1 00:00:08,468 --> 00:00:15,767 ** 2 00:00:15,808 --> 00:00:23,191 ** 3 00:00:23,232 --> 00:00:26,069 -Just waiting for Casey. 4 00:00:26,110 --> 00:00:28,112 No sign of her yet. 5 00:00:28,154 --> 00:00:34,660 ** 6 00:00:34,702 --> 00:00:41,042 ** 7 00:00:41,084 --> 00:00:43,169 -[ Sighs ] 8 00:00:43,211 --> 00:00:50,885 ** 9 00:00:50,927 --> 00:00:53,346 Okay. 10 00:00:53,388 --> 00:00:55,306 Yeah, that works. 11 00:00:56,682 --> 00:00:59,352 I have some stuff I can put up. 12 00:00:59,394 --> 00:01:01,813 I can work with that. 13 00:01:01,854 --> 00:01:07,527 ** 14 00:01:07,568 --> 00:01:12,990 ** 15 00:01:13,032 --> 00:01:14,909 Bedding, for sure. 16 00:01:17,161 --> 00:01:19,831 I have part of my life in several bags. 17 00:01:21,499 --> 00:01:24,585 Some of the most priceless things that I have. 18 00:01:24,627 --> 00:01:25,878 -Why? 19 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,506 -Some of the only things I have left of Caylee. 20 00:01:28,548 --> 00:01:34,595 ** 21 00:01:34,637 --> 00:01:37,432 -This one. 22 00:01:37,473 --> 00:01:40,685 -Casey, why not just do the interview at your house? 23 00:01:41,561 --> 00:01:44,272 -Um, I like my privacy. 24 00:01:44,313 --> 00:01:46,858 Um, I also have a roommate 25 00:01:46,899 --> 00:01:50,820 whose privacy I take very, very seriously. 26 00:01:53,448 --> 00:01:57,034 And that's also my safe space 27 00:01:57,076 --> 00:02:00,455 away from the outside world, 28 00:02:00,496 --> 00:02:03,332 away from anything scary. 29 00:02:03,374 --> 00:02:10,548 ** 30 00:02:10,590 --> 00:02:13,426 This was up in my mom's house. 31 00:02:13,468 --> 00:02:15,303 Caylee was just a few months old here. 32 00:02:15,344 --> 00:02:19,724 I've had this up since 2005. 33 00:02:19,766 --> 00:02:22,018 And it's gone with me everywhere I've gone. 34 00:02:22,060 --> 00:02:23,895 So... 35 00:02:23,936 --> 00:02:25,855 This... 36 00:02:25,897 --> 00:02:27,148 [ Chuckles ] 37 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:28,775 This is one of my favorite pictures 38 00:02:28,816 --> 00:02:32,862 because she just had this look of angst on her face, 39 00:02:32,904 --> 00:02:34,572 like, "You're stopping me for what? 40 00:02:34,614 --> 00:02:36,365 To take my picture again." 41 00:02:36,407 --> 00:02:38,868 Her Princess Leia wig. Two-layered tutu. 42 00:02:38,910 --> 00:02:40,953 She's actually wearing butterfly wings that you can't see. 43 00:02:40,995 --> 00:02:43,706 The pink cowboy boots. I let her dress herself. 44 00:02:43,748 --> 00:02:45,875 She's running around screaming, 45 00:02:45,917 --> 00:02:47,877 having the time of her life on my mom's porch. 46 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,213 And I asked her to stop so I could get a picture. 47 00:02:50,254 --> 00:02:52,924 And she does this. This. 48 00:02:52,965 --> 00:02:55,093 Makes this face. 49 00:02:55,134 --> 00:02:58,721 And then I go, "Okay, bye." And runs around again. 50 00:02:58,763 --> 00:03:01,724 Like the little fairy princess that she was. 51 00:03:01,766 --> 00:03:05,103 Thankfully, I have things like this to look back at, 52 00:03:05,144 --> 00:03:06,604 things like this. 53 00:03:08,356 --> 00:03:09,649 These moments that I had with her. 54 00:03:09,690 --> 00:03:11,567 I was with her when she did this. 55 00:03:11,609 --> 00:03:14,570 We broke probably every single one of these crayons. 56 00:03:14,612 --> 00:03:19,283 Those moments were happy, innocent. 57 00:03:19,325 --> 00:03:21,786 There was no trauma. 58 00:03:21,828 --> 00:03:25,748 There was no darkness in those moments. 59 00:03:25,790 --> 00:03:30,169 And too much of her memory is surrounded by that now. 60 00:03:30,211 --> 00:03:34,590 ** 61 00:03:34,632 --> 00:03:36,134 -Our top story this morning. 62 00:03:36,175 --> 00:03:37,593 A 2-year-old girl is missing, 63 00:03:37,635 --> 00:03:39,679 and detectives say her mother has provided them 64 00:03:39,721 --> 00:03:42,140 with more lies than information. 65 00:03:43,349 --> 00:03:46,436 -Casey Anthony reported her 3-year-old daughter missing 66 00:03:46,477 --> 00:03:47,854 in mid-July. 67 00:03:47,895 --> 00:03:50,481 -The child was reported missing 31 days late. 68 00:03:55,153 --> 00:03:57,822 -Investigators said she'd given them bogus information 69 00:03:57,864 --> 00:04:01,284 about her employer and where she dropped off the child. 70 00:04:01,325 --> 00:04:03,411 -Casey kept on going out and having fun 71 00:04:03,453 --> 00:04:06,122 while her daughter was missing. 72 00:04:06,164 --> 00:04:08,916 -Caylee's remains were hidden in the woods. 73 00:04:08,958 --> 00:04:11,794 -Mother Casey Anthony has been charged with her murder. 74 00:04:11,836 --> 00:04:15,173 -Caylee died because her mother decided 75 00:04:15,214 --> 00:04:18,217 that the life that she wanted was more important. 76 00:04:18,259 --> 00:04:19,469 -Justice for Caylee! 77 00:04:19,510 --> 00:04:21,596 -This is the Super Bowl of trials. 78 00:04:21,637 --> 00:04:24,640 -The most famous murder case since O.J. Simpson. 79 00:04:24,682 --> 00:04:26,726 -The jury is entering the courtroom right now. 80 00:04:26,768 --> 00:04:29,604 This is the Casey Anthony trial verdict coming back. 81 00:04:30,855 --> 00:04:32,774 -As to the charge of first-degree murder, 82 00:04:32,815 --> 00:04:35,818 we, the jury, find the defendant not guilty. 83 00:04:37,111 --> 00:04:38,321 [ All gasping ] 84 00:04:38,362 --> 00:04:41,282 -No regard at all for that baby. 85 00:04:41,324 --> 00:04:43,326 What is wrong with these people? 86 00:04:43,367 --> 00:04:46,496 -The devil is dancing tonight. 87 00:04:46,537 --> 00:04:48,998 -Casey Anthony has enemies worldwide now. 88 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,876 -She better start buying a condo in Zimbabwe 89 00:04:51,918 --> 00:04:54,003 because there's nowhere in Florida 90 00:04:54,045 --> 00:04:55,671 this woman would be able to live. 91 00:04:55,713 --> 00:04:58,508 -Casey Anthony has stayed out of the public eye. 92 00:04:58,549 --> 00:05:01,094 She has not done a single on-camera interview 93 00:05:01,135 --> 00:05:03,721 since she was acquitted in her murder trial. 94 00:05:03,763 --> 00:05:05,765 -Casey's never told her story. 95 00:05:05,807 --> 00:05:07,642 There's questions like, 96 00:05:07,683 --> 00:05:09,644 well, does she have something to hide? 97 00:05:09,685 --> 00:05:11,354 -She completely disappeared. 98 00:05:11,396 --> 00:05:13,856 And actions speak louder than words. 99 00:05:13,898 --> 00:05:16,442 -If you could speak to Casey now, what would you say to her? 100 00:05:16,484 --> 00:05:18,528 -Listen, I think I would just ask her, 101 00:05:18,569 --> 00:05:21,406 "Look, just tell us why." 102 00:05:21,447 --> 00:05:22,657 -Why what? 103 00:05:22,698 --> 00:05:24,283 -Why you killed your daughter. 104 00:05:24,325 --> 00:05:33,084 ** 105 00:05:33,126 --> 00:05:41,467 ** 106 00:05:41,509 --> 00:05:43,261 -All right, Katie, do you want to slate? 107 00:05:43,302 --> 00:05:44,929 -I'm about to. 108 00:05:47,473 --> 00:05:49,434 -Okay. 109 00:05:49,475 --> 00:05:53,646 Casey interview. ABC marker, soft sticks. 110 00:05:59,610 --> 00:06:00,862 -Why talk to me now 111 00:06:00,903 --> 00:06:03,614 when you're not getting creative control? 112 00:06:05,616 --> 00:06:08,703 -I just need someone to be willing to listen. 113 00:06:10,455 --> 00:06:11,664 And I've spent the last 10 years 114 00:06:11,706 --> 00:06:14,959 making sure that I knew who I was. 115 00:06:15,001 --> 00:06:18,004 That I started to cope with this loss. 116 00:06:18,046 --> 00:06:21,591 And that I had something to say to make my daughter proud, 117 00:06:21,632 --> 00:06:24,343 but also to honor her properly. 118 00:06:24,385 --> 00:06:26,888 And this is part of that. 119 00:06:26,929 --> 00:06:30,767 It's hard because a thousand questions go through my head. 120 00:06:30,808 --> 00:06:33,311 I'm responsible for answering every-- 121 00:06:33,352 --> 00:06:35,229 everyone in the world's questions 122 00:06:35,271 --> 00:06:38,941 about her, about what happened. 123 00:06:40,318 --> 00:06:42,070 I still don't know. 124 00:06:42,111 --> 00:06:46,240 -What? -What happened to Caylee. 125 00:06:46,282 --> 00:06:48,534 I know what I'm afraid of. 126 00:06:48,576 --> 00:06:50,203 I know what eats at me at night. 127 00:06:50,244 --> 00:06:53,581 I know what eats at me day after day. 128 00:06:53,623 --> 00:06:55,625 Because I know what I lived through. 129 00:06:55,666 --> 00:07:00,630 ** 130 00:07:00,671 --> 00:07:03,841 [ Insects chirping ] 131 00:07:03,883 --> 00:07:10,973 ** 132 00:07:11,015 --> 00:07:13,393 -All right. Where are we going? -That way. Only one way. 133 00:07:13,434 --> 00:07:15,186 -All right, let's do it. 134 00:07:17,939 --> 00:07:20,775 -Oh, great. -I've never seen any. 135 00:07:20,817 --> 00:07:22,151 I've been coming here for over a year. 136 00:07:22,193 --> 00:07:24,570 I've never seen an alligator. We're fine. 137 00:07:24,612 --> 00:07:30,034 ** 138 00:07:30,076 --> 00:07:31,994 -How often do you do a hike like this? 139 00:07:32,036 --> 00:07:34,080 -I come here quite a bit. I have a few other places 140 00:07:34,122 --> 00:07:37,333 I like to go to that are secluded. 