1 00:00:14,923 --> 00:00:17,683 [Graham] Are we a species with amnesia? 2 00:00:19,003 --> 00:00:22,523 Could we have forgotten a vital part of our own story? 3 00:00:24,563 --> 00:00:25,643 I'm Graham Hancock, 4 00:00:25,723 --> 00:00:29,403 and many archaeologists hate me for trying to find out. 5 00:00:31,323 --> 00:00:34,683 The notion of a lost advanced civilization of the Ice Age 6 00:00:34,763 --> 00:00:38,683 is extremely threatening to mainstream archaeology 7 00:00:38,763 --> 00:00:42,883 because it rips the ground out from under that entire discipline. 8 00:00:43,563 --> 00:00:45,603 It removes the foundation. 9 00:00:45,683 --> 00:00:47,163 I don't care about that. 10 00:00:49,043 --> 00:00:52,643 There's people that come along and because of their impact, 11 00:00:52,723 --> 00:00:55,803 it changes the way people look at things. 12 00:00:55,883 --> 00:00:58,603 Graham Hancock is a man who, 13 00:00:58,683 --> 00:01:02,043 despite all of the insults, 14 00:01:02,123 --> 00:01:04,883 and all of the people disparaging his work 15 00:01:04,963 --> 00:01:07,443 he has trekked on and on and on. 16 00:01:08,643 --> 00:01:11,323 What I care about is learning the lessons of the past 17 00:01:12,003 --> 00:01:16,323 in order to clear away that fog that surrounds prehistory. 18 00:01:16,403 --> 00:01:18,643 And it's a fog because there's no documents. 19 00:01:18,723 --> 00:01:22,363 We have to build our picture of the past from fragmentary evidence. 20 00:01:26,803 --> 00:01:30,843 Folk stories, legends, myths. 21 00:01:32,283 --> 00:01:35,123 These for me are all important evidence. 22 00:01:37,003 --> 00:01:41,483 And one of the most mysterious and revealing mythologies in prehistory 23 00:01:41,563 --> 00:01:45,363 comes down to us through the ancient cultures of Mexico. 24 00:02:06,323 --> 00:02:08,523 [Graham] In my search for a lost civilization, 25 00:02:09,683 --> 00:02:14,403 I've come to a land of fertile valleys and simmering volcanoes. 26 00:02:17,603 --> 00:02:20,523 This is the Puebla region, east of Mexico City. 27 00:02:21,563 --> 00:02:27,243 The site of this country's oldest continuously inhabited city, Cholula. 28 00:02:30,643 --> 00:02:34,603 Today, a modern metropolis of over 100,000 people, 29 00:02:35,763 --> 00:02:38,923 it holds an ancient secret at its heart. 30 00:02:42,963 --> 00:02:45,323 History is written by the victors. 31 00:02:46,363 --> 00:02:48,683 That's especially true in Mexico. 32 00:02:49,723 --> 00:02:53,883 When the Spanish conquistadors arrived in Cholula in 1519, 33 00:02:53,963 --> 00:02:56,283 they massacred its inhabitants, 34 00:02:58,083 --> 00:03:00,603 obliterating not only their culture, 35 00:03:00,683 --> 00:03:02,763 but also almost all traces 36 00:03:02,843 --> 00:03:05,923 of the more ancient cultures that had preceded them. 37 00:03:07,803 --> 00:03:09,763 But the invaders couldn't erase everything. 38 00:03:11,203 --> 00:03:15,563 The conquistadors had first assumed this hill was just that, a hill, 39 00:03:15,643 --> 00:03:17,683 and they built a church on top of it. 40 00:03:18,603 --> 00:03:22,843 But this hill isn't the natural feature it's often mistaken for. 41 00:03:23,643 --> 00:03:29,203 In fact, it's the most massive monument ever built anywhere in the world. 42 00:03:31,443 --> 00:03:34,083 And yet, chances are you've never heard of it. 43 00:03:35,643 --> 00:03:37,923 This is the Great Pyramid of Cholula. 44 00:03:41,563 --> 00:03:44,123 After centuries of neglect and pillaging, 45 00:03:44,203 --> 00:03:45,803 it's impossible to understand 46 00:03:45,883 --> 00:03:49,123 the sheer enormity of what once stood here. 47 00:03:49,843 --> 00:03:53,403 But we do have some idea of what it must have looked like in its prime. 48 00:03:57,683 --> 00:04:00,683 It's estimated that the Great Pyramid of Cholula 49 00:04:00,763 --> 00:04:05,643 rose to at least 213 feet, 65 meters. 50 00:04:06,763 --> 00:04:09,483 Evidence suggests it was originally dedicated 51 00:04:09,563 --> 00:04:13,003 to the ancient Mexican god of rain and floods, 52 00:04:13,083 --> 00:04:15,603 whom the Aztecs knew by the name of Tlaloc. 53 00:04:17,283 --> 00:04:20,283 Built mostly with mud and straw adobe bricks, 54 00:04:20,363 --> 00:04:23,603 it wasn't as tall as Egypt's Great Pyramid of Giza, 55 00:04:23,683 --> 00:04:27,683 but it was larger with nearly three times the footprint, 56 00:04:27,763 --> 00:04:31,123 measuring 400 by 400 meters at its base, 57 00:04:31,843 --> 00:04:34,123 roughly 30 football fields, 58 00:04:35,323 --> 00:04:37,363 making this the largest monument 59 00:04:37,443 --> 00:04:41,923 ever constructed by any civilization anywhere. 