1 00:00:02,043 --> 00:00:03,923 This programme contains some strong language 2 00:00:03,923 --> 00:00:05,923 This is your dad's pub? This is my dad's pub, yeah. 3 00:00:05,923 --> 00:00:07,803 You want to do it? You do it, you do? 4 00:00:07,803 --> 00:00:08,923 No, you do it. 5 00:00:08,923 --> 00:00:11,123 You show, you do it properly. 6 00:00:11,123 --> 00:00:12,163 Yes. 7 00:00:13,563 --> 00:00:15,363 You just... There you go. 8 00:00:15,363 --> 00:00:17,843 Give it the right position and that's it. 9 00:00:17,843 --> 00:00:19,003 I love it. 10 00:00:19,003 --> 00:00:20,523 Maybe it's a bit bigger head, but... 11 00:00:20,523 --> 00:00:21,923 It's OK, it's yummy. 12 00:00:21,923 --> 00:00:23,283 Yeah. 13 00:00:23,283 --> 00:00:25,163 So I'm going to see if I can beat that. 14 00:00:25,163 --> 00:00:26,683 Go on, then. Head wise. 15 00:00:26,683 --> 00:00:28,443 It's not looking so good. 16 00:00:28,443 --> 00:00:29,683 Oh! 17 00:00:29,683 --> 00:00:31,643 I didn't do very well. 18 00:00:31,643 --> 00:00:33,923 Go ahead, Rita. Well, at least I made you look good. 19 00:00:33,923 --> 00:00:35,323 It's not bad. 20 00:00:35,323 --> 00:00:37,243 You're next. 21 00:00:37,243 --> 00:00:39,003 It might be... 22 00:00:39,003 --> 00:00:41,323 I was lucky because there was... That's the worst one yet. 23 00:00:41,323 --> 00:00:43,963 ..too much gas! 24 00:00:43,963 --> 00:00:45,363 Guys, look at this! 25 00:00:47,723 --> 00:00:50,083 That's money back territory. 26 00:00:50,083 --> 00:00:51,763 Look at that. 27 00:00:51,763 --> 00:00:54,403 Mine actually looks OK next to that one. 28 00:00:59,443 --> 00:01:02,203 Have you performed here over the years? Yes. 29 00:01:02,203 --> 00:01:04,243 When you were very young? I started in here, yes. 30 00:01:04,243 --> 00:01:06,163 They have live music. It's so fun. Do they? 31 00:01:06,163 --> 00:01:08,523 Yeah, you should come and hang out. Be careful what you wish for. 32 00:01:08,523 --> 00:01:09,603 Surrounded by cameras. 33 00:01:09,603 --> 00:01:11,803 I might be down here, propping up the bar. Oh, yeah? 34 00:01:11,803 --> 00:01:13,563 You should. It would be good for business. 35 00:01:13,563 --> 00:01:14,763 It's so fun. 36 00:01:14,763 --> 00:01:18,163 I was with the global pop star and celebrity, Rita Ora. 37 00:01:19,363 --> 00:01:21,843 I'll just stay here and think of some good questions. 38 00:01:21,843 --> 00:01:25,203 OK, I'm coming up, Shall we just use one of these? 39 00:01:25,203 --> 00:01:28,963 She'd agreed to spend several days with me at home and on the road 40 00:01:28,963 --> 00:01:33,003 to set the record straight about her life and work. 41 00:01:33,003 --> 00:01:34,443 Can't take me anywhere. 42 00:01:34,443 --> 00:01:36,163 All right, I'm ready, I'm sorry. 43 00:01:36,163 --> 00:01:37,963 I love seeing you with a j-cloth in your hand. 44 00:01:37,963 --> 00:01:39,203 It's so lovely. 45 00:01:39,203 --> 00:01:40,563 Yeah, isn't it nice? 46 00:01:40,563 --> 00:01:42,523 "She's just like you and me." "Just like us." 47 00:01:42,523 --> 00:01:43,963 But with a private jet. 48 00:01:43,963 --> 00:01:46,163 No, that's not true. 49 00:02:01,563 --> 00:02:04,083 Tirana, the capital of Albania. 50 00:02:07,603 --> 00:02:09,243 Hi. Hi. 51 00:02:09,243 --> 00:02:10,843 Welcome. Yeah, thanks. 52 00:02:10,843 --> 00:02:12,843 It's a bit mental. It's amazing. 53 00:02:12,843 --> 00:02:14,923 The energy out there is... 54 00:02:14,923 --> 00:02:16,283 It's something else. 55 00:02:16,283 --> 00:02:19,323 Rita had been invited to give a concert not far from where 56 00:02:19,323 --> 00:02:22,763 she'd been born 31 years earlier in neighbouring Kosovo. 57 00:02:22,763 --> 00:02:24,483 There's a lot of buzz out there. 58 00:02:24,483 --> 00:02:27,243 It's like the Beatles are here, right? 59 00:02:27,243 --> 00:02:29,723 Yeah, I feel like that. Exciting, we're going to... 60 00:02:29,723 --> 00:02:32,043 Thank you. I mean, that's a huge compliment. 61 00:02:32,043 --> 00:02:35,283 The show would be free to the public as part of Tirana's role 62 00:02:35,283 --> 00:02:38,083 as a European youth capital. 63 00:02:38,083 --> 00:02:41,243 So right now, we're just waiting for the press conference to start. 64 00:02:41,243 --> 00:02:44,483 Yeah. Which is, I have to say, I'm very nervous about it. 65 00:02:44,483 --> 00:02:45,683 Oh, are you? 66 00:02:45,683 --> 00:02:48,723 You'd think I'd have this down to a T by now, wouldn't you? 67 00:02:48,723 --> 00:02:51,323 Look at this. You just don't realise it. 68 00:02:51,323 --> 00:02:53,243 For reals? For reals. 69 00:02:53,243 --> 00:02:54,563 Even I still get it. 70 00:02:54,563 --> 00:02:56,003 See, we're all human. 71 00:02:56,003 --> 00:02:57,803 They're just here to love you. 72 00:02:57,803 --> 00:02:59,603 I don't know. Do want to come out with me? 73 00:02:59,603 --> 00:03:02,603 I'll be on the side there. You can speak better than I can. 74 00:03:02,603 --> 00:03:04,883 Not in Albanian! 75 00:03:06,403 --> 00:03:09,083 This is the mayor of, yes, of Albania.. 76 00:03:09,083 --> 00:03:10,283 Hi! 77 00:03:10,283 --> 00:03:11,763 Miremengjesi. Miremengjesi. 78 00:03:11,763 --> 00:03:13,643 Hey, good to see you. I'm Louis, nice to meet you. 79 00:03:13,643 --> 00:03:14,963 Yeah, yeah. 80 00:03:14,963 --> 00:03:16,283 This is the British ambassador. 81 00:03:16,283 --> 00:03:18,803 Welcome. Lovely to see you here, at last. 82 00:03:18,803 --> 00:03:20,723 I know, I'm very excited. Thank you. 83 00:03:20,723 --> 00:03:22,483 I'm Louis, nice to meet you. How do you do? 84 00:03:22,483 --> 00:03:23,723 Nice to meet you. 85 00:03:25,163 --> 00:03:28,323 I just want to first say that it's a privilege to be here again, 86 00:03:28,323 --> 00:03:30,323 to perform. 87 00:03:30,323 --> 00:03:33,763 And I really hope you can all come and join me to celebrate 88 00:03:33,763 --> 00:03:37,363 the beautiful country and to have a good time. 89 00:03:37,363 --> 00:03:39,043 So thank you very much. 90 00:03:47,803 --> 00:03:50,523 Rita is both an international artist 91 00:03:50,523 --> 00:03:52,843 and an all-round entertainment brand, 92 00:03:56,043 --> 00:03:59,003 the face of glossy ad campaigns... 93 00:03:59,003 --> 00:04:05,163 I'm going to be making one of my faves using my very own tequila. 94 00:04:05,163 --> 00:04:08,563 ..with 13 top ten hits, modelling contracts 95 00:04:08,563 --> 00:04:10,763 and TV talent show roles. 96 00:04:10,763 --> 00:04:12,603 A true superstar. 97 00:04:13,643 --> 00:04:17,283 But along with success and acclaim has come 98 00:04:17,283 --> 00:04:20,083 a public profile and tabloid attention that hasn't 99 00:04:20,083 --> 00:04:21,603 always been friendly. 100 00:04:26,203 --> 00:04:28,763 Sorry, I just have to take some pictures for my Instagram. 101 00:04:28,763 --> 00:04:32,003 Please, be my guest. OK. 102 00:04:32,003 --> 00:04:35,283 I was hoping our time together would be a chance to see the real 103 00:04:35,283 --> 00:04:37,523 person behind the media portrayal. 104 00:04:38,963 --> 00:04:41,003 That shirt's so intriguing. 105 00:04:41,003 --> 00:04:42,403 It's fashion, Louis. 106 00:04:42,403 --> 00:04:44,123 It looks like you might have it on wrong. 107 00:04:44,123 --> 00:04:45,163 It's fashion, Louis. 108 00:04:47,363 --> 00:04:48,763 Smouldering. 109 00:04:50,643 --> 00:04:52,323 Smoking. 110 00:04:52,323 --> 00:04:55,163 Got 'em? Yes. OK. 111 00:04:55,163 --> 00:04:56,363 OK, done at last. 112 00:04:56,363 --> 00:04:57,683 How did that feel? 113 00:04:58,763 --> 00:05:00,723 It's part of the job, Louis. 114 00:05:00,723 --> 00:05:03,603 This is so interesting. Can we not talk about my shirt? 115 00:05:03,603 --> 00:05:06,563 Mine's so boring, my arms go through the sleeves! 116 00:05:08,563 --> 00:05:10,563 Come on, let's go see the stage. 117 00:05:17,803 --> 00:05:21,203 I'm just promoting my tequila at the same time. 118 00:05:23,403 --> 00:05:25,363 She's always come to all my shows. 119 00:05:25,363 --> 00:05:27,003 Oh, I love that. 120 00:05:27,003 --> 00:05:29,083 What is the vibe like being back here? 121 00:05:29,083 --> 00:05:31,363 Does it feel like a homecoming of sorts? 122 00:05:31,363 --> 00:05:32,923 Yeah, it is really nice 123 00:05:32,923 --> 00:05:35,963 because everyone's just like, hey, hi! 124 00:05:35,963 --> 00:05:37,403 Just like one of us. 125 00:05:39,043 --> 00:05:43,163 Rita's concert would be taking place in the city's main square. 126 00:05:47,363 --> 00:05:49,123 After two years of lockdown, 127 00:05:49,123 --> 00:05:51,443 this was one of a handful of large-scale events 128 00:05:51,443 --> 00:05:52,883 she was performing. 