 434 00:28:57,195 --> 00:28:58,780 That will be vacated. Is-- Understand? 435 00:28:58,863 --> 00:28:59,864 Correct. 436 00:28:59,947 --> 00:29:03,242 This morning, the legal team representing the so-called "Doomsday Mom," 437 00:29:03,326 --> 00:29:07,079 Lori Vallow, are raising concerns about her mental competency. 438 00:29:07,163 --> 00:29:10,124 Now her attorneys say she's unfit to stand trial. 439 00:29:10,208 --> 00:29:12,168 The judge halting proceedings for now, 440 00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:16,130 but has yet to make a final determination on whether proceedings will continue. 441 00:29:16,214 --> 00:29:17,715 Vallow has been committed 442 00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:21,677 to an Idaho Department of Health and Welfare mental facility for 90 days, 443 00:29:21,761 --> 00:29:22,762 and when that ends, 444 00:29:22,845 --> 00:29:25,807 officials will determine whether she can proceed to trial, 445 00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:28,851 or needs additional treatment to restore her competency. 446 00:29:30,019 --> 00:29:31,938 Mr. Daybell, how do you plead? 447 00:29:32,730 --> 00:29:33,606 Not guilty. 448 00:29:34,607 --> 00:29:36,734 We'll enter the "not guilty" plea on count one. 449 00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:38,653 On count two, how do you plead? 450 00:29:38,736 --> 00:29:39,862 Not guilty. 451 00:29:40,446 --> 00:29:43,616 -On count three, how do you plead? -Not guilty. 452 00:29:43,699 --> 00:29:45,868 Chad Daybell pleaded not guilty today, 453 00:29:45,952 --> 00:29:48,538 meaning the case will go forward to a trial. 454 00:29:56,629 --> 00:29:59,882 I can't tell you the level of suffering that 455 00:30:00,466 --> 00:30:01,676 I've had to go through, 456 00:30:02,844 --> 00:30:07,431 and I'm talking the brink of my life, because of your decisions. 457 00:30:08,808 --> 00:30:10,643 Well, I'm definitely sorry about that. 458 00:30:10,726 --> 00:30:14,188 I never meant to cause you any pain of any sort, of any kind. 459 00:30:14,272 --> 00:30:15,523 I never wanted to. 460 00:30:16,816 --> 00:30:18,734 Well, I'm not the victim. 461 00:30:18,818 --> 00:30:23,447 Well, I'm sorry that you don't really fully understand the situation. 462 00:30:23,531 --> 00:30:24,365 So… 463 00:30:25,616 --> 00:30:29,954 Why weren't my siblings protected if it wasn't you? 464 00:30:30,913 --> 00:30:35,960 If you didn't do anything wrong, why were they murdered? 465 00:30:38,129 --> 00:30:39,881 I've done everything to protect them, 466 00:30:39,964 --> 00:30:41,549 their whole lives, as you know. 467 00:30:41,632 --> 00:30:44,176 Yeah, but their whole lives are gone now. 468 00:30:45,011 --> 00:30:46,095 They were killed. 469 00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:51,809 You guys decided that that was spiritually your mission, 470 00:30:52,602 --> 00:30:54,312 under the name Jesus Christ. 471 00:30:55,855 --> 00:30:58,941 I love you, but you don't know. 472 00:30:59,025 --> 00:31:00,359 You just don't know. 473 00:31:00,443 --> 00:31:01,360 You don't know. 474 00:31:01,444 --> 00:31:05,656 You need to turn your heart to Jesus Christ to let him save you. 475 00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:07,158 You will see one day. 476 00:31:07,241 --> 00:31:09,118 As I speak to you right now, 477 00:31:09,201 --> 00:31:10,661 you will see. 478 00:31:11,537 --> 00:31:13,164 Do you hear how crazy that is? 479 00:31:13,247 --> 00:31:15,458 That nothing's your fault, you did nothing wrong, 480 00:31:15,541 --> 00:31:17,168 you have no idea what happened, 481 00:31:17,251 --> 00:31:20,046 and sorry you don't have a fuller understanding. 482 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,760 It was just… To listen to her actually try to flip the script is unbelievable. 483 00:31:25,843 --> 00:31:27,970 We've got some breaking news out of Idaho. 484 00:31:28,054 --> 00:31:31,933 A grand jury just indicted a mom and her husband on murder charges 485 00:31:32,016 --> 00:31:33,976 for the deaths of her two children. 486 00:31:34,060 --> 00:31:37,855 Daybell was also charged yesterday with the murder of his late wife 487 00:31:37,939 --> 00:31:40,566 who died three months before he married Vallow. 488 00:31:40,650 --> 00:31:44,487 Our other big story tonight: Lori Daybell indicted here in the valley, 489 00:31:44,570 --> 00:31:47,365 accused of conspiring to murder her ex-husband. 490 00:31:47,448 --> 00:31:51,535 Now a grand jury believes Lori and Alex conspired that at least one of them 491 00:31:51,619 --> 00:31:53,621 was going to commit first-degree murder. 492 00:31:53,704 --> 00:31:57,416 Meanwhile, Lori is currently in a state medical facility in Idaho 493 00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:00,711 undergoing restorative treatment after being found incompetent 494 00:32:00,795 --> 00:32:03,631 to under-- understand the charges against her in Idaho. 