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{\an8} Have you heard about Kai,
the hitchhiking hatchet hero?
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{\an8}If you haven't, you will.
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{\an8}It's the hottest video
on the Internet right now.
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{\an8}- What do you wanna talk about?
- What happened?
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{\an8}An absolute bizarre scene
here in West Fresno
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{\an8}at the corner of McKinley and Marks.
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My mom ran to the driver
to make sure he was okay
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'cause we thought
maybe it was just an accident.
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He just kept saying he was Jesus Christ
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and he's gonna save all of us and that,
but we have to get…
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He used the N word,
meaning the Black people and that.
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He said we need
to get them off of the earth.
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- Can we talk to you? Do you mind?
- What do you wanna talk about?
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What happened today?
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Well, went straight outta Dogtown.
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Skateboarding, surfing it up…
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Before I say anything else, I wanna say
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no matter what you've done,
you deserve respect.
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Even if you make mistakes, you're lovable,
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and it doesn't matter your looks,
skills, or age, size, or anything,
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you're worthwhile. No one can ever
take that away from you. Now…
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I look over. The guy's pinned there.
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Buddy gets out.
These two women are trying to help him.
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He runs up, and he grabs one of them, man.
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A guy that big can snap a woman's neck
like a pencil stick.
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So I fucking ran up behind him
with a hatchet.
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Smash! Smash! Smash!
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Yeah.
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That woman was in danger.
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He just finished, what looked like
at the time, killing somebody.
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If I hadn't done that,
he would've killed more people.
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How'd you get in his car?
I was… I was hitchhiking.
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Well, good thing I was hitchhiking.
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Yeah, people say, "Don't hitchhike.
This is what happens."
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- Yeah, well, at least I was here.
- Can I get your name?
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- I'm Kai.
- Can I get the spelling for it?
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- Straight outta Dogtown. K-A-I.
- Do you have a last name?
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No, bro. I don't have anything.
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As crazy as things got here,
the best news is,
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somehow, luckily, none of the injuries
suffered are life-threatening,
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and the guy driving that car is
right where he belongs, in police custody.
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In West Fresno,
Jessob Reisbeck, KMPH News.
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Yeah, it was fucking gnarly, man.
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Holy shit. It was like the biggest wave
I've ever ridden in my life.
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Now, this stuff right here, I was driving…
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Smash! Smash! Smash!
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- Smash!
- Smash!
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He literally has a hatchet in his hand.
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I'm absolutely obsessed with this guy.
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This guy's my fucking hero!
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Kai the Hatchet-Wielding Hitchhiker.
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Fuck yeah.
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{\an8}♪ I'm Kai ♪
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{\an8}♪ Smash, smash, smash! ♪
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♪ People say, "Don't hitchhike" ♪
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♪ Well, good thing I was hitchhiking ♪
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♪ That woman was in danger ♪
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♪ So I ran up behind him with a hatchet ♪
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♪ Smash, smash, smash! ♪
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♪ Yeah, yeah ♪
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♪ If he'd started driving that car again ♪
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♪ There'd be a hell of a lot
Of bodies around here ♪
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♪ Dude, that guy was fucking kooked ♪
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♪ He can snap a woman's neck
Like a pencil stick ♪
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♪ So I started smashing him in the head ♪
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♪ Smash, smash, smash! ♪
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Axe-wielding hitchhikers.
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I can't tell you how many times
I've rolled up my windows
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and sped past a hobo sharpening a hatchet.
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For the first time in human history,
people are saying,
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"Boy, we sure are lucky
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that homeless hitchhiker
was carrying a hatchet."
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{\an8}Ready or not, here's Jimmy Kimmel!
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Leave Britney alone!
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Whoa! My God! Oh my God!
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Oh my God! Whoo!
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Were you or were you not ingesting
or inhaling some sort of illegal substance
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when you made that--
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Absolutely not.
I was completely sober. In that video.