141 00:07:37,375 --> 00:07:39,711 There usually aren't people. 142 00:07:41,963 --> 00:07:47,719 I've had really bad social anxiety for the last decade. 143 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,055 Going to crowded places by myself 144 00:07:51,097 --> 00:07:54,684 is not something I feel comfortable doing anymore. 145 00:07:54,726 --> 00:07:57,520 [ Beep, shutter clicks ] 146 00:07:57,562 --> 00:08:00,356 I typically take pictures when I'm here. 147 00:08:00,398 --> 00:08:06,487 ** 148 00:08:06,529 --> 00:08:08,322 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 149 00:08:08,364 --> 00:08:10,783 ** 150 00:08:10,825 --> 00:08:12,869 -Casey, what's your tattoo? 151 00:08:12,910 --> 00:08:18,374 -This? It's peonies and half a mandala. 152 00:08:18,416 --> 00:08:21,544 Symbolizes growth, rebirth. 153 00:08:21,586 --> 00:08:23,629 [ Shutter clicks ] 154 00:08:23,671 --> 00:08:26,299 I have fought so hard for a normal life. 155 00:08:30,428 --> 00:08:33,264 My defense team was very adamant about making sure 156 00:08:33,306 --> 00:08:37,643 that I was able to have a fresh start after the trial. 157 00:08:37,685 --> 00:08:39,896 I didn't receive any help or assistance 158 00:08:39,937 --> 00:08:42,982 from my biological family. 159 00:08:43,024 --> 00:08:47,403 I was given a little bit of money from my defense team 160 00:08:47,445 --> 00:08:51,532 to start to get on my feet. 161 00:08:51,574 --> 00:08:57,413 They're not just my legal team, but my surrogate family here. 162 00:08:57,455 --> 00:09:00,249 -I found a little apartment just north of my house downtown by... 163 00:09:00,291 --> 00:09:03,878 -Pat McKenna was lead investigator during my case. 164 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,213 I've been working for Pat McKenna 165 00:09:05,254 --> 00:09:08,257 as his research assistant for 10 1/2 years. 166 00:09:08,299 --> 00:09:11,219 -Okay, so I guess we'll make a file and printout. 167 00:09:11,260 --> 00:09:13,429 -Give me two seconds and I'll see if I can Word search 168 00:09:13,471 --> 00:09:14,806 the document and find it. 169 00:09:14,847 --> 00:09:16,891 I've worked a lot of cases over the years. 170 00:09:16,933 --> 00:09:19,060 It's the whole reason I'm doing what I'm doing now 171 00:09:19,102 --> 00:09:23,398 to pay forward everything that was done for me. 172 00:09:23,439 --> 00:09:25,650 I've spent the last 10 1/2 years 173 00:09:25,691 --> 00:09:28,486 doing primarily criminal defense work 174 00:09:28,528 --> 00:09:31,239 because I don't ever want to see someone be pigeonholed 175 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,617 by not only law enforcement, but the media, 176 00:09:34,659 --> 00:09:36,828 be railroaded like I was. 177 00:09:38,663 --> 00:09:41,457 I like my life. 178 00:09:41,499 --> 00:09:45,962 At least there are moments where I feel like I'm not alone, 179 00:09:46,003 --> 00:09:48,965 where those holes in my heart that will never go away 180 00:09:49,006 --> 00:09:51,134 feel a little bit smaller. 181 00:09:51,175 --> 00:10:00,143 ** 182 00:10:00,184 --> 00:10:03,688 Caylee was born in August of 2005. 183 00:10:05,523 --> 00:10:07,191 I was 19. 184 00:10:07,233 --> 00:10:12,864 ** 185 00:10:12,905 --> 00:10:15,908 The few pictures that I do have of me with her 186 00:10:15,950 --> 00:10:18,661 that other people took was when she was first born. 187 00:10:18,703 --> 00:10:28,004 ** 188 00:10:28,046 --> 00:10:31,382 That was the best decision that I ever made in my life, 189 00:10:31,424 --> 00:10:34,635 was having a kid, was becoming a mom. 190 00:10:34,677 --> 00:10:40,600 ** 191 00:10:40,641 --> 00:10:42,351 She was perfect. 192 00:10:45,855 --> 00:10:48,524 [ Chuckles ] 193 00:10:48,566 --> 00:10:49,776 [ Sighs ] 194 00:10:49,817 --> 00:10:51,736 [ Sniffles ] 195 00:10:51,778 --> 00:10:53,905 The only person in this world 196 00:10:53,946 --> 00:10:57,575 that matters to me still is my daughter. 197 00:10:57,617 --> 00:11:01,788 But I'm still defending the fact that I didn't hurt her. 198 00:11:01,829 --> 00:11:06,042 I live it every single day. 199 00:11:06,084 --> 00:11:08,127 And no one can ever tell me 200 00:11:08,169 --> 00:11:11,047 I should just get over the fact that my daughter isn't here 201 00:11:11,089 --> 00:11:14,592 and I've been blamed for her being gone. 202 00:11:14,634 --> 00:11:20,890 ** 203 00:11:20,932 --> 00:11:28,523 ** 204 00:11:28,564 --> 00:11:37,115 ** 205 00:11:37,156 --> 00:11:39,784 -My name is John Allen. 206 00:11:39,826 --> 00:11:42,036 At the time of the Anthony case, 207 00:11:42,078 --> 00:11:45,039 I was a sergeant at the Orange County Sheriff's Office, 208 00:11:45,081 --> 00:11:49,627 and I supervised the Anthony investigation. 209 00:11:49,669 --> 00:11:52,004 It was an odd story. 210 00:11:52,046 --> 00:11:53,631 Certainly, the night this happened, 211 00:11:53,673 --> 00:11:56,634 nobody thought it would turn out the way that it's turned out. 212 00:12:00,430 --> 00:12:05,935 On July 15, 2008, Cindy Anthony, Caylee's grandmother, 213 00:12:05,977 --> 00:12:07,687 called 911. 214 00:12:25,788 --> 00:12:29,083 ** 215 00:12:29,125 --> 00:12:31,711 -What we believe we have at this point is a 3-year-old 216 00:12:31,753 --> 00:12:34,630 that's been missing for a month. Didn't make sense. 217 00:12:34,672 --> 00:12:37,884 I mean, you know, usually, when a child goes missing, 218 00:12:37,925 --> 00:12:40,094 parents report it right away. 219 00:13:01,949 --> 00:13:10,124 ** 220 00:13:10,166 --> 00:13:13,336 -So here we are at Hopespring Drive, 221 00:13:13,378 --> 00:13:15,880 the Anthony home. 222 00:13:15,922 --> 00:13:17,382 My name's Eric Edwards. 223 00:13:17,423 --> 00:13:19,926 One of the homicide investigators came to my desk 224 00:13:19,967 --> 00:13:24,972 and said, "Are you aware of what John Allen and Yuri have going?" 225 00:13:25,014 --> 00:13:26,432 That night, Yuri Melich 226 00:13:26,474 --> 00:13:29,769 was the on-call missing persons investigator. 227 00:13:29,811 --> 00:13:32,105 He spent a great deal of time with Casey 228 00:13:32,146 --> 00:13:33,523 trying to collect information 229 00:13:33,564 --> 00:13:36,067 that may lead to the location of Caylee. 230 00:13:36,109 --> 00:13:43,741 ** 231 00:14:06,222 --> 00:14:09,308 ** 232 00:14:09,350 --> 00:14:14,188 At that point, Yuri affords Casey an opportunity to take him 233 00:14:14,230 --> 00:14:17,650 to several locations in the Orlando area 234 00:14:17,692 --> 00:14:22,822 in an effort to try to determine where the child may be. 235 00:14:22,864 --> 00:14:30,580 ** 236 00:14:30,621 --> 00:14:32,623 -He drove her to the apartment where Casey said 237 00:14:32,665 --> 00:14:34,625 she had dropped Caylee off. 238 00:14:34,667 --> 00:14:36,836 There was no Zenaida Gonzalez that lived at the place. 239 00:14:36,878 --> 00:14:40,214 In fact, that apartment had been vacant for months. 240 00:14:42,633 --> 00:14:45,470 And of course, we learned pretty quickly 241 00:14:45,511 --> 00:14:47,972 that she was lying about a lot of things. 242 00:14:50,641 --> 00:14:52,602 In Yuri's interview with her, 243 00:14:52,643 --> 00:14:56,022 Casey said she worked at Universal Studios. 244 00:14:56,064 --> 00:14:58,691 And, so, that morning, Detective Melich went 245 00:14:58,733 --> 00:15:00,860 to Universal and found out that she -- 246 00:15:00,902 --> 00:15:03,154 that she wasn't an employee, she didn't work there. 247 00:15:03,196 --> 00:15:05,740 So I told him to stay there and I would go pick her up 248 00:15:05,782 --> 00:15:07,492 and I would bring her to Universal 249 00:15:07,533 --> 00:15:10,453 and we would see what she would do, how she would react, 250 00:15:10,495 --> 00:15:12,371 thinking, at that point, 251 00:15:12,413 --> 00:15:13,873 she would admit that she was making it up 252 00:15:13,915 --> 00:15:15,666 and she didn't really work there. 253 00:15:15,708 --> 00:15:17,210 But that's not the reaction we got. 254 00:15:17,251 --> 00:15:20,046 She said, "Oh, yeah, fine." 255 00:15:20,088 --> 00:15:22,548 We walk into the HR building 256 00:15:22,590 --> 00:15:25,551 where she has told us she has an office, 257 00:15:25,593 --> 00:15:27,428 and she's kind of waving at people, 258 00:15:27,470 --> 00:15:28,930 and they are waving back. 259 00:15:28,971 --> 00:15:31,391 I mean, but they're like, you know, they're waving like... 260 00:15:31,432 --> 00:15:33,267 You could tell by their expressions 261 00:15:33,309 --> 00:15:35,061 that, you know, she doesn't work in the building. 262 00:15:35,103 --> 00:15:38,481 She's not somebody known to the people in there. 