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[man] It is amazing.
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You guys are the top
entertainment earners in Australia.
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More than Russell Crowe.
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More than Nicole Kidman.
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I mean, this thing is a monster.
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And as I'd watch it,
I'd kind of be laughing
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and I'd sing, you know,
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"Hot Potato" and all the songs,
and it's cute.
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And I was trying to analyze,
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{\an8}so, okay, these guys
are really smart guys.
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{\an8}There's a reason for the colors.
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There's a reason for the lyrics.
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There needs to be a psychology
of why you guys...
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Why this hits.
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[crowd cheering]
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[announcer] Everybody,
are you ready to Wiggle?
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[crowd cheering]
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Come on! Here we go! Give it up!
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[bass drum sounding]
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[The Wiggles: "Fruit Salad"]
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[announcer] Anthony!
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[crowd cheering]
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[Anthony] Jeff!
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[crowd cheering]
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[Anthony] Murray!
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[crowd cheering]
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[Anthony] Greg!
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[crowd cheering]
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[Greg] Hello, Sydney!
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Oh, it's great to see you tonight!
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Let me ask you a question.
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Are you ready to Wiggle?
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- [cheering]
- Yeah!
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{\an8}[The Wiggles: "Hot Potato"]
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{\an8}[man] They are the world's
number-one preschool band.
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{\an8}[woman] They're like
The Beatles for toddlers.
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[man] The Wiggles rule!
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[singing]
Hot potato, hot potato!
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You can always say it's a hobby,
in the end, for sure.
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{\an8}Hot potato, hot potato!
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[man] These tickets were hotter
than The Stones and Springsteen.
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[man] They again topped the BRW List
with 50 million dollars.
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{\an8}[woman] Children know a good song
when they hear one.
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[man] But do not be fooled
by their simplicity...
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It's The Wiggles!
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...but their music is up there
with the greats.
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- [man 1] And the winner is The Wiggles.
- [man 2] The Wiggles.
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- [woman 1] The Wiggles.
- [woman 2] The Wiggles!
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[man] There is a saying,
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{\an8}"Childhood is never history.
Childhood is always with us."
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- Hi.
- [all] We're The Wiggles.
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- [all laughing]
- We are, really.
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Potato, potato, potato
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{\an8}["Hot Potato" ends]
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[Jeff Fatt] You want my story
of how the colored skivvies came about.
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I just chose purple straight up.
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I had a red, a red shirt.
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{\an8}I heard that there was a race
to the bargain bin table
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{\an8}between Greg and Anthony.
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{\an8}They both could see a blue shirt,
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{\an8}and so they both ran for it
and Anthony won.
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[chuckles]
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But I'm not sure if that's true.
It's a good story, though.
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{\an8}My memory is Greg got yellow,
and all of us were glad.
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No offense to anyone who loves yellow,
but I just, it wasn't my color.
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[chuckles]
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[Greg Page] That's me in a yellow skivvy
even before I wore the yellow skivvy.
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[chuckles]
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[Murray Cook] This wasn't something
that was invented in a boardroom.
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It was, you know,
just four mates who did a record
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and they thought that was all
it was going to be. [chuckles]
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My '49 Martin.
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[Anthony] Murray's nickname
just simply is Muzza.
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He loves to get out there and rock.
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[Murray] Stratocaster.
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{\an8}Murray is very considered in his thinking
and his way of doing things.
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[Murray] Sure.
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[Greg] He's not spontaneous.
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[knock on door]
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Is that the secret knock?
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Sorry, guys. Sorry, Muzz.
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Uh, I've just got to find
this bloody speaker that...
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- You know what...
- [Greg] Anthony is so spontaneous
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and like, "Yep, this is a great idea.
Let's do this."
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Whereas Muzz will be kind of like,
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"Mmm, okay, let's have a look at that.
Let's analyze things a bit there."
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Anthony is a ratbag.
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[laughing]
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That's it. That's the one, mate.
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I've been bad-mouthing you the whole time.
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I thought you would.
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Well, you can pay me back. [chuckles]
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[Murray] Anthony's great.
He has so much energy.
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[playing banjo]
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[Murray] So many ideas.
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He's really the heart of The Wiggles.
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[playing piano]
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[Greg] Jeff would take a photo every day,
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every day, and I think he still does it.
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[Anthony] He reminds me
of The Rolling Stones' Charlie Watts.
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In the background, but he is cool.
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Greg was a young, young man
when he joined The Wiggles.
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[strumming guitar]
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No matter what he's singing,
it's gonna soothe the soul.
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[singing]
Taba naba naba norem
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[Greg] It was a great relationship,
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the way that the four of us
would work together.
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Had its moments, as any relationship does.
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[singing] Sere re naba we
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But the intent and the motivation
has always been about the kids.
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Are you ready to wiggle?
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I'm ready to wiggle.
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Is everyone ready to wiggle?
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- Yeah!
- [children cheering]
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We met at university,
doing a course in Early Childhood.
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This connection with music
and Early Childhood teaching
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is really the flow on thing
of what became The Wiggles.
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Can you do that with us?
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- The ducks went...
- [all] Quack.
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[Murray] When I was at university,
this course was really great
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because one of the things you looked at
was the way children think.
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How they think
quite differently from adults.
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Not just they don't know as much,
their brain works differently,
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and I found that really fascinating.
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Huh. Who are those young,
fresh-faced fellows?
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Well, that one is, um...
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Anthony and me at our graduation.
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We both started second year
at the same time,
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and I would have been 30
and Anthony would have been 27.
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I'd just got married and... [chuckles]
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He said, "What're you getting married for?
There's all these girls here."
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[laughing]
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There were five guys in our year,
180 women.
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Murray was married, and that was great,
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but as a young, testosterone-...
I couldn't understand it. [laughs]
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But that is so superficial,
and I'm a changed man.
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[laughing]
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{\an8}[rock music playing]
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{\an8}[Murray] Greg was a lot younger.
He's about 12 years younger than me.
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Anthony and I were in third year
when Greg started in first year.
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At university,
Anthony was pretty well known.
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He was in a band called The Cockroaches.
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[indistinct cheering]
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[The Cockroaches: "She's the One"]
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I would listen to that song
over and over, like multiple times.
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I'd drive my family crazy with this album.
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[mouthing along]
Ready on the starting line
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This is The Cockroaches.
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They were my idols.
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I just... I just loved their music
and I loved them.
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Come on, come on,
come on, come on, yeah, yeah
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Hey, let's go, let's go, let's go
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Hey, let's go...
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How can you not love it?
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Hey, let's go, let's go
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She's the one, she's the one
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She's the one, she's the one
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She's the one, she's the one
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She's the one
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[Anthony] The Cockroaches
was a band I was in
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with my brothers, Paul
and Johnny, and Jeff.
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It was quite an amazing vibe every night.
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And it was just so much fun.
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Come on, come on...
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{\an8}We played all the time.
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{\an8}There were nights when we played
three gigs in a night.
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Hey, let's go...
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[Greg] The energy was infectious.
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So I joined The Cockroaches fan club.
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[Paul] Greg was helping us out
as a roadie.
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He did some work experience
with The Cockroaches.
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[Anthony] We had a couple of hits,
but it was mainly Paul and Johnny's band.
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Johnny was writing all the songs.
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I didn't have much creative input.
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I left and went
"I've got to go to university."
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["She's The One" stops playing]
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[Greg] Anthony pulled me aside and said,
"You can't be a roadie all your life."
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I said, "Well, look,
if there's something else I could do,
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I'd probably be a teacher."
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He said, "Do Early Childhood teaching.
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It's about freedom of creativity.
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It's about expressing yourself
through music and the arts."
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And I just loved it.
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[Murray] They were really passionate
about music, and I was, too.
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And I guess that was partly
why we gravitated.
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[Greg] Up in the music rooms,
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we'd been getting together
and going through children's music,
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but, in our time off,
we'd go busking for a bit of fun,
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[indistinct chatter]
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One day, we were busking,
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Anthony, Jeff, Murray, myself,
and Anthony's brother John,
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and John, being a great songwriter,
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he would often come up with songs
literally on the spur of the moment.
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And he just started playing this thing
on the guitar and, uh...
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Can I grab that?
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And just starts going...
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[playing guitar]
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[singing]
Hot tamale, hot tamale
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And he turned to us
and he'd go, "Sing along."
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[singing]
Hot tamale, hot tamale
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Hot tamale, hot tamale
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Hot tamale, hot tamale
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Hot tamale, hot tamale
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-Hot tamale, hot tamale
-Tamale
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-Tamale
-Tamale
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Tamale, tamale, tamale
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And Anthony thought, "This is great.
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You know, there's a real opportunity here
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to take this
and turn it into a kids' song,
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but we can't sing about tamales.
We're going to sing about potatoes."
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We kind of went,
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Australian kids won't know
what hot tamales are.
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[singing]
Hot potato, hot potato
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Hot potato, hot potato
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Hot potato, hot potato
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Potato
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Potato, potato, potato
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What else?
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-Cold spaghetti, cold spaghetti
-Cold spaghetti, cold spaghetti
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-Cold spaghetti, cold spaghetti
-Cold spaghetti, cold spaghetti
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-Cold spaghetti, cold spaghetti
-Spaghetti
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-Spaghetti
-Spaghetti
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Spaghetti, spaghetti...
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Just turned it into a food song,
which kids love.
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-Mashed banana, mashed banana
-Mashed banana, mashed banana
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-Mashed banana, mashed banana
-Mashed banana, mashed banana
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-Mashed banana, mashed banana
-Banana
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-Banana
-Banana
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Banana, banana, banana
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Big jump, everyone.
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Whoo, wiggy, wiggy, wiggy
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Whoo, wiggy, wiggy, wiggy
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Gimme that, gimme that, gimme that
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Big jump.
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Whoo, wiggy, wiggy, wiggy
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Whoo, wiggy, wiggy, wiggy
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Gimme that, gimme that
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-Hot potato, hot potato
-Hot potato, hot potato
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-Hot potato, hot potato
-Hot potato, hot potato
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-Hot potato, hot potato
-Potato
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-Potato
-Potato
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Potato, potato, potato
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Whoo!
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- Thank you.
- [crowd cheering]
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{\an8}[Anthony] That's when I thought,
"Well, you know what?
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{\an8}I reckon if I get some people together
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and we use our Early Childhood training,
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our musicianship,
uh, we could make an album."
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[Greg] I mean, I remember the call
I got from Anthony
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because I was still living at home.
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He rang up and he said,
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"Oh, you know, I want to get together
and write and record some songs for kids."
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You know, I was still in awe of this guy.
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To be asked to record with him
was just like, "Wow, this is really cool."
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[Jeff] I was renovating my house
and I get a call from Anthony,
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"Would you like to come down to the studio
and play on some songs?"
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I thought it'd be only a few hours.
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Just wanted to get out of
the studio as fast as possible
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to get back to my renovations. [laughs]
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[Murray] Anthony's initial idea
was that it might be a collective,
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that people come and go.
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Then we had a guy,
Phillip Wilcher, originally,
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who we knew from the university,
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he worked in the music department,
and he did a few piano pieces.
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[piano music playing]
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[Anthony] Phillip was a classical player.
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We wanted to be all styles of music
because that's part of the philosophy.
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Give children a broad range
of music styles.
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But we all brought songs in.
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My brother Johnny, he came and, uh,
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I said, "Have you got any songs?"
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He had an adult song called,
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"Here Comes Mr. Wiggle," right?
Which was...
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[singing]
Ba-dum-pum-pum-ba-dum-ba-dum
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Ba-dum-pum-pum-ba-dum-ba-dum
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Ba-dum-pum-pum-ba-dum-ba-dum-bum
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It's wiggle time!
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Now we're ready to wiggle
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Wiggle your fingers high in the sky
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We're ready...
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So The Wiggles got its name
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from the song "Get Ready to Wiggle."
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It's kind of ideal, in a way,
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because it is kind of
the way kids dance, too,
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they kind of wiggle around,
but it's also no one is going to
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mistake it for a heavy metal band.
[chuckles]
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[singing]
Come on, wiggle all ten toes
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That's right
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Ba-dum-bum-bum-ba-dum
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Big jump!
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Ba-dum-bum-bum-ba-dum
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Ba-dum-bum-bum-ba-dum
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Ba-dum-bum-bum-ba-dum
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We can wiggle, whoo, wiggle, whoo
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Wiggle at home without a care
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Wiggle, whoo, wiggle, whoo
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Wiggle on your own or with teddy bear
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Wiggle, whoo, wiggle, whoo
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Wiggle at breakfast, lunch or tea
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Wiggle, whoo, wiggle, whoo
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Come on, wiggle along with me
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That's right
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Wiggle along with me
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Uh-huh
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Ba-dum-pum-pum-ba-dum-ba-dum
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Ba-dum-pum-pum-ba-dum-ba-dum
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Ba-dum-pum-pum-ba-dum-ba-dum-bum
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- Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle!
- Whoo!
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[crowd cheering]
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Whoo!
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[Anthony] Yeah, I wanted to go to the ABC
and have it released
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because the ABC
were children's music in Australia.
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They were the benchmark.
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[Jeff] We went through each song
and wrote the rationale
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for why it was good for children.
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I remember that moment of being told
we've got a record deal.
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It was just like,
"Wow, this is happening."
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[Murray] It was on cassette and CD.
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CDs were just pretty new.
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It was just really exciting.
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{\an8}[The Wiggles: "Get Ready to Wiggle"]
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Everybody loosen up
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[Murray] They did the
"Get Ready to Wiggle" video,
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and we were like,
pretty excited about that.
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I'd never been in a music video
of any sort.
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Get ready to wiggle
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We've been ready for so long
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Get ready to wiggle
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When you wiggle, you can't...
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[Murray] We all thought
it was just a one-off.
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We never thought
we'd make a career from it.
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Wiggle will make you big and strong
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[Anthony] I got a job in a preschool.
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I was really loving teaching.
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And Murray was teaching, too.
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In the holidays, we'd do shows.
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We had a meeting,
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and we said we need a character
for the children to relate to.
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So Murray came up
with Dorothy the Dinosaur.
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I just saw how fascinated
children are with dinosaurs.
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But I wanted
this kind of friendly dinosaur.
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[Anthony] He wrote a song, or wrote
the words for "Dorothy the Dinosaur,"
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which I said scanned exactly to
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a Cockroaches song called
"It's Another Saturday Night."
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Yeah, it's on again
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Just like it was before
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Revvin' and raisin' and lovin' up a storm
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Eating all Mum's roses
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There in the moonlight
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It was Dorothy the Dinosaur
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[Murray] Anthony would take
some of the songs
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and play them to the kids
at his preschool.
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He would give out tapes.
The parents would come back and say,
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"Our kid's playing that song,
you know, 20 times in a row."
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You know, rock and roll
just really resonated with kids.
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That was also the key
to our popularity increasing.
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[singing]
Romp-bomp-a-chomp!
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Romp-bomp-a-chomp!
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Rose is cool
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[Anthony] Dorothy was
our first feminine character.
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Murray's wife, Meg, made the first suit.
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You could see jeans, you could see shirt,
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but we knew from research
that children are centered thinkers,
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so they would center on the face
and that's all you needed.
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And that was true.
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Children didn't say,
"There's a man in there."
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They'd just go, "There's a dinosaur."
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[singing]
...he fell to the ground
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Now I take it that's Dorothy the Dinosaur!
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[chuckling] Ah!
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Good times. [chuckles]
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We're so young. And you can hear my voice.
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[singing along in high voice]
"In the backyard now?" [chuckles]
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Romp-bomp-a-chomp!
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Dorothy the Dinosaur
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Chomp!
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[Anthony] Jeremy Fabinyi was
our Cockroaches manager,
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and I came to him
with the idea for The Wiggles.
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[Greg] I remember being
at Jeremy's office.
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He said, "You've got to get out there
and promote the album.
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You've got to do some shows."
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That's what any band does, right?