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{\an8} Don't miss the season premiere
of The Kardashians.
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If anyone's watching this and they got
a Mini Mal that they could lend a guy
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with a wetsuit,
I'd love to test out Mavericks.
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Uh, yeah, let's do this, in three...
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Look who it is!
We finally caught up with him.
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It is the world sensation,
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everybody's friend,
and pretty much a world hero,
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it's Kai.
Kai, let me tell you this real quick.
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You're like Batman,
except for you don't have the Bat-Signal.
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You know,
Batman obviously has the spotlight--
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And I'm not a filthy rich, spoiled fuck
who looks down on everyone.
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- You can bleep that, right?
- That was awesome.
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The first one-- Okay…
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This right here is one of my friends.
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Her name's Joan Sewitt.
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Now, on Saturday here,
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some of these, uh… some
of these policy enforcers up on over in…
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This is Stockton.
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They came on up with her with a gun.
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Like, they pulled a gun on her.
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That, to me, is fucking ridiculous.
That is a vulgar display of power,
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and not in a way that
I think Phil Anselmo would appreciate.
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How did it make you feel, though,
being this viral sensation,
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being everyone's hero right now, Kai?
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I'm not a virus. You kidding me?
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Shit, I'm a sensation. I'm Kai.
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So here's one I wrote.
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♪ I've never seen a beauty
Like you before ♪
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♪ Breathless kisses through the door ♪
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♪ You got that shiny light
Of fight in your eyes ♪
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♪ You're the sunset
That brings the twilight ♪
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♪ Soft, orange kisses, forlorn misses ♪
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♪ When you leave ♪
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♪ Soft, orange kisses, well-worn dresses ♪
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♪ That you leave ♪
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♪ Pull back my hood
And kiss me real good ♪
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♪ And just move
Get a little bit closer ♪
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♪ And pull back, and pull back, you do ♪
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♪ And just move ♪
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♪ We'll feel this groove
With the loving that we do ♪
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♪ We'll feel this groove
With the loving that we do, uh ♪
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- How do you know this guy?
- The Internet, man.
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He, uh… he hit some guy
with an axe in the head.
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How'd you get up here?
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Uh, hitchhiked.
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- Sweet.
- Yeah, bro.
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- Hope you still have the hatchet.
- No, I don't. They took it from me.
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Oh, we need to get you a new hatchet, sir.
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{\an8}KMPH is still the only TV station
in the world to talk to Kai,
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{\an8}but he is getting offers
for new television adventures,
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{\an8}like, well, you wouldn't believe.
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{\an8}So chances are you will be seeing him
somewhere new very soon.
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400,000 more of me.
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And then there's all the ones
who are just struggling to get up,
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but we're helping them.
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They kicked me out for skateboarding
in the middle of the thing
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- and drinking a bottle of JD.
- This was-- When was this?
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And I peed on the Walk of Fame,
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and all these publicity agents
are like, "No! Stop! Stop! Stop! Stop!"
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I was like…
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I'm kickin' it legit.
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{\an8}Thank you very much.
All right, unless you wanna go…
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{\an8}All right, now go on your way.
Thanks a lot.
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{\an8} The Fresno County
District Attorney's Office enlisted
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{\an8}the help of the Los Angeles County
Sheriff's Department
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{\an8}to track Kai down
at the Jimmy Kimmel studio
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{\an8}and take him into custody.
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{\an8}The DA's office served him with a subpoena
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{\an8}and says it needed to get a statement
about the attempted murder hate crime
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{\an8}that started this whole thing
because he is the key witness.
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I'm about to pick up
a very special hitchhiker.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
please say hi to Kai.
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Kai, jump in the car.
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Kai! Not on the car, in the car.
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I don't know if the car can hold
your weight. All right, there we go.
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Keep your eye on the road, man.
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Holy .
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Well, welcome, Kai. Welcome.
How are you?
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- Excellent. How about yourself?
- I'm doing good.
