1 00:00:06,466 --> 00:00:08,301 THE FOLLOWING EPISODE CONTAINS DESCRIPTIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE 2 00:00:08,384 --> 00:00:09,677 WHICH MAY BE DISTURBING FOR SOME VIEWERS 3 00:00:09,761 --> 00:00:11,512 IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW HAS EXPERIENCED SEXUAL ABUSE 4 00:00:11,596 --> 00:00:14,015 PLEASE VISIT WANNATALKABOUTIT.COM FOR MORE INFORMATION AND CRISIS RESOURCES 5 00:00:20,063 --> 00:00:21,564 RECORDING PROVIDED BY THE VICTIM IN 2018 6 00:00:21,647 --> 00:00:24,025 -You never thought it was wrong? -No. 7 00:00:24,108 --> 00:00:26,110 -You're always obedient? -Yes. 8 00:00:26,194 --> 00:00:27,403 It's not that weird. 9 00:00:27,487 --> 00:00:31,574 Why isn't it weird? Do you have to do everything he says, then? 10 00:00:31,657 --> 00:00:32,825 Even having sex? 11 00:00:33,659 --> 00:00:36,704 Pastor Lee is God. It's okay. 12 00:00:37,288 --> 00:00:39,791 If he says it's not a sin, then it's not a sin. 13 00:00:42,627 --> 00:00:44,295 "I do this because I love you." 14 00:00:45,046 --> 00:00:46,589 Because he's God. 15 00:00:46,672 --> 00:00:50,301 He wanted to see my breasts. He asked me to undress. 16 00:00:51,177 --> 00:00:52,845 And he told me to moan. 17 00:00:53,721 --> 00:00:57,058 He looked… very closely at that part. 18 00:00:57,141 --> 00:00:58,643 He just stared at it. 19 00:01:01,229 --> 00:01:03,439 Even if I have some flaws, 20 00:01:03,523 --> 00:01:05,399 even if I kissed somebody, 21 00:01:06,818 --> 00:01:08,569 and even if I laid next to them, 22 00:01:09,153 --> 00:01:11,489 I believe that you will forgive me. 23 00:01:11,572 --> 00:01:13,574 I have no shame in front of God. 24 00:01:13,658 --> 00:01:15,368 I truly don't feel ashamed. 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,748 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 26 00:01:21,791 --> 00:01:22,834 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 27 00:01:24,085 --> 00:01:26,546 IN THE NAME OF GOD: A HOLY BETRAYAL 28 00:01:33,344 --> 00:01:38,933 GOD OF MANMIN WHO WENT TO PRISON 29 00:01:42,687 --> 00:01:45,022 Our beloved members of Manmin, 30 00:01:45,523 --> 00:01:47,650 welcome to the pastor's castle. 31 00:01:47,775 --> 00:01:48,943 Welcome! 32 00:01:55,408 --> 00:01:58,828 Our Father is preparing this wonderful place 33 00:01:59,453 --> 00:02:01,998 for all the faithful believers of Manmin. 34 00:02:07,837 --> 00:02:09,463 There are five levels to Heaven. 35 00:02:09,547 --> 00:02:12,049 In the first one, you stay in a place called Paradise. 36 00:02:12,133 --> 00:02:13,134 PARADISE 37 00:02:13,217 --> 00:02:15,261 The Kingdom of Heaven is the second. 38 00:02:15,344 --> 00:02:17,180 FIRST KINGDOM OF HEAVEN SECOND KINGDOM OF HEAVEN 39 00:02:17,263 --> 00:02:19,390 The Second Kingdom is above Paradise. 40 00:02:20,057 --> 00:02:21,475 Then the Third Kingdom. 41 00:02:21,559 --> 00:02:22,685 THIRD KINGDOM OF HEAVEN 42 00:02:22,768 --> 00:02:24,937 And at the very top is New Jerusalem. 43 00:02:25,021 --> 00:02:27,481 NEW JERUSALEM 44 00:02:27,565 --> 00:02:29,734 In Paradise, you'll live in the fields forever. 45 00:02:29,817 --> 00:02:31,319 MEASURE OF FAITH FIRST LEVEL - PARADISE 46 00:02:31,402 --> 00:02:33,112 The First Kingdom has buildings. 47 00:02:33,696 --> 00:02:35,615 In the Second, you get to live in a house. 48 00:02:36,157 --> 00:02:38,284 In the Third, you're given a castle. 49 00:02:38,367 --> 00:02:42,538 And a palace waits for you in New Jerusalem. Or so they say. 50 00:02:42,622 --> 00:02:47,043 How thankful are we, knowing we can enter the New Jerusalem. 51 00:02:47,126 --> 00:02:49,503 Thank you so much, dear Father! 52 00:02:49,587 --> 00:02:50,838 Thank you very much! 53 00:02:50,922 --> 00:02:53,341 Thank you very much! 54 00:02:56,427 --> 00:02:59,222 Were there any houses you wanted to have for yourselves? 55 00:02:59,305 --> 00:03:00,139 Amen! 56 00:03:00,223 --> 00:03:02,725 Yeah, it's a very big place. 57 00:03:03,351 --> 00:03:07,480 The main castle is huge, it's… millions of square footage. 58 00:03:07,563 --> 00:03:12,026 There's an ocean, too, and a beautiful lake that you will all love. 59 00:03:13,152 --> 00:03:15,571 My goal in life was to end up there. At the best place. 60 00:03:15,655 --> 00:03:17,198 FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 61 00:03:17,281 --> 00:03:19,158 The closest to the Throne of God. 62 00:03:19,242 --> 00:03:20,534 KIM MYEONG-JUN FORMER MEMBER 63 00:03:20,618 --> 00:03:23,246 Manmin took advantage of that. It's called the Measure of Faith. 64 00:03:23,329 --> 00:03:24,914 TEAM HARMONY KIM MYEONG-JUN, BAPTIST 65 00:03:24,997 --> 00:03:26,540 They turned your faith into a number. 66 00:03:26,624 --> 00:03:29,377 They wrote it on a piece of paper and gave it to you. 67 00:03:29,460 --> 00:03:31,379 "Your faith is at 30%." 68 00:03:31,462 --> 00:03:33,422 "Your faith is at 70%." 69 00:03:33,506 --> 00:03:35,675 So that made people go crazy over it. 70 00:03:35,758 --> 00:03:38,177 They also got very anxious. People with a high Measure … 71 00:03:38,261 --> 00:03:39,303 FOURTH LEVEL 02.90 72 00:03:39,387 --> 00:03:42,223 …were basically like celebrities, and moved up the ranks. 73 00:03:42,306 --> 00:03:46,644 Those who don't get a high Measure fall behind until… they're eliminated. 74 00:03:49,605 --> 00:03:52,692 I was desperate to get higher Measures of Faith. 75 00:03:52,775 --> 00:03:57,321 So I started giving even more, and also investing much more. 76 00:03:58,906 --> 00:03:59,991 Oh, yeah! 77 00:04:00,074 --> 00:04:01,367 FOURTH LEVEL 78 00:04:01,450 --> 00:04:04,453 I… I think I got to three percent on the fourth level. 79 00:04:04,537 --> 00:04:06,080 THIRD LEVEL 80 00:04:06,163 --> 00:04:09,250 I was around 40%. The third level. 81 00:04:09,333 --> 00:04:14,422 I was on the third level with 60-point-something percent. 82 00:04:14,505 --> 00:04:17,675 Getting to 60% on the third level means you stand on the "Rock of Faith." 83 00:04:17,758 --> 00:04:18,843 LEE KWANG-OH FORMER MEMBER 84 00:04:19,552 --> 00:04:22,555 I got that pretty early, and I was so happy to get it quickly. 85 00:04:22,638 --> 00:04:26,684 I think I was number 800 out of 15,000 people. 86 00:04:28,394 --> 00:04:30,313 That was my rank in Heaven. 87 00:04:30,396 --> 00:04:32,231 It was actually very impressive. 88 00:04:32,315 --> 00:04:33,983 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 89 00:04:34,066 --> 00:04:36,736 If you have never been to the Rock of Faith, 90 00:04:36,819 --> 00:04:39,405 if you have never received an acknowledgement, 91 00:04:39,488 --> 00:04:41,532 even though I recognize your face, 92 00:04:43,117 --> 00:04:45,286 there's a reason why you haven't made it yet. 93 00:04:45,369 --> 00:04:46,954 You need to find out what that is. 94 00:04:48,122 --> 00:04:52,460 Now that I think back, only those people who paid a lot would get high percentages. 95 00:04:52,543 --> 00:04:55,046 That's the conclusion that I've come to. 96 00:05:00,134 --> 00:05:06,057 THOU SHALT NOT STEAL 97 00:05:06,140 --> 00:05:07,391 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 98 00:05:08,601 --> 00:05:11,812 In a way, this sermon is a continuation 99 00:05:11,896 --> 00:05:13,898 of the previous sermon that I gave about Hell. 100 00:05:13,981 --> 00:05:16,233 If you don't pay your offerings, 101 00:05:16,317 --> 00:05:19,695 I promise you that the Lord will place a curse upon you. 102 00:05:19,779 --> 00:05:20,946 Amen. 103 00:05:21,447 --> 00:05:22,573 I see it often. 