1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,295 He's here, I think. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,535 He's on wheels. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,215 That's insane! 4 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:12,895 It's like something out of the Thunderbirds. 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,255 This program me contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting. 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,095 LOUIS CHUCKLES 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,615 How are you, Louis? How you doing? 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,055 I love this. 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,935 Welcome to north Wales! 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,975 I've got a hand here if you need a hand. 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,695 There you go, look at you. Like a pro, like a pro. 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,055 Are we ready? Yeah. 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,775 Hold on to your trousers, here we go! 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,095 On an amphibious vehicle off the coast of north west Wales, 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,295 I was en route to Bear Grylls' private island. 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,775 Ancl that's it, you've arrived on the islands. 17 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,415 The adventurer and TV presenter 18 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,215 had invited me to spend time with him, 19 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,215 getting to know the man behind the globe-trotting, 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,015 wilderness-surviving myth. 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,495 Are we standing? No, we're sitting. OK. I love it! 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,215 Just lie down. This is awesome! 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,895 Yeah, it's so much fun. This is so good! If this isn't au naturel... 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,975 Welcome to my world. 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,455 So, did you finish Never Give Up? Of course! 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,455 You're so kind. Oh, yeah, that reminds me, where are my copies of...? 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,655 I want to have that, cos... I'm so touched you read it. 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,135 I read the shit out of them, if you'll pardon my French. 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,655 Down there. "I read the shit..." 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,935 BEAR LAUGHS I'm so over prepared, it's... 31 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:46,095 "I'm so over prepared!" I'm serious. 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,535 BEAR LAUGHS 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,895 Tell me when we're ready. 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,255 GULL CRIES 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,135 GULLS CRY 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,775 So it's a little bit of a climb, but it's good. 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,055 I was reading you do half an hour of cardio, 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,535 running around... What - running around the island? 39 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,695 Well, I'll show you...|'ll show you where I go. 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,975 So the run up and down the hill is deceptively hard, 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,295 because it goes on quite a long time, but, er... 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,295 I have my pull-up bar down here. 43 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,055 OK. Be careful. Watch yourself coming across. Watch your steps. 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,735 Is there a pull-up bar there? Here you go, there's the pull-up bar. 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,975 Oh, jeez! You actually would do pull-ups on there? 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,535 Yeah. How do you get down there? 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,455 Well, I sort of scamper down...scamper down this bit. 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,215 I mean, it's nice when it's a clay like this, 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,695 it's when it's, er...it's when it's slippery and wet 50 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,215 and pouring with rain. But, yeah, this is a pull-up bar. 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,535 I'll come and help you. 52 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,135 Oh, jeez! You fall down there and you're brown bread. 53 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,215 How often do you get on the pull-up? 54 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,215 Every clay. Do you? Every clay. 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,895 Yeah. I clone it this morning. Every day? 56 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:02,335 I have the words ringing in my ear of a Foreign Legion Sergeant who used to go, 57 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,335 "A man who can't lift his own body weight is dead weight!" 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,255 Ancl I've always remembered that... What accent were you just doing? 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,055 Well, he was an American in the Foreign Legion. "A man who can't..." 60 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,015 He was an angry American. 61 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,775 How many do you do? 25, I can do. 62 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,015 You'd do well in prison. Yeah. Yeah, thank you. 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,415 That's what they do all day in prison. Yeah. Yeah. I mean... 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,695 Hopefully it never happens. Yeah. 65 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,655 OK, let's bring you back across here, without you... 66 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,375 without the rock collapsing. 67 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,695 Bear Grylls is TV's international survival superstar. 68 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,655 Take your T-shirt, and then just pee on it. 69 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,095 Try to capture as much of that fluid as you can. 70 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,055 With a multitude of successful death-defying formats... 71 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,895 Arghg 72 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,495 ...where he sometimes takes celebrities and statesmen 73 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,895 out into the extreme wild. 74 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,135 Why wouldn't the bear finish this? Well, because... 75 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,015 This looks like a nice-looking piece of fish. 76 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,295 And often eats disgusting food. Eurgh! 77 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,375 He is a global mega brand, 78 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,335 with businesses and endorsements that play off his rugged TV persona. 79 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,695 Mask the smell of fear. 80 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,095 Survival's all about keeping your cool. 81 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,455 But Bear's also had the odd stumble and moment of controversy. 82 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,575 BEAR EXHALES 83 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,775 At his private island, where he relaxes for a few weeks a year 84 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,335 with his wife Shara and three boys, 85 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,055 I was hoping to reveal all. 86 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,535 The start of your journey, you had, um... you'd climbed Everest, 87 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,455 one of the youngest people ever to do so, 88 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,695 you'd been in the SAS reservists, 89 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,655 and I think you were kind of gliding into a life of being 90 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,815 a writer adventurer who would sometimes give talks. 91 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:55,015 You'd written a book or two, right? 92 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,415 And the TV thing slightly blindsided you. 93 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,295 A TV producer approached me out of the blue and said, 94 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,935 "What about we do a show where we drop you in difficult places 95 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,455 "and you show us how to get out of there?" 96 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,375 Ancl I was kind of nervous of doing that. 97 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,695 Ancl I think it was really confidence. 98 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,815 I kept saying, I'm not a TV presenter. I'm not...|'m not... 99 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:18,935 I'm not so articulate like that. 100 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,255 Ancl the more I said that, he kept going, 101 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:24,055 "We don't want that. We just want to follow what you do. 102 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,455 "We'll drop you in these places." 103 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,375 Then eventually, Shara goes, 104 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,135 "Well, why don't you try and give it a go? It might be fun." 105 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:35,935 And, er...we went to the Rockies and filmed our first-ever show, 106 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,775 and, you know, it never really felt like TV. 107 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,695 We just...gunned it and went. 108 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,215 You know, climbing cliffs and jumping into the rapids 109 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,855 and doing all the fun stuff. 110 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,575 I mean, I remember there was a lot of danger in the early clays. 111 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,175 There were so many narrow escapes. 112 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,375 You know, bitten by snakes, caught in rapids, 113 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,575 parachute failures, avalanches, you name it. 114 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,975 In your book, you say there were 21 times, you think, 115 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,655 maybe in the early days, when you narrowly escaped death. 116 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,935 Yeah. And there was... It would happen... 117 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,855 It was starting to happen all too regularly. 