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[Justin] At this point
in the investigation,
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you know, there's indication
there's a lot more to be discovered.
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Then, all of a sudden,
I get a message in my inbox.
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It's a link to a folder
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full of, I kid you not,
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six hundred sixty-six photos.
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In the photos are
Chad and Lori getting married.
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Seeing Chad and Lori in all white,
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dancing on the beach together
after Tammy has just died.
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My jaw is to the floor.
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Lori had a green malachite ring.
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We know from the Amazon order
that Lori ordered this malachite ring
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when Tammy was still alive.
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When those photos came out, this exploded.
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[reporter] Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell
got married here on a beach in Kauai,
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just 13 days after the memorial
of Chad's first wife Tammy.
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[Colby] It was so deflating
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to see them together,
in Kauai of all places.
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And there's no trace of the kids.
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Tylee's sixteen. JJ's seven.
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Where are they?
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Why aren't the kids behind you?
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I started having a lot of dreams.
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I think I dreamed about Tylee, JJ,
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Charles, my mom, or Chad every night.
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Every single time I woke up,
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I had this feeling
deep inside of my stomach, in my spirit,
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there was something wrong.
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But they have to be safe.
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[baby crying]
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[Lori] Well, hello.
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[Colby] Because my mom has
spent her whole life protecting us kids.
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[Lori] JJ!
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[Colby] I had the battling thought,
"Are they even alive?"
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I'm like, "No, there's no way.
They're not alive."
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[Lori] Happy birthday.
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[Colby] How could that be possible?
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[Colby] I'm sitting in the courtroom,
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and it feels like a movie,
like it's not real life.
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She walked in like a character.
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She's weirdly-- Has this weird makeup on,
it looked like she--
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I don't even know-- colored it on.
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And she's in a jumpsuit.
She's this villain.
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And she just looked at Brandon,
she looked at Kay,
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and Larry, just smiled at them.
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Like, why? Why-- Like, I remember
just thinking, what are you doing?
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What are-- Like, I wanted to
scream it out. What are you doing?
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[man] Since this last summer,
there's been a clear and alarming
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pattern in the defendant's life.
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There are literally
three active investigations
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of suspicious deaths
that she is related to.
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And it is alarming to the state.
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And the most aggravating factor
is that the children are still missing.
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And the defendant
has completely and utterly
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refused to aid in
any attempts to find the children,
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even before charges were filed.
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[judge] With that,
bail will be set at one million dollars.
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We'll be in recess.
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[bailiff] All rise.
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[Colby] I sat up, like,
trying to get her attention.
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I wanted her to know I was there.
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And I just remember
her connection to him, seeing him.
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And I remember how she looked at him.
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You're looking at him as like--
Like there's something there.
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Are you-- Like, you don't know him.
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How do-- How have you had
enough time to get comfortable enough
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to be in a bad situation,
look at him, and find comfort?
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She just walked by.
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And that's when I stood up and saw him,
and I locked eyes with him.
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I was like, I just want to
come punch you in the face.
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And I looked at him, and he looked scared.
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I saw him cower.
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I just feel like--
I know there's something wrong with you.
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-[car horn honking]
-[reporters] Where are the kids, Chad?
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Where are the kids?
Where are the kids, Chad?
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You've already said the kids are okay.
Can you say that now?
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Hey, Chad, where are the kids?
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Chad…
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[Colby] That night, I called the jail.
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I'm her son. I just need to talk to her.
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[on recording] You know I love you.
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That's why this is
the hardest conversation I could ever have
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with anybody in my whole life.
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You're not the same mom that I know.
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You're not the one that
raised me to understand Jesus.
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[Lori] Really?
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Really?
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[Colby] I hope that you turn your heart,
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turn to the true Christ so you can
come back from whatever this is.
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I've always trusted you my whole life.
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I would have never thought you
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would have ever done something like this.
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[Lori] What is it that
you think that I've done?
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[Colby] I remember
we had this conversation.
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She started bringing up Abraham and Isaac.
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In Abraham and Isaac,
the whole entire story,
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is that Abraham is told
to sacrifice his son.
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He was trying to keep his faith.
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And just to trust that God had a plan.
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So when he went to actually do it,
raising the knife ready to go,
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God told him to stop.
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It was just a test of faith.
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Why would you even say that?
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You know that I'm
asking you every day about my siblings.
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But she reaffirmed it
to me almost every day.
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"Yes. They're fine.
Everything's gonna be fine."
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So it started to
build up more and more of…
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there's a thread of hope.
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[Janis] I thought there was a chance
that they could be different places.
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That she had asked someone
to put the kids with them for a while.
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And so the first time
that she called from the jail,
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she said, "The kids are fine."
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She said,
"You know what kind of mother I am."
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"I would never hurt the kids."
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That's what she said.
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And she said,
"They're in a very safe place."