104 00:05:23,991 --> 00:05:25,951 If you get into a car crash 105 00:05:26,035 --> 00:05:27,953 and break and shatter your bones, 106 00:05:28,037 --> 00:05:29,663 or suffers a hemorrhage, 107 00:05:29,747 --> 00:05:32,875 you see, it's always because of the same reason. 108 00:05:33,626 --> 00:05:36,379 It's obvious. It's because you didn't pay. 109 00:05:36,462 --> 00:05:38,381 You have to pay your offerings. 110 00:05:50,893 --> 00:05:53,687 Thank-you offering, sanctuary-building offering, 111 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:56,190 charity offering, special offering. 112 00:05:56,816 --> 00:05:59,360 During a Bible study, during Feast of Harvest, 113 00:05:59,944 --> 00:06:01,070 during Easter. 114 00:06:01,654 --> 00:06:03,864 And there was also one during Christmas. 115 00:06:04,448 --> 00:06:05,699 And a tithe, 116 00:06:06,283 --> 00:06:07,993 based on your income before taxes. 117 00:06:11,747 --> 00:06:14,500 Some people say that they can't pay the tithe 118 00:06:14,583 --> 00:06:17,336 because they're unemployed and don't have income. 119 00:06:17,420 --> 00:06:20,005 But every single person can pay the tithe. 120 00:06:20,089 --> 00:06:24,343 Even young children have income from New Year's, allowances, 121 00:06:24,427 --> 00:06:28,180 other celebrations, school celebrations and birthdays. 122 00:06:28,681 --> 00:06:34,186 The parents can pay the tithe in their child's name by using their income. 123 00:06:39,358 --> 00:06:43,028 There are two ways to give money to the Manmin Church. 124 00:06:43,112 --> 00:06:44,738 Offerings and gifts. 125 00:06:44,822 --> 00:06:48,242 Offerings are the money you give in offering envelopes, 126 00:06:48,325 --> 00:06:50,411 while a gift would be money you give unofficially. 127 00:06:52,455 --> 00:06:54,290 Offerings are a separate thing. 128 00:06:54,373 --> 00:06:56,709 Members pay offerings and gifts, 129 00:06:56,792 --> 00:06:59,211 even if that means they have no money to live on. 130 00:06:59,712 --> 00:07:02,465 And yet, they always donate, 131 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:05,009 even if they go into debt. 132 00:07:06,427 --> 00:07:08,679 He puts members in competition with each other. 133 00:07:09,180 --> 00:07:10,514 to see who can pay more. 134 00:07:11,348 --> 00:07:14,101 "You and you. You both got the first place." 135 00:07:14,185 --> 00:07:17,271 "And you, that elder gets third place." 136 00:07:17,354 --> 00:07:21,400 I think I must have paid somewhere close to one billion won 137 00:07:21,484 --> 00:07:23,986 over the course of 24 years. 138 00:07:24,069 --> 00:07:26,989 I think my family paid over a billion won too. 139 00:07:27,072 --> 00:07:32,411 At the very least, it's 800 million. But I think I paid over a billion won. 140 00:07:32,495 --> 00:07:34,788 There were many people taken advantage of financially. 141 00:07:34,872 --> 00:07:35,998 JANG HO-KI, PRODUCER, PD NOTE 142 00:07:36,081 --> 00:07:39,460 These people dedicated their lives to giving offerings to the church. 143 00:07:39,543 --> 00:07:41,921 He's such an atrocious man, who brainwashed them all… 144 00:07:42,004 --> 00:07:44,632 JANG UN-CHUL, REPORTER AT AMENNEWS.COM REPORTED ON MANMIN CHURCH 145 00:07:44,715 --> 00:07:48,219 …and then, sadly, used that for his own gain. 146 00:07:55,643 --> 00:07:58,771 When you analyze it, a lot of members of the church 147 00:07:58,854 --> 00:08:00,856 had a very poor quality of life. 148 00:08:00,940 --> 00:08:02,733 FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CHURCH CHURCH EMPLOYEE 149 00:08:02,816 --> 00:08:04,735 In terms of earnings, it's probably fair to say 150 00:08:04,818 --> 00:08:09,532 most of the church's members were at the very bottom of the ladder. 151 00:08:10,699 --> 00:08:12,660 Despite that, they gave money to the church. 152 00:08:12,743 --> 00:08:14,370 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 153 00:08:14,453 --> 00:08:17,540 How did that happen? They had two jobs. 154 00:08:17,623 --> 00:08:20,167 Hey, take this to that table. 155 00:08:22,127 --> 00:08:25,548 They worked hard to earn the money for the offerings. 156 00:08:27,591 --> 00:08:29,885 Eight hundred, ten thousand… 157 00:08:29,969 --> 00:08:33,472 They didn't have much money, and a lot of them went into debt. 158 00:08:33,556 --> 00:08:34,848 You leave church after a service. 159 00:08:34,932 --> 00:08:37,142 BYUN SEONG-KWANG, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PD NOTE EPISODE 160 00:08:37,226 --> 00:08:39,853 But at Manmin Church, the members line up and wait afterwards. 161 00:08:41,272 --> 00:08:43,566 -Pastor Lee! -Pastor Lee! 162 00:08:43,649 --> 00:08:45,025 Pastor Lee! 163 00:08:45,109 --> 00:08:47,236 Our entire family supports you! 164 00:08:47,319 --> 00:08:48,529 Thank you. 165 00:08:48,612 --> 00:08:52,491 If you grabbed his hand and asked for a prayer, his car stopped. 166 00:08:55,035 --> 00:08:58,872 A member might get a minute of prayer, 20 or 30 seconds. 167 00:08:58,956 --> 00:08:59,873 Amen! 168 00:09:01,166 --> 00:09:04,169 There's somebody in the car who collects the money envelopes. 169 00:09:04,253 --> 00:09:06,046 He's the director of planning. 170 00:09:07,047 --> 00:09:10,384 As far as I know, a lot of people paid thousands of dollars n offerings 171 00:09:10,467 --> 00:09:11,969 to receive his blessings. 172 00:09:12,052 --> 00:09:14,096 May Jesus lay his hand upon you in prayer. 173 00:09:14,179 --> 00:09:15,723 MISSIONARY MEETING FOR BUSINESSPEOPLE 174 00:09:15,806 --> 00:09:18,851 Show us the inspiration, influence, and greatness of the Holy Spirit. 175 00:09:18,934 --> 00:09:19,810 Amen. 176 00:09:19,893 --> 00:09:21,729 We pray that you'll surround us with light. 177 00:09:21,812 --> 00:09:22,730 Amen. 178 00:09:23,689 --> 00:09:26,108 There is a missionary gathering for businesspeople, 179 00:09:26,191 --> 00:09:27,359 those who give the most money. 180 00:09:27,943 --> 00:09:29,612 We were invited to go. 181 00:09:30,529 --> 00:09:33,699 While there, they collect around three to five million won per person. 182 00:09:35,034 --> 00:09:36,410 The tithe from August… 183 00:09:37,661 --> 00:09:42,583 There were six or seven people who paid nearly ten million won, 184 00:09:43,083 --> 00:09:45,127 but now, we've got more than 12. 185 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:46,128 Amen. 186 00:09:46,211 --> 00:09:48,380 -I'll bring you joy, Father. -All right. 187 00:09:48,464 --> 00:09:50,174 Let's go to the car to receive prayers. 188 00:09:50,257 --> 00:09:51,925 -Sure. -Over here. 189 00:09:52,801 --> 00:09:54,219 -Okay. -Come on. 190 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,930 -Let's hug. -Sure, sure. Sure. 191 00:09:57,514 --> 00:09:59,016 I got a new car, Pastor. 192 00:09:59,808 --> 00:10:02,269 -Where is it from? -Germany. 