118 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,415 You know, the shows, we got to push the boundaries and it's got to be bigger and better. 119 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,775 And, you know, I've got three young boys, who were... 120 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,575 The boys were super young at this stage. 121 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,535 Ancl it's like, I wasn't... You know, "Why am I doing this?" 122 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,975 So I've got my inner voice going, 123 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,735 "Don't. Be smart. 124 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,295 "Make your own decision on this. Make your own calls." 125 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,055 Ancl then I've got this sort of winning format of a show. 126 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,055 And that was a tension. 127 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,175 I remember first seeing your programmes. I really loved them. 128 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,935 They were kind of like low-key... 129 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,015 I don't know if comedy's the right word, 130 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,375 but there's a sort of level of humour in seeing you suffer 131 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,215 and doing things that were somewhat illustrative of survival, 132 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,495 but were also just enjoyable as TV. 133 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,895 Ancl a little sort of...a little kind of gratuitous and crazy. 134 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,015 Ancl at the time, it was new. 135 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,055 When I grew up, the only survival stuff on TV 136 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,095 was always quite kind of bland. 137 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,295 The thing is, textbook survival is quite boring. 138 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,415 Textbook survival said, "Don't take any risks, 139 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,175 "stay put, wait for rescue". 140 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,055 That is a correct thing to do in an emergency. 141 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,895 It's good that we could put that message out. 142 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,615 We could put that message out now. 143 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,535 There you go! Stay put, don't take risks, wait for rescue. 144 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,055 But what happens if nobody's coming to look for you 145 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,855 and all you've got is a broken knife and one boot? 146 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,415 Ancl that was kind of the new style of shows. 147 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,775 It's not textbook, but it just might save your life. 148 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,575 Ancl drink your pee, or not? 149 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,375 Certain circumstances maybe. 150 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,135 What are the scenarios where drinking your pee is appropriate? 151 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,015 Well, only if you're really well hydrated 152 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,855 and you've got limited resources of water. 153 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,135 So if you're super dehydrated and you're peeing brown pee, 154 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,015 drinking that is not going to help you. 155 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,055 It's all quite tenuous. It's the same with jellyfish stings. 156 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,815 You don't pee on jellyfish stings...? 157 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:48,055 Well, there's more and more research that comes out that says actually, that's not very good advice. 158 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,735 The one, um...the other one I want to quickly mention, 159 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,495 because I read about it in your book, 160 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,215 was you're out in somewhere in the Australian outback 161 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,935 and you have an Aboriginal guide 162 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,975 who says that he once heard someone say in folklore 163 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,735 that Aboriginal women would kill snakes by biting their heads off. 164 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,255 Number one, be very suspicious of local folklore. 165 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,375 He hadn't even said he'd done it, he'd never seen it. 166 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,855 He'd heard that maybe someone once did it hundreds of years ago... 167 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,295 Yeah, but of course... And you're like, "Good enough...!" 168 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,095 Yes, but I'm with the crew and everyone's going, "Be that'd be epic!" 169 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,375 Ancl like, you get carried away, and before you know it, 170 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,495 you've got a snake in your hand and you're thinking, 171 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,975 "Hold on, this is suddenly less fun". 172 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,055 Suddenly, is this a good idea? But, um... 173 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,975 But I remember putting that snake's head in, 174 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,975 and then you just hope when you clamp down, it's not going to open his mouth 175 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,335 and try and strike at the back of your throat. 176 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,015 Anyway, I did it. Actually, it worked amazingly, 177 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,175 and snapped the snake's neck instantly. 178 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,975 I took it out and we had it for dinner. 179 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,775 Whoa! Good-sized one! 180 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,175 Be very careful doing this 181 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,135 so you don't get bitten yourself in the process. 182 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,415 Ancl the way to do is quickly in and out, and the neck's broken. 183 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,015 Bear's fast and loose survival style won him legions of fans. 184 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,695 Turning him into a household name and TV fixture. 185 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,855 Stop talking and open your mouth. Oh! 186 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,015 AUDIENCE LAUGH 187 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,535 But there were also a few critics of his treatment of animals. 188 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:26,855 I'm going to jump. But before I do, I want to check the water's deep enough. 189 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,935 And of his teaching of techniques 190 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,175 that some fellow survival experts declared reckless. 191 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,055 No hesitation, we just go for it. 192 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,455 In 2007, newspapers reported that his shows 193 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,615 had been economical with the truth 194 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,455 in order to heighten the drama. 195 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,295 I'm going to show you how to survive the hard way. 196 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,695 All I'm taking with me is a water bottle, 197 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,775 a cup and a flint for making fire. 198 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,135 I was curious about his attitude to all the controversy. 199 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,455 You talk a little bit about feeling bruised by criticisms. 200 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,735 Obviously, there was a high-profile set of articles alleging fakery. 201 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,455 It was definitely sort of hurtful when, you know, there was one summer 202 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,815 when there was a whole bunch of negative articles. 203 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,175 Ancl it was the first time I'd really been in the newspapers, 204 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,655 and it was all pretty nasty. 205 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:16,975 Ancl I was like, "Oh, I knew this was a bad idea 206 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,575 "doing a public kind of job". 207 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,775 Ancl I was also kind of defensive, I felt, for the crew. 208 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,975 My first reaction was, "I want to take these journalists out 209 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,055 "and get them to trog round the jungles and the swamps 210 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,055 "and the deserts with us and see it". 211 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,415 But, you know, it's fine. 212 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,855 It's going to come with the territory a little bit. 213 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,535 They were saying, "Oh, he says he's going to stay here overnight, 214 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:39,295 "but actually, he stays in a hotel". 215 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,055 Or, "He says these are wild animals, 216 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,215 "but maybe they're not as wild as he says". 217 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,695 I mean, it's like the premise of the program me really, was, 218 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,335 "Oh, am I going to get out of here alive?" 219 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,975 But you're not going to starve to death 220 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,375 because you've got a team around you. Yeah. And that's... 221 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,695 And we... You know, and at the time, what they then did 222 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,455 was added a disclaimer at the front going, you know, 223 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,935 "Survival situations are presented to Bear", 224 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,775 you know, "to show you what you would..." 