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This program me contains
strong language from the start
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Let's look at some of your trophies. I've
won a few awards - not making this about me -
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but I like it when they weigh,
like, they look expensive.
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They're heavy. You want some weight,
that's heavy, isn't it?
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Heavy-duty. You could do someone
an injury with that.
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This, on the other hand...
That wouldn't do. ..wouldn't do.
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To be fair, I don't know,
if you get, you know,
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a bit of weight behind it.
LOUIS LAUGHS
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My game section -
games mean a lot to me.
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Quite a lot of Monopoly.
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There's a Stormzy edition.
There is a Stormzy edition.
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The properties are normal,
I think it's all the community -
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Look, "You have won..."
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"You have won a Mobo Award,
collect 25."
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"Jay Z rates you, receive 100..."
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STORMZY LAUGHS
That's hard.
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Over here. The Time cover.
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Being on the cover of Time
is almost like the gold standard
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of what achievement
is supposed to look like.
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Like, it's the pinnacle. Yeah.
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In terms of things I'm most
proud of, this is up there
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with the best of them, that.
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As much as I was proud of it,
I feel like there was a period
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after it where I was probably
not in the best mind space,
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and it used to, like...
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It was a bit overbearing,
in terms of "Yo, you're..."
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Fuck, what was it, fucking
"next generation leader"?
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"British rapper Stormzy and
nine other young trailblazers
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"who are shaping the world."
Yeah, that's a lot.
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That's a lot. "Shaping the world"?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
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The world's big. That's a lot there.
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I might've cried about that.
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Not, like, as in... Bawling?
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TEARFULLY: .."bro, I'm the next
generation leader, man".
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Not like that, innit, like,
but as in, there was a time
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where I was going through this
and going through that,
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and then, there's just an
overwhelmingness that would've
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made me come to tears, or whatever.
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Apologies for taking over your
front room, by the way.
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It's all right. It's all right, man.
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It's all right.
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Michael Ebenezer Kwadjo
Omari Owuojr -
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better known as Stormzy -
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is the most successful rapper
the UK has ever produced.
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It's the first interview
you've given in quite a while.
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A long time, yeah, yeah.
Is it two years? Is it?
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He'd agreed to let me in and
experience his life on the road
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and in the studio, and to sit down
for a no-holds-barred
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conversation at his home.
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It's quite new to me.
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What, all this? Yeah.
Oh, is it? Yeah.
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Yeah, it's probably a bit
new to me, as well.
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But it's all right.
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THEY LAUGH
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I was in Glasgow,
at the OVO Hydro Arena,
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with an appointment to meet Stormzy.
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If I could just find him.
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Hello. Hi.
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Is it this way to Stormzy?
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To the dressing room? Yeah.
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Yeah, if you go out there, and then,
just straight up the stairs.
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OK, thank you.
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Hello. How are you doing?
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Pleasure to meet you, Louis.
Likewise. How are you?
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Yeah, I'm good. You're good?
A little hug? Yeah, a big hug!
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STORMZY LAUGHS
Big hug! Big fan.
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I wanted to meet you for so long.
Yeah, me too.
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Being in front of you feels
a bit like...you know what I mean?
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Like I've just popped out of
the TV? Or just, like...?
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No, like, even when you walked in,
it's like, "OK, be normal.
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"Be normal. Hello, Louis.
Nice to meet you."
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But do you know what I mean?
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Truly, I would've been like,
"Oh, shit! Louis Theroux!"
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LAUGHTER
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I mean, it was the final night
of Stormzy's tour.
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15 sold-out dates in arenas
around the UK and Ireland,
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reaching an audience
whose size was unprecedented
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for a British rap artist.
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All right, you lead the way, Stormz,
if that's all right. Yeah, cool.
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Am I all right, calling you Stormz?
Yeah, yeah, no, whatever you want.
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Stormz, Mike, whatever.
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This feels like one of
the bigger ones, to be fair.
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Do you know the capacity?
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I think it's - what's the capacity?
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Er, 16. 16,000.
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This one looks big.
Does it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Goes through your head
when you look around?
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Erm...let's be havin' ya.
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Yeah? Yeah. Let's do this.
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Yeah. Nerves?
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Nah, you know?
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Nah.
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Nah, nah. Really? Nah.
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You're taking your diet quite
seriously. Super seriously.
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Like what? In what way?
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Before a tour, I stay away
from white rice.
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Stay away from potatoes.
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Anything bad - I won't even have
a single crisp, like...
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Seriously? Like, nothing.
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Not nuts?
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I'm allowed nuts to a degree.
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Like, if I'm having yoghurt,
I could have nuts with it.
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I don't have nuts with it.
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But, yeah, no, I take...
That's rock-n-roll. Yeah, yeah.
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Having nuts with your yoghurt?
With my yoghurt.
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But that's, like...
You're getting wild.
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If I'm - and a little bit of
pomegranate, that's like a wild,
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like, I'm ballin' out of control,
like, yeah, literally.
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But, yeah.
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Your, sort of, high-knee dance...
Yeah. ..has gone viral on TikTok.
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I've heard, I've heard.
Did you know that?
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Yeah, Deezer told me.
Did you invent that?
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I think I did.
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So, this is, like, you do the
high knees all the way down there.
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Yeah. Boom, boom, boom,
high knee, boom, boom, boom.
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Pyro, boom, straight off the gate.
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Pow, pow, pow -
that's when the high knees -
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POW, POW, pow, pow.
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Come here, I give it to them.
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You gotta come back here,
give them a little bit of it.
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Then you go back up there,
turn around, and go back there,
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and you come back down again.
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Give them the high knees again.
Is it? Pow!
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It's like you've got to
charge up the high knees.
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You can't just always do it.
You gotta charge it up.
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Charge it up? And then,
that's when I'm charging it up.
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It's like FIFA, when you sprint.
Exactly!
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Ancl then, you gotta regain
the energy, and then you, baahhhh,
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and come back out.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's -
yeah, yeah, yeah!
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That's it! Yeah, yeah,
sometimes I do that.
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HE LAUGHS
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I'm done. Sometimes I do that, yeah.
Sometimes I do that.
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That's the static one.
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That's the, like, just between
me and - you know what I mean?
