1 00:00:06,424 --> 00:00:08,259 THE FOLLOWING EPISODE CONTAINS DESCRIPTIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE 2 00:00:08,342 --> 00:00:09,635 WHICH MAY BE DISTURBING FOR SOME VIEWERS 3 00:00:09,719 --> 00:00:11,471 IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW HAS EXPERIENCED SEXUAL ABUSE 4 00:00:11,554 --> 00:00:13,973 PLEASE VISIT WANNATALKABOUTIT.COM FOR MORE INFORMATION AND CRISIS RESOURCES 5 00:00:20,021 --> 00:00:21,522 RECORDING PROVIDED BY THE VICTIM IN 2018 6 00:00:21,606 --> 00:00:23,983 -[woman 1] You never thought it was wrong? -[woman 2] No. 7 00:00:24,067 --> 00:00:26,069 -[woman 1] You're always obedient? -[woman 2] Yes. 8 00:00:26,152 --> 00:00:27,361 It's not that weird. 9 00:00:27,445 --> 00:00:31,532 [woman 2] Why isn't it weird? Do you have to do everything he says, then? 10 00:00:31,616 --> 00:00:32,784 Even having sex? 11 00:00:33,618 --> 00:00:36,662 [woman 1] Pastor Lee is God. It's okay. 12 00:00:37,246 --> 00:00:39,749 If he says it's not a sin, then it's not a sin. 13 00:00:42,585 --> 00:00:44,253 [woman 3] "I do this because I love you." 14 00:00:45,004 --> 00:00:46,547 [woman 4] Because he's God. 15 00:00:46,631 --> 00:00:50,259 [woman 5] He wanted to see my breasts. He asked me to undress. 16 00:00:51,135 --> 00:00:52,804 [woman 4] And he told me to moan. 17 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:57,016 [Jeong-hye] He looked… very closely at that part. 18 00:00:57,100 --> 00:00:58,601 He just stared at it. 19 00:01:01,187 --> 00:01:03,397 [Lee Jae-rock] Even if I have some flaws, 20 00:01:03,481 --> 00:01:05,358 even if I kissed somebody, 21 00:01:06,776 --> 00:01:08,528 and even if I laid next to them, 22 00:01:09,112 --> 00:01:11,447 I believe that you will forgive me. 23 00:01:11,531 --> 00:01:13,533 I have no shame in front of God. 24 00:01:13,616 --> 00:01:15,326 I truly don't feel ashamed. 25 00:01:19,038 --> 00:01:20,706 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 26 00:01:21,749 --> 00:01:22,792 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 27 00:01:24,043 --> 00:01:26,504 IN THE NAME OF GOD: A HOLY BETRAYAL 28 00:01:33,302 --> 00:01:38,891 GOD OF MANMIN WHO WENT TO PRISON 29 00:01:40,101 --> 00:01:41,477 [New Age music] 30 00:01:41,561 --> 00:01:42,562 [woman speaking Korean] 31 00:01:42,645 --> 00:01:44,981 [interpreter] Our beloved members of Manmin, 32 00:01:45,481 --> 00:01:47,608 welcome to the pastor's castle. 33 00:01:47,733 --> 00:01:48,901 Welcome! 34 00:01:48,985 --> 00:01:51,445 [ceremonial music plays under ominous soundtrack] 35 00:01:51,529 --> 00:01:52,989 [birdsong] 36 00:01:55,366 --> 00:01:58,786 Our Father is preparing this wonderful place 37 00:01:59,412 --> 00:02:01,956 for all the faithful believers of Manmin. 38 00:02:07,795 --> 00:02:09,422 There are five levels to Heaven. 39 00:02:09,505 --> 00:02:12,008 In the first one, you stay in a place called Paradise. 40 00:02:12,091 --> 00:02:13,092 PARADISE 41 00:02:13,176 --> 00:02:15,219 The Kingdom of Heaven is the second. 42 00:02:15,303 --> 00:02:17,138 FIRST KINGDOM OF HEAVEN SECOND KINGDOM OF HEAVEN 43 00:02:17,221 --> 00:02:19,348 The Second Kingdom is above Paradise. 44 00:02:20,016 --> 00:02:21,434 Then the Third Kingdom. 45 00:02:21,517 --> 00:02:22,643 THIRD KINGDOM OF HEAVEN 46 00:02:22,727 --> 00:02:24,896 And at the very top is New Jerusalem. 47 00:02:24,979 --> 00:02:27,440 NEW JERUSALEM 48 00:02:27,523 --> 00:02:29,692 In Paradise, you'll live in the fields forever. 49 00:02:29,775 --> 00:02:31,277 MEASURE OF FAITH FIRST LEVEL - PARADISE 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,070 The First Kingdom has buildings. 51 00:02:33,654 --> 00:02:35,573 In the Second, you get to live in a house. 52 00:02:36,115 --> 00:02:38,242 In the Third, you're given a castle. 53 00:02:38,326 --> 00:02:42,496 And a palace waits for you in New Jerusalem. Or so they say. 54 00:02:42,580 --> 00:02:47,001 How thankful are we, knowing we can enter the New Jerusalem. 55 00:02:47,084 --> 00:02:49,462 Thank you so much, dear Father! 56 00:02:49,545 --> 00:02:50,796 Thank you very much! 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,299 -[applause] -[women] Thank you very much! 58 00:02:56,385 --> 00:02:59,180 Were there any houses you wanted to have for yourselves? 59 00:02:59,263 --> 00:03:00,097 [man] Amen! 60 00:03:00,181 --> 00:03:02,683 Yeah, it's a very big place. 61 00:03:03,309 --> 00:03:07,438 The main castle is huge, it's… millions of square footage. 62 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:11,984 There's an ocean, too, and a beautiful lake that you will all love. 63 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:15,529 My goal in life was to end up there. At the best place. 64 00:03:15,613 --> 00:03:17,156 FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 65 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,116 The closest to the Throne of God. 66 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,493 KIM MYEONG-JUN FORMER MEMBER 67 00:03:20,576 --> 00:03:23,204 Manmin took advantage of that. It's called the Measure of Faith. 68 00:03:23,287 --> 00:03:24,872 TEAM HARMONY KIM MYEONG-JUN, BAPTIST 69 00:03:24,956 --> 00:03:26,499 They turned your faith into a number. 70 00:03:26,582 --> 00:03:29,335 They wrote it on a piece of paper and gave it to you. 71 00:03:29,418 --> 00:03:31,337 "Your faith is at 30%." 72 00:03:31,420 --> 00:03:33,381 "Your faith is at 70%." 73 00:03:33,464 --> 00:03:35,633 So that made people go crazy over it. 74 00:03:35,716 --> 00:03:38,135 They also got very anxious. People with a high Measure … 75 00:03:38,219 --> 00:03:39,262 FOURTH LEVEL 02.90 76 00:03:39,345 --> 00:03:42,181 …were basically like celebrities, and moved up the ranks. 77 00:03:42,265 --> 00:03:46,602 Those who don't get a high Measure fall behind until… they're eliminated. 78 00:03:46,686 --> 00:03:47,645 [man sighs] 79 00:03:49,563 --> 00:03:52,650 [Myeong-jun] I was desperate to get higher Measures of Faith. 80 00:03:52,733 --> 00:03:57,280 So I started giving even more, and also investing much more. 81 00:03:58,864 --> 00:03:59,949 [man] Oh, yeah! 82 00:04:00,032 --> 00:04:01,325 FOURTH LEVEL 83 00:04:01,409 --> 00:04:04,412 I… I think I got to three percent on the fourth level. 84 00:04:04,495 --> 00:04:06,038 THIRD LEVEL 85 00:04:06,122 --> 00:04:09,208 I was around 40%. The third level. 86 00:04:09,292 --> 00:04:14,380 I was on the third level with 60-point-something percent. 87 00:04:14,463 --> 00:04:17,633 Getting to 60% on the third level means you stand on the "Rock of Faith." 88 00:04:17,717 --> 00:04:18,801 LEE KWANG-OH FORMER MEMBER 89 00:04:19,510 --> 00:04:22,513 I got that pretty early, and I was so happy to get it quickly. 90 00:04:22,596 --> 00:04:26,642 I think I was number 800 out of 15,000 people. 91 00:04:28,352 --> 00:04:30,271 That was my rank in Heaven. 92 00:04:30,354 --> 00:04:32,189 It was actually very impressive. 93 00:04:32,273 --> 00:04:33,941 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 94 00:04:34,025 --> 00:04:36,694 [Jae-rock] If you have never been to the Rock of Faith, 95 00:04:36,777 --> 00:04:39,363 if you have never received an acknowledgement, 96 00:04:39,447 --> 00:04:41,490 even though I recognize your face, 97 00:04:43,075 --> 00:04:45,244 there's a reason why you haven't made it yet. 98 00:04:45,328 --> 00:04:46,912 You need to find out what that is. 99 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,418 Now that I think back, only those people who paid a lot would get high percentages. 