225 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,695 So it was sort of even clearer that this isn't like, you know, 226 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,975 one man on his own, you know, unlikely to make it out, 227 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,175 but let's see if he can, you know. 228 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,095 This is, we're making a survival entertainment show. 229 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,175 Ancl at the time, it was...it was hard. 230 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,135 In fact, one of our boys, the other clay, found some YouTube clip 231 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,095 and, er...and it's of me going across some volcano 232 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,775 and super dangerous, and I'm going, 233 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,615 "You've got to be super careful on this". 234 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,615 Really careful crossing these, 235 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,975 just cos you don't know what's solid and what's hollow underneath. 236 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,935 And then, somebody's obviously gone back and found this exact place in the middle of this volcano. 237 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,935 It's a rift, and then it turns out the rift ends, 238 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,215 and there's just like...you could just walk across. 239 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,375 Yeah. So our boys were going, "Look at this one!" 240 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,895 Ancl you can see in the distance, and cars going along. 241 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,655 I've seen that, it's on TikTok. 242 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:54,015 Ancl I think my response to the boys was, 243 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,575 "They built that road last year". THEY LAUGH 244 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,775 And, you know, there are a ton of things like that. 245 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,375 Some is unfair, some is justifiable. 246 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,015 You know, some I look back and made mistakes. But do you know what? 247 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,855 You got to just try and keep doing your job as well as you can, 248 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,695 and where you've made mistakes, own it, and... 249 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,895 and just, you know... 250 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,175 That's kind of it, I think, isn't it? 251 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,335 Your taste for the extreme, right, clearly, there's a part of me 252 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,775 that wants to psychoanalyse that and figure out, 253 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,535 what is it in him that craves that? 254 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:26,735 You know, that term "adrenaline junkie". 255 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,095 I mean, have you ever stopped to think about 256 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,335 what part of you craves that sort of a rush? 257 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,215 Yeah. That's a sort of primal part that, 258 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,855 I kind of...| know I'm OK in those moments. 259 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,335 Ancl I struggle with so many other things in life, 260 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,375 but I know that when we're in that jungle 261 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,015 and the rain's coming down, it's all going wrong, 262 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,575 you know, I kind of thrive in those moments. 263 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,975 Ancl there's a little part of me that kind of keeps pulling me back to those. 264 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,655 Also, that I've learnt over the years how to deal with fear. 265 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:56,775 Ancl I know that to keep that edge, 266 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,255 I've got to keep doing the difficult stuff. 267 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,855 It's not that I kind of want the adrenaline, 268 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,655 I don't want to decay, you know. 269 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:06,775 Nothing in nature stands still. It's either decaying or getting stronger. 270 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,975 Ancl I kind of... I approach life like that. 271 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,655 It's why I keep training, it's why I keep trying to do the difficult things, 272 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:17,935 to keep that inner muscle kind of pumping and going strong. 273 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,775 Ancl it's the only real way I know how to do it, I think. 274 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,935 So this is where we train. 275 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,895 Can I try and do this? Yeah, go for it. 276 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,215 Oh. I'm holding it the wrong way round, I think. You're doing great. 277 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,015 Oh, that's not going to happen, is it? 278 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,615 BEAR CHUCKLES 279 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,975 Oh! Hang on! 280 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,815 LOUIS STRAINS That's a lot. 281 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,015 LOUIS STRAINS 282 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,775 No, that was a joke. I wasn't... 283 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,695 No, that's not going to happen. 284 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,415 Maybe it is. No, maybe it isn't. 285 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,655 BEAR LAUGHS Maybe it... 286 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:54,295 Maybe it is. Go on, go on! No, maybe it isn't. 287 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,895 Never give up! Never give up! 288 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,095 Never give...! OK. 289 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,895 Oh, look at him - man mountain! Man mountain. There he goes. 290 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,535 Good strength. Shall I drop it? 291 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:05,695 Yeah, forward. Forward? Yeah, here we go. 292 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,135 There you go. Well clone. 293 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,055 Oh'. We“ done. BEAR CHUCKLES 294 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,175 Oh! That was a hell of a workout. 295 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,575 That's going to take a few days... Something went. 296 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:15,895 Something went. 297 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,855 GULLS CRY 298 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,015 I read last night you're quite a cook. 299 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,935 I would describe it as enthusiastic. Yeah. 300 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,015 But I love cooking, like, 301 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,295 massive, you know, things of steak and liver. 302 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,215 And, er...with honey and a whole bunch of eggs. 303 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,255 You can't be having that every night. 304 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,615 Steak every night, yeah. Really? Twice a clay, yeah. 305 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,695 But I don't have a lot of vegetables, a lot of fruit. What?! 306 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,015 Vegetables... Veggies?! Well, listen, I always think if you're in nature, 307 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,575 if you're a broccoli growing in the ground, 308 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,015 how do you defend yourself? 309 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,855 You haven't got claws... Right. 310 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,775 You know? You have all these things that don't want you to eat it. 311 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,575 Defence chemicals. 312 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,935 I think you may have just made your statement 313 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:02,215 that's going to get you cancel led, Bean 314 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,935 Bear in mind, I was also vegan for a long time. Were you? 315 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,895 I wrote a book on how I thought it was great, 316 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,815 but my health really tanked. Did it? 317 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:15,175 And, um...and I certainly couldn't do 25 pull-ups. Huh! 318 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,935 Most orthodox nutritionists would advocate 319 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,655 eating five vegetables a day. 320 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,775 I listen to that and I question it. 321 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,935 LOUIS LAUGHS 322 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,735 One word... Hmm. 323 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,175 ...lentils. 324 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,055 Terrible. Terrible for you. 325 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,895 I used to have... I used to break wind all the time. 326 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,655 I haven't broken wind in years now. Yeah. 327 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,255 You say that like breaking wind's a bad thing. 328 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,455 I don't think breaking wind is a great thing, no. 329 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,815 I think it's a sign your gut's not very happy. Really? 330 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,655 If you're farting all clay, I don't think that's a happy place for your gut. 331 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,095 This is the office. NPU. Here we go. 332 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,015 NPU, right. Sit here. 333 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,735 About the only place on the island that has cell reception... 334 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,575 ls here? Yeah. And I have... 335 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,535 Ancl then the clogs can sit with me. 336 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,095 So, do you...? What do you...? 337 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,055 You make a couple of calls and be, like...? 338 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,575 Yeah, I do my calls, do my emails, do my stuff. 339 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,455 I've written a ton of books in here. Really? 340 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,895 Yeah. I mean, it's like, you know, what is an office? 