1 00:00:00,021 --> 00:00:03,188 (dramatic airy music) 2 00:00:11,936 --> 00:00:14,700 - [Narrator] A rapper, record, producer, songwriter, 3 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:18,531 and actor, Eminem has a wide range of talents. 4 00:00:18,531 --> 00:00:19,364 - [Eminem] I've been writing lyrics 5 00:00:19,364 --> 00:00:21,207 since I was like 14 years old, 6 00:00:21,207 --> 00:00:23,028 you know, and just the more I wrote, 7 00:00:23,028 --> 00:00:24,558 the better I kept getting at it. 8 00:00:24,558 --> 00:00:25,721 - [Narrator] It is widely considered 9 00:00:25,721 --> 00:00:28,699 that he is one of the greatest and most influential artists 10 00:00:28,699 --> 00:00:29,942 of all time. 11 00:00:29,942 --> 00:00:33,252 He has been named King of Hip-Hop by Rolling Stone Magazine 12 00:00:33,252 --> 00:00:36,201 and one of the 100 greatest artists of all time. 13 00:00:36,201 --> 00:00:38,134 - What Eminem did was just come out 14 00:00:38,134 --> 00:00:40,105 and be such an original artist, 15 00:00:40,105 --> 00:00:42,809 you know, in terms of perspective and style. 16 00:00:42,809 --> 00:00:45,187 - I still feel like I'm an underground artist 17 00:00:45,187 --> 00:00:47,456 regardless of how many units I sell. 18 00:00:47,456 --> 00:00:50,562 The subject matter and the topics that I rap about 19 00:00:50,562 --> 00:00:52,395 are still underground. 20 00:00:53,271 --> 00:00:56,142 - I mean, in the simplest way to look at it, 21 00:00:56,142 --> 00:00:59,159 he made being a white rapper okay. 22 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:02,546 But beyond that, he's really redefined hip-hop. 23 00:01:02,546 --> 00:01:03,379 - I tell it like it is. 24 00:01:03,379 --> 00:01:05,935 And when you buy a "Slim Shady" album, 25 00:01:05,935 --> 00:01:07,003 you're gonna get Slim Shady. 26 00:01:07,003 --> 00:01:08,003 (hip-hop song) 27 00:01:08,003 --> 00:01:09,491 - [Narrator] He released successful albums 28 00:01:09,491 --> 00:01:13,958 such as "The Slim Shady LP" and "The Marshall Mathers LP". 29 00:01:13,958 --> 00:01:16,278 - I feel like if you wanna sue me at this point, 30 00:01:16,278 --> 00:01:18,936 just take a number because there's a lot of people in line. 31 00:01:18,936 --> 00:01:21,046 - His legal troubles have been numerous. 32 00:01:21,046 --> 00:01:23,355 He's known for his explicit use of words, 33 00:01:23,355 --> 00:01:25,513 often sending out aggressive signals. 34 00:01:25,513 --> 00:01:29,846 - A rawness and a keen intelligence, and a lyricism, 35 00:01:30,857 --> 00:01:35,421 and a mastery of the English language that a few artists, 36 00:01:35,421 --> 00:01:39,657 if any, have ever matched and none will surpass. 37 00:01:39,657 --> 00:01:41,112 (hip-hop song) 38 00:01:41,112 --> 00:01:43,184 - [Narrator] Despite that this rap artist 39 00:01:43,184 --> 00:01:45,912 has won the hearts of critics and fans alike, 40 00:01:45,912 --> 00:01:48,661 earning more than a dozen Grammy Awards. 41 00:01:48,661 --> 00:01:50,943 (hip-hop song) 42 00:01:50,943 --> 00:01:55,172 - People forget that Eminem worked at his use of language. 43 00:01:55,172 --> 00:01:57,055 - In terms of like straight up pure skill, 44 00:01:57,055 --> 00:01:59,638 he might be the best technician 45 00:02:00,896 --> 00:02:03,221 to ever reach that multi-platinum level. 46 00:02:03,221 --> 00:02:07,158 - He worked hard to fall in love with language 47 00:02:07,158 --> 00:02:09,833 and to find the immense way 48 00:02:09,833 --> 00:02:11,678 in which he was able to express himself. 49 00:02:11,678 --> 00:02:12,511 (hip-hop song) 50 00:02:12,511 --> 00:02:13,976 - [Narrator] He bases most of his songs 51 00:02:13,976 --> 00:02:16,881 on his personal struggles and those of his family members. 52 00:02:16,881 --> 00:02:19,863 (hip-hop song) 53 00:02:19,863 --> 00:02:21,240 - I think people appreciated 54 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,188 that if you come from a poor background 55 00:02:25,188 --> 00:02:27,168 and maybe even your entire life were told 56 00:02:27,168 --> 00:02:29,207 that you'd never amount to anything, 57 00:02:29,207 --> 00:02:32,803 that that's more reason and more motivation to make it. 58 00:02:32,803 --> 00:02:35,731 And I can't imagine that there's any rapper in the world 59 00:02:35,731 --> 00:02:38,172 who hasn't looked to Eminem and said, 60 00:02:38,172 --> 00:02:40,930 if he can do it, I can do it too. 61 00:02:40,930 --> 00:02:42,200 - [Narrator] One of the biggest sensations 62 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,918 in the rap industry, his albums have all been smashed hits. 63 00:02:45,918 --> 00:02:48,501 (hip-hop song) 64 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,663 (hip-hop song) 65 00:03:06,691 --> 00:03:09,762 - One of the things that is important for us all 66 00:03:09,762 --> 00:03:12,780 is to belong, to actually belong somewhere 67 00:03:12,780 --> 00:03:14,749 and belong to someone. 68 00:03:14,749 --> 00:03:18,332 And what defines Eminem's life from day one 69 00:03:20,636 --> 00:03:23,060 is that he never belonged anywhere. 70 00:03:23,060 --> 00:03:26,012 He was never part of either the family 71 00:03:26,012 --> 00:03:29,282 or the community in which he grew up. 72 00:03:29,282 --> 00:03:31,789 - [Narrator] Born on October 17th, 1972 73 00:03:31,789 --> 00:03:33,808 in St. Joseph, Missouri. 74 00:03:33,808 --> 00:03:36,514 Marshall Mathers had an extremely underprivileged 75 00:03:36,514 --> 00:03:38,372 and turbulent upbringing. 76 00:03:38,372 --> 00:03:40,757 His childhood traumas are recurring theme 77 00:03:40,757 --> 00:03:42,085 throughout his music 78 00:03:42,085 --> 00:03:46,042 and his lyrics paint a dark picture of his early years. 79 00:03:46,042 --> 00:03:48,612 - And I think the best way to describe his environment 80 00:03:48,612 --> 00:03:50,232 is grim. 81 00:03:50,232 --> 00:03:53,065 It was poor, it was trailer trash. 82 00:03:54,601 --> 00:03:56,805 His words, not mine. 83 00:03:56,805 --> 00:04:00,732 It was incredibly an impoverished way to grow up. 84 00:04:00,732 --> 00:04:02,161 And as a kid, 85 00:04:02,161 --> 00:04:04,728 he was never really like in a stable environment. 86 00:04:04,728 --> 00:04:06,719 His mom moved around a lot, you know. 87 00:04:06,719 --> 00:04:09,048 She didn't have any sort of like roots 88 00:04:09,048 --> 00:04:11,131 that he could hang onto. 89 00:04:12,277 --> 00:04:14,096 So I think he was just one of these kids 90 00:04:14,096 --> 00:04:17,925 who just ends up being kind of lost as a youngster 91 00:04:17,925 --> 00:04:20,739 and not really finding a community that supported him. 92 00:04:20,739 --> 00:04:23,866 - You know, at six months, his father, Bruce, you know, 93 00:04:23,866 --> 00:04:24,890 walks out on him. 94 00:04:24,890 --> 00:04:27,795 (hip-hop song) 95 00:04:27,795 --> 00:04:30,640 The abandonment by his father at an early age left him 96 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,640 with no male role model. 97 00:04:34,025 --> 00:04:37,942 And worse than that, with a sense that the male 98 00:04:39,756 --> 00:04:42,272 into whose care he was entrusted 99 00:04:42,272 --> 00:04:45,625 did not think highly enough of him to stick around 100 00:04:45,625 --> 00:04:47,165 and make sure he was okay. 101 00:04:47,165 --> 00:04:48,957 And that was the first act of abandonment 102 00:04:48,957 --> 00:04:50,633 that Marsh started to put up with. 103 00:04:50,633 --> 00:04:52,275 You know, his mother is troubled. 104 00:04:52,275 --> 00:04:54,086 His grandmother was an alcoholic 105 00:04:54,086 --> 00:04:57,336 who was, you know, allegedly, you know, 106 00:04:58,524 --> 00:05:02,303 abused by her mother, which would be his great-grandmother. 107 00:05:02,303 --> 00:05:06,326 So he's got this dysfunctional family he grows up in. 108 00:05:06,326 --> 00:05:08,966 He moves as a child every few months, 109 00:05:08,966 --> 00:05:12,291 he's moving from place to place. 110 00:05:12,291 --> 00:05:15,708 He's got no stability in his family life. 111 00:05:16,847 --> 00:05:21,555 No anchor where he can sit down and say, this is who I am, 112 00:05:21,555 --> 00:05:24,811 this is where I live, this is my part of the world. 113 00:05:24,811 --> 00:05:27,891 He was deprived of that from an early age, 114 00:05:27,891 --> 00:05:30,761 and that had long-term and significant effect, 115 00:05:30,761 --> 00:05:34,985 and ultimately drove, you know, his creativity. 116 00:05:34,985 --> 00:05:38,217 It's where that genius comes from. 117 00:05:38,217 --> 00:05:40,837 - [Narrator] After Bruce Mathers had abandoned the family, 118 00:05:40,837 --> 00:05:43,730 it was up to Debbie Mathers to raise the young Marshall 119 00:05:43,730 --> 00:05:45,445 as a single parent. 120 00:05:45,445 --> 00:05:48,370 It proved to be a tough task, and as a result, 121 00:05:48,370 --> 00:05:51,298 their relationship became increasingly volatile. 122 00:05:51,298 --> 00:05:54,011 - Anyone who's heard Eminem's, you know, music 123 00:05:54,011 --> 00:05:58,829 knows his relationship with his mother is very volatile, 124 00:05:58,829 --> 00:05:59,945 very violent. 125 00:05:59,945 --> 00:06:04,725 - She described herself as an overprotective mother. 126 00:06:04,725 --> 00:06:08,089 She described herself as someone who smothered him a bit, 127 00:06:08,089 --> 00:06:11,555 but Molly coddled him a bit and didn't allow him to grow 128 00:06:11,555 --> 00:06:13,801 and be a strong, powerful man 129 00:06:13,801 --> 00:06:15,361 and be what a male child wants really, 130 00:06:15,361 --> 00:06:17,761 which is going to the world and be a man. 131 00:06:17,761 --> 00:06:20,411 - Eminem has never painted a pretty picture of his mom, 132 00:06:20,411 --> 00:06:21,279 Debbie Mathers. 133 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,995 His called her a pill popper. 134 00:06:22,995 --> 00:06:26,389 He said she was unreliable, that she was never around, 135 00:06:26,389 --> 00:06:28,979 that she dated the wrong kind of guys. 136 00:06:28,979 --> 00:06:32,288 It was clearly a very difficult relationship 137 00:06:32,288 --> 00:06:34,728 that perhaps started out really nicely 138 00:06:34,728 --> 00:06:37,172 as when he was a kid, because she nurtured him 139 00:06:37,172 --> 00:06:39,662 and he was able to discover music partly 140 00:06:39,662 --> 00:06:42,952 because his mom allowed him access to that kinda stuff. 141 00:06:42,952 --> 00:06:45,445 - It's as if his mother overprotected him. 142 00:06:45,445 --> 00:06:49,112 Now, the thing about maternal overprotection, 143 00:06:49,112 --> 00:06:50,926 people sometimes say, oh, what a good mother. 144 00:06:50,926 --> 00:06:53,077 She you know, is always there for him, 145 00:06:53,077 --> 00:06:54,584 always protecting him, always doing this, that, 146 00:06:54,584 --> 00:06:55,417 and the other. 147 00:06:55,417 --> 00:06:57,652 But overprotection is a form of neglect, 148 00:06:57,652 --> 00:07:01,819 every bit as neglectful and more difficult to spot 149 00:07:03,077 --> 00:07:05,834 than a mother who overtly neglects a child 150 00:07:05,834 --> 00:07:08,935 and leaves a child screaming in the corner. 151 00:07:08,935 --> 00:07:12,340 And what she deprived him of really was his power as a boy 152 00:07:12,340 --> 00:07:15,594 and his power as a man and his masculinity. 153 00:07:15,594 --> 00:07:19,836 And I think that that defined so much of his later life. 154 00:07:19,836 --> 00:07:24,706 - But in the end, it just seemed like she abandoned her kid, 155 00:07:24,706 --> 00:07:27,066 you know, as much as his dad abandoned him 156 00:07:27,066 --> 00:07:28,589 when he was six months old. 157 00:07:28,589 --> 00:07:30,037 (hip-hop music) 158 00:07:30,037 --> 00:07:32,546 - Marshall's exceptionally harsh childhood 159 00:07:32,546 --> 00:07:34,597 continued throughout his time at school 160 00:07:34,597 --> 00:07:38,187 where he was bullied and beaten on a regular basis. 161 00:07:38,187 --> 00:07:42,027 - A white kid moving around constantly from place to place 162 00:07:42,027 --> 00:07:44,819 in black schools, black neighborhoods, you know. 163 00:07:44,819 --> 00:07:47,460 He was a victim of kind of reverse racism 164 00:07:47,460 --> 00:07:48,762 where he was the white kid. 165 00:07:48,762 --> 00:07:50,643 He was alienated from white kids 166 00:07:50,643 --> 00:07:52,874 because he wanted to be a rapper. 167 00:07:52,874 --> 00:07:54,591 He was alienated from black kids 168 00:07:54,591 --> 00:07:56,141 because he wanted to be a rapper. 169 00:07:56,141 --> 00:07:58,520 He was bullied at school. 170 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,687 This is not a boy who grows up with a strong sense 171 00:08:03,744 --> 00:08:07,813 of his own power, because everybody wants to belong, 172 00:08:07,813 --> 00:08:11,388 and the person who's bullied is being told physically 173 00:08:11,388 --> 00:08:15,267 and unemotionally, that you don't belong here. 174 00:08:15,267 --> 00:08:17,201 And not only do you not belong here, 175 00:08:17,201 --> 00:08:21,443 we are going to punish you simply for who and what you are. 176 00:08:21,443 --> 00:08:23,205 And that's what he had to put up with. 177 00:08:23,205 --> 00:08:26,880 He was punished and beaten for who and what he was. 178 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,544 A small, weak, white kid in a black neighborhood 179 00:08:30,544 --> 00:08:34,352 trying to just survive and use whatever he could to survive. 