100 00:04:52,501 --> 00:04:55,004 That's the conclusion that I've come to. 101 00:05:00,092 --> 00:05:06,015 THOU SHALT NOT STEAL 102 00:05:06,098 --> 00:05:07,350 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 103 00:05:08,559 --> 00:05:11,771 [Jae-rock] In a way, this sermon is a continuation 104 00:05:11,854 --> 00:05:13,856 of the previous sermon that I gave about Hell. 105 00:05:13,939 --> 00:05:16,192 If you don't pay your offerings, 106 00:05:16,275 --> 00:05:19,653 I promise you that the Lord will place a curse upon you. 107 00:05:19,737 --> 00:05:20,905 [man] Amen. 108 00:05:21,405 --> 00:05:22,531 I see it often. 109 00:05:23,949 --> 00:05:25,910 If you get into a car crash 110 00:05:25,993 --> 00:05:27,912 and break and shatter your bones, 111 00:05:27,995 --> 00:05:29,622 or suffers a hemorrhage, 112 00:05:29,705 --> 00:05:32,833 you see, it's always because of the same reason. 113 00:05:33,584 --> 00:05:36,337 It's obvious. It's because you didn't pay. 114 00:05:36,420 --> 00:05:38,339 You have to pay your offerings. 115 00:05:38,422 --> 00:05:40,466 [chanting] 116 00:05:41,884 --> 00:05:43,886 [unsettling music playing over chanting] 117 00:05:50,851 --> 00:05:53,646 Thank-you offering, sanctuary-building offering, 118 00:05:54,188 --> 00:05:56,148 charity offering, special offering. 119 00:05:56,774 --> 00:05:59,318 During a Bible study, during Feast of Harvest, 120 00:05:59,902 --> 00:06:01,028 during Easter. 121 00:06:01,612 --> 00:06:03,823 And there was also one during Christmas. 122 00:06:04,407 --> 00:06:05,658 And a tithe, 123 00:06:06,242 --> 00:06:07,952 based on your income before taxes. 124 00:06:11,705 --> 00:06:14,458 [Jae-rock] Some people say that they can't pay the tithe 125 00:06:14,542 --> 00:06:17,294 because they're unemployed and don't have income. 126 00:06:17,378 --> 00:06:19,964 But every single person can pay the tithe. 127 00:06:20,047 --> 00:06:24,301 Even young children have income from New Year's, allowances, 128 00:06:24,385 --> 00:06:28,139 other celebrations, school celebrations and birthdays. 129 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:34,145 The parents can pay the tithe in their child's name by using their income. 130 00:06:34,228 --> 00:06:36,230 [crackling and squelching] 131 00:06:39,316 --> 00:06:42,987 There are two ways to give money to the Manmin Church. 132 00:06:43,070 --> 00:06:44,697 Offerings and gifts. 133 00:06:44,780 --> 00:06:48,200 Offerings are the money you give in offering envelopes, 134 00:06:48,284 --> 00:06:50,369 while a gift would be money you give unofficially. 135 00:06:52,413 --> 00:06:54,248 [Jang Ho-ki] Offerings are a separate thing. 136 00:06:54,331 --> 00:06:56,667 Members pay offerings and gifts, 137 00:06:56,750 --> 00:06:59,170 even if that means they have no money to live on. 138 00:06:59,670 --> 00:07:02,423 And yet, they always donate, 139 00:07:03,299 --> 00:07:04,967 even if they go into debt. 140 00:07:06,385 --> 00:07:08,637 He puts members in competition with each other. 141 00:07:09,138 --> 00:07:10,473 to see who can pay more. 142 00:07:11,307 --> 00:07:14,059 "You and you. You both got the first place." 143 00:07:14,143 --> 00:07:17,229 "And you, that elder gets third place." 144 00:07:17,313 --> 00:07:21,358 I think I must have paid somewhere close to one billion won 145 00:07:21,442 --> 00:07:23,944 over the course of 24 years. 146 00:07:24,028 --> 00:07:26,947 I think my family paid over a billion won too. 147 00:07:27,031 --> 00:07:32,369 At the very least, it's 800 million. But I think I paid over a billion won. 148 00:07:32,453 --> 00:07:34,747 There were many people taken advantage of financially. 149 00:07:34,830 --> 00:07:35,956 JANG HO-KI, PRODUCER, PD NOTE 150 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,418 These people dedicated their lives to giving offerings to the church. 151 00:07:39,502 --> 00:07:41,879 He's such an atrocious man, who brainwashed them all… 152 00:07:41,962 --> 00:07:44,590 JANG UN-CHUL, REPORTER AT AMENNEWS.COM REPORTED ON MANMIN CHURCH 153 00:07:44,673 --> 00:07:48,177 …and then, sadly, used that for his own gain. 154 00:07:52,181 --> 00:07:54,183 [grasshoppers chirping] 155 00:07:55,601 --> 00:07:58,729 [man] When you analyze it, a lot of members of the church 156 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:00,814 had a very poor quality of life. 157 00:08:00,898 --> 00:08:02,691 FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CHURCH CHURCH EMPLOYEE 158 00:08:02,775 --> 00:08:04,693 In terms of earnings, it's probably fair to say 159 00:08:04,777 --> 00:08:09,490 most of the church's members were at the very bottom of the ladder. 160 00:08:10,658 --> 00:08:12,618 Despite that, they gave money to the church. 161 00:08:12,701 --> 00:08:14,328 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 162 00:08:14,411 --> 00:08:17,498 How did that happen? They had two jobs. 163 00:08:17,581 --> 00:08:20,125 [woman] Hey, take this to that table. 164 00:08:22,086 --> 00:08:25,506 [man] They worked hard to earn the money for the offerings. 165 00:08:27,550 --> 00:08:29,843 Eight hundred, ten thousand… 166 00:08:29,927 --> 00:08:33,430 They didn't have much money, and a lot of them went into debt. 167 00:08:33,514 --> 00:08:34,807 You leave church after a service. 168 00:08:34,890 --> 00:08:37,101 BYUN SEONG-KWANG, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PD NOTE EPISODE 169 00:08:37,184 --> 00:08:39,812 But at Manmin Church, the members line up and wait afterwards. 170 00:08:39,895 --> 00:08:41,146 [cheering] 171 00:08:41,230 --> 00:08:43,524 -[woman 1] Pastor Lee! -[woman 2] Pastor Lee! 172 00:08:43,607 --> 00:08:44,984 [man] Pastor Lee! 173 00:08:45,067 --> 00:08:47,194 [woman 3] Our entire family supports you! 174 00:08:47,278 --> 00:08:48,487 Thank you. 175 00:08:48,571 --> 00:08:52,449 [Kwang-oh] If you grabbed his hand and asked for a prayer, his car stopped. 176 00:08:54,994 --> 00:08:58,831 A member might get a minute of prayer, 20 or 30 seconds. 177 00:08:58,914 --> 00:08:59,832 Amen! 178 00:09:01,125 --> 00:09:04,128 There's somebody in the car who collects the money envelopes. 179 00:09:04,211 --> 00:09:06,005 He's the director of planning. 180 00:09:07,006 --> 00:09:10,342 As far as I know, a lot of people paid thousands of dollars n offerings 181 00:09:10,426 --> 00:09:11,927 to receive his blessings. 182 00:09:12,011 --> 00:09:14,054 May Jesus lay his hand upon you in prayer. 183 00:09:14,138 --> 00:09:15,681 MISSIONARY MEETING FOR BUSINESSPEOPLE 184 00:09:15,764 --> 00:09:18,809 Show us the inspiration, influence, and greatness of the Holy Spirit. 185 00:09:18,892 --> 00:09:19,768 [all] Amen. 186 00:09:19,852 --> 00:09:21,687 We pray that you'll surround us with light. 187 00:09:21,770 --> 00:09:22,688 [all] Amen. 188 00:09:23,647 --> 00:09:26,066 There is a missionary gathering for businesspeople, 189 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:27,318 those who give the most money. 190 00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:29,570 We were invited to go. 191 00:09:30,487 --> 00:09:33,657 While there, they collect around three to five million won per person. 192 00:09:34,992 --> 00:09:36,368 The tithe from August… 193 00:09:37,620 --> 00:09:42,541 There were six or seven people who paid nearly ten million won, 194 00:09:43,042 --> 00:09:45,085 but now, we've got more than 12. 195 00:09:45,169 --> 00:09:46,086 [woman] Amen. 196 00:09:46,170 --> 00:09:48,339 -[man] I'll bring you joy, Father. -[Jae-rock] All right. 197 00:09:48,422 --> 00:09:50,132 [man] Let's go to the car to receive prayers. 198 00:09:50,215 --> 00:09:51,884 -[Jae-rock] Sure. -[man] Over here. 199 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,178 -[Jae-rock] Okay. -[man] Come on. 200 00:09:54,678 --> 00:09:56,889 -Let's hug. -[Jae-rock] Sure, sure. Sure. 201 00:09:57,473 --> 00:09:58,974 I got a new car, Pastor. 202 00:09:59,767 --> 00:10:02,227 -Where is it from? -Germany. 