263 00:15:40,066 --> 00:15:43,403 We actually turn down a hallway where there's nowhere to go. 264 00:15:43,444 --> 00:15:45,154 It's a dead-end hall. 265 00:15:45,196 --> 00:15:46,489 Casey turned and looked at us 266 00:15:46,531 --> 00:15:49,575 and said, "I don't really work here, so..." 267 00:15:53,287 --> 00:15:55,498 She was arrested for lying to Yuri 268 00:15:55,540 --> 00:15:59,419 during the course of that portion of the investigation. 269 00:15:59,460 --> 00:16:03,923 -Why do you think Casey felt the need to lie? 270 00:16:03,965 --> 00:16:06,426 -Why do I think she felt the need to lie? 271 00:16:06,467 --> 00:16:07,719 I mean, listen, I -- 272 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,096 Look, I think she killed her daughter 273 00:16:10,138 --> 00:16:13,474 and she didn't get in trouble, she didn't want to get caught. 274 00:16:13,516 --> 00:16:19,605 Certainly that -- that would be a motive to lie. 275 00:16:19,647 --> 00:16:21,524 -Casey Anthony held her head high 276 00:16:21,566 --> 00:16:23,109 after being arrested yesterday, 277 00:16:23,151 --> 00:16:26,612 charged with child neglect and lying to the authorities. 278 00:16:26,654 --> 00:16:29,907 So far, investigators had no luck locating that friend 279 00:16:29,949 --> 00:16:32,034 who was supposedly caring for the young girl. 280 00:16:32,076 --> 00:16:34,120 And it's just one more element in a strange story 281 00:16:34,162 --> 00:16:36,956 that has even the woman's own mother concerned. 282 00:16:36,998 --> 00:16:39,083 -Maybe she's confused, maybe she's sick. 283 00:16:39,125 --> 00:16:43,171 Maybe something's happened that she doesn't know. 284 00:16:43,212 --> 00:16:46,424 [ Line ringing ] 285 00:16:46,466 --> 00:16:47,759 Hello? 286 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,302 -Hello. This is a free call from... 287 00:16:49,343 --> 00:16:51,054 -Casey. 288 00:16:51,095 --> 00:16:53,514 -...an inmate from the Orange County Correctional Center. 289 00:17:32,929 --> 00:17:39,394 ** 290 00:17:39,435 --> 00:17:43,731 -That's the first time Casey called her family from the jail. 291 00:17:43,773 --> 00:17:46,609 Did you get the impression that she was as upset 292 00:17:46,651 --> 00:17:48,361 and worried about her daughter as her mother 293 00:17:48,403 --> 00:17:50,363 and her friend were? 294 00:17:50,405 --> 00:17:52,281 Um... 295 00:17:52,323 --> 00:17:56,536 [ Chuckling ] I think this is her being herself. 296 00:17:56,577 --> 00:18:04,961 ** 297 00:18:05,002 --> 00:18:13,010 ** 298 00:18:13,052 --> 00:18:16,097 -I can remember where I was in my home office 299 00:18:16,139 --> 00:18:19,559 when I saw that there was this woman taken into custody, 300 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,521 child neglect, and a child missing for 30 days, 301 00:18:23,563 --> 00:18:24,939 not reported. 302 00:18:24,981 --> 00:18:27,442 At that time, I was an investigative reporter 303 00:18:27,483 --> 00:18:29,569 at WKMG in Orlando. 304 00:18:29,610 --> 00:18:33,156 I wanted to find out more about this family. 305 00:18:35,324 --> 00:18:37,160 George and Cindy. 306 00:18:37,201 --> 00:18:41,664 Early on, they were grandparents who wanted to know, 307 00:18:41,706 --> 00:18:44,542 they said, where their granddaughter was. 308 00:18:44,584 --> 00:18:47,253 -I will walk every inch of this Earth 309 00:18:47,295 --> 00:18:50,798 and open every door and knock on every door. 310 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,510 And I will look in every nook and cranny... 311 00:18:56,387 --> 00:18:59,557 ...until I find her. 312 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:01,726 -You know, they presented to the public 313 00:19:01,768 --> 00:19:05,396 as people who didn't know what happened 314 00:19:05,438 --> 00:19:07,148 and wanted to find Caylee. 315 00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:09,567 -If you could wear this... -I would, I would love to. 316 00:19:09,609 --> 00:19:11,277 -...I would deeply appreciate it. 317 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:16,115 -And then you have this emotional outpouring 318 00:19:16,157 --> 00:19:18,659 on behalf of Caylee. 319 00:19:18,701 --> 00:19:22,997 -Here are the facts. Caylee is missing. 320 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:25,583 -100 showed up at the Anthonys' tonight to pray. 321 00:19:25,625 --> 00:19:27,377 -I've just been keeping in contact 322 00:19:27,418 --> 00:19:28,711 with this story every day. 323 00:19:28,753 --> 00:19:30,630 She's just a precious little angel 324 00:19:30,671 --> 00:19:34,050 that needs support from all around. 325 00:19:37,387 --> 00:19:40,598 -Because of social media, 326 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,225 this took on a life of its own, 327 00:19:42,266 --> 00:19:44,811 where you had these pictures of this beautiful little girl. 328 00:19:44,852 --> 00:19:48,147 You can remember the video of Caylee singing. 329 00:19:48,189 --> 00:19:54,445 -* Please don't take my sunshine away * 330 00:19:54,487 --> 00:19:56,239 -Do you hear her? -As a reporter, 331 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,826 my job changed because it was, like, all-consuming -- 332 00:19:59,867 --> 00:20:02,829 find the next Casey Anthony story. 333 00:20:02,870 --> 00:20:06,290 Because that is what people were watching the news for. 334 00:20:06,332 --> 00:20:10,169 -At that time, we're able to re-create what Casey was doing 335 00:20:10,211 --> 00:20:12,839 and thinking and who she was talking to. 336 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,967 The sheriff's office did a pretty thorough investigation 337 00:20:16,008 --> 00:20:20,888 of her phones, so we made a public-records request. 338 00:20:20,930 --> 00:20:23,099 One of Casey's former boyfriends, 339 00:20:23,141 --> 00:20:25,017 Ricardo Morales, told investigators 340 00:20:25,059 --> 00:20:28,187 that he got a message from Casey saying that she didn't feel 341 00:20:28,229 --> 00:20:29,897 she could participate fully with her friends 342 00:20:29,939 --> 00:20:31,482 because she was a mother. 343 00:20:31,524 --> 00:20:34,360 In early May, she's having a Facebook chat with another guy 344 00:20:34,402 --> 00:20:37,655 and tells him that, "I'm going crazy over here. 345 00:20:37,697 --> 00:20:39,699 At least the kid is passed out." 346 00:20:39,741 --> 00:20:42,910 -Tonight, police named the mom, Casey Anthony, 347 00:20:42,952 --> 00:20:44,662 a person of interest. 348 00:20:44,704 --> 00:20:48,207 Where is 2-year-old Caylee? 349 00:20:48,249 --> 00:20:51,502 -The public thought that Casey didn't want to be a mother. 350 00:20:51,544 --> 00:20:53,880 We don't typically think of mothers as murderers. 351 00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:57,216 'Cause it was like, "Wait, did she murder her daughter?" 352 00:20:59,427 --> 00:21:00,928 -Good afternoon. 353 00:21:00,970 --> 00:21:04,724 We found more inconsistencies in the mother's story. 354 00:21:04,766 --> 00:21:06,893 So we continue to look for witnesses and people 355 00:21:06,934 --> 00:21:09,312 that may have additional information. 356 00:21:11,272 --> 00:21:13,691 We went back and we listened to the 911 tapes, 357 00:21:13,733 --> 00:21:17,320 and we hear Cindy's frantic voice. 358 00:21:24,452 --> 00:21:26,120 -She's saying that Casey's car 359 00:21:26,162 --> 00:21:27,997 smells like there's been a dead body in it. 360 00:21:31,125 --> 00:21:34,504 -There's been some testimony about a car 361 00:21:34,545 --> 00:21:37,965 that Ms. Anthony had the use of. 362 00:21:38,007 --> 00:21:41,260 -It was a white Pontiac, and it was initially recovered 363 00:21:41,302 --> 00:21:43,805 at their residence on Hopespring Drive. 364 00:21:43,846 --> 00:21:46,307 We brought it in to our forensics bay. 365 00:21:46,349 --> 00:21:48,643 -When we walked into the forensics bay, 366 00:21:48,684 --> 00:21:51,104 it was clear to all of us, 367 00:21:51,145 --> 00:21:53,356 if you've smelled that odor before, 368 00:21:53,398 --> 00:21:56,567 it's pretty unmistakable. 369 00:21:56,609 --> 00:21:58,945 We brought cadaver dogs in. 370 00:21:58,986 --> 00:22:00,905 The dog will indicate to the handler in some way 371 00:22:00,947 --> 00:22:03,366 that maybe a dead body has been there. 372 00:22:03,408 --> 00:22:07,120 -He alerted to the odor of human decomposition. 373 00:22:07,161 --> 00:22:10,123 -In the trunk of that car? -Yes, ma'am. 374 00:22:10,164 --> 00:22:11,833 -This pointed us 375 00:22:11,874 --> 00:22:14,585 in the direction that this child is dead. 376 00:22:14,627 --> 00:22:15,962 And not only was she dead, 377 00:22:16,003 --> 00:22:19,132 she had been in the trunk of Casey's car. 378 00:22:19,173 --> 00:22:23,720 And, so -- And, obviously, we couldn't say that for sure, 379 00:22:23,761 --> 00:22:26,639 but it seemed pretty likely. 380 00:22:26,681 --> 00:22:29,892 At this point, Casey was in jail. 381 00:22:29,934 --> 00:22:34,063 And we all believed that we arrested the right person. 