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They get out and they tour.
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[Jeff] We'd do kids' birthday parties,
so we'd play to, you know, ten people.
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[Anthony] So Greg found a booking agent
for children's entertainment.
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He gave her photographs of us,
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the thesis behind
what The Wiggles are, the tape,
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and she said, "I'm sorry, Greg,
can't do anything with this.
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What am I going to do
with four men and a dinosaur?"
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And Greg was very downhearted
and came to us.
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I do remember saying,
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"Oh, mate, let's just try it anyway."
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[children chattering]
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[Greg] Well, we started playing
at preschools.
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Phillip had left by that point in time.
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By '92, we were doing town halls.
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Then I think we did
two shows of 500 people,
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and we did the numbers, and we thought,
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"Hang on, maybe we could be
making more out of this."
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That's when the business side
of things kicked in for us.
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We saw that there was a market
for what we were doing.
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{\an8}[children chattering]
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{\an8}[Anthony] I remember
Greg on the phone saying,
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{\an8}"We could actually do a lot more gigs
if you give up teaching."
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It was a big decision,
but I went, "Oh, okay. Mmm, okay."
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I gave up my scholarship to teach,
so I didn't actually start teaching.
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[Anthony] Murray said,
"I'm gonna give it up.
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Just do The Wiggles."
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Hello, everyone. We're The Wiggles.
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How are you all?
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-[children] Good,
-That's good.
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[Greg] We changed our look,
and that look was a much better look.
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Yeah, you can see why
these didn't stay. [laughs]
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Things like that being chosen.
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The whole idea of the colors was,
well, if children don't know our names,
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it was a really easy way to identify us.
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Now this is my favorite
part of the song because...
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[Greg] Anthony was great.
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He said, "Guys, whenever
somebody's talking on stage,
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we all need to be looking at them."
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We never thought about that.
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We treated it like a band.
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Did I hear someone say they were going
to play a trick on somebody?
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- Nope. Not at all, no.
- No, no.
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[Greg] This was the shift
that needed to happen.
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It was no longer a band.
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The Wiggles became a show.
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As adults, we can understand
the hype of the Rolling Stones,
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but it's hard to comprehend toddlers
going berserk over a rock band.
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You have to see it to believe it.
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I've got my ticket.
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[cranking]
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[Greg] Muzz and I,
we put together the sound system.
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It was very DIY.
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Security barrier.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Greg] It was like the embryonic nucleus
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had exploded and just went,
"Yep, this is The Wiggles."
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[singing]
See, 'cause that's the way we do it
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Riding in our Big Red Car
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-Big Red Car
-Our Big Red Car
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-Big Red Car
-Our Big Red Car
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And then, we made our own VHS video.
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Sophia, would you start the tape, please?
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{\an8}[The Wiggles: "Hot Potato"]
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{\an8}[Murray] We made
the cheapest video of all time.
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We took that Play School approach,
which they kind of did pioneer
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of talking directly down
the barrel of the camera.
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We'd like you to meet
a very special friend of ours.
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She's not a person like you or I.
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She's a dinosaur.
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It's as if you're talking
just to that one person,
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especially with egocentric kids,
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'cause they do think
they're the only ones there.
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{\an8}[Anthony] And wherever
The Wiggles go and sing and play,
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{\an8}our friend Dorothy the Dinosaur
comes with us.
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The merchandise, in the real early days,
was just in a suitcase.
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And then, we made our own Dorothy hats,
which Jeff designed.
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[Jeff] This is a prototype
of the original Dorothy hat.
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I did all the sewing myself.
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I've got an industrial machine at home.
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I hand-painted the whole cap.
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Would have been
very satisfying for children
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to be able to be Dorothy
in a very simple manner.
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No, Dorothy's not behind me.
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She is, Jeff. She really is.
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I better have another look then.
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[Anthony] Murray took care
of the dinosaur.
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But I was thinking,
"Well, that's feminine."
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Of course, it's for everybody,
but predominantly boys love a pirate.
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And if you went to a party at that time,
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there'd be a dinosaur
and there'd be a pirate.
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Now we're anti-guns or anti-violence,
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but the scheme of a pirate
must have a sword.
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[all growling]
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[all laughing]
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00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:42,440
Who is that? Who's tickling us?
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It's Captain Feathersword,
the friendly pirate.
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So I thought, give him a feather sword,
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then he's still a pirate,
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but he's harmless.
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And I was the original
Captain Feathersword.
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I'm Captain Feathersword,
the friendly pirate. Arrgh!
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00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,120
Captain Feathersword?
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A bing-bang-bong!
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00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,520
A ring-rang-rong!
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00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,520
That's a pirate song.
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[all] A pirate song.
489
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,840
[Anthony] When Paddy came along,
he was doing West Side Story at the time.
490
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,440
He is a classical actor.
491
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,120
He has got all the chops.
492
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,120
I was playing trumpet one night,
and I got a hernia.
493
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,760
{\an8}And he just said,
"Do you want to fill in?"
494
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,040
{\an8}And, at that point, I hadn't even met
the other three Wiggles.
495
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,200
Had no clue what the show was.
496
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,880
- Just stand very still.
- Okay.
497
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,560
- And I won't be very long.
- Okay.
498
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,840
Now, as I was about to say to you...
499
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,200
[children laughing]
500
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,160
[Greg] He's what?
501
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,480
He's dancing?
502
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,280
[Anthony] Anyone who's watched The Wiggles
knows how good that fella is.
503
00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:37,360
Even my mother said,
504
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,840
"He's a lot better than you are,
Anthony, at that." [laughs]
505
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,760
The characters provide
that fantasy element,
506
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,200
which is great for kids and imaginations.
507
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,200
[woman] It's very, very interactive.
508
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,400
The kids really get into it.
509
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,760
[Anthony]
Everything's got to involve them.
510
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,160
Every song we do,
they've got something to do in it
511
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,480
and they feel like
they're helping The Wiggles.
512
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,480
I remember when I was teaching
a preschool class,
513
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,720
I brought a vacuum cleaner into the class.
514
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,920
But then I noticed that all the children
gathering around, watching me do this,
515
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,880
I thought, "Okay, if they were
a bunch of adults,
516
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,400
they would not give me a second look."
517
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,760
{\an8}And I wrote a song which became
"Here Comes a Bear."
518
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,960
[singing]
Here comes a bear
519
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,600
Stomping, stomping
520
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,520
But it was...
521
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,920
Picking up the rubbish
522
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,600
Zooming, zooming
523
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,720
So, people say sometimes
they give a present to a child
524
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,800
and they are more interested in the box.
525
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,960
And that, again, shows you
it's a different, uh...
526
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,560
Different thinking to the adult.
527
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:32,920
We've got a song called "Walk."
528
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,400
[singing]
Walk on your way to school
529
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,320
Walk to the swimming pool
530
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,240
Walk...
531
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,160
[Anthony] 'Cause walking's
pretty exciting for children.
532
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,160
Catching a train the first time.
533
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,360
We're about being childlike
with the children.
534
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,600
Here we go.
535
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,680
[singing] Can you point your fingers
and do the twist?
536
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,640
[Anthony] Children love challenges.
537
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,600
"Can You (Point Your Fingers
And Do The Twist?)" is a challenge song.
538
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,080
...your fingers and do the...
539
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,800
[Anthony] They want to show a grown-up,
"I can do that."
540
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,800
[singing]
Well, we're gonna go up, then go down
541
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,960
Get back up and turn around
542
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,760
But can you point your fingers
and do the twist?
543
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,160
Cha-cha-cha
544
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,960
Yeah, I love that one.
It's fun. It's good fun.
545
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,280
All through our work, you can go,
546
00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:19,480
"Oh, that's a challenge song.
547
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,240
Oh, that's a listening song.
548
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,520
That's a singing song, a dancing song."
549
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,480
So, dancing songs are, you know,
"Do the Monkey."
550
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,480
[singing]
Do the monkey
551
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,400
Ooh-ooh-ah-ah, ooh-ooh-ah-ah!
552
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,960
Do the monkey
553
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,720
Yeah, my favorite
Wiggles song of all time
554
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,440
is "Rock-A-Bye Your Bear"
because it's so simple.
555
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,080
The actions... A lot of parents teach it
to their children as their first song.
556
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,880
I know a song about teddy bears.
557
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,000
Can you sing and do the actions with us?
558
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,080
[Anthony] Greg came up with...
559
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,440
[singing] Everybody clap
560
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,240
[rhythmic hand claps]
561
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,720
Everybody sing
562
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,920
La la la la la
563
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:51,880
That's all I had.
564
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,640
Anthony said, "Oh, yeah, this is great.
No, I can do something with that."
565
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,480
And he said,
"Okay, now bow to your partner."
566
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,680
[Greg singing]
Bow to your partner
567
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,240
Then you turn around
568
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,440
Hands in the air, rock-a-bye your bear
569
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,280
Bear's now asleep
570
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:12,600
I know I came up with,
"Bear's now asleep,"
571
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,080
but what I added to that,
which was brilliant melody from Greg,
572
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,360
um...
573
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,360
[playing melody]
574
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,200
[singing]
Everybody clap
575
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,480
[clapping]
576
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,880
Everybody sing
577
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,600
[kids] La la la la la
578
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,560
Bow to your partner
579
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,240
{\an8}Then you turn around
580
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,480
Hands in the air, rock-a-bye your bear
581
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,040
Bear's now asleep
582
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,600
{\an8}Sh, sh, sh
583
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,640
{\an8}[woman] Good boy.
584
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,200
What's brilliant about it is
you can do all the actions,
585
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,960
a child standing next to a child.
586
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,080
What they call that is parallel play.
587
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,040
Because a lot of children
don't want to hold hands,
588
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:56,960
but they do like to play
next to each other.
589
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,600
- [Greg] One, two, three, four.
- [crowd cheering]
590
00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,800
Arms up, everyone.
591
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,480
Let's all sway from side to side
and we'll sing "Rock-A-Bye Your Bear."
592
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,600
[singing]
Everybody clap
593
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,360
{\an8}[rhythmic hand claps]
594
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:11,400
{\an8}Everybody sing
595
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,920
La la la la la
596
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,080
Bow to your partner
597
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,480
Then you turn around
598
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,800
Yippee!
599
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,880
[crowd singing]
Hands in the air, rock-a-bye your bear
600
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,760
Bear's now asleep
601
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,680
Sh, sh, sh
602
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,880
Bear's now asleep
603
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,320
-Sh, sh, sh
-What's that?
604
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,440
Bear's now asleep
605
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,320
Sh, sh, sh
606
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,120
Bear's now asleep
607
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,520
Greg, you were saying something?
608
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,440
Jeff!
609
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,920
[crowd cheering]
610
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:43,920
[Murray] Oh, what?
611
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,840
- It's past his bedtime.
- [Murray laughs]
612
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,680
[Anthony] When Jeff first joined,
he was really worried.
613
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,040
And if I hadn't been
Early Childhood trained,
614
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:56,280
I would be scared
of a children's audience.
615
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:58,280
[quirky music playing]
616
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,720
[Jeff] When I was at school,
617
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,080
all my other siblings were forced
to learn the piano. [laughs]
618
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,480
As was I.
619
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,560
I mean, I...
620
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,760
I'm very uncomfortable, actually,
with being in front of an audience.
621
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,120
Unless I have a role to play and...
622
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,520
Like, for example,
public speaking, that sort of thing,
623
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,600
forget about it.
624
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,160
We couldn't really trust him
to say much. [laughs]
625
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,240
Because he quite often say things
that weren't appropriate for kids.
626
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,520
Not in a bad way, but just like,
"No, you wouldn't say it like that."
627
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,480
So we had to give him an education
628
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,400
as the Wiggles evolved.
629
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,640
Hi, we're getting ready for a show.
630
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,280
Somebody's missing.
631
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:40,680
[both] Where's Jeff?
632
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,840
Oh, no! He's asleep!
633
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,280
[Greg chuckling] Oh, no.
634
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:47,520
When I was teaching,
a play came to preschool,
635
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,440
and the children had to wake up a tree.
636
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,320
The tree would fall asleep
and they'd have to go, "Wake up, tree."
637
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,800
And I... "This is fantastic."
638
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,480
So we gave him the role
of just falling asleep.
639
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,280
Wake up, Jeff!
640
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:02,040
- [Jeff blubbering]
- [all laughing]
641
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:04,760
I like the song, "Wake Up Jeff!"
642
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,280
[singing]
Wake up, Jeff
643
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:07,800
Everybody's wiggling
644
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,240
Wake up, Jeff
645
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,520
We really need you
646
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,480
Wake up, Jeff
647
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,200
Something, um, something, something
648
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,440
Wake up, Jeff, before the day's through
649
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,920
I should know that, but I don't.
650
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,320
I do, but I can't remember.
651
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,600
[singing]
What's that sound?
652
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,360
I can hear somebody snoring...
653
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,960
[Murray] But the other part to this,
which was so powerful,
654
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,440
kids love having power over an adult,
655
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,520
so we need your help to wake Jeff up.
656
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:31,440
Yeah, they'd yell out...
657
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,200
- [children] Wake up, Jeff!
- [Jeff exclaiming]
658
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,360
It's like a remote control, right?
659
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,400
If you've got a remote control
over a person,
660
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,480
{\an8}they absolutely love it.
661
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,080
{\an8}[boy] Wake up, Jeff!
662
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,640
{\an8}Wake up, Jeff!
663
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,320
{\an8}[indistinct shouting]
664
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,400
{\an8}[indistinct shouting, screaming]
665
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,520
[Jeff] And I remember that Anthony said,
666
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,880
"Look, your life is never going
to be the same after this."
667
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,320
And it never has. [laughs]
668
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,600
{\an8}Oh, my goodness, it must be Jeff
669
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,720
{\an8}Wake up, Jeff
Everybody's wiggling
670
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,400
Well, a few thank-yous.
671
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,080
Of course, thank you to ARIA.
672
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,080
[man] Wake up, Jeff!
673
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,520
{\an8}- Yeah.
- [crowd clapping]
674
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,080
Our albums were selling
and our VHS videos were wildly successful,
675
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,320
so we thought,
"Why can't we do a TV show?"
676
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,360
We went to ABC Television.
677
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,440
They brought in an expert to critique us
678
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,440
who said he was embarrassed by us.
679
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,120
[bird trilling]
680
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,320
[cow mooing]
681
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,240
[singing]
Biggest rain we ever had
682
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,560
[Murray] We had several meetings
with different producers,
683
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,400
and one particular guy said,
684
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,560
"Your videos make us cringe" [laughs]
685
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,840
[singing]
The ducks went quack
686
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,360
The cows went moo
687
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,400
And basically said
we had to lose the dinosaur.
688
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,720
That was a moment where we just went,
"No, we know what we're doing."
689
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,360
- Yeah.
- [Dorothy] Thanks, Anthony.
690
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,840
Well, it's been a great party.
691
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,800
And thanks very much for coming along.
692
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,680
From then on, we just went,
"Okay, we'll just make it ourselves."
693
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,640
[The Wiggles: "Get Ready to Wiggle"]
694
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,960
{\an8}We always knew that man was wrong
about Dorothy the Dinosaur.
695
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,240
{\an8}And Dorothy became
the most loved character of all.
696
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,920
{\an8}[woman] Oh, look, Dorothy.
697
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,040
[crowd cheering]
698
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,880
[Anthony] When we look in the audience
and see 20-year-olds
699
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,800
wearing Dorothy hat or Dorothy tail,
it's just beautiful.
700
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,040
[Jeff] Do you wanna give
those roses to Dorothy?
701
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:19,560
[crowd cheering]
702
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,040
[laughing]
703
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,800
[Anthony] Their relationship with Dorothy
was something that they've still got.
704
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,280
{\an8}[singing]
D-O-R-O-T-H-Y
705
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:32,680
{\an8}- [woman] Dorothy the...
- Dinosaur
706
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,720
{\an8}Oh!