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Yeah, you got it.
Oh, man, thank you.
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# Stormzy, you know I'm
bringing bookin' back for good.
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# Ancl they say he's a
cocky little sod
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# But the kid's got bars,
so you gotta give him props... #
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Stormzy's journey to arenas
had started 11 years earlier when,
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as a teenager, he'd begun sharing
videos he'd filmed on his estate
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in South London, building an
underground fan base.
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Follow me on Twitter @Stormzy1.
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One fan on Facebook,
Stormzy Omari.
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State your name, cuz.
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Stormzy, innit?
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In 2015, he burst into
the mainstream with the release
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of the freestyle "Shut Up".
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Let's go. Look.
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# Man try say he's better than me
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# Tell my man, shut up
ALL: # Shut up
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# Mention my name in your tweets
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# Oi, rude boy, shut up
# Shut up
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# How can you be better than me... #
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Two number-one albums followed -
and along with them,
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celebrity status and a platform
for his uncompromising views.
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# That you're Theresa May,
Where's the money for Grenfell?
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# What, you thought we just
forgot about Grenfell... #
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MUSIC: Shut Up
by Stormzy
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AUDIENCE HUMS ALONG
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At his show in Glasgow, I was
struck by his enormous achievement
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and his impressive physique
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as I reflected on his ability
to connect with the audience.
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# Man try say he's better than me
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# Tell my man, shut up
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# Mention my name in your tweets
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# Oi, rude boy, shut up
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# Better than me? Shut up!
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# Best in the scene... #
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I was also aware that his success
had been hard won with bumps
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in the road, his share of haters,
and moments of vulnerability -
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all of which I was hoping
to talk to him about.
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So, thank you for doing this.
Nah, thank you.
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And just to say, I think
it's been at least three years,
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I've been trying to set this up.
Oh, that's mad.
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The read I've got a view,
based on talking to you, and then,
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seeing your bit in Glasgow -
you seem to be in a really good
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place, like, as far as your outlook
on life, your sense of
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where you are artistically.
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Would you agree with that,
more or less?
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Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
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In reading up on you - and I'm aware
that your artistic process
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takes a lot out of you...
Yeah, a lot. ..would that be fair?
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Mm-hm. And that when you did your
first album, there was a period
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when you went more or less AWOL
from the studio, it sounded like?
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Is that right? Mm-hm.
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What's that about?
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You come into music - and I came
to music when I was about 19, 20,
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whatever - and I'm becoming a man.
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I'm growing, and I'm going
on my journey as a man.
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Ancl then, I'm also trying to figure
out how to be the greatest artist.
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Ancl then, also in that, as well,
I'm in a relationship,
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which is, like, an amazing
relationship, there was ups,
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and there was downs.
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Ancl then, I'm also being
a family man, I'm being a son,
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I'm being a provider.
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Ancl I'm also trying to provide
and lead in my community,
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and for, like, my people,
it was very overwhelming
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and difficult to...
handle all those things.
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While I was making an album,
I would often, like, just crash out
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and just, like, get super depressed
or, like, in a super withdrawn
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and super reclusive, like...
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And disappear? ..and disappear.
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What was your routine
in those moments?
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Just stay at home.
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I'll just stay at home,
smoke a lot of weed.
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Would you be conscious
of being in crisis?
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Because some people describe
depression as a blankness,
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like, as a nothing. Yeah.
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No, mine was definitely a feeling
of just overwhelmingness of, like,
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I actually can't handle this -
which also, in a mad way,
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was super new to me,
because I was always a very able
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and capable child.
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I would break down and, like, yeah,
it was just super heavy for me.
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Ancl then, the album came out,
and then, you have that period of,
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like, all your hard work paying off,
the album clone amazingly,
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and then, you go on that
journey with it.
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Ancl then...2019 comes.
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# Yo...
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CROWD CHEERS
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Hey, Glasto!
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# I don't know what to say... #
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One, two, three, four!
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In Stormzy's banner year of 2019,
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he headlined Glastonbury
to wild acclaim and released
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his genre-breaking second album.
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This is the greatest night
of my entire life.
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CHEERING
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Please welcome Stormzy!
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It's Stormzy!
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But his status as a national
figure drew increased scrutiny
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when his relationship with
the Dj and TV presenter
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Maya jam a broke down.
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In early 2020,
he came off social media.
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When I think about that year
and what I went through,
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and what I had to deal with,
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it was fucking overwhelming.
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Where was the stress coming from?
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Was it internal? Was it -
specifically, was it criticisms
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on social media?
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The narrative with me and
social media has been, like,
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maybe I was getting, like, a lot
of negativity directed towards me,
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and it made me come off-
because someone at my gym
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came up to me and was like,
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"Yeah, I heard you came off
social media because..."
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Ancl I was like,
"Everyone's missed the point".
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Listen, if fucking Tommy from
fucking Plymouth wakes up and says,
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"Stormzy, you're shit" -
that's fine.
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That's the most bearable thing.
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I mean, that's very bearable.
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But it was just becoming
super distracting.
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I said, "I can't".
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I'm so overwhelmed in my reality
that I can't be coming on
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this place, and I'll be consuming
everyone else's fucking reality.
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I can't hear my thoughts,
like I always say,
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when I came off social media,
the deepest thing about it is
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I always felt like I could
hear God speak.
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That's what I thought, yeah,
I felt like I could hear God speak,
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I could hear myself speak,
and I had clarity.
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The past two years for me,
especially...
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...after my break-up and Glastonbury,
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and the second album coming out,
and the pandemic -
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between those, like,
four or five factors,
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it just allowed a lot of time of
growth and self-reflection.
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My break-up, that was probably
the biggest catalyst
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for growth as a man.
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It was like,
"OK, you made a mistake,
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"and you lose someone you love,
someone you cared for,
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"someone who's special to you".
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That's probably the biggest
loss a man can have, innit?
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Like, away from someone
passing away. Right, exactly.
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Away from actual, like, death...
Bereavement, sure.
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...that's the biggest
loss you can have.
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When you talk about mistakes,
what do you mean?
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I mean, like, the whole fucking...
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...palaver that surrounded that
situation, y'know what I mean, like?