382 00:22:40,945 --> 00:22:44,782 ** 383 00:22:44,824 --> 00:22:46,492 -Here we go. 384 00:22:46,534 --> 00:22:50,246 -Casey Anthony walked out of a Florida jail Friday morning. 385 00:22:50,288 --> 00:22:52,707 The mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony 386 00:22:52,749 --> 00:22:55,418 was released on a $500,000 bond. 387 00:22:55,460 --> 00:22:59,672 -Hey, back off, you guys! Let her through! 388 00:22:59,714 --> 00:23:02,842 -Get out of our neighborhood! -We live here. 389 00:23:02,884 --> 00:23:04,177 -Tonight, the search for Caylee 390 00:23:04,218 --> 00:23:06,679 reaches a boiling point, as you can see and hear. 391 00:23:06,721 --> 00:23:09,265 Neighbors fighting back protesters demanding 392 00:23:09,307 --> 00:23:11,392 Casey Anthony's return to jail. 393 00:23:11,434 --> 00:23:14,437 Protesters feel Casey is hiding a horrible truth. 394 00:23:15,730 --> 00:23:17,356 -What? 395 00:23:17,398 --> 00:23:19,567 -She has completely removed herself 396 00:23:19,609 --> 00:23:23,279 from any normal emotion of a mother missing a child. 397 00:23:23,321 --> 00:23:25,573 And that is the most disturbing part for me. 398 00:23:25,615 --> 00:23:27,325 [ Horn honks ] 399 00:23:27,366 --> 00:23:29,535 -There was a lot of anger at Casey Anthony. 400 00:23:29,577 --> 00:23:32,455 How could she not call the police for 30 days? 401 00:23:32,497 --> 00:23:35,750 What was Casey doing during that time? 402 00:23:35,792 --> 00:23:41,422 ** 403 00:23:41,464 --> 00:23:44,258 -When I was asked to assist on this case, 404 00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:48,221 we interviewed friends, family members. 405 00:23:48,262 --> 00:23:50,223 The impression that I started to get 406 00:23:50,264 --> 00:23:53,601 was the existence of Caylee 407 00:23:53,643 --> 00:23:56,562 was probably interfering with Casey's desire 408 00:23:56,604 --> 00:24:00,316 to be more socially active with people of her own age. 409 00:24:04,153 --> 00:24:06,072 From conducting these interviews, 410 00:24:06,114 --> 00:24:09,242 the day that I think whatever terrible happened to Caylee 411 00:24:09,283 --> 00:24:10,868 was June 16th. 412 00:24:10,910 --> 00:24:15,415 And the last person other than Casey to see Caylee, 413 00:24:15,456 --> 00:24:18,209 that we're aware of, was George Anthony. 414 00:24:32,849 --> 00:24:35,226 ** 415 00:24:35,268 --> 00:24:38,438 -And looking at her desktop calendars, 416 00:24:38,479 --> 00:24:42,066 Casey was much busier and much more socially active 417 00:24:42,108 --> 00:24:44,444 after the 16th. 418 00:24:44,485 --> 00:24:46,529 When we looked at the Photobucket account, 419 00:24:46,571 --> 00:24:48,072 we could see the lifestyle 420 00:24:48,114 --> 00:24:50,241 that she was living during that period of time. 421 00:24:50,283 --> 00:24:53,953 Partying and hanging out. 422 00:24:53,995 --> 00:24:55,747 During the 31 days, 423 00:24:55,788 --> 00:24:58,958 Casey ended up stealing a checkbook from a friend, 424 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,418 Amy Huizenga. 425 00:25:07,592 --> 00:25:11,262 Casey was using funds that did not belong to her. 426 00:25:11,304 --> 00:25:13,014 You know, you see her going into stores. 427 00:25:13,056 --> 00:25:14,682 No child with her, 428 00:25:14,724 --> 00:25:19,187 not buying things that a mother would be buying for a child. 429 00:25:19,228 --> 00:25:21,147 Nothing. 430 00:25:21,189 --> 00:25:25,401 I have here that the 3rd of July 431 00:25:25,443 --> 00:25:28,905 is when she gets that tattoo, "Bella Vita." 432 00:25:28,946 --> 00:25:32,408 That means "the good life." 433 00:25:32,450 --> 00:25:34,452 Your child is missing. 434 00:25:34,494 --> 00:25:37,830 How do you get a tattoo, like a billboard, 435 00:25:37,872 --> 00:25:41,793 showing the world "I'm living the perfect life"? 436 00:25:41,834 --> 00:25:43,628 Who does that? 437 00:25:46,005 --> 00:25:49,342 And then, the activity picked up with Tony Lazzaro. 438 00:25:49,384 --> 00:25:52,220 Tony Lazzaro was Casey Anthony's boyfriend 439 00:25:52,261 --> 00:25:54,430 at the time that Caylee went missing. 440 00:25:54,472 --> 00:25:57,558 When they first met, Caylee was always with Casey. 441 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,353 I just think -- boop -- it stopped, you know? 442 00:26:00,395 --> 00:26:02,188 And that being around the same time 443 00:26:02,230 --> 00:26:05,358 in the time frame where she started staying with him. 444 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,277 So we interviewed Tony Lazzaro and friends, 445 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:10,029 many friends about this. 446 00:26:10,071 --> 00:26:18,037 ** 447 00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:19,372 -My name is Clint House. 448 00:26:19,414 --> 00:26:22,750 I was Tony Lazzaro's former roommate. 449 00:26:22,792 --> 00:26:26,462 When I first found out that Caylee was missing, 450 00:26:26,504 --> 00:26:29,757 I was just absolutely blown away. 451 00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:31,718 It just doesn't make any sense. 452 00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:34,595 In the early beginnings of the relationship, 453 00:26:34,637 --> 00:26:36,222 Casey would bring Caylee over. 454 00:26:36,264 --> 00:26:40,601 I saw Casey doing flash cards with her, 455 00:26:40,643 --> 00:26:44,063 teaching her how to say words. 456 00:26:44,105 --> 00:26:46,607 And that just made me 457 00:26:46,649 --> 00:26:50,570 want to be that type of parent to my own child. 458 00:26:50,611 --> 00:26:52,822 -She always, you know, had a backpack 459 00:26:52,864 --> 00:26:55,074 with everything that Caylee needed 460 00:26:55,116 --> 00:26:57,285 whenever she brought her over to the apartment. 461 00:26:57,326 --> 00:27:00,413 She was such a good mom. 462 00:27:00,455 --> 00:27:03,791 But that month that Caylee -- 463 00:27:03,833 --> 00:27:06,586 when we found out that she had been missing, 464 00:27:06,627 --> 00:27:10,715 Casey showed no indication that anything was wrong. 465 00:27:10,757 --> 00:27:14,302 She was just living her life. 466 00:27:14,343 --> 00:27:17,221 We were all confused. We were like, "How is she missing?" 467 00:27:17,263 --> 00:27:22,560 -She did absolutely nothing in the search for her child. 468 00:27:23,478 --> 00:27:27,315 And that, I will never forgive her for. 469 00:27:27,356 --> 00:27:35,281 ** 470 00:27:35,323 --> 00:27:37,325 -It was the right guilty verdict. 471 00:27:37,366 --> 00:27:38,785 I did lie to law enforcement. 472 00:27:38,826 --> 00:27:41,079 I admitted that I lied to law enforcement. 473 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:45,625 So I am a convicted liar. It's the truth. 474 00:27:45,666 --> 00:27:50,797 -And what is your relationship to truth and lying today? 475 00:27:50,838 --> 00:27:55,134 -I'm a little too honest. I'm blunt. I'm direct. 476 00:27:55,176 --> 00:27:56,928 Almost painfully so. 477 00:27:59,055 --> 00:28:02,308 -Today, would you say Casey is an honest person? 478 00:28:02,350 --> 00:28:04,936 -Yes. -How honest? 479 00:28:04,977 --> 00:28:07,146 -I think she's very truthful today. 480 00:28:07,188 --> 00:28:09,774 I trust her so much 481 00:28:09,816 --> 00:28:12,443 that I trust her with my research, 482 00:28:12,485 --> 00:28:14,028 with my invoices. 483 00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:16,197 -So in the past 10 years, you've never caught her 484 00:28:16,239 --> 00:28:17,824 in an out-and-out lie? -Never. 485 00:28:17,865 --> 00:28:21,661 Not in 10 years, or however long it's been, yeah. 486 00:28:21,702 --> 00:28:25,289 I'm pretty good at catching lies. 487 00:28:25,331 --> 00:28:27,166 It's kind of my job. 488 00:28:27,208 --> 00:28:30,002 And she's very honest. 489 00:28:30,044 --> 00:28:34,924 ** 490 00:28:34,966 --> 00:28:37,009 -I lost my entire life when I lost Caylee. 491 00:28:37,051 --> 00:28:38,720 She was the only thing that truly 492 00:28:38,761 --> 00:28:42,140 and honestly mattered to me. 493 00:28:42,181 --> 00:28:45,977 ** 494 00:28:46,018 --> 00:28:49,188 I let her dress herself how she wanted to dress. 495 00:28:49,230 --> 00:28:52,859 I let her eat what she wanted to eat, within reason. 496 00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:54,444 She was thriving. 497 00:28:54,485 --> 00:28:55,987 Well, Miss Life of the Party. 498 00:28:56,028 --> 00:28:58,406 It's your party, you can do what you want to. 499 00:29:01,576 --> 00:29:05,163 I was always there. I was a part of that. 500 00:29:05,204 --> 00:29:10,752 I got to see how infectious she was in everyone's lives. 501 00:29:13,588 --> 00:29:16,758 -She was just happy and fun, 502 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:18,301 and she would just light up a room, you know? 503 00:29:18,342 --> 00:29:22,597 She was big brown eyes and just the cutest little smile. 