707
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,240
{\an8}D-O-R-O-T-H-Y
708
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,080
Dorothy the Dinosaur
709
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,160
-D-O-R-O-T-H-Y
-D-O-R-O-T-H-Y
710
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,040
She's my favorite dinosaur
711
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,080
- [cheers]
- [Murray] Dorothy!
712
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,760
[crowd cheering]
713
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,600
[Dorothy] Bye-bye!
714
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,560
Well, everyone,
it's almost the end of the year.
715
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,800
Christmas is coming.
716
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:00,960
Hanukkah is coming.
717
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,880
{\an8}We've got our Santa hats on.
718
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,240
{\an8}Let's sing some Christmas songs together.
719
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,320
[The Wiggles: "Go Santa Go!"]
720
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,600
[Anthony] By '97, we had an office,
we had staff.
721
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,760
It was commercial.
We had to support that.
722
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,480
[singing] Go, Santa, go
723
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,080
Go, go...
724
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,480
[Paddy] We went from playing venues
that held 500 people
725
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,400
to playing to 1,500 people a show.
726
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,000
And then I was like,
"Wow, this is really growing."
727
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,800
[man] The Wiggles have sold
more than 850,000 videos.
728
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,600
- [woman] Are you guys millionaires?
- No. [laughs]
729
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,200
Definitely not.
730
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,600
[singing]
Wiggly Christmas!
731
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,560
[crowd cheering]
732
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,360
[Greg] I think having a parent
who is in the public eye
733
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,160
can be challenging for a child
734
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,880
because it gave the other kids at school
something to tease them about.
735
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,520
And I would just say,
"Well, look, if I was an accountant,
736
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,560
people would find something
to tease you about regardless."
737
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,320
{\an8}Started out pretty much as a band
and I guess, in our naivety,
738
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,680
{\an8}we didn't know
there was such a thing as a brand
739
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,520
and that we would ever become a brand.
740
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,080
[Paul Field] I became the manager
for The Wiggles.
741
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,280
It was growing to the stage where,
742
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,200
"Okay, this is a kind of
fork-in-the-road time.
743
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,000
{\an8}We know what we've done, but
jeez, there's some real opportunities."
744
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,920
{\an8}[woman] They're The Wiggles
and, parents be warned,
745
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,040
{\an8}the whole Wiggles crew have just made
their first feature movie.
746
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,720
{\an8}172, take 3.
747
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,040
{\an8}We're always trying
to take it to the step forward,
748
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,680
{\an8}which is why the movie's great to do
after doing the videos,
749
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,120
and it's just such a big jump up.
750
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,600
[Jeff] That's a photo of me
getting made up
751
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,400
to have gone into this street
called Brrrrrr Street,
752
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,000
[laughs] where you could get very cold.
It was a segment in the movie.
753
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,200
Academy Award-worthy. [laughing]
754
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,000
[The Wiggles: "Toot Toot,
Chugga Chugga, Big Red Car"]
755
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,880
[woman] The Wiggles
are set to take the world on
756
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,680
with expectations of global exports.
757
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,760
There has been some interest
from overseas, so, yeah, fingers crossed.
758
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,840
[man] Done New Zealand
and Hong Kong already.
759
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,120
Um, where do you wanna go next?
Where are you going?
760
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Well, we're looking towards
the United States
761
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,200
later in the year, hopefully, so...
762
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,480
Don't go to the States.
They can't have The Wiggles.
763
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,240
I honestly believed in them.
764
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,520
I knew that they could be, in theory,
as big as they wanted to be.
765
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,280
[singing] Big Red Car
766
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,080
Riding all night long!
Ooh, yeah!
767
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,160
[Anthony] We decided to concentrate
on America, the biggest market.
768
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,520
It was exciting.
769
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,240
Trying to get a footprint
into the USA, it was hard.
770
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,640
You know, back home,
we could sell out shows,
771
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,120
but here in the U.S.,
772
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,040
we're playing to like,
one, two, three, four, five,
773
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,240
you can count 'em on one hand.
Five people.
774
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,640
And those two adults were publicists.
775
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,600
And the three children
were their children.
776
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,760
But this is how you start out, right?
777
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,520
It's hard work, but what isn't hard work
that's worth doing, right?
778
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,480
[Anthony] We got a job to play
at SeaWorld, Orlando, Florida.
779
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,560
And we had a six-week residency
in this little theater.
780
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,680
Then, somehow or other, Lyrick had
put out Barney the Dinosaur saw us.
781
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,960
{\an8}I don't look a day over
6,000, though, do I?
782
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:55,960
{\an8}No, you don't.
783
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,480
{\an8}You look really good.
784
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,080
{\an8}You brought some special friends with you.
785
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,200
{\an8}Can you can introduce them to us?
786
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,400
{\an8}Oh, sure.
787
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,960
{\an8}- Uh, they're my very wiggly wonders...
- I'll stand here.
788
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,480
{\an8}...from Down Under.
789
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,800
{\an8}- Hey!
- It's The Wiggles!
790
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,080
{\an8}- The Wiggles.
- [Barney laughs]
791
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,000
{\an8}Welcome, guys.
792
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,200
{\an8}Great to be here.
793
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,560
{\an8}What's it like for you guys
to travel with this dude?
794
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,640
{\an8}Oh, Barney's fantastic.
795
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,480
{\an8}He's friendly, he teaches all the songs,
shows us around America.
796
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,600
[Murray] They'd had
the foresight to actually test
797
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,480
some of our videos on kids
and watch them watching,
798
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,440
and these are kids
who're just watching it cold,
799
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,640
and they got into it straight away,
so they knew we had something.
800
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,920
{\an8}- Yeah.
- We're going to do "The Monkey Dance."
801
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,120
{\an8}- "The Monkey Dance."
- Yeah.
802
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,400
{\an8}These guys, it's like Jagger saying,
"I'm going to do 'Satisfaction.'"
803
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,600
{\an8}- [all laughing]
- [Russ Mitchell] The Wiggles.
804
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,920
{\an8}We discovered The Wiggles
when they opened up for Barney,
805
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,920
{\an8}and, you know, we just...
They were so catchy and they were so fun.
806
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,000
We're both kind of exhausted,
these new parents.
807
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,120
We would put on the tapes
808
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,360
and we found ourselves
rewinding to The Wiggles.
809
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,280
{\an8}We were like, you know, "This is really
more our speed," you know?
810
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,120
{\an8}[singing]
Do the elephant
811
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,400
{\an8}[Jackie] Their songs were just phenomenal.
812
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,320
They just had become part of everyday life
in our household at that time.
813
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,200
- [singing] Here we go!
- Here we go!
814
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,760
Let's jump to the front and back
815
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,040
We're gonna jump to the front and back
816
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,360
[Greg] Back in Australia,
we were in the studio recording
817
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,920
and saw the news.
818
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,120
[Murray] The TV was on,
and it had just happened.
819
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,600
[Greg] And it was just like, "What
on earth is going on? This is crazy."
820
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:32,920
The devastation. I mean...
821
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,600
It was just...
822
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,680
Yeah, totally incomprehensible.
823
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,520
[Paul] New York was attacked.
824
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,240
We had a tour lined up
825
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,120
of North America
and the East Coast, you know.
826
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,280
And we were going
to two of the places that were hit,
827
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,080
Washington and New York City.
828
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,520
There was real concern.
829
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,680
[Greg] At a time when there's been
such a scale of devastation,
830
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,760
not knowing if they were actually wanting
831
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,480
The Wiggles to be there,
singing and dancing?
832
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,840
You know, it was a little bit like,
"Is this the right time?"
833
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,280
But we got so much feedback
from fans saying,
834
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,000
"If ever there was a time
when we need you, it's now."
835
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,400
This is Brian Cannizzaro,
836
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,200
and he was a firefighter
in Red Hook, Brooklyn.
837
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,000
Brian Cannizzaro was a firefighter
who responded.
838
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,760
[Paul] Brian was getting people out.
839
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,800
[sirens wailing in distance]
840
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:42,640
[Jackie] I remember
saying goodbye to him and...
841
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,200
[emotionally] saying "Be careful"
and "I love you."
842
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,040
Which is what I always said.
843
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,560
And that was the last thing
that I said to him.
844
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:02,120
You can only imagine the public death
of your husband, you know?
845
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,240
And they replayed it, and replayed it,
and replayed it,
846
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,600
as they did here in Australia.
847
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,000
[somber music playing]
848
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,160
[Jackie] That was truly the darkest time.
849
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,080
My priority was Christopher and...
850
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,600
That he was okay. He was only
ten-and-a-half months at the time.
851
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,840
[The Wiggles: "The Monkey Dance"]
852
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,280
I was like, "It's The Wiggles.
853
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,280
The Wiggles will play all day, every day."
854
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,720
[sniffles]
The Wiggles brought us this...
855
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,320
[inhales] This light.
856
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,000
This light.
857
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,800
[exhales]
858
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,720
[faintly] Sorry.
859
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,960
As it turned out, it was the right time,
860
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,800
and people appreciated the fact
that we would go there,
861
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,160
that we would bring that joy
and positivity back to New York.
862
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,800
["Get Ready to Wiggle"
instrumental playing]
863
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,160
[Greg] Hello, everybody! Hello!
864
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,800
[Jackie] I mustered up the energy to go.
865
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,360
I remember seeing Chris's face
look at them,
866
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,040
wondering how these guys
got from our TV every day,
867
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,840
and now we were seeing them live.
868
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,920
We got to meet The Wiggles after the show,
869
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,680
and what sticks out to me most
870
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,480
is their compassion, their empathy.
871
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,920
I was crying with them.
872
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,880
I was hugging them.
873
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,960
And I remember talking about Brian,
874
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,000
and I think we sat there
for hours after the show.
875
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,160
[soft music playing]
876
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,280
That's one family.
877
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,320
And to meet one family
who had been affected by this tragedy,
878
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,520
it just impacted everybody
in such a profound way.
879
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,760
[marching band playing]
880
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,600
And that was the first year
we did the Thanksgiving Day parade,
881
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,000
which was also, like, pretty overwhelming.
882
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,120
[Paul] You know, I remember
being there and looking up,
883
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,920
there were snipers on the roof,
there were helicopters going over.
884
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,400
It was pretty serious vibe.
885
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,600
Ahoy there, me hearties!
From the Jolly Polly pirate ship. [laughs]
886
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,160
[Paddy] What was incredible was
the police that were walking alongside.
887
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:14,920
And they were like, "Yeah, Wiggles."
888
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,600
[on radio] Hot potato, hot potato
889
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,760
[officer] My son loves you guys.
My daughter loves you guys.
890
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,520
{\an8}[singing] Lights, camera, action
891
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,720
Wiggles!
892
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,320
Welcome to our TV show
893
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,120
[Murray] And they got us
on Disney Channel in America.
894
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,720
And we were like this
and we just went, pshhh...
895
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,120
Lights, camera, action
896
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,600
[Greg] It was a wild ride.
It was incredible.
897
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,680
...our TV show
898
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,960
To see your name up in lights
in front of Madison Square Garden.
899
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,680
It's a legendary venue.
900
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,680
We sold it out,
it's either 12 or 13 times,
901
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,520
so that's just phenomenal.
902
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,400
This event has created
such a stir in Hollywood.
903
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,560
Executives all over town
are calling in, saying,
904
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,960
"You've got to get me into the party."
905
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,200
[man] ...for my friends, The Wiggles!
906
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,200
[audience cheering]
907
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,360
[Jeff] People on the floor says,
908
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,240
"John Travolta wants to meet you."
909
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,520
He comes into the green room
going, "Hot potato, hot pot..."
910
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,280
[audience laughing]
911
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,000
And we put out our hand out to shake.
912
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,280
He said, "That won't do,"
and gave us all a big hug.
913
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,400
[audience laughing]
914
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,200
[host] You are the coolest guys
in the world.
915
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,240
[audience laughing]
916
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,120
Mashed potaytoes, mashed potahtos
Potaytoes
917
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,080
Potaytoes, potaytoes, potahtos.
918
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,920
Then, you know,
you have coming to your gigs,
919
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,120
Robert De Niro.
920
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,640
He was just in the audience,
921
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:28,800
and he was eating the popcorn,
and it was straight out of Cape Fear.
922
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,960
- You know, when he goes to the movies?
- [all laughing]
923
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,240
Every time Jeff would walk by,
he's going, "Are you seeing this?"
924
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,840
{\an8}[audience laughing]
925
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,240
{\an8}[Greg] Many incredibly famous celebrities
come along
926
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,760
because of their child's connection
to The Wiggles.
927
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:44,560
They're precious memories.
928
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,600
It's a precious time of your life.
929
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,080
Wiggles rule!
930
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,040
[crowd cheering]
931
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,440
[man] Bye, Wiggles! Say goodbye!
932
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,720
BRW had you at $14 million
in 2001 on the Rich List.
933
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,800
Turnover.
934
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,720
Is that right?
935
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,280
- Oh, I don't know.
- Pretty good.
936
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,080
[Murray] I think the sort
of attention we got
937
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,520
about how successful
financially The Wiggles was,
938
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,160
I think it kind of rankled
a little bit just because,
939
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,520
for a while there,
that's what the story became.
940
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,120
There was an underlying suggestion
that there was something wrong
941
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,040
about making a lot of money
from performing for kids,
942
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,040
but I don't think they realized
how much work that we do.
943
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,640
It's not like we're selling drugs,
you know? [chuckles]
944
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:25,400
What we're selling people is
something positive that makes them happy.
945
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,840
The show was awesome.
946
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,240
He's crying because The Wiggles are gone.
947
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,840
There were fights for tickets,
948
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,520
[Meg Washington: "Do the Monkey"]
949
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,720
[man] The Wiggles have been named
950
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,440
Australian Entertainment's
Top Earners for 2005,
951
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,160
with gross earnings of $50 million.
952
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:47,960
They again topped the BRW list,
which includes the rock band AC/DC.
953
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,280
All of a sudden,
we were doing 10,000-seat arenas
954
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,280
and these massive ice hockey places.
[chuckles]
955
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,080
[singing] Do the monkey
956
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,320
Do the monkey
957
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,400
That's all right
958
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,000
[Anthony] Touring America,
you know, we slept on the buses.
959
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,360
We were away for nine months a year,
three months at a time.
960
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,280
Sometimes we'd have 300,000 people
see us in that time, three times a year.
961
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,840
{\an8}It was a real rock-and-roll lifestyle
962
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,560
without actually being
in the rock-and-roll business.
963
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,080
[singing] Jump to the back
Jump to the front
964
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,560
{\an8}[Anthony] We had a great time.
965
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,520
Don't get me wrong, all of us together,
playing sold-out shows.
966
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,240
And we'd party, too.
967
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,560
We're young guys.
968
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,960
[song ends]
969
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,280
Do you ever get single mums
trying to make a move?
970
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,320
[audience chuckling]
971
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,440
[audience applauds]
972
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,400
[Lucia Field] When I was younger,
I couldn't really connect that
973
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,120
{\an8}Anthony and my dad
were the same person,
974
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,560
{\an8}so I used to get a little confused.
975
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,400
I was like, "What are they doing
with my dad on TV?
976
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,280
Like, what is going on?"
977
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,480
The kids have been
well looked after, good schools,
978
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,120
lovely house, all that stuff.
979
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:03,920
But, on the other side,
980
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,280
you know, they've had a dad
who hasn't been home for a lot of it.
981
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,040
As soon as he'd come home,
he'd be home for that time,
982
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,400
and we get to hang out with him.
983
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,320
We'd, you know, have some time together,
and then he'd be off again.
984
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,160
[indistinct conversation]
985
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:19,480
[Anthony] Miki had the three kids.
986
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,840
Antonio was a baby.
987
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,600
Hello, Daddy.
988
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:25,880
- [Maria] I say...
- [Anthony] Maria was probably two.
989
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,120
I... Dad. [indistinct]
990
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Hey, Luci.
