1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,455 Sweetie, this is Louis. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,255 What's the parrot's name? Sweetheart. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,975 Hello. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,655 GRUFF VOICE: What are you doing? Sweetie, what are you doing? 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,255 This is Louis. Does it help if you use that tone of voice? 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,135 Well, that is the tone of voice she uses. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,375 Aren't you... Who's a pretty girl then? 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,255 Boy or girl? Girl. Girl. Sweetheart, 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,455 Louis, Sweetheart. Well... 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,935 GRUFF VOICES: Hello, Sweetheart. Hello, Sweetheart. 11 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,535 All right, lovely? 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,335 How you doing, sweetheart? 13 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,575 I'm told that there was an incident during lockdown 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,975 when she was concerned about your well being. 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,335 This carpet was turned back, and I walked along here, tripped 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,415 on that and fell into that corner. 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,255 Ancl nobody was in the house. 18 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,735 Ancl I couldn't get up. 19 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,695 Ancl all the time, the whole time, 20 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,415 and I was there for exactly half an hour, 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,495 She said, "What are you doing? 22 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,215 "What are you doing? 23 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,455 "What are you doing?" Like it was some game. 24 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,295 I wouldn't be without her for the world. 25 00:01:05,320 --> 00:01:06,935 Shall we go into the other room? 26 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:09,695 What are you doing? What are you doing? 27 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,375 What are you doing? What are you doing? 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,575 Well, look at this. 29 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,215 What have they done? Have they done something to your room? 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,135 Well... Got weird umbrellas. 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,935 Damejudi Dench is one of the most admired and most garlanded actors 32 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:32,015 of her generation. 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,135 You have a larger crew than Bond has. 34 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,855 Do you know that? 35 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,815 An icon of both stage and screen, 36 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,775 she'd allowed me into her home in Surrey to talk about her long life 37 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,335 and legendary career. 38 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,575 So have you grown quite fond of the parrot? 39 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,295 I've grown very fond of the parrot, actually. 40 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,615 I've had a lot of pets. 41 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,015 We had 17 cats during the war. 42 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,695 During which war? 43 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,135 Well, the Second World War. 44 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,615 Louis! Well, I didn't mean the First World War. Ouch! 45 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,015 I didn't mean it like that. 46 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,455 Bloody hell! I was just confused, it seems... 47 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,335 Am I the only person who heard that? 48 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,215 Well, I didn't mean... Which war, which war?! 49 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,895 I thought you might mean that, 50 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:14,095 I thought you might mean the Vietnam War. 51 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,415 Oh, no. 52 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,855 The Second World War. 53 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,095 Did I recover? 54 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,815 I want to see those awards over there. Oh. Oh, my word. 55 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,415 That's my whole phalanx of BAFTAs. 56 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:36,855 One, two, three, four, five. 57 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,335 There's five BAFTAs. 58 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,495 That's, that leaves a couple unaccounted for, at least. 59 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,415 They used to have wooden bases. 60 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,655 Yes, they used to. My three BAFTAs. Did you catch that, judi? 61 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,335 What? My three BAFTAs have been like this one. 62 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,535 Did YOU catch that? 63 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,895 Honestly. My three BAFTAs are like this one. 64 00:02:56,920 --> 00:02:58,215 Not like these. 65 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,135 This, you feel the weight of it. 66 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,055 Ancl now try smiling and standing up. 67 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,575 The Oscar. Being a slip of a girl. 68 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,855 WOW! 69 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,775 Now. That weighs a ton. 70 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,015 Shakespeare in Love. I won it for. Eight minutes. 71 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,015 Eight minutes of screen time? About that. 72 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,975 You were so accomplished by that time. 73 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,215 Having won tons of other awards and having done most 74 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,575 of your important work in theatre, was it a big thrill 75 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,415 winning the Oscar? 76 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,055 It was a big surprise. 77 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:28,855 It was a big, big surprise. 78 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,295 Ancl that beautiful man. 79 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,735 Oh, see, I'm hopeless. 80 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,655 Robin Williams? 81 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,535 Robin Williams. 82 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,255 There is nothing like a dame. 83 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,135 The Oscar goes to Damejudi Dench! 84 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,575 Ancl he gave it to me. 85 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,135 He curtsied. 86 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,615 I think I fell up the stairs. 87 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,135 It's the first Oscar for Damejudi Dench... 88 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,575 Heaven. 89 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,215 To many, judi is best known for her performances 90 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,655 in film, her regal turn as Elizabeth I 91 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,855 in Shakespeare in Love. 92 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,295 I know something of a woman in a man's profession. 93 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,975 Yes, by God, I do know about that. 94 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,215 And a ground-breaking re-imagining of the MI6 chief M in seven 95 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,135 James Bond films. 96 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,655 Because I think you're a sexist, misogynist dinosaur, a relic 97 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,175 of the Cold War, whose boyish charms, though wasted on me, 98 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,535 obviously appeal to that young woman I sent out to evaluate you. 99 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,895 Point taken. 100 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,575 But her first love has always been theatre, 101 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,535 and especially Shakespeare. 102 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,255 Yet... 103 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:39,375 ...here's a spot. Out. 104 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,615 Damn spot, out, I say. 105 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,815 I was hoping to understand the source of her remarkable talent. 106 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:57,895 I think I'm conscious during this interview of, as much 107 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,775 as I've tried, how under prepared I am because of the body of work 108 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,855 that you have. You've done... That's the best way though, isn't it? 109 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,815 I hope so. The closest I could get to experiencing you on stage 110 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:13,175 was watching a TV adaptation of a production of Macbeth. 111 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,015 I was watching it last night and one... Last night? 112 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,055 Well, on YouTube... You're so sly. 113 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,295 I was trying to catch up with my homework. You're so sly. 114 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,535 I was trying to catch up with, 115 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,055 I was feeling very under prepared. Do your bloody homework. 