129 00:05:59,203 --> 00:06:01,523 With an audience that would be in the thousands, 130 00:06:01,523 --> 00:06:04,163 the pressure was on to deliver. 131 00:06:04,163 --> 00:06:05,683 What have we got there, Rita? 132 00:06:05,683 --> 00:06:07,083 An Albanian flag. 133 00:06:07,083 --> 00:06:08,563 Very cool. 134 00:06:08,563 --> 00:06:09,923 Very cool. 135 00:06:09,923 --> 00:06:13,083 Will you wave it or just wear it? I'll wear it. You'll see. OK. 136 00:06:13,083 --> 00:06:15,443 I guess this is the first time we're going to see how it works 137 00:06:15,443 --> 00:06:16,883 because it might not work. 138 00:06:16,883 --> 00:06:18,883 Have you done this before? No. Cool. 139 00:06:20,563 --> 00:06:22,963 Hopefully it's going to be a great turnout. 140 00:06:22,963 --> 00:06:24,443 I always get so nervous. 141 00:06:24,443 --> 00:06:25,843 Ah! 142 00:06:49,043 --> 00:06:51,323 OK, people, five minutes to show. 143 00:06:53,083 --> 00:06:55,803 This is no time to hit the bong. 144 00:06:55,803 --> 00:06:57,563 This is the worst part. Is it? 145 00:06:57,563 --> 00:06:59,363 Waiting to go on. 146 00:06:59,363 --> 00:07:01,283 I hate waiting to go on. 147 00:07:01,283 --> 00:07:03,603 It's the part that makes me vomit. 148 00:07:09,163 --> 00:07:10,843 Looking good. Let's go! 149 00:07:30,563 --> 00:07:34,123 Rita! Rita! Rita! 150 00:07:35,243 --> 00:07:37,243 Are you ready? 151 00:07:37,243 --> 00:07:40,163 # Let me take you where you'll never go 152 00:07:40,163 --> 00:07:42,323 # Have a little fun 153 00:07:42,323 --> 00:07:44,083 # It's the only way we know 154 00:07:44,083 --> 00:07:47,563 # Let me show you what you never see 155 00:07:47,563 --> 00:07:51,403 # You know how to love, you know how to love 156 00:07:51,403 --> 00:07:53,083 # You know how to love...# 157 00:07:53,083 --> 00:07:54,923 Here we go! 158 00:07:54,923 --> 00:07:59,443 Rita's show was an unabashed all-singing, all-dancing spectacle. 159 00:07:59,443 --> 00:08:02,803 # You know that I would never let you down 160 00:08:02,803 --> 00:08:05,683 # I would never...# 161 00:08:05,683 --> 00:08:09,163 Her set - a tribute to ten years of chart success... 162 00:08:09,163 --> 00:08:11,123 # I will never let you down. # 163 00:08:15,603 --> 00:08:20,483 ..and an acknowledgement of a city which sees her as one of its own. 164 00:08:35,123 --> 00:08:38,523 Back in London, in the neighbourhood of Kilburn, not far from where 165 00:08:38,523 --> 00:08:41,603 she grew up, Rita sat down to talk about her journey 166 00:08:41,603 --> 00:08:43,643 in and out of the spotlight. 167 00:08:44,763 --> 00:08:49,043 So you've got, I think 16 million followers on Instagram? Yeah. 168 00:08:49,043 --> 00:08:52,443 So that's not as much compared to some people that have a huge 169 00:08:52,443 --> 00:08:54,443 social media kind of presence. 170 00:08:54,443 --> 00:08:58,203 How many top tens have you had in the UK? 13. 171 00:08:58,203 --> 00:09:00,203 Which is, I think, a record. 172 00:09:00,203 --> 00:09:03,163 Most top tens from a British female solo artist 173 00:09:03,163 --> 00:09:07,043 to come out of the UK in history. 174 00:09:07,043 --> 00:09:11,163 # Ah. # 175 00:09:11,163 --> 00:09:13,123 That's cool, huh? That's amazing. 176 00:09:13,123 --> 00:09:15,083 I'm really, really excited about that. 177 00:09:15,083 --> 00:09:18,163 So you beat Petula Clark and... Shirley Bassey. 178 00:09:18,163 --> 00:09:20,163 # Goldfinger...# 179 00:09:20,163 --> 00:09:22,723 And also, you performed at the Oscars? I did. 180 00:09:22,723 --> 00:09:24,043 Wow, that was amazing. 181 00:09:24,043 --> 00:09:26,203 And Mother Teresa's canonization? Yes. 182 00:09:26,203 --> 00:09:27,883 Come on! Come on! 183 00:09:27,883 --> 00:09:29,283 Famous Albanian. 184 00:09:29,283 --> 00:09:31,123 Also, let's name more credits. 185 00:09:31,123 --> 00:09:33,803 You performed for Barack Obama? I did. 186 00:09:33,803 --> 00:09:36,603 Oh, with Dwayne Johnson when I was excited. 187 00:09:36,603 --> 00:09:38,203 Dwayne the Rock Johnson. The Rock. 188 00:09:38,203 --> 00:09:40,283 When did you work with Prince? 189 00:09:40,283 --> 00:09:41,443 I can't even remember. 190 00:09:41,443 --> 00:09:42,723 It was like, in... 191 00:09:42,723 --> 00:09:45,843 You wrote a song together? Champagne Kisses. 192 00:09:45,843 --> 00:09:47,963 Yeah, never came out. 193 00:09:47,963 --> 00:09:49,483 He passed away. 194 00:09:49,483 --> 00:09:51,083 How did the call come in? 195 00:09:51,083 --> 00:09:53,843 He called me. He was like that. No! 196 00:09:53,843 --> 00:09:56,763 "Hey, it's Prince." 197 00:09:56,763 --> 00:09:59,643 And I went and played ping pong with him. 198 00:09:59,643 --> 00:10:01,883 It was crazy. He's pretty good at ping pong. 199 00:10:01,883 --> 00:10:03,443 Is he? Yeah. 200 00:10:03,443 --> 00:10:05,083 A lot of spin? 201 00:10:05,083 --> 00:10:07,843 Just like a lot going on - the heels, the flares, the ping-pong. 202 00:10:07,843 --> 00:10:09,083 Does that affect his game? 203 00:10:09,083 --> 00:10:11,323 I mean, it really - I think it puts him on game. 204 00:10:11,323 --> 00:10:15,363 Seriously? Was he doing kicks and splits while he was playing? 205 00:10:15,363 --> 00:10:18,323 No, he wasn't! He was - and had a cane that lit up. 206 00:10:18,323 --> 00:10:20,643 We're talking about Prince, not Willy Wonka, right? 207 00:10:20,643 --> 00:10:22,163 Yes, we're talking about Prince. 208 00:10:24,363 --> 00:10:27,843 Should we talk about how you got started, musically? 209 00:10:27,843 --> 00:10:31,403 Well, I went - I didn't go to normal school, I went to theatre school. 210 00:10:31,403 --> 00:10:34,283 I did maths, science, English, Monday to Wednesday, 211 00:10:34,283 --> 00:10:36,723 and then I danced and sang, Thursday-Friday. 212 00:10:36,723 --> 00:10:40,923 And then I was an intern at a recording studio. 213 00:10:40,923 --> 00:10:45,003 And at the time I was so in awe of being in the studio life, 214 00:10:45,003 --> 00:10:49,003 and I volunteered - make tea, clean up, do whatever I needed to do, 215 00:10:49,003 --> 00:10:51,003 sing whenever I could, 216 00:10:51,003 --> 00:10:52,563 and I just wanted to be a star. 217 00:10:52,563 --> 00:10:54,083 I just wanted to be a pop star. 218 00:10:54,083 --> 00:10:59,043 To get to that point, I tried to get a deal. 219 00:10:59,043 --> 00:11:00,523 You'd put out some music, 220 00:11:00,523 --> 00:11:03,163 because you'd featured on a Craig David track 221 00:11:03,163 --> 00:11:05,443 called Awkward, which is actually a pretty good track. 222 00:11:05,443 --> 00:11:07,563 Thanks. I can remember it like it was yesterday. 223 00:11:07,563 --> 00:11:09,443 # I was waiting for your love 224 00:11:09,443 --> 00:11:12,043 # You can only wait so long 225 00:11:14,643 --> 00:11:16,483 # I was hoping and wishing... 226 00:11:16,483 --> 00:11:17,643 I can't remember the rest. 227 00:11:17,643 --> 00:11:19,083 Did you tour with him? Yeah. 228 00:11:19,083 --> 00:11:22,563 This is why I'm saying shout out to Craig - like, he supported me a lot. 229 00:11:22,563 --> 00:11:24,283 I would go on tour with him. 230 00:11:24,283 --> 00:11:29,643 That led me to meet this A&R woman, who put me in touch with Jay Brown, 231 00:11:29,643 --> 00:11:31,523 who was the partner of Jay-Z. 232 00:11:31,523 --> 00:11:33,683 And I sent, like, a demo, 233 00:11:33,683 --> 00:11:35,523 not thinking they were going to look at it. 234 00:11:35,523 --> 00:11:38,683 Do you think there's anyone watching this who doesn't know who Jay-Z is? 235 00:11:38,683 --> 00:11:41,403 If they don't, that's a problem. Worrying. Yeah. 236 00:11:41,403 --> 00:11:42,683 Hip-hop legend. 237 00:11:42,683 --> 00:11:45,803 And they flew you out business class? 238 00:11:45,803 --> 00:11:47,563 No. 239 00:11:47,563 --> 00:11:49,483 Premium economy? No. 240 00:11:49,483 --> 00:11:52,843 Economy. Mm. Because they weren't sure at that point. 241 00:11:52,843 --> 00:11:55,043 They didn't want to spend the big bucks? Yeah. 242 00:11:55,043 --> 00:11:57,123 You'd think they might want to impress you. 243 00:11:57,123 --> 00:12:00,243 No. I think at that point it was like, I mean, 244 00:12:00,243 --> 00:12:01,683 how would I know the difference? 245 00:12:01,683 --> 00:12:03,563 I was like, "I'm going to New York." 246 00:12:03,563 --> 00:12:05,323 And you arrive, and what happens? 247 00:12:05,323 --> 00:12:07,763 I go straight to his club, 40/40. 248 00:12:07,763 --> 00:12:11,683 And so then I get there, and he's sitting right there. 249 00:12:11,683 --> 00:12:13,843 You're hot off the plane. Hot off the plane, tired. 