193 00:10:04,104 --> 00:10:05,481 Father, bless this car. 194 00:10:05,981 --> 00:10:08,734 -Please bless this key as well. -Amen. 195 00:10:08,817 --> 00:10:10,069 Bless your light upon it. 196 00:10:10,152 --> 00:10:12,237 -In the name of Jesus! -Amen. 197 00:10:12,321 --> 00:10:13,989 Please, dear God, bless this car. 198 00:10:14,073 --> 00:10:15,783 -Amen. -Amen. 199 00:10:20,037 --> 00:10:22,706 You had to pay to take a picture with Pastor Lee. 200 00:10:23,290 --> 00:10:25,668 I don't remember the exact price. 201 00:10:25,751 --> 00:10:27,628 It started out not being much. 202 00:10:27,711 --> 00:10:29,755 But then, there were so many who wanted 203 00:10:29,838 --> 00:10:32,049 to have their picture taken with Pastor Lee, 204 00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:34,551 they ended up paying at least a million won per picture. 205 00:10:35,135 --> 00:10:38,263 I'm sure I gave around ten million won for a picture. 206 00:10:54,363 --> 00:10:56,073 These are the pictures I paid for. 207 00:10:58,409 --> 00:11:00,703 I had over 40 of those framed. 208 00:11:06,333 --> 00:11:09,294 The total cost is easily over 400 million won. 209 00:11:10,546 --> 00:11:11,588 MANMIN CHURCH BOOKSTORE 210 00:11:11,672 --> 00:11:14,466 Manmin Church had a store called Manmin Bookstore. 211 00:11:14,550 --> 00:11:16,093 BENEDICTION, EXTRA-LARGE FRAME 80,000 WON 212 00:11:16,176 --> 00:11:17,594 They sold pictures of Jae-rock… 213 00:11:17,678 --> 00:11:19,012 BENEDICTION, LARGE FRAME 50,000 WON 214 00:11:19,096 --> 00:11:22,141 …key rings, notebooks, all kinds of paraphernalia like that. 215 00:11:22,224 --> 00:11:24,351 And people would buy these things too. 216 00:11:25,769 --> 00:11:27,980 In a way, it's a really shrewd business. 217 00:11:28,063 --> 00:11:30,649 The funniest one for me was Muan Sweet Water. 218 00:11:34,153 --> 00:11:37,281 These people put Muan Sweet Water 219 00:11:37,364 --> 00:11:39,616 in these small spray bottles to make it easier to use. 220 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:40,576 MUAN SWEET WATER 221 00:11:40,659 --> 00:11:41,660 It was crazy. 222 00:11:41,744 --> 00:11:44,037 You could spray it on to get double eyelids. 223 00:11:44,621 --> 00:11:47,416 It was also supposed to fix broken washing machines. 224 00:11:49,543 --> 00:11:52,880 Muan Sweet Water worked its miracle on a broken washing machine. 225 00:11:54,006 --> 00:11:55,799 It was stuck. I was desperate. 226 00:11:55,883 --> 00:11:58,302 I spent ages trying to open it, then it opened with a click 227 00:11:58,385 --> 00:12:00,387 right after I sprayed the Muan Sweet Water. 228 00:12:00,471 --> 00:12:01,972 The washing machine works well now. 229 00:12:02,055 --> 00:12:03,807 Everything is fine now. 230 00:12:04,391 --> 00:12:05,851 Everything is fixed. 231 00:12:05,934 --> 00:12:08,312 The door wouldn't open for over an hour, 232 00:12:08,896 --> 00:12:10,689 but it unbolted with a click 233 00:12:10,773 --> 00:12:13,275 right after it was sprayed with Muan Sweet Water. 234 00:12:22,868 --> 00:12:24,870 To Manmin Church, Muan Sweet Water 235 00:12:24,953 --> 00:12:26,705 is like a cure-all for the members. 236 00:12:26,789 --> 00:12:30,000 They say there's this light, and also this power, 237 00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:33,837 and something magical in this common water just because Jae-rock prayed over it. 238 00:12:33,921 --> 00:12:35,547 PLEASE GIVE THIS WATER SPIRITUAL POWER… 239 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,552 So, they claim that the users can experience some kind of miracle 240 00:12:40,636 --> 00:12:42,596 if you drink it or put it on yourself. 241 00:12:49,061 --> 00:12:50,938 They had a thing called "Mailbox" 242 00:12:51,021 --> 00:12:53,857 where you could call an automatic response system 243 00:12:53,941 --> 00:12:57,569 and you could listen to pre-recorded messages from Pastor Lee. 244 00:12:57,653 --> 00:12:59,488 This is Manmin Central Church. 245 00:12:59,571 --> 00:13:02,533 Press 10 to start your day with Pastor Lee's prayers. 246 00:13:02,616 --> 00:13:04,326 Press 20 to hear a prayer for recovery. 247 00:13:04,409 --> 00:13:07,746 30 for a three-minute sermon. Press 40 for a prayer for the sick. 248 00:13:08,956 --> 00:13:11,959 Before my grandfather died, he was hospitalized. 249 00:13:12,042 --> 00:13:13,502 I wanted him to heal. 250 00:13:13,585 --> 00:13:17,422 So, I remember I played Jae-rock's voicemail prayers for the sick for him. 251 00:13:17,506 --> 00:13:18,966 I remember it clearly. 252 00:13:20,092 --> 00:13:22,469 Let me begin the prayer for the sick. 253 00:13:22,970 --> 00:13:25,472 Place your hand on the place where it hurts. 254 00:13:25,556 --> 00:13:28,350 If you're not ill, then simply put your hand over your heart… 255 00:13:28,433 --> 00:13:30,310 He listened to it for a while, 256 00:13:30,811 --> 00:13:34,606 then he looked at me to take the earphones out. 257 00:13:34,690 --> 00:13:37,484 Nevertheless, I made him listen to the whole thing, 258 00:13:37,568 --> 00:13:39,653 because I wanted him to listen. 259 00:13:40,904 --> 00:13:44,491 I should have just talked to him or gone on a trip with him. Yeah. 260 00:13:50,998 --> 00:13:52,875 It's all about money in the end. 261 00:13:52,958 --> 00:13:56,044 The church is denying it, but they had an enormous amount of money saved up. 262 00:13:56,128 --> 00:13:57,045 GOAL: 1.5 BILLION 263 00:13:57,129 --> 00:13:58,964 SPECIAL TREATMENT PLAN FOR HIGHER-PAYING MEMBERS 264 00:13:59,047 --> 00:14:02,634 With three million won, you could meet him with others who paid the same. 265 00:14:02,718 --> 00:14:05,804 If you paid more, you'd meet him with people who paid that amount too. 266 00:14:05,888 --> 00:14:07,055 It was like that. 267 00:14:07,139 --> 00:14:09,308 If you paid the most, you'd get a private meeting. 268 00:14:09,391 --> 00:14:11,602 Those people paid over 100 million won. 269 00:14:12,895 --> 00:14:15,814 How did the church treat people who paid that much money? 270 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:22,613 Well, those people were basically treated as VIPs by the church associates. 271 00:14:23,238 --> 00:14:25,449 There were people dressed in beautiful hanbok. 272 00:14:25,532 --> 00:14:26,992 They had special seats. 273 00:14:28,410 --> 00:14:31,288 That made them the envy of all Manmin Church members. 274 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,208 Those seats were not just for anybody. 275 00:14:35,292 --> 00:14:39,296 They must have given a lot of offerings, like, really a lot of money, 276 00:14:39,922 --> 00:14:41,006 to dear Pastor Lee. 277 00:14:42,132 --> 00:14:45,052 Honestly, back then, it felt pretty nice. 278 00:14:45,135 --> 00:14:46,553 Because of that system… 279 00:14:46,637 --> 00:14:48,138 FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 280 00:14:48,221 --> 00:14:51,433 …my dad paid millions of won every year to the devotion worship 281 00:14:51,516 --> 00:14:53,769 to have my sister sit at the very front. 282 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:57,731 If you gave more money, you got the right to sit at the front. 283 00:14:59,524 --> 00:15:01,568 Why were those seats so important? 