1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:05,100 --> 00:00:09,867 This is the greatest paranormal story you've never heard of. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:09,967 --> 00:00:15,700 A terror that rivals horror films like Amityville and the Poltergeist. 5 00:00:15,767 --> 00:00:21,166 But this is a true story set in the middle of America's heartland. 6 00:00:21,266 --> 00:00:24,467 [Duane speaking] 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,000 [Steve] In 1974 and '75, in the small farming town of Merrill, Michigan, 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,266 [Steve] In 1974 and '75, in the small farming town of Merrill, Michigan, 9 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:36,367 the Pomeraning family was tormented 10 00:00:36,467 --> 00:00:41,100 -by extreme, relentless poltergeist activity. -[telephone rings] 11 00:00:41,166 --> 00:00:46,600 Knocking, pounding, even spontaneous combustion. 12 00:00:46,667 --> 00:00:51,700 After 50 years, the family and townspeople are talking. 13 00:00:51,767 --> 00:00:55,867 With hundreds of police reports and hours of audio recordings, 14 00:00:55,867 --> 00:00:57,967 some never before seen or heard... 15 00:00:57,967 --> 00:00:59,500 [Duane Speaking] 16 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:00,000 [Steve] ...I'm finally going to find the truth about the evil 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,767 [Steve] ...I'm finally going to find the truth about the evil 18 00:01:02,767 --> 00:01:07,100 that destroyed a family and forever changed a town. 19 00:01:07,166 --> 00:01:08,900 An evil that still lives there... 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,367 -[device chiming] -[Steve] What is happening? 21 00:01:10,367 --> 00:01:11,500 [Steve] ...to this day. 22 00:01:11,567 --> 00:01:13,166 -Who are you? -[unexplained voice speaking] 23 00:01:14,467 --> 00:01:17,767 It literally said, "Satan, the demon." 24 00:01:17,867 --> 00:01:20,667 [Steve] Welcome to the Michigan Hell House. 25 00:01:33,467 --> 00:01:37,400 [Steve] I've been a paranormal investigator for more than 20 years. 26 00:01:37,467 --> 00:01:40,767 I thought I had heard every ghost story there was. 27 00:01:40,867 --> 00:01:43,900 But all of that changed about seven years ago. 28 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,266 Somebody contacted me online. 29 00:01:46,367 --> 00:01:49,100 They stated that they had a box of police reports 30 00:01:49,166 --> 00:01:51,567 that was vital that I got my hands on. 31 00:01:51,567 --> 00:01:54,867 When I brought it home, it read like a horror story. 32 00:01:54,867 --> 00:01:59,200 A demonic force terrorizing a family for months on end, 33 00:01:59,266 --> 00:02:00,000 toying with them, attacking them, slowly driving them mad. 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:05,166 toying with them, attacking them, slowly driving them mad. 35 00:02:05,266 --> 00:02:08,867 And it all happened right in my back yard. 36 00:02:08,867 --> 00:02:12,300 I grew up in Saginaw, just one town over. 37 00:02:12,367 --> 00:02:15,900 The people in these reports, they didn't feel like strangers, 38 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,100 they felt like neighbors, like friends. 39 00:02:19,166 --> 00:02:21,567 I was instantly determined to help. 40 00:02:24,166 --> 00:02:29,100 Merrill, Michigan, a village hardly a square mile wide, 41 00:02:29,166 --> 00:02:30,000 home to the Pomeraning family. 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,600 home to the Pomeraning family. 43 00:02:32,667 --> 00:02:39,300 In 1951, Harold and Mabel built their first house on the family's old farmstead, 44 00:02:39,367 --> 00:02:44,166 the home where their two sons, Terry and Duane, were born and raised. 45 00:02:45,266 --> 00:02:48,266 They moved out of the house nearly 50 years ago. 46 00:02:48,266 --> 00:02:50,033 Terry, Duane. 47 00:02:50,066 --> 00:02:54,867 [Steve] Today, the brothers are the only members of the family who remain. 48 00:02:54,867 --> 00:02:59,000 We were just an ordinary family that farmed and went to church. 49 00:02:59,066 --> 00:03:00,000 Yeah. I mean, we had a good childhood, me and Duane. 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,867 Yeah. I mean, we had a good childhood, me and Duane. 51 00:03:02,867 --> 00:03:08,166 But when you really look back, what was that moment where everything changed? 52 00:03:08,266 --> 00:03:12,266 Our problems started on July 9th, '74. 53 00:03:14,066 --> 00:03:17,400 We were gonna open up the blueberry season for the first day that day. 54 00:03:17,467 --> 00:03:20,867 At 8:00 o'clock, our whole family had went to bed 55 00:03:20,967 --> 00:03:22,367 about midnight that night... 56 00:03:29,467 --> 00:03:30,000 [glass breaking] 57 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:30,600 [glass breaking] 58 00:03:32,066 --> 00:03:33,166 What was that? 59 00:03:33,266 --> 00:03:34,667 [gun clicks] 60 00:03:36,066 --> 00:03:37,500 -What's happening? -Go back to your room. 61 00:03:51,567 --> 00:03:52,867 Who's out there? 62 00:04:01,767 --> 00:04:03,300 [Terry] We didn't see nothing. 63 00:04:03,367 --> 00:04:05,400 And so we called 911. 64 00:04:05,467 --> 00:04:07,300 [operator] 911, what's your emergency? 65 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,700 [Steve] From the summer of 1974 to the spring of 1975, 66 00:04:13,767 --> 00:04:17,367 the family called the police every single day, 67 00:04:17,467 --> 00:04:21,867 reporting unexplained, bizarre, menacing activity. 68 00:04:21,967 --> 00:04:25,900 Someone or something was targeting them. 69 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,567 [Terry] Evil was in the house with us constantly. 70 00:04:34,367 --> 00:04:36,767 Even though it's been 47 years, 71 00:04:36,767 --> 00:04:39,400 I know I think about it every day, you know? 72 00:04:39,467 --> 00:04:44,266 As some would say that you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy. 73 00:04:44,266 --> 00:04:47,767 I don't know what to tell you, after all these years why that happened. 74 00:04:47,767 --> 00:04:51,200 We thought later on, "Why is this happening to us for, you know?" 75 00:04:51,266 --> 00:04:54,700 I mean, we're not... we've never bothered nobody. 76 00:04:54,767 --> 00:04:58,166 I think a lot of people that stayed don't believe that that ever happened. 77 00:04:58,166 --> 00:05:00,000 We went through hell, man. 78 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:00,867 We went through hell, man. 79 00:05:00,867 --> 00:05:05,000 My dad was only 60, my mother was only 64 when they died. 80 00:05:05,066 --> 00:05:08,000 [Duane] I think, had this never happened, to be honest with you, 81 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:10,166 -they would have lived a lot longer. -[crow cawing] 82 00:05:10,166 --> 00:05:12,867 [Steve] You know, guys, that this... this case has never left me. 83 00:05:12,867 --> 00:05:19,367 And based on, I want to show you the catalyst behind reopening the case. 84 00:05:19,467 --> 00:05:21,467 [parapsychologist speaking] 85 00:06:05,467 --> 00:06:06,867 Never heard that. 86 00:06:10,467 --> 00:06:11,567 Wow. 87 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,767 Dad's voice, man. 88 00:06:20,300 --> 00:06:22,300 [Steve] I know it was difficult to hear that. 89 00:06:23,767 --> 00:06:27,367 And at the same time, I'm sure kind of wonderful to hear that, too. 90 00:06:29,467 --> 00:06:30,000 [Terry] How'd you come up with that? 91 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,367 [Terry] How'd you come up with that? 92 00:06:31,367 --> 00:06:33,900 Well, these are the original recordings 93 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,100 from the parapsychologist that came out... 94 00:06:36,166 --> 00:06:38,266 -Really? -[Steve] ...to interview you guys. 95 00:06:38,266 --> 00:06:40,367 It's been 50 years. 96 00:06:40,367 --> 00:06:43,066 So imagine how many things could be on these recordings 97 00:06:43,066 --> 00:06:44,600 reminding you guys of certain things 98 00:06:44,667 --> 00:06:46,600 which could trigger even more memory. 99 00:06:46,667 --> 00:06:48,567 It sounds to me like he was really pissed off. 100 00:06:50,166 --> 00:06:52,400 They went through a lot and-- 101 00:06:52,467 --> 00:06:53,667 [Terry] They didn't deserve that. 102 00:06:53,767 --> 00:06:55,767 No, they didn't deserve that. 103 00:06:55,767 --> 00:06:58,166 Maybe we can truly find what happened, 104 00:06:58,266 --> 00:07:00,000 because after all these decades, 105 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:00,467 because after all these decades, 106 00:07:00,567 --> 00:07:02,100 maybe you can give them one word. 107 00:07:02,166 --> 00:07:04,266 You know what that word is? Peace. 108 00:07:04,266 --> 00:07:05,667 Well, I'll tell you one thing. 109 00:07:05,667 --> 00:07:07,767 We're gonna go through everything. 110 00:07:11,667 --> 00:07:13,967 [Steve] Tonight, I'm heading to the Hell House 111 00:07:13,967 --> 00:07:17,100 with psychic medium, Cindy Kaza. 112 00:07:17,166 --> 00:07:23,266 But first, I'm paying a visit to the current residents, Bridgette and Julie Larsen. 113 00:07:23,266 --> 00:07:25,867 We'll definitely appreciate you guys taking the time and, you know, 114 00:07:25,867 --> 00:07:27,467 letting me over here. 115 00:07:27,467 --> 00:07:29,800 I want to stop by and tell you guys, 116 00:07:29,867 --> 00:07:30,000 I mean, we got to get to the bottom 117 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,300 I mean, we got to get to the bottom 118 00:07:31,367 --> 00:07:33,166 of what happened here for the Pomeranings. 119 00:07:33,266 --> 00:07:34,767 -Yeah, absolutely. -Absolutely. 120 00:07:34,867 --> 00:07:37,767 What kind of experiences have you guys had in this house? 121 00:07:37,867 --> 00:07:41,266 We were home alone and we both seen it. 122 00:07:42,567 --> 00:07:44,166 And it was almost like a white thing, 123 00:07:44,166 --> 00:07:47,300 like a shadow almost with like hands in the window. 124 00:07:47,367 --> 00:07:48,900 And we freaked out. 125 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,300 There was no footsteps, nothing. 126 00:07:51,367 --> 00:07:53,700 [Julie] I was scared as a kid every day. 127 00:07:54,867 --> 00:07:58,100 Um, one time I was sleeping in the bed and I was... 128 00:07:58,166 --> 00:08:00,000 there was like a flash, like someone, like, took a picture of me. 129 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,467 there was like a flash, like someone, like, took a picture of me. 130 00:08:01,567 --> 00:08:03,667 Okay. And obviously nothing that would possibly explain it, 131 00:08:03,667 --> 00:08:05,166 that you could think of? 132 00:08:05,166 --> 00:08:08,000 Nothing. I always felt like someone was watching me at all times. 133 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,567 So I don't know. I can't explain it. 134 00:08:10,667 --> 00:08:14,567 It's nothing like it was with the Pomeranings with us. 135 00:08:14,667 --> 00:08:17,900 I would love to come back here and do some night investigation 136 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 'cause, really, I feel like the answers 137 00:08:20,066 --> 00:08:22,000 are going to be in this house one way or the other. 138 00:08:22,100 --> 00:08:23,300 -Yeah, absolutely. -Absolutely. 139 00:08:32,166 --> 00:08:33,867 -[Steve] Hey. -Hey. 140 00:08:33,867 --> 00:08:37,667 [Steve] So I think essentially we'll take a walk over to the property 141 00:08:37,667 --> 00:08:39,367 and just kind of do a baseline reading. 142 00:08:39,367 --> 00:08:41,000 -Okay. -[Steve] And see what you pick up on. 143 00:08:41,066 --> 00:08:42,200 Yeah. 144 00:08:43,300 --> 00:08:45,867 [Steve] Cindy knows nothing about this case, 145 00:08:45,867 --> 00:08:48,166 but I'm hoping her psychic abilities 146 00:08:48,166 --> 00:08:50,800 can sense what hundreds of documents 147 00:08:50,867 --> 00:08:53,667 and a year of investigation couldn't. 148 00:08:53,667 --> 00:08:58,367 What caused all the strange and terrifying phenomena here. 149 00:08:58,467 --> 00:09:00,000 Any vibes on the way out here? 150 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,567 Any vibes on the way out here? 151 00:09:00,667 --> 00:09:01,800 [Cindy] Yes. 152 00:09:01,867 --> 00:09:06,967 I feel like this is a really weird case. 153 00:09:06,967 --> 00:09:10,767 It's going to take a while to really put all the pieces together. 154 00:09:10,867 --> 00:09:12,000 I don't know yet. 155 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,367 How are you feeling? 156 00:09:15,367 --> 00:09:16,967 -[Steve] There's kind of an ominous feeling... -[Cindy] Yeah. 157 00:09:16,967 --> 00:09:18,567 [Steve] ...I guess is the best way to describe it. 158 00:09:19,667 --> 00:09:21,967 [Cindy] Right as I step in the driveway, 159 00:09:21,967 --> 00:09:26,000 when I look at this house, I see like the house is alive. 160 00:09:28,166 --> 00:09:30,000 But you know what? I just heard 161 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:30,567 But you know what? I just heard 162 00:09:31,667 --> 00:09:33,000 "Burn it to the ground." 163 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:37,767 -There's a terrible fire for sure. -[exhales sharply] 164 00:09:37,767 --> 00:09:39,467 It doesn't feel accidental. 165 00:09:39,467 --> 00:09:42,667 It feels like arson. It feels intentional. 166 00:09:42,667 --> 00:09:44,000 Okay. 167 00:09:45,100 --> 00:09:47,266 I also want to go behind the house. 168 00:09:47,367 --> 00:09:49,967 But I look over here, I'm seeing this woman 169 00:09:49,967 --> 00:09:56,200 and she's looking at me, luring me, she is saying, "Come this way." 170 00:09:56,266 --> 00:09:59,567 The energy in this house or whatever this haunting is, 171 00:09:59,667 --> 00:10:00,000 people will think at times they fixed it 172 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,266 people will think at times they fixed it 173 00:10:02,266 --> 00:10:05,700 and then it goes, it goes flat and people think they're safe, 174 00:10:05,767 --> 00:10:07,567 and then it comes back with a vengeance. 175 00:10:08,867 --> 00:10:11,400 [sighs] 176 00:10:11,467 --> 00:10:15,767 Like the man who first built this property, he hasn't found peace. 177 00:10:15,867 --> 00:10:17,066 That's the sense that I get. 178 00:10:18,166 --> 00:10:19,567 That's a very accurate statement. 179 00:10:19,567 --> 00:10:22,066 He hasn't found peace. 180 00:10:22,066 --> 00:10:24,100 And it has to do with his wife or his... 181 00:10:24,166 --> 00:10:25,700 [knocking] 182 00:10:27,667 --> 00:10:29,400 -Did you hear that knocking? -[Steve] Yes. 183 00:10:31,667 --> 00:10:33,000 [Cindy] I heard it inside of the house. 184 00:10:35,066 --> 00:10:36,667 [Steve] I bet no one's in the house. 185 00:10:37,500 --> 00:10:39,000 [scoffs] 186 00:10:39,066 --> 00:10:40,900 What the hell did you get me into? [laughing] 187 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,100 This is like, 'What the hell is happening?" 188 00:10:44,166 --> 00:10:48,000 It's a case unlike anything else. 189 00:10:48,066 --> 00:10:52,567 You know, I see so much poltergeist activity in there, like dangerous... 190 00:10:52,667 --> 00:10:55,100 -So much poltergeist activity? -[Cindy] ...poltergeist activity, 191 00:10:55,166 --> 00:10:58,100 so much poltergeist activity 192 00:10:58,166 --> 00:11:00,000 to the point where people are terrified to even be in the house. 193 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,300 to the point where people are terrified to even be in the house. 194 00:11:02,367 --> 00:11:04,467 Things are flying off shelves. 195 00:11:04,567 --> 00:11:06,767 People are getting thrown against the wall. 196 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,667 [Steve] What the hell was that? 197 00:11:12,767 --> 00:11:14,467 [Cindy] I don't know, dude. 198 00:11:14,567 --> 00:11:16,867 [Steve] I don't know if that was an animal. I don't know what that was. 199 00:11:18,767 --> 00:11:22,266 There's nothing that can stop this force from moving forward. 