180 00:08:34,352 --> 00:08:38,178 And it reached the point where in the famous song, 181 00:08:38,178 --> 00:08:42,039 he called "Brain Damage", where he talks about the guy 182 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:44,121 who literally put him in a coma. 183 00:08:44,121 --> 00:08:45,707 Five days he spent in a coma. 184 00:08:45,707 --> 00:08:47,790 It could have killed him. 185 00:08:49,093 --> 00:08:50,675 But the beatings didn't stop there. 186 00:08:50,675 --> 00:08:51,672 They just carried on. 187 00:08:51,672 --> 00:08:54,370 When he recovered from his coma, it just carried on. 188 00:08:54,370 --> 00:08:58,090 It wasn't as if he was subject to isolated act of bullying, 189 00:08:58,090 --> 00:09:02,458 it was sustained bullying over an entire childhood, 190 00:09:02,458 --> 00:09:05,009 right through his teenage years. 191 00:09:05,009 --> 00:09:06,538 And that's difficult, 192 00:09:06,538 --> 00:09:10,233 almost crippling for anybody to live with. 193 00:09:10,233 --> 00:09:12,865 And let's give him credit here for anybody who deal 194 00:09:12,865 --> 00:09:15,892 with what he had to deal with and come out as he did, 195 00:09:15,892 --> 00:09:19,306 purely for surviving it, nevermind what he did with it 196 00:09:19,306 --> 00:09:21,731 and what his creativity did with it, 197 00:09:21,731 --> 00:09:24,729 purely for surviving it, he deserves a medal. 198 00:09:24,729 --> 00:09:27,812 (slow hip-hop music) 199 00:09:29,380 --> 00:09:32,525 - [Narrator] Life changed drastically for Marshall in 1988 200 00:09:32,525 --> 00:09:35,023 when Kimberly Scott entered his life. 201 00:09:35,023 --> 00:09:37,463 Debbie Mathers had always wanted a daughter, 202 00:09:37,463 --> 00:09:39,948 and she jumped at a chance to foster Kim. 203 00:09:39,948 --> 00:09:43,070 And Marshall was about to enter into a relationship 204 00:09:43,070 --> 00:09:47,075 that would've a hugely significant impact on his life. 205 00:09:47,075 --> 00:09:50,350 - When Eminem was 15, she adopted Kim, 206 00:09:50,350 --> 00:09:54,653 who was later to become Eminem's wife, you know, and lover, 207 00:09:54,653 --> 00:09:57,938 and, you know, all about how complex that relationship was. 208 00:09:57,938 --> 00:09:59,952 And among these warring women, 209 00:09:59,952 --> 00:10:02,768 because Kim and Eminem and Kim and Debbie, 210 00:10:02,768 --> 00:10:04,345 everybody was fighting. 211 00:10:04,345 --> 00:10:07,147 It was a very turbulent environment. 212 00:10:07,147 --> 00:10:08,568 Among all these women fighting, 213 00:10:08,568 --> 00:10:12,109 you've got this by Eminem's own admission, 214 00:10:12,109 --> 00:10:17,109 he described himself as a child, he said, I was puny, timid. 215 00:10:17,143 --> 00:10:18,872 So you have this puny, timid child 216 00:10:18,872 --> 00:10:21,769 among these warring women. 217 00:10:21,769 --> 00:10:23,876 - [Narrator] Since Bruce Mathers had walked out on Marshall 218 00:10:23,876 --> 00:10:26,506 when he was just a baby, his uncle Ronnie 219 00:10:26,506 --> 00:10:29,745 was now the only significant male role model in his life. 220 00:10:29,745 --> 00:10:33,033 And it was Ronnie who introduced Marshall to hip-hop. 221 00:10:33,033 --> 00:10:35,099 - Uncle Ronnie gave him a copy 222 00:10:35,099 --> 00:10:38,783 of Beastie Boys' "Licensed to Ill". 223 00:10:38,783 --> 00:10:40,359 You know, it's a very easy album 224 00:10:40,359 --> 00:10:43,090 for, you know, young white kids to access 225 00:10:43,090 --> 00:10:46,224 because it very much based in rock music, 226 00:10:46,224 --> 00:10:50,029 at least musically, and, you know, it's very simple rhyme, 227 00:10:50,029 --> 00:10:51,505 very easy to understand. 228 00:10:51,505 --> 00:10:53,501 - He was also into like 2 Live Crew 229 00:10:53,501 --> 00:10:56,791 and, you know, some of the rappers that were coming up 230 00:10:56,791 --> 00:10:59,013 in the late '80s and early '90s. 231 00:10:59,013 --> 00:11:03,351 And, you know, coming from an urban environment of Detroit, 232 00:11:03,351 --> 00:11:05,715 I don't think people really affiliated hip-hop 233 00:11:05,715 --> 00:11:10,352 with Detroit so much until it exploded in the late '90s. 234 00:11:10,352 --> 00:11:14,001 But you could see that the roots to that music 235 00:11:14,001 --> 00:11:15,729 were laid much, much earlier 236 00:11:15,729 --> 00:11:17,688 in the late '80s and early '90s. 237 00:11:17,688 --> 00:11:19,471 - But also very revealingly, he later said, 238 00:11:19,471 --> 00:11:22,380 hip-hop, he said, is about manhood. 239 00:11:22,380 --> 00:11:24,297 It's about being macho. 240 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:29,141 And somehow he could see through entering that world, 241 00:11:29,141 --> 00:11:32,101 he could find his masculine power, his male power, 242 00:11:32,101 --> 00:11:34,134 his power as a man. 243 00:11:34,134 --> 00:11:37,567 It was the only way he could find it and express it. 244 00:11:37,567 --> 00:11:39,484 So not only was hip-hop 245 00:11:41,180 --> 00:11:43,676 and not only was his music and his creativity, 246 00:11:43,676 --> 00:11:46,970 an outlet for him to express himself 247 00:11:46,970 --> 00:11:49,427 and to find a way to express this crazy world 248 00:11:49,427 --> 00:11:52,001 in which he'd been born and grown up in, 249 00:11:52,001 --> 00:11:55,091 it was also his way to find his identity as a man. 250 00:11:55,091 --> 00:11:57,370 - [Narrator] Marshall's high school days were unproductive 251 00:11:57,370 --> 00:11:58,953 and unsuccessful. 252 00:11:58,953 --> 00:12:01,166 After repeating the ninth grade twice 253 00:12:01,166 --> 00:12:03,163 due to truancy and bad grades, 254 00:12:03,163 --> 00:12:05,758 Marshall dropped out of high school. 255 00:12:05,758 --> 00:12:08,112 He became a fast food chef at Gilbert's Lodge 256 00:12:08,112 --> 00:12:10,486 at St. Clair's Shores in Detroit. 257 00:12:10,486 --> 00:12:13,096 Life in the Mathers' household was tough 258 00:12:13,096 --> 00:12:14,670 and his relationship with Kim 259 00:12:14,670 --> 00:12:17,517 was proving to be very unstable. 260 00:12:17,517 --> 00:12:20,850 Then in 1991, then in 1991 came the news 261 00:12:21,902 --> 00:12:25,953 that would turn Marshall's world upside down. 262 00:12:25,953 --> 00:12:29,147 - [Man] Bud, this is Ron poking horn. 263 00:12:29,147 --> 00:12:30,958 - Life's hard bud. 264 00:12:30,958 --> 00:12:33,625 (hip-hop music) 265 00:12:37,842 --> 00:12:39,089 - The man who introduced him to rap, 266 00:12:39,089 --> 00:12:44,089 his beloved Uncle Ronnie, took a gun and shot himself, 267 00:12:44,312 --> 00:12:47,065 and he shot himself apparently after being jilted 268 00:12:47,065 --> 00:12:49,168 or dumped by a girlfriend. 269 00:12:49,168 --> 00:12:52,776 So again, you have two male potential male role models. 270 00:12:52,776 --> 00:12:54,902 One who abandoned him when he was only six months. 271 00:12:54,902 --> 00:12:56,917 Then his beloved Uncle Ronnie, 272 00:12:56,917 --> 00:12:58,829 who abandoned him by killing himself. 273 00:12:58,829 --> 00:13:01,672 And both of them, in some way, shape or form, 274 00:13:01,672 --> 00:13:04,470 were led to abandon him through troubled relationships 275 00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:05,363 with women. 276 00:13:05,363 --> 00:13:06,701 His father abandoned him 277 00:13:06,701 --> 00:13:09,036 because he couldn't get on with his mother, Debbie. 278 00:13:09,036 --> 00:13:10,512 Uncle Ronnie abandoned him 279 00:13:10,512 --> 00:13:13,423 because he killed himself over a woman. 280 00:13:13,423 --> 00:13:17,572 And so you have a pattern here, two significant males, 281 00:13:17,572 --> 00:13:19,362 father figures and paternal figures 282 00:13:19,362 --> 00:13:21,946 in Eminem's life disappear as a result of their relationship 283 00:13:21,946 --> 00:13:23,323 with women and leave him alone. 284 00:13:23,323 --> 00:13:26,822 - [Ian] And he has an RIP Ronnie tattoo on his arm, 285 00:13:26,822 --> 00:13:30,076 and he mentions Ronnie by name in the song "Stan", 286 00:13:30,076 --> 00:13:32,879 as, you know, something that his fans can really relate to. 287 00:13:32,879 --> 00:13:35,629 (hip-hop music) 288 00:13:39,121 --> 00:13:41,967 - You know, that's just a harsh reality to deal with 289 00:13:41,967 --> 00:13:43,352 no matter who it is. 290 00:13:43,352 --> 00:13:46,256 But when it was someone so close to you, 291 00:13:46,256 --> 00:13:47,922 it could have really messed you up. 292 00:13:47,922 --> 00:13:50,034 And I think it really messed up Eminem. 293 00:13:50,034 --> 00:13:51,363 But at the same time, 294 00:13:51,363 --> 00:13:55,521 it also gave him something to write about, you know, 295 00:13:55,521 --> 00:13:58,042 emotions that he needed to get in touch with. 296 00:13:58,042 --> 00:14:00,968 And those feelings, I think, turned 297 00:14:00,968 --> 00:14:03,496 into, you know, some of the greatest raps 298 00:14:03,496 --> 00:14:04,519 that we've ever heard. 299 00:14:04,519 --> 00:14:06,634 - And that leaves him very much at the mercy of the world. 300 00:14:06,634 --> 00:14:08,042 He has no male role model. 301 00:14:08,042 --> 00:14:11,066 And the men he grew up with, the boys he grew up with, 302 00:14:11,066 --> 00:14:13,519 his peer group was not one in which he could belong. 303 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:15,555 He was a white kid in a black neighborhood. 304 00:14:15,555 --> 00:14:17,706 He was a white kid who wanted to be something 305 00:14:17,706 --> 00:14:20,999 that both whites and blacks were telling him he couldn't be. 306 00:14:20,999 --> 00:14:22,921 So you've got nowhere for him to go. 307 00:14:22,921 --> 00:14:27,093 And once a boy loses his male role model, 308 00:14:27,093 --> 00:14:29,978 well, then the peer group was the substitute. 309 00:14:29,978 --> 00:14:32,070 And what did his peer group do to him? 310 00:14:32,070 --> 00:14:34,633 Ostracized him, turned him into an outcast. 311 00:14:34,633 --> 00:14:36,395 - Eminem was in a sort of situation 312 00:14:36,395 --> 00:14:37,914 where he was constantly struggling. 313 00:14:37,914 --> 00:14:41,185 He was struggling at school, he was bullied tremendously. 314 00:14:41,185 --> 00:14:43,144 He was struggling to be heard at home. 315 00:14:43,144 --> 00:14:45,332 He was struggling to be heard as an artist. 316 00:14:45,332 --> 00:14:46,880 People weren't accepting him 317 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,824 as a sort of natural hip-hop rapper 318 00:14:49,824 --> 00:14:51,525 because he's a white guy. 319 00:14:51,525 --> 00:14:54,385 So all of those things came to head in his teen years. 320 00:14:54,385 --> 00:14:57,448 - After he got introduced to "Licensed to Ill" hip-hop 321 00:14:57,448 --> 00:15:00,098 just became a thing that he did, 322 00:15:00,098 --> 00:15:01,295 you know, he put his heart into, 323 00:15:01,295 --> 00:15:04,122 like that was his salvation. 324 00:15:04,122 --> 00:15:05,676 You know, maybe not necessarily seeing it 325 00:15:05,676 --> 00:15:07,308 as a way of getting out of Detroit, 326 00:15:07,308 --> 00:15:09,786 but, you know, just as a way of dealing 327 00:15:09,786 --> 00:15:11,054 with being in Detroit. 328 00:15:11,054 --> 00:15:12,814 - They were incredibly formative years 329 00:15:12,814 --> 00:15:16,833 because they helped create the superstar rapper 330 00:15:16,833 --> 00:15:17,877 that we all know today, 331 00:15:17,877 --> 00:15:19,959 and that was all born of those years. 332 00:15:19,959 --> 00:15:23,360 But at the same time, it was like it was a constant battle. 333 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,020 It was a battle with his own inner demons. 334 00:15:25,020 --> 00:15:26,560 It was battle with people outside, 335 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,456 and it was literally physical fights with kids that he knew. 336 00:15:30,456 --> 00:15:33,028 So his teenage years were, I would say, rough. 337 00:15:33,028 --> 00:15:35,778 (hip-hop music) 338 00:15:37,168 --> 00:15:38,227 - [Narrator] Throughout his teenage years 339 00:15:38,227 --> 00:15:40,971 and after the death of his beloved Uncle Ronnie, 340 00:15:40,971 --> 00:15:44,096 Eminem continued to focus on hip-hop, 341 00:15:44,096 --> 00:15:46,404 a source of escapism that helped him deal 342 00:15:46,404 --> 00:15:47,999 with his troubled life. 343 00:15:47,999 --> 00:15:52,999 In 1996, Kim gave birth to a baby girl, Hailie Jade Scott. 344 00:15:53,198 --> 00:15:55,633 And soon after the birth of his daughter, 345 00:15:55,633 --> 00:15:59,976 Eminem released his first solo album, "Infinite". 346 00:15:59,976 --> 00:16:01,086 - As shown in "8 Mile", 347 00:16:01,086 --> 00:16:04,870 Eminem had really become a battle tested, quite literally. 348 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:06,118 He would be in battle raps 349 00:16:06,118 --> 00:16:09,971 and, you know, he would get a little studio time in Detroit 350 00:16:09,971 --> 00:16:14,092 with labels that would just fold about a year later. 351 00:16:14,092 --> 00:16:15,490 Nothing really ever came of it. 352 00:16:15,490 --> 00:16:18,009 But, you know, as time went on, 353 00:16:18,009 --> 00:16:20,848 he started to kind of develop his own sort of style. 354 00:16:20,848 --> 00:16:24,102 It was still very much based in the old, you know, 355 00:16:24,102 --> 00:16:27,502 very much based amongst rappers like, you know, Nas or AZ. 356 00:16:27,502 --> 00:16:29,081 And then he had "Infinite". 