116 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,735 Do you like playing Lady Macbeth? I mean, how did you find...? 117 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,575 Yeah, I loved it. 118 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,935 Absolutely loved it. 119 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,295 The intensity of it was very, very exciting. 120 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,375 Because the audience were where you are. 121 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,495 I often think about the theatre and in some ways in competition 122 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,775 with cinema and special effects and everything that Hollywood 123 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,135 can throw at a production. 124 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,095 But when you feel that the space between you and the performers 125 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,295 is dissolved and they come among you and you feel that charge, 126 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,455 then it's something really special, something that... There's nothing 127 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,735 like it at all. 128 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,935 Ancl Monday night is different from Tuesday, 129 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,495 and Friday and Saturday, 130 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,015 and none of them are ever the same. 131 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:16,295 Work in progress is what the theatre is, entirely to do with not only 132 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,615 you on the stage, but the audience watching you and people coming 133 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,775 in late and somebody forgetting a prop or dropping something 134 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,935 or all those things that keep you 135 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,375 absolutely, you know, they, they affect you here. 136 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,575 I mean, it's extraordinary performance and you're, I'm not 137 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,415 going to spare your blushes, 138 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,015 you're an acting genius and you generate a very palpable 139 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,335 sense of despair or rage or laughter or whatever it may be. 140 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,415 Are you accessing something inside? 141 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,095 I've read a quote of yours where you were asked if you were "method" 142 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,455 and you said, "Well, I suppose all of us are a bit method." 143 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,855 Well, of course we are. 144 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,895 Because if you draw on yourself, which you have to... 145 00:06:57,280 --> 00:06:59,335 ...| suppose that's... 146 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,135 ...that's method. 147 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,015 That's why I think that I always say to every young actor, what you must 148 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,175 always have is... 149 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,135 ...without consciously knowing it, you must have a kind 150 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,215 of camera here just set in your head, because you should 151 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,575 just always be aware of very small, 152 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,695 small and large things that happen. 153 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,135 Be aware. just be aware of things because sometimes you're going 154 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,855 to have to draw on it. 155 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,455 But you did brilliantly well at drama school at Central, 156 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,935 and you were discovered and cast as Ophelia straight out of drama 157 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,055 school, which, for those who don't know, is Hamlet's girlfriend, 158 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,055 isn't it? Oh, it made the papers. It made the papers. Why? 159 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,895 Well, because they said, how dare the so-called National Theatre 160 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,975 of Britain get a complete newcomer 161 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,255 to play Ophelia? 162 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,375 They were very cross. So it was taken away from me at the end. 163 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,415 Well, that's not quite right, is it? 164 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,415 Because Kenneth Tynan, who was probably the most famous theatre 165 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,175 critic of his time, thought you were brilliant, didn't he? 166 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,455 He gave you a good review. Did he? Didn't he? 167 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,815 That's what you said on Desert Island Discs. 168 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,135 Oh, I don't believe that. 169 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,095 I think you got some good reviews. 170 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,415 I mean, I get bad reviews. 171 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,335 Believe it or not, I know you're shocked. But we all do. 172 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,175 We all do. And I think one of the things I enjoy about you is that one 173 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,655 of the ways I think you process those very rare occasions 174 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,055 where someone says something silly or unappreciative, you sort of see 175 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,295 the funny side of it and... You have to keep your sense of humour. 176 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,335 ...talk about, I don't know, is there a critic called Charles Spencer? 177 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,455 Yeah. Do you remember what you wrote to him? 178 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,815 Remind me. You said, "Now| know what CS stands for - 179 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,015 "complete shit." 180 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,295 Imagine writing back to a critic. 181 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,415 He probably loved it. 182 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,415 And then he wrote back to you saying, "Well, I can tell you my 183 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,015 "wife and children don't think I'm a complete shit. Neither does my cat." 184 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,695 Do you know, I'd forgotten that. 185 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,975 I'd forgotten. You keep a notebook of weird things that people 186 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,575 have said to you... Not any more, because I can't see to read. ..after performances? 187 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,895 Yes, I have clone that. 188 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,495 Like a great sweet, el... 189 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,135 I'm not going to say his name. 190 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,575 ...sweet, elderly friend of mine brought his mother once to Stratford 191 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,895 and I thought I'm, for her, 192 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,535 I'm going to give the performance of my life. 193 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:21,495 Ancl when they came in afterwards, 194 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,175 she walked in and I went... 195 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,095 She said, "We had the most terrible time getting here." 196 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,255 LAUGHTER You know... 197 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,935 It's wonderful. 198 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,255 And then one of the examples you give is people saying 199 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,095 you must be exhausted. 200 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,495 But then I read that and thought, well, is that, presumably that's 201 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,175 intended as... Many people, the majority of people say 202 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,975 you must be exhausted. 203 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,295 Is that, does that not feel like a compliment? 204 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,655 No! A compliment? Why not? 205 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:52,415 That's not what you're getting. 206 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,855 They say, "Look, you were out there busying around." "You must be exhausted." 207 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,775 LAUGHTER 208 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,735 It's a good, if nothing else comes from this program me, if everyone now 209 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,975 realises that that's not a compliment to a performer, what's 210 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,175 the best thing you could say afterwards? 211 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,215 There must be something you could say better than that. 212 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,975 I think it's Laurence Olivier who said that if you've seen 213 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,535 a terrible performance, that you have to say, "Well, 214 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:21,175 "you've done it again..." 