203 00:10:04,063 --> 00:10:05,439 Father, bless this car. 204 00:10:05,939 --> 00:10:08,692 -Please bless this key as well. -Amen. 205 00:10:08,776 --> 00:10:10,027 Bless your light upon it. 206 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:12,196 -In the name of Jesus! -[group] Amen. 207 00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:13,947 Please, dear God, bless this car. 208 00:10:14,031 --> 00:10:15,741 -[man] Amen. -[Jae-rock] Amen. 209 00:10:19,995 --> 00:10:22,665 [woman] You had to pay to take a picture with Pastor Lee. 210 00:10:23,248 --> 00:10:25,626 I don't remember the exact price. 211 00:10:25,709 --> 00:10:27,586 It started out not being much. 212 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:29,713 But then, there were so many who wanted 213 00:10:29,797 --> 00:10:32,007 to have their picture taken with Pastor Lee, 214 00:10:32,091 --> 00:10:34,510 they ended up paying at least a million won per picture. 215 00:10:35,094 --> 00:10:38,222 I'm sure I gave around ten million won for a picture. 216 00:10:54,321 --> 00:10:56,031 [Kwang-oh] These are the pictures I paid for. 217 00:10:58,367 --> 00:11:00,661 I had over 40 of those framed. 218 00:11:06,291 --> 00:11:09,253 The total cost is easily over 400 million won. 219 00:11:10,504 --> 00:11:11,547 MANMIN CHURCH BOOKSTORE 220 00:11:11,630 --> 00:11:14,425 Manmin Church had a store called Manmin Bookstore. 221 00:11:14,508 --> 00:11:16,051 BENEDICTION, EXTRA-LARGE FRAME 80,000 WON 222 00:11:16,135 --> 00:11:17,553 They sold pictures of Jae-rock… 223 00:11:17,636 --> 00:11:18,971 BENEDICTION, LARGE FRAME 50,000 WON 224 00:11:19,054 --> 00:11:22,099 …key rings, notebooks, all kinds of paraphernalia like that. 225 00:11:22,182 --> 00:11:24,309 And people would buy these things too. 226 00:11:25,728 --> 00:11:27,938 In a way, it's a really shrewd business. 227 00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:30,607 The funniest one for me was Muan Sweet Water. 228 00:11:34,111 --> 00:11:37,239 These people put Muan Sweet Water 229 00:11:37,322 --> 00:11:39,575 in these small spray bottles to make it easier to use. 230 00:11:39,658 --> 00:11:40,534 MUAN SWEET WATER 231 00:11:40,617 --> 00:11:41,618 It was crazy. 232 00:11:41,702 --> 00:11:43,996 You could spray it on to get double eyelids. 233 00:11:44,580 --> 00:11:47,374 It was also supposed to fix broken washing machines. 234 00:11:49,501 --> 00:11:52,838 [man] Muan Sweet Water worked its miracle on a broken washing machine. 235 00:11:53,964 --> 00:11:55,758 It was stuck. I was desperate. 236 00:11:55,841 --> 00:11:58,260 I spent ages trying to open it, then it opened with a click 237 00:11:58,343 --> 00:12:00,345 right after I sprayed the Muan Sweet Water. 238 00:12:00,429 --> 00:12:01,930 The washing machine works well now. 239 00:12:02,014 --> 00:12:03,766 Everything is fine now. 240 00:12:04,349 --> 00:12:05,809 Everything is fixed. 241 00:12:05,893 --> 00:12:08,270 [woman] The door wouldn't open for over an hour, 242 00:12:08,854 --> 00:12:10,647 but it unbolted with a click 243 00:12:10,731 --> 00:12:13,233 right after it was sprayed with Muan Sweet Water. 244 00:12:14,067 --> 00:12:15,402 [barking] 245 00:12:22,826 --> 00:12:24,828 [Myeong-jun] To Manmin Church, Muan Sweet Water 246 00:12:24,912 --> 00:12:26,663 is like a cure-all for the members. 247 00:12:26,747 --> 00:12:29,958 They say there's this light, and also this power, 248 00:12:30,042 --> 00:12:33,796 and something magical in this common water just because Jae-rock prayed over it. 249 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:35,506 PLEASE GIVE THIS WATER SPIRITUAL POWER… 250 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:40,511 So, they claim that the users can experience some kind of miracle 251 00:12:40,594 --> 00:12:42,554 if you drink it or put it on yourself. 252 00:12:49,019 --> 00:12:50,896 They had a thing called "Mailbox" 253 00:12:50,979 --> 00:12:53,816 where you could call an automatic response system 254 00:12:53,899 --> 00:12:57,528 and you could listen to pre-recorded messages from Pastor Lee. 255 00:12:57,611 --> 00:12:59,446 [woman] This is Manmin Central Church. 256 00:12:59,530 --> 00:13:02,491 Press 10 to start your day with Pastor Lee's prayers. 257 00:13:02,574 --> 00:13:04,284 Press 20 to hear a prayer for recovery. 258 00:13:04,368 --> 00:13:07,704 30 for a three-minute sermon. Press 40 for a prayer for the sick. 259 00:13:08,914 --> 00:13:11,917 Before my grandfather died, he was hospitalized. 260 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,460 I wanted him to heal. 261 00:13:13,544 --> 00:13:17,381 So, I remember I played Jae-rock's voicemail prayers for the sick for him. 262 00:13:17,464 --> 00:13:18,924 I remember it clearly. 263 00:13:20,050 --> 00:13:22,427 [Jae-rock] Let me begin the prayer for the sick. 264 00:13:22,928 --> 00:13:25,430 Place your hand on the place where it hurts. 265 00:13:25,514 --> 00:13:28,308 If you're not ill, then simply put your hand over your heart… 266 00:13:28,392 --> 00:13:30,269 [man] He listened to it for a while, 267 00:13:30,769 --> 00:13:34,565 then he looked at me to take the earphones out. 268 00:13:34,648 --> 00:13:37,442 Nevertheless, I made him listen to the whole thing, 269 00:13:37,526 --> 00:13:39,611 because I wanted him to listen. 270 00:13:40,863 --> 00:13:44,449 I should have just talked to him or gone on a trip with him. Yeah. 271 00:13:45,951 --> 00:13:47,494 [sighs] 272 00:13:50,956 --> 00:13:52,833 It's all about money in the end. 273 00:13:52,916 --> 00:13:56,003 The church is denying it, but they had an enormous amount of money saved up. 274 00:13:56,086 --> 00:13:57,004 GOAL: 1.5 BILLION 275 00:13:57,087 --> 00:13:58,922 SPECIAL TREATMENT PLAN FOR HIGHER-PAYING MEMBERS 276 00:13:59,006 --> 00:14:02,593 [man] With three million won, you could meet him with others who paid the same. 277 00:14:02,676 --> 00:14:05,762 If you paid more, you'd meet him with people who paid that amount too. 278 00:14:05,846 --> 00:14:07,014 It was like that. 279 00:14:07,097 --> 00:14:09,266 If you paid the most, you'd get a private meeting. 280 00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:11,560 Those people paid over 100 million won. 281 00:14:12,853 --> 00:14:15,772 [man] How did the church treat people who paid that much money? 282 00:14:18,108 --> 00:14:22,571 Well, those people were basically treated as VIPs by the church associates. 283 00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:25,407 There were people dressed in beautiful hanbok. 284 00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:26,950 They had special seats. 285 00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:31,246 That made them the envy of all Manmin Church members. 286 00:14:32,998 --> 00:14:35,167 Those seats were not just for anybody. 287 00:14:35,250 --> 00:14:39,254 They must have given a lot of offerings, like, really a lot of money, 288 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:40,964 to dear Pastor Lee. 289 00:14:42,090 --> 00:14:45,010 Honestly, back then, it felt pretty nice. 290 00:14:45,093 --> 00:14:46,511 Because of that system… 291 00:14:46,595 --> 00:14:48,096 FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 292 00:14:48,180 --> 00:14:51,391 …my dad paid millions of won every year to the devotion worship 293 00:14:51,475 --> 00:14:53,727 to have my sister sit at the very front. 294 00:14:54,478 --> 00:14:57,689 If you gave more money, you got the right to sit at the front. 295 00:14:59,483 --> 00:15:01,526 [man] Why were those seats so important? 296 00:15:02,027 --> 00:15:05,197 Because you were closer to Pastor Lee. 297 00:15:10,410 --> 00:15:14,373 THOU SHALT NOT KILL 298 00:15:17,793 --> 00:15:21,630 Illnesses happen as a result of a sin, as a punishment. 