284 00:15:02,069 --> 00:15:05,238 Because you were closer to Pastor Lee. 285 00:15:10,452 --> 00:15:14,414 THOU SHALT NOT KILL 286 00:15:17,834 --> 00:15:21,672 Illnesses happen as a result of a sin, as a punishment. 287 00:15:21,755 --> 00:15:23,507 You'll never be ill if you don't sin. 288 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:27,511 Have you ever seen someone fall ill when they've never sinned and are obedient? 289 00:15:27,594 --> 00:15:29,179 -Amen. -Amen. 290 00:15:29,888 --> 00:15:31,306 If you get a deadly illness, 291 00:15:31,390 --> 00:15:35,310 it means that you committed a sin so serious that death is the punishment. 292 00:15:36,603 --> 00:15:39,189 He said to me, "You won't get ill if you don't sin." 293 00:15:39,272 --> 00:15:41,274 "If you're ill, you must have sinned." 294 00:15:41,358 --> 00:15:42,693 He pushed us to believe that. 295 00:15:43,276 --> 00:15:46,905 People thought that going to the hospital reflected a lack of faith. 296 00:15:46,989 --> 00:15:48,281 He was proud of that. 297 00:15:49,866 --> 00:15:51,994 But in reality, there were illnesses 298 00:15:52,077 --> 00:15:54,621 that could have been stopped if treated in time. 299 00:15:54,705 --> 00:15:55,998 But people just prayed, 300 00:15:56,581 --> 00:15:58,291 and many of them ended up dying. 301 00:15:58,375 --> 00:16:00,877 Tuberculosis lives in the Manmin Church. 302 00:16:00,961 --> 00:16:03,422 It's actually a part of its history. 303 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,217 The members of the Performing Arts Committee 304 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,761 are all in their 20s or 30s. 305 00:16:09,845 --> 00:16:13,765 They all sing and dance together, and as I said, they're all young. 306 00:16:14,349 --> 00:16:16,977 They're all… always in the spotlight. 307 00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:36,747 Sadly, many wonderful people ended up tragically passing away. 308 00:16:42,335 --> 00:16:43,462 My wife… 309 00:16:43,545 --> 00:16:44,421 FORMER MEMBER 310 00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:47,340 She passed away in 2006. 311 00:16:52,846 --> 00:16:55,515 Hi, dear believers. How are you all doing today? 312 00:16:55,599 --> 00:16:57,768 After the 100th episode special, 313 00:16:57,851 --> 00:17:01,063 God showed his great power through our beloved Pastor Lee… 314 00:17:01,605 --> 00:17:04,274 She was a really pretty girl. She was in the Hallelujah Praising Team. 315 00:17:04,357 --> 00:17:05,609 FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CHURCH 316 00:17:05,692 --> 00:17:10,947 She was a very petite and slim girl, with a feminine and beautiful voice. 317 00:17:14,493 --> 00:17:16,411 She was brushing her teeth, 318 00:17:16,495 --> 00:17:19,289 then she ran up to me with toothpaste in her mouth. 319 00:17:20,415 --> 00:17:21,750 She was bleeding. 320 00:17:22,709 --> 00:17:25,003 I told her we should run to the hospital… 321 00:17:28,882 --> 00:17:30,300 She had tuberculosis. 322 00:17:31,927 --> 00:17:34,054 Faith was supposed to be our treatment. 323 00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:36,556 She was on the praise team. 324 00:17:38,016 --> 00:17:39,559 When we found out about it, 325 00:17:41,686 --> 00:17:43,772 she said her treatment was her faith. 326 00:17:48,985 --> 00:17:51,780 She said, "I was supposed to only love Jae-rock." 327 00:17:51,863 --> 00:17:56,368 "And now I'm sick because I decided to get married. I'm going to die from it." 328 00:17:56,451 --> 00:17:58,411 She was considered a sinner. 329 00:18:00,122 --> 00:18:01,581 If you get a deadly illness, 330 00:18:01,665 --> 00:18:05,877 it means that you committed a sin so serious that death is the punishment. 331 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:33,238 Before she passed away, she… 332 00:18:33,905 --> 00:18:35,490 was so very skinny. 333 00:18:36,575 --> 00:18:38,743 And her lungs had basically stopped working. 334 00:18:41,580 --> 00:18:42,539 And she… 335 00:18:45,125 --> 00:18:46,459 died a painful death. 336 00:19:01,391 --> 00:19:06,146 Aside from tuberculosis, there were a lot of people who suffered from cancer. 337 00:19:07,439 --> 00:19:09,774 When I found out the situation, I thought, 338 00:19:09,858 --> 00:19:14,154 "Is it really faith that prevents these people from going to the hospital?" 339 00:19:14,237 --> 00:19:15,572 "Unbelievable." 340 00:19:20,035 --> 00:19:22,996 THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY 341 00:19:23,914 --> 00:19:26,750 You know, I always talk about this in the sermons. 342 00:19:26,833 --> 00:19:30,545 People are affected by the evil spirits because of adultery. 343 00:19:31,087 --> 00:19:32,297 Adulterers 344 00:19:33,256 --> 00:19:36,509 are possessed by evil spirits, but they have no idea. 345 00:19:38,094 --> 00:19:41,806 They keep committing adultery because they have that spirit in them. 346 00:19:41,890 --> 00:19:43,308 They can't stop. 347 00:19:43,391 --> 00:19:46,811 They don't realize that they are under the influence of evil spirits. 348 00:19:46,895 --> 00:19:50,523 Lee Jae-rock was always very emphatic about adultery 349 00:19:50,607 --> 00:19:52,359 and relationships between men and women. 350 00:19:52,442 --> 00:19:54,402 And he would always say, 351 00:19:54,486 --> 00:19:58,531 "Because I don't have any adulterous spirits in me, 352 00:19:58,615 --> 00:20:00,700 I don't feel anything when I see a naked woman." 353 00:20:02,410 --> 00:20:05,622 At one point, they began separating the men from the women. 354 00:20:07,457 --> 00:20:10,669 "Don't sit next to each other. Don't be in the same space." 355 00:20:12,629 --> 00:20:14,714 Men and women couldn't talk to each other. 356 00:20:14,798 --> 00:20:16,925 So, how did they communicate? 357 00:20:17,008 --> 00:20:20,553 Well, you would talk to them through someone else. 358 00:20:21,054 --> 00:20:23,139 In my case, it was my sister. 359 00:20:23,223 --> 00:20:25,058 I would tell the message to her, 360 00:20:25,141 --> 00:20:28,478 and when the other person responded, 361 00:20:29,062 --> 00:20:32,816 my sister would pass that message on to me, and the chain continued. 362 00:20:36,778 --> 00:20:40,323 There was an incident with the letters of repentance in 2010. 363 00:20:40,407 --> 00:20:42,701 "The members have too many sins." 364 00:20:42,784 --> 00:20:44,869 "They lead sinful lives." 365 00:20:46,121 --> 00:20:49,624 I did not think that such sinners would be part of our church. 366 00:20:49,708 --> 00:20:52,752 These are people who gave in to their sexual desires. 367 00:20:52,836 --> 00:20:56,131 And some of them also acted in a very indecent 368 00:20:56,214 --> 00:20:57,966 and totally improper manner. 369 00:20:58,925 --> 00:21:02,095 They said, "If you write a letter to Jae-rock about your sins, 370 00:21:02,178 --> 00:21:03,596 they will be forgiven." 371 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,765 I have cried so desperately… 372 00:21:14,441 --> 00:21:18,028 I cried so that not a single soul would go to Hell, I… 373 00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:23,533 I didn't know it'd be this bad. 374 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:32,167 I didn't know that this pain would make my life so… so unbearable. 