60 00:04:48,083 --> 00:04:50,523 Archaeologists quickly established 61 00:04:50,603 --> 00:04:54,723 that work on the pyramid was completed around eight centuries ago, 62 00:04:54,803 --> 00:04:56,723 1200 AD or thereabouts. 63 00:04:58,043 --> 00:05:01,883 But when they began cutting tunnels through the body of the structure, 64 00:05:01,963 --> 00:05:05,443 they were stunned by what they discovered inside. 65 00:05:10,563 --> 00:05:12,443 It's a surreal feeling 66 00:05:12,523 --> 00:05:14,923 descending into the largest pyramid on Earth. 67 00:05:16,723 --> 00:05:18,923 Within are beautiful murals 68 00:05:19,763 --> 00:05:23,483 depicting mythological scenes and creatures… 69 00:05:25,723 --> 00:05:29,323 and tantalizing glimpses of many layers of construction. 70 00:05:32,523 --> 00:05:36,003 Do they offer clues to this site's biggest mystery? 71 00:05:39,763 --> 00:05:42,043 Could it be part of a global legacy 72 00:05:42,123 --> 00:05:46,363 left behind by an ancient, advanced civilization of prehistory? 73 00:05:51,723 --> 00:05:55,763 I'm joined by one of the world's leading experts on the Great Pyramid of Cholula, 74 00:05:56,683 --> 00:06:01,043 University of Calgary anthropologist and archaeologist, Geoff McCafferty. 75 00:06:03,043 --> 00:06:06,603 We're in the heart of the most massive monument 76 00:06:06,683 --> 00:06:08,443 ever built anywhere in the ancient world. 77 00:06:09,043 --> 00:06:12,803 You get almost the same sense as when you go into a church. 78 00:06:12,883 --> 00:06:17,323 You know, there is a tangible sense of an aura of that power. 79 00:06:19,043 --> 00:06:22,523 These tunnels were excavated by Mexican archaeologists. 80 00:06:23,163 --> 00:06:25,123 There are a total of eight kilometers of tunnels. 81 00:06:25,203 --> 00:06:27,763 -That's extraordinary. Eight kilometers? -Yeah. 82 00:06:31,323 --> 00:06:32,843 [Graham] Using these tunnels, 83 00:06:32,923 --> 00:06:35,603 archaeologists made an astounding discovery. 84 00:06:39,523 --> 00:06:42,163 The Pyramid of Cholula is simply the latest 85 00:06:42,243 --> 00:06:46,803 in a whole series of more ancient pyramids hidden beneath. 86 00:06:51,963 --> 00:06:54,763 Inside is an even older pyramid, 87 00:06:54,843 --> 00:06:57,363 dating back to 800 AD or so, 88 00:06:59,843 --> 00:07:02,763 and beneath that, another one 89 00:07:03,643 --> 00:07:07,083 dating at least 200 to 500 years earlier. 90 00:07:09,803 --> 00:07:13,203 Until like a series of Russian nesting dolls, 91 00:07:13,283 --> 00:07:18,083 we get to what's thought to be the first and oldest pyramid built here, 92 00:07:18,163 --> 00:07:24,883 still an impressive 120 meters square and 17 meters or 56 feet high. 93 00:07:31,363 --> 00:07:34,163 When did construction first begin here? 94 00:07:34,803 --> 00:07:38,523 So, the earliest evidence of construction of the ceremonial zone 95 00:07:38,603 --> 00:07:40,483 dates to about 500 BC. 96 00:07:43,443 --> 00:07:45,083 It was a good size pyramid. 97 00:07:45,603 --> 00:07:49,083 Then, over time, it was expanded, 98 00:07:49,163 --> 00:07:51,443 sort of larger construction over the top of the other. 99 00:07:53,123 --> 00:07:55,443 [Graham] So this pyramid-building project 100 00:07:55,523 --> 00:07:58,563 must have been carried out by multiple generations 101 00:07:58,643 --> 00:08:03,523 over a span of 1,700 years, and possibly longer, 102 00:08:05,163 --> 00:08:07,683 a fact now acknowledged by archaeologists. 103 00:08:10,243 --> 00:08:11,523 Yet modern scholarship 104 00:08:11,603 --> 00:08:15,683 knows next to nothing about the original architects 105 00:08:16,363 --> 00:08:18,803 or why they chose to build a pyramid here. 106 00:08:21,483 --> 00:08:23,883 Precisely the mysteries that most interest me. 107 00:08:25,283 --> 00:08:27,523 Do you get the sense that something may be missing 108 00:08:27,603 --> 00:08:31,963 from the archaeological and historical story of ancient Mexico? 109 00:08:32,043 --> 00:08:34,323 [Geoffrey] Well, not to be overly dramatic, 110 00:08:34,403 --> 00:08:36,523 but I think that a better understanding of Cholula 111 00:08:36,603 --> 00:08:40,283 would fundamentally change the perception of Mesoamerican history. 112 00:08:41,923 --> 00:08:43,123 It is a black hole. 113 00:08:43,202 --> 00:08:45,243 It is a black hole in Mexican history. 114 00:08:47,683 --> 00:08:51,643 Do you think there was something here before that first pyramid was built? 115 00:08:51,723 --> 00:08:54,483 The pyramid was built over an important spring. 