341 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,855 An office is in here and in here, really, isn't it, nowadays? 342 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,375 I suppose. So, yeah. And, um... 343 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,495 I suppose. That to remind me to keep going and then, this... 344 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,215 What does that say? My Soul He Does Restore Again. 345 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,175 Which for me, sums up what the island is - a real restoring place. 346 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,255 Is it a biblical quote? 347 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,295 I think so. Isn't it somewhere in there? 348 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,575 Probably. I think so. 349 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,175 Yeah. Bear in mind, this gets a lot of use, 350 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,175 cos it's normally like...rain, wind. Yeah? 351 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,335 Um... And, er...yeah, you know where to find me. 352 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,535 Book an appointment. BEAR CH UCKLES 353 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,335 And that's it - there's not a mansion on the other side of the island, 354 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,535 that's the dwelling, is it, Bear? 355 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,055 That's your dwelling? What are you saying? 356 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,135 I'm saying it's quite... Not small, but 357 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,855 it's winningly down-to-earth. Get out of that, Louis. 358 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,615 It's winningly down-to-earth. What - with the broom? 359 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,375 Mm-hm. Yeah. And the hot tub. And the hot tub. 360 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,095 Yeah, the 200-quid inflatable hot tub, winner! 361 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:12,735 Jesus! Weren't we in some kind of...? 362 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,295 Chickens. Chickens... 363 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,775 We're having a humility contest. That's a paradox. 364 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,055 Yeah, ex...! BEAR LAUGHS 365 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,095 ls there another level below? 366 00:17:22,120 --> 00:17:23,775 No. 367 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,375 That's it? 368 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,255 What are you saying? I'm saying, that's it, that's the house. 369 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,935 What...what does it sound like I'm saying? 370 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,495 My favourite line is going to be... The whole thing is going to be like, 371 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,055 "ls there a hidden mansion somewhere?" 372 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,295 Actually, what happens, once you leave, the whole... 373 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,735 it all opens out... Thunderbirds. Remember that? 374 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,495 Do you want to come and say hello, Shara? 375 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:48,175 MY 'five? 376 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,215 Louis... Hi, Shara. ..Shara. 377 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,655 Hi, Louis, hi. 378 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,615 I'm sorry for invading your island. 379 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,975 That's OK, that's OK. This is the most glamorous part of the island... 380 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,895 Louis. Nice to neet you. Hi. 381 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,055 I'm reading Bear's two autobiographies, 382 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,535 and many of the things that I think you as a family, er... 383 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,095 grapple with or deal with, or they're just part of your lives, are very familiar. 384 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:12,615 Like which bit? Well, so many things, but a big part of it is 385 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,135 me going away a lot. 386 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,015 So that...that sort of tension, 387 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,855 which exists in a lot of relationships. 388 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,055 When he used to come and go a lot when they were younger was quite tricky, 389 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,655 but if he goes away for, like, a few weeks at a time, it's sort of easier. 390 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,055 It's the coming and going which was the hard one. 391 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,975 Ancl I think it's always harder coming back, 392 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,215 you know, because you, as...as 393 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,655 the person who's left behind with the children, you get into your routine, don't you? 394 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,735 Ancl then, they come back and they just mess the whole thing up. Yeah. 395 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,055 I think it's doable. I think over six months, I think, 396 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,015 is really tough, when you hear of people... 397 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,335 You know, I always think, when people go, "Oh, poor you, Shara, he's away so much!" 398 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:47,655 I go, "He's not in the army, he's not, you know, 399 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,375 "he's not going on tour to Afghanistan and those..." 400 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,855 You know? It's his choice, it's our choice. 401 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,975 Ancl he's not going away for months and months on end, so it's OK. 402 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,815 How did you meet, the two of you? 403 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,055 We were staying with a friend in Scotland, a whole group of us, 404 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,215 and he was one of the people there. 405 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,135 Ten boys, ten girls. And he was about to go off to Everest. 406 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,215 Well, it was a terrible time to fall in love. 407 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,415 You know, right before going away for three months. 408 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,815 But then I remember, yeah, you lived in the next street 409 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,855 and we raced each other back from Scotland. 410 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,455 It was about sort of 411 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,175 Got home, had a bath, got into my pyjamas and everything, 412 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,775 and then he turned up at the door that evening and he said, 413 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,415 "Can I take you out for dinner?" I went, 414 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,215 "Oh, gosh, you're so sweet, but I'm not... 415 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,095 "Just give me a minute. I'm not dressed." 416 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:31,255 Ancl he went, "No, no, no. just put a coat over you!" 417 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,935 Ancl then got to the restaurant, and then they took my coat off, 418 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,775 and I remember I was wearing white pyjamas 419 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,495 and I was a bit sort of self-conscious. 420 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,895 I Went, "Oh, OK. Um..." 421 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,255 I thought, "She's a keeper!" 422 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,255 She's gone out for a first date in her pyjamas. 423 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,935 You know, you can't hide true beauty. 424 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,775 That was a great moment. 425 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,255 What did you see in Bear that you liked? 426 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,895 Um... 427 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,135 he...he just had a really great sense of fun. 428 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,775 He was quite mysterious, which I thought was quite attractive. 429 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,655 He was quite evasive. When I asked questions, 430 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,535 he sort of wouldn't really answer me properly, 431 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,215 which I found quite intriguing. 432 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,095 You know, life wasn't going to be boring, so there was always 433 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:09,975 going to be something to do and something to be, you know, 434 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,295 to have fun and... Positive, can-do... Yeah, completely. 435 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,015 I mean, slightly tunnel vision, which can be quite exhausting, 436 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,295 but... Yeah, just never going to live in a normal place, 437 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,095 you know, just always going to do... Everything's slightly different. 438 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,135 WOW! 439 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,775 Nice! 440 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,175 In Devon, Bear Grylls' annual Gone Wild Festival was under way... 441 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,975 CROWD URGES HIM ON 442 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,255 Go on, lad! Go on! 443 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,895 THEY CHEER 444 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,535 ...a weekend of family friendly activities, music 445 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,935 and heavy weaponry. 446 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,575 Oh, wow! You got a little sight and everything. 447 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,615 Got a range of about 800 metres. 448 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,055 Squeeze, squeeze! Good lad. Can I go? Yeah, lay down. 449 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,735 Are you doing the documentary for Bear Grylls? 450 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,255 Yes, I am, yeah. When is he coming? 