200 00:11:22,367 --> 00:11:23,667 It still hasn't been stopped. 201 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,000 I could see windows breaking too, 202 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:30,166 I could see windows breaking too, 203 00:11:30,266 --> 00:11:32,500 -just windows, shattering windows. -[Steve] Whoa, whoa, whoa. 204 00:11:32,567 --> 00:11:34,867 [Cindy] They're just exploding out of the house. 205 00:11:35,867 --> 00:11:37,200 I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell you this right now, 206 00:11:37,266 --> 00:11:40,100 because I have to, like, I have chills throughout my body. 207 00:11:40,166 --> 00:11:41,867 -You stopped here and said that. -[Cindy] Yeah. 208 00:11:41,967 --> 00:11:44,467 [Steve] That window blew out and shattered in the middle of the night, 209 00:11:44,467 --> 00:11:45,667 and that's when everything started. 210 00:11:45,767 --> 00:11:48,166 [Cindy] It is crazy. 211 00:11:48,166 --> 00:11:49,700 I... I could feel it. 212 00:11:52,166 --> 00:11:54,700 Who brought this into the damn house, though? 213 00:11:54,767 --> 00:11:57,367 That's the thing. Where did this start? What happened? 214 00:11:57,467 --> 00:11:59,500 Like, that's what I want to figure out. 215 00:11:59,567 --> 00:12:00,000 [Steve] I wanted to just come out here and have you get a baseline. 216 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,100 [Steve] I wanted to just come out here and have you get a baseline. 217 00:12:02,166 --> 00:12:04,667 But are you picking up anything? 218 00:12:06,567 --> 00:12:08,767 [exhales sharply] 219 00:12:08,867 --> 00:12:12,567 Has anybody ever said that when they're in this house, when they're laying in bed, 220 00:12:12,567 --> 00:12:15,400 they've woken up to something floating above them? 221 00:12:15,467 --> 00:12:17,033 Yes. 222 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:21,266 One time I was sleeping in the bed and I was... there was like a flash. 223 00:12:24,567 --> 00:12:27,266 That's it. It can shape-shift. 224 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,767 What do you think it is? 225 00:12:29,867 --> 00:12:30,000 I have no idea, Steve. I don't know yet. 226 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,867 I have no idea, Steve. I don't know yet. 227 00:12:32,867 --> 00:12:36,266 But I feel like it's something I haven't encountered in my career yet, 228 00:12:36,266 --> 00:12:37,567 and it scares me a little bit. 229 00:12:38,667 --> 00:12:41,000 Honestly, I don't know what it is. 230 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,467 I mean, I think with what's happening, 231 00:12:45,467 --> 00:12:49,100 I almost wouldn't mind a little impromptu investigation 232 00:12:49,166 --> 00:12:50,467 with my equipment. 233 00:12:52,467 --> 00:12:54,266 -You feel up to it? -Yeah, I'm up to it. 234 00:12:54,367 --> 00:12:55,567 -[Steve] Okay. -Yeah. 235 00:12:58,900 --> 00:13:00,000 [Steve] That knocking definitely came from over here. 236 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,667 [Steve] That knocking definitely came from over here. 237 00:13:01,767 --> 00:13:06,467 I'm thinking three different spots right here by the house. 238 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,266 Okay. We're recording there. 239 00:13:10,300 --> 00:13:12,400 I'm gonna try some communication real quick. 240 00:13:12,467 --> 00:13:14,000 [device chimes] 241 00:13:14,066 --> 00:13:16,000 Boom. Did you see that right there? 242 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:17,867 I feel like something is here. 243 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,567 Are you setting off the device? 244 00:13:23,667 --> 00:13:25,000 -This is insane. -Yeah. 245 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:28,100 There's nothing that would account for these readings. 246 00:13:29,500 --> 00:13:30,000 Cindy and I heard you knocking on the-- 247 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,800 Cindy and I heard you knocking on the-- 248 00:13:31,867 --> 00:13:33,900 [device chimes] 249 00:13:35,567 --> 00:13:38,367 It literally went off as we came over here. 250 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:41,767 What the hell was that? 251 00:13:44,667 --> 00:13:46,367 [knocking] 252 00:13:48,166 --> 00:13:49,900 I know no one's in the house. 253 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,567 But honestly, it looked like something white moved right here. 254 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,166 [Steve] A quick check of our footage reveals 255 00:13:58,266 --> 00:14:00,000 what looks like a white orb moving throughout the house. 256 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,567 what looks like a white orb moving throughout the house. 257 00:14:02,667 --> 00:14:04,567 I feel like something is on the other side of that window. 258 00:14:04,567 --> 00:14:06,400 -There is. -I mean, I saw it with my own eyes, 259 00:14:06,467 --> 00:14:09,467 but I can tell it's... it's looking at us. 260 00:14:09,567 --> 00:14:11,567 We're definitely not alone here. That's for sure. 261 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,767 Every time I go to walk to this window, the meter goes off. 262 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:23,500 I cannot believe that just happened. 263 00:14:23,567 --> 00:14:25,367 I'm gonna place the recorder here. 264 00:14:29,066 --> 00:14:30,000 Can you tell us your name? 265 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:30,266 Can you tell us your name? 266 00:14:34,066 --> 00:14:36,000 Why do you watch people when they sleep? 267 00:14:39,667 --> 00:14:42,367 [Steve on recorder] Every time I go to walk to this window, 268 00:14:42,367 --> 00:14:43,800 the meter goes off. 269 00:14:43,867 --> 00:14:45,767 -Every time. -[Cindy on recorder] Every time. 270 00:14:45,767 --> 00:14:47,800 [Steve on recorder] Definitely not a coincidence. 271 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,467 Can you tell us your name? 272 00:14:56,367 --> 00:14:58,367 Why do you watch people when they sleep? 273 00:15:00,767 --> 00:15:02,133 [gasps] 274 00:15:02,166 --> 00:15:06,100 -"You're all gonna die." -Steve, that is the scariest [bleep] 275 00:15:06,166 --> 00:15:07,364 I've ever heard. 276 00:15:07,364 --> 00:15:07,533 I've ever heard. 277 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,600 -You heard it. I heard it. -[Cindy] I am so [bleep] freaked out. 278 00:15:09,667 --> 00:15:11,567 -No, that was scary. -[Steve] At the very end. 279 00:15:13,967 --> 00:15:15,800 [Steve on recorder] Why do you watch people when they sleep? 280 00:15:16,700 --> 00:15:18,667 -[gasps] -[Steve] "You're all gonna die." 281 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,400 I'm not kidding, that's fricking terrifying. 282 00:15:23,467 --> 00:15:24,867 That's the worst EVP I've ever recorded. 283 00:15:24,967 --> 00:15:29,100 Dude, that is... seriously, that is so messed up. 284 00:15:29,166 --> 00:15:30,367 Female voice. 285 00:15:30,367 --> 00:15:33,700 I'm shaking because that... that legitimately scared me. 286 00:15:33,767 --> 00:15:37,364 -Yeah. That's... that's disturbing as hell. -Wow. 287 00:15:37,364 --> 00:15:38,100 -Yeah. That's... that's disturbing as hell. -Wow. 288 00:15:38,166 --> 00:15:41,200 Everyone's gonna have to be really careful moving forward on this one. 289 00:15:41,266 --> 00:15:44,166 I mean, that's... you want to talk about an omen. 290 00:15:44,266 --> 00:15:47,367 It's not safe, for real. 291 00:15:47,467 --> 00:15:49,700 Yeah. I completely agree. 292 00:15:49,767 --> 00:15:56,200 Whatever is in that house, I feel like it's a force to be reckoned with. 293 00:15:56,266 --> 00:16:00,767 And people that have lived here and live here are terrified of the house 294 00:16:00,767 --> 00:16:03,367 that they live in and what it can do. 295 00:16:11,500 --> 00:16:14,367 [Steve] Cindy was really tapped in last night. 296 00:16:14,467 --> 00:16:17,600 Many of her visions matched the most terrifying 297 00:16:17,667 --> 00:16:20,667 and well-documented elements of the story. 298 00:16:20,667 --> 00:16:23,266 Last night was extremely intense. 299 00:16:23,266 --> 00:16:26,266 -Definitely. -I want to talk to you about what happened out there. 300 00:16:26,266 --> 00:16:28,567 Um, if you notice, I got these boards turned around. 301 00:16:28,567 --> 00:16:30,567 There's a lot of information I have here in the room 302 00:16:30,667 --> 00:16:33,100 -that I know you don't want to be privy to. -Right. 303 00:16:33,166 --> 00:16:36,667 There was a lot of things yesterday that you hit on, 304 00:16:36,667 --> 00:16:37,364 you know, from that baseline reading. 305 00:16:37,364 --> 00:16:38,700 you know, from that baseline reading. 306 00:16:38,767 --> 00:16:42,900 Uh, before we go into that though, I can't get over that EVP. 307 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,767 I've played it over and over. 308 00:16:45,767 --> 00:16:47,567 It was really scary. 309 00:16:47,567 --> 00:16:49,166 And I've been scared before, 310 00:16:49,166 --> 00:16:52,600 but that's probably the most terrifying EVP that I've ever heard. 311 00:16:52,667 --> 00:16:53,800 Yeah, I agree. 312 00:16:55,567 --> 00:16:56,500 [gasps] 313 00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:58,467 -"You're all gonna die." -[Cindy] Steve. 314 00:16:58,467 --> 00:17:00,600 -It's a woman for sure. -Yes. 315 00:17:00,667 --> 00:17:02,667 That leads me to something else. 316 00:17:02,667 --> 00:17:04,667 You said that you were picking up on a woman 317 00:17:04,767 --> 00:17:07,364 that was trying to lead us behind the house near the barn. 318 00:17:07,364 --> 00:17:07,700 that was trying to lead us behind the house near the barn. 319 00:17:07,767 --> 00:17:09,400 -[Cindy] Mmm-hmm. -What can you tell me about that? 320 00:17:10,500 --> 00:17:13,000 [Cindy] She felt like she was trying to lure us 321 00:17:13,066 --> 00:17:14,967 somewhere that wasn't in her best interest. 322 00:17:14,967 --> 00:17:17,700 The fact that you use luring is very interesting. 323 00:17:18,900 --> 00:17:21,967 We had an experience out there of hearing knocking. 324 00:17:21,967 --> 00:17:23,467 [knocking] 325 00:17:23,567 --> 00:17:26,000 Did you... did you hear that knocking? 326 00:17:26,100 --> 00:17:29,000 -It was three knocks. -Yes, three knocks. 327 00:17:29,100 --> 00:17:35,000 This is how it all began with pounding, with knocking on the outside of the house. 328 00:17:35,066 --> 00:17:36,367 The minute you went out there, 329 00:17:36,467 --> 00:17:37,364 you were hitting on things left and right. 330 00:17:37,364 --> 00:17:38,567 you were hitting on things left and right. 331 00:17:38,567 --> 00:17:40,066 You instantly picked up... 332 00:17:40,066 --> 00:17:43,467 You kind of stopped and started talking about a window being broken. 333 00:17:45,166 --> 00:17:49,800 What I believe is that night, that's when evil came into the home. 334 00:17:49,867 --> 00:17:52,000 But what brought it in there? 335 00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:53,367 That's what we need to figure out. 336 00:17:53,467 --> 00:17:55,333 Exactly. 337 00:17:55,333 --> 00:17:58,867 [Steve] Knowing what happened during those first days of unexplained activity 338 00:17:58,867 --> 00:18:03,266 could be the key to unlocking the mystery of the Hell House. 339 00:18:03,266 --> 00:18:06,166 One of the first police officers to respond to the home 340 00:18:06,266 --> 00:18:07,364 in the summer of 1974 341 00:18:07,364 --> 00:18:08,467 in the summer of 1974 342 00:18:08,467 --> 00:18:11,600 was retired sergeant, Charles Frisby. 343 00:18:11,667 --> 00:18:15,567 He's agreed to meet with me and go over the shocking case. 344 00:18:15,567 --> 00:18:16,867 [Charles] I received a call. 345 00:18:17,467 --> 00:18:20,100 I think it was 1974. 346 00:18:20,166 --> 00:18:24,467 A prowler call. Chapping in, Dice Road see Mr. Pomeraning. 347 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:26,200 So I get there. 348 00:18:26,266 --> 00:18:28,867 All he says, "I've heard some really strange noises." 349 00:18:30,667 --> 00:18:32,467 He says, "My heart's beating on my ass." 350 00:18:32,467 --> 00:18:34,567 "Okay," I said, "I'll go out and look around." 351 00:18:34,567 --> 00:18:36,367 But when I went outside and looked, 352 00:18:36,367 --> 00:18:37,364 I saw no evidence of anybody being around there, 353 00:18:37,364 --> 00:18:39,600 I saw no evidence of anybody being around there, 354 00:18:39,667 --> 00:18:41,967 no tracks and anything. 355 00:18:41,967 --> 00:18:44,000 I said, "Well, okay, we'll keep an eye on it." 356 00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:46,100 So... 357 00:18:46,166 --> 00:18:47,300 I... I left. 358 00:18:48,467 --> 00:18:50,900 [Steve] But the knocking continued. 359 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,000 I had that fear every night, just didn't know what was going to happen, 360 00:18:55,066 --> 00:18:58,166 and if we were going to make it through the night or not. 361 00:19:02,367 --> 00:19:03,967 [Steve] Over the next few weeks, 362 00:19:03,967 --> 00:19:07,364 other witnesses outside of the family experienced the phenomena, 363 00:19:07,364 --> 00:19:07,967 other witnesses outside of the family experienced the phenomena, 364 00:19:07,967 --> 00:19:11,400 including their friends, Doug and Vicki Buckley. 365 00:19:11,467 --> 00:19:13,767 So you live right next to the Pomeranings. 366 00:19:13,867 --> 00:19:15,900 This is happening right next door. 367 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,367 We were sitting in the living room 368 00:19:17,367 --> 00:19:23,100 and the knocking came from the north side by the front door. 369 00:19:23,166 --> 00:19:26,600 The stuff that was on the wall was shaking. 370 00:19:26,667 --> 00:19:28,467 So it was that loud. 371 00:19:28,467 --> 00:19:29,767 He'd go out one door 372 00:19:29,867 --> 00:19:32,400 and I would go out the other door and didn't see nothing. 373 00:19:32,467 --> 00:19:33,800 The knocking continued. 374 00:19:33,867 --> 00:19:35,100 Boom, boom, boom! 375 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:37,364 [Pam] We were just sitting around the table, 376 00:19:37,364 --> 00:19:37,967 [Pam] We were just sitting around the table, 377 00:19:37,967 --> 00:19:40,467 all at once, we heard this bang, bang, bang. 378 00:19:40,567 --> 00:19:42,500 Wow. I mean, bang, bang, bang. 379 00:19:42,567 --> 00:19:43,967 Yeah, it sounded like somebody was... 380 00:19:43,967 --> 00:19:46,767 Like, if you stood here and beat on a damn wall. 381 00:19:49,166 --> 00:19:52,500 [Steve] I mean, what was that like if you didn't know who was the suspect? 382 00:19:52,567 --> 00:19:54,900 What were you guys thinking as this first began? 383 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,767 Well, at first I thought, you know, these new neighbors moved in 384 00:19:58,867 --> 00:20:02,266 a month before and this stuff started happening in our house and... 385 00:20:02,367 --> 00:20:05,300 In the beginning, they were really nice people. 386 00:20:05,367 --> 00:20:06,500 [Terry] It seemed like anyway. 387 00:20:06,567 --> 00:20:07,364 In the end, they were not. 388 00:20:07,364 --> 00:20:08,500 In the end, they were not. 389 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:15,767 [engine starting] 390 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,500 [exhales sharply] [bleep] 391 00:20:27,567 --> 00:20:29,166 Can I help you with something? 392 00:20:29,266 --> 00:20:31,000 I want to buy your home. 393 00:20:32,367 --> 00:20:36,166 Why would you buy a brand-new house and then be asking to buy the neighbor's house? 