357 00:16:29,081 --> 00:16:31,975 And that's really when he started, you know... 358 00:16:31,975 --> 00:16:32,808 Even back then, 359 00:16:32,808 --> 00:16:36,967 he would just say that was him finding his voice. 360 00:16:36,967 --> 00:16:39,691 If you listen to, you know, "The Slim Shady LP" 361 00:16:39,691 --> 00:16:43,051 or like even things he did with Royce da 5'9, 362 00:16:43,051 --> 00:16:45,818 it's completely different guy. 363 00:16:45,818 --> 00:16:47,755 But nonetheless, you can still get a sense 364 00:16:47,755 --> 00:16:51,424 of someone finding his artistic voice. 365 00:16:51,424 --> 00:16:52,889 - [Narrator] After the release of "Infinite", 366 00:16:52,889 --> 00:16:55,034 Eminem's personal struggles in abuse of drugs 367 00:16:55,034 --> 00:16:59,867 and alcohol culminated in an unsuccessful suicide attempt. 368 00:17:00,775 --> 00:17:05,047 - After "Infinite" was released and flopped, 369 00:17:05,047 --> 00:17:08,464 Eminem allegedly tried to commit suicide. 370 00:17:09,634 --> 00:17:11,410 And you can see the dynamics of this, 371 00:17:11,410 --> 00:17:12,924 pretty straightforward really. 372 00:17:12,924 --> 00:17:17,924 Here, you've got a kid who's been deprived of everything 373 00:17:18,228 --> 00:17:21,102 a child needs to grow up and be strong. 374 00:17:21,102 --> 00:17:24,429 He's been deprived of a nurturing and supportive family. 375 00:17:24,429 --> 00:17:28,509 He's been deprived of a peer group to which he can belong. 376 00:17:28,509 --> 00:17:32,020 He's been deprived of a home or a city or a town, 377 00:17:32,020 --> 00:17:33,551 which he feels like he can call his own. 378 00:17:33,551 --> 00:17:35,648 And suddenly he has this dream, 379 00:17:35,648 --> 00:17:39,059 which is Uncle Ronnie instilled in him from when he was 11, 380 00:17:39,059 --> 00:17:42,703 I think, when Uncle Ronnie introduced him to rap. 381 00:17:42,703 --> 00:17:46,542 He's had this dream of being a rap artist. 382 00:17:46,542 --> 00:17:49,370 And then he releases his album and then it flops. 383 00:17:49,370 --> 00:17:51,150 He's used every resource, 384 00:17:51,150 --> 00:17:54,139 every available resource he's got left. 385 00:17:54,139 --> 00:17:57,155 This puny, timid, bullied child has got to the point 386 00:17:57,155 --> 00:17:59,341 where he's lifted himself up 387 00:17:59,341 --> 00:18:03,358 and he's found a means to express himself and it flops. 388 00:18:03,358 --> 00:18:06,768 At that point, his world must have caved in. 389 00:18:06,768 --> 00:18:10,279 He must have felt as if wherever he did, 390 00:18:10,279 --> 00:18:13,139 there was no way out for him from the prison 391 00:18:13,139 --> 00:18:14,205 that he felt he was in, 392 00:18:14,205 --> 00:18:17,736 the psychological prison that he felt he was in, 393 00:18:17,736 --> 00:18:20,925 and the bars, if you want, that his childhood 394 00:18:20,925 --> 00:18:22,705 and his youth had built around him. 395 00:18:22,705 --> 00:18:27,182 And at that point, he must have hit absolute despair 396 00:18:27,182 --> 00:18:31,383 and thought there is absolutely no way forward for me here. 397 00:18:31,383 --> 00:18:34,560 And mercifully, for him and for all of us, 398 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,173 he didn't succeed 'cause obviously he went on from there, 399 00:18:38,173 --> 00:18:39,951 pulled himself up again 400 00:18:39,951 --> 00:18:43,566 and produced some of the best music of his generation. 401 00:18:43,566 --> 00:18:44,955 - [Narrator] After "Infinite" had flopped, 402 00:18:44,955 --> 00:18:47,054 Eminem continued to battle rap his way 403 00:18:47,054 --> 00:18:49,044 through the underground scene in Detroit. 404 00:18:49,044 --> 00:18:51,684 Slowly, he started to make a name for himself 405 00:18:51,684 --> 00:18:54,900 and his volatile personality was beginning to take over. 406 00:18:54,900 --> 00:18:58,650 - He had a reputation and Riley so is on the, 407 00:19:00,198 --> 00:19:01,926 if you want, the underground battle circuit 408 00:19:01,926 --> 00:19:04,494 where he was determined to make a name for himself. 409 00:19:04,494 --> 00:19:06,020 You know, it has been highly unpredictable. 410 00:19:06,020 --> 00:19:08,519 I mean, there were stories of him diving 411 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:10,918 into the audience once and starting a fight 412 00:19:10,918 --> 00:19:12,227 because somebody tried to hit him 413 00:19:12,227 --> 00:19:14,899 or somebody had insulted him or whatever it was. 414 00:19:14,899 --> 00:19:18,405 It's as if he'd found this vehicle to express himself 415 00:19:18,405 --> 00:19:21,329 and he'd found an outlet for his emotions, for his rage, 416 00:19:21,329 --> 00:19:24,065 for his pain, and it lost his inhibition. 417 00:19:24,065 --> 00:19:26,650 He just was letting himself go. 418 00:19:26,650 --> 00:19:29,397 - Traditionally, that's been a way for rappers 419 00:19:29,397 --> 00:19:32,250 to make a name for themselves in hip-hop 420 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:34,474 because, you know, it's one thing to be able 421 00:19:34,474 --> 00:19:37,794 to, you know, record in a studio 422 00:19:37,794 --> 00:19:40,311 and say interesting stuff that you've written down. 423 00:19:40,311 --> 00:19:41,274 But a lot of people think 424 00:19:41,274 --> 00:19:44,042 that if you can really come off the top of your head, 425 00:19:44,042 --> 00:19:46,471 can really perform before an audience, 426 00:19:46,471 --> 00:19:48,024 can make your opponent look bad, 427 00:19:48,024 --> 00:19:51,652 then you're a real bonafide rapper. 428 00:19:51,652 --> 00:19:54,292 - [Narrator] Eminem's underground success let him on a path 429 00:19:54,292 --> 00:19:57,935 to the 1997 Rap Olympics in Los Angeles. 430 00:19:57,935 --> 00:20:01,192 His appearance at the Rap Olympics would ultimately set him 431 00:20:01,192 --> 00:20:04,411 on his way to superstardom and offer him a chance 432 00:20:04,411 --> 00:20:07,567 to collaborate with one of the biggest names in hip-hop. 433 00:20:07,567 --> 00:20:08,400 (slow music) 434 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,441 - And that was really sort of like his breakout night, 435 00:20:11,441 --> 00:20:12,754 you know. 436 00:20:12,754 --> 00:20:15,544 From what I've read, to see him perform live 437 00:20:15,544 --> 00:20:18,870 was just something that people hadn't really experienced. 438 00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:20,431 Yes, there was vanilla ice 439 00:20:20,431 --> 00:20:22,818 and, you know, the whole concept of a white rapper 440 00:20:22,818 --> 00:20:24,187 wasn't novel. 441 00:20:24,187 --> 00:20:27,551 - The battle that launched him into stardom. 442 00:20:27,551 --> 00:20:29,299 You know, he was the only white kid. 443 00:20:29,299 --> 00:20:31,598 - A lot of people thought he should have won 444 00:20:31,598 --> 00:20:32,543 and his friends did, 445 00:20:32,543 --> 00:20:34,911 but he ended up coming in second place. 446 00:20:34,911 --> 00:20:36,223 And some of his friends thought 447 00:20:36,223 --> 00:20:38,011 that was maybe 'cause he was white. 448 00:20:38,011 --> 00:20:40,589 - He was the only white rapper. 449 00:20:40,589 --> 00:20:43,325 But one of the black judges was saying at the time, 450 00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:44,909 look, just give it this white kid. 451 00:20:44,909 --> 00:20:46,972 He's so much better than all the others. 452 00:20:46,972 --> 00:20:50,667 Give the award, give the medal to the white kid. 453 00:20:50,667 --> 00:20:52,646 He's the winner by a country mile, 454 00:20:52,646 --> 00:20:56,222 because he just had this incredible raw talent 455 00:20:56,222 --> 00:20:58,575 and he was head and shoulders above his peers 456 00:20:58,575 --> 00:21:00,475 in terms of his artistic creativity. 457 00:21:00,475 --> 00:21:03,192 - There was a style, there was an urgency, 458 00:21:03,192 --> 00:21:06,621 there was like something way deeper that came out 459 00:21:06,621 --> 00:21:09,274 on that night, which got him his record deal. 460 00:21:09,274 --> 00:21:12,295 - It came to the attention of Jimmy Iovine 461 00:21:12,295 --> 00:21:13,723 at Interscope Records, 462 00:21:13,723 --> 00:21:16,981 a hugely influential figure in hip-hop. 463 00:21:16,981 --> 00:21:20,051 And Iovine requested a tape of Eminems. 464 00:21:20,051 --> 00:21:21,995 It made the rounds in the office. 465 00:21:21,995 --> 00:21:23,029 Iovine loved it. 466 00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:24,843 He played it for Dr. Dre. 467 00:21:24,843 --> 00:21:26,949 And Dr. Dre was not one 468 00:21:26,949 --> 00:21:30,244 to pick a tape up off the slush pile usually. 469 00:21:30,244 --> 00:21:32,563 In fact, he said that Eminem's tape 470 00:21:32,563 --> 00:21:35,162 was the first time he'd ever heard an unsolicited tape 471 00:21:35,162 --> 00:21:37,400 and said, this is the real deal. 472 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,544 I need this kid right now. 473 00:21:39,544 --> 00:21:44,008 - And this, if you want, was his way to settle the scores 474 00:21:44,008 --> 00:21:47,225 from when the opposite was true of him as a child 475 00:21:47,225 --> 00:21:49,794 when he was the underdog and he couldn't match his peers, 476 00:21:49,794 --> 00:21:51,102 he was beaten. 477 00:21:51,102 --> 00:21:53,354 When he found his artistic voice, 478 00:21:53,354 --> 00:21:56,050 he then became the alpha male. 479 00:21:56,050 --> 00:21:59,277 That's the point at which he became the dominant male. 480 00:21:59,277 --> 00:22:01,958 - [Narrator] Eminem and Dr. Dre were about to embark 481 00:22:01,958 --> 00:22:05,621 on a collaborative journey that would revolutionize hip-hop. 482 00:22:05,621 --> 00:22:07,990 - Once I met Dre, he was kind of like, 483 00:22:07,990 --> 00:22:10,614 I had a vision of where I wanted to take it, 484 00:22:10,614 --> 00:22:13,776 and Dre just showed me how to take it there. 485 00:22:13,776 --> 00:22:14,888 You know what I mean? 486 00:22:14,888 --> 00:22:19,888 It's kinda like we both had the same like vision for myself, 487 00:22:20,071 --> 00:22:22,434 you know, where to take it and whatnot. 488 00:22:22,434 --> 00:22:24,469 And Dre just showed me how to execute it. 489 00:22:24,469 --> 00:22:25,302 - [Interviewer] When you first met, 490 00:22:25,302 --> 00:22:26,463 this is a question for both of you, 491 00:22:26,463 --> 00:22:30,364 what did you think of each other, honestly? 492 00:22:30,364 --> 00:22:32,497 - I thought he was a fucking dick. 493 00:22:32,497 --> 00:22:35,465 (audience laughing) 494 00:22:35,465 --> 00:22:38,439 And he probably thought worse of me. 495 00:22:38,439 --> 00:22:39,272 - [Interviewer] Dre. 496 00:22:39,272 --> 00:22:41,017 - I thought he was Tweety bird. 497 00:22:41,017 --> 00:22:43,070 (audience laughing) 498 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:46,455 No, 'cause he had this real bright 499 00:22:46,455 --> 00:22:48,893 fucking yellow sweatsuit on. (laughs) 500 00:22:48,893 --> 00:22:50,238 - Man, if I hear one more thing 501 00:22:50,238 --> 00:22:52,655 about that goddamn sweatsuit. 502 00:22:53,726 --> 00:22:57,100 I had this yellow outfit on when I first met Dre. 503 00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:59,031 It was like this outfit 504 00:22:59,031 --> 00:23:00,902 that a clothing company had given me. 505 00:23:00,902 --> 00:23:05,902 And I didn't have money like some people had at the time, 506 00:23:06,466 --> 00:23:09,947 you know, I was going on a week wearing it, 507 00:23:09,947 --> 00:23:12,439 so it was actually turning kind of green. 508 00:23:12,439 --> 00:23:13,582 (audience laughing) 509 00:23:13,582 --> 00:23:15,775 But he called me a banana when he met me. 510 00:23:15,775 --> 00:23:17,775 So it was on from there. 511 00:23:18,758 --> 00:23:20,726 (slow hip-hop music) 512 00:23:20,726 --> 00:23:21,950 - [Narrator] Eminem had been working 513 00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:23,525 on creating an alter ego 514 00:23:23,525 --> 00:23:26,189 that would allow him to express his dark side. 515 00:23:26,189 --> 00:23:28,994 And not long after he teamed up with Dr. Dre, 516 00:23:28,994 --> 00:23:30,661 Slim Shady was born. 517 00:23:31,506 --> 00:23:33,571 - You know, the whole concept of alter egos 518 00:23:33,571 --> 00:23:35,123 is not foreign to hip-hop 519 00:23:35,123 --> 00:23:38,500 and a lot of rappers have taken on these other identities 520 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:40,997 to basically say what they really wanna say. 521 00:23:40,997 --> 00:23:41,830 - [Interviewer] You've talked before 522 00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:43,757 about having three different personas, 523 00:23:43,757 --> 00:23:46,308 Eminem, Slim Shady, Marshall Mathers. 524 00:23:46,308 --> 00:23:49,283 Could you briefly tell us where one stops so the one begins 525 00:23:49,283 --> 00:23:51,549 and the difference between the three different characters? 526 00:23:51,549 --> 00:23:55,115 - Marshall Mathers stops when the Bacardi kicks in 527 00:23:55,115 --> 00:23:56,113 and then it's Slim Shady. 528 00:23:56,113 --> 00:23:58,227 (audience laughing) 529 00:23:58,227 --> 00:24:00,548 Eminem starts when I hate the stage. 