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It was assumed that you'd
been unfaithful, and then,
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you put that to bed and said,
"No, I wasn't unfaithful,
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"but I disrespecting her" -
but that was after you'd broken up,
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as I understand it.
Yeah, but it was still, like -
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and there was other things,
like, in terms of, like...
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There was, like...
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There was mistakes that I'd made,
like, do you get what I mean?
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In the relationship?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
285
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You weren't making her
breakfast often enough.
286
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No, listen, that was probably a good
thing, cos I'm a fucking shit...
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I'm a shit cook.
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I just - do you know what?
This is the best way to put it.
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Did you snore in bed?
HE LAUGHS
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Sorry. No, what I did is, I didn't
do what a man should do to...
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...to fully appreciate, love,
and care for his woman.
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Long story short, I learnt from
that, it's like, OK, if I don't ever
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want to feel like that again,
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and if I believe that God will
bless me with, like,
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an amazing woman and a family,
and marriage and all of that thing,
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it's like, I have to do all
the necessary work to never be
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in that situation again.
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Do you get what I mean? Mm.
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Do you want a drink, Louis?
No, no, I'm all right.
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Last night, I was working YouTube.
301
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I wonder if I've heard all
the music.
302
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And, of course, one of them
is Little Mix, right?
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Yes. Called Power. Called Power.
304
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I'm not going to sing it.
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The little... I can't do it justice.
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What is it?
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# Na, na, na-ah, na
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# I got the, I got the,
I got the power... #
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STORMZY LAUGHS
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# La, la, la-la, la
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# I got the, I got the,
I got the... #
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# I got the power... #
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THEY BOTH SING
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That's got the most views,
from what I can tell.
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That's, like, at 400 million.
316
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Oh, is it? Fucking...
I didn't know that.
317
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Yeah. I didn't know that. Big tune.
Does that surprise you?
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No. It's Little Mix.
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They're fucking... They're amazing.
320
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And I'm so proud of that song
as we“,
321
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because, at the time,
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as you could expect, it was like,
323
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"Whoa, why is he doing a fucking
song..."
324
00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,935
I remember hearing it
and being surprised.
325
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That sounds like Stormzy
on a Little Mix track.
326
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I knew that,
coming from my background
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of being an emcee, a rapper,
328
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that I would get some sort of...
329
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I'll get some sort of,
330
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"Hey, you shouldn't be doing that,
or, "Why...?
331
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"Why are you working with
that artist?"
332
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Or, "Why are you doing that?"
333
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Specifically, the idea that
you're no longer keeping it real?
334
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You're no longer staying true to
your community
335
00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,695
and where you came from?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
336
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If I love Little Mix,
337
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and then Little Mix approach me
to do a song,
338
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and then I say no, because man's
got to keep it real... Mm.
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Surely that's... Surely that's
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the fakest thing I can do
in that moment.
341
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"Little Mix. I love you.
You've sent me this song.
342
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"I think this tune is cold.
343
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"Can't do it because I need
to keep it real."
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I've never made an artistic decision
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without it being solely off
the basis of music, ever in my life.
346
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Ancl I've said, "If I stick
to that, I'll have a career."
347
00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,775
There was an interview
where you talked about,
348
00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,975
"Oh, do you get
stick for this or that
349
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"for like having openly Christian
lyrics?"
350
00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,935
And you said, "No, no. To be fair,
that's not what I get grief about.
351
00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,135
"If I get grief, it's for being
unapologetically black."
352
00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,295
Yeah. Do you remember saying that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
353
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And I was really struck by that.
354
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And I just wondered what being
unapologetically black means to you.
355
00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,735
It just means, like...
356
00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,055
It's just... It's just some, like,
357
00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,335
it's funny, but it's just like,
I'm black, innit?
358
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Like, sometimes
it's like, not a lot of people,
359
00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,695
but there are some people
who don't realise,
360
00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,295
it's like I'm definitely black
in terms of, like,
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00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,775
my issues are going to be black.
362
00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,655
The things I care about are mostly
going to be about black people.
363
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The classic one was the scholarship,
364
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where I'm doing a scholarship
for black kids and it's like...
365
00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,455
Right, right.
For people who don't know,
366
00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,175
there is a scholarship
established with your money.
367
00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,455
Yeah. And it was for black kids
to go to Cambridge. Yeah.
368
00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,455
Ancl they'd be... It was like,
"What?!"
369
00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,775
And it was like...
Ancl I was like,
370
00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,855
"Yeah, I fully understand.
everyone's surprised.
371
00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,455
"I'm black, innit?"
372
00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,055
Well, there was some dissent,
373
00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,495
like, a few people had issues
with that, did they? Yeah.
374
00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,295
Yeah, like, there was a lot of
a lot of backlash around it,
375
00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,535
a lot of the time I could tell
376
00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,775
people weren't actually being
horrible.
377
00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,375
There were some people with genuine,
378
00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,095
"Hey, Stormz, like, I'm from a
working class background," like...
379
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,935
White people, this was?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
380
00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,575
White people, Asian people.
Can I apply for your scholarship?
381
00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,055
That's what I used to feel, like
I had a duty to explain to them.
382
00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,975
Whereas now I'm like, "Well, I'm
kind of tired of explaining this,"
383
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,615
it's just like that's clearest
to my heart, like,
384
00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,535
and coming from where I come from,
385
00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,055
that's like a pressing matter on my
heart. So...
386
00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,175
And I think cos there's
obviously been black people
387
00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,775
in the public eye going back
decades, you know,
388
00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,295
maybe what's changed is this
sort of sense that,
389
00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,535
maybe, before, to be black
in the public space,
390
00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,575
there was some part of you
that you had to surrender. Right?
391
00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,455
And now you've shown that
that need not be the case.
392
00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,855
Yeah. At all. At all, like...
393
00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,975
Shall we talk about
where you came from?
394
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,335
Yeah. Which is where? Where is it?
395
00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:54,375
Um, Croydon.
396
00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,015
In terms of your own story,
397
00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,375
you've been quite open about talking
about challenges
398
00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,255
that you had growing up
and specifically
399
00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,095
being studious, doing well
in school,
400
00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:07,375
getting really good results.
401
00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,175
And then, at a certain point, kind
of like the call of the road, right?