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I didn't think they were missing.
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I thought Lori knew where they were.
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So I felt like it's important
to tell the truth about our family.
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[reporter] Family members
of a woman at the center of a
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high-profile missing children's case
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are publicly defending her
for the very first time.
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There is no way she did anything to them.
There's just no way.
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Yeah. We really think that
she did nothing wrong. I-- She…
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[Colby] I'm just really
not sure why my grandma
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and my aunt wanted to do interviews.
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I remember how dumb
I thought it was to even say anything.
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Why are you supporting her?
She's obvious-- There's something wrong.
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And I just thought
that was a really bad move
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to try to defend her at that point.
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I have faith in her, as a mother,
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that she's doing the best
she knows how for her children.
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[woman] It was hard for me to watch that.
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I felt like there was a lot of denial,
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just not even wanting to look at the
reality that the children were missing.
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Um, it's like I
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couldn't understand if it was
denial or if it was damage control.
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Do you think she's in a cult?
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-No. No. We don't.
-No.
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You don't think that Chad brainwashed her?
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No! [laughing]
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No. He couldn't do it. It's not possible.
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But they were right. We were wrong.
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I-- I should never say "I know" again.
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I don't really know.
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I just think that…
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Who knew it would get worse?
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[Justin] Investigators get
access to Lori's iCloud account,
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and that's where they find
a photo from September 8th, 2019.
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A picture of JJ, Tylee, and Alex
at Yellowstone National Park.
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[reporter 1] The FBI and the
Rexburg Police Department
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are now asking anyone
who visited Yellowstone National Park
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on September 8th, 2019,
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to send them photos or video that
might help them in their investigation.
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Police have determined both children
were at Yellowstone that day
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with Lori and Lori's brother Alex Cox.
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This is the last known photo of Tylee.
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[reporter 1] The FBI says
the group was traveling
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in this truck belonging to Alex Cox.
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[reporter 2] Cox has been linked to the
deaths of Charles Vallow, Tammy Daybell…
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[Justin] But when Alex died,
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a crucial piece of the puzzle
was now missing,
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but FBI had his cell phone.
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They used cell phone data
and the GPS pings,
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and they traced his steps
to Chad Daybell's property in September,
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when JJ and Tylee went missing.
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On the ninth, Alex's phone locates him
in the backyard for two and a half hours.
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The FBI also secured Tammy's phone,
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so they learned, 14 minutes after
Alex left the Daybell residence,
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Chad texted Tammy.
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[phone notification]
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Finally, on June 9th, 2020,
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law enforcement is once again
headed to the Daybell residence.
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[Nate] All right,
for those of you just tuning in,
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we are about a minute away
from Chad Daybell's home,
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and we, uh…
The police are serving a search warrant.
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Rexburg Police,
Fremont County Sheriff's Office,
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the FBI, they are all here.
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Here's what we can see.
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Uh, there are
multiple police officers here.
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There's at least one K9 dog.
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They have set up
three or four blue canopy tents.
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They have taped off the backyard.
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That seems to be
the area of focus right now.
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No word--
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We're not sure where
Chad Daybell is at this moment.
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[on recording]
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[Lori speaking]
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[Chad speaking]
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[Lori speaking]
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[Chad speaking]
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[reporter] Chad Daybell was
watching the search very closely,
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and eventually tried to leave in his SUV.
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[Nate] The witnesses we spoke to said
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it looked like
Chad Daybell was driving very fast.
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[man] I saw his car take off
down the road and, just seconds later,
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the, the marked police cars
had their lights and sirens,
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and floored it to go catch him.
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[sirens wailing]
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[Colby] The FBI called me, and they said,
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"Colby, they arrested Chad today."
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"And they found
human remains on his property."
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I could have just died right there.
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My body was, like, ready to faint.
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So then I started asking her questions
like, "Is it a little skeleton?"
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"Is it a little person? Is it a teenager?"
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"Do you know?" and she didn't know.
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And they hadn't even
been able to get to that process.
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An autopsy will be, uh, conducted.
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Um, shortly after
the remains were discovered,
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uh, Chad Daybell was taken into custody.
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[Colby] It was just horrible to
even know that there was human remains.
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Like, I didn't wanna know
if it really was them.
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A huge day, probably one of
the biggest in this case so far.
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[reporter 1] Authorities served a
search warrant on Daybell's home,
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leading to the discovery
of what now police confirm
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is two sets of human remains.
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[reporter 2] Near the fire pit
and pet cemetery,
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they found human bones and charred tissue.
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[Lauren] We are gonna be out here
as we slowly start learning these details.
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[Colby] You just try somehow, some way,
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to rationalize and protect yourself
from being hurt in that moment,
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but in my heart, I knew it was them.