530 00:24:00,548 --> 00:24:04,140 So it's the best way I know how to answer that. 531 00:24:04,140 --> 00:24:07,840 - Through Slim Shady, he found a voice 532 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,834 through which he could express anger and emotion and pain 533 00:24:11,834 --> 00:24:14,117 that was authentically his. 534 00:24:14,117 --> 00:24:15,699 - Slim Shady allowed Eminem 535 00:24:15,699 --> 00:24:19,219 to, I guess, kind of get a little bit of distance 536 00:24:19,219 --> 00:24:20,644 and take more chances 537 00:24:20,644 --> 00:24:23,470 in terms of like what, you know, his subject matter, 538 00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:26,658 in terms of talking about what was going on in his life. 539 00:24:26,658 --> 00:24:29,057 Eminem really made an art out of it. 540 00:24:29,057 --> 00:24:31,974 He took feelings that were his own, 541 00:24:32,986 --> 00:24:36,745 put them into a caricature and put them out to the world, 542 00:24:36,745 --> 00:24:39,234 so that if they infuriated you, 543 00:24:39,234 --> 00:24:41,501 you weren't necessarily mad at Marshall Mathers. 544 00:24:41,501 --> 00:24:42,869 You are mad at Slim Shady. 545 00:24:42,869 --> 00:24:46,348 - I don't try to, you know, polish up my shit for nobody. 546 00:24:46,348 --> 00:24:47,311 I don't, you know. 547 00:24:47,311 --> 00:24:48,144 I tell it like it is. 548 00:24:48,144 --> 00:24:50,651 And when you buy a "Slim Shady" album, 549 00:24:50,651 --> 00:24:51,750 you're gonna get Slim Shady, 550 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:54,292 you're not gonna get birds and bees and flowers and trees. 551 00:24:54,292 --> 00:24:56,559 - Every man, every woman at some point 552 00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:58,473 has violent fantasies. 553 00:24:58,473 --> 00:25:00,896 What people made the mistake with Eminem, 554 00:25:00,896 --> 00:25:03,313 when they listen to his voice 555 00:25:04,846 --> 00:25:06,388 as it's expressed through Slim Shady, 556 00:25:06,388 --> 00:25:08,903 they think he's saying something that is literally true 557 00:25:08,903 --> 00:25:11,051 or that he's literally going to do. 558 00:25:11,051 --> 00:25:13,610 What he is doing there, it's a vehicle. 559 00:25:13,610 --> 00:25:16,298 Slim Shady is a vehicle for emotions 560 00:25:16,298 --> 00:25:19,027 that he feels he hasn't been able to express 561 00:25:19,027 --> 00:25:21,808 and that there's no legitimate way for him to express them. 562 00:25:21,808 --> 00:25:23,365 That's where his anger comes at. 563 00:25:23,365 --> 00:25:25,433 That's where his rage comes out. 564 00:25:25,433 --> 00:25:29,018 - Slim Shady just allowed him to, I guess, play fast 565 00:25:29,018 --> 00:25:31,998 and loose with his own experience as well as subject matter. 566 00:25:31,998 --> 00:25:34,822 - I believe the things that I say are controversial. 567 00:25:34,822 --> 00:25:36,879 Me, it's just speaking my mind. 568 00:25:36,879 --> 00:25:39,200 So speaking my mind and telling it like it is 569 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,604 makes me controversial then whatever. 570 00:25:41,604 --> 00:25:44,236 I say what's ever on my mind, you know. 571 00:25:44,236 --> 00:25:47,153 But I had a good teacher, you know. 572 00:25:48,338 --> 00:25:50,708 - And it was a very smart move I think 573 00:25:50,708 --> 00:25:51,879 just in terms of marketing, 574 00:25:51,879 --> 00:25:54,703 in terms of the criticism that he probably inevitably knew 575 00:25:54,703 --> 00:25:55,880 would come his way 576 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,142 because it just gave him that out, the alter ego out. 577 00:25:59,142 --> 00:26:01,717 That's kind of the way I always saw Slim Shady 578 00:26:01,717 --> 00:26:05,196 as this caricature that Eminem invented. 579 00:26:05,196 --> 00:26:08,690 - This is a man who for all the abuse he suffered 580 00:26:08,690 --> 00:26:12,140 at the hands of his family, abuse of one sort or another, 581 00:26:12,140 --> 00:26:14,446 and certainly the violence he suffered in bullying, 582 00:26:14,446 --> 00:26:16,423 he suffered at the sense of his peers, 583 00:26:16,423 --> 00:26:18,192 he didn't identify with the aggressor, 584 00:26:18,192 --> 00:26:20,161 he identified with the victim. 585 00:26:20,161 --> 00:26:22,821 He identified with those people who were the underdogs. 586 00:26:22,821 --> 00:26:25,010 He identified with those people who suffer. 587 00:26:25,010 --> 00:26:28,245 He identified with those people who are in pain. 588 00:26:28,245 --> 00:26:29,824 And through his all alter egos, 589 00:26:29,824 --> 00:26:33,317 he's simply expressing the impotent, unexpressed, 590 00:26:33,317 --> 00:26:35,567 rage and pain of the underdog. 591 00:26:35,567 --> 00:26:37,858 Not something he was literally going to do. 592 00:26:37,858 --> 00:26:39,761 (hip-hop music) 593 00:26:39,761 --> 00:26:41,772 - [Narrator] "The Slim Shady LP" was released 594 00:26:41,772 --> 00:26:45,734 on February 23rd, 1999 under Interscope Records 595 00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:48,494 in Dr. Dre's Aftermath Entertainment. 596 00:26:48,494 --> 00:26:50,847 The majority of the record's lyrical content 597 00:26:50,847 --> 00:26:53,796 was written from the perspective of Eminem's alter ego, 598 00:26:53,796 --> 00:26:55,392 Slim Shady. 599 00:26:55,392 --> 00:26:58,064 The album was noted for its over-the-top depictions 600 00:26:58,064 --> 00:27:01,361 of violence and heavy use of profanity. 601 00:27:01,361 --> 00:27:03,776 - "Slim Shady LP" sold 3 million copies 602 00:27:03,776 --> 00:27:05,581 by the time the year was out. 603 00:27:05,581 --> 00:27:06,929 It was a huge success, 604 00:27:06,929 --> 00:27:08,910 especially for a first full length album. 605 00:27:08,910 --> 00:27:11,489 - And it really defined Eminem 606 00:27:11,489 --> 00:27:12,786 as a force to be reckoned with 607 00:27:12,786 --> 00:27:17,203 in terms of introducing all his crazy new characters, 608 00:27:18,197 --> 00:27:21,947 his crazy rhyme schemes, his funny illusions, 609 00:27:23,686 --> 00:27:27,540 his pop culture references, the stuff about his mother, 610 00:27:27,540 --> 00:27:29,244 his wife, Kim. 611 00:27:29,244 --> 00:27:31,532 It really defined who he was 612 00:27:31,532 --> 00:27:34,877 and it's an album that still holds up. 613 00:27:34,877 --> 00:27:38,087 The production from Dr. Dre is really interesting and fun 614 00:27:38,087 --> 00:27:39,107 in a lot of ways. 615 00:27:39,107 --> 00:27:42,080 It doesn't sound like a traditional hip-hop album. 616 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,946 It sounds like something that's more mainstream almost, 617 00:27:45,946 --> 00:27:48,400 something that crosses over to kids 618 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,055 who might not have grown up with hard street rhymes. 619 00:27:51,055 --> 00:27:56,040 - You know, I remember hearing it and thinking it was fun. 620 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,221 Like it was dark, but it had a sense of humor to it. 621 00:27:59,221 --> 00:28:01,060 It had like a sort of wink to it. 622 00:28:01,060 --> 00:28:02,757 - You know, just kind of a personal side. 623 00:28:02,757 --> 00:28:04,584 I remember, you know, watching MTV, 624 00:28:04,584 --> 00:28:06,787 it must have been like two or three in the morning. 625 00:28:06,787 --> 00:28:11,286 I was home from college and they showed the video 626 00:28:11,286 --> 00:28:14,982 for "My Name Is", and you know, the first thing's like, 627 00:28:14,982 --> 00:28:16,108 okay what's this guy? 628 00:28:16,108 --> 00:28:17,190 This guy's name's Eminem. 629 00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:19,695 Okay, he's a white guy. 630 00:28:19,695 --> 00:28:22,061 Like Dr. Dre's in this video. 631 00:28:22,061 --> 00:28:23,716 Like it's just like one of those moments 632 00:28:23,716 --> 00:28:26,036 where you just remember exactly where you were 633 00:28:26,036 --> 00:28:27,649 when you first see it. 634 00:28:27,649 --> 00:28:29,468 And I just remember thinking to myself like, 635 00:28:29,468 --> 00:28:31,137 I don't know if I like this or not, 636 00:28:31,137 --> 00:28:33,887 but this guy is going to be huge. 637 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:36,278 ♪ Hi, my name is ♪ 638 00:28:36,278 --> 00:28:37,111 ♪ Huh ♪ 639 00:28:37,111 --> 00:28:37,944 ♪ My name is ♪ 640 00:28:37,944 --> 00:28:38,902 ♪ What ♪ 641 00:28:38,902 --> 00:28:39,735 ♪ My name is ♪ 642 00:28:39,735 --> 00:28:40,622 ♪ Chika-chika Slim Shady ♪ 643 00:28:40,622 --> 00:28:41,976 ♪ Hi, my name is ♪ 644 00:28:41,976 --> 00:28:42,809 What? 645 00:28:42,809 --> 00:28:43,900 - Excuse me. 646 00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:44,733 ♪ My name is ♪ 647 00:28:44,733 --> 00:28:45,778 ♪ Chika-chika Slim Shady ♪ 648 00:28:45,778 --> 00:28:49,638 Can I have the attention of the class for one second? 649 00:28:49,638 --> 00:28:50,471 ♪ My name is ♪ 650 00:28:50,471 --> 00:28:51,841 ♪ Chika-chika Slim Shady ♪ 651 00:28:51,841 --> 00:28:54,152 ♪ Hi kids, do you like violence? ♪ 652 00:28:54,152 --> 00:28:55,901 ♪ Wanna see me stick nine inch nails ♪ 653 00:28:55,901 --> 00:28:57,809 ♪ Through each one of my eyelids ♪ 654 00:28:57,809 --> 00:29:00,321 ♪ Wanna copy me and do exactly like I did ♪ 655 00:29:00,321 --> 00:29:03,381 ♪ Try acid and get fucked up worse that my life is ♪ 656 00:29:03,381 --> 00:29:06,114 ♪ My brain's dead weight, I'm tryin' to get my head straight ♪ 657 00:29:06,114 --> 00:29:07,689 - Yeah, when my name has blew up, 658 00:29:07,689 --> 00:29:09,569 I didn't know exactly what it was gonna do. 659 00:29:09,569 --> 00:29:12,080 I mean this was my first time, you know, 660 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,544 actually doing this or whatever. 661 00:29:13,544 --> 00:29:15,216 It was my first time exposed to the public 662 00:29:15,216 --> 00:29:17,701 and I never considered myself anything more 663 00:29:17,701 --> 00:29:19,658 than an underground artist, you know what I'm saying? 664 00:29:19,658 --> 00:29:21,491 Just because of the subject matters I talk about 665 00:29:21,491 --> 00:29:22,568 and the way that I rap or whatever, 666 00:29:22,568 --> 00:29:25,868 the things that I talk about, I thought, you know, 667 00:29:25,868 --> 00:29:27,555 I was surprised to be honest. 668 00:29:27,555 --> 00:29:29,344 - [Interviewer] Were you surprised? 669 00:29:29,344 --> 00:29:30,594 - [Dr. Dre] No. 670 00:29:31,543 --> 00:29:35,285 - Visually, musically, in any aspect 671 00:29:35,285 --> 00:29:38,023 unlike anything I had ever seen before. 672 00:29:38,023 --> 00:29:42,339 And, you know, that was a perfect calling card 673 00:29:42,339 --> 00:29:43,349 'cause like, you know, 674 00:29:43,349 --> 00:29:46,177 when Dr. Dre's, you know, discovered Snoop Dogg, 675 00:29:46,177 --> 00:29:48,885 Snoop's first single was "What's My Name?" 676 00:29:48,885 --> 00:29:51,720 So you kind of gotta see the parallel there 677 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,442 where "My Name Is", you know, 678 00:29:53,442 --> 00:29:55,246 it's just a way of introducing himself. 679 00:29:55,246 --> 00:29:58,841 - And in "My Name Is", Eminem, or Marshall, Slim Shady, 680 00:29:58,841 --> 00:30:00,333 whoever you want him to be, 681 00:30:00,333 --> 00:30:03,089 again, is playing with the idea of his identity. 682 00:30:03,089 --> 00:30:04,428 Who is he? 683 00:30:04,428 --> 00:30:06,567 Who is the real Marshall Mathers? 684 00:30:06,567 --> 00:30:07,725 Who is the real Eminem? 685 00:30:07,725 --> 00:30:09,488 Who is the real Slim Shady? 686 00:30:09,488 --> 00:30:12,366 It's a provocation to people. 687 00:30:12,366 --> 00:30:17,265 He's provoking his audience and saying, who do you say I am? 688 00:30:17,265 --> 00:30:20,031 And really, there's something almost quite biblical 689 00:30:20,031 --> 00:30:22,405 about this, 'cause there's a very famous scene 690 00:30:22,405 --> 00:30:25,123 in the New Testament where Jesus says to his disciples, 691 00:30:25,123 --> 00:30:26,526 well, who do you say I am? 692 00:30:26,526 --> 00:30:29,287 And he's playing with the same thing, who do you say I am? 693 00:30:29,287 --> 00:30:31,255 Who do you think I am? 694 00:30:31,255 --> 00:30:35,255 And he's provoking people into really confessing 695 00:30:38,780 --> 00:30:41,810 and admitting something about themselves 696 00:30:41,810 --> 00:30:44,417 and challenging them to see themselves 697 00:30:44,417 --> 00:30:46,963 in the way that they see him. 698 00:30:46,963 --> 00:30:48,272 And it's a wonderful 699 00:30:48,272 --> 00:30:50,755 and only the greatest artist can do that. 700 00:30:50,755 --> 00:30:53,718 And Eminem plays the same game and he does it to perfection. 701 00:30:53,718 --> 00:30:56,254 - Even though it spawn a couple of huge hits, you know, 702 00:30:56,254 --> 00:30:59,223 "Guilty Conscience", well, you know, in its own ways, 703 00:30:59,223 --> 00:31:01,060 a little bit as gimmicky as "My Name Is". 