215 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,855 ...because that way you haven't really lied. 216 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,895 I'm sure that I've had that. 217 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,415 There's a famous story about you going for a screen test 218 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,415 very early on that always comes up. It wasn't even the test. 219 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,815 It wasn't even the test? No. It was an interview. 220 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,935 Was it an American director or a British director? 221 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,495 I'm not going to tell you who it was. You're very discreet. 222 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,855 He interviewed me charmingly, and then he said, "It's 223 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,335 "been very nice meeting you." 224 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,095 He said, "I'm sorry, but," he said, "I don't think you'll ever film 225 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,895 "as you have everything wrong with your face," he said. 226 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,775 What did he mean, do you think? 227 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:13,575 Well, I think he meant that I didn't have the classic face for films, 228 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,055 and I think it's quite right. 229 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,655 Then, fortunately, films have moved on a bit, so it doesn't matter 230 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:21,775 what you look like, really. 231 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,215 I mean, you were and are a very beautiful woman. 232 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,055 So I think... Oh, really? 233 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,455 ...| think it was a strange thing for him to say. 234 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,575 Who knows? It's very odd. I didn't want to make a film anyway. 235 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,815 Well, this is what I was going to ask. Did you, were you keen 236 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,015 to get into films or you were there just to pass the time? 237 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:46,535 My agent told me he wanted to see me and I went, "No, no, no." 238 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:50,775 I mean, I was in the place, you know, I wanted to be. 239 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,295 We're going to feed the ducks. Yes, let's do it. 240 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,695 Hello! Are they already waiting for us? Oh, yes, of course. 241 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,895 Hello. Hello. Hello, duckies. QUACKING 242 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,935 Hello, duckies. Hello. 243 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,655 They're supposed to be quite aggressive, aren't they, mallards? 244 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:14,255 Well, the males are terribly aggressive to the females. 245 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,815 That's what I mean. Yeah. 246 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,295 Their sexual mores leave a lot to be desired. Do you know that they drown 247 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,575 them sometimes? The males drown the females? 248 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,215 They all try and get at her, hump her in the water. 249 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,775 I mean, we think of them very benignly, but they don't 250 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,255 have good manners. 251 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,415 Do you drink champagne? 252 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:37,815 Yeah. I brought you some. 253 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,455 You brought me some? Yeah. Champagne? 254 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,255 Wasn't supposed to be a big... It was a surprise. 255 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,975 I'm not trying to make it a big production, I was going to do 256 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,855 off camera, so it didn't seem like here I am holding my champagne. 257 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,775 I say, it is a production number. Here we go. 258 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,055 Ancl it's in a case. It's in a case. 259 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,775 I'm not sure if it's any good. Is it Bollinger? 260 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,775 Yeah. Hoh, only Bollinger. 261 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,495 LOUIS LAUGHS 262 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,255 I told my mum and dad I was doing this and I think it's the first time 263 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,455 in my career where I felt they were genuinely impressed. 264 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,775 They thought that ne'er-do-well has come to something at last. 265 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,255 I don't believe you, Louis. They definitely were impressed. 266 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,615 No, my dad, I called, my dad lives in America, and I told him 267 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,295 and he was like, "Really?" 268 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,175 He was really thrilled, as was I. 269 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,095 I don't want to make it about them, as was I, to hear that you'd agreed. 270 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,135 As was I. 271 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:27,575 Okey-do key. I'm taking the Bollinger. 272 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,655 Look out for the very small door, please. 273 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:33,295 It says, "I've been expecting you, Mr Bond." 274 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,295 Yes. That's for somebody else, you don't know. 275 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,455 There are three letters here that I couldn't resist having framed. 276 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,095 What does that say? 277 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:46,455 The first one says "Damejudi Olivia Dench, care of tiny front door 278 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,415 "in deepest Surrey, England." 279 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,615 But my friend, the postman got it to me. 280 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,695 What does that say? 281 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,215 This one says "Damejudi Dench, somewhere in or near a woodland 282 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,135 "in Sussex." 283 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,975 Isn't it amazing? And those got to you? 284 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,135 Ancl it got to me. Aren't they clever? 285 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,615 And here's Michael. 286 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,495 There's Mr Mikey, in that chair. 287 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,175 Only it was red then. And that's the actual chair. 288 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,575 But you've had it re-upholstered. 289 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,535 Yeah. Nice. 290 00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:20,175 That's very, very, very good of him and very like him. 291 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,535 Do you know when it was done? 292 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,575 I think it was clone a year or two before he cited... 293 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,375 "actually. 294 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,935 Judi married fellow Shakespearean actor Michael Williams in 1971. 295 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,015 The following year, they had a daughter nicknamed Finty. 296 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,295 You're not as tall as I thought you were. 297 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,255 Nor are you. 298 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,535 Judi and Michael worked together often, most famously on television 299 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,055 in the sitcom A Fine Romance. 300 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,255 Ancl tonight's award for best performance by an actress 301 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,495 in a leading role goes t0judiDench. 302 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,935 She gets there a big kiss by her husband, Michael Williams. 303 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,135 Their real life love and his pride in her success was well documented. 304 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,455 Your marriage to Michael Williams was well known for being well, 305 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,415 a happy marriage. Very. 306 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:29,895 What was it about him, do you think? 307 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,455 What was the, and what was the foundation of the relationship? 308 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,855 Because I'm always curious about successful marriages. 309 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,575 You can't tell, Louis. Sense of humour. 310 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,415 Probably mostly. 311 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,735 Michael used to laugh, and when he laughed, he used to cry. 312 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,735 I think mostly that. Interest in the same things, of course, 313 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,935 but I mean, what is it? 314 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,415 It's impossible to tell. 315 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,335 Whose decision was it to do a sitcom together? How did that come up? 316 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,815 And not just a sitcom... We were asked. ..but one in which you play an unlikely... 