299 00:15:21,713 --> 00:15:23,465 You'll never be ill if you don't sin. 300 00:15:23,548 --> 00:15:27,469 Have you ever seen someone fall ill when they've never sinned and are obedient? 301 00:15:27,552 --> 00:15:29,137 -[crowd] Amen. -[woman] Amen. 302 00:15:29,846 --> 00:15:31,264 If you get a deadly illness, 303 00:15:31,348 --> 00:15:35,268 it means that you committed a sin so serious that death is the punishment. 304 00:15:36,561 --> 00:15:39,147 He said to me, "You won't get ill if you don't sin." 305 00:15:39,231 --> 00:15:41,233 "If you're ill, you must have sinned." 306 00:15:41,316 --> 00:15:42,651 He pushed us to believe that. 307 00:15:43,235 --> 00:15:46,863 People thought that going to the hospital reflected a lack of faith. 308 00:15:46,947 --> 00:15:48,240 He was proud of that. 309 00:15:49,825 --> 00:15:51,952 But in reality, there were illnesses 310 00:15:52,035 --> 00:15:54,579 that could have been stopped if treated in time. 311 00:15:54,663 --> 00:15:55,956 But people just prayed, 312 00:15:56,540 --> 00:15:58,250 and many of them ended up dying. 313 00:15:58,333 --> 00:16:00,836 Tuberculosis lives in the Manmin Church. 314 00:16:00,919 --> 00:16:03,380 It's actually a part of its history. 315 00:16:04,798 --> 00:16:07,175 The members of the Performing Arts Committee 316 00:16:07,259 --> 00:16:09,720 are all in their 20s or 30s. 317 00:16:09,803 --> 00:16:13,724 They all sing and dance together, and as I said, they're all young. 318 00:16:14,307 --> 00:16:16,935 They're all… always in the spotlight. 319 00:16:17,394 --> 00:16:19,813 -[in Korean] ♪ Fruits of joy ♪ -♪ Fruits of joy ♪ 320 00:16:22,816 --> 00:16:27,863 -♪ I am changed ♪ -♪ I am changed ♪ 321 00:16:27,946 --> 00:16:31,241 ♪ His love saved me ♪ 322 00:16:32,284 --> 00:16:36,705 Sadly, many wonderful people ended up tragically passing away. 323 00:16:42,294 --> 00:16:43,420 My wife… 324 00:16:43,503 --> 00:16:44,379 FORMER MEMBER 325 00:16:44,463 --> 00:16:47,299 She passed away in 2006. 326 00:16:48,050 --> 00:16:50,052 [TV theme music] 327 00:16:52,804 --> 00:16:55,474 Hi, dear believers. How are you all doing today? 328 00:16:55,557 --> 00:16:57,726 After the 100th episode special, 329 00:16:57,809 --> 00:17:01,021 God showed his great power through our beloved Pastor Lee… 330 00:17:01,563 --> 00:17:04,232 She was a really pretty girl. She was in the Hallelujah Praising Team. 331 00:17:04,316 --> 00:17:05,567 FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CHURCH 332 00:17:05,650 --> 00:17:10,906 She was a very petite and slim girl, with a feminine and beautiful voice. 333 00:17:14,451 --> 00:17:16,369 [husband] She was brushing her teeth, 334 00:17:16,453 --> 00:17:19,247 then she ran up to me with toothpaste in her mouth. 335 00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:21,708 She was bleeding. 336 00:17:22,667 --> 00:17:24,961 I told her we should run to the hospital… 337 00:17:26,755 --> 00:17:28,340 [sighs] 338 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,258 She had tuberculosis. 339 00:17:31,885 --> 00:17:34,012 Faith was supposed to be our treatment. 340 00:17:34,679 --> 00:17:36,515 She was on the praise team. 341 00:17:37,974 --> 00:17:39,518 When we found out about it, 342 00:17:41,645 --> 00:17:43,730 she said her treatment was her faith. 343 00:17:48,944 --> 00:17:51,738 She said, "I was supposed to only love Jae-rock." 344 00:17:51,822 --> 00:17:56,326 "And now I'm sick because I decided to get married. I'm going to die from it." 345 00:17:56,409 --> 00:17:58,370 She was considered a sinner. 346 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,540 If you get a deadly illness, 347 00:18:01,623 --> 00:18:05,836 it means that you committed a sin so serious that death is the punishment. 348 00:18:13,009 --> 00:18:15,220 [husband sobbing] 349 00:18:30,318 --> 00:18:33,196 [husband] Before she passed away, she… 350 00:18:33,864 --> 00:18:35,448 was so very skinny. 351 00:18:36,533 --> 00:18:38,702 And her lungs had basically stopped working. 352 00:18:41,538 --> 00:18:42,497 And she… 353 00:18:45,083 --> 00:18:46,418 died a painful death. 354 00:18:51,506 --> 00:18:52,757 [birds calling] 355 00:19:01,349 --> 00:19:06,104 Aside from tuberculosis, there were a lot of people who suffered from cancer. 356 00:19:07,397 --> 00:19:09,733 When I found out the situation, I thought, 357 00:19:09,816 --> 00:19:14,112 "Is it really faith that prevents these people from going to the hospital?" 358 00:19:14,196 --> 00:19:15,530 "Unbelievable." 359 00:19:19,993 --> 00:19:22,954 THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY 360 00:19:23,872 --> 00:19:26,708 You know, I always talk about this in the sermons. 361 00:19:26,791 --> 00:19:30,503 People are affected by the evil spirits because of adultery. 362 00:19:31,046 --> 00:19:32,255 Adulterers 363 00:19:33,215 --> 00:19:36,468 are possessed by evil spirits, but they have no idea. 364 00:19:38,053 --> 00:19:41,765 They keep committing adultery because they have that spirit in them. 365 00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:43,266 They can't stop. 366 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:46,770 They don't realize that they are under the influence of evil spirits. 367 00:19:46,853 --> 00:19:50,482 Lee Jae-rock was always very emphatic about adultery 368 00:19:50,565 --> 00:19:52,317 and relationships between men and women. 369 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,361 And he would always say, 370 00:19:54,444 --> 00:19:58,490 "Because I don't have any adulterous spirits in me, 371 00:19:58,573 --> 00:20:00,659 I don't feel anything when I see a naked woman." 372 00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:05,580 [man] At one point, they began separating the men from the women. 373 00:20:07,415 --> 00:20:10,627 "Don't sit next to each other. Don't be in the same space." 374 00:20:12,587 --> 00:20:14,673 Men and women couldn't talk to each other. 375 00:20:14,756 --> 00:20:16,883 So, how did they communicate? 376 00:20:16,967 --> 00:20:20,512 Well, you would talk to them through someone else. 377 00:20:21,012 --> 00:20:23,098 In my case, it was my sister. 378 00:20:23,181 --> 00:20:25,016 I would tell the message to her, 379 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:28,436 and when the other person responded, 380 00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:32,774 my sister would pass that message on to me, and the chain continued. 381 00:20:36,736 --> 00:20:40,282 There was an incident with the letters of repentance in 2010. 382 00:20:40,365 --> 00:20:42,659 "The members have too many sins." 383 00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:44,828 "They lead sinful lives." 384 00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:49,582 I did not think that such sinners would be part of our church. 385 00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:52,711 These are people who gave in to their sexual desires. 386 00:20:52,794 --> 00:20:56,089 And some of them also acted in a very indecent 387 00:20:56,172 --> 00:20:57,924 and totally improper manner. 388 00:20:58,883 --> 00:21:02,053 They said, "If you write a letter to Jae-rock about your sins, 389 00:21:02,137 --> 00:21:03,555 they will be forgiven." 390 00:21:03,638 --> 00:21:05,724 I have cried so desperately… 391 00:21:14,399 --> 00:21:17,986 I cried so that not a single soul would go to Hell, I… 392 00:21:18,069 --> 00:21:19,654 [sobbing] 393 00:21:21,573 --> 00:21:23,491 I didn't know it'd be this bad. 394 00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:32,125 I didn't know that this pain would make my life so… so unbearable. 