116 00:08:54,563 --> 00:08:55,563 [Graham] Yeah. 117 00:08:55,643 --> 00:08:58,683 The spring represents a passageway into the underworld… 118 00:08:58,763 --> 00:09:01,123 -Mmm. -…so it was clearly an important 119 00:09:01,203 --> 00:09:04,203 sacred space as well as a ceremonial focus. 120 00:09:05,203 --> 00:09:06,963 The fact that the pyramid was the structure 121 00:09:07,043 --> 00:09:09,843 that was chosen to be built upon that site is not accidental. 122 00:09:11,283 --> 00:09:14,163 On the contrary, I believe it's a critical clue 123 00:09:14,243 --> 00:09:18,283 to understanding the motivations of the original builders, 124 00:09:18,363 --> 00:09:21,243 because that repeats a theme that we find all around the world. 125 00:09:22,803 --> 00:09:24,403 We've already uncovered evidence 126 00:09:24,483 --> 00:09:29,003 of a similar terraced pyramid in Indonesia at Gunung Padang 127 00:09:29,083 --> 00:09:31,523 that also has a sacred spring at its heart. 128 00:09:33,723 --> 00:09:38,323 It's a pattern found not just in Mexico or Indonesia. 129 00:09:39,123 --> 00:09:41,643 That's the case with the subterranean chamber 130 00:09:41,723 --> 00:09:43,563 beneath the Great Pyramid of Giza. 131 00:09:43,643 --> 00:09:48,443 In my view, that is the first sacred place on the Giza plateau, 132 00:09:48,523 --> 00:09:51,563 and the pyramids are later built on top of it to honor it. 133 00:09:52,403 --> 00:09:56,123 The Pyramid of the Sun in Teotihuacán sits on top of a natural cavern. 134 00:09:56,203 --> 00:09:58,443 They modified it somewhat 135 00:09:58,523 --> 00:10:00,723 and then, they built a pyramid on top of it. 136 00:10:00,803 --> 00:10:03,043 But the first thing was the place itself, 137 00:10:03,123 --> 00:10:05,643 the sacred place, and the pyramids mark this. 138 00:10:07,163 --> 00:10:09,003 You start off with a place 139 00:10:09,083 --> 00:10:12,443 that for one reason or another is regarded as sacred, 140 00:10:12,523 --> 00:10:15,483 that had a special magnetism that people could sense 141 00:10:15,563 --> 00:10:18,323 that made it important and that made it matter. 142 00:10:24,403 --> 00:10:27,883 The Great Pyramid of Cholula shares another key feature 143 00:10:27,963 --> 00:10:30,043 with ancient pyramids all around the world. 144 00:10:32,803 --> 00:10:34,603 Hints of hidden chambers. 145 00:10:38,363 --> 00:10:41,123 Not long after the Spanish conquest of Mexico, 146 00:10:41,203 --> 00:10:45,363 a reliable eyewitness, Father Bernardino de Sahagún, 147 00:10:45,443 --> 00:10:51,163 reported that the Great Pyramid of Cholula was full of mines and caves within. 148 00:10:54,123 --> 00:10:58,323 Today, modern investigators have confirmed that observation. 149 00:10:59,603 --> 00:11:03,603 One of the former archaeologists found, somewhere inside the pyramid, 150 00:11:04,563 --> 00:11:05,643 an open room. 151 00:11:06,243 --> 00:11:08,043 And there were tunnels leading into it. 152 00:11:08,123 --> 00:11:09,243 It's never been published. 153 00:11:09,323 --> 00:11:11,923 I don't know what the current situation is. 154 00:11:12,003 --> 00:11:15,043 -That's a very tantalizing hint. -You think so? 155 00:11:15,123 --> 00:11:19,123 Has that room ever been excavated? Has it ever been revisited? 156 00:11:19,923 --> 00:11:20,923 Not that I know of. 157 00:11:23,203 --> 00:11:25,963 [Graham] Why hasn't this inner chamber ever been revisited? 158 00:11:27,563 --> 00:11:28,883 What secrets could it hold 159 00:11:28,963 --> 00:11:31,923 about the intentions of the original builders? 160 00:11:33,763 --> 00:11:37,203 Regardless, the fact that the Great Pyramid of Cholula 161 00:11:37,283 --> 00:11:40,163 has a hidden inner chamber at all, 162 00:11:40,243 --> 00:11:44,843 like its cousins in Gunung Padang and Giza, 163 00:11:44,923 --> 00:11:48,203 is yet another striking feature shared by these structures. 164 00:11:49,763 --> 00:11:50,883 And there's more. 165 00:11:52,163 --> 00:11:54,643 So it's pretty well established that the structure 166 00:11:54,723 --> 00:11:57,043 is oriented to the setting sun 167 00:11:57,123 --> 00:11:59,803 -on the summer solstice. -That's correct. 168 00:12:00,403 --> 00:12:05,203 The sun is setting between the two volcanoes to the west, 169 00:12:05,803 --> 00:12:08,843 so it's very much a solstice-related orientation. 170 00:12:10,683 --> 00:12:17,403 We know that the indigenous Mesoamericans were very clued into astronomical cycles. 171 00:12:18,523 --> 00:12:23,123 [Graham] As were the ancient Egyptians, who built their Great Pyramid of Giza 172 00:12:23,203 --> 00:12:26,723 to align precisely to true astronomical north. 