317 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,055 We were just asked so we said yeah, why not? 318 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,615 And was working with Michael part of what appealed about that? 319 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,295 Oh, definitely. 320 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,095 No question about it. 321 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:14,215 But then suddenly Michael and I got the Clover butter advertisement 322 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,895 which bought my house, 323 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,375 bought this house. 324 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,775 See, I didn't know about this. Tell me more about that. 325 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,415 Oh, we did an advertisement for Clover butter. 326 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,375 Because you love it so much. 327 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,015 Well, Louis, of course. 328 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,735 Would this have been around the time of...? 329 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,415 I think I'm getting a dim record. Well, I've been here, 330 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,495 we've been here 30, something like 38 years ago. 331 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,215 You were just a child in knickerbockers running about. 14, 332 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,735 I would have been. 333 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,535 Can you dig or someone can dig that out? I wouldn't mind having a look at that on the phone. 334 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,855 Would you be curious to see it? 335 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,975 You could. No, I don't want to see it. 336 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,935 Well, you'd think you could improve on the performance. 337 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,895 Yes... I might want to take it on tour. 338 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:02,415 Was it a series or just a one? 339 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,855 No, no, no. just one. Here we go. Jen's got it. 340 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,695 Are you happy to bring it over, Jen? 341 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,055 Jen, you're so sneaky behind me. 342 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,175 ...saute the mushrooms. 343 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,415 That's Clover. 344 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,335 Clover is churned with cream from fresh milk 345 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:18,975 with added vegetable oil. 346 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,895 So you can cook with it, just like butter. 347 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,695 So it spreads from the fridge. 348 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,415 Spreads? Like butter. Mm. 349 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,495 Only they can't call it butter. 350 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,655 They can call it bread, though. 351 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:33,695 Yeah. 352 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,495 This was... Hang on. This is surreal. 353 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,215 Can we just pause? This is so confusing. 354 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,935 I have no... Hey, jen, don't go. 355 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,095 "Recollection. I just want to make sure. ..whatsoever. 356 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:46,095 I asked if there was more than one. 357 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:48,735 There's about ten of them. See... It was 40 years. 358 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,295 It was over 40 years ago. 359 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,175 I'll look for more. 360 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,215 I wouldn't. 361 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,095 Nevertheless. 362 00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:58,095 Thank you. There you go. 363 00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:59,695 Good old Clover butter. 364 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,255 You can't call it butter. I said... 365 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,815 Can't call it butter. Michael just said that in the advert. 366 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,975 Yes, he just told us. Yes. Stop. 367 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,815 Not butter. 368 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:14,575 You were together from '71 to 2001. 369 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,575 Yeah. 370 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,615 Are you OK talking about how it came to an end? 371 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,295 How he came to die? 372 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,855 I don't want to mention it if... 373 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,815 Well, he, he, he wasn't well. 374 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,935 And...and I'm not good at it, actually. 375 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,775 Erm, yes, he, he, erm... 376 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,775 Well, he... 377 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,335 He died in 2001... 378 00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:50,695 SHE CLEARS HER THROAT 379 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:55,855 ...of lung cancer. 380 00:18:57,120 --> 00:19:00,375 Smoking, you see? All that smoking when they were young. 381 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,095 Erm... 382 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:11,535 I was in New York and they said he was not well. 383 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:19,575 So my agent flew out and we came back on Concorde the next clay. 384 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,775 Ancl it aborted take-off. 385 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,495 Ancl we got off and we went back and they said, "Oh, well, it'll be all right." 386 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,255 Ancl we got on another plane, same thing happened. 387 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,935 So it took us a long, long time to get back. 388 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,455 But we were back and got back here. 389 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,015 Ancl so we were all in the house together. 390 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,335 And that was very, very good indeed. 391 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,895 You talked about immersing yourself in work as a way of... 392 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,535 Yeah. ..getting through it. 393 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,855 Well, at least you're getting on and thinking of something else 394 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,735 and being, 395 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,815 using up a bit of energy and having to think about, you know. 396 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,895 Uh. 397 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:23,975 I'm assuming Finty and Sam. Can we go? I don't know where they'll be waiting. 398 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,575 They'll be waiting. They're not in the, not in the pods. 399 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,055 It must be baking in there, can you imagine? That's where we sat. 400 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,735 You'd feel like a tomato plant. I like it. 401 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,335 Maybe I'd get taller. 402 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:36,815 Here it is. Maybe I'd be very tall. 403 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,055 A short drive away, 404 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,535 we were at a restaurant that celebrity chef Aldo Zilli runs 405 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,095 from his home. 406 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:47,855 We'd been joined byjudi's daughter, Finty, and her grandson, Sam. 407 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,975 Lead on Macduff. 408 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,975 Oh, look at this, isn't it heaven? 409 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,055 Cheers. Cheers. 410 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,695 Cheers. Cheers, my love. 411 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,535 During lockdown, judi enjoyed an unlikely TikTok stardom after Sam 412 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,175 moved in with her and began posting videos of them. 413 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,335 # juice, sauce, little bit of dressing 414 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:11,335 # Ice, wrist, little bit of flexing. # 415 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:13,095 So I'm going to read you a lyric. 416 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,735 You have to finish the next lyric. 417 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,495 Let me take you dancing. 418 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,935 You've nothing on tonight. 419 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,855 Actually, quite a good line. 420 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,335 Part five of telling jokes to my grandma. 421 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:27,215 Why did the lobster blush? 422 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,255 Because the seaweed. 423 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,935 My word, are they all for me? 424 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,095 Thank you so much. 425 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:37,855 Oh! 426 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,495 It is sensational. 427 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,975 You should try one of these. 