250 00:12:13,843 --> 00:12:16,083 You haven't even changed. No. Exhausted. 251 00:12:16,083 --> 00:12:17,803 He was sitting there, a bit like this... 252 00:12:18,923 --> 00:12:23,963 ..and people were, like, in front of me, and they just parted, 253 00:12:23,963 --> 00:12:25,843 and there he was. 254 00:12:25,843 --> 00:12:28,523 "Yo!" - that's my impression of Jay. 255 00:12:28,523 --> 00:12:29,563 SHE LAUGHS SHRILLY 256 00:12:30,843 --> 00:12:33,083 Quite alarming. It's not how I imagined him sounding. 257 00:12:34,443 --> 00:12:38,123 So then he just looks up, he goes, "What's up, kid?" 258 00:12:38,123 --> 00:12:39,843 Exactly like that. 259 00:12:39,843 --> 00:12:40,963 And I was like... 260 00:12:42,323 --> 00:12:43,923 .."Hi". 261 00:12:43,923 --> 00:12:45,003 "Wah!" 262 00:12:45,003 --> 00:12:46,123 The rest is history. 263 00:12:46,123 --> 00:12:47,923 We went to the Roc the Mic studio. 264 00:12:47,923 --> 00:12:49,883 What did you sing? 265 00:12:49,883 --> 00:12:52,163 Oh, I sang a bit of my demo that I sent them. 266 00:12:52,163 --> 00:12:54,523 And at what point did they say, "Right, you got the goods?" 267 00:12:54,523 --> 00:12:56,283 Straight after. Really? 268 00:12:56,283 --> 00:12:58,723 They were like, "We're signing you." 269 00:12:58,723 --> 00:13:01,363 They signed you to a five album deal. 270 00:13:01,363 --> 00:13:05,483 In hindsight, it turns out that wasn't kind of the ideal 271 00:13:05,483 --> 00:13:07,603 launchpad for you, in certain respects. 272 00:13:07,603 --> 00:13:09,883 I mean, can you - how much can you talk about that? 273 00:13:09,883 --> 00:13:12,363 Well, obviously... I know you're very respectful of Jay-Z. 274 00:13:12,363 --> 00:13:14,603 You won't say anything bad about him. 275 00:13:14,603 --> 00:13:17,323 And at the same time, why wasn't the music coming out? 276 00:13:17,323 --> 00:13:18,723 Let's talk about that. 277 00:13:18,723 --> 00:13:20,043 I don't know. 278 00:13:20,043 --> 00:13:22,963 You know, there was moments - I mean, I was recording for like two, 279 00:13:22,963 --> 00:13:24,323 three years straight. 280 00:13:24,323 --> 00:13:25,843 And then what's coming back? 281 00:13:25,843 --> 00:13:27,363 "Jay-Z doesn't like this?" 282 00:13:27,363 --> 00:13:30,123 It was, you know, there was a whole moment where it was about to happen. 283 00:13:30,123 --> 00:13:33,203 I recorded a music video, and it just didn't come out. 284 00:13:33,203 --> 00:13:34,443 They scrapped it. 285 00:13:34,443 --> 00:13:36,723 And I felt really kind of, like, disappointed. 286 00:13:36,723 --> 00:13:38,883 I felt I let everyone down. 287 00:13:38,883 --> 00:13:41,523 It's been reported that all the music, 288 00:13:41,523 --> 00:13:43,563 the best songs were going to Rihanna first, 289 00:13:43,563 --> 00:13:44,803 who was a stable mate there. 290 00:13:44,803 --> 00:13:48,083 She was also - she was obviously the more established artist, 291 00:13:48,083 --> 00:13:49,123 someone you admire. 292 00:13:49,123 --> 00:13:50,323 Respectfully, of course. 293 00:13:50,323 --> 00:13:52,643 She was getting first refusal on all the music, 294 00:13:52,643 --> 00:13:56,523 and she'd sit on songs that had been written, so that you couldn't... 295 00:13:56,523 --> 00:13:57,643 I don't know about that. 296 00:13:57,643 --> 00:13:59,603 Whether it was so you couldn't, or - either way, 297 00:13:59,603 --> 00:14:02,203 the result was that you weren't getting a look at it, 298 00:14:02,203 --> 00:14:05,203 and that she had a problem with you. 299 00:14:05,203 --> 00:14:09,643 Well, I can't speak for other people, but I think publicly, always 300 00:14:09,643 --> 00:14:11,603 they put women against each other. 301 00:14:11,603 --> 00:14:14,603 But I've been nothing but a fan and respectful of her, 302 00:14:14,603 --> 00:14:16,363 and I always will be. 303 00:14:16,363 --> 00:14:17,803 But I'll tell you what happened. 304 00:14:17,803 --> 00:14:22,483 So then Sarah, who is for me one of the most like ball grabbing, 305 00:14:22,483 --> 00:14:24,963 independent, incredibly inspiring women who really... 306 00:14:24,963 --> 00:14:26,283 Your manager. Yeah. 307 00:14:26,283 --> 00:14:30,803 ..who's really kind of took matters into her own hands. 308 00:14:30,803 --> 00:14:34,363 And we found a song called Hot Right Now with DJ Fresh. 309 00:14:34,363 --> 00:14:39,843 And that was something that we did ourselves, me and her. 310 00:14:39,843 --> 00:14:42,843 And we presented it to the label, 311 00:14:42,843 --> 00:14:46,563 and they were like, "Oh, right, we're not putting money in it. 312 00:14:46,563 --> 00:14:48,043 "It's not going to be our campaign. 313 00:14:48,043 --> 00:14:51,003 "It's, you know, it's Ministry of Sound. They can - go for it." 314 00:14:52,003 --> 00:14:56,003 So I put out Hot Right Now, wanting to prove that, like, hello, 315 00:14:56,003 --> 00:14:58,123 you're sitting on a gold mine or something. 316 00:14:58,123 --> 00:15:00,563 Hot Right Now, which is a great track, 317 00:15:00,563 --> 00:15:04,123 which is the only drum'n'bass song ever to reach number one in the UK. 318 00:15:04,123 --> 00:15:05,763 Yes, history. Up to that point. 319 00:15:05,763 --> 00:15:08,283 And then they come back - "Oh, we better, we better do something 320 00:15:08,283 --> 00:15:10,523 "with this girl who's been on our books for the last..." 321 00:15:10,523 --> 00:15:13,963 That was exactly right. ..two or three years, at that point. 322 00:15:13,963 --> 00:15:15,403 But that's ridiculous. 323 00:15:15,403 --> 00:15:17,523 And now I'm getting annoyed. Thank you. 324 00:15:17,523 --> 00:15:20,523 And then you put your album out, Ora. 325 00:15:20,523 --> 00:15:22,963 It was a number one album in the UK. 326 00:15:22,963 --> 00:15:26,043 Yes, yes. Big up, Ora. Thank you, for everyone. 327 00:15:26,043 --> 00:15:29,043 I don't think they released it in America, did they? No. 328 00:15:29,043 --> 00:15:31,043 Well, I mean, that also seems odd. 329 00:15:31,043 --> 00:15:32,843 Yeah, it was. It was all odd. 330 00:15:32,843 --> 00:15:35,323 What's that about? Help me out. 331 00:15:35,323 --> 00:15:38,363 I don't know. If I had the answers, I would tell you. 332 00:15:38,363 --> 00:15:39,883 I don't have the answers - Sway. 333 00:15:39,883 --> 00:15:42,403 It's Rihanna, isn't it? No. 334 00:15:42,403 --> 00:15:45,403 You don't think it was an active... I just think it was priority... 335 00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:48,083 It was like, "We don't have time for Rita who?" 336 00:15:48,083 --> 00:15:50,323 I have to say one... "Number one in where?" 337 00:15:50,323 --> 00:15:53,083 I - you know, with everything comes like to prove, 338 00:15:53,083 --> 00:15:54,883 you've got to prove your worth. 339 00:15:54,883 --> 00:15:59,363 I just tried my hardest to become a prominent figure. 340 00:15:59,363 --> 00:16:00,643 That's all I wanted to do. 341 00:16:00,643 --> 00:16:05,043 I, like, wanted to be like that successful. 342 00:16:05,043 --> 00:16:08,043 2015, was it, that you brought the lawsuit? 343 00:16:08,043 --> 00:16:09,483 Let me be clear. 344 00:16:09,483 --> 00:16:11,243 It wasn't going up against Jay-Z, 345 00:16:11,243 --> 00:16:14,203 it was going up against Roc Nation, the label. 346 00:16:14,203 --> 00:16:18,003 You had to bring a suit to be released from your deal. 347 00:16:18,003 --> 00:16:19,283 Yeah. So I... 348 00:16:19,283 --> 00:16:21,763 Plus they countersued you, like, that's all stressful. 349 00:16:21,763 --> 00:16:23,163 I mean, it's just a big headache. 350 00:16:23,163 --> 00:16:25,123 It was an amicable separation. 351 00:16:25,123 --> 00:16:26,803 Were you financially worried? 352 00:16:26,803 --> 00:16:28,443 Were you worried about that? Yeah. 353 00:16:28,443 --> 00:16:33,083 There was ways I survived in that time that I was in before 354 00:16:33,083 --> 00:16:35,403 I chose to leave Roc Nation. 355 00:16:35,403 --> 00:16:38,843 I became the face of many different campaigns, 356 00:16:38,843 --> 00:16:40,323 TV, 357 00:16:40,323 --> 00:16:43,723 and I wanted to also take on acting. 358 00:16:43,723 --> 00:16:48,883 I got paid a good amount of money, which kept me sort of, like, afloat. 359 00:16:48,883 --> 00:16:53,003 I'm happy I did that, because I think for me that opened the door 360 00:16:53,003 --> 00:16:54,803 to, like, a lot of things. 361 00:16:54,803 --> 00:16:59,363 But we did all of that ourselves, my sister and Sarah. 362 00:17:02,083 --> 00:17:03,523 Vocal rest time. 363 00:17:03,523 --> 00:17:05,323 Vocal rest. OK, let's have a little rest. 364 00:17:05,323 --> 00:17:06,803 HE INHALES DEEPLY 365 00:17:06,803 --> 00:17:07,843 Yeah. 366 00:17:10,643 --> 00:17:11,883 How are you, Elena? 