173 00:12:29,123 --> 00:12:31,043 The fact that these ancient pyramids, 174 00:12:31,123 --> 00:12:34,043 whose builders supposedly had no contact with one another, 175 00:12:34,123 --> 00:12:37,483 have so much in common is a mystery. 176 00:12:40,003 --> 00:12:42,003 Is it just coincidence? 177 00:12:43,043 --> 00:12:44,563 I don't think so. 178 00:12:45,163 --> 00:12:47,163 The general view that archaeology puts forward, 179 00:12:47,243 --> 00:12:50,963 is that pyramids were built in the form that they have 180 00:12:51,043 --> 00:12:53,723 'cause that's the easiest way to make a high building. 181 00:12:54,883 --> 00:12:58,163 The problem is that these structures are universally associated 182 00:12:58,243 --> 00:13:00,683 with very specific spiritual ideas. 183 00:13:02,043 --> 00:13:04,243 What happens to us after death? 184 00:13:04,323 --> 00:13:07,123 This is always connected with pyramid structures, 185 00:13:07,203 --> 00:13:09,643 and that's the case whether you find them in Mexico 186 00:13:09,723 --> 00:13:11,443 or whether you find them in ancient Egypt 187 00:13:11,523 --> 00:13:14,883 or whether you find them in Cambodia or whether you find them in India. 188 00:13:16,963 --> 00:13:20,683 It's a detail that defies the accepted mainstream view 189 00:13:21,323 --> 00:13:24,083 that various human civilizations around the world, 190 00:13:24,163 --> 00:13:27,003 independently invented pyramids. 191 00:13:28,643 --> 00:13:30,683 What it suggests to me 192 00:13:30,763 --> 00:13:33,763 is that something else was going on behind the scenes. 193 00:13:36,483 --> 00:13:40,363 Could we be witnessing the unfolding of some extraordinary master plan? 194 00:13:42,443 --> 00:13:45,643 A shared legacy from a lost global civilization 195 00:13:45,723 --> 00:13:48,763 that provided the seeds and the spark of inspiration 196 00:13:48,843 --> 00:13:51,003 from which many later civilizations grew. 197 00:13:55,843 --> 00:13:58,563 It's a possibility that leads me to ask 198 00:13:58,643 --> 00:14:01,363 whether the pyramid-building project at Cholula 199 00:14:01,963 --> 00:14:06,643 could have much older origins than most archaeologists want to believe. 200 00:14:08,923 --> 00:14:10,683 What about the dating of the structure? 201 00:14:10,763 --> 00:14:12,843 Are there carbon dates from the earliest phases? 202 00:14:12,923 --> 00:14:18,883 No. We've had ceramics that are similar to ceramics from the basin of Mexico 203 00:14:18,963 --> 00:14:21,323 dating to, like, 1000 BC. 204 00:14:21,403 --> 00:14:24,003 Does that give us enough to be confident about the whole story? 205 00:14:24,083 --> 00:14:26,403 No. No, I would say absolutely not. 206 00:14:27,123 --> 00:14:29,563 And there's a tremendous amount of work that needs to be done 207 00:14:29,643 --> 00:14:31,683 -throughout the prehistory of Mexico. -Yeah. 208 00:14:35,563 --> 00:14:38,003 I'm not disputing the archaeological evidence 209 00:14:38,083 --> 00:14:40,043 that dates the first monumental construction 210 00:14:40,123 --> 00:14:42,523 on the site of the Great Pyramid of Cholula 211 00:14:42,603 --> 00:14:46,923 to around 2,300 years ago, but there are older pyramids in Mexico. 212 00:14:50,483 --> 00:14:54,363 And what really interests me are the ideas that underpin them all. 213 00:14:56,363 --> 00:15:00,683 By 1519, when the Spanish conquistadors arrived, 214 00:15:00,763 --> 00:15:04,163 Cholula's Great Pyramid had fallen into disrepair. 215 00:15:05,963 --> 00:15:09,363 But when they realized it was much more than just a hill, 216 00:15:09,443 --> 00:15:11,563 and asked who built it, 217 00:15:11,643 --> 00:15:14,963 the locals regaled them with a fascinating legend. 218 00:15:16,363 --> 00:15:17,803 According to myth, 219 00:15:17,883 --> 00:15:21,003 the Great Pyramid of Cholula was the work of a race of giants. 220 00:15:24,763 --> 00:15:28,363 Once upon a time, there were giants in ancient Mexico, 221 00:15:29,203 --> 00:15:35,563 until the rain god Tlaloc grew angry and sent a great flood to destroy them. 222 00:15:36,683 --> 00:15:39,043 Only seven survived the cataclysm. 223 00:15:40,483 --> 00:15:46,363 Fearing that a second deluge might follow, the giant Xelhua, known as the architect, 224 00:15:46,443 --> 00:15:47,643 went to Cholula, 225 00:15:47,723 --> 00:15:49,483 and with the help of its people 226 00:15:49,563 --> 00:15:52,563 built a massive artificial mountain out of bricks, 227 00:15:54,123 --> 00:15:55,083 a pyramid, 228 00:15:56,003 --> 00:15:59,323 and dedicated it to the worship of Tlaloc, the rain god. 229 00:16:02,603 --> 00:16:05,523 Archaeologists regard this as just a fanciful tale, 230 00:16:06,443 --> 00:16:09,323 but I think that by ignoring it completely, 231 00:16:09,403 --> 00:16:11,723 we're in danger of missing some important clues 232 00:16:11,803 --> 00:16:14,083 to the origins of this incredible place. 