504 00:29:26,309 --> 00:29:27,852 My name is Annie Goderwis, 505 00:29:27,894 --> 00:29:31,064 and I was once best friends with Casey Anthony. 506 00:29:33,691 --> 00:29:37,570 I have "Caylee Marie" tattooed on my left shoulder. 507 00:29:37,612 --> 00:29:39,489 -Why did you decide to do that? 508 00:29:39,530 --> 00:29:42,700 -Um, because she deserves it. 509 00:29:42,742 --> 00:29:45,995 She deserves to live with me forever. 510 00:29:50,416 --> 00:29:53,294 [ Sniffles ] 511 00:29:53,336 --> 00:29:55,588 [ Sighs ] 512 00:29:57,340 --> 00:30:01,552 I brought a couple of my high-school yearbooks. 513 00:30:04,138 --> 00:30:06,682 There's Casey. 514 00:30:06,724 --> 00:30:09,310 This is when she was in 10th grade. 515 00:30:09,352 --> 00:30:15,441 ** 516 00:30:15,483 --> 00:30:18,236 She started dating a friend of mine. 517 00:30:18,277 --> 00:30:20,988 We became close friends very quickly. 518 00:30:23,157 --> 00:30:27,995 I think this picture was from my birthday. 519 00:30:28,037 --> 00:30:31,791 Casey was a good mom. She took care of that child. 520 00:30:31,833 --> 00:30:35,586 She loved that baby. 521 00:30:35,628 --> 00:30:38,840 She was always focused on Caylee. 522 00:30:38,881 --> 00:30:42,719 You know, she was a part of her. She was everywhere that she was. 523 00:30:44,929 --> 00:30:48,349 -It's very clear, when I talked to the policemen, 524 00:30:48,391 --> 00:30:53,896 they all very readily tell me that the motive here 525 00:30:53,938 --> 00:30:55,857 was somebody who wanted to go out dancing 526 00:30:55,898 --> 00:30:57,900 and was ready to kill her child. 527 00:30:57,942 --> 00:30:59,736 -No way. 528 00:30:59,777 --> 00:31:02,989 No way, shape, form. 529 00:31:03,030 --> 00:31:05,742 I don't believe that for a second. 530 00:31:05,783 --> 00:31:08,035 I understand how they will say that. 531 00:31:08,077 --> 00:31:09,412 I get it. 532 00:31:09,454 --> 00:31:11,497 That's not the Casey that I knew. 533 00:31:11,539 --> 00:31:14,167 No way. She didn't kill her child. 534 00:31:14,208 --> 00:31:15,626 Like [laughs] 535 00:31:18,588 --> 00:31:23,051 All the pictures that circulated on the news, on social media, 536 00:31:23,092 --> 00:31:28,181 there's a matter of, I would say, maybe half-a-dozen pictures 537 00:31:28,222 --> 00:31:30,266 that are from half-a-dozen different nights 538 00:31:30,308 --> 00:31:33,311 over the span of a three-year time period. 539 00:31:33,352 --> 00:31:35,688 There's a picture of her with her head in the toilet. 540 00:31:35,730 --> 00:31:37,231 It was her 21st birthday. 541 00:31:37,273 --> 00:31:40,860 Like, come on. It was her 21st birthday. 542 00:31:40,902 --> 00:31:43,071 The media made it like all she wanted to do 543 00:31:43,112 --> 00:31:45,907 was to kill her kid and go out and party. 544 00:31:45,948 --> 00:31:48,367 It's not the Casey that I knew. 545 00:31:48,409 --> 00:31:50,286 She... 546 00:31:50,328 --> 00:31:52,580 was never like the life of the party. 547 00:31:52,622 --> 00:31:56,167 She didn't go out with us all that often. 548 00:31:56,209 --> 00:32:02,048 She was your typical mom. I mean, she loved that child. 549 00:32:02,090 --> 00:32:04,008 We would go places in the car, 550 00:32:04,050 --> 00:32:07,178 and there would be Goldfish all over Casey's back seat 551 00:32:07,220 --> 00:32:09,389 because, like, the kid always had food. 552 00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:11,224 She had toys. 553 00:32:11,265 --> 00:32:13,893 Occasionally, Caylee would let me hold her. 554 00:32:13,935 --> 00:32:15,728 Most of the time, she just wanted Casey. 555 00:32:15,770 --> 00:32:18,940 She wanted her mom. She loved her mom. 556 00:32:18,981 --> 00:32:22,360 Until she herself tells me that she did it, 557 00:32:22,402 --> 00:32:26,489 there's no way, no way she killed that baby. 558 00:32:26,531 --> 00:32:29,909 With Caylee's disappearance, 559 00:32:29,951 --> 00:32:32,787 I think an accident probably happened. 560 00:32:32,829 --> 00:32:36,499 And I think that she did what she always did, 561 00:32:36,541 --> 00:32:38,960 and she lied. 562 00:32:40,545 --> 00:32:44,257 When I was friends with Casey, she lied about everything. 563 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,969 When Casey was questioned by the police, 564 00:32:48,010 --> 00:32:52,014 she said she dropped Caylee off at this apartment complex. 565 00:32:52,056 --> 00:32:55,268 Well, I used to live in that apartment complex. 566 00:32:55,309 --> 00:32:57,103 I think, in her mind, she wasn't lying. 567 00:32:57,145 --> 00:32:58,688 She had brought Caylee there before. 568 00:32:58,730 --> 00:33:01,232 She had never dropped her off, but Caylee had been there. 569 00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:06,028 I'm fairly certain that she definitely was employed 570 00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:07,405 at Universal at some point, 571 00:33:07,447 --> 00:33:09,031 whether it was, like, right out of high school 572 00:33:09,073 --> 00:33:11,617 or when she was in high school, I don't know. 573 00:33:11,659 --> 00:33:13,411 Again, small truths. 574 00:33:15,204 --> 00:33:18,958 -When I lied, during this and even prior to, 575 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,919 there was always at least some part of the truth 576 00:33:21,961 --> 00:33:24,172 that was a part of the lie. 577 00:33:24,213 --> 00:33:28,426 I did work at Universal for a very long time. 578 00:33:28,468 --> 00:33:29,886 And, yeah, Sawgrass Apartments, 579 00:33:29,927 --> 00:33:33,806 that's where Annie Downing lived. 580 00:33:33,848 --> 00:33:35,725 A kernel of truth within the lie. 581 00:33:35,767 --> 00:33:39,145 ** 582 00:33:44,317 --> 00:33:46,569 -So, let's go back to the beginning. 583 00:33:46,611 --> 00:33:49,363 July 16, 2008, 584 00:33:49,405 --> 00:33:53,659 the day that Caylee's kidnapping is reported. 585 00:34:05,296 --> 00:34:09,425 What are you thinking and feeling on that call? 586 00:34:09,467 --> 00:34:12,970 There's no emotion. -There's no nothing. 587 00:34:13,012 --> 00:34:14,847 Nothing. 588 00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:19,060 -Yeah. It's weird. -It's very weird. 589 00:34:19,102 --> 00:34:24,148 ** 590 00:34:24,190 --> 00:34:28,444 I was so numb during so much of that. 591 00:34:39,539 --> 00:34:43,376 I did meet someone named Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez. 592 00:34:43,418 --> 00:34:45,878 She was a babysitter, was a nanny -- all of that's true. 593 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,464 Was not my nanny. Was not my babysitter. 594 00:34:48,506 --> 00:34:51,759 [ Sighs ] 595 00:34:51,801 --> 00:34:59,225 ** 596 00:34:59,267 --> 00:35:06,524 ** 597 00:35:06,566 --> 00:35:08,860 That's the official entrance. 598 00:35:08,901 --> 00:35:11,362 So we have to go around the back. 599 00:35:11,404 --> 00:35:20,621 ** 600 00:35:20,663 --> 00:35:24,917 -So, at the time you're pulling up here with the cops, 601 00:35:24,959 --> 00:35:29,213 you believe what about where Caylee is? 602 00:35:29,255 --> 00:35:31,883 -She's okay. That's what I believed the entire time. 603 00:35:31,924 --> 00:35:33,551 Not just with the cops. 604 00:35:33,593 --> 00:35:37,597 Every day that I sat in jail up until the day she was found. 605 00:35:37,638 --> 00:35:39,682 Every day. 606 00:35:39,724 --> 00:35:43,436 -Help us understand, why were you lying to the cops? 607 00:35:43,478 --> 00:35:47,273 -I lied to everyone because that was my whole life 608 00:35:47,315 --> 00:35:49,567 up to that point. 609 00:35:49,609 --> 00:35:52,653 Acting like everything's okay but knowing nothing was okay. 610 00:35:52,695 --> 00:35:56,407 I've had years of therapy and... 611 00:35:56,449 --> 00:36:00,161 I'm trying to analyze my own behavior 612 00:36:00,203 --> 00:36:03,456 and explain my own behaviors. 613 00:36:03,498 --> 00:36:06,876 All of this is a reaction to trauma. 614 00:36:06,918 --> 00:36:11,589 ** 615 00:36:11,631 --> 00:36:16,219 Since 2008, I was suppressing those memories. 616 00:36:16,260 --> 00:36:18,638 I remember my interactions with law enforcement, 617 00:36:18,679 --> 00:36:21,641 but I don't really remember all of what was said. 618 00:36:21,682 --> 00:36:27,897 Everything had its place on a shelf and had its own box. 619 00:36:29,482 --> 00:36:33,319 I was trying to put as much of what was associated 620 00:36:33,361 --> 00:36:36,114 with those memories into those boxes and locking it away 621 00:36:36,155 --> 00:36:38,449 and putting it back on the shelf. 622 00:36:38,491 --> 00:36:46,290 ** 623 00:36:46,332 --> 00:36:50,044 Now, saying all of this out loud for the first time, 624 00:36:50,086 --> 00:36:52,964 the process is extremely painful. 625 00:36:53,005 --> 00:37:00,763 ** 626 00:37:00,805 --> 00:37:03,182 I remember the detectives that I was with. 627 00:37:03,224 --> 00:37:07,186 I didn't trust cops at that point. 628 00:37:07,228 --> 00:37:10,398 I was frightened. I was scared. 