991
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,560
[Anthony] Lucia just
absolutely loved Dorothy.
992
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,480
Hey.
993
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,560
What about Luci?
994
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,520
Have fun.
995
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,880
- Bye-bye, Daddy.
- Have you got a rose for Dorothy?
996
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,800
I do have a favorite Wiggles song,
and it's a Dorothy song.
997
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,800
I remember just wanting to play it
over and over and over again.
998
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,560
[gasps] "Sing With Me"!
999
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:49,520
"Sing With Me," Dorothy the Dinosaur.
1000
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,600
[Dorothy singing]
Sing along with me everybody
1001
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,920
Sing with me, sing with me
1002
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,320
To this pretty little melody
1003
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,480
Sing with me, sing with me
1004
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,960
Sing along with Dorothy
1005
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,040
[chuckles]
1006
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,480
I loved Dorothy because she did ballet.
1007
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,080
Um, I only recently found out
that Dorothy started doing ballet
1008
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,000
because I was doing ballet.
1009
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,840
He saw how much I loved dance
and incorporated that into Dorothy.
1010
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,640
[lively piano music playing]
1011
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:22,400
[Anthony] The first tour I went to,
when she was just over six-weeks old,
1012
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,480
probably, today, I would have stayed
and sent someone else.
1013
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,920
I was away so much.
1014
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,800
There was no balance in life.
1015
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,960
[crowd cheering]
1016
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,040
We're gonna do a song that Murray wrote.
1017
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,280
[The Wiggles: "I Love It When It Rains"]
1018
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,080
[singing]
I love it when it rains
1019
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,720
{\an8}And I lie in bed at night
1020
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,200
{\an8}I listen to it patter
1021
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,400
On the roof soft and light
1022
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,240
But then a storm may...
1023
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,720
[Murray] My wife and I were married
before The Wiggles.
1024
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,080
I sometimes felt, you know,
she didn't really sign on for this.
1025
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,840
[singing]
...and I see the lightning flash
1026
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,440
Going to America, we'd go
for about six weeks at a time,
1027
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,840
and it was just, like, heart-wrenching
when you had to leave.
1028
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,400
[singing]
And I sink down in my bed
1029
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,400
I close my eyes so tight
1030
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,040
And pull the covers over my head
1031
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,800
[Greg] My kids probably said
from time to time,
1032
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,400
"Dad, I wish you could be there for this
or can you be there for that?"
1033
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,120
And it's really hard when they ask you,
1034
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,640
and the answer has to be,
"No, I'm sorry, I can't."
1035
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,160
[Murray] Hamish used to dress
1036
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:24,520
as Captain Feathersword
constantly for a while.
1037
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,880
There was a point where
he did say one time,
1038
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,160
"I don't like music,"
and Meg said to him, "Why not?"
1039
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:33,560
And, um, he said,
"Because that's what takes Daddy away."
1040
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,040
And that was kind of a bit...
[chuckles sadly]
1041
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,840
You know, pretty heart-wrenching.
1042
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,360
[Greg] In my mind, it was always
a matter of, "Well, this is my job.
1043
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,640
If I don't commit to The Wiggles,
1044
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,320
I can't continue to support
the family in this way."
1045
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,400
That was hard, and undoubtedly
had an effect on relationships.
1046
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,200
And, in some people's minds,
1047
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,360
perhaps making other people's
children happy
1048
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,320
in preference to being there
for your own family.
1049
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,960
[singing]
I love it when it rains
1050
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,600
As I lie in bed at night
1051
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,440
[crowd cheering]
1052
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:17,240
[indistinct chatter]
1053
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,840
{\an8}During the shows,
The Wiggles usually go out
1054
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,600
{\an8}to the audience to say hello
to as many people as they can.
1055
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,800
Murray would always be the last Wiggle
to come back on stage
1056
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,240
because you could see
he was trying to get every child
1057
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,160
that he possibly could to say hello
and he'd go right to the top.
1058
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,200
And we found that,
with a lot of the sick children, too,
1059
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,400
that it was for the family
as much as for the child themselves.
1060
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,880
You know, I can't imagine
what the parents were going through,
1061
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,960
you know, knowing that
they're going to lose this child.
1062
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,760
Little Jakey is terminally ill,
and, ever since he's been born
1063
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,160
and able to follow The Wiggles, he has,
and we've supported him a lot,
1064
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:02,920
and we've been converted, too,
by all The Wiggles stuff.
1065
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,640
Bernadette was Paul's daughter,
1066
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:10,560
and Pauline's.
1067
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,080
Uh, Bernadette passed away
at ten months from SIDS.
1068
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,000
The Cockroaches were on tour at the time.
1069
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,880
I remember hearing this scream
1070
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,560
from a room that I haven't heard before.
1071
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:27,960
It was a guttural scream.
1072
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,000
Uh, and I thought, "What's happened?"
1073
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:36,360
Paul had run home,
found out that Bernadette had passed away.
1074
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,160
[Paul] And my world kind of
came to an end, in some ways.
1075
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,000
I'm now 61, you know?
1076
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,520
It happened in 1988. It's that far.
1077
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,960
[indistinct]
1078
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,400
[shudders] And, um...
1079
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,920
So, you know, we sought help.
1080
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,000
[Anthony] Paul was never
the same, of course,
1081
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,960
and the fun went out
of three-chord rock and roll.
1082
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,240
That's when I went to Early Childhood,
and The Wiggles came from that.
1083
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,240
[Paul] You know, it's one of the factors
as to why The Wiggles existed,
1084
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,360
so I love that fact.
1085
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,400
There's a real connection
with her and life, children, joy.
1086
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,880
There are times
when I'd go to a hospital
1087
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,240
as a sign of respect
to the parents that are there.
1088
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,280
[Anthony] It's great to see you all.
We're The Wiggles.
1089
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,040
Having lost a child,
it means the world to them.
1090
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,840
How you going there? Hello.
1091
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:25,960
-Hi
-Hi.
1092
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,080
- [Anthony] We'd like to sing a song...
- [Greg] Yeah.
1093
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,440
If you can bring any sort of happy memory
for that sort of dark time,
1094
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,360
I think that's...
1095
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,200
You know, we're really privileged
to be able to do that.
1096
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,280
[Greg] We're on our way to the hotel.
1097
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,680
Tomorrow morning, though,
1098
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,680
we're on our way out
to the Great Wall of China,
1099
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,240
which should be very, very interesting.
1100
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,120
[indistinct conversation]
1101
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,720
[Greg] The Wiggles have been touring
every single year.
1102
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,520
And that tour, I'm talking week
after week after week after week
1103
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,240
after week after week
after month after month,
1104
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,240
relentlessly touring.
1105
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,680
[cameraman] Okay, we're rolling.
1106
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:04,920
In the early days,
when we did 21 days in a row,
1107
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,720
obviously we would
get on each other's nerves.
1108
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,040
Uh, we have a soundcheck at 1:00.
1109
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,200
[Anthony, chuckling]
One time, before a show,
1110
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,440
I was on the drums and I was playing
tin whistle behind a curtain.
1111
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,080
Greg came up to me and said,
1112
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,920
"You can hear your drums
and your whistle in the audience."
1113
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,840
"Right, okay.
1114
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,840
Greg, do you want to see a drum roll?"
1115
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,480
And I picked up the drum kit
and I threw it.
1116
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,200
[Greg] Anthony and I have an issue
going back with water.
1117
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,600
We were literally about to go on stage.
I had to put on my yellow shirt.
1118
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,120
Somebody had spilled water on it.
1119
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,600
[Anthony] This is before going on
in front of 80,000 people in the audience
1120
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:45,920
and worldwide audience.
1121
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,880
And I thought, "Must be Anthony."
1122
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,880
And Greg really had a go at me.
1123
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,240
"Damn, my shirt. I can't go on stage
with a wet shirt now.
1124
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,440
Anthony, you've done this."
1125
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,880
"No, no, no, I didn't do it."
1126
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,640
"Must have been you.
Who else would have done it?"
1127
00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:59,280
And then the curtains open
and now we go on stage singing...
1128
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,800
[both singing] Christmas memories
1129
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,760
Christmas memories
1130
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,280
{\an8}Special moments that we're thinking of
1131
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,160
If you see Greg, will you tell him
I didn't do the water?
1132
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,840
[indistinct chatter]
1133
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,680
[Paul] No one's as close as a band member
1134
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,000
when you're touring
hundreds of shows a year.
1135
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,440
Everyone has their moments.
1136
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,160
But, you know, Anthony
might get upset about something.
1137
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:26,000
Thinking, "Jeez, that's more than normally
that would result in."
1138
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,720
[man] Um, favorite children's performer
and why?
1139
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,720
Do I have to do it now?
1140
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,400
- [man] Oh, no.
- [Anthony laughs]
1141
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,640
- Sorry...
- I've only got 20 minutes...
1142
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,240
I remember the first time
when I was on the road in England,
1143
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,640
and I just was bursting
into tears backstage.
1144
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,600
[Murray] I just said to him,
"What's wrong?"
1145
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:45,800
and he said "Nothing."
1146
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,040
People didn't really talk
about mental health much in the '90s.
1147
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,120
I knew people had depression
and stuff like that,
1148
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,920
but I didn't really know
what it looked like
1149
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,320
because people tended to hide it.
1150
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,280
[music playing]
1151
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,320
[music stops]
1152
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,240
[man] Cut. Perfect.
1153
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,200
All right.
1154
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,800
[Anthony] I remember
talking to my brother,
1155
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,040
one of my brothers, and I told him,
"I just feel sad all the time."
1156
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,120
He said, "What do you got
to be sad about?
1157
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,280
If you're successful and, you know,
you've got all the comforts,
1158
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,360
what's wrong with you?"
1159
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,000
You know? But I said to him,
"Mate, it's not like that. It's like...
1160
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,280
I know I've got it... I understand,
I'm grateful for my life,
1161
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,200
but it's just, I'm not feeling this."
1162
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,040
[Jeff] I really didn't know what to do.
1163
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,560
It made me feel very churned up inside.
1164
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,200
It was very confronting.
1165
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,080
[Anthony] I didn't want to talk about it,
but Paul, my brother,
1166
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,040
said it might help people
if you come out and talk about it.
1167
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,360
[Paul] I just thought
it was actually good for him
1168
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,520
to be open about it
and say, "I've got a problem,"
1169
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,480
because then you understand.
1170
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,200
[man] Well, you may not know this,
but that guy right there,
1171
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,040
Blue Wiggle Anthony Field,
has been fighting a few personal demons.
1172
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,640
[woman] Anthony has
overcome clinical depression,
1173
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:54,640
a life threatening illness
and chronic pain.
1174
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:57,640
But I never wanted to be the spokesperson
for mental health
1175
00:49:57,720 --> 00:49:59,520
because it's real personal.
1176
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,480
[Anthony] I thought
I was such a burden on everyone.
1177
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,360
I got my own dressing room,
put in this bar, put music on it,
1178
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,160
and I would go in there,
so I wasn't bothering anybody.
1179
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:11,200
So, really, on the road,
I made myself even lonelier
1180
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,600
because I'd just stick to myself.
1181
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,200
I thought, "No one wants to talk
to me anyway."
1182
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,920
When Anthony came out,
making it publicly known
1183
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,120
that he has these issues
with mental health,
1184
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,240
that gave me a much better understanding
of what he'd been going through.
1185
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,240
{\an8}Is this every day?
1186
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,040
{\an8}It's every day. The thoughts aren't,
1187
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,440
"I'm just feeling down."
1188
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,160
This is thoughts of, you know,
"I want to harm myself.
1189
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,320
- I'm not worthy of living in this world."
- Okay.
1190
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,080
"I don't fit anywhere.
1191
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,840
[fading]
Uh, you know, nobody likes me.
1192
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,200
I don't like myself."
1193
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,440
[Anthony] My dad helped me.
1194
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,560
He got me to see someone who
I've been seeing for 35 years now.
1195
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,600
[Greg] Understanding Anthony a lot more,
1196
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,320
I look back now and I think, "My God,
1197
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:57,200
without Anto's creative genius
and his desire to try things
1198
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,200
that were a little bit out there,
a little bit different,
1199
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,560
The Wiggles would not have
tried many, many things."
1200
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,520
[bagpipes playing]
1201
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,040
Well, the bagpipes...
1202
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,760
When I was in the army,
uh, I was a rifleman
1203
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:13,080
and a piper because we played at
all the funerals and ceremonial parades.
1204
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,200
[playing bagpipes]
1205
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,800
I got tattoos. [chuckles]
1206
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,560
This one here is
the Royal Australian Regiment.
1207
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,000
I think my tattoos tell the story of me.
1208
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:28,880
I've got a jester on my chest
because I do feel like that sometimes.
1209
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,960
I feel for jesters.
1210
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,360
I think, what a job,
1211
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,600
jesters being paid to be funny
when you don't feel like it.
1212
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,040
When I'm on stage, it's my happy place.
1213
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,160
It's where I want to be.
1214
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,560
Playing music, that's it.
1215
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,040
[stops playing]
1216
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,960
Just prior to your holiday break,
there was rumors that "Greg the Wiggle,
1217
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,840
{\an8}Yellow Wiggle collapses
during a performance."
1218
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:52,840
{\an8}What happened?
1219
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,040
Oh, nothing really
that dramatic at all, Ryan,
1220
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,400
I'm sorry to spoil the story
but no, no, no.
1221
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:02,560
Um, I, it was, you know, having a bit
short of breath and dizziness, and...
1222
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:03,680
[Jeff] He collapsed.
1223
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,120
[all laughing]
1224
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,160
When SARS had hit Hong Kong,
Greg collapsed.
1225
00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:14,720
The Chinese officials
thought that he had SARS,
1226
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,520
and then they carted him off.
1227
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,080
And we were left there,
about to go on stage,
1228
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,680
and we went, "Will we ever see him again?"
1229
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,120
[Greg] I remember doing a stress test
and being on the treadmill.
1230
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,920
And they said, "Yep, no problems at all."
1231
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,120
Unfortunately, everyone,
Greg's not with us.
1232
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,080
He's had to stay at home with his family.
1233
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,040
But we've got a great friend here
who's been filling in.
1234
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,520
This is Sam, everyone.
1235
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:36,920
And Sam's been doing a great job.
1236
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,120
Let's give him a big clap.
1237
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,040
Hi, everybody.
1238
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,160
[singing]
Now play your guitar with Murray
1239
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:43,400
{\an8}Play your guitar with him
1240
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,840
[Greg] It kind of happened again,
1241
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,120
and it got to a point
where it was happening
1242
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,320
and was a concern because
nobody could tell me why it was happening.
1243
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,640
They're testing for epilepsy,
they're testing for diabetes,
1244
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:56,600
they're testing for neurological problems,
you name it.
1245
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,640
- Welcome back.
- Thank you.
1246
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,200
- He might have an accident.
- Yeah.
1247
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,640
[all laughing]
1248
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,320
So I'd always try and do the shows
when I could, because I loved them.
1249
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,840
[song playing] Yummy, yummy
1250
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,680
[mouthing along]
Yummy, yummy fruit salad!
1251
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,720
[Anthony] Jump up.
1252
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,280
Made it, it's time to eat it.
1253
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,200
Uh, huh, huh!
1254
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,840
It tastes so good
1255
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,280
That you just can't beat it
1256
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,200
Uh, huh, huh!
1257
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,080
[Murray] Say hello to Peggy.
1258
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,720
- [groaning] Hello.
- [Murray] Hello.
1259
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,640
[Paddy] And then it got to the point
where it got more frequent
1260
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:28,280
and it would last a bit longer.
1261
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,440
But he was such a trooper, you know.
He'd just come out and do the next show.
1262
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,840
Three more tomorrow.
1263
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,760
We'll get there.
1264
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:35,840
Whew.
1265
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,400
[Anthony] At the time, we had Sam
or we had Brett Clarke, Ryan De Saulnier.