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[Justin] When I got the call
from Kay Woodcock this morning,
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she held back tears, telling me
one set of the human remains found
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belong to her grandson, JJ.
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Then, a couple of hours later,
family members confirmed
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the second set of remains
are of Tylee Ryan.
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[reporter] Their bodies have been
unearthed from a shallow grave in Idaho.
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[Lauren] A very emotional moment
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now facing the reality of
what happened to these children.
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…say you find… [crying]
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[sniffles] I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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-[reporter] We're all with you.
-[sniffles and sighs]
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It was a horrible,
awful, terrible realization.
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I said I knew Lori
couldn't hurt her kids, and I was wrong.
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-[Lori laughing] What?
-[JJ] Hello.
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[Janis] Those two beautiful…
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Hi, my name is Tylee.
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…talented, loving, generous kids…
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[JJ] Oh, my gosh.
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…had so much to offer
and so much to experience.
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-Picture. Cheese.
-[man] Cheese.
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[sniffles] I can't think
about them without crying.
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[woman] I was honestly, like, angry.
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It was just, like,
I was angry that this was real. [sniffles]
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Yeah.
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[Colby] Say hello.
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-Say hello.
-Hi, JJ.
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-Hi, JJ.
-Hi, Colby.
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Hi, Colby.
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I just-- I just miss JJ and Ty.
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Like, it's hard to talk about them.
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Yeah. It's just hard.
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[phone beeps]
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[automated voice] An inmate
at the Madison County Jail.
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[Lori] How are you, bubba?
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[Colby] I'm not good, Mom.
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[Lori] I'm so sorry.
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[Colby] You're sorry?
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[Lori] Of course I am.
-[Colby] You're sorry.
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Are you sorry for me?
Or are you sorry for my siblings?
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My brother, who's
seven years old, is dead.
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And my little sister, who's 16, is dead.
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What I've seen
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-is that you moved away--
-[Lori] And you've seen it?
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You were there, so you saw
everything that happened, huh?
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That's interesting.
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[Colby] This did not just happen.
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They were murdered.
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And the reason I'm calling you is
because I can't even fathom what happened.
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I miss my family, Mom.
283
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[Lori] I know, baby. Me too. So do I.
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[Colby] What do you mean you miss them?
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How can you miss them, Mom?
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[Lori] How can I not?
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How can I not?
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They're my babies!
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[Justin] Both parents face two charges of
conspiracy to conceal or destroy evidence.
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00:17:26,046 --> 00:17:28,298
Still, nobody is facing murder charges
291
00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:31,051
related to Tammy's
death or the kids' death.
292
00:17:31,134 --> 00:17:35,347
Some Idaho attorneys say they hope
and believe police have more evidence
293
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that has not been released yet.
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[reporter 1] Chad Daybell will appear
in court tomorrow beginning at 11 a.m.
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[reporter 2] Daybell's preliminary hearing
will be livestreamed from Idaho
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for the next two days.
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[judge] This is the case
of State of Idaho v. Chad Guy Daybell.
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Mr. Wood, you may call your first witness.
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[Wood] Thank you.
The State calls Ray Hermosillo.
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[judge] Sir, you can be seated
here at the witness stand.
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If you'll give your full name as well
as your occupation, we'll get started.
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00:18:01,623 --> 00:18:02,958
Ray Dennis Hermosillo.
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00:18:03,834 --> 00:18:06,294
I'm a detective with
the Rexburg Police Department.
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[Wood] Detective,
have you ever had the opportunity
305
00:18:08,463 --> 00:18:09,840
to meet the defendant Chad Daybell?
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00:18:10,674 --> 00:18:11,508
Yes.
307
00:18:11,591 --> 00:18:14,302
I was contacted
by Gilbert Police Department.
308
00:18:14,845 --> 00:18:18,140
I was asked to do a welfare
check on a seven-year-old boy
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00:18:18,223 --> 00:18:20,433
by the name of Joshua Jackson Vallow.
310
00:18:20,517 --> 00:18:24,104
Myself and Detective Hope
went to Lori Vallow's residence.
311
00:18:24,187 --> 00:18:28,066
We ended up making contact
with the defendant, Mr. Daybell,
312
00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:29,860
and Alex Cox.
313
00:18:30,443 --> 00:18:34,030
I asked Mr. Daybell
how he knew Lori Vallow,
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00:18:34,114 --> 00:18:39,619
and he stated that he had only met
her a couple of times through Alex Cox.
315
00:18:40,704 --> 00:18:42,038
[Wood] What did you ask him?
316
00:18:42,122 --> 00:18:45,834
[Hermosillo] I asked Mr. Daybell
when's the last time he saw JJ,
317
00:18:46,626 --> 00:18:51,339
and he stated that he saw JJ
in Apartment 107 in October.