629 00:37:12,191 --> 00:37:14,819 And they go something along the lines of, 630 00:37:14,861 --> 00:37:17,655 "Oh, so you work here?" 631 00:37:17,697 --> 00:37:19,365 I hadn't worked at Universal 632 00:37:19,407 --> 00:37:22,577 for like a year, year and a half, easily. 633 00:37:26,873 --> 00:37:29,083 I remember the detectives walking me 634 00:37:29,125 --> 00:37:31,377 into an interrogation room. 635 00:38:02,992 --> 00:38:11,125 ** 636 00:38:11,167 --> 00:38:15,421 I made myself look crazy 637 00:38:15,463 --> 00:38:19,384 and gave law enforcement absolutely no reason to believe 638 00:38:19,425 --> 00:38:22,512 or trust anything that I said. 639 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,602 I get why, from an outside perspective, 640 00:38:29,644 --> 00:38:32,313 all of this just seems so... 641 00:38:32,355 --> 00:38:35,483 Because, even for me, it still feels that way. 642 00:38:35,525 --> 00:38:36,776 As far as I'm concerned, 643 00:38:36,818 --> 00:38:39,612 there's no justifying my actions or behavior. 644 00:38:43,908 --> 00:38:46,411 Except to say that... 645 00:38:46,452 --> 00:38:49,455 I was doing what I was conditioned to do. 646 00:38:50,998 --> 00:38:54,252 ** 647 00:38:54,293 --> 00:38:57,171 Growing up, I lied a lot more than I ever told the truth 648 00:38:57,213 --> 00:39:00,466 because telling the truth to anyone in the outside world 649 00:39:00,508 --> 00:39:02,135 didn't happen. 650 00:39:02,176 --> 00:39:05,972 On the surface, my family was typical. 651 00:39:06,013 --> 00:39:08,975 Mother, father, son, and daughter. 652 00:39:09,016 --> 00:39:13,438 Your standard middle-class, White American family. 653 00:39:13,479 --> 00:39:16,441 My mom was a nurse. My father was a former cop. 654 00:39:16,482 --> 00:39:19,360 When we moved to Florida, he was in security. 655 00:39:19,402 --> 00:39:24,449 The outside world saw this -- this perfect little family. 656 00:39:24,490 --> 00:39:27,034 And there were moments of that, for sure. 657 00:39:27,076 --> 00:39:32,039 But that wasn't the reality. 658 00:39:32,081 --> 00:39:36,961 Our life at home was a lie. 659 00:39:37,003 --> 00:39:41,424 Telling the truth, especially in our house, wasn't allowed. 660 00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:44,010 It all comes back to my dad. 661 00:39:46,512 --> 00:39:48,306 He was a man who was incapable 662 00:39:48,347 --> 00:39:51,100 of ever telling anyone the truth. 663 00:39:51,142 --> 00:39:52,643 My father wanted the world to believe 664 00:39:52,685 --> 00:39:56,022 that he was the patriarch of the family. 665 00:39:56,064 --> 00:39:58,274 That he was supporting our family 666 00:39:58,316 --> 00:40:00,693 financially and otherwise. 667 00:40:00,735 --> 00:40:05,490 There were so many things that he didn't want us to see. 668 00:40:05,531 --> 00:40:09,327 My father was trying to hide that he wasn't working. 669 00:40:09,368 --> 00:40:11,662 My mother was the true matriarch, 670 00:40:11,704 --> 00:40:14,749 was the sole breadwinner. 671 00:40:14,791 --> 00:40:19,003 She worked 14- to 16-hour days to not only keep our lights on, 672 00:40:19,045 --> 00:40:20,755 but to keep food on the table. 673 00:40:20,797 --> 00:40:23,383 My mom had found out that he had taken $60,000 674 00:40:23,424 --> 00:40:25,510 out of her retirement. 675 00:40:25,551 --> 00:40:29,389 He claims, at first, it was a Nigerian Ponzi scheme, 676 00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:32,850 and then that he had gambled away the money. 677 00:40:32,892 --> 00:40:35,186 The story kept evolving. 678 00:40:35,228 --> 00:40:37,271 My father was also lying to hide the fact 679 00:40:37,313 --> 00:40:39,399 that he was unfaithful to my mother, 680 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,860 to hide the fact that there were extracurricular activities 681 00:40:42,902 --> 00:40:44,862 he was doing at night. 682 00:40:44,904 --> 00:40:47,782 My mom was trying to again 683 00:40:47,824 --> 00:40:51,119 put on that facade of this cohesive unit. 684 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,371 It was always that perfect persona 685 00:40:53,413 --> 00:40:56,582 they wanted to put out for the public. 686 00:40:56,624 --> 00:40:59,001 Protecting the family at all costs. 687 00:40:59,043 --> 00:41:01,421 That was the only goal. 688 00:41:01,462 --> 00:41:04,799 Protecting the truth of what was in our home. 689 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,152 -So, your options are eggs, fruit. 690 00:41:24,193 --> 00:41:26,738 -Eggs and fruit? -Eggs and fruit. 691 00:41:26,779 --> 00:41:31,951 ** 692 00:41:31,993 --> 00:41:34,412 Actually will be the first time I've made breakfast for anyone 693 00:41:34,454 --> 00:41:36,873 other than myself for a very long time. 694 00:41:36,914 --> 00:41:44,547 ** 695 00:41:44,589 --> 00:41:52,013 ** 696 00:41:52,055 --> 00:41:54,015 -How did you sleep? 697 00:41:54,057 --> 00:41:56,517 -There's no such thing as good sleep. 698 00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:57,977 Not that I know. 699 00:41:58,019 --> 00:42:00,146 A lot of nights, I have very clear images 700 00:42:00,188 --> 00:42:02,857 and flashbacks, nightmares. 701 00:42:02,899 --> 00:42:09,781 ** 702 00:42:09,822 --> 00:42:11,491 My nightmare last night, 703 00:42:11,532 --> 00:42:15,828 it was similar to other things that happened to me growing up. 704 00:42:15,870 --> 00:42:17,163 I don't know if it's just flooding back 705 00:42:17,205 --> 00:42:19,582 because of going back through pictures 706 00:42:19,624 --> 00:42:23,878 and more switches being hit and more trauma. 707 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,005 -What was the nightmare last night? 708 00:42:26,047 --> 00:42:29,926 -My father was holding me down and raping me. 709 00:42:29,967 --> 00:42:32,929 That happens again and again and again. 710 00:42:37,558 --> 00:42:39,102 When I was 8 years old, 711 00:42:39,143 --> 00:42:41,938 my father started to come into my room at night. 712 00:42:44,899 --> 00:42:47,527 I was physically hurt. 713 00:42:47,568 --> 00:42:49,362 Scared because I was physically hurt 714 00:42:49,404 --> 00:42:52,365 and I can't tell Mommy what happened. 715 00:42:52,407 --> 00:42:55,660 She'll get mad at me. That's what I was told. 716 00:43:00,248 --> 00:43:03,710 With my father, the abuse one day just stopped 717 00:43:03,751 --> 00:43:06,337 just before my 12th birthday. 718 00:43:06,379 --> 00:43:10,258 My brother started coming in shortly after I turned 12. 719 00:43:12,301 --> 00:43:15,722 And it stopped around the time I turned 15. 720 00:43:15,763 --> 00:43:18,224 Wasn't the same thing that happened with my father. 721 00:43:18,266 --> 00:43:22,228 My brother never raped me. No, no, absolutely not. 722 00:43:22,270 --> 00:43:25,106 But it was close enough. 723 00:43:25,148 --> 00:43:27,984 Close enough where there was a pattern. 724 00:43:28,025 --> 00:43:31,070 -But you did tell your mom about Lee. 725 00:43:31,112 --> 00:43:33,573 -I did not. 726 00:43:33,614 --> 00:43:37,243 Not until after I was already a mom. 727 00:43:37,285 --> 00:43:39,829 Not till I was 19. 728 00:43:39,871 --> 00:43:42,749 -Do you think she knew anyway? 729 00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:45,084 -I've always questioned it. 730 00:43:47,879 --> 00:43:49,589 What you have to realize about my mom 731 00:43:49,630 --> 00:43:53,551 when I was younger, she was extremely controlling. 732 00:43:53,593 --> 00:43:56,262 She tried to make sure I dressed as young as I possibly could, 733 00:43:56,304 --> 00:43:58,931 to look as young as I possibly could. 734 00:43:58,973 --> 00:44:02,101 It's not just feeling like my mom wanted to keep me a child. 735 00:44:02,143 --> 00:44:04,187 I feel like she was trying to, 736 00:44:04,228 --> 00:44:07,690 yes, keep me from being a sexual being. 737 00:44:07,732 --> 00:44:11,778 I had to fit within these very specific parameters 738 00:44:11,819 --> 00:44:13,279 and be that perfect little girl, 739 00:44:13,321 --> 00:44:17,158 even when I wasn't a little girl anymore. 740 00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:22,705 She was always trying to create this image 741 00:44:22,747 --> 00:44:27,418 of what our family should be, which was not what it was. 742 00:44:30,254 --> 00:44:32,298 I think she was lying to herself, 743 00:44:32,340 --> 00:44:34,175 trying to keep together this family unit 744 00:44:34,217 --> 00:44:36,469 that she was fighting so hard for. 745 00:44:39,305 --> 00:44:43,184 It was just assumed whatever Mom and Dad said, 746 00:44:43,226 --> 00:44:45,728 son and daughter follow suit. 747 00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:48,481 So, I lied a lot more than I ever told the truth 748 00:44:48,523 --> 00:44:51,275 because the truth was too painful 749 00:44:51,317 --> 00:44:56,656 and it was too unreal to ever describe to someone. 