1266
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,200
They were all Greg's understudies.
1267
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,120
So one of them would go on stage
at, honestly, 30 seconds' notice.
1268
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:49,960
[Sam Moran] I remember Greg being
at the front of the stage
1269
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,960
and me being in the back of the stage,
1270
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,840
{\an8}and Greg looking over
and just catching my eye
1271
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,480
{\an8}and nodding to me,
and him leaving the stage.
1272
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,800
And so I would just slot into wherever
he was and continue the song,
1273
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,880
mid-song.
1274
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,440
[Greg] I was going through
personal struggles as well.
1275
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,560
That's when I separated
from my first wife,
1276
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,360
and that was compounding
the health issues, unfortunately.
1277
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,640
[Sam] We did meet-and-greets.
1278
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:19,840
And there was one moment that I caught him
as he fainted,
1279
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,600
I mean, in front of the children.
1280
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,440
Yellow Wiggle Greg Page
is suffering a mystery illness
1281
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,080
that's kept him from touring
with the children's supergroup.
1282
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,040
{\an8}[Kelly Ripa]
Here's The Wiggles performing...
1283
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,760
- [Regis Philbin] The Wiggles are here!
- [audience cheering]
1284
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,520
Greg's a little bit sick,
so he's at home recuperating.
1285
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,200
- [Kelly] Oh, you're gonna fill in for him.
- I am indeed.
1286
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,280
Oh, terrific.
Well, it's great to see you.
1287
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,440
Thank you. It's great to be here.
1288
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,120
Wiggles are appearing at the Garden,
1289
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,520
- Madison Square Garden, this weekend.
- I know all about it.
1290
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,200
Two weeks into that tour,
they had gotten word
1291
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,440
that Greg had gotten an actual diagnosis.
1292
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,560
The condition that I had, or still have,
1293
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,760
a condition called
orthostatic intolerance,
1294
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,080
which is a function of dysautonomia.
1295
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,320
He couldn't perform.
1296
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,400
He really couldn't, right?
And we knew what it was.
1297
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,920
And as for what the prognosis was,
we didn't know.
1298
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,360
And I didn't want to hold the guys back.
1299
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,880
There were deals that needed to be signed
1300
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,120
and I had to make a decision
one way or the other.
1301
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,360
And, at that time,
that's what needed to happen.
1302
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,560
[somber music playing]
1303
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,120
[woman] Well, sad news today,
1304
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,360
{\an8}with Greg Page quitting The Wiggles
because of poor health.
1305
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,000
{\an8}Best known as the Yellow Wiggle,
1306
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,720
{\an8}Greg says he can no longer sing
and dance like he used to.
1307
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,080
{\an8}The announcement, a blow to his millions
of young fans around the world.
1308
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,040
Get well soon, Greg.
1309
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,080
Get well, Greg.
1310
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,440
Get well, Greg.
1311
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,400
- Do you think he's going to be okay?
- Yep.
1312
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:42,280
When Greg resigned, we were discussing
whether or not we were going to go on.
1313
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,200
So, um, yeah, the decision was
1314
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,600
to continue on
with different personnel, so...
1315
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,560
[Sam] Anthony came knocking on the door
1316
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,800
and he said, "We'd love if you would
think about taking over."
1317
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:00,880
And ultimately gave them the word
that I would love to take the opportunity.
1318
00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:04,800
[man] Okay, Sam,
so it's a hard phase ahead, but it's...
1319
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,880
- I understand what you're saying.
- We're not...
1320
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,640
- Okay.
- [all chuckling]
1321
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:10,080
[man] It's a nice gentle there
1322
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,760
Yeah, look, I think that was
one of those things that was hard to do.
1323
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,800
And basically it means
that when I stand up,
1324
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,720
my body doesn't pump enough blood or...
1325
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,360
Oh... Not my body, my heart.
1326
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,280
- Jesus.
- [man] Still rolling?
1327
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:24,880
In the times that I have been unwell
1328
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,320
and unable to perform
because of this condition,
1329
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,880
Sam's been doing a great job
filling in for me
1330
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:30,960
wearing the yellow skivvy.
1331
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,680
So, Sam, right now, I'm going to
officially hand over the yellow skivvy
1332
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,280
to the new Yellow Wiggle, Sam Moran.
1333
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:39,600
Thanks, Greg.
1334
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:41,960
[man] And cut. Well done.
1335
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,360
It was a bit clumsy there with the hand.
1336
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,120
- Is that all right?
- [man 2] No, it was good.
1337
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:47,720
[Paul] That was surfing the zeitgeist.
1338
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,640
It was as big in pop culture
as it could be.
1339
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,360
It was on the front page
of The New York Times.
1340
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,200
And, I'm not joking, and with all respect
to Australian Prime Ministers,
1341
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,160
I don't know many that get on
the front page, right?
1342
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:03,120
In America, you gotta be eaten
by a shark or disappear.
1343
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,480
That shows how mammoth they were.
1344
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,160
The change was big on every level.
1345
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,320
[camera shutters clicking]
1346
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,440
It's very emotional.
1347
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,560
Been very surreal, too, that Greg's
not going to be with us after this.
1348
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:16,480
Very sad.
1349
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,080
He sort of left the business side as well,
and we bought him out
1350
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,440
and, um, he went on the journey
to get well.
1351
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:25,720
Yeah.
1352
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,960
Hi, everybody. It's Sam Wiggle here.
1353
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:32,920
We're in New York.
1354
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:33,960
Good day, USA.
1355
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,240
We just came from LA,
1356
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,160
and now we're in New York,
and it's really cold. [laughs]
1357
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,760
Please welcome Anthony Murray, Jeff
and the newest member of the group, Sam.
1358
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,280
- Wow.
- You've been touring around America,
1359
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,600
- I understand?
- Yep.
1360
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,320
To sold-out crowds everywhere.
1361
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,280
It's been wonderful.
1362
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:54,000
I guess it felt like my three mates
that we started this thing together with
1363
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,400
were going off now without me.
1364
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,800
It was like another separation, I guess.
1365
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,280
And it was... That was tough.
1366
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,920
[squealing]
1367
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,400
How bad she knows your name?
1368
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:04,680
[Sam] You wanna take a picture?
1369
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,720
[all chuckling]
1370
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,440
- Mommy, I just saw The Wiggles!
- [girls laughing]
1371
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,760
- Jeff and Murray!
- Anthony,
1372
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,520
I saw The Wiggles and Jeff.
1373
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,400
[singing]
Ooo ooo doo doo doo
1374
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,080
{\an8}[Sam] Greg's voice was always
a little bit lower than mine.
1375
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,600
The first song that I really
felt like was my own,
1376
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,880
that really hit with the audience,
was probably "The Shimmie Shake!"
1377
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,240
{\an8}[singing]
The shimmie shake
1378
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:28,640
{\an8}Shake it all way...
1379
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,800
{\an8}And it wasn't me copying the way
somebody else had sung another song.
1380
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,600
...high!
1381
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,680
Shimmie, shimmie, shimmie
1382
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:37,840
Shimmie, shimmie, shimmie
1383
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,880
To me, I feel like it's a very
intuitive process, being a Wiggle.
1384
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,240
Certainly, the group always
shunned talks of market research.
1385
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,000
We have our own focus group
of thousands of kids every day.
1386
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,800
[singing]
Ooo ooo doo doo doo
1387
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,880
And the other guys realized
that they needed the larger world
1388
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,360
that incorporates all those
extra characters,
1389
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,720
like The Dorothy the Dinosaur Show.
1390
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:01,800
Oh, gosh.
1391
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,480
{\an8}[man speaking indistinctly]
1392
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:04,480
{\an8}[gasps]
1393
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,120
{\an8}- [man] Yes, hello.
- Hello.
1394
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,840
{\an8}- [man] Say your name.
- Hi, my name is Emma Watkins.
1395
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:11,760
[chuckles softly]
1396
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,080
[man] Good. Here we go.
1397
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,880
Oh, John the Cook, don't worry.
1398
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,880
I told Dorothy you were arriving
with her special case.
1399
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,040
- [chuckling]
- She will be here any second now.
1400
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,480
- [man] Beautiful.
- [crew clapping]
1401
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,320
[Emma] I was auditioning
for a ballet dancing fairy
1402
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:27,800
on The Dorothy the Dinosaur Show,
1403
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,440
which was a sister show
to The Wiggle show at the time.
1404
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,520
Four months later, I got called to join
The Wiggle show as a Wiggle dancer.
1405
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:43,000
And, at that point, I thought,
"This is the highlight of my entire life."
1406
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,400
Because I grew up
with the original Wiggles,
1407
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,720
they were like mythical celebrities
from my childhood
1408
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,400
that were remaining in my brain
as my childhood memory.
1409
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:59,000
In '92, '93, and '94,
it wasn't that extravagant then,
1410
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,360
and so I was really shocked
1411
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,440
that a children's show
could be so spectacular.
1412
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:04,840
[audience cheering]
1413
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,200
[Simon Pryce] The Wiggle show
at the time was very circus-y
1414
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,400
{\an8}and they asked if I'd come on
and be the ringmaster of the circus.
1415
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,840
I came from a theater world
or opera world,
1416
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,760
and, for about the next year,
I ended up touring with them.
1417
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,880
[singing] We will sing along with Dorothy
1418
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,560
This dinosaur melody
1419
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,280
Let's have a dance.
1420
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:24,760
Dance with me, dance...
1421
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,680
[Caterina Mete] Anthony's the brainchild
behind all the developments in the show.
1422
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,160
We got into circus training.
1423
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,080
Right here,
1424
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,720
when she dives and then we'll...
We're going over here.
1425
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:34,840
That is brilliant.
1426
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,320
[Caterina] So we were learning
all these circus tricks.
1427
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,520
Like I learned how to do trapeze
and others were doing
1428
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,160
flips and trampolining.
1429
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,960
And, at the time, The Wiggles were getting
involved in the circus training.
1430
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,040
[all cheering]
1431
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:53,680
[Sam] Because I was scared of heights,
1432
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,880
standing on the trapeze
was well and truly enough
1433
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,960
of a circus skill for me to have overcome.
[chuckles]
1434
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:06,160
Anthony, to his credit, is entirely
focused on improving the live show.
1435
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,960
[Anthony] I think the psychology
of The Wiggles
1436
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,000
has been like a football team.
1437
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:15,400
[all] Hey!
1438
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,400
And what I mean by the team,
not just the four,
1439
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,920
it really takes everybody.
1440
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,240
[Anthony] So if you're up there,
don't look to each other.
1441
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,400
[indistinct] So work it out
before you get up there.
1442
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,840
[Anthony] We are adults,
1443
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,320
and adults can have different ways
of looking at things.
1444
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,840
The rainbows, they are fantastic.
1445
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,760
Murray, when you go through the tunnel,
don't go backwards into it.
1446
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,360
Sometimes you've got a team
that's not pulling in the same direction
1447
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,280
and the creativity dries up a little bit.
1448
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,840
Well, the original Yellow Wiggle is back.
1449
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,920
Greg Page has reunited with his mates
1450
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,480
five years after he left the group
due to illness.
1451
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,720
[man] That created
a rather wiggly situation for Sam,
1452
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,520
who, it appears, was simply dumped.
1453
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,760
That was a really rough time. Yep.
1454
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:01,320
Uh, that changeover period.
Because I was coming back
1455
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,600
because Sam wasn't gonna be continuing on,
1456
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,480
and it wasn't portrayed that way
in the media.
1457
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,440
But with Greg in, that means
his replacement, Sam Moran, is out.
1458
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,600
{\an8}I've had five years to come to terms
with the diagnosis,
1459
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,760
{\an8}and what it means for me, and manage it,
and I'm back on top of it.
1460
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,520
{\an8}Was this always part of the plan?
To return?
1461
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,120
{\an8}No, no, it wasn't always
part of the plan at all.
1462
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:29,160
It ended up becoming that
Greg wanted back in and pushed Sam out,
1463
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,040
and that just wasn't the case.
1464
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,120
Then there was
the whole thing with Anthony
1465
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,080
having said something
that, again, was taken the wrong way.
1466
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,400
{\an8}Okay, so you're back.
1467
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,200
{\an8}I guess the $64,000 question, Anthony,
1468
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:41,600
{\an8}what about Sam?
1469
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:43,440
{\an8}What about Sam?
1470
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,200
{\an8}Sam was, uh...
1471
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,680
{\an8}What do you mean? [chuckles]
1472
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,200
{\an8}- Well, Sam, until yesterday, was a Wiggle.
- Was... Yeah, yeah.
1473
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,520
{\an8}His contract is coming to an end.
1474
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:57,080
I was under the impression
that everything had been sorted out.
1475
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,440
I hadn't even seen the paper
when I get on the Today show.
1476
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,080
{\an8}The newspapers today
are full of speculation about things.
1477
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,160
{\an8}You sure know
how to pull a headline, by the way.
1478
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,760
{\an8}That opened the doors up for accusing,
1479
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,720
I guess, Anthony
of being the person responsible
1480
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,760
when essentially it was a group decision.
1481
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:20,160
I certainly feel a sense of sadness
around how it all ended for me.
1482
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,000
Um...
1483
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:25,680
I've...
1484
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,880
Yeah, that's kind of all
it needs to be, I guess.
1485
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,160
That says it all, right?
1486
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,280
[man] It's quite surprising how badly
1487
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,560
- The Wiggles organization handled this.
- [woman] Yes.
1488
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,400
I know, because they're so good.
1489
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:42,600
- Yeah.
- Aren't they? Usually.
1490
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,040
That was the first time
that we'd experienced
1491
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,280
a sense of backlash
and a sense of public discontent
1492
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,000
about The Wiggles,
and that was very hard to navigate that.
1493
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,280
When Greg came back,
I distinctly remember hearing him sing,
1494
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,880
I think it was "Fruit Salad,"
and his voice is just...
1495
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,680
It... There's something special.
1496
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,440
You go into a place which is like
a nostalgic childhood moment.
1497
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:09,360
[crowd cheering]
1498
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,080
[singing] Fruit salad
1499
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,560
Yummy, yummy
1500
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:14,920
Fruit salad
1501
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:16,960
Yummy, yummy
1502
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:18,560
Fruit salad
1503
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:20,840
Yummy, yummy
1504
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,520
Yummy, yummy
Yummy, yummy fruit salad!
1505
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,800
Let's make some fruit salad today
1506
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:28,800
Uh, huh, huh!
1507
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,760
It's fun to do
It's the healthy way
1508
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:32,760
Uh, huh, huh!
1509
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,640
Take all the fruit that you want to eat
1510
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,480
It's gonna be a fruit salad treat!
1511
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,040
The first step
1512
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:42,920
Peel your bananas
1513
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,840
The second step
1514
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,040
Toss in some grapes
1515
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,720
The third step
1516
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,480
Chop up some apples
1517
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,280
Chop up some melons
and put them on your plate
1518
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:56,760
Fruit salad
1519
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:57,680
Yes!
1520
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:58,600
Yummy, yummy
1521
01:04:58,680 --> 01:04:59,520
You got it.
1522
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:00,720
Fruit salad
1523
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,680
Right?
1524
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:02,640
Yummy, yummy
1525
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:04,800
Fruit salad
1526
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:06,360
Yummy, yummy
1527
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,320
Uh-huh.
1528
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:11,200
Yummy, yummy
Yummy, yummy fruit salad!
1529
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:12,240
[Greg] Yeah.
1530
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,280
[crowd cheering]
1531
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,520
[Jeff] Just so I don't doze off again,
can we do an action song
1532
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,800
to get the blood pumping
and the old pacemaker a-tickin'?
1533
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,720
[Greg laughs] Of course we can, Jeff.
1534
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,160
And you can join in, too.
1535
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,720
[Jeff] My heart incident all came about
1536
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,360
when I had a blackout
whilst I was driving,
1537
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,080
and ran into a tree.
1538
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,720
But not with any great velocity.
