1 00:00:06,299 --> 00:00:08,259 THE FOLLOWING EPISODE CONTAINS DESCRIPTIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE 2 00:00:08,342 --> 00:00:09,635 WHICH MAY BE DISTURBING FOR SOME VIEWERS 3 00:00:09,719 --> 00:00:11,471 IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW HAS EXPERIENCED SEXUAL ABUSE 4 00:00:11,554 --> 00:00:13,973 PLEASE VISIT WANNATALKABOUTIT.COM FOR MORE INFORMATION AND CRISIS RESOURCES 5 00:00:20,688 --> 00:00:22,440 You've never thought it was wrong? 6 00:00:22,523 --> 00:00:23,357 No. 7 00:00:23,441 --> 00:00:25,651 -So you're always completely obedient? -Yeah. 8 00:00:26,152 --> 00:00:27,361 It's not even that weird. 9 00:00:27,445 --> 00:00:28,821 Why isn't it weird? 10 00:00:28,905 --> 00:00:30,656 Do you have to do everything he says? 11 00:00:30,740 --> 00:00:32,784 Like if he asks women to have sex with him? 12 00:00:33,701 --> 00:00:36,662 Pastor Lee is God. That makes everything okay. 13 00:00:36,746 --> 00:00:39,749 If the Father says it's not a sin, then it's not a sin. 14 00:00:42,418 --> 00:00:44,253 "Anyone in love would do this." 15 00:00:44,962 --> 00:00:46,089 Because he's God. 16 00:00:46,589 --> 00:00:50,259 He said, "I want to see your breasts." Then he asked me to take my clothes off. 17 00:00:50,968 --> 00:00:52,804 And he kept telling me to moan. 18 00:00:53,638 --> 00:00:57,016 He examines that "part" very closely. 19 00:00:57,100 --> 00:00:58,684 He just keeps staring at it. 20 00:01:00,144 --> 00:01:02,063 Even if people can see my flaws, 21 00:01:03,481 --> 00:01:05,149 even if I kissed someone, 22 00:01:06,234 --> 00:01:08,986 and even if I laid next to them, 23 00:01:09,070 --> 00:01:11,030 I believe that you will all forgive me. 24 00:01:11,531 --> 00:01:13,282 But I have no shame in front of God. 25 00:01:13,366 --> 00:01:15,326 I truly have no shame in front of God. 26 00:01:21,749 --> 00:01:22,792 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 27 00:01:24,043 --> 00:01:26,504 IN THE NAME OF GOD: A HOLY BETRAYAL 28 00:01:33,219 --> 00:01:38,975 GOD OF MANMIN WHO WENT TO PRISON 29 00:01:41,561 --> 00:01:44,021 Our beloved members of Manmin, 30 00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:48,734 welcome to the castle of the pastor. 31 00:01:54,282 --> 00:01:57,743 For the believers of Manmin, our Father is preparing 32 00:01:58,870 --> 00:02:02,165 a place as beautiful as this. 33 00:02:05,877 --> 00:02:07,712 So there are five levels to Heaven. 34 00:02:07,795 --> 00:02:09,130 So, on the first level, 35 00:02:10,256 --> 00:02:12,091 you enter a place called Paradise. 36 00:02:13,134 --> 00:02:15,386 The second level is the 1st Kingdom of Heaven. 37 00:02:16,804 --> 00:02:18,806 Above that is the 2nd Kingdom of Heaven. 38 00:02:20,016 --> 00:02:21,601 The 3rd Kingdom of Heaven next. 39 00:02:22,727 --> 00:02:24,687 At the very top is New Jerusalem. 40 00:02:27,523 --> 00:02:30,610 In Paradise, you just live in the grass fields forever. 41 00:02:31,402 --> 00:02:33,404 There are apartments in the 1st Kingdom. 42 00:02:33,487 --> 00:02:36,032 In the 2nd Kingdom, you get to live in a house. 43 00:02:36,115 --> 00:02:38,159 In the 3rd Kingdom, you are given a castle. 44 00:02:38,242 --> 00:02:42,496 You get an entire palace in New Jerusalem. That's what they teach you. 45 00:02:59,263 --> 00:03:00,097 Amen! 46 00:03:00,181 --> 00:03:04,227 Yes, it's very big. The main castles are as spacious 47 00:03:04,810 --> 00:03:09,106 as several millions of square meters. 48 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:12,401 There's an ocean there too and a lake that you all love. 49 00:03:12,485 --> 00:03:14,779 My goal in life was to end up there. 50 00:03:15,655 --> 00:03:16,697 The best place? 51 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,116 The place closest to the Throne of God. 52 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,118 They called it the Measure of Faith, 53 00:03:21,202 --> 00:03:23,204 and they started to take advantage of it. 54 00:03:23,287 --> 00:03:25,373 On a piece of paper, 55 00:03:25,456 --> 00:03:28,834 they would put a number to your current faith and hand that out. 56 00:03:28,918 --> 00:03:30,878 "Your faith is 30% on the second level." 57 00:03:30,962 --> 00:03:32,588 "Yours is 70% on the third level." 58 00:03:32,672 --> 00:03:35,216 So whilst people were going crazy over it, 59 00:03:35,716 --> 00:03:37,218 they were also anxious and tense. 60 00:03:37,301 --> 00:03:39,262 People who get a high Measure of Faith 61 00:03:39,345 --> 00:03:41,722 become celebrities and breeze through the ranks. 62 00:03:42,348 --> 00:03:46,602 But those who get a low Measure fall behind the others. 63 00:03:49,522 --> 00:03:52,400 I became so desperate to get a higher Measure of Faith. 64 00:03:52,483 --> 00:03:57,280 So I started to sow more, give more, and invest more. 65 00:03:58,906 --> 00:03:59,949 Yes! 66 00:04:00,032 --> 00:04:04,412 I think I got to three percent on the fourth level. 67 00:04:04,996 --> 00:04:09,208 I was around 40% on the third level. 68 00:04:09,292 --> 00:04:14,380 I was on the third level with 60-point-something percent. 69 00:04:14,463 --> 00:04:16,674 You were said to be on "the rock" 70 00:04:16,757 --> 00:04:18,801 if you were over 60% on the third level. 71 00:04:18,884 --> 00:04:20,386 I got there pretty early. 72 00:04:20,469 --> 00:04:22,513 I got there early, so I was very happy. 73 00:04:22,596 --> 00:04:24,849 I think I was around 800th place or something, 74 00:04:24,932 --> 00:04:26,642 out of 15,000 people. 75 00:04:27,310 --> 00:04:28,853 It was like your rank in Heaven. 76 00:04:28,936 --> 00:04:32,189 So 800th place was a very impressive rank. 77 00:04:32,273 --> 00:04:33,941 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 78 00:04:34,025 --> 00:04:36,110 If you never climbed up to "the rock," 79 00:04:36,777 --> 00:04:39,322 if you never received a single word for years, 80 00:04:39,405 --> 00:04:41,866 if you never received the Measure for a long time, 81 00:04:42,992 --> 00:04:45,202 there's a reason why you haven't made it yet. 82 00:04:45,286 --> 00:04:46,912 You need to find out the reason. 83 00:04:46,996 --> 00:04:50,541 Looking back, people who paid a lot got a good Measure of Faith, 84 00:04:50,624 --> 00:04:52,418 and those who didn't pay a lot didn't. 85 00:04:52,501 --> 00:04:54,420 That's the conclusion I've come to. 86 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:06,015 THOU SHALT NOT STEAL 87 00:05:06,098 --> 00:05:07,350 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 88 00:05:07,433 --> 00:05:09,935 In a way, you could say this sermon 89 00:05:10,019 --> 00:05:13,856 is actually a continuation of the sermon on Hell. 90 00:05:13,939 --> 00:05:15,983 If you don't pay your tithe and offerings, 91 00:05:16,067 --> 00:05:20,154 you must know that God will place a curse upon you. 92 00:05:20,237 --> 00:05:21,072 Amen. 93 00:05:21,155 --> 00:05:22,448 I see it way too often. 94 00:05:23,074 --> 00:05:25,951 See, if someone gets into a car crash 95 00:05:26,035 --> 00:05:29,705 and breaks and shatters their bones 96 00:05:29,789 --> 00:05:32,666 or suffers a brain hemorrhage, 97 00:05:33,417 --> 00:05:35,961 it's always the same answer. It's obvious. 