428 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,975 Finty, was it your idea that 429 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,295 Sam should move down and be with judi? 430 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,895 Sammy was going a bit stir crazy in London, so I just thought, well, 431 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,095 it's the sort of, it's the perfect thing. 432 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:55,975 And also, when, when, at what other time, naturally do you get 433 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,135 as a grandmother and a grandson, 434 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,815 do you get to spend that time together? Mm. 435 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,175 But it was a good thing, wasn't it? 100%. 436 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,655 It was a very good thing. 437 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,935 It was very, very good thing. 438 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,655 I loved it. How long did you move in for? 439 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:09,935 Ten months. 440 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,775 Ten months?! Yeah. 441 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,655 Can we talk a little bit about the TikToks 442 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,455 and how that came about? 443 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,815 I went down to Ma's and we just started posting videos 444 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,095 like very silly videos. 445 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,375 There were days where we would post a video that would take kind 446 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,975 of five minutes. We would have a really good laugh. 447 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,375 Ancl then the next clay I would say to Ma, right guess numbers, guess, 448 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,775 guess the view count. 449 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,055 Ancl Ma would be like 10,000. 450 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,735 Ancl then I'd be like two and a half million. 451 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,855 She'd be like, "Right, what do we do next? What shall we do?" 452 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,695 Ancl it was such a lovely thing to do. 453 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,735 It was a hugely good laugh. 454 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,015 I mean, we've always been a family who likes to be together. 455 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,175 This is delicious. Oh! My God. 456 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,695 Is this lobster ravioli? Yes, darling. 457 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,975 It's to die for, isn't it? It's good. 458 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,655 To absolutely understand Ma I think, 459 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,735 I think the most intrinsic thing about Ma that is way bigger 460 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,415 than the job or the profession, 461 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,895 is that Ma hates being on her own. 462 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,575 I think that's why lockdown was so hard because suddenly 463 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,055 the people went. I think I'm right in saying this. 464 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,495 I don't think I'm speaking out of turn. 465 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:31,255 I think Ma's energy and, and light and humour and everything comes 466 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,935 from being with people. 467 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,135 Oh, that was amazing. Very good. Would you like another one of these? 468 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,335 No, I'm... Oh, my word. "I've had my fill. Mama? 469 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:44,015 Well, I'm not going to eat for a fortnight. 470 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,135 Have we got time to...to do a TikTok? 471 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,735 Why don't we do that one? You could do that one. 472 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,335 # Eh, eh, eh. # I can't remember that. 473 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:53,695 It's easy, look. 474 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,855 No, it's that, at the end. 475 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,735 Yeah. Even I picked that one up pretty quick. 476 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,495 This'll be appalling. 477 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,855 Are we like that? Like that? 478 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,255 You go forward. No, I'm good. 479 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,575 No, you forward. Mum, you come... 480 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,055 Yes. 481 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,095 OK. 482 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,895 Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm losing it... 483 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,535 Outside, over our impromptu dance recital, we reflected on what Finty 484 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,935 had said about her mum's reliance on people. 485 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,215 Are we ready? 486 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,375 But in judi's case, a love of company had come packaged 487 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,695 with a once in a generation theatrical gift and a refusal 488 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,895 to take herself too seriously. 489 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,095 LAUGHTER 490 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,135 So shall we talk about how you moved into doing more films? 491 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,255 It happened relatively late. I mean, 492 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,575 you was one of the, if not the most, well, one of the outstanding 493 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,815 actors of your generation on stage, and then mid-nineties... 494 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,535 Yeah. ..it seems as though Hollywood came knocking. 495 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,535 Decided to drag the jewel of the British stage... 496 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,855 SHE SCOFFS 497 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,775 ...onto the silver screen. When they came to talk 498 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,575 to you about doing Bond, can you remember? 499 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,255 How did it feel? Well, I came home here. 500 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,735 Ancl I said to Michael, "They want me to play 501 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,535 He said, "You've got to do it. You've got to do it." 502 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,215 He said, "I've got to live with a Bond woman," he said. 503 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:32,215 That was '95 or thereabouts. 504 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,575 It was Pierce Brosnan, wasn't it, was the Bond? Mm. 505 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,015 It's a world away from Shakespeare and, you know, for the National, isn't it? 506 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,135 Yes. It's entirely different world altogether. 507 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,455 Both Pierce, 508 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,575 I think Pierce wouldn't mind me saying, we were you both very, 509 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,935 very frightened, you know, suddenly taking over those two roles, 510 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:59,535 it was very, very demanding and, and one was nervous about it. 511 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,855 Can I just...how I see it, you're an amazing, quite 512 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,495 evidently legendary actor. 513 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,255 And I would have thought for you, you could have, 514 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,495 not sleepwalk through, that sounds wrong, 515 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,815 but it's not like doing Lady Macbeth. 516 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,855 No, it isn't. 517 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,175 You don't get so many goes at it either. 518 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,375 I mean, for me, the whole filming is... 519 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,815 ...is agony for me simply because you can't... 520 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,095 ...once it's, well, it's obvious, isn't it? 521 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:32,295 Once it's there, it's there. 522 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,255 If you're in the theatre you can get it better on Tuesday 523 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,215 and then perhaps not so good on Friday, but in the film you, 524 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,055 you work on it and you do it, 525 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,415 and then the director decides, 526 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,655 and says, "Cut," and that's a print. 527 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,455 Well, I mean, there are so many films I've clone that I've never 528 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,815 seen, and I don't want to see them. 529 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,855 Why don't you want to see them? 530 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,415 Because I would be irritated. 531 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,295 You might be pleased. You might think, "Wow, I did really well in that." No, I don't think I'd be p... 532 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,015 I might think, "Oh, yes, that bit's all right." 