318
00:18:52,048 --> 00:18:56,052
I asked Mr. Daybell
for Lori Vallow's phone number,
319
00:18:56,136 --> 00:18:57,596
and he stated he didn't have it.
320
00:18:58,889 --> 00:19:02,559
Detective Hope had come back
to where we were speaking.
321
00:19:04,019 --> 00:19:06,980
I again asked Mr. Daybell
if he had Lori's phone number,
322
00:19:07,063 --> 00:19:10,025
and at that point, he gave me
Lori Vallow's phone number.
323
00:19:10,108 --> 00:19:12,861
[Wood] Okay, did you ask him
why he hadn't given you that number?
324
00:19:12,944 --> 00:19:15,238
-[Hermosillo] I did.
-[Wood] And what was his response?
325
00:19:15,822 --> 00:19:18,783
He stated that he felt like
I was accusing him of something.
326
00:19:20,202 --> 00:19:23,163
[Wood] Did you have any contact
with Lori Vallow that day?
327
00:19:23,747 --> 00:19:25,874
[Hermosillo] I did not have
any contact with Lori. No.
328
00:19:25,957 --> 00:19:28,627
[Wood] Okay. Were you
still with Detective Hope?
329
00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:29,544
I was.
330
00:19:29,628 --> 00:19:32,672
[Wood] Did he-- Do you know if he had
contact with Lori Vallow that day?
331
00:19:32,756 --> 00:19:33,590
He did.
332
00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:34,591
[door opening]
333
00:19:35,091 --> 00:19:36,718
-[Hope] Hi. Are you Lori?
-[Lori] Hi.
334
00:19:37,719 --> 00:19:39,346
[Hope] Okay. So…
335
00:19:39,429 --> 00:19:40,972
JJ would be where?
336
00:19:41,056 --> 00:19:42,933
[Lori] He's with
one of my friends in Arizona.
337
00:19:44,351 --> 00:19:45,644
Her name is Melanie Gibb.
338
00:19:46,978 --> 00:19:48,980
Miss Gibb, if you'll please come forward.
339
00:19:49,773 --> 00:19:51,483
Be seated here at this witness chair.
340
00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:56,488
[Wood] Miss Gibb, I'm gonna
call your attention to
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the date of November 26th, 2019.
342
00:19:59,574 --> 00:20:02,827
What contact, if any, did you
have with Mr. Daybell that day?
343
00:20:04,079 --> 00:20:08,708
I received a phone call from
Chad Daybell from his cell phone.
344
00:20:09,334 --> 00:20:12,295
He said, "Hi, Melanie, this is Chad."
345
00:20:13,046 --> 00:20:17,467
Um, "The Rexburg Police
are gonna call you. Don't pick up."
346
00:20:19,386 --> 00:20:24,933
He let me know that the police were
over at Lori Vallow's home in Rexburg,
347
00:20:25,684 --> 00:20:30,605
and that, um, they were
inquiring about where JJ was,
348
00:20:31,606 --> 00:20:35,902
and that she was going to
tell the police that JJ was with me.
349
00:20:37,487 --> 00:20:39,781
I said, "JJ's not at Kay's house?"
350
00:20:41,449 --> 00:20:43,618
[Wood] How did
Mr. Daybell respond to that?
351
00:20:43,702 --> 00:20:44,703
He said, "No."
352
00:20:45,704 --> 00:20:49,165
[Wood] Was there any other
content to that conversation?
353
00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:52,585
I asked him if he was nervous,
and he said, "Yes."
354
00:20:53,837 --> 00:20:58,800
[Wood] And approximately what time
did you hear from Lori Vallow?
355
00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:00,593
I…
356
00:21:01,177 --> 00:21:03,430
Possibly within an hour or two.
357
00:21:03,513 --> 00:21:05,432
I can't exactly recall.
358
00:21:06,099 --> 00:21:07,767
I recorded the conversation.
359
00:21:07,851 --> 00:21:08,685
[Wood] Okay.
360
00:21:09,269 --> 00:21:11,271
[phone ringing]
361
00:22:50,412 --> 00:22:52,080
[Wood] Could you state your name?
362
00:22:52,831 --> 00:22:54,666
David Gale Warwick.
363
00:22:56,418 --> 00:23:00,130
[Wood] Do you recall the night
of September 22nd, 2019?
364
00:23:01,548 --> 00:23:02,382
[Warwick] Yes.
365
00:23:02,882 --> 00:23:04,259
What did you do that night?
366
00:23:06,594 --> 00:23:09,848
[Warwick] I was doing a podcast
with Melanie Gibb and Lori Vallow.
367
00:23:11,391 --> 00:23:13,768
Was JJ there when you did your podcast?
368
00:23:14,269 --> 00:23:15,270
[Warwick] No.
369
00:23:15,353 --> 00:23:17,605
[Wood] Did you talk to Lori about JJ?