98 00:05:36,545 --> 00:05:38,339 They didn't pay proper tithes, right? 99 00:05:49,809 --> 00:05:52,561 An offering of thanks, sanctuary-building offering, 100 00:05:53,145 --> 00:05:55,648 charity offering, special offering, 101 00:05:56,232 --> 00:05:59,318 offerings made in group services, the Feast of Harvest offering, 102 00:05:59,902 --> 00:06:01,028 Easter offering. 103 00:06:01,612 --> 00:06:03,823 There was also a Christmas offering 104 00:06:04,407 --> 00:06:05,658 and a tithe. 105 00:06:06,242 --> 00:06:07,952 The tithe was made before the tax. 106 00:06:10,538 --> 00:06:13,457 Some say that they can't pay the tithe 107 00:06:13,541 --> 00:06:16,669 because they're unemployed and don't have an income. 108 00:06:16,752 --> 00:06:19,964 But every single person can pay the tithe. 109 00:06:20,047 --> 00:06:24,260 Even very young children have income from New Year's, allowances, 110 00:06:24,343 --> 00:06:28,097 100-day celebrations, first birthdays, and other birthdays. 111 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:34,145 The parents can pay the tithe in their child's name with that income. 112 00:06:39,316 --> 00:06:43,070 There are two ways to give money in Manmin Central Church. 113 00:06:43,154 --> 00:06:44,697 Offerings and gifts. 114 00:06:44,780 --> 00:06:48,325 Offerings are what you call the money you give in offering envelopes. 115 00:06:48,409 --> 00:06:50,369 But gifts are money given unofficially. 116 00:06:51,203 --> 00:06:53,122 So, offerings are a separate thing. 117 00:06:53,205 --> 00:06:56,000 The members pay offerings and gifts separately, 118 00:06:56,083 --> 00:06:59,587 so the members of the church really don't have any money to live. 119 00:06:59,670 --> 00:07:02,423 Despite all that, they scrape together some money, 120 00:07:02,506 --> 00:07:04,967 even if they went into debt, to sow their offerings. 121 00:07:05,050 --> 00:07:10,473 He put the church members in competition against one another 122 00:07:10,556 --> 00:07:13,017 to see who pays the most. "So-and-so gets first place." 123 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:16,520 "This elder gets second place. That elder gets third place." 124 00:07:17,313 --> 00:07:19,023 "Lee Kwang-oh is in seventh place." 125 00:07:19,106 --> 00:07:23,944 I think I paid over a billion won over the course of 24 years. 126 00:07:24,028 --> 00:07:26,947 I think my entire family paid over a billion won too. 127 00:07:27,031 --> 00:07:31,952 At the very least, it's 800 million. But I think I paid over a billion won. 128 00:07:32,453 --> 00:07:35,956 There were so many people that were taken advantage of financially. 129 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,418 These people dedicated their whole lives to giving offerings to the church. 130 00:07:39,502 --> 00:07:42,171 He's an atrocious man 131 00:07:42,254 --> 00:07:48,177 who brainwashed them all and then used that for his own gain. 132 00:07:55,601 --> 00:07:58,729 Many members of Manmin Central Church 133 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:02,691 have a very low quality of life. 134 00:08:02,775 --> 00:08:04,693 In terms of monthly earnings, 135 00:08:04,777 --> 00:08:09,949 it's probably fair to say most members are at the bottom of the ladder. 136 00:08:10,032 --> 00:08:13,285 Despite that, they gave a lot of offerings to the church. 137 00:08:13,369 --> 00:08:14,328 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 138 00:08:14,411 --> 00:08:17,498 How did that happen? The members would work part-time. 139 00:08:17,581 --> 00:08:19,458 Hey, bring this to that table. 140 00:08:22,086 --> 00:08:25,714 These housewives worked so hard to earn that money. 141 00:08:27,550 --> 00:08:29,260 Five million, ten million won. 142 00:08:29,343 --> 00:08:31,387 Not only did they barely have enough to live, 143 00:08:31,470 --> 00:08:33,430 but a lot of them also went into debt. 144 00:08:33,514 --> 00:08:35,975 You usually leave the church after a service, right? 145 00:08:36,058 --> 00:08:39,812 But in Manmin Central Church, the members all line up after a service. 146 00:08:41,021 --> 00:08:43,524 -Pastor Lee! -Pastor Lee! 147 00:08:43,607 --> 00:08:44,817 Pastor Lee! 148 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:47,111 Our entire family supports you! 149 00:08:47,194 --> 00:08:48,487 Sure. Thank you. 150 00:08:48,571 --> 00:08:52,199 If you grabbed Lee Jae-rock's hand and asked him to pray, his car stopped. 151 00:08:54,952 --> 00:08:58,872 Then a member might get a minute of prayer, 20 seconds, or 30 seconds. 152 00:09:00,416 --> 00:09:03,210 There's someone in the car collecting the money envelopes. 153 00:09:03,294 --> 00:09:05,504 He's the director of planning. 154 00:09:05,588 --> 00:09:08,173 As far as I know, there were thousands of people 155 00:09:08,257 --> 00:09:11,927 who paid millions of won in offerings to receive his benediction. 156 00:09:12,011 --> 00:09:14,555 May Jesus lay his hand upon you in prayer. 157 00:09:14,638 --> 00:09:15,514 Amen. 158 00:09:15,598 --> 00:09:18,767 Show us the inspiration, influence, and greatness of the Holy Spirit. 159 00:09:18,851 --> 00:09:19,727 Amen. 160 00:09:19,810 --> 00:09:21,687 We pray you'll surround us with light. 161 00:09:21,770 --> 00:09:22,688 Amen. 162 00:09:22,771 --> 00:09:25,357 So, there is a missionary meeting for businesspeople, 163 00:09:25,441 --> 00:09:27,318 influential people who paid a lot. 164 00:09:27,401 --> 00:09:29,528 We were invited to that meeting. 165 00:09:29,612 --> 00:09:33,657 When you go, they collect around three to five million won from each person. 166 00:09:33,741 --> 00:09:35,534 The tithe from August… 167 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,247 There were six or seven people who said 168 00:09:40,331 --> 00:09:42,541 they will pay more than ten million won, 169 00:09:43,042 --> 00:09:44,793 but now, there are more than 12. 170 00:09:44,877 --> 00:09:45,711 Amen. 171 00:09:45,794 --> 00:09:48,255 -I'll become your joy, Father. -Sure. All right. 172 00:09:48,339 --> 00:09:50,132 Let's go to the car to receive prayers. 173 00:09:50,215 --> 00:09:51,467 -Sure. -Over here. 174 00:09:52,384 --> 00:09:54,345 -Okay. -Come on, come out. 175 00:09:54,428 --> 00:09:56,472 -Yes. -Let us have a hug. 176 00:09:56,972 --> 00:09:59,266 I got a new car for you, Pastor Lee. 177 00:09:59,767 --> 00:10:01,268 Where is it from? 178 00:10:01,352 --> 00:10:03,103 Germany. It's a German car. 179 00:10:04,063 --> 00:10:08,150 -Our Father, please bless this car. -Amen. 180 00:10:08,233 --> 00:10:10,027 -Please bless the key as well. -Amen. 181 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:11,654 -Bless your light upon it. -Amen. 182 00:10:11,737 --> 00:10:13,906 I pray in the name of Jesus Christ. 183 00:10:13,989 --> 00:10:15,199 -Amen. -Amen. 184 00:10:18,952 --> 00:10:21,664 You had to pay to take a picture with Pastor Lee. 185 00:10:22,748 --> 00:10:24,958 I don't remember the exact amount, 186 00:10:25,042 --> 00:10:27,586 but it started around hundreds of thousands of won. 187 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:32,007 Later, there were so many members hoping to take a picture with Pastor Lee. 188 00:10:32,091 --> 00:10:34,510 I remember the price going up to at least a million. 