451 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,255 Bear Grylls? Yeah. Er... 452 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,135 I think in an hour or so. Why? 453 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,375 I really want to meet him. I love... I love him. 454 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,895 My motto is, "Never give up," just like his. 455 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,415 Is it? Yeah. High five! 456 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,615 Whoa! LAUGHTER 457 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,015 That was loud! Nice! 458 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,335 The highlight of the weekend was an appearance from the man himself 459 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,375 to spread a little stardust. 460 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,895 Thanks so much. Take care. Have fun, guys. 461 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,455 How you doing? Nice to see you. 462 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,175 For me, it was a chance to see Bear in his public-facing role... 463 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,335 OK, we're going this way. 464 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,615 ...amidst a crush of adoring fans. 465 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,095 Sign your T-shirt, buddy. 466 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:54,135 Right... 467 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,975 Thanks so much, everyone! 468 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,015 CHATTER 469 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,535 I've got to stay with Bear. 470 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,855 Right, guys, we're coming through! Will you do my T-shirt? 471 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,535 I came here from India. 472 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,055 Oh, really? He's come all the way from India. 473 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,095 No way! To be at the festival? Yeah. Are you serious? 474 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:15,375 Let's do a photo with him. 475 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,615 Why am I in it? I'm... HE LAUGHS 476 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,775 HUBBUB 477 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,215 For the festival finale, Bear would be appearing on the main stage 478 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,815 to deliver an inspirational message. 479 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,335 This is it. This is it. Big moment. 480 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,975 Can I give you that one? Yeah. Don't lose those. 481 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,535 Would you like any water? Oh, I'd love so, yeah. Would you mind? 482 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,175 Louis, would you like a glass of water? 483 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,135 No, no, I'm fine. Thank you. Thank you. 484 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,855 Do you...? 485 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,935 Are you one of these people who likes going on stage 486 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,895 in front of people? Erm... 487 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,375 It's a love/hate thing. What about you? 488 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,295 Hate it. No, you don't. 489 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,575 I promise you, I really struggle with it. 490 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,975 Which part of it? 491 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,975 Just the... 492 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,055 Even at this sort of thing, I struggle. 493 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,495 I sometimes wish I was an ant and could just watch it all, 494 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,375 just watch it all, cos I love... 495 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,735 This, for me, is heaven - loads of families, kids - 496 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,575 but I struggle with all the... I struggle with the eyes, 497 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,175 you know, kind of everyone looking... On you? Really struggle. 498 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,015 Ancl that's actually got worse over the years. 499 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,135 Why? I don't know. 500 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,815 I think in the early clays, it was like, "Gosh!" 501 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,655 Now I don't... CROWD: We want Bear...! 502 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,855 Anyway, slightly ironic, slightly ironic conversation! 503 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,455 We want Bear! We want Bear! We want Bear... 504 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,255 What's the fear? What do you worry about? 505 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,895 I don't know. I feel... I feel... 506 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,415 If I'm honest, I feel I'm not as good sometimes, 507 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,255 not as brave or strong or great... 508 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,295 Well, you've created a brand. You're a superhero. 509 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,935 And that's what kids want to believe. I'm just being honest. 510 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,935 That's what... But kids don't want to hear that. 511 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,815 You know, this for me takes more courage than any, you know... 512 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,735 Go. CHEERING 513 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,775 Thank you, guys. Wow! 514 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,015 What a... What an amazing, amazing and beautiful sight. 515 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,415 Honestly, for me, it's a privilege to be among you. 516 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,855 CHEERING 517 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:29,655 So, Bear, we've got loads of families here 518 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,375 and kids that look up to you hugely. 519 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,215 What's your message for them as potential adventurers 520 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,895 of the next generation? 521 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,495 LAUGHS: Oh, I... 522 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,975 What, a message for young people? 523 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,815 Gosh, I would say, first of all, life's scary. 524 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,895 You need to be... You're going to need to be brave at times. 525 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,695 Courage is quiet. Courage is facing the difficult stuff. 526 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,015 But number one is courage. 527 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,895 You got to... You've got to find it. It's in here. 528 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,815 Number two, kindness. 529 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,095 It's no good reaching the top of your mountains, 530 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:03,695 becoming the boss, becoming whatever your goals are 531 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,135 if you're not kind to people. 532 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,815 Ancl then finally have that "Never give up" spirit. 533 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,535 You know? It conquers everything. 534 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,135 When you're in those difficult times, going through the storms, 535 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,015 you've got to keep going. Have that "Never give up" spirit. 536 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,815 So, courage, kindness, never give up. 537 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,055 CHEERING 538 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,815 I was struck by Bear's sense of his own shortcomings, 539 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,055 a man of adventure who grappled with the gap between his view of himself 540 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,255 and how he was seen by his admirers. 541 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,535 Thanks, guys! We'll see you at the music later as well. 542 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,495 I'll be around. Take care! CHEERING 543 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:50,775 Bear's taste for the wilderness was something he learned as a child 544 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,335 on expeditions with his dad, a Royal Marine and Conservative MP. 545 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,775 Mum was a secretary and later a homemaker in a family 546 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,175 that was traditional upper crust. 547 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,135 After Eton, he dropped out of university, 548 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,975 deciding he'd rather qualify as a civilian for the SAS. 549 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,255 Then, aged 23, came the successful Everest ascent. 550 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,975 We're already in what they call the death zone, 551 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,575 which doesn't inspire a lot of confidence! 552 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,855 Pray for a safe, yeah, up and down, and then home 553 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,615 and then families and stuff. 554 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,055 Behind it all was a formative early experience. 555 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,415 You were sent away to boarding school aged eight. 556 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,575 It must have been very difficult. 557 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,815 For me, it wasn't a choice 558 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,335 and it was much more a culture of, like, "You left." 559 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:49,015 You don't go home for, you know, however long. 560 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,575 "We'll see you, we'll see you in four weeks' time..." 561 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,895 Because that's just what people did who were of that class? 562 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,135 I don't know. I wasn't involved in the decision. 563 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,615 For me, it was like, "You're going to boarding school." 564 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,055 Ancl I really struggled with it. I struggled being away from home. 565 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,815 Do you remember that moment? Do you remember the day... Yeah, I do. 566 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,615 I remember really well being dropped off, 567 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,855 and I remember seeing my mum and clad bawling their eyes out driving away. 568 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,695 Ancl I remember thinking... 569 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,375 I couldn't figure out what part of nature thinks this is a good idea. 570 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,055 You know, I'm crying, they're crying. 