402
00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,615
The reality for me and a lot
of my brethren is like
403
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,735
a lot of us weren't coming from
two-parent households.
404
00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,735
It was usually just your mum.
405
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,135
At the time, you don't even see
nothing in that,
406
00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,895
like, until you grow up.
407
00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,015
Ancl it's like, "OK, that
might have meant something
408
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,895
"that my clad weren't around."
409
00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,975
Me and my family are tight,
but it was like,
410
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,415
we never sat down and had dinner
together.
411
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,655
You said somewhere that growing
up,
412
00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,695
your home was really just
individuals
413
00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,375
all operating under the same roof.
Yeah, 100%. 100%.
414
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,895
You got to understand, like,
415
00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,015
even without sounding too fucking
poetic,
416
00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,895
like, you're raised by...
417
00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,895
You're raised by the streets
or you're raised
418
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,375
by your friends, or you're raised
by the oldest.
419
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,015
Was it rough?
420
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,535
Yeah, like, but as anywhere
else was rough.
421
00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,015
You know what I mean, like?
422
00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,295
At one point, you call it
"horrifying", I think,
423
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,735
in a lyric or "terrifying"?
Um... Crown.
424
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,135
Don't comment on my culture,
you ain't qualified
425
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,055
Stab us in the back
and then apologise
426
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,175
If you knew my story, you'd be
horrified. Yeah.
427
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,575
"If you knew my story,
you'd be horrified." Yeah.
428
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,335
What did you mean by that?
429
00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:16,535
Like, I've been...
430
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,535
I've been stabbed a few
times, but, like, to...
431
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,455
To some people, that's
going to be horrifying.
432
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,135
Badly, like, did you go to hospital?
Yeah.
433
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,375
Really?! Yeah.
434
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,455
How happy are you talking
about this stuff?
435
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,375
Because some of it...
No, I'm fine with it.
436
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,575
Are you sure? Yeah, yeah.
437
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,735
You got... How deep into it did
you get, like...?
438
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,415
I think you had some court time.
Did you?
439
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,255
You never actually got a custodial
sentence.
440
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,015
I never... No, I never went to jail.
441
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,815
What was it, possession
of a weapon, was it?
442
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,655
Yeah, it was possession
of a weapon.
443
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,295
So if you'd have had a weapon,
what would it have been for?
444
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,975
For protection, for...
445
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,095
I don't know. To feel, like, more
in control. Mm-hm.
446
00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:56,615
Do you know what I mean?
447
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,895
To feel more in control
of, like, any situation
448
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,815
that I may come across that...
449
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,455
Even... Even how deep I got into it,
450
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,295
I know people who got way deeper.
451
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,575
Of course. I've got friends who got
way deeper, way, way, way deeper.
452
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,015
You go on that journey
and it can lead you anywhere.
453
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,935
It's a random box of prison, death.
454
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,535
Become an entrepreneur
because you learned to be streetwise
455
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,175
and now you applied that.
456
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,615
Becoming a musician.
457
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,175
Becoming a footballer.
458
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:33,335
But, of course, the most likely
ones is harmed, dead or in jail,
459
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:35,735
do you know what I mean?
That's the most likely ones.
460
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,775
You've said, like, you had this
period of working,
461
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,015
was it on an oil rig?
462
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,855
Yeah, it was an oil refinery.
463
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,255
I was working in quality assurance.
464
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,855
What does that really mean?
I couldn't fucking tell you.
465
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,055
I was so bad at it.
466
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,295
That was quite a big thing for you.
Yeah, it was massive.
467
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,495
In what way?
468
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,695
I was on the ends, like, with my,
469
00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,255
with my breth rens.
470
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,455
Ancl then I applied for this
apprenticeship
471
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,295
and then I had to go to
Leamington Spa.
472
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,415
Ancl then I was living with
17 other kids,
473
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,415
and they were all white kids.
474
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:15,615
They were all from Scotland,
Yorkshire, Newcastle.
475
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,015
I had no idea about banter or
that, being...
476
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,695
just not taking myself seriously.
477
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,015
I think that's the biggest
thing I would say. I didn't...
478
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,935
I came out of that and I didn't take
myself...
479
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,975
Like, I knew how to take a joke.
I knew how to crack a joke.
480
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,455
It helped me see people and see life
481
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,655
and see there's a culture outside of
my culture,
482
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,295
do you know what I mean? Mm.
483
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,655
Which is just always enlightening
for anyone from anywhere, like,
484
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,895
to come out of where they're from
and to see the world.
485
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,975
And, for me, it was close,
because the world was just
486
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,775
an hour and a half up the road.
487
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,175
I think the key thing, the key thing
was that time we was in Tipton
488
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,295
and we was welding.
489
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,735
I remember I took off my hard hat
and this was probably close
490
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,175
to the times where I got stabbed.
491
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,375
So I took off my hard hat
and someone walked past
492
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,015
and was like, "Oh, what's
the...?"
493
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,815
...and I used to have, it was like
a long scar.
494
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,775
It was like a T, like a long...
495
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,255
I don't know if it's still there
now, but...
496
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,775
And they were, “Oh, what happened?“
497
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,495
Ancl I was like, "Oh, I got stabbed."
498
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,775
Bruv, I just remember the look on
all their faces
499
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,215
and I remember feeling like a
fucking artefact in a museum
500
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,175
because I was stood... I was sat
like this
501
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,415
and they were all like, "What?!"
502
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,335
Ancl I remember thinking, like,
503
00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:25,975
"Bruv, this ain't that deep at all,
like..."
504
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,615
Ancl they were like... And I was
like, "And here..."
505
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,735
And they were like, "What?!"
506
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,495
Ancl I remember... And it was kind
of like a realisation,
507
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,335
OK, yeah, that's not the most
normal thing, innit?
508
00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:39,495
Like, as much as it's normal
in our community. And it's like...
509
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,215
Did you lose any friends over it?
510
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,415
Over the violence, stabbing?
511
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,695
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you?
Yeah. Loads. Loads? Died?
512
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,895
Yeah. For real? Yeah.
513
00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:53,895
Becomes normal, like,
do you know what I mean?
514
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,415
It's one of the things that happens.
515
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,015
People pass away.
516
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,735
People get harmed.