750 00:44:56,697 --> 00:45:01,202 ** 751 00:45:05,706 --> 00:45:07,500 -Inside, it was a mess. -Keep going. 752 00:45:07,542 --> 00:45:09,168 -Shut up. Please. 753 00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:10,545 -Oh, I'm done. -Shut up. 754 00:45:10,586 --> 00:45:12,213 -I'm done. Don't ever tell me to shut up. 755 00:45:12,255 --> 00:45:13,631 -You know something? 756 00:45:13,673 --> 00:45:15,049 I let you explain everything in as much detail. 757 00:45:15,091 --> 00:45:17,093 -No, don't you tell me to shut up. 758 00:45:17,135 --> 00:45:19,512 Oh, geez, oh, cow, George. Come on. 759 00:45:19,554 --> 00:45:22,014 -I think this interview itself 760 00:45:22,056 --> 00:45:26,060 is only further painting that picture 761 00:45:26,102 --> 00:45:29,856 of what I've described about the issues within their marriage. 762 00:45:29,897 --> 00:45:31,858 And you can just see. 763 00:45:31,899 --> 00:45:34,861 You can just see that discord between the two of them. 764 00:45:34,902 --> 00:45:36,612 It's so blatant. 765 00:45:36,654 --> 00:45:39,240 -I didn't take $20 from your wallet. 766 00:45:39,282 --> 00:45:40,867 I didn't take this. I didn't take that. 767 00:45:40,908 --> 00:45:44,454 What about Casey going into Caylee's savings account 768 00:45:44,495 --> 00:45:46,247 that I had started with her and taking money out? 769 00:45:46,289 --> 00:45:48,332 -But, George, Casey learned by example. 770 00:45:48,374 --> 00:45:50,043 And I -- -Wow. You're -- You're really -- 771 00:45:50,084 --> 00:45:51,544 -Okay, let's -- Wait. 772 00:45:51,586 --> 00:45:53,046 -Please, please. -No, but I'm telling you, 773 00:45:53,087 --> 00:45:55,631 you lied to me for several years, 774 00:45:55,673 --> 00:45:57,091 and that's where our daughter got it. 775 00:45:57,133 --> 00:45:58,801 -Do not personally attack me on this. 776 00:45:58,843 --> 00:46:00,678 This is not supposed to be about us. 777 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:01,929 -I understand that. 778 00:46:01,971 --> 00:46:03,264 -It's not supposed to be that personal attack. 779 00:46:03,306 --> 00:46:04,891 -She finally calls him out on it 780 00:46:04,932 --> 00:46:07,393 and is finally acknowledging. 781 00:46:07,435 --> 00:46:10,104 Yes, I learned from his example, completely. 782 00:46:10,146 --> 00:46:15,318 ** 783 00:46:15,359 --> 00:46:18,738 I completely replicated my father's behavior 784 00:46:18,780 --> 00:46:21,407 during those 31 days. 785 00:46:21,449 --> 00:46:24,327 I watched him lie, manipulate, take money from people. 786 00:46:24,368 --> 00:46:25,912 I did all of those things. 787 00:46:25,953 --> 00:46:29,916 But for me, it wasn't to protect myself 788 00:46:29,957 --> 00:46:31,417 because of what I had done. 789 00:46:31,459 --> 00:46:34,837 It was to protect myself from the outside world 790 00:46:34,879 --> 00:46:38,424 and that judgment of what had happened to me. 791 00:46:38,466 --> 00:46:42,428 -So why did you take the money from Amy? 792 00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:44,806 -It was a really shitty mistake. 793 00:46:48,351 --> 00:46:52,480 I used and manipulated all of the people around me 794 00:46:52,522 --> 00:46:55,942 in an attempt to appear normal, 795 00:46:55,983 --> 00:46:59,237 which was extremely abnormal. 796 00:47:00,905 --> 00:47:04,242 When the most normal thing would have been to say, "I need help." 797 00:47:04,283 --> 00:47:06,536 But I didn't know how to say that. 798 00:47:06,577 --> 00:47:14,127 ** 799 00:47:14,168 --> 00:47:16,087 -Casey Anthony says she was looking 800 00:47:16,129 --> 00:47:17,588 for her missing daughter. 801 00:47:17,630 --> 00:47:20,758 We don't know if that's true, but we do know this. 802 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,885 Casey got a tattoo. 803 00:47:25,847 --> 00:47:28,474 -[ Sighs ] 804 00:47:28,516 --> 00:47:30,810 -You covered up your tattoo. 805 00:47:30,852 --> 00:47:34,021 -Bella vita -- That was my "fuck you" to my family. 806 00:47:34,063 --> 00:47:38,568 ** 807 00:47:38,609 --> 00:47:42,155 I spent my entire life protecting our perfect, 808 00:47:42,196 --> 00:47:44,323 beautiful little family 809 00:47:44,365 --> 00:47:48,703 and acting like I had this enviable life. 810 00:47:51,122 --> 00:47:53,458 And in a lot of ways -- 811 00:47:53,499 --> 00:47:55,334 And, again, this is after going through therapy 812 00:47:55,376 --> 00:47:59,255 and trying to explain why I got the tattoo in the first place, 813 00:47:59,297 --> 00:48:02,800 especially during that time period -- 814 00:48:02,842 --> 00:48:06,763 because that was a subconscious way for me to... 815 00:48:09,182 --> 00:48:12,351 ...to speak out against all of it. 816 00:48:12,393 --> 00:48:14,729 -Against what? -My family. 817 00:48:14,771 --> 00:48:16,314 My... 818 00:48:18,274 --> 00:48:23,154 ...flawed and fucked-up family 819 00:48:23,196 --> 00:48:27,116 and my flawed and fucked-up life. 820 00:48:27,158 --> 00:48:30,912 It was the antithesis of what my life really was. 821 00:48:30,953 --> 00:48:34,957 The tattoo on the inside of my arm -- 822 00:48:34,999 --> 00:48:37,543 "I hear your voice and all the sounds of the world." 823 00:48:37,585 --> 00:48:39,295 That also translates to "noise." 824 00:48:39,337 --> 00:48:43,466 That just means I hear you in everything. 825 00:48:43,508 --> 00:48:46,886 That is my Caylee tribute tattoo. 826 00:48:50,765 --> 00:48:54,602 Everything about her was perfect. 827 00:48:54,644 --> 00:48:57,688 These were my sonogram photos. 828 00:48:57,730 --> 00:48:59,941 These were the two that I asked to have printed. 829 00:48:59,982 --> 00:49:03,361 You can see the outline, perfect outline of her hand, her nose, 830 00:49:03,403 --> 00:49:07,573 her eyes, her arms, the bones in her arm. 831 00:49:07,615 --> 00:49:09,617 I was six and a half months pregnant almost 832 00:49:09,659 --> 00:49:11,202 when they were able to do this. 833 00:49:11,244 --> 00:49:13,913 -Did people know you were pregnant at that point? 834 00:49:13,955 --> 00:49:15,915 -Um... 835 00:49:15,957 --> 00:49:18,918 It was hard not to tell, 836 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,587 but some of the people closest to me were telling people 837 00:49:21,629 --> 00:49:23,756 not only that I wasn't pregnant. 838 00:49:23,798 --> 00:49:27,969 I was just sedentary, had a sedentary position. 839 00:49:28,010 --> 00:49:30,930 That was what my nurse mother told people. 840 00:49:30,972 --> 00:49:32,974 -Why? 841 00:49:33,015 --> 00:49:34,851 -I don't know. 842 00:49:34,892 --> 00:49:37,270 Maybe she was embarrassed that her daughter was pregnant. 843 00:49:37,311 --> 00:49:39,856 Um...I don't know. 844 00:49:39,897 --> 00:49:42,024 I was blatantly pregnant and still saying no 845 00:49:42,066 --> 00:49:44,819 because that's what we had all agreed to. 846 00:49:44,861 --> 00:49:47,321 Even my co-workers at the time. 847 00:49:47,363 --> 00:49:49,949 And they're like, "Well, you're pregnant." 848 00:49:49,991 --> 00:49:53,119 I'd kind of hesitate and go, "What?" 849 00:49:53,161 --> 00:49:55,204 Of course I was pregnant. 850 00:49:55,246 --> 00:49:59,250 But no lie was out of bounds. No lie was off-limits. 851 00:49:59,292 --> 00:50:04,255 ** 852 00:50:04,297 --> 00:50:07,967 -How did you get pregnant with Caylee? 853 00:50:08,009 --> 00:50:10,803 -I was raped at 18. 854 00:50:10,845 --> 00:50:12,597 -Could your dad have been the father? 855 00:50:12,638 --> 00:50:16,100 -No, my father is not the father of my child. 856 00:50:16,142 --> 00:50:18,394 Neither is my brother. 857 00:50:22,315 --> 00:50:27,528 ** 858 00:50:27,570 --> 00:50:31,866 -When I was 18, I was at a house party, 859 00:50:31,908 --> 00:50:34,869 had a couple beers, 860 00:50:34,911 --> 00:50:38,456 completely lost my memory because I was drugged. 861 00:50:38,498 --> 00:50:41,918 I woke up with my top on, 862 00:50:41,959 --> 00:50:43,795 my jeans on the floor with my underwear, 863 00:50:43,836 --> 00:50:46,381 and my bra still inside of my shirt, 864 00:50:46,422 --> 00:50:50,051 but up over my breasts. 865 00:50:50,093 --> 00:50:52,095 And I was lethargic. 866 00:50:52,136 --> 00:50:57,558 I was extremely disoriented. 867 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,064 And I could feel like I had had forcible sex. 868 00:51:03,106 --> 00:51:05,066 I was scared, 869 00:51:05,108 --> 00:51:08,069 confused, 870 00:51:08,111 --> 00:51:11,030 full of questions. 871 00:51:11,072 --> 00:51:13,157 Why it happened, how it happened. 872 00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:15,451 Did I consent? Not consent? 873 00:51:18,371 --> 00:51:20,081 -Did you report it to the police? 874 00:51:20,123 --> 00:51:22,625 -No. -Why not? 875 00:51:22,667 --> 00:51:26,003 -I wasn't sure anyone would believe me. 876 00:51:26,045 --> 00:51:29,132 Because, again, I know what happens to girls 877 00:51:29,173 --> 00:51:30,717 when they go to a party. 878 00:51:30,758 --> 00:51:33,594 They have a couple drinks. 