394 00:20:36,266 --> 00:20:37,364 Good question. I have no idea. 395 00:20:37,364 --> 00:20:38,467 Good question. I have no idea. 396 00:20:38,467 --> 00:20:40,767 My dad said, "Sell our house? 397 00:20:40,867 --> 00:20:43,500 Why are you asking about selling our house?" 398 00:20:43,567 --> 00:20:45,367 And she would never answer. 399 00:20:46,700 --> 00:20:50,400 [Steve] The new neighbors made a strange first impression. 400 00:20:50,467 --> 00:20:54,500 But another encounter between Duane and the unusual newcomers 401 00:20:54,567 --> 00:20:57,567 still haunts the brothers to this day. 402 00:20:57,667 --> 00:20:58,934 Duane doesn't even really know... 403 00:20:58,934 --> 00:21:00,767 I went to their house, and I don't know how I got there. 404 00:21:00,767 --> 00:21:04,367 [Terry] He doesn't even know why or how he even got there. 405 00:21:04,467 --> 00:21:06,367 I looked out, and I said, "I don't see him anywhere." 406 00:21:06,467 --> 00:21:07,364 And here... he comes home then that night and he just started... 407 00:21:07,364 --> 00:21:11,800 And here... he comes home then that night and he just started... 408 00:21:11,867 --> 00:21:14,500 he was acting a little sort of weird, too, 409 00:21:14,567 --> 00:21:18,467 and he started telling us that she took him all through their house 410 00:21:18,567 --> 00:21:24,467 and she even cut his hair, and he just... just passed right out. 411 00:21:25,367 --> 00:21:28,100 And wasn't coming to. 412 00:21:28,166 --> 00:21:30,667 By the time the ambulance got out there, he was turning blue. 413 00:21:30,767 --> 00:21:32,400 We thought he was going to die. 414 00:21:34,867 --> 00:21:37,364 [Steve] Thanks to an emergency tracheotomy, 415 00:21:37,364 --> 00:21:37,367 [Steve] Thanks to an emergency tracheotomy, 416 00:21:37,367 --> 00:21:39,767 Duane narrowly escapes death 417 00:21:39,767 --> 00:21:42,967 and doctors diagnosed him with epilepsy. 418 00:21:44,066 --> 00:21:47,900 But further testing told a different story. 419 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,600 Everybody thought you had epilepsy, 420 00:21:49,667 --> 00:21:54,800 but I have a report from the Mayo Clinic that said you did not have epilepsy. 421 00:21:54,867 --> 00:21:57,800 I mean, they are the definitive authority in health care. 422 00:21:57,867 --> 00:22:00,800 I mean, I've been seizure-free now for years. 423 00:22:00,867 --> 00:22:02,667 Before that, there was no problems. 424 00:22:02,667 --> 00:22:05,567 So then really what caused that seizure? 425 00:22:07,266 --> 00:22:07,364 It almost sounds like you almost kind of had 426 00:22:07,364 --> 00:22:09,900 It almost sounds like you almost kind of had 427 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,700 a gut feeling about these neighbors, 428 00:22:11,767 --> 00:22:13,066 which were next door to you guys. 429 00:22:13,066 --> 00:22:14,767 -Yeah. -[Duane] Right. 430 00:22:14,767 --> 00:22:18,467 [Steve] Duane has no memory of what happened during those missing hours 431 00:22:18,467 --> 00:22:20,333 at the neighbor's home. 432 00:22:20,333 --> 00:22:24,867 From that day forward, Mabel refused to let him go on the neighbor's property. 433 00:22:24,967 --> 00:22:27,166 But still, throughout the summer, 434 00:22:27,166 --> 00:22:28,967 the knocking continued 435 00:22:28,967 --> 00:22:32,967 and the police reports on the Hell House were piling up. 436 00:22:32,967 --> 00:22:36,400 [Charles] Well, I have never, ever seen 437 00:22:36,467 --> 00:22:37,364 this much paperwork done on a prowler call 438 00:22:37,364 --> 00:22:40,400 this much paperwork done on a prowler call 439 00:22:40,467 --> 00:22:44,467 and why this continues to escalate, continues to escalate. 440 00:22:45,467 --> 00:22:46,867 [Charles speaking] 441 00:22:48,266 --> 00:22:50,667 -This was the Halloween night stakeout. -This is Halloween night. 442 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,600 [Steve] That Halloween night, investigating officers assembled a special task force 443 00:22:58,667 --> 00:23:01,300 to conduct a large scale stakeout. 444 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,166 [Charles] We put cars east, west, north, south, 445 00:23:05,266 --> 00:23:06,700 had the whole place surrounded with cars, 446 00:23:06,767 --> 00:23:07,364 staked it out, get it off the roads and I don't see anything. 447 00:23:07,364 --> 00:23:10,300 staked it out, get it off the roads and I don't see anything. 448 00:23:10,367 --> 00:23:12,600 [Steve] The family was completely unaware 449 00:23:12,667 --> 00:23:17,867 that the entire home was surrounded with officers lying in wait. 450 00:23:17,867 --> 00:23:21,567 Around midnight, the captain who was stationed inside the home 451 00:23:21,567 --> 00:23:24,567 radioed that the knocking had begun. 452 00:23:24,567 --> 00:23:28,367 The task force surrounding the home could not hear the knocking outside 453 00:23:28,367 --> 00:23:32,300 but could hear the knocks coming through the captain's radio transmission 454 00:23:32,367 --> 00:23:34,266 as he called for backup. 455 00:23:34,367 --> 00:23:36,467 [officer 1 on radio] The knocking is coming from inside the house. 456 00:23:36,467 --> 00:23:37,364 I repeat, the knocking is coming from inside the house. 457 00:23:37,364 --> 00:23:40,367 I repeat, the knocking is coming from inside the house. 458 00:23:40,467 --> 00:23:42,166 [officer 2 on radio] Like one of the boys or something. 459 00:23:42,266 --> 00:23:45,266 [officer 1 on radio] All I know is someone's knocking in here. 460 00:23:45,367 --> 00:23:47,467 Well, I was the first suspect. 461 00:23:47,567 --> 00:23:49,700 He said, "Captain is going to take you 462 00:23:49,767 --> 00:23:55,900 to the state police post in Bay City, Michigan, for a lie detector test." 463 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:01,467 [Steve] Both boys were prime suspects and subject to polygraph test. 464 00:24:01,467 --> 00:24:04,600 And life at the Hell House was only about to get worse. 465 00:24:08,066 --> 00:24:12,600 By early 1975, the unexplained activity at the Hell House 466 00:24:12,667 --> 00:24:15,967 went from bad to terrifying. 467 00:24:15,967 --> 00:24:17,667 [Davis speaking] 468 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:31,667 [Steve] The nightly knocking and pounding turned into violent blasts. 469 00:24:31,734 --> 00:24:33,767 [Davis speaking] 470 00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:48,600 [Steve] While the paranormal activity continued to escalate, 471 00:24:48,667 --> 00:24:51,367 the polygraph results came back, 472 00:24:51,467 --> 00:24:56,000 officially clearing the family of any involvement in the strange happenings. 473 00:24:56,066 --> 00:24:57,367 [Davis speaking] 474 00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:03,300 [Terry] And after that, we had lot of those voices. 475 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:11,100 [Duane] It said several times it's going to kill you. 476 00:25:11,166 --> 00:25:15,567 Just the voice just came like out of nowhere through the house. 477 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:19,767 "I'm going to kill your family!" 478 00:25:19,867 --> 00:25:25,367 I mean, to this day, I still... I can still hear that voice, 479 00:25:25,467 --> 00:25:28,500 and it just scared the living crap out of me. 480 00:25:28,567 --> 00:25:31,800 But a lot of people would just say, "We'd get the hell out of there 481 00:25:31,867 --> 00:25:34,600 and never... never go back," you know. 482 00:25:34,667 --> 00:25:36,445 But now we were fighters and we had our faith and we thought, 483 00:25:36,445 --> 00:25:39,367 But now we were fighters and we had our faith and we thought, 484 00:25:39,367 --> 00:25:42,300 "God will, you know, take us through this." 485 00:25:43,467 --> 00:25:47,567 [Vicki] They were tortured for so many years, 486 00:25:47,567 --> 00:25:49,967 seems like they were robbed of life. 487 00:25:51,667 --> 00:25:53,367 But I hope they do get closure. 488 00:26:06,867 --> 00:26:09,767 [Steve] The local police finally threw their hands up. 489 00:26:09,767 --> 00:26:11,333 They simply couldn't figure out 490 00:26:11,333 --> 00:26:14,900 what was causing the strange activity at the Pomeraning home. 491 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,734 We didn't really have a lot of investigative equipment. 492 00:26:18,734 --> 00:26:22,266 Matter of fact, we turned to the state police a lot in those years 493 00:26:22,266 --> 00:26:24,367 because they had all the technology. 494 00:26:24,367 --> 00:26:26,000 It amazes me. 495 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:31,266 I mean, literally cutting-edge technology of this time was used on this case. 496 00:26:31,367 --> 00:26:34,266 [Steve] The Michigan State Police enlisted investigators 497 00:26:34,266 --> 00:26:36,445 to search for logical explanations. 498 00:26:36,445 --> 00:26:37,100 to search for logical explanations. 499 00:26:37,166 --> 00:26:41,900 The power company, Bell Telephone, Dow Chemical, the FAA, 500 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,100 the US Geological Survey, brought out seismographs. 501 00:26:46,166 --> 00:26:48,867 The state police did a full sweep of the home 502 00:26:48,867 --> 00:26:52,100 looking for any trace of foul play. 503 00:26:52,166 --> 00:26:56,767 Officers even moved in to monitor the home 24/7. 504 00:26:56,867 --> 00:26:59,467 Yet no one found any explanation 505 00:26:59,567 --> 00:27:04,266 for the strange knocks and blasts tormenting the family. 506 00:27:04,367 --> 00:27:06,445 The Pomeranings are growing desperate 507 00:27:06,445 --> 00:27:06,900 The Pomeranings are growing desperate 508 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,967 and the state police quietly acknowledge 509 00:27:09,967 --> 00:27:12,600 what many had already suspected, 510 00:27:12,667 --> 00:27:16,300 that there was something paranormal happening in the home. 511 00:27:16,367 --> 00:27:20,867 [Charles] I believe, uh, state police called in a paranormal expert, 512 00:27:20,867 --> 00:27:24,000 but I had never heard of that being done 513 00:27:24,066 --> 00:27:26,266 by a police agency. 514 00:27:26,266 --> 00:27:29,667 I'll give the police department, the sheriff's department credit. 515 00:27:29,734 --> 00:27:30,767 They came out every night. 516 00:27:30,867 --> 00:27:32,400 You know, they did everything. 517 00:27:32,467 --> 00:27:35,500 -Yeah. -[Terry] And one of the officers 518 00:27:35,567 --> 00:27:36,445 told my dad that he knew this guy that worked 519 00:27:36,445 --> 00:27:38,467 told my dad that he knew this guy that worked 520 00:27:38,567 --> 00:27:40,600 with one of these spirit boards. 521 00:27:42,767 --> 00:27:44,367 My dad said, "Well, okay." 522 00:27:45,467 --> 00:27:47,000 He came home. 523 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:50,867 The spirit will communicate to us through the letters on the board. 524 00:27:50,867 --> 00:27:52,100 Let the spirit take over. 525 00:27:54,967 --> 00:27:56,266 First letter is K. 526 00:28:00,767 --> 00:28:02,100 That's an N. 527 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,445 I. 528 00:28:06,445 --> 00:28:07,100 I. 529 00:28:11,166 --> 00:28:12,600 F. 530 00:28:16,266 --> 00:28:18,500 E. Knife. 531 00:28:19,667 --> 00:28:21,000 Knife? 532 00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:22,400 Knife, what's that supposed to mean? 533 00:28:23,367 --> 00:28:24,800 Look out! 534 00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:29,800 [Terry] It was a big knife, and it came out of that knife block, 535 00:28:29,867 --> 00:28:31,867 like at 50 miles an hour. 536 00:28:31,967 --> 00:28:35,100 I mean, it just... If someone had been in that area, 537 00:28:35,166 --> 00:28:36,445 they would have gotten hurt real bad or killed. 538 00:28:36,445 --> 00:28:36,967 they would have gotten hurt real bad or killed. 539 00:28:37,967 --> 00:28:39,867 It was just unreal. 540 00:28:39,867 --> 00:28:43,667 I mean, you'd have to see it to believe it. 541 00:28:43,767 --> 00:28:46,467 We even asked our pastor to, you know, 542 00:28:46,467 --> 00:28:49,767 come to our house and bless the house. 543 00:28:49,867 --> 00:28:52,000 And he would not come to our house. 544 00:28:52,066 --> 00:28:57,100 So it ended up the priest from the Catholic church. 545 00:28:57,166 --> 00:29:02,667 He came out to our house and blessed the inside with holy water and outside. 546 00:29:02,734 --> 00:29:06,445 And after he did that, all hell really broke loose that night. 547 00:29:06,445 --> 00:29:06,867 And after he did that, all hell really broke loose that night. 548 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,100 Things would be tossed across the room that they didn't touch, 549 00:29:13,166 --> 00:29:15,066 more things and more things. 550 00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:19,567 [Terry] It was hard on everybody, and especially my parents. 551 00:29:19,567 --> 00:29:23,800 This evil was just constantly in the house. 552 00:29:23,867 --> 00:29:25,000 [Duane] I mean, we prayed about it. 553 00:29:25,066 --> 00:29:27,367 And the more we prayed, the worse it got. 554 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,767 [Steve] It was now clear to the family that this evil wasn't going anywhere. 555 00:29:34,767 --> 00:29:36,445 It was, in fact, determined to drive them out of their family home. 556 00:29:36,445 --> 00:29:39,200 It was, in fact, determined to drive them out of their family home. 557 00:29:40,166 --> 00:29:41,834 But why? 558 00:29:41,834 --> 00:29:46,800 These puzzles seem as impossible to piece together as shattered glass. 559 00:29:46,867 --> 00:29:52,567 So with no options left, the Michigan State Police do something unprecedented. 560 00:29:52,667 --> 00:29:54,734 With funding from an anonymous donor, 561 00:29:54,734 --> 00:29:58,767 they reached out to the parapsychology lab at Duke University, 562 00:29:58,867 --> 00:30:03,200 run by world-renowned parapsychologist, William Roll. 563 00:30:03,266 --> 00:30:06,445 His group had investigated the most famous poltergeist cases in history. 564 00:30:06,445 --> 00:30:09,000 His group had investigated the most famous poltergeist cases in history. 565 00:30:09,066 --> 00:30:10,967 I went to the Hoyt Public Library 566 00:30:10,967 --> 00:30:14,467 to meet with William Roll's associate Jerry Solfvin, 567 00:30:14,567 --> 00:30:18,734 who investigated the Hell House in 1975. 568 00:30:18,734 --> 00:30:20,867 I arrived on February 7. 569 00:30:23,367 --> 00:30:26,100 State police drove me to the house. 570 00:30:26,166 --> 00:30:28,300 [Steve] So you actually stayed with them, right? 571 00:30:28,367 --> 00:30:29,467 [Jerry] Moved in. 572 00:30:29,467 --> 00:30:31,467 So when I first arrived, 573 00:30:31,567 --> 00:30:33,567 uh, the first thing I did is I mapped out the house 574 00:30:33,667 --> 00:30:36,066 and I made a two-dimensional model. 575 00:30:36,066 --> 00:30:36,445 And I interviewed people, "Where did this happen?" 576 00:30:36,445 --> 00:30:38,767 And I interviewed people, "Where did this happen?" 577 00:30:38,767 --> 00:30:41,166 And they would point on the map and make a mark 578 00:30:41,166 --> 00:30:43,300 because there's so many things that happened 579 00:30:43,367 --> 00:30:44,767 and so many witnesses. 580 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:52,000 Before I arrived, it started with banging, then the explosions. 581 00:30:52,066 --> 00:30:54,367 But then it goes to the next level. 582 00:30:54,367 --> 00:30:58,367 Object movement, the lamps, 583 00:30:58,467 --> 00:31:01,000 figurine, the fruit basket, 584 00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:05,867 the flower basket, the cup of hot tea, and a pillow. 585 00:31:05,967 --> 00:31:06,445 The pillow, that... that's a big incident. Wasn't it? 586 00:31:06,445 --> 00:31:08,100 The pillow, that... that's a big incident. Wasn't it? 587 00:31:08,166 --> 00:31:10,000 It attacked Mabel. 