495 00:32:07,176 --> 00:32:09,595 I want to be as kind to her as I can be. 496 00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:17,728 I don't see any reason to pile on to somebody that's done something so awful. 497 00:32:17,812 --> 00:32:20,523 I think whatever happens will just happen. 498 00:32:21,649 --> 00:32:23,025 She's in jail, 499 00:32:23,609 --> 00:32:26,445 and I think she'll be there the rest of her life. 500 00:32:27,196 --> 00:32:30,241 So there is gonna be justice done. 501 00:32:33,202 --> 00:32:36,205 We did have a wonderful family before this happened. 502 00:32:38,666 --> 00:32:42,837 I don't know. I don't know if it's strong enough to stand this or not. 503 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,338 We'll just have to see. 504 00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:50,886 We are in Kauai on Hanalei Bay. 505 00:32:52,054 --> 00:32:54,640 One of our favorite places as a family. 506 00:32:55,474 --> 00:33:00,271 We're gonna be doing a memorial for Charles and JJ and Tylee. 507 00:33:00,354 --> 00:33:04,400 And it's something that we've been needing for a really long time. 508 00:33:07,862 --> 00:33:11,657 It's to honor them and to remember them, and this is the place. 509 00:33:12,867 --> 00:33:15,536 I'm so grateful that this gets to happen here. 510 00:33:16,704 --> 00:33:18,122 Kauai was such a happy place. 511 00:33:18,956 --> 00:33:22,168 My brother, my sister, loved being here, 512 00:33:22,752 --> 00:33:25,004 and I remember the things we did here. 513 00:33:30,384 --> 00:33:32,261 Charles, I just want to… 514 00:33:37,224 --> 00:33:40,269 I just want to thank you for being my dad. 515 00:33:45,024 --> 00:33:46,859 I know you never deserved what happened to you, 516 00:33:46,942 --> 00:33:49,987 but I wouldn't have the life that I had without you. 517 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,714 JJ, I just can't tell you how much I love you. 518 00:34:10,341 --> 00:34:13,135 You're the greatest little brother anybody could ever ask for, 519 00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:14,720 and I love you so much. 520 00:34:21,769 --> 00:34:25,773 Tylee, you're who made me a big brother, and… 521 00:34:29,068 --> 00:34:33,823 I'll never forget how much I immediately fell in love with you 522 00:34:33,906 --> 00:34:37,535 and immediately wanted to protect you from everything in life, 523 00:34:38,285 --> 00:34:39,120 and… 524 00:34:47,002 --> 00:34:48,087 I love all of you, 525 00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:50,005 and… 526 00:34:52,258 --> 00:34:53,676 I'm grateful for all of you. 527 00:35:08,399 --> 00:35:09,358 It's okay. 528 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,741 -I love you. -I love you. 529 00:35:22,621 --> 00:35:24,999 To me, it still kind of just doesn't feel real. 530 00:35:25,624 --> 00:35:28,002 But it's been really hard on all of us. 531 00:35:28,669 --> 00:35:30,337 Throughout all of this, we-- 532 00:35:30,421 --> 00:35:33,507 Colby and I have tried to make Riley's life as normal as possible. 533 00:35:34,258 --> 00:35:36,510 We're definitely gonna let her know what happened. 534 00:35:36,594 --> 00:35:38,512 We don't really know how yet. 535 00:35:38,596 --> 00:35:41,599 But she knows Tylee and JJ's faces. 536 00:35:42,183 --> 00:35:44,560 We have their pictures everywhere all over our house. 537 00:35:45,102 --> 00:35:48,397 I made Colby a photo blanket with, um, their pictures on it, 538 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,649 and it's hanging up in her playroom. 539 00:35:52,776 --> 00:35:55,988 And she'll walk up to it and she'll go, "Ty-Ty. JJ." 540 00:35:57,031 --> 00:35:59,033 I think that's been the main thing for us right now, 541 00:35:59,116 --> 00:36:03,495 is showing her who they are, showing her videos, and saying their names 542 00:36:03,579 --> 00:36:05,289 and really helping her remember them. 543 00:36:08,042 --> 00:36:10,127 We have to live with what happened. 544 00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:14,423 And what am I gonna focus on? Am I gonna focus on their death, 545 00:36:14,506 --> 00:36:17,176 or am I gonna focus on their memory and honoring them? 546 00:36:18,052 --> 00:36:20,638 They don't want us sitting here broken, 547 00:36:20,721 --> 00:36:23,641 destroyed by everything because they're gone. 548 00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:31,899 I just really feel like I'm making it through 549 00:36:31,982 --> 00:36:34,735 because of Kelsee and Riley. 550 00:36:34,818 --> 00:36:37,154 If I didn't have Riley, if I didn't have my wife, 551 00:36:37,238 --> 00:36:38,948 like, I don't think I would-- 552 00:36:39,031 --> 00:36:41,825 I'd probably would have just died from sadness. 553 00:36:43,244 --> 00:36:45,871 Like, I have a purpose besides myself. 554 00:36:47,665 --> 00:36:52,378 My biggest fear is that my mom's story becomes our family's story. 555 00:36:54,129 --> 00:36:56,507 She's not going to define anything else. 556 00:36:57,758 --> 00:36:59,176 I know that in my heart.