233 00:16:16,443 --> 00:16:18,203 Perhaps that architect 234 00:16:18,283 --> 00:16:20,803 who appeared in Cholula after a great flood, 235 00:16:20,883 --> 00:16:22,603 wasn't a physical giant, 236 00:16:23,763 --> 00:16:25,803 but one of the intellectual giants 237 00:16:25,883 --> 00:16:29,523 of an advanced civilization lost to history. 238 00:16:34,163 --> 00:16:36,723 We shouldn't expect the evidence to be easy to find, 239 00:16:37,963 --> 00:16:42,483 precisely because, as at Cholula, ancient monuments are often located 240 00:16:42,563 --> 00:16:45,883 directly on top of still older constructions, 241 00:16:45,963 --> 00:16:47,643 obscuring their origins. 242 00:16:50,483 --> 00:16:52,563 About a two-hour drive to the northwest, 243 00:16:54,403 --> 00:16:57,443 another remarkable site offers me my next clue. 244 00:17:04,563 --> 00:17:07,523 Perched atop this uniquely-shaped hill 245 00:17:07,603 --> 00:17:11,203 is an ancient Aztec complex known as Texcotzingo. 246 00:17:19,963 --> 00:17:23,122 Here at Texcotzingo, we encounter a pyramid again, 247 00:17:23,723 --> 00:17:26,603 this time a creation of the Earth herself. 248 00:17:28,003 --> 00:17:29,923 It's easy to understand why this place 249 00:17:30,003 --> 00:17:33,203 could have exerted a powerful magnetism on the ancients. 250 00:17:35,203 --> 00:17:38,043 Pyramids clearly mattered in ancient Mexico. 251 00:17:39,403 --> 00:17:41,563 Here, in the 15th century, 252 00:17:41,643 --> 00:17:46,123 the Aztecs built a remarkable network of garden terraces and pools 253 00:17:47,483 --> 00:17:50,203 fed by cleverly constructed aqueducts 254 00:17:50,283 --> 00:17:54,523 that carried water down from a reservoir at the mountain's top. 255 00:17:56,243 --> 00:18:00,683 It's like the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Mesoamerican style. 256 00:18:02,963 --> 00:18:06,003 But intriguingly, from my investigations, 257 00:18:06,083 --> 00:18:09,603 all of it was dedicated to the same ancient god 258 00:18:09,683 --> 00:18:12,763 associated with the earliest pyramid at Cholula… 259 00:18:14,523 --> 00:18:21,123 Tlaloc, the god of rains and floods, whose cult long predated the Aztecs. 260 00:18:24,003 --> 00:18:25,963 Archaeologists believe that the Aztecs 261 00:18:26,043 --> 00:18:28,923 were the first to pay attention to Texcotzingo, 262 00:18:29,803 --> 00:18:32,483 but could this incredible site be much older? 263 00:18:36,803 --> 00:18:39,163 The Spanish conquistadors took it for granted 264 00:18:39,243 --> 00:18:42,563 that Texcotzingo was entirely the work of the Aztecs, 265 00:18:44,283 --> 00:18:47,603 and that is what most archaeologists will tell you too. 266 00:18:48,963 --> 00:18:53,523 But what if the Aztecs simply renovated and added to a site 267 00:18:53,603 --> 00:18:56,803 originally created by a much older civilization? 268 00:18:59,843 --> 00:19:05,403 Author Marco Vigato believes the evidence suggests that's exactly what happened. 269 00:19:06,803 --> 00:19:10,323 This site was clearly reworked over a very long period of time. 270 00:19:10,403 --> 00:19:13,363 The rock was a very hard type of porphyry stone. 271 00:19:13,443 --> 00:19:15,483 If you look around at the site here, 272 00:19:15,563 --> 00:19:18,963 you see that some of the stone surfaces are very heavily weathered. 273 00:19:19,603 --> 00:19:22,683 Some parts of the site that clearly show evidence of erosion 274 00:19:22,763 --> 00:19:24,683 must have continued for thousands of years, 275 00:19:24,763 --> 00:19:28,163 taking into account this is an extremely hard type of stone. 276 00:19:30,243 --> 00:19:32,123 [Graham] Right. So in your view, the Aztecs, 277 00:19:32,203 --> 00:19:34,123 well, we know they were latecomers, 278 00:19:34,563 --> 00:19:39,403 but they found this site at least partially worked already 279 00:19:39,483 --> 00:19:41,003 and they took it over 280 00:19:41,083 --> 00:19:42,843 -and developed it further. -Right. 281 00:19:43,723 --> 00:19:45,443 [Graham] It's a radical thought. 282 00:19:47,003 --> 00:19:49,723 Could a much older culture have carved out 283 00:19:49,803 --> 00:19:53,283 some of the more unusual features on the side of the hill? 284 00:19:55,603 --> 00:19:58,683 Like these deeply-weathered megaliths strewn on the ground. 285 00:20:01,883 --> 00:20:04,923 And this chamber carved out of the bedrock. 286 00:20:07,643 --> 00:20:09,883 This was almost certainly a pre-Aztec site. 287 00:20:09,963 --> 00:20:12,843 -Mmm-hmm. -It was simply reoccupied and reused. 