588 00:31:34,266 --> 00:31:36,445 [telephone rings thrice] 589 00:31:36,445 --> 00:31:36,467 [telephone rings thrice] 590 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,867 [Steve] According to the notes from Jerry's files, 591 00:31:49,867 --> 00:31:53,166 Terry, Duane, and his two adult cousins were present 592 00:31:53,266 --> 00:31:55,000 when the attack occurred. 593 00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:58,734 It took all four of them to save Mabel from suffocating. 594 00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:00,500 I was on the way. 595 00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:06,100 My goodness, this case was exploding with phenomena. 596 00:32:06,166 --> 00:32:06,445 [Steve] Like everyone else who came to evict this unknown horror, 597 00:32:06,445 --> 00:32:09,734 [Steve] Like everyone else who came to evict this unknown horror, 598 00:32:09,734 --> 00:32:13,066 it wasn't long before it turned on Jerry. 599 00:32:13,066 --> 00:32:17,266 [Jerry] When I took a shower in the morning, I took a towel, 600 00:32:17,367 --> 00:32:21,000 tossed it over the sliding glass doors, 601 00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:22,900 and I just left it there to dry. 602 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,967 And sometime later, I said, "Mabel, did you smell something?" 603 00:32:27,967 --> 00:32:31,367 And I saw smoke coming around the edge of the bathroom door. 604 00:32:31,367 --> 00:32:35,367 So I opened it and there was, uh, my towel. 605 00:32:36,767 --> 00:32:38,166 Never seen a fire like that. 606 00:32:39,166 --> 00:32:40,200 I was stunned. 607 00:32:40,266 --> 00:32:42,400 I was like deer in the headlights. 608 00:32:42,467 --> 00:32:44,500 "My God, that's incredible." 609 00:32:44,567 --> 00:32:46,266 Now, that fire was also investigated, 610 00:32:46,266 --> 00:32:48,166 correct, by the, by the State Fire Marshal? 611 00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:49,667 [Jerry] He did. 612 00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:53,500 But he said there was nothing that could be investigated. 613 00:32:53,567 --> 00:32:58,467 That was an amazing thing. This doesn't follow any physical laws. 614 00:32:58,467 --> 00:33:01,967 And secondly, that it might have been aimed at me. 615 00:33:01,967 --> 00:33:04,367 How many fires took place in the week you were there? 616 00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:05,667 -Three. -Three fires? 617 00:33:05,734 --> 00:33:06,445 Three fires. 618 00:33:06,445 --> 00:33:06,867 Three fires. 619 00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:10,600 The second fire would be that roll of toilet paper. 620 00:33:10,667 --> 00:33:15,667 And the report says language that when I first read it, blew my mind, 621 00:33:15,767 --> 00:33:18,000 "humanly impossible". 622 00:33:18,066 --> 00:33:21,000 -This is a State Fire Marshal. -[Jerry] That's right. 623 00:33:21,066 --> 00:33:23,166 For any season, State Fire Marshal 624 00:33:23,166 --> 00:33:25,967 -declares the origin of a fire... -Yeah, yeah. 625 00:33:25,967 --> 00:33:27,667 ..."Humanly impossible" in nature. 626 00:33:27,767 --> 00:33:31,567 Yeah. It's really amazing. It's really amazing stuff. 627 00:33:31,667 --> 00:33:35,300 [Steve] Whoever or whatever was targeting the family 628 00:33:35,367 --> 00:33:36,445 was growing more deadly by the day. 629 00:33:36,445 --> 00:33:38,300 was growing more deadly by the day. 630 00:33:38,367 --> 00:33:40,900 And finally, the third fire occurred. 631 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,867 I brought with me a number of electronic devices. 632 00:33:44,967 --> 00:33:47,266 Different kinds of tape recorders. 633 00:33:47,266 --> 00:33:50,900 You know, there's one part of this that I listen to. 634 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,100 This is on when the third fire occurred. 635 00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:58,367 -So the third fire was... is on one of these recordings. -[Jerry] Yes. Yes. 636 00:33:58,367 --> 00:34:00,867 [Steve] Thanks to a tip from Professor Solfvin, 637 00:34:00,867 --> 00:34:04,400 I listened through nearly 30 hours of audio 638 00:34:04,467 --> 00:34:06,445 and eventually found the most terrifying moment caught on tape. 639 00:34:06,445 --> 00:34:09,266 and eventually found the most terrifying moment caught on tape. 640 00:34:10,367 --> 00:34:11,867 I'm playing it for the brothers 641 00:34:11,867 --> 00:34:14,000 and their neighbors, the Buckleys. 642 00:34:14,066 --> 00:34:16,667 Take a listen, and I think you'll understand the reason 643 00:34:16,734 --> 00:34:18,400 I'm sitting here today with you. 644 00:34:18,467 --> 00:34:23,266 It's the first time they've heard these sounds in nearly 50 years. 645 00:34:51,967 --> 00:34:53,400 [indistinct whispering] 646 00:34:56,967 --> 00:34:57,900 [growling] 647 00:35:03,233 --> 00:35:04,734 [indistinct whispering] 648 00:35:08,867 --> 00:35:10,266 [Mabel] Duane. 649 00:35:11,867 --> 00:35:13,233 [explosion] 650 00:35:17,266 --> 00:35:18,934 [siren wailing] 651 00:35:25,266 --> 00:35:26,967 [siren wailing] 652 00:35:36,634 --> 00:35:38,967 -Oh, my God, Steve. -That's amazing. 653 00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:42,333 Wow. 654 00:35:43,967 --> 00:35:47,867 Wow. Kind of brought chills remembering. 655 00:35:47,967 --> 00:35:51,233 -I hear this and just, you know? -Yeah. 656 00:35:52,767 --> 00:35:54,033 Yeah. 657 00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:55,567 Yeah. 658 00:35:57,333 --> 00:35:58,900 Yeah. 659 00:36:00,467 --> 00:36:02,308 I guess probably scares you 'cause that was close to our home, you know? 660 00:36:02,308 --> 00:36:04,767 I guess probably scares you 'cause that was close to our home, you know? 661 00:36:04,867 --> 00:36:06,000 [Vicki] Yeah. 662 00:36:06,066 --> 00:36:09,367 I looked out my west window and I could see the smoke 663 00:36:09,433 --> 00:36:13,066 and Mabel and the boys was standing out in the yard, 664 00:36:13,133 --> 00:36:17,133 and it was bad enough that they had to leave their home. 665 00:36:17,133 --> 00:36:22,433 [Steve] Like the other two blazes, the State Fire Marshal was called in to investigate. 666 00:36:22,433 --> 00:36:25,567 That report is here from the Michigan State Fire Marshal. 667 00:36:25,667 --> 00:36:27,367 I'm just going to read this. 668 00:36:27,467 --> 00:36:28,967 Um, "It should be noted that 669 00:36:29,033 --> 00:36:32,166 two members of the Duke University Cyclical Research Center Foundation 670 00:36:32,266 --> 00:36:32,308 have been conducting extensive testing at the residence 671 00:36:32,308 --> 00:36:35,233 have been conducting extensive testing at the residence 672 00:36:35,233 --> 00:36:37,467 to determine the source of the strange noises 673 00:36:37,533 --> 00:36:39,767 and strange occurrences taking place there. 674 00:36:39,867 --> 00:36:42,166 It is felt by all parties involved, 675 00:36:42,266 --> 00:36:46,266 that there is some supernatural phenomenon occurring at this location. 676 00:36:47,467 --> 00:36:50,266 [indistinct whispering] 677 00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:53,667 And then it also could be the cause of the fires which have occurred." 678 00:36:55,367 --> 00:36:56,934 That's a bold statement. 679 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,133 Especially with state police. 680 00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:01,367 They called in a paranormal expert. 681 00:37:01,433 --> 00:37:02,308 He says, "It's a poltergeist." 682 00:37:02,308 --> 00:37:03,667 He says, "It's a poltergeist." 683 00:37:03,734 --> 00:37:06,166 I said, "What the hell is a poltergeist?" 684 00:37:06,233 --> 00:37:08,133 I just want to get really clear with you. 685 00:37:08,133 --> 00:37:11,033 What exactly is a poltergeist? 686 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:16,667 When we say poltergeist, it brings to mind one thing. 687 00:37:16,767 --> 00:37:18,634 The anomalous phenomena. 688 00:37:18,634 --> 00:37:21,433 It's a burst of them over a short period of time. 689 00:37:23,533 --> 00:37:24,800 It's unexplainable, 690 00:37:24,867 --> 00:37:29,433 but that is paired with the social psychological setting, 691 00:37:29,433 --> 00:37:32,308 and it's usually a family going through some sort of a stress. 692 00:37:32,308 --> 00:37:33,533 and it's usually a family going through some sort of a stress. 693 00:37:34,533 --> 00:37:40,734 About 80% of cases have a distinct individual 694 00:37:40,734 --> 00:37:44,433 who are the focus or the agent of the activity. 695 00:37:44,433 --> 00:37:47,667 I see. Okay. So at first, you're identifying the anomalous force? 696 00:37:47,734 --> 00:37:49,333 -[Jerry] Yes. -Then you're looking for the agent? 697 00:37:49,333 --> 00:37:50,533 Right. Right. 698 00:37:51,567 --> 00:37:53,233 [Steve] Thanks to Professor Solfvin, 699 00:37:53,233 --> 00:37:56,066 I now know that identifying the agent, 700 00:37:56,133 --> 00:38:00,634 the center of all the poltergeist activity, has to be our next step. 701 00:38:03,467 --> 00:38:09,567 So, Cindy, the other night you've said a statement about extreme poltergeist activity. 702 00:38:09,634 --> 00:38:10,967 Right. 703 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,100 This literally is one of the most prolific poltergeist cases, 704 00:38:14,166 --> 00:38:15,667 poltergeist-like activity. 705 00:38:15,734 --> 00:38:18,867 But see, now we're facing, you know, with poltergeist activity, 706 00:38:18,934 --> 00:38:22,934 we have to look at who is fueling this activity 707 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,367 or what dynamic within the family is creating enough chaos 708 00:38:28,433 --> 00:38:30,367 to support poltergeist activity. 709 00:38:30,433 --> 00:38:32,308 -Well, tonight I want to go into the house. -[Cindy] Mmm-hmm. 710 00:38:32,308 --> 00:38:33,567 -Well, tonight I want to go into the house. -[Cindy] Mmm-hmm. 711 00:38:33,634 --> 00:38:34,867 We actually go into the house. 712 00:38:34,967 --> 00:38:37,166 I want to take some of these items in the home, 713 00:38:37,233 --> 00:38:39,533 basically by proxy bringing the family back, 714 00:38:39,533 --> 00:38:43,567 their voices and just see what happens when we bring these trigger objects in. 715 00:38:43,667 --> 00:38:45,834 -[Cindy] Yeah. -But I have no idea what to expect. 716 00:38:45,834 --> 00:38:47,433 Yeah, I know. 717 00:38:47,433 --> 00:38:50,166 Well, I guess we have our work cut out for us on this one, Steve, right? 718 00:38:50,233 --> 00:38:52,467 [Steve] Everybody, the crew, ourselves, 719 00:38:52,567 --> 00:38:54,667 we have to be beyond careful. 720 00:38:55,767 --> 00:38:57,834 It's time to figure out what caused this poltergeist. 721 00:39:05,066 --> 00:39:09,033 [Steve] Tonight, Cindy and I will meet up at the Hell House. 722 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:11,567 Using projectors and audio recordings, 723 00:39:11,667 --> 00:39:14,166 we'll be attempting to virtually bring back 724 00:39:14,233 --> 00:39:18,467 the family in the house for the first time in decades. 725 00:39:18,567 --> 00:39:20,533 -You ready? -Yeah. Let's do it. 726 00:39:20,533 --> 00:39:22,367 -I'm gonna grab some gear. -[Cindy] All right. 727 00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:33,367 [door creaking] 728 00:39:33,867 --> 00:39:35,266 [Cindy] You got it? 729 00:39:43,667 --> 00:39:46,467 There is something menacing here. 730 00:39:46,567 --> 00:39:47,634 You're already picking that up? 731 00:39:47,634 --> 00:39:50,033 Oh, yeah, for sure. It's like, game on. 732 00:39:51,567 --> 00:39:55,467 [Steve] In order to reawaken the entity lurking inside the home, 733 00:39:55,567 --> 00:39:57,967 I'm setting up several trigger objects, 734 00:39:58,033 --> 00:40:01,005 pictures, projected photos, and audio recordings from 1975. 735 00:40:01,005 --> 00:40:03,767 pictures, projected photos, and audio recordings from 1975. 736 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,634 If whatever happened out here is really attached to this family, 737 00:40:09,634 --> 00:40:11,133 I have no idea what's going to happen. 738 00:40:11,133 --> 00:40:12,266 -[Cindy] Okay. -[Steve] All right. 739 00:40:12,333 --> 00:40:14,100 -I'm gonna grab some gear. -[Cindy] All right. 740 00:40:15,667 --> 00:40:17,233 [Steve] We're here right now. 741 00:40:17,266 --> 00:40:21,433 Let me show you one of the items that I have for tonight's investigation. 742 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,367 [Cindy] Oh, this is the couple. 743 00:40:28,166 --> 00:40:29,533 Who's Harry? 744 00:40:30,867 --> 00:40:31,005 Harold. This is Harold. 745 00:40:31,005 --> 00:40:32,634 Harold. This is Harold. 746 00:40:32,634 --> 00:40:33,667 -This is Mr. Pomeraning. -Oh! 747 00:40:33,767 --> 00:40:35,867 [Steve] Oh, my God, Cindy. 748 00:40:35,967 --> 00:40:38,667 [Cindy] My heart is exploding. 749 00:40:38,734 --> 00:40:40,934 You just see... something happened. 750 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,133 Did he have a heart attack? 751 00:40:42,166 --> 00:40:43,667 -What happened? -This man died of a heart attack. 752 00:40:43,734 --> 00:40:45,433 That's it. He... that's... Okay. 753 00:40:45,433 --> 00:40:46,734 And he went before... 754 00:40:46,734 --> 00:40:48,934 -[Steve] Yes. -Before her. Um... 755 00:40:52,567 --> 00:40:54,266 She's so sad. 756 00:40:54,333 --> 00:40:57,333 And I keep feeling it has to do with the boys. 757 00:40:57,333 --> 00:40:59,667 [device 1 chiming] 758 00:40:59,734 --> 00:41:01,005 [device 2 chiming] 759 00:41:01,005 --> 00:41:01,867 [device 2 chiming] 760 00:41:01,967 --> 00:41:03,166 [Steve] Oh, my God. 761 00:41:04,767 --> 00:41:07,000 Something is definitely moving in the adjacent room. 762 00:41:08,133 --> 00:41:10,467 The boys' room, as a matter of fact. 763 00:41:10,567 --> 00:41:14,166 As you talk about the boys, this is Terry Pomeraning. 764 00:41:14,233 --> 00:41:16,000 [Cindy] Terry! I got to talk about Terry. 765 00:41:16,066 --> 00:41:20,867 That kid, he wants to protect the mom or take care of her. 766 00:41:20,934 --> 00:41:22,734 [Steve] He absolutely adored his mother, 767 00:41:22,734 --> 00:41:25,867 and his mother, Mabel, went through a lot of trauma here, you know. 768 00:41:25,934 --> 00:41:28,333 What was happening here was wearing her down to nothing. 769 00:41:28,333 --> 00:41:29,667 -I see-- -[device 1 chiming] 770 00:41:32,433 --> 00:41:34,166 That is really strong. 771 00:41:35,767 --> 00:41:37,767 [device 2 chiming] 772 00:41:37,867 --> 00:41:42,767 [Steve] Each time Cindy taps into the family members, the entity responds. 773 00:41:42,867 --> 00:41:45,266 The trigger items seem to be working. 774 00:41:45,333 --> 00:41:49,734 It's time to up the stakes and bring our most powerful trigger object 775 00:41:49,734 --> 00:41:51,934 back to the Hell House. 776 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,767 So I'm gonna play some of those audio recordings that I got from that university. 777 00:41:56,867 --> 00:41:58,266 -Okay. -And these are incidents, of course, 778 00:41:58,333 --> 00:41:59,767 that happened here in this house. 779 00:42:07,367 --> 00:42:09,233 Is it the fire we're hearing? 780 00:42:09,233 --> 00:42:10,567 Fire, explosions. 781 00:42:13,066 --> 00:42:15,166 [Cindy] I just keep hearing, "He didn't do it. 782 00:42:15,233 --> 00:42:16,266 He didn't do it." 783 00:42:16,367 --> 00:42:18,100 Did they blame Duane for the fire? 784 00:42:18,166 --> 00:42:20,467 Duane was the suspect, I believe, in everything. 785 00:42:20,967 --> 00:42:21,967 He didn't do it. 786 00:42:24,033 --> 00:42:27,266 I'm hearing, Steve, it was the man behind him. 787 00:42:27,333 --> 00:42:28,433 [device chiming] 788 00:42:33,533 --> 00:42:35,233 [Steve] What is happening right now? 789 00:42:35,233 --> 00:42:39,467 Actually, uh, I think maybe we ought to stand over here for a moment. 