189 00:10:34,593 --> 00:10:38,222 I'm pretty sure I gave ten million won in offerings to take this picture. 190 00:10:54,154 --> 00:10:56,031 These are all pictures I paid to have taken. 191 00:10:58,367 --> 00:11:00,661 I had over 40 of those framed pictures. 192 00:11:06,083 --> 00:11:09,378 Let's say one costs 10 million won, that's over 200 million in total. 193 00:11:11,296 --> 00:11:14,425 Manmin Central Church had a bookstore called Manmin Bookstore. 194 00:11:15,551 --> 00:11:17,720 They sold framed pictures of Lee Jae-rock 195 00:11:17,803 --> 00:11:22,099 or key rings or notebooks, merchandise like that. 196 00:11:22,182 --> 00:11:24,309 So people buy these things one by one. 197 00:11:24,393 --> 00:11:27,104 In a way, it's a really shrewd business. 198 00:11:27,187 --> 00:11:30,607 The funniest one for me was Muan Sweet Water. 199 00:11:34,111 --> 00:11:37,239 These people put Muan Sweet Water in these spray bottles 200 00:11:37,322 --> 00:11:39,199 to make it easier to use too. 201 00:11:39,283 --> 00:11:41,618 It was incredulous. Then they would sell them. 202 00:11:41,702 --> 00:11:43,996 You could spray it on to get double eyelids. 203 00:11:44,580 --> 00:11:47,374 A broken washing machine would work again if you spray on it. 204 00:11:49,001 --> 00:11:52,838 Muan Sweet Water worked its miracle on a broken washing machine as well. 205 00:11:52,921 --> 00:11:55,966 After I sprayed the Sweet Water, tightened it, and turned it back on, 206 00:11:56,049 --> 00:11:57,384 the water didn't leak at all. 207 00:11:57,468 --> 00:12:00,012 So when I turn it on now, it's working fine, 208 00:12:00,095 --> 00:12:01,930 so everything turned out well like this. 209 00:12:02,014 --> 00:12:03,724 I think it's because it's so cold. 210 00:12:04,308 --> 00:12:05,809 Oh, no. It's not opening. 211 00:12:05,893 --> 00:12:08,270 The door remained locked for over 50 minutes, 212 00:12:08,353 --> 00:12:10,063 but it opened with a "click" 213 00:12:10,898 --> 00:12:13,233 after it was sprayed with Muan Sweet Water. 214 00:12:21,909 --> 00:12:25,621 To Manmin Central Church, Muan Sweet Water is like a cure-all 215 00:12:25,704 --> 00:12:27,623 for the members of the church. 216 00:12:27,706 --> 00:12:31,919 They say there's this light, this power in this Muan Sweet Water 217 00:12:32,002 --> 00:12:35,255 because Lee Jae-rock prayed over it. 218 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:39,343 So, they claim that you can experience a miracle 219 00:12:39,426 --> 00:12:42,387 if you drink the water or put it on yourself. 220 00:12:49,019 --> 00:12:50,854 There was a thing called the mailbox 221 00:12:50,938 --> 00:12:53,357 that was like ARS that you could call. 222 00:12:53,899 --> 00:12:57,528 And you could listen to pre-recorded messages from Pastor Lee. 223 00:12:57,611 --> 00:12:59,446 This is Manmin Central Church. 224 00:12:59,530 --> 00:13:02,449 Press ten to start your day with Pastor Lee's prayers. 225 00:13:02,533 --> 00:13:04,284 Press 20 to hear a prayer for safety. 226 00:13:04,368 --> 00:13:07,704 Press 30 for a three-minute sermon. Press 40 for a prayer for the ill. 227 00:13:07,788 --> 00:13:10,582 Before my grandfather passed away, 228 00:13:11,166 --> 00:13:12,876 he was in the hospital. 229 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,753 I really wanted him to get better. 230 00:13:14,837 --> 00:13:18,924 So, I remember playing Lee Jae-rock's prayers for the ill for him. 231 00:13:19,758 --> 00:13:22,427 Let me begin the prayer for the ill. 232 00:13:22,511 --> 00:13:25,639 Place your hand on the place where it hurts or feels weak. 233 00:13:25,722 --> 00:13:28,308 If you're not ill, place your hand over your heart… 234 00:13:28,392 --> 00:13:30,018 He listened to it for a while, 235 00:13:30,686 --> 00:13:34,314 then he looked at me like he wanted me to take the earphones out. 236 00:13:34,398 --> 00:13:39,027 But I remember I made him listen to the whole thing as I wanted him to. 237 00:13:40,195 --> 00:13:44,449 I should have just spoken to him more or gone on a trip with him. 238 00:13:49,538 --> 00:13:51,665 In actuality, it's all about money in the end. 239 00:13:51,748 --> 00:13:53,917 The church is denying it, 240 00:13:54,001 --> 00:13:57,004 but they saved up an enormous amount of money. 241 00:13:57,796 --> 00:13:59,381 If you paid over three million won, 242 00:13:59,464 --> 00:14:01,967 you could meet Lee with others who also paid the same. 243 00:14:02,050 --> 00:14:05,220 Those who paid over five million would meet him together. 244 00:14:05,304 --> 00:14:07,014 The same for ten million won. 245 00:14:07,097 --> 00:14:09,266 If you paid the most, you'd meet him privately. 246 00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:11,560 Those people usually paid around 100 million won. 247 00:14:12,686 --> 00:14:15,689 How did the church treat the people who paid that much money? 248 00:14:16,315 --> 00:14:17,858 The church 249 00:14:17,941 --> 00:14:21,528 basically treated you like a VIP, more or less. 250 00:14:22,112 --> 00:14:24,781 There were people who were dressed in really pretty hanbok. 251 00:14:24,865 --> 00:14:26,950 Those people came to reserve 252 00:14:27,826 --> 00:14:31,330 special seats for us, right at the very front of the hall. 253 00:14:31,914 --> 00:14:34,708 That basically makes you the envy of Manmin Central Church. 254 00:14:34,791 --> 00:14:37,336 "Wow, that's not a place for just anybody." 255 00:14:37,419 --> 00:14:40,964 "They must have given a lot of offerings and sowed a lot to Pastor Lee." 256 00:14:41,048 --> 00:14:45,010 Honestly, back then, it felt pretty nice. 257 00:14:45,093 --> 00:14:48,388 Because of that, my dad paid at least three million, 258 00:14:48,472 --> 00:14:51,391 up to tens of millions of won each year at the devotion worship 259 00:14:51,475 --> 00:14:53,727 to have my older sister sit at the very front. 260 00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:57,773 If you gave more money, you got the right to sit up front. 261 00:14:59,483 --> 00:15:01,526 Why is it important to sit in the front row? 262 00:15:02,027 --> 00:15:05,197 Because you got to be the closest to Pastor Lee. 263 00:15:10,410 --> 00:15:14,373 THOU SHALT NOT KILL 264 00:15:16,625 --> 00:15:20,837 Illnesses happen as a result of the curse of sins. 265 00:15:20,921 --> 00:15:23,298 You'll never be ill if you don't sin. 266 00:15:23,382 --> 00:15:27,469 Have you ever seen anyone become ill when they obey the words and never sin? 267 00:15:27,552 --> 00:15:28,512 Amen. 268 00:15:29,596 --> 00:15:31,348 If you catch a deadly illness, 269 00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:35,268 it means that you committed a sin worthy of death, a sin that will lead to death. 270 00:15:35,852 --> 00:15:38,563 "Only the sinners get ill. You're ill because you sinned." 271 00:15:38,647 --> 00:15:42,651 People thought that going to the hospital reflected a lack of faith. 