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They described you in the video
as "homeless hitchhiker,"
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but you don't like the word "homeless."
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- Home-free.
- Home-free.
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It's the land of the free
and the home of the brave.
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You don't want to have a home, correct?
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What the hell are you talking about?
I am home.
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Yeah, I see.
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So anywhere you are is your home.
That's your philosophy.
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A lot of people are calling you a hero
because you did.
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You thwarted that crazy guy, right?
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There's not so much difference between him
and who they sell as Jesus anyways.
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Well, I don't know. I haven't met him.
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Did he have a beard?
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No.
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No, no, he was…
he was a fat, rich, white guy.
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Now, um, you, uh…
Obviously, millions of people have seen--
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Nothing against fat, rich people.
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No, fat, white people, yeah.
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Yeah, you're sitting next to one. Um…
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Let's step outside the car for one second,
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because I don't know if you're gonna
give this away immediately,
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but we have something for you.
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There you go.
A Mini Mal surfboard and a wetsuit.
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Do with it as you will. If you choose
to give it away, then so be it.
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You all right, Kai?
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All right. Kai the Hitchhiker, everybody.
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Thanks, Kai.
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And thanks for not killing me
with a hatchet.
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Hey, everybody,
we got a great show tonight.
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Carl Reiner is here.
We'll be right back with Mindy Kaling.
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Yeah, okay. Let's watch movies.
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{\an8}Zero Dark Thirty
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{\an8}is about how we're being told
to keep our bodies alkaline
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{\an8}and being fed fluoride in the water.
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So if they laid a chemtrail
over the side of your house
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with scopolamine,
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and try to get y'all
to act like zombies
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so they could slay y'all
and take your houses,
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then that'd be
a good way of doing it.
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Osama bin Laden was a sheikh.
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{\an8} I wanna hand hug with you.
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{\an8}- Hand hug?
- Hand hug.
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{\an8}- Thank you so much.
- You're welcome.
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{\an8} This notoriety you've developed,
is this helping you with women?
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Are you dating these days?
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Am I dating?
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Are women coming up to you
in a way they haven't before?
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Uh, yeah, this one girl
was trying to see if it was me,
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and she walked into a stop sign
the other day.
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She was kinda mortified.
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I gave her a big hug,
and she was like, "You are Kai!"
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Let's go catch a wave.
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This made Kai an Internet sensation.
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He became a huge hit.
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- Or you should say "a huge smash."
- Oh yeah!
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Hey, Tanya.
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Hey, peeps, how's it going?
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Tanya Baker testified
that McBride attacked her
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while she tried to rescue Neely.
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He put me into a bear hug
and was hitting me on the back.
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Then Kai stepped in with his hatchet,
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hitting McBride over the head
not once, not twice, but three times.
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With no hatchet in hand this time,
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the man known as Kai took the stand,
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not before causing
a few observers to chuckle.
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Just a moment. Listen to the clerk
as she states the oath to you
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so that you can respond to it.
You only need one hand up, the right hand.
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Kai then testified
that just before the crash,
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McBride proudly told him
about raping a 14-year-old girl.
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He's like, "Well, I've come to realize
I'm Jesus Christ,
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and I get away with anything I want to.
Watch this."
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And I look up, and there's a whole crew
of construction people in front of me.
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Most of them jumped aside.
One dude got pinned underneath.
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Kai says McBride then turned on
several people who tried to help.
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He's still holding onto her,
so I smashed him again.
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And he's still holding onto her hair.
I was like .
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I smashed him real good and hard.
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Well, this one time, I was in an orchard,
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and this fucking guy starts beating
on this woman who he calls "his."
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So I walked on over,
and I started smashing him in the head.
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You see all these teeth marks right here,
for the camera?
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Yeah, I started smashing him in the head
and the teeth, busted out all his teeth.
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What are you planning on doing
now that the attention is on you?
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Because these things do have a shelf life.
It's gonna start to fade away.