517
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,855
Even, even one that we didn't always
realise that.
518
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,055
Ancl we've realised that now as
grown men,
519
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,255
is that a lot of people lose their
mental health badly as well.
520
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,055
Like, as in, I've got friends
that I grew up with
521
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,375
where it's like, if they saw me
today, they wouldn't recognise...
522
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,255
As in they've, like...
They've got serious mental illness?
523
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,375
Yeah. Yeah. Serious mental-health
issues.
524
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,735
Do you think it's over trauma?
525
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,535
It could be trauma.
526
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,175
Sometimes people get involved in,
like, the drugs that they sell.
527
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,495
So even the whole idea of, like,
breaking it down
528
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,255
and that dissecting it for that,
it's...
529
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,855
That's only something that
I've started doing now, as an adult,
530
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,255
because it was just, like,
it is what it is, isn't it?
531
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,175
Like... That's amazing.
532
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,015
To me, that... That is amazing.
533
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,855
As much as it seemed normal
then, you know, the idea
534
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,975
of having multiple friends,
535
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,775
you know, who you've lost to
violence.
536
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,975
Yeah, And I'm always...
537
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,055
I think I'm just always wary
and careful when I speak about it
538
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,695
because it's, like,
things are easy to discuss
539
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,055
from the fucking suburbs, do you
know what I mean? On my sofa.
540
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,535
Ancl as much as I've lived there
and I've come from it,
541
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,695
but it's like it's still people's
lives
542
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,455
and people's realities, innit? So...
543
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,855
GOSPEL CHOIR SINGS
544
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,975
# Hallelujah
You have won...
545
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,855
# You have won the victory
546
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,015
# Hallelujah
547
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,575
# Hallelujah
548
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,055
# You've won it all for me
549
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,095
# You have won it all for me
550
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:53,015
# Death could not hold you...
551
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,455
# Death could not hold you down... #
552
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,415
In Camberwell, South London,
553
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,895
Stormzy was at a Christian
worship meeting
554
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,015
he attends monthly
with his Ghanaian-born mum, Abigail.
555
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,175
# You are the risen King...
You're seated... #
556
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,975
The evenings are organised
by his sister,
557
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,575
the Dj, Rachael An son.
558
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,615
# You are the risen...
559
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,055
# You are the risen King
560
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,335
# Death could not hold you down
561
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,775
# You are, you are the risen King
562
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,135
# You are the risen King... #
563
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,335
Stormzy told me his faith
is the bedrock
564
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:44,015
of everything he does.
565
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,575
He also hosts weekly Bible study
groups at his house
566
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,295
and attends Sunday services
in Brixton.
567
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,975
# I will be content
568
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,855
# In very circumstance... #
569
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,575
APPLAUSE
570
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,655
That was amazing, right?
571
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,175
You want to share a testimony.
572
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,975
If you want to just let us know
how you've been feeling,
573
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,255
what life's been like for you.
574
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,855
WHISPERS: Oh, that's very kind.
Thank you.
575
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,455
I'm breaking, like,
I'm breaking down.
576
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,575
Due to so much things attached to
me being a mum, do you understand?
577
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,015
And I've seen a lot of prayer...
578
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,135
I need people to pray for me,
I need all the mums
579
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,735
just to come out for me, please.
580
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,255
Amen.
581
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,935
I rate mothers more than anyone
in this world,
582
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,975
and especially single mothers.
583
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,135
What? What you lot have to endure.
584
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,015
Ancl then you've got this whole big
head that you've got to look after
585
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,255
on top of yourself.
586
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,975
I promise you, it gets easier.
587
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,175
APPLAUSE
588
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,615
Thank you for having us.
No, all good, man.
589
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,575
That was extraordinary.
Oh, thank you, man.
590
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,895
That was so lovely.
591
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,015
The emotion was off the charts
and the music was amazing.
592
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,615
It was a real privilege
to be part of that. Amen.
593
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,935
I want to say a proper hello
to Mike's mum, Abigail.
594
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,935
So nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
595
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,615
Shed a little bit of light
596
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,735
on what it was like raising
Michael as a young...
597
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,215
As a young man, as a boy growing up.
598
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,695
Was he...?
Was he always a bit special?
599
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,735
Yes, he was a miracle.
600
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,735
I got pregnant with him.
601
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,575
I was on the pill.
602
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,655
Wow! Oh, I didn't even know that.
603
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,375
Of course, I never tell you.
604
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,575
Really? Yes!
605
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,175
We've got a world exclusive
right here.
606
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,455
That's a world exclusive.
607
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,095
She was on the pill when she had me.
608
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,735
He's so clever and talented. Mm.
609
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,775
You can tell from when he was
growing up.
610
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,495
He was so talented.
611
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,775
I remember being young and hearing
my mum talk to my uncles
612
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,775
and my aunties and say,
"Oh, junior, juni0r's..."
613
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,655
I remember a time my mum would
be doing a puzzle
614
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,255
in the front room.
615
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,895
She says, "So, Junior, do you know,
616
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,775
"will complete a puzzle in five
minutes.
617
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,255
"Give him any puzzle."
No, no, no.
618
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,815
So, you know, just subconsciously,
619
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,615
I'm probably growing up thinking,
"Oh, I'm lit, like."
620
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,015
Do you know what I mean? So, yeah.
621
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,575
That's good for your spirit,
isn't it?
622
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,295
That's good for your soul.
623
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,695
How important
is it to you to be here?
624
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,295
Has this always been part of
your life?
625
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,415
Is this something you've discovered
later in life?
626
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,495
We grew up in church,
so I've had faith all my life
627
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,255
and I've loved God all my life.
628
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,055
But I feel like you've got to come
to your own realisation, innit?
629
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,055
As much as you raised me in
church, I've got to...
630
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,575
I've got to...
Know God for yourself.
631
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,975
I've got to know God for myself.
632
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,615
Ancl I think during pandemic,
there was a grown-man realisation,
633
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,695
there was an adult realisation,
innit, of that?
634
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,535
"Oh, wow. This is what it means
to pray.
635
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,735
"This is what this scripture means."
636
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,655
Literally, I was in my house
by myself, with my clogs,
637
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,295
out of my relationship.
638
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,375
I'm... I'm not... I wasn't touring.