533 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,415 You worked with Clint Eastwood as a director? 534 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,735 Clint Eastwood? Yeah. I have. 535 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,095 He's the most laid back man I have ever met. 536 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:22,935 You start at nine. 537 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,335 You finish at four. 538 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:27,135 AS EASTWOOD: "In your own time." 539 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,255 So he'd say. Really? 540 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,055 Ancl then at the end of the scene, he says, "Stop, stop." Not cut? 541 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,335 No, no, no. Not cut. And he didn't shout it either. 542 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:38,295 Just that "in your own time". 543 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,255 "Could you, Mr Eastwood, 544 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,775 "could, could we possibly do that again?" 545 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,135 "Why?" 546 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,295 "Sorry." "why?" 547 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,055 "Well, because we've just clone it once. 548 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,375 "Could we have another go?" 549 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,615 "NO-" 550 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,695 What was the film? 551 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,735 It was called] Edgar. 552 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,615 Oh, about] Edgar Hoover, FBI Chief. 553 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,415 Not curious to see it? 554 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,855 I'll see it at some point. 555 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,495 Do you think you were good in it? 556 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,375 I have no idea. 557 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,215 Can I throw a left field one at you? 558 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,015 Chronicles of Riddick... Oops. ..with Vin Diesel. 559 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,135 That is so left field, Louis. 560 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,655 Are you sending me out? 561 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,175 You bet. 562 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,575 I don't think you've seen it, have you? I have never seen it, 563 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,535 but my family send me up about it, 564 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,895 rotten. 565 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,655 I only saw a little clip on YouTube. 566 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,815 I Googled on YouTube or whatever I put in... 567 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,255 That's very, very sneaky. 568 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,895 ...judi Dench Chronicles of Riddick. 569 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,295 I thought, I don't think I want to sit through the whole 570 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,255 thing, but based on the little clip, you were on a spaceship 571 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,575 and or something, and you kept disappearing and reappearing. 572 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,415 I think they said you're an elemental. 573 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,815 Were you an elemental? I was called an elemental. 574 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,015 Why did that come up? 575 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,295 Because I was at the Haymarket Theatre and Vin Diesel came 576 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,415 to see me. He sent me some flowers, 577 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,095 which stretched... 578 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,055 "certainly the length of this sofa. 579 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,015 In fact, they couldn't get up the stairs to my dressing room 580 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,335 and left downstairs. 581 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,175 Well, that's pretty nice, isn't it? 582 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,815 So, of course I did The Chronicles of Riddick. 583 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,055 The Chronicles of Riddick. 584 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,495 We don't need to talk very long about Chronicles of Riddick. 585 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,295 You can't, because I know nothing more about it. 586 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,095 I have no recollection, nor have I seen it. And I don't know much 587 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,695 about it, but it seems to be set in the future. You can't resist it, 588 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,375 can you? Star Wars, no, I... You can't resist it. 589 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,295 What was it like for you? 590 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,495 Because obviously '95, you did your first Bond. 591 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,975 Then what was it, '97 you did 592 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,095 Mrs Brown, which I read was intended as a TV film, 593 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,495 although when I watched it I thought, how could this be on TV? 594 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,175 It was Harvey Weinstein, who said, "This is not a television film, 595 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,535 "this is a grown-up film." 596 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,455 So Harvey Weinstein saw it and said this is a proper film. 597 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,215 He did. And then that following, 598 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,895 following on from that, john Madden, same director, cast 599 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,175 you in Shakespeare in Love? Yes. 600 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,055 Which was also a Harvey Weinstein film, Miramax, as it was then. Yes. 601 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,375 Can I ask a question? 602 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,055 And this isn't, I want to talk about this very delicately, 603 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,415 because it is a sensitive subject. 604 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,455 Harvey Weinstein. Yes. 605 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,775 He's been convicted of various things, assault, sexual assaults. 606 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,135 It must be upsetting or difficult trying to, um, resolve 607 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,935 what you read about someone? Yes, it is. Because you've spoken 608 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,735 very positively about Harvey... When you've had, 609 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,935 absolutely no experience of that. 610 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,615 Whatsoever. 611 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,135 But I know that there are people who have. 612 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,615 I think I worked with Harvey six or seven times, maybe. 613 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,895 Never, ever, ever 614 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,855 have I had that experience. 615 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:06,055 So, he's only just been jokey and funny, 616 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,015 and kind and complimentary. 617 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,615 Ancl so that's all I know. 618 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,135 I don't know another side. 619 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,175 Although I don't in any way, 620 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:29,200 erm, not have immense compassion for anyone who had another side or, 621 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,455 presented to them. 622 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,495 Shall we look at some of the trees? Yeah. The memorial trees? 623 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,855 I have to hang on. Here we go. Because otherwise I can fall over. 624 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,415 Take a firm hold. Yeah. 625 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,935 This is Helen McCrory. 626 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,735 Well, I read about her dying. That was very sad. 627 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,815 She was enjoying a lot of success in Peaky Blinders. That's right. 628 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,015 Natasha Richardson. Yes. That was sad. 629 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,655 She died after a skiing accident. She did indeed. 630 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,335 And how did you start the practice of dedicating trees? 631 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,895 Well, I've always, I love them. 632 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,255 I love trees. Mike and I just 633 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,855 thought what a nice thing it would be to do. 634 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,255 Now, then down to see Mikey's tree. 635 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,695 There's Mikey. Beautiful. There's Mikey. 636 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,975 It's a lovely tree. 637 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,455 He liked it very much. 638 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,375 So we didn't plant that one, that was here. 639 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,975 Ancl it seems only right as he found the house and, you know, 640 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,615 beautiful straight tree. 641 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,575 I like that. 642 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,935 What kind of tree is it? That's a good question. 