367 00:17:11,883 --> 00:17:13,483 Did you want to add anything? 368 00:17:13,483 --> 00:17:15,283 Rihanna? I think you guys are doing great. 369 00:17:15,283 --> 00:17:17,003 What's going on with Rihanna? 370 00:17:20,003 --> 00:17:21,283 Elena's your sister. 371 00:17:21,283 --> 00:17:23,443 You're also her manager. Kind of. 372 00:17:23,443 --> 00:17:26,083 All of her management team, let's say. Yeah. 373 00:17:26,083 --> 00:17:30,923 "This is an app I use to talk when I'm having a vocal rest." 374 00:17:34,323 --> 00:17:36,923 "So leave me the fuck alone, Louis." 375 00:17:36,923 --> 00:17:42,003 You've got a slightly different personality on the app. 376 00:17:42,003 --> 00:17:43,923 Combined with the face. 377 00:17:43,923 --> 00:17:45,683 "I'm kidding. I love you." 378 00:17:45,683 --> 00:17:47,043 LAUGHTER 379 00:17:55,403 --> 00:17:56,843 Ta-da! 380 00:17:56,843 --> 00:17:59,723 In Los Angeles, I'd been invited to a video shoot 381 00:17:59,723 --> 00:18:02,523 for a song Rita was featuring on. 382 00:18:02,523 --> 00:18:05,123 This would be her first new music for nearly a year. 383 00:18:05,123 --> 00:18:06,443 I would take my sunglasses off 384 00:18:06,443 --> 00:18:08,483 but I'm not ready yet, and my face doesn't look... 385 00:18:08,483 --> 00:18:10,323 Do you not want to look unmade-up? 386 00:18:10,323 --> 00:18:12,043 I mean, you can see me. 387 00:18:12,043 --> 00:18:13,603 That looks nice. Aargh! 388 00:18:13,603 --> 00:18:15,803 This is Boris, who I did the song with. Netsky. 389 00:18:15,803 --> 00:18:16,883 The DJ and producer? 390 00:18:16,883 --> 00:18:19,323 Yes, that's right. Yeah. How do you do? Nice to meet you. 391 00:18:19,323 --> 00:18:20,443 Nice to meet you too. 392 00:18:20,443 --> 00:18:22,203 Hi! I'm looking forward to hearing it. 393 00:18:22,203 --> 00:18:23,323 Yeah, it's going to be fun. 394 00:18:23,323 --> 00:18:25,523 So remember this face, because you won't recognise me 395 00:18:25,523 --> 00:18:27,083 when I come out of that room. 396 00:18:28,763 --> 00:18:31,083 Dissolve! SHE LAUGHS 397 00:18:31,083 --> 00:18:33,283 I'll be right back, OK? All right. 398 00:18:33,283 --> 00:18:35,483 Oh, oh, oh, oh, take your... One, two... 399 00:18:35,483 --> 00:18:38,083 ..three, four, five, six. And... Yeah! 400 00:18:38,083 --> 00:18:40,083 ..one, two, three, four and five. 401 00:18:41,923 --> 00:18:43,683 APPLAUSE 402 00:18:43,683 --> 00:18:46,483 Oh, beautiful. Looking really good, guys. 403 00:18:46,483 --> 00:18:48,043 Excellent. 404 00:18:48,043 --> 00:18:49,283 Here she is... Hi. 405 00:18:49,283 --> 00:18:51,243 ..looking amazing. Do you still recognise me? 406 00:18:51,243 --> 00:18:52,763 I do. I do. 407 00:18:52,763 --> 00:18:54,763 But you look very glam. 408 00:18:54,763 --> 00:18:55,803 Thank you. 409 00:18:55,803 --> 00:18:57,123 So you'll be in the middle here? 410 00:18:57,123 --> 00:18:59,643 Yeah, this is where you're going to be. Come on, stop. 411 00:18:59,643 --> 00:19:01,483 No, I'm serious. This isn't about me. 412 00:19:01,483 --> 00:19:02,523 They didn't tell you? 413 00:19:02,523 --> 00:19:04,283 What if we all get in position and... Yeah. 414 00:19:04,283 --> 00:19:05,483 Remember what I showed you? 415 00:19:05,483 --> 00:19:06,883 Yeah, I will. Find it inside. 416 00:19:06,883 --> 00:19:08,243 Yes. Right. 417 00:19:08,243 --> 00:19:10,403 He's my emotional support. LAUGHTER 418 00:19:10,403 --> 00:19:12,083 I'm your emotional support animal. 419 00:19:12,083 --> 00:19:14,763 Well, I didn't want to take it that far! 420 00:19:14,763 --> 00:19:16,563 As Rita prepped her moves, 421 00:19:16,563 --> 00:19:19,043 there was a surprise visitor to the set. 422 00:19:19,043 --> 00:19:21,763 How you doing? Yeah, good. Louis. Nice to meet you. 423 00:19:21,763 --> 00:19:23,763 Yeah, nice to meet you. Oh, my God. I'm a big fan. 424 00:19:23,763 --> 00:19:26,323 Rita's boyfriend - the actor, director and 425 00:19:26,323 --> 00:19:28,603 Oscar-winning writer Taika Waititi. 426 00:19:28,603 --> 00:19:30,043 Thanks for coming down. 427 00:19:30,043 --> 00:19:31,963 Yeah. Well, I think you came down to see Rita... 428 00:19:31,963 --> 00:19:34,603 I came down to see Rita, yeah. ..but I'm part of the bonus package. 429 00:19:34,603 --> 00:19:36,283 I see, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 430 00:19:36,283 --> 00:19:37,443 Oh, it's a big bonus. 431 00:19:37,443 --> 00:19:39,043 I see her all the time. Yeah. 432 00:19:39,043 --> 00:19:41,923 I barely ever see you. THEY LAUGH 433 00:19:41,923 --> 00:19:43,443 So tell me about you and Rita. 434 00:19:43,443 --> 00:19:45,083 You've been together about a year? 435 00:19:45,083 --> 00:19:49,723 We've actually known each other for years, before we got together. 436 00:19:49,723 --> 00:19:52,123 Everyone thinks we met in Australia last year, but... 437 00:19:52,123 --> 00:19:53,523 That's what the internet told me. 438 00:19:53,523 --> 00:19:54,563 Yeah. 439 00:19:54,563 --> 00:19:56,363 You know who brought her to my house? 440 00:19:56,363 --> 00:19:58,843 It was Robert Pattinson. The famous actor? 441 00:19:58,843 --> 00:20:01,003 Batman. Batman. 442 00:20:01,003 --> 00:20:03,523 He brought her over. I was having a little barbecue thing, 443 00:20:03,523 --> 00:20:05,603 and he brought her over and we got to chatting 444 00:20:05,603 --> 00:20:06,963 and we just became friends. 445 00:20:06,963 --> 00:20:08,243 We hit it off, became friends. 446 00:20:08,243 --> 00:20:10,763 Then for years, for the next three, three and a half years, 447 00:20:10,763 --> 00:20:12,403 we were just good mates. Yeah. 448 00:20:12,403 --> 00:20:14,923 Yeah, and we were in different relationships, both of us. 449 00:20:14,923 --> 00:20:18,883 And every time we hung out we would just catch up 450 00:20:18,883 --> 00:20:21,483 where we left off, and it was a good friendship. 451 00:20:21,483 --> 00:20:23,963 Yeah. And then we decided to ruin it all. 452 00:20:23,963 --> 00:20:26,363 What is it that works about the relationship? 453 00:20:26,363 --> 00:20:29,323 I just like the fact that we both work hard and we've both got 454 00:20:29,323 --> 00:20:31,963 our own jobs and are independent, but are also best friends. 455 00:20:31,963 --> 00:20:34,163 You know, we come from different parts of the world. 456 00:20:34,163 --> 00:20:36,483 She comes from Kosovo and I'm from New Zealand - 457 00:20:36,483 --> 00:20:39,043 very far away, but the backgrounds are very similar in that 458 00:20:39,043 --> 00:20:41,363 we grew up poor, with working class families. 459 00:20:41,363 --> 00:20:45,163 Her dad owned pubs and she hung out in pubs a lot when she was a kid, 460 00:20:45,163 --> 00:20:49,643 and my mum worked in pubs and, well, my family loved being in pubs 461 00:20:49,643 --> 00:20:51,563 so I was in pubs a lot... LOUIS LAUGHS 462 00:20:51,563 --> 00:20:53,763 ..when I was a kid - in fact, all through my childhood. 463 00:20:53,763 --> 00:20:56,243 And I think just, you know, the background of 464 00:20:56,243 --> 00:20:59,723 the Maori community, it feels just similar to the Kosovan 465 00:20:59,723 --> 00:21:01,123 or Albanian communities. 466 00:21:01,123 --> 00:21:03,643 Like, our sensibilities are quite aligned, I think. Yeah. 467 00:21:03,643 --> 00:21:05,163 # We used to be in love 468 00:21:05,163 --> 00:21:09,083 # And I will not allow for us to go down in fire... # 469 00:21:09,083 --> 00:21:11,923 When you first met Rita, had she seen your movies? 470 00:21:11,923 --> 00:21:13,963 I don't care if she's seen my stuff or not. 471 00:21:13,963 --> 00:21:15,763 My mum's seen all my stuff, 472 00:21:15,763 --> 00:21:18,043 and she loved it. Mm. That's enough. 473 00:21:18,043 --> 00:21:20,203 But if I can just reach one person... 474 00:21:20,203 --> 00:21:22,483 THEY LAUGH 475 00:21:22,483 --> 00:21:24,083 HE KNOCKS Darling? 476 00:21:24,083 --> 00:21:25,123 Yeah? Hi. 477 00:21:25,123 --> 00:21:26,323 Can I bring in some visitors? 478 00:21:26,323 --> 00:21:27,403 Yeah. 479 00:21:27,403 --> 00:21:29,003 Oh, no... How's it going in here? 480 00:21:29,003 --> 00:21:30,363 You two found each other, then. 481 00:21:30,363 --> 00:21:32,283 We've been bro-ing down out there. SHE LAUGHS 482 00:21:32,283 --> 00:21:35,243 Mainly talking about your romance, how you got together. 483 00:21:35,243 --> 00:21:36,763 Well! I couldn't help it. 484 00:21:36,763 --> 00:21:38,643 We haven't spoken about that yet. It's him. 485 00:21:38,643 --> 00:21:40,003 This is his power. His power. 