1539
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:46,960
And it turned out that
my heart had stopped momentarily.
1540
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:53,000
And so it was recommended
that I have a pacemaker implant.
1541
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,240
[Jeff] I will certainly hang in there
for as long as possible.
1542
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:58,840
[man] The Wiggles will go on forever.
1543
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,200
It may be the The Bionic Wiggles.
1544
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,960
[laughing]
1545
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,560
[singing] Up jumped the swagman
1546
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,400
And sprang into the billabong
1547
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:13,080
"You'll never catch me alive," said he
1548
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,760
And back then, you're looking at that
and you think,
1549
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,400
"This is never gonna end,"
but things do end.
1550
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,160
[Murray] The kids were
pretty much grown up.
1551
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,040
My son was doing his HSC,
1552
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,360
or coming up to that.
1553
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,600
I just kind of felt like
I needed to be there.
1554
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:27,680
I hadn't been there enough.
1555
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,920
[singing] Waltzing Matilda
1556
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,480
Some of that precipitated
my decision to stop doing it.
1557
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,400
[Jeff] When the time arrived for Murray
and myself to leave The Wiggles,
1558
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,080
it sort of felt right for us.
1559
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:46,400
[singing]
You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me
1560
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,880
[Greg] In that moment that I found out
that Murray and Jeff were going to retire,
1561
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:53,800
I don't know,
1562
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,880
I guess it was something
I hadn't contemplated
1563
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:00,480
and kind of struck me as, not odd,
but just out of the blue.
1564
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,560
But I wasn't involved in a conversation
with Murray or Jeff
1565
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,560
about them leaving,
1566
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,040
uh, so I turned up
to the board meeting and, uh...
1567
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,600
they all handed their resignation in,
and I was sitting there and...
1568
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,400
"What's going on, guys?"
1569
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,160
[man 1] In the world of showbiz,
1570
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,280
today's bombshell from The Wiggles
is as big as they get.
1571
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,560
[woman] Parents around the country
are facing the difficult task
1572
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,120
of telling their children
that the Wiggles are breaking up.
1573
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,280
[man 2] That's right.
1574
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,840
I firmly believe
Anthony's first thought was,
1575
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,680
"Well, I'm going to keep going."
1576
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,560
I don't think Anthony, for a second,
ever thought that that was time for him
1577
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,680
to hang up the blue skivvy.
1578
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,600
I feel so alive
and so part of The Wiggles.
1579
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,480
It's part of me and I can't give it up.
1580
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:44,440
I want to do it.
1581
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,200
Because they're directors, I also said,
1582
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,080
"Look, I think I can make us successful
as we were."
1583
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,320
I think I kept The Wiggles going
at that meeting.
1584
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,800
Because I think they were going to sell.
1585
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,640
I never got it explained to me.
1586
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,080
I could be wrong there.
1587
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,520
But, uh... Yeah, it wasn't great.
1588
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,560
[woman 1]
Three of the group's original members
1589
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,640
have announced their retirement
after 21 years
1590
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,520
of "Cold spaghetti" and "Hot potatoes."
1591
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:10,360
[woman 2] With Jeff, Murray and Greg
jumping out of the Big Red Car.
1592
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,200
[melancholy music playing]
1593
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,760
{\an8}Anthony pulled me aside and said,
1594
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,560
{\an8}"I have to tell you something.
1595
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,240
{\an8}It's really important.
1596
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,000
We're actually going to be retiring
at the end of the year."
1597
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,000
And this was April, so I thought,
"Wow, this is big."
1598
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,080
But within five minutes, he's like,
"But we've got a new lineup,
1599
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:30,800
and we were just wondering
if you'd like to join it."
1600
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,560
Shivers, and I said,
"You know I don't sing."
1601
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:34,800
And he's like, "No, it's not about that.
1602
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,360
It's about, you know, the personality
1603
01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:38,480
and connecting with children,
and we can see that."
1604
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,480
[Lachlan Gillespie] Emma came to get me
in my dressing room
1605
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,600
{\an8}and just said,
"Anthony wants to speak to you."
1606
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:45,640
{\an8}I'm like, "Okay."
1607
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,040
Oh, no, I could see in Emma's face
1608
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,240
there was something exciting.
1609
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,840
And Anthony was like,
"Look, I'm going to keep going on.
1610
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,240
We'd love to give you the purple and..."
1611
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,080
I said, "Yeah." The rest was like...
1612
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:57,760
Oh, just every emotion.
1613
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,600
[Simon] I always joke
because Murray and I are the same size,
1614
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,040
so I just fit the skivvy.
1615
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,160
"Who have we got
who could fit Murray's pants?
1616
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:07,080
Simon!"
1617
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,480
{\an8}Of course, I just jumped to the idea
and said yes. [laughs]
1618
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,320
[man]
The superstar group has revealed
1619
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,600
three of its members will be replaced,
1620
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,160
and there's a twist.
1621
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:19,760
{\an8}[woman] Meet the new Wiggles,
1622
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,880
{\an8}with a woman to wear
one of the famous skivvies.
1623
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,760
[Lachlan] We were so excited,
but also wondering,
1624
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,320
"What are people going to think?"
1625
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:31,560
{\an8}The shock announcement has many wondering
if Wiggle shuffle will work,
1626
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,520
or if the wheels are falling off
the Big Red Car.
1627
01:09:35,480 --> 01:09:38,440
[Anthony] We went out on the road
to half-filled audiences,
1628
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,560
like quarter people, 50 people.
1629
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,200
And all those children didn't know
who The Wiggles were.
1630
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,600
"This is how it is, guys.
1631
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,080
We've got to start again."
1632
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:52,760
So let's ready, steady, Wiggle!
1633
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,800
[Anthony] When we got on television,
we did everything, honestly,
1634
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,320
on the smell of an oily rag.
1635
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,480
[singing] Ready, steady, wiggle
1636
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,080
Emma, Lachy, Simon and Anthony, too
1637
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,720
[Anthony] Emma as cameraperson
for a while, editing the videos.
1638
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,960
I had the guys pretty well improvise
as we went on.
1639
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,880
He knew that this was going
to revolutionize The Wiggles,
1640
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,600
and also take The Wiggles
into that next generation,
1641
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,000
so that enthusiasm was infectious.
1642
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,080
[in Spanish] Hi, everyone!
We're The Wiggles!
1643
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,040
{\an8}[Anthony] We had had female Wiggles before
1644
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,080
{\an8}with the Spanish and Mandarin Wiggles.
1645
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,440
[in Mandarin] Hi, hello everyone,
we're The Wiggles.
1646
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,520
[Anthony] But for people in
English-speaking countries,
1647
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:34,800
we'd never done that.
1648
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:35,960
Everyone was worried.
1649
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:37,960
Oh, no! Dolly!
1650
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:47,840
[Emma] And being the first female
at that time, it was taboo.
1651
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,400
And for me to wear a skirt
and a bow and be dancy,
1652
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:57,120
people felt that that was being
forced upon me in a way that wasn't,
1653
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,120
you know, that was out of my control.
1654
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,320
But when Anthony had asked me
what I wanted to wear, I was like,
1655
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,000
"Oh, it's got to be a skirt.
It's got to be a bow." [laughing]
1656
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,040
So it felt natural to me.
1657
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,480
But people would say things like
1658
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,000
"Wiggles can't be girls."
1659
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:11,560
That was really interesting.
1660
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,400
"Why are you wearing a bow in your hair?
Why are you acting like a child?"
1661
01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:16,480
That's me!
1662
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,960
I think initially I thought that
they were attacking me personally,
1663
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,480
but, you know,
as time grew on, I realized,
1664
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,960
"Oh, no, they're just wanting
to protect that dream in their head."
1665
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,440
[man] Let's starting dancing
with Wagsy.
1666
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,400
[Simon] We didn't want to dwell
on the negative comments
1667
01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:32,720
and we didn't want to ignore them either.
1668
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,400
And there were times that all of us
were a bit upset about certain comments,
1669
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:36,400
and we would talk about it.
1670
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,120
We wanted to support the Wiggles
so that they could continue.
1671
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,160
{\an8}We didn't want it to stop for children.
1672
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,160
{\an8}[all] One, two, three.
1673
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,240
Wake up, Lachy!
1674
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:48,480
[blubbering]
1675
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,960
Thanks, everybody.
Give yourselves a big clap.
1676
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,280
[Jeff] When Emma and Lachy joined,
1677
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,560
it was always that thing about,
1678
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,200
what do we do with
the "Wake Up Jeff!" song? [laughs]
1679
01:11:58,560 --> 01:11:59,800
[singing]
Wake up, Lachy!
1680
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:01,280
Everybody's wiggling
1681
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:02,880
Children responded to that.
1682
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,680
I'd like to think that not as well
as the "Wake Up Jeff!"
1683
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,040
[laughing] But you're doing
a good job, Lachy.
1684
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,240
Wake up, Lachy, before the day is through!
1685
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,600
Would you keep that noise down?
I'm trying to sleep!
1686
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,720
As soon as we started creating new content
and people started getting to know us,
1687
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,560
it was just a shift
that started happening.
1688
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,320
[singing] Simon says
1689
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,440
Put your hands on your cheeks
1690
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,760
Simon says
1691
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,480
Put your hands on your chin
1692
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,840
[Murray] One of the things
that we really were conscious of,
1693
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,840
we didn't want Simon
to come in and be Murray number two.
1694
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,360
Like, we wanted him to be himself.
1695
01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:36,560
...say "Simon says"
1696
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:40,080
- Simon says give yourselves a big clap.
- Yeah.
1697
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,280
[Murray] But to leave something
like that behind is really hard.
1698
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,960
When you're on tour,
you're living it 24/7. Um...
1699
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,200
[singing]
Play your guitar with Murray
1700
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,640
[Murray] And to go from that
to kinda nothing, bit of a shock.
1701
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,400
[singing]
Play your guitar with Murray
1702
01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:56,920
It took a while
to settle into my new life.
1703
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,520
Because so much of my identity
for the 20 years before was,
1704
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:02,760
"Yeah, you're the guy from the Wiggles."
1705
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:07,000
And I think the whole thing did affect
my mental health quite a bit at the time.
1706
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:07,920
Just...
1707
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,760
Uh, it was a bad time. Yeah.
1708
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,560
Hi, I'm Dr. Shaw.
1709
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:18,720
[all] Are you sure?
1710
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:19,800
Sure, I'm Shaw.
1711
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,160
[Anthony] After that first series
went on the air,
1712
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,680
I'd seen it before, it was just, pshhh...
1713
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,800
[singing] We're going up, up, up, up
up, up, up, up, up
1714
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:29,720
And then we stop
1715
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,200
But I knew we had to come up
with the best song we can.
1716
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,400
[singing] Do the propeller
Do the propeller
1717
01:13:35,480 --> 01:13:38,160
I remember Anthony running in
from the studio
1718
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:39,560
and he's like, "Guys, we've got it."
1719
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,480
Do the propeller
Do the propeller
1720
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,240
Don't remember
where the actions came from.
1721
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,320
The actions are just this.
1722
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,240
In Jesus Christ Superstar,
there's a dancer
1723
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:55,320
who does this move like this
and reminded me of a propeller.
1724
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,160
So that's where...
1725
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,640
[The Wiggles: "Do the Propeller!"]
1726
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,360
Do the propeller
Do the propeller
1727
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:06,120
Do the propeller around and around
1728
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,440
We're going up, and up, and up, and up
1729
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,440
We're down down da-down down
da-down down down
1730
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,680
We're going up, up, up, up
up, up, up, up, up
1731
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:16,600
And then we stop
1732
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:17,520
-Freeze
-Ah!
1733
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:18,920
Everybody dance now
1734
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,200
Do the propeller
Do the propeller
1735
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,600
Do the propeller around and around
1736
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,680
Do the propeller
Do the propeller
1737
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,640
Do the propeller around and around
1738
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:32,680
[song ends]
1739
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,240
{\an8}You know, I don't think the four of them
took a day off in probably two years
1740
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,360
{\an8}in that 2013 to 2014 period.
1741
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:41,800
They put in the hard yards.
1742
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,560
They were writing great music.
1743
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,440
[woman] And the ARIA goes to...
1744
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,000
- The Wiggles.
- [all cheering]
1745
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,080
[Luke Field] So I knew
it was going to work.
1746
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:50,000
Big jump there.
1747
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,800
[singing]
Whoo, wiggy, wiggy, wiggy
1748
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,240
Whoo, wiggy, wiggy, wiggy
1749
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:54,520
Gimme that, gimme that
1750
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,680
[Paddy] Our audience regenerates
every three years.
1751
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,320
Three years after they left,
1752
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,280
there was people going,
"Who's the old Wiggles? I don't get it."
1753
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,240
[Murray] I went to one
of the Wiggles' shows,
1754
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,080
and I walked through the audience,
1755
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,680
and all the parents were going
to the kids, "Look, it's Murray!"
1756
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,000
And the kids were like,
"What? Who?" [laughs]
1757
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,840
[Emma] Children had always
dressed up at the shows,
1758
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,600
but it became very different
where children wanted to
1759
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,320
emulate their favorite Wiggle,
1760
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,360
and that's what was really special
about these little ones.
1761
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,160
So cute.
1762
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,000
You would see a sea of yellow out there.
1763
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,000
Bows everywhere, all that.
1764
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,480
It was really fun
and it was very successful.
1765
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:36,000
I would never have imagined
anything like that when Anthony asked me.
1766
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,880
Well, everybody wave to Emma
as she walks past.
1767
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,360
She's going out into the crowd right now,
1768
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:44,680
[singing] Emma
1769
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:46,720
Emma
1770
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,160
She's the girl with the bow in her hair
1771
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,160
Emma
1772
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,000
Emma
1773
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,440
[Emma] The only time
there was ever a unified cheer
1774
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,800
was when I brought us a sign onto stage
1775
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,680
from a child in the audience
that said, " Boys can be Emma, too."
1776
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:03,640
[laughing]
1777
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:08,200
[singing]
It's Emma's yellow bow
1778
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:09,800
Bow, bow
1779
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,320
Come on, let's try it!
1780
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:12,720
Emma
1781
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,000
Emma
1782
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:15,360
Emma bow
1783
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:16,280
Bow, bow
1784
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:17,480
Bow, bow
1785
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,160
[Emma] Have a bow-tiful day.
1786
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,200
[The Wiggles: "Moonshine Pearl]
1787
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:27,040
On the moon, lives a girl
1788
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,680
Her name is Moonshine Pearl
1789
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,200
{\an8}[woman] For two years,
Yellow Wiggle and Purple Wiggle
1790
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:34,880
kept their love affair a secret.
1791
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,200
[Lachlan] You know,
we were traveling the world.
1792
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:38,880
We were together.
1793
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:40,880
But things do change
1794
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:42,720
and life changes.
1795
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,800
[Emma] Romantically, it just wasn't going
the way that our friendship was going.
1796
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,120
[inaudible]
1797
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,200
[man] And the entertainment world
delivered some more sad news today,
1798
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,680
{\an8}with the Purple and Yellow Wiggles
announcing their separation.
1799
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,400
They say breaking up is a very positive
change in their relationship.
1800
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,360
It was very much just
a personal Emma and I thing.
1801
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,000
Life does move on.
1802
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,880
[man] They plan to continue
to perform together.
1803
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,960
[Emma] To be in that role
is a lot of responsibility,
1804
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,200
but also it was really
all about the children.
1805
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,640
[Lachlan] The Wiggles has
always been so professional.
1806
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,840
Everything they do is for children.
1807
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,760
I am absolutely proud of myself
on doing that at all times.
1808
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,640
[Emma] It's connecting with a child
in a very important stage of their life,
1809
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:39,320
and we might be responsible
for their first show,
1810
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,120
their first experience of music.
1811
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,960
I've got a beautiful poster
and I actually got it framed
1812
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,120
from a beautiful little Down Syndrome boy
that says,
1813
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,160
"Not all superheroes wear capes.