395 00:21:33,209 --> 00:21:37,005 Please show compassion for us, and forgive us. 396 00:21:38,048 --> 00:21:39,716 Your son begs you. 397 00:21:46,056 --> 00:21:47,307 I'm begging you. 398 00:21:50,935 --> 00:21:52,645 [woman] We had to confess all our secrets. 399 00:21:52,729 --> 00:21:53,980 LETTER BOX OF REPENTANCE 400 00:21:54,856 --> 00:21:58,193 I had to remember holding hands with somebody when I was seven 401 00:21:58,693 --> 00:22:01,112 and what I did with a man when I was 20. 402 00:22:02,197 --> 00:22:03,740 Did I do anything else? 403 00:22:04,366 --> 00:22:07,369 I had to remember everything and confess it. 404 00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:09,329 It was really hard. 405 00:22:10,455 --> 00:22:12,832 [Myeong-jun] Once everyone wrote their letters of repentance, 406 00:22:12,916 --> 00:22:15,293 it became mandatory for all church members. 407 00:22:15,377 --> 00:22:16,628 If you didn't do it, 408 00:22:16,711 --> 00:22:19,881 there was no way you could be sure if you would be saved or not. 409 00:22:19,964 --> 00:22:22,217 It was something that was very upsetting. 410 00:22:23,718 --> 00:22:26,221 You keep committing those deadly sins. 411 00:22:26,721 --> 00:22:28,598 Don't you feel bad for your pastor? 412 00:22:29,099 --> 00:22:31,017 Is it really that hard to believe? 413 00:22:31,851 --> 00:22:33,395 If you commit a sin, 414 00:22:34,270 --> 00:22:36,481 you'll die just like it says in the Bible, 415 00:22:36,564 --> 00:22:39,150 and there'll be no salvation, I promise you. 416 00:22:40,151 --> 00:22:41,778 This topic is kind of… 417 00:22:42,362 --> 00:22:44,406 I feel bad talking about it. 418 00:22:44,989 --> 00:22:46,783 This might really hurt someone. 419 00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:49,411 Their family is still having a really hard time. 420 00:22:51,287 --> 00:22:52,831 He was a little bit… 421 00:22:52,914 --> 00:22:55,250 LEE CHAN-HEE FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 422 00:22:56,334 --> 00:22:57,669 …free-spirited. 423 00:22:58,253 --> 00:22:59,879 He dated a lot of people. 424 00:23:00,463 --> 00:23:03,800 He was a huge extrovert, and a very friendly kind of person. 425 00:23:04,592 --> 00:23:05,885 [singing in Korean] 426 00:23:06,970 --> 00:23:10,557 PLEASE NOTE THIS FOOTAGE IS NOT RELATED TO THE ACTUAL VICTIM 427 00:23:16,479 --> 00:23:20,400 [man] He ran into several problems with various women. 428 00:23:20,483 --> 00:23:21,693 Jae-rock found out about it. 429 00:23:22,569 --> 00:23:25,071 That ended up being, well… 430 00:23:25,989 --> 00:23:27,991 a great disadvantage for him, honestly. 431 00:23:28,825 --> 00:23:31,786 He told him once, "You can't be saved." 432 00:23:32,662 --> 00:23:34,497 So he… cut them off. 433 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,960 He literally cut off his genitals. 434 00:23:39,836 --> 00:23:42,255 You could see a physical difference. 435 00:23:42,338 --> 00:23:44,215 He became feminine. 436 00:23:44,299 --> 00:23:46,509 He was a bodyguard and he loved to exercise. 437 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:48,928 He's skinny now. 438 00:23:49,637 --> 00:23:51,890 He has no muscles, and no facial hair. 439 00:23:54,142 --> 00:23:56,394 Such things shouldn't have happened to anyone. 440 00:23:56,978 --> 00:23:59,022 They were just extremely illogical. 441 00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:02,400 And they didn't just happen to one or two people. 442 00:24:04,402 --> 00:24:07,739 [younger man] He had such blind faith, he thought it was right. 443 00:24:07,822 --> 00:24:10,158 "Where can I have it done? I have to do it!" 444 00:24:11,367 --> 00:24:12,911 I considered it. 445 00:24:16,206 --> 00:24:18,041 And when I looked into it, he even told me 446 00:24:19,042 --> 00:24:21,127 where it was done and the cost. 447 00:24:21,961 --> 00:24:24,631 He said it took five days to recover from the surgery. 448 00:24:25,131 --> 00:24:26,341 But it was illegal. 449 00:24:26,841 --> 00:24:28,843 [traditional music] 450 00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:34,140 [Chan-hee] Jae-rock was very sensitive 451 00:24:35,183 --> 00:24:38,645 about things like dating somebody from the Performing Arts Committee. 452 00:24:42,232 --> 00:24:45,193 [woman] Like I said, there were pretty girls from the church. 453 00:24:45,276 --> 00:24:48,696 I think he thought that those girls belonged to him. 454 00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:51,324 But if they dated or slept with another man, 455 00:24:51,407 --> 00:24:54,118 he considered them tainted and filthy. 456 00:24:54,619 --> 00:24:56,371 He had to have them for himself. 457 00:24:56,454 --> 00:24:59,165 And so no other man could be with them. 458 00:24:59,249 --> 00:25:00,959 "They're all objects, and they're mine." 459 00:25:11,427 --> 00:25:13,429 Pastor Lee Jae-rock of Manmin Church 460 00:25:13,513 --> 00:25:15,932 was accused of sexually assaulting nine female followers… 461 00:25:16,015 --> 00:25:17,392 [man] Police believe the assaults… 462 00:25:17,475 --> 00:25:19,227 SEXUAL ASSAULTS AGAINST FOLLOWERS 463 00:25:19,310 --> 00:25:20,895 …happened frequently, perhaps over years. 464 00:25:20,979 --> 00:25:22,146 LEE ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ASSAULTS 465 00:25:23,189 --> 00:25:24,566 APRIL 26, 2018 FIRST POLICE SUMMONS 466 00:25:24,649 --> 00:25:27,652 [woman] You denied all the charges. So there was no sexual intercourse? 467 00:25:27,735 --> 00:25:30,113 [man] This is dangerous. Please, he's walking here… 468 00:25:30,196 --> 00:25:32,031 -[woman] You deny any sex? -[man] He's hurt… 469 00:25:32,115 --> 00:25:34,075 Go. Go. Could you just go? 470 00:25:34,158 --> 00:25:37,287 [woman] Are you denying any intercourse? Or just the sexual assault? 471 00:25:37,370 --> 00:25:39,163 [Jae-rock] I deny everything. 472 00:25:39,247 --> 00:25:41,332 [woman] Why did you call female members at night? 473 00:25:41,416 --> 00:25:42,417 [man] Just go. 474 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:45,003 They say they hated it when you asked them for sexual intercourse. 475 00:25:45,086 --> 00:25:46,671 -[man] Sir-- -[Jae-rock] I never did that. 476 00:25:46,754 --> 00:25:48,339 [woman] You never did anything like that? 477 00:25:48,423 --> 00:25:50,216 -[man] Excuse us, Choi. -[woman] Don't you-- 478 00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:52,260 Don't you want to apologize to your victims? 479 00:25:52,343 --> 00:25:54,929 [man] Okay. Watch your leg, sir. 480 00:25:58,891 --> 00:26:00,059 Be careful, sir. 481 00:26:02,604 --> 00:26:05,231 I mean… it was unbelievable. 482 00:26:05,315 --> 00:26:06,566 Completely unbelievable. 483 00:26:06,649 --> 00:26:09,611 I thought, "How can something this absurd happen?" 484 00:26:09,694 --> 00:26:14,032 Honestly… who could have imagined he was a sex offender? 485 00:26:14,616 --> 00:26:16,159 I thought they were rumors. 486 00:26:17,076 --> 00:26:18,995 Manmin Church and its members 487 00:26:19,078 --> 00:26:22,332 do not acknowledge the claims of Pastor Lee's sexual assaults. 488 00:26:22,832 --> 00:26:26,461 We believe that such claims will be revealed to be false. 489 00:26:27,211 --> 00:26:30,923 First, stop all false claims! 490 00:26:31,007 --> 00:26:32,675 -[woman] Stop them! Stop them! -[all shout] 491 00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:34,260 BE STRONG, PASTOR! STOP THE FALSE CLAIMS 492 00:26:34,344 --> 00:26:38,514 The church will prove Pastor Lee's innocence. 