571 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,295 You know, I'm not seeing you for a long time. 572 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,375 It's so young, isn't it? I have a seven-year-old. 573 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,655 I just can't imagine... Yeah. ..sending him off. Yeah. 574 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,895 It was definitely a tricky time for me 575 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,495 and I don't think I dealt with it particularly well. 576 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,455 I think you sort of develop survival sort of mechanisms 577 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,135 to deal with the upset and deal with the fear. 578 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,855 Ancl there were definitely sort of bullies 579 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,295 at some of the schools I went to. 580 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,015 Ancl you know, again, I don't want to over egg... 581 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,775 It wasn't terrible, but it had definite moments. 582 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,495 Ancl I think. looking back, I was too young to be able 583 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,575 to deal with that sort of fear. 584 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,975 Ancl actually, ironically, I remember eventually... 585 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,775 At the end of SAS selection, 586 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,615 you go through this resistance to interrogation phase. 587 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,695 You know, you're there naked, curled up in a blanket, shivering, 588 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,535 and at the end of it, when it's finally finished, 589 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,735 they put you with a psychiatrist and you have a chat, 590 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,735 and he goes, "It's all over. How was it and what are you feeling?" 591 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,615 Ancl I said, "It's weird because I haven't felt 592 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,455 "that sort of feeling of raw fear and vulnerability 593 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,495 "since I went to prep school, age whatever." 594 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,655 Ancl I thought he would sort of laugh or whatever, and he goes, 595 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,615 "Oh, I can't tell you how many times I've heard that from people 596 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,975 "going through this process." 597 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,775 When you say... You said you don't think you dealt with it 598 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,375 particularly well. What do you mean? 599 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,695 Well, I think you internalise a lot of your way of dealing with fear, 600 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,575 and it's why I became quite shy, especially in those years. 601 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,975 I definitely went into myself a lot more and was hiding away. 602 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,775 Ancl you'd see people being bullied 603 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,215 or, you know, if ever the eyes came onto me, it'd be like, 604 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,255 "Oh!" You know, "Hide, go, escape!" 605 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,415 Ancl I think those are survival mechanisms 606 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,775 that you shouldn't have to be learning aged eight or ten. 607 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,695 Ancl I think it's why it took me a long time 608 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,215 to develop the confidence at not always hiding away. 609 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,935 Did you ever talk to your parents about it? 610 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,975 About, like, "Why did you do that?" Or just... 611 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,175 Yeah, I think a little bit. 612 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,535 I mean, my clad then died, you know, when I was pretty young after school 613 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,775 and I never really got the chance to ask him that. 614 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,135 But, you know, the thing is, he was the most lovely clad - 615 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,615 cosy, kind, loving - and same with my mum. 616 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,815 Ancl I think it was... You know, I've got to understand 617 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,175 that was hard for them as well. 618 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,215 Ancl I think genuinely, there's a whole generation of our age 619 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,535 and older and before that just thought that was... 620 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,855 ...that was how you made a man. 621 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,655 I have the sense that you're very close to both your parents, 622 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,015 you had adventures with your dad, 623 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,455 but also that your mum occasionally resented you going off 624 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,895 with your dad. Is that what it was? 625 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,535 When you're young, it's so hard to know what's going on always. 626 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,375 My mum's... You know, she's amazing. 627 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,735 She's a true... She's a character. Yeah. 628 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,375 Ancl I think as she gets older, 629 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,615 I'm sort of gentler with her eccentricities 630 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,375 that growing up were sometimes harder. 631 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,615 It sounds like at times it was really difficult. 632 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,175 Yeah, she's quite unusual, my mum. She's a strong flavour. 633 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,575 Ancl she had some, definitely some, you know, 634 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,375 mental health issues going on. 635 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,255 But I think Dad shielded us a little bit maybe from that. Shielded you. 636 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,175 I think he definitely shielded my sister and me a bit from, you know, 637 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,495 some of my mum's more unusual sort of episodes. 638 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,335 There were quite a few eccentricities 639 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,415 and most of them super harmless and wonderful. 640 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,135 I'm nervous of saying too much about that, 641 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,255 because I think also as my mum's got older, 642 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,495 she's softened so much. 643 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,055 She's been an amazing mother. 644 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,735 You know, she really has. 645 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,255 Did she take you to see self... American motivational speakers? 646 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,015 Well, those I'm always grateful for. 647 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,735 Who was it? Those times weren't her eccentricity. 648 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,855 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, she would take us... 649 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,055 That was part of her brilliance and her genius 650 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:09,535 is at age 15, 16, she'd take us to motivational conventions. 651 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,255 "You can do it. You've got it inside." 652 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,375 Who would it be? Tony Robbins? Yeah. Yeah, I did. 653 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,615 So we've really got Tony Robbins to thank for Bear Grylls? 654 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,055 But we went to a whole bunch of them and they were... 655 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,415 I was always like this. Any other ones? You know. 656 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,495 Zig Ziglar. Zig Ziglar. 657 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,815 Zig Ziglar, who was... I look back on now, who was a legend. 658 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,455 He was, like, a business guru, was he? 659 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,775 He was all about, 660 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,255 "Whatever the mind of man can conceive and believe, 661 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,775 "it can achieve," or something like that, you know. Right. 662 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,775 Ancl I was like, wow, you know, and it was... Was he also... 663 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,615 IMITATING ZIG ZIGLAR: "Beware of stinking thinking." 664 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,975 Stinking thinking. Yeah, exactly. 665 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,815 Ancl I always say that still to this clay to my family, you know. 666 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,735 It's like I don't call it an alarm clock, 667 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,575 I call it an opportunity clock, 668 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,455 you know, and it's a family joke. 669 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,655 But I don't want to be woken up alarmed. 670 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,135 Right. You know, I want an opportunity. 671 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,655 I'm always... You know, and a lot of those old phrases 672 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,295 that I have for me go back to those clays. 673 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,295 But my education was all about learn the verbs, learn Latin, 674 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,615 do your maths, learn, and I wasn't very good at that. 675 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,935 Ancl suddenly at 15 to be told that the real life skills 676 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,055 are about building great teams, pick the path less trodden, 677 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,615 never give up, be kind along the way, 678 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,815 face your fears, 679 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,015 it was like, that I can get an A in, 680 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,015 because I can, you know, go for this. Yeah. 681 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,335 Ancl so I really have my mum to thank for those sort of times. 