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{\an8} This badass mother
doesn't come with a shelf life.
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I don't fit on a shelf. Yeah, yeah,
I don't fit inside time limits either.
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People are actually
interested in not just the fact
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{\an8}that I smashed a dude with a hatchet
who was trying to mass murder some people,
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but also in that I play some legit music.
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I play punk. I play grind.
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I play, like, serious metal. I can play,
like, six different instruments.
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There's been recording offers for me
from places like Greenhouse Records
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and, uh, Universal.
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{\an8}♪ I've never seen
A beauty like you before ♪
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{\an8}♪ Breathless kisses through the door… ♪
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♪ If you wake up dead
Bullets in your head ♪
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♪ I'm killing you, one by fucking one ♪
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♪ Not regretting a thing
Of what I've done ♪
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So I'm sure you know
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{\an8}who Kai the Hatchet-Wielding Hitchhiker
is by now.
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{\an8}He is all over YouTube.
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He's everybody's favorite hero right now,
but, uh, I actually met him.
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Are you his agent?
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Am I his agent? No, I don't have,
nor am I had by anybody.
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But no matter what you've done,
you deserve respect.
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No matter your looks or your skills,
you're worthwhile.
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No, this is for everyone.
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{\an8}And it doesn't matter,
like, if you make mistakes,
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{\an8}you're still lovable.
There's four different types of love.
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{\an8}There's putting up with somebody.
There's liking somebody.
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{\an8}There's, then, like,
romantically liking somebody,
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{\an8}and there's, like, actually be willing
to kill somebody else for somebody.
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{\an8}Like, sacrificial love.
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I just turned 17 on the road.
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{\an8}There was this guy, and he held me down,
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and then he, like, hit me a couple times,
and he started choking me.
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Uh, he turned me over and he pulled
my pants down and started raping me.
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Tell me more.
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Oh, bro. Okay, you want me
to start from when I was a kid?
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I was locked in a cage
for fucking four years
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and treated like an animal.
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Uh, they installed a lock on the door
that went from the outside in
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so that they could sit
and watch TV and fuck and shit.
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I don't have any family.
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Like, as far as anybody I grew up with
is concerned, I'm already dead.
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So, whatever.
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Um, if you're still watching this,
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that means that you obviously
like what you see,
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so that's very nice and very pretty.
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00:54:59,339 --> 00:55:01,841
You may notice
that my eyes seem very dark.
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In fact, maybe the whole picture
seems dark right now.
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Something I think Madame Guyon called
"the dark night of the soul."
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♪ When I was four ♪
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♪ I had a lighter ♪
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♪ Tried to burn my parent's house
Right to the ground… ♪
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♪ I mean, it's like ♪
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♪ We all wild and feral inside ♪
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♪ Ain't nothin'
That you gotta try and hide ♪
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Smash! Smash!
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- Smash!
- Is that really you?
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- Oh yeah.
- Dude, come here, please. Please.
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00:57:18,936 --> 00:57:20,146
Hey, smash!
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00:57:20,229 --> 00:57:24,275
Can you buy me a bottle
if you can take 17 pictures of me?
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00:57:24,358 --> 00:57:26,819
- This is a video. We'll give you a beer.
- Smash guy!
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00:57:26,903 --> 00:57:29,071
- Smash!
- Smash!
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00:57:29,155 --> 00:57:30,698
- Smash!
- Oh shit!
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00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,617
Smash! Smash!
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00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:35,328
- Smash!
- Fucking hero right here.
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00:57:35,411 --> 00:57:36,996
- Smash!
- Oh!
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"Are you the real Kai? Are you
the real Kai? Is that really you?"
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"Did that really happen?"
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00:58:08,569 --> 00:58:12,365
And it's, like,
if you was a lot bigger than you are,
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I'd just reach out,
and I'd be like, "Smack!"
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"Does that feel real?"
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01:03:54,999 --> 01:03:57,793
Breaking news. Minutes ago,
we learned who police are searching for
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in the murder of a lawyer
in Clark, New Jersey.