272 00:15:42,734 --> 00:15:45,946 That's because Lee Jae-rock was always proud to say, 273 00:15:46,738 --> 00:15:48,240 "Our members never get sick." 274 00:15:48,323 --> 00:15:51,952 In reality, they were very minor illnesses that could have been cured 275 00:15:52,035 --> 00:15:54,579 if they were treated early on. 276 00:15:54,663 --> 00:15:58,250 But because they just prayed about it, many people died from tuberculosis. 277 00:15:58,333 --> 00:16:00,752 It's been with the church for a long time. 278 00:16:00,836 --> 00:16:03,380 You could even say it's a part of the church's history. 279 00:16:04,006 --> 00:16:06,341 The Performing Arts Committee members 280 00:16:06,425 --> 00:16:09,302 are in their twenties or thirties on average. 281 00:16:09,386 --> 00:16:13,724 They all sing and dance together. 282 00:16:13,807 --> 00:16:15,100 They're also young, 283 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,310 so they are more active. 284 00:16:17,394 --> 00:16:18,562 Fruits of joy 285 00:16:18,645 --> 00:16:19,813 Fruits of joy 286 00:16:22,816 --> 00:16:25,235 I am changed 287 00:16:25,318 --> 00:16:27,863 I am changed 288 00:16:27,946 --> 00:16:31,241 His love saved me 289 00:16:31,324 --> 00:16:36,705 So many beautiful people ended up passing away like that. 290 00:16:40,917 --> 00:16:42,210 My wife… 291 00:16:44,296 --> 00:16:47,132 She passed away in 2006. 292 00:16:52,429 --> 00:16:55,474 Hello, dear beloved believers. I'm Kim… 293 00:16:55,557 --> 00:16:57,642 After the 100th episode special, 294 00:16:57,726 --> 00:17:00,979 God showed his great power through Pastor Lee… 295 00:17:01,063 --> 00:17:01,980 She was 296 00:17:02,064 --> 00:17:05,567 this really pretty girl who was a part of the Hallelujah Praising Team. 297 00:17:05,650 --> 00:17:10,906 She was so slender and had this super feminine voice. 298 00:17:13,575 --> 00:17:15,118 She was brushing her teeth, 299 00:17:15,202 --> 00:17:18,038 then she ran up to me with toothpaste still in her mouth, 300 00:17:19,956 --> 00:17:21,166 saying she was bleeding. 301 00:17:22,626 --> 00:17:24,961 So I said we should go to the hospital, and… 302 00:17:28,965 --> 00:17:30,050 She had tuberculosis. 303 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,012 Faith was supposed to be our treatment, 304 00:17:34,679 --> 00:17:36,681 and she was in the faithful praise team. 305 00:17:37,933 --> 00:17:39,810 So, when we first found out about it, 306 00:17:42,020 --> 00:17:44,147 she said she'd get treatment through faith. 307 00:17:47,859 --> 00:17:51,029 She said, "I was supposed to only love Lee Jae-rock." 308 00:17:51,113 --> 00:17:55,909 "I got this illness because I got married, and I'm going to die from it." 309 00:17:56,409 --> 00:17:58,495 So she was a sinner even as she died. 310 00:18:00,122 --> 00:18:01,873 If you catch a deadly illness, 311 00:18:01,957 --> 00:18:04,376 it means that you committed a sin worthy of death, 312 00:18:04,459 --> 00:18:05,836 a sin that will lead to death. 313 00:18:28,942 --> 00:18:30,569 When she was about to pass away, 314 00:18:32,154 --> 00:18:32,988 she was… 315 00:18:33,864 --> 00:18:35,031 so skinny. 316 00:18:36,158 --> 00:18:38,702 And her lungs were basically gone. 317 00:18:41,621 --> 00:18:42,497 And she… 318 00:18:44,875 --> 00:18:46,126 She died a painful death. 319 00:19:01,349 --> 00:19:06,104 Even aside from tuberculosis, a lot of people suffered from cancer. 320 00:19:06,188 --> 00:19:08,940 When I saw that happen, I thought, "What is faith?" 321 00:19:09,024 --> 00:19:12,027 "Is it really faith to stop people from going to hospitals, 322 00:19:12,110 --> 00:19:14,279 causing many people to die like this?" 323 00:19:14,362 --> 00:19:15,530 That's what I thought. 324 00:19:19,659 --> 00:19:22,954 THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY 325 00:19:23,038 --> 00:19:27,959 The reason you're affected by evil spirits, 326 00:19:28,043 --> 00:19:29,502 as also mentioned in the sermon, 327 00:19:29,586 --> 00:19:32,172 is because of adultery. People who commit adultery. 328 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:36,468 They are possessed by evil spirits, but they have no idea. 329 00:19:38,136 --> 00:19:40,430 They have adulterous spirits, so they want to do it. 330 00:19:40,513 --> 00:19:43,266 So they keep doing it, also committing crimes. 331 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:46,770 They don't realize they're possessed and controlled by the evil spirits. 332 00:19:46,853 --> 00:19:50,482 Lee Jae-rock always emphasized adultery. 333 00:19:50,565 --> 00:19:52,317 Relationships between men and women. 334 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,402 And he always said, 335 00:19:54,486 --> 00:19:56,905 "As I don't have any adulterous spirits in me, 336 00:19:56,988 --> 00:19:58,490 even when I see a naked woman, 337 00:19:58,573 --> 00:20:00,659 I don't feel anything." He said it quite often. 338 00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:05,330 At one point, they started to divide up the men and women. 339 00:20:06,957 --> 00:20:09,042 They said, "Don't sit next to each other." 340 00:20:09,125 --> 00:20:11,044 "Don't even be in the same space." 341 00:20:11,127 --> 00:20:13,088 For example, a man and a woman 342 00:20:13,171 --> 00:20:15,257 couldn't talk to each other directly. 343 00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:16,716 So, what do you need to do? 344 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,718 You had to talk to the other person 345 00:20:19,552 --> 00:20:21,846 through your female sibling, 346 00:20:21,930 --> 00:20:23,473 or someone like that. 347 00:20:23,556 --> 00:20:28,812 In my case, my younger sister would relay my message, 348 00:20:28,895 --> 00:20:31,189 and when the other person gave her a response, 349 00:20:31,273 --> 00:20:32,941 she passed that message on to me. 350 00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:38,905 There was an incident involving the letters of repentance in 2010. 351 00:20:40,156 --> 00:20:42,659 "It turns out that the members have too many sins." 352 00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:44,828 "All of you have led such sinful lives." 353 00:20:44,911 --> 00:20:47,455 I did not think 354 00:20:47,539 --> 00:20:50,625 that such sinners 355 00:20:50,709 --> 00:20:52,669 would be a part of our church. 356 00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:54,879 There are some people 357 00:20:54,963 --> 00:20:57,924 who gave in to their sexual desires and acted indecently. 358 00:20:58,008 --> 00:21:02,053 They said, "If you write a letter to Lee Jae-rock about your wrongdoings, 359 00:21:02,137 --> 00:21:03,555 your sins will be forgiven." 360 00:21:03,638 --> 00:21:05,849 I have cried out in tears… 361 00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:17,986 I cried out so that not a single soul would go to Hell, but… 362 00:21:21,573 --> 00:21:23,533 But I didn't know it'd be this bad. 363 00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:32,042 I didn't know this pain would make my life so unbearable. 364 00:21:33,209 --> 00:21:37,464 Please show compassion for us during this time and forgive us. 365 00:21:38,131 --> 00:21:39,591 Your son begs of you. 366 00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:47,140 I'm begging you. 367 00:21:51,019 --> 00:21:53,980 We had to confess our biggest secrets and weaknesses. 