288 00:20:14,723 --> 00:20:17,883 [Graham] It's a conclusion archaeologists would dispute, 289 00:20:17,963 --> 00:20:20,283 but there's some relevant evidence to consider. 290 00:20:22,363 --> 00:20:26,443 Not far away, in a dried-up riverbed at the foot of a mountain, 291 00:20:26,523 --> 00:20:29,963 a huge statue of the rain god Tlaloc was uncovered. 292 00:20:31,763 --> 00:20:35,923 The largest single cut stone in the entire Americas. 293 00:20:40,243 --> 00:20:44,083 Archaeologists have dated it to around 700 AD, 294 00:20:45,763 --> 00:20:48,603 long before the Aztecs dominated these lands. 295 00:20:51,123 --> 00:20:53,963 It's proof that Tlaloc, the rain god, 296 00:20:54,043 --> 00:20:57,683 had already been worshipped in this area by earlier cultures, 297 00:20:57,763 --> 00:21:00,603 perhaps under several different names, 298 00:21:00,683 --> 00:21:04,163 for nearly a thousand years, and maybe longer. 299 00:21:08,963 --> 00:21:12,363 In fact, Tlaloc, as a mythological character, 300 00:21:12,443 --> 00:21:13,803 goes back all the way 301 00:21:13,883 --> 00:21:16,803 to the earliest known cultures of prehistoric Mexico. 302 00:21:20,243 --> 00:21:21,523 And he's not alone. 303 00:21:23,323 --> 00:21:26,883 The global floods sent by the rain god sets the stage 304 00:21:26,963 --> 00:21:31,043 for the appearance of the most intriguing character in Mexican mythology… 305 00:21:33,003 --> 00:21:34,403 Quetzalcoatl. 306 00:21:38,163 --> 00:21:39,883 After the Great Flood, 307 00:21:39,963 --> 00:21:43,443 a stranger from the east landed on Mexico's shores 308 00:21:44,163 --> 00:21:49,163 riding on a boat with no paddles, said to be carried by serpents. 309 00:21:50,803 --> 00:21:53,123 His name was Quetzalcoatl, 310 00:21:53,683 --> 00:21:55,603 meaning, "the feathered serpent." 311 00:21:56,403 --> 00:22:01,003 He and his followers taught the locals how to grow crops and domesticate animals. 312 00:22:02,963 --> 00:22:04,403 He gave them laws 313 00:22:04,483 --> 00:22:08,123 and instructed them in the ways of architecture, astronomy and the arts. 314 00:22:08,763 --> 00:22:10,523 They worshipped him as a deity. 315 00:22:13,083 --> 00:22:17,203 But after being violently ousted by the followers of a Mexican war god, 316 00:22:17,843 --> 00:22:23,443 Quetzalcoatl sailed away towards the east, promising one day to return. 317 00:22:24,043 --> 00:22:26,043 [drums beating] 318 00:22:27,003 --> 00:22:29,323 [native music playing] 319 00:22:29,923 --> 00:22:35,203 The legend of Quetzalcoatl has been told for generations, even down to today. 320 00:22:36,043 --> 00:22:38,003 [man singing in Nahuatl language] 321 00:22:38,083 --> 00:22:41,443 We get a description of a heavily bearded individual. 322 00:22:42,003 --> 00:22:46,043 He sounds a bit like a foreigner from across the ocean, 323 00:22:46,123 --> 00:22:49,363 and he brings the gifts of civilization. 324 00:22:49,443 --> 00:22:53,323 [man continues singing] 325 00:22:53,403 --> 00:22:57,643 [Graham] What I find so astonishing is how often we've heard this story 326 00:22:58,483 --> 00:23:02,523 from cultures that supposedly had no connection with ancient Mexico. 327 00:23:03,523 --> 00:23:04,643 [blowing conch shell] 328 00:23:08,163 --> 00:23:10,883 The setting is always the same. There has been a giant cataclysm. 329 00:23:12,403 --> 00:23:17,643 The world has been plunged into darkness, floods, chaos everywhere. 330 00:23:17,723 --> 00:23:19,163 Society is collapsing. 331 00:23:20,123 --> 00:23:21,403 [thunder rumbling] 332 00:23:23,283 --> 00:23:27,723 And then out of the darkness appears a figure who has knowledge 333 00:23:27,803 --> 00:23:31,043 of what is necessary to make a civilization. 334 00:23:31,923 --> 00:23:35,643 And that figure teaches the demoralized survivors of the cataclysm 335 00:23:35,723 --> 00:23:37,603 how to start civilization again. 336 00:23:39,963 --> 00:23:43,883 In ancient Greek mythology, it's the Titan Prometheus 337 00:23:44,443 --> 00:23:48,763 who, after a great flood, shares with humans the secret of fire. 338 00:23:51,283 --> 00:23:53,123 In the South American Andes, 339 00:23:53,203 --> 00:23:58,163 pre-Inca civilizations describe a robed, bearded figure named Viracocha, 340 00:23:59,163 --> 00:24:01,283 who emerged from a great lake 341 00:24:01,363 --> 00:24:05,403 and taught the local people how to create amazing works of masonry 342 00:24:05,483 --> 00:24:07,163 that still exist today. 