370
00:23:17,689 --> 00:23:18,606
[Warwick] I did.
371
00:23:20,233 --> 00:23:23,486
She said that he was, uh, being a zombie
372
00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:25,405
and climbed up on the cabinets,
373
00:23:25,488 --> 00:23:29,451
climbed up on top of the fridge,
smashed her picture of Christ down,
374
00:23:29,534 --> 00:23:31,870
then climbed up onto the upper cabinets
375
00:23:31,953 --> 00:23:34,622
and got between the
top of the cabinet and the ceiling.
376
00:23:35,957 --> 00:23:41,796
[woman] JJ, because of his autism,
he says things on repeat.
377
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,550
That was something, when I found out,
you know, like, what was going on,
378
00:23:45,633 --> 00:23:46,926
I just thought, "Oh!"
379
00:23:49,429 --> 00:23:51,890
If JJ heard something,
380
00:23:51,973 --> 00:23:56,060
or he got caught in some
cycle just saying something,
381
00:23:56,895 --> 00:23:59,147
that would've made him a liability.
382
00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:04,360
I asked to see him, and she just
said that he was out of control.
383
00:24:04,861 --> 00:24:06,821
So she had Alex come and get him.
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00:24:07,655 --> 00:24:09,407
[Wood] Did you see him later that night?
385
00:24:09,491 --> 00:24:10,617
-[Warwick] Yes.
-When?
386
00:24:11,367 --> 00:24:14,621
When, uh, Alex brought
him home to put him to bed.
387
00:24:14,704 --> 00:24:15,538
[Wood] Okay.
388
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,125
[Justin] David Warwick,
he remembers this time
389
00:24:19,209 --> 00:24:22,545
he sees JJ with Alex as a tender moment.
390
00:24:22,629 --> 00:24:26,466
JJ's laying in his arms, um,
391
00:24:27,842 --> 00:24:29,928
and he's got his head on Alex's shoulder.
392
00:24:30,595 --> 00:24:33,515
And he's just peaceful.
That's the last time he sees him.
393
00:24:33,598 --> 00:24:35,183
-[Lori] Say hi!
-Hi!
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00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:41,606
I personally believe that
when Alex brought JJ in that night,
395
00:24:41,689 --> 00:24:44,150
the night that they were
working on the podcast,
396
00:24:44,234 --> 00:24:46,319
I believe that JJ was dead.
397
00:24:46,861 --> 00:24:50,740
[JJ speaking unintelligibly]
398
00:24:54,911 --> 00:24:57,121
[prosecutor] How long
have you worked for the FBI?
399
00:24:57,205 --> 00:25:00,542
[FBI agent 1] For approximately six years.
I'm an intelligence analyst.
400
00:25:01,209 --> 00:25:03,920
[prosecutor] Were you asked
to review data from any devices?
401
00:25:04,629 --> 00:25:06,548
[FBI agent 1] Yes, I was.
It was a cell phone.
402
00:25:07,131 --> 00:25:09,759
Tammy Daybell was
the user of the cell phone.
403
00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:14,138
[prosecutor] Mr. Dean, I'm gonna hand you
the state's exhibit 31 for admission.
404
00:25:14,222 --> 00:25:16,766
[judge] Exhibit 31 is
being handed to the witness.
405
00:25:17,475 --> 00:25:20,395
[prosecutor] Could you please read
aloud the messages in this exhibit,
406
00:25:20,478 --> 00:25:23,231
including time stamps and contact names?
407
00:25:24,107 --> 00:25:28,403
This is a copy of the messages
408
00:25:28,486 --> 00:25:33,575
sent between Chad and
Tammy Daybell on September 9th.
409
00:25:35,743 --> 00:25:37,662
-[Benjamin] From Chad…
-[phone notification]
410
00:25:37,745 --> 00:25:39,706
[Benjamin reading text]
411
00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:00,602
[phone notification]
412
00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:06,816
Can you testify, Mr. Dean, that these
messages initially caught your attention?
413
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,819
[Benjamin] The thing that
caught my attention was the date.
414
00:26:10,361 --> 00:26:11,779
Upon reading this text message,
415
00:26:11,863 --> 00:26:15,033
in which Chad appears
to claim to have started a fire,
416
00:26:15,116 --> 00:26:18,703
shot and killed a large animal
and buried it on his property,
417
00:26:18,786 --> 00:26:23,207
I recognized that it was sent a day
after Tylee Ryan was last seen alive.
418
00:26:25,793 --> 00:26:27,962
One of the biggest
revelations about this case
419
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:35,303
is the amount of time, effort,
man-hours put into finding JJ and Tylee.
420
00:26:40,892 --> 00:26:45,772
And then you realize they were killed
within a month of moving to Idaho,
421
00:26:45,855 --> 00:26:48,358
and were in Chad's
backyard the whole time.