643 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,015 I can tell you if you like. Tell me. 644 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,815 Well, I'll have to use my app. 645 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,535 I've got the most amazing app. 646 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,535 There it is. What is it? 647 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,455 Green ash. 648 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,775 A green ash. 649 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,215 That's good to know. 650 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,895 Apparently, the leaves are enjoyed by tadpoles. 651 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,375 Gosh, they've got to climb a long way, haven't they? Well, 652 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,815 it's not that far, is it? They'll never make it. 653 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,295 Now, I'll take you to see something. 654 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,615 But I haven't been to it for a long time. 655 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,095 OK, we're going off the path now. 656 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,335 Is that right? We're going off piste. 657 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,895 Now you're going to get quite a shock. 658 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,975 Oh, wow. Who have we got here? 659 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,455 I wasn't expecting that. No, I bet. 660 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,175 And it was for your film Victoria and Abdul? Yeah. 661 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,095 They said to me, "Do you want her?" 662 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,295 I thought, "No, well, not really." 663 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,895 Ancl then I thought, "Actually, I know a nice place for her." 664 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,335 Ancl it is, you see how much the birds like her. 665 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,655 Ancl so she came down here and she quite likes it there. 666 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,095 Good, good, good, good, good. 667 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,615 This is where Sammy had his party when he was 25, 668 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,975 a few weeks ago, he had the silent disco. 669 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,415 Have you heard about that? 670 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,775 Yeah. I've done that. 671 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,455 Have you clone it? Grooving around with headphones? Yes. 672 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,775 SHE LAUGHS 673 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,775 You're too tall for my garden. 674 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,375 Down, down, down there we go. I don't have to bend so low, you see. 675 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,175 I've read that you were a Quaker. 676 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,815 Yeah, I'm a Quaker. 677 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,055 Do you go to meetings? Yes. 678 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,535 Often? 679 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,175 Not often enough. 680 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,455 Well, is there a Quaker view of the afterlife? 681 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,015 Oh, don't ask me those kind of questions. Too deep? 682 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,655 No. Too maudlin? 683 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,015 Too gloomy? 684 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,095 Too theological? Too final. 685 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,735 Here we go, too final, did you say? 686 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,095 Well, it's the afterlife. I mean, who knows? 687 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,775 Might be parties in silent discos. 688 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,015 Oh, I think so. 689 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,855 Did you think after Michael that that might be it or not, 690 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,575 or you just didn't think? Yes. 691 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,175 You thought maybe... Yes, I would never marry again, no. ..| won't find a new... 692 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,015 I mean, some people would be thinking at a certain point, 693 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,055 I've grieved enough, I'm not ever going to replace this person, 694 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,735 but it's time to... I don't think you ever can replace somebody... 695 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,855 No, but you find someone to share your life with, I suppose. ..ever. 696 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,535 But it's jolly nice to have a really good friend who laughs a lot too. 697 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,015 Ancl I've got David, my chap, who is about four miles away. 698 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,455 David Mills. Correct. He's not an actor? 699 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,295 No. He built and runs the British Wildlife Centre and we used 700 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,975 to drive past David's, I'd say to Finch and Sammy, 701 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,855 "That man in there has got otters." 702 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,855 I adore otters. 703 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,015 And... He'd rescued the otters'? 704 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,135 No, he has them as part of his centre. 705 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,895 Right. 706 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,815 Every British mammal and bird. 707 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,935 I didn't, I didn't... Sorry, there we go. Sorry. 708 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,815 There we go. Done. 709 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,135 What was that? It was a fly. 710 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,375 It was quite good, wasn't it? I got it. 711 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,455 Not for the fly. 712 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,895 Sorry. 713 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,415 Are you keen on flies? 714 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,855 Well, you know, it's just having a casual... It was, no longer. 715 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,975 So, shall we talk about your plans professionally? 716 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,135 You've said that we don't retire, I think, 717 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,575 meaning actors and actresses in general, though I suppose some do. 718 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,255 If you're lucky. 719 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,615 If you're lucky, you don't retire. 720 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,855 I don't want to. Yes, I don't want to retire. 721 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,775 I'm not doing anything much at the moment because I can't see. 722 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,255 Well, we should talk about that probably. Macular degeneration. 723 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,975 Same as my mother. 724 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,855 And how bad is it? 725 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,575 Bad. 726 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,055 Bad enough. 727 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,415 Bad enough in that you're quite fuzzy. Right now? 728 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,455 Sorry you're so fuzzy. 729 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,095 Yes. I'm sorry I'm fuzzy. 730 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,575 Just a tad fuzzy. 731 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,815 You know I'm here, though. I do. 732 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,895 I went to a dinner a few weeks ago. 733 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,535 Rather important dinner. 734 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,655 It was so dark that I said to David, who's next to me, 735 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,295 I said, "Have I anything on my plate?" 736 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,615 He said, "Yes." I said, "Does it need cutting up?" 737 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,375 So he said, "Yes." I said, "Would you, would you do it?" 738 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,095 So he cut it up and handed it, something to me on a fork. 739 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,455 Ancl that's the way I ate it. 740 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,855 I don't know if I finished it. 741 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,775 I don't know what I did. 742 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,415 I probably scooped it all up and over the side of the plate 743 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,055 for all I know, it was so dark. 744 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,975 Can you be on stage? I suppose if you look... As long as I know 745 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,735 there aren't things to fall over. 746 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,895 If it's very well planned. 747 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,935 I've got to teach myself a new way of learning 748 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,295 because I have a photographic memory. 