639
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,735
I wasn't even recording at the time.
640
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,215
I was just sat down. I was still.
641
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,215
Ancl even the Bible talks
about stillness, I was still,
642
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,215
this is where I'm meant
to be around people who don't care
643
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,695
about whatever it is that the world
thinks I am.
644
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,335
The man who I want to be
is this man.
645
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,535
It's funny because I've got
a place down the road,
646
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,735
about 20 minutes.
What, another house?
647
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,415
Yeah, but, like, that's where
I'm going to, like, proper...
648
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,135
Proper stay, and... Proper stay,
as in what? Start a family?
649
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,375
Yeah. Is it, is it bigger
than this one?
650
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,655
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
651
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,935
Why don't you live there now?
652
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,295
Because I'm totally renovating it.
653
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,495
So you're doing a Reno?
654
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,775
Doing a Reno. My first.
My first proper Reno.
655
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,295
Is it mad? Is it fabulous?
656
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,695
God willing, it will be, yeah.
657
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,015
Is it huge?
658
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,015
|t's...it's... How many bedrooms?
659
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,815
It's...
660
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,455
It's nice, isn't it? Seven?
Is it more than seven bedrooms?
661
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,295
No, no, it's not more than seven.
662
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,935
Shall we look at some
of the ones through here?
663
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,975
This is artwork...
Platinum records. Yeah. Artwork.
664
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,375
I thought... I don't know.
665
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,975
It's funny cos, like...
666
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,135
I don't know,
if I'm being totally honest...
667
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,135
I don't know, how do I explain that?
668
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,855
Do you feel disconnected from it?
669
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,495
I'm so proud of myself in terms
of... I'm not even trying
670
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,415
to denounce that, the plaques
and the awards,
671
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,055
but it's, like, this is very,
like,
672
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,655
"Yo, this is my fucking crib."
Yeah.
673
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,695
Like, you're...
You know what I mean? Like, yeah.
674
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,735
Your bachelor pad. Exactly, yeah,
bachelor pad.
675
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,255
Cos the home I'm building,
I always say to the man, them,
676
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,175
that I'm building it on family
and love and God.
677
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,175
CREW SPEAK INDISTINCTLY
678
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,495
You're a single man. Yeah.
679
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,655
You're... How old are you? 28?
I'm 28, yeah.
680
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,975
You're probably one of the most
eligible people in the UK.
681
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,855
Just talented, successful,
attractive.
682
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,575
You're the total package, right?
Cheers, Louis. Thank you, man.
683
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,655
You tick all the boxes. It's like...
Thank you, man.
684
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,015
Can I ask you about dating? Yeah.
685
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,255
How do you do that? I don't.
686
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,935
I don't really do it.
687
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,415
Would you do Tinder?
Like...like...the young people do?
688
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,935
No, I wouldn't do fucking Tinder.
689
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,695
Would you do Raya? Like, the Raya
is the celebrity one, is it?
690
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,495
No, I wouldn't do Raya either.
691
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,095
No.
692
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,575
Even the idea of, like, meeting
a girl,
693
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,575
and then, "Let's just go on a date.
694
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,495
"Let's just go...
695
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,815
"..to get some food."
696
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,655
Yeah? That's, like...that's
alarm bells.
697
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,815
Like, any time I've had a date,
we've got to go through a back door.
698
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,695
You know what I mean?
Through a back door...
699
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,535
At the restaurant?
Yeah, the restaurant.
700
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,375
Not to sound naive, but
what happens if you don't do that?
701
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,975
Because people are going to blow up
the flippin' poor girl's life.
702
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,175
Do you know what I mean?
703
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,895
Not in like a... Because everyone
in the restaurant will clock you.
704
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,895
Yeah, it's just... Do you mean
they'll come over,
705
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,495
or they'll hit the socials? Yeah.
706
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,535
Or, like, people in the restaurant
want to try and film, like.
707
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,135
Ancl I always say, that's not fair
on, like, the person I'm with
708
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,415
because they don't want to fucking
be in the fucking tabloid tomorrow.
709
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,375
Maybe they do,
which is also a problem.
710
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,735
That's also a fucking problem.
You know what I mean, like?
711
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,015
So what's the solution?
712
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,575
|'m...|'m still trying
to figure it out.
713
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,455
I always say I just wait
for God, innit?
714
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,255
I'll just wait for God
to, like, present me
715
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,375
with my situation and my woman.
716
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,575
That's a bit passive.
717
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,575
Yeah, yeah, it is a bit passive,
but it's like...
718
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,695
Do you know what it is?
I'm all out of ideas, Louis.
719
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,215
If I'm honest, like, I swear to you,
like, I'm out of ideas.
720
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,615
Why don't you just work Tinder,
and then just have a night in
721
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,775
and just do it...you know,
do Deliveroo and watch Netflix
722
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,375
or iPlayer, or whatever.
I don't know.
723
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,575
Even the idea of dating, for me...
724
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,775
...it's a new thing.
725
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,815
It is a new thing. Like, I didn't
date before I met my...my ex.
726
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,135
I didn't date before.
I wasn't out here dating.
727
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,335
Right. But you would
have been 20 then.
728
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,095
So, what about 17, 18, 19?
729
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,215
17, 18, 19, I was just
a...I was just a boy,
730
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,495
and dating weren't even a thing,
like, we was just...
731
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,575
Wasn't that a thing? No, man weren't
taking no girl on no fucking...
732
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,175
Really? What was man doing?
733
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,375
It weren't like, "Hey, baby,
let's go to the fucking..." Movies?
734
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,375
No, it weren't that. Cinema, maybe.
735
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,215
Cinema, may... I was a boy.
736
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,375
I was a boy.
737
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,335
I'm just not well versed
in...in the realms of love,
738
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,615
relationships and dating.
739
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,775
All right. How is your energy?
Yeah, yeah, it's good.
740
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,015
I know we're taking a lot of time.
Is it good? Yeah, yeah.
741
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,095
I've got a couple more questions.
Are we all right?
742
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,655
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cos I don't
I don't always get to, like,
743
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,415
talk about...talk in detail.
744
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,935
I mean, what's striking
is that, actually, your whole story
745
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,455
is really in the lyrics. Yeah.