790 00:42:39,533 --> 00:42:44,967 There's quite a horrific story regarding a knife block... 791 00:42:45,033 --> 00:42:46,667 [Harold] Look out! 792 00:42:46,767 --> 00:42:48,467 [Steve] ...lunged at a police officer. 793 00:42:50,266 --> 00:42:51,567 That's the spot. 794 00:42:51,634 --> 00:42:53,533 Okay. Something is right there, Cindy. 795 00:42:53,533 --> 00:42:55,634 [motion sensor chiming] 796 00:42:56,667 --> 00:42:58,000 Motion sensor. 797 00:42:58,066 --> 00:42:59,634 [devices chiming] 798 00:43:03,367 --> 00:43:04,867 I feel like the walls are shaking. 799 00:43:12,467 --> 00:43:14,033 [devices chiming] 800 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,367 Motion sensor. 801 00:43:20,333 --> 00:43:22,734 -This room has a lot of paranormal activity. -[Steve] Yes. 802 00:43:22,734 --> 00:43:26,367 It's a lot of poltergeist activity. 803 00:43:26,467 --> 00:43:29,166 When I stand here, I feel like there's an earthquake happening. 804 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,033 [device chiming] 805 00:43:35,467 --> 00:43:36,667 Why do... 806 00:43:38,467 --> 00:43:40,467 Did Duane go to prison or something? 807 00:43:40,567 --> 00:43:42,166 Did he get in trouble with the law? 808 00:43:42,233 --> 00:43:46,433 Both boys were suspects, and Duane was considered the number one suspect. 809 00:43:46,433 --> 00:43:48,367 He has demons. 810 00:43:48,467 --> 00:43:51,066 [Steve] Yeah, Duane was very troubled. 811 00:43:51,133 --> 00:43:52,634 -[Steve on recorder] Motion sensor. -Oh, my God, 812 00:43:52,634 --> 00:43:53,934 the Ovilus just went off. 813 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,166 [Cindy] What did it say? 814 00:43:56,467 --> 00:43:59,567 [automated voice] Son, wrong, devil. 815 00:44:00,233 --> 00:44:01,266 [gasps] 816 00:44:01,367 --> 00:44:04,166 [Steve] Son, wrong, devil. 817 00:44:07,033 --> 00:44:08,377 That thing just fired off response after response. 818 00:44:08,377 --> 00:44:09,667 That thing just fired off response after response. 819 00:44:11,867 --> 00:44:13,734 Steve, can I ask you something? 820 00:44:13,734 --> 00:44:19,433 Is there any chance somebody did some sort of a sacrificial thing with an animal? 821 00:44:22,166 --> 00:44:24,567 I'm seeing something like that. 822 00:44:26,166 --> 00:44:28,433 Is it possible? Yes. 823 00:44:28,433 --> 00:44:30,266 I wouldn't take that off the table. 824 00:44:33,767 --> 00:44:35,834 I'm gonna tell you exactly what I just heard. 825 00:44:38,467 --> 00:44:41,367 There was a presence of spirit... 826 00:44:43,266 --> 00:44:47,433 that had influence somehow on, I believe, Duane. 827 00:44:49,367 --> 00:44:54,834 I believe Duane could sense this spirit, this man, but I feel it shape-shifting. 828 00:44:54,834 --> 00:44:58,367 I'm not saying it's actually-- I don't know yet. 829 00:44:58,433 --> 00:45:02,634 I feel that Duane would speak to people that weren't there. 830 00:45:04,166 --> 00:45:08,377 He would be talking to spirits that nobody else could see, 831 00:45:08,377 --> 00:45:09,166 He would be talking to spirits that nobody else could see, 832 00:45:09,266 --> 00:45:11,033 but he would be talking to them. 833 00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:12,734 Something was leading him. 834 00:45:12,734 --> 00:45:14,834 [device chiming] 835 00:45:16,033 --> 00:45:18,367 [Steve] My opinion right now, it's toying with us, 836 00:45:18,467 --> 00:45:22,033 because it's showing us, "I can manipulate everything." 837 00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:25,634 I feel like the more like you're tuning in, tapping in, it's like-- 838 00:45:25,634 --> 00:45:29,333 It's so much that I don't even know where to begin 839 00:45:29,333 --> 00:45:31,934 other than I... I... like, I'm getting so much stuff 840 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,066 and it's coming at me from all directions. 841 00:45:34,133 --> 00:45:36,266 [devices chiming] 842 00:45:36,333 --> 00:45:37,767 Please back off! 843 00:45:37,834 --> 00:45:38,377 I can't even, like, think. 844 00:45:38,377 --> 00:45:39,133 I can't even, like, think. 845 00:45:41,133 --> 00:45:42,567 I need to step outside for a second 846 00:45:42,634 --> 00:45:44,834 because I can't work with all this stuff going off. 847 00:45:47,533 --> 00:45:50,734 [Steve] The evil entity is trying to force us out of the house 848 00:45:50,734 --> 00:45:55,634 to stop Cindy from tapping in and getting a clear vision. 849 00:45:55,634 --> 00:45:58,033 She must be getting close to the truth. 850 00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:01,367 So we're taking the investigation back outside, 851 00:46:01,433 --> 00:46:05,066 where Cindy is going to try a technique called scrying, 852 00:46:05,133 --> 00:46:07,934 using a mirror to see beyond the veil. 853 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:08,377 I'm very interested to see what happens when you try this, 854 00:46:08,377 --> 00:46:11,100 I'm very interested to see what happens when you try this, 855 00:46:11,166 --> 00:46:13,767 especially how tapped in you're to this land. 856 00:46:13,834 --> 00:46:14,967 Yeah. 857 00:46:15,033 --> 00:46:18,166 So really, I'm just going to relax my gaze 858 00:46:18,266 --> 00:46:21,567 and really allow whatever impressions come to me. 859 00:46:21,634 --> 00:46:23,867 It's gonna take me a second to kind of get into it, 860 00:46:23,967 --> 00:46:25,634 but then I'll... I'll get going. 861 00:46:25,634 --> 00:46:27,266 -Okay? -Okay. Absolutely. 862 00:46:27,333 --> 00:46:28,533 Okay. 863 00:46:35,033 --> 00:46:36,433 [exhales sharply] 864 00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:38,377 This is not what I expected to start seeing, 865 00:46:38,377 --> 00:46:40,166 This is not what I expected to start seeing, 866 00:46:40,233 --> 00:46:43,967 but I keep seeing a house having its own life force. 867 00:46:45,767 --> 00:46:47,834 It's like the perfect storm, Steve. 868 00:46:47,834 --> 00:46:49,867 Underneath here, I feel like, I don't know 869 00:46:49,934 --> 00:46:53,133 if there's a rock bed or some sort of elementals 870 00:46:53,133 --> 00:46:54,834 around here but it drives it. 871 00:46:54,834 --> 00:46:57,867 -It fuels it. -Okay. 872 00:46:57,934 --> 00:47:01,333 [Cindy] The land is not cursed, but there is something... 873 00:47:01,333 --> 00:47:05,133 there's something fueling, that fuels the poltergeist activity. 874 00:47:05,133 --> 00:47:08,377 It... it fuels... maybe it's elemental, I don't understand, 875 00:47:08,377 --> 00:47:08,567 It... it fuels... maybe it's elemental, I don't understand, 876 00:47:08,667 --> 00:47:10,100 but it's like... 877 00:47:12,033 --> 00:47:15,133 I feel like all these men marching towards me, now that's so wild. 878 00:47:15,133 --> 00:47:17,934 Like, I'm looking over here and I just feel all of these spirits 879 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,667 just walking towards me. 880 00:47:19,767 --> 00:47:22,166 There's been shadow figures scene, there's been faces. 881 00:47:22,233 --> 00:47:23,667 [Cindy] They're everywhere! 882 00:47:23,734 --> 00:47:26,133 And I'm looking and I see them, not one. 883 00:47:26,133 --> 00:47:28,000 I'm seeing more than one. 884 00:47:28,066 --> 00:47:32,000 I need to come back again 'cause I'm like... I'm at capacity, 885 00:47:32,066 --> 00:47:34,333 but there's a piece I'm missing. 886 00:47:34,333 --> 00:47:35,467 We gotta get to the bottom of it. 887 00:47:35,567 --> 00:47:36,567 We gotta get to the bottom of it. 888 00:47:36,667 --> 00:47:38,377 We've got to get to the bottom of it 889 00:47:38,377 --> 00:47:38,433 We've got to get to the bottom of it 890 00:47:38,433 --> 00:47:40,367 'cause we want to find that piece. 891 00:47:49,467 --> 00:47:51,066 [Steve] Last night's investigation, 892 00:47:51,133 --> 00:47:53,233 -that was chaotic, extremely chaotic. -Mmm-hmm. 893 00:47:53,233 --> 00:47:56,166 [Steve] I mean, I wondered what would happen bringing these objects in, 894 00:47:56,266 --> 00:47:59,767 but I never expected everything to go off constantly. 895 00:47:59,834 --> 00:48:01,433 [devices chiming] 896 00:48:01,433 --> 00:48:03,934 [Cindy] Yeah, for me, it was a little bit of a nightmare. 897 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,667 This could be an accumulation of energy shooting around, an intelligent energy, right? 898 00:48:09,734 --> 00:48:12,867 -Yeah, a poltergeist, perhaps. -[Cindy] A poltergeist. 899 00:48:12,967 --> 00:48:14,403 In this particular situation, I question whether or not this is something else, 900 00:48:14,403 --> 00:48:17,367 In this particular situation, I question whether or not this is something else, 901 00:48:17,433 --> 00:48:21,266 because last night, I felt some connection to Duane 902 00:48:21,333 --> 00:48:23,667 having the ability to communicate with spirits. 903 00:48:24,867 --> 00:48:27,066 Remember when I saw something with animals 904 00:48:27,133 --> 00:48:30,166 and I'm seeing blood and I feel like occult activity? 905 00:48:30,233 --> 00:48:31,634 Occult activity. 906 00:48:31,667 --> 00:48:33,867 Remember when I said, "Is there anything with animal sacrifice?" 907 00:48:33,967 --> 00:48:39,867 -Yeah. Yes. -I felt that he was influenced by the man behind him. 908 00:48:41,667 --> 00:48:44,403 So do they ever implicate Duane as being part of any occult practices? 909 00:48:44,403 --> 00:48:46,266 So do they ever implicate Duane as being part of any occult practices? 910 00:48:46,367 --> 00:48:48,066 No, not Duane. 911 00:48:48,133 --> 00:48:53,100 But there's a huge theory about occult activity in the surrounding area, 912 00:48:53,166 --> 00:48:57,133 an occult activity which could have contributed to the activity here. 913 00:48:57,133 --> 00:49:02,734 Let me show you a report here now that we're on the subject of occult activity. 914 00:49:02,734 --> 00:49:04,834 So the sheriff's department, 915 00:49:04,834 --> 00:49:08,867 they learn of a strange commune of people living in the woods... 916 00:49:08,967 --> 00:49:11,734 -Wow! -...doing weird things. 917 00:49:11,734 --> 00:49:14,403 [Steve] The report goes on to say, this commune of hippy types 918 00:49:14,403 --> 00:49:15,567 [Steve] The report goes on to say, this commune of hippy types 919 00:49:15,667 --> 00:49:17,934 were living in the woods nearby, 920 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:23,567 and it also noted that the information was withheld from the Pomeraning family. 921 00:49:23,667 --> 00:49:27,767 Another report states that Duane and Terry witnessed their neighbors 922 00:49:27,834 --> 00:49:32,567 and a group of strangers contorting as if worshiping the Sun, 923 00:49:32,667 --> 00:49:36,834 just before the barn behind the house caught fire. 924 00:49:36,834 --> 00:49:41,734 Evidence is mounting that an occult group centered around their next-door neighbors 925 00:49:41,734 --> 00:49:44,233 was haunting the family. 926 00:49:44,233 --> 00:49:44,403 Why was I seeing an image of Duane going out 927 00:49:44,403 --> 00:49:48,333 Why was I seeing an image of Duane going out 928 00:49:48,333 --> 00:49:51,867 and participating in these occult activities? 929 00:49:51,967 --> 00:49:56,100 Is it because he was the most influenced by this force? 930 00:49:56,166 --> 00:49:59,767 I think I may have the answer in a sense. 931 00:49:59,867 --> 00:50:01,767 Um, so I'm gonna tell you something. 932 00:50:01,834 --> 00:50:05,967 Duane doesn't remember, but at one point, 933 00:50:06,033 --> 00:50:10,133 in his words, and again, going back to the baseline reading, 934 00:50:10,133 --> 00:50:12,467 you said that we were being "Lured". 935 00:50:12,567 --> 00:50:14,403 -You've used that word specifically. -[Cindy] Yes. 936 00:50:14,403 --> 00:50:14,567 -You've used that word specifically. -[Cindy] Yes. 937 00:50:14,634 --> 00:50:20,767 Duane tells me that he was lured by this woman across the street to her home. 938 00:50:20,834 --> 00:50:22,433 To this day, Duane doesn't even really know... 939 00:50:22,433 --> 00:50:24,667 I went to their house, and I don't know how I got there. 940 00:50:24,734 --> 00:50:28,000 He never really had nothing to do with them from the start, really. 941 00:50:28,066 --> 00:50:30,567 And he started telling us that she cut his hair. 942 00:50:31,734 --> 00:50:33,533 He remembers nothing else. 943 00:50:33,533 --> 00:50:37,634 -Goes home, has a grand mal seizure that night. -[gasps] 944 00:50:38,166 --> 00:50:39,333 Wow. 945 00:50:39,333 --> 00:50:41,333 What was she doing? A ritual? 946 00:50:41,333 --> 00:50:43,233 He doesn't recall. 947 00:50:43,233 --> 00:50:44,403 We need to find out what happened to Duane that day. 948 00:50:44,403 --> 00:50:45,967 We need to find out what happened to Duane that day. 949 00:50:49,066 --> 00:50:54,166 [Steve] Urban legends about occult activity in Merrill have swirled for some time. 950 00:50:54,233 --> 00:50:56,266 But in light of these new reports, 951 00:50:56,367 --> 00:50:59,000 they take on a disturbing new meaning. 952 00:50:59,066 --> 00:51:01,734 There was some talk about a witch. 953 00:51:01,734 --> 00:51:04,734 "You know, there's a witch. She lives on Dice Road." 954 00:51:04,734 --> 00:51:08,734 Mabel fully believed that there was witchcraft going on, 955 00:51:08,734 --> 00:51:12,667 and she thought she knew who the witches were. 956 00:51:12,767 --> 00:51:14,403 [Bea] It was the fellow that lived across the corner from them. 957 00:51:14,403 --> 00:51:15,567 [Bea] It was the fellow that lived across the corner from them. 958 00:51:15,634 --> 00:51:17,567 Harold told me. He thought he was a warlock. 959 00:51:19,166 --> 00:51:22,467 [Terry] The new neighbor lady was always buying witchcraft books, 960 00:51:22,567 --> 00:51:25,433 going outside and doing all those different things 961 00:51:25,433 --> 00:51:27,967 with her hands and arms and looking up in the sky 962 00:51:28,033 --> 00:51:31,266 and talking away and... and screaming sometimes. 963 00:51:31,333 --> 00:51:33,266 The biggest thing that I remember 964 00:51:33,367 --> 00:51:38,367 is that she said she had been ordained as a witch. 965 00:51:38,467 --> 00:51:41,066 I truly believe she was a witch. 966 00:51:41,133 --> 00:51:42,867 [Duane] Yeah, she was definitely a witch 967 00:51:42,967 --> 00:51:44,403 because there was a lot of witchcraft in Merrill. 968 00:51:44,403 --> 00:51:44,867 because there was a lot of witchcraft in Merrill. 969 00:51:48,767 --> 00:51:52,467 [Steve] Tonight, after months of negotiating with its current owners, 970 00:51:52,533 --> 00:51:56,734 I finally got permission to enter the house across the street, 971 00:51:56,734 --> 00:51:59,266 where the witch once lived. 972 00:51:59,333 --> 00:52:02,133 If Terry and Duane agreed to enter the house with me, 973 00:52:02,133 --> 00:52:05,100 it may jog Duane's memory of that fateful day 974 00:52:05,166 --> 00:52:07,367 when he was lured to the witch's house, 975 00:52:07,467 --> 00:52:10,367 had his hair cut and then blacked out 976 00:52:10,467 --> 00:52:14,000 and had a grand mal seizure that nearly killed him. 977 00:52:15,634 --> 00:52:19,967 First, I meet up with them back at their old home, the Hell House. 978 00:52:21,467 --> 00:52:23,467 I can't imagine what it, you know, must feel like 979 00:52:23,533 --> 00:52:25,767 going back into this house, everything you guys dealt with, 980 00:52:25,867 --> 00:52:27,834 but I think we need these answers. 981 00:52:27,834 --> 00:52:29,533 -All right. We good? -Let's do it. 982 00:52:29,533 --> 00:52:30,767 All right, let's go, guys. 983 00:52:37,467 --> 00:52:39,033 Wow. 984 00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:41,433 [Terry] Oh, my God. 985 00:52:41,433 --> 00:52:43,867 Well, still brings back a lot of memories. 986 00:52:45,533 --> 00:52:49,533 Oh, hey, Terry, I'm doing another load of laundry, so I need your shirts. 