422
00:26:52,403 --> 00:26:54,947
[prosecutor] Agent, what involvement
did you have with the search
423
00:26:55,031 --> 00:26:56,741
on the Chad Daybell residence?
424
00:26:56,824 --> 00:27:01,079
[FBI agent 2] I was the senior team leader
for the Evidence Response Team
425
00:27:01,162 --> 00:27:05,249
at that search of Chad Daybell's
property on those dates.
426
00:27:06,542 --> 00:27:08,127
So based on a text message,
427
00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:12,173
we knew that there was discussion
of a pet cemetery.
428
00:27:13,007 --> 00:27:17,887
We make the determination
based on seeing a statue of a dog.
429
00:27:18,888 --> 00:27:21,140
And then in front
of the statue of the dog,
430
00:27:21,224 --> 00:27:24,018
there's what appears to be a grave.
431
00:27:25,186 --> 00:27:27,605
The difficulty, I think, for us
432
00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:32,110
was the way these
human remains were found.
433
00:27:32,735 --> 00:27:36,114
So it was kind of
partially burnt human remains.
434
00:27:39,033 --> 00:27:42,203
So as we continue to
excavate another burial site,
435
00:27:42,704 --> 00:27:44,872
it was a little bit more complex.
436
00:27:45,873 --> 00:27:47,583
[Hermosillo] Once we removed some soil,
437
00:27:48,292 --> 00:27:51,003
I observed a small child
438
00:27:51,087 --> 00:27:53,881
in red pajamas.
439
00:27:54,465 --> 00:27:56,884
Red pajama shirt, red pajama pants.
440
00:27:59,178 --> 00:28:02,056
The most heartbreaking
image from this evidence
441
00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:05,977
is a picture of JJ Vallow
taken from Lori's iCloud.
442
00:28:06,978 --> 00:28:09,439
It's taken the day of September 22nd,
443
00:28:09,522 --> 00:28:12,150
and you can assume it's Lori's apartment.
444
00:28:12,233 --> 00:28:15,653
JJ's sitting on the couch
wearing his red pajamas.
445
00:28:16,154 --> 00:28:18,448
A-- As you, uh,
looked at this child's face,
446
00:28:18,531 --> 00:28:20,450
did you recognize this child?
447
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:22,034
[Hermosillo] Yes, I did.
448
00:28:22,618 --> 00:28:25,788
I recognized that to be Joshua Vallow.
449
00:28:31,544 --> 00:28:33,504
[Colby] It's not even human
450
00:28:34,672 --> 00:28:38,926
to take your own two children that you,
like, are supposed to love and care for,
451
00:28:39,802 --> 00:28:40,845
and do what they did.
452
00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:43,264
It breaks you,
453
00:28:43,848 --> 00:28:45,808
like, in a way you've never felt.
454
00:28:47,185 --> 00:28:49,437
[reporter 1] In a surprise
super-fast hearing,
455
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,482
Lori Vallow Daybell waived
her right to a preliminary hearing.
456
00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:55,067
[judge] You understand that
there will be no preliminary hearing
457
00:28:55,151 --> 00:28:57,111
that is currently scheduled
for Monday and Tuesday.
458
00:28:57,195 --> 00:28:58,780
That will be vacated. Is-- Understand?
459
00:28:58,863 --> 00:28:59,864
Correct.
460
00:28:59,947 --> 00:29:03,242
[reporter 2] This morning, the legal team
representing the so-called "Doomsday Mom,"
461
00:29:03,326 --> 00:29:07,079
Lori Vallow, are raising concerns
about her mental competency.
462
00:29:07,163 --> 00:29:10,124
Now her attorneys say
she's unfit to stand trial.
463
00:29:10,208 --> 00:29:12,168
[reporter 3] The judge
halting proceedings for now,
464
00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:16,130
but has yet to make a final determination
on whether proceedings will continue.
465
00:29:16,214 --> 00:29:17,715
[reporter 4] Vallow has been committed
466
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:21,677
to an Idaho Department of Health
and Welfare mental facility for 90 days,
467
00:29:21,761 --> 00:29:22,762
and when that ends,
468
00:29:22,845 --> 00:29:25,807
officials will determine
whether she can proceed to trial,
469
00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:28,851
or needs additional treatment
to restore her competency.
470
00:29:30,019 --> 00:29:31,938
[judge] Mr. Daybell, how do you plead?
471
00:29:32,730 --> 00:29:33,606
[Chad] Not guilty.
472
00:29:34,607 --> 00:29:36,734
[judge] We'll enter the
"not guilty" plea on count one.
473
00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:38,653
On count two, how do you plead?
474
00:29:38,736 --> 00:29:39,862
Not guilty.
475
00:29:40,446 --> 00:29:43,616
-[judge] On count three, how do you plead?
-Not guilty.