Mine wears purple."
1814
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,080
{\an8}[siren wailing]
1815
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,960
{\an8}[woman 1]
The country is burning.
1816
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,280
It's been labeled
the worst fire season ever recorded.
1817
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,760
[man] Thousands of people
take refuge wherever they could.
1818
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,720
[woman 2] This is the view
of the fires from space. You can see...
1819
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,040
[Luke] I think this says a lot
about the person that Anthony is.
1820
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,360
He called me instantly and was like,
"What can we do?
1821
01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:15,400
We need to do something to help people."
1822
01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:17,800
Lachy and Simon were away at the time,
1823
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,560
so we kind of went
"Well, let's put on the OGs."
1824
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,640
[Stephen Colbert]
The original lineup of The Wiggles...
1825
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,840
- [audience cheering]
- ...have announced that they will reunite
1826
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,080
for bushfire benefit shows.
1827
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,000
You heard me right. The original lineup.
1828
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,120
About damn time.
1829
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,680
[Anthony] We came together
at a smaller venue.
1830
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:35,960
Said it was over-18s.
1831
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,600
[Murray] Greg was feeling he could do it.
1832
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,200
He didn't really know
what was going to happen.
1833
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,160
There was no reason why he shouldn't.
1834
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:45,120
[crowd cheering]
1835
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:49,160
[announcer] ...and certainly more
deserving than the original Wiggles.
1836
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:50,640
[crowd cheering]
1837
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:57,800
Hello, friends.
1838
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,160
Hello, everyone.
1839
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,520
[Anthony] The night
was going unbelievably.
1840
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:02,920
Greg was on fire.
1841
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,640
[singing] Do the monkey
1842
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:06,920
Ooh-ooh-ah-ah...
1843
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,320
[Anthony] The crowd were loving it.
1844
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,200
Greg was dancing around
like he was still 20.
1845
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:16,240
And then we played "Get Ready to Wiggle,"
which is so energetic.
1846
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,840
[singing]
Wiggle your hair and wiggle your nose
1847
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,560
Ready to wiggle
1848
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,440
[Emma] Being there on stage,
I could see Greg
1849
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,200
and he was signaling to me
to come and stand in.
1850
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,280
Ba-dum-ba-bum-ba-da-ba-dum
1851
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,920
Ba-dum-ba-bum-ba-da-ba-dum
1852
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:33,560
Ba-dum...
1853
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:37,000
It's almost like he knows
that something's about to happen.
1854
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:42,560
We had a fantastic time,
right up to the very end.
1855
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,640
[crowd cheering]
1856
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:46,800
Thank you, everybody.
1857
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:47,720
Whoo!
1858
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,640
Thank for coming to support
all those wonderful people.
1859
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:55,000
Greg came over to the side of stage,
and was just behind me.
1860
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,320
He kind of fell down.
1861
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:04,920
He didn't look well,
1862
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,120
and I thought,
"Oh, he's just overdone it."
1863
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,840
So I jetted over to him
on the other side of the stage.
1864
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,920
Now I was aware that Greg
used to pass out quite often.
1865
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:15,760
And he's lying on the ground.
1866
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:17,400
His eyes started rolling
back in his head.
1867
01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:19,640
My first thought was
he's having some sort of fit.
1868
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,760
[crowd chanting] "Hot Potato"!
"Hot Potato"! "Hot Potato"!
1869
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,840
[speaking indistinctly]
1870
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:29,160
[crowd cheering]
1871
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,080
[Murray] Guys, I think we're going
to end it there.
1872
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:36,360
Greg's not feeling real well.
1873
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,040
Uh, Greggy?
1874
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:39,800
So...
1875
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:41,800
So thanks everyone for coming tonight.
1876
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,000
Then a couple of staff people came over
and they were kind of looking after him,
1877
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,240
so I went, you know,
1878
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,600
"Okay, it's all right.
You can go back on."
1879
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:50,920
Do... Do...
1880
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,440
- We could... We'll do "Hot Potato"...
- While he's taking...
1881
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,800
I radioed a colleague of mine, Kim.
1882
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,000
First-aid trained.
1883
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,360
And by the time she'd gotten to Greg,
he'd stopped breathing.
1884
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:10,120
I remember the color from his face going,
and I thought he was dead.
1885
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,360
It's horrible to see one of your mates
get affected like that.
1886
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:18,240
Yeah, it's...
1887
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,640
You really don't know what to do
in those circumstances.
1888
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,600
The only time I've been around
someone, you know,
1889
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,480
I care so much about
where something like that happened,
1890
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,480
and so it was, yeah, pretty distressing.
1891
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,080
I could see Anthony
starting to have a panic attack.
1892
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:40,880
So I was on the ground.
1893
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,960
It was as bad as it could be. Really.
1894
01:21:44,440 --> 01:21:48,120
The Castle Hill venue manager,
she came up on stage.
1895
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,880
She straight away went,
"I'm going to go get the defibrillator."
1896
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:50,800
She knew where it was.
1897
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,360
There was a nurse in the audience.
She came up on stage.
1898
01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:54,520
She took charge.
1899
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,360
[faint applause]
1900
01:21:57,440 --> 01:22:00,440
And then I woke up in hospital,
1901
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,840
and Vanessa was there
at the side of the bed,
1902
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,960
and she said to me, "You're having
a massive heart attack." [chuckles]
1903
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:11,040
And I remember at that time thinking,
"What do you mean 'having'?"
1904
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,880
Because even though
they'd resuscitated me,
1905
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,280
I still had a blockage
and my heart was under attack.
1906
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:17,760
It is frightening, uh,
1907
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,720
to see, uh, a friend, uh...
1908
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,600
really in a bad way like that,
1909
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,680
and, uh, uh, I was just glad
the guys could bring him back.
1910
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,840
[Greg] After the procedure,
the nurse who was there said,
1911
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,520
"You're a very lucky man
because only 10% of people
1912
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,200
survive what you've just been through."
1913
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,320
Greg kind of said, gave us his blessing.
1914
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:44,600
He really wanted us to proceed
with the show on Saturday night, you know.
1915
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,240
Your original Wiggles!
1916
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:48,480
[crowd cheering]
1917
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,120
You're all right, man. You're okay.
1918
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,080
[cheering]
1919
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:02,320
The audience was so loud
1920
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,520
that you could hardly hear
whoever was singing. [laughing]
1921
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,240
Which was pretty moving, so...
1922
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,760
You can see I'm tearing up a bit
because, yeah, it was...
1923
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,520
I mean, obviously incredibly
harrowing for him and his family,
1924
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,480
but was harrowing for us,
his other family, too.
1925
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,600
[Emma] And from that point,
you could see the love outpouring,
1926
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,840
not just to Greg, but to the group.
1927
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,960
And I think that's actually played
1928
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,400
a really special part
in all of our hearts.
1929
01:23:32,440 --> 01:23:36,040
[woman] From his hospital bed,
a soft smile and a thumbs up.
1930
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,480
Worldwide, fans sending well wishes
to the Yellow Wiggle.
1931
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,520
I think the only word
I could use is "impact."
1932
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:49,320
To see, you know, however many people here
1933
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,960
have left messages about that one event
1934
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,560
and the way it's impacted
people we don't know.
1935
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,080
So, yeah, this is quite, um...
1936
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:03,360
Yeah, quite emotional to think about
the whole cycle of
1937
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,560
The Wiggles and the relationship
with our audience.
1938
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:11,640
[woman]
The World Health Organization
1939
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:15,000
has now officially declared
the outbreak a pandemic.
1940
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:19,800
[man] The way in which it can be spread
more rapidly is in very large events.
1941
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,720
You might only have one or two people
at a very large event
1942
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,920
who might be carrying the virus
and the chances...
1943
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,440
[Luke] We weren't touring.
1944
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,880
{\an8}Triple J, which is a great
Australian radio station,
1945
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:31,040
{\an8}reached out to The Wiggles and said,
1946
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,200
{\an8}"We'd love you to do a thing
called Like a Version,"
1947
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,160
which is bands covering other bands
and genres of music.
1948
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,280
[woman] The Second Coming is upon us.
1949
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:40,560
[whispering] It's back.
1950
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,120
[Luke] And it was in the middle of COVID.
1951
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,080
We'd all had a pretty rotten time,
1952
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,880
and I think, you know,
a bit of fun was on the cards. [chuckles]
1953
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:53,240
Triple J, such a contemporary station
of really cool 20-year-olds, you know.
1954
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,280
We had to come up
with a song that we liked.
1955
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:00,640
And I had a list of about 15 songs,
none of which I knew. [laughing]
1956
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,760
[Lucia] "Elephant" by Tame Impala
was one of them.
1957
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,920
[singing]
Well, he feels like an elephant
1958
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,640
Shaking his big grey trunk
for the hell of it
1959
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,240
I was like, "I'm the biggest
Tame Impala fan.
1960
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,200
You have to do 'Elephant.'
Like, this is such a good song."
1961
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,120
Without hearing the song,
and I saw "Elephant,"
1962
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:19,680
I thought, "Oh, great,
it's about an animal."
1963
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,080
[singing]
Too bad your chances are slim
1964
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,520
"'Elephant'? Children like elephants.
We can do 'Elephant.'"
1965
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:26,640
[playing "Elephant"]
1966
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,640
We spent probably four days
working that out, and Emma's
1967
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,800
learned from a drummer how to play it,
1968
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,920
which was incredible
because it's not an easy part.
1969
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,920
[singing]
Well, he feels like an elephant
1970
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,520
[Anthony] We sent Triple J
the most faithful rendition of it.
1971
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,000
It was like we were a cover band.
1972
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,480
They said,
"It's got to still say The Wiggles."
1973
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:49,800
So then, I thought...
1974
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,760
[singing]
Fruit salad
1975
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,880
[Murray] We wanted
to keep it faithful to the original,
1976
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,720
so the best way to keep it Wiggly
is just stick in "Fruit Salad."
1977
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:58,960
[both laughing]
1978
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,160
Which then Wiggle-fied it.
1979
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:02,400
Fruit salad
1980
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,720
Fruit salad
1981
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,400
Yummy, yummy
1982
01:26:07,480 --> 01:26:09,240
[Anthony] We brought Murray in
to play the guitar.
1983
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:10,160
Jeff.
1984
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,000
Greg wasn't allowed because of COVID.
1985
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:13,400
Fruit salad
1986
01:26:13,480 --> 01:26:14,560
Yummy, yummy
1987
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,440
Now this is the synth lead.
1988
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:18,920
That's the sound I played on "Elephant."
1989
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,880
[plays synth]
1990
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,000
But you get to play with Murray.
It's pretty cool.
1991
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:29,120
- Rock god.
- [laughing]
1992
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:33,320
So, for us, it's a real pleasure
to be able to play it with you.
1993
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,000
We played it,
and the reaction was incredible.
1994
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,920
After it went to air,
just so many people in this...
1995
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,480
Like, I just got stopped way more.
1996
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:44,760
"Oh, I loved 'Elephant.'"
1997
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,840
We really needed, yeah, some fun.
1998
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:48,640
One of the magazines said, "Oh,
1999
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,240
this is the collaboration
we didn't realize we needed."
2000
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:55,960
[song ends]
2001
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,240
[Bryce Valley]
Thank you for all of your votes,
2002
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,360
and all these texts are
absolutely flooding through.
2003
01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:02,760
{\an8}A lot of people very excited
as we head towards number one
2004
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,120
{\an8}Every year, they have
the Triple J Hottest 100.
2005
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,640
Listeners vote
for their favorite song of the year.
2006
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,200
[Bryce] Plenty of big hits.
2007
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,080
That could take out this number-one slot.
2008
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,160
People have barbecues,
have parties around it.
2009
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:17,880
It's unbelievably big.
2010
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:19,040
So, of course, we thought,
2011
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,120
"Well, if we make
the Hottest 100, that's great.
2012
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:22,760
Ninety-nine, who cares?"
2013
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:24,400
The voting opened.
2014
01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:25,880
My brother called me up and said,
2015
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:27,760
"There's a lot of money
being put on The Wiggles
2016
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,000
that they'll be in the Top 20."
2017
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,600
We were listening to it all day.
Like, I had my phone by my ear.
2018
01:27:34,440 --> 01:27:36,840
As that day went on,
it just kept going up.
2019
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:38,320
It was down to number five.
2020
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:39,440
This one's three.
2021
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:40,520
- Eh? So we're...
- We're three?
2022
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,080
No. This song now is three.
2023
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:43,840
Top two.
2024
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,160
- [Ebony Boadu] Number two!
- [Bryce] In Triple J's Hottest 100.
2025
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:50,200
And then they played "Stay,"
Kid Laroi and Justin Bieber.
2026
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:51,880
[Murray] When we got to number two,
2027
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,960
we all just started hugging
because we knew we were number one.
2028
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,120
[all laughing]
2029
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,880
Biggest song, as voted by you, of 2021.
2030
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,560
[Bryce] 2.5 million votes.
2031
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:06,400
And they played the first, like...
[humming "Elephant"]
2032
01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:09,840
I'm like, "Oh, my gosh, they won!
They got number one!"
2033
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,200
[all cheering]
2034
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,360
The confetti cannon's going off.
2035
01:28:14,440 --> 01:28:16,680
This was so special to so many people
2036
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:20,360
because our listeners grew up
listening to you, also to Tame Impala.
2037
01:28:20,440 --> 01:28:22,960
I mean, what is it? What...
How does it feel to take this out?
2038
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:24,200
This is massive.
2039
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,560
I think this is one of the biggest things
that's ever happened to us.
2040
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:28,760
So, thank you, everyone.
Thanks, Bryce and Ebony...
2041
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,760
Bigger than Madison Square Garden?
2042
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,560
- It's up there, yeah.
- [all laugh]
2043
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,040
- It is. It really is.
- Yeah.
2044
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:38,960
If I knew The Wiggles was going to be
2045
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,000
going for as long as it has,
2046
01:28:41,480 --> 01:28:44,240
I would have made us... gender balanced,
2047
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:45,560
diverse.
2048
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:47,600
And I got a chance to do that.
2049
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:50,960
Come 2021, and we've,
you know, the pandemic,
2050
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,960
we're locked in our world.
2051
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,080
I got Emma, Lachy,
Simon together and I said,
2052
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,800
"I honestly believe
that we need to diversify
2053
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:04,560
because we're four people
with blue eyes and pale skin."
2054
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,040
Hi, my name's Anthony.
2055
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:07,560
[TV static]
2056
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,000
[singing]
Fruit Salad TV
2057
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:10,000
Fruit Salad TV
2058
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:11,600
[woman] Earlier this week,
The Wiggles announced
2059
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,600
that they're welcoming
four new gender balanced
2060
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,240
and diverse cast members
to their YouTube series.
2061
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:21,280
{\an8}Fruit Salad TV!
2062
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:22,880
{\an8}What do you think about all that?
2063
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:27,840
[man] You know, it's a bit box ticking.
2064
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,120
[woman] Just think
it's absolutely an insult
2065
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,040
{\an8}and I find the whole thing
an absolute shame.
2066
01:29:32,440 --> 01:29:37,680
This is the only thing I've ever felt
that had to happen.
2067
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:38,640
{\an8}But what about this?
2068
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,640
{\an8}We got the non-binary unicorn.
2069
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:45,520
"The Wiggles decide to visit their friend,
Shirley Shawn the Unicorn."
2070
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,760
[Peterson] If somebody can enlighten me,
if somebody can tell me why,
2071
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,720
we have to have a non-binary unicorn?
2072
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,720
[panelist] I presume the unicorn would
prefer to be addressed as "they."
2073
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:54,040
What do you think?
2074
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,280
Yeah, Shirley Shawn the Unicorn. [laughs]
2075
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:57,280
They are terrific.
2076
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,880
{\an8}[stammering] I just think
it's all woke madness.
2077
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:02,720
[Stefanovic]
Not everyone's happy, Anthony.