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Wait until you hear
who they are looking for.
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Caleb Lawrence McGillvary.
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You might also know him
as Kai the Hatchet-Wielding Hitchhiker.
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01:04:11,682 --> 01:04:14,518
He should be considered
armed and dangerous.
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01:04:14,602 --> 01:04:15,895
They don't know where he is.
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01:04:15,978 --> 01:04:19,732
He relies on the generosity of strangers
for food and lodging.
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01:04:19,815 --> 01:04:21,942
Remember, he's a hitchhiker.
He could be anywhere.
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01:05:07,738 --> 01:05:11,075
My name is Ted Romankow.
I'm the Union County prosecutor.
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01:05:11,867 --> 01:05:17,706
Uh, we're here today to announce
that an arrest warrant has been issued
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01:05:17,790 --> 01:05:21,961
for the arrest of,
uh, Caleb, uh, McGillvary.
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01:05:41,021 --> 01:05:43,649
We don't know where he is, but we do know
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that this man is
used to being on the road,
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01:05:46,819 --> 01:05:50,030
and he is considered dangerous.
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01:05:50,114 --> 01:05:51,615
Make no mistake about it.
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01:05:51,699 --> 01:05:53,951
He is considered armed and dangerous.
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01:09:27,289 --> 01:09:29,041
Hey, Kim, this is Kai.
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01:09:29,124 --> 01:09:31,835
Um, my place fell through.
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01:09:31,919 --> 01:09:35,088
I was wondering,
would you still be able to ride up here?
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01:09:35,172 --> 01:09:37,674
Um, it'd be really awesome if you could.
334
01:09:38,175 --> 01:09:40,719
But, yeah, if you could text me back here.
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01:09:40,802 --> 01:09:42,846
My phone keeps dying.
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01:10:35,607 --> 01:10:39,027
{\an8} An employee inside a Starbucks
recognized him
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01:10:39,111 --> 01:10:40,737
and quickly called 911.
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01:10:41,947 --> 01:10:43,907
{\an8} Police arrived.
He was not there.
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01:10:43,991 --> 01:10:46,326
{\an8}Officers began to look
in the immediate area.
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01:10:46,410 --> 01:10:50,497
{\an8}One officer took a chance
and went to the Greyhound bus station,
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01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:53,625
saw him in the waiting area,
called for backup,
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01:10:53,709 --> 01:10:55,252
and, uh, made an arrest.
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01:11:12,394 --> 01:11:14,771
Can you just tell us what happened?
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01:11:14,855 --> 01:11:16,440
Can you tell us what happened?
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01:11:16,523 --> 01:11:19,651
I've been advised by an attorney
not to say anything to you guys.
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01:11:20,652 --> 01:11:22,487
I'd like to say thank you
to all the supporters.
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01:11:44,551 --> 01:11:47,512
In February,
Kai the Hatchet-Wielding Hitchhiker
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01:11:47,596 --> 01:11:51,391
risked his life to save the lives
of innocent people in West Fresno.
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01:11:51,475 --> 01:11:55,020
Today, he's been arrested
for allegedly taking the life
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01:11:55,103 --> 01:11:56,897
of a man in New Jersey.
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01:12:09,993 --> 01:12:14,081
Tell us everything you want
to tell us from the beginning of it.
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01:12:15,457 --> 01:12:17,292
He met me up in Times Square.
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01:12:17,376 --> 01:12:19,961
He's like, "Oh, you look lost.
Where you heading to?"
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01:12:20,045 --> 01:12:20,921
I says, "Jersey."
355
01:12:21,421 --> 01:12:24,716
He says, "Oh, I'm… I'm headed there."
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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,260
"You want to go get a bite to eat?"
and stuff.
357
01:12:27,344 --> 01:12:30,263
At first, I thought he was really nice,
and then he fuckin' raped me.