375 00:21:33,251 --> 00:21:37,047 Please show compassion for us, and forgive us. 376 00:21:38,089 --> 00:21:39,758 Your son begs you. 377 00:21:46,097 --> 00:21:47,349 I'm begging you. 378 00:21:50,977 --> 00:21:52,687 We had to confess all our secrets. 379 00:21:52,771 --> 00:21:54,022 LETTER BOX OF REPENTANCE 380 00:21:54,898 --> 00:21:58,234 I had to remember holding hands with somebody when I was seven 381 00:21:58,735 --> 00:22:01,154 and what I did with a man when I was 20. 382 00:22:02,238 --> 00:22:03,782 Did I do anything else? 383 00:22:04,407 --> 00:22:07,410 I had to remember everything and confess it. 384 00:22:07,994 --> 00:22:09,371 It was really hard. 385 00:22:10,497 --> 00:22:12,874 Once everyone wrote their letters of repentance, 386 00:22:12,957 --> 00:22:15,335 it became mandatory for all church members. 387 00:22:15,418 --> 00:22:16,669 If you didn't do it, 388 00:22:16,753 --> 00:22:19,923 there was no way you could be sure if you would be saved or not. 389 00:22:20,006 --> 00:22:22,258 It was something that was very upsetting. 390 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,262 You keep committing those deadly sins. 391 00:22:26,763 --> 00:22:28,640 Don't you feel bad for your pastor? 392 00:22:29,140 --> 00:22:31,059 Is it really that hard to believe? 393 00:22:31,893 --> 00:22:33,436 If you commit a sin, 394 00:22:34,312 --> 00:22:36,523 you'll die just like it says in the Bible, 395 00:22:36,606 --> 00:22:39,192 and there'll be no salvation, I promise you. 396 00:22:40,193 --> 00:22:41,820 This topic is kind of… 397 00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:44,447 I feel bad talking about it. 398 00:22:45,031 --> 00:22:46,825 This might really hurt someone. 399 00:22:46,908 --> 00:22:49,452 Their family is still having a really hard time. 400 00:22:51,329 --> 00:22:52,872 He was a little bit… 401 00:22:52,956 --> 00:22:55,291 LEE CHAN-HEE FORMER MEMBER OF MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 402 00:22:56,376 --> 00:22:57,710 …free-spirited. 403 00:22:58,294 --> 00:22:59,921 He dated a lot of people. 404 00:23:00,505 --> 00:23:03,842 He was a huge extrovert, and a very friendly kind of person. 405 00:23:07,011 --> 00:23:10,598 PLEASE NOTE THIS FOOTAGE IS NOT RELATED TO THE ACTUAL VICTIM 406 00:23:16,521 --> 00:23:20,442 He ran into several problems with various women. 407 00:23:20,525 --> 00:23:21,734 Jae-rock found out about it. 408 00:23:22,610 --> 00:23:25,113 That ended up being, well… 409 00:23:26,030 --> 00:23:28,032 a great disadvantage for him, honestly. 410 00:23:28,867 --> 00:23:31,828 He told him once, "You can't be saved." 411 00:23:32,704 --> 00:23:34,539 So he… cut them off. 412 00:23:37,041 --> 00:23:39,002 He literally cut off his genitals. 413 00:23:39,878 --> 00:23:42,297 You could see a physical difference. 414 00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:44,257 He became feminine. 415 00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:46,551 He was a bodyguard and he loved to exercise. 416 00:23:47,802 --> 00:23:48,970 He's skinny now. 417 00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:51,931 He has no muscles, and no facial hair. 418 00:23:54,184 --> 00:23:56,436 Such things shouldn't have happened to anyone. 419 00:23:57,020 --> 00:23:59,063 They were just extremely illogical. 420 00:23:59,981 --> 00:24:02,442 And they didn't just happen to one or two people. 421 00:24:04,444 --> 00:24:07,780 He had such blind faith, he thought it was right. 422 00:24:07,864 --> 00:24:10,200 "Where can I have it done? I have to do it!" 423 00:24:11,409 --> 00:24:12,952 I considered it. 424 00:24:16,247 --> 00:24:18,082 And when I looked into it, he even told me 425 00:24:19,083 --> 00:24:21,169 where it was done and the cost. 426 00:24:22,003 --> 00:24:24,672 He said it took five days to recover from the surgery. 427 00:24:25,173 --> 00:24:26,382 But it was illegal. 428 00:24:31,846 --> 00:24:34,182 Jae-rock was very sensitive 429 00:24:35,225 --> 00:24:38,686 about things like dating somebody from the Performing Arts Committee. 430 00:24:42,273 --> 00:24:45,235 Like I said, there were pretty girls from the church. 431 00:24:45,318 --> 00:24:48,738 I think he thought that those girls belonged to him. 432 00:24:48,821 --> 00:24:51,366 But if they dated or slept with another man, 433 00:24:51,449 --> 00:24:54,160 he considered them tainted and filthy. 434 00:24:54,661 --> 00:24:56,412 He had to have them for himself. 435 00:24:56,496 --> 00:24:59,207 And so no other man could be with them. 436 00:24:59,290 --> 00:25:01,000 "They're all objects, and they're mine." 437 00:25:11,469 --> 00:25:13,471 Pastor Lee Jae-rock of Manmin Church 438 00:25:13,555 --> 00:25:15,974 was accused of sexually assaulting nine female followers… 439 00:25:16,057 --> 00:25:17,433 Police believe the assaults… 440 00:25:17,517 --> 00:25:19,269 SEXUAL ASSAULTS AGAINST FOLLOWERS 441 00:25:19,352 --> 00:25:20,937 …happened frequently, perhaps over years. 442 00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:22,188 LEE ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ASSAULTS 443 00:25:23,231 --> 00:25:24,607 APRIL 26, 2018 FIRST POLICE SUMMONS 444 00:25:24,691 --> 00:25:27,694 You denied all the charges. So there was no sexual intercourse? 445 00:25:27,777 --> 00:25:30,154 This is dangerous. Please, he's walking here… 446 00:25:30,238 --> 00:25:32,073 -You deny any sex? -He's hurt… 447 00:25:32,156 --> 00:25:34,117 Go. Go. Could you just go? 448 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,328 Are you denying any intercourse? Or just the sexual assault? 449 00:25:37,412 --> 00:25:39,205 I deny everything. 450 00:25:39,289 --> 00:25:41,374 Why did you call female members at night? 451 00:25:41,457 --> 00:25:42,458 Just go. 452 00:25:42,542 --> 00:25:45,044 They say they hated it when you asked them for sexual intercourse. 453 00:25:45,128 --> 00:25:46,713 -Sir-- -I never did that. 454 00:25:46,796 --> 00:25:48,381 You never did anything like that? 455 00:25:48,464 --> 00:25:50,258 -Excuse us, Choi. -Don't you-- 456 00:25:50,341 --> 00:25:52,302 Don't you want to apologize to your victims? 457 00:25:52,385 --> 00:25:54,971 Okay. Watch your leg, sir. 458 00:25:58,933 --> 00:26:00,101 Be careful, sir. 459 00:26:02,645 --> 00:26:05,273 I mean… it was unbelievable. 460 00:26:05,356 --> 00:26:06,608 Completely unbelievable. 461 00:26:06,691 --> 00:26:09,652 I thought, "How can something this absurd happen?" 462 00:26:09,736 --> 00:26:14,073 Honestly… who could have imagined he was a sex offender? 463 00:26:14,657 --> 00:26:16,200 I thought they were rumors. 464 00:26:17,118 --> 00:26:19,037 Manmin Church and its members 465 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,373 do not acknowledge the claims of Pastor Lee's sexual assaults. 466 00:26:22,874 --> 00:26:26,502 We believe that such claims will be revealed to be false. 467 00:26:27,253 --> 00:26:30,965 First, stop all false claims! 468 00:26:31,049 --> 00:26:32,717 Stop them! Stop them! 469 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,302 BE STRONG, PASTOR! STOP THE FALSE CLAIMS 470 00:26:34,385 --> 00:26:38,556 The church will prove Pastor Lee's innocence. 