476
00:29:43,699 --> 00:29:45,868
[reporter] Chad Daybell
pleaded not guilty today,
477
00:29:45,952 --> 00:29:48,538
meaning the case
will go forward to a trial.
478
00:29:54,043 --> 00:29:55,044
[phone beeps]
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00:29:56,629 --> 00:29:59,882
[Colby, on recording] I can't
tell you the level of suffering that
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00:30:00,466 --> 00:30:01,676
I've had to go through,
481
00:30:02,844 --> 00:30:07,431
and I'm talking the brink of my life,
because of your decisions.
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00:30:08,808 --> 00:30:10,643
[Lori] Well, I'm
definitely sorry about that.
483
00:30:10,726 --> 00:30:14,188
I never meant to cause you
any pain of any sort, of any kind.
484
00:30:14,272 --> 00:30:15,523
I never wanted to.
485
00:30:16,816 --> 00:30:18,734
[Colby] Well, I'm not the victim.
486
00:30:18,818 --> 00:30:23,447
[Lori] Well, I'm sorry that you don't
really fully understand the situation.
487
00:30:23,531 --> 00:30:24,365
So…
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00:30:25,616 --> 00:30:29,954
[Colby] Why weren't my
siblings protected if it wasn't you?
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00:30:30,913 --> 00:30:35,960
If you didn't do anything wrong,
why were they murdered?
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00:30:38,129 --> 00:30:39,881
[Lori] I've done everything
to protect them,
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00:30:39,964 --> 00:30:41,549
their whole lives, as you know.
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00:30:41,632 --> 00:30:44,176
[Colby] Yeah, but their
whole lives are gone now.
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00:30:45,011 --> 00:30:46,095
They were killed.
494
00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:51,809
You guys decided that
that was spiritually your mission,
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00:30:52,602 --> 00:30:54,312
under the name Jesus Christ.
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00:30:55,855 --> 00:30:58,941
[Lori] I love you, but you don't know.
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00:30:59,025 --> 00:31:00,359
You just don't know.
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00:31:00,443 --> 00:31:01,360
[Colby] You don't know.
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00:31:01,444 --> 00:31:05,656
You need to turn your heart
to Jesus Christ to let him save you.
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00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:07,158
[Lori] You will see one day.
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00:31:07,241 --> 00:31:09,118
As I speak to you right now,
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00:31:09,201 --> 00:31:10,661
you will see.
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00:31:11,537 --> 00:31:13,164
[Colby] Do you hear how crazy that is?
504
00:31:13,247 --> 00:31:15,458
That nothing's your fault,
you did nothing wrong,
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00:31:15,541 --> 00:31:17,168
you have no idea what happened,
506
00:31:17,251 --> 00:31:20,046
and sorry you don't have
a fuller understanding.
507
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,760
It was just… To listen to her actually
try to flip the script is unbelievable.
508
00:31:25,843 --> 00:31:27,970
[reporter 1] We've got some
breaking news out of Idaho.
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00:31:28,054 --> 00:31:31,933
A grand jury just indicted a mom
and her husband on murder charges
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00:31:32,016 --> 00:31:33,976
for the deaths of her two children.
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00:31:34,060 --> 00:31:37,855
[reporter 2] Daybell was also charged
yesterday with the murder of his late wife
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00:31:37,939 --> 00:31:40,566
who died three months
before he married Vallow.
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00:31:40,650 --> 00:31:44,487
Our other big story tonight:
Lori Daybell indicted here in the valley,
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00:31:44,570 --> 00:31:47,365
accused of conspiring
to murder her ex-husband.
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00:31:47,448 --> 00:31:51,535
Now a grand jury believes Lori and Alex
conspired that at least one of them
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00:31:51,619 --> 00:31:53,621
was going to commit first-degree murder.
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00:31:53,704 --> 00:31:57,416
Meanwhile, Lori is currently
in a state medical facility in Idaho
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00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:00,711
undergoing restorative treatment
after being found incompetent
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00:32:00,795 --> 00:32:03,631
to under-- understand
the charges against her in Idaho.
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00:32:07,176 --> 00:32:09,595
[Janis] I want to be
as kind to her as I can be.
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00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:17,728
I don't see any reason to pile on to
somebody that's done something so awful.
522
00:32:17,812 --> 00:32:20,523
I think whatever happens will just happen.
523
00:32:21,649 --> 00:32:23,025
She's in jail,
524
00:32:23,609 --> 00:32:26,445
and I think she'll
be there the rest of her life.
525
00:32:27,196 --> 00:32:30,241
So there is gonna be justice done.
526
00:32:33,202 --> 00:32:36,205
We did have a wonderful
family before this happened.
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00:32:38,666 --> 00:32:42,837
I don't know. I don't know if it's
strong enough to stand this or not.
528
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,338
We'll just have to see.