682 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,575 You know, she's dealt with the fact that she's had to be on her own 683 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,695 for the last 20 years without, you know, my clad as well and... 684 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,695 How did your dad die? 685 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,455 Out of the blue one clay. 686 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,935 You know, he had a pacemaker fitted, 687 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,255 because they needed to fit a pacemaker, 688 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,415 and I remember going down for the operation 689 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,335 and I saw him come round and I said, 690 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,535 "It's all great, Dad, and well clone you," you know. 691 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,455 "Smashed it. It's going to be great." 692 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,055 He was discharged and he woke up the next morning, 693 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,255 sat up in bed and my mum was there just bringing in something to eat 694 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,495 and he just went... 695 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,535 Done, done, and never, nevenmever woke up. 696 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,415 I look back and there's so many things I wish I'd said to him 697 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,615 of, like, what a wonderful clad he'd been for so many years. 698 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:18,095 And, you know, I wish I had said thank you more. 699 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,295 Erm... 700 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,055 You know, but I do believe, you know, 701 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,895 I believe I feel his presence still to this clay. 702 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,495 You seem to speak more openly now about faith. 703 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,655 I'm less nervous to be able to tell the truth, 704 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,415 you know, of what...of things that have helped me in my life. 705 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,895 Ancl I'm not particularly churchy, 706 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,815 I'm not very religious like that, 707 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:51,015 but my Christian faith is...it's in here and... 708 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,735 Do you literally start the day on your knees... I do, I do. 709 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,935 ...next to the bed with a prayer? I try to, yeah. 710 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,415 I find it starts the clay 711 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,575 reminding me of my place in the world 712 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,815 and say thank you and say sorry for things I've messed up 713 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,495 and ask for a bit of strength for the clay ahead, job clone, 714 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,895 and then stand up and do my exercises. 715 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,415 Ancl those are two anchors in my life. 716 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,415 INDISTINCT CHATTER 717 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,655 THEY SCREAM 718 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,895 In South London, 719 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,655 Bear was making a flying visit to a local scout troop. 720 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,255 Bear is the chief scout for the whole of the UK, 721 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,815 a role he's very proud of. 722 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,055 They're going to be so excited. What's the routine? 723 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,815 You go in there and razzle-dazzle them? 724 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,055 Well, I'm not sure there's much razzle-dazzle! 725 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,015 Hi, guys. Hi. 726 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,295 Have you ever clone crate stacking, Louis? No. 727 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,175 Oh, jeez. It's already quite wobbly. 728 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,895 OK, Louis, you need to focus on the crates, not the rope. 729 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,375 Oh, God. Oh, God. God help me. 730 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,455 What's happening? 731 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,895 Louis, just think, you could be, like, in America 732 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,615 with some crazy Ku Klux Klan people having a great time. Yeah. 733 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,295 Yeah, I know. 734 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,495 I'd be more relaxed. 735 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,815 Go on, Louis. Go on. Come on, Louis. Come on! 736 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,095 Come on, last one. 737 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,695 CHEERING Oh, oh! 738 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,695 APPLAUSE 739 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,655 After proving my scout metal, 740 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,095 I got a chance to see Bear among his young proteges. 741 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,775 I think you all know who Bear is. 742 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,375 How many of you have seen him on TV? 743 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,735 Yeah. I used to watch him religiously. Yeah. All the time. 744 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,455 So sweet. 745 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,215 I think you ate a placenta one time with a celebrity. 746 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,815 I saw that on YouTube. I saw it on YouTube. 747 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,055 Let's just get this right, 748 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,175 I didn't eat a celebrity's placenta. 749 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,975 LAUGHTER 750 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,815 And how did it taste, the placenta? 751 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,135 Once you'd cooked it, it was probably all right, wasn't it? 752 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,695 Do you know, it's all a blur. 753 00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:04,135 A sort of blur of bad, sort of, you know... 754 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,815 I've learned basically if you try and cook anything 755 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,815 and burn it over a fire long enough, 756 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,095 it will taste basically like a badly cooked scout sausage. 757 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,615 I remember you slept in a camel. 758 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,855 Well, that was an interesting one. 759 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,855 I remember sleeping there and the head of the camel 760 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,335 was, like, here. 761 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,335 Ancl because I was on quite strong antimalarial drugs at the time, 762 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,135 one of the side effects is it gives you pretty wacky dreams. 763 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,615 Ancl I remember waking in the night thinking the camel's come alive 764 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,215 and the whiskers were, like, sort of brushing my cheek 765 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:36,455 and I was hallucinating all sorts of weird thing. 766 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,655 But it worked and we survived the night, so, yeah. 767 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,095 Live to fight another clay. 768 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,855 SHOUTING 769 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,855 One more shift, Frankie. Let's go. 770 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,935 Knees. Kick away. Let's go. 771 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,535 Across town, Bear was making a second stop-off 772 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,855 in his role as an honorary colonel in the Royal Marines. 773 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,255 Are you getting through it? Yeah. Yeah, it's going well, sir. 774 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,215 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well clone. Yeah. Oh, good job. 775 00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:57,495 Well, stick with it. 776 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,895 Bear's love of the military is well-known. 777 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,615 MAN SHOUTS COMMANDS 778 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,775 There you go. Welcome to the Royal Marines, Louis. 779 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,135 You don't need to be here. 780 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,615 Do you? I mean, in terms of... you've got a busy schedule. 781 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,935 Why is it important to you to be here? Well, I-I love it. 782 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,535 It's the same with the Scouts, 783 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,855 it's that sense of amazing, incredible, unsung heroes who give 784 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,335 so much, who are so dedicated. 785 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,015 I mean, there are a few families in the world that really 786 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,295 have my heart, 787 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,855 and the Royal Marines, I think, is truly unique. 788 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,935 Every clay, every session I spend with them, you know, and it's only 789 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,735 every now and again, it's, you know, once a month maybe. 790 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,215 But it's a real, genuine privilege and something I love 791 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,095 and I never take for granted. 792 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,895 Amidst the discipline and tradition I reflected 793 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,455 on the old-fashioned virtues Bear seemed to embody, 794 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,255 and how they sat alongside Bear's more human qualities. 795 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,175 The question I was going to ask, what's the key 796 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,775 to understanding Bear? That would have been an embarrassing... 