471 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,141 We'll prove it! We'll prove it! 472 00:26:40,224 --> 00:26:41,559 WE LOVE YOU, PASTOR LEE! 473 00:26:41,643 --> 00:26:44,020 When we started gathering material for the piece… 474 00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:46,064 LEE MOON-HYEON, REPORTER SOCIETY DEPARTMENT OF MBC 475 00:26:46,147 --> 00:26:49,317 …we thought he was the leader of a cult or something like that. 476 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,444 But what we never imagined was that 477 00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:54,781 we were actually dealing with a dangerous criminal. 478 00:26:56,032 --> 00:26:58,451 Another sexual assault victim filed a lawsuit 479 00:26:58,534 --> 00:27:01,245 against Pastor Lee Jae-rock of Manmin Central Church, 480 00:27:01,329 --> 00:27:04,707 who's being investigated for sexually assaulting his followers. 481 00:27:04,791 --> 00:27:05,958 Here's the story. 482 00:27:06,959 --> 00:27:11,047 She says she was sexually assaulted by Pastor Lee of Manmin Church… 483 00:27:12,340 --> 00:27:16,386 The victim was like a leader among younger members. 484 00:27:16,469 --> 00:27:19,263 She brought in some evidence… 485 00:27:19,347 --> 00:27:20,848 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 486 00:27:20,932 --> 00:27:23,559 along with some pictures she took with Jae-rock. 487 00:27:24,477 --> 00:27:27,146 All these sources helped a lot during the investigation. 488 00:27:31,192 --> 00:27:34,737 There, I learned things like virtue, honesty, and love. 489 00:27:35,405 --> 00:27:38,574 I loved learning that. It was something good. 490 00:27:40,785 --> 00:27:43,454 She was very specific about the last time 491 00:27:43,538 --> 00:27:46,791 she had been sexually assaulted by him, and where it took place. 492 00:27:47,458 --> 00:27:51,671 It was information that wouldn't be shared with just anyone in the church, 493 00:27:51,754 --> 00:27:54,549 so that's how I knew I could trust her story. 494 00:27:58,302 --> 00:28:04,308 She said she first received a personal call from Jae-rock in 2011. 495 00:28:11,941 --> 00:28:13,067 How are you? 496 00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:19,198 She said she was ecstatic. She was born religious. 497 00:28:20,992 --> 00:28:24,370 Then, all of a sudden, the man she was convinced was God, 498 00:28:24,454 --> 00:28:27,415 this noble and holy man, was calling her. 499 00:28:27,498 --> 00:28:29,584 TESTIMONY OF A FEMALE VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT 500 00:28:29,667 --> 00:28:33,671 I thought, "Maybe he wants to discuss my Measure of Faith in private." 501 00:28:33,755 --> 00:28:37,049 "Or maybe he'll assign me a duty and a title." 502 00:28:47,351 --> 00:28:50,146 He said, "Hey, can you come to the apartment?" 503 00:28:50,938 --> 00:28:54,734 "No one knows about this place, so please don't tell anybody." 504 00:28:59,614 --> 00:29:02,700 So I left my house and took a cab there. 505 00:29:03,785 --> 00:29:07,747 He was pretty careful. He said, "Don't use a card. Use cash." 506 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,303 They wanted to prove their conviction, and dipped into their savings, 507 00:29:22,386 --> 00:29:25,473 withdrew the money in cash, and put it in an envelope. 508 00:29:26,015 --> 00:29:29,894 It was simple. Then they changed into their clean, white clothes. 509 00:29:32,396 --> 00:29:35,149 I felt so nervous when I pressed the doorbell. 510 00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:38,402 I was praying on my way there. 511 00:29:39,612 --> 00:29:43,616 Then even the way he poked his head out was so shocking to me. 512 00:29:46,702 --> 00:29:50,206 As I went in, I noticed there was a large mattress right in the living room. 513 00:30:25,533 --> 00:30:28,119 All of the victims' stories have great similarities. 514 00:30:28,703 --> 00:30:30,538 They were all invited to his house. 515 00:30:37,795 --> 00:30:39,714 And he told them, "I am God." 516 00:30:39,797 --> 00:30:42,049 "So, there's nothing wrong with what happens here." 517 00:30:42,133 --> 00:30:46,929 He said, "This is the Garden of Eden. Therefore, you must be naked." 518 00:30:47,013 --> 00:30:49,432 Those are the kind of things he told the victims. 519 00:30:50,016 --> 00:30:51,809 Then, the saddest thing, 520 00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:55,730 the victims didn't really know what was happening to them. 521 00:30:56,647 --> 00:30:58,149 TESTIMONY OF A VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT 522 00:30:58,232 --> 00:30:59,734 I couldn't think straight. 523 00:31:00,985 --> 00:31:01,944 "What's going on?" 524 00:31:02,820 --> 00:31:05,239 "Is it okay for him to do this to me?" 525 00:31:05,323 --> 00:31:07,825 "What is this? What's going on?" 526 00:31:11,579 --> 00:31:15,625 "I see, this must be his Grace protecting me from the other men out there." 527 00:31:18,586 --> 00:31:21,339 I prayed for about a month, and I guess at that point, 528 00:31:21,422 --> 00:31:24,884 I just accepted the thought that it must have been God's grace. 529 00:31:47,865 --> 00:31:50,159 He wasn't God. He was the Devil. 530 00:31:52,161 --> 00:31:54,580 He used to say, "You are in the presence of God." 531 00:31:55,331 --> 00:31:59,502 And also, "Just by touching my body, you'll be healed." 532 00:31:59,585 --> 00:32:00,795 "You'll go to Heaven." 533 00:32:00,878 --> 00:32:02,797 He was the Devil in sheep's clothing. 534 00:32:09,470 --> 00:32:10,471 TESTIMONY OF A VICTIM 535 00:32:10,554 --> 00:32:12,139 He unclasped my bra. 536 00:32:12,223 --> 00:32:15,434 I was surprised because he was so good at it. 537 00:32:16,185 --> 00:32:18,104 "Who owns your pussy, Jeong-hye?" 538 00:32:18,646 --> 00:32:21,899 He looked… very closely at that part. 539 00:32:23,401 --> 00:32:24,777 He just stared at it. 540 00:32:28,239 --> 00:32:31,450 He brought my face closer to his genital area. 541 00:32:32,076 --> 00:32:34,578 Then he said, "That's not right." 542 00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:36,497 "Your teeth are hurting me." 543 00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:43,754 While we were having sex, he kept asking me if it felt good. 544 00:32:43,838 --> 00:32:45,548 And he told me to moan. 545 00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:47,174 "Good? Good?" 546 00:32:48,843 --> 00:32:50,511 All of us had to pay attention 547 00:32:50,594 --> 00:32:53,848 and keep watching while he had sex with my friends. 548 00:33:02,648 --> 00:33:06,402 He said we were too clumsy and made us watch porn and practice. 549 00:33:06,485 --> 00:33:11,282 So when his assistant played porn for us, I would practice my moaning. 550 00:33:11,365 --> 00:33:15,494 PLEASE NOTE THIS FOOTAGE IS NOT RELATED TO THE ACTUAL VICTIMS 551 00:33:17,872 --> 00:33:19,999 Those girls were really pretty. 552 00:33:20,082 --> 00:33:23,544 It was clear that he preferred girls who were born religious like me, 553 00:33:23,627 --> 00:33:25,671 because they were more naive, 554 00:33:25,755 --> 00:33:27,715 and they'd never been touched by a man. 555 00:33:30,134 --> 00:33:31,802 After he sexually assaulted us, 556 00:33:32,887 --> 00:33:35,264 he gave each one of us around three million won. 557 00:33:36,724 --> 00:33:40,770 People suddenly started getting nice cars and houses 558 00:33:40,853 --> 00:33:44,982 That was fairly common. "Where did they get the money to buy those things?" 