704 00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:05,507 But I also had "Role Model", which I think was more in tune 705 00:31:05,507 --> 00:31:07,827 with the tone "Slim Shady LP" have. 706 00:31:07,827 --> 00:31:10,080 The one thing that struck out me is how lonely it is. 707 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,492 Like Royce da 5'9 is pretty much the only guest on that. 708 00:31:13,492 --> 00:31:14,978 This was just, you know, for the most part, 709 00:31:14,978 --> 00:31:17,012 one or two or three guys producing, 710 00:31:17,012 --> 00:31:18,845 most notably, Dr. Dre. 711 00:31:19,817 --> 00:31:22,534 Like they put all their chips on the table thinking 712 00:31:22,534 --> 00:31:26,044 that Eminem, in and of himself, was going to be a star. 713 00:31:26,044 --> 00:31:27,024 And, of course, they were right. 714 00:31:27,024 --> 00:31:30,555 Sold about 5 million copies incredibly quickly 715 00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:33,908 and, you know, got him a Rolling Stone cover. 716 00:31:33,908 --> 00:31:36,379 And by the turn of the century, you could argue 717 00:31:36,379 --> 00:31:39,236 that even before "Marshall Mathers LP", 718 00:31:39,236 --> 00:31:42,857 he was the, you know, not only the biggest rapper 719 00:31:42,857 --> 00:31:46,574 but, you know, one of the upper echelon of just musicians, 720 00:31:46,574 --> 00:31:48,141 like pop stars the whole. 721 00:31:48,141 --> 00:31:50,884 - And it made a huge impact on music journalists. 722 00:31:50,884 --> 00:31:51,717 I remember that. 723 00:31:51,717 --> 00:31:54,801 It was sort of like eye-opening, like, oh wait, 724 00:31:54,801 --> 00:31:57,985 there's a hip-hop culture and scene coming out of Detroit 725 00:31:57,985 --> 00:32:00,249 that we should pay attention to, you know. 726 00:32:00,249 --> 00:32:02,942 It was sort of unexpected. 727 00:32:02,942 --> 00:32:05,206 It really came at a very unexpected time. 728 00:32:05,206 --> 00:32:06,864 Grunge was already in the past 729 00:32:06,864 --> 00:32:08,559 and I feel like the music industry 730 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:12,824 was struggling to find a voice for the millennium, 731 00:32:12,824 --> 00:32:15,453 which ended up being rap rock. 732 00:32:15,453 --> 00:32:17,327 Eminem is a huge part of that 733 00:32:17,327 --> 00:32:18,783 and the reason it became popular. 734 00:32:18,783 --> 00:32:21,700 (electronic music) 735 00:32:24,878 --> 00:32:26,311 - [Narrator] Just a year after the release 736 00:32:26,311 --> 00:32:28,122 of "The Slim Shady LP", 737 00:32:28,122 --> 00:32:30,970 Eminem released arguably his greatest album, 738 00:32:30,970 --> 00:32:33,118 "The Marshall Mathers LP". 739 00:32:33,118 --> 00:32:36,036 The album featured more introspective lyricism 740 00:32:36,036 --> 00:32:39,102 including Eminem's response to his sudden rise to fame 741 00:32:39,102 --> 00:32:43,079 and the controversy surrounding his lyrics. 742 00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:46,110 - [Interviewer] This is a question for Eminem. 743 00:32:46,110 --> 00:32:48,651 I was just wondering which issue has been the most important 744 00:32:48,651 --> 00:32:53,528 for you to address in the new album and how did you do it? 745 00:32:53,528 --> 00:32:54,434 - Which issue? 746 00:32:54,434 --> 00:32:56,126 - [Interviewer] Yeah. 747 00:32:56,126 --> 00:33:00,709 - Critics would probably be the most talked about issue 748 00:33:02,382 --> 00:33:04,898 that I'm discussing on this album, you know, 749 00:33:04,898 --> 00:33:08,554 along with I say some things about some boy/girl groups 750 00:33:08,554 --> 00:33:11,965 and some other things about some other people, 751 00:33:11,965 --> 00:33:14,235 whether they deserved it or not, you know. 752 00:33:14,235 --> 00:33:16,382 In my book, they do if they're corny. 753 00:33:16,382 --> 00:33:20,464 So I brought it to a lot of sissies basically on this album. 754 00:33:20,464 --> 00:33:22,027 And critics who had things to say about me 755 00:33:22,027 --> 00:33:25,530 and didn't quite understand my lyrics last time around, 756 00:33:25,530 --> 00:33:28,448 you know, and took everything that I said literally. 757 00:33:28,448 --> 00:33:31,443 So, you know, basically, I'm addressing a lot of critics 758 00:33:31,443 --> 00:33:35,996 and I got like pretty personal on this album too, you know, 759 00:33:35,996 --> 00:33:39,609 that's why the album's called "The Marshall Mathers LP". 760 00:33:39,609 --> 00:33:40,636 - [Interviewer] How did you deal 761 00:33:40,636 --> 00:33:41,848 with the critics on the album? 762 00:33:41,848 --> 00:33:43,443 - How do I deal with the critics? 763 00:33:43,443 --> 00:33:46,281 You have to get the album and see. 764 00:33:46,281 --> 00:33:47,850 You might be mad. 765 00:33:47,850 --> 00:33:48,998 (interviewer laughing) 766 00:33:48,998 --> 00:33:50,003 - [Interviewer] Was that always gonna be the concept 767 00:33:50,003 --> 00:33:51,392 of the record, "The Marshall Matters LP"? 768 00:33:51,392 --> 00:33:52,642 When you first laid down the first rhyme 769 00:33:52,642 --> 00:33:54,054 and did the first beat, 770 00:33:54,054 --> 00:33:55,664 was that always gonna be what it was gonna be called 771 00:33:55,664 --> 00:33:56,871 and how it was gonna move? 772 00:33:56,871 --> 00:33:57,704 - Nah. 773 00:33:57,704 --> 00:33:59,989 Nah, I was juggling some titles around. 774 00:33:59,989 --> 00:34:03,338 At first, I was juggling around a title called Amsterdam 775 00:34:03,338 --> 00:34:06,450 because I wrote like four songs in two days 776 00:34:06,450 --> 00:34:08,450 when I was in Amsterdam. 777 00:34:09,463 --> 00:34:12,479 But basically, once I started writing the songs 778 00:34:12,479 --> 00:34:16,052 and, you know, seeing which direction the album was going, 779 00:34:16,052 --> 00:34:18,041 it just got more personal and more personal 780 00:34:18,041 --> 00:34:20,273 and, you know, I love the media. 781 00:34:20,273 --> 00:34:21,461 I thank God for the media 782 00:34:21,461 --> 00:34:23,454 because you guys give me shit to talk about. 783 00:34:23,454 --> 00:34:24,806 If it wasn't for y'all, 784 00:34:24,806 --> 00:34:28,470 I probably would've shit left to talk about, you know? 785 00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:30,417 - Really rounded out Eminem's persona 786 00:34:30,417 --> 00:34:33,615 and sort of defined him as a heavyweight rapper. 787 00:34:33,615 --> 00:34:36,517 It was the album, not only did it sell well, 788 00:34:36,517 --> 00:34:39,874 not only was it popular with average listeners, 789 00:34:39,874 --> 00:34:44,364 but it delved into some really sort of deep, meaty issues. 790 00:34:44,364 --> 00:34:46,300 - You know, I consider myself a perfectionist 791 00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:50,569 and I always wanna try to top my last, not just album 792 00:34:50,569 --> 00:34:53,096 but try to top my last song that I did. 793 00:34:53,096 --> 00:34:56,952 So you might hear the gradual buildup on this album 794 00:34:56,952 --> 00:34:59,349 from one song to the next, you know. 795 00:34:59,349 --> 00:35:02,805 Every time I sit down and write a rhyme or a song, 796 00:35:02,805 --> 00:35:04,342 I want it to be completely different 797 00:35:04,342 --> 00:35:05,761 from the last song I wrote 798 00:35:05,761 --> 00:35:07,979 and I want the rhyme style to be completely different, 799 00:35:07,979 --> 00:35:09,223 the beat to be different. 800 00:35:09,223 --> 00:35:12,680 So, you know, you might hear that on this album. 801 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,874 - And the song that comes to mind is "Stan", 802 00:35:15,874 --> 00:35:20,207 and it's a three part tragedy that has a real climax 803 00:35:22,325 --> 00:35:24,046 and really defined Eminem 804 00:35:24,046 --> 00:35:26,827 as someone who could tell interesting stories. 805 00:35:26,827 --> 00:35:28,881 And he wasn't just about jokes, 806 00:35:28,881 --> 00:35:32,525 he wasn't just about making fun of his mom, 807 00:35:32,525 --> 00:35:34,892 he was a guy who had a lot of substance. 808 00:35:34,892 --> 00:35:38,209 - The song was not so much about Stan, the fan, 809 00:35:38,209 --> 00:35:40,177 it's actually about Eminem 810 00:35:40,177 --> 00:35:43,181 and the complex world in world in which he lives, 811 00:35:43,181 --> 00:35:45,918 in which people find their identities 812 00:35:45,918 --> 00:35:49,500 by transferring all sorts of feelings and emotions onto him 813 00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:51,667 to try and make sense of their own lives. 814 00:35:51,667 --> 00:35:53,949 Just as then he is struggling with his 815 00:35:53,949 --> 00:35:56,581 and the sense that his life is out of control 816 00:35:56,581 --> 00:35:59,124 'cause he can't control what people are making of him. 817 00:35:59,124 --> 00:36:02,004 He can't control what people are saying about him. 818 00:36:02,004 --> 00:36:06,490 He can't control what people believe him to be. 819 00:36:06,490 --> 00:36:08,278 And that's what that message is. 820 00:36:08,278 --> 00:36:12,417 On the end of "Stan" where he finally, you know, writes back 821 00:36:12,417 --> 00:36:13,883 to Stan and says, look, I'm sorry, 822 00:36:13,883 --> 00:36:15,488 I'm sorry I'm so late in writing back. 823 00:36:15,488 --> 00:36:16,558 But, of course, it's too late 824 00:36:16,558 --> 00:36:19,869 'cause at this point, Stan has killed himself and his wife 825 00:36:19,869 --> 00:36:21,688 and his unborn child. 826 00:36:21,688 --> 00:36:24,771 It shows a kind of desperation really from Eminem 827 00:36:24,771 --> 00:36:26,130 as if, you know, what can I do? 828 00:36:26,130 --> 00:36:29,474 You know, I can never ever give these people what they want 829 00:36:29,474 --> 00:36:31,407 and they will make of me what they will. 830 00:36:31,407 --> 00:36:34,035 Am I responsible for that? 831 00:36:34,035 --> 00:36:38,900 It's a song of immense miracle beauty, of musical beauty. 832 00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:41,343 Unworthy captures the essence, 833 00:36:41,343 --> 00:36:43,879 not just of what it is to be a celebrity 834 00:36:43,879 --> 00:36:46,746 but more particularly of what it is to be Eminem 835 00:36:46,746 --> 00:36:49,123 and the complex world that he created 836 00:36:49,123 --> 00:36:50,629 and which he has to live with. 837 00:36:50,629 --> 00:36:53,929 - And, you know, he took a lot of criticism 838 00:36:53,929 --> 00:36:57,623 for his homophobia, for his violence in his songs, 839 00:36:57,623 --> 00:37:00,095 particularly against his wife 840 00:37:00,095 --> 00:37:02,602 and, you know, his threats to his mother. 841 00:37:02,602 --> 00:37:04,314 But at the end of the day, 842 00:37:04,314 --> 00:37:07,226 you got a sense that he was really speaking from the heart 843 00:37:07,226 --> 00:37:08,635 on all these things, 844 00:37:08,635 --> 00:37:11,274 that these were things that he was really feeling, 845 00:37:11,274 --> 00:37:14,642 that these experiences came from a really deep place 846 00:37:14,642 --> 00:37:15,631 inside of him. 847 00:37:15,631 --> 00:37:18,784 And that the album was a type of therapy. 848 00:37:18,784 --> 00:37:20,954 - [Narrator] The album spawned many hits, 849 00:37:20,954 --> 00:37:24,475 but the lead single was titled "The Real Slim Shady". 850 00:37:24,475 --> 00:37:26,643 The video features Eminem performing the song 851 00:37:26,643 --> 00:37:29,989 in a psychiatric ward, a local Detroit neighborhood, 852 00:37:29,989 --> 00:37:32,452 a fast food joint, the Grammy Awards, 853 00:37:32,452 --> 00:37:34,941 and even a factory with multiple clones of the rapper 854 00:37:34,941 --> 00:37:35,782 are produced. 855 00:37:35,782 --> 00:37:36,809 (hip-hop music) 856 00:37:36,809 --> 00:37:39,923 ♪ Will the real Slim Shady please stand up ♪ 857 00:37:39,923 --> 00:37:41,381 - We're gonna have a problem here, 858 00:37:41,381 --> 00:37:43,486 ♪ Y'all act like you never seen a white person before ♪ 859 00:37:43,486 --> 00:37:44,871 ♪ Jaws all on the floor like Pam, ♪ 860 00:37:44,871 --> 00:37:46,203 ♪ Like Tommy just burst in the door ♪ 861 00:37:46,203 --> 00:37:47,955 ♪ And started whoopin' her ass worse than before ♪ 862 00:37:47,955 --> 00:37:50,362 ♪ They first were divorced, throwin' her over furniture ♪ 863 00:37:50,362 --> 00:37:52,994 ♪ It's the return of the, oh, wait, no way, you're kidding ♪ 864 00:37:52,994 --> 00:37:55,383 ♪ He didn't just say what I think he did, did he ♪ 865 00:37:55,383 --> 00:37:57,863 ♪ And Dr. Dre said, nothing you idiots ♪ 866 00:37:57,863 --> 00:38:00,063 ♪ Dr. Dre's dead, he's locked in my basement ♪ 867 00:38:00,063 --> 00:38:01,630 ♪ Feminist women love Eminem ♪ 868 00:38:01,630 --> 00:38:03,974 ♪ Chicka-chicka-chicka Slim Shady, I'm sick of him ♪ 869 00:38:03,974 --> 00:38:06,529 ♪ Look at him, walkin' around, grabbin' his you-know-what ♪ 870 00:38:06,529 --> 00:38:08,401 - It's called "The Real Slim Shady". 871 00:38:08,401 --> 00:38:11,369 It's basically the chorus of scene 872 00:38:11,369 --> 00:38:13,138 with the real slim shady, please stand up. 873 00:38:13,138 --> 00:38:14,901 And basically, what the whole song, 874 00:38:14,901 --> 00:38:18,553 the concept of the whole song was about was, you know, 875 00:38:18,553 --> 00:38:21,384 trying to say that there's a slim shady in all of us, 876 00:38:21,384 --> 00:38:23,036 everybody has a shady side to 'em. 877 00:38:23,036 --> 00:38:25,799 So in the video I'm telling, I'm asking, 878 00:38:25,799 --> 00:38:27,688 will the real slim shady please stand up? 879 00:38:27,688 --> 00:38:29,017 And everybody's standing up in the video 880 00:38:29,017 --> 00:38:31,757 because everybody's got a Slim Shady in them. 881 00:38:31,757 --> 00:38:33,227 I said that a long time ago 882 00:38:33,227 --> 00:38:35,128 when I came out with my first album, 883 00:38:35,128 --> 00:38:36,882 I feel like everybody has a shady side to 'em 884 00:38:36,882 --> 00:38:41,411 and a side to 'em where they can be an asshole, you know. 885 00:38:41,411 --> 00:38:43,382 And Slim Shady is that asshole inside of me 886 00:38:43,382 --> 00:38:44,770 that comes out an awful lot. 887 00:38:44,770 --> 00:38:49,316 - "Marshall Mathers" came in at 1.76 million in a week. 888 00:38:49,316 --> 00:38:51,992 I mean, those are like astronomical figures. 