493 00:26:38,598 --> 00:26:40,099 [woman] We'll prove it! We'll prove it! 494 00:26:40,183 --> 00:26:41,517 WE LOVE YOU, PASTOR LEE! 495 00:26:41,601 --> 00:26:43,978 When we started gathering material for the piece… 496 00:26:44,062 --> 00:26:46,022 LEE MOON-HYEON, REPORTER SOCIETY DEPARTMENT OF MBC 497 00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:49,275 …we thought he was the leader of a cult or something like that. 498 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,402 But what we never imagined was that 499 00:26:52,028 --> 00:26:54,739 we were actually dealing with a dangerous criminal. 500 00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:58,409 Another sexual assault victim filed a lawsuit 501 00:26:58,493 --> 00:27:01,204 against Pastor Lee Jae-rock of Manmin Central Church, 502 00:27:01,287 --> 00:27:04,666 who's being investigated for sexually assaulting his followers. 503 00:27:04,749 --> 00:27:05,917 Here's the story. 504 00:27:06,918 --> 00:27:11,005 [Moon-hyeon] She says she was sexually assaulted by Pastor Lee of Manmin Church… 505 00:27:12,298 --> 00:27:16,344 The victim was like a leader among younger members. 506 00:27:16,427 --> 00:27:19,222 She brought in some evidence… 507 00:27:19,305 --> 00:27:20,807 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 508 00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:23,518 along with some pictures she took with Jae-rock. 509 00:27:24,435 --> 00:27:27,105 All these sources helped a lot during the investigation. 510 00:27:31,150 --> 00:27:34,696 There, I learned things like virtue, honesty, and love. 511 00:27:35,363 --> 00:27:38,533 I loved learning that. It was something good. 512 00:27:40,743 --> 00:27:43,413 [Moon-hyeon] She was very specific about the last time 513 00:27:43,496 --> 00:27:46,749 she had been sexually assaulted by him, and where it took place. 514 00:27:47,417 --> 00:27:51,629 It was information that wouldn't be shared with just anyone in the church, 515 00:27:51,713 --> 00:27:54,507 so that's how I knew I could trust her story. 516 00:27:58,261 --> 00:28:04,267 She said she first received a personal call from Jae-rock in 2011. 517 00:28:05,768 --> 00:28:07,520 [ringing] 518 00:28:11,899 --> 00:28:13,025 [Jae-rock] How are you? 519 00:28:15,987 --> 00:28:19,157 [Moon-hyeon] She said she was ecstatic. She was born religious. 520 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:24,328 Then, all of a sudden, the man she was convinced was God, 521 00:28:24,412 --> 00:28:27,373 this noble and holy man, was calling her. 522 00:28:27,457 --> 00:28:29,542 TESTIMONY OF A FEMALE VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT 523 00:28:29,625 --> 00:28:33,629 [woman] I thought, "Maybe he wants to discuss my Measure of Faith in private." 524 00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:37,008 "Or maybe he'll assign me a duty and a title." 525 00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:40,052 [romantic music] 526 00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:50,104 He said, "Hey, can you come to the apartment?" 527 00:28:50,897 --> 00:28:54,692 "No one knows about this place, so please don't tell anybody." 528 00:28:59,572 --> 00:29:02,658 So I left my house and took a cab there. 529 00:29:03,743 --> 00:29:07,705 He was pretty careful. He said, "Don't use a card. Use cash." 530 00:29:18,758 --> 00:29:22,261 They wanted to prove their conviction, and dipped into their savings, 531 00:29:22,345 --> 00:29:25,431 withdrew the money in cash, and put it in an envelope. 532 00:29:25,973 --> 00:29:29,852 It was simple. Then they changed into their clean, white clothes. 533 00:29:32,355 --> 00:29:35,107 [witness 1] I felt so nervous when I pressed the doorbell. 534 00:29:35,191 --> 00:29:36,692 [bell rings] 535 00:29:36,776 --> 00:29:38,361 I was praying on my way there. 536 00:29:39,570 --> 00:29:43,574 Then even the way he poked his head out was so shocking to me. 537 00:29:46,661 --> 00:29:50,164 As I went in, I noticed there was a large mattress right in the living room. 538 00:29:51,415 --> 00:29:53,417 [romantic music continues] 539 00:30:25,491 --> 00:30:28,077 All of the victims' stories have great similarities. 540 00:30:28,661 --> 00:30:30,496 They were all invited to his house. 541 00:30:32,665 --> 00:30:33,583 [bell rings] 542 00:30:37,753 --> 00:30:39,672 And he told them, "I am God." 543 00:30:39,755 --> 00:30:42,008 "So, there's nothing wrong with what happens here." 544 00:30:42,091 --> 00:30:46,888 He said, "This is the Garden of Eden. Therefore, you must be naked." 545 00:30:46,971 --> 00:30:49,390 Those are the kind of things he told the victims. 546 00:30:49,974 --> 00:30:51,767 Then, the saddest thing, 547 00:30:52,268 --> 00:30:55,688 the victims didn't really know what was happening to them. 548 00:30:56,606 --> 00:30:58,107 TESTIMONY OF A VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT 549 00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:59,692 [witness 2] I couldn't think straight. 550 00:31:00,943 --> 00:31:01,903 "What's going on?" 551 00:31:02,778 --> 00:31:05,197 "Is it okay for him to do this to me?" 552 00:31:05,281 --> 00:31:07,783 "What is this? What's going on?" 553 00:31:11,537 --> 00:31:15,583 "I see, this must be his Grace protecting me from the other men out there." 554 00:31:18,544 --> 00:31:21,297 I prayed for about a month, and I guess at that point, 555 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:24,842 I just accepted the thought that it must have been God's grace. 556 00:31:42,318 --> 00:31:44,320 [thunder crashing] 557 00:31:47,823 --> 00:31:50,117 [Seong-kwang] He wasn't God. He was the Devil. 558 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:54,538 He used to say, "You are in the presence of God." 559 00:31:55,289 --> 00:31:59,460 And also, "Just by touching my body, you'll be healed." 560 00:31:59,543 --> 00:32:00,753 "You'll go to Heaven." 561 00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:02,755 He was the Devil in sheep's clothing. 562 00:32:09,428 --> 00:32:10,429 TESTIMONY OF A VICTIM 563 00:32:10,513 --> 00:32:12,098 [witness 4] He unclasped my bra. 564 00:32:12,181 --> 00:32:15,393 I was surprised because he was so good at it. 565 00:32:16,143 --> 00:32:18,062 [Jeong-hye] "Who owns your pussy, Jeong-hye?" 566 00:32:18,604 --> 00:32:21,857 He looked… very closely at that part. 567 00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:24,735 He just stared at it. 568 00:32:28,197 --> 00:32:31,409 He brought my face closer to his genital area. 569 00:32:32,034 --> 00:32:34,537 Then he said, "That's not right." 570 00:32:35,037 --> 00:32:36,455 "Your teeth are hurting me." 571 00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:43,713 While we were having sex, he kept asking me if it felt good. 572 00:32:43,796 --> 00:32:45,506 And he told me to moan. 573 00:32:45,589 --> 00:32:47,133 "Good? Good?" 574 00:32:48,801 --> 00:32:50,469 [witness 5] All of us had to pay attention 575 00:32:50,553 --> 00:32:53,806 and keep watching while he had sex with my friends. 576 00:33:02,606 --> 00:33:06,360 [witness 4] He said we were too clumsy and made us watch porn and practice. 577 00:33:06,444 --> 00:33:11,240 So when his assistant played porn for us, I would practice my moaning. 578 00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:15,453 PLEASE NOTE THIS FOOTAGE IS NOT RELATED TO THE ACTUAL VICTIMS 579 00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:19,957 [witness 6] Those girls were really pretty. 580 00:33:20,041 --> 00:33:23,502 It was clear that he preferred girls who were born religious like me, 581 00:33:23,586 --> 00:33:25,629 because they were more naive, 582 00:33:25,713 --> 00:33:27,673 and they'd never been touched by a man. 583 00:33:30,092 --> 00:33:31,761 After he sexually assaulted us, 584 00:33:32,845 --> 00:33:35,222 he gave each one of us around three million won. 585 00:33:36,682 --> 00:33:40,728 People suddenly started getting nice cars and houses 586 00:33:40,811 --> 00:33:44,940 That was fairly common. "Where did they get the money to buy those things?" 