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01:12:30,764 --> 01:12:32,224
What did you guys eat?
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01:12:32,724 --> 01:12:37,896
Uh, he got some, um, Parmigiano stuff
from an Italian restaurant nearby.
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01:12:38,772 --> 01:12:40,440
And then what'd you guys do?
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01:12:41,316 --> 01:12:42,818
Then we was drinking beer,
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01:12:42,901 --> 01:12:47,489
and he wanted to put the beer into a glass
instead of a bottle,
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01:12:47,572 --> 01:12:50,742
and, uh, we watched some TV.
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01:12:50,826 --> 01:12:53,578
Then I felt sleepy so I went to bed.
365
01:12:53,662 --> 01:12:54,955
I woke up the next morning,
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01:12:55,038 --> 01:12:57,040
and there's a metallic taste in my mouth.
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01:12:57,124 --> 01:13:00,627
I looked in the mirror, and there's come
coming down the side of my face.
368
01:13:01,545 --> 01:13:03,797
- Did you confront him?
- No, I didn't.
369
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,925
Okay. You wake up,
he tells you it's tme to wake up?
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01:13:07,008 --> 01:13:11,179
He drove me over to New Jersey Transit
and got me a ticket over to Asbury.
371
01:13:11,263 --> 01:13:13,807
Okay. And what'd you say to him?
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01:13:15,016 --> 01:13:17,018
I said goodbye and he says, you know,
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01:13:17,102 --> 01:13:18,979
"Call me at this number or email me
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01:13:19,062 --> 01:13:22,065
if you ever need a place to stay
for a night or something."
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01:13:22,691 --> 01:13:24,526
Then he buys you
a train ticket?
376
01:13:24,609 --> 01:13:25,819
Yeah.
377
01:13:25,902 --> 01:13:28,947
I went to Asbury to wait for a friend
who said they're gonna meet me
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01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:31,116
at, like, one or two,
and five o'clock rolled around,
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01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:33,785
they still weren't around,
so I called him back.
380
01:13:34,369 --> 01:13:36,496
So your friends don't show up?
381
01:13:37,205 --> 01:13:39,082
No, and I got, uh…
382
01:13:40,876 --> 01:13:44,296
I got raped. Like, you're saying you're
charging me with first degree murder?
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01:13:44,838 --> 01:13:45,755
Right.
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01:13:45,839 --> 01:13:48,592
So when your friends don't show up,
what did you do?
385
01:13:49,509 --> 01:13:52,929
I went back up to see if he'd be able
to put me up for the night.
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01:13:53,972 --> 01:13:55,474
And what did you guys do?
387
01:13:56,099 --> 01:13:58,351
Um, he brought me back over to his place
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01:13:58,435 --> 01:14:01,605
and said that, uh,
he didn't wanna order out that night,
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01:14:01,688 --> 01:14:03,398
so he gave me some burgers
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01:14:03,482 --> 01:14:07,444
and, uh, drank a few beers.
That's all I remember.
391
01:14:07,527 --> 01:14:10,989
After that, I was waking up on the floor
and him trying to pull down my pants.
392
01:14:11,072 --> 01:14:13,742
Okay. So you wake up
on the floor with your pants down?
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01:14:13,825 --> 01:14:17,078
- Yeah, he's pulling down my pants.
- Okay.
394
01:14:17,162 --> 01:14:18,914
And how was he dressed?
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01:14:19,873 --> 01:14:22,042
Uh, he was… he was in his underwear.
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01:14:22,125 --> 01:14:23,126
Okay.
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01:14:23,877 --> 01:14:25,045
What happens next?
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01:14:25,128 --> 01:14:26,213
I just hit him.
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01:14:26,296 --> 01:14:28,089
He was trying to manhandle me.
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01:14:28,590 --> 01:14:31,301
- Okay.
- He threw me around, and I was like…
401
01:14:33,011 --> 01:14:34,429
What did you hit him with?