368 00:21:54,564 --> 00:21:57,650 I had to remember holding hands with somebody when I was seven 369 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:01,154 and what I did with some upperclassman when I was 20. 370 00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:04,240 "What about with an underclassman?" 371 00:22:04,324 --> 00:22:07,660 I had to remember everything and try to put it down. 372 00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:09,287 That's what happened. 373 00:22:09,788 --> 00:22:12,457 Once everybody started writing their letters of repentance, 374 00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:16,044 it became a mandatory thing for all the church members. 375 00:22:16,127 --> 00:22:18,296 Without writing a letter of repentance, 376 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:22,675 you'd be on the edge of a cliff, questioning whether you'd be saved or not. 377 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:28,014 If you are still committing those deadly sins, 378 00:22:28,932 --> 00:22:31,017 do you not feel bad for your poor pastor? 379 00:22:31,601 --> 00:22:33,395 Is it really that hard to believe? 380 00:22:33,478 --> 00:22:36,648 If you commit a deadly sin, you'll die. 381 00:22:36,731 --> 00:22:39,401 Just like it says in the Bible. There is no salvation. 382 00:22:40,151 --> 00:22:42,320 You know, this topic is kind of… 383 00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:44,406 I feel kind of bad talking about this. 384 00:22:44,989 --> 00:22:46,783 This might really hurt that person. 385 00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:49,619 Because their family is still having a really hard time. 386 00:22:51,246 --> 00:22:54,374 He was a bit… 387 00:22:56,334 --> 00:22:59,671 He was a person with a free spirit. He dated a lot of people. 388 00:23:00,630 --> 00:23:03,800 He was a huge extrovert, you know? 389 00:23:06,970 --> 00:23:10,557 PLEASE NOTE THIS FOOTAGE IS NOT RELATED TO THE ACTUAL VICTIM 390 00:23:15,353 --> 00:23:19,941 He ran into several problems with women. 391 00:23:20,024 --> 00:23:23,695 Then Lee Jae-rock found out about those problems with women. 392 00:23:24,571 --> 00:23:28,741 Then that ended up being a huge disadvantage for him. 393 00:23:28,825 --> 00:23:31,786 He said, "You can't be saved." Simply, "It's a work of the flesh." 394 00:23:32,662 --> 00:23:34,914 He cut his thing off. 395 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,626 He cut his genitals off. 396 00:23:39,836 --> 00:23:42,255 You could see biological and physical differences. 397 00:23:42,338 --> 00:23:44,215 He started to become more feminine. 398 00:23:44,299 --> 00:23:46,509 He was a bodyguard who enjoyed exercising. 399 00:23:47,719 --> 00:23:48,887 But he's so skinny now. 400 00:23:49,596 --> 00:23:51,890 He has no muscles and no facial hair either. 401 00:23:53,016 --> 00:23:56,394 Those things shouldn't have happened. They were just illogical. 402 00:23:56,478 --> 00:23:59,022 And they didn't just happen to one or two people. 403 00:23:59,105 --> 00:24:02,609 There are at least around ten people just from what I know. 404 00:24:03,776 --> 00:24:07,197 He had such blind faith and thought it was the right thing to do. 405 00:24:07,822 --> 00:24:10,325 Who on earth cuts it off? But he ended up doing it. 406 00:24:11,367 --> 00:24:12,911 I looked into it as well. 407 00:24:15,788 --> 00:24:18,708 And when I looked into it, he told me where in Gangwon-do it was, 408 00:24:18,791 --> 00:24:20,251 as well as how much it had cost. 409 00:24:20,335 --> 00:24:21,461 It was done illegally. 410 00:24:21,961 --> 00:24:25,173 He said it took three to five days to recover from the surgery. 411 00:24:25,256 --> 00:24:26,758 He said it wasn't that hard. 412 00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:34,224 Lee Jae-rock was especially sensitive 413 00:24:35,183 --> 00:24:38,561 about things like dating someone from the Performing Arts Committee. 414 00:24:42,232 --> 00:24:45,193 There were many pretty girls in Manmin, like I said. 415 00:24:45,276 --> 00:24:48,655 I think he thought that all of those girls belonged to him. 416 00:24:48,738 --> 00:24:53,368 But if they dated or slept with another man, 417 00:24:53,451 --> 00:24:56,371 I think he considered them dirty or contaminated. 418 00:24:56,454 --> 00:24:58,998 Why? Because he had to have them. 419 00:24:59,082 --> 00:25:00,959 Because other men can't have them. 420 00:25:11,427 --> 00:25:13,972 Manmin Central Church's Pastor Lee is being accused 421 00:25:14,055 --> 00:25:15,932 of sexually assaulting nine women… 422 00:25:16,516 --> 00:25:18,851 The police believe that the sexual assault 423 00:25:18,935 --> 00:25:21,104 happened frequently over a long period of time. 424 00:25:23,606 --> 00:25:25,441 You denied all of your charges. 425 00:25:25,525 --> 00:25:27,151 Are you saying you didn't have sex? 426 00:25:27,235 --> 00:25:30,113 This is dangerous. Please, he's walking here… 427 00:25:30,196 --> 00:25:32,031 -Are you denying you had sex? -He's hurt… 428 00:25:32,115 --> 00:25:33,700 Go. You can just go. 429 00:25:33,783 --> 00:25:37,287 Are you denying the intercourse or just the sexual assault? 430 00:25:37,370 --> 00:25:39,163 -Excuse me. -I denied everything. 431 00:25:39,247 --> 00:25:41,916 Then why did you call for your followers at night? 432 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,461 They hated it when you asked for sex. Why did you call them at night? 433 00:25:45,545 --> 00:25:46,838 I never did that. 434 00:25:46,921 --> 00:25:48,339 -You never did that? -No. 435 00:25:48,423 --> 00:25:50,133 -Any words… -Ms. Choi, excuse us. 436 00:25:50,216 --> 00:25:52,969 -Any words of apology for the victims? -Uh, Ms. Choi. 437 00:25:53,845 --> 00:25:55,305 Excuse me, Ms. Choi. 438 00:25:58,641 --> 00:25:59,976 Watch your legs, sir. 439 00:26:03,646 --> 00:26:06,566 Well, it was just unbelievable. It was unbelievable. 440 00:26:06,649 --> 00:26:09,611 I was like, "Something like this couldn't happen." 441 00:26:09,694 --> 00:26:10,653 I mean… 442 00:26:10,737 --> 00:26:14,032 Who could have imagined that he could be a sex offender? 443 00:26:14,616 --> 00:26:16,159 I thought they were false rumors. 444 00:26:16,242 --> 00:26:18,453 Manmin Church and its members 445 00:26:18,536 --> 00:26:22,123 do not acknowledge the claims of Pastor Lee's sexual assault. 446 00:26:22,206 --> 00:26:25,418 We believe that such accusations will be revealed to be false, 447 00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:26,461 as we're waiting. 448 00:26:27,086 --> 00:26:30,923 Number one, stop all false claims right now! 449 00:26:31,007 --> 00:26:34,260 Stop them! 450 00:26:34,344 --> 00:26:38,514 Manmin will prove Pastor Lee's innocence. 451 00:26:38,598 --> 00:26:41,517 We'll prove it! 452 00:26:41,601 --> 00:26:44,187 When we first started gathering material for this piece, 453 00:26:44,687 --> 00:26:48,483 we thought he was just a leader of a cult. 454 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:54,739 But we never imagined that he was such a serious criminal. 