797 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,455 Here we go. He's off. He doesn't like hearing himself talked about. 798 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,735 Have you noticed? 799 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,455 QUITE CHUCKLING He's gone. 800 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,375 Did I embarrass him? 801 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,615 No, he's just, he's, you know, he's not making it up - 802 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,095 he is humble and he doesn't like the spotlight, you know? 803 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,855 Come and have a quick look at this. 804 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,935 It's a good way to finish your visit here. 805 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,495 Here we go. 806 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,215 So that's the Commando spirit - courage, determination 807 00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:33,015 and the unselfishness. So, simple old values. 808 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,575 But you know what? Yeah. 809 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,975 Young guys come from regular backgrounds, diverse backgrounds 810 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,735 all over the world, and they come and they get unified 811 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,855 by this kind of sense of Commando spirit. 812 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,255 One place I'd love to show you is the cliffs at the other end. 813 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,535 I would love it. 814 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,255 OK, we're going this way. 815 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,255 Why are we going this way? Because it's fun. 816 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,015 It's just... We NEVER go this way. 817 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,855 OK. Watch yourself. 818 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,775 Isn't that lovely? 819 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,455 Is this safe for me to do this? 820 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,935 Yeah. 821 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,935 Wow. 822 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,015 Yeah, that's something else. 823 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,415 So, could you just go down and... if you were to just have, 824 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,095 like a beach day on the island, would you do it down there? 825 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,055 I'd go off from the jetty. 826 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,655 Very nice. 827 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,295 OK. OK. We're going this way. 828 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,975 So this is our cliff jump on the island, Louis. 829 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,815 Would you jump that? Yeah, I have jumped. 830 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,215 And how was it? 831 00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:39,255 I wouldn't do this again. I've clone it once. 832 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,975 Took me a week to recover. Really? 833 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,535 Yeah. Well, we're not doing that today. You've got to be careful. 834 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,655 You've got to be careful. 835 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,495 Anyway, another good, fun place on the island. 836 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:55,295 Louis sits down for an interview, he goes, "I'm just so well prepared. 837 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,095 "I'm so over-researched." 838 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,535 I said, "I've read the shit out of your books." 839 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,375 There's a lot of books. 840 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,135 I thought it was a bit cheeky. He says 841 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,815 he's written 90 books, and some of them were colouring books. 842 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,975 Just because you got a photo...! 843 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,095 I'm calling a colouring book a book! 844 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,775 Can't we get the numbers up a bit? What about the colouring books? 845 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,895 The sticker books? Put those in there! 846 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,015 Well, they are IN there! Yeah, exactly. 847 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,015 Guilty as charged, in that case. 848 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,735 You're huge, like not just in the UK and America, but you've got 849 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,535 this almost unique quality among Western presenters 850 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,535 that you've managed to create a brand that goes 851 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,535 across India and China. 852 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,055 How important is it to you to build the business and to kind of create 853 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,415 a...um, well, to make a lot of money apart from anything else? 854 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,575 I think money's never been the number-one motivator, 855 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,095 but it's easy to say that once you kind of have earned a bit. 856 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,215 In the early clays, it WAS a big motivator. 857 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:55,975 I thought, you know, when we did that first show, it's like, 858 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,495 this is great, I've earned more from doing that than, you know, touring 859 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,335 around the Women's Institutes doing those early talks. 860 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,255 But, you know, I'm not a flash car sort of person. 861 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,415 You know. You're a parachute guy, 862 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,895 apparently. I spent a lot of money on parachutes! Boats and parachutes. 863 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,215 Parachutes and paragliders and outboard engines. 864 00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:15,335 But, you know what? There could be worse things. 865 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,135 Is your main business making TV or...? TV earns the most, you know, 866 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,815 but money, fame, glory, that's never going to satisfy. 867 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:22,935 It's never enough for people. 868 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,535 I see it all the time chatting to these stars, you know, 869 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,535 and they know it often as well. 870 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,295 But it's a hole that can never be filled, 871 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,495 and therefore, don't chase that stuff. 872 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,135 Do what you really love. Follow what you really love. 873 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,095 And it might work out and you might end up successful, 874 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,495 you might end up famous, you might end up rich. You might not. 875 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,055 It doesn't matter. Those things are the dressings. I don't know 876 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,815 if people are ready to hear that from multimillionaire Bear Grylls. 877 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,415 Well, that's a fair point. It sounds a little bit hollow. 878 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,975 It's a fair point. 879 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,655 With a global mega brand. 880 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,575 Yeah, it's a fair point. But the thing is, it is the truth 881 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,975 and it is what I've learnt from it. 882 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,895 But, you know, I think for me, though, the focus is, especially 883 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,695 with a young family, it's like go and do the work, do the main thing, 884 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:07,775 keep the main thing the main thing. Do the programmes, take these people 885 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,135 into the wild. But otherwise, I'm really happy. 886 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,815 I'm at my happiest when I'm with the family together, hanging out. 887 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,575 You know, before you guys arrived, I ran down the hill with Huckleberry, 888 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,895 dived in the sea, you know... 889 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,335 HAPPY, happy place. 890 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,095 That's someone delivering the groceries. 891 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,335 Amazon delivery. Pizza. 892 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,495 Can you sign for the package? 893 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,655 Oh, my knee! 894 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,375 Louis's clone. No, no. His leg's long gone. 895 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,855 So, Louis, before we leave. 896 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,455 Yeah. Big swim. 897 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,655 I mean, it's end of clay. 898 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,495 Yeah. Little cold wind in the air, but... 899 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,975 Yeah. And the sea is looking a bit more Welsh compared 900 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,455 to when you arrived. 901 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,335 Guys, you're looking at the Scout crate-stacking champ. 902 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,735 Are you ready? 903 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,935 Here we go. 904 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,535 Three... Three... Two... ..two, one. Here we go. 905 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,055 Woo! 906 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,095 Woo! 907 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:17,175 Where is he?! Woo! 908 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,615 Cheers. Stay safe. Never give up. 909 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,815 Stay safe. Never give up. I got it! 910 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,615 Live a life of adventure. 911 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,095 Dream big. 912 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,855 If you dream it, you can achieve it.