559 00:33:46,567 --> 00:33:49,987 He gave me an envelope with a million won. It was all in cash. 560 00:33:50,071 --> 00:33:51,906 TESTIMONY OF A FEMALE VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT 561 00:33:53,115 --> 00:33:55,826 I used to get two to three million won. 562 00:33:57,453 --> 00:34:02,041 He wrote "4,500" in green ink on a white envelope he gave me. 563 00:34:04,126 --> 00:34:06,295 He gave me six million won. 564 00:34:06,378 --> 00:34:10,591 It all came from the offerings. That's where he got the money from. 565 00:34:10,674 --> 00:34:12,718 I think he gave me two million won. 566 00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:14,762 Five million at most. 567 00:34:15,304 --> 00:34:16,806 I also paid offerings. 568 00:34:18,474 --> 00:34:21,560 There were many times when I would just return all that money. 569 00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:24,939 I didn't know what to do with the money. 570 00:34:25,022 --> 00:34:28,275 I didn't want to spend any of it. For me, it didn't make sense to use it. 571 00:34:28,359 --> 00:34:30,027 So I gave it back to the church. 572 00:34:30,111 --> 00:34:34,406 After that, their Measure of Faith would suddenly increase considerably. 573 00:34:36,325 --> 00:34:41,288 A lot of the Performing Arts Committee had really high rankings in the church. 574 00:34:41,872 --> 00:34:43,916 I think there were 20 to 30 people. 575 00:34:43,999 --> 00:34:45,584 So everything was connected. 576 00:34:46,085 --> 00:34:47,878 You had to elevate your spirit, 577 00:34:47,962 --> 00:34:50,840 but for you to achieve that, you had to sleep with him. 578 00:34:52,383 --> 00:34:55,761 Not only that, but he continued to assault his previous victims. 579 00:34:56,428 --> 00:35:00,182 We will not give in to the unfaithful demands, dear Pastor Lee. 580 00:35:00,266 --> 00:35:01,851 Amen! 581 00:35:01,934 --> 00:35:03,811 We're here for you! 582 00:35:03,894 --> 00:35:05,688 You can do it! 583 00:35:06,522 --> 00:35:10,234 We love you with all our hearts! 584 00:35:13,195 --> 00:35:17,074 The image of the pastor that we grew up with never really changed. 585 00:35:17,158 --> 00:35:21,579 Through all these years, he maintained a kind and loving image. 586 00:35:21,662 --> 00:35:23,747 We've only seen one side of him, 587 00:35:23,831 --> 00:35:26,584 standing by the members of the church through their ups and downs. 588 00:35:26,667 --> 00:35:28,878 We just thought those women were promiscuous. 589 00:35:28,961 --> 00:35:31,463 That they liked to fool around with men. 590 00:35:31,547 --> 00:35:34,383 FOR I AM A GOOD SHEPHERD, I WILL SACRIFICE MYSELF FOR MY SHEEP 591 00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:37,136 "They were immoral. Sinners." 592 00:35:38,012 --> 00:35:39,305 People spread rumors. 593 00:35:39,805 --> 00:35:41,932 They'd say things at private gatherings. 594 00:35:42,016 --> 00:35:43,475 They'd say they were dirty. 595 00:35:47,897 --> 00:35:51,817 Some of the adults did know what was happening to us. 596 00:35:52,318 --> 00:35:55,237 But they still wouldn't leave the church. 597 00:35:56,155 --> 00:35:59,033 That was because he said he was holy. 598 00:35:59,533 --> 00:36:05,039 They said, "A simple human can't judge this man's holy actions." 599 00:36:06,081 --> 00:36:09,043 If one single person had spoken out, 600 00:36:09,543 --> 00:36:12,588 none of this would have lasted for decades. 601 00:36:13,714 --> 00:36:16,842 I'm sure it wouldn't have lasted so many years. 602 00:36:20,221 --> 00:36:21,222 SECOND POLICE SUMMONS 603 00:36:21,305 --> 00:36:23,515 -Do you admit it? -Where are we going? 604 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:25,976 -Why did you do it? -Are you admitting it? 605 00:36:26,060 --> 00:36:27,770 You're not gonna talk? 606 00:36:27,853 --> 00:36:30,773 -Why did you call your members? -You think you're the Holy Spirit? 607 00:36:30,856 --> 00:36:33,400 We kept asking questions right up to the elevator. 608 00:36:34,193 --> 00:36:37,780 But Jae-rock didn't say anything to defend himself or anything like that. 609 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,494 And the people around him were trying to shove away the reporters that were there. 610 00:36:43,994 --> 00:36:46,372 I remember him seeming shameless. 611 00:36:46,455 --> 00:36:48,290 -Move away, please. -Excuse me! 612 00:36:48,374 --> 00:36:50,584 Why were they in your room at night? 613 00:36:50,668 --> 00:36:51,961 Tell us about April 12! 614 00:36:53,754 --> 00:36:57,341 ACCUSED OF SEXUALLY ASSAULTING CHURCH MEMBERS 615 00:36:57,424 --> 00:37:00,678 PASTOR LEE JAE-ROCK'S SECOND POLICE SUMMONS 616 00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:05,391 After that, he continued to deny the charges 617 00:37:05,474 --> 00:37:07,434 during the prosecutor's investigation. 618 00:37:07,518 --> 00:37:10,354 During the trial, he would just deny everything. 619 00:37:10,437 --> 00:37:12,731 He claimed he had never assaulted them. 620 00:37:12,815 --> 00:37:14,858 He hired very expensive lawyers 621 00:37:14,942 --> 00:37:18,320 and pleaded not guilty until the very end. 622 00:37:20,072 --> 00:37:23,367 There was a very specific incident that brought down Manmin. 623 00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:26,120 An audio of a female member began to circulate. 624 00:37:26,620 --> 00:37:29,957 She was one of the most prominent and active members of the church. 625 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,420 It's an audio of this person talking to one of her friends. 626 00:37:35,004 --> 00:37:36,839 In that recording, she's saying 627 00:37:36,922 --> 00:37:39,800 that there was nothing wrong with having sex with Jae-rock. 628 00:37:41,802 --> 00:37:43,512 RECORDING PROVIDED BY THE VICTIM IN 2018 629 00:37:43,595 --> 00:37:46,598 Do you really think it's okay he demands that from unwilling women 630 00:37:46,682 --> 00:37:48,726 just because he's the Holy Spirit? 631 00:37:48,809 --> 00:37:51,186 -You never thought that it was wrong? -No. 632 00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:53,063 So you're always completely obedient? 633 00:37:53,147 --> 00:37:54,606 Yes. 634 00:37:54,690 --> 00:37:57,109 -It's not that weird. -Why isn't it weird? 635 00:37:57,609 --> 00:38:00,779 Do you have to do everything that he says, then? Even having sex? 636 00:38:01,697 --> 00:38:05,117 Pastor Lee is God. It's okay. 637 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,619 If he says it's not a sin, then it's not a sin. 638 00:38:09,997 --> 00:38:12,875 When I listened to that, I realized that it was all true. 639 00:38:12,958 --> 00:38:16,003 I found my 20 years of faith shattered in just two hours. 640 00:38:17,588 --> 00:38:21,467 So, how did it feel to have 20 years of faith shattered? 641 00:38:32,936 --> 00:38:36,523 Uh, I guess it felt like… my mind… 642 00:38:38,359 --> 00:38:40,903 going completely blank in a second. 