587 00:33:46,525 --> 00:33:49,945 [witness 4] He gave me an envelope with a million won. It was all in cash. 588 00:33:50,029 --> 00:33:51,864 TESTIMONY OF A FEMALE VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT 589 00:33:53,074 --> 00:33:55,785 [Jeong-hye] I used to get two to three million won. 590 00:33:57,411 --> 00:34:01,999 [witness 3] He wrote "4,500" in green ink on a white envelope he gave me. 591 00:34:04,085 --> 00:34:06,253 He gave me six million won. 592 00:34:06,337 --> 00:34:10,549 It all came from the offerings. That's where he got the money from. 593 00:34:10,633 --> 00:34:12,676 I think he gave me two million won. 594 00:34:13,177 --> 00:34:14,720 Five million at most. 595 00:34:15,262 --> 00:34:16,764 I also paid offerings. 596 00:34:18,432 --> 00:34:21,519 There were many times when I would just return all that money. 597 00:34:22,728 --> 00:34:24,897 I didn't know what to do with the money. 598 00:34:24,980 --> 00:34:28,234 I didn't want to spend any of it. For me, it didn't make sense to use it. 599 00:34:28,317 --> 00:34:29,985 So I gave it back to the church. 600 00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:34,365 After that, their Measure of Faith would suddenly increase considerably. 601 00:34:36,283 --> 00:34:41,247 A lot of the Performing Arts Committee had really high rankings in the church. 602 00:34:41,831 --> 00:34:43,874 I think there were 20 to 30 people. 603 00:34:43,958 --> 00:34:45,543 So everything was connected. 604 00:34:46,043 --> 00:34:47,837 You had to elevate your spirit, 605 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,798 but for you to achieve that, you had to sleep with him. 606 00:34:52,341 --> 00:34:55,719 Not only that, but he continued to assault his previous victims. 607 00:34:56,387 --> 00:35:00,141 We will not give in to the unfaithful demands, dear Pastor Lee. 608 00:35:00,224 --> 00:35:01,809 [all] Amen! 609 00:35:01,892 --> 00:35:03,769 [woman] We're here for you! 610 00:35:03,853 --> 00:35:05,646 [group] You can do it! 611 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,192 We love you with all our hearts! 612 00:35:13,154 --> 00:35:17,032 The image of the pastor that we grew up with never really changed. 613 00:35:17,116 --> 00:35:21,537 Through all these years, he maintained a kind and loving image. 614 00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:23,706 We've only seen one side of him, 615 00:35:23,789 --> 00:35:26,542 standing by the members of the church through their ups and downs. 616 00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:28,836 We just thought those women were promiscuous. 617 00:35:28,919 --> 00:35:31,422 That they liked to fool around with men. 618 00:35:31,505 --> 00:35:34,341 FOR I AM A GOOD SHEPHERD, I WILL SACRIFICE MYSELF FOR MY SHEEP 619 00:35:34,425 --> 00:35:37,094 [man] "They were immoral. Sinners." 620 00:35:37,970 --> 00:35:39,263 People spread rumors. 621 00:35:39,763 --> 00:35:41,891 They'd say things at private gatherings. 622 00:35:41,974 --> 00:35:43,434 They'd say they were dirty. 623 00:35:47,855 --> 00:35:51,775 Some of the adults did know what was happening to us. 624 00:35:52,276 --> 00:35:55,196 But they still wouldn't leave the church. 625 00:35:56,113 --> 00:35:58,991 That was because he said he was holy. 626 00:35:59,491 --> 00:36:04,997 They said, "A simple human can't judge this man's holy actions." 627 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,001 If one single person had spoken out, 628 00:36:09,501 --> 00:36:12,546 none of this would have lasted for decades. 629 00:36:13,672 --> 00:36:16,800 I'm sure it wouldn't have lasted so many years. 630 00:36:20,179 --> 00:36:21,180 SECOND POLICE SUMMONS 631 00:36:21,263 --> 00:36:23,474 -[Moon-hyeon] Do you admit it? -Where are we going? 632 00:36:23,557 --> 00:36:25,935 -[Moon-hyeon] Why did you do it? -[Choi] Are you admitting it? 633 00:36:26,018 --> 00:36:27,728 [Moon-hyeon] You're not gonna talk? 634 00:36:27,811 --> 00:36:30,731 -Why did you call your members? -[Choi] You think you're the Holy Spirit? 635 00:36:30,814 --> 00:36:33,359 [Moon-hyeon] We kept asking questions right up to the elevator. 636 00:36:34,151 --> 00:36:37,738 But Jae-rock didn't say anything to defend himself or anything like that. 637 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,452 And the people around him were trying to shove away the reporters that were there. 638 00:36:43,953 --> 00:36:46,330 I remember him seeming shameless. 639 00:36:46,413 --> 00:36:48,249 -Move away, please. -[Choi] Excuse me! 640 00:36:48,332 --> 00:36:50,542 [Moon-hyeon] Why were they in your room at night? 641 00:36:50,626 --> 00:36:51,919 Tell us about April 12! 642 00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:57,299 ACCUSED OF SEXUALLY ASSAULTING CHURCH MEMBERS 643 00:36:57,383 --> 00:37:00,636 PASTOR LEE JAE-ROCK'S SECOND POLICE SUMMONS 644 00:37:02,846 --> 00:37:05,349 After that, he continued to deny the charges 645 00:37:05,432 --> 00:37:07,393 during the prosecutor's investigation. 646 00:37:07,476 --> 00:37:10,312 During the trial, he would just deny everything. 647 00:37:10,396 --> 00:37:12,690 He claimed he had never assaulted them. 648 00:37:12,773 --> 00:37:14,817 He hired very expensive lawyers 649 00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:18,279 and pleaded not guilty until the very end. 650 00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:23,325 There was a very specific incident that brought down Manmin. 651 00:37:23,409 --> 00:37:26,078 An audio of a female member began to circulate. 652 00:37:26,578 --> 00:37:29,915 She was one of the most prominent and active members of the church. 653 00:37:29,999 --> 00:37:34,378 It's an audio of this person talking to one of her friends. 654 00:37:34,962 --> 00:37:36,797 In that recording, she's saying 655 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,758 that there was nothing wrong with having sex with Jae-rock. 656 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,470 RECORDING PROVIDED BY THE VICTIM IN 2018 657 00:37:43,554 --> 00:37:46,557 [woman 1] Do you really think it's okay he demands that from unwilling women 658 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,684 just because he's the Holy Spirit? 659 00:37:48,767 --> 00:37:51,145 -You never thought that it was wrong? -[woman 2] No. 660 00:37:51,228 --> 00:37:53,022 [woman 1] So you're always completely obedient? 661 00:37:53,105 --> 00:37:54,565 [woman 2] Yes. 662 00:37:54,648 --> 00:37:57,067 -It's not that weird. -[woman 1] Why isn't it weird? 663 00:37:57,568 --> 00:38:00,738 Do you have to do everything that he says, then? Even having sex? 664 00:38:01,655 --> 00:38:05,075 [woman 2] Pastor Lee is God. It's okay. 665 00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:07,578 If he says it's not a sin, then it's not a sin. 666 00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:09,872 [choral music] 667 00:38:09,955 --> 00:38:12,833 When I listened to that, I realized that it was all true. 668 00:38:12,916 --> 00:38:15,961 I found my 20 years of faith shattered in just two hours. 669 00:38:17,546 --> 00:38:21,425 [producer] So, how did it feel to have 20 years of faith shattered? 670 00:38:21,508 --> 00:38:23,510 [choral music swells] 671 00:38:32,895 --> 00:38:36,482 Uh, I guess it felt like… my mind… 672 00:38:38,317 --> 00:38:40,861 going completely blank in a second. 673 00:38:41,570 --> 00:38:45,949 It felt like my head was getting slammed with a huge hammer. 674 00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:50,371 I was so shocked that I couldn't do anything all day. Yeah. 675 00:38:52,623 --> 00:38:54,208 It was unimaginable. 