486 00:21:40,003 --> 00:21:43,763 What works about it... He just sort of... ..the foundation of it. 487 00:21:43,763 --> 00:21:46,483 Aw. Erm, the chemistry. Yeah. 488 00:21:46,483 --> 00:21:48,803 The emotional give-and-take. 489 00:21:48,803 --> 00:21:50,523 He's my best friend. 490 00:21:50,523 --> 00:21:52,883 That's what I said. Did you? Shut up. So our stories... 491 00:21:52,883 --> 00:21:54,283 Say you swear. I swear. 492 00:21:54,283 --> 00:21:55,323 No? 493 00:21:55,323 --> 00:21:56,363 Oh... 494 00:21:56,363 --> 00:21:58,163 Eurgh, what was that?! LOUIS LAUGHS 495 00:21:58,163 --> 00:22:00,323 A snap pea. 496 00:22:00,323 --> 00:22:01,443 Were you... 497 00:22:01,443 --> 00:22:04,683 Taika, were you conscious of being pulled more into the spotlight? 498 00:22:04,683 --> 00:22:07,483 Because obviously Rita and her... I don't know about that, Louis! 499 00:22:07,483 --> 00:22:09,763 I think it was probably the other way around. 500 00:22:09,763 --> 00:22:12,643 Don't you think, darling? LAUGHTER 501 00:22:12,643 --> 00:22:14,723 Erm, yeah, I enjoyed hanging out with you, 502 00:22:14,723 --> 00:22:16,923 and then people started taking photos of us. Yeah. 503 00:22:16,923 --> 00:22:18,803 Then for about five minutes, I thought, 504 00:22:18,803 --> 00:22:21,003 "Oh, this is what they talk about." 505 00:22:21,003 --> 00:22:23,603 The thing is you don't come into this industry, 506 00:22:23,603 --> 00:22:26,603 "Oh, would I love to do music?", thinking about that at all. 507 00:22:26,603 --> 00:22:28,923 It's kind of one of those things you have to deal with 508 00:22:28,923 --> 00:22:31,403 once you're in it, so it's not like you go to school for it. 509 00:22:31,403 --> 00:22:34,483 So it's a really hard thing to digest because you're not 510 00:22:34,483 --> 00:22:35,883 trained for it. 511 00:22:35,883 --> 00:22:39,003 You're just trained to sort of, like, go on stage and sing 512 00:22:39,003 --> 00:22:40,323 and make music. 513 00:22:40,323 --> 00:22:44,363 That's probably one of the reasons why I enjoy being in LA 514 00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:47,363 because they kind of leave you more alone, I would say, 515 00:22:47,363 --> 00:22:49,083 than in the UK. Mm-hm. 516 00:22:49,083 --> 00:22:52,603 Maybe it's because it's so normal here to see sort of, like... 517 00:22:52,603 --> 00:22:55,363 Yeah, it's a lot of stars. ..people walking around. 518 00:22:55,363 --> 00:22:57,483 So they're not, like, outside your house, 519 00:22:57,483 --> 00:22:59,723 like they are back at home. 520 00:22:59,723 --> 00:23:02,203 But... Would they be outside your house? 521 00:23:02,203 --> 00:23:04,123 Yeah. In London? 522 00:23:04,123 --> 00:23:06,803 Yeah. Definitely in my old place. 523 00:23:06,803 --> 00:23:10,363 I've moved now and got a bit more security. 524 00:23:10,363 --> 00:23:13,243 This is a heavy question, so feel free not to answer it. 525 00:23:13,243 --> 00:23:14,363 That's all right. OK. 526 00:23:14,363 --> 00:23:17,363 So have you had any issues with stalkers? 527 00:23:17,363 --> 00:23:18,843 Yeah. 528 00:23:18,843 --> 00:23:24,123 There was one incident where there was a person who just arrived 529 00:23:24,123 --> 00:23:28,483 with suitcases outside my house and said that I'd promised them 530 00:23:28,483 --> 00:23:32,563 that I would leave everything and live a life with them 531 00:23:32,563 --> 00:23:33,603 and run away. 532 00:23:33,603 --> 00:23:36,323 And then these pictures of these individuals you have to put around 533 00:23:36,323 --> 00:23:40,403 at all shows, for all the security to kind of be aware of 534 00:23:40,403 --> 00:23:43,363 these specific people, 535 00:23:43,363 --> 00:23:46,523 because you just don't know when they're going to show up. 536 00:23:48,483 --> 00:23:50,843 Bye-bye. Mwah. Thanks for coming. 537 00:23:50,843 --> 00:23:52,683 I squashed your hair a little bit more. 538 00:23:52,683 --> 00:23:55,283 OK. I'll see you guys later. I'll give you your microphone back. 539 00:23:55,283 --> 00:23:57,123 Bye! Thanks, Taika. I really appreciate it. 540 00:23:57,123 --> 00:23:59,403 Just going to go work on my...another hit movie. 541 00:23:59,403 --> 00:24:00,803 LAUGHTER 542 00:24:00,803 --> 00:24:02,523 Just... Just my eighth, um... 543 00:24:02,523 --> 00:24:04,523 Get out of here. Just go away! 544 00:24:04,523 --> 00:24:06,203 ..critically acclaimed film. 545 00:24:06,203 --> 00:24:08,083 Whatever. 546 00:24:08,083 --> 00:24:10,923 They say, "Learn from your mistakes." 547 00:24:10,923 --> 00:24:12,883 I wouldn't know. 548 00:24:12,883 --> 00:24:14,283 Oh, my God! 549 00:24:14,283 --> 00:24:15,723 He even had an exit line. 550 00:24:15,723 --> 00:24:18,643 That's always. That's every day, by the way. 551 00:24:18,643 --> 00:24:19,883 Thank you for having me, Rita. 552 00:24:19,883 --> 00:24:21,323 I'm so happy you came. Yeah, me too. 553 00:24:21,323 --> 00:24:23,963 Thank you for seeing the bit of the inside of this video. 554 00:24:23,963 --> 00:24:25,883 Yeah. Appreciate it. 555 00:24:29,083 --> 00:24:30,843 Hi, Rita. Hi. 556 00:24:30,843 --> 00:24:33,803 Rita's relationship with the tabloids has not 557 00:24:33,803 --> 00:24:35,083 always been easy. 558 00:24:35,083 --> 00:24:36,403 Rita, can I get a picture, love? 559 00:24:36,403 --> 00:24:40,363 In 2020 she was criticised for a birthday party during lockdown, 560 00:24:40,363 --> 00:24:42,883 for which she later apologised. 561 00:24:42,883 --> 00:24:45,043 Over the years there's been extensive coverage 562 00:24:45,043 --> 00:24:46,563 of her love life. 563 00:24:48,923 --> 00:24:53,003 In 2016 she made headlines when one of her Instagram posts led to 564 00:24:53,003 --> 00:24:55,363 speculation that she might be outing herself 565 00:24:55,363 --> 00:24:57,083 as Jay-Z's 'other woman', 566 00:24:57,083 --> 00:24:59,963 written about on Beyonce's Lemonade album. 567 00:25:03,523 --> 00:25:07,403 I was curious how she felt about her press portrayal. 568 00:25:07,403 --> 00:25:08,923 All right. 569 00:25:08,923 --> 00:25:10,483 Just carry on. 570 00:25:10,483 --> 00:25:12,443 One of the things that obviously comes up a lot - 571 00:25:12,443 --> 00:25:15,043 when Beyonce had her album there was a mysterious woman called 572 00:25:15,043 --> 00:25:17,203 "Becky with the good hair," who allegedly Jay-Z had 573 00:25:17,203 --> 00:25:18,923 cheated with her... RITA SCOFFS 574 00:25:18,923 --> 00:25:23,043 Yeah. ..and then at some point in 2016, with Lemonade in the air, 575 00:25:23,043 --> 00:25:26,163 you posted a picture of yourself with lemons on your bra... 576 00:25:26,163 --> 00:25:27,963 Oh, my God. ..and a "J" around your neck. 577 00:25:27,963 --> 00:25:29,323 It literally was a coincidence. 578 00:25:29,323 --> 00:25:31,043 I didn't even think about it, I swear, 579 00:25:31,043 --> 00:25:32,643 and it wasn't a J - it was an R. 580 00:25:32,643 --> 00:25:35,763 They flipped it round and then it looked like a J! 581 00:25:36,843 --> 00:25:40,043 That was in no way designed to sort of... No, it had nothing... 582 00:25:40,043 --> 00:25:43,443 ..intrigue or... No, that was my own design 583 00:25:43,443 --> 00:25:47,163 with an underwear company called Tezenis that I was working with. 584 00:25:47,163 --> 00:25:49,563 This is what I mean, man. A pinch of salt. 585 00:25:49,563 --> 00:25:51,803 You've got to take things with a pinch of salt. 586 00:25:51,803 --> 00:25:53,043 And that's what's insane. 587 00:25:53,043 --> 00:25:56,923 I had to just kind of sit through that until a good friend 588 00:25:56,923 --> 00:26:00,843 of mine, Katy Perry, gave me a hilarious badge 589 00:26:00,843 --> 00:26:02,403 that said, "Not Becky". 590 00:26:02,403 --> 00:26:05,243 It's just I guess what the press do, isn't it? 591 00:26:05,243 --> 00:26:07,603 It's interesting because I feel like, you know, everyone 592 00:26:07,603 --> 00:26:09,803 is very interested in my personal life, 593 00:26:09,803 --> 00:26:15,003 like everything else is not worthy enough, which sometimes is 594 00:26:15,003 --> 00:26:20,403 frustrating because I have also got a lot of credentials 595 00:26:20,403 --> 00:26:23,043 to sustain my, like, respect. 596 00:26:23,043 --> 00:26:28,003 And I feel like when things aren't as "juicy" or, you know, 597 00:26:28,003 --> 00:26:32,243 all my sort of, like, career achievements I'm really proud of 598 00:26:32,243 --> 00:26:36,643 aren't spoken about as much as, like, a bit of gossip or whatever, 599 00:26:36,643 --> 00:26:39,563 it just becomes a little bit annoying. 