889 00:38:51,992 --> 00:38:56,228 And if anyone had any doubt as to his star power 890 00:38:56,228 --> 00:38:59,560 or where Eminem could potentially go as an artist, 891 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,116 "The Marshall Mathers LP" kind of cemented the fact 892 00:39:02,116 --> 00:39:03,262 that he's here to stay. 893 00:39:03,262 --> 00:39:04,987 (soft hip-hop music) 894 00:39:04,987 --> 00:39:05,940 - [Narrator] At this point, 895 00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:09,031 Eminem has released two groundbreaking albums. 896 00:39:09,031 --> 00:39:12,609 And along with the success came an onslaught of criticism. 897 00:39:12,609 --> 00:39:15,692 (soft hip-hop music) 898 00:39:17,687 --> 00:39:20,380 - And you know, the obvious problem 899 00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:21,618 with "Marshal Mathers LP" 900 00:39:21,618 --> 00:39:25,548 is that it had some very controversial things to say 901 00:39:25,548 --> 00:39:27,428 about the homosexual community. 902 00:39:27,428 --> 00:39:29,509 - He was courting a lot of controversy. 903 00:39:29,509 --> 00:39:32,709 People were, you know, claiming that he was homophobic, 904 00:39:32,709 --> 00:39:36,804 that his lyrics were misogynistic, you know, 905 00:39:36,804 --> 00:39:41,442 that he was really like a blight on music, on pop music. 906 00:39:41,442 --> 00:39:44,718 And to sort of combat all that negativity, 907 00:39:44,718 --> 00:39:47,470 he did what people really just did not expect, 908 00:39:47,470 --> 00:39:50,612 which is he performed with Elton John on the Grammys. 909 00:39:50,612 --> 00:39:53,695 (soft hip-hop music) 910 00:39:56,003 --> 00:39:57,921 Now, he'd been like a Grammy favorite 911 00:39:57,921 --> 00:39:58,990 for a few years now. 912 00:39:58,990 --> 00:40:00,696 He's always up for Best Rap Album. 913 00:40:00,696 --> 00:40:02,478 He won almost every time. 914 00:40:02,478 --> 00:40:06,145 And this was like his official sort of entry 915 00:40:07,657 --> 00:40:09,672 to mainstream music world. 916 00:40:09,672 --> 00:40:11,489 And at the end of the performance, 917 00:40:11,489 --> 00:40:16,489 which was, you know, Stan and had Elton John on the piano, 918 00:40:16,531 --> 00:40:20,284 they hugged and it was written that it was the hug felt 919 00:40:20,284 --> 00:40:21,355 around the world, you know. 920 00:40:21,355 --> 00:40:24,272 It was such a huge moment for music 921 00:40:26,005 --> 00:40:27,107 because it brought together 922 00:40:27,107 --> 00:40:30,364 these two completely disparate worlds. 923 00:40:30,364 --> 00:40:32,835 - [Narrator] 2002 would proved to be another memorable year 924 00:40:32,835 --> 00:40:33,839 for Eminem. 925 00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:37,144 He released his third major album, "The Eminem Show", 926 00:40:37,144 --> 00:40:41,526 and it soon became another multi-platinum release. 927 00:40:41,526 --> 00:40:43,971 - "The Eminem Show" show was another huge blockbuster 928 00:40:43,971 --> 00:40:47,789 for Eminem, and it sort of got even further away 929 00:40:47,789 --> 00:40:51,242 from the traditional hip-hop roots that he had. 930 00:40:51,242 --> 00:40:54,117 - You know, Eminem had been pretty steadily releasing albums 931 00:40:54,117 --> 00:40:56,705 every 18 months, two years, 932 00:40:56,705 --> 00:40:59,366 and it was like every single one was bigger than the last. 933 00:40:59,366 --> 00:41:02,093 And "The Eminem Show" was just another example 934 00:41:02,093 --> 00:41:05,904 of how much of a force he was in music at the time. 935 00:41:05,904 --> 00:41:08,163 It was the bestselling album of 2002. 936 00:41:08,163 --> 00:41:09,694 Nothing even came close. 937 00:41:09,694 --> 00:41:11,419 - [Ben] "Without Me" was another one 938 00:41:11,419 --> 00:41:13,242 of Eminem's kind of lead off, 939 00:41:13,242 --> 00:41:16,052 jokey, pop culture referencing singles. 940 00:41:16,052 --> 00:41:18,980 And it was also a really successful, 941 00:41:18,980 --> 00:41:22,500 and it sort of picked its targets to make fun of, 942 00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:25,466 and it had another really infectious, 943 00:41:25,466 --> 00:41:27,425 bouncy pop, mainstream beat 944 00:41:27,425 --> 00:41:30,736 and it sort of set the tone for "The Eminem Show". 945 00:41:30,736 --> 00:41:33,153 - There's line in the song that that makes perfect sense, 946 00:41:33,153 --> 00:41:34,893 which is guess who's back, you know? 947 00:41:34,893 --> 00:41:39,893 It's like all he had to do was at this time just come back 948 00:41:39,947 --> 00:41:41,947 and do what he does best 949 00:41:42,893 --> 00:41:45,478 without having to change up the formula too much, you know. 950 00:41:45,478 --> 00:41:46,925 He didn't have to diverge. 951 00:41:46,925 --> 00:41:47,813 He didn't have to wow. 952 00:41:47,813 --> 00:41:49,244 He didn't have to even show 953 00:41:49,244 --> 00:41:51,048 that there was so much of an evolution. 954 00:41:51,048 --> 00:41:55,138 At the time, it was like people wanted that Eminem, 955 00:41:55,138 --> 00:41:58,160 the Marshall Mathers Eminem, "The Eminem Show" Eminem. 956 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,801 He was giving people what they want with this album, 957 00:42:00,801 --> 00:42:02,795 which I think is why it sold so well. 958 00:42:02,795 --> 00:42:04,340 (hip-hop music) 959 00:42:04,340 --> 00:42:05,583 - [Narrator] That same year, 960 00:42:05,583 --> 00:42:08,576 Eminem would transfer his skills to the big screen. 961 00:42:08,576 --> 00:42:09,990 He starred in a Motion Picture 962 00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:12,571 that was loosely based on his own life. 963 00:42:12,571 --> 00:42:17,571 And it was an incredible acting debut for the rap superstar. 964 00:42:18,705 --> 00:42:20,100 - We were talking about doing a movie 965 00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:23,921 about, you know, based on my life or whatever, 966 00:42:23,921 --> 00:42:25,208 you know, something like that. 967 00:42:25,208 --> 00:42:29,125 - In that movie, you see Eminem no holds barred 968 00:42:29,961 --> 00:42:32,909 expressing his feelings, his emotions 969 00:42:32,909 --> 00:42:35,153 in a world where so many celebrities 970 00:42:35,153 --> 00:42:37,685 try to whitewash themselves, 971 00:42:37,685 --> 00:42:40,795 they try to project an image to the world 972 00:42:40,795 --> 00:42:44,534 of something that's kind of all America and all apple pie, 973 00:42:44,534 --> 00:42:45,898 all sweetness and light. 974 00:42:45,898 --> 00:42:48,735 This was a guy who stripped his life to the bone 975 00:42:48,735 --> 00:42:51,563 and said to the world, this is who I am, deal with it. 976 00:42:51,563 --> 00:42:52,619 He did it in his music. 977 00:42:52,619 --> 00:42:56,640 And in "8 Mile" he showed not just his skill as an actor, 978 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,030 but his ability as an actor to get the guts 979 00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:03,578 of his personality out and to express it on screen 980 00:43:03,578 --> 00:43:05,564 in a performance that any actor 981 00:43:05,564 --> 00:43:07,915 would've been proud to call their own. 982 00:43:07,915 --> 00:43:10,577 - I think what he did was prove 983 00:43:10,577 --> 00:43:13,792 that he couldn't be put in a box, you know. 984 00:43:13,792 --> 00:43:16,242 As much as we could say, like, oh, well, Eminem does this 985 00:43:16,242 --> 00:43:18,181 and he does it really well and he's funny 986 00:43:18,181 --> 00:43:20,042 and he's, you know, witty 987 00:43:20,042 --> 00:43:23,256 and, you know, he gets the concept of music videos 988 00:43:23,256 --> 00:43:24,763 and he really draws people in. 989 00:43:24,763 --> 00:43:26,339 Well, this was another side of him 990 00:43:26,339 --> 00:43:28,735 that was much more nuanced, 991 00:43:28,735 --> 00:43:32,252 that took talent that people didn't realize he had. 992 00:43:32,252 --> 00:43:35,439 It was just an amazing experience, I think, for Eminem 993 00:43:35,439 --> 00:43:37,554 and for the viewers and for people at home 994 00:43:37,554 --> 00:43:40,508 who didn't have an appreciation of all that he could do. 995 00:43:40,508 --> 00:43:43,037 "8 Mile" really, really stepped it up. 996 00:43:43,037 --> 00:43:44,073 - [Narrator] The film was accompanied 997 00:43:44,073 --> 00:43:46,784 by an award-winning soundtrack, 998 00:43:46,784 --> 00:43:49,348 which contained the single that seen by many 999 00:43:49,348 --> 00:43:51,365 as the quintessential Eminem song. 1000 00:43:51,365 --> 00:43:54,696 - The enduring legacy of "8 Mile" 1001 00:43:54,696 --> 00:43:56,215 might be the song "Lose Yourself", 1002 00:43:56,215 --> 00:44:00,558 which ended up being the first rap song to win an Oscar. 1003 00:44:00,558 --> 00:44:02,584 - [Narrator] The music video was filmed in Detroit 1004 00:44:02,584 --> 00:44:05,195 and contains many scenes from the movie. 1005 00:44:05,195 --> 00:44:07,132 It also features Eminem rapping next 1006 00:44:07,132 --> 00:44:11,143 to the 8 Mile Mobile Court sign that appears in the movie 1007 00:44:11,143 --> 00:44:13,415 and also on the cover of the movie soundtrack. 1008 00:44:13,415 --> 00:44:14,248 (hip-hop music) 1009 00:44:14,248 --> 00:44:15,081 - Yow. 1010 00:44:15,081 --> 00:44:17,732 ♪ His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy ♪ 1011 00:44:17,732 --> 00:44:20,580 ♪ There's vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti ♪ 1012 00:44:20,580 --> 00:44:23,517 ♪ He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready ♪ 1013 00:44:23,517 --> 00:44:26,077 ♪ To drop bombs, but he keeps on forgettin' ♪ 1014 00:44:26,077 --> 00:44:29,016 ♪ What he wrote down, the whole crowd goes so loud ♪ 1015 00:44:29,016 --> 00:44:31,645 ♪ He opens his mouth, but the words won't come out ♪ 1016 00:44:31,645 --> 00:44:34,642 ♪ He's chokin', how, everybody's jokin' now ♪ 1017 00:44:34,642 --> 00:44:37,502 ♪ The clocks run out, times up, over, blaow ♪ 1018 00:44:37,502 --> 00:44:40,504 ♪ Snap back to reality, ope there goes gravity ♪ 1019 00:44:40,504 --> 00:44:42,264 ♪ Ope, there goes Rabbit, he choked ♪ 1020 00:44:42,264 --> 00:44:43,212 ♪ He's so mad ♪ 1021 00:44:43,212 --> 00:44:46,990 - And in any case, "8 Mile" really helped bring Eminem 1022 00:44:46,990 --> 00:44:48,499 to an even wider audience 1023 00:44:48,499 --> 00:44:51,406 because the film was seen by lots of people 1024 00:44:51,406 --> 00:44:53,518 who don't necessarily listen to rap music, 1025 00:44:53,518 --> 00:44:56,583 but they got a chance to get inside his story 1026 00:44:56,583 --> 00:44:59,208 and to learn what he was all about. 1027 00:44:59,208 --> 00:45:04,208 And it pretty much made him bigger than he ever was. 1028 00:45:04,297 --> 00:45:06,284 - [Narrator] After "8 Mile" had grossed millions 1029 00:45:06,284 --> 00:45:09,164 at the box office, Eminem was back in the studio 1030 00:45:09,164 --> 00:45:12,241 recording his fourth major studio album. 1031 00:45:12,241 --> 00:45:15,260 "Encore" was released in 2004. 1032 00:45:15,260 --> 00:45:18,671 The album proved to be Eminem's least popular to date 1033 00:45:18,671 --> 00:45:21,279 with fans and critics noting the subpar quality 1034 00:45:21,279 --> 00:45:25,046 of the lyrics compared to previous Eminem albums. 1035 00:45:25,046 --> 00:45:26,698 - You know, the question that was left unanswered 1036 00:45:26,698 --> 00:45:28,586 by "The Eminem Show" and even the "8 Mile" 1037 00:45:28,586 --> 00:45:29,608 to a large extent 1038 00:45:29,608 --> 00:45:33,802 was where was Eminem, the rapper, going to take things? 1039 00:45:33,802 --> 00:45:36,683 And "Encore" is, I guess, where people found out, you know. 1040 00:45:36,683 --> 00:45:39,095 "Encore" was the first record Eminem made 1041 00:45:39,095 --> 00:45:42,032 that didn't explicitly say who it was 1042 00:45:42,032 --> 00:45:43,397 from the perspective of. 1043 00:45:43,397 --> 00:45:45,446 - It started to feel like Eminem 1044 00:45:45,446 --> 00:45:47,582 was a caricature of himself. 1045 00:45:47,582 --> 00:45:50,665 You know, it was becoming repetitive. 1046 00:45:51,989 --> 00:45:53,887 It didn't seem novel anymore. 1047 00:45:53,887 --> 00:45:56,149 And his rhymes were really simplistic. 1048 00:45:56,149 --> 00:46:00,546 That was a big criticism that a lot of music reviewers had. 1049 00:46:00,546 --> 00:46:03,162 So it's not like it's a terrible album 1050 00:46:03,162 --> 00:46:04,521 or the songs weren't that good, 1051 00:46:04,521 --> 00:46:08,341 it just felt a little bit like a parody, like a cliche. 1052 00:46:08,341 --> 00:46:11,783 And Eminem, who was always so ahead of the curve, 1053 00:46:11,783 --> 00:46:14,571 and so like out of left field and forward thinking 1054 00:46:14,571 --> 00:46:17,320 and trailblazer in so many ways, 1055 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,442 this felt like he was following himself. 