2078
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,560
{\an8}That troublesome and boring senator said,
"If you go woke, you go broke."
2079
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,600
{\an8}How do you respond to that sort of thing?
2080
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,400
{\an8}I didn't even know what it meant. And...
2081
01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:11,880
{\an8}[all laughing]
2082
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,280
{\an8}We've been celebrating
sleeping for years, you know?
2083
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,560
{\an8}So I don't mind.
I've been woken up.
2084
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:20,120
{\an8}[all laughing]
2085
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,720
I know Anthony and Dad inspired me
that I could do something more.
2086
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:27,000
Seeing a gender-balanced
and a diverse Wiggles
2087
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,120
should be inspiring
for little boys and little girls
2088
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,080
to, you know, you can be a Wiggle,
you can be a Prime Minister.
2089
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:34,720
You can be anything you want to be.
2090
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,960
Emma, a PhD?
2091
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,320
Blimey, what are you doing a PhD in?
2092
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:45,160
My PhD is about creative integration
of dance, sign language and film editing,
2093
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,760
- so it's really visual harmony on screen.
- [Koch] Wow!
2094
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,040
[woman] Emma Watkins
has made the tough decision
2095
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:55,880
{\an8}to move on after eight years
as the Yellow Wiggle.
2096
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,760
{\an8}[Emma] I feel like I really need to focus
to finish the research now.
2097
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:03,880
{\an8}[Simon] I didn't see it coming.
2098
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,440
And it was sad because it was, you know,
2099
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,800
the three of us came in at the same time,
2100
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:11,960
so we'd gone through a lot together.
2101
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:16,760
{\an8}It's one of those days where you go,
2102
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,560
{\an8}"It's very sad to see Emma go.
We're going to miss her."
2103
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:22,400
But Tsehay coming along
has made that easier to cope with.
2104
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,360
[singing] Hey, Tsehay
2105
01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:28,120
[man] A five-time
World Latin Dance Champion
2106
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:32,880
who has been a part of The Wiggles'
latest TV series, Fruit Salad.
2107
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,880
[singing] You can jump as high as the sky
2108
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:41,120
She's very, very smart, an amazing dancer,
and all-around performer.
2109
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:43,640
Our friend, Tsehay
2110
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,160
[Tsehay Hawkins] I was born in Ethiopia.
2111
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:52,040
{\an8}And my beautiful parents adopted me
when I was about six-months old.
2112
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:53,920
[Wiggles singing] Everybody clap
2113
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,400
[clapping]
2114
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,120
Everybody sing
La la la la la
2115
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:00,040
[woman giggling]
2116
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:01,800
[Tsehay] My mom was actually
a childcare teacher,
2117
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,320
so she played Wiggles on repeat,
stuck in my head.
2118
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:09,280
Hands in the air, rock-a-bye your bear
2119
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:11,560
Bear's now asleep
2120
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,800
[Tsehay] It's really exciting just seeing,
2121
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:18,920
like, a brown-skinned girl
as a kid's doll was beautiful.
2122
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,000
[woman] Who is it?
2123
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,280
Aw, you love Tsehay?
2124
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,880
It's really cool that I'm part
of that next step.
2125
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:26,240
[indistinct chatter]
2126
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,280
[Murray] It's always better
if the audience
2127
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:30,600
can see themselves in the performers,
2128
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,560
{\an8}and we've had the feedback
from African-Australian people
2129
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,120
{\an8}of how much it means to them.
2130
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,520
{\an8}And we all say, "Wake up, Lachy!"
2131
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:42,240
[Greg] When we started it, in 1991,
there was definitely a conscious awareness
2132
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,000
of making sure that we included
music from other cultures.
2133
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:49,800
{\an8}[singing]
Taba naba naba norem
2134
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:51,880
Tugi penai siri
2135
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:53,080
Dinghy e naba we
2136
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,840
[Greg] As much as Anthony could see
what he wanted to do,
2137
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,800
I don't even think he saw
what was going to happen.
2138
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,080
You know, looking at what is there today
with the current Wiggles.
2139
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,160
Style
2140
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:05,080
Taba naba...
2141
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,480
[Evie Ferries] I am a First Nations woman.
2142
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,280
{\an8}As a child, with other First Nations
2143
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,960
{\an8}and Torres Strait Islanders
and Aboriginal kids,
2144
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,960
we would play that and do the actions.
2145
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:17,720
It was just so special.
2146
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,400
[singing]
Taba naba norem
2147
01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:23,120
Evie wears yellow with a red,
2148
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,360
yellow and black colors
of the Aboriginal Flag of Australia.
2149
01:33:26,440 --> 01:33:28,520
She speaks to a lot of people out there.
2150
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:33,560
[singing]
Taba naba naba norem
2151
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,080
[Evie] I've had some beautiful messages.
2152
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:41,280
Kids can't wait to copy that skirt
and be wearing those colors as well.
2153
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,520
Taba naba norem
2154
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,920
{\an8}And that's the beauty
and magic of The Wiggles.
2155
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,960
{\an8}That there is different groups
and the people can engage with.
2156
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,640
[Anthony] Caterina's been with us
for 20-something years.
2157
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,160
- Our choreographer.
- [laughing]
2158
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:59,760
[Caterina] I'm still the choreographer,
but it sort of evolved even more.
2159
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:01,480
Anthony's a bit like that.
2160
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,720
He wants to give everyone an opportunity,
give everyone a chance.
2161
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,640
[Anthony] People ask me,
"How did you get Johnny?"
2162
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:08,680
Well, I saw him at the local pizza shop.
2163
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:12,440
Every time I saw him,
he was with a man with Down Syndrome.
2164
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,400
He was so lovely to this man,
2165
01:34:14,480 --> 01:34:16,920
and I thought,
"The universe is talking to me."
2166
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:20,920
He's not hard on the eye,
and he's, you know, Mr. Muscleman.
2167
01:34:22,440 --> 01:34:25,120
[John Pierce] Anthony asked everybody
what their favorite hobbies were.
2168
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:26,480
{\an8}"I love to exercise."
2169
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,760
{\an8}[chuckling]
"Okay, we'll turn it into a character."
2170
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:30,560
Big Strong John was born.
2171
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:32,800
["Fruit Salad" playing]
2172
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,320
[woman] The Wiggles' purple member
2173
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,200
{\an8}has become an overnight sensation
in the US,
2174
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,480
{\an8}winning over the hearts
of users on TikTok,
2175
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,760
{\an8}many calling him
a heartthrob, a thirst trap.
2176
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,320
{\an8}[man] Causing quite the stir
with parents.
2177
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,120
{\an8}[woman] Yes, John Pierce
is making international headlines.
2178
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,400
[John] I'm all about fitness, and health,
and exercise, and, you know, resilience.
2179
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:52,320
And I think that's the main focus
for my character
2180
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:53,920
and keeping it all Wiggly
at the same time.
2181
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:57,000
I like it. [chuckles]
2182
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:58,640
The more out there, the better.
2183
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:02,200
{\an8}We need bigger. We need bigger.
Bigger. Bigger!
2184
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,920
{\an8}My dad asked me to be a Wiggle. [chuckles]
2185
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:08,320
I was touring so much, been away so much.
2186
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,600
Making up for lost time,
getting to know Lucia on the road.
2187
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,600
Been performing for a lot of my life
2188
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,320
and also been on set with him
quite a bit as well.
2189
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:19,520
Lucia did find a bit weird
having to call her dad, "Anthony."
2190
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,080
- Yeah.
- [all laughing]
2191
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:24,280
[Anthony] Lucia is her own person.
2192
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:25,640
She always has been.
2193
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,920
She went down to the
Australian Ballet School for three years.
2194
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,240
And I think she's incredibly talented.
2195
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,880
[Lucia] Now we have four female Wiggles.
2196
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,720
I think that's just exciting, as a woman,
2197
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:42,640
but also the reaction towards it
by everyone was just incredible.
2198
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,080
[Anthony] The story just keeps
getting better, if you ask me,
2199
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:50,200
and the music's still wonderful.
It's still great creating.
2200
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,960
{\an8}Hopefully, parents will keep trusting us
2201
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:56,320
because they have trusted us
with entertainment of their children.
2202
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,920
So, as long as we do the right thing,
I think we can keep going.
2203
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,160
Sooner or later, I'm gonna take
a back seat, obviously,
2204
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:05,800
in, you know,
a retirement village with Jeff.
2205
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:06,880
[chuckles]
2206
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:08,560
[Adalita singing]
Get ready
2207
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:11,800
To wiggle
2208
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:18,560
We've been ready for so long
2209
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:20,440
[Luke] Greg was healthy again,
2210
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:23,960
but when Anthony and I took a moment
to sit down and reflect on
2211
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:26,040
seeing Greg live on stage, collapsing,
2212
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,160
we both instantly went,
2213
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,360
"That can't be the last OG show
that people remembered."
2214
01:36:31,480 --> 01:36:34,680
[Anthony] Well, to me,
the reunion shows were a celebration
2215
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:36,280
of Greg being alive.
2216
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,960
Murray's also had open-heart surgery.
2217
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,040
Jeff, also.
2218
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:42,280
Whoo!
2219
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,840
[Anthony] So, to me,
this was a celebration of life.
2220
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:46,520
[cheering]
2221
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:47,680
The Wiggles rock!
2222
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,440
We're Wiggles supporters
since we were, like, two.
2223
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:52,960
What crossed my mind was,
"This is so cool.
2224
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:54,440
We're going to be able to swear."
2225
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:55,920
And then Anthony goes, "No, no, no.
2226
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,400
It's just going to be the exact same show
that we've always done."
2227
01:36:58,480 --> 01:36:59,480
Yeah!
2228
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:01,080
[all cheering]
2229
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:02,080
[Jeff] Wiggles!
2230
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:03,480
Wake up, Wiggles!
2231
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:05,320
Wake up!
2232
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,200
[Jeff] I'm not sure what OG means.
2233
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:08,560
"Original Gangster"?
2234
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,760
They're the least gangsters
you'll ever meet. [chuckles]
2235
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,400
I mean, personally,
I'd call it Old Guy Wiggles [chuckles]
2236
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:16,200
[Greg] It's kind of out there.
2237
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,040
You've got these
four old blokes up on stage
2238
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,440
trying to recreate
what they did 30 years ago.
2239
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:23,400
[Murray] Yeah, we know
it's weird. [laughs]
2240
01:37:23,480 --> 01:37:25,200
And they know it's weird, too.
2241
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:26,120
They love it.
2242
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,960
It just means for like an hour and a half,
they can be kids again.
2243
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,200
[singing]
We're gonna do the monkey
2244
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:33,760
Ooh-ooh-ah-ah, ooh-ooh-ah-ah!
2245
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:35,640
Do the monkey
2246
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:37,560
Ooh-ooh-ah-ah, ooh-ooh-ah-ah!
2247
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:39,360
Monkey, monkey
2248
01:37:39,440 --> 01:37:40,600
Ooh-ooh-ah-ah
2249
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:41,560
That's all right
2250
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:44,280
Here comes an elephant.
2251
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,320
We're going to do the elephant
2252
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,360
[trumpets]
2253
01:37:48,440 --> 01:37:50,160
Do the elephant
2254
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:51,360
[trumpets]
2255
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:53,560
Do the elephant
2256
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:54,480
[trumpets]
2257
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:55,880
That's all right
2258
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:57,400
Get ready to jump, everyone.
2259
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,000
We're going to jump to the front and back
2260
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:01,960
Ooh ooh ha
2261
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,440
We're going to jump to the front
and the back
2262
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:05,400
Ooh ooh ha
2263
01:38:05,480 --> 01:38:07,920
Yeah, we're going to jump
to the front and the back
2264
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:09,040
Ooh ooh ha ha
2265
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:10,360
'Cause that's all right
2266
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,360
We're going to do the monkey
2267
01:38:15,440 --> 01:38:17,160
Ooh-ooh-ah-ah, ooh-ooh-ah-ah!
2268
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:18,760
Do the elephant
2269
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:20,160
[trumpets]
2270
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,440
The tiger, tiger
2271
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:23,520
[growls]
2272
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,160
Give yourselves a big clap, everybody!
2273
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:27,280
[crowd cheering]
2274
01:38:28,440 --> 01:38:32,280
I gotta say, this is amazing
seeing a huge mosh pit.
2275
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:35,320
[crowd cheering]
2276
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:39,840
[Murray] Doing this OG tour,
we've actually met a few people
2277
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:44,160
who had pretty rotten childhoods,
and for them it was kind of beacon.
2278
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:46,840
[Anthony] They've brought along
a photo with us,
2279
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,200
and we've recreated
some of those photos for people.
2280
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,720
[Murray] I saw them.
She posted them on Instagram.
2281
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,280
It's kind of their story, in a way.
2282
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:58,520
- Love it. This is my childhood come true.
- [friend giggling]
2283
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:00,560
[soft music playing]
2284
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:08,960
[muffled] Murray!
2285
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:13,640
[Murray] When people say,
"You were my childhood,"
2286
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,400
I find that sometimes
a little bit hard to fathom,
2287
01:39:16,480 --> 01:39:19,160
but I think they just mean, "You were
such an important part of my childhood,"
2288
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,080
and, um, I'm really proud of that.
2289
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:26,680
[indistinct chatter]
2290
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:29,040
[Anthony] Murray, will you be able
to get up again?
2291
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:30,480
[all laughing]
2292
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,200
I mean, I've been going to the gym, man.
2293
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:34,400
Yeah, you do.
2294
01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:37,000
[crowd] Yeah! [clapping, cheering]
2295
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,320
- [Anthony] Oh, no.
- [Greg] He's fallen asleep.
2296
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:42,440
[all] Wake up, Jeff!
2297
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,840
[Jeff] It's something that I've been
blessed with in my life.
2298
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:48,640
That's something that,
yeah, I'll always cherish.
2299
01:39:52,480 --> 01:39:55,280
[Greg] You know, the fact that
we've been able to create this thing
2300
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,840
that we have had this amazing
journey with, and many people
2301
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:00,960
have had an amazing journey with us.
2302
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:04,640
That's it.
2303
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:07,080
Yeah!
2304
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,160
[crowd cheering]
2305
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,840
[Anthony] What I've learned
from the last couple of years
2306
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,600
is it doesn't matter
who's wearing the skivvy,
2307
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,600
as long as we reflect our audience,
2308
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:27,840
as long as they're
communicating with children.
2309
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:31,000
I think everyone does have
a child inside 'em,
2310
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,400
but sometimes people get away from that.
2311
01:40:33,480 --> 01:40:36,520
[crowd cheering]
2312
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,200
We've all got to be in touch
with the child in us.
2313
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:46,080
We're very lucky to be doing
what we're doing.
2314
01:40:47,480 --> 01:40:50,360
[crowd cheering]
2315
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,040
Let's see what I've got in here.
2316
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:03,120
[singing]
Everybody clap
2317
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:04,280
{\an8}[camera shutter clicking]
2318
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:05,920
{\an8}Everybody sing
2319
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:07,000
{\an8}[camera shutter clicking]
2320
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:09,160
{\an8}Bow to your partner
2321
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:10,080
{\an8}[camera shutter clicks]
2322
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:11,120
{\an8}Then you turn around
2323
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:12,960
Where'd you get all this? [laughing]
2324
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:15,320
Hands in the air, rock-a-bye your bear
2325
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:16,560
Bear's now asleep
2326
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,120
[camera shutter clicking]
2327
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:20,640
{\an8}Hands in the air, rock-a-bye your bear
2328
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:21,840
{\an8}Bear's now asleep
2329
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:23,400
[camera shutter clicking]
2330
01:41:23,480 --> 01:41:24,880
Bear's now asleep
2331
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:26,080
[camera shutter clicking]
2332
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:27,440
{\an8}Bear's now asleep
2333
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,000
{\an8}[camera shutter clicking]
2334
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:37,720
[closing instrumental music playing]