343 00:24:08,563 --> 00:24:12,963 Even in the Pacific, Polynesian legends talk of Maui, 344 00:24:13,043 --> 00:24:16,763 who created their islands by pulling them up from the ocean floor, 345 00:24:17,763 --> 00:24:21,243 and then taught the islanders to work with stone tools 346 00:24:21,803 --> 00:24:23,323 and to cook their food. 347 00:24:27,003 --> 00:24:29,723 Archaeologists say that these civilizing heroes 348 00:24:29,803 --> 00:24:33,923 are just inventions of the ancients' elaborate fictions, 349 00:24:34,643 --> 00:24:37,483 but I find the similarities hard to ignore. 350 00:24:38,163 --> 00:24:42,683 What if these accounts describe the survivors of an advanced civilization 351 00:24:42,763 --> 00:24:45,563 that was lost in the great cataclysms of flood and fire 352 00:24:45,643 --> 00:24:48,043 that we know occurred near the end of the last Ice Age? 353 00:24:55,643 --> 00:24:57,323 The myths of Mexico 354 00:24:57,403 --> 00:24:59,963 and the story of Quetzalcoatl in particular, 355 00:25:00,523 --> 00:25:03,723 are tied to just such an apocalyptic moment. 356 00:25:05,363 --> 00:25:08,243 And Marco believes there's a record of it 357 00:25:08,323 --> 00:25:10,843 just a few hours' drive south of Mexico City, 358 00:25:12,643 --> 00:25:14,923 amongst the ancient temples of Xochicalco. 359 00:25:18,803 --> 00:25:22,763 Like Cholula, this city was originally built by an indigenous culture 360 00:25:22,843 --> 00:25:26,483 we know little about in the 7th century AD. 361 00:25:28,203 --> 00:25:30,923 Here, you'll find the remains of two large pyramids. 362 00:25:32,283 --> 00:25:34,483 One dedicated to the rain god, 363 00:25:35,163 --> 00:25:41,363 and the other dedicated to Mexico's civilizing hero, Quetzalcoatl. 364 00:25:44,443 --> 00:25:49,043 I've come here to learn more about these so-called mythical characters. 365 00:25:51,043 --> 00:25:55,243 For archaeologists, myths are fanciful and fragmentary. 366 00:25:56,043 --> 00:25:59,523 They ignore them completely in their attempts to reconstruct the past. 367 00:26:00,883 --> 00:26:03,963 But here at Xochicalco, some researchers see an attempt 368 00:26:04,043 --> 00:26:05,683 to create a permanent record 369 00:26:05,763 --> 00:26:08,723 of one of the most important myths in ancient Mexico. 370 00:26:09,683 --> 00:26:13,843 A record they believe that preserves a forgotten episode in prehistory. 371 00:26:16,883 --> 00:26:20,083 Wrapped around the four sides of Quetzalcoatl's temple 372 00:26:20,163 --> 00:26:22,483 are intricate carvings of this deity 373 00:26:22,563 --> 00:26:25,323 in his manifestation as the feathered serpent. 374 00:26:28,123 --> 00:26:32,403 Clearly, he was an important figure even back in 700 AD. 375 00:26:34,763 --> 00:26:39,043 But Marco believes these glyphs carved in stone 376 00:26:39,123 --> 00:26:42,523 may reveal missing details from his origin story. 377 00:26:43,723 --> 00:26:45,443 What's special about this temple? 378 00:26:45,523 --> 00:26:48,883 So what you have on the lower tier of the pyramid 379 00:26:48,963 --> 00:26:52,923 is really a representation of the arrival of Quetzalcoatl 380 00:26:53,003 --> 00:26:55,443 that unfolds on the three sides… 381 00:26:55,523 --> 00:26:57,083 -Yeah. -…of the pyramid 382 00:26:57,163 --> 00:27:01,403 until we get here to the first significant glyph, here. 383 00:27:01,483 --> 00:27:04,723 And what you see there is a flaming temple. 384 00:27:04,803 --> 00:27:07,123 You have these scrolls of smoke or fire. 385 00:27:07,203 --> 00:27:09,643 -[Graham] As though it's on fire. -Right. Exactly. 386 00:27:09,723 --> 00:27:12,083 What about the coils of the serpent around it? 387 00:27:12,163 --> 00:27:14,363 How do you read those in this context? 388 00:27:14,443 --> 00:27:16,683 [Marco] Right, well, this is the tail of the serpent. 389 00:27:16,763 --> 00:27:19,603 -Yeah. -So, it wraps around this flaming temple. 390 00:27:19,683 --> 00:27:22,203 It almost looks like a wave hitting… 391 00:27:22,283 --> 00:27:24,603 -Okay. -…the temple from the side. 392 00:27:24,683 --> 00:27:28,563 You could almost see that as a representation of an island. 393 00:27:29,203 --> 00:27:31,843 So, we have a temple which is on fire 394 00:27:31,923 --> 00:27:34,043 and waves are washing over it in your reading? 395 00:27:34,123 --> 00:27:35,443 -Exactly. -Yeah. 396 00:27:38,243 --> 00:27:40,683 Give me your interpretation of this scene, Marco. 397 00:27:40,763 --> 00:27:43,723 [Marco] Well, you have this clearly powerful sitting figure 398 00:27:43,803 --> 00:27:46,523 who looks like on a raft of snakes 399 00:27:46,603 --> 00:27:51,123 that's almost heading away from the direction of this flaming temple. 