643 00:38:41,612 --> 00:38:45,991 It felt like my head was getting slammed with a huge hammer. 644 00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:50,412 I was so shocked that I couldn't do anything all day. Yeah. 645 00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:54,249 It was unimaginable. 646 00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:57,628 You never think that God could do something like that. 647 00:38:57,711 --> 00:38:58,879 "Huh?" 648 00:38:59,797 --> 00:39:00,923 I was stunned. 649 00:39:02,049 --> 00:39:04,385 I felt like I had suddenly been hit by a bomb. 650 00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:10,015 I mean, Jae-rock was over 50 years older than them. 651 00:39:10,099 --> 00:39:11,517 And he knew them all. 652 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,977 These were kids who went to his church 653 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:16,605 He prayed with them. 654 00:39:16,688 --> 00:39:20,359 These kids first came to the church carried by their mothers, 655 00:39:20,859 --> 00:39:23,153 and he did unspeakable things to them. 656 00:39:24,154 --> 00:39:27,157 At first, I almost went after him. 657 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:31,203 It was all completely outrageous. 658 00:39:33,163 --> 00:39:36,417 To think he'd practically raised those girls since they were kids, 659 00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:40,254 and then did that to them when they were just teenagers until their 20s… 660 00:39:40,337 --> 00:39:43,340 He was in his 70s. I don't even know what to call him. 661 00:39:43,424 --> 00:39:45,551 Pervert? Degenerate? 662 00:39:47,010 --> 00:39:49,596 I wonder what I would have done in their place. 663 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,974 If Pastor Lee had called me to his room, 664 00:39:52,057 --> 00:39:53,517 and asked me to do that. 665 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,728 To take off my clothes, saying we were like Adam and Eve. 666 00:39:56,812 --> 00:39:59,731 It may sound shocking, but I think I would have obeyed him. 667 00:40:00,482 --> 00:40:02,192 RECORDING PROVIDED BY THE VICTIM IN 2018 668 00:40:02,276 --> 00:40:04,903 I love you so much, spiritually. 669 00:40:04,987 --> 00:40:09,450 The body is a very important thing, but I love you with my spirit. 670 00:40:09,533 --> 00:40:11,452 I know that. 671 00:40:11,535 --> 00:40:15,706 If you don't like physical love, I won't even consider it. 672 00:40:16,999 --> 00:40:19,334 I won't consider it if you don't like it. 673 00:40:20,294 --> 00:40:22,254 I don't love you just because of that. 674 00:40:23,422 --> 00:40:25,174 Okay. 675 00:40:25,257 --> 00:40:26,425 All right. 676 00:40:27,801 --> 00:40:29,094 I'll see you tomorrow. 677 00:40:29,803 --> 00:40:32,389 -Okay, thank you. -Sure. 678 00:40:33,182 --> 00:40:35,434 -I love you. -Okay. Bye. 679 00:40:43,233 --> 00:40:47,654 The day their God was destroyed was May 3rd, 2018. 680 00:40:48,405 --> 00:40:49,573 That was the day. 681 00:41:01,335 --> 00:41:03,754 We're here for you! Stay strong. 682 00:41:05,923 --> 00:41:07,591 MAY 3, 2018 LEE JAE-ROCK IS ARRESTED 683 00:41:07,674 --> 00:41:09,176 Do you admit it? 684 00:41:10,928 --> 00:41:12,346 Do you deny the charges? 685 00:41:12,429 --> 00:41:15,307 At the prayer meeting, you said you don't fear the police. 686 00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:16,642 What do you mean by that? 687 00:41:17,309 --> 00:41:20,479 Pastor Lee of Manmin Central Church has been arrested, 688 00:41:20,562 --> 00:41:23,565 after being charged with multiple sexual assaults. 689 00:41:45,587 --> 00:41:48,799 The day of his arrest, it suddenly started hailing. 690 00:41:48,882 --> 00:41:50,467 Almost as if God were angry. 691 00:41:52,844 --> 00:41:55,764 Manmin Church calls that day the "Hail Incident." 692 00:41:56,932 --> 00:42:00,227 All the members were furious, saying he was being put through hardship. 693 00:42:00,310 --> 00:42:02,062 MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH 694 00:42:05,148 --> 00:42:07,317 Disclose the truth! The truth! 695 00:42:07,401 --> 00:42:08,694 We want the truth! 696 00:42:08,777 --> 00:42:10,737 WHY IS OUR PASTOR LOCKED UP FOR 15 YEARS? 697 00:42:10,821 --> 00:42:12,823 We want truth! We want truth! 698 00:42:12,906 --> 00:42:14,908 PASTOR LEE WAS FRAMED 699 00:42:18,829 --> 00:42:22,416 BRING OUT THE LIE DETECTOR 700 00:42:22,499 --> 00:42:24,501 TRANSPORT 701 00:42:25,836 --> 00:42:26,920 There he is. 702 00:42:27,754 --> 00:42:29,756 There he is, right there. You got him? 703 00:42:31,758 --> 00:42:37,055 For many people, it was their first time seeing him looking like a coward. 704 00:42:38,223 --> 00:42:41,351 When he got out of the car, he seemed wary to me. 705 00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:45,856 They say he didn't have white hair because he was God. 706 00:42:45,939 --> 00:42:48,609 He was supposed to keep his black hair even as he got older. 707 00:42:52,904 --> 00:42:54,906 But he looked like a random old man. 708 00:43:00,579 --> 00:43:07,544 DEFENDANT LEE JAE-ROCK SENTENCED TO 16 YEARS IN JAIL 709 00:43:10,631 --> 00:43:12,633 Dear Lord, keep us in your heart… 710 00:43:12,716 --> 00:43:14,718 JANUARY 18, 2018 FILMED BY CREW OF PD NOTE 711 00:43:14,801 --> 00:43:17,012 …as we wish Pastor Lee a very happy new year. 712 00:43:17,095 --> 00:43:18,930 Let's say "Happy New Year," and bow. 713 00:43:19,973 --> 00:43:22,893 Happy New Year, dear Pastor Lee! 714 00:43:25,228 --> 00:43:29,316 SOME MANMIN CENTRAL CHURCH MEMBERS ARE STILL WAITING FOR PASTOR LEE JAE-ROCK 715 00:43:29,399 --> 00:43:31,693 Our dear Pastor Lee! 716 00:43:33,111 --> 00:43:36,531 -We miss you a lot! -Come back to us soon! 717 00:43:39,618 --> 00:43:42,287 LEE KWANG-OH, CORRECTION ADVISOR AT SEOUL NAMBU DETENTION CENTER 718 00:43:42,371 --> 00:43:45,248 I am currently Director of Corrections at Seoul Nambu Detention Center. 719 00:43:45,832 --> 00:43:48,877 I have authority in the detention center. 720 00:43:53,340 --> 00:43:57,511 I visited the center in Daegu in March 2021. 721 00:44:01,348 --> 00:44:04,685 I wondered, what was the true nature of this deceptive man? 722 00:44:04,768 --> 00:44:06,186 How was his life in prison? 723 00:44:08,397 --> 00:44:10,315 So, when I saw him, I said, "Hey, Jae-rock!" 724 00:44:12,275 --> 00:44:13,568 He glanced at me. 725 00:44:14,403 --> 00:44:18,365 Just imagine how my heart was pounding when I said his name. 726 00:44:21,827 --> 00:44:24,621 "You need to live a better life! Aren't you afraid of God?" 727 00:44:25,539 --> 00:44:27,457 That's what I wanted to say, but then… 728 00:44:30,252 --> 00:44:31,586 he didn't recognize me. 729 00:44:34,631 --> 00:44:36,883 Even in prison, he was the leader of his cell. 730 00:44:36,967 --> 00:44:39,970 He always has five million won kept in custody. 731 00:44:41,096 --> 00:44:43,557 He's eating well and living well. 732 00:44:47,269 --> 00:44:48,937 ALL INTERVIEWS IN THIS DOCUMENTARY USE REAL TESTIMONIES 733 00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:51,106 TO PROTECT THE SUBJECTS' IDENTITY, SOME INTERVIEWS HAVE BEEN REENACTED