987 00:52:49,533 --> 00:52:52,367 [Terry] I can just see my mom, you know, walking around in the house, 988 00:52:52,433 --> 00:52:55,634 you know, and, you know, just stuff like that. 989 00:52:57,266 --> 00:52:59,567 Still bringing back a lot. 990 00:52:59,667 --> 00:53:01,133 Yeah. 991 00:53:01,133 --> 00:53:03,033 -I've been on this case for a long time. -Yeah. 992 00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:05,266 You know, seven years, we've been talking on and off. 993 00:53:05,367 --> 00:53:06,567 I've been researching this. 994 00:53:07,834 --> 00:53:10,567 We all know the neighbor always comes up. 995 00:53:10,667 --> 00:53:13,667 You know, Duane, when you were lured over to the house, 996 00:53:13,767 --> 00:53:14,403 do you remember anything from that night? 997 00:53:14,403 --> 00:53:15,634 do you remember anything from that night? 998 00:53:15,634 --> 00:53:18,333 -No. -Even the smallest, vaguest memory whatsoever? 999 00:53:18,333 --> 00:53:19,567 I can't remember anything. 1000 00:53:19,667 --> 00:53:20,667 [Steve] Nothing? 1001 00:53:20,734 --> 00:53:22,867 It's a blank, like it was magic. 1002 00:53:24,433 --> 00:53:28,166 Well, I might have a solution. 1003 00:53:28,233 --> 00:53:30,567 I'm not sure how you guys are gonna react to this. 1004 00:53:30,667 --> 00:53:33,867 But I have obtained permission 1005 00:53:33,967 --> 00:53:37,266 to be able to go across the street and go into the house. 1006 00:53:40,834 --> 00:53:43,100 Is that something you would consider doing with us, Duane? 1007 00:53:47,266 --> 00:53:49,467 [Duane] I don't know how I feel about it right now. 1008 00:53:49,567 --> 00:53:50,767 I wish I could. 1009 00:53:52,467 --> 00:53:54,233 I mean, this is how I'm looking at it. 1010 00:53:54,233 --> 00:53:57,934 All roads in this investigation are leading me to that house. 1011 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,533 If we can go in there, maybe, Duane, you can walk around and look, 1012 00:54:01,533 --> 00:54:02,967 maybe it will jog your memory. 1013 00:54:04,767 --> 00:54:06,834 [Terry] I'm all for it. Duane is. 1014 00:54:08,867 --> 00:54:10,100 How about you, Duane? 1015 00:54:15,166 --> 00:54:16,934 -Yeah. -Okay. 1016 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,033 [Duane] If it helps the case, I'll go over there. 1017 00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:22,000 As far as I can remember, that was the only time he ever was in that house. 1018 00:54:22,066 --> 00:54:23,867 Only... only time. 1019 00:54:23,967 --> 00:54:25,767 -This is where we need to go. -[Terry] Yeah. 1020 00:54:25,867 --> 00:54:27,100 -Follow me. -Okay. 1021 00:54:29,467 --> 00:54:31,934 [Steve] Just across the street from the Hell House 1022 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,767 is the home of the alleged witch. 1023 00:54:34,867 --> 00:54:40,133 Like the Pomeranings, she moved out of her house nearly 50 years ago. 1024 00:54:40,133 --> 00:54:44,000 This is the first time Terry has ever entered the home, 1025 00:54:44,066 --> 00:54:44,403 in the first time in nearly 50 years for Duane. 1026 00:54:44,403 --> 00:54:47,934 in the first time in nearly 50 years for Duane. 1027 00:54:50,767 --> 00:54:52,000 -Oh! -[Terry] Okay. 1028 00:54:58,667 --> 00:55:00,367 -[Terry] You all right? -No, not really. 1029 00:55:05,867 --> 00:55:07,333 I don't remember being in this place. 1030 00:55:08,634 --> 00:55:10,000 Go ahead and take a moment. 1031 00:55:19,767 --> 00:55:22,000 How do you feel being in here when you think about the things 1032 00:55:22,066 --> 00:55:25,567 that, you know, were happening across the street here when you lived there? 1033 00:55:27,967 --> 00:55:31,433 I don't know because it seems a little... 1034 00:55:32,433 --> 00:55:33,600 a little weird, 1035 00:55:33,634 --> 00:55:38,000 a little funny, but I just saw the stuff that they did, 1036 00:55:38,066 --> 00:55:41,133 especially what I seen them do outside. 1037 00:55:41,133 --> 00:55:44,403 She would look up in the sky and she'd be, like, talking to somebody, 1038 00:55:44,403 --> 00:55:45,734 She would look up in the sky and she'd be, like, talking to somebody, 1039 00:55:45,734 --> 00:55:50,000 even screaming sometimes, motioning with her arms. 1040 00:55:50,066 --> 00:55:53,166 She would go out there with their trash barrel 1041 00:55:53,266 --> 00:55:56,867 and it could be downpour and tremendous thunderstorm, 1042 00:55:56,967 --> 00:56:02,467 and she'd start the bags on fire and burn it all up. 1043 00:56:02,567 --> 00:56:07,333 [Steve] It almost sounds like, uh, they referred to it as exercising their powers. 1044 00:56:09,133 --> 00:56:12,367 So, now that I'm sitting here in this chair, there's a lot of things 1045 00:56:12,467 --> 00:56:13,667 that I think is coming back to me 1046 00:56:13,734 --> 00:56:14,403 because I remember she was playing with her hair. 1047 00:56:14,403 --> 00:56:16,867 because I remember she was playing with her hair. 1048 00:56:16,934 --> 00:56:19,066 I don't know what the hell... what that meant. 1049 00:56:19,133 --> 00:56:20,734 Latch on to those things that you remember, 1050 00:56:20,734 --> 00:56:22,867 and I think it's going to keep coming. 1051 00:56:22,934 --> 00:56:25,867 I remember now she had a black lipstick. 1052 00:56:29,567 --> 00:56:31,266 -[Terry] I remember... -[Steve] You remember this? 1053 00:56:31,333 --> 00:56:33,767 ...him telling me and my parents that... 1054 00:56:33,834 --> 00:56:36,033 I'm starting to remember a little bit when I'm back in here. 1055 00:56:36,867 --> 00:56:38,967 She was always in black. 1056 00:56:39,033 --> 00:56:42,100 That little bit of memory that was jogged by you coming in here, 1057 00:56:42,166 --> 00:56:44,403 the fact that she was wearing all black, that means something to me. 1058 00:56:44,403 --> 00:56:44,967 the fact that she was wearing all black, that means something to me. 1059 00:56:45,033 --> 00:56:47,233 -That... that helps. -She brought me in from the other way. 1060 00:56:47,233 --> 00:56:48,533 She brought you in the other door? 1061 00:56:48,533 --> 00:56:50,567 -Yeah. -Okay. So you're remembering right now. 1062 00:56:50,667 --> 00:56:52,533 -Yeah. -[Steve] You come in the back door, 1063 00:56:53,033 --> 00:56:54,233 what happens next? 1064 00:56:56,667 --> 00:56:58,133 There was candles in every room. 1065 00:56:58,133 --> 00:56:59,734 Do you remember what color candles? 1066 00:56:59,734 --> 00:57:02,367 Just try to put yourself there just for a moment. 1067 00:57:08,333 --> 00:57:09,734 There was different colored candles, yeah. 1068 00:57:09,734 --> 00:57:11,533 Okay. 1069 00:57:11,533 --> 00:57:14,367 How did it get to the point where a haircut got involved? 1070 00:57:15,667 --> 00:57:18,066 [Duane] She got some iced tea. 1071 00:57:18,133 --> 00:57:20,100 It didn't taste right, you know? 1072 00:57:20,166 --> 00:57:22,033 I told her I didn't need a haircut. 1073 00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:23,467 And this is what she said. 1074 00:57:23,533 --> 00:57:25,233 "I think I should just give you a trim." 1075 00:57:26,367 --> 00:57:27,767 And this is amazing. 1076 00:57:27,867 --> 00:57:32,133 She actually put the hair in her mouth and swallowed it. 1077 00:57:41,667 --> 00:57:43,734 She put the hair in her mouth and swallowed the hair? 1078 00:57:43,734 --> 00:57:44,967 Yes. 1079 00:57:46,467 --> 00:57:47,867 [Steve] Have you ever heard any of this? 1080 00:57:47,934 --> 00:57:49,367 No. 1081 00:57:49,467 --> 00:57:51,934 -No, this is all new to me. -[Duane] Yeah. 1082 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,000 Let me ask you guys something. I've got my gear out in the car. 1083 00:57:55,066 --> 00:57:58,166 Would you be willing to sit here while I place some meters around 1084 00:57:58,233 --> 00:57:59,667 and just kind of ask some questions 1085 00:57:59,734 --> 00:58:01,367 with you guys being present? 1086 00:58:01,467 --> 00:58:02,533 Yeah. 1087 00:58:06,233 --> 00:58:06,744 -[device chiming] -[Steve] Okay. 1088 00:58:06,744 --> 00:58:08,266 -[device chiming] -[Steve] Okay. 1089 00:58:10,767 --> 00:58:14,233 This device here, guys, it's ITC communication. 1090 00:58:14,233 --> 00:58:17,433 Look at it as a radio to connect with the dead. 1091 00:58:17,433 --> 00:58:20,967 If you have any questions, I want you guys to ask the questions, okay? 1092 00:58:21,033 --> 00:58:22,834 We're gonna try to get some answers. 1093 00:58:23,867 --> 00:58:25,433 Huge meter hit. 1094 00:58:28,767 --> 00:58:32,667 Are you here now because they're back in the house, back here on this land? 1095 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,333 It said curse them. 1096 00:58:45,333 --> 00:58:47,767 [device chiming] 1097 00:58:47,834 --> 00:58:50,333 [Steve] Whatever it is, guys, it's right here. 1098 00:58:50,333 --> 00:58:52,166 Who are we communicating with? 1099 00:58:52,233 --> 00:58:53,367 Give us a name. 1100 00:59:05,467 --> 00:59:06,744 [Jamie] I've got an anomaly. 1101 00:59:06,744 --> 00:59:06,867 [Jamie] I've got an anomaly. 1102 00:59:06,967 --> 00:59:08,667 -[Steve] You got something? -[Jamie] Next to Duane. 1103 00:59:08,734 --> 00:59:10,000 Guys, it's right by Duane. 1104 00:59:13,734 --> 00:59:17,433 Did somebody conjure you to go after the Pomeraning family? 1105 00:59:19,967 --> 00:59:21,567 Yeah. 1106 00:59:21,634 --> 00:59:23,000 -Did you hear that? -Yeah. I heard that. 1107 00:59:23,066 --> 00:59:24,100 -Yeah. -Yeah. 1108 00:59:25,166 --> 00:59:27,266 You're setting off our meter. Who are you? 1109 00:59:31,233 --> 00:59:32,467 -[Steve] Did you hear it? -[Jamie] Yeah. 1110 00:59:32,533 --> 00:59:34,166 -Satan. -[Jamie] Yeah. 1111 00:59:34,233 --> 00:59:36,333 [Steve] Were you sitting in the chair? Did we see you? 1112 00:59:39,066 --> 00:59:41,333 -[Jamie] Yeah. -[Steve] Yes. Yes. 1113 00:59:41,333 --> 00:59:43,233 Today, November 18, 1114 00:59:43,233 --> 00:59:45,767 there was a police report filed at your old residence. 1115 00:59:45,867 --> 00:59:48,133 Voices threatening to kill the family. 1116 00:59:48,133 --> 00:59:49,934 -Yeah. -[Steve] Well, that's today's date. 1117 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,767 -Yeah. -I want you to ask the first question, Duane. 1118 00:59:52,867 --> 00:59:54,934 I'm gonna hit record. 1119 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,266 I'm gonna set it here. 1120 00:59:59,533 --> 01:00:03,467 Are you always just here or you go somewhere else? 1121 01:00:03,567 --> 01:00:05,200 Where do you, where do you go? 1122 01:00:10,166 --> 01:00:13,133 [Duane on recorder] Are you always just here or you go somewhere else? 1123 01:00:13,133 --> 01:00:14,567 Where do you, where do you go? 1124 01:00:14,634 --> 01:00:16,100 Here. 1125 01:00:16,166 --> 01:00:17,634 It said here. 1126 01:00:17,634 --> 01:00:19,433 All right, let's try a few more, guys. 1127 01:00:21,567 --> 01:00:24,734 Am I tonight sitting here after all these years pissing you off? 1128 01:00:24,734 --> 01:00:26,367 [device beeping] 1129 01:00:26,433 --> 01:00:28,166 I got the best of you, didn't I? 1130 01:00:28,233 --> 01:00:31,266 Duane, while you were talking, Jamie just caught an anomaly 1131 01:00:31,367 --> 01:00:33,767 right behind the cameraman standing there. 1132 01:00:33,867 --> 01:00:36,033 Yeah, I felt, I felt it. 1133 01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:36,744 Let me try asking a couple questions real quick. 1134 01:00:36,744 --> 01:00:37,734 Let me try asking a couple questions real quick. 1135 01:00:37,734 --> 01:00:40,000 [Duane] Okay. Go for it. 1136 01:00:40,066 --> 01:00:43,133 [Steve] Why do you still linger on this property, on this land? 1137 01:00:44,367 --> 01:00:46,166 Lastly, where are you in this room? 1138 01:00:48,433 --> 01:00:51,667 [Steve on recorder] Why do you still linger on this property, on this land? 1139 01:00:54,066 --> 01:00:55,967 [Steve on recorder] Lastly, where are you in this room? 1140 01:00:57,467 --> 01:00:59,166 Holy... [bleep] 1141 01:00:59,233 --> 01:01:00,767 [Terry] I heard that. I heard that. 1142 01:01:00,867 --> 01:01:03,033 -Yeah. -"Everywhere." 1143 01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:05,166 That's what I heard. "Everywhere." "Where are you?" 1144 01:01:05,233 --> 01:01:06,567 "Everywhere." 1145 01:01:06,634 --> 01:01:06,744 -I pissed the demon off. -[Steve] Yeah. 1146 01:01:06,744 --> 01:01:08,233 -I pissed the demon off. -[Steve] Yeah. 1147 01:01:08,233 --> 01:01:10,667 Well, listen, we never want to challenge something like this. 1148 01:01:13,767 --> 01:01:18,533 Between the intense responses from the GeoPort, between the anomalies, 1149 01:01:18,533 --> 01:01:21,367 all these EVPs, I think this is good enough. 1150 01:01:21,467 --> 01:01:23,033 Quit while you're ahead. 1151 01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:24,233 Yeah. 1152 01:01:24,233 --> 01:01:26,333 [crickets chirping] 1153 01:01:29,634 --> 01:01:34,066 [Steve] After nearly 50 years, Duane was able to remember key details 1154 01:01:34,133 --> 01:01:36,744 about the terrifying encounter that changed his life forever. 1155 01:01:36,744 --> 01:01:39,100 about the terrifying encounter that changed his life forever. 1156 01:01:39,166 --> 01:01:42,266 With mounting evidence that the incidents at the Hell House 1157 01:01:42,367 --> 01:01:44,367 were related to occult activity, 1158 01:01:44,433 --> 01:01:46,967 I've called in the help of an expert. 1159 01:01:47,033 --> 01:01:52,266 Miss Aida is an ordained witch and an expert on occult rituals. 1160 01:01:52,333 --> 01:01:54,433 So where would you like to begin with this case? 1161 01:01:54,433 --> 01:01:58,233 I know I briefed you over the phone a decent amount about the activities 1162 01:01:58,233 --> 01:01:59,567 that took place out here. 1163 01:01:59,667 --> 01:02:02,467 -I'd like to walk around the property outside... -Okay. 1164 01:02:02,533 --> 01:02:04,367 ...and then on the inside. 1165 01:02:04,433 --> 01:02:05,467 All right. Sure. Okay. 1166 01:02:05,533 --> 01:02:06,567 Would you this way? 1167 01:02:06,667 --> 01:02:06,744 -I'd rather go... -[Steve] This way around? 1168 01:02:06,744 --> 01:02:08,934 -I'd rather go... -[Steve] This way around? 1169 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,066 -Okay. -[Miss Aida] Yes. 1170 01:02:10,133 --> 01:02:11,266 Absolutely. I'll follow your lead. 1171 01:02:12,967 --> 01:02:15,100 [crow cawing] 1172 01:02:15,166 --> 01:02:21,967 Has anyone mentioned having seen any entities lately through the windows? 1173 01:02:22,033 --> 01:02:25,367 Yes. They said a face would appear in the window like this. 1174 01:02:25,433 --> 01:02:30,133 We were home alone and we both seen it. 1175 01:02:30,133 --> 01:02:34,367 And it was almost like a white thing, like a shadow, almost with like hands. 1176 01:02:34,433 --> 01:02:35,634 And we freaked out. 1177 01:02:35,634 --> 01:02:36,744 There was no footsteps. Nothing. 1178 01:02:36,744 --> 01:02:37,967 There was no footsteps. Nothing. 1179 01:02:38,033 --> 01:02:40,533 I always felt like someone was watching me at all times. 1180 01:02:42,467 --> 01:02:45,233 I'm feeling something on this side. 1181 01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:51,433 What about the neighbors, their neighbors? 1182 01:02:51,433 --> 01:02:54,934 So the story goes that the woman that lived across the street 1183 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,433 came over here one day. 1184 01:02:56,433 --> 01:02:57,634 Just bought that house. 1185 01:02:57,634 --> 01:02:59,166 It was brand-new at the time. 1186 01:02:59,233 --> 01:03:02,367 And said to Mr. Pomeraning, "I'd like to buy your house." 1187 01:03:03,934 --> 01:03:05,934 Why did she want that house? 1188 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:06,744 Allegedly, she said that she had some friends that wanted the house. 1189 01:03:06,744 --> 01:03:09,033 Allegedly, she said that she had some friends that wanted the house. 