676 00:38:54,291 --> 00:38:57,586 You never think that God could do something like that. 677 00:38:57,669 --> 00:38:58,837 "Huh?" 678 00:38:59,755 --> 00:39:00,881 I was stunned. 679 00:39:02,007 --> 00:39:04,343 I felt like I had suddenly been hit by a bomb. 680 00:39:06,637 --> 00:39:09,973 I mean, Jae-rock was over 50 years older than them. 681 00:39:10,057 --> 00:39:11,475 And he knew them all. 682 00:39:11,558 --> 00:39:13,936 These were kids who went to his church 683 00:39:15,229 --> 00:39:16,563 He prayed with them. 684 00:39:16,647 --> 00:39:20,317 These kids first came to the church carried by their mothers, 685 00:39:20,818 --> 00:39:23,112 and he did unspeakable things to them. 686 00:39:24,113 --> 00:39:27,116 At first, I almost went after him. 687 00:39:28,659 --> 00:39:31,161 It was all completely outrageous. 688 00:39:33,122 --> 00:39:36,375 [witness 2] To think he'd practically raised those girls since they were kids, 689 00:39:36,458 --> 00:39:40,212 and then did that to them when they were just teenagers until their 20s… 690 00:39:40,295 --> 00:39:43,298 He was in his 70s. I don't even know what to call him. 691 00:39:43,382 --> 00:39:45,509 Pervert? Degenerate? 692 00:39:46,969 --> 00:39:49,555 I wonder what I would have done in their place. 693 00:39:49,638 --> 00:39:51,932 If Pastor Lee had called me to his room, 694 00:39:52,015 --> 00:39:53,475 and asked me to do that. 695 00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,687 To take off my clothes, saying we were like Adam and Eve. 696 00:39:56,770 --> 00:39:59,690 It may sound shocking, but I think I would have obeyed him. 697 00:40:00,441 --> 00:40:02,151 RECORDING PROVIDED BY THE VICTIM IN 2018 698 00:40:02,234 --> 00:40:04,862 [Jae-rock] I love you so much, spiritually. 699 00:40:04,945 --> 00:40:09,408 The body is a very important thing, but I love you with my spirit. 700 00:40:09,491 --> 00:40:11,410 [woman, tearfully] I know that. 701 00:40:11,493 --> 00:40:15,664 [Jae-rock] If you don't like physical love, I won't even consider it. 702 00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:16,874 [woman sighs] 703 00:40:16,957 --> 00:40:19,293 [Jae-rock] I won't consider it if you don't like it. 704 00:40:20,252 --> 00:40:22,212 I don't love you just because of that. 705 00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:25,132 [woman] Okay. [sniffles] 706 00:40:25,215 --> 00:40:26,383 [Jae-rock] All right. 707 00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:29,052 I'll see you tomorrow. 708 00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:32,347 -[woman, sobbing] Okay, thank you. -[Jae-rock] Sure. 709 00:40:33,140 --> 00:40:35,392 -I love you. -[woman] Okay. Bye. 710 00:40:36,894 --> 00:40:38,896 -[sniffling] -[hangs up] 711 00:40:43,192 --> 00:40:47,613 The day their God was destroyed was May 3rd, 2018. 712 00:40:48,363 --> 00:40:49,531 That was the day. 713 00:40:54,203 --> 00:40:56,205 [camera shutters clicking] 714 00:41:01,293 --> 00:41:03,712 [woman] We're here for you! Stay strong. 715 00:41:05,881 --> 00:41:07,549 MAY 3, 2018 LEE JAE-ROCK IS ARRESTED 716 00:41:07,633 --> 00:41:09,134 Do you admit it? 717 00:41:09,218 --> 00:41:10,802 [dramatic music] 718 00:41:10,886 --> 00:41:12,304 Do you deny the charges? 719 00:41:12,387 --> 00:41:15,265 At the prayer meeting, you said you don't fear the police. 720 00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:16,600 What do you mean by that? 721 00:41:17,267 --> 00:41:20,437 Pastor Lee of Manmin Central Church has been arrested, 722 00:41:20,521 --> 00:41:23,524 after being charged with multiple sexual assaults. 723 00:41:24,566 --> 00:41:26,235 [echoing footsteps] 724 00:41:27,528 --> 00:41:28,987 [dramatic music intensifies] 725 00:41:45,546 --> 00:41:48,757 [Myeong-jun] The day of his arrest, it suddenly started hailing. 726 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,425 Almost as if God were angry. 727 00:41:52,803 --> 00:41:55,722 [Kwang-oh] Manmin Church calls that day the "Hail Incident." 728 00:41:56,890 --> 00:42:00,185 All the members were furious, saying he was being put through hardship. 729 00:42:00,269 --> 00:42:02,020 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 730 00:42:02,104 --> 00:42:03,689 [crowd clamoring] 731 00:42:05,107 --> 00:42:07,276 [man] Disclose the truth! The truth! 732 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:08,652 [all] We want the truth! 733 00:42:08,735 --> 00:42:10,696 WHY IS OUR PASTOR LOCKED UP FOR 15 YEARS? 734 00:42:10,779 --> 00:42:12,781 [chanting] We want truth! We want truth! 735 00:42:12,864 --> 00:42:14,866 PASTOR LEE WAS FRAMED 736 00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:16,785 [group singing in Korean] 737 00:42:18,787 --> 00:42:22,374 BRING OUT THE LIE DETECTOR 738 00:42:22,457 --> 00:42:24,459 TRANSPORT 739 00:42:25,794 --> 00:42:26,878 [man] There he is. 740 00:42:27,713 --> 00:42:29,715 There he is, right there. You got him? 741 00:42:31,717 --> 00:42:37,014 For many people, it was their first time seeing him looking like a coward. 742 00:42:38,181 --> 00:42:41,310 When he got out of the car, he seemed wary to me. 743 00:42:42,978 --> 00:42:45,814 They say he didn't have white hair because he was God. 744 00:42:45,897 --> 00:42:48,567 He was supposed to keep his black hair even as he got older. 745 00:42:52,863 --> 00:42:54,865 But he looked like a random old man. 746 00:42:55,532 --> 00:42:57,534 [dramatic music continues] 747 00:43:00,537 --> 00:43:07,502 DEFENDANT LEE JAE-ROCK SENTENCED TO 16 YEARS IN JAIL 748 00:43:10,589 --> 00:43:12,591 [woman] Dear Lord, keep us in your heart… 749 00:43:12,674 --> 00:43:14,676 JANUARY 18, 2018 FILMED BY CREW OF PD NOTE 750 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,970 …as we wish Pastor Lee a very happy new year. 751 00:43:17,054 --> 00:43:18,889 Let's say "Happy New Year," and bow. 752 00:43:19,931 --> 00:43:22,851 [all] Happy New Year, dear Pastor Lee! 753 00:43:25,187 --> 00:43:29,274 SOME MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH MEMBERS ARE STILL WAITING FOR PASTOR LEE JAE-ROCK 754 00:43:29,358 --> 00:43:31,652 -[group shouting] -[man] Our dear Pastor Lee! 755 00:43:33,070 --> 00:43:36,490 -We miss you a lot! -[woman] Come back to us soon! 756 00:43:39,576 --> 00:43:42,245 LEE KWANG-OH, CORRECTION ADVISOR AT SEOUL NAMBU DETENTION CENTER 757 00:43:42,329 --> 00:43:45,207 I am currently Director of Corrections at Seoul Nambu Detention Center. 758 00:43:45,791 --> 00:43:48,835 I have authority in the detention center. 759 00:43:53,298 --> 00:43:57,469 I visited the center in Daegu in March 2021. 760 00:44:01,306 --> 00:44:04,643 I wondered, what was the true nature of this deceptive man? 761 00:44:04,726 --> 00:44:06,144 How was his life in prison? 762 00:44:08,355 --> 00:44:10,273 So, when I saw him, I said, "Hey, Jae-rock!" 763 00:44:12,234 --> 00:44:13,527 He glanced at me. 764 00:44:14,361 --> 00:44:18,323 Just imagine how my heart was pounding when I said his name. 765 00:44:18,407 --> 00:44:20,409 [rapid heartbeat] 766 00:44:21,785 --> 00:44:24,579 "You need to live a better life! Aren't you afraid of God?" 767 00:44:25,497 --> 00:44:27,416 That's what I wanted to say, but then… 768 00:44:30,210 --> 00:44:31,545 he didn't recognize me. 769 00:44:34,589 --> 00:44:36,842 Even in prison, he was the leader of his cell. 770 00:44:36,925 --> 00:44:39,928 He always has five million won kept in custody. 771 00:44:41,054 --> 00:44:43,515 He's eating well and living well. 772 00:44:44,349 --> 00:44:46,101 [unsettling music] 773 00:44:47,227 --> 00:44:48,895 ALL INTERVIEWS IN THIS DOCUMENTARY USE REAL TESTIMONIES 774 00:44:48,979 --> 00:44:51,064 TO PROTECT THE SUBJECTS' IDENTITY, SOME INTERVIEWS HAVE BEEN REENACTED