749 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:45,095 So a person saying to me, "This is your line," and I can do that, 750 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,815 and I have many people who will help me. 751 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:53,575 Nevertheless, I realise that I need to know 752 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,695 where it is on the page. 753 00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:57,735 I'll teach myself a way. 754 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,895 I know I will, as long as I don't trip overdoing it. 755 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,495 Look at this. 756 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,735 Quite something, isn't it? 757 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,015 It's heaven. I love it. 758 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,575 I love it. 759 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,215 At the Gielgud Theatre in London's West End, judi was performing 760 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:29,815 I Remember It Well, 761 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,015 a show of reminiscences and anecdotes with her friend, 762 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,135 the writer and broadcaster Gyles Brandreth. 763 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,015 Here we are again. Here we are again. 764 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,295 But with something new, different and fresh. 765 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,855 Are you staying for some of the show? Of course, all of it. 766 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,335 I'm looking forward to it. It's an amazing experience. 767 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,375 You will feel the love. 768 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,775 I'm sure. It will just amaze you. They love her. 769 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,055 It's, it's magic. 770 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,135 We're in the presence of an angel. 771 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,215 Aren't we lucky? 772 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,535 Judi has spoken often of her love of live audiences. 773 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,575 Ladies and gentlemen, it's Dame judiDench. 774 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,415 APPLAUSE AND CHEERING 775 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,095 As the show got under way before a full house of theatre-goers, 776 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,095 her pleasure at being on stage was clear. 777 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,255 This young man beside me said, "You get shot." 778 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,415 So I said, "OK." 779 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,055 Ancl it went bang. I went, "Oh. Oh." 780 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,815 Ancl he said, "In the arm." Oh! 781 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:45,335 So they took me and they bound up my ankle and I do the whole play 782 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,175 with the stick and everything. 783 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,695 Well, at the end, huge applause. 784 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:51,135 Huge applause. 785 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,695 "Thank you very much. Thank you." Ancl then suddenly in my ear comes, 786 00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:56,375 "Get off the stage, you limping bitch." 787 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,735 A complete performer, loved and giving love in the live setting 788 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,895 of her professional home. 789 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,695 Like to the lark at break of clay, arising. 790 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:13,575 From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven's gate. 791 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,535 For thy sweet love remembered such wealth brings 792 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,215 That then I scorn to change my state with kings. 793 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,815 Something that I feel almost bad bringing this up, 794 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,975 not really, though, 795 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,815 something that always comes up in interviews with you is the fact 796 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,855 that you're viewed as a national treasure. Shut up, Louis. 797 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,295 That's the reaction I was expecting and maybe even hoping for. 798 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,215 Why do you not like to be called it? 799 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,535 Because it's such a dusty thing. 800 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,895 It's, you know, national treasure. It's, oh... 801 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,935 You think of some old cabinet with a dirty old glass front 802 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,015 and you think, oh, look in there. 803 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,815 Oh, oh, look. 804 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,175 I don't think I think of, of a dusty old thing. 805 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,655 A national treasure, to me, means someone who's been unimpeachably 806 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,735 at the top of their craft for many, many years, to the point where... 807 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,535 In some people's eyes. ...their bona fides are impeccable. 808 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,335 And you think, I mean, David Attenborough. 809 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,855 David Attenborough, now that, now you're talking. 810 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,535 And Damejudi Dench, I'll put forward. 811 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,975 No. 812 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,735 No, I10, I10, n0, no, no, no. 813 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,095 No. 814 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,255 No, no, no, no, no? No. 815 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,575 Are you called a national treasure? 816 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,655 Erm, not very often. 817 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,295 But you have been. How's that? 818 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,135 How did you feel about that, Louis? 819 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,815 I feel it's... It's a, erm. 820 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,895 I actually, honestly, there's a part of me that feels flattered by it. 821 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,015 And there's another part of me that feels it's sort of a pat 822 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,215 on the head and now you can go out to pasture, I suppose. 823 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,255 But it is nice. Don't let's go out to pasture yet. 824 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,535 Eh? 825 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,055 What was that? 826 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,615 That's pasture. Oh. 827 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,055 There, you are clone, out to pasture. 828 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,535 No. 829 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,135 Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I sense 830 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,495 about you is that you are conscious of wanting to move forward. 831 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,135 The work isn't done yet. 832 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,415 I do hope so. 833 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,495 Would you still do Shakespeare? 834 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,775 Shakespeare? 835 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,095 Mm. Oh, yeah. 836 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,655 What part would you like to do? 837 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,615 Anything that's offered me. 838 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,615 Drunken Porter? Yeah. 839 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,975 "Who's there, in the name of Beelzebub?" 840 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,455 Yes, play it like the parrot. 841 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,375 What do they say at the end of Midsummer Night's Dream? 842 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,135 Something about... They say, erm... 843 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,775 They say our revels... No, that's Tempest. 844 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,935 Our revels now are ended. 845 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,135 I didn't think they ate Revels in those days. 846 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,135 You're a Philistine. 847 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,255 There we go. I got a joke. 848 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,815 Our revels now are ended. 849 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,135 It's time for a glass. It is, isn't it? Yeah. 850 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,495 Sweetie. 851 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,295 How's tricks? 852 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,615 Her expression is quite hard to read. 853 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,895 Well, yes. She says that about you. 854 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,855 I can't believe we didn't get onto the subject of the film Cats. 855 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,575 Louis. 856 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,615 Yes. 857 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,495 Out. Leave the champagne. HE GIGGLES 858 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,815 I actually found it... 859 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,695 You can leave the champagne here. 860 00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:40,135 Out! 861 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,375 I don't think you've seen that one, have you? 862 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,695 Out!