1190 01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:12,000 But what's strange is she had no friends or family in the area. 1191 01:03:12,066 --> 01:03:14,266 And when Harold said, "It's not for sale," 1192 01:03:14,333 --> 01:03:17,533 she kind of muttered a little something ominous, I guess. 1193 01:03:17,533 --> 01:03:20,000 You know, you'll regret that or we'll see about that. 1194 01:03:20,066 --> 01:03:22,266 And then she just kind of walked on back to the house. 1195 01:03:23,767 --> 01:03:27,767 You know what my feeling is, she wanted that house as a residence 1196 01:03:27,834 --> 01:03:31,166 and this house to conduct the coven activities. 1197 01:03:31,233 --> 01:03:36,033 My feeling is she didn't want any of the energies attacking her house. 1198 01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:36,744 She'd rather have it here. 1199 01:03:36,744 --> 01:03:37,934 She'd rather have it here. 1200 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,166 Okay. I have a police report. 1201 01:03:40,266 --> 01:03:41,834 Uh, they came over here and apparently 1202 01:03:41,834 --> 01:03:43,100 they were out there in the yard. 1203 01:03:43,166 --> 01:03:45,567 And the way that the police described it was 1204 01:03:45,667 --> 01:03:48,000 they were seen doing contortions. 1205 01:03:48,066 --> 01:03:49,100 That's their wording. 1206 01:03:49,166 --> 01:03:50,667 -Okay. -Contortions, strange movements 1207 01:03:50,734 --> 01:03:52,734 and what looked like worshiping the sun 1208 01:03:52,734 --> 01:03:54,667 with hand gestures. 1209 01:03:54,734 --> 01:03:58,567 They would also see her across the street, you know, out here in the rural areas, 1210 01:03:58,667 --> 01:04:00,233 they used to burn trash in barrels. 1211 01:04:00,233 --> 01:04:02,934 Even when it was pouring rain, thunder and lightning, 1212 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,934 she would be out at this trash barrel 1213 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,744 and she would be... I guess, doing things with her hand. 1214 01:04:06,744 --> 01:04:08,567 and she would be... I guess, doing things with her hand. 1215 01:04:08,667 --> 01:04:10,567 The fire would just keep climbing and climbing, 1216 01:04:10,634 --> 01:04:12,867 and several people actually saw that. 1217 01:04:12,934 --> 01:04:15,867 -So I don't know, you know, what to make of it. -That's powerful magic. 1218 01:04:15,967 --> 01:04:19,000 That is absolutely powerful magic. 1219 01:04:19,066 --> 01:04:21,667 She was demonstrating her power. 1220 01:04:21,734 --> 01:04:23,867 That's what it sounds like to me. 1221 01:04:23,967 --> 01:04:25,467 [Steve] Okay. 1222 01:04:25,467 --> 01:04:28,433 And something else that's important, basically straight across from us, 1223 01:04:28,433 --> 01:04:30,634 there's kind of a circle in the grass 1224 01:04:30,634 --> 01:04:32,133 where the grass is different. 1225 01:04:32,133 --> 01:04:33,867 You can clearly see it's not the same. 1226 01:04:33,967 --> 01:04:36,266 And that's where she used to do that with the fire. 1227 01:04:36,367 --> 01:04:36,744 [Miss Aida] Interesting. I am very anxious to see that. 1228 01:04:36,744 --> 01:04:39,734 [Miss Aida] Interesting. I am very anxious to see that. 1229 01:04:40,967 --> 01:04:43,567 -This is kind of the edge of it here. -Yeah. 1230 01:04:43,667 --> 01:04:45,934 You can kind of see where the grass is a little bit different. 1231 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,266 There's kind of that circular spot. 1232 01:04:47,333 --> 01:04:48,367 [Miss Aida] Oh, I see that. 1233 01:04:48,467 --> 01:04:49,734 -Yes. -Yeah. 1234 01:04:49,734 --> 01:04:51,834 [Miss Aida] This is where she practiced the magic. 1235 01:04:51,834 --> 01:04:53,767 [Steve] Yeah, right here. 1236 01:04:53,834 --> 01:04:58,834 I will tell you that I feel a little dizzy here. 1237 01:04:58,834 --> 01:05:00,667 Yeah, kind of disorienting a little bit? 1238 01:05:00,734 --> 01:05:02,033 -Yeah. Do you feel that way? -Yeah. 1239 01:05:02,066 --> 01:05:05,667 I did. Honestly, I was just kind of avoiding my eye contact 1240 01:05:05,734 --> 01:05:06,744 with this area, because when I look at it, it feels a little... 1241 01:05:06,744 --> 01:05:08,867 with this area, because when I look at it, it feels a little... 1242 01:05:08,967 --> 01:05:12,333 [Miss Aida] Yeah, I feel uneven. 1243 01:05:12,333 --> 01:05:16,867 That's why I'm wondering if it's a possibility that it could be a portal. 1244 01:05:17,967 --> 01:05:19,367 Right? 1245 01:05:21,133 --> 01:05:24,000 Now, would it be best for me to stay outside of this circle? 1246 01:05:30,367 --> 01:05:31,834 Maybe I'll just stand here. 1247 01:05:37,767 --> 01:05:39,233 I can feel it. 1248 01:05:39,233 --> 01:05:42,333 I can actually feel when I'm in and out of it. 1249 01:05:42,333 --> 01:05:45,667 That's why I'm leaning toward a portal. 1250 01:05:46,467 --> 01:05:47,667 Okay. 1251 01:05:47,734 --> 01:05:49,133 Right above that garage door, 1252 01:05:49,133 --> 01:05:51,567 there used to be three black Xs. 1253 01:05:51,634 --> 01:05:54,033 They would say that they were iron Xs. 1254 01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:56,834 Iron is a repellent. 1255 01:05:56,834 --> 01:06:02,767 I think she put three up as a way of saying get out or stay away. 1256 01:06:02,867 --> 01:06:06,467 It sounds to me like something scared the hell out of her. 1257 01:06:06,567 --> 01:06:06,744 Maybe she sacrificed her soul for the power 1258 01:06:06,744 --> 01:06:11,233 Maybe she sacrificed her soul for the power 1259 01:06:11,233 --> 01:06:14,467 and maybe someone came along and said, "It's time," 1260 01:06:14,567 --> 01:06:16,367 and she didn't wanna go. 1261 01:06:16,467 --> 01:06:19,367 Obviously, with all the bad things that have happened, 1262 01:06:19,433 --> 01:06:23,266 what type of a cult would do horrible things to another person? 1263 01:06:23,367 --> 01:06:27,233 It certainly wouldn't be a Wiccan community. 1264 01:06:27,233 --> 01:06:30,533 It sounds to me like a satanic cult. 1265 01:06:30,533 --> 01:06:36,433 I believe that she summoned something that was horrific. 1266 01:06:36,433 --> 01:06:36,744 They unleashed more than what they bargained for, something demonic. 1267 01:06:36,744 --> 01:06:42,133 They unleashed more than what they bargained for, something demonic. 1268 01:06:42,133 --> 01:06:47,767 They unleashed something that was totally out of their control. 1269 01:06:47,867 --> 01:06:50,367 It makes me wonder, did she see Satan? 1270 01:06:56,867 --> 01:06:58,467 [Steve] For seven years, I've been struggling 1271 01:06:58,567 --> 01:07:02,266 to uncover the cause of the paranormal activity at the Hell House. 1272 01:07:03,233 --> 01:07:04,567 Was it a poltergeist, 1273 01:07:04,667 --> 01:07:08,000 witchcraft, or something demonic? 1274 01:07:08,066 --> 01:07:10,967 I now may finally have the answers. 1275 01:07:11,734 --> 01:07:13,767 It was all of it. 1276 01:07:13,934 --> 01:07:17,567 Using black magic, the Pomeranings' neighbor tried to drive the family 1277 01:07:17,634 --> 01:07:20,867 from their home so she could claim it for her coven. 1278 01:07:20,934 --> 01:07:23,934 Stress on the family, caused by the constant 1279 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,429 knocking and disembodied voices, created a poltergeist 1280 01:07:26,429 --> 01:07:27,734 knocking and disembodied voices, created a poltergeist 1281 01:07:27,734 --> 01:07:30,100 centered around Duane. 1282 01:07:30,166 --> 01:07:33,433 But with the family determined to stay in their home, 1283 01:07:33,433 --> 01:07:36,033 the witch next door went darker, 1284 01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:38,467 performing satanic rituals 1285 01:07:38,567 --> 01:07:43,967 that unleashed a demon so powerful, it went well beyond her control. 1286 01:07:45,867 --> 01:07:51,867 It's clear that demon is still here and needs to be sent back to hell. 1287 01:07:51,967 --> 01:07:55,433 But first, before we attempt to close that portal, 1288 01:07:55,433 --> 01:07:56,429 I want to see if we can put a name or a face on the one 1289 01:07:56,429 --> 01:07:59,333 I want to see if we can put a name or a face on the one 1290 01:07:59,333 --> 01:08:02,166 who tormented the Pomeraning family. 1291 01:08:02,233 --> 01:08:07,467 It could be our last chance to face it, and it's going to be dangerous. 1292 01:08:07,567 --> 01:08:12,066 So right now I'm standing in the circle that Miss Aida believes is a portal 1293 01:08:12,133 --> 01:08:14,100 that the neighbor here opened up. 1294 01:08:14,166 --> 01:08:16,266 A little nervous, a little hesitant to be doing this. 1295 01:08:16,367 --> 01:08:18,133 Um, I'm gonna be using my GeoPort 1296 01:08:18,133 --> 01:08:20,433 to try to establish communication. 1297 01:08:20,433 --> 01:08:24,266 This is all happening while Cindy is doing her spirit art. 1298 01:08:24,367 --> 01:08:26,429 [Steve] I've positioned Cindy across the street overlooking the portal. 1299 01:08:26,429 --> 01:08:28,767 [Steve] I've positioned Cindy across the street overlooking the portal. 1300 01:08:28,867 --> 01:08:33,567 She'll tap in and attempt to sketch an image of this evil entity. 1301 01:08:33,667 --> 01:08:36,667 I'm just gonna go ahead and start this up and see what happens. 1302 01:08:38,367 --> 01:08:39,567 Who are you? 1303 01:08:46,166 --> 01:08:49,166 [bleep] it literally said, "Satan, the demon." 1304 01:08:49,967 --> 01:08:51,667 What was done here in this spot? 1305 01:08:52,834 --> 01:08:55,000 Cindy? Did it just say Cindy? 1306 01:08:57,333 --> 01:08:58,533 What do you want to say? 1307 01:09:04,233 --> 01:09:05,367 [Steve] Magic? 1308 01:09:06,567 --> 01:09:07,934 It said magic. 1309 01:09:08,667 --> 01:09:09,934 What kind of magic? 1310 01:09:13,567 --> 01:09:14,867 Magic ritual. 1311 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,166 Magic ritual. 1312 01:09:26,567 --> 01:09:29,667 I don't like that it keeps... it keeps saying... 1313 01:09:29,734 --> 01:09:31,834 it keeps saying Cindy. I don't like that. 1314 01:09:31,834 --> 01:09:33,367 I don't like that at all. 1315 01:09:34,667 --> 01:09:37,066 [Steve] I mean, Cindy can't hear any of this. 1316 01:09:38,166 --> 01:09:40,333 She has no idea what's going on. 1317 01:09:43,667 --> 01:09:44,734 Cindy. 1318 01:09:44,734 --> 01:09:46,233 It just keeps saying Cindy. 1319 01:09:49,467 --> 01:09:50,567 I don't know, man. 1320 01:09:50,634 --> 01:09:52,667 I'm sure... I'm kind of worried about her. 1321 01:09:53,266 --> 01:09:54,367 This isn't good. 1322 01:09:55,133 --> 01:09:56,166 I don't know. 1323 01:09:56,233 --> 01:09:56,429 I think we should cut off communication. 1324 01:09:56,429 --> 01:09:58,834 I think we should cut off communication. 1325 01:09:58,834 --> 01:10:00,266 I want to check on Cindy. 1326 01:10:00,367 --> 01:10:01,934 I'm just going to head over there. 1327 01:10:12,467 --> 01:10:13,667 You all right? 1328 01:10:13,734 --> 01:10:15,266 [Cindy] Good, man. How is it out there? 1329 01:10:16,233 --> 01:10:17,533 Crazy. 1330 01:10:17,533 --> 01:10:19,967 Um, I actually left because it kept saying your name. 1331 01:10:20,033 --> 01:10:21,767 -It did? -[Steve] Over and over again. 1332 01:10:21,867 --> 01:10:25,166 And so, I started to get a little concerned that finally I just 1333 01:10:25,266 --> 01:10:26,429 shut off communication, I came up here to see how you were doing. 1334 01:10:26,429 --> 01:10:28,166 shut off communication, I came up here to see how you were doing. 1335 01:10:28,233 --> 01:10:29,367 I'm fine. 1336 01:10:29,367 --> 01:10:32,467 But this drawing was interesting to me because, 1337 01:10:32,533 --> 01:10:38,266 right, you like tap into what you think she maybe conjured up, right? 1338 01:10:38,367 --> 01:10:40,166 So at first, I started drawing, I'm like, "Oh, 1339 01:10:40,233 --> 01:10:42,166 it's a face of a woman coming through," right? 1340 01:10:42,266 --> 01:10:44,333 I'm like, "Oh." Do you see the side of this? 1341 01:10:45,467 --> 01:10:46,533 [Steve] Yeah, I do. 1342 01:10:46,533 --> 01:10:47,867 [Cindy] Is it elemental? 1343 01:10:47,967 --> 01:10:49,033 Is it demonic? Like... 1344 01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:50,467 [Steve] It looks like a, like a demon. 1345 01:10:51,367 --> 01:10:53,266 The GeoPort kept saying Demon. 1346 01:10:53,367 --> 01:10:54,734 [Cindy] Oh, my God. 1347 01:10:54,767 --> 01:10:56,429 I've seen this woman luring us, saying, "You're all gonna die." 1348 01:10:56,429 --> 01:11:00,100 I've seen this woman luring us, saying, "You're all gonna die." 1349 01:11:02,467 --> 01:11:04,233 We're thinking maybe it's the neighbor. 1350 01:11:04,233 --> 01:11:08,867 Maybe it's this, maybe it's this that can shape-shift into this. 1351 01:11:08,934 --> 01:11:10,266 -Mimicking. -Mimicking. 1352 01:11:10,367 --> 01:11:11,867 I don't know, Cindy. 1353 01:11:11,900 --> 01:11:14,033 I think whatever's out here has been following us the whole time. 1354 01:11:15,467 --> 01:11:16,500 [gasps] 1355 01:11:16,533 --> 01:11:18,033 -[Steve] "You're all going to die." -Steve. 1356 01:11:18,667 --> 01:11:21,000 [Steve] Son, wrong, devil. 1357 01:11:22,333 --> 01:11:24,467 -It said Satan. Sound like it said Satan. -[Jamie] Yeah. 1358 01:11:24,533 --> 01:11:25,634 -Did you hear it? -[Jamie] Yeah. 1359 01:11:27,266 --> 01:11:29,967 It literally said, "Satan, the demon." 1360 01:11:30,033 --> 01:11:32,233 -This has been happening everywhere we go. -I know. 1361 01:11:32,233 --> 01:11:36,100 I mean, she literally could have brought something demonic in. 1362 01:11:36,166 --> 01:11:39,533 I think there's no doubt that portal needs to get closed. 1363 01:11:39,533 --> 01:11:40,834 [Cindy] Yeah. 1364 01:11:48,467 --> 01:11:51,433 [Steve] Nearly 50 years after it was unleashed, 1365 01:11:52,867 --> 01:11:57,467 the demon that terrorized a peaceful Midwestern family 1366 01:11:57,567 --> 01:12:01,333 is finally going to be sent back into darkness. 1367 01:12:03,266 --> 01:12:07,266 We are going to perform a ritual to do just that. 1368 01:12:07,367 --> 01:12:11,033 But first, Cindy and I invited the Pomeraning brothers 1369 01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:14,467 back into the Hell House one final time. 1370 01:12:14,567 --> 01:12:16,677 Will the demon show itself with the brothers present? 1371 01:12:16,677 --> 01:12:18,166 Will the demon show itself with the brothers present? 1372 01:12:18,233 --> 01:12:20,367 Cindy, I'll let you take over. 1373 01:12:20,433 --> 01:12:23,333 I have to tell you, Duane, the other thing I saw, 1374 01:12:23,333 --> 01:12:29,000 there was somebody behind you all of the time, somebody attached to you. 1375 01:12:29,066 --> 01:12:33,767 Initially it felt like a man but as the investigation went on further, 1376 01:12:34,967 --> 01:12:36,834 what we discovered was... 1377 01:12:36,834 --> 01:12:38,266 [devices chiming] 1378 01:12:39,133 --> 01:12:40,166 Here we go. 1379 01:12:40,266 --> 01:12:41,533 [Steve] Now everything is going crazy. 1380 01:12:41,567 --> 01:12:44,467 [Jamie] I didn't mean to interrupt but there's an anomaly 1381 01:12:44,533 --> 01:12:46,677 right behind Cindy and Duane. 1382 01:12:46,677 --> 01:12:46,867 right behind Cindy and Duane. 1383 01:12:46,934 --> 01:12:48,333 I felt that right now. 1384 01:12:48,333 --> 01:12:50,333 -[Cindy] Yep. -Yeah, this is, this is strange. 1385 01:12:50,333 --> 01:12:52,333 -Is it still there now? -[Jamie] Yeah. 1386 01:12:52,333 --> 01:12:53,867 It'd be a great time to capture that. 1387 01:12:53,967 --> 01:12:55,634 Jamie, what's it doing? 1388 01:12:55,634 --> 01:12:57,467 [Jamie] Um, it's touching Duane. 1389 01:12:57,533 --> 01:12:58,567 It's touching Duane? 