746
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,015
And I was really struck
in Lay Me Bare... Yeah.
747
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,215
...how much you go into the anger
that you have at your dad.
748
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,295
Yeah.
749
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,495
And talking about him coming to you,
having not been in your life
750
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,695
in any significant way growing up,
when you first had success.
751
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,055
He was a cab driver, right?
752
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,695
Yeah. Doing his own thing.
753
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,095
And he came and asked you
to give him money for a car?
754
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,015
Yeah. But what was the actual lyric?
755
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,455
Because there's a repeated lyric.
It's... It's a very powerful lyric.
756
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,055
It's, um...
757
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:16,495
Lay Me... I can't remember
Lay Me Bare, sorry.
758
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,615
I've got it. Have you got it? Yeah.
759
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,335
Yeah, it's along the lines
of, like, "Fuck you, Dad."
760
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,295
Here we go. Here we go.
The hidden lyrics.
761
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,135
Listen. Here we go.
762
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,535
I'm going to do it.
763
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,135
"Like, bro, I can't believe
I saw my dad
764
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,975
"Still up in the ends,
still driving cabs
765
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,655
"He said, 'Yo, son, I need a car'
766
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,295
"I kiss my teeth and turned my back
767
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,095
"Like, you ain't seen my face
for years
768
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,855
"You ain't seen my face for time
769
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,575
"And the first thing you're asking
for is that?
770
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,695
"Fuck you!
That's where I draw the line.
771
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:50,095
"Should have dashed through a rack
like, 'Keep the change'
772
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,815
"And fuck letting go,
I'll keep the pain
773
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,615
"23 years I'm still the same
774
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,695
"When you hear this
I hope you feel ashamed
775
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:57,415
"Cah' we were broke,
like, what the fuck?
776
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,055
"Mum did well to hold us up
777
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,895
"And yet she still forgave your arse
778
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,895
"But Mumsy's cool, I'm cold as fuck
779
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,815
"Fuck that! I'm still not over this
780
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,415
"Fuck that!
No, I'm still not over this."
781
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,855
Yeah, fucking hell, that's...
782
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,615
...that's angry.
783
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,575
I think the funniest lyric
in that is, um...
784
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,255
"Fuck letting go,
I'll keep the pain."
785
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,135
Ancl it's so funny
because I've always felt like that.
786
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,575
like, |'m...like, I've always felt,
like, this pain is mine.
787
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,975
And, like, it's very right
that I hold this
788
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,335
because of what you've clone.
789
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,735
Like, as in, I have every right
to hold this pain...
790
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,135
Of him just not being there?
Yeah. With him not being there.
791
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,535
Like, I got...
792
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,055
I've got a song on this album
called Please,
793
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,215
and it's like, "Please, Lord,
give me the strength
794
00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:46,615
"To forgive my clad, for he is flawed
and so am I
795
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,255
"So, who am I to not
796
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,655
"To not forgive a man who tries?
797
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,095
"I see us so I know it cries,
798
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,855
"But with this pain, I'd rather..."
799
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,255
Ancl I literally sat in the studio
and I wrote,
800
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,495
"But with this pain,
I'd rather die."
801
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,735
And then...
802
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,895
...something in me felt like
I don't feel like that any more.
803
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,455
Even on the track,
I don't say "die".
804
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,215
I say, "But with this pain,
I'd rather...
805
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,415
HE INHALES SHARPLY
"With this pain,
806
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,655
"I'd rather paint, and try
and turn this broken picture
807
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,175
"into something that ain't
808
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,335
"This pain I'd rather hold
because it made me who I am
809
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,455
"It's probably time I let it go."
810
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,655
Like, so even just that journey
of, like, five years
811
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,935
between me writing that
and me writing Please,
812
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,615
where I'm super understanding.
813
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,655
Like, I'm like...
814
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,015
My...as much as it's my clad,
he's a flawed man, innit?
815
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,495
I've kind of got give him the same
grace that I want from the world.
816
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,655
The same grace
that I wanted from Maya.
817
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,055
Really and truly,
818
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,135
you're just a flawed man.
819
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,935
Ancl your mistake was a big one.
820
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,535
You fucked up bad, like,
as in you left your kids, like.
821
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,815
Did he start another family?
822
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,455
Yeah. I know he's really sorry.
823
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,055
And, like... I was going to ask.
Yeah, yeah, he's really sorry.
824
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,215
He's reached out through my mum,
through my sisters
825
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:56,975
about being sorry,
and he's spoken to people.
826
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,575
Have you repaired the relationship?
827
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,175
Not yet. Not properly.
828
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,335
Like, as in my...
Well, I'm going to speak out of...
829
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,175
Everyone's been...
830
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,215
We're going to...|'m going
to speak to him, yeah.
831
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,655
That's something you've been
thinking about? Yeah, 100%.
832
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,895
I have the power to, like, say,
"I forgive you and free you
833
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,735
"of all these things
that you probably feel
834
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,655
"because of this massive
mistake you made."
835
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,895
(SLOW MUSIC PLAYS)
836
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,255
# It's probably best for you if
837
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,575
# It's probably best for you for
838
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,935
# A fire from this perfect match
to burn us to the ground
839
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,615
# Ancl even though it's cold outside
840
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,975
# It's probably best we pray
841
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,535
# To lead us from this draw... #
842
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,135
In West London, Stormzy and his team
were playing me some tracks
843
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,455
they said were unfinished
from his upcoming third album,,
844
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,735
including the opener Fire And Water.
845
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,375
MUSIC: Fire And Water By Stormzy
846
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,935
Yeah. That's the... Yeah.
847
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,295
Ah. Yeah. That's the beginning to...
APPLAUSE
848
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,575
I think that one might be finished.
849
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,615
LAUGHTER
850
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,615
That was amazing.
851
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,255
The mission for this album
was so clear.
852
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,495
Let's just make
the most beautiful al...
853
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,975
...an album that makes you feel.
854
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,095
Like, we've just got to hit them
in the heart string.
855
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,455
Like, you just want to...
856
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,135
We just want to make people feel,
like.
857
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,015
Literally, the first time I got
in the studio with Kassa,
858
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,695
the first chord he played
was this song.