455 00:26:54,822 --> 00:26:57,825 Another sexual assault victim filed a lawsuit 456 00:26:57,909 --> 00:27:00,328 against Pastor Lee Jae-rock of Manmin Central Church, 457 00:27:00,411 --> 00:27:04,666 who is being investigated for sexually assaulting his followers. 458 00:27:04,749 --> 00:27:05,958 Reporter Lee Moon-hyeon. 459 00:27:07,001 --> 00:27:10,713 She says she was sexually assaulted by Pastor Lee of Manmin Central Church… 460 00:27:11,255 --> 00:27:12,548 The female victim 461 00:27:13,174 --> 00:27:16,344 was like a leader 462 00:27:16,427 --> 00:27:19,222 among the younger church members. 463 00:27:19,305 --> 00:27:20,431 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 464 00:27:20,515 --> 00:27:23,601 She brought in the evidence, 465 00:27:24,227 --> 00:27:27,021 as well as the pictures that she took with Lee Jae-rock. 466 00:27:30,233 --> 00:27:36,406 Up until now, I learned things like virtue, honesty, and love. 467 00:27:36,906 --> 00:27:38,741 I loved learning about those things… 468 00:27:40,660 --> 00:27:45,581 She was very specific about the last time, as well as the location, 469 00:27:45,665 --> 00:27:48,876 she had been sexually assaulted by Lee Jae-rock. 470 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,714 These are information only the victim herself would know, 471 00:27:52,797 --> 00:27:54,507 so I knew I could trust her story. 472 00:27:58,261 --> 00:28:04,308 She said she first received a call from Lee Jae-rock in 2011. 473 00:28:11,607 --> 00:28:12,900 Yeah, all right. 474 00:28:15,486 --> 00:28:19,574 She said she was ecstatic. You see, she was born with the religion. 475 00:28:20,825 --> 00:28:24,162 This man who she believed to be God, to be the absolute good, 476 00:28:24,245 --> 00:28:27,373 who she thought was so noble, had given her a call. 477 00:28:28,166 --> 00:28:32,920 "Oh, maybe he wants to talk to me about my Measure of Faith in private." 478 00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:37,049 "Or maybe he'll assign me a duty and title." 479 00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:50,229 He said, "Yeah, right here. You can come to the apartment." 480 00:28:50,897 --> 00:28:54,609 "Nobody knows about this place, so come without telling anybody." 481 00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:02,658 I took a taxi. I took a taxi there. 482 00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:07,789 He was pretty careful. He said, "Don't use a card. Use cash." 483 00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:21,302 They wanted to show Pastor Lee their conviction, 484 00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:23,137 so they dipped into their savings, 485 00:29:23,221 --> 00:29:26,057 withdrew the money in cash, and put it in an envelope. 486 00:29:26,140 --> 00:29:29,852 Then they changed into their cleanest and whitest clothes. 487 00:29:30,728 --> 00:29:34,148 I felt so nervous when I pressed the doorbell. 488 00:29:36,776 --> 00:29:38,361 I was praying on my way there. 489 00:29:39,195 --> 00:29:43,616 Then even the way he poked his head out was so shocking to me. 490 00:29:46,661 --> 00:29:50,206 As soon as I went inside, I saw a large mattress in the living room. 491 00:30:24,574 --> 00:30:28,077 The stories of the victims were eerily similar. 492 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,496 They were all invited to his house out of the blue. 493 00:30:36,794 --> 00:30:38,379 He told them, "I am God." 494 00:30:38,462 --> 00:30:42,008 "So, there's nothing wrong with the things that will happen here." 495 00:30:42,091 --> 00:30:46,888 Or he said, "This is the Garden of Eden. Therefore, you must not be clothed." 496 00:30:46,971 --> 00:30:49,390 That's what he told the victims. 497 00:30:49,473 --> 00:30:51,559 And also, the sad thing is 498 00:30:52,059 --> 00:30:55,688 that the victims didn't realize what was happening to them. 499 00:30:57,064 --> 00:30:58,733 I couldn't think straight. 500 00:30:58,816 --> 00:31:00,860 TESTIMONY OF A FEMALE VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT 501 00:31:00,943 --> 00:31:01,861 "What's going on?" 502 00:31:02,486 --> 00:31:05,197 "Is it okay for him to do this because he's sinless?" 503 00:31:05,281 --> 00:31:07,700 "Wait, what is this? What's going on?" 504 00:31:09,785 --> 00:31:12,496 "Oh, this must be his grace to protect me from other men, 505 00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:15,625 so that I can love only the Father." 506 00:31:17,293 --> 00:31:19,587 As I prayed for about a month, 507 00:31:19,670 --> 00:31:22,256 I think I decided to accept it, thinking, 508 00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:24,842 "Oh, that must have truly been God's grace." 509 00:31:47,782 --> 00:31:49,700 He wasn't God. He was the Devil. 510 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:55,122 He said, "Just by touching my body, you'll be healed." 511 00:31:55,206 --> 00:31:57,833 He also said, "You are in the presence of God." 512 00:31:57,917 --> 00:32:00,753 "You'll go to Heaven. You'll be saved." 513 00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:03,172 He was the Devil pretending to be a sheep. 514 00:32:09,387 --> 00:32:11,097 He started unclasping my bra. 515 00:32:11,180 --> 00:32:15,393 I was really surprised because he was so good at it. 516 00:32:16,143 --> 00:32:18,062 "Who does your ***** belong to, Jeong-hye?" 517 00:32:18,646 --> 00:32:21,857 He examines that "part" very closely. 518 00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:24,652 He just keeps staring at it. 519 00:32:28,030 --> 00:32:31,409 He brought my face closer to his genitals. 520 00:32:32,034 --> 00:32:34,787 Then he said, "That's not how you do it." 521 00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:36,539 "It hurts if you use your teeth." 522 00:32:38,374 --> 00:32:42,962 While we were having intercourse, he kept asking me if it felt good. 523 00:32:43,045 --> 00:32:45,006 And he kept telling me to moan. 524 00:32:45,506 --> 00:32:47,133 He was like, "Do you like that?" 525 00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:53,264 You know, everyone just watches on as he has sex with my friends. 526 00:33:01,647 --> 00:33:05,317 He told us to watch some porn and practice because we were too inexperienced. 527 00:33:06,068 --> 00:33:11,240 So the assistant would play porn for us, and you'd hear moaning. 528 00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:15,202 PLEASE NOTE THIS FOOTAGE IS NOT RELATED TO THE ACTUAL VICTIMS 529 00:33:17,246 --> 00:33:18,956 Those girls were really pretty. 530 00:33:19,457 --> 00:33:23,252 He picked out the girls who were born religious, like me, 531 00:33:23,335 --> 00:33:25,546 because they were pure and innocent. 532 00:33:25,629 --> 00:33:27,757 Because they'd never been touched by a man. 533 00:33:29,592 --> 00:33:32,261 After he sexually assaulted the victims, 534 00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:35,931 he gave them each around three million won. 535 00:33:36,015 --> 00:33:40,686 People got these nice cars and houses all of a sudden. 