1056 00:46:19,442 --> 00:46:22,070 - You know, the first single Eminem released from that album 1057 00:46:22,070 --> 00:46:23,600 was "Just Lose It". 1058 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,775 This one made a light of Michael Jackson's problems, 1059 00:46:26,775 --> 00:46:30,044 you know, with, you know, child molestation, legal troubles, 1060 00:46:30,044 --> 00:46:31,227 his health. 1061 00:46:31,227 --> 00:46:35,461 And that was oddly enough the one time where people said 1062 00:46:35,461 --> 00:46:37,665 maybe Eminem went a little too far, 1063 00:46:37,665 --> 00:46:39,448 maybe not even in terms of controversy, 1064 00:46:39,448 --> 00:46:41,570 but just being in poor taste. 1065 00:46:41,570 --> 00:46:43,916 - The way it made fun of his, you know, alleged pedophilia 1066 00:46:43,916 --> 00:46:45,184 and all that. 1067 00:46:45,184 --> 00:46:48,155 And "Encore" is also known for the song "Mosh", 1068 00:46:48,155 --> 00:46:50,038 which got really political. 1069 00:46:50,038 --> 00:46:54,069 It was at the time when John Kerry was facing George Bush 1070 00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:55,355 in the presidential election, 1071 00:46:55,355 --> 00:46:58,427 and it took a strong stance against Bush, 1072 00:46:58,427 --> 00:47:01,374 and encouraged his fans to vote. 1073 00:47:01,374 --> 00:47:03,508 And these were people that might not necessarily 1074 00:47:03,508 --> 00:47:08,416 have been political, but, you know, John Kerry lost, 1075 00:47:08,416 --> 00:47:09,450 the album didn't sell 1076 00:47:09,450 --> 00:47:12,060 as well as Eminem's albums traditionally do. 1077 00:47:12,060 --> 00:47:15,459 And more than anything, it was seen as creatively, 1078 00:47:15,459 --> 00:47:18,115 not quite up to par with his other stuff. 1079 00:47:18,115 --> 00:47:21,365 And he subsequently took a long hiatus. 1080 00:47:23,108 --> 00:47:26,296 - [Narrator] In 2005, many industry insiders started 1081 00:47:26,296 --> 00:47:29,486 to speculate that Eminem was considering ending 1082 00:47:29,486 --> 00:47:31,868 his rap career after six years 1083 00:47:31,868 --> 00:47:34,591 and several multi-platinum albums. 1084 00:47:34,591 --> 00:47:35,986 - Because when "Encore" came out 1085 00:47:35,986 --> 00:47:37,651 and it wasn't received so well 1086 00:47:37,651 --> 00:47:41,032 and it felt like almost like recycled music, 1087 00:47:41,032 --> 00:47:44,353 I think Eminem maybe realized that he needed to step back 1088 00:47:44,353 --> 00:47:46,192 and he needed to take some time off. 1089 00:47:46,192 --> 00:47:49,640 At the same time, he was also struggling with addiction. 1090 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,882 - As you would expect, 1091 00:47:51,882 --> 00:47:53,544 not just for somebody in Eminem's world 1092 00:47:53,544 --> 00:47:57,660 but for somebody with Eminem's personal history, 1093 00:47:57,660 --> 00:47:59,605 that at some point along the line, 1094 00:47:59,605 --> 00:48:03,116 addiction to something would come into it. 1095 00:48:03,116 --> 00:48:05,613 Alcohol was present. 1096 00:48:05,613 --> 00:48:09,915 Allegedly, all sorts of illegal drugs were present. 1097 00:48:09,915 --> 00:48:13,051 And most famously, prescription drugs were present. 1098 00:48:13,051 --> 00:48:15,187 But what's important to remember 1099 00:48:15,187 --> 00:48:19,398 is that most addictions start from feelings of abandonment, 1100 00:48:19,398 --> 00:48:21,859 feelings of rage, feelings of shame, 1101 00:48:21,859 --> 00:48:24,004 and that's the root of those addictions. 1102 00:48:24,004 --> 00:48:27,536 The particular ways that those addictions find expression, 1103 00:48:27,536 --> 00:48:30,372 the particular drug of choice, if you want, 1104 00:48:30,372 --> 00:48:32,641 well, that's just down to chance 1105 00:48:32,641 --> 00:48:34,492 and circumstance most of the time. 1106 00:48:34,492 --> 00:48:36,425 And with him, he chose prescription drugs, 1107 00:48:36,425 --> 00:48:38,277 but it could just as easily have been anything else. 1108 00:48:38,277 --> 00:48:39,787 - [Shirley] And he was having trouble sleeping 1109 00:48:39,787 --> 00:48:41,843 and he was having trouble functioning. 1110 00:48:41,843 --> 00:48:44,281 He actually had to cancel an entire European tour 1111 00:48:44,281 --> 00:48:47,624 during this hiatus between 2005 and 2008. 1112 00:48:47,624 --> 00:48:50,625 - He said that he was at a really low personal point. 1113 00:48:50,625 --> 00:48:52,462 There were a lot of things going on in his personal life 1114 00:48:52,462 --> 00:48:54,430 that he didn't really talk about. 1115 00:48:54,430 --> 00:48:56,680 He remarried his wife, Kim, 1116 00:48:58,223 --> 00:49:00,918 and then divorced her within a year. 1117 00:49:00,918 --> 00:49:04,888 And he also saw the death of his best friend, Proof. 1118 00:49:04,888 --> 00:49:08,767 And that had this huge impact on him as as well. 1119 00:49:08,767 --> 00:49:12,299 And kind of coming out of drug addiction 1120 00:49:12,299 --> 00:49:13,486 made it even harder. 1121 00:49:13,486 --> 00:49:17,056 - But I think it was a time to sort of reassess his life, 1122 00:49:17,056 --> 00:49:19,421 where he'd come and where he could go. 1123 00:49:19,421 --> 00:49:21,941 And I also think it was a very important time for family. 1124 00:49:21,941 --> 00:49:25,624 - So he went to rehab, he sobered up. 1125 00:49:25,624 --> 00:49:28,711 And the way he describes it is that he poured all his energy 1126 00:49:28,711 --> 00:49:32,134 into hip-hop and rapping became his new drug 1127 00:49:32,134 --> 00:49:33,907 and helped him get through it. 1128 00:49:33,907 --> 00:49:36,732 - And I think that maybe he had to reconcile a little bit 1129 00:49:36,732 --> 00:49:39,521 of where he came from and where he was, you know, 1130 00:49:39,521 --> 00:49:40,354 at the moment. 1131 00:49:40,354 --> 00:49:42,306 But I will give him props. 1132 00:49:42,306 --> 00:49:44,998 You know, Eminem could have moved to LA. 1133 00:49:44,998 --> 00:49:46,753 He could have just like, you know, been hanging out 1134 00:49:46,753 --> 00:49:49,601 with Dre every day, but he stayed in Michigan, 1135 00:49:49,601 --> 00:49:51,271 which I think was really important 1136 00:49:51,271 --> 00:49:53,078 to sort of keep him grounded, 1137 00:49:53,078 --> 00:49:57,903 but literally keep him grounded 'cause he was flying high 1138 00:49:57,903 --> 00:49:59,832 between, you know, the boasting 1139 00:49:59,832 --> 00:50:03,255 and the people kissing your ass and the drug addiction. 1140 00:50:03,255 --> 00:50:06,767 You know, he was living in a reality that wasn't real. 1141 00:50:06,767 --> 00:50:10,118 So I think that that's what that three year hiatus 1142 00:50:10,118 --> 00:50:10,951 really did. 1143 00:50:10,951 --> 00:50:13,706 I think it sobered him up in every way. 1144 00:50:13,706 --> 00:50:16,373 (upbeat music) 1145 00:50:21,902 --> 00:50:25,326 - [Narrator] In 2007, Eminem purchased the Effigy Studio 1146 00:50:25,326 --> 00:50:28,221 in Michigan and started the initial recording process 1147 00:50:28,221 --> 00:50:31,107 of his next album, "Relapse". 1148 00:50:31,107 --> 00:50:34,538 Once again, Eminem worked alongside Dr. Dre. 1149 00:50:34,538 --> 00:50:36,680 And after two years of Studio time, 1150 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,938 the album was ready for release in 2009. 1151 00:50:39,938 --> 00:50:43,854 - You know, 2009 was the first legitimate Eminem record 1152 00:50:43,854 --> 00:50:47,301 we heard since, you know, "Encore". 1153 00:50:47,301 --> 00:50:51,301 And it was a kind of shocking to hear, you know, 1154 00:50:52,264 --> 00:50:53,994 where Eminem was at that point, 1155 00:50:53,994 --> 00:50:57,778 because his hiatus was really shutted in mystery, you know. 1156 00:50:57,778 --> 00:51:00,495 Obviously, rumors spread about drug addiction 1157 00:51:00,495 --> 00:51:02,219 and lord knows what else. 1158 00:51:02,219 --> 00:51:04,837 And "Relapse" was an album that just went ahead 1159 00:51:04,837 --> 00:51:07,978 and took that stuff, you know, head first. 1160 00:51:07,978 --> 00:51:10,607 It was, you know, arguably more shocking 1161 00:51:10,607 --> 00:51:14,438 than anything he did on "The Slim Shady LP" 10 years prior, 1162 00:51:14,438 --> 00:51:18,739 because the world had changed a lot, you know, in 2009. 1163 00:51:18,739 --> 00:51:21,762 People would become a lot more desensitized shock, you know, 1164 00:51:21,762 --> 00:51:24,860 the shock tactics and, you know, hip-hop pushing boundaries. 1165 00:51:24,860 --> 00:51:27,633 And I mean "Relapse", you know, show 1166 00:51:27,633 --> 00:51:29,373 he was, you know, taking pills 1167 00:51:29,373 --> 00:51:32,224 like, you know, once again killing people on record. 1168 00:51:32,224 --> 00:51:35,689 Christopher Reeve again, you know, going at Mariah Carey, 1169 00:51:35,689 --> 00:51:37,439 going at Nick Cannon. 1170 00:51:38,609 --> 00:51:39,845 Whether it's up for debate, 1171 00:51:39,845 --> 00:51:43,256 whether it was as good as his earlier work, 1172 00:51:43,256 --> 00:51:45,858 nonetheless, you know, the public, you know, welcomed him 1173 00:51:45,858 --> 00:51:46,719 with open arms. 1174 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,137 It's all incredibly well. 1175 00:51:49,137 --> 00:51:50,713 Mixed reviews I'd say. 1176 00:51:50,713 --> 00:51:53,338 But nonetheless, you know, people were happy 1177 00:51:53,338 --> 00:51:56,380 to hear Eminem doing that kind of Slim Shady sort of thing 1178 00:51:56,380 --> 00:51:59,513 instead of, you know, the kind of stone sober 1179 00:51:59,513 --> 00:52:00,608 like political stuff 1180 00:52:00,608 --> 00:52:02,814 that he was kinda hinting towards on "Encore". 1181 00:52:02,814 --> 00:52:05,219 - [Narrator] "Relapse" was considered a successful comeback 1182 00:52:05,219 --> 00:52:07,281 for Eminem, but it wasn't until the release 1183 00:52:07,281 --> 00:52:10,579 of his next album, "Recovery", that fans and critics 1184 00:52:10,579 --> 00:52:13,524 saw Eminem back to his free flowing best. 1185 00:52:13,524 --> 00:52:17,677 - And in fact, "Recovery" was the bestselling album of 2010 1186 00:52:17,677 --> 00:52:18,760 in any genre. 1187 00:52:19,628 --> 00:52:22,731 And it really resonated with people 1188 00:52:22,731 --> 00:52:25,139 because I think Eminem did what he does well 1189 00:52:25,139 --> 00:52:27,203 and it was speaking from the heart 1190 00:52:27,203 --> 00:52:30,646 and sort of talking about where he really was in his life 1191 00:52:30,646 --> 00:52:33,814 at that moment and not trying to put on airs 1192 00:52:33,814 --> 00:52:35,938 or try to be something that he wasn't. 1193 00:52:35,938 --> 00:52:39,097 - "Not Afraid", it's a recovery song 1194 00:52:39,097 --> 00:52:40,451 like more than anything. 1195 00:52:40,451 --> 00:52:42,726 It's the call of somebody 1196 00:52:42,726 --> 00:52:45,590 who has just survived substance abuse 1197 00:52:45,590 --> 00:52:48,888 and probably could have died or may have killed himself, 1198 00:52:48,888 --> 00:52:52,457 and "Not Afraid" is about tackling all those things. 1199 00:52:52,457 --> 00:52:56,790 It's about facing it head on and getting through it. 1200 00:52:57,650 --> 00:52:59,773 ♪ You can try and read my lyrics off of this paper ♪ 1201 00:52:59,773 --> 00:53:00,962 ♪ Before I lay 'em ♪ 1202 00:53:00,962 --> 00:53:02,643 ♪ But you won't take the sting out these words ♪ 1203 00:53:02,643 --> 00:53:03,740 ♪ Before I say 'em ♪ 1204 00:53:03,740 --> 00:53:05,328 ♪ 'Cause ain't no way I'ma let you stop me ♪ 1205 00:53:05,328 --> 00:53:06,304 ♪ From causin' mayhem ♪ 1206 00:53:06,304 --> 00:53:08,210 ♪ When I say I'm a do somethin', I do it ♪ 1207 00:53:08,210 --> 00:53:10,087 ♪ I don't give a damn what you think ♪ 1208 00:53:10,087 --> 00:53:12,451 ♪ I'm doin' this for me, so fuck the world, feed it beans ♪ 1209 00:53:12,451 --> 00:53:14,775 ♪ It's gassed up, if it thinks it's stoppin' me ♪ 1210 00:53:14,775 --> 00:53:17,748 ♪ I'ma be what I set out to be, without a doubt, undoubtedly ♪ 1211 00:53:17,748 --> 00:53:19,053 ♪ And all those who look down on me ♪ 1212 00:53:19,053 --> 00:53:20,632 ♪ I'm tearin' down your balcony ♪ 1213 00:53:20,632 --> 00:53:21,535 ♪ No if, ands or buts ♪ 1214 00:53:21,535 --> 00:53:23,324 ♪ Don't try to ask him why or how can he ♪ 1215 00:53:23,324 --> 00:53:25,613 ♪ From "Infinite" down to the last "Relapse" album ♪ 1216 00:53:25,613 --> 00:53:26,551 ♪ He's still shittin' ♪ 1217 00:53:26,551 --> 00:53:27,581 ♪ Whether he's on salary ♪ 1218 00:53:27,581 --> 00:53:29,719 - The video was really powerful too 1219 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,515 because it didn't rely on gimmicks. 1220 00:53:32,515 --> 00:53:35,247 It was just Eminem singing, 1221 00:53:35,247 --> 00:53:38,070 not even rapping so much, singing, you know. 1222 00:53:38,070 --> 00:53:43,070 Something that felt so true and so honest and so vulnerable. 1223 00:53:43,598 --> 00:53:46,692 That's how I see "Not Afraid" as a very like vulnerable 1224 00:53:46,692 --> 00:53:48,254 but at the same time strong song. 1225 00:53:48,254 --> 00:53:52,505 - "Love the Way You Lie", it was kind of a bold move 1226 00:53:52,505 --> 00:53:55,541 because Rihanna was on that song as well 1227 00:53:55,541 --> 00:53:57,683 and Rihanna had gone through her her own thing 1228 00:53:57,683 --> 00:53:59,981 with a very abusive relationship. 