529
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:50,886
[Colby] We are in Kauai on Hanalei Bay.
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00:32:52,054 --> 00:32:54,640
One of our favorite places as a family.
531
00:32:55,474 --> 00:33:00,271
We're gonna be doing a memorial
for Charles and JJ and Tylee.
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00:33:00,354 --> 00:33:04,400
And it's something that
we've been needing for a really long time.
533
00:33:07,862 --> 00:33:11,657
It's to honor them and to
remember them, and this is the place.
534
00:33:12,867 --> 00:33:15,536
I'm so grateful
that this gets to happen here.
535
00:33:16,704 --> 00:33:18,122
Kauai was such a happy place.
536
00:33:18,956 --> 00:33:22,168
My brother, my sister, loved being here,
537
00:33:22,752 --> 00:33:25,004
and I remember the things we did here.
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00:33:30,384 --> 00:33:32,261
Charles, I just want to…
539
00:33:37,224 --> 00:33:40,269
[sniffles] I just want to
thank you for being my dad.
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00:33:45,024 --> 00:33:46,859
I know you never deserved
what happened to you,
541
00:33:46,942 --> 00:33:49,987
but I wouldn't have
the life that I had without you.
542
00:33:50,863 --> 00:33:52,865
[crying]
543
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,714
JJ, I just can't tell you
how much I love you.
544
00:34:10,341 --> 00:34:13,135
You're the greatest little brother
anybody could ever ask for,
545
00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:14,720
and I love you so much.
546
00:34:21,769 --> 00:34:25,773
Tylee, you're who
made me a big brother, and…
547
00:34:29,068 --> 00:34:33,823
I'll never forget how much
I immediately fell in love with you
548
00:34:33,906 --> 00:34:37,535
and immediately wanted to
protect you from everything in life,
549
00:34:38,285 --> 00:34:39,120
and…
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00:34:47,002 --> 00:34:48,087
I love all of you,
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00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:50,005
and…
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00:34:52,258 --> 00:34:53,676
I'm grateful for all of you.
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00:35:08,399 --> 00:35:09,358
It's okay.
554
00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:11,026
[Colby crying]
555
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,741
-I love you.
-I love you.
556
00:35:22,621 --> 00:35:24,999
[Kelsee] To me, it still
kind of just doesn't feel real.
557
00:35:25,624 --> 00:35:28,002
But it's been really hard on all of us.
558
00:35:28,669 --> 00:35:30,337
Throughout all of this, we--
559
00:35:30,421 --> 00:35:33,507
Colby and I have tried to make
Riley's life as normal as possible.
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00:35:34,258 --> 00:35:36,510
We're definitely gonna
let her know what happened.
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00:35:36,594 --> 00:35:38,512
We don't really know how yet.
562
00:35:38,596 --> 00:35:41,599
But she knows Tylee and JJ's faces.
563
00:35:42,183 --> 00:35:44,560
We have their pictures
everywhere all over our house.
564
00:35:45,102 --> 00:35:48,397
I made Colby a photo blanket
with, um, their pictures on it,
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00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,649
and it's hanging up in her playroom.
566
00:35:52,776 --> 00:35:55,988
And she'll walk up to it
and she'll go, "Ty-Ty. JJ."
567
00:35:57,031 --> 00:35:59,033
I think that's been
the main thing for us right now,
568
00:35:59,116 --> 00:36:03,495
is showing her who they are,
showing her videos, and saying their names
569
00:36:03,579 --> 00:36:05,289
and really helping her remember them.
570
00:36:08,042 --> 00:36:10,127
[Colby] We have to
live with what happened.
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00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:14,423
And what am I gonna focus on?
Am I gonna focus on their death,
572
00:36:14,506 --> 00:36:17,176
or am I gonna focus on
their memory and honoring them?
573
00:36:18,052 --> 00:36:20,638
They don't want us sitting here broken,
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00:36:20,721 --> 00:36:23,641
destroyed by everything
because they're gone.
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00:36:23,724 --> 00:36:25,601
[Lori] JJ! [laughing]
576
00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:31,899
[Colby] I just really feel
like I'm making it through
577
00:36:31,982 --> 00:36:34,735
because of Kelsee and Riley.
578
00:36:34,818 --> 00:36:37,154
If I didn't have Riley,
if I didn't have my wife,
579
00:36:37,238 --> 00:36:38,948
like, I don't think I would--
580
00:36:39,031 --> 00:36:41,825
I'd probably would have
just died from sadness.
581
00:36:43,244 --> 00:36:45,871
Like, I have a purpose besides myself.
582
00:36:47,665 --> 00:36:52,378
My biggest fear is that my mom's
story becomes our family's story.
583
00:36:54,129 --> 00:36:56,507
She's not going to define anything else.
584
00:36:57,758 --> 00:36:59,176
I know that in my heart.