536 00:33:40,770 --> 00:33:41,854 These were happening. 537 00:33:41,937 --> 00:33:44,940 I was like, "How on earth did they get the money for those things?" 538 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,405 He gave me an envelope that had a million won in cash. 539 00:33:51,947 --> 00:33:55,785 I used to get two or three million won. 540 00:33:57,369 --> 00:34:01,999 He wrote "five million won" in green ink on a white envelope and gave it to me. 541 00:34:03,584 --> 00:34:06,253 He gave me six million won. 542 00:34:06,337 --> 00:34:08,631 It was the offerings the church members had sowed. 543 00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:10,549 That's where he was getting this money. 544 00:34:10,633 --> 00:34:12,718 He gave me two, three million won. 545 00:34:12,802 --> 00:34:14,720 Up to five million won at most. 546 00:34:15,638 --> 00:34:16,764 And I gave tithe too. 547 00:34:17,264 --> 00:34:21,519 There were many times I sowed all that money back too. 548 00:34:21,602 --> 00:34:23,979 I thought, "What do I do with this precious money?" 549 00:34:24,063 --> 00:34:28,234 I didn't want to waste it, and it didn't make any sense to use it, 550 00:34:28,317 --> 00:34:29,985 so I sowed it back to the church. 551 00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:34,365 After that, their Measure of Faith would suddenly increase within the church. 552 00:34:34,865 --> 00:34:38,202 Many Performing Arts Committee members had really high spiritual rankings. 553 00:34:38,285 --> 00:34:40,788 I think there were 20 to 30 people. 554 00:34:41,330 --> 00:34:45,459 Everything was connected, like cogs on a wheel. 555 00:34:46,001 --> 00:34:51,090 You had to get to higher spiritual levels, and to do so, you had to sleep with him. 556 00:34:51,590 --> 00:34:55,719 And his victims were constantly victimized again. 557 00:34:55,803 --> 00:35:00,141 We will not give in to their demands. 558 00:35:00,224 --> 00:35:01,809 Amen! 559 00:35:01,892 --> 00:35:03,519 Dear beloved Pastor Lee! 560 00:35:04,019 --> 00:35:06,105 We're here for you! 561 00:35:06,188 --> 00:35:07,982 Be strong! 562 00:35:08,065 --> 00:35:11,026 We love you! 563 00:35:11,986 --> 00:35:15,781 The pastor we've encountered has not changed over the past decades. 564 00:35:15,865 --> 00:35:18,742 He is always kind and loving. 565 00:35:18,826 --> 00:35:21,162 He would cry and laugh with the members. 566 00:35:21,245 --> 00:35:22,997 As we'd only seen that side of him, 567 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,542 we thought, "Those women who left were always promiscuous." 568 00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:29,003 "They've always fooled around with men." 569 00:35:29,086 --> 00:35:31,422 And that rumor spread within the church. 570 00:35:33,215 --> 00:35:38,512 "They were very immoral and dirty. They were messy girls." 571 00:35:39,805 --> 00:35:43,392 They secretly spread this rumor, talking about it at private gatherings. 572 00:35:46,645 --> 00:35:50,733 Many of the adults also knew the truth. 573 00:35:51,442 --> 00:35:55,237 But they didn't leave the church. 574 00:35:56,071 --> 00:35:59,366 And that was because they thought he was the Holy Spirit. 575 00:35:59,450 --> 00:36:04,663 They thought, "Humans can't pass judgment on the Holy Spirit's actions." 576 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,293 Only if one or two people had revealed the truth 577 00:36:09,376 --> 00:36:12,546 and protested against what happened, 578 00:36:13,214 --> 00:36:16,675 this wouldn't have lasted several decades. 579 00:36:20,179 --> 00:36:22,932 Do you admit your sexual assault charges? Why did you do it? 580 00:36:23,015 --> 00:36:24,808 You're still not admitting the charges? 581 00:36:24,892 --> 00:36:25,935 Where are we going? 582 00:36:26,018 --> 00:36:27,394 Why did you call the women? 583 00:36:27,895 --> 00:36:29,813 Do you remember the Bangbae-dong apartment? 584 00:36:29,897 --> 00:36:33,359 I remember we kept asking him questions right up to the elevator. 585 00:36:33,442 --> 00:36:37,613 But at the time, Lee Jae-rock said nothing about himself. 586 00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:40,115 And the people around him 587 00:36:40,616 --> 00:36:43,452 were too busy just trying to shove away the reporters. 588 00:36:43,953 --> 00:36:46,330 I remember him acting very shameless. 589 00:36:46,413 --> 00:36:47,373 Oh, sorry. 590 00:36:48,457 --> 00:36:50,501 Why did you call them to your room at 10:00 p.m.? 591 00:36:50,584 --> 00:36:51,919 Do you remember April 12? 592 00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:57,299 ACCUSED OF SEXUALLY ASSAULTING CHURCH MEMBERS 593 00:36:57,383 --> 00:37:00,636 PASTOR LEE JAE-ROCK'S SECOND POLICE SUMMONS 594 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,097 After that, he continued to deny his charges, 595 00:37:03,180 --> 00:37:05,432 even during the prosecution investigation. 596 00:37:05,516 --> 00:37:09,186 In the trial, he also denied his charges, 597 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:11,480 saying he didn't sexually assault them. 598 00:37:11,563 --> 00:37:14,817 He hired very expensive lawyers 599 00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:18,279 and asserted his innocence until the very end, but… 600 00:37:18,362 --> 00:37:21,782 There was this very major incident that brought down Manmin. 601 00:37:21,865 --> 00:37:24,785 Back then, a file from a female member started to circulate. 602 00:37:24,868 --> 00:37:29,164 She was one of the most active members of the church. 603 00:37:29,248 --> 00:37:34,378 She had a voice recording of herself calling one of her friends. 604 00:37:34,461 --> 00:37:36,380 She thought there was nothing wrong 605 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,758 with having sex with Lee Jae-rock, and that it was a great honor. 606 00:37:41,969 --> 00:37:45,264 Just because he's the Holy Spirit, do you really think it's right 607 00:37:45,347 --> 00:37:48,142 for him to demand that from unwilling women? 608 00:37:48,225 --> 00:37:50,978 -You've never thought that it was wrong? -No. 609 00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:53,272 -So you're always completely obedient? -Yeah. 610 00:37:54,189 --> 00:37:56,775 -It's not even that weird. -Why isn't it weird? 611 00:37:56,859 --> 00:37:58,694 Do you have to do everything he says? 612 00:37:58,777 --> 00:38:00,738 Like if he asks women to have sex with him? 613 00:38:01,655 --> 00:38:05,075 Pastor Lee is God. That makes everything okay. 614 00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:08,245 If the Father says that it's not a sin, then it's not a sin. 615 00:38:08,996 --> 00:38:12,583 When I listened to that recording, I realized that it was all true. 616 00:38:12,666 --> 00:38:16,378 My 21 years of faith was shattered in just two hours. 617 00:38:17,087 --> 00:38:21,425 Now, what does it feel like when 21 years of faith shatters? 618 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,190 It felt like… 619 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:43,322 It felt like my head had gotten slammed with a huge hammer. 