1229 00:53:59,981 --> 00:54:01,404 You know, you could kinda see the parallels 1230 00:54:01,404 --> 00:54:02,931 between Rihanna and Chris Brown 1231 00:54:02,931 --> 00:54:06,606 as well as Eminem and Kim Mathers, you know. 1232 00:54:06,606 --> 00:54:11,418 Both very high profile, lots of violence, you know, 1233 00:54:11,418 --> 00:54:13,034 lots of dirty laundry being aired. 1234 00:54:13,034 --> 00:54:14,990 And I guess by coming together, 1235 00:54:14,990 --> 00:54:17,280 those two kinda showed a little bit of kinship. 1236 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,113 ♪ Who's that dude ♪ 1237 00:54:18,113 --> 00:54:19,385 ♪ I don't even know his name. ♪ 1238 00:54:19,385 --> 00:54:20,694 ♪ I laid hands on her ♪ 1239 00:54:20,694 --> 00:54:22,225 ♪ I'll never stoop so low again ♪ 1240 00:54:22,225 --> 00:54:23,900 ♪ I guess I don't know my own strength ♪ 1241 00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:28,900 ♪ Just gonna stand there and watch me burn ♪ 1242 00:54:28,961 --> 00:54:33,961 ♪ Well, that's alright, because I like the way it hurts ♪ 1243 00:54:34,784 --> 00:54:39,784 ♪ Just gonna stand there and hear me cry? ♪ 1244 00:54:39,893 --> 00:54:44,893 ♪ Well, that's alright, because I love the way you lie ♪ 1245 00:54:45,457 --> 00:54:47,417 ♪ I love the way you lie ♪ 1246 00:54:47,417 --> 00:54:51,074 - The video for "Love The Way You Lie" features Megan Fox 1247 00:54:51,074 --> 00:54:55,768 and a lot of people thought that it was a very realistic, 1248 00:54:55,768 --> 00:54:59,543 almost film cinematic quality to it. 1249 00:54:59,543 --> 00:55:01,763 And it features a young couple 1250 00:55:01,763 --> 00:55:04,113 who are in this really abusive relationship, 1251 00:55:04,113 --> 00:55:06,381 but they clearly love each other 1252 00:55:06,381 --> 00:55:08,863 and it ends with the house going up in flames, 1253 00:55:08,863 --> 00:55:12,169 and people thought it was an artistic step forward 1254 00:55:12,169 --> 00:55:13,134 for Eminem. 1255 00:55:13,134 --> 00:55:15,669 - [Narrator] With "Recovery", Eminem achieved the record 1256 00:55:15,669 --> 00:55:19,738 for most successive US number one albums by a solo artist. 1257 00:55:19,738 --> 00:55:21,501 It was an incredible feat 1258 00:55:21,501 --> 00:55:25,403 and proved that his troubled times were behind him. 1259 00:55:25,403 --> 00:55:28,169 He was once again ready to regain his tag 1260 00:55:28,169 --> 00:55:30,086 as the King of Hip-Hop. 1261 00:55:38,381 --> 00:55:39,881 On May 24th, 2012, 1262 00:55:40,718 --> 00:55:44,496 Eminem revealed that he'd begun working on his next album. 1263 00:55:44,496 --> 00:55:48,042 Shady Records' president, Paul Rosenberg, told Billboard 1264 00:55:48,042 --> 00:55:50,190 that Eminem's eighth studio album 1265 00:55:50,190 --> 00:55:53,871 would be released after Memorial Day 2013. 1266 00:55:53,871 --> 00:55:57,071 Rumors were circulating regarding the name of the new album. 1267 00:55:57,071 --> 00:56:00,590 And in mid-2013, it was announced that the album 1268 00:56:00,590 --> 00:56:04,257 would be titled "The Marshall Mathers LP 2". 1269 00:56:05,176 --> 00:56:08,164 The album was already one of the most anticipated albums 1270 00:56:08,164 --> 00:56:10,759 of the year, but when the title was released, 1271 00:56:10,759 --> 00:56:14,068 the anticipation grew even further. 1272 00:56:14,068 --> 00:56:16,855 The lead single from the album was titled "Berzerk" 1273 00:56:16,855 --> 00:56:20,580 and was released on August 27th, 2013. 1274 00:56:20,580 --> 00:56:23,306 The music video was filmed in Brooklyn, New York. 1275 00:56:23,306 --> 00:56:26,342 It features cameo appearances by fellow rappers, 1276 00:56:26,342 --> 00:56:29,372 Kendrick Lamar and Kid Rock. 1277 00:56:29,372 --> 00:56:31,561 The video also features Eminem rapping 1278 00:56:31,561 --> 00:56:33,807 in front of a huge cassette tape player, 1279 00:56:33,807 --> 00:56:36,688 as well as short clips of the official music video 1280 00:56:36,688 --> 00:56:38,658 of Billy Squier's "The Stroke", 1281 00:56:38,658 --> 00:56:41,741 which is heavily sampled in the song. 1282 00:56:42,682 --> 00:56:45,040 (static buzzing) 1283 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,326 ♪ Now this shit's about to kick off, this party looks wack ♪ 1284 00:56:47,326 --> 00:56:48,866 ♪ Let's take it back to straight hip-hop ♪ 1285 00:56:48,866 --> 00:56:50,099 ♪ And start it from scratch ♪ 1286 00:56:50,099 --> 00:56:52,560 ♪ I'm 'bout to bloody this track up, everybody get back ♪ 1287 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,585 ♪ That's why my pen needs a pad 'cause my rhymes on the rag ♪ 1288 00:56:55,585 --> 00:56:58,137 ♪ Just like I did with addiction I'm 'bout to kick it ♪ 1289 00:56:58,137 --> 00:57:00,698 ♪ Like a magician, critics I turn to crickets ♪ 1290 00:57:00,698 --> 00:57:03,212 ♪ Got 'em still on the fence whether to pick it ♪ 1291 00:57:03,212 --> 00:57:05,574 ♪ But quick to get impaled when I tell 'em, stick it ♪ 1292 00:57:05,574 --> 00:57:08,258 ♪ So sick, I'm looking pale, well that's my pigment ♪ 1293 00:57:08,258 --> 00:57:10,860 ♪ 'Bout to go ham, ya bish, shout out to Kendrick ♪ 1294 00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:12,572 ♪ Let's bring it back ♪ 1295 00:57:12,572 --> 00:57:14,900 The album received generally positive reviews 1296 00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:16,859 from music critics with praise 1297 00:57:16,859 --> 00:57:19,330 going to Eminem's technical rapping skills 1298 00:57:19,330 --> 00:57:21,745 and production choices. 1299 00:57:21,745 --> 00:57:25,221 It debuted at number one on the US Billboard 200 1300 00:57:25,221 --> 00:57:29,014 and had the second highest album sales of 2013. 1301 00:57:29,014 --> 00:57:32,447 That year, Eminem also went on to win Artist of the Year 1302 00:57:32,447 --> 00:57:33,925 at the YouTube Awards. 1303 00:57:33,925 --> 00:57:34,758 (audience cheering) 1304 00:57:34,758 --> 00:57:36,333 - Yeah, man, I just wanna say real quick, man, 1305 00:57:36,333 --> 00:57:38,903 thank you to all the fans, everybody who voted. 1306 00:57:38,903 --> 00:57:40,188 Thanks to YouTube. 1307 00:57:40,188 --> 00:57:42,031 Thanks everybody for coming out, man. 1308 00:57:42,031 --> 00:57:42,864 I'm out. 1309 00:57:42,864 --> 00:57:44,322 (hip-hop music) 1310 00:57:44,322 --> 00:57:46,491 - [Narrator] One of the few rappers to balance style 1311 00:57:46,491 --> 00:57:50,154 with substance in 20 years and 15 in the spotlight 1312 00:57:50,154 --> 00:57:51,498 is Eminem. 1313 00:57:51,498 --> 00:57:53,861 Over the years, Marshall Mathers has developed 1314 00:57:53,861 --> 00:57:56,872 so many unique skills that make MCs great, 1315 00:57:56,872 --> 00:58:00,212 especially in the eyes of specialized pocket of fans. 1316 00:58:00,212 --> 00:58:04,149 Using innovative songwriting and top industry resources, 1317 00:58:04,149 --> 00:58:06,029 Eminem reminded some fans 1318 00:58:06,029 --> 00:58:09,003 that rap can still be unpredictable. 1319 00:58:09,003 --> 00:58:10,421 Others considered Eminem 1320 00:58:10,421 --> 00:58:13,314 to be the epitome of a music video star. 1321 00:58:13,314 --> 00:58:17,212 "Stan" and "My Name Is" were executed brilliantly. 1322 00:58:17,212 --> 00:58:20,208 It was Walkman era rap at its finest. 1323 00:58:20,208 --> 00:58:24,655 Presumably, Eminem was many fan's first grade MC. 1324 00:58:24,655 --> 00:58:27,714 He rapped and raps amazingly on platforms 1325 00:58:27,714 --> 00:58:30,200 where skills are not often celebrated. 1326 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,628 More than that, through his real hits, 1327 00:58:32,628 --> 00:58:35,209 his high profile circumstances and feuds 1328 00:58:35,209 --> 00:58:37,186 and his first person narrative, 1329 00:58:37,186 --> 00:58:40,817 Eminem is an artist so many people feel like they know. 1330 00:58:40,817 --> 00:58:42,959 And he's still recording, arguably, 1331 00:58:42,959 --> 00:58:45,701 as well as he has in the last decade. 1332 00:58:45,701 --> 00:58:50,077 - Eminem's legacy, what people will remember Eminem for 1333 00:58:50,077 --> 00:58:53,981 is what it's possible for people to create 1334 00:58:53,981 --> 00:58:56,603 and for someone to create 1335 00:58:56,603 --> 00:59:00,241 irrespective of their circumstance. 1336 00:59:00,241 --> 00:59:03,230 If they're prepared to look at their lives 1337 00:59:03,230 --> 00:59:07,897 with an honesty and a rawness and prepared to work hard. 1338 00:59:08,858 --> 00:59:10,823 - [Ian] When you talk about all time, 1339 00:59:10,823 --> 00:59:13,296 he's definitely one of the best rappers ever. 1340 00:59:13,296 --> 00:59:15,108 One of the biggest rappers ever. 1341 00:59:15,108 --> 00:59:16,518 - But above all, 1342 00:59:16,518 --> 00:59:20,218 people will remember him for his artistic genius. 1343 00:59:20,218 --> 00:59:22,673 And genius is not a word I use lightly here. 1344 00:59:22,673 --> 00:59:25,460 - I mean, in the simplest way to look at it, 1345 00:59:25,460 --> 00:59:28,971 he made being a white rapper okay. 1346 00:59:28,971 --> 00:59:30,283 It's impossible to copy. 1347 00:59:30,283 --> 00:59:32,011 You can't clone that guy. 1348 00:59:32,011 --> 00:59:34,310 You can't be a derivative white rapper. 1349 00:59:34,310 --> 00:59:36,378 No one can even touch the guy, 1350 00:59:36,378 --> 00:59:38,875 and that's what's most impressive. 1351 00:59:38,875 --> 00:59:40,587 Yes, he sold millions of albums. 1352 00:59:40,587 --> 00:59:42,313 Yes, he's incredibly well known 1353 00:59:42,313 --> 00:59:43,842 and he can't walk down the street. 1354 00:59:43,842 --> 00:59:45,346 You know, people are constantly coming up to him 1355 00:59:45,346 --> 00:59:46,247 for autographs and stuff, 1356 00:59:46,247 --> 00:59:50,183 but beyond that, he actually touched a chord. 1357 00:59:50,183 --> 00:59:53,346 You know, he's incredibly inspirational in that sense. 1358 00:59:53,346 --> 00:59:58,230 - In a world of manufactured pop and manufactured rock, 1359 00:59:58,230 --> 01:00:00,854 this was a true artist 1360 01:00:00,854 --> 01:00:03,018 and that's what he will be remembered for. 1361 01:00:03,018 --> 01:00:05,992 - [Ben] I think if Eminem were to retire at this point, 1362 01:00:05,992 --> 01:00:10,098 he would be in a shortlist for the greatest rappers ever. 1363 01:00:10,098 --> 01:00:11,361 - And the thing about true artists 1364 01:00:11,361 --> 01:00:14,691 is they don't lose their creativity. 1365 01:00:14,691 --> 01:00:17,490 They simply morph as they get older. 1366 01:00:17,490 --> 01:00:21,267 The older he gets, the more his talent 1367 01:00:21,267 --> 01:00:24,718 and his artistic creativity will ripe and mature 1368 01:00:24,718 --> 01:00:27,198 and change and morph into something else. 1369 01:00:27,198 --> 01:00:29,923 - I think that really culturally, 1370 01:00:29,923 --> 01:00:34,323 he changed hip-hop in ways that are even more significant. 1371 01:00:34,323 --> 01:00:37,188 He sort of opened it up not just for white rappers, 1372 01:00:37,188 --> 01:00:40,198 but for a whole sort of demographic 1373 01:00:40,198 --> 01:00:43,146 that hadn't necessarily been interested in hip-hop before. 1374 01:00:43,146 --> 01:00:45,443 - One thing you can be sure of, 1375 01:00:45,443 --> 01:00:47,367 we will be hearing about Eminem 1376 01:00:47,367 --> 01:00:49,943 and he will be creating until the day he dies. 1377 01:00:49,943 --> 01:00:53,600 And what he creates will always be worth listening to. 1378 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,261 always be worth watching, and always be worth talking about. 1379 01:00:57,261 --> 01:00:58,094 (hip-hop music) 1380 01:00:58,094 --> 01:00:58,927 ♪ Eyes on the king ♪ 1381 01:00:58,927 --> 01:00:59,860 ♪ All the way up ♪ 1382 01:00:59,860 --> 01:01:01,922 ♪ We've been going here for a minute, yeah ♪ 1383 01:01:01,922 --> 01:01:04,102 ♪ We've been going here for a minute ♪ 1384 01:01:04,102 --> 01:01:06,406 ♪ We've been going here for a minute, yeah ♪ 1385 01:01:06,406 --> 01:01:07,890 ♪ We've been going here for a minute ♪ 1386 01:01:07,890 --> 01:01:10,086 ♪ I know I'm not entitled to nothing ♪ 1387 01:01:10,086 --> 01:01:10,919 ♪ No, no ♪ 1388 01:01:10,919 --> 01:01:12,271 ♪ If I think I am, then I'm blocking ♪ 1389 01:01:12,271 --> 01:01:13,104 ♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 1390 01:01:13,104 --> 01:01:14,446 ♪ I'm not entitled to nothing ♪ 1391 01:01:14,446 --> 01:01:15,279 ♪ No, no ♪ 1392 01:01:15,279 --> 01:01:16,695 ♪ If I think I am, then I'm blocking ♪ 1393 01:01:16,695 --> 01:01:17,528 ♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 1394 01:01:17,528 --> 01:01:18,438 ♪ Eyes on the king ♪ 1395 01:01:18,438 --> 01:01:19,495 ♪ All the way up ♪ 1396 01:01:19,495 --> 01:01:20,726 ♪ Eyes on the king ♪ 1397 01:01:20,726 --> 01:01:21,746 ♪ All the way up ♪ 1398 01:01:21,746 --> 01:01:22,911 ♪ Eyes on the king ♪ 1399 01:01:22,911 --> 01:01:24,063 ♪ All the way up ♪ 1400 01:01:24,063 --> 01:01:25,064 ♪ Eyes on the king ♪ 1401 01:01:25,064 --> 01:01:26,240 ♪ All the way up ♪ 1402 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,687 ♪ I'm not entitled to nothing ♪ 1403 01:01:27,687 --> 01:01:28,520 ♪ No, no ♪ 1404 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,798 ♪ If I think I am ♪