400 00:27:51,803 --> 00:27:54,963 [Graham] What you're seeing here is the depiction of a cataclysm 401 00:27:55,043 --> 00:28:00,403 which occurs in a certain place, which Quetzalcoatl then is a survivor of. 402 00:28:00,483 --> 00:28:05,483 You have this idea of the god coming from a land that was destroyed. 403 00:28:05,563 --> 00:28:09,763 And what you have is the arrival of the god Quetzalcoatl here in Mexico 404 00:28:09,843 --> 00:28:12,363 as a founder of Mesoamerican civilization. 405 00:28:13,363 --> 00:28:16,443 It's a chronicle that goes back to a very remote past. 406 00:28:22,403 --> 00:28:25,003 [Graham] Marco's reading of the temple's glyphs 407 00:28:25,083 --> 00:28:27,683 as a depiction of an ancient apocalypse 408 00:28:27,763 --> 00:28:30,283 flies in the face of all archaeological opinion. 409 00:28:31,563 --> 00:28:34,643 But that doesn't necessarily mean he's wrong. 410 00:28:36,523 --> 00:28:40,243 The Temple of The Feathered Serpent is about 1,300 years old, 411 00:28:40,323 --> 00:28:42,643 and archaeologists are right to say 412 00:28:42,723 --> 00:28:45,723 that there was no global cataclysm in that epoch 413 00:28:45,803 --> 00:28:48,403 that could have inspired the Quetzalcoatl myth. 414 00:28:48,963 --> 00:28:50,763 This misses the point. 415 00:28:50,843 --> 00:28:54,003 The tradition is certainly much older than the temple. 416 00:28:54,083 --> 00:28:56,043 How much older? No one knows. 417 00:28:56,123 --> 00:29:00,243 But there's one period of prehistory that fits the bill perfectly. 418 00:29:02,163 --> 00:29:06,683 Geologists have confirmed that there was an ancient apocalypse of some kind. 419 00:29:07,523 --> 00:29:10,123 A period of great cataclysms and floods 420 00:29:10,203 --> 00:29:14,683 that had as big an impact here as it did nearly everywhere else in the world… 421 00:29:16,883 --> 00:29:22,803 sometime at the end of the last Ice Age, around 12,800 years ago. 422 00:29:23,643 --> 00:29:28,523 Could the story of Quetzalcoatl's arrival date back as far as that? 423 00:29:34,603 --> 00:29:38,483 I do not question the age of the structure itself. 424 00:29:38,563 --> 00:29:42,963 What you have here is just the telling of a story that is in fact much older. 425 00:29:43,763 --> 00:29:46,083 So, perhaps what's sadly lacking in archaeology 426 00:29:46,163 --> 00:29:47,603 is an archaeology of ideas. 427 00:29:47,683 --> 00:29:51,323 Perhaps they focus too much on the dates of a particular construction 428 00:29:51,403 --> 00:29:53,403 and don't consider the ideas that it's expressing. 429 00:29:53,483 --> 00:29:54,483 [Marco] Right. 430 00:29:56,643 --> 00:29:59,563 [Graham] If we're willing to look back beyond the artificial horizons 431 00:29:59,643 --> 00:30:01,683 that archeology sets, 432 00:30:01,763 --> 00:30:04,523 then the myth at once begins to make sense, 433 00:30:04,603 --> 00:30:07,283 not as a fanciful account of imagined events, 434 00:30:07,363 --> 00:30:10,283 but as a true record of a lost and forgotten past. 435 00:30:14,443 --> 00:30:17,923 Archaeologists reject any such suggestion, 436 00:30:19,763 --> 00:30:21,923 but I find it impossible to ignore 437 00:30:22,003 --> 00:30:25,883 how widespread these tales of civilizing heroes are. 438 00:30:27,443 --> 00:30:29,843 Sometimes speaking of gods, sometimes of humans, 439 00:30:31,043 --> 00:30:33,883 who come in a time of chaos after the great cataclysm. 440 00:30:35,603 --> 00:30:37,283 Teaching the skills of agriculture, 441 00:30:37,363 --> 00:30:40,843 architecture, engineering and astronomy to the survivors. 442 00:30:42,603 --> 00:30:43,523 In these traditions, 443 00:30:43,603 --> 00:30:47,403 I believe the fingerprints of a lost civilization are to be found. 444 00:30:49,043 --> 00:30:54,483 So, where was this lost civilization based before the cataclysm that destroyed it? 445 00:30:55,523 --> 00:30:59,403 There are many possibilities that have never been properly considered. 446 00:30:59,483 --> 00:31:02,803 Because, as we've seen, at the height of the last Ice Age, 447 00:31:03,723 --> 00:31:05,763 the planet looked very different. 448 00:31:07,123 --> 00:31:10,643 But further clues await us a quarter of the way around the world. 449 00:31:11,683 --> 00:31:14,003 There, just as in Cholula, 450 00:31:14,083 --> 00:31:17,163 dozens of immense temples were believed to have been built 451 00:31:17,243 --> 00:31:19,003 by an ancient race of giants, 452 00:31:20,243 --> 00:31:26,163 on islands that once weren't islands, in the heart of the Mediterranean Sea. 453 00:31:26,243 --> 00:31:28,923 And that's where my journey takes me next, 454 00:31:29,003 --> 00:31:31,483 to a gigantic riddle in stone. 455 00:31:32,323 --> 00:31:35,283 The mysterious megaliths of Malta.