402
01:14:34,930 --> 01:14:37,641
I just… I just hit him.
403
01:14:38,642 --> 01:14:39,935
With your hands?
404
01:14:40,018 --> 01:14:44,022
Yeah, I don't even remember.
I could've elbowed him.
405
01:14:44,898 --> 01:14:46,691
Kneed him, I don't know.
406
01:14:46,775 --> 01:14:49,444
Okay.
So how did you finally get him off you?
407
01:14:50,862 --> 01:14:53,949
Well, I… I fucking hit him in the head.
408
01:14:55,283 --> 01:14:56,618
Can I get a drink of water?
409
01:15:07,796 --> 01:15:10,298
I should probably be talking to a lawyer,
shouldn't I?
410
01:15:10,382 --> 01:15:13,093
I can't give you
legal advice. It's up to you.
411
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,471
- I wanna talk to a lawyer.
- Okay, fair enough.
412
01:15:17,055 --> 01:15:21,434
Um, the time is approximately 9:50 p.m.
413
01:15:21,518 --> 01:15:25,146
Um, Mr. Lawrence has decided
to speak to an attorney.
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01:15:25,939 --> 01:15:27,524
Once I walk out of this room,
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01:15:27,607 --> 01:15:30,777
I won't be able to talk to you again.
Do you have any questions for us?
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01:15:30,860 --> 01:15:33,321
What's the penalty of this crime
in New Jersey?
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01:15:34,114 --> 01:15:35,740
That's not up to us to decide.
418
01:15:35,824 --> 01:15:37,659
That's up to the judge to decide.
419
01:15:38,451 --> 01:15:39,452
Is the…
420
01:15:40,245 --> 01:15:42,914
is the death penalty legal
here in New Jersey?
421
01:15:42,998 --> 01:15:46,334
Um okay, we're done, okay?
You asked for an attorney,
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01:15:46,418 --> 01:15:48,503
so we're gonna have to stop talking, okay?
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01:15:48,587 --> 01:15:49,588
All right?
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01:15:51,631 --> 01:15:53,466
- Good luck.
- Thanks.
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01:20:16,145 --> 01:20:19,482
{\an8}With this guy's past, I mean,
I don't think it's a surprise
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01:20:19,566 --> 01:20:21,693
{\an8}that he would snap
and do something like that.
427
01:20:21,776 --> 01:20:24,153
I don't think it was self-defense.
428
01:20:24,237 --> 01:20:27,365
I really believe
that this guy is innocent.
429
01:20:27,448 --> 01:20:32,287
He goes from hero to wanted man
in three months. How should I feel here?
430
01:20:32,370 --> 01:20:34,664
I want Kai to be free and just going on--
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01:20:34,747 --> 01:20:36,791
- You like the viralness of him.
- Yeah!
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01:20:36,875 --> 01:20:39,711
Is this a guardian angel?
Or a stone-cold killer?
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01:20:39,794 --> 01:20:41,337
Let us know in the comments.
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01:21:35,058 --> 01:21:36,309
The jury didn't believe me
435
01:21:36,392 --> 01:21:39,270
because people are used to
when a rape survivor isn't believed,
436
01:21:39,354 --> 01:21:41,230
the rapist is presumed innocent.
437
01:21:41,314 --> 01:21:44,150
But this was never a rape trial.
The rapist is dead.
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01:21:44,233 --> 01:21:47,904
This was a homicide trial.
Self-defense against rape is a right.
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01:21:47,987 --> 01:21:50,073
But they told the jury
the burden was on me
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01:21:50,156 --> 01:21:53,660
to prove intoxication and rape
by clear and convincing evidence.
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01:21:53,743 --> 01:21:55,954
But I deserve
the same presumption of innocence,
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01:21:56,037 --> 01:21:58,247
unless proven guilty
beyond a reasonable doubt,
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01:21:58,331 --> 01:22:02,460
that's given to the seven of eight rapists
that beat their charges and walk free.