859
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:13,975
Ancl I'll grab this mic,
and just start singing,
860
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,535
or start rapping.
861
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,095
Ancl whatever comes out of me
would have been...
862
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,335
I would say all this album
would have just been
863
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,775
whatever came out straight away.
864
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,615
A lot of it wouldn't
have been premeditated.
865
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,575
You know, obviously, people know you
as having come out
866
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,175
of the grime scene originally. Yeah.
867
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,615
It's fair to say this album feels
quite a long way from that,
868
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,975
would you say? I don't think
it's really a rap album, is it?
869
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,295
Sonically... Not really.
870
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,375
Do you know what I call it?
I say it's a soul album.
871
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,575
A soul album. Yeah. That's what
I would think, as well.
872
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,935
Ancl even... And when I say
soul album, I don't mean...
873
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,855
...| don't mean soul music.
874
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,415
It's just something
that's come from my soul.
875
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,175
I couldn't tell you whether
it's a rap album, a grime album,
876
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,695
a soul album, a gospel album.
877
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,215
It's just...it's...it's just
a Stormz album.
878
00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:00,575
There's energies
and there's attitudes
879
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,775
that ain't on this album
because I don't feel like that.
880
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,575
I don't want to run up
and smash your face.
881
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,015
I don't feel like that right now.
882
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,655
Obviously you do brilliant
smash-your-face type lyrics,
883
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,535
as well... Yeah, of course.
..on tracks.
884
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,495
In fact, that's what many
of your fans probably like best
885
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,735
about what you do. Yeah.
886
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,375
Do you ever worry that they're going
to listen to this and think,
887
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,975
"Hey, where's the smash-your-face-in
track? I have not...
888
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,495
That the...
If I had the list of worries,
889
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,295
that wouldn't even be on there.
It wouldn't even be my last worry.
890
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,695
It wouldn't be on there.
891
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:32,335
With all this music, it's nothing
to do with the listener.
892
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,455
All I can do is feel what I feel
and document that.
893
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,455
Ancl whatever that is,
is what it's going to be.
894
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,495
Ancl I can't manipulate that
in the name of anything.
895
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,135
This time around, I'm like...
896
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,535
...| am the artist
I've always wanted to be.
897
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,495
I'm like... This is... I've made the
music I've always wanted to make.
898
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,495
Like, I've never been prouder
of anything in my life.
899
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,455
It feels like I've arrived.
900
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,615
SCREAMING AND CH EERING
901
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,415
In Glasgow, after his show,
Stormzy came off stage
902
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,735
to spend some time meeting his fans.
903
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,735
He told me, in the past, he'd had
a tendency to be critical
904
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,055
of his performances,
905
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,895
but more recently had learned
906
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,855
to be less hard on himself.
907
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,975
Mwah. See you, man.
908
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,855
In my time with him,
I'd got to know someone launched
909
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,295
from the swaggering world of grime,
910
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,015
achieving the highest echelons
of success
911
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,095
while still remaining true
to where he'd come from.
912
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,295
Wey! Ey!
913
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,255
Whoa! Oh, my clays!
914
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,495
Someone still healing from aspects
of his upbringing
915
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,535
and on a mission to build
a new life for himself.
916
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,695
INDISTINCT CHATTER AND LAUGHTER
917
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,615
So, what does the future hold?
918
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,695
Like, do you...? Is it a plan
to be kind of like...
919
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:09,175
...just a bit like jay-Z,
920
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,375
like a UK artist who keeps growing
and...or have an empire?
921
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,415
Or do you not think like that?
922
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,335
The idea of a successful future
for me...
923
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,015
Before, I think, if you asked me
this a few years ago,
924
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,415
it would have been so different,
925
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,335
would have been, like, man's trying
to build... And it's like, no, man.
926
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,735
I don't want to put that pressure
on myself to build what...
927
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,855
I don't even want to know
what I would fucking build.
928
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,975
But I know, like,
I want to...| want to...
929
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,175
...| always want to be the greatest
musician I can be.
930
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,015
Ancl I want to make great art,
and art that moves people
931
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,775
and makes people feel.
932
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,655
And away from that,
933
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,695
I just want to be with my family
and my friends and, like...
934
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:46,655
Ancl I do want...| do want
a family of my own,
935
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,335
and I want to get married,
and I want to, like, settle.
936
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,615
So, my...my idea of an amazing
future is, like, having my home
937
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,735
and kids running around it,
and my missus being there.
938
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,415
The home that you're building
at the moment, the Reno. Yeah.
939
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,935
A big thing about it
is the dinner table
940
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,775
because all the man, them,
are going to come,
941
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,215
and they're going to bring
their missus, and they're going
942
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:11,175
to bring their kids, and we're going
to eat dinner on the dinner table.
943
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,975
Ancl Christmas, I've always got
this thing when Christmas comes,
944
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,055
I'm going to fucking...my house is
going to be the Christmas house.
945
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,415
You know, like, the lights,
946
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,095
and everyone comes here
Christmas Eve, and we've got
947
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,655
a fake Santa... Yeah. ..and all
the kids get presents, like.
948
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,135
Ancl at Easter, we're going to do
a big fucking Easter egg hunt
949
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,375
with all the kids. You know
what I mean? Can I come?
950
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,335
Of course you can come, Louis.
Of course you can.
951
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,655
I'm ready to be, like...
just like some grown man.
952
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,455
Because I've been a kid for long, I
think. Mm.
953
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,695
Like, I've been like a kid for long.
954
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:41,415
How are we doing?
Shall we call it good?
955
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,095
Is there anything else
you wanted to say?
956
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,695
Um, no, I don't think so.
957
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,215
You know, I'm going viral on TikTok.
I've heard.
958
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:52,455
Did you know that?
959
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,415
# My money don't jiggle jiggle
It folds. #
960
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,615
Did you write that? Oh, no.
961
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,415
I thought you didn't.
962
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,815
I'm not even joking.
963
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,855
I've been approached by a...like,
a record label or something.
964
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,895
Oh, is it?
They might drop it as a single.
965
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,415
Is it. Are you going to do it?
I don't know.
966
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,055
Do you think I'd get a guest on it?
967
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,415
No, I don't know.
No, I think it's just you.
968
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,175
If only I knew a rapper.