879 00:51:33,636 --> 00:51:35,388 All the guy needs to say is, 880 00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:37,140 "Yeah, of course, she wanted to do it. 881 00:51:37,181 --> 00:51:40,560 She wanted to be a part of it. She was asking for it." 882 00:51:42,061 --> 00:51:45,773 First person that I would have told would have been my mom, 883 00:51:45,815 --> 00:51:48,943 and would she have believed me? 884 00:51:48,985 --> 00:51:52,113 Would she have blamed me? 885 00:51:52,155 --> 00:51:55,616 -How soon after the rape do you realize you're pregnant? 886 00:51:55,658 --> 00:51:58,745 -Almost immediately. 887 00:51:58,786 --> 00:52:00,496 Six weeks. 888 00:52:02,165 --> 00:52:05,626 When I decided to tell my parents that I was pregnant, 889 00:52:05,668 --> 00:52:08,337 I told them that Jesse Grund was the father. 890 00:52:10,548 --> 00:52:13,968 I met and started dating Jesse Grund 891 00:52:14,010 --> 00:52:17,472 just before I found out I was pregnant. 892 00:52:17,513 --> 00:52:20,224 -Did you think Jesse could be the dad? 893 00:52:20,266 --> 00:52:21,684 -Yes, there was a possibility, 894 00:52:21,726 --> 00:52:24,145 at least still in my head, at the time. 895 00:52:24,187 --> 00:52:25,605 As my pregnancy progressed 896 00:52:25,646 --> 00:52:29,150 and we realized how far along I actually was, 897 00:52:29,192 --> 00:52:32,653 came to realize that that wasn't the case. 898 00:52:32,695 --> 00:52:36,407 But I made a very selfish decision 899 00:52:36,449 --> 00:52:38,367 to not tell Jesse. 900 00:52:41,204 --> 00:52:44,999 I let Jesse believe the entirety of my pregnancy 901 00:52:45,041 --> 00:52:47,627 that he was the father. 902 00:52:47,668 --> 00:52:51,506 I should have told him what happened, but I didn't. 903 00:52:51,547 --> 00:52:54,926 At that point, I hadn't told anyone that I was raped. 904 00:52:57,053 --> 00:53:00,056 He got a paternity test. 905 00:53:00,098 --> 00:53:02,558 And even after that, I never told Jesse 906 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,061 how I got pregnant in the first place. 907 00:53:07,063 --> 00:53:13,444 I lied and said that it was this old friend from way back when. 908 00:53:13,486 --> 00:53:16,030 -Caylee's never had a father. 909 00:53:16,072 --> 00:53:20,493 He was a friend of Casey's that lives out of state. 910 00:53:20,535 --> 00:53:21,786 By the time Caylee was born, 911 00:53:21,828 --> 00:53:24,163 he had already started another family, 912 00:53:24,205 --> 00:53:27,375 and he passed away earlier in the year. 913 00:53:27,417 --> 00:53:34,674 ** 914 00:53:34,716 --> 00:53:36,884 -I lied to everyone. 915 00:53:39,095 --> 00:53:40,805 That's what I'm saying, it's so fucked up. 916 00:53:40,847 --> 00:53:44,600 It's just years of feeling like 917 00:53:44,642 --> 00:53:47,270 I needed to live a certain life or show people 918 00:53:47,311 --> 00:53:52,442 I lived a certain life because I didn't want people to pity me. 919 00:53:54,110 --> 00:53:56,821 And I didn't want my kid growing up 920 00:53:56,863 --> 00:53:59,699 thinking she was this product of something so bad 921 00:53:59,741 --> 00:54:02,285 and that I didn't want her. 922 00:54:02,326 --> 00:54:10,251 ** 923 00:54:10,293 --> 00:54:12,211 [ Sniffles ] 924 00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:16,841 I don't know how long I can do this. 925 00:54:20,178 --> 00:54:22,013 [ Sobs ] 926 00:54:25,141 --> 00:54:27,769 [ Sniffles ] 927 00:54:27,810 --> 00:54:31,856 I remember these pictures like they were yesterday. 928 00:54:31,898 --> 00:54:35,193 And it's part of the reason why it's so hard to look back. 929 00:54:35,234 --> 00:54:43,201 ** 930 00:54:43,242 --> 00:54:44,952 I've missed this. 931 00:54:47,163 --> 00:54:52,460 I miss her every second of every day. 932 00:54:52,502 --> 00:54:54,420 [ Sniffles ] 933 00:54:54,462 --> 00:55:02,136 ** 934 00:55:02,178 --> 00:55:09,519 ** 935 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,815 This is why I can't sit down and look at these anymore. 936 00:55:13,856 --> 00:55:16,317 It's not because I don't want to. 937 00:55:16,359 --> 00:55:18,611 It's just it hurts. 938 00:55:18,653 --> 00:55:21,364 Just physically fucking hurts. 939 00:55:21,406 --> 00:55:23,533 [ Sniffles ] 940 00:55:26,035 --> 00:55:30,790 She's still everything to me and always will be everything. 941 00:55:30,832 --> 00:55:32,542 This is all I have left. 942 00:55:32,583 --> 00:55:34,335 This. 943 00:55:34,377 --> 00:55:36,629 This is all I have left of her. 944 00:55:43,636 --> 00:55:45,722 [ Sighs ] 945 00:55:50,226 --> 00:55:53,229 No parent's supposed to survive their kid. 946 00:55:55,231 --> 00:55:57,316 This is all I have left. 947 00:55:57,358 --> 00:55:59,652 [ Sniffles ] 948 00:56:01,946 --> 00:56:04,073 [ Sobs ] 949 00:56:06,367 --> 00:56:08,619 Oh, God, just -- 950 00:56:08,661 --> 00:56:11,080 It just fucking hurts. 951 00:56:11,122 --> 00:56:14,125 [ Sniffles ] 952 00:56:14,167 --> 00:56:16,169 I don't think I can say that enough. 953 00:56:16,210 --> 00:56:17,712 It just hurts. 954 00:56:17,754 --> 00:56:23,051 ** 955 00:56:23,092 --> 00:56:28,014 ** 956 00:56:28,056 --> 00:56:33,478 I lied, but no one asked why. 957 00:56:33,519 --> 00:56:36,564 No one cared why I lied. 958 00:56:36,606 --> 00:56:42,570 ** 959 00:56:42,612 --> 00:56:44,947 -When Casey was out of jail 960 00:56:44,989 --> 00:56:46,532 from the first time of her being arrested -- 961 00:56:46,574 --> 00:56:51,579 it was before they charged her with Caylee's murder -- 962 00:56:51,621 --> 00:56:54,749 I went over there and I stayed the night. 963 00:56:56,667 --> 00:56:59,796 You know, I-I asked some questions like, 964 00:56:59,837 --> 00:57:02,590 "Where's Caylee?" You know, "Where -- Like what -- 965 00:57:02,632 --> 00:57:05,385 Like, what's going on? Why didn't you tell anybody?" 966 00:57:05,426 --> 00:57:07,804 "Oh, I'm just doing what they told me to do. 967 00:57:07,845 --> 00:57:10,640 Just saying what they tell me to say." 968 00:57:22,276 --> 00:57:23,653 Right. 969 00:57:23,694 --> 00:57:25,738 She did say that, "They are telling me. 970 00:57:25,780 --> 00:57:29,617 I'm doing what they tell me to do." 971 00:57:29,659 --> 00:57:32,036 I don't know who "they" is, though. 972 00:57:32,078 --> 00:57:37,125 ** 973 00:57:37,166 --> 00:57:42,046 ** 974 00:57:42,088 --> 00:57:44,966 -I'm thoroughly embarrassed 975 00:57:45,007 --> 00:57:48,761 by everything that happened, not only on that day, 976 00:57:48,803 --> 00:57:51,055 but so many of the days that followed 977 00:57:51,097 --> 00:57:54,016 and the days that led up to all of this. 978 00:57:56,394 --> 00:57:58,104 It's awful, but... 979 00:58:02,358 --> 00:58:05,820 ...I wasn't the same person sitting here 980 00:58:05,862 --> 00:58:09,073 almost 14 years ago that I am now. 981 00:58:09,115 --> 00:58:10,491 I have a voice now. 982 00:58:10,533 --> 00:58:15,371 I'm not afraid to speak up against my abuser now. 983 00:58:19,876 --> 00:58:21,878 -Why were you lying to the cops? 984 00:58:21,919 --> 00:58:23,838 -I was doing what I was told. 985 00:58:26,215 --> 00:58:28,968 It's really that simple. I was doing what I was told. 986 00:58:29,010 --> 00:58:31,429 -By? -My father. 987 00:58:31,471 --> 00:58:33,097 ** 988 00:58:39,562 --> 00:58:43,816 -With regret, I'm here to inform you that the skeletal remains 989 00:58:43,858 --> 00:58:45,526 found on December 11th 990 00:58:45,568 --> 00:58:48,988 are those of the missing toddler, Caylee Anthony. 991 00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:51,949 -It appeared that a person from the Anthony home 992 00:58:51,991 --> 00:58:54,035 taped her face up with duct tape, 993 00:58:54,077 --> 00:58:57,246 stuffed her in a trash bag, dumped her in the woods. 994 00:58:57,288 --> 00:58:59,248 -There was no question in their minds 995 00:58:59,290 --> 00:59:01,667 about whether or not I did anything to my daughter. 996 00:59:01,709 --> 00:59:05,046 -Everything was against her. The world was against her. 997 00:59:05,088 --> 00:59:07,090 -You say that you think she's a psychopath. 998 00:59:07,131 --> 00:59:09,050 -Absolutely. -I said to Casey, 999 00:59:09,092 --> 00:59:11,386 "We have to really be able to tell your story." 1000 00:59:13,346 --> 00:59:17,892 -I did believe that Casey was sexually abused, 1001 00:59:17,934 --> 00:59:21,312 which is what the other psychologists heard. 1002 00:59:21,354 --> 00:59:24,732 -It was like I was brainwashed. [ Sniffles ] 1003 00:59:24,774 --> 00:59:28,945 So I know you want to ask me about the last day she was here, 1004 00:59:28,986 --> 00:59:32,365 the last day that I saw her, the day she disappeared. 1005 00:59:32,407 --> 00:59:34,450 [ Sniffles ] 1006 00:59:34,492 --> 00:59:37,328 I know that's what it's all leading up to. 1007 00:59:37,370 --> 00:59:41,833 Why didn't I make a phone call? Why didn't I call 911? 1008 00:59:41,874 --> 00:59:44,794 Why lie?