620 00:38:44,114 --> 00:38:45,991 So I just couldn't think at all. 621 00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:49,620 I was so shocked that I couldn't do anything all day. 622 00:38:51,413 --> 00:38:52,915 I could've never imagined it. 623 00:38:53,499 --> 00:38:57,586 You just never think that God could do something like that. 624 00:38:57,669 --> 00:38:58,921 "What?" 625 00:38:59,004 --> 00:38:59,880 I was just… 626 00:39:01,715 --> 00:39:04,343 It felt like I had gotten hit by a bomb. 627 00:39:04,927 --> 00:39:11,308 Lee Jae-rock was more than 50 years older than those girls. 628 00:39:11,392 --> 00:39:13,936 And it's not like he didn't know them. 629 00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:16,563 These were the kids 630 00:39:16,647 --> 00:39:19,566 who came to the church on their mother's backs, 631 00:39:19,650 --> 00:39:23,529 who he prayed for while they were still toddlers. 632 00:39:23,612 --> 00:39:27,366 And he did such unspeakable things to those children? 633 00:39:28,492 --> 00:39:31,161 At first, I almost swore at him. 634 00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:35,082 To think he'd groomed these girls since they were in their teens, 635 00:39:35,165 --> 00:39:39,711 and did something like that when they were barely into their twenties… 636 00:39:39,795 --> 00:39:43,298 He was over 70 years old. I don't even know what to call him. 637 00:39:43,382 --> 00:39:45,384 A pervert? A sex addict? 638 00:39:46,009 --> 00:39:48,345 I thought about what I would do if it were me? 639 00:39:48,429 --> 00:39:51,056 What if Pastor Lee called and told me to come to his room, 640 00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:55,936 and said, "Take off your clothes like Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden"? 641 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,982 You might find this pretty shocking, but I would have obeyed him. 642 00:40:00,816 --> 00:40:04,862 I loved you so much. I loved you spiritually. 643 00:40:04,945 --> 00:40:08,574 The body is one thing, but I loved you with my spirit. 644 00:40:08,657 --> 00:40:10,284 I know that. 645 00:40:10,784 --> 00:40:15,664 But if you don't like the physical love, I won't even consider it. 646 00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:16,790 Okay. 647 00:40:16,874 --> 00:40:19,126 I won't even consider it if you don't like it. 648 00:40:20,294 --> 00:40:22,171 That's not the reason why I love you. 649 00:40:23,505 --> 00:40:24,423 Okay. 650 00:40:25,215 --> 00:40:26,091 All right. 651 00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:29,470 I'll see you in the morning. 652 00:40:29,553 --> 00:40:31,388 Okay, thank you. 653 00:40:31,472 --> 00:40:32,389 Sure. 654 00:40:33,140 --> 00:40:34,224 I love you. Bye. 655 00:40:34,308 --> 00:40:35,767 Okay. Bye. 656 00:40:42,024 --> 00:40:44,735 May 3, 2018 657 00:40:45,277 --> 00:40:49,948 was the day their God had fallen. 658 00:41:00,209 --> 00:41:02,878 We're here for you! Stay strong. 659 00:41:05,881 --> 00:41:07,549 MAY 3, 2018 660 00:41:07,633 --> 00:41:09,134 Do you admit your charges? 661 00:41:09,801 --> 00:41:11,386 Do you still deny your charges? 662 00:41:11,887 --> 00:41:13,472 What did you mean yesterday 663 00:41:13,555 --> 00:41:16,558 when you said you don't fear the police and prosecutors? 664 00:41:17,267 --> 00:41:20,145 Pastor Lee Jae-rock of Manmin Central Church, 665 00:41:20,229 --> 00:41:23,524 who was accused of sexually assaulting his followers, has been arrested. 666 00:41:44,503 --> 00:41:47,965 The day that he was arrested, it suddenly started hailing. 667 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,425 "Look at that. God is angry." 668 00:41:52,052 --> 00:41:55,430 Manmin Central Church calls that day "the Hail Incident." 669 00:41:56,223 --> 00:42:00,185 All members of the church panicked as he was put through so much hardship. 670 00:42:00,269 --> 00:42:03,689 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 671 00:42:05,107 --> 00:42:08,652 Disclose the truth! The truth! 672 00:42:08,735 --> 00:42:12,781 We want the truth! 673 00:42:12,864 --> 00:42:16,785 PASTOR LEE WAS FRAMED 674 00:42:18,787 --> 00:42:22,374 BRING OUT THE LIE DETECTOR 675 00:42:22,457 --> 00:42:23,959 TRANSPORT 676 00:42:25,502 --> 00:42:26,712 At the front? 677 00:42:27,504 --> 00:42:28,589 He's at the very front. 678 00:42:29,548 --> 00:42:30,716 Number 3114? 679 00:42:30,799 --> 00:42:32,676 For many people, it was the first time 680 00:42:32,759 --> 00:42:35,596 seeing him with white hair, looking like a coward. 681 00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:37,014 He was taking short steps, 682 00:42:38,140 --> 00:42:41,351 as he was getting out of the vehicle. He looked all timid to me. 683 00:42:42,185 --> 00:42:45,564 They said because Jae-rock is God, he doesn't get white hair, 684 00:42:45,647 --> 00:42:48,567 that his hair will be black even though he's really old. 685 00:42:52,821 --> 00:42:54,948 But he just looked like a regular old man. 686 00:43:00,996 --> 00:43:07,961 DEFENDANT LEE JAE-ROCK SENTENCED TO 16 YEARS IN JAIL 687 00:43:10,505 --> 00:43:13,592 All right, everyone. Let's keep that in our hearts 688 00:43:13,675 --> 00:43:16,720 as we wish Pastor Lee a happy new year. 689 00:43:16,803 --> 00:43:19,222 Let's say "Happy New Year" and bow. 690 00:43:19,306 --> 00:43:22,851 Happy New Year. 691 00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:28,607 SOME MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH MEMBERS ARE STILL WAITING FOR PASTOR LEE JAE-ROCK 692 00:43:28,690 --> 00:43:32,277 Pastor Lee! 693 00:43:32,361 --> 00:43:35,781 We miss you! 694 00:43:35,864 --> 00:43:37,866 Come back to us soon. 695 00:43:39,576 --> 00:43:42,037 I am currently at Seoul Nambu Detention Center, 696 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,207 as the Director of the Council of Corrections. 697 00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:46,875 I have quite a lot of authority 698 00:43:47,918 --> 00:43:49,544 in the detention center. 699 00:43:52,798 --> 00:43:57,552 I visited Daegu Detention Center in March 2021. 700 00:43:59,846 --> 00:44:01,765 I was curious 701 00:44:01,848 --> 00:44:06,061 how the man who deceived us was doing. 702 00:44:08,313 --> 00:44:10,857 I could see him, so I said, "Hey, Lee Jae-rock!" 703 00:44:11,733 --> 00:44:13,485 And he looked at me, but… 704 00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:18,323 Imagine how hard my heart was pounding when I called out his name. 705 00:44:21,785 --> 00:44:24,996 "You should be ashamed! Aren't you scared of God?" 706 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,374 That's what I wanted to tell him, but… 707 00:44:30,210 --> 00:44:31,461 He didn't recognize me. 708 00:44:33,296 --> 00:44:36,049 And even in prison, he was the leader of his cell. 709 00:44:36,925 --> 00:44:39,928 He always has five million won kept in custody, which is the limit. 710 00:44:40,595 --> 00:44:43,515 He's living a good life. 711 00:44:47,185 --> 00:44:48,895 ALL INTERVIEWS IN THIS DOCUMENTARY USE REAL TESTIMONIES 712 00:44:48,979 --> 00:44:51,064 TO PROTECT THE SUBJECT'S IDENTITY, SOME INTERVIEWS HAVE BEEN REENACTED