1390 01:12:58,634 --> 01:12:59,767 [Jamie] Touching his head. 1391 01:12:59,867 --> 01:13:03,367 Uh, now one is behind in between the two. 1392 01:13:04,567 --> 01:13:06,133 And this is literally when Cindy is saying 1393 01:13:06,133 --> 01:13:08,333 that man that's always behind him, 1394 01:13:08,333 --> 01:13:10,367 -and you're getting this now? -[Jamie] Yes. 1395 01:13:10,467 --> 01:13:11,967 [Duane] Is there any way that we can pray 1396 01:13:12,033 --> 01:13:13,367 to just get that demon off me? 1397 01:13:13,467 --> 01:13:16,033 Yes. That's why we're here because we want to help with that. 1398 01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:16,677 -[Duane] Yeah. -[knocking] 1399 01:13:16,677 --> 01:13:17,867 -[Duane] Yeah. -[knocking] 1400 01:13:19,367 --> 01:13:20,467 [Cindy] I heard that, too. 1401 01:13:20,533 --> 01:13:21,867 -[Steve] You guys hearing these knocks? -Yeah. 1402 01:13:21,967 --> 01:13:25,433 Yes, like it's '74 all over again. 1403 01:13:25,433 --> 01:13:28,233 After all these decades, it's still, it's still here. 1404 01:13:28,233 --> 01:13:31,767 I think it's time that we bring in Miss Aida that... 1405 01:13:31,867 --> 01:13:34,367 you know, that person I was telling you about earlier. 1406 01:13:34,467 --> 01:13:36,767 Um, she's our best bet at this point. 1407 01:13:36,834 --> 01:13:40,767 She has the ability to help us and help bring this to a close. 1408 01:13:40,867 --> 01:13:43,266 I think, Duane, you really need this, 1409 01:13:43,333 --> 01:13:45,567 -maybe more than anybody at this point. -Hmm-mmm. 1410 01:13:45,634 --> 01:13:46,677 Right. 1411 01:13:46,677 --> 01:13:47,066 Right. 1412 01:13:47,133 --> 01:13:48,767 All right. I think it's time to get her involved. 1413 01:13:48,867 --> 01:13:50,367 [Cindy] Yeah, definitely. 1414 01:13:52,433 --> 01:13:54,266 -[Terry] Yeah. Miss Aida. -[Miss Aida] Yes. 1415 01:13:54,367 --> 01:13:55,867 [Terry] Yeah, please come in. Please come in. 1416 01:13:55,967 --> 01:13:57,867 Thank you so much for coming out here tonight. 1417 01:13:59,333 --> 01:14:00,767 -[Duane] Hi. -Terry, Duane. 1418 01:14:00,867 --> 01:14:02,266 Cindy, this is Miss Aida. 1419 01:14:02,367 --> 01:14:03,367 You are Duane? 1420 01:14:03,467 --> 01:14:04,767 -[Duane] Duane. Yeah. -I'm Terry. 1421 01:14:04,834 --> 01:14:06,367 Terry, my name is Miss Aida. 1422 01:14:06,467 --> 01:14:08,567 -Nice meeting you. -Nice to meet you. 1423 01:14:08,634 --> 01:14:13,033 -Steve has told me a lot of what had happened to you. -Yeah. 1424 01:14:13,100 --> 01:14:16,677 From what I understand, you went to the witch... 1425 01:14:16,677 --> 01:14:17,266 From what I understand, you went to the witch... 1426 01:14:17,367 --> 01:14:20,634 I'm gonna call her the witch because she's obviously a witch. 1427 01:14:20,634 --> 01:14:22,967 -You went to the witch's home. -[Duane] Yeah. 1428 01:14:23,033 --> 01:14:27,567 [Miss Aida] And she gave you some sort of a potion to drink? 1429 01:14:27,667 --> 01:14:29,667 [Duane] Yeah, and a haircut, yeah. 1430 01:14:30,934 --> 01:14:32,433 [Miss Aida] And she took your hair? 1431 01:14:32,433 --> 01:14:33,667 Yeah. 1432 01:14:33,767 --> 01:14:38,934 So hair is a personal concern that we say in witchcraft. 1433 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:44,166 Anything that contains our DNA, such as hair, 1434 01:14:44,266 --> 01:14:46,677 they now own an essence of you. 1435 01:14:46,677 --> 01:14:46,834 they now own an essence of you. 1436 01:14:46,834 --> 01:14:48,867 So she... 1437 01:14:48,934 --> 01:14:53,567 -She, uh, danced around me, was acting strange. -I'm sorry. 1438 01:14:53,667 --> 01:14:58,166 When she danced around you, did she dance around you in a circle? 1439 01:14:58,233 --> 01:14:59,934 Sort of like that, yeah. 1440 01:15:00,066 --> 01:15:01,934 And then you passed out. 1441 01:15:03,367 --> 01:15:07,634 You came home, you had a grand mal seizure. 1442 01:15:07,634 --> 01:15:09,033 [Duane] Correct. 1443 01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:13,100 What unusual feelings did you have prior to the seizure? 1444 01:15:13,166 --> 01:15:14,934 A strange feeling came over me. 1445 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,677 I don't know how to explain it, you know? 1446 01:15:16,677 --> 01:15:16,867 I don't know how to explain it, you know? 1447 01:15:16,967 --> 01:15:19,033 Somebody watching me. 1448 01:15:19,100 --> 01:15:21,867 It just seemed like he wasn't himself. 1449 01:15:21,967 --> 01:15:24,166 [Miss Aida] You felt a presence around you. 1450 01:15:24,233 --> 01:15:27,033 Did it feel as if it was a part of you? 1451 01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:28,100 Part of me, no. 1452 01:15:28,166 --> 01:15:29,233 I was very stressed out. 1453 01:15:29,233 --> 01:15:30,333 [Miss Aida] Okay. 1454 01:15:30,333 --> 01:15:31,467 So it's a part of you. 1455 01:15:31,567 --> 01:15:33,834 So there we go with the attachment. 1456 01:15:34,767 --> 01:15:38,266 So the witch, what happened at the end? 1457 01:15:38,333 --> 01:15:40,934 [Terry] The priest that came here and blessed our house 1458 01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,433 inside and out with holy water. 1459 01:15:42,433 --> 01:15:43,567 [Miss Aida] A Catholic priest? 1460 01:15:43,567 --> 01:15:45,567 [Terry] Yeah, catholic priest, Father Horton. 1461 01:15:45,634 --> 01:15:46,677 My mom and dad, they got up that one Sunday morning 1462 01:15:46,677 --> 01:15:48,100 My mom and dad, they got up that one Sunday morning 1463 01:15:48,166 --> 01:15:50,467 and they said, "You know what, we should go out 1464 01:15:50,567 --> 01:15:53,266 to Father Horton's service this morning." 1465 01:15:53,333 --> 01:15:55,367 The neighbor lady, that's where she went to church. 1466 01:15:55,467 --> 01:15:56,467 The witch? 1467 01:15:56,567 --> 01:15:58,100 -[Terry] Yeah. -Okay. 1468 01:15:58,133 --> 01:16:05,667 [Terry] And she was the very first person to leave the church that day. 1469 01:16:05,767 --> 01:16:11,367 She went up to Father Horton first, and she fell into his arms 1470 01:16:11,467 --> 01:16:13,934 and started crying and crying and crying. 1471 01:16:15,367 --> 01:16:16,677 He arrived to their house that Monday morning 1472 01:16:16,677 --> 01:16:18,433 He arrived to their house that Monday morning 1473 01:16:18,433 --> 01:16:21,834 and he didn't leave till, like, 6:00 o'clock that evening. 1474 01:16:21,834 --> 01:16:27,667 He called my dad and said, "I told them leave yous alone or to move away." 1475 01:16:27,734 --> 01:16:30,934 Well, then a month later, they put the house up for sale. 1476 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,166 [Miss Aida] At this point, I get it. 1477 01:16:33,233 --> 01:16:35,100 -I get what she did. -Okay. 1478 01:16:35,166 --> 01:16:40,100 You unknowingly partook in a ritual. 1479 01:16:41,333 --> 01:16:44,166 What was the spell or what was... what did she do? 1480 01:16:44,233 --> 01:16:46,677 [Miss Aida] Well, what she did was she did a satanic ritual. 1481 01:16:46,677 --> 01:16:47,467 [Miss Aida] Well, what she did was she did a satanic ritual. 1482 01:16:47,533 --> 01:16:50,967 She bonded him and hers, almost like a marriage. 1483 01:16:51,033 --> 01:16:53,634 Would it be easier for somebody like that 1484 01:16:53,634 --> 01:16:57,667 to prey upon somebody who is open more... 1485 01:16:57,734 --> 01:16:59,834 -Absolutely, yes. -...to the spirit world? 1486 01:16:59,834 --> 01:17:00,934 Absolutely, yes. 1487 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,066 [Cindy] So my sense is that Duane is open. 1488 01:17:03,133 --> 01:17:05,767 Um, Duane, have you ever had experiences 1489 01:17:05,867 --> 01:17:07,867 with seeing spirits when you were younger? 1490 01:17:11,634 --> 01:17:12,867 Yeah. When I was younger, yeah. 1491 01:17:12,967 --> 01:17:14,533 [Cindy] But, you know, Duane, here's the thing. 1492 01:17:14,533 --> 01:17:16,634 I think that you're open. Since you were a kid, 1493 01:17:16,634 --> 01:17:16,677 like me, you might have had some media mystic abilities, 1494 01:17:16,677 --> 01:17:18,967 like me, you might have had some media mystic abilities, 1495 01:17:19,033 --> 01:17:23,734 and with that, it can create an entry or a place for spirits to come in. 1496 01:17:23,734 --> 01:17:29,066 I do want to ask you about that circle and in... in their yard, 1497 01:17:29,133 --> 01:17:31,533 there is a brown patch there. 1498 01:17:31,533 --> 01:17:34,634 -I walked over that circle, I felt a little dizzy. -Hmm. 1499 01:17:34,634 --> 01:17:39,734 [Miss Aida] So it could be a portal she may have brought the demons in. 1500 01:17:39,734 --> 01:17:40,834 [Cindy] Mmm-hmm. 1501 01:17:40,834 --> 01:17:44,133 And I've been consulting with a demonologist, 1502 01:17:44,133 --> 01:17:46,533 and I'm going to do something about that. 1503 01:17:46,533 --> 01:17:46,677 -I'm going to try and stop that... -Hmm. 1504 01:17:46,677 --> 01:17:49,166 -I'm going to try and stop that... -Hmm. 1505 01:17:59,166 --> 01:18:02,433 [Steve] Just before midnight, Miss Aida will perform 1506 01:18:02,433 --> 01:18:06,100 a ritual to close the portal and send the demons 1507 01:18:06,166 --> 01:18:10,667 that were conjured here 50 years ago back to hell. 1508 01:18:10,734 --> 01:18:12,967 While she and Cindy prepare for the ritual, 1509 01:18:13,033 --> 01:18:16,166 I'm setting up devices inside the Hell House. 1510 01:18:16,266 --> 01:18:21,333 If the entity is agitated, these will certainly detect it. 1511 01:18:21,333 --> 01:18:24,767 Because of Duane's strong connection to the evil here, 1512 01:18:24,834 --> 01:18:25,253 Miss Aida asks both Duane and Terry to leave this area 1513 01:18:25,253 --> 01:18:28,834 Miss Aida asks both Duane and Terry to leave this area 1514 01:18:28,834 --> 01:18:31,767 entirely until the portal is closed. 1515 01:18:31,834 --> 01:18:34,467 All right, Miss Aida, we're back in this spot 1516 01:18:34,533 --> 01:18:37,867 where you and I felt really uneasy, that portal. 1517 01:18:37,934 --> 01:18:39,767 How would you want to close this? 1518 01:18:39,867 --> 01:18:41,767 What's the next step? 1519 01:18:41,834 --> 01:18:46,634 So what my plan is, is I'm going to recite a Psalm 1520 01:18:46,634 --> 01:18:49,467 that keeps away bad entities. 1521 01:18:49,533 --> 01:18:53,266 When I'm in the circle, I wish for you and Cindy 1522 01:18:53,367 --> 01:18:55,253 to be in the circle with me, to protect me. 1523 01:18:55,253 --> 01:18:56,834 to be in the circle with me, to protect me. 1524 01:18:56,834 --> 01:19:00,767 You will be protecting me with an iron cross because 1525 01:19:00,867 --> 01:19:04,533 iron repels negative entities. 1526 01:19:04,533 --> 01:19:09,667 I'm asking you to hold up the statue of Saint Michael... 1527 01:19:09,767 --> 01:19:11,767 -Okay. -...over me. 1528 01:19:11,867 --> 01:19:16,767 And as we all know, Saint Michael kicked the devil's butt. 1529 01:19:18,100 --> 01:19:22,834 Then I'm going to spray this entire area with holy water 1530 01:19:22,834 --> 01:19:25,253 and close this area with sea salt. 1531 01:19:25,253 --> 01:19:26,000 and close this area with sea salt. 1532 01:19:26,066 --> 01:19:32,166 I will drive an iron knife into the ground to keep them there. 1533 01:19:32,266 --> 01:19:37,266 Also, for you to know, if I faint or if I get dizzy, 1534 01:19:37,333 --> 01:19:39,667 right, I want somebody 1535 01:19:39,734 --> 01:19:43,834 to grab the holy water and spray the hell out of me, 1536 01:19:43,834 --> 01:19:48,467 the crown of my head where entities like to attach themselves initially 1537 01:19:48,567 --> 01:19:49,767 and the back of my neck. 1538 01:19:49,867 --> 01:19:52,433 Just don't be afraid to soak me. 1539 01:19:53,934 --> 01:19:55,253 Saint Michael's statue. 1540 01:19:55,253 --> 01:19:55,266 Saint Michael's statue. 1541 01:20:03,667 --> 01:20:07,367 "I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, 1542 01:20:07,433 --> 01:20:10,367 from whence cometh my help. 1543 01:20:10,467 --> 01:20:15,233 My help cometh from the Lord, which made heaven and earth. 1544 01:20:15,233 --> 01:20:19,233 He that keepeth thee will not slumber. 1545 01:20:19,233 --> 01:20:23,667 He will not suffer thy foot to be moved. 1546 01:20:23,767 --> 01:20:25,253 The Lord shall preserve thee from all evil." 1547 01:20:25,253 --> 01:20:28,166 The Lord shall preserve thee from all evil." 1548 01:20:28,266 --> 01:20:29,667 [device chiming] 1549 01:20:29,767 --> 01:20:33,333 Dear God, I am your daughter, Aida. 1550 01:20:34,567 --> 01:20:39,667 I beg of you to protect us while we close this portal, 1551 01:20:39,767 --> 01:20:42,367 to protect us, Your children. 1552 01:20:42,467 --> 01:20:45,634 In the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, amen. 1553 01:20:47,767 --> 01:20:53,567 Now... I will drive this iron knife 1554 01:20:53,634 --> 01:20:55,253 into the center of this circle. 1555 01:20:55,253 --> 01:20:56,166 into the center of this circle. 1556 01:20:56,233 --> 01:20:58,266 [devices chiming] 1557 01:21:01,166 --> 01:21:05,000 [Miss Aida] Remain in the ground. 1558 01:21:05,066 --> 01:21:10,033 Remain under the ground from whence you came. 1559 01:21:10,634 --> 01:21:12,767 [devices chiming] 1560 01:21:15,266 --> 01:21:19,934 I command thee in the name of God. 1561 01:21:33,233 --> 01:21:34,934 How do you feel, Miss Aida? 1562 01:21:36,367 --> 01:21:38,166 -It feels different. -[Cindy] Thank you. 1563 01:21:38,233 --> 01:21:39,467 [Steve] Yeah. Thank you so much. 1564 01:21:39,567 --> 01:21:40,567 Thank God. 1565 01:21:40,667 --> 01:21:43,233 Don't thank me. Thank God. 1566 01:21:43,233 --> 01:21:44,533 [Steve] Okay, yeah. 1567 01:21:51,233 --> 01:21:53,033 [birds chirping] 1568 01:21:58,367 --> 01:21:59,767 [Steve] Terry, Duane. 1569 01:22:02,066 --> 01:22:04,734 Thank you guys again for having me over. 1570 01:22:04,734 --> 01:22:09,133 You know, I made a promise, years ago, that I would see this thing through to the end, 1571 01:22:09,133 --> 01:22:11,567 I would find everything there is to find 1572 01:22:11,634 --> 01:22:16,467 and explore everything there is to explore because I know it's real. 1573 01:22:16,567 --> 01:22:20,634 Even 40-some years later, you know, still there's a lot of days, 1574 01:22:20,634 --> 01:22:23,166 you have bad days, you know, thinking about it. 1575 01:22:23,266 --> 01:22:25,253 And I think that I can get through days better now. 1576 01:22:25,253 --> 01:22:28,266 And I think that I can get through days better now. 1577 01:22:28,367 --> 01:22:30,333 [Duane] You know, you reopened the case, 1578 01:22:30,333 --> 01:22:33,467 ...it helped a great deal with me and my brother. 1579 01:22:33,567 --> 01:22:36,467 And if my parents were living today, 1580 01:22:36,567 --> 01:22:37,867 they probably would have thanked you, 1581 01:22:37,934 --> 01:22:40,467 because had you never found us, 1582 01:22:41,233 --> 01:22:42,767 God knows what would have happened. 1583 01:22:43,967 --> 01:22:46,767 It's, uh... it's not the end. 1584 01:22:46,867 --> 01:22:49,467 It's just... I feel like it's just the beginning. 1585 01:22:49,567 --> 01:22:51,000 I want to thank you for that. 1586 01:22:53,233 --> 01:22:54,967 [birds chirping] 1587 01:23:04,333 --> 01:23:06,767 [Steve] I never got to meet Harold and Mabel, 1588 01:23:06,834 --> 01:23:10,634 but I pored over countless reports of their case, 1589 01:23:10,634 --> 01:23:14,033 listened to hours of audio recorded in their home, 1590 01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:18,867 and heard their sons reveal the terror of the Michigan Hell House. 1591 01:23:19,667 --> 01:23:22,634 I feel I know the Pomeraning family. 1592 01:23:22,634 --> 01:23:25,253 They didn't deserve to suffer like they did. 1593 01:23:25,253 --> 01:23:25,667 They didn't deserve to suffer like they did. 1594 01:23:25,767 --> 01:23:27,634 No one does. 1595 01:23:27,634 --> 01:23:33,166 Ultimately, they had faith, strength, and survived. 1596 01:23:33,266 --> 01:23:36,266 So for their family and the town of Merrill, 1597 01:23:36,333 --> 01:23:42,266 I pray that demon conjured across the street will stay in hell where it belongs. 1598 01:23:43,533 --> 01:23:47,667 Me, I will continue to keep a watchful eye 1599 01:23:47,767 --> 01:23:51,000 because evil spirits never rest.