600 00:26:39,563 --> 00:26:42,803 But I understand why to the people it's, like, interesting, but... 601 00:26:42,803 --> 00:26:46,403 I think where it's relevant is that part of your talent 602 00:26:46,403 --> 00:26:51,163 is aligned with a kind of positive attitude to life, right? 603 00:26:51,163 --> 00:26:54,883 Thank you. Which is also involved with having a colourful love life, 604 00:26:54,883 --> 00:26:56,723 right? And I say that with no judgment. Yeah. 605 00:26:56,723 --> 00:26:59,123 Because you've also made jokes about picking the wrong guy 606 00:26:59,123 --> 00:27:01,523 and a couple of them were total... And wrote songs about it. 607 00:27:01,523 --> 00:27:04,363 Can I say this? A couple of them struck me as complete plonkers. 608 00:27:04,363 --> 00:27:06,723 By the way, I didn't mean that... That doesn't attach... 609 00:27:06,723 --> 00:27:08,323 I hope that didn't attach to you. 610 00:27:08,323 --> 00:27:10,243 It was like I just thought, "Why..." Thanks. 611 00:27:10,243 --> 00:27:11,883 You know, "Why did you go with that guy?" 612 00:27:11,883 --> 00:27:14,963 Maybe, maybe... And that probably says more about me. Maybe. 613 00:27:14,963 --> 00:27:16,243 I love love. 614 00:27:16,243 --> 00:27:17,603 I love being in love. 615 00:27:17,603 --> 00:27:19,523 It's amazing. It's so fun. 616 00:27:19,523 --> 00:27:20,803 Who doesn't? 617 00:27:20,803 --> 00:27:22,963 It's like I live life to the fullest. 618 00:27:22,963 --> 00:27:26,723 I am an extremely passionate person when it comes to love, 619 00:27:26,723 --> 00:27:30,603 but I don't base my life on relationships. 620 00:27:30,603 --> 00:27:33,243 I don't base my, like, moments - 621 00:27:33,243 --> 00:27:36,283 "Oh, I remember this because of that" - off relationships. 622 00:27:36,283 --> 00:27:38,883 That's just an addition to my life. 623 00:27:38,883 --> 00:27:43,603 I've always been very adamant on focusing on me 624 00:27:43,603 --> 00:27:48,323 and my, like, work and what I love to do. 625 00:27:48,323 --> 00:27:54,363 And if somebody brings something to that scenario, then great. 626 00:27:55,803 --> 00:27:59,843 I also feel like all of that is irrelevant because of the place 627 00:27:59,843 --> 00:28:03,803 I'm in now, and it's almost, like, disrespectful to what I have now 628 00:28:03,803 --> 00:28:07,443 to even discuss the past. 629 00:28:07,443 --> 00:28:11,603 What I hear very clearly is that you are really proud 630 00:28:11,603 --> 00:28:15,843 of what you've achieved, and rightly so, but that there's an atmosphere, 631 00:28:15,843 --> 00:28:20,443 or can be when you're in the public eye, an atmosphere of judgment, 632 00:28:20,443 --> 00:28:22,003 or shaming, or criticism. 633 00:28:22,003 --> 00:28:24,763 Is that sort of what... Yeah, but look... ..you're thinking about? 634 00:28:24,763 --> 00:28:26,123 You know, we are women. 635 00:28:26,123 --> 00:28:29,043 Men don't get asked, "Oh, you've had 100 boyfriends?", 636 00:28:29,043 --> 00:28:30,683 or "girlfriends?" 637 00:28:31,883 --> 00:28:35,843 Sometimes they do, but the majority of the time they don't. 638 00:28:35,843 --> 00:28:38,323 You know, it comes with the territory. 639 00:28:38,323 --> 00:28:42,603 I think it's part of the world that you're in. 640 00:28:42,603 --> 00:28:46,443 I just count myself kind of pretty lucky compared to some 641 00:28:46,443 --> 00:28:47,923 stories that have... 642 00:28:49,923 --> 00:28:53,283 ..been really intense for some that aren't even here with us today 643 00:28:53,283 --> 00:28:55,403 for specific reasons like that. 644 00:28:55,403 --> 00:28:57,603 And some of them were my friends. 645 00:28:57,603 --> 00:28:59,803 You know, the press can be really gruelling. 646 00:28:59,803 --> 00:29:02,083 So I think things need to change. 647 00:29:02,083 --> 00:29:05,243 You were close with Caroline Flack, weren't you? Yeah. 648 00:29:05,243 --> 00:29:09,363 And I think it's really disgusting at times, and it's really sad. 649 00:29:09,363 --> 00:29:11,363 I get emotional because it's... 650 00:29:11,363 --> 00:29:14,363 It's hard to relate if you're not... 651 00:29:14,363 --> 00:29:16,003 ..in that position. 652 00:29:16,003 --> 00:29:18,283 You know, no-one is asking people to understand, 653 00:29:18,283 --> 00:29:21,763 "Oh, I'm famous, please, please understand me." 654 00:29:21,763 --> 00:29:25,763 Like, it's very hard to sympathise, but I try not to think about it 655 00:29:25,763 --> 00:29:29,163 too much because it puts me in a sense of stress and anxiety. 656 00:29:42,643 --> 00:29:44,203 How's your energy? 657 00:29:44,203 --> 00:29:45,443 Great. 658 00:29:45,443 --> 00:29:48,083 Here we are, not far from where you grew up. 659 00:29:48,083 --> 00:29:50,523 West London Massive. Ah... Give me one of these. 660 00:29:50,523 --> 00:29:52,283 Here we go. That'll take a minute. 661 00:29:52,283 --> 00:29:53,603 There we go. 662 00:29:53,603 --> 00:29:57,883 Now we're going to get attacked if we go east of Tottenham Court Road. 663 00:29:57,883 --> 00:30:01,963 Your parents had been born - as had you, in fact - in Kosovo. 664 00:30:01,963 --> 00:30:06,643 Mm-hm. And then in... '91, is it, they relocated, they moved? Yeah. 665 00:30:06,643 --> 00:30:09,043 I was one. My sister was three. 666 00:30:09,043 --> 00:30:12,563 You know, and I grew up kind of, you know, in a council estate. 667 00:30:12,563 --> 00:30:15,883 And so drinking in the parks with my mates. 668 00:30:15,883 --> 00:30:19,043 I was definitely... So a wild child? ..a bit of a wild child, 669 00:30:19,043 --> 00:30:20,843 but I wasn't a disrespectful child. 670 00:30:20,843 --> 00:30:22,523 I think there's, like, a fine line. 671 00:30:22,523 --> 00:30:24,923 You have to remember my parents are kind of... 672 00:30:24,923 --> 00:30:27,923 You know, they're traditional. They are Kosovan parents. 673 00:30:27,923 --> 00:30:31,363 They were raised in a specific way - get married, have kids, 674 00:30:31,363 --> 00:30:33,043 go to school. 675 00:30:33,043 --> 00:30:37,243 And so for them it was really important to follow that tradition. 676 00:30:37,243 --> 00:30:40,963 And I was kind of like a... 677 00:30:40,963 --> 00:30:42,883 What's the word - anomaly? Mm-hm. 678 00:30:42,883 --> 00:30:44,843 SHE GASPS I got it right! 679 00:30:44,843 --> 00:30:47,043 One of the things you're quoted as saying is, 680 00:30:47,043 --> 00:30:48,963 "I wish I'd been a better kid." 681 00:30:48,963 --> 00:30:50,643 Did you know that you'd said that? 682 00:30:50,643 --> 00:30:53,363 I probably did say that a long time ago. 683 00:30:53,363 --> 00:30:57,763 It was actually in the context of your mum having cancer... Hmm. 684 00:30:57,763 --> 00:30:59,483 ..from which she recovered. 685 00:30:59,483 --> 00:31:01,643 Thank God. She survived it. 686 00:31:01,643 --> 00:31:06,363 But around that time you were also maybe not your best behaved? 687 00:31:06,363 --> 00:31:10,843 First of all, getting that news as a kid, it's, like, a lot, 688 00:31:10,843 --> 00:31:13,363 because you look at your parents and you think they're always 689 00:31:13,363 --> 00:31:15,723 going to be there. They're, like, superheroes, you know? 690 00:31:15,723 --> 00:31:17,123 They're never going to get ill, 691 00:31:17,123 --> 00:31:19,483 they're always going to be there when you need them. 692 00:31:19,483 --> 00:31:21,683 And then there my mum goes, you know, 693 00:31:21,683 --> 00:31:23,403 "Been diagnosed with breast cancer" - 694 00:31:23,403 --> 00:31:26,283 super young, by the way, you know, late 30s. 695 00:31:26,283 --> 00:31:28,363 And you would've been probably 14? 696 00:31:28,363 --> 00:31:30,723 Yeah, I was, like, 13, 14. 697 00:31:30,723 --> 00:31:35,083 And I would still go to school and I just wouldn't focus. 698 00:31:35,083 --> 00:31:39,523 I felt like I was under a lot of, like... I didn't know what to do. 699 00:31:39,523 --> 00:31:42,323 And so, yeah, I rebelled a little bit, you know? 700 00:31:42,323 --> 00:31:43,483 What would that look like? 701 00:31:43,483 --> 00:31:45,683 Was that just partying, or...? 702 00:31:45,683 --> 00:31:48,523 No, it was, like, pretending to go to school and having a spare 703 00:31:48,523 --> 00:31:51,403 pair of clothes in my bag and not go to school. 704 00:31:51,403 --> 00:31:54,083 Spending my lunch money on, like, a packet of Mayfair. 705 00:31:55,043 --> 00:31:56,523 Ten Mayfair! 706 00:31:56,523 --> 00:31:58,163 Oh, God, those were the days. 707 00:31:58,163 --> 00:32:02,763 And, you know, coming back and smelling like cigs, and my parents 708 00:32:02,763 --> 00:32:04,803 were like, "Why do you smell like cigs?" 709 00:32:04,803 --> 00:32:06,083 And I'm like, "I don't know." 710 00:32:06,083 --> 00:32:08,563 And you were at Sylvia Young at this point? Yeah. 711 00:32:08,563 --> 00:32:11,163 So they're thinking, like, "This is supposed to be your dream." 712 00:32:11,163 --> 00:32:12,843 Like, "You're at a stage school." Yeah. 713 00:32:12,843 --> 00:32:17,563 "You want to be a singer and a star. Why aren't you taking it seriously?" 714 00:32:17,563 --> 00:32:19,523 You know, it's true. 715 00:32:19,523 --> 00:32:21,723 I was a kid. I mean, what can I say? 716 00:32:21,723 --> 00:32:26,443 It was moments where I felt like I didn't realise... 717 00:32:26,443 --> 00:32:28,923 I didn't know what to do if my par... If my mum was not 718 00:32:28,923 --> 00:32:30,083 going to be around. 719 00:32:30,083 --> 00:32:32,323 You know, all those thoughts were going on in my head. 720 00:32:32,323 --> 00:32:34,443 I think that's something you carry a little bit of, 721 00:32:34,443 --> 00:32:37,283 or at least at some time in the past maybe you carried 722 00:32:37,283 --> 00:32:38,883 a little bit of guilt about. 723 00:32:38,883 --> 00:32:40,403 No, I do. 724 00:32:40,403 --> 00:32:43,563 At the same time, my parents would keep all the stress 725 00:32:43,563 --> 00:32:45,323 away from us. 726 00:32:45,323 --> 00:32:47,803 They didn't put the cancer on us. 727 00:32:47,803 --> 00:32:50,203 They didn't really bring... 728 00:32:50,203 --> 00:32:52,363 ..money issues to us. 729 00:32:52,363 --> 00:32:56,603 I mean, I would see my mum kind of ill - chemo, losing hair - 730 00:32:56,603 --> 00:33:00,683 but she never, like, complained to us. 731 00:33:00,683 --> 00:33:03,243 They were really good at protecting us. 732 00:33:11,003 --> 00:33:12,283 INTERCOM BEEPS 733 00:33:12,283 --> 00:33:14,483 GATE UNLOCKS Oh, that was easy. 734 00:33:14,483 --> 00:33:15,923 Thank you. 735 00:33:17,883 --> 00:33:19,123 Hello! 736 00:33:20,123 --> 00:33:21,643 Nice to see you. Welcome. 737 00:33:21,643 --> 00:33:22,883 Well, this is fabulous. 738 00:33:22,883 --> 00:33:25,083 Welcome to the family house. Gosh. 739 00:33:25,083 --> 00:33:26,363 In North West London, 740 00:33:26,363 --> 00:33:29,243 I had a dinner invitation to Rita's family home... 741 00:33:29,243 --> 00:33:30,683 Nice to meet you. You must be Vera. 742 00:33:30,683 --> 00:33:32,683 I'm Vera. How do you do? Thanks for having us. 743 00:33:32,683 --> 00:33:33,883 Welcome to our house. 744 00:33:33,883 --> 00:33:37,723 ..with Mum, Vera, Dad, Nik, and the full complement of Ora siblings. 745 00:33:39,083 --> 00:33:42,683 The house was one Rita had bought eight years ago. 746 00:33:42,683 --> 00:33:43,963 I'm fine. 747 00:33:43,963 --> 00:33:45,683 We cleaned up a bit for you. 748 00:33:45,683 --> 00:33:48,723 It's such a... It's so nice! It's not usually like this. Wow. 749 00:33:48,723 --> 00:33:50,563 It's really not usually like this. 750 00:33:50,563 --> 00:33:51,963 Oh, there's my brother! 751 00:33:51,963 --> 00:33:53,883 Hi. You must be Don. Yeah, pleasure to meet you. 752 00:33:53,883 --> 00:33:54,923 Louis. Likewise. 753 00:33:54,923 --> 00:33:57,043 Am I right in thinking that you're all staying here - 754 00:33:57,043 --> 00:33:59,763 because you're back from LA, but basically you've kind of 755 00:33:59,763 --> 00:34:02,963 reconstituted the nuclear family arrangement? 756 00:34:02,963 --> 00:34:05,963 Yeah, so... Like, all five of you are under the roof? 757 00:34:05,963 --> 00:34:08,363 2.5, yes. Can you imagine? 758 00:34:08,363 --> 00:34:10,523 It feels like the premise for a sitcom, 759 00:34:10,523 --> 00:34:14,483 like "international pop star moves back in with her parents." 760 00:34:14,483 --> 00:34:18,523 Everyone has their own room and it stays as they left it. 761 00:34:18,523 --> 00:34:22,043 So... Very cute. It's, in a way, you know... Frozen in time. 762 00:34:22,043 --> 00:34:24,763 No, it's, in a way, an invitation. 763 00:34:24,763 --> 00:34:27,843 So wherever they are, they are always, you know, 764 00:34:27,843 --> 00:34:30,523 welcome here, and should be here, I think. That's nice. 765 00:34:30,523 --> 00:34:33,163 Aw! It's nice to feel that you have that. 766 00:34:33,163 --> 00:34:37,243 The family had arrived in London 31 years earlier, after fleeing 767 00:34:37,243 --> 00:34:40,283 the outbreak of war in the former Yugoslavia. 768 00:34:40,283 --> 00:34:43,443 In terms of arriving here as a family, as refugees - 769 00:34:43,443 --> 00:34:44,923 can I use that word? 770 00:34:44,923 --> 00:34:48,243 Yeah. Yeah. What was the experience like? 771 00:34:48,243 --> 00:34:52,083 We actually didn't know what we expected here, 772 00:34:52,083 --> 00:34:56,123 but after seeing what happened in Croatia and Bosnia, and starting 773 00:34:56,123 --> 00:34:59,363 in Kosovo, the main thing was for our two girls 774 00:34:59,363 --> 00:35:01,683 at that time to be safe. Mm. 775 00:35:01,683 --> 00:35:02,963 What was it like? 776 00:35:02,963 --> 00:35:06,283 Was it relatively straightforward to get settled? 777 00:35:06,283 --> 00:35:08,603 Vera, you... Do you remember it? 778 00:35:08,603 --> 00:35:10,923 I don't... No, no, it wasn't straightforward. 779 00:35:10,923 --> 00:35:14,803 I came quite happy and enthusiastic and everything else, 780 00:35:14,803 --> 00:35:18,563 but then reality hit me, as a woman, as a mother, 781 00:35:18,563 --> 00:35:20,443 and I couldn't speak the language. 782 00:35:20,443 --> 00:35:25,243 So the girls started learning and... Much quicker than me. 783 00:35:25,243 --> 00:35:29,203 And, yeah, Elena was helping to interpret, even. 784 00:35:29,203 --> 00:35:33,643 I remember when I took them to the GP and I was... 785 00:35:33,643 --> 00:35:35,723 It makes me sad because... 786 00:35:36,883 --> 00:35:38,483 Yeah. 787 00:35:38,483 --> 00:35:43,683 It makes me sad because then I used her as my interpreter, 788 00:35:43,683 --> 00:35:46,763 and I know probably it felt really difficult 789 00:35:46,763 --> 00:35:48,723 for her being under stress. 790 00:35:50,123 --> 00:35:52,323 Nik, do you want to talk now? 791 00:35:52,323 --> 00:35:54,363 LAUGHTER You're fine! 792 00:35:54,363 --> 00:35:57,003 You were going through a lot, too, weren't you? 793 00:35:57,003 --> 00:36:00,843 Yeah. Yeah, because I think I took it a bit harder 794 00:36:00,843 --> 00:36:05,043 because I was a doctor, and then I just became a housewife, 795 00:36:05,043 --> 00:36:06,403 which was fine. 796 00:36:06,403 --> 00:36:10,043 Now, looking back, actually, I used that time to raise the girls 797 00:36:10,043 --> 00:36:13,243 and to spend time with them, and... 798 00:36:13,243 --> 00:36:16,763 But at that time, I thought, "Oh, my God, I'm not working. 799 00:36:16,763 --> 00:36:20,003 "I was a doctor. What am I supposed to do now?" 800 00:36:20,003 --> 00:36:22,163 I had to start all over again, 801 00:36:22,163 --> 00:36:25,963 to take my medical exams, because I had a gap of 802 00:36:25,963 --> 00:36:28,643 seven, eight years that I hadn't done medicine. 803 00:36:28,643 --> 00:36:29,763 But I did it. 804 00:36:29,763 --> 00:36:32,123 I'm very happy that I'm doing the job I'm doing, 805 00:36:32,123 --> 00:36:34,043 now that I'm working for the NHS. 806 00:36:34,043 --> 00:36:35,443 It's a lot to do. 807 00:36:35,443 --> 00:36:37,323 That's incredible, really. 808 00:36:38,323 --> 00:36:40,323 So we're going to look at a few photos. 809 00:36:40,323 --> 00:36:41,723 Yeah, come on, let's have a look. 810 00:36:41,723 --> 00:36:42,963 The family album. 811 00:36:42,963 --> 00:36:45,203 Well, I just thought it'd be really nice to... 812 00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:47,563 It's nice that you've got them in physical form. 813 00:36:47,563 --> 00:36:50,123 I know. Do you... Guys, come on! Come and sit. 814 00:36:50,123 --> 00:36:51,363 Come on. What's happening? 815 00:36:51,363 --> 00:36:53,683 Don't suddenly get camera-shy! 816 00:36:55,403 --> 00:36:58,883 But don't you think back to times when you were living and it was hard 817 00:36:58,883 --> 00:37:01,283 and then sometimes that's the happiest time, isn't it? 818 00:37:01,283 --> 00:37:04,203 There's one video here where we were staying briefly 819 00:37:04,203 --> 00:37:05,403 in, like, a room, and I... 820 00:37:05,403 --> 00:37:07,683 I want you to watch this. Let's watch it. 821 00:37:07,683 --> 00:37:09,283 How big was the flat? 822 00:37:09,283 --> 00:37:10,483 Erm, it was that. That's it. 823 00:37:10,483 --> 00:37:12,723 That room. Just one room? Mm-hm. 824 00:37:12,723 --> 00:37:14,083 MUSIC PLAYS ON FILM 825 00:37:14,083 --> 00:37:16,083 Yeah, we all just danced. 826 00:37:17,523 --> 00:37:19,083 BABY CRIES 827 00:37:19,083 --> 00:37:21,483 Oh, she stepped on him! I just pushed him out the way! 828 00:37:21,483 --> 00:37:23,603 THEY LAUGH 829 00:37:23,603 --> 00:37:25,083 Did you step on his foot? 830 00:37:25,083 --> 00:37:27,083 Yes, and I don't care - look. 831 00:37:27,083 --> 00:37:28,923 Oh, no. 832 00:37:28,923 --> 00:37:31,243 # Happy Birthday to you... # 833 00:37:31,243 --> 00:37:32,963 That's me singing Happy Birthday. 834 00:37:35,243 --> 00:37:38,403 He's looking like, "What is going on?" 835 00:37:38,403 --> 00:37:41,163 He's just tried to touch the candle. 836 00:37:41,163 --> 00:37:42,643 What's wrong with you? 837 00:37:42,643 --> 00:37:43,683 I know. 838 00:37:45,603 --> 00:37:48,083 I'm trying to make him blow the candle. 839 00:37:49,803 --> 00:37:51,083 That's so lovely. 840 00:37:54,003 --> 00:37:59,363 We had so much happiness and there was always music playing still. 841 00:38:00,563 --> 00:38:03,843 We didn't care and we were just together. 842 00:38:03,843 --> 00:38:07,163 We're lucky to have each other, you know? So... 843 00:38:09,243 --> 00:38:10,763 It's such a big deal. 844 00:38:10,763 --> 00:38:12,283 Yay! 845 00:38:15,243 --> 00:38:17,883 Vera, I know you're keen to get going with the cooking, aren't you? 846 00:38:17,883 --> 00:38:19,203 I'm not doing it on my own. 847 00:38:19,203 --> 00:38:21,083 We have to turn it into a ball. Mum, show him. 848 00:38:21,083 --> 00:38:23,643 You can do that as well, but I usually do this. 849 00:38:23,643 --> 00:38:25,803 I made a hole. 850 00:38:25,803 --> 00:38:27,243 Any wine? 851 00:38:27,243 --> 00:38:29,003 Any wine or some water? 852 00:38:30,643 --> 00:38:32,563 A little glass of wine would be nice. 853 00:38:32,563 --> 00:38:33,763 Red? Please. 854 00:38:34,803 --> 00:38:38,883 Vera had enlisted my help to make a Kosovan dish called pite. 855 00:38:38,883 --> 00:38:40,363 The best dish ever. 856 00:38:40,363 --> 00:38:41,523 It's spinach pie. 857 00:38:41,523 --> 00:38:46,283 And I think it's a good reminder for my family to get together 858 00:38:46,283 --> 00:38:48,883 because they don't have it elsewhere. 859 00:38:48,883 --> 00:38:51,683 Maybe it's gone a bit dishevelled because we've been talking 860 00:38:51,683 --> 00:38:54,723 and it's gone a bit. No, it looks fine. 861 00:38:54,723 --> 00:38:58,043 It's going to be good. It's going to be so good! 862 00:38:58,043 --> 00:39:01,563 The journey that your family went on and the trials that they went 863 00:39:01,563 --> 00:39:05,523 through, that you all went through, and the sacrifices they made 864 00:39:05,523 --> 00:39:07,803 have given you a sense of responsibility. 865 00:39:07,803 --> 00:39:12,723 When you come from nothing and you get something, you always 866 00:39:12,723 --> 00:39:15,443 have that fear that you're going to end up again with nothing 867 00:39:15,443 --> 00:39:17,323 because you know how it feels. 868 00:39:17,323 --> 00:39:22,723 So when I had like a taste of some sort of success, I was like, 869 00:39:22,723 --> 00:39:25,003 I can't fail, you know? 870 00:39:26,123 --> 00:39:31,043 So anything that sort of triggers that emotion of 871 00:39:31,043 --> 00:39:32,723 it can all go like that... 872 00:39:34,363 --> 00:39:39,123 ..it brings back how it felt when I...when you have nothing, 873 00:39:39,123 --> 00:39:41,803 I'm doing this for not just myself. 874 00:39:42,763 --> 00:39:46,603 And I definitely didn't want to fail. 875 00:39:47,683 --> 00:39:51,363 But do you think if you felt she was struggling or if in any way... 876 00:39:51,363 --> 00:39:54,363 Because there's a lot of toll that comes with being in the public eye, 877 00:39:54,363 --> 00:39:55,843 right? Do you keep an eye on that? 878 00:39:55,843 --> 00:39:59,603 There were times when she was really stressed and I got worried, 879 00:39:59,603 --> 00:40:03,323 to be honest, and it was heartbreaking. 880 00:40:03,323 --> 00:40:07,803 And there's moments where I run home and I say, look, this is a lot 881 00:40:07,803 --> 00:40:09,843 and I don't know what to do. 882 00:40:13,323 --> 00:40:14,683 What do you guys think? 883 00:40:14,683 --> 00:40:17,163 That looks good. Thank you so much for having me. 884 00:40:17,163 --> 00:40:20,283 I really appreciate it, to your good health. Thanks for coming and doing 885 00:40:20,283 --> 00:40:22,483 this. Thank you. It was an honour to have you here. 886 00:40:22,483 --> 00:40:23,683 Thank you very much. 887 00:40:23,683 --> 00:40:26,283 Thank you so much for coming by. 888 00:40:30,563 --> 00:40:32,083 Let me see all your faces. 889 00:40:33,603 --> 00:40:35,523 Let me see you. 890 00:40:35,523 --> 00:40:37,483 CHEERING 891 00:40:39,443 --> 00:40:42,443 I've been doing this for ten-plus years. 892 00:40:42,443 --> 00:40:46,843 Every time I come back here, back in Albania, 893 00:40:46,843 --> 00:40:48,843 I can always count on you to show up. 894 00:40:48,843 --> 00:40:52,403 Thank you so much for showing up tonight. You're so amazing. 895 00:41:01,643 --> 00:41:06,123 As Rita left the stage, I reflected on the journey she and her family 896 00:41:06,123 --> 00:41:10,243 had been on, fleeing a beleaguered nation, then achieving a level 897 00:41:10,243 --> 00:41:14,683 of success in a new land that must at one time have been unimaginable. 898 00:41:24,363 --> 00:41:26,243 Bye, Louis. I'll say bye-bye. 899 00:41:26,243 --> 00:41:27,483 Travel safe. 900 00:41:28,603 --> 00:41:30,483 Thank you for coming. I hope you had fun. 901 00:41:30,483 --> 00:41:32,563 Travel safe. Thank you. Thank you. 902 00:41:33,563 --> 00:41:35,883 FIREWORKS 903 00:41:54,923 --> 00:41:58,163 I mean, in a way, it's sort of glib, 904 00:41:58,163 --> 00:42:01,363 but you are a true success story, 905 00:42:01,363 --> 00:42:04,763 someone who came from... Children of refugees fleeing 906 00:42:04,763 --> 00:42:07,443 an unstable political situation. 907 00:42:07,443 --> 00:42:11,403 And then now you're a world-bestriding pop songstress, 908 00:42:11,403 --> 00:42:14,643 actor, model, and you being outspoken about not hiding your 909 00:42:14,643 --> 00:42:16,803 Kosovan-ness, that's your life story. 910 00:42:16,803 --> 00:42:18,243 I like that, Kosovan-ness. 911 00:42:18,243 --> 00:42:21,043 Yeah, your Kosovan-anity. In a way, you're putting it on the map. 912 00:42:21,043 --> 00:42:22,243 Yeah. 913 00:42:22,243 --> 00:42:25,803 Being in the industry for over ten years, I've suddenly felt 914 00:42:25,803 --> 00:42:28,163 a sense of calmness, weirdly. 915 00:42:28,163 --> 00:42:31,243 Maybe that has a lot to do with my personal life, 916 00:42:31,243 --> 00:42:34,363 but also my confidence musically. 917 00:42:34,363 --> 00:42:39,003 And so I think I've just reached a point where I'm just very much 918 00:42:39,003 --> 00:42:40,323 contained and settled. 919 00:42:40,323 --> 00:42:43,203 Yeah, I'm very happy to be where I'm at. 920 00:42:45,883 --> 00:42:48,723 Have you read the papers in the last 12 hours? 921 00:42:48,723 --> 00:42:51,123 What's happened now? Should I congratulate you? 922 00:42:51,123 --> 00:42:54,683 They're reporting that you and Taika... Spill it. 923 00:42:54,683 --> 00:42:56,963 ..Taika Waititi are engaged. 924 00:42:56,963 --> 00:42:59,603 I mean, that's definitely been a conversation, 925 00:42:59,603 --> 00:43:02,003 but it's just really difficult at the moment. 926 00:43:02,003 --> 00:43:03,243 Congratulations. Thank you. 927 00:43:03,243 --> 00:43:04,963 So you're talking about getting married. 928 00:43:04,963 --> 00:43:08,603 Well, it's something that I've always dreamed of since I was a kid. 929 00:43:08,603 --> 00:43:11,043 Yeah. And it's definitely... This is with Taika, now you've 930 00:43:11,043 --> 00:43:13,043 got an actual human to go with the dream. 931 00:43:13,043 --> 00:43:14,363 He definitely is a great human. 932 00:43:14,363 --> 00:43:16,003 And he's the one. 933 00:43:16,003 --> 00:43:17,403 Yeah, he's awesome. 934 00:43:19,683 --> 00:43:22,123 Amazing. We're done. Thanks, Rita. 935 00:43:22,123 --> 00:43:25,123 You and Taika have a very similar sense of humour. 936 00:43:25,123 --> 00:43:26,843 How's Taika doing? He's good. 937 00:43:26,843 --> 00:43:30,843 He's in New York at the moment doing a Time 100 Gala. 938 00:43:30,843 --> 00:43:32,683 Yeah. Not a big deal. 939 00:43:32,683 --> 00:43:35,003 One of the 100 most influential... 940 00:43:35,003 --> 00:43:36,923 Yawn